<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post8683301919744787456..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>8</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-756998235302473285</id><published>2007-04-13T00:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-13T00:21:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey Curtis,Thanks for the clarification -- sorry i...</title><summary type='text'>Hey Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for the clarification -- sorry if I was quick on the trigger there.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;best wishes,&lt;BR/&gt;Ken</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/756998235302473285'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/756998235302473285'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html?showComment=1176438060000#c756998235302473285' title=''/><author><name>Ken Rumble</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00746644074804416378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/448857226_096bce085f_b.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8683301919744787456' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8683301919744787456' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1033809189"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 13, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1467867688309629163</id><published>2007-04-12T23:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-12T23:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ken Rumble:If I didn&#39;t think the work Ron quotes o...</title><summary type='text'>Ken Rumble:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If I didn&#39;t think the work Ron quotes of yours was interesting, I wouldn&#39;t bother to comment.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Stanzas like this--&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;the city, the city, seeing all&lt;BR/&gt;about&lt;BR/&gt;the city.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;seem to my ear very much Olson&#39;s property.  I wouldn&#39;t say anyone is precluded from using someone else&#39;s form--especially in emulation.  But there&#39;s a limit to how much of that you</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/1467867688309629163'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/1467867688309629163'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html?showComment=1176435780000#c1467867688309629163' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8683301919744787456' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8683301919744787456' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2824152304240915991</id><published>2007-04-12T17:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-12T17:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Many, if not most, Lucipoets are non-native NC res...</title><summary type='text'>Many, if not most, Lucipoets are non-native NC residents.  Heck, Ken might be one of the more southern of us.  At least three of us early &quot;members&quot; played ice hockey as children, outdoors, no less.  For many of us only recent memories include kudzu, smokehouses, and tobacco fields.  Many of us moved South while the whole country went Southern with its NASCAR, anti-PC, gun proliferation, and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/2824152304240915991'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/2824152304240915991'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html?showComment=1176412500000#c2824152304240915991' title=''/><author><name>Patrick</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04539777192807636576</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://indyweek.com/binary/e50b7a7e/ae-16730.jpeg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8683301919744787456' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8683301919744787456' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-576327530"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-778627529914033381</id><published>2007-04-12T16:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-12T16:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I liked this piece alot by Ron,and the poem looks ...</title><summary type='text'>I liked this piece alot by Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;and the poem looks interesting,&lt;BR/&gt;but one thing that kind of grates&lt;BR/&gt;on me, not terribly, but i question it:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;why the urge to reify the tenuous link between signifier and signified, or conversely the&lt;BR/&gt;iron-clad connection therein,&lt;BR/&gt;the urge to investigate place? is it a sacral or pastoral gesture, a kind of bachelardian drawer sniffing in </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/778627529914033381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/778627529914033381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html?showComment=1176408360000#c778627529914033381' title=''/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://www.phaneronoemikon.org/imago/2.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8683301919744787456' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8683301919744787456' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7400415251695707440</id><published>2007-04-12T11:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-12T11:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Where&#39;s the Vonnegut tribute Ron?</title><summary type='text'>Where&#39;s the Vonnegut tribute Ron?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/7400415251695707440'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/7400415251695707440'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html?showComment=1176393180000#c7400415251695707440' title=''/><author><name>Michael</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15639031912135091927</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8683301919744787456' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8683301919744787456' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-179247073"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6674605005912482987</id><published>2007-04-12T11:00:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-12T11:00:00.001-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The previous comment is irritating and amusing, bo...</title><summary type='text'>The previous comment is irritating and amusing, both. Amusing because it&#39;s reductive to say one&#39;s second book *must* be better than one&#39;s first, or must be more &quot;his own.&quot; That&#39;s not really true--the only person truly authorized to set a writer&#39;s goals is the writer himself. (It&#39;s also a cliche.) To say the book is copying Olson, or that it&#39;s not necessarily &quot;new,&quot; is unfair--such things are </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/6674605005912482987'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/6674605005912482987'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html?showComment=1176390000001#c6674605005912482987' title=''/><author><name>Max</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18171731007326838375</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8683301919744787456' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8683301919744787456' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1533672398"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7945175708645128755</id><published>2007-04-12T11:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-12T11:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey Ron,Thanks a lot -- I really appreciate your r...</title><summary type='text'>Hey Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks a lot -- I really appreciate your read here; it&#39;s very flattering.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And actually, yes, I consider Key Bridge a single poem.  I used to called it &quot;a poem in sections.&quot;  So yeah, it&#39;s /a/ poem.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Also, you&#39;ve hit my influences spot on of course, but I&#39;d like to add one more: C. S. Giscombe introduced me to Olson and Cecil&#39;s own very Olsonian work was also an </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/7945175708645128755'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/7945175708645128755'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html?showComment=1176390000000#c7945175708645128755' title=''/><author><name>Ken Rumble</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00746644074804416378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/448857226_096bce085f_b.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8683301919744787456' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8683301919744787456' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1033809189"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-650084716017217550</id><published>2007-04-12T07:49:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-12T07:49:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Rumble seems to have picked up on Olson--and other...</title><summary type='text'>Rumble seems to have picked up on Olson--and other Black Mountain shorthand--rather facilely.  I would hate to hear what William Logan would say about the &quot;18.march.2001&quot; poem.  Sacrilege on Hart.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My generation was doing this stuff 40 years ago.  My &quot;limping smith&quot; variations (a la Stein--though I hardly understood that then) done for Grenier&#39;s class in 1968, for instance.  I guess the</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/650084716017217550'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8683301919744787456/comments/default/650084716017217550'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html?showComment=1176378540000#c650084716017217550' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8683301919744787456' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8683301919744787456' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 12, 2007"/></entry></feed>