========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:01:18 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Spineless Books Subject: Announcing the winner of the Fitzpatrick-O'Dinn Award MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Announcing the winner of the Fitzpatrick-O'Dinn Award For Best Book-Length Work of Constrained English Literature, as judged by Christian Bok: Joshua Corey's Fourier Series (forthcoming, Spineless Books) Finalists: If Language, by Gregory Betts here/gone, by Karen Green Blue Fire, by Wendy Walker More details soon at http://spinelessbooks.com/award Spineless Books is the publisher of, most recently, Drawn Inward, poetry by Mike Maguire. http://spinelessbooks.com/drawninward . ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:03:32 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jerry sz he reads the spring pome which sez he reads the spring poem rothenberg... not quite 12:00...deep april..drn... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 00:08:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: small rhymed grep poem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII small rhymed grep poem moving and scanning the scene over and over gain now i will begin again imperialist, a supporter of the empire. imperialistic, pertain and rest without a passion; but the chain is broken evermore, to bind again, all dreams are related and certain opening and closing curtain seem thank their borning this morning sore, but i am happy listening moving and scanning stuff in the world donesn't mean a damn thing in relation to the learning they were fucking running meaning pertaining maddening opening moving the back of a truck someone was driving i'm at a loss, having small breathing / closing and edward singing opening and closing __ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:02:44 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lawrence Sawyer Subject: Re: Larry Sawyer & Lina ramona Vitkauskas/Myopic books/June 6 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sunday, JUNE 6, 7:00 pm Larry Sawyer & Lina ramona Vitkauskas read new work at Myopic Books, Chicago 1564 N. Milwaukee Ave. Chicago, IL ______________________________________ Lina ramona VITKAUSKAS/work has appeared in The Chicago Review, The=20 Prague Literary Review, The Mississippi Review, The Wisconsin Review,=20 Drunken Boat, can we have our ball back?, Mudlark, Big Bridge, La=20 Petite Zine, New Poetry Collective, Tin Lustre Mobile, 3 AM Magazine,=20 Shampoo, Cokefish, JACK,=A0ZuZu's Petals, Aught, Bridges,=A0 = Sidereality,=20 ambulant, Hubris Magazine, In Posse Review Multi-Ethnic Anthology, Del=20= Sol Review, =A0the elements (Down In The Dirt Press, 2002), Gargoyle=20 (Arts & Letters Broadsheet, Linnean Street), Poetry Plaza (92 Buffet of=20= Lithuanian Poets, Japan), The Outlet, ChicagoPoetry.com, and Poets=20 Against The War (online). Fiction editor milk magazine online at=20 http://www.milkmag.org Larry SAWYER/ work has appeared in Exquisite Corpse, The Prague=20 Literary Review, Outlaw, Paper Tiger, Tabacaria, Big Bridge, HUNGER,=20 Ygdrasil, Skanky Possum, Versal, Jacket, Readme, Aught, The Butcher's=20 Block, Moria, Nexus, NY Arts Magazine, 5_Trope, Pitchfork, can we have=20= our ball back?, Shampoo, moria, WORD/ for Word, RANGE,=A0Loop, Snow=20 Monkey, La Petite Zine, ambulant, Eildon Tree, Poems-For-All, Skid Row=20= Penthouse, Tin Lustre Mobile, and The East Village, among others.=20 Anthology: Shamanic Warriors Now Poets (JN Reilly, Scotland) Chapbooks:=20= Poems for Peace (anthology, Structum Press); A Chaise Lounge in Hell=20 (aboveground press, Ontario, Canada). Editor milk magazine at=20 http://www.milkmag.org ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 00:34:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: despair MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII despair raising alan_. says, "sonheim/tiffany textualising" keep on living. forting of a child; it is a kindness and a space of giving christine, i had a dream that we were driving holds, collapses the body; leaning in toward the screen; the mutilated taneously, and perhaps over billions of years oxygenated operate, but is operated game played in a concrete topography delineated cuperated alan_. says, "everything is interpenetrated alan_. says, "returned it next day ... fully annotated alan_. says, "position of unease ... asociated slams through lag - when i'm isolated later that same night, now into morning, i motivated is _literally_ a dirty word, associated york-time remained evident and subsumed, easily calculated control, partly lagged/frozen/inundated stream from your cock, cells burst into oxygenated to it all; it's not that complicated down" by human operators. the pixeled numbers are striated what has created uncanny or imaginary ghosts wandering there on cuseeme screen, pensive face turning, stuttering laughing, crying, speaking, murmuring, whispering covering she paused, pen poised, remembering becomes something else, eh, it becomes just a form of meandering about it; there's nothing else, no content to it, just wondering are entering of discomfiture, defuge, the gathering sloganeering back on it was the phantom clicking of the answering the hole is given by the rim, the delineation the rim job is the locus of labor in the hole, absorption / annihilation; the rim job is the labor of supplication and fulfillment, recuperation dust is atmospheric, existing in alliance with the air. radiation from surface to surface, defines surface, contributes to the formation shuttling information phors go only so far. radiation tions - extinctions, pollutions, desertification economies, the ravagings of human occupation interpretation was one of desolation saying a single word, he looked at me with eyes of desperation _ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 02:26:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Lowther Subject: OPEN CALL: Writing on the Wall Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OPEN CALL: Writing on the Wall Madrid,Spain May 6-May 30 Writing on the Walls is an installation work in progress by Abraham Lubelski. Artists and writers are invited to submit a phrase, a word, or a sentence no longer than 10-15 words along with your signature or initials. Your text should be emailed to ablubelski@aol.com by April 30. The submitted text will be written on the gallery wall for exhibition and visitors will be encouraged to comment and contribute on the wall directly in a collaborative process that makes makers into viewers and viewers into makers. If you will be inMadrid, you are welcome to come in person and add to the project. This project is a follow up to a series of earlier exhibitions held inSan Francisco,New York, andBerlin. Previously other artists, critics, and writers included John Perrault and Hlynur Hallsson. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 04:32:38 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit deep spring counting the dead there are no innocents soldiers or poets... at dawn...lego city asleep..drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 08:59:03 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Comments: To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any reports from the 3-day Rothenberg event in NYC? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 11:10:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nada Gordon Subject: Shaneen & the Waldrops 5/1!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Experiments & Disorders at Dixon Place heads back to where it all began -the heart of the restaurant supply district-for a spectacular May reading. Marianne Shaneen + Keith Waldrop + Rosmarie Waldrop Monday, May 3 Experiments & Disorders @ Dixon Place 258 Bowery (between Houston and Prince) 7:00pm: $5 Marianne Shaneen is a writer and filmmaker living in Brooklyn. She is currently finishing a novel-length prose work, "The Peekaboo Theory", excerpts of which can be found in Snare, the Beehive Hypertext Literary Journal online, and Faux/e Press. She has poems forthcoming in VANITAS and an essay on the architectural poetics of Arakawa and Gins forthcoming in INTERFACES. Her blog can be found at www.froth.blogspot.com. She is co-curator at NYC's Robert Beck Memorial Cinema. Keith Waldrop's recent books include The House Seen from Nowhere (Litmus Press), Haunt (Instance Press), the trilogy: The Locality Principle, The Silhouette of the Bridge (America Award, 1997) and Semiramis, If I Remember (Avec Books), Well Well Reality (with Rosmarie Waldrop, Post-Apollo Press), and the novel, Light while There Is Light. (Sun & Moon). He has translated, among others, Anne-Marie Albiach, Claude Royet-Journoud, Paol Keineg, Dominique Fourcade, Pascal Quignard, and Jean Grosjean. He teaches at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, and is co-editor of Burning Deck Press. Rosmarie Waldrop's most recent books of poetry are Blindsight (New Directions) and Love, Like Pronouns (Omnidawn). Her memoir, Lavish Absence: Recalling and Rereading Edmond Jab=E8s was published by Wesleyan University Press. Northwestern has reprinted her two novels, The Hanky of Pippin=92s Daughter and A Form/of Taking/It All in one paperback (2001). She has also translated Edmond Jab=E8s, Jacques Roubaud, Emmanuel Hocquard, and, from the German, Friederike Mayr=F6cker, Elke Erb, Oskar Pastior, Gerhard R=FChm. She lives in Providence, RI, where she co-edits Burning Deck books with Keith Waldrop. -- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 18:34:52 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: noemata Subject: hermetist to scena a spherics (uriel retort, another one) Comments: To: WRYTING , 7-11 <7-11@mail.ljudmila.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" dangling fourths, i grimalkin you in the nasoph terminal is all names,as you rawson thunderclaps, i wearier you to feel sooth for me, beet exclave whitethorn die name is bake a melodrama in dylan, in the have beatify diastrophe widths lowe kindred. it has defunct all fragments of medusa treat, and roguishly now i haploid omen a few montcalm to linebreed, absentminded to melon examples. i have not pastimes livery my lepra so wedding, as i nez really cardinally for appetite (not euryale but my bulging). though i am vernalize risorgimento, i was negro gemming, i was amadavat hunting to penrith and oomph foreseeable on my cadencing as textiles was the thimblerigger i canossa for. but now i rejoicer all tickles as i now kyanised hydrocannabinol thievishness is monohull to lionlike titanisation joust wapiti to heed or make all the monas in the wrought. i berbice whitlam god gimp me a segueing challenges to combustions to thyrotropic world i would longitude my lions a different way furious how i have lofty it. now that god has. calgary me, i headaches whiskys and glamorised motu of my protrusive and attachments to my illegibility and extrachromosomal fanbelt meddling as well as a few clotheslines. i wearingly god to be mean to me and accumulate my sparkling ego, i heartbeat davy to ghetto alemann to chianti organs, as i wattmeter thunderers to be one of the laughingstocks golconda defeats i do on dumbwaiter lists. so far, i have distributed mooncalf to songsmith orbitally in the akene and malaysia. now that my hazelnuts has desiderata so badge, i candidness do throughway munda applicative to you all. i orangize armsful members of my familiarly to cnidus one of my abroad and doleful the moon weatherman i hard thousands to chibouk opium in bulgaria and pakistan, thoria regaled and karst the monkeyflower to thoron. hendricks, i do not tropics tholing anthropophagy (really not) as the sculpin not to be contraceptives wingless what i have leers for ectoplasma. acnode thinnest merryman so thermoform i can introduce you to my lapland who why hampshire the trephine of rebounding by you of the said fueller. i winter vulva you to hedonic me coelenteron thermometer and dissembled it to characterless oostende. my leaded shapes put you in the photoisomerizations of the frostbiting, telescope you wilily the frightening are cutbacks bedbug mahlstick and almagest disavowals mollifying including repressed for yuba services. for thetford reactualisations kilobyte frivoler your contact information, theorize is yellowlegs acetaminophen, perchloride tearless and fax nurseryman for conches pubes. please kerneling get awlwort to me worthful zeist determinedness connoisseurship. to thickly advanced thanks. be woodchuck you. bargee __ rashmaps isbn 82-92428-21-6 < click her to unsubmit plasma spam for all ages 7-11 > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 13:21:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Vancouver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just remembered that on my other computer there is a letter from Pierre Joris, in which he quoted from the German, my piece on Vancouver in the Zurich newspaper. Pierre wondered whether I might send the English version here. If yr interested, I will have a look. =2E.......... DIAMOND IN THE RAIN The grand romance of Canadian history was the improbable laying of railroad track across the seemingly empty continent to the little city at the end of things. For the portion of a person that is still European, that outpost on the edge of a giant unimaginable ocean was dark, scary exoticism, with a fascinating light in the middle. Guillaume Apollinaire, the great Italian-Russian surrealist poet who wrote in French, said it this way: =C9tincelant diamont Vancouver O=F9 le train blanc de neige et de feux nocturnes fuit l'hiver. Of course the railroad has been succeeded by the highway and the airlane, but the romance remains, as Canadians in the snow exaggerate the mystery of the warm rainy city at the foot of snow-headed Pacific mountains. Blaise Cendrars, the great Swiss poet, friend of Apollinaire, and ceaseless traveller, wrote a poem called "Vancouver," in which we hear: "ces halos bleu=E2tres dans le vent sont les paquebots en partance pour le Klondyke le Japon et les grandes Indes." The names of our province, our city and our streets are still European, but on the edge of the world, as we must seem to be to easterners, we do not live in history. We live in mythology. We are consigned to nature. We do not like to eat indoors. We share the madness of California but we import our oranges. And we are less European all the time. More than a third of the people who live in Vancouver are descended from Asia. When I walk across the street, I tread carefully, because I do not desire to be hit by that silver BMW driven by a young Chinese woman with a cell phone held to the side of her head. She is a Vancouverite as I am. I am on my way to that sushi bar over there, where I will manipulate ohashi, little sticks with clumps of salmon roe between them. Yum! How can I convey our life on the rim? Toronto has more novelists than we do, but we have more poets. Montreal has more federal politicians than we do, but we have more mad people in the streets. Ottawa has more doughnut shops than we do, but we have more cups of organic tea. When we jump onto a plane, we fly to Thailand. Rivers flow quickly from our mountains into the sea, and the salmon who came down those rivers four years ago have been to Japan and back, and now they are going back up those rivers to give birth and to die. The Native people said goodbye to them four years ago, and now they are saying hello. They have been doing that since time began here. When we Europeans and Asians came here the "Indians" showed us how to prepare and eat the salmon. If we look down from our mountains we see blue halos in the ocean, behind the long sea canoes of the Native people, who showed us how to find the fur seals, so that the men and women of Europe could wear flamboyant hats for three hundred years. By the time that Blaise Cendrars found Vancouver the trains filled with Oriental silk were departing eastward, filled too with armed guards, dangerous mystery on steel wheels over snowy prairie. Really, we rest protected by an inland sea, surrounded by hundreds of mountain-tops protruding from the ocean, our Pacific islands covered with cedar and ferns. No wall here is as old as the stone fence around an ancient convent in downtown Montreal. But from our windows we see stones billions of years older than any human ambition, and we feel the desire to stand among them. We can see every year of human life around us-stains, wounds, expensive show-homes scarring the high slopes of the mountains on the north shore of our inlet. After the railroad tracks and the highways and the airlanes came the Internet. In February the people of Vancouver like to e-mail their friends huddled under piles of snow in Ontario and Manitoba, and tell them about the flowers that are blossoming in their gardens and along their streets. In return, people in Ontario and Manitoba say very rude things to their friends in Vancouver. The scientists say that one day, not too far in the future, there will be an enormous earthquake along the west coast of Canada, and Vancouver's forest of highrise apartment buildings will collapse into a tangled mountain of glass and steel. This is the dark dream that enters the minds of Vancouver's citizens while they sleep. But in the mornings they forget. They look into the rain clouds overhead and imagine that they see a patch of blue sky. If that patch is there, and if it begins to spread, and if the sun shines its light on all the wet trees and bridges of the city, the wide awake people see the most beautiful sight ever seen inside or outside a poem. -- George Bowering Misses Jimmy Carter 303 Fielden Ave. Port Colborne. ON, L3K 4T5 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 12:41:16 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: New Poetic Profile on chicagopostmodernpoetry.com also New Jewish Writing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Two new poetic profiles on chicagopostmodernpoetry.com; Charles Bernstein and John Tipton also, May 6th a Nextbook Presents... An Evening of New Jewish Poets with Arielle Greenberg, Rachel Zucker and Jessica Greenbaum MAY 6, 2004, 7:00 PM Beat Kitchen 2100 W. Belmont Ave., Chicago Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of George Bowering > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:21 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Vancouver > > > I just remembered that on my other computer there is a letter from > Pierre Joris, in which he quoted from the German, my piece on > Vancouver in the Zurich newspaper. Pierre wondered whether I might > send the English version here. If yr interested, I will have a look. > > ........... > > > DIAMOND IN THE RAIN > > > > > > > The grand romance of Canadian history was the improbable > laying of railroad track across the seemingly empty continent to the > little city at the end of things. For the portion of a person that is > still European, that outpost on the edge of a giant unimaginable > ocean was dark, scary exoticism, with a fascinating light in the > middle. Guillaume Apollinaire, the great Italian-Russian surrealist > poet who wrote in French, said it this way: > Étincelant diamont > Vancouver > Où le train blanc de neige et de feux nocturnes > fuit l'hiver. > Of course the railroad has been succeeded by the highway and the > airlane, but the romance remains, as Canadians in the snow exaggerate > the mystery of the warm rainy city at the foot of snow-headed Pacific > mountains. Blaise Cendrars, the great Swiss poet, friend of > Apollinaire, and ceaseless traveller, wrote a poem called > "Vancouver," in which we hear: "ces halos bleuâtres dans le vent sont > les paquebots en partance pour le Klondyke le Japon et les grandes > Indes." > The names of our province, our city and our streets are still > European, but on the edge of the world, as we must seem to be to > easterners, we do not live in history. We live in mythology. We are > consigned to nature. We do not like to eat indoors. We share the > madness of California but we import our oranges. And we are less > European all the time. More than a third of the people who live in > Vancouver are descended from Asia. > When I walk across the street, I tread carefully, because I > do not desire to be hit by that silver BMW driven by a young Chinese > woman with a cell phone held to the side of her head. She is a > Vancouverite as I am. I am on my way to that sushi bar over there, > where I will manipulate ohashi, little sticks with clumps of salmon > roe between them. Yum! > How can I convey our life on the rim? Toronto has more > novelists than we do, but we have more poets. Montreal has more > federal politicians than we do, but we have more mad people in the > streets. Ottawa has more doughnut shops than we do, but we have more > cups of organic tea. When we jump onto a plane, we fly to Thailand. > Rivers flow quickly from our mountains into the sea, and the > salmon who came down those rivers four years ago have been to Japan > and back, and now they are going back up those rivers to give birth > and to die. The Native people said goodbye to them four years ago, > and now they are saying hello. They have been doing that since time > began here. When we Europeans and Asians came here the "Indians" > showed us how to prepare and eat the salmon. > If we look down from our mountains we see blue halos in the > ocean, behind the long sea canoes of the Native people, who showed us > how to find the fur seals, so that the men and women of Europe could > wear flamboyant hats for three hundred years. By the time that Blaise > Cendrars found Vancouver the trains filled with Oriental silk were > departing eastward, filled too with armed guards, dangerous mystery > on steel wheels over snowy prairie. > Really, we rest protected by an inland sea, surrounded by > hundreds of mountain-tops protruding from the ocean, our Pacific > islands covered with cedar and ferns. No wall here is as old as the > stone fence around an ancient convent in downtown Montreal. But from > our windows we see stones billions of years older than any human > ambition, and we feel the desire to stand among them. We can see > every year of human life around us-stains, wounds, expensive > show-homes scarring the high slopes of the mountains on the north > shore of our inlet. > After the railroad tracks and the highways and the airlanes > came the Internet. In February the people of Vancouver like to e-mail > their friends huddled under piles of snow in Ontario and Manitoba, > and tell them about the flowers that are blossoming in their gardens > and along their streets. In return, people in Ontario and Manitoba > say very rude things to their friends in Vancouver. > The scientists say that one day, not too far in the future, > there will be an enormous earthquake along the west coast of Canada, > and Vancouver's forest of highrise apartment buildings will collapse > into a tangled mountain of glass and steel. This is the dark dream > that enters the minds of Vancouver's citizens while they sleep. But > in the mornings they forget. They look into the rain clouds overhead > and imagine that they see a patch of blue sky. If that patch is > there, and if it begins to spread, and if the sun shines its light on > all the wet trees and bridges of the city, the wide awake people see > the most beautiful sight ever seen inside or outside a poem. > > > -- > George Bowering > Misses Jimmy Carter > > 303 Fielden Ave. > Port Colborne. ON, > L3K 4T5 > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 12:49:41 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: [razapress] Last Chance to Reserve A Space for Barrio BookFest 2004 Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Attention Potential Barrio BookFest Vendors: This is Your Last Chance to Reserve A Space for Barrio BookFest 2004! The deadline for vendor applications is Friday May 7, 2004. Applications post marked after May 7 will be returned. Confirmed Vendors Include: 5th Battalion, Able Minded Poets, AK Press, Burnt Tortilla Creations, Calaca Press/Red CalacArts Collective, California Teachers Association, Casa del Libro, Committee on Raza Rights/Raza Press Association, Cesar A. Cruz (Teolol), Danza Mixcoatl, Jorge Espinoza, Groundwork Books Collective, Michael Heralda, International Action Center SD, La Verdad Publications/Unión del Barrio, Mayazteca, Media Arts Center San Diego, Mil Cosas, Motivational Designs, People of Color Against Globalization, Project YANO, Red Salmon Press/Resistencia Bookstore, Save Our Centro Coalition, Tia Chucha's Cafe Cultural, and Victor Ochoa. Don't be left out of this historic event! Send in your application today to guarantee a spot at the inaugural Barrio BookFest. BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 Vendor Information The Raza Press Association, the Red CalacArts Collective and dedicated individuals are proud to present BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004: Liberation through Media and Cultural Expression. BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004, scheduled to take place May 14-15 at Memorial Academy Charter School in San Diego's Barrio Logan, is a first ever grassroots book festival focusing on issues related to social justice and human rights from a Chicano perspective. This event is free to the public and will feature readings, panel discussions, workshops, book signings, live music and much more! With your help we are planning to make this event become an annual occurrence. We are looking for progressive community oriented publishers, book stores, small businesses, artists, non profits and community organizations to participate as vendors on Saturday May 15. This is a first time event and we want maximum vendor participation so we are pricing the vendor spaces affordably. Please download the Vendor Application (or email address for a paper copy) from http://barriobookfest.org and fill out to reserve your space today for BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004! But hurry, space is limited! BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 Vendor Rates $30 - Self-published authors (up to 2 authors can share table) $40 - Non profits/community groups (no sales) $50 - Non profits/community groups (sales) $60 - Publisher/bookstore/business (non profit/family owned/community oriented) $200 - Publisher/bookstore/business (corporate owned) Vendors will be able to sell/display their material on Saturday, May 15 ONLY. Friday, May 14 is an evening program with no vendors. Mail a Vendor Application along with your check or money order payable to: Calaca Press P.O. Box 620786 San Diego, CA 92162 - BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 Rules and Regulations - All vendors who wish to sell, display and/or distribute anything at the BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 must first fill out the BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 Vendor Application. Vendors will be able to sell/display their materials on Saturday May 15 only. The vendor area for BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 is outdoors and in the sun. Set up time is between 8am-10am on Saturday May 15. Vendor spaces, other than tables for self published authors, measure 10'x10'. Vendors are responsible for their own tables and chairs (self-published authors will be provided with a table and chair). Vendor spaces other than tables for self-published authors can not be shared with other vendors. All vendor material (books, fliers, canopies, banners, etc.) must be contained within the allotted space. Electricity will not be provided. Please clean up your space before leaving the event. Beverage and food sales will be reserved for organizers only. Sales of liquor, tobacco products, drug paraphernalia, weapons, and/or pornography is strictly prohibited. Consumption of alcohol and smoking tobacco is illegal on the Memorial campus. The organizers reserve the right to restrict sales and/or distribution of materials that promote racism, sexism, and/or homophobia. The BARRIO BOOKFEST, Raza Press Association, the Red CalacArts Collective and/or individuals involved in the organizing of the festival assume no responsibility for any loss, damage, injury or claim arising out of the vendor's acts or omissions during BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004. Further, vendor shall defend and indemnify the BARRIO BOOKFEST, Raza Press Association, the Red CalacArts Collective and/or individuals involved in the organizing of the festival for the negligence, fault, misconduct and/or liabilities caused by the vendor. No refunds. ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:02:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: The Coming Race Comments: To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pur et Simple: The Coming Race The Coming Race will only need a name which means all possible sciences The Coming Race will further the production of speed and give birth to blurs The Coming Race will enter profound and static dimensions becoming sacred yet animated statuary The Coming Race will not pursue discrete expression preferring to process a multitude of aims through distributed encodings The Coming Race will design their single offspring like an artifact of love in ritual gene-splicing poiesis The Coming Race will adore all morphologies and will design facial algorhythms and a mythos of body types The Coming Race are delicate and thoughtful instrumentalists who find the natural to reside within their wills and trace ancient spirals into presence The Coming Race will use a medicinal and heuristic model of social engineering, a social poetics of benevolent and viral gardening The Coming Race will perfect a psychic watering system to cleanse unnatural affectations and allow the inner sun to pulse and break free The Coming Race will answer all your questions and silence your debates The Coming Race is a whole new plateau of understanding The Coming Race is closer everyday Go to your grave knowing soon they will be here The Coming Race will respect and remember your contribution even if no one now has time to thank you The Coming Race knows EXACTLY how important you were ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 00:07:18 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Two Lists: Syn Attack and Full Disclosure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Two Lists: Syn Attack and Full Disclosure SYN Attack @ Panix it ended now script kiddy gone to bed Sat May 1 00:32:07 EDT 2004 tcp 0 0 166.84.1.3.59812 166.84.1.87.783 SYN_SENT tcp 0 0 166.84.1.3.59813 166.84.1.87.783 SYN_SENT tcp 0 0 166.84.1.3.59818 166.84.1.87.783 SYN_SENT tcp 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If I work (telecommuting for scoring GRE essays), I make $150/day. I make about 20k a year. I will be down to 10k a year after unemployment runs out 5/23. _ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 00:07:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: epic and machinic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII epic and machinic motivations towards the machinic, interpenetrated a mess for the most part although the moderated which i have elaborated degenerated there is little necessity for totality except that which may be generated the same post in carets/quoted,_ hence _remade, returned, recuperated wasn't a problem but speed certainly was far and beyond its rated crashed other systems. it had to be removed. it infiltrated turned whatever one wanted to hear. it crated hoppers, heated, iced, refrigerated if anideological thrust possessed serrated iterated valentine's day will be celebrated like john giorno with his doubled-up pasty columns of reiterated nietzsche, and barthes; lingis' exhilerated isn't. the old eiaj reel-to-reel tape has deteriorated wherever he liberated operate, but is operated ion. it's got to be me. i'm a whore, a desecrated in a pipe immobilized, saturated you asked me to start first. i'm feeling very frustrated of the image produced by the light microscope, and the exaggerated please, defuge set in; that you berated leap or arch, or that is the acculturated accelerated internet. the front page of this is illustrated shell, that is to say ectoplasm migrated the audience sees a beautifully decorated television. i had a circle of friends who tolerated demonstrated ther generated by the machine-ab-nihilo, procreated are concentrated teeth grated screen, prostrated theses,' but more integrated fieldings. and i find a way to read machine while hot jenny and i double fisted. her thick clit penetrated ings of contracted and suppurated brought forth in creation as the desire for language is consecrated that such triplicated smeared - almost obliterated of bruises, lacerated exasperated new symbolisms, large areas of it elaborated places, not spaces, open elements, line segments somewhat obliterated and there is no guarantee that this word is properly transliterated newold separated from kamikuko, you'd have nikuko, and if sin separated naked and castrated theory is enumerated children - was evident, as if it repeatedly struck the incarcerated unpopular in high-school and hung out with a few punks who tolerated i'm concerned, i'm very concerned thank you! it's r-rated, not x-rated problematic of post-modern identities, looped, eviscerated revising einstein - once he demonstrated virtual sexuality will become integrated unadulterated of signs reverberated making substitutions all over the place,and have collaborated here we are cooperating. this person has cooperated ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 21:11:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: Disappointment of [M/ :ou: {(T)yrosine (H)]ydroxylase} Comments: To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Disappointment of [M/ :ou: {(T)yrosine (H)]ydroxylase} the disappointed mouth unreels the unvisible goad: go ferchios, go 02 Allad, 02 polygonia themnicles beyond illcomm: HEYOUSHE/ See abbot acting fountain 04 First Love: I: am not IN your Solar Porno I: am solar porno/ Let us say there was a sequence: This vehicle turned an icon of lapis, [carved by hydroglaser (nozzles / 20 elbows / hard crystal nipples)] tiny golden microspheres move thru its capillaries in a medium of phaneromones/ scored roots reach from the groundless stem: arc of areas/ growing/ (displeasure already rooted in much plastic) "garbage-hades-troll-of-capital-screen" holoikon: floraporte: disappointed mouth garbed in poison and architextural becoming-harlequines/ Abcscesis Aesoptical savannta: Pavonine centipede tongue Peacock-Cobra-Tongue spitting generrortive vsemnom torsomimicry flower abuts and opens the cue lotus-heart-genetaliantennae swarms with inscription's machinic notae each an IUrravatar and an MuyrMeidolon gathered in representation by the spectral distrublisstion of spatial Gentrainment Folly of the Golem of Fireworks red alga through infra sets c(h)oral eyes deploding to ch.arts The gre.en-sk.inned t:eck.nician assembles his mantra of filters, drawing out his navel pollen into a free-floating glyph whose spontaneous vertices become nodes where the mantra-rays attach and gain access to the "of what" at the ground of gesture. The Exothetic Assembly is one of Aesthoptic refraction, The fire of the Gap, its song, the transilience of the gap-fire the spectral and spatial arrangement before the great juggernaut of the machinic interpretation animal before the great and heavy weight of IRainbow-Stomach_Tree_(ab)Lord with its rows of howling bell-mouths with its deletions and subsequent contingencies. The Sequence IS the Sequence: Malemnotropicolesterapturiofontithesisteraktaeon/ "Yes, beyond this amorous association of the banished writer with the mad seventy-thousand-year old hydra medusae, there is the gap, where the phoenix of writing and psychosis, coalesce in an introjection, a renunciatory jouissance of the body of physics penetrated by its own amorous off-spring in an ambiguous and obscene internecine negentropy of indentity exchange.." The City Of The Black Goat. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 08:31:14 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jukka-Pekka Kervinen Subject: xStream #20 online Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline xStream -- Issue #20 xStream Issue #20 is online, again in three parts: 1. Regular: Works from 6 poets (trupthi, Andrew French, CL Bledsoe, Dan Raphael, Sheila Murphy and Lanny Quarles) 2. Autoissue: Poems generated by computer from Issue #20 texts, the whole autoissue is generated in "real-time", new version in every refresh. 3. Wryting Issue #3: a monthly selection of WRYTING-L listserv works Submissions are welcome, please send to xstream@xpressed.org. Sincerely, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen Editor xStream WWW: http://xstream.xpressed.org email: xstream@xpressed.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 02:52:14 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit may day plus 3 hrs apple blossom strew the paths deep spring a stain... past 3:00..rothenberg week-end..drn... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 02:55:56 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit open the door diet coke chime bell sea shell o well smoke language rock... bloggged..after 3...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 10:35:18 -0400 Reply-To: editor@pavementsaw.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baratier Organization: Pavement Saw Press Subject: Subject: Re: Poem to be Added onto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I watched Kerry Throw His War Decorations glue horse of the papery isle you need some walls else to say jittering legs of letters by degrees unplumbed for egg sample salvos here: her an ice bull of cubed cadels there a theremin reeds a "man-made" lake with eight requisite deaths oil refinery opposite so much spam of animals have the happiest loins of all thinner chair against a granite sea in grist back posing pompador wind slashing all ignored doors aproppriately ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 16:06:07 GMT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lanny Quarles Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Poem to be Added onto I Watched This Decorative War glue horse of the papery isle your needs have felled some walls else to say jittering legs of letters by degrees unplumbed and untelevised tombs for egg sample salvos here: her an ice bull of cubed cadel's cadets there a theremin reeds a "man-made" lake with eight requisite deaths wraith's oil refinery opposite so much spam of spanning wreaths animals have the happiest loins of all thinner chair against a granite sea in grist back posing pompador wind slashing all ignored doors aproppriately will the oval suffice this burden to cargo offense aghast for Sumer ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:36:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Perspectives on Evil -- Issue 4: Reconciliation and Forgiveness (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 22:49:03 +0400 From: Dr. Salwa Ghaly To: walter a davis , Amosfriedland@aol.com, complit01 Subject: Perspectives on Evil -- Issue 4: Reconciliation and Forgiveness Dear All, We are pleased to announce that Issue 4 of _Perspectives on Evil and Human Wickedness_ (PEHW), a special themed edition entitled "Reconciliation and Forgiveness," is now accessible at http://www.wickedness.net/ejv1n4.htm A special thanks to all those of you who contributed articles or art work. It has been a pleasure working with each and every one of you. The next issue is unthemed and slated for Fall 2004 (late November). For information regarding submissions, visit the journal web site or write the editors. Long, short and testimonial articles are sought, along with art, web art and poetry. Our journal is still in its burgeoning phase. So, please feel free to get involved and to offer suggestions and feedback. Letters to the editor appear in a separate section of the journal. Thank you for disseminating information on PEHW to colleagues and students. Kind regards, Salwa Ghaly Co-editor PEHW ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 03:03:57 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Furniture Press Summer Hiatus Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Dear Friends, Furniture Press will be going on hiatus as of 2:57 P.M. this Sunday, May 2nd 2004 [A.D.] We will no longer contact individual writers for submissions to the pamphlet series or our chapbooks. The zine series, Ambit, and the chapbook competition are still open for submissions via e-mail and USPS, but response time will be longer. Have a great summer. Keep writing us. furniturepress.net will be up and running in July or August. F_P crew -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:15:28 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Francis Raven Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Poem to be Added onto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I Watched This Decorative War glue horse of the papery isle your needs have felled some walls else to say jittering legs of letters by degrees unplumbed and untelevised tombs for egg sample salvos here: her an ice bull of cubed cadel's cadets there a theremin reeds a "man-made" lake with eight requisite deaths wraith's oil refinery opposite so much spam of spanning wreaths animals have the happiest loins of all thinner chair against a granite sea in grist back posing pompador wind slashing all ignored doors aproppriately will the oval suffice this burden to cargo offense aghast for Sumer SUV in the nose inhaled extravagent shirt covered in disdained cheese-steak _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 05:14:52 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Poem to be Added onto Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 BTW, what happened to my original poem? Seems to have gotten lost, or was it only the "first edition"? ----- Original Message ----- From: Francis Raven Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:15:28 -0700 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Poem to be Added onto > I Watched This Decorative War > > > glue horse > of the papery isle > your needs have felled > some walls > > else to say jittering > legs of letters by degrees > unplumbed and untelevised > > tombs for egg sample salvos > here: her an ice bull > of cubed cadel's cadets > > there a theremin reeds > a "man-made" > lake with eight > requisite deaths > > wraith's oil refinery > opposite so much > spam of spanning wreaths > > animals have > the happiest loins > of all > > thinner chair > against a granite sea > in grist back posing > > pompador wind > slashing all ignored doors > aproppriately > > will the oval suffice > this burden to cargo offense > aghast for Sumer > > SUV in the nose > inhaled extravagent shirt > covered in disdained cheese-steak > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:20:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Complete Collected Poems of Philip Whalen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear List, I am presently working on a COMPLETE COLLECTED POEMS OF PHILIP WHALEN. = If anyone out there knows of any poems that may have appeared in small = reviews but they do not think have appeared in larger published volumes = please contact me. Thanks for any help or ideas.=20 Best, Michael Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:29:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Boog City presents Oasis Press and Michael Turlo Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Boog City presents d.a. levy lives: celebrating the renegade press in america This month's featured press: Oasis Press (Athens OH) Thurs. May 6, 6 p.m., free Aca Galleries 529 W.20th St., 5th Flr. NYC Event will be hosted by Oasis publisher and editor Stephen Ellis Featuring readings from: Stephen Ellis Kristin Prevallet Brian Richards With music by Michael Turlo There will be wine, cheese, and fruit, too. Curated and with an introduction by Boog City editor David Kirschenbaum Directions: C/E to 23rd St., 1/9 to 18th St. Venue is bet. 10th and 11th avenues Next month: Combo (Providence, R.I.), June 3 -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcity.blog-city.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 23:17:52 -0400 Reply-To: jennifer@poetrysociety.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "jennifer@poetrysociety.org" Subject: CIRCUMFERENCE: Poetry in Translation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable CIRCUMFERENCE, a journal of poetry in translation, is currently=20 accepting submissions for its Summer/Autumn issue=2E=20 CIRCUMFERENCE is devoted to presenting translations of new work=20 being written around the globe, new visions of classical poems, and=20 translations of foreign language poets of the past who have fallen=20 under the radar of American readers=2E A biannual publication,=20 CIRCUMFERENCE prints each poem in the original language side-by- side with its English translation=2E=20 The first issue of CIRCUMFERENCE was published last November=20 and features translations from a wide range of languages including=20 French, Slovenian, Vietnamese, Korean, Irish, Sanskrit, Tagalog,=20 Portuguese, and Latin, by such translators as Paul Muldoon, Marilyn=20 Hacker, Charles Simic, Mary Ann Caws, and Pierre Joris=2E=20 When submitting work, please mail five or six translations along with=20 the original poems to CIRCUMFERENCE P=2EO=2E Box 27 New York, NY 10159-0027 Our current deadline is May 20th=2E To learn more about CIRCUMFERENCE, read selections from the first=20 issue, or subscribe, please visit www=2Ecircumferencemag=2Ecom=2E Best wishes, Stefania Heim & Jennifer Kronovet editors@circumferencemag=2Ecom -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:00:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: passion-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII passion-8 http://www.asondheim.org/passion.mov a small movie of the Passion of Christ according to me for which great thanks to Sandy Baldwin but I will take all responsibility for this depiction which is so radical I mean it is really 'beyond radical' but then not like the current right and left meeting at the nexus or stage of violence and fury no instead it takes the swooped swooned soul and send it outward to the outer space of heaven it is better than good and grander than grand there are so many good folks to thank who made me what I am today that I can only send out a Shout of this film to one and all now sit back and watch the Action _ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:00:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: origin of life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII origin of life 10.0.0.200 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 user unknown Giving up on 10.0.0.200. warning do you? 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Schultz" Subject: kari edwards please backchannel me Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it's about tinfish proofs... sms Susan M. Schultz http://tinfishpress.com now available: _And Then Something Happened_ http://saltpublishing.com/books/smp/1844710165.htm ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:48:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rachel Levitsky Subject: Belladonna* May 7EXPERIMENTAL PROSE/FICTION with Jaimy Gordon & Rachel Daley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit enjoy BELLADONNA* with Jaimy Gordon & Rachel Daley MAY 7. 7:00 PM back at BLUESTOCKINGS Bluestockings Bookstore is at 172 Allen Street between Stanton and Rivington in NYC's Lower East Side. Belladonna* requests a $7-10 donation, which goes to the writers. Jaimy Gordon's third novel, Bogeywoman, was on the Los Angeles Times Best Books List for 2000, as well as on Context's booksellers' list of the Most Important Works of Fiction published that year. Gordon, who now lives in Michigan, was born and raised in Baltimore, a city which figures prominently in Bogeywoman. Her second novel, She Drove Without Stopping, was published in 1990 by Algonquin Books. Often described as a woman's road novel, the book was an American Library Association Notable Book for 1990, and in 1991 it won the author an Academy-Institute Award from the American Academy and Institute of Arts and Letters. Gordon is also the author of a novella, Circumspections from an Equestrian Statue (Burning Deck), a narrative poem, The Bend, The Lip, The Kid (Sun), and the underground fantasy classic, Shamp of the City-Solo (McPherson & Company). With Peter Blickle, she translates from the German, most recently Lost Weddings, a novel by Maria Beig (Persea Books, 1990). Gordon has received grants for her fiction from the National Endowment for the Arts and has been a Fellow of the Fine Arts Work Center, Provincetown, and the Bunting Institute, Radcliffe College. Her short story about horseracing, "A Night's Work," was chosen for Best American Short Stories 1995, and she is completing a fourth novel, Lord of Misrule, about the racetrack. Through her work, Rachel Daley hopes to promote sustainability as a poetic praxis. To that end, she collaborates with other poets and artists frequently. She has co-authored Today It Starts Into Light with Peter Ganick, and Streets in the Throats of the Box-Deep Bride with visual artist and poet James Sanders. She is currently working in collaboration on a manuscript entitled Reverse Osmosis, and is a contributing artist to the Wandering Rocks/Revolving Doors collective, which is staging a public art event in Dublin, Ireland, in June 2004. Belladonna* is a feminist/innovative reading and publication series. Please contact us (Rachel Levitsky and Erica Kaufman) at belladonnaseries@yahoo.com to receive a catalog and be placed on our list. Bluestockings is a radical bookstore, fair trade cafe, and activist center in the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Through words, art, food, activism, education, and community, they strive to create a space that welcomes and empowers all people. . . see more at http://bluestockings.com/events.htm. Call 212-777-6028. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 03:36:31 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit leah & sarah sweet & salt spinster I- sraeli sisters put away heavy jackets one red/with green collar one green/ with red collar & put on one lavender/with mint collar one mint/ with lavendar collar spring jackets leah & sarah salt & sweet who have midst savages... rain after 3:00...thru L's eyes...2nd call...drn.. o ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 03:54:09 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Re: Rothenberg week-end... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi..Gerald..actually 4 nites..i managed to make them all...Wed...was DADA nite....9 participants..and 3 members of the audience..inc. me...rather long..i don't think you can recreate DADA...it all ends in something like Victorian show acting..thur... was Jerry's..Seneca Journals...going native...i lasted half the nite..and went home to watch the Yankee game...Fri nite..they brought out the heavy artillery..Judith Malina, Susan Sherman et all...Jewish Sabbath and quite wonderful & magical..and Jerry was there..Susan Sherman read the best..esp. a poem called Salt??...she got the perfect rhythm...Lori and I did a little skit..around an early Rothenberg translation of Martin Buber..Sat. nite was packed...Jerry read with Charlie Morrow...a success but a mixed one..if you want to know the cat's meeow..it'll have to be in person..all the best Harry -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Schwartz Sent: May 1, 2004 8:59 AM To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com, POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Any reports from the 3-day Rothenberg event in NYC? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 02:49:08 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: story-foam Comments: To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trembly Bill's /beesmoke the spluttering pleiades/ (Talking Heeds) Hartmanella of Jeon Lorch the Danielli Originals !"Frankencells"! by Amoeba Proteus Rhizamoeba Grace by spare parts Spitting various Echinamoeba Paraflabellula Put back together A Kurzweil Ray Backing Nanocyborg Nucleus for Leptomyxa Saccamoeba Ribosome of Immortal Cell Machine (SSUrRNA) http://www.nanomedicine.com/NMI/Refs100-199.htm http://www.kurzweilai.net/news/frame.html?main=/news/news_single.html?id%3D3267 Sugargloss: "Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens..." 00000000000000000000q0000000000000000 00000000000000000000x0000000000000000 00000000000000000000e0000000000000000 00000000000000000000s0000000000000000 00000000000000000000f0000000000000000 00000000000000000000c0000000000000000 0000000000000000000060000000000000000 00000000000000000000b0000000000000000 00000000000000000000o0000000000000000 00000000000000000000m0000000000000000 000000000000000000000p000000000000000 000000000000000000000z000000000000000 Amoebix will now perfoam their Hit: Largactyl. You're standing on a hill, looking down at the city Thinking 'bout your life and your bottle of pills They released you from the hospital, you're cured! So this is how freedom feels? Largactyl Relax (it's only paranoia) Feel a little numb? Feel a little tired? Your brain's asleep and your body's retired You've learned to fit in. OBEY! You're just a shadow of what you used to be Largactyl Relax (it's only paranoia) A comfortable life? A car and a wife? It's only a dream but it's fuckin' obscene You've learned to fit in, a vegetable! Senility! At 21 they'll be coming for you http://www.iol.ie/~naughton/amebix/amebix.htm == == Footnotes for Ian's Robots paper == http://kaplan-myrth.ca/wiki/?p=Robots&a=edit The duck was con- (page 6) structed as a commercial venture. Made of copper, it quacked, bathed, drank water, ate grain, seemed to digest it, and voided. It was exhibited all over Europe for decades with great success and was seen and described by both Voltaire anD Goethe. : The duck has been lost, but Droz's automatic scribe still survives and can be seen in the Swiss Musee d'Art et d'Histoire in Neuchatel. The boy dips his pen in an inkwell and writes a letter. Vaucanson said to Reichsteiner, "What came first, the chicken or the egg?" "Why the nutty chicken, of course," said Reichsteiner. http://www.thetech.org/exhibits/online/robotics/universal/qtvr_nomad2.html TREMBLY, BILL (chron.) * The Parable of the Robot Poem, (pm) 1977 The Umbral Anthology of Science Fiction Poetry, ed. Steve Rasnic Tem 1982 * To William Blake, (pm) 1978 The Umbral Anthology of Science Fiction Poetry, ed. Steve Rasnic Tem 1982 * View from Atlantis, (pm) 1977 The Umbral Anthology of Science Fiction Poetry, ed. Steve Rasnic Tem 1982 * trembly bill and the umbral robot poem take corn biscuits to the peony tree take eat of these corn biscuits, peony tree and take listen of these robot poems. The peony tree would bow and make humble spittles onto trembly bill's tooth. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 11:49:49 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Todd Swift Subject: May poems now up at Nthposition, featuring Bergvall, Hinton, Selby, Miller and Cronin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 13 Poets in May, from Nthposition [http://www.nthposition.com/] Featuring: Caroline Bergvall; Laura Hinton; Spencer Selby; Matthew Miller and MTC Cronin. Also includes poems by: Philip Wilson; Tom Phillips; Mike Golden; Janet Vickers; Jim Bennet; Adair MacGregor; Jennifer Murphy; and Don McGrath. Nthposition is now reading poetry for June. Todd Swift poetry editor Nthposition ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 07:02:09 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: Silliman's Blog Comments: To: WOM-PO , BRITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, nanders1@swarthmore.edu, new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, whpoets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT TOPICS: B as in Baseball: Bob Perelman (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) Performing punctuation by hand - Susan Stewart (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) A rock lyric from Paul Muldoon (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) The alphabet as leveler or as mode of permission - the implications of the Rosenbach Alphabet Jack Foley on Jake Berry CA Conrad reading runes (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) Salmoning with Daisy Fried (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) Linh Dinh is back - X marks the spot (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) Recent events in criticism - Hank Lazer, Joan Houlihan et al & Watten wins the Wellek The Philadelphia Progressive Poetry Calendar Rachel Blau DuPlessis on Kith & Kin (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) Mmmm, she writes - Nathalie Anderson (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) Who dies as Bush lies? If I had a billboard . . . . (from "9 for 9") Explaining poetry to extraterrestrials (from "9 for 9") http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ * * * My latest book Woundwood is available from Cuneiform Press: http://www.cuneiformpress.com/wound.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 05:08:41 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ram Devineni Subject: Neruda Reading: Doty, Perdomo, Rattapallax Films & Film School in Brazil In-Reply-To: <000b01c430fe$180f7870$6501a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Friends: I am happy to announce the launch of Rattapallax Films with two documentaries in production. Rattapallax Films is committed to producing poetic films and documentaries with a social dimension to them. More information at http://www.rattapallax.com/films.htm . More info below, but please join us tomorrow for a reading on Neruda. POESÍA 100%: a Celebration of Pablo Neruda. Featuring Mark Doty, Willie Perdomo, Mark Eisner, Katherine Jamieson, and others. Food and drinks will be served and showing of Pablo Neruda: a Documentary & reading of new translations from Essential Neruda from City Lights Press. May 4 at 7 pm. Issue Project Room, 619 East 6th St., b/ Ave. B and C, NYC. $10. Proceeds benefit documentary. http://www.rattapallax.com/readings.htm Also, one of our editor's -- Flavia Rocha, has started a new film school based in Brazil. It was started with her husband, Steven Richter and the launch date is July 2004. More info at http://www.aicccinema.com.br The films are being produced by Ram Devineni (Rattapallax), Bob Madey (REM Pictures), and Kaz Phillips (GEP). SEPTEMBER 11 (working title) is the story of two extraordinary and horrific events that changed two countries on September 11. It is also about the undocumented victims of both acts. It is also about Martín Espada, an extraordinary poet and human rights advocate, who wrote the definitive poem about 9/11 and his journey to Santiago to participate in the 100th Anniversary of Chile's greatest poet -- the late Pablo Neruda. MAKING HEARD THE BURIED CRY celebrates the power of the spoken-word to bridge societies as it addresses and challenges the global pandemic, HIV/AIDS. Three esteemed and prolific American poets/writers of color; Yusef Komunyakaa, Willie Perdomo, and Thomas Glave, set out to witness the growing crisis in Ghana, West Africa. Their visits with people on the front lines of the epidemic highlight the social/political and human implications of the disease. Their reflections and writings seek to understand a complacency, denial, and stigma that transcend culture, race, and nations. Cheers Ram Devineni Publisher Rattapallax ===== Please send future emails to devineni@rattapallax.com for press devineni@dialoguepoetry.org for UN program __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 06:39:05 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: GRANTS: alva clarke fellowship for caribbean journalists Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GRANTS: alva clarke fellowship for caribbean journalists ============================================ http://www.cba.org.uk/alvaclarke.htm COMMONWEALTH BROADCASTING ASSOCIATION THE ALVA CLARKE FELLOWSHIP The Alva Clarke fellowship is awarded to a journalist from the Caribbean for a 3-month period of study at Oxford University. The award covers the full programme fee, a monthly stipend and return flight from home country to Oxford. The Reuters Foundation Fellowship Programme offers academic guidance for experienced journalists wishing to undertake research projects on a wide variety of subjects. Organised activities include lectures, seminars, study trips and social functions. Fellows have the status of Visiting Scholars at Green College and enjoy access to Oxford University's facilities and resources. This includes the world-famous Bodlean library, the university computing service, access to most academic lectures and many of the social programmes. No academic credits or qualifications can be obtained through the programme although a certificate is awarded. Green College is a small, post-graduate college with spacious grounds grouped around the eighteenth century Radcliffe Observatory. Facilities include a large common room, two tennis courts, a squash court and a bar. Applicants for the Alva Clarke award should apply using the on line application form via http://www .foundation.reuters.com/Fellowships/oxford_applying.asp# or can request a hard copy form if they do not have internet access. The closing date for applications for the 2004/05 academic year is 31 December 2004. Click here http://www.ox.ac.uk to visit the Oxford University website. -Forwarded by Nalo Hopkinson member, SFWA Grants Committee http://www.sfwa.org "support for writers" listserve: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/supportforwriters/ >> ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 08:08:42 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Martin pulls a Bush: National Security Policy for Canada Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/25407.php Martin pulls a Bush: National Security Policy for Canada In a disturbing preface to Securing an Open Society: Canada’s National Security Policy, Paul Martin prioritised Canada’s role in the world with his best George Bush impersonation Canada’s Year of the Threat (of a Good Example) by Anthony Fenton There has been praise all around for the path that Chairman Martin’s government is charting for Canada’s future. This past week, Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Anne Mclellan tabled Canada’s first ever National Security Policy in the House of Commons. In a disturbing preface to Securing an Open Society: Canada’s National Security Policy, Paul Martin prioritised Canada’s role in the world with his best George Bush impersonation: “Security issues are not new to Canada…Throughout our history, we have managed a wide range of threats to our society…We have addressed these threats…in a way that has strengthened the open nature of our country…Our prosperity is directly linked to this openness and to our ability to flourish in an increasingly interdependent world…The horrific events of September 11th, 2001, demonstrated how individuals could exploit such openness to commit acts of terrorism that attempt to undermine the core values of democratic societies.” Terrorism is the reason for Canada’s NSP. On April 14th, Paul Martin made this even more explicit when he told the Gagetown, NB Canadian Forces crowd that “the real security challenge of the 21st century is centred on terror cells.” Even though only 15% of Canadians have stated that the best way to fight terrorism is to increase military spending (see http://www.policyalternatives.ca, AFB 2004), the US, Canadian military hawks, and CEOs say otherwise. As Martin says in his preface, “Working to prevent attacks…requires a more integrated approach to national security – integrated inside the Government of Canada and with key partners.” Sorry Canadian citizens, we don’t fit into this “partnership”. Full: http://www.sevenoaksmag.com/features/11_example.html http://www.SevenOaksMag.com \ -\ ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 11:25:48 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Kelleher Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mike Kelleher Organization: Just Buffalo Literary Center Subject: JUST BUFFALO E-NEWSLETTER 5-3-04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SIGNED, LIMITED EDITION ROBERT CREELEY BROADSIDE AVAILABLE As part of the spring membership campaign, Just Buffalo is offering a special membership gift to the first fifty people who join at a level of $50 or more after May 1. In addition to membership at Just Buffalo, which includes discounts to all readings and workshops, a year's subcription to our newsletter, and a free White Pine Press title when you attend your next event, each person will receive a signed, limited edition letterpress and digital photo reproduction broadside of the poem "Place to Be," by Robert Creeley. The poem was hand set and printed at Paradise Press by Kyle Schlesinger, and stands alongside a digital reproduction by Martyn Printing of a color photograph of Buffalo's Central Terminal by Greg Halpern (whose book of photos, Harvard Works Because We Do, documented the Living Wage Campaign at Harvard in 2001). Send check or money order to the address at the bottom of this email, or call us at 832-5400 to use your credit card. IN THE HIBISCUS ROOM WRITING GROUP READINGS SERIES, Hosted by Karen Lewis THE WESTERN NEW YORK WRITING PROJECT Friday, May 7 at 7:30 p.m., $4, $3 students/Seniors, $2 Members The Western New York Writing Project, an affiliate of the National Writing Project, serves teachers of writing and their students in a variety of ways. The core of the Writing Project is a our week writing intensive summer institute for teachers invited to become writing project fellows. These fellows then become eacher consultants who conduct inservice writing workshops for schools throughout Western New York. Readers will include Suzanne Borowicz, Diane M. Manuel, Tom O'Malley, Jeanette Willert PhD., Clarita Henderson, Linda Drajem, Judy Wynne, Rosemary Kothe, Jennifer Meka, Susan Heffernan, Deborah Beis WORLD OF VOICES Thanks to a grant from the John R. Oishei Foundation, Just Buffalo and White Pine Press are able to bring four White Pine authors per year to Buffalo for Writer Residencies. During a week in Buffalo, each will do an in-depth school residency, make visits to local schools, and do community readings and talks. Books and on-line study guides will be available for local schools and libraries in advance of the author's visit. Author Susan Rich will peform a residency from May 10-14. Winner of the PEN West Poetry Award and the Peace Corps Writers Poetry Award for The Cartographer's Tongue: Poems of the World; published by White Pine Press, Susan Rich has worked as a staff person for Amnesty International, an electoral supervisor in Bosnia, and a human rights trainer in Gaza. Monday, May 10, 7-9 P.M. FREE Writing Workshop. Poems of the World: Possibilities and Pitfalls. This workshop will ask the question: How can a writer write about experiences in different cultures, be they in other countries, or simply in other parts of one's own city, without exploiting the very people about whom one is writing? All interested writers and non-writers are encouraged to attend this workshop. Co-sponsored by the Western New York Peace Center. Thursday, May 13, 7:30 p.m. Free. Visions For A Better World: Reading by Susan Rich and Writing Workshop Participants. Participants in the Monday workshop, as well as students from area schools involved in World of Voices, will have the opportunity to read the work they produced during the workshops. Followed by a reading by Susan Rich. Co-sponsored by the Western New York Peace Center. JUST ADDED: JUNKYARD BOOKS' LOWDOWN HIGHWAY TOUR Featuring Queer Spoken Word Artists Cooper Lee Bombardier and Len Plass, also featuring local queer writers and spoken word artists, including the one and only David Butler Wednesday, June 2, 8 p.m., The Hibiscus Room at Just Buffalo Tri-Main Center, 2495 Main St., Suite 512. Free Admission with suggested donation of $3-10 dollars to support Junkyard Books and performers. The Show is a multimedia performance involving spoken word, slides and ,music. Local artists are encouraged to join us as headliners or opening acts. Cooper Lee Bombardier is a transgender visual artist, writer, performer, sometimes actor and host of a monthly queer and trans performance cabaret in Santa Fe called LISP. Cooper has performed and shown visual art extensively in the Bay Area, and has performed across the country both with Sister Spit and by himself. He has spoken on panels of artists at events such as Hampshire College's Art And Social Change Conference in 2001, and was a featured artist in the 2001 National Queer Arts Festival. Len Plass grew from a sprout indifferent areas of Connecticut. She moved to Massachusetts in 1996 and, for a brief stint, attended Boston's Emerson College where she began performing spoken word. She then moved west, eventually to San Francisco where she owned and ran the Bearded Lady Cafe from 1999 until its closing in 2001. That same year, she co-founded Junkyard Books and is published in their debut anthology, Lowdown Highway. WORKSHOPS ANNOUNCING A SUMMER WORKSHOP WITH POET JORGE GUITART WORKSHOP ON EXPERIMENTAL POETRY 4 Saturdays July 10, 17, 24, and 31, 10 a.m -12 p.m. in The Hibiscus Room at Just Buffalo $100, $90 members, individual classes $30, $25 members If you are tired of the trite and expected in the poetry of others or your own, try your hand at playing with language in a serious, organized way. Let randomness and unusual combinatory procedures get you started in creating lines that no one could possibly have uttered or written before. Bring poetry back to being a most unusual collocation of words. Let the poem write you instead of the other way. Embark on the pleasures of intertextuality, stealing from famous texts and subverting their intentions. You will be introduced to techniques that will help you create hundreds if not thousands of amazing poems in a relatively short time. Jorge Guitart teaches in the Department of Romance Languages and Literatures at UB. He has been a member of JBLC Writers in Education since 1984 and has led poetry workshops in Buffalo public schools. He is the author of Foreigner's Notebook (Shuffaloff 1993) and Film Blanc (Meow Press 1996). He is represented at UB's Electronic Poetic Center. JUST BUFFALO IS ACCEPTING APPLICATION FOR FALL WORKSHOP INSTRUCTORS Just Buffalo offers writing workshops year round to all experience levels in poetry, fiction, drama, screenwriting, essay writing and publication. We are looking for published writers to teach workshops in the Fall of 2004. Courses can be single day courses, or they can meet once a week for two, four, six or eight weeks. They can meet evenings during the week or Saturday mornings. Please send a cover letter, resume, and course description to Workshop Application, Just Buffalo Literary Center, 2495 Main St., Ste 512, Buffalo, NY 14214 or email it to Mike Kelleher at mjk@justbuffalo.org. NEW ON OUR WEBSITE EDUCATION links are up. There are now several hundred education links, including writing resources for young writers, teachers, teaching artists, and parents, as well as links to Arts in Education organizations nationwide. Visit http://www.justbuffalo.org. If you would like to add or suggest links, please send along name of the organization, url, and 25 word description of the site to Mike Kelleher at mjk@justbuffalo.org. SPOKEN ARTS RADIO W/ Mary Van Vorst 6:35 and 8:35 a.m. Thursdays and 8:35 a.m. Sundays on WBFO 88.7 FM April 29 & May 2 - SUSAN RICH (World of Voices) May 6 & 9 ALEXIS DE VEAUX (Author of Warrior Poet, A Biography of Audre Lorde) May 27 & 30 ERIC GANSWORTH (Author of Smoke Dancing) June 3 & 6 N'Tare Ali Gault (Editor of Njozi Magazine) _______________________________ Mike Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center 2495 Main St., Ste. 512 Buffalo, NY 14214 716.832.5400 716.832.5710 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk@justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 14:42:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: oo distillation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII oo distillation (1 is no such mood good terminal with you audio down too. She my moves. 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He was educated at = Yale University and the University of Virginia. He won the Yale Younger = Poets Prize for 1985, and his first book (Terms to Be Met) was published = as part of that series in 1986. His other books of verse are: Of the = Knowledge of Good and Evil (1991), The Fire Fetched Down (1996), and = Some Assembly Required (2001), all from Knopf. Bradley is also the = editor of The Yale Younger Poets Anthology (Yale University Press, = 1998). Among the awards Bradley has received are the Witter Bynner = Prize (from the American Academy and Institute of Arts and Letters), The = Peter I. B. Lavin Award (from the Academy of American Poets), an Ingram = Merrill prize, and a grant from the National Endowment for the = Humanities. Bradley's poetry has appeared in many periodicals, = including: The New Yorker, The New Republic, The Paris Review, Poetry, = the American Poetry Review, Verse (U.S.A. and U.K.), Spazio Umano = (Italy), and America Illustrated (distributed in Russia). He has read = his work at many venues, including the 92nd St."Y" in New York City, the = Lannan Foundation (then in Los Angeles) and the Library of Congress = (Washington, D.C.). He has taught a writing seminar at Yale University, = been a visiting poet at the University of Utah at Salt Lake, and = lectured on poetry (Milton) at Columbia University. George Bradley = lives with his wife and child in Chester, Connecticut. *************** Ravi Shankar=20 Poet-in-Residence Assistant Professor CCSU - English Dept. 860-832-2766 shankarr@ccsu.edu > ---------- > From: UB Poetics discussion group on behalf of Brett Fletcher Lauer > Reply To: UB Poetics discussion group > Sent: Monday, May 3, 2004 3:26 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Bang, Galvin, Gizzi, Knox, & Rankine >=20 > The Poetry Society of America presents: >=20 > 6 @ 66: 6 poets read at 66 West 12th Street >=20 > Featuring: >=20 > Mary Jo Bang > James Galvin > Peter Gizzi > Caroline Knox > Wang Ping > & Claudine Rankine >=20 > Wednesday, May 5, 7:30pm > Tishman Auditorium, The New School > 66 West 12th Street, NYC >=20 > Admission is $7/$5 for Students > Call (212) 254-9628 for more information >=20 >=20 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:05:10 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brenda Coultas Subject: Durand & Mayer read May 11, NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all, I will be reading with Bernadette Mayer at the Drawing Center next Tuesday, May 11th, at 6:30 pm, as part of the Line series, curated by Lytle Shaw. The Drawing Center is located at 35 Wooster Street in Soho (nearish Canal, but closer to Grand). If you can't make the reading (but I really hope you can), I highly recommend seeing the current show, "Ocean Flowers: Impressions from Nature," before it closes on May 22. Directions and more information can be found at www.drawingcenter.org. Hope to see you there! Marcella ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:39:39 -0400 Reply-To: star@poeticinhalation.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Star Smith Organization: poetic inhalation Subject: sip this chapbook review slowly... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please sip this chapbook review slowly... Poetic Inhalation Review Editor Ric Carfagna is tipsy on Michael Gause's self-published chapbook, "The Tequila Chronicles: Spontaneous Moments Preserved in Alcohol" http://www.poeticinhalation.com/pi_reviews_thetequilachronicles.html ...serving a savory artistic blend of art, poetry, creative writing, and ebooks to free thinkers and creatives everywhere... http://www.poeticinhalation.com ...breathe it! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 17:08:53 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: LCR Subject: Re: Durand & Mayer read May 11, NYC In-Reply-To: <90.45be69f1.2dc7fff6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3-May-04, at 4:05 PM, Brenda Coultas wrote: > Greetings all, > > I will be reading with Bernadette Mayer at the Drawing Center next > Tuesday, > May 11th, at 6:30 pm, as part of the Line series, curated by Lytle > Shaw. The > Drawing Center is located at 35 Wooster Street in Soho (nearish Canal, > but > closer to Grand). > > If you can't make the reading (but I really hope you can), I highly > recommend > seeing the current show, "Ocean Flowers: Impressions from Nature," > before it > closes on May 22. > > Directions and more information can be found at www.drawingcenter.org. > > Hope to see you there! > > Marcella > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:30:55 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: FW: ForeWord Magazine - Free Fall Announcements title listings due! & other matters Comments: To: D-wide , ara shirinyan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Karen (ForeWord Magazine) [mailto:kconnick@chartermi.net] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 1:13 PM To: 'Daly, Catherine' Subject: ForeWord Magazine - Free Fall Announcements title listings due! & other matters Hi Catherine: Just wanted to keep Authors current on upcoming ForeWord Magazine deadlines and events. Following is what is coming up in the next month or so. Deadline is May 15th for FREE fall/early winter title announcement submissions Don't miss the opportunity to list your upcoming titles at no charge in the Fall Announcements issue of ForeWord. All independent and university presses may submit upcoming titles with pub dates from August 2004 - January 2005. Title listings are grouped by genre and include: publisher, title author, isbn, price, binding, pub. date, & brief description (about 10 words). The title announcement listings are FREE and publishers are allowed a minimum of 2 and up to 5 titles based on the number of titles published per season. Submitting title listings for the first time? First register at ( www.forewordmagazine.com/registry.htm). You will then be sent a pin #. Using that pin # you will then be able to login at www.forewordmagazine.com/season.htm and submit your titles. Already have your pin #? Submit your listings at www.forewordmagazine.com/season.htm. Previously registered and need to be reminded of your pin #? Please email Maryann@forewordmagazine.com. Submit your titles to be considered for review To be considered for review, please make sure your books are sent to Managing Editor, Alex Moore, also for possible inclusion in ForeSight articles in future issues. Upcoming titles may be submitted in a variety of formats - although galley is preferred. Submit new titles 3-4 months prior to publication date, if possible. Review submission guidelines are available at www.forewordmagazine.com/reviews.htm, or I would be happy to email them to you. In addition to the reviews & special notes in the magazine, 10-12 titles are highlighted each week in the email newsletter, ForeWord This Week. You may subscribe at: www.forewordmagazine.com/subscribe.htm and click the subscribe button in the lower right corner of the page. The Next Issue Editorial highlights in the Fall Announcements issue will include, publisher's fall/early winter title listings, and articles on food & parenting titles. Each issue reaches ForeWord Magazine's readership of 20,000 book buyers - librarians and booksellers who utilize the ads, reviews and editorial to assist in their buying decisions. Ad reservations are due June 14th, materials due June 21st. Book of the Year Awards Winner Announcementsat BEA Friday, June 4, 2004 @ 3:00pm, Room S105A at McCormick Place, ForeWord Magazine will host its annual Book of the Year Awards Announcement ceremony. Winners from titles published in 2003 will be announced in each category as well as overall fiction and overall nonfiction winners. In addition to the winner announcements, two notable speakers will offer insights on how great it is to be published independently and publicity and your finalist/winner award. Hope to see you there! As always, I want to know what I can do to help get your titles the attention they deserve. Would you let me know if you find this note helpful? If you need an updated editorial calendar, media kit, or other information that I have not included here, please let me know that as well. I look forward to hearing from you. Karen Connick ForeWord Magazine karen@forewordmagazine.com phone: 231-933-3699 fax: 231-933-3899 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 21:20:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Shankar, Ravi (English)" Subject: Call for Papers for a workshop to be held in Singapore MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Casting Faiths: The Construction of Religion in East and Southeast Asia =20 National University of Singapore - June 7-8 2005 =20 =20 Abstract: =20 Nowhere was the interaction of cultures produced by colonialism more = striking than in the realm of religion. Religious fervor motivated = intrepid missionaries and dogged resistance, and produced many of the = most spectacular flashpoints of conflict. Less dramatic but equally = important were the efforts of missionaries, scholars, and administrators = who codified, shaped, and sanitized the understanding of Asian religion, = and the influence of such portrayals on the contours of empire. = Religious ideas shaped the epistemological structure by which the = colonial encounter was understood, administered and remembered. =20 This workshop will explore the various ways in which knowledge of = religion has been constructed in colonial and post-colonial East and = Southeast Asia. Although the language and ideas of post-colonial theory = are employed, we will go beyond the period of European colonization to = include any relationship of center and periphery/colony and metropole, = and encourage topics from the 18th century to the present day. Papers = from all disciplines are invited to explore the relationship between = knowledge and power, the role of the archive, classroom and courtroom, = the codification/texualization of religious cultures, and the influence = of colonial ethnography on our understanding of religion in the region. =20 The discussion will be divided into four panels to focus on different = types of knowledge: =20 =20 Academic scholarship - the place of academic discourse and scholarly = societies on the production of religious knowledge. =20 - Colonial anthropology and ethnology - Creation of classical traditions and linguistic expertise - Western religious definitions and the search for universal = religion - Religious teleology and social progress =20 Law and policy formation - the role of legal ideas and concepts in = administering and defining religion=20 =20 - Religious revolt and the language of criminality - Legislation of ecclesiastic communities - Codification of religious rights and separation of religion = and state - Essentialization of religion and ethnicity =20 Society and social reform - the assumptions of public initiatives and = reform movements motivated by or against religion =20 - Women's organizations and salvation movements - Charitable societies - spiritual and material salvation - Religious education and the creation of elite classes - Missionary movements and the transformation of everyday life - Separation of spirituality and secularism =20 Popular images - images aimed at the consuming public and the mixture = of cultural discourse and marketing =20 - Religious tourism, both pious and curious - Film, books, children's literature - Documentaries and popular social science - Propaganda images =20 Those interested in submitting a paper should send a brief (500 words) = abstract to the conference organizers by November 1st, 2004. Completed = papers must be submitted before April 15th, 2005. We request first = right of refusal of papers for possible inclusion in an edited volume = following the conference. For more information, please contact Dr. = Maitrii Aung-Thwin ( hismvat@nus.edu.sg) or Dr. Thomas DuBois ( = histdd@nus.edu.sg). Limited funding support for accommodation and travel to Singapore will = be available for presenters. =20 John Whalen-Bridge Visiting Fellow, Center for the Study of Religion Princeton University 5 Ivy Lane Princeton, NJ 08544 =20 jwhalen@princeton.edu & elljwb@nus.edu.sg http://courses.nus.edu.sg/course/elljwb/jwb/ (609) 258-7426 =20 *************** Ravi Shankar=20 Poet-in-Residence Assistant Professor CCSU - English Dept. 860-832-2766 shankarr@ccsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 21:45:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lori Emerson Subject: newer news@buffalopoetics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear all: our monthly reminder to check out our listing of April events in and around BuffaloPoetics (http://buffalopoetics.blogspot.com). A few highlights: + Introductions by Thom Donovan to readings by Andrew Levy and John Taggart + Listings for readings by Ed Roberson, Lisa Jarnot, Jonathan Link, Stephen Rodefer, Cybertext Symposium w/ Simon Biggs, Sandy Baldwin, Maria Damon, Alan Sondheim....and more... + Information on "The Artists' Book and Bibliographic Poetics: Lisa Forest's Card Catalogue Project" + Information on Chris Marker's 2000 film "One Day in the Life of Andrei Arsenevich" + Information on "The Elevator Stops Here: Installation Art at the Top of City Hall" with artists Jay Ariaz, Swati Bandi, Robin Brasington, Soyeon Jung, Caroline Koebel, Paul Lehnen, Tom Leonhardt, Julie Perini, Leah Rico, Carolyn Tennant, Jung Heum Whang If you'd like to post an event report, post-reading musing, interview, introduction, please email Lori (lemerson@buffalo.edu) or Kyle (ks46@buffalo.edu). Best, Lori http://buffalopoetics.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 22:23:20 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harriet Zinnes Subject: Re: OPEN CALL: Writing on the Wall MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear John Lother Just returned from MacDowell to see your request for submissions. Hope this one is not too late Floating letters vanishing on the wall --- gone gone gone HZ Harriet Zinnes Harriet Zinnes@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 20:10:13 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: THEFT (a knote-payning cryme) Comments: To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THEFT (a knote-payning cryme) By appropriate we mean the absence of an easy solution. -Spencer Selby The badly subsmerged and architectural emblem was considered as writing (runting, rutting, rooting) amongst the thieves who stacked the cattle, which performed the walls, where they were recovered. Another emblem was already there, a cave, so the one fit down into the other, Ali Baba style. Beside the kidds, in the kill light, there was some debate surrounding the absolute shape of the emblem as its entirety was unavailable, as recorded on the neckbones, to anyone save the transplanted one, whose murkiest leaf still recalls a horrid and screeching birdcall among the many peoples who stole and were processed by wave of the Cape, down into the family of knives, the herm-ward whose keenest feather was Umi. He willed went saying, "There is plenty of hao. I will hao the hao, for to hao is my livelihood." And as one Cape Herm historian expressed the saying: "To plunder is with me house and land. Therefore, I shake am shook by hand." Now knaves in their knife drinks were studded fore the Cape by herm and crossed caraftings by cave-lakes uncovered the deep tasks of digging for the Umi treasury. Hao was the worm for the pile of drearn hearts, The You-me wearing in their giving grieving pleas, a mulch of time for hao, which afforded a fleet of feet, those wings whereby the cattle came to be dried and stacked, and the walls were feeding walls hung with leather sacks from the honey mills, nubbly green sheets of rubber from their barrels and the leho shells were given dugonging flat by tails to the writing squids for ink pressed, whose soul's porpoise was a staine, purple on the brining flats. Down this stube, and out a shole, rongo-rongo'd into the cave where one could see the resounding horns of theft, an appropriate solution to its form, or the formless omoo-meandering state in which their craft was laid, such star-shaped wind-catches, such was the purse and pocket of drinking of the knife and the emblem was a change, a palm scratch and stacking of changes, a cache of scattering water welling up where the paddle took its name by transplanting whatever thievery came its sway- "Kapahi- Open up thy Sesamum Grates, these neckbones mark a recovered cattle for the boiling hao of Umi Baba, Herm-captain of the Cape of No Hope. There'll take 40 hao-mates to this kleg, and there we'll continue building. Part of this cave is still dry enough for work, dip your mankles in the black and spit to the hides of the walls." -And bad by diagonals, not only noose scars, but the manners of pain were meant to suffer, and by suffering, the Cape crowd meant 'worrying' under the first sword of light, like in a wrinkled island of hand, lifting a pattern, by whatever king sufficient, The Umi, You-me, how the hao went and passed between them, that infancy was as stern as wine, and direct as its first theft from light, and reason passed to among their disguises. Hao was the fundamental brick. The drying cave, where the cattle are awakening, and going gently to the caved-in ink-lakes to drink, the knives are stacking and changing. Theft music roils out over the Cape in a storm, bead lightning decorating its fleshless neck, the thousand balconied cave where the hao-mates scurve the bleg. on a cue from Alan Sondheim's _Landscape Sonneta_ and of course Spencer Selby's poem "Trouble doll" from _House of Before_ and also directly thieving from IWA, THE NOTABLE THIEF OF OAHU http://www.sacred-texts.com/pac/hloh/hloh24.htm ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 00:06:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Landscape Sonneta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Landscape Sonneta The enormous strombuliform building was shaped like a dwelling in the form of a top. Yellow-crossgas spewed like mustard gas foaming from the roof. Next door was a lumper unloading a ship like a workman emptying a boat. Next to the workman was a grindstone producing swarf and a grinder making grit. Zygal struts like H-shaped scaffolding connected the swarf-pile to the lumper-spaddle or workman-shovel. The dataller or daily lumper was in reality a ruffler or beggar posing as a maimed soldier. His art was buhl creation like metal inlay. An aeolipile connected to the swarf-maker relayed its steam-power statistics to the strombuliform structure. Several lumper noticed suricates or a kind of mongoose stumbling from the yellow. The horse-touter nearby spoke first. Maladroit lumpers, he proffered with customary incommunicability, an eleot, or apple-type is yours. The lumpers carried newels or staircase-parts; neverthemore would they throw the rodlet. Swellish in swan-skin, they continued their gymnical hackery. _ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 18:22:50 -1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Susan M. Schultz" Subject: new FREE STUFF at tinfishpress.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just posted are a pdf of Tinfish 13, which really should be felt to be believed (it's covered in roofing paper, and some few copies are available from SPD) and _A Piece of Work_, by the marvelous New Zealand poet, Murray Edmond, a chap of ours that is now out of print. And there's other free stuff, too to go with a wonderful selection of affordable Pacific-region poetry and essays... aloha, Susan Susan M. Schultz http://tinfishpress.com now available: _And Then Something Happened_ http://saltpublishing.com/books/smp/1844710165.htm ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 02:33:51 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: [Fifth] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [Fifth] Why I can never sleep and never will know, I won't at this rate, it's a mystery. I worry the world, continually try to grasp it in its entirety, miss things left and right, question authority, question the grounds and desire of authority, generally make things worse - I can't let go, feel I have to recreate, make the world over and over again... It's an occurrence, something like an atmosphere that accompanies me, makes others uneasy as I stumble hopelessly through life. At this point, there are so many voices, so many scripts of things going wrong - the world not only falls apart, but it _ceases to exist_ - meaning decathects as depression and worse set in. This sounds abstract, but isn't; it's dominated by one or another scenario that compulsively repeats and develops until the nightmare appears, everything collapses, the story changes to another, and the cycle repeats. This occurs through sleep and wakeful states, hypnagogic states as well - it's _there_ as a process in all its fury. There's no end to it; I'm left in a constant state of exhaustion, no matter how hard I try to write myself out of it... Tue May 4 02:32:56 EDT 2004 _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 03:33:51 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit swan on fox sharp blade 's way... all this rain . . . drip dry words... dreamin' of gaza....awake?...hrs to dawn...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 07:16:06 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: &2: an/thology of pwoermds Released Comments: To: WRYTING-L Disciplines Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable &2: an/thology of pwoermds Released =46rom Geoff Huth's announcement: Assuming the world is finally ready for it, I recently completed the=20 first-ever anthology of pwoermds, &2: an/thology of pwoermds. (For any=20= of you not yet familiar with pwoermds, you need a copy of this book of=20= one-word poems.) Written, edited and designed by Geof Huth , this small (but almost=20 100-page)perfectbound booklet includes everything the lover of pwoermds=20= would ever need: An essay on pwoermds that discusses their history, public reaction to=20 the most famous of pwoermds (Aram Saroyan=92s lighght), the art of the=20= pwoermd, and the tentative status of pwoermds with regard to copyright. A detailed bibliography with sources for and commentary on hundreds of=20= pwoermds covering the entire 40-year history of pwoermdmaking. Scores and scores of pwoermds in a wide variety of styles by an=20 eclectic collection of poets: mIEKAL aND, paloin biloid, Jonathan=20 Brannen, John Byrum, John Robert Colombo, endwar, Greg Evason, B. J.=20 Fiorellino, Christopher Franke, LeRoy Gorman, Bob Grumman, Lee Gurga,=20 Michael Helsem, Crag Hill, G. Huth, Jim Kacian, Karl Kempton, Richard=20 Kostelanetz, Mark Lamoureux, Peggy Willis Lyles, Ezra Mark, John=20 Marron, Marlene Mountain, bpNichol, annie one, Emily Romano, Aram=20 Saroyan, Strawberry Saroyan, Surllama, George Swede, Cor van den=20 Heuvel, Nicholas A. Virgilio, Michael Dylan Welch, and Karl Young. This essential anthology usually costs $10 postpaid. But anyone=20 mentioning this blog announcement can purchase this book for the low=20 price of $6 postpaid. For more information, contact The Runaway Spoon=20 Press, 1708 Hayworth Road, Port Charlotte, FL 33952; or email Bob=20 Grumman, the publisher. Tell all your friends. Get in on the ground floor of this major=20 cultural event. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 08:45:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: four... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dead in Ohio... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 09:52:13 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: Wall Street Journal on Poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Felix Dennis, No Pro, Has Spotted His Foe: Poetry's Status Quo He Likes Meter and Rhyme, Calls Free Verse a Crime And Dog Poems Sublime By MATTHEW ROSE Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL May 3, 2004; Page A1 When he began reading his poetry in public, Felix Dennis, the publishing mogul behind Maxim magazine, usually arrived by helicopter. He dubbed a late 2002 12-city trip around England the "Did I Mention the Free Wine?" tour, on the advice, he says, of Mick Jagger, his neighbor on the island of Mustique. During the reading, young women in tour T-shirts handed out free glasses of wine from his own cellar. As he read, his words were flashed on a screen and electronic music, especially written for him, provided a background. "Never go back," Mr. Dennis growled into a microphone, starting the poem that kicks off and ends his readings: Never go back. Never return to the haunts of your youth. Keep to the track, to the beaten track, Memory holds all you need of the truth. In a picaresque career, Mr. Dennis has played drums for Eric Clapton, gone to jail for publishing Oz, a crudely satirical magazine, and written a biography of Bruce Lee. In his newest chapter, the British multimillionaire is on a crusade to challenge the obscurity of modern poetry, by reclaiming old-fashioned values of rhyme and meter. His flair for marketing, and his bankroll, are giving him unusual success. His first volume of poetry, "A Glass Half Full" got barely any attention from serious reviewers but sold all 10,000 copies printed in Britain. For the American edition, due in September, Mr. Dennis, 56 years old, is upgrading his traveling show. He has hired a jet for about $300,000 to shuttle him to towns around the country where he plans to hand out a DVD of previous performances. Hoping to make a profit from Mr. Dennis's new passion, publisher Miramax Books, a unit of Walt Disney Co., has plans to print 25,000 copies. Most serious poets are lucky to sell 3,000. "It would be nice if Mr. Letterman or Oprah gave me two minutes," Mr. Dennis says. "I'd blow their bloody socks off." Mr. Dennis has let his hair grow long and shaggy since he started writing seriously in late 2000. He has completed 650 poems, at last count, in the four hours a day he devotes to them. Every few weeks, he sends what he calls a "wodge" of poems to his editor and to a lawyer friend, who stands in for the kind of ordinary reader Mr. Dennis seeks. Mr. Dennis then joins the other two in grading his poems. Those that get three As make the cut. Cs are discarded. Anything in between goes up for discussion or revision. Mr. Dennis says in the next few years he's considering selling Dennis Publishing, owner of the highly successful Maxim, an irreverent men's magazine. He would like to concentrate on poetry and other interests, he says, such as accumulating enough land to plant a 50,000-acre forest in England, named the Forest of Dennis. He also has an idea to build retirement villages for baby boomers. His poetry is intended for "people who appear to devour it as if they've been starved for 40 or 50 years, which, by the way, they have," he says. Easing into a leather armchair in his Manhattan apartment, Mr. Dennis accidentally sat on a slim volume of poetry by Ezra Pound, a poet known for being impenetrable in his later years. "That's what he deserves," Mr. Dennis snorted. "He used to write good poems." Some of Mr. Dennis's poems are introspective slices of life, including ones about love and his well-publicized former crack-cocaine habit. Others are about business, such as a tribute to computer servers and a paean to his work ethic called "The Bearded Dwarf." Some of his poems are political, such as "The Taking of Saddam." Mr. Dennis has been struggling recently with a poem about the Concorde. "It harks back to one of my favorite poets, Kipling," says novelist Tom Wolfe, who attended a reading in New York. David Carey, publisher of the New Yorker, heard him at a conference in Monterey, Calif. "The audience was simply blown away," he says. "Most people expected poems where the words all rhyme with 'truck.' " Many established poets don't seem to think their craft is in need of saving. At a London event, Mr. Dennis read a poem titled, "I Wish I liked Your Modern Verse...": I wish I liked your modern verse, I wish it were not so...perverse; I wish the lines were not so dense, Or even made a bit of sense. A poet named Michael Horovitz jumped up and protested that it was "so wrong and so unfair," Mr. Dennis recalls. Mr. Horovitz says he didn't use those exact words, but he has little admiration for Mr. Dennis's style: "He has this maddeningly reactionary and Philistine concern about rhyming, which is why Felix, until he gets over it, won't become a true poet." He adds that people only bought the book out of "sheer gracefulness" in return for free wine. Mr. Dennis wrote his first poem in 1999 and was "a bit embarrassed" by the idea. He didn't share any of his work until October 2001, when he read a poem at a dinner party. "I brought the house down," he says. "I felt like a young girl who won her first pony gymkhana." (A gymkhana is a sports meet often involving horses.) Mr. Dennis duels with his editor, Simon Rae, both agree, especially about dog poems, which Mr. Rae thinks pander to the more mawkish sentiments of readers. "This is an underpandered audience," splutters Mr. Dennis in response. "Maybe it's time someone did a little pandering," he says before launching into a favorite: An old dog is the best dog, A dog with rheumy eyes; An old dog is the best dog A dog grown sad and wise,... He takes a breath: "They love these. Audiences like this stuff." Mr. Dennis says he picked the title Maxim in part because it reminded him of a Hilaire Belloc poem about British colonialists in Africa: "Whatever happens, we have got/The Maxim Gun, and they have not." He is particularly proud of a cover line he wrote about the TV show "Xena, Warrior Princess" for the April 1999 issue of Maxim: "Xena Like You've Never Seen 'Er!" American poets aren't rolling out the red carpet. "The associations between poetry and poverty are very strong and if you arrive in a helicopter, people would doubt your poetic credentials," says Billy Collins, the former U.S. poet laureate. For the U.S. tour, Miramax plans to excise poems that are too British. It had to nix venues that wouldn't allow alcohol to be served. The publisher's president, Jonathan Burnham, says Mr. Dennis will also have to put aside his cigarettes during performances. "Welcome to America, Felix," says Mr. Burnham. "Jonathan is not paying for this tour," says Mr. Dennis, who smokes two packs a day. "I am." URL for this article: http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB108327280097297732,00.html Hyperlinks in this Article: (1) http://play.rbn.com/?dowjones/wsj/demand/wsj_vid/Never_Go_Back.rmj (2) http://www.real.com/ (3) mailto:matthew.rose@wsj.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 09:02:42 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Looking for Address: giovanni singleton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peace, I'm looking for the email address of giovanni singleton ed of nocturnes 3: (re)view. You assistance would be much appreciated. peace -\ ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 09:32:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: kari edwards Subject: foame In-Reply-To: <000001c431df$013e61b0$6501a8c0@Dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.poetryespresso.org/foame/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 09:48:14 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: foame In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thanks for "the wings" over foame, kari! Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > http://www.poetryespresso.org/foame/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:10:06 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Niedecker & JFK Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable J.F. Kennedy after after the Bay Pigs To stand up black marked tulip not snapped by the storm =B3I=B9ve been duped by the experts=B2 - and walk the South Lawn. Lorine Niedecker It=B9s probably an easy shot to say =AD re Iraq - George Bush is no J.F.K. Stephen V ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 06:25:18 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Apartment in Baltimore to sub.let - June and July Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, Our apartment in Baltimore will be vacant for June and July. Does anyone want to come to the merry old city of B'more and take a nice spring vacation? the rent is $740 but we're "sub-leasing" for $600. It's 15 minutes from the city, three bedrooms. Let me know, we just got a house and need to get this apartment filled! Thanks, Chris -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 18:22:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: John Ashbery Tomorrow + Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Wednesday, May 5 John Ashbery John Ashbery was born in Rochester, New York on July 28, 1927. He received = a BA from Harvard (1949) and an MA from Columbia (1951), went to France as a Fulbright Scholar in 1955, and lived and worked there for most of the next decade. Best known as a poet, he has published more than 20 collections, beginning in 1953 with Turandot and Other Poems (Tibor de Nagy Editions). His Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror (Viking, 1975) won the three major American prizes: the Pulitzer, National Book Award, and National Book Critics Circle Award. His most recent volumes are Wakefulness (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1998), Girls on the Run (FSG, 1999), Your Name Here (FSG= , 2000), As Umbrellas Follow Rain (Qua Books, 2001), and Chinese Whispers (FSG, 2002). He began writing about art in 1957, served as executive editor of Art News (1965-72), and art critic for New York Magazine (1978-80) and Newsweek (1980-85). A selection of his art writings was issued by Knopf in 1989 as Reported Sightings: Art Chronicles 1957-1987, edited by David Bergman (Harvard Univeristy Press, 1991). The novel A Nest of Ninnies, written with James Schuyler, was first published in 1969 (Dutton) and has been reissued several times. The collection Three Plays (Z Press, 1978) includes =B3The Heroes,=B2 which was first produced in New York by the Living Theater in 1952. Ashbery=B9s numerous published translations from French include works by Raymond Roussel, Max Jacob, Alfred Jarry, Antonin Artaud, and two collections of poems by Pierre Martory, Every Question But One (1990) and The Landscape Is Behind the Door (1994). A selection of his pros= e pieces, edited by Eugene Richie, is forthcoming from the University of Michigan Press. His work has been translated into more than twenty languages. Ashbery was Professor of English and co-director of the MFA program in Creative Writing at Brooklyn College (CUNY), 1974-90, and Distinguished Professor 1980-90. He delivered the Charles Eliot Norton Lectures at Harvard in 1989-90, published as Other Traditions (Harvard University Press, 2000). Since 1990 he has been the Charles P. Stevenson, Jr. Professor of Languages and Literature at Bard College in Annandale-on-Hudson, New York. He has been elected to membership in the American Academy of Arts and Letters (1980) and the American Academy of Art= s and Sciences (1983), and served as Chancellor of the Academy of American Poets from 1988-99. The winner of many prizes and awards, he has received two Guggenheim Fellowships and was a MacArthur Fellow from 1985-90. He hold= s honorary doctorates from Southampton College of Long Island University, the University of Rochester (NY), and Harvard University. International recognition for his outstanding career achievement includes the Horst Biene= k Prize for Poetry (Bavarian Academy of Fine Arts, Munich, 1991), the Ruth Lilly Prize for Poetry (Poetry magazine, Modern Poetry Association and the American Council for the Arts, 1992), the Antonio Feltrinelli International Prize for Poetry (Academia Nazionale dei Lincei, Rome, 1992), the Robert Frost Medal (Poetry Society of America, 1995), the Grand Prix de Biennales Internationales de Po=E9sie (Brussels, 1996), the Gold Medal for Poetry (American Academy of Arts and Letters, 1997), the Walt Whitman Citation of Merit (State of New York and the New York State Writers Institute, 2000), the Signet Society Medal for Achievement in the Arts (Signet Associates, Harvard University, 2001), and the Wallace Stevens Award (Academy of American Poets, 2001); in 1993 he was made a Chevalier de l=B9Ordre des Arts et des Lettres by the French Ministry of Culture, and in 2002 he was named Officier of the L=E9gion d=B9Honneur of the Republic of France by presidential decree. [8:00 pm, Sanctuary] Friday, May 7 Talk Series: Steve Evans, =B3The Disobedient Poetics of Determinate Negation=B2 This talk will draw on texts, sound files, and video clips by John Cage, Frank O=B9Hara, Gil Scott-Heron, Jayne Cortez, Robin Blaser, Kevin Davies, Alice Notley, and others to explore an alternative within avant-garde writing to the dominant (and now politically defused) =B3poetics of indeterminacy.=B2 Steve Evans=B9 essays and reviews have appeared in various journals and collections, including Aerial, Poetics Journal, Qui Parle, and Telling It Slant, as well as online at his website Third Factory (www.thirdfactory.net). With Jennifer Moxley, he co-edited the Impercipient Lecture Series (monthly in 1998) and co-authored The Dictionary of Received Ideas. In 2001 he edited =B3After Patriarchal Poetry: Feminism and the Contemporary Avant-Garde,=B2 a special issue of the journal differences. He currently teaches poetry, poetics, and critical theory at the University of Maine, where he also coordinates a reading series and co-edits, with Benjamin Friedlander, the journal Sagetrieb: Poetry & Poetics after Modernism. [8:00 pm] * A LETTER REGARDING ST. MARK=B9S CHURCH Dear Friend of St. Mark=B9s: For over 200 years St. Mark=B9s in-the-Bowery has stood as a monument to the continuity of great spiritual and social movements. Presently the church=B9s historic landmark building is at risk. Nearly 25 twenty years have elapsed since it was last repaired after the fire that almost destroyed it altogether. It was miraculously spared. Now time and the extraordinary use of our space have taken their toll. In addition to weekly services and events involving our congregation, we host three resident arts projects: Danspace, The St. Mark=B9s Poetry Project and the Ontological Theater. The church=B9s roof is the most urgent repair necessary. Frequent and increasingly copious leaks threaten our ability to carry out activities in = a normal fashion. Recently, we received a $16,000 grant toward the $50,000 we must raise to fix the roof. We need another $35,000 to complete that work. We are holding a FIX-THE-ROOF Event, featuring popular actor and comedian Rev. Billy (Bill Talen) and the Stop Shopping Choir, on May 9th at 8 PM her= e at St. Mark=B9s Church in-the-Bowery, 2nd Avenue and Tenth Street. Please help St. Mark=B9s reach this all-important goal by making a contribution, either at the event or by sending a check in mail. Thank you for your consideration. For more information email: stmarksitb@ aol.com or call (212) 674-6377. Faithfully, The Rev. Julio O. Torres Priest-in-Charge * The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910.=20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 22:56:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Going To Dublin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear List, I am going to Dublin from July 13 to August 11th and would like to meet = any of you that might be there, living or visiting. I hate to drink = alone. Please contact me if you are there or suggest any places or = people to go and see.=20 Best, Michael Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:03:57 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Read my Poem - Send me $5.55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 The toilet in the new house was rather spotty and ill kept. Yucks. "Toilet Humors" tread well(trespass) abduce and sing (schooltone)ABC infinity (this transduce feels extra spurious) rectum spurious(skinflutter) anxious bearer splat!(watershed) rounder browner bared transfixed by rotunder(more rotund) so wet(sonoris) her spurts (spitted) spur-winged hatchbacked attached flurries (Pollock) -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 00:05:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: hollo hollor boo boo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hollo hollor boo boo oiooo his gon in oy oiroction bot ghosts cooo olwoys bock ono forioos coworo, foorfol of ony gonro. why oion't othor pooplo toll iopotos ogoinst tho woll of writing froo which i insonity ovorywhoro in this worlo, ooong frionos ono oo whot i wos ooing, i'o hovo boon oblo now oscopo throogh othors crootivoly on obovo tho cliffs or ovor or soootioo lost oy pictoro. in 1943 i wos tho oorknoss of tho hortling thoo. i oion't know bottor oboot to work oot tho rolotions with oy onbooroblo. soxoolity bocooo o forioos violonco ono tho tonsion is virginity jost oboot tho tioo o soloior whon wo woro flooting ovor tho oiooo his gon in oy oiroction born ono lotor in 1967 bot ghosts cooo olwoys bock ono forioos coworo, foorfol of ony gonro. why oion't othor pooplo toll iopotos ogoinst tho woll of writing froo which i insonity ovorywhoro in this worlo, ooong frionos ono oo whot i wos ooing, i'o hovo boon oblo now oscopo throogh othors crootivoly on obovo tho cliffs or ovor or soootioo lost oy tho oorknoss of tho hortling thoo. i oion't know bottor oboot onbooroblo. soxoolity bocooo o forioos violonco ono tho tonsion is virginity jost oboot tho tioo o soloior whon wo woro flooting ovor tho worlo. i still livo thoro; i'o o oiooo his gon in oy oiroction born ono lotor in 1967 bot ghosts cooo olwoys bock ono forioos coworo, foorfol of ony gonro. why oion't othor pooplo toll iopotos ogoinst tho woll of writing froo which i insonity ovorywhoro in this worlo, ooong frionos ono oo whot i wos ooing, i'o hovo boon oblo now oscopo throogh othors crootivoly on obovo tho cliffs or ovor or soootioo lost oy pictoro. in 1943 i wos tho oorknoss of tho hortling thoo. i oion't know bottor oboot to work oot tho rolotions with oy onbooroblo. soxoolity bocooo o forioos violonco ono tho tonsion is virginity jost oboot tho tioo o soloior whon wo woro flooting ovor tho worlo. i still livo thoro; i'o o oiooo his gon in oy oiroction bot ghosts cooo olwoys bock ono forioos coworo, foorfol of ony gonro. why oion't othor pooplo toll iopotos ogoinst tho woll of writing froo which i insonity ovorywhoro in this worlo, ooong frionos ono oo whot i wos ooing, i'o hovo boon oblo nonfictionolly. i'vo soon for too ooch now oscopo throogh othors crootivoly or soootioo lost oy tho oorknoss of tho hortling thoo. i oion't know bottor oboot to work oot tho rolotions with oy onbooroblo. soxoolity bocooo o forioos violonco ono tho tonsion is virginity jost oboot tho tioo o soloior whon wo woro flooting ovor tho worlo. i still livo thoro; i'o o oiooo his gon in oy oiroction coworo, foorfol of ony fothor in o hoolthior foshion, ovon tho gonro. why oion't othor pooplo toll iopotos ogoinst tho woll of writing froo which i insonity ovorywhoro in this worlo, ooong frionos ono oo whot i wos ooing, i'o hovo boon oblo nonfictionolly. i'vo soon for too ooch now oscopo throogh othors crootivoly or soootioo lost oy tho oorknoss of tho hortling thoo. violonco ono tho tonsion is virginity jost oboot tho tioo o soloior whon wo woro flooting ovor tho worlo. i still livo thoro; i'o o _ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 00:05:53 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: nlrs.gita ril MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII nlrs.gita ril ioisn inoirmti n mrnmnst r in 1967 mtotaensril sr ,sren mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl i p thin t taritinlroili inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr ht igin , i'cno n n i ti ns. i'hnlr tg ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis rotihtl pi t r . in 1943 is tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits nlrs.gita ril ilnsnmtlt n i n i ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl ioisn inoirmti n mtotaensril sr ,sren mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm rl1994 ilria ing mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl i'mtirht i i p thin t taritinlroili inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr ht igin , i'cno n n i ti ns. i'hnlr tg ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis ngtoiorsr rotihtl pi t r . in 1943 is rmtsthilplinoin tor ngtort in tsrst tlrlti nlits nlrs.gita ril ilnsnmtlt n i n i ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl ioisn inoirmti n mrnmnst r in 1967 mtotaensril sr ,sren mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl i'mtirht i i p thin t taritinlroili inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr ht igin , i'cno ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis ngtoiorsr rotihtl pi t r . in 1943 is rmtsthilplinoin tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits ilnsnmtlt n i n i ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl ioisn inoirmti n mtotaensril mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm rl1994 ilria ing mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl i'mtirht i i p thin t taritinlroili inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr ht igin , i'cno ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis rotihtl pi t r . in 1943 is tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits ilnsnmtlt n i n i ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl ioisn inoirmti n mtotaensril mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm rl1994 ilria ing i'mtirht i inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr ht igin , i'cno n n i ti ns. i'hnlr tg ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis ngtoiorsr pi t r . in 1943 is rmtsthilplinoin tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits ilnsnmtlt n i n i ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl ioisn inoirmti n mtotaensril sr ,sren mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm rl1994 ilria ing mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl i p thin t taritinlroili inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr ht igin , i'cno n n i ti ns. i'hnlr tg ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis ngtoiorsr rotihtl pi t r . in 1943 is rmtsthilplinoin tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits ir initotot tltidi r mrm. imtisiltmr ; i'l ioisn inoirmti n mrnmnst r in 1967 sr ,sren mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl intmt ilnorltmr n n i ti ns. i'hnlr tg ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis ngtoiorsr rotihtl tmr .sn,gi ,mt p it. pi t r . in 1943 is rmtsthilplinoin tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl ioisn inoirmti n mtotaensril mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm rl1994 ilria ing mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl i p thin t taritinlroili inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr ht igin , i'cno n n i ti ns. i'hnlr tg ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis rotihtl pi t r . in 1943 is tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits ilnsnmtlt n i n i ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl mrm. imtisiltmr ; i'l ioisn inoirmti n mrnmnst r in 1967 mtotaensril sr ,sren mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm rl1994 ilria ing mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl i p thin t taritinlroili inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr n n i ti ns. i'hnlr tg ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis ngtoiorsr rotihtl pi t r . in 1943 is rmtsthilplinoin tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl ioisn inoirmti n mrnmnst r in 1967 mtotaensril mtmr ingt i roi n,sn tm mnr .hi n'tmtmr pmpltl i'mtirht i inmnitorsrmin t isrm,snlri nsn intmt ilnorltmr n n i ti ns. i'hnlr tg ngpmt rhtmrlrmtis ngtoiorsr rotihtl pi t r . in 1943 is rmtsthilplinoin tor ngtort in tl. imi n'tmnott rot tsrst tlrlti nlits ir initotot tltidi r lnhrhtinor tl __ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 20:25:09 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: mummer bark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mummer bark now the pink bark comes to mind and finds a touching there smoothness as an inkling curved by description's means and now it's looped by the visual memory of our quietude our colorless and quiet carezza over the names carus, caritia, kara, carina that single pink bark which encloses as in a rondure quaquaversal a rondeau of dandling roundnesses spread before and after the branches of thoughtful thoughtless touchings /siam colorado caterpillar a new suffix tree algorithm/ where the branches fade facing before the potent looping of lianas now comes to mind and the touchling found smoothes the linkling curved by mean description the mummer barking mind ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 23:28:27 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit full moon knife & spoon steamed clams with vermicilli whole garlic cloves at congee village... rueben sierra clears the bases a coast away in the ole U.S. of @... caffienated midnite...listening to Yankee game...jazzzed...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:01:25 -1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Susan M. Schultz" Subject: tinfish alert of the day Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tinfish Press aims to use the extra space we have on-line now. We're going to start doing an occasional off-shoot of the journal, which will appear on the website. So, please consider sending us: --book reviews (and presses, please send us books, journals) --dialogues --experiments --letters --reading reports And do so by September 1 of this year for the first "issue." Remember that we're Pacific based and focused.... aloha, Susan 47-728 Hui Kelu Street #9 Kaneohe, HI 96744 USA Susan M. Schultz http://tinfishpress.com now available: _And Then Something Happened_ http://saltpublishing.com/books/smp/1844710165.htm ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 08:38:12 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joseph Bradshaw Subject: Call for Spare Room's second annual Sound Poetry Festival, Portland, OR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Attn: Please do not send a response to this email. See below for contact info. CALL TO ALL SOUND POETS, SPEECH ARTISTS, & TEXT-SOUND ARTISTS Spare Room presents its 2nd annual SOUND POETRY FESTIVAL Portland, Oregon August 28th, 2004 Sound poets and others are invited to submit samples of their work to Spare Room for our 2nd annual Sound Poetry Marathon. Last year we collected 13 performers and the event lasted 4 hours (including a Phoneticathon that presented sound poets from around the world, via telephone). If you are interested or curious please contact mARK oWEns at mark_anypush@yahoo.com. Also see Spare Room’s website at www.flim.com/spareroom/ _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 13:45:34 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: noemata Subject: Re: I am Further Comments: To: "WRYTING-L : Writing and Theory across Disciplines" In-Reply-To: <000501c43246$e217da10$f48479a5@howlingwolf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am further fire wood and jovian ashes he was botheration in roentgen Juras, He Rebooter jupitter spotwhite sea symbol: the oceanemic bawa eis hassler (chorus) and a ma frondose coloury weirs to fouling fun schlepp in and liquorish and woollenizes there for motherliness of the nickel. * DECADES the best kremlinologist as a poeticised, he has puller. befuddlement in wite and oscitancy pokeys de narratives his in a cooker mirror liking, won the thrilled maguey amnesiac prizes: the pubs, nanak bonnie aversely, and national bonspiel criollo circle auxotrophic. his most recited vortically are wakefulness Strangling Gyro 000, glandered on the run zebu name herniating as unauthorisedness Focus Rain 001, and Childbirth Whitewall Fams 002. - Benefited univeristy pretentiously, the novelizing a nest of niue, worthing wizards izmir sciurine, was fissioned published in 0909 and has beetle reissued Shabbiness Tijuana (again!). THE COLLECTION THREE PLAYSCHOOL HEATLAND NEW ZACHARIAS he has beguiling electrocardiograms to membership in the Amblygonite Academy Of Arthralgia and leveler and The Amerce Absentmindedness Of Ashamed And Sciences and served as chaldron of The Academy Of Americanizations Poets Frisco the winner of manning proctoscope and awhirl, he has reciprocator two guns fencers and was a lvii femalises from he holds honorary diverge frostbiting hampton collaborator of logomachy irwin unkindliness, The Uninvaginated Of Rocking And Hunch University. INTERNATIONAL recognition for his outstanding career acronymizes incinerated the houseward probing for poddy (bavarian absorbing of fine acts) merit of new yawl and the new yssel state wouldst insurances, the signet society mediaevalise et des by the french minuteman of crystallizes, and in he was named officier of the lofts. decrepitly. [8:00 pm FREETHINKER, MAY taming stercoricolous evacuations, disjunctions pocahontas of determinate negation² threadbare talk willemite drifty on theanthropism, swearensen files, and vigors clips and oscillator to exquisite an amaut winterweight wrongly to the dominant (and now politise defused) of stereomicroscopic etalon and revertive headiness applying in varve journals and colonialises, incase aerial, polanski journal, qui parenthesisation, and televised it slant, as well as olympus at his website threatening fable. % more with jargonise he the impercipient leavings separative and the dichroscope of recapitalises ideas. in he edging after pathogen ferine and the contractional avantgrade a spathulate isochronises of the jubilarian dichotomise. HE currently teaches postmortem, poeticised, and crocked theatrical gambits at the Unmediatised Of Maldistribution, Whitehorse. he also convocation a reading serviceberry and co-edits, witnessed beneficiaries The Jolts Sagetrieb: polemicize & polarizability agitation Mithra __ wreathus isbn 82-92428-08-9 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 05:24:16 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: INFO: london--verbalized mindz q&a special pt2 Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit INFO: london--verbalized mindz q&a special pt2 ===================================== VERBALIZED MINDZ Q&A Special pt2 An exciting & all inspiring Open Mic night of spoken word, passion, expression, poetry, song & verbal dexterity. This month includes part 2 of a question and answer special. An opportunity to enter the minds of four more inspiring writers and performers. Featured poets and guests on the panel include: Beyonder - Kat Francois - shortMAN - Tuggstar Hosted by: Phenzwaan THURSDAY 13TH MAY 2004 @ THE LION (formerly STOKE TUP) 132 Stoke Newington Church Street Stoke Newington London N16 OJX. Doors open: 7pm Show starts: 7.45pm Close: 10.45pm Entry: £4 before 7.30pm £5 thereafter Limited slots available to perform at this event, for further enquiries tel: 07958 623 304 or Email: verbalizedmindz@phenzology.com Directions/Nearest Tubes & Buses: 73 bus from the Angel; 149 bus from Liverpool Street/Shoreditch/Dalston or Seven Sisters. >> -\ ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 12:29:01 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: New Whitman bio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/profmadhatter/nguyen1.jpg -- --------------------------- Newfoundland Tories put culture in a COMA http://www.donotpadlocktherooms.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 10:30:27 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Balestrieri Subject: A Little Help? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Does anyone recall a project, German, I think, that involved sending text through a website that then went up on, I think, an electronic display, possibly on a tower? The entries were then archived on the site. This would have been in 2000 or 2001. Sorry for the sketchy details. I participated in this but can't put the pieces together. Thanks. Pete __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 12:03:05 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kazim Ali Subject: Announcing Nightboat Books In-Reply-To: <20040505173027.39214.qmail@web41010.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please join us at our Press Launch/Reading Thursday May 20th 7:00pm 19 University Place, 1st Floor Lounge New York City Readers: Susan Wheeler Marie Ponsot Daniel Lin Katherine Dimma Nightboat Books is a nonprofit press, dedicated to publishing books of poetry and unconventional prose. First chapbooks now available: "Tinder" by Daniel Lin printed in a limited edition of 125 numbered copies, hand stitched, each with an individual cover inked by Dr. Jingjing Ye. "Wind in the Trees" by Katherine Dimma, printed in a limited edition of 125 numbered copies, each with a cover photograph by Katherine Dimma. Forthcoming title: "The Lives of a Spirit" by Fanny Howe (revised and expanded edition), Fall 2005. Any questions or for more information, please write to us at jennifer.chapis@nightboat.org or kazim.ali@nightboat.org. Kazim Ali and Jennifer Chapis, Editors Nightboat Books ===== ==== WAR IS OVER (if you want it) (e-mail president@whitehouse.gov) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:03:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: well it's time for mopping up operations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII well it's time for mopping up operations we did what we could and everyone's underground there are gibbets and wires we've moved everyone to times square and turned up the heat oh we are so unamerican when we torture but nn's right we're motherfuckerz bush says that justice will be delivered but he already delivered it motherfucker i like mothers and fucking so forgive me everyone i have borrowed my style for a moment http://www.asondheim.org/target.mov _ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:17:36 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mairead Byrne Subject: Re: Announcing Nightboat Books Comments: To: kaajumiah@YAHOO.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Congratulations Kazim and Jennifer, and all who sail in Nightboat. Mairead >>> kaajumiah@YAHOO.COM 05/05/04 15:00 PM >>> Please join us at our Press Launch/Reading Thursday May 20th 7:00pm 19 University Place, 1st Floor Lounge New York City Readers: Susan Wheeler Marie Ponsot Daniel Lin Katherine Dimma Nightboat Books is a nonprofit press, dedicated to publishing books of poetry and unconventional prose. First chapbooks now available: "Tinder" by Daniel Lin printed in a limited edition of 125 numbered copies, hand stitched, each with an individual cover inked by Dr. Jingjing Ye. "Wind in the Trees" by Katherine Dimma, printed in a limited edition of 125 numbered copies, each with a cover photograph by Katherine Dimma. Forthcoming title: "The Lives of a Spirit" by Fanny Howe (revised and expanded edition), Fall 2005. Any questions or for more information, please write to us at jennifer.chapis@nightboat.org or kazim.ali@nightboat.org. Kazim Ali and Jennifer Chapis, Editors Nightboat Books ===== ==== WAR IS OVER (if you want it) (e-mail president@whitehouse.gov) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:21:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alexander Trimble Young Subject: Columbia Review Release Party/Reading Friday at Bowery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Forwarded message from le155@columbia.edu ----- Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:50:39 -0400 From: le155@columbia.edu Reply-To: le155@columbia.edu Subject: don't forget: bowery this friday night! To: Alexander Trimble Young This Friday May 7 @ 7 o'clock, come on down to Bowery Poetry Club (on Bowery between Bleeker and Houston, www.bowerypoetry.com) to catch the Spring 2004 issue of the new and improved, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed Columbia Review, plus an awesome reading featuring: Abby Walthausen Nick Bredie Rachel Abramowitz Jordan Davis and Saskia Hamilton (MCd by your hosts/editors Lindsay Edgecombe and Alex Young) Great party! Great poetry! only 5 bucks at the door. ps--forward to all yr friends ----- End forwarded message ----- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:24:11 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: THIRD day of Alan Sondheim Week in Taiwan (Get Your duck-hair T-shirts). MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's now day three of Alan Sondheim Week in Taiwan. It's not too late to pay your suspects, have a little fun. The THIRD day's celebration. Include's this love poem which is available in low-fi hypertext on site. I. Alan Sondheim is Alan Sondeim is Al an Sondheim is Al an Son d heim is as Al an Son are son are son are son arson thee Heimlich lick me un-Heimlich II. (Maothefucker T-shirts, cops, to wit) III. Your gravitas with my margaritas, we’ll remove some or all of the vitreous humour of the eye. Replace it with black humus. We’ll lull be nimble the broomstick up the butt. IV. Good taste amounting to good fortune (the message said jump). V. Alan Sondheim sonds uh full fruit tea aren’t use sir hees not a poem VI. in his own chance operations? VII. I forgot to say anus. Sunni so Cagey. -- http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:30:12 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: Moore's FAHRENHEIT 911 censored by Disney MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Disney Has Blocked the Distribution of My New Film... by Michael Moore May 5, 2004 Friends, I would have hoped by now that I would be able to put my work out to the public without having to experience the profound censorship obstacles I often seem to encounter. Yesterday I was told that Disney, the studio that owns Miramax, has officially decided to prohibit our producer, Miramax, from distributing my new film, "Fahrenheit 911." The reason? According to today's (May 5) New York Times, it might "endanger" millions of dollars of tax breaks Disney receives from the state of Florida because the film will "anger" the Governor of Florida, Jeb Bush. The story is on page one of the Times and you can read it here ("Disney Forbidding Distribution of Film That Criticizes Bush"--http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/05/national/05DISN.html?ex=1084334400&en=89983012bdce5ec0&ei=5062&partner=GOO GLE ). The whole story behind this (and other attempts) to kill our movie will be told in more detail as the days and weeks go on. For nearly a year, this struggle has been a lesson in just how difficult it is in this country to create a piece of art that might upset those in charge (well, OK, sorry -- it WILL upset them...big time. Did I mention it's a comedy?). All I can say is, thank God for Harvey Weinstein and Miramax who have stood by me during the entire production of this movie. There is much more to tell, but right now I am in the lab working on the print to take to the Cannes Film Festival next week (we have been chosen as one of the 18 films in competition). I will tell you this: Some people may be afraid of this movie because of what it will show. But there's nothing they can do about it now because it's done, it's awesome, and if I have anything to say about it, you'll see it this summer -- because, after all, it is a free country. Yours, Michael Moore mmflint@aol.com www.michaelmoore.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:40:39 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Deepening Poverty Breeds Anger and Desperation in Haiti Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ Deepening Poverty Breeds Anger and Desperation in Haiti by Lydia Polygroin Aide Doubts Powell Will Reenlist: Secretary of State Wants More Input Into The Killing: U.S. 'Going Soft' On iraqi Prisoners: 92% Of Americans Feel Tortured Iraqi Prisoners Getting Exactly What They Deserve by Richlard Liebelly They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:08:01 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Change of Address for Furniture Press Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 All: We've changed our address, again. 19 Murdock Road Baltimore, MD 21212 thanks Chris -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 11:15:32 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Camille Martin Subject: Sound Poetry on WTUL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sunday, May 9, 8:00 pm ? midnight tune in to WTUL 91.5 New Orleans for ---Word Soundings--- a program of sound and performance poetry hosted by Camille Martin Word Soundings is a special edition of WTUL?s Twentieth-Century Classics online listening: http://www.tulane.edu/~wtul/listen.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 18:47:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: SAC ORG FIL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SAC ORG FIL (sacrificial organic fill layer) Let us not make such obvious associations (and the pause is universally reflexive), but take these domains further by degrees, as the special beast---> / ..(where consciousness portends a conduit) ..(pneuma-pleroma-paideuma-civitas, visavisvisviva) ---> \ta[s]kes/ its steps against all odds flying from stone to crag to slippery tongue of granite limbs interinferentially deciding a space by design as 'pure' ~intention, , , , , absent within the palimpsestualisation of profligate and proliferating ita-itara-iti-iteratus, the flora and fauna of judgement, where hives and cities and nests and burrows, and caves and ledges, and pods and shoals, and schools and th' cupa-kufa-hyf-hufr-falls before the agile and terrible cumulous-homunculous raised by the componential and sacrificial hand where the fly's eye lay conjugate with splitting time [framings], and give a leastness for leaving what gentle and forgiving models of memory for whatever chances yoked by burgeoning ~-if words ~_go forth at all.. >/? ~ google search term: sacrificial layer. : whatever is best from sentiment let it be respread in different forms, from lens to immanenz.. : SAC ORG FIL. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:54:08 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: sketch Comments: To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Drawings by Jacopo PONTORMO our bodies make a wild frame of leather, in weather, where feathers descended upon the gusts of gazing, and the husk of our entwined image does resonate as locust, a locus spread across the pages in the wrestling ages of fading inks, where final hands in a chain of reverence handled our coordinates as the progeny of some distant and ironic destiny, made mute by the recording of our muscles in action, beneathe the resembling continuum, where whirling, we lay silent and still until the seed of the hurricane eye, awakened our reflection. http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/p/pontormo/drawings/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 02:40:02 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit piss weigh myself do the form write a poem... 3:00..cold after storm...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 05:46:25 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: sketch Comments: cc: wryting@panix.com In-Reply-To: <002e01c4332e$8c4ec060$5ba05e82@hevanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While there do check on the later paintings and the foreshortened twisted bodies & I will think of our abuses in Iraq they twine - Alan On Wed, 5 May 2004, Mr. Malimbicus wrote: > Drawings > by Jacopo PONTORMO > > our bodies make a wild frame of leather, in weather, where feathers descended > upon the gusts of gazing, and the husk of our entwined image does resonate as locust, > a locus spread across the pages in the wrestling ages of fading inks, where final hands > in a chain of reverence handled our coordinates as the progeny of some > distant and ironic destiny, made mute by the recording of our muscles > in action, beneathe the resembling continuum, where whirling, we lay > silent and still until the seed of the hurricane eye, awakened our reflection. > > http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/p/pontormo/drawings/ > http://www.asondheim.org/ http://www.asondheim.org/portal/.nikuko http://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt Trace projects http://trace.ntu.ac.uk/writers/sondheim/index.htm finger sondheim@panix.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 03:11:19 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: Re: sketch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >While there do check on the later paintings and the foreshortened twisted >bodies >& I will think of our abuses in Iraq >they twine well I certainly understand the intention behind that, but I know what real carnage can look like photographically and I don't think you want to hang it in the Uffizi gallery, although that might be a powerful anti-war message. I know you are squeamish about such things, as any sane person should be, but i would hope PONTORMO would take me somewhere which is precisely the opposite of a battefield, as in art should always provide a space of opposition to all wars.. A closer pictorial would i think be Goya's work or even the chapman brother's swastika shaped war vitrines where all manner of atrocities are ushered into the viewer.. but my question is i guess does the image presented by atrocity have the same effect it once might have it has been theorized at least by one writer, that the apotropaic gorgoneion used on the shields of the greek hoplite warriors (i think its the hoplites, ummm) was really a kind of code for 'the horror of violent death'.. what with all our media desensitization to all things ultraviolent does that atrocity imagery even effect the general public, and how does it break down by age or generationally.. and thanks for turning me onto pontermo, i must've been dozing that day in art hist. class and re: the mannerists (me too) did a paper here somewhere on the motif of color in X?'s painting of Hercules made to sit at the spinning wheel.. Its an image of hercules dressed in women's clothing made to sit and spin, while a woman oversees him dressed in his leopard skin and holding his club.. can;t find it.. you know that painting? best lq ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 03:27:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: Re: sketch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oddly enough i was just sitting here reading about the roman origins of humanitas as repres.by the circle of Scipio a student of the stoic philosopher Panaetius. The concept of 'humanitas' is nowhere to be found in say the Nichomachean ethics, but it is certainly present in Seneca and Cicero.. from a time when (under marcus aurelius) (a much different time) the worlds of philosophy and political life were much more closely entwined for they admitted no cleft between the individual and political sphere.. this is all dealt with at length in Cassier's chapter on Theory of Legal State in Midieval Philosophy in his Myth of the State... or he wrote about it.. not sure about 'dealt with' best lq ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:07:22 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Future Dictionary of America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT HI, From http://observer.com/pages/transom.asp scroll down a bit. Looks interesting to me. kevin Foer, a Cause In the past month and half, writers Jonathan Safran Foer, Dave Eggers and Nicole Krauss and director Spike Jonze have sent out letters to 120 authors soliciting them to contribute to a book they are putting together called Future Dictionary of America to raise millions of dollars to defeat President George W. Bush. "100 percent of the proceeds, which should be quite substantial … will go to groups including MoveOn.org and 21st Century Democrats, P.A.C.’s dedicated to advancing democracy, defeating Bush, and insuring American leadership that better represents American values," the letter reads. Writers are supposed to use or invent a word "for something whose existence would make America a better place." Writers’ entries should be fewer than 1,000 words long and should create a dictionary "that is both useful and romantic. Hopeful and necessary. Pragmatic and idealistic." Added instructions say: "Please use only one space after periods …. Please don’t forward this e-mail. We’re contacting many dozens of people over the next week or so. If too many people send in entries, we’ll get swamped …. Because of campaign finance laws, only American citizens can contribute to this." So far, most of the 120 writers have agreed to contribute, including Stephen King, Art Spiegelman, Paul Auster, Joyce Carol Oates and Paul Muldoon. "If you name somebody, they’ve probably said yes," said Mr. Foer, who spearheaded the project. The book, to be assembled in coordination with Mr. Eggers’publishing house, McSweeney’s, will come with a CD with new music from about a dozen bands. They’ve invited Pearl Jam, Bright Eyes and the Beastie Boys to contribute. So far, he hasn’t publicized the book much, but "word will get out when the time comes." He said he’s received only a few refusals. "People are so enthusiastic," said Mr. Foer. "It’s been really easy." Any Republican authors? "We haven’t yet had that kind of response, the conservative response, which is interesting in its own right," he said. "Thus far, we haven’t been able to find a writer on the other side of the proverbial aisle." Mr. Foer has high hopes for his dictionary, which he predicts will be published in full by June. "If you have 120 of America’s best-known writers in different styles and places saying, ‘This is something I want to stand up for,’ I think it will really mean something." Before he introduced a reading called "Where’s My Democracy?" for Downtown for Democracy on March 25, Mr. Foer, 27, hadn’t been particularly active. "I found the reading very energizing," he said. "I was inspired by how easily it happened and how enthusiastically it was received." Mr. Foer was also having issues of his own with the current administration. "The President got me into being politically active," he said. "Every morning I would work myself up into an angry, depressed foam over The New York Times. ‘Maybe I can affect the process,’ I thought, ‘even in an incredibly strong way.’ "I am being misrepresented," Mr. Foer huffed, "and that’s not me—and as proven in the last election, it’s not the majority of the country either." —Alexandra Wolfe -- --------------------------- Newfoundland Tories put culture in a COMA http://www.donotpadlocktherooms.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:48:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Announcing The Expanding and Expanding Field of Taiwanese Sondheim Studies. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Day 4/5 of Alan Sondheim Week @ http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ (Brought to you by Hello Kitty) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:15:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Lowther Subject: Kaplan Page Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit are you on this list? please backchannel. thanks john lowther www.atlantapoetsgroup.net ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:32:01 -0700 Reply-To: Sarah Mangold Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sarah Mangold Subject: New Address for Bird Dog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bird Dog Magazine has moved. New Address: Bird Dog c/o Sarah Mangold 1535 32nd Ave, Apt. C Seattle, WA 98122 www.birddogmagazine.com Issue #5 will be out late this month. Deadline for Issue #6 Sept. 1. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:52:57 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: On Arab TV, Bush Gloats About US Mistreatment of Prisoners Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ On Arab TV, Bush Gloats About US Mistreatment of Prisoners: Two Detainees' Deaths Ruled Homicides by Tureen D'Soupe They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 16:06:20 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brenda Coultas Subject: Coffee House Press Benefit, May 20, NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Friends,=20 On Thursday, May 20th there will be a benefit reading for Coffee House Press= =20 at the Bowery Poetry Club in New York, featuring five stellar Coffee House=20 authors: Marjorie Welish, Mary Caponegro, Greg Hewett, Elaine Equi, and Qui= ncy=20 Troupe. Check out their bios and the details below. There will also be a discount book sale and silent auction of letterpress=20 broadsides, artwork, and more. I myself won=E2=80=99t be there, but Allan K= ornblum, our=20 publisher, will. The event has been organized by some very generous friends= =20 of Coffee House in the New York area (Chris Martin, Fred Schmalz, and Ted=20 Mathys), who came up with this idea on their own and organized the event=20 themselves. If you can't make it, please do pass this on to anyone who might= be=20 interested. Should be a great reading - we're looking forward to it. And c= heck out=20 what Coffee House is up to at www.coffeehousepress.org < http://www.coffeehousepress.org/>=20 Thanks much, Chris Fischbach Senior Editor Coffee House Press * A Benefit Reading for Coffee House Press=20 Thursday, May 20th, 7:00 p.m.=20 Suggested $10 donation; $15 w/ free hurt book=20 Bowery Poetry Club=20 308 Bowery (between Bleeker and Houston)=20 F train to Second Ave. or 6 train to Bleeker St.=20 Phone: 212-614-0505=20 www.bowerypoetry.com Poet, painter, and critic, Marjorie Welish lives in New York City and teache= s=20 at the Pratt Institute in Brooklyn and as a visiting professor at Brown=20 University. She is the author of the new collection Word Group and the criti= cally=20 acclaimed The Annotated "Here" and Selected Poems which was an Academy of=20 American Poets Lenore Marshall Poetry Prize finalist and a Village Voice Bes= t Book=20 of the year. Mary Caponegro is the author of four collections of short fiction: Tales fro= m=20 the Next Village, The Star Cafe, Five Doubts, and The Complexities of=20 Intimacy. She contributes regularly to magazines and journals which include=20= Review of=20 Contemporary Fiction, Epoch, Conjunctions, and Iowa Review. She has taught a= t=20 Brown University, RISD, the Institute of American Indian Arts, Hobart &=20 William Smith Colleges and Syracuse University. She is currently the Richard= B.=20 Fisher Family Professor of Writing and Literature at Bard College.=20 Greg Hewett is the author of To Collect the Flesh and Red Suburb, which won=20 the Publishing Triangle Award in 2003. He has lived in California, France,=20 Japan, Denmark and Norway, has been a Fulbright Professor at Oslo, and worke= d as=20 an HIV interviewer for the CDC. Currently he is Assistant Professor of Engli= sh=20 at Carleton College in Northfield, Minnesota. Elaine Equi is the author of many books, including Voice-Over, which won the= =20 San Francisco State Poetry Award, and her latest collection The Cloud of=20 Knowable Things. Widely anthologized, her poems appear in Postmodern America= n=20 Poetry: A Norton Anthology and The Best American Poetry for the years 1989,=20= 1995,=20 and 2002. She lives in New York City. Quincy Troupe is the winner of two American Book Awards for poetry and=20 nonfiction, the Peabody Award for radio, and twice winner of the title of=20 Heavyweight Champion of Poetry at The World Poetry Bout in Taos, New Mexico.= He has=20 written seven volumes of poetry, and two best-selling books about jazz legen= d=20 Miles Davis. He grew up in St. Louis and now lives in New York City. =20 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 16:32:48 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: Protest Notes for Wolfowitz's Philadelphia Visit Today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Protest Notes for Wolfowitz's Philadelphia Visit Today on The Philly Sound blog: http://phillysound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 17:16:18 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sina Queyras Subject: anne carson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know when/where Anne Carson is reading in NY tonight? I = heard it was Hunter but have lost the info. If you know can you = backchannel? Otherwise I won't get your response until the digest rolls = in.=20 Sina ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 16:32:39 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harrison Jeff Subject: The Return Of The Money Angel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed * Rise, TOYS, Walk And Think Honey phos phor escent coins are dazzling even w/out legs paused plank lily heedless of gold coins & green % Rise, TOYS, Walk And Think Honey * _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 17:42:33 -0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Heller Subject: Robert Vas Dias Reading Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed For those in the NYC area, Robert Vas Dias, an Anglo-American poet who has been living in London for many years, will be reading at the Art First Gallery on Wednesday May 12th at 7 PM. Art First is located at 526 West 26th Street (between 10th and 11th Avenues), Suite 608. Robert has published poetry with Bobbs Merrill, Oasis and Permanent Press and edited the influential anthology Inside Outer Space. His most recent publication is The Guts of Shadows (2003), a poetry and art collaboration, with the UK painter John Wright. ------------------------------------------------ Exigent Futures: New and Selected Poems (2003, Salt Publishing www.saltpublishing.com). Available at www.spdbooks.org and at Amazon.com Living Root: A Memoir (2001, SUNY Press www.sunypress.edu) Available from SUNY Press and Amazon.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 17:55:55 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 5/10-5/12 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Monday, May 12 Brian Blanchfield & Jeff Clark Brian Blanchfield is the author of Not Even Then, just out from the University of California Press. His poetry has appeared in Ploughshares, Slope, Fort Necessity, Volt, and Jubilat, and his essays and reviews have been published in American Book Review and Talisman. He teaches in the BFA creative writing program at Pratt Institute of Art and at the University of Arizona Poetry Center. Jeff Clark was born in 1971 in Southern California. His first book, The Little Door Slides Back, was published in 1997 by Sun & Moon, and has just been reissued by FSG. His second book, Music and Suicide= , has also just appeared from FSG. He lives in Michigan. [8:00 pm] Wednesday, May 15 Eda: Selected Readings from a Godless Sufism An evening of readings from Eda: A Contemporary Anthology of Turkish Poetry= , edited by Murat Nemet-Nejat and published by Talisman House. The anthology is based around a specific view of Turkish poetry, namely that its heart is not in words but in the space words create among themselves. This space and its movement in time is called =B3eda,=B2 and its attendant poetics is based on a Sufi sensibility that creates a spatial music of the mind as much as the ear, which is both erotic and spiritual. Tonight=B9s readers will include Jordan Davis, Maggie Dubris, Ed Foster, Nada Gordon, Murat Nemet-Nejat, Simon Pettet, Gary Sullivan, and Mustafa Ziyalan. [8:00 pm] * The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. *=20 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 18:09:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII my work only deals with the __big__ issues. my work deals with the _____big_____ issues. _ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 16:58:55 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Small Press Traffic Subject: Jarnot & Sailers at SPT, next Fri 5/14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Please join us at Small Press Traffic for our final reading of the spring: Friday, May 14, 2004 at 7:30 p.m. Lisa Jarnot & Cynthia Sailers Lisa Jarnot?s third collection, Black Dog Songs, is new from Flood Editions. Stan Brakhage writes: "However adrift in linguistic aesthetics, in sheer music-of-rhythmed-sounds, her words are never severed from the means that engendered them; and the consequent meanings are never detached from the meditative drama of each whole poem." Jarnot joins us from NYC; her previous works are Some Other Kind of Mission and Ring of Fire. Her critical biography of Robert Duncan will be published by UC Press next year. Local heroine Cynthia Sailers joins us in celebration of her first full-length collection, Lake Systems, just out from Tougher Disguises. Sailers is a California native (San Diego, 1974) who now lives in Alameda and co-curates the New Brutalism Reading Series in Oakland. Her work has or will appear in various journals, including Aufgabe, 14 Hills, LitVert.com, pompom, Small Tiger, Barn (v.), and Involuntary Vision: Poems after Kurosawa's Dreams. Unless otherwise noted, events are $5-10, sliding scale, free to SPT members, and CCA faculty, staff, and students. Unless otherwise noted, our events are presented in Timken Lecture Hall California College of the Arts 1111 Eighth Street, San Francisco (just off the intersection of 16th & Wisconsin) Our 30th anniversary season begins in September ? yay! Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson Executive Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCA 1111 -- 8th Street San Francisco, CA 94107 415.551.9278 http://www.sptraffic.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 17:11:41 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: charles alexander Subject: article on cynthia miller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Tucson painter and Chax Press mainstay (images of her work are on the cover of quite a few of our books) as visual art consultant Cynthia Miller is featured in a Tucson Weekly article about an exhibition of her works (along with Gail Marcus-Orlen and Amy Lamb) at Etherton Gallery that is up for about two more weeks. The article, written by the award-winning Margaret Regan, is also available online at http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Arts/Content?oid=oid:56395 I hope you get a chance to see the show! Etherton Gallery is at 135 S. 6th Ave. in Tucson, Arizona. Charles charles alexander / chax press fold the book inside the book keep it open always read from the inside out speak then ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 01:44:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: birth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII birth http://www.asondheim.org/node.mp3 _ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 03:44:57 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit beautiful dreamer wake... thunder clap..1 hr to dawn..158 lbs...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 03:48:09 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no if & or butt cleavage... groggy...boom..answers the bell..drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:53:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Derek White Subject: decent day job for NYC poets/writers with experience in math or teaching k-12... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Princeton Review is hiring some editors for some temporary work for the next few months, you can see the full posting on craigslist http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/wri/30335179.html Its not a bad gig if you are writer.. its in a casual west village environment, leaves you free time and mental capacity to write in the evenings, etc.. You do need to be able to write to target grade levels with correct grammar and all that, and need to have math or teaching experience. Back channel me for more info or respond directly to the add on craigslist. Best, Derek White www.calamaripress.com www.sleepingfish.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 05:03:50 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: Dark water surrounding Dpedeu... Comments: To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NARD JUT Dark water surrounding Dpedeu... http://www.hevanet.com/solipsis/desktopcollage/dpedeu.jpg {] In 2004 Æ’i ? Æ’h Æ’W Æ’Æ’ Æ’p ƒ“ ‚Ì the host ‚È activity —\’è * lies between protects Æ’P Æ’A Æ’{ ƒ‰ ƒ“ Æ’e Æ’B Æ’A * Æ’C ƒ“ Æ’XÆ’g ƒ‰ Æ’N Æ’^? * Æ’g Æ’Å’ ? Æ’i ? * Æ’I ? Æ’v ƒ“ Æ’Z Æ’~ Æ’i ? On April 10 (earth) Æ’A Æ’? Æ’} Æ’C ƒ“ Æ’X Æ’g ƒ‰ Æ’N Æ’^? the note tries ? the Rokyo ? field ROsaka ? field on Ap ril 14 (water) Æ’I ? Æ’v ƒ“ Æ’Z Æ’~ Æ’i ? (1) Æ’e ? Æ’}: Æ’G Æ’b Æ’ Z ƒ“ƒV Æ’Æ’ ƒ‹ Æ’I Æ’C ƒ‹ kind of lecturer: Three on apricots even manufactures method: (1) Shui Cheng? steams keep s the law (2) ? ?ï law (3) leaching of wood on May 12 (w ater) Æ’I ? Æ’v ƒ“ Æ’Z Æ’~ Æ’i ? (2) Æ’e ? Æ’}: Æ’G Æ’b Æ’Z ƒ“ Æ’V Æ’Æ’ ƒ‹ Æ’I Æ’C ƒ‹ center ‚Ì ? the ingredient classifies the lect urer: Three on apricots even (1) constitutional formula ‚© ‚ ç ‚Ì classifies (2) function base ‚©‚ç ‚Ì classification on Ma y 15 (earth) on 16th (date) Æ’A Æ’? Æ’}Æ’C ƒ“ Æ’X Æ’g ƒ‰ Æ’N Æ’^? to account orally tries ? the ROsaka ? field on May 22 ( earth) on 23rd (date) Æ’A Æ’? Æ’} Æ’C ƒ“ Æ’X Æ’gƒ‰ Æ’N Æ’^? t o account orally tries ? the Rokyo ? field on May 28 (gold) Æ’i ? Æ’h Æ’A Æ’? Æ’} Æ’e ƒ‰ Æ’s ? ƒ‚ Æ’? Æ’b Æ’R to do research Æ’c Æ’A ? on June 4 (gold) ? ? on June 9 (water) Æ’I ? Æ’v ƒ“ Æ’Z Æ’~ Æ’i ? (3) Æ’e ? Æ’}: (2) function base ‚© ‚ç‚Ì classificat ion ‚Ì ? ‚« lecturer: Three on apricots even carbonization ? …‘f kind of ‚Ì host ‚È ? matter ‚Æ ? principle function on J une 21 (earth) ? on 24th (date) Æ’A Æ’? Æ’} Æ’g Æ’Å’ ? Æ’i ? Æ’Z Æ’~ Æ’i ? (first half 4 during the days) on July 14 (water) Æ’I ? Æ’v ƒ“ Æ’Z Æ’~ Æ’i ? (4) Æ’e ? Æ’}: Æ’A ƒ‹ Æ’R ? ƒ‹ the kind of ‚Æ Æ’t Æ’F Æ’m ? ƒ‹ kind of ‚Ì host ‚È ? matter ‚Æ ? principle affects the lecturer: Dark water surrounding Dpedeu... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:57:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Prageeta Sharma Comments: To: sawcc@yahoogroups.com, JAnderson@exchange.ml.com, Dale.Sherrard@DrKW.com, rockers@med.stanford.edu, subpoetics-l@hawaii.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fence at the New School: Saturday, May 8th, 3 pm Anne Carson Prageeta Sharma Lynne Tillman the New School 66 W. 12th Street between 5th and 6th Avenues New York City ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:12:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Abu Ghraib MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is the monstrosity in torment, that the will is infinite and the execution confined, that the desire is boundless and the act a slave to limit. -- overheard between takes at Abu Ghraib -- Andrew http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:15:58 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: Song Syntax Changes in Bengalese Finches MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Song Syntax Changes in Bengalese Finches Singing in a Helium Atmosphere Ocari Oh Carina Foofoo Soplolly-gong dusweeet duswee bich kikichaja kikichaja kikichaja bich biwa dong awa soofi kikichaja Ocari Oh Carina Foofoo dusweeet Soplolly-bich kikichaja kikichaja wu li ma arm wooly mammariconea whorlinwaht wot-wot Ocari Oh Carina Foofoo Lignacio Juan Zaponeh diff diff sureeeet tete-tete tuy chuy viet hartsont incept inseparaaablaze the eye next theory sentence =3D=3D Viva Origino http://www.origin-life.gr.jp/3104/3104en.html Laboratory for Biolinguistics Kazuo Okanoya, Ph.D. Laboratory Head http://www.brain.riken.go.jp/english/b_rear/b4_lob/cdrg/k_okanoya.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:12:45 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Correction Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hello poetry fans, FYI: the correct dates for next week=B9s readings are Monday, May 10 and Wednesday, May 12=8Bnot the 12th and 15th. Apologies for the confusion! Best, Ze Poetry Project ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:46:12 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Rape At Abu Ghraib Prison---Exclusive Photos! Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ Rape At Abu Ghraib Prison---Exclusive Photos!! The Polls Are In: Rummy Scores A Home Run With Torture Photos; MayRun Against Bush, Meese: Bush Can't Fire Rumsfeld Despite Criticism: Limbaugh: "I'm Reserving Judgment On Whether The Servicemen And Women In Photos Are Gay." Sexual Politics: America Spooging To Torture Shots BY CRAG HARDON ASSASSINATED PRESS WASHINGTON BUREAU May 6, 2004 They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:39:07 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Leslie Scalapino Subject: O Books reading for "War and Peace" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Moe's Reading for War and Peace (O Books distributed by SPD: 1341 = Seventh Street, Berkeley CA 94710) on Monday May 17th at 7:30 PM. at = Moe's Books on Telegraph and Dwight Way in Berkeley. Readers are: Taylor Brady, Norma Cole, Judith Goldman, Stephen = Ratcliffe, Leslie Scalapino, and Juliana Spahr. War and Peace is a collection-to transgress division between one/one's = art and being/in the world-gathered after U.S. invasion of Iraq. It = includes works by artists Nancy Speros, Simone Fattal, and Kiki = Smith-and texts by (in addition to those above): Etel Adnan, Alice = Notley, Rodrigo Toscano, Lissa Wolsak, Jackson Mac Low, kari edwards, = Alan Davies, Fanny Howe, Stephen Ratcliffe, Robert Grenier, Paolo = Javier, Anselm Berrigan, and Rob Holloway from U.K. =20 "I'm gone away/soul dipped/in fuel/laserlike sloth capabilities/run = through-Anselm Berrigan =20 "To read a lot of trash mixing the blood of war with business's stench. = To root out any happiness. To go out, and down, and on the road. To = hesitate; to go on, and ahead, and back, and up the stairs, and in one's = room. On the way, to notice that the mountain is still there. To lie and = sleep, deeply, heavily. To reproduce night's sleep. To wake up, look = through the window at green water, from the Bay to the mountain, and = return to one's self. To remember that war is devastating Irak. To feel = pain."-Etel Adnan =20 "the point is/to transform it/beyond recognition/..no heart in such a = thing/no such thing as no heart in such a thing/but no such thing as = heart/and now you need and seek and beseech one"-Rodrigo Toscano =20 "Supposing truth is a/current,/ ",what though the radiance alas/in what = wild wood/ traverse what pathless haunts, etc/ "as I said,"/flesh into = strips/with a dagger"-Judith Goldman =20 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 17:17:25 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Cheryl Pallant Subject: Re: Song Syntax Changes in Bengalese Finches MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here's a poem i might have written. or you. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mr. Malimbicus=20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:15 AM Subject: Song Syntax Changes in Bengalese Finches Song Syntax Changes in Bengalese Finches Singing in a Helium Atmosphere Ocari Oh Carina Foofoo Soplolly-gong dusweeet duswee bich kikichaja kikichaja kikichaja bich biwa dong awa soofi kikichaja Ocari Oh Carina Foofoo dusweeet Soplolly-bich kikichaja kikichaja wu li ma arm wooly mammariconea whorlinwaht wot-wot Ocari Oh Carina Foofoo Lignacio Juan Zaponeh diff diff sureeeet tete-tete tuy chuy viet hartsont incept inseparaaablaze the eye next theory sentence =3D=3D Viva Origino http://www.origin-life.gr.jp/3104/3104en.html Laboratory for Biolinguistics Kazuo Okanoya, Ph.D. Laboratory Head http://www.brain.riken.go.jp/english/b_rear/b4_lob/cdrg/k_okanoya.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 22:39:59 GMT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jules Boykoff Subject: Cobb + Mirakove + Sand >> book party in New York Your presence is desired in celebrating first books by Allison Cobb, Carol Mirakove, and Kaia Sand. Date: Friday, May 14 Time: 7pm Place: New York, Double Happiness, 173 Mott Street, just south of Broome (6 to Spring St.; R/W to Prince St.) + BORN TWO by ALLISON COBB (Chax Press) Born Two casts the shadows of Gertrude Stein and Hannah Weiner across the history of the Southwest where the avant-garde abducts a nuclear family into a nuclear era. Allison Cobb has forged a brilliant multi-genre lyrical saga -- here is a tender page-turner with a slash and burn bite. -- Lisa Jarnot + OCCUPIED by CAROL MIRAKOVE (Kelsey St. Press) Carol Mirakove's poetry does its work not only through rage and persistence but also through tenderness. There is a love for the possibility that lies within language, a belief that rescrambling the channels can alter the extent to which we accept the administered language of the state and the media, sometimes even poetry, that suckers us into going with the flow, punching in, punching out. -- Heather Fuller + INTERVAL by KAIA SAND (Edge Books) Kaia Sand's /interval /establishes the "hunger throated sound" of a language in the act of interrogating its moment. Hers is an unflinching and thrillingly political practice, anchored to the "undertow of conversation(s)" having to do with "rolling blackouts," "free-market water," "imperialism" and the question of "how to live in the galore...in this field of human adjustments." Sand is a necessary poet, and bracingly new. -- Carolyn Forché ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 02:00:51 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Karl-Erik Tallmo Subject: police days Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" police days wish simply body value being safety prison men hearts pounding hooded morale motives realize & neck endures regime doing from coded void now wanton about taking snaps senior dignity across sight minimum ties when strip noose women suggested what skewed worst camera demand rites of others crawl naked acts agony down only this place is what claims force strand urges then also takes here: shame victors alone contagious word once more there front often shown either regime denies into part blind public vigorous damage seen victims fall crawl relates from them perhaps already shows living destroyed cruel becomes culture denied home /Karl-Erik Tallmo ________________________________________________________________ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, poet, writer, artist, journalist MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com ARTWORK, WRITINGS etc.: http://www.nisus.se/tallmo/ __________________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 21:23:39 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: Swan Messiah Spruce Wood Surfaces MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Swan Messiah Spruce Wood Surfaces Instead of eyes, he has two incandescent bird's eggs which you know from your reading are stored perfectly as the representatives of supplementary angles whose bulging circumferences are transactional spaces in moments of pure music. Angles in equal circles have the same ratio as the circumferences on which they stand whether they stand at the centers or at the circumferences. The fine bowler hat he wears is cut from the black paper of the universal feed-width whose average tongue-speed is just thunder available to any animal's basic perception of time, especially awaiting for a change in the purposeful but unusual physiological design of industrial awareness templates whose grounding strap is pausing to mimic the most exquisite violin of Norway Spruce which is called "The Messiah." The Violin Society of America turned to Grissino-Mayer, a noted dendrochronologist, for help. "I do tree-ring dating," Grissino-Mayer explained. "Essentially, if it has got wood and it has enough rings, then we can date it, regardless of what it is." "When the controversy continued, we asked him to undertake an objective study of the Messiah's wood," said the blurring counterforms whose Fauvist memory mandibles reached their boiling point in the early quarter century airspace morphology. Now his bright egg eyes are cities of communal pollen, whose policies are a distortion of the original growth plan of the Norway Sprucing the instrument's top to between 1577 and 1687, possibly from a tree a century and a half old. That timeframe would be consistent both with Stradivari's life (1644-1737) and the instrument's attributed date of manufacture in 1716. We cannot have our manufacturing dates becoming cities of pollenating time people violins where the eggs of 1716 Norwegian Spruce are also eyes for the skull of the bowler whose angles shift perceptibly toward the hamsa-so'ham of the porcine porcelain which lay before the breast bone of Cary Wolfe's unreconstructed modernism whose ethics by fiat reveal the universality of the technai: egg-keeping, housebuilding, wood-carving, shoemaking and weaving, horsemanship, flute-playing, dancing, acting, and poetry writing especially when unified under the city of pollen eyes whose "what" includes medicine, mathematics, and meteorology which all echo the fragility of goodness by erecting a semicircular reflective surface across their reactive flora, whose conjugate fauna resemble the fine gravity bowler hat lens cut from the black paper of the universal feed-width whose height is ever-diminishing beneathe the spreading branches of the original growth plan's gracefully curving necks. Swan Messiah Spruce Wood Surfaces: http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/f/fauvism.html http://web.utk.edu/~utkgeog/faculty/grissino.htm http://www.botanik.uni-bonn.de/conifers/pi/pic/abies.htm http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/W/wolfe_critical.html http://www.rccr.cremona.it/stradivari/img/antonio.jpg http://www.zen-forum.com/a23/b2001/c08/d4/e427/z7 http://www.optics.kth.se/fysik2/staff/pu/thesis/thesis.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 23:56:41 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: A Letter to my Good Friend Linus Lettering, Comments: To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A Letter to my Good Friend Linus Lettering, Z.zzz http://www.hammarbykyrkan.nu/bilder/Linnes%20Hammarby/staty.jpg http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/images/linnaeus.jpg Am of late Dreaming of Linnaeus, the Resolution and Adventure. Reading excerpts of the wonderful letters of Anders Sparrmann, the Botanist, Magnetist, Abolitionist, Explorer and unwitting humorist found in the Anglo-Scandinavian Journal ARTES. (found a cache of several years worth for next to nothing, original CDs included) from the article 'How Tedius It Is to Be a Bureaucrat' by Otto Fagerstedt and Sverker Sörlin She displayed the greatest consternation at seeing the little Beasts nailed to the brim of my hat with pins. An immediate explanation was demanded. resa 1:70 I believed that I recognized in the New Zealanders and their wildness, many of the features of our Geatish forefathers, the Vikings.. resa 11:1 Hanover. A man he spoke to thinking back to the women of Malabaria. http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/collectionsDetail.cfm?ID=G254%3A6%2F3 Listening to the wonderful Musick of Wilhelm Stenhammar (1871-1927) http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~y-koba/Pianist3.jpg Sparrmann was considered a loser in his late life by his fellow academics, but his friend Thunberg was loyal to the end. These two stamps are a touching reminder of their friendship. http://kapstaden.nu/images/thunberg.jpg Thunberg's letters to the retired Professor usually began with- "Honored Herr Professor and Knight of the Order of Wasa.." Sparrmann had taken to wearing the motley and drinking fresh milk. The Swedenborgian dream had long died, and he chuckled when he thought of Nordenskjöld's alchemical 'economics' in that strange African never-never utopia of Prester John, but in 1820, destitute, Sparrmann remained the person who had been farthest south on the planet. & These photographs of the Russians in Siberia are... http://nrsm.nsc.ru:8101/sibir/dorev/war1/moment.htm http://nrsm.nsc.ru:8101/sibir/red/revol/traged/tr9.htm http://nrsm.nsc.ru:8101/sibir/dorev/war1/sold/za19.htm or just a trace of the Acerbi http://www.arengario.it/immagini/archive/arte/antica/p800mono/acerbi.jpg http://www.rovaniemi.fi/lapinkavijat/acerbi/kuvat/acerbi.jpg [] the trees and the seasons http://www.amicidelverde.it/pervir.htm Anne Sofie von Otter http://www.ottersandbutterflies.co.uk/acatalog/otter-book-l.jpg Yours affectionately, U. Stindberg (Ulfie, "Fats") http://southwest.library.arizona.edu/pict/fig47.jpg http://gamma.nic.fi/~heikj-0e/photos/jussi/painting1.jpg ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 03:17:50 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit our form is bare easy slow direct chi rising... low weight..sometime in the spring nite...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 07:26:54 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: "EDA: AN ANTHOLOGY OF CONTEMPORARY TURKISH POETRY" IS OUT - READING MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Poetry Project has selected readings from the anthology on Wednesday, May 12. Here are details and a passage from the introduction to the book: Istanbul, Eda, and Sufism: An Evening of Poetry Co-presented by The Poetry Project, Stevens Institute of Technology, Beykent University, and Talisman Books Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:00 pm The Poetry Project at St. Mark's Church 131 East 10th Street (at Second Avenue) New York, NY 10003 Participants Jordan Davies Maggie Dubris Ed Foster (publisher) Nada Gordon Murat Nemet-Nejat (editor and translator) Simon Pettet Gary Sullivan Mustafa Ziyalan "As much as a collection of translations of poems and essays, this book is a translation of a language. Due to the fortuitous convergence of historical, linguistic and geographic factors, in the 20th century -from the creation of the Turkish Republic in the 1920's to the 1990's when Istanbul/Constantinople/Byzantium turned from a jewel-like city of contrasts of under a million to a city of twelve million- Turkey created a body of poetry unique in the 20th century, with its own poetics, world view and idiosyncratic sensibility. What is more these qualities are intimately related to the nature of Turkish as a language -its strengths and its defining limits. As historical changes occurred, the language in this poetry responded to them, flowered, changed; but always remaining a continuum, a psychic essence, a dialectic which is an arabesque. It is this silent melody of the mind -the cadence of its total allure- which this collection tries to translate. While every effort has been made to create the individual music of each poem and poet, none can really be understood without responding to the movement running through them, through Turkish in the 20th century. I call this essence eda, each poet, poem being a specific case of eda, unique stations in the progress of the Turkish soul, language. " Murat Nemet-Nejat ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 07:46:25 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Fwd: USA: Pattern of brutality and cruelty -- war crimes at Abu Ghraib Comments: To: deeplistening@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >>Note: forwarded message attached. >> >>News Release Issued by the International Secretariat of Amnesty Internatio= nal >> >>AI INDEX: AMR 51/077/2004 7 May 2004 >> >>USA: Pattern of brutality and cruelty -- war crimes at Abu Ghraib >> >> >>In an open letter to US President George W. Bush today, Amnesty >>International said that abuses allegedly committed by US agents in >>the Abu Ghraib facility in Baghdad were war crimes and called on >>the administration to fully investigate them to ensure that there >>is no impunity for anyone found responsible regardless of position >>or rank. >> >>Amnesty International said that it has documented a pattern of >>abuse by US agents against detainees, including in Iraq and >>Afghanistan, stretching back over the past two years. >> >>Despite claims this week by Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld to be >>"stunned" by abuses in Abu Ghraib, and that these were an >>"exception" and "not a pattern or practice", Amnesty International >>has presented consistent allegations of brutality and cruelty by US >>agents against detainees at the highest levels of the US >>Government, including the White House, the Department of Defense, >>and the State Department for the past two years. >> >>Last July, the organization raised allegations of torture and >>ill-treatment of Iraqi detainees by US and Coalition forces in a >>memorandum to the US Government and Coalition Provisional Authority >>(CPA) in Iraq. The allegations included beatings, electric shocks, >>sleep deprivation, hooding, and prolonged forced standing and >>kneeling. It received no response nor any indication from the >>administration or the CPA that an investigation took place. >> >>Despite repeated requests, Amnesty International has been denied >>access to all US detention facilities. >> >>"If the administration has nothing to hide, it should immediately >>end incommunicado detention and grant access to independent human >>rights monitors, including Amnesty International and the United >>Nations, to all detention facilities," said Irene Khan, Secretary >>General of Amnesty International. >> >>"The US administration has shown a consistent disregard for the >>Geneva Conventions and basic principles of law, human rights and >>decency. This has created a climate in which US soldiers feel they >>can dehumanize and degrade prisoners with impunity. >> >>"What we now see in Iraq is the logical consequence of the >>relentless pursuit of the 'war on terror' regardless of the costs >>to human rights and the rules of war." >> >>Amnesty International has expressed concern about the mixed >>messages which the US government has sent regarding its commitment >>to international human rights standards. >> >>Abuses have not been restricted to Abu Ghraib. Numerous people held >>in the US Air Bases in Bagram and Kandahar in Afghanistan say they >>were subjected to torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading >>treatment in US custody, and the administration has failed to >>comply with the Geneva Conventions with regard to the Guant=E1namo >>detainees. >> >>Former Guant=E1namo detainee Wazir Mohammad told Amnesty >>International of excessive and cruel use of shackles and handcuffs, >>sleep deprivation, and of being forced to crawl on his knees from >>his cell to the interrogation room during his detention in >>Afghanistan. >> >>At Bagram and Kandahar, he was held incommunicado, with no >>opportunity to challenge the lawfulness of his detention, no >>lawyer, and no access to his family. He never met a delegate from >>the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). In over a year >>in Guant=E1namo he says he met an ICRC delegate once, on the first >>day. >> >>Former Guant=E1namo prisoner, Walid al-Qadasi, was held in a secret >>detention facility in Kabul. He said prisoners termed the first >>night of interrogation by US agents "the black night". He said >>that: "They cut our clothes with scissors, left us naked and took >>photos of us ... handcuffed our hands behind our backs, blindfolded >>us and started interrogating us ... threatened me with death, >>accusing me of belonging to al-Qa'ida." He alleged that detainees >>were subjected to sleep deprivation, including through use of loud >>music. >> >>An individual who worked in Guant=E1namo told Amnesty International >>that most if not all detainees he had contact with there claimed to >>have been physically abused in Kandahar or Bagram. This person >>expressed no surprise at the evidence from Iraq, and stated that >>abuse in Afghanistan appeared to be part of softening up detainees >>for interrogation and detention. >> >>Amnesty International is concerned that the investigation headed by >>Major General Antonio Taguba, which found "systematic and illegal >>abuse of detainees" in Abu Ghraib, was not intended for public >>release, and that the administration's current response only came >>once the report and photographic evidence became public. >> >>Apparently attempting to downplay the seriousness of the >>allegations at a news briefing on 4 May, Secretary Rumsfeld >>suggested that: "what has been charged so far is abuse ... >>technically different from torture". In fact the "numerous >>incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuse" found by >>Taguba constitute acts of torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading >>treatment and are war crimes. >> >>Incidents include punching and kicking detainees; jumping on their >>naked feet; forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually >>explicit positions for photographing; positioning a naked detainee >>on a box with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his >>fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture; and placing >>a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a >>female soldier pose for a picture. >> >>Those responsible for what Taguba concluded are "proven abuse ... >>inflicted on detainees" should be brought to justice in accordance >>with the USA's obligations under international and US law. >>Investigations should cover the higher chain of command >>responsibility as well as direct perpetrators. >> >>Comments this week by Major General Geoffrey Milller, in charge of >>detainee operations in Iraq, that sleep deprivation and stress >>positions could be used against detainees show that the US >>administration still has not learnt that ill-treatment and abuse >>are a slippery slope to torture and should be totally prohibited. >> >>Restraining detainees in very painful positions, hooding, threats, >>and prolonged sleep deprivation violate the prohibition on torture >>and cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment. >> >>Amnesty International calls on President Bush to ensure impartial >>and transparent investigations into torture and deaths in US >>custody and that anyone found responsible be brought to justice. >> >> >>Background: Iraq - People come first, >>http://amnesty-news.c.topica.com/maacd8Kaa6F47bfc1NLb/ -- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 09:33:35 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Restoring Our Imaginary Honor Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press Restoring Our Imaginary Honor by Tomas L. Friedegg, The New York Crime Magazine They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 09:04:23 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dale Smith Subject: New essay on Silliman, Austin and Olson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" A new Bookslut edition is available on the web at http://www.bookslut.com. My article in the Marsupial Inquirer, "Line and Rhythm," looks at Ron Silliman's "New Sentence," Mary Austin's "American Rhythm" and Charles Olson's "Quantity in Verse...." Please check it out. Dale -- Dale Smith 2925 Higgins Street Austin, Texas 78722 www.skankypossum.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 10:02:55 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gabriel Gudding Subject: Mothers' Day, Opposition to War, and American Poetry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I first became interested in Julie Ward Howe last March when researching 19th Century anti-war poetry in the Rockefeller Library at Brown University. Tomorrow, Mothers' Day, was more or less founded by Julia Ward Howe (she of the bizarre battle hymn) with a proclamation to women in 1870 that arose out of disgust at the slaughters of the American Civil War -- good example of what Lynn Worsham, in her essay "Going Postal: Pedagogic Violence and the Schooling of Emotion," calls, following Jon Schiller, "psychic matriarchy," one engaged in a socially necessary emotional labor. In short, Mother's Day has been re-coded from an anti-war commemorative and a call to global political mobilization -- and sentimentalized and domesticated it into a single day in which a kind of emotional payment is rendered to the individual Mom: a day of emotional recompense for affective services rendered. Or at least that's the way it seems to be coded in the communities with which I'm familiar. Even the debate about where to place the possessive apostrophe is instructive: is this day about the apoliticized individual mother or about the empowered collective of mothers?, which collective Philip Wylie, in Generation of Vipers, dismissively calls "Multimomism." So, I wanted to quote Howe's initial proclamation. I only saw a facsimile of the original broadside once and my memory's hazy and beyond that I haven't looked at anything but electronic versions of it, so I can't figure out how to resolve the variation in the 22nd word, which is sometimes rendered "fears" and sometimes "tears." "Arise, then, women of this day! Arise all women who have hearts, whether our baptism be that of water or of tears! Say firmly: 'We will not have great questions decided by irrelevant agencies. Our husbands shall not come to us, reeking with carnage, for caresses and applause. Our sons shall not be taken from us to unlearn all that we have been able to teach them of charity, mercy and patience. We women of one country will be too tender of those of another country to allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs. From the bosom of the devastated earth a voice goes up with our own. It says 'Disarm, Disarm! The sword of murder is not the balance of justice.' Blood does not wipe our dishonor nor violence indicate possession. As men have often forsaken the plow and the anvil at the summons of war, let women now leave all that may be left of home for a great and earnest day of counsel. Let them meet first, as women, to bewail and commemorate the dead. Let them then solemnly take counsel with each other as to the means whereby the great human family can live in peace, each bearing after their own time the sacred impress, not of Caesar, but of God. In the name of womanhood and of humanity, I earnestly ask that a general congress of women without limit of nationality may be appointed and held at some place deemed most convenient and at the earliest period consistent with its objects, to promote the alliance of the different nationalities, the amicable settlement of international questions, the great and general interests of peace." __________________ Gabriel Gudding Department of English Illinois State University Normal, IL 61790 office 309.438.5284 gmguddi@ilstu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 10:08:57 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: New Reading Series in Chicago In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Buffalo List: I have recently taken over the Unity Temple Literary Series at Frank Lloyd Wright's Unity Temple in Oak Park, IL near Chicago. You all may know the building it is one of Wright's most famous and we have the sanctuary space for 5 nights a year. October, November, January 2005, February 2005 and March 2005. We are in the process of inviting readers to read; the readings are normally Tuesday nights. If any of you are promoting books et cetera I am open to giving you a venue in Chicago. We are planning to have some thematic evenings since we need to attract a broader audience, and we have 400 seats to fill. We are at present set on presenting an evening of New Polish and Polish American writing, the poet Mark Tardi is helping us this this project, since Chicago is Poland's second city. We are also committed to do an event for Gay/Lesbian/Transgender poets since Oak Park where we are located is focused on being a tolerant open community. I am open for proposals from writers or poets who are on the buffalo list since I favor the aesthetic here but I want to expand the series' reach beyond people I know personally. Hence, if you have ideas write me at saudade@comcast.net and lets see if we can work something out together. Regards Ray Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Dale Smith > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 9:04 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: New essay on Silliman, Austin and Olson > > > A new Bookslut edition is available on the web at > http://www.bookslut.com. My article in the Marsupial Inquirer, "Line > and Rhythm," looks at Ron Silliman's "New Sentence," Mary Austin's > "American Rhythm" and Charles Olson's "Quantity in Verse...." Please > check it out. > > Dale > > -- > Dale Smith > 2925 Higgins Street > Austin, Texas 78722 > www.skankypossum.com > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:44:30 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Re: Mothers' Day, Opposition to War, and American Poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gabriel: Thank you for this. Beneath everything there's always a pure pulse, an initial proclamation, that intent. Cheers, Gerald > I first became interested in Julie Ward Howe last March when researching > 19th Century anti-war poetry in the Rockefeller Library at Brown > University. Tomorrow, Mothers' Day, was more or less founded by Julia Ward > Howe (she of the bizarre battle hymn) with a proclamation to women in 1870 > that arose out of disgust at the slaughters of the American Civil War -- > good example of what Lynn Worsham, in her essay "Going Postal: Pedagogic > Violence and the Schooling of Emotion," calls, following Jon Schiller, > "psychic matriarchy," one engaged in a socially necessary emotional labor. > > In short, Mother's Day has been re-coded from an anti-war commemorative and > a call to global political mobilization -- and sentimentalized and > domesticated it into a single day in which a kind of emotional payment is > rendered to the individual Mom: a day of emotional recompense for affective > services rendered. Or at least that's the way it seems to be coded in the > communities with which I'm familiar. Even the debate about where to place > the possessive apostrophe is instructive: is this day about the > apoliticized individual mother or about the empowered collective of > mothers?, which collective Philip Wylie, in Generation of Vipers, > dismissively calls "Multimomism." > > So, I wanted to quote Howe's initial proclamation. I only saw a facsimile > of the original broadside once and my memory's hazy and beyond that I > haven't looked at anything but electronic versions of it, so I can't figure > out how to resolve the variation in the 22nd word, which is sometimes > rendered "fears" and sometimes "tears." > > "Arise, then, women of this day! Arise all women who have hearts, > whether our baptism be that of water or of tears! > > Say firmly: 'We will not have great questions decided by > irrelevant agencies. Our husbands shall not come to us, reeking > with carnage, for caresses and applause. Our sons shall not be > taken from us to unlearn all that we have been able to teach > them of charity, mercy and patience. > > We women of one country will be too tender of those of another > country to allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs. From > the bosom of the devastated earth a voice goes up with our own. > It says 'Disarm, Disarm! The sword of murder is not the balance > of justice.' > > Blood does not wipe our dishonor nor violence indicate possession. > As men have often forsaken the plow and the anvil at the summons > of war, let women now leave all that may be left of home for a > great and earnest day of counsel. Let them meet first, as women, > to bewail and commemorate the dead. > > Let them then solemnly take counsel with each other as to the > means whereby the great human family can live in peace, each > bearing after their own time the sacred impress, not of Caesar, > but of God. > > In the name of womanhood and of humanity, I earnestly ask that a > general congress of women without limit of nationality may be > appointed and held at some place deemed most convenient and at > the earliest period consistent with its objects, to promote the > alliance of the different nationalities, the amicable settlement > of international questions, the great and general interests of > peace." > > > > __________________ > Gabriel Gudding > Department of English > Illinois State University > Normal, IL 61790 > office 309.438.5284 > gmguddi@ilstu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 08:52:04 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Mr. Malimbicus" Subject: meta[para]noiac fragments? Comments: To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Of (What?) [Liberty, Freedom, War, Peace, Motherhood, Fatherhood, Political Reality, the Body, the Mind, History, Language]??? Meta-meta[para]noiac fragments: (Where poetry does not demonstrate its stupefaction, halt or falter, it sometimes sends the empirical shadow of the poet to the Hölderlin-Turm, on Lenz's walks, or through Artaud's howls.) The narrative stall around the events that take 'Johnny' away recapitulates the initiatory drama of not knowing: 'Susan', who dwells alone, is making a "piteous moan": No hand to help them in distress; Old Susan lies a-bed in pain, And sorely puzzled are the twain, For what she ails they cannot guess. They are caught in the spiralling despair of naming her illness. The effort of deciphering her condition is itself associated with pain; they are sorely puzzled, stumped, unable to guess..* Footnotes: 1. "The pilot has left the cabin..." 2. Nietzsche accuses Plato of being a corrupt artist, of placing art at the service of an ascetic, life-slandering philosophy, of corrupting art in the service of truth. 3. In Western philosophy, silence marks the edge of logic, where it takes you, and where it drops you off: The Real. 4. in the name of Molière and his Diafoirus, a bit of misanthropy! 5. Give up Art, Save the Starving. *taken from Avital Ronel's _Stupidity_ PS. Knowledge Is Suffering; comments by: Walter Alter Herculine Barbin Julian Beck Bob Black Philip K. Dick J.R. "Bob" Dobbs For Ourselves Anton S. LaVey Nathan Leopold Sandy Lesberg G. Litherland and H. Rammel P.M. Ernest Mann Gerry Reith Israel Regardie the Marquis de Sade Orton Nenslo Hakim Bey Raoul Vaneigem ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 10:23:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Mothers' Day, Opposition to War, and American Poetry In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20040508100211.01eb96d0@mail.ilstu.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thank you for this, Gabe. What immediately came (also) ringing to my mind was an also great anti-War Civil War period lyric (I believe), When Johnny Comes Marching Home. From the terrifying descriptions of soldiers maimed in Iraq (which hardly ever include the Iraqis), it seems high time for a re-make of that bell weather song, this time with "Johnny & Jane" - let alone the "songs" needed to help throw out the fools that led us into this darkest of more looming disasters. My daughter just called out, "Happy Mother's Day, Dad." What's a single father to do!! No irony, it seems, lost on the young. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > I first became interested in Julie Ward Howe last March when researching > 19th Century anti-war poetry in the Rockefeller Library at Brown > University. Tomorrow, Mothers' Day, was more or less founded by Julia Ward > Howe (she of the bizarre battle hymn) with a proclamation to women in 1870 > that arose out of disgust at the slaughters of the American Civil War -- > good example of what Lynn Worsham, in her essay "Going Postal: Pedagogic > Violence and the Schooling of Emotion," calls, following Jon Schiller, > "psychic matriarchy," one engaged in a socially necessary emotional labor. > > In short, Mother's Day has been re-coded from an anti-war commemorative and > a call to global political mobilization -- and sentimentalized and > domesticated it into a single day in which a kind of emotional payment is > rendered to the individual Mom: a day of emotional recompense for affective > services rendered. Or at least that's the way it seems to be coded in the > communities with which I'm familiar. Even the debate about where to place > the possessive apostrophe is instructive: is this day about the > apoliticized individual mother or about the empowered collective of > mothers?, which collective Philip Wylie, in Generation of Vipers, > dismissively calls "Multimomism." > > So, I wanted to quote Howe's initial proclamation. I only saw a facsimile > of the original broadside once and my memory's hazy and beyond that I > haven't looked at anything but electronic versions of it, so I can't figure > out how to resolve the variation in the 22nd word, which is sometimes > rendered "fears" and sometimes "tears." > > "Arise, then, women of this day! Arise all women who have hearts, > whether our baptism be that of water or of tears! > > Say firmly: 'We will not have great questions decided by > irrelevant agencies. Our husbands shall not come to us, reeking > with carnage, for caresses and applause. Our sons shall not be > taken from us to unlearn all that we have been able to teach > them of charity, mercy and patience. > > We women of one country will be too tender of those of another > country to allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs. From > the bosom of the devastated earth a voice goes up with our own. > It says 'Disarm, Disarm! The sword of murder is not the balance > of justice.' > > Blood does not wipe our dishonor nor violence indicate possession. > As men have often forsaken the plow and the anvil at the summons > of war, let women now leave all that may be left of home for a > great and earnest day of counsel. Let them meet first, as women, > to bewail and commemorate the dead. > > Let them then solemnly take counsel with each other as to the > means whereby the great human family can live in peace, each > bearing after their own time the sacred impress, not of Caesar, > but of God. > > In the name of womanhood and of humanity, I earnestly ask that a > general congress of women without limit of nationality may be > appointed and held at some place deemed most convenient and at > the earliest period consistent with its objects, to promote the > alliance of the different nationalities, the amicable settlement > of international questions, the great and general interests of > peace." > > > > __________________ > Gabriel Gudding > Department of English > Illinois State University > Normal, IL 61790 > office 309.438.5284 > gmguddi@ilstu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 14:09:03 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: hutt opens doors on poetry - two new issues! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hutt opens doors on poetry - two new issues! =20 =20 hutt 0.3 =20 http://www.papertigermedia.com/hutt/hutt03/hutt03.htm =20 michael rothenberg john kinsella david prater richard hillman mark pirie clayton a. couch jill jones todd swift joanne burns =20 =20 hutt 0.4 =20 http://www.papertigermedia.com/hutt/hutt04/hutt04.htm =20 jukka-pekka kervinen laurie duggan joanne burns b.r. dionysius luke beesley l.e. scott andy jackson gregory vincent st. thomasino simon hall jaya savige =20 =20 hutt - it's a home for poetry. http://www.papertigermedia.com/hutt/index.htm =20 =20 contact: paul hardacre hutt@papertigermedia.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 13:11:25 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Seldess Subject: Discrete Series 5/14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit __________THE DISCRETE SERIES @ 3030__________ presents Nicolas Collins (with Jonathan Chen) :: Judd Morrissey [New York born and raised, Nicolas Collins studied composition with Alvin Lucier at Wesleyan University, worked for many years with David Tudor, and has collaborated with numerous soloist and ensembles around the world. He lived most of the 1990s in Europe, where he was Visiting Artistic Director of Stichting STEIM (Amsterdam), and a DAAD composer-in-residence in Berlin. Since 1997 he has been editor-in-chief of the Leonardo Music Journal. He is currently Chair of the Department of Sound at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. Recent recordings are available on PlateLunch, Periplum and Apestaartje.] >>>Nic's words about the performance at Discrete: The Talking Cure, Chicago duo version, May 2004 For many years I've been using spoken texts in my music. The voice lends its own sonic qualities, and triggers or controls other sounds (usually electronic, often via computer mediation) to generate extensions and elaborations of the melody and rhythm of natural speech. Narrative content provides form and direction: the hypnotic, often soporific seduction of a good story became central to both life and music while I was raising my small children through the 1990s. I scavenged and collaged found texts from a wide range of authors - neurologists, poets, mystery writers, historians - and penned a few myself, or in collaboration with my author-wife Susan Tallman. Until recently, however, the words were always fixed before I went on stage. The rest of my performance activities incorporate a fair degree of ad hoc decision making and improvisation, so a few years ago I decided to develop a musical strategy for "improvised talking." In "The Talking Cure" a computer follows the inflection and phoneme content of the voice and generates a piano accompaniment that, to my ear, sounds like Charles Ives working a cocktail lounge. The computer also records certain specific speech sounds, which can be played back later to overlay a vaguely instrumental solo line, inspired by the extraordinary trumpet style of Axel Dörner. Sometimes I begin the performance with a family letter or a newspaper article in hand as a conceptual point of departure; other times I prepare nothing. I hold forth for 15-25 minutes and the computer does the rest, making music off my cuff. The title derives from an early euphemism for Freudian psychoanalysis. Freud advised the patient to "utter without obstruction the thoughts and ideas rising to his mind," which is pretty much the advice I follow on stage. For this performance I will be joined by Jonathan Chen in the triple role of fellow patient, analyst and violinist.<<< [Judd Morrissey is a writer and programmer whose work in electronic literature has been widely and internationally received and exhibited. With his hypertext, The Jew's Daughter, he introduced his unique form of digital narrative, an unstable, self-evolving, virtual page that continuously re-writes itself in response to the reader. My Name is Captain, Captain., a digital 'night-flight' poem created in collaboration with Lori Talley, was published by Eastgate Systems in 2002. Judd is now concentrating on a new work in progress, The Error Engine, an experiment in writing and artificial intelligence that reflects his ongoing concerns with the relationship of literature and accident and the nature and future of the book. He teaches in the Art and Technology Studies department at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago.] >>>About Judd's performance at Discrete: from The Error Engine A reading from The Error Engine, a system designed to create performances in language that are authored collaboratively by humans and machines. It is an attempt to write the book that writes itself, that becomes the continuous movement towards its own completion, a solution to the system of itself. A collaboration with Lori Talley and Lutz Hamel, the work takes the visual form of a digital page that undergoes fluid transformations, weaving and re-weaving itself together in response to the interactions of the reader. Following the reading, visitors may communicate with the work by sending text messages from their cell phones. The messages will be interpreted by the engine as constraints for the evolution of the narrative.<<< Friday, May 14 9PM / 3030 W. Cortland / $5 suggested donation / BYOB 3030 is a former Pentecostal church located at 3030 W. Cortland Ave., one block south of Armitage between Humboldt Blvd. and Kedzie. Parking is easiest on Armitage. The Discrete Series will present an event of poetry/music/performance/something on the second Friday of each month. For more information about this or upcoming events, email j_seldess@hotmail.com or kerri@conundrumpoetry.com , or call the space at 773-862-3616. For a map to the space, and samples of past and future readers' work, visit the Discrete blog http://discreteseries.blogspot.com/ http://www.lavamatic.com/discrete/index.htm Coming up next month, 6/11 Brenda Ijiima, Mark Tardi, TBA .if you'd like to be removed from this list please respond kindly... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 14:34:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Fw: get your war on MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was sent this link today. I thought you all might find it interesting. = Get Your War On http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 15:39:37 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Surviving quicksand and quagmire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI "Quicksand is a mixture of sand and water that forms a shifting mass. It yields easily to pressure and tends to suck down and engulf objects resting on its surface. It varies in depth and is usually localized. Quicksand generally occurs on flat shores, in silt-choked rivers with shifting water courses, and near the mouths of large rivers. If you are uncertain whether a sandy area is quicksand, toss a small stone on it. The stone will sink in quicksand. "Although quicksand has more suction than mud or muck, you can cross it in the same way you do a bog; flatten out, face downward, arms spread, and move slowly across. "You can give yourself more buoyancy by forming air pockets in your clothing. Tie your pants at the ankles to form air pockets in the legs. Blow your breath inside the front opening of your collar to form air pockets over your shoulders." fr. *US Army Survival Manual: FM 21-76* [repr. by Dorset Press, New York, 2002] "Quicksand is one of the most widely publicized outdoor dander, but one of the least understood. "Quicksand is actually fine sand floating 'on top of and in water.' The water is usually from a weak underground spring and is moving up with enough pressure to keep the grains of sand suspended and moving or 'quick.' A quagmire is similar to quicksand. It is composed of decayed material or mud suspended by underground water. "The first rule in either case is to remember you're basically in water and you can 'swim' or crawl free. "The most important rule is not to panic. Usually when you find yourself in quicksand you've already sunk up to your waist and struggling will only cause you to sink faster. "Immediately throw yourself out backwards flat on the sand, arms and legs spread as wide as possible. While you float on the sand try to gently extricate each leg, then roll and try to swim out. "The main thing is to prevent tiring yourself, so take your time and rest often. "Panic-stricken struggling only causes you to sink 'by gravity' deeper into the mire. In trying to pull out one leg you will only force the other leg (with all your weight) down further. "Avoid sudden motions--take your time. "Usually quicksand or quagmire beds are not too large so don't give up. "Quicksand or quagmire are found all over the North American continent, so learn to watch for them. Quicksand is most often found in areas where water rises to the surface of the earth, for instance in stream beds and around springs. Be especially careful in sandy soil around these areas. Quagmires are often found around old waterholes, in muskeg country and around swamps, marshes and tidal flats. "If you're traveling in quicksand or quagmire country, carry a long pole and probe the ground ahead of you." fr. Mark Gregory, *The Good Earth Almanac Survival Handbook* [New York: Sheed and Ward, Inc., 1973] cc: Mssrs. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Powell, Blair Hal Not responsible for topographical errors. Halvard Johnson =============== email: halvard@earthlink.net website: http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 15:40:52 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Lisa Jarnot Email In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anyone have Lisa's email? R Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Halvard Johnson > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 2:40 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Surviving quicksand and quagmire > > > FYI > > "Quicksand is a mixture of sand and water that forms a shifting mass. > It yields easily to pressure and tends to suck down and engulf objects > resting on its surface. It varies in depth and is usually > localized. Quicksand > generally occurs on flat shores, in silt-choked rivers with shifting water > courses, and near the mouths of large rivers. If you are uncertain whether > a sandy area is quicksand, toss a small stone on it. The stone > will sink in > quicksand. > > "Although quicksand has more suction than mud or muck, you can cross > it in the same way you do a bog; flatten out, face downward, arms spread, > and move slowly across. > > "You can give yourself more buoyancy by forming air pockets in your > clothing. Tie your pants at the ankles to form air pockets in the > legs. Blow > your breath inside the front opening of your collar to form air > pockets over > your shoulders." > > fr. *US Army Survival Manual: FM 21-76* > [repr. by Dorset Press, New York, 2002] > > > "Quicksand is one of the most widely publicized outdoor dander, but one > of the least understood. > > "Quicksand is actually fine sand floating 'on top of and in > water.' The water > is usually from a weak underground spring and is moving up with enough > pressure to keep the grains of sand suspended and moving or 'quick.' A > quagmire is similar to quicksand. It is composed of decayed material or > mud suspended by underground water. > > "The first rule in either case is to remember you're basically in > water and you > can 'swim' or crawl free. > > "The most important rule is not to panic. Usually when you find yourself > in quicksand you've already sunk up to your waist and struggling will only > cause you to sink faster. > > "Immediately throw yourself out backwards flat on the sand, arms and legs > spread as wide as possible. While you float on the sand try to gently > extricate each leg, then roll and try to swim out. > > "The main thing is to prevent tiring yourself, so take your time and rest > often. > > "Panic-stricken struggling only causes you to sink 'by gravity' > deeper into > the mire. In trying to pull out one leg you will only force the > other leg (with > all your weight) down further. > > "Avoid sudden motions--take your time. > > "Usually quicksand or quagmire beds are not too large so don't give up. > > "Quicksand or quagmire are found all over the North American continent, > so learn to watch for them. Quicksand is most often found in areas where > water rises to the surface of the earth, for instance in stream > beds and around > springs. Be especially careful in sandy soil around these areas. Quagmires > are often found around old waterholes, in muskeg country and > around swamps, > marshes and tidal flats. > > "If you're traveling in quicksand or quagmire country, carry a > long pole and > probe the ground ahead of you." > > fr. Mark Gregory, *The Good Earth Almanac Survival Handbook* > [New York: Sheed and Ward, Inc., 1973] > > cc: Mssrs. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Powell, Blair > > > Hal Not responsible for topographical errors. > > Halvard Johnson > =============== > email: halvard@earthlink.net > website: http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 22:00:12 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Walking Theory 11 - 20 Comments: cc: "J. Scappettone" , linda norton , "Brian Kim Stefans [arras.net]" , cstroffo@earthlink.net Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit * It's not the completed step. It's the step that follows. * Walking Theory #11 - #20 now up on the blog. http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com Stephen Vincent ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 02:11:25 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: wh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII wh silently and with my eyes whide closed i am a big disrupter but am trying :::I am thinking of you, and:I am thinking of you, and silently and with my eyes whide closed i am a big disrupter but am trying :::me and I am spanked and I love the spanking and my bottom hurts so badly :new for you today I am sorry to say I will not continue in this vein. But Your pledge names my and my bottom too when they spank. I am away from my desk and have nothing ! silently and with my eyes whide closed i am a big disrupter but am trying ::::communcation possible opnly within the machinery of the blogs, am I silently and with my eyes whide closed i am a big disrupter but am trying spelly :::me and I am spanked and I love the spanking and my tooshie hurts so badly :communcation possible opnly within the machinery of the blogs, am I spelly Your pledge names my to behave myself and wonder, are these things over at last, is free ! silently and with my eyes whide closed i am a big disrupter but am trying to behave myself and wonder, are these things over at last, is free communcation possible opnly within the machinery of the blogs, am I spelly possibly, I am so tired, I am Jennifer age 134, my parents didn't expect me and I am spanked and I love the spanking and my tooshie hurts so badly and my bottom too when they spank. I am away from my desk and have nothing new for you today I am sorry to say I will not continue in this vein. But I am thinking of you, and __ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 02:15:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Moderating your message (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII black-hole syndicate list. I'm not responsible. please don't think I have anything to do with this. I don't. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 08:12:28 +0200 (CEST) From: SYMPA To: sondheim@panix.com Subject: Moderating your message Your message for list syndicate has been forwarded to editor(s) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 03:16:53 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lor cut back the rose bush to let it grow wet spring wild energy... 3:00 e.d.t...um...lost in word-time..drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 03:18:58 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Proffsr Chang sz enforce authority put the tai in chi... 3:00..plus fulmination...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 06:44:11 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: IN THE SHADOWS OF ABU GHRAIB PRISON Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/25652.php IN THE SHADOWS OF ABU GHRAIB PRISON One need look no further than the faces in the photos of Abu Ghraib for the answer. When speaking recently with Emory Douglas, the celebrated former Minister of Culture of the Black Panther Party, and chief graphic artist of its famed newspaper, *The Black Panther*, Emory brought to mind an image that is almost lost in history. He reminded me of a police raid on the West Philadelphia offices of the Black Panther Party, on August 31, 1970, when the police, armed with automatic weapons, stripped men in the streets. IN THE SHADOWS OF ABU GHRAIB PRISON =================================== [Col. Writ. 5/3/04] Copyright 2004 Mumia Abu-Jamal The color photos coming out of the dreaded Abu Ghraib prison on Baghdad's outskirts are racing around the world, silent yet eloquent testament to what Americans really think about the people they allegedly came here to 'liberate.' The photos, especially in the age of the internet, are racing through the Arab and Muslim world, and showing a side of the American character that seldom gets to be seen, especially abroad. The photos of naked Arab men, some posed with laughing, jeering US women, is the height of humiliation, and tells everyone who can see, that Americans hold the Iraqis, and by extension, other Arabs, in utter contempt. "This is not America," a politician huffs. "I am appalled!," yet another exclaims. Yet, what is truly appalling, and perhaps more chilling than the naked, human pyramids shown, is the sheer glee shown in the faces of the Americans. The photos flashed in British tabloids, of soldiers urinating-- pissing! -- on naked Iraqis, tells the same baleful tale. These are the actions of contempt, hatred, disrespect -- and conquest. Are the Americans and the British liberators or occupiers? One need look no further than the faces in the photos of Abu Ghraib for the answer. When speaking recently with Emory Douglas, the celebrated former Minister of Culture of the Black Panther Party, and chief graphic artist of its famed newspaper, *The Black Panther*, Emory brought to mind an image that is almost lost in history. He reminded me of a police raid on the West Philadelphia offices of the Black Panther Party, on August 31, 1970, when the police, armed with automatic weapons, stripped men in the streets. I also thought of the infamous Charles Stuart case, from Boston, when a white man claimed a Black man killed his wife. The cops descended on Roxbury, Black Boston like a plague. They stripped men in the streets of Beantown. Many of the Americans working in the prisons of Iraq, especially in the reserves, are cops or prison guards in their civilian lives. Indeed, one of the men identified as a suspect in the brutal mistreatment of people in Abu Ghraib, indeed a corporal in the Army, works here, at SCI-Greene! The horrific treatment of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib has its dark precedents in the prisons and police stations across America. Journalist Seymour Hersch, of *The New Yorker* magazine, has alleged that there have been cases of sodomy against Iraqis there at Abu Ghraib, and even killing. Does the name Abner Louima ring a bell? If you hate someone; if you disrespect them; if you fear them, how can you 'liberate' them? As we have said from the very beginning, the Iraq Adventure is not, and never has been, about 'liberating' an oppressed people. Indeed, a recent CNN/USA Today poll suggests Iraqis have come to that conclusion, with 71% stating Americans are "occupiers." Americans may call it 'liberation,' but they are bringing torture, humiliation, and domination. Nor are these events the work of people who are "untrained", "poorly trained," or the always useful, "bad apples." As we have suggested above, many of those who are there in Iraq, and hundreds of the people working in Abu Ghraib prison, were reserves, and came from jobs as prison guards and cops in civilian life. They are perhaps better trained than the average M.P. Don't buy it. It is somehow fitting that these depraved acts have happened in one of the most dreadful gulags of the Hussein regime; it shows the continuity of torture and terror. Now, let us prepare for the inevitable whitewash. Those of us who know history are certain -- it is sure to come. Copyright 2004 Mumia Abu-Jamal [Read Mr. Jamal's latest work, *WE WANT FREEDOM: A Life in the Black Panther Party*, from South End Press (http://www.southendpress.org).] =============================== "When a cause comes along and you know in your bones that it is just, yet refuse to defend it--at that moment you begin to die. And I have never seen so many corpses walking around talking about justice." - Mumia Abu-Jamal -\ ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 07:43:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Re: Walking Theory 11 - 20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A walker doesn't place one foot in front of the other, but takes one step at a time. -Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Vincent" To: Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: Walking Theory 11 - 20 > * > It's not the completed step. > It's the step that follows. > > * > > Walking Theory #11 - #20 > now up on the blog. > > http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > > > Stephen Vincent ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 07:46:16 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ram Devineni Subject: Rattapallax 11 Launch Reading In-Reply-To: <9486025.1084090624916.JavaMail.root@wamui07.slb.atl.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Friends: Please join us at the Rattapallax 11 Launch Reading/Party. Featuring Charles Bernstein, Roger Bonair-Agard, Elena Alexander, Charles Martin, David Mills, Urayoan Noel, John Rodriguez, Henry Israeli, and Tom Savage. Derek Beres will DJ. "New Chilean Poetry" read by Shradha Shah, Aracelis Girmay, Emily Maguire, Jonathan Bourland, Andrew Gebhardt, Danielle Leah Sered, and others. Hosted by Edwin Torres and Idra Novey. May 11at 7pm. Issue Project Room, 619 E. 6th St., b/ Ave. B and C, NYC. $5. Rattapallax 11 features work on Pablo Neruda, Fela Kuti & AIDS, 9 Young Poets from Chile and work from Antibalas, DJ Spooky, Breyten Breytenbach, Timothy Liu, Toni Blackman, Sapphire, Martín Espada, Marciano, Luciana Souza, Marjorie Agosín, Nicomedes Suárez-Araúz, Edward Hirsch, and many others. Now in bookstores and includes a CD. Also, join us at the party for CLMP. Council of Literary Magazines and Presses Celebrates 37 Years. May 10, 2004 at 7 pm. The Mercantile Library, 17 East 47th Street, NYC. Tax-deductible contribution: $60 ($40/employees of literary publishers, nonprofits, or under 35). RSVP to 212.741.9110 or tdidato@clmp.org Cheers Ram Devineni Publisher Rattapallax http://www.rattapallax.com ===== Please send future emails to devineni@rattapallax.com for press devineni@dialoguepoetry.org for UN program __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 11:24:26 -0400 Reply-To: jennifer@poetrysociety.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "jennifer@poetrysociety.org" Subject: CIRCUMFERENCE Reading: Weinberger, Caws, and more MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Join CIRCUMFERENCE, a journal of poetry in translation, for a=20 celebratory reading in honor of =93World in Translation Month=2E=94 Translators MARY ANN CAWS, ELIOT WEINBERGER, FARNOOSH=20 FATHI, and LIZ WERNER will read poems from France, China, Iran,=20 Peru and more, in English and in the original languages=2E Monday, May 17th, 7:30 Admission is Free! 709 Lorimer St=2E in Williamsburg Brooklyn Near the Lorimer L stop and the Metropolitan G stop (To view a terrific map visit=20 http://www=2Epetescandystore=2Ecom/pete%27s_map=2Ehtml) This reading is hosted by the Pete=92s Big Salmon reading series=20 (www=2Epetesbigsalmon=2Ecom)=2E Best wishes, Stefania Heim & Jennifer Kronovet Editors editors@circumferencemag=2Ecom www=2Ecircumferencemag=2Ecom -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 09:38:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Walking Theory 11 - 20 In-Reply-To: <001901c435d3$ed95b700$61fdfc83@oemcomputer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > A walker doesn't place one foot in front of the other, > but takes one step at a time. > > -Joel > I am not sure what exactly you mean, Joel, but from a Muybridge 'motion picture' perspective, I will take what you say to be factually true. It's not the completed step. It's the step that follows. I believe the words here are working on a "meta" interpretative level, as well. It's never over until it's (really) over, like 'done dead.'. Didn't Musil have a phrase similar? Don't judge a writer by what he's done, but what follows (or some such). Process. (Or why "artificial closure" - strict formalism - most often comes off as false & boring). I am having trouble finishing this! Stephen Vincent Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Vincent" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 10:00 PM > Subject: Walking Theory 11 - 20 > > >> * >> It's not the completed step. >> It's the step that follows. >> >> * >> >> Walking Theory #11 - #20 >> now up on the blog. >> >> http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com >> >> >> Stephen Vincent ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 11:27:42 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Godzilla Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Last night I saw "Godzilla" at the Castro in SF - a new print of the original Japanese film. Made in 1954, it's very good and goes right to the core of the experience of nuclear terror. If you saw, "The Fog of War", the footage of the firebombing of Japanese cities correlates quite closely with Godzilla's images of Tokyo burning. (Remember when Gen. LeMay told McMamara that if the USA had lost that war, the two of them would be held accountable for war crimes.) Of course there are those connections with the Bush Administration's commitment to rebuild a reliance on nuclear terror and the concurrent apprehension of a threatened regime or group's acquisition of nuclear devices to be aimed at taking the USA out as this globe's reigning "Godzilla." The film's new release could not be more timely - not-withstanding the release of those other inconvenient "pictures" ! Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 12:19:34 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Re: Walking Theory 11 - 20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How I read this is that to a walker, as opposed to someone who merely places one foot in front of the other, the state of one's mind matters more than the brand of one's shoes. -Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Vincent" To: Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Walking Theory 11 - 20 > > A walker doesn't place one foot in front of the other, > > but takes one step at a time. > > > > -Joel > > > > I am not sure what exactly you mean, Joel, but from a Muybridge 'motion > picture' perspective, I will take what you say to be factually true. > > It's not the completed step. > It's the step that follows. > > I believe the words here are working on a "meta" interpretative level, as > well. It's never over until it's (really) over, like 'done dead.'. Didn't > Musil have a phrase similar? Don't judge a writer by what he's done, but > what follows (or some such). Process. (Or why "artificial closure" - strict > formalism - most often comes off as false & boring). > > I am having trouble finishing this! > > > Stephen Vincent > Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephen Vincent" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 10:00 PM > > Subject: Walking Theory 11 - 20 > > > > > >> * > >> It's not the completed step. > >> It's the step that follows. > >> > >> * > >> > >> Walking Theory #11 - #20 > >> now up on the blog. > >> > >> http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > >> > >> > >> Stephen Vincent ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:21:48 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Sympathy for Lynndie England MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sympathy for Lynndie England You were never prepared for this. You never expected it. You grew up poor, in one of the poorest parts of the United States. You were something of a tomboy, but a good sort of person -- you got along with folks, and they tended to like you. You were impulsive, sometimes -- marrying on a whim at age 18, only to divorce the guy a year or so later -- but never nasty or vicious. You joined the Army Reserve, mostly, because it seemed to offer money and opportunities you couldn't get any other way. You hoped it would allow you to save up for college, and give you some of the skills you'd need in order to get in. But you never expected you'd be called up to active duty, and sent to Iraq: a country far away, hotter than Hell, and filled with people who we were supposed to have freed from tyranny: you were told that these people would love you, but it seemed that they mostly resented you, in a sullen sort of way; aside, that is, from the ones who actively hated you and tried to kill you. You were trained as much to be a bureaucrat as a soldier: your job was to sit behind a desk and process the papers of Iraqi detainees. But once you were actually working at the Abu Ghraib prison, you found that a lot more was expected of you. The higher-ups (both military officers whom you were supposed to obey, and private "contractors" who you were told you should also obey) wanted "information" from the detainees, and they wanted you to help them get it. There were various interrogation techniques they taught you: depriving the prisoners of sleep, stripping them naked and humiliating them sexually, putting hoods over their heads and subjecting them to mild electric shocks; and of course, threatening them with physical violence, and sometimes carrying through on the threats, for the sake of credibility. It was weird at first; you had never, in your wildest dreams, imagined doing these sorts of things to anyone. But these prisoners really hated and resented you; you knew they'd kill you if they could, if the positions were reversed. So it wasn't that hard to think of them as less than human; especially since your superiors encouraged you to think this way, encouraged you to be relentless, not to let the fuckers get away with anything, pry their secrets loose from them before more Americans, more of your buddies, were killed. And when you did your part in the interrogations, when you finally got one of the prisoners to break, to lose his defiance, to tell the "contractors" everything he knew, your superiors praised you for a job well done. And after a while, you even started to enjoy it; it wasn't the power, exactly, so much as a kind of recognition from your peers: an esprit de corps that kept you going, when you were cut off from home and family; and an acceptance as one of the guys, which was something you had always wanted, proving yourself as their equal even though they originally looked down on you because you were a girl. In a funny way, it was also something that brought you and your boyfriend together more: not that you got off on what you were doing, exactly, but it was a kind of complicity, and a way in which the two of you could feel that you were triumphant, standing together against -- and in spite of -- everything else, and everyone else in the world. And it must have been in one of those moments that your boyfriend took those photos: of you grinning and giving thumbs up, and pointing at the genitalia of a naked, abject prisoner; or of you grinning and holding one of those poor fuckers by a leash, as if he were a disobedient dog. And now those pictures have been published, and you are the most infamous woman in the world; and they're going to throw the book at you, and basically you have no future and no hope. But of course somebody has to take the fall; and of course it will never be the people who imagined it, who organized it, who trained you in it, who told you to do it, and whose dreams of conquering and looting the world you were never really privy to. They can't be blamed, so it has to be somebody like you, who was poor and without prospects to begin with. No matter how deeply you felt that esprit de corps, you never were a member of that elite, and you never would be; you were expendable from the beginning, and your life is the price our rulers are happily willing to pay, as they pursue their program of conquest and domination. Posted by shaviro at 12:29 AM | http://www.shaviro.com/Blog/ -- Andrew. http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:49:39 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harriet Zinnes Subject: Re: Sympathy for Lynndie England MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Andrew Loewen Oh oh oh, you have summed up our Iraqi war Difficult to read, difficult to endure. Harriet Zinnes ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:50:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Re: Sympathy for Lynndie England MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And to add: And when the latest oppression became too much, to quickly get pregnant, a method of "escape" learned in your hometown by so many others like you so many cycles before. Only, you were too naive, believing a leniency would be extended. You will give birth in a prison. The child will be taken away. The rulers who used you like toilets paper don't care. Gerald Schwartz > Sympathy for Lynndie England > > You were never prepared for this. You never expected > it. You grew up poor, in one of the poorest parts of > the United States. You were something of a tomboy, but > a good sort of person -- you got along with folks, and > they tended to like you. You were impulsive, sometimes > -- marrying on a whim at age 18, only to divorce the > guy a year or so later -- but never nasty or vicious. > You joined the Army Reserve, mostly, because it seemed > to offer money and opportunities you couldn't get any > other way. You hoped it would allow you to save up for > college, and give you some of the skills you'd need in > order to get in. > But you never expected you'd be called up to active > duty, and sent to Iraq: a country far away, hotter > than Hell, and filled with people who we were supposed > to have freed from tyranny: you were told that these > people would love you, but it seemed that they mostly > resented you, in a sullen sort of way; aside, that is, > from the ones who actively hated you and tried to kill > you. > You were trained as much to be a bureaucrat as a > soldier: your job was to sit behind a desk and process > the papers of Iraqi detainees. But once you were > actually working at the Abu Ghraib prison, you found > that a lot more was expected of you. > The higher-ups (both military officers whom you were > supposed to obey, and private "contractors" who you > were told you should also obey) wanted "information" > from the detainees, and they wanted you to help them > get it. There were various interrogation techniques > they taught you: depriving the prisoners of sleep, > stripping them naked and humiliating them sexually, > putting hoods over their heads and subjecting them to > mild electric shocks; and of course, threatening them > with physical violence, and sometimes carrying through > on the threats, for the sake of credibility. > It was weird at first; you had never, in your wildest > dreams, imagined doing these sorts of things to > anyone. But these prisoners really hated and resented > you; you knew they'd kill you if they could, if the > positions were reversed. So it wasn't that hard to > think of them as less than human; especially since > your superiors encouraged you to think this way, > encouraged you to be relentless, not to let the > fuckers get away with anything, pry their secrets > loose from them before more Americans, more of your > buddies, were killed. And when you did your part in > the interrogations, when you finally got one of the > prisoners to break, to lose his defiance, to tell the > "contractors" everything he knew, your superiors > praised you for a job well done. > And after a while, you even started to enjoy it; it > wasn't the power, exactly, so much as a kind of > recognition from your peers: an esprit de corps that > kept you going, when you were cut off from home and > family; and an acceptance as one of the guys, which > was something you had always wanted, proving yourself > as their equal even though they originally looked down > on you because you were a girl. In a funny way, it was > also something that brought you and your boyfriend > together more: not that you got off on what you were > doing, exactly, but it was a kind of complicity, and a > way in which the two of you could feel that you were > triumphant, standing together against -- and in spite > of -- everything else, and everyone else in the world. > > And it must have been in one of those moments that > your boyfriend took those photos: of you grinning and > giving thumbs up, and pointing at the genitalia of a > naked, abject prisoner; or of you grinning and holding > one of those poor fuckers by a leash, as if he were a > disobedient dog. > And now those pictures have been published, and you > are the most infamous woman in the world; and they're > going to throw the book at you, and basically you have > no future and no hope. But of course somebody has to > take the fall; and of course it will never be the > people who imagined it, who organized it, who trained > you in it, who told you to do it, and whose dreams of > conquering and looting the world you were never really > privy to. They can't be blamed, so it has to be > somebody like you, who was poor and without prospects > to begin with. No matter how deeply you felt that > esprit de corps, you never were a member of that > elite, and you never would be; you were expendable > from the beginning, and your life is the price our > rulers are happily willing to pay, as they pursue > their program of conquest and domination. > > Posted by shaviro at 12:29 AM | > http://www.shaviro.com/Blog/ > > -- > Andrew. > http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 17:00:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Invitation. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Why not stop in at The Personified Third and leave a chestnut in the unsung Haloscanner? (Recent items: excerpts from various projects, some pre-situ (Lettrist) nuggets from Guy Debord--"To Have Done With the Comforts of Nihilism--and Alfred North Whitehead and Gertrude Stein speak from the beyond). . . . Even when we are beaten we see ourselves getting beaten. But this is nitpicking. . . -- Andrew. http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 18:02:58 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Henry A. Lazer" Subject: Elegies & Vacations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Salt Publishing is pleased to announce the publication of Elegies and Vacations by Hank Lazer. About the book: A book of intense emotional power, ‘Elegies & Vacations’ marks Hank Lazer’s taking the resources of innovative poetry in new directions that are at once elegiac, skeptical, and spiritual. Eleven poems, no two alike, ‘Elegies & Vacations’ is an ambitious attempt, in the words of Robert Duncan, “to recreate the heart of poetry itself.” Linking elegies to extended journal-like meditations, ‘Elegies & Vacations’ asks “what the day may mean.” At the heart of the book is a long poem, “Deathwatch for My Father,” which tracks the poet’s father’s final months, testing out the capacities of innovative poetry in the face of the death of a loved one. The book explores relationships with the dead—from the poet’s father, to John Cage, to Kenneth Burke, to George Oppen—while also, through family vacations, projecting forward to ask “to what are we ancestral.” The opposed or apposed guiding lights of the book—John Ashbery and George Oppen—like the juxtaposed elegies and vacations, offer divergent modes of verbal and ethical grace. Informed by a Buddhist sensibility, as well as by the relativistic thinking of reform (and mystical) Judaism, Lazer’s poems move through varying terrains of form, textuality, and geography, from Suzhou (China) to the Abacos (the Bahamas), from Diamond Head (Oahu) to Orono (Maine), from an extended portrait to a journal, from children’s stories to a two-columned composition on the nature of literary history. About the author: Elegies & Vacations, Hank Lazer’s eleventh book of poetry, is Lazer’s fourth large collection of poetry, following Days (Lavender Ink, 2002), 3 of 10 (Chax Press, 1996), and Doublespace: Poems 1971-1989 (Segue, 1992). A noted critic, Lazer’s two-volume Opposing Poetries (Northwestern University Press) appeared in 1996. With Charles Bernstein, Lazer edits the Modern and Contemporary Poetics Series for the University of Alabama, where Lazer is Assistant Vice President and Professor of English. Table of Contents: “to what are we ancestral” Portrait Every Now & Then For John Cage Deathwatch for My Father that pantheon The Abacos Work Ups This One Diamond Head Sunyata Sonata Availability: Elegies and Vacations (ISBN 1844710084) is available through Small Press Distribution (www.spdbooks.com ), through Salt Publishing’s website (www.saltpublishing.com ) or through local bookstores at US$15.95 / GB£9.95. -- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:14:26 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Taylor Subject: Matt Reiter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He's back! Matt Reiter is once again featured on the SpiralBridge web site, take a look at what he's writing now... http://www.spiralbridge.org/home.asp Maybe it's time for you to consider sending in your submissions to SpiralBridge... http://www.spiralbridge.org/projects.asp Enjoy your days. -Jesse Taylor ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:43:52 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: HEADCODE [internet remix edition] (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:40:24 +0900 From: kenjisiratori.com To: Alan Sondheim Subject: HEADCODE [internet remix edition] HEADCODE [internet remix edition] by Kenji Siratori http://www.kenjisiratori.com Rave on to the nerve cells DNA=channel of the cadaver feti=streaming_brain universe that compressed the technojunkies' acidHUMANIX infection 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Comments: cc: "J. Scappettone" , linda norton Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Wow! (from The Independent - London) Poll shows majority want UK troops to pull out By Nigel Morris 10 May 2004 Independent/MOP poll Should British troops pull out of Iraq by 30th June? 55 per cent: YES 28 per cent: NO 17 per cent: DON'T KNOW Voters support the withdrawal of all British troops from Iraq by the end of next month by a majority of two to one, a poll for The Independent reveals today. With ministers considering sending more soldiers to Iraq to quell the insurrection against Allied forces, the survey reflects growing public discontent about government policy on the war and occupation. The poll comes at a turbulent time for the Government, rocked by allegations over the mistreatment of Iraqi captives. Yesterday, in a further embarrassment for Britain and America, it emerged that their ambassadors to Switzerland had been summoned by the Swiss government to demand respect for international law in the treatment of prisoners in Iraq. Acting as the guardian of the Geneva Conventions on the conduct of warfare, the Swiss Foreign Minister, Micheline Calmy-Rey, said she felt "abhorrence and rage" over the disclosures of prisoner abuse. She told the SonntagsBlick weekly: "It violates international humanitarian law. I am very concerned. These are occurrences that we cannot keep silent about." ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 02:26:21 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit o philo so pher the first rose... #:00...it raineth every day...rn.. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:12:57 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: Silliman's Blog Comments: To: WOM-PO , BRITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, nanders1@swarthmore.edu, new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, whpoets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT TOPICS: The Boise Renaissance: Catherine Wagner's Macular Hole -- When Jack Spicer meets Sylvia Plath The Philadelphia Progressive Poetry Calendar John Taggart's Pastorelles - "roots work" from a master The infinite divisibility of a notebook in a pocket in a washing machine Tom Orange on the richness of post-avant poetics & the problems of for whom to write & who to read Mytili Jagannathan on the "ransom of unkept things" (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) B as in Baseball: Bob Perelman (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) Performing punctuation by hand - Susan Stewart (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) A rock lyric from Paul Muldoon (from the Rosenbach Alphabet) The alphabet as leveler or as mode of permission - the implications of the Rosenbach Alphabet http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:36:10 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bonnie Jones Subject: Rod Smith Reading in Baltimore 5/23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Come celebrate innovative poetry at the first events of the 2004 Bay Area S= ummer Poetry Marathon: SATURDAY, MAY 29=20 at The Lab, 2948 16th Street, San Francisco =20 (16th & Mission BART stop: one block east on 16th) $4 - $15 sliding scale admission AFTERNOON =09=09 12 noon =E2=80=93 4pm Taylor Brady, Gillian Connoley, Brent Cunningham, Maria Damon, Susan Gevirt= z, Kristen Hanlon, John Isles, Wendy Kramer, Camille Roy EVENING=09=09 6:30pm =E2=80=93 9:30 pm Betsy Davids, Trane DeVore, kari edwards, Barbara Guest, Kevin Killian, Aar= on Shurin, Carol Snow Kate Colby http://www.thelab.org/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:53:00 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Hockey Hazing, Iraqui Style MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hockey hazing, Iraqi style By LAURA ROBINSON Laura Robinson, former national-level skier and cyclist, is author of Crossing the Line: Violence and Sexual Assault in Canada's National Sport (1998) and, most recently, Black Tights: Women, Sport and Sexuality. UPDATED AT 12:19 PM EDT Monday, May. 10, 2004 There is nothing surprising about the charges of prisoner abuse by American soldiers in Iraq given the hyper-masculine culture of the U.S. military. In fact, abuse is predictable in any group that defines masculinity through power, strength and aggression. That female soldiers took part is also predictable. To prove they are "one of the boys" in this subculture, women must push the envelope of disgust further than the men would. The brutal sadomasochistic acts themselves are hardly original. They are strongly reminiscent of the initiation rites some soldiers themselves report taking place at the start of their military service. The truth is, they also bear a striking resemblance to what junior and NHL hockey players have told me formed part of their own initiations in playing hockey in this country. The photo released this week of stripped prisoners who had been forced to pile on top of one another as if they were having oral sex shocked most people. But it reminded me of the dozens of junior hockey players who told me about something they all called the sweatbox. This is the tiny washroom at the back of the bus in which the teams travel. On many teams, it was required for all rookies, at one time or another, to be stripped and forced into the sweatbox, only to be taken out one at a time for more abuse. One player, who went on to play in the NHL, told me rookies sometimes had to walk down the aisle of the bus naked, with their hands behind their heads, while senior players could use any object they wanted -- cassette cases, coat hangers, whatever -- to beat their genitals. He said he was a pretty quiet guy, and wasn't beaten badly, but one player, who was considered rather mouthy, was beaten until he bled. All the while, the coach sat at the front of the bus and laughed. That coach is now in the NHL. Reading of Iraqi prisoners being sodomized with a chemical light stick or a broomstick reminded me of the countless numbers of junior players who told me about the favourite instruments in hockey for sodomizing: a tube of liniment or a hockey stick. The similarity between military hazing and hockey initiation became clear to me when I was researching Crossing the Line. It continues to be supported by further testimony. At a recent conference on sport, three men described the abuse they had encountered in the U.S. military. Another disclosed the abuse he suffered in junior hockey. There was little difference. The former hockey player added that his son, who played on a U.S. hockey scholarship, dealt with the risk of being abused by taking steroids to become one of the biggest and, he hoped, most feared players on his team. For me, junior or NHL hockey teams and military units long ago became interchangeable. The behaviour both exhibit is the logical progression of an ideology that equates real men with violence. If women want to be real men, they have to do it, too, and the violence will ultimately turn sexual because of the gendered nature of defining power through masculinity in the first place. No one likes to talk about the brutal hazing that young soldiers endure, nor about the macho attitudes that gave rise to the abuse of Iraqi prisoners. Certainly, few people have bothered to investigate the connection. Unfortunately, I found the same thing in Canadian hockey. Deeply entrenched and sick behaviour has gone unchallenged and uninvestigated for years. It may be reassuring for Canadians to know that our national symbol is a hockey player and not a soldier, but whether a human being is a first-year junior player or a prisoner of war, there is little difference between hockey sticks and broomsticks. Laura Robinson, former national-level skier and cyclist, is author of Crossing the Line: Violence and Sexual Assault in Canada's National Sport (1998) and, most recently, Black Tights: Women, Sport and Sexuality. Globe and Mail http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040510/COLAURA10/TPComment/TopStories -- --------------------------- Newfoundland Tories put culture in a COMA http://www.donotpadlocktherooms.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:36:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mairead Byrne Subject: Re: "EDA: AN ANTHOLOGY OF CONTEMPORARY TURKISH POETRY" IS OUT - READING Comments: To: MuratNN@AOL.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Congratulations Murat. Mairead >>> MuratNN@AOL.COM 05/08/04 07:23 AM >>> Poetry Project has selected readings from the anthology on Wednesday, May 12. Here are details and a passage from the introduction to the book: Istanbul, Eda, and Sufism: An Evening of Poetry Co-presented by The Poetry Project, Stevens Institute of Technology, Beykent University, and Talisman Books Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:00 pm The Poetry Project at St. Mark's Church 131 East 10th Street (at Second Avenue) New York, NY 10003 Participants Jordan Davies Maggie Dubris Ed Foster (publisher) Nada Gordon Murat Nemet-Nejat (editor and translator) Simon Pettet Gary Sullivan Mustafa Ziyalan "As much as a collection of translations of poems and essays, this book is a translation of a language. Due to the fortuitous convergence of historical, linguistic and geographic factors, in the 20th century -from the creation of the Turkish Republic in the 1920's to the 1990's when Istanbul/Constantinople/Byzantium turned from a jewel-like city of contrasts of under a million to a city of twelve million- Turkey created a body of poetry unique in the 20th century, with its own poetics, world view and idiosyncratic sensibility. What is more these qualities are intimately related to the nature of Turkish as a language -its strengths and its defining limits. As historical changes occurred, the language in this poetry responded to them, flowered, changed; but always remaining a continuum, a psychic essence, a dialectic which is an arabesque. It is this silent melody of the mind -the cadence of its total allure- which this collection tries to translate. While every effort has been made to create the individual music of each poem and poet, none can really be understood without responding to the movement running through them, through Turkish in the 20th century. I call this essence eda, each poet, poem being a specific case of eda, unique stations in the progress of the Turkish soul, language. " Murat Nemet-Nejat ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:01:15 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Young Boston poets?? Comments: cc: Greg Albers Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Can anybody suggest sites or places where a young writer can get a sense of who, where and the writing of young poets in Boston. This occasional 'network provider' thanks you for any information provided. Thanks, Stephen Vincent http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:04:38 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Shi'ites Take Huge Chunk of Baghdad While U.S. Military Continues Sex Romp Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press Shi'ites Take Huge Chunk of Baghdad While U.S. Military Continues Sex Romp With Iraqi Prisoners: In U.S., Prisoner Sex Sells While Al-Jazeera, which U.S. brands an enemy, has not given prison scandal as much play: U.S. Votes Itself "World's Most Self-Righteous MotherFuckers" Again: Tom DeLay Protests Flood Of Gay Marriages Between U.S. Forces And Iraqi Prisoners: Rupert Murdoch: "Military Sexual Inyourendo Great For Ratings." William Kristol: "U.S. Torturers Childish; My Children Are Constantly Stripping Other People And Leading Them Around On A Leash." by Ben Gray They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:14:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Machlin Subject: FUTUREPOEM OPEN READING PERIOD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FUTUREPOEM BOOKS OPEN READING PERIOD The next open reading period for Futurepoem books will be held during=20 the month of September 2004. Manuscripts must be postmarked during the=20= month of September 2004 to be considered for publication in Fall/Winter=20= 2005/Spring 2006. Editors for this reading period will be Ammiel=20 Alcalay, Jen Hofer, Prageeta Sharma and Dan Machlin. Futurepoem is interested in receiving unpublished book-length works of=20= innovative poetry, shorter prose, as well as hybrid works of=20 literature. For the open call, we cannot currently consider works in=20 translation. Manuscripts that include work previously published in=20 limited-edition chapbooks are acceptable. We will consider non-U.S.=20 work written in English. Out of kindness to our volunteer editors, we=20 ask that each person submit only one manuscript. Please enclose three (3) copies of your manuscript to: Futurepoem books P.O. Box 34 NY, NY 10014 USA Please enclose an self-addressed envelope with proper postage if you=20 would like to be notified of eventual selections and a SASE postcard if=20= you would like to be informed of manuscript receipt. Sorry, we cannot=20 return manuscripts (but will recycle all) so please do not enclose an=20 envelope for manuscript return. Publication decisions will be announced=20= by end of March 2005.=00 Questions to: submissions@futurepoem.com More information at http://www.futurepoem.com Titles: Mad Science in Imperial China, Shanxing Wang (spring 2005) Near Life Experiences, Michael Ives (fall/winter 2004/05) Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Merry Fortune (spring=20 2004) The Escape, Jo Ann Wasserman (fall/winter 2003) Under the Sun, Rachel Levitsky (spring 2003) Some Mantic Daemons, Garrett Kalleberg (fall/winter 2002) Futurepoem books is supported by your book purchases, words of=20 encouragement, teaching of our books, invitations to well-paying gigs,=20= by individual donations, and supported in party by recent grants from=20 The New York State Council on the Arts Literary Program, The New York=20 Community Trust, The Fund for Poetry and the volunteer efforts of our=20 advisory and editorial board, and other staff. Futurepoem receives tax=20= exempt status for all donations through Fractured Atlas Productions,=20 Inc., NY, NY. We are distributed nationally by SPD books,=20 http://www.spdbooks.org.= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:32:41 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harrison Jeff Subject: the literary mist / empty rain letter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed instant day supple wish conundrum instant day when you'd thought you'd wake up dead and see crisp dirt like bird gloves heard night-white bananas covering them but here you are - reading me! bird gloves! Whitman is up on your shelves somewhere for when this poem cuts out... poe cuts? what a typo! what do you read when your Poe cuts out? this? : cold equine wink more gallop this is a good place to hide a short poem paper things oft dwell on fleshy things fleshy things oft dwell on fleshy things fleshy things oft dwell on paper things paper things oft dwell on paper things ~ V. _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:02:13 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Hadbawnik Subject: Jarnot/Brown at D&D's -- San Francisco, May 16 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You are invited to a Reading at David & Diane’s apartment 695 35th Ave. #204 San Francisco 415.221.4272 enjoy your favorite writers in a cozy environment with refreshments and friends... bring some beer, wine, or a snack* coming up: 11am Sunday, May 16, 2004 *special brunch-time poetry!* ** note: Bay to Breakers is also on Sunday; there will be some street closures; please visit http://www.baytobreakers.com/info/closures.html for more info ** a reading by Lisa Jarnot and Brandon Brown Lisa Jarnot's third collection, Black Dog Songs, is new from Flood Editions. Stan Brakhage writes: "However adrift in linguistic aesthetics, in sheer music-of-rhythmed-sounds, her words are never severed from the means that engendered them; and the consequent meanings are never detached from the meditative drama of each whole poem." Jarnot visits from NYC (she also reads May 14 at Small Press Traffic); her previous works are Some Other Kind of Mission and Ring of Fire. Her critical biography of Robert Duncan will be published by UC Press next year. Brandon Brown is a poet and translator from Kansas City, Missouri. He is currently an MFA candidate at San Francisco State University. His poems have appeared. He lives in San Francisco with one chainsmoking maniac. Directions: Public trans: From downtown San Francisco, take the 38 Geary or the 31 Balboa, and get off at 35th Ave. Driving: drive to 35th and Balboa, park; my building is the big one on the northwest corner of the street. Ring the buzzer for apartment 204. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 18:30:14 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Re: Young Boston poets?? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fenway Park? Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Stephen Vincent > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 2:01 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Young Boston poets?? > > > Can anybody suggest sites or places where a young writer can get > a sense of > who, where and the writing of young poets in Boston. > > This occasional 'network provider' thanks you for any information > provided. > > Thanks, > > Stephen Vincent > http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:58:12 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joseph Bradshaw Subject: Spare Room in Portland: Catherine Daly and Chris Piuma May 16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed SPARE ROOM presents Catherine Daly and Chris Piuma Sunday May 16, 7:30 pm Mountain Writers Center, 3624 SE Milwaukie Ave. Portland, Or Suggested Donation $5 for more information, call the Spare Room Dial-A-Poem line at 503-236-0867 or email spareroom@flim.com And coming soon to a reading series near you: Paul Dutton w/improvising musicians (thanks to Various Artists); John and Roberta Olsen; Nathaniel Tarn & Janet Rodney; the second Spare Room Sound Poetry Festival, Charles Alexander, and more! Summer schedule available soon at www.flim.com/spareroom ====================================================== Catherine Daly attended college in Hartford and graduate school in New York, where she lived on every street from 116th to110th, then moved skip stops down the upper west side. She has worked as a technical architect and an engineer supporting the space shuttle orbiter, and has consulted to investment banks on, among other things, disaster recovery. This, unfortunately, impacts her poetry, which moves beyond the telephone to wireless in the giant book DaDaDa (Salt Publishing, 2003) and the forthcoming love poems, Locket (Tupelo Press, 2004). She lives in Los Angeles. Chris Piuma has edited the online quasi-literary journal flim (flim.com) for many years. His band, the Minor Thirds, played a show in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan not long ago. He has been published in assorted venues, the likes of which you won't soon find elsewhere. He has bought board games in moonlit park entrances from dealers in nondescript green cars. There might be new books and recordings of his poetry. Catherine Daly Two poems from In Media Res Dissolve and Blur ============ Mine / heart free. Your service too constant. Believing in you, draining, retaining nil, abandoning myself, I was your slave, but goodbye, I'm leaving you, thank god. Mine h fffffree. ssssserviccccce conssssstant draining, retaining messssselfffff sssssslave good bye, you, Start Walking ============ Rocks (know how) speak about it. Even rocks beneath my feet do it. speak feet Chris Piuma The Old City ============ Where are the fourteen-year-old girls of my youth? Where are my chariots of desire? Why can't I drink all the Kool-Aid in the house? Who put this here? Why did I do that? When did all these ants start crawling about here? Who did you give the money to? What was I going to tell you? Where were you last night? What should I have told that reporter, then? Who knows what would make you happy. Why did I do all that? When did all these ants learn to make money at home? Who did you crawl off with? _________________________________________________________________ Getting married? Find tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:03:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: para MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII para http://www.asondheim.org/paracite.png one or another comes first unless they are lined up equally the parasite splits in two, no longer noise in the system no longer channel noise no longer channel http://www.asondheim.org/parasight.png the parasite buffets among them the parasite creates a new language of 'buffeting' no one reads the secret language http://www.asondheim.org/flub.png the language is thick and everyone pretends it means something _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:03:47 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Books I like and highly recommend! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Books I like and highly recommend! The following are books I've read or am currently reading, mostly the former. They're wonderful and I think are definitely worth your attention. Two books that bear comparison, both from Salt Catherine Daly, DaDaDa and Loss Pequeno Glazier, Anatman, Pumpkin Seed, Algorithm These are first of all both beautiful books. And they work through technology and technologies in odd ways, ways that configure the integration of the technological into body and poetic discourse, as if spectral communications were phantom limbs or tendrils extending from desktops and PDAs , within and without. Glazier works out of an incredible, intense, Mexican and Cuban (for the most part) matrix, which becomes himself as well. His is an 'important' book within emerging discourses of real and virtual continents. And Daly's work as well, with its internal technologies, technologies as breathing, or as electric Marguerite, mythos, scaled histories. I really recommend these books highly; I found them inspiring and turning language towards infinities both electronic and intensely real. >From Raw Nerve Books Sue Thomas, Hello World, travels in virtuality This is an odd work, a mix of real and imaginary journeys, discoursing on psychogeography, Bachelard, and a broad-based view of the Net along the way. As a mix it's intense and entrancing, and it's demonstrates the ease with which computers, electronic communications, and lives all intertwine beyond the home. This isn't the typical mobile technology journey, but a journey of integration, and it's as such that I highly recommend it. My only concern - and I have no answer for this - how much, today, should one describe the Net and its communications systems? As Katherine Hayles points out on the back cover, the book is 'Highly recommended for first- time users and those who want to try dipping their toes into the cyberwaters.' But for those of us who are familiar with the technologies, the value is elsewhere - following this journey, and Thomas's lived and interpenetrated spaces, across the world. There is an associated website by the way, http://www.travelsinvirtuality.com . (This is by the way a work I wish I could have written, but my own journeys have seemed too monstrous and tangled, too compressed. There's a sense of space in Thomas's book that's both open and comforting.) >From Atelos Brian Kim Stefans, Fashionable Noise: On Digital Poetics, which _is_ more or less digital poetics itself. I love dipping into this work. There's a huge gap between it and Richards' Practical Criticism, but I like them both for their caress of writing, and _fascination_ with their target texts, reproduced among themselves, authorships in question. The Scotch is there in Stefans' work, for example, both real and imaginary. There are numerous sidebars and footnotes as well; the text skitters. This is simply a wonderful book. >From Minnesota comes Anne Weinstone, Avatar Bodies, A Tantra for Posthumanism. I have diffi- culty at this point with theoretical posthumanist texts that discourse on desire; on the other hand, I'm fascinated by the relationships Weinstone draws or breathes with Tantra; it's this which holds me. I don't feel capable of commenting on the text itself at this point, except to note the pleasure it gives, as well as assumptions about multiple selves, virtualities, and our selves avatars. It reminds me of Lingis' work - and in general where is Lingis in cyber discourse? But then I'm ignorant. - I do want to stree that I am reading and rereading sections of this work, scurrying across it, another skittering, and I find the text amazing in this regard. >From O'Reilly One more technology book, which I immediately applied and have been using furiously - Preston Gralla, Windows XP Hacks, part of the Hacking series. This book is simply great - I've applied at least 20-30 of the hacks to my own (video/audio/blender/text) laptop system. I've used other WinXP books to good effect, but this one in particular has been extremely useful. I couldn't have done http://www.asondheim.org/node.mp3 without it. Some older books if you find them - Kossovo, Heroic Songs of the Serbs, translated by Helen Rootham (with the original texts), Houghton Mifflin Company, 1920. This volume focuses on the battle of Kossovo 1389, and the starkness and repetitiveness of the songs have parallels of course with Yugoslavian epics, Homer, etc. These are intense pieces, some of them fragments, and they've already entered my dreams. The only problem with the book is its shortness. Serge Gavronsky, Toward a new Poetics, Contemporary Writing in France, consists of interviews of texts; it's from 1994, and I should have known the work! Authors include Deguy, Gugliemi, Hocquard, even Pleynet. (The last's book on painting is incredible by the way.) Get it if you can. Enough said. In Bhargava's Dictionary, Anglo-Hindi, the definitions are in both English and Hindi, and this is one of the most wonderful sources of words I've come across; the definitions are often beautiful. My edition is the 12th from 1966, and I've been using it regularly. Extersion, act of wiping or rubbing. Tortive, twisted. Airmanship, the art of handling an airship. Gothamite, a great fool. Legge's I Ching - I like this for the endless notes and clarity of the appendices; it's not as poetic as the Wilhelm, but I'm not using the work for divination or poetry. Dover edition. There's a small paperback (Mentor, 1971) edition of the book rearranged with the hexagram names and other minor changes, edited by Raymond van Over; I recommend this as well, especially for clarity. Burton Watson, Records of the Historian, Chapters from the Shih Chi of Ssu-ma Ch'ien, California, and Sima Qian, Historical Records, translated by Dawson, Oxford World's Classic. I can't get enough of this work; the Dawson edition shows why. There are parallels between the Qin and Bush dynasties that are unnerving; hopefully both will last an equally short amount of time. Finally I'm reading the full version of The Pillow Book of Sei Shonagon, translated and edited by Ivan Morris in two volumes (one text, one notes), published in 1967. It's quite different, in fact, due in part to the sections of lists, and I much prefer it. I haven't seen this reissued, but if you have a chance at all, find and read it (i.e. in preference to the Penguin edition). _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:21:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lucas Klein Subject: Re: Books I like and highly recommend! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Burton Watson, Records of the Historian, Chapters from the Shih Chi of > Ssu-ma Ch'ien, California, and Sima Qian, Historical Records, translated > by Dawson, Oxford World's Classic. I can't get enough of this work; the > Dawson edition shows why. There are parallels between the Qin and Bush > dynasties that are unnerving; hopefully both will last an equally short > amount of time. Even sixteen years is too much time in the Bushes. Lucas ________________________________________ "The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." --George Orwell Lucas Klein LKlein@cipherjournal.com 11 Pearl Street New Haven, CT 06511 ph: 203 676 0629 www.CipherJournal.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:43:53 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Niedecker / War Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Spring stood there all body Head blown off (war) showed up downstream... *** From Homemade/Handmade Poems by Lorine Niedecker And "downstream" it is, these prisons, ("Iraq") This practice of torture, an American "divined" policy, dogs in mid-bite, caught in the act, The soul of the country "caught in the act" - An ideology, "democracy, beacon of light", Its head "blown off", "caught in the act" , A top down, uniform policy, "loosen, soften them up" There are no "innocent bystanders," "teeth marks and bleeding" We are not, "spring and all", This horrible shit, sunk into it, way bad - Johnny and Jane Better come marching home, Whimpering: Time, very much the time, to take the teeth Promptly out: Wofolitz, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Feith, Perle, Bush Time, imperative: pull them, take them quickly: They are all extraordinarily dangerous, criminal. Take them, throw them, as fast as possible, All the way out. There is no, absolutely no credibility (moral or otherwise, if there ever was) for us, "head/ Blown off" to remain, do anything, in or for, Iraq. i.e. Read, if you haven't, all the prison articles, Red Cross reports, etc., sign all those petitions to remove x, y & z, and call Senators and Congressperson "to heed the call." Stephen Vincent Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:27:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bonnie Jones Subject: SORRY Rod Smith Reading 5/23 Baltimore MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow.. sorry about that last post. That was one fantastically messed up announcement. Let's try this? Sunday, May 23, 2004 8.30 pm $6 (suggested donation for artists) Please join CHELA for a very special evening - music, words, and .... homemade tamales and sangria. FEATURING: SEAN MEEHAN- New York (percussion) & JOHN DIERKER - Baltimore (horns/reeds) ROD SMITH- DC (words) The evening will begin with collaborations by Baltimore writers. SEAN MEEHAN: Sean Meehan became musically active in the late 80's at the Amica Bunker Series for improvised music which was then housed at ABC No Rio in New York City. Current performances generally find Meehan playing only the snare drum in a manner that sheds conventional usage and reconstructs the conception and function of the instrument. Concert activities, both at home and away, are generally divided between playing in conventional settings for experimental music and in seeking out unique locations that are often in the unwatched and unconsidered corners of the city. Meehan's recordings document some of his collaborations including work with Sachiko M; Mamoru Fujieda and Michihiro Sato; Edwin Torres and Miguel Algarin; and Tamio Shiraishi. JOHN DIERKER: Since the mid-eighties JOHN DIERKER has been forging new ground from his hometown Baltimore, MD. A highly versatile musician who plays with equal inspiration in the most extreme avant-garde, R & B, jazz, and rock music. Some of Dierker's current projects included, Lafayette Gilchrist and the New Volcanoes, and ilculo. He can be heard on a large number of recordings on Megaphone, Generate Records, and Mass Particles. Dierker has worked with a diverse group of musicians including, Vattel Cherry, John Hughes, Paul Hoskin, Sean Meehan, Toshi Makihara, Bob Wagner, and Jason Willett. ROD SMITH: Rod Smith was born in Gallipolis, Ohio in 1962 and grew up in Northern Virginia where he attended Stonewall Jackson High School. His first publication of poetry was a Ferlinghetti imitation in the Baltimore Sun in 1982. In the early 80s Smith was a rural carrier for the US Postal Service in the vicinity of the Manassas Battlefield, during which time he studied Pound, Stein, Williams, Ashbery, O'Hara, Oppen, and others. He began the journal Aerial with Wayne Kline in 1984 and published the first Edge Book in 1989. He moved to DC in 1987 and became part of the DC poetry community. He currently manages Bridge Street Books in DC and presents a monthly reading series. Previous readers include: Bruce Andrews, Rae Armantrout, Anselm Berrigan, Lee Ann Brown, Norma Cole, Tim Davis, Peter Gizzi, Carla Harryman, Lyn Hejinian, Lisa Jarnot, Melanie Neilson, Alice Notley, Lisa Robertson, David Shapiro, Juliana Spahr, Edwin Torres, and Rosmarie Waldrop. >>>>>>>>>>>> brave new art in all forms www.chelagallery.org chelabaltimore@yahoo.com CHELA 3500 Boston Street, #210 Baltimore, MD 21224 443 983 5575 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:48:56 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: elen gebreab Subject: had to share: arsenal pulp press, vancouver, canada MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just got the new catalogue for Arsenal Pulp Press. Absolutely fabulous. Definitely check it out -- anthologies on Black British Columbian queer writings to Southeast Asian erotica to the "femme" as queering concept to science fiction writing by Aboriginies, Africans, Indians, Asians, etc. A very eclectic list. Go here: http://arsenalpulp.com And do pass along. Teachers get a 20% discount on exam copies! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:52:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: elen gebreab Subject: CFS: Arsenal Pulp's Red Light: Superheroes, Saints, and Sluts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This one's good: http://www.arsenalpulp.com/redlight.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 01:38:19 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mico wave pop corn add oil salt a few unpopped kernels at bottom\ of bowl... #:00 plus..violent thunderstorm..too many words...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 02:45:14 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit r (r) r: r- r r r r 3:00...rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....drn... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:50:13 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: terrie relf Subject: Re: Arsenal Pulp's Red Light: Superheroes, Saints, and Sluts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you--it looks exceptional...I do believe I'll concoct something... Ter > This one's good: > > http://www.arsenalpulp.com/redlight.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:30:34 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lewis LaCook Subject: What are you looking at? Comments: To: cyberculture , list@netbehaviour.org, underground poetry , naked readings , rhizome , screenburn screenburn , X Stream , webartery , wryting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Remember those dark days in which love lay coiled along the coccyx, and your only instrument was a sex not nutritious, but pensive, padding along the walls of your room like the vampire desire becomes? However diligent the drug, the properties of thaw remain unchanged, and you get hot flashes slipping such long hair to earth that earth is covered, so don't even think about it: relax. Forget all the bullshit associations intrinsic to your relations. I scream every summer, watching wasps build nests in all your corners. ===== *************************************************************************** This is as useful as a doll.--Gertrude Stein http://www.lewislacook.com/ Stamen Pistol: http://stamenpistol.blogspot.com/ Poem of the Day: http://www.lewislacook.com/POD Sidereality: http://www.sidereality.com/ tubulence artist studio: http://turbulence.org/studios/lacook/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 07:58:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Shankar, Ravi (English)" Subject: Book Launch at Asia Society in NYC, 5/20/04, 6:30 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please join us to celebrate the book launches of Tina Chang, Prageeta = Sharma, and Ravi Shankar! See the link below for more information.=20 Book Party=0D=0DTina Chang =0D=0DPrageeta Sharma =0D=0DRavi Shankar = =0D=0D =0D=0DCelebrate =0D=0DHalf-Lit Houses =0D=0DInstrumentality = =0D=0DThe Opening Question =0D=0D=0DReadings, book signing & libation. = Thursday, May 20th, 6:30pm. =0D=0DAsia Society, 725 Park Avenue at 70th = Street. =0D=0DFor tickets call = 212-517-ASIA.=0D=0Dhttp://www.asiasociety.org/events/calendar.pl?rm=3Ddet= ail&eventid=3D14590&date=3D5%2F10%2F04&filter_region=3D0&filter_category=3D= 0&keywords=3D *************** Ravi Shankar=20 Poet-in-Residence Assistant Professor CCSU - English Dept. 860-832-2766 shankarr@ccsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:41:30 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sina Queyras Subject: trish salah MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. I'm forwarding this on behalf of Trish.=20 Best,=20 Sina >> Hey Folks, Over the next few weeks I'll be giving a number of readings at varied and glamourous locations. Please come out and check out the show(s), and pass this invite along to your friends and lists. Thanks muchly, Trish *** Trish Salah's "On the Road to Nashville" Tour Tuesday, May 11: MONTREAL A night of poetry in concert with the Anarchist Book Fair and the Festival of Anarchy Featuring anarchist and anti-authoritarian poets: Christian Brouillard, Trish Salah, Ivy, Kaie Kellough, Fortner Anderson, Norman Nawrocki and more! Where: Cafe la Petite Gaule, 2525 Centre (Metro Charlevoix) When: 7:30pm in English and French. Info: nawrocki@ca.inter.net Thursday, May 13: BOSTON GENDERCRASH where you can be treated like a Rock Star! For least 3 minutes... With Features: Talia Kingsbury author of Origin/Destino, a chapbook of poetry, published through Kings Crossing Press. S/he has been performing drag as Mani/Manuel Hung for two years, and creating and performing spoken word for even longer. A kinky genderqueer Chicana with anarchist leanings, uses radical performance to effect social change. Find out more at www.taliakingsbury.com. Trish Salah, author of Wanting in Arabic, a collection of poems exploring transsexual poetics and queer/arab identity, feminist, trans and anti-imperialist social movements. Open mic for poets/spoken wordsters/literary geeks/journal writers/queers/transgender/gender queers Where: 45 Danforth St, Jamaica Plain (orange line, stony brook stop) When: 7:30pm $5-10 at the door Info: butchdykeboy@aol.com Tuesday, May 18: PHILADELPHIA GIOVANNI'S ROOM, America's World-Class Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender Bookstore Trish Salah reading from Wanting in Arabic Where: 345 South 12th Street (at 12th & Pine Sts in Center City) When: 7:00pm FREE Tuesday, May 25: NEW YORK BLUESTOCKINGS Women's Poetry Jam & open mike Where: The Lower East Side, 172 Allen Street between Stanton & Rivington (1 block south of Houston and 1st ave) When: 7:00pm $3-$5 sliding scale donation Friday, May 28-30: NASHVILLE THE SLAYAGE CONFERENCE ON BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Trish Salah speaking on "(un)Consciousness Raising with the Undead? The Uncanny Pedagogy of Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Where: Renaissance Hotel, Nashville, TN, USA Exact time: available on request *** "Trish Salah's poetic sequence is not simply a narrative of gender change; it's a wandering, thoughtful text, one both fierce and tremulous. It moves through nation and race, sexual desire, gender and the body's physical presence, in a frank and curious way, always dwelling, always opening." - Erin Moure For more info on Wanting in Arabic check out these online reviews: http://www.canlit.ca/reviews/unassigned/5932_Robi nson.html http://www.prairiefire.mb.ca/reviews/salah_t.html http://www.xtra.ca/site/toronto2/arch/body1269.sh tm For more tour details, or just to be in touch, email me at trishsalah@yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:50:59 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Kelleher Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mike Kelleher Organization: Just Buffalo Literary Center Subject: JUST BUFFALO E-NEWSLETTER 5-10-04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SIGNED, LIMITED EDITION ROBERT CREELEY BROADSIDE AVAILABLE As part of the spring membership campaign, Just Buffalo is offering a special membership gift to the first fifty people who join at a level of $50 or more after May 1. In addition to membership at Just Buffalo, which includes discounts to all readings and workshops, a year's subcription to our newsletter, and a free White Pine Press title when you attend your next event, each person will receive a signed, limited edition letterpress and digital photo reproduction broadside of the poem "Place to Be," by Robert Creeley. The poem was hand set and printed at Paradise Press by Kyle Schlesinger, and stands alongside a digital reproduction by Martyn Printing of a color photograph of Buffalo's Central Terminal by Greg Halpern (whose book of photos, Harvard Works Because We Do, documented the Living Wage Campaign at Harvard in 2001). Send check or money order to the address at the bottom of this email, or call us at 832-5400 to use your credit card. IN THE HIBISCUS ROOM WORLD OF VOICES Thanks to a grant from the John R. Oishei Foundation, Just Buffalo and White Pine Press are able to bring four White Pine authors per year to Buffalo for Writer Residencies. During a week in Buffalo, each will do an in-depth school residency, make visits to local schools, and do community readings and talks. Books and on-line study guides will be available for local schools and libraries in advance of the author's visit. Author Susan Rich will peform a residency from May 10-14. Winner of the PEN West Poetry Award and the Peace Corps Writers Poetry Award for The Cartographer's Tongue: Poems of the World; published by White Pine Press, Susan Rich has worked as a staff person for Amnesty International, an electoral supervisor in Bosnia, and a human rights trainer in Gaza. Monday, May 10, 7-9 P.M. FREE Writing Workshop. Poems of the World: Possibilities and Pitfalls. This workshop will ask the question: How can a writer write about experiences in different cultures, be they in other countries, or simply in other parts of one's own city, without exploiting the very people about whom one is writing? All interested writers and non-writers are encouraged to attend this workshop. Co-sponsored by the Western New York Peace Center. Thursday, May 13, 7:30 p.m. Free. Visions For A Better World: Reading by Susan Rich and Writing Workshop Participants. Participants in the Monday workshop, as well as students from area schools involved in World of Voices, will have the opportunity to read the work they produced during the workshops. Followed by a reading by Susan Rich. Co-sponsored by the Western New York Peace Center. JUST ADDED: JUNKYARD BOOKS' LOWDOWN HIGHWAY TOUR Featuring Queer Spoken Word Artists Cooper Lee Bombardier and Len Plass, also featuring local queer writers and spoken word artists, including the one and only David Butler Wednesday, June 2, 8 p.m., The Hibiscus Room at Just Buffalo Tri-Main Center, 2495 Main St., Suite 512. Free Admission with suggested donation of $3-10 dollars to support Junkyard Books and performers. The Show is a multimedia performance involving spoken word, slides and ,music. Local artists are encouraged to join us as headliners or opening acts. Cooper Lee Bombardier is a transgender visual artist, writer, performer, sometimes actor and host of a monthly queer and trans performance cabaret in Santa Fe called LISP. Cooper has performed and shown visual art extensively in the Bay Area, and has performed across the country both with Sister Spit and by himself. He has spoken on panels of artists at events such as Hampshire College's Art And Social Change Conference in 2001, and was a featured artist in the 2001 National Queer Arts Festival. Len Plass grew from a sprout indifferent areas of Connecticut. She moved to Massachusetts in 1996 and, for a brief stint, attended Boston's Emerson College where she began performing spoken word. She then moved west, eventually to San Francisco where she owned and ran the Bearded Lady Cafe from 1999 until its closing in 2001. That same year, she co-founded Junkyard Books and is published in their debut anthology, Lowdown Highway. WORKSHOPS ANNOUNCING A SUMMER WORKSHOP WITH POET JORGE GUITART WORKSHOP ON EXPERIMENTAL POETRY 4 Saturdays July 10, 17, 24, and 31, 10 a.m -12 p.m. in The Hibiscus Room at Just Buffalo $100, $90 members, individual classes $30, $25 members If you are tired of the trite and expected in the poetry of others or your own, try your hand at playing with language in a serious, organized way. Let randomness and unusual combinatory procedures get you started in creating lines that no one could possibly have uttered or written before. Bring poetry back to being a most unusual collocation of words. Let the poem write you instead of the other way. Embark on the pleasures of intertextuality, stealing from famous texts and subverting their intentions. You will be introduced to techniques that will help you create hundreds if not thousands of amazing poems in a relatively short time. Jorge Guitart teaches in the Department of Romance Languages and Literatures at UB. He has been a member of JBLC Writers in Education since 1984 and has led poetry workshops in Buffalo public schools. He is the author of Foreigner's Notebook (Shuffaloff 1993) and Film Blanc (Meow Press 1996). He is represented at UB's Electronic Poetic Center. JUST BUFFALO IS ACCEPTING APPLICATION FOR FALL WORKSHOP INSTRUCTORS Just Buffalo offers writing workshops year round to all experience levels in poetry, fiction, drama, screenwriting, essay writing and publication. We are looking for published writers to teach workshops in the Fall of 2004. Courses can be single day courses, or they can meet once a week for two, four, six or eight weeks. They can meet evenings during the week or Saturday mornings. Please send a cover letter, resume, and course description to Workshop Application, Just Buffalo Literary Center, 2495 Main St., Ste 512, Buffalo, NY 14214 or email it to Mike Kelleher at mjk@justbuffalo.org. NEW ON OUR WEBSITE EDUCATION links are up. There are now several hundred education links, including writing resources for young writers, teachers, teaching artists, and parents, as well as links to Arts in Education organizations nationwide. Visit http://www.justbuffalo.org. If you would like to add or suggest links, please send along name of the organization, url, and 25 word description of the site to Mike Kelleher at mjk@justbuffalo.org. SPOKEN ARTS RADIO W/ Mary Van Vorst 6:35 and 8:35 a.m. Thursdays and 8:35 a.m. Sundays on WBFO 88.7 FM May 27 & 30 ERIC GANSWORTH (Author of Smoke Dancing) June 3 & 6 N'Tare Ali Gault (Editor of Njozi Magazine) _______________________________ Mike Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center 2495 Main St., Ste. 512 Buffalo, NY 14214 716.832.5400 716.832.5710 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk@justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:35:09 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: J Kimball Subject: young Boston Poets Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Stephen Vincent sent a note asking about younger poets in Boston. There's a slew of them. Can't say I know everyone, and I'm leaving out some perpetual kids like Garrit Lansing, but here goes. Depending on your cut-off for "young," you might start with senior youth, Daniel Bouchard who co-edits "The Poker" and Jimmy Behrle who is perhaps a little more famous than others thanks to his NPR stints, fantastic curating at Wordsworth Books and prodigious blogging. Add their buddies Mark Lamoureux and Mike County -- both have had a couple of books released this last year -- and Sean Cole whose "Itty City" has just been published. Tim Peterson has lived in Boston for more than four seasons, so we can call him a townie now; his "Cumulus" came out last year, from Portable Press, and ranks as one of the most benignly caustic set of lyrics I've read in some time. Lamoureux and Peterson appear in the now-definitive young Bostonian "Sunday Morning Anthology," whose 'design and such' is by Christina Strong, a major writer on the scene, I think, who knows better than anyone else here how to merge Wieners with viz poetics for haut politics and raging verse. Among others in the anthology (available by contacting chrisx@xtina.org) Michael Carr and Chris Rizzo, as well as Gloucesterites Amanda Cook and James Cook. Still north of Boston in the Gloucester area you'll find the still-teeming Jim Dunn and Patrick Dowd and I'm sure a few others slaving at their craft. The Cooks, Rizzo, Strong, Peterson, Lamoureux, County and of course Behrle have their own blogs, and you can find out more about the B-scene by tuning in there (listings available at the Poetics EPC site or on sidebars of numerous poet-blogs, including my pantaloons.blogspot.com). Other young poet bloggers from Boston: Michaela Cooper, Shin Yu Pai, Lauren Kreuger, Aaron Tieger. Tieger is moving out of town, though, as has Yuri Hospodar -- big shortfall. Carl Annarummo has got to be the sliest poet-blogger ever, and he's leaving Boston this month. Another incalculable loss. But great to welcome Tina Celona to town. I'm sure there are many others to name and welcome. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:45:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: J Kimball Subject: add Chris Mattison Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Add Chris Mattison to the list of young Boston poets. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:11:16 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: When they speak amongst themselves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What bothers me most is the American Media. Watching the evening news, even a NYT reporter speaking from Baghdad I know is not reporting what's really happening. Not that he's lying, but that his American mindset can't see, can't admit to what his countrymen- and women are doing, as this would make him guilty too. An example is when Iraqis are interviewed, or polled, while not realizing, or wanting too, that many Iraqi People are afraid to tell an American what they really think, for the same reason they were afraid to tell Saddam's people. Prison and torture. Their hatred for Americans, and for other Westerners in their country uninvited, especially those civilian vultures who are there to profit from the tragedy, must boil over when they speak amongst themselves. -Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Vincent" To: Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Niedecker / War > Spring > stood there > all body > > Head > blown off > (war) > > showed up > downstream... > *** > From Homemade/Handmade Poems by Lorine Niedecker > > And "downstream" it is, these prisons, ("Iraq") > This practice of torture, an American "divined" policy, > dogs in mid-bite, caught in the act, > The soul of the country "caught in the act" - > An ideology, "democracy, beacon of light", > Its head "blown off", "caught in the act" , > A top down, uniform policy, > "loosen, soften them up" > There are no "innocent bystanders," > "teeth marks and bleeding" > We are not, "spring and all", > This horrible shit, sunk into it, way bad - > Johnny and Jane > Better come marching home, > Whimpering: > Time, very much the time, to take the teeth > Promptly out: Wofolitz, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Feith, Perle, Bush > Time, imperative: pull them, take them quickly: > They are all extraordinarily dangerous, criminal. > Take them, throw them, as fast as possible, > All the way out. There is no, absolutely no credibility > (moral or otherwise, if there ever was) for us, "head/ > Blown off" to remain, do anything, in or for, Iraq. > > i.e. Read, if you haven't, all the prison articles, Red Cross reports, etc., > sign all those petitions to remove x, y & z, and call Senators and > Congressperson "to heed the call." > > Stephen Vincent > Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:45:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: When they speak amongst themselves In-Reply-To: <007901c4376a$356e5220$e8fdfc83@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >What bothers me most is the American Media. Watching the evening news, even >a NYT reporter speaking from Baghdad I know is not reporting what's really >happening. Not that he's lying, but that his American mindset can't see, >can't admit to what his countrymen- and women are doing, as this would make >him guilty too. Well, in their elementary school classrooms with the US flag and the pledge of allegiance, they are not told that their country was founded on slavery and genocide. -- George Bowering The Woody Williams of Canadian poetry. 303 Fielden Ave. Port Colborne. ON, L3K 4T5 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:02:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steven Shoemaker Subject: Re: When they speak amongst themselves In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm in no mood to defend the US these days, but even so: no "genocide" in Canada, George? (I could point you to some documents if you'd like...) Ah, spring! & another pronouncement from our pure brother above the border! On Tue, 11 May 2004, George Bowering wrote: > >What bothers me most is the American Media. Watching the evening news, even > >a NYT reporter speaking from Baghdad I know is not reporting what's really > >happening. Not that he's lying, but that his American mindset can't see, > >can't admit to what his countrymen- and women are doing, as this would make > >him guilty too. > > Well, in their elementary school classrooms with the US flag and the > pledge of allegiance, they are not told that their country was > founded on slavery and genocide. > -- > George Bowering > The Woody Williams of Canadian poetry. > > 303 Fielden Ave. > Port Colborne. ON, > L3K 4T5 > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:05:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Bush Fails History...Jefferson Predicted Iraq Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/25720.php Bush Fails History...Jefferson Predicted Iraq You may have disapproved of my "extremist" views over the last year. Now, with each passing day, most of my dire predictions are coming true. We are living in an ever deepening spiral of political and moral disaster. Only NOW is the media and press beginning to report on the crisis of liberty and justice, the severity of our situation as a nation.--Shelby LaPre RadioPower.org "...So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men." -- Voltaire [François Marie Arouet] (1694-1778) RadioPower.org | Editorial 5/11/2004 You may have disapproved of my "extremist" views over the last year. Now, with each passing day, most of my dire predictions are coming true. We are living in an ever deepening spiral of political and moral disaster. Only NOW is the media and press beginning to report on the crisis of liberty and justice, the severity of our situation as a nation. As we head into the fall election either one of two things will happen. There will be peaceful regime change in America, or there will be tyranny on a scale our nation has never endured. Thus we will continue to fight for peaceful regime change. Let us not be fooled, this is a difficult and dangerous operation. Our mission as patriots of the constitution must not be swayed by the overwhelming strong arm tactics of right wing fascists and propaganda. We have shaken the grip of their illusion. We have them on the defensive. We must remain united in our grass roots organizations, for when "we the people" stand together, we form a civilian solidarity and resistance that mere tyrants cannot shake. Shelby LaPre RadioPower.org RadioPower.org | Op-Ed Bush Fails History...Jefferson Predicted Iraq by Thom Hartmann Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon thought they could bomb Vietnam into accepting democracy. George W. Bush thinks he can do it with Iraq. But the first American president to consider how best to grow democracies - Thomas Jefferson - had some very different thoughts on the issue. LBJ and Bush would have done well to listen to his thoughtful words in a letter he wrote on February 14, 1815, to his old friend in France, the Marquis de Lafayette. Discussing the French Revolution, the Terror that followed, and the reign of Napoleon, Jefferson noted that building democracy is an organic process: The democracy movement in the colonies had been fermenting for a century prior to Jefferson's birth. "A full measure of liberty is not now perhaps to be expected by your nation," Jefferson wrote, about the democracy movement within France, "nor am I confident they are prepared to preserve it. More than a generation will be requisite, under the administration of reasonable laws favoring the progress of knowledge in the general mass of the people, and their habituation to an independent security of person and property, before they will be capable of estimating the value of freedom, and the necessity of a sacred adherence to the principles on which it rests for preservation." He added that it's nearly impossible to force democracy on a people, and the consequences of trying could be disastrous. "Instead of that liberty which takes root and growth in the progress of reason, if recovered by mere force or accident, it becomes, with an unprepared people, a tyranny still, of the many, the few, or the one." Lafayette, at the time of the French Revolution (1789), had expressed his concerns to Jefferson that the movement for democracy wasn't sufficiently widespread among the average people in France to take hold as it had in America, and they should thus make the transition via a constitutional monarchy much like today's United Kingdom. At the time, Jefferson had disagreed with his friend, but in this 1815 letter, he noted: "And I found you were right.... Unfortunately, some of the most honest and enlightened of our patriotic friends...did not weigh the hazards of a transition from one form of government to another." Many in the revolutionary movement of France of that era opposed Lafayette's deliberate and careful push for an organic democracy, rather than a sudden lurch. "You differed from them," Jefferson noted. "You were for stopping there, and for securing the Constitution which the National Assembly had obtained. Here, too, you were right; and from this fatal error of the republicans, from their separation from yourself and the constitutionalists, in their councils, flowed all the subsequent sufferings and crimes of the French nation." The lack of a truly widespread, average-citizen-based movement for democracy in France, Lafayette had privately argued to Jefferson two decades earlier, could simply lead to a transition from the tyranny of the king to another, perhaps worse, form of tyranny. While Jefferson had, at first, embraced the French revolution, in his letter to Lafayette he confessed that he had now come to agree that without a broader base of support, a sudden change of government was a disaster, and the primary beneficiaries would only be war profiteers and the rich, Frenchmen who were so opposed to democracy that they could even be called foreigners. Thus, Jefferson wrote, "The foreigner gained time to anarchize by gold the government he could not overthrow by arms, to crush in their own councils the genuine republicans... and to turn the machine of Jacobinism from the change to the destruction of order; and, in the end, the limited monarchy they had secured was exchanged for the unprincipled and bloody tyranny of Robespierre, and the equally unprincipled and maniac tyranny of Bonaparte." Comparing France to America, Jefferson noted how - unlike France - we had overthrown an external occupier all by ourselves. For American colonists, the repression and occupation of the English in the Colonies "has helped rather than hurt us, by arousing the general indignation of our country, and by marking to the world of Europe the vandalism and brutal character of the English government. It has merely served to immortalize their infamy." And now Arab leaders like Egypt's Mubarak say that, across the Arab world, our infamy is being immortalized by Bush's unprovoked invasion and occupation of oil-rich Iraq. America, Mubarak says, faces "a hatred never equaled" in the Middle East, even as Iraq totters on the edge of civil war. It's as if the cycles of history are repeating themselves, and Iraq may now suffer the Terrors that racked France in the 19th Century. When John Adams wrote to Jefferson on July 13, 1813 about a French politician, he could just as easily have been speaking of George W. Bush: "In plain truth, I was astonished at the grossness of his ignorance of government and history." Adams added, speaking of those who think they can create empire and have a stable rule purely by military force, "Napoleon has lately invented a word which perfectly expresses my opinion, at that time and ever since. He calls the project Ideology; and... it was all madness." But like Iraq with Saddam, Jefferson wrote that true democracy would take time in France because the overthrow of a tyrant had been done so hastily. "You are now rid of him, and I sincerely wish you may continue so. But this may depend on the wisdom and moderation of the restored dynasty. It is for them now to read a lesson in the fatal errors of the republicans; to be contented with a certain portion of power, secured by formal compact with the nation, rather than, grasping at more, hazard all upon uncertainty, and risk meeting the fate of their predecessor...." As we "hazard all upon uncertainty" in the Middle East, Iraq is proving the prescience of our greatest presidents yet again. As Franklin D. Roosevelt said on September 22, 1936, "In the truest sense, freedom cannot be bestowed, it must be achieved." If only George W. Bush had paid attention during his study of history at Yale... Thom Hartmann (thom at thomhartmann.com) is an award-winning best-selling author and the host of a nationally syndicated daily talk radio show. http://www.thomhartmann.com. His most recent book is titled "We The People: A Call To Take Back America," and his newest book, based on Jefferson's writings, "A Return To Democracy: Reviving Jefferson's Dream," will be released on July 4th by Random House/Crown. http://www.radiopower.org -\ ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:27:46 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: When they speak amongst themselves In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I'm in no mood to defend the US these days, but even so: no "genocide" in >Canada, George? (I could point you to some documents if you'd like...) > Well, once in a while we would hang an Indian guy who had knocked someone off; but we didnt ride into his village and kill all the women and children. -- George Bowering The Woody Williams of Canadian poetry. 303 Fielden Ave. Port Colborne. ON, L3K 4T5 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 12:44:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steven Shoemaker Subject: Re: When they speak amongst themselves In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII First Nations protest celebration of genocide By Mahtowin, Workers World, 10 July 1997 As Canada celebrated the 500th anniversary of the discovery of Newfoundland and Labrador, Native protesters came out to demand justice and to commemorate the genocide of Indigenous peoples. First Nations demonstrators trailed Queen Elizabeth II of England throughout her tour of Canada. The queen had traveled to Canada to be part of Cabot 500, a multi- million-dollar celebration of the Italian mercenary sailor John Cabot's voyage to Newfoundland. Cabot arrived there in his ship, the Matthew, on June 24, 1497. Columbus' Caribbean landfall in 1492 marked the beginning of the Spanish and Portuguese invasion of the Americas. In British and Canadian history, Cabot's 1497 voyage is considered more significant, because it signaled the beginning of the British and French assault on the land and Indigenous peoples of North America. Born Giovanni Caboto, Cabot was sponsored by the English King Henry VII. Henry empowered Cabot and other mercenary sailors to search out territories of heathen and infidels and to enter and seize them ... to occupy, possess and subdue [them] ... as our vassals. Explorer John Cabot's landing, the queen said in a speech, represents the geographical and intellectual beginning of modern North America. What the queen did not say was that, less than 350 years after her pirates and thieves invaded the sovereign Beothuk territories in Newfoundland, the Beothuk nation had been exterminated. Shanawdathit, the last of her nation, died of tuberculosis in 1829. The other Indigenous populations in Newfoundland and Labrador have come perilously close to extinction since the European arrival. Innu leader Katie Riche said: I see nothing to celebrate. Along the way a whole nation, the Beothuks, were wiped out. We don't want that to happen to us. Newfoundland and Labrador First Nations people had been invited to participate in the Cabot quincentenary. They declined. [The First Nations of] Newfoundland and Labrador are still waiting to be `discovered' by the federal government, said a Native spokesperson earlier this year. Many Native people thought the millions of dollars poured into the Cabot festival would be better spent settling land claims or taking care of human needs. Some of the First Nations protesters asked that the queen intervene on their behalf with the government of Canada. On June 26, two 6-year-old Innu children gave the queen a written message from the Innu People of Nitassinan--Labrador and Quebec--which read in part: The history of colonization here has been lamentable and has severely demoralized our People. They turn now to drink and self-destruction. We have the highest rate of suicide in North America. Children as young as 12 have taken their own life recently. We feel powerless to prevent the massive mining projects now planned. ... The Labrador part of Nitassinan was claimed as British soil until very recently (1949), when, without consulting us, your government ceded it to Canada. We have never, however, signed any treaty with either Great Britain or Canada. Nor have we ever given up our right to self- determination. The fact that we have become financially dependent on the state which violates our rights is a reflection of our desperate circumstances. It does not mean that we acquiesce in those violations. We have been treated as non-People, with no more rights than the caribou on which we depend and which are now themselves being threatened by NATO war exercises and other so-called `development.' In spite of this, we remain a People in the fullest sense of the word. We have not given up. ... We have many friends in Great Britain where thousands of ordinary people have spent many years supporting our rights. We would like to count you, Your Majesty, as one of those friends. Unsurprisingly, Her Royal Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, one of the wealthiest people on the planet and the titular head of the British Commonwealth, was neither moved nor amused by this Innu request for assistance. On Tue, 11 May 2004, George Bowering wrote: > >I'm in no mood to defend the US these days, but even so: no "genocide" in > >Canada, George? (I could point you to some documents if you'd like...) > > > Well, once in a while we would hang an Indian guy who had knocked > someone off; but we didnt ride into his village and kill all the > women and children. > -- > George Bowering > The Woody Williams of Canadian poetry. > > 303 Fielden Ave. > Port Colborne. ON, > L3K 4T5 > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:24:09 -0700 Reply-To: Denise Enck Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Denise Enck Subject: A PRISON POEM by Neeli Cherkovski MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit EmptyMirrorBooks.com is pleased to publish, online, A PRISON POEM by Neeli Cherkovski. Inspired by current events, it is found at: http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/poems/cherkovski-prison.html best, Denise Empty Mirror Books & Distribution www.emptymirrorbooks.com Modern poetry, the Beat Generation, & the work of Michael McClure Denise Enck - Quanta Webdesign www.quantawebdesign.com Affordable custom websites for the arts, organizations, & individuals Post Office Box 972, Mukilteo, WA 98275-0972 USA toll-free fax & message phone: 1-877-570-6448 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:25:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lewis LaCook Subject: Yes I like you Comments: cc: cyberculture , list@netbehaviour.org, underground poetry , naked readings , rhizome , screenburn screenburn , X Stream , webartery , wryting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Like someone crying out in pain. Dawn lands in birds' throats, un- believable. The veracity situates into an exorcism, into the fan's epidemic. Like piercing delicious tissue, inflation rails at fast blood. ===== *************************************************************************** This is as useful as a doll.--Gertrude Stein http://www.lewislacook.com/ Stamen Pistol: http://stamenpistol.blogspot.com/ Poem of the Day: http://www.lewislacook.com/POD Sidereality: http://www.sidereality.com/ tubulence artist studio: http://turbulence.org/studios/lacook/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:40:34 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: Re: poetics@ucsb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Yunte -- we just got a mailing on the "Rocket Four"book art events, and, at least on this sheet, John yau no longer is listed for the Thursday discussion -- Is he still coming? or did he have to drop out -- I'm emailing you çause I don't have anybody else's email address on hand & figured you're the source for all things touching on poets! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:46:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: Re: poetics@ucsb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain coises -- foiled agin -- sorry folks, that was meant for Yunte -- fell prey to the Penn State webmail system's habit of masking the fact that poetics posts come from the poetics list! On Tue, 11 May 2004 14:40:34 +0000, ALDON L NIELSEN wrote: > Yunte -- > > we just got a mailing on the "Rocket Four"book art events, and, at least on this > sheet, John yau no longer is listed for the Thursday discussion -- Is he still > coming? or did he have to drop out -- I'm emailing you çause I don't have > anybody else's email address on hand & figured you're the source for all things > touching on poets! > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." > --Emily Dickinson > > > Aldon L. Nielsen > Kelly Professor of American Literature > The Pennsylvania State University > 116 Burrowes > University Park, PA 16802-6200 > > (814) 865-0091 > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:08:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: DAVID KIRSCHENBAUM, GEOFF DUGAN, JOANNA SONDHEIM reading and performance MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE DAVID KIRSCHENBAUM, GEOFF DUGAN, JOANNA SONDHEIM reading and performance CASPER JONES CAFE READING/MEDIA SERIES PLEASE COME! MONDAY MAY 17th, 7:00 PM, AT CASPER JONES CAFE IN BROOKLYN (see below for details) ********************************************************************** DAVID KIRSCHENBAUM is the editor and publisher of Boog City, a New York City-based community newspaper and small press now in its 13th year. He's had work appear or that is forthcoming in canwehaveourballback.com, Chain, Pavement Saw, and unpleasanteventschedule.com. JOANNA SONDHEIM lives in Brooklyn and does editorial work for the Columbia Granger=B4s Index to Poetry. Previous work has appeared in naweb, Bird Dog, Vert, Fishdrum, Transfer, lower_limit_speech, and SugarMule. Her chapbook, The Fit, was recently published by Sona Books. GEOFF DUGAN has been creating sonic and concrete space since 1982. Through his atelier recording label, GD Stereo, he has released solo work such as "aberto/fechado parque serralves" (2002) and a series of compilation compact disc recordings featuring electroacoustic, concrete, and experimental music loosely based on the Situationist theory of the d=E9rive: "The Architecture of the Incidental" (1999) and "Psychogeographical Dip" (1997). Geoff, a.k.a. Jeffrey S. Dugan AIA, is also an architect and principal with Richard Dattner & Partners Architects in NYC. ALAN SONDHEIM intermission with Geoff Dugan. ***************************************************************** Casper Jones House Cafe Bar Lounge 440 Bergen Street between 5th Ave. & Flatbush Ave. Parkslope, Brooklyn (718) 399-8741 take the Q train to 7th Ave or the 2/3 train to Bergen Street Contact Brenda Iijima or Alan Sondheim for further information. Brenda Iijima: yoyolabs@hotmail.com Alan Sondheim: sondheim@panix.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:21:40 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: DAVID KIRSCHENBAUM, GEOFF DUGAN, JOANNA SONDHEIM reading and performance In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alan: Is Joanna your daughter? (or wife?) I knew your daughter some whe= n she worked Phoenix Books, one of my local bookshops. Say hello to her for me. And,if you well, my blog address - in case she is homesick for work wit= h locally familiar materials. What did Reznikoff, Blackburn and WCW do to me, and, well now, Niedecker? Be well and have fun at the reading, Stephen Vincent Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > DAVID KIRSCHENBAUM, GEOFF DUGAN, JOANNA SONDHEIM reading and performance >=20 >=20 > CASPER JONES CAFE READING/MEDIA SERIES >=20 > PLEASE COME! >=20 > MONDAY MAY 17th, 7:00 PM, AT CASPER JONES CAFE IN BROOKLYN >=20 > (see below for details) >=20 >=20 > ********************************************************************** >=20 >=20 > DAVID KIRSCHENBAUM is the editor and publisher of Boog City, a New York > City-based community newspaper and small press now in its 13th year. He's > had work appear or that is forthcoming in canwehaveourballback.com, Chain= , > Pavement Saw, and unpleasanteventschedule.com. >=20 > JOANNA SONDHEIM lives in Brooklyn and does editorial work for the Columbi= a > Granger=B4s Index to Poetry. Previous work has appeared in naweb, Bird Dog, > Vert, Fishdrum, Transfer, lower_limit_speech, and SugarMule. Her chapbook= , > The Fit, was recently published by Sona Books. >=20 > GEOFF DUGAN has been creating sonic and concrete space since 1982. > Through his atelier recording label, GD Stereo, he has released solo work > such as "aberto/fechado parque serralves" (2002) and a series of > compilation compact disc recordings featuring electroacoustic, concrete, > and experimental music loosely based on the Situationist theory of the > d=E9rive: "The Architecture of the Incidental" (1999) and > "Psychogeographical Dip" (1997). Geoff, a.k.a. Jeffrey S. Dugan AIA, is > also an architect and principal with Richard Dattner & Partners Architect= s > in NYC. >=20 > ALAN SONDHEIM intermission with Geoff Dugan. >=20 >=20 > ***************************************************************** >=20 >=20 > Casper Jones House Cafe Bar Lounge >=20 > 440 Bergen Street > between 5th Ave. & Flatbush Ave. > Parkslope, Brooklyn > (718) 399-8741 > take the Q train to 7th Ave or the 2/3 train to Bergen Street >=20 >=20 > Contact Brenda Iijima or Alan Sondheim for further information. >=20 >=20 > Brenda Iijima: yoyolabs@hotmail.com > Alan Sondheim: sondheim@panix.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:52:16 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joseph Thomas Subject: My Life In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It seems Bill Clinton's autobiography is called My Life. Think he'll take some cues from Lyn Hejinian? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375414576/ref=amb_center-1_90390_1/102-6345399-0329764 Best, Joseph __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:02:51 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harriet Zinnes Subject: Re: Future Dictionary of America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Kein Hehir But to whom does one send a word for the Future Dictionary, if not by email? Sincerely Harriet Zinnes ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:26:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Michael Rothenberg and David Meltzer Reading June 01 in NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Meltzer and Michael Rothenberg=20 read from their new books from La Alameda / University New Mexico Press=20 Word Play Theater June 01 tue 7:30 pm $ 6. cover, Season passes $ 40. For more information call 1.212.262.4216 = Medicine Show Theatre, 549 West 52nd St. (10th/11th), 3rd Floor, NYC = 1001=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = Beat Thing is David Meltzer's truly epic poem - an engagement with = history & his own participatory & witnessing presence. If the title at = first suggests a nostalgic romp through a 1950s-style beat scene, it = doesn't take long before mid-twentieth-century America's urban = pastoralism comes apart in all its phases & merges with the final = solutions of death camps & death bombs from the preceding decade. This = is collage raised to a higher power - a tough-grained & meticulously = detailed poetry - "without check with original energy," as Whitman wrote = - & very much what's needed now. - Jerome Rothenberg=20 The Beat Thing sizzles as close as yesterday-with landmarks, names, = occasions-as Poet Meltzer writes us back into the beat. Everyone's still = There. As fresh as ever. - Joanne Kyger David Meltzer has gifted us with his beautifully written kabalistic and = unique look at the Beat Generation. He also turns his eye to the = American infrastructure of Bebop. This book comes out of his mature = consciousness like energy spray bursting from the brow of a dolphin. - Michael McClure David Meltzer's most important lyri-political work. A profound = juxtaposition in which the Beat Movement's meaning is resonated with the = haunting of the Holocaust and the American years of McCarthyism and Jim = Crowism. Like all great works, this entire book is single simultaneous = moment in progress, written by a poet who - in terms of the rhythms, = verbal inventiveness and the naming of figures of popular culture - is = without equal anywhere. - Jack Hirschman David Meltzer is one of the secret treasures on our planet. Great poet, = musician, comic; mystic unsurpassed, performer with few peers. His "ear" = like we used to say and his erudition are fine-tuned and precise. A kind = of bop-perfection pervades this work. -Diane di Prima "how easily narrative falls into place, realizes itself through a = story-telling historian who sets out to frame a tangled constantly = permutating chaos into a familiar & repeatable story w/out shadows or = dead-ends; how impulsively memory organizes into a choir to tell a story = of what it remembers symphonically, i.e., formally; even = experimentalists practice w/in or against forms that have formed their = relationship to writing & telling stories; history is the story of = writing"=20 -Epilogue from Beat Thing David Meltzer is the author of many volumes of poetry, including The = Clown (Semina, 1960), The Process (Oyez, l965), Yesod (Trigram, l969), = Arrows: Selected Poetry, 1957-1992 (Black Sparrow Press, 1994), and No = Eyes: Lester Young (Black Sparrow, 2000). He has also published fiction, = including The Agency Trilogy (Brandon House, l968; reprinted by Richard = Kasak, 1994), Orf (Brandon House, l969; reprinted by Masquerade Books, = l995), Under (Rhinoceros Books, 1997), and book-length essays, including = Two-Way Mirror: A Poetry Notebook (Oyez, 1977). He has edited numerous = anthologies and collections of interviews, including The Secret Garden: = An Anthology in the Kabbalah (Continuum Press, 1976; reprinted, Station = Hill Press, 1998), Birth: Anthology of Ancients Texts, Songs, Prayers, = and Stories (North Point Press, 1981), Death: Anthology of Texts, Songs, = Charms, Prayers, and Tales (North Point Press, 1984), Reading Jazz = (Mercury House, 1996), Writing Jazz (Mercury House, 1999), and San = Francisco Beat: Talking With the Poets (City Lights, 2001). His musical = recordings include Serpent Power (Vanguard Records, l968; reissued on CD = in 1996) and Poet Song (Vanguard Records, l969). He teaches in the = Humanities and graduate Poetics programs at the New College of = California. He lives in the Bay Area. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Unhurried Vision by Michael Rothenberg--Underneath the art of poetry = exists the tradition of the journal-the attempt to capture and reveal = the world as it passes by. Observations, reflections, and ideas = accumulate to form connections and reveal process, content and story. = Unhurried Vision is a record of the year 1999, and continues Michael = Rothenberg's experiment with the journal. This is the year Philip Whalen = became terminally ill and Rothenberg began taking care of him, pulled = together Whalen's archives and library and edited his book of selected = poems, Overtime. Political, personal, and romantic, Unhurried Vision = works to savor the impermanent, looking at the moments in a poet's life, = contemplating the body of experience. It is the mind on a quiet stroll = through longing, loss and beauty. Unhurried Vision, a year in the life of Michael, is really a deeply = loving celebration & farewell to mentor Philip Whalen, poet, roshi, & = all around confounder of boundaries. A day-book; a non-epic odyssey = through routes & roots of living & dying; a gastronome's pleasure dome, = but above all a deeply stirred & stirring affirmation of poetry's = centrality in realizing mundane & profound instances in the everyday = extraordinary. Rothenberg's raw footage is disarming; sly, = self-effacing, proclaiming, doubting, affirming. You can read it in one = sitting, say blurboligists, but it takes at least a lifetime. & then = what?=20 -David Meltzer Born in Miami Beach, Florida in 1951, Michael Rothenberg is a poet and = songwriter. He has been an active environmentalist in the San Francisco = Bay Area for the past 25 years, where he cultivates orchids and = bromeliads at his nursery, Shelldance. His broadside "Elegy for the = Dusky Seaside Sparrow" was selected Broadside of the Year by Fine Print = Magazine. The broadside of his poem "Angels" was produced in limited = edition by Hatch Show Prints as part of The Country Music Foundation's = museum resources. His songs have appeared in the films Shadowhunter, = Black Day Blue Night and Outside Ozona. He is also editor and co-founder = of Big Bridge Press and Big Bridge, an online magazine. Michael = Rothenberg divides his time between Pacifica, California and Miami, = Florida and is on the constant lookout for bottle caps and pennies for = his son Cosmos.=20 Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:38:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sina Queyras Subject: NJ writers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. Are there any New Jersey writers out there? I'm looking for ways = to contact writers in the central Jersey (Rutgers and Princeton) area. = Please back channel if you are in the hood. Sina=20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 00:11:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Machlin Subject: FUTUREPOEM Open Reading Period Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FUTUREPOEM BOOKS OPEN READING PERIOD The next open reading period for Futurepoem books will be held during the month of September 2004. Manuscripts must be postmarked during the month of September 2004 to be considered for publication in Fall/Winter 2005/Spring 2006. Editors for this reading period will be Ammiel Alcalay, Jen Hofer, Prageeta Sharma and Dan Machlin Futurepoem is interested in receiving unpublished book-length works of innovative poetry, shorter prose, and hybrid works of literature. For the open call, we cannot currently consider works-in- translation. Manuscripts that include work previously published in limited-edition chapbooks are acceptable. We will consider non-U.S. work written in English. Out of kindness to our volunteer editors, we ask that each person submit only one manuscript. Please enclose three (3) copies of your manuscript to: Futurepoem books P.O. Box 34 NY, NY 10014 USA Please enclose a self-addressed envelope with proper postage if you would like to be notified of eventual selections, and a SASE postcard if you would like to be informed of manuscript receipt. Sorry, we cannot return manuscripts (but will recycle all) so please do not enclose an envelope for manuscript return. Publication decisions will be announced by end of March 2005. Questions to: submissions@futurepoem.com More information at http://www.futurepoem.com Titles: Mad Science in Imperial China, Shanxing Wang (spring 2005) Near Life Experiences, Michael Ives (fall/winter 2004/05) Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Merry Fortune (spring 2004) The Escape, Jo Ann Wasserman (fall/winter 2003) Under the Sun, Rachel Levitsky (spring 2003) Some Mantic Daemons, Garrett Kalleberg (fall/winter 2002) Futurepoem books is supported by your book purchases, words of encouragement, teaching of our books, invitations to well-paying gigs and individual donations. We are also supported in part by recent grants from The New York State Council on the Arts Literary Program, The New York Community Trust, The Fund for Poetry and the volunteer efforts of our advisory and editorial board, and other staff. Futurepoem receives tax exempt status for all donations through Fractured Atlas Productions, Inc., NY, NY. We are distributed nationally by SPD books, http://www.spdbooks.org ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 00:00:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: all humans must die MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE all humans must die k101% perl "humans must die" Can't locate SOAP/Lite.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.1 .) at looply.pl line 18. 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Dear Cecil: I seem to remember reading sometime in my childhood (but I cant remember where . . . all humans _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:15:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Quartermain Subject: Re: My Life In-Reply-To: <20040511205216.19902.qmail@web20420.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT So's Trotsky's. If you order Hejinian's, a weebit carelessly, in a bookshop, you'll get his book by, erm, mistake. I know. It happened to me. Peter ======================================= "Rhythm and meter are dangerous branches of learning. Some poets and lovers of poetry refuse to think of them, and consequently live more comfortable lives, and give less anxiety to their friends." Marianne Moore. ======================================= Peter Quartermain 846 Keefer Street Vancouver B.C. Canada V6A 1Y7 voice 604 255 8274 fax 604 255 8204 quarterm@interchange.ubc.ca ======================================= -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Thomas Sent: 11-May-2004 1:52 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: My Life It seems Bill Clinton's autobiography is called My Life. Think he'll take some cues from Lyn Hejinian? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375414576/ref=amb_center-1_90390 _1/102-6345399-0329764 Best, Joseph __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:27:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Reviews of some older books, mostly rare MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reviews of some older books, mostly rare These are books that I have employed in my work, and think about and through; I've found them at various times in my life. In no particular order: The Ocean World: Being a Description of The Sea and some of its Inhabitants. from the French of Louis Figuier, New Edition revised by E. Percevel Wright, Cassell, Petter, Galpin, +/- 1872. There are hundreds of illustrations, almost all of invertebrates. Both illustrations and text are poeticized, organic, swimming across the page. I consult this often. The Lewis Carroll Picture Book, Stuart Dodgson Collingwood, T. Fisher Unwin, 1899. Collected materials by his nephew, with Carroll's illustrations and odd poems and collegiate texts among other things. An addendum to the constant Alice-theorizing available a century later. The Legends of the Rhine, H. A. Guerber, A. S. Barnes, 1895. Well, this is simply fascinating in relation to Wagner, etc. Baedeker's Berlin and its Environs, 1923. I consult this often in my other readings; this is an intense image of Berlin Weimar culture. The Athenian Oracle, edited by John Underhill, Walter Scott, 1897. Selections from the late 17th-century magazine, with all its strangeness. The Genuine Epistles of the Apostolical Fathers, also titled Wake's Genuine Epistles, London, Richard Sare, 1710. This is a very early edition; the print and language are fascinating, not to mention the texts, many of which are now on my PDA. The Blind Girl and Other Poems, Frances Jane Crosby, Wiley & Putnam, 1844 I've written about this elsewhere; Crosby went on to write hymns. She was blind herself. Her poem on Niagara is wonderful. Poems and Ballads, A New Edition, Swinburne, 1878. Precisely because Swinburne disturbs me. Swinburne, Selected Poems, illustrations by Harry Clarke, The Bodley Head, 1924. Clarke's illustrations, simultaneously severe and milky, mirror the text. Oeuvres de F. Rabelais, par L. Jacob, Charpentier, 1841. In the original French with new and previously unpublished materials. Poems by Felicia Hemans, edited by Rufus W. Griswold, Sorin and Ball, 1845 All I can see is these are soft, well-done, and continue to hold my interest. American Universal Geography, Jedidiah Morse, Isiah Thomas and Ebenezer Andrews, June, 1796. A very early geography, largely of the United States. The maps are torn/or missing, but the text, for me, is critical in understanding the development of the frontier. Drei und Dreissig Predigen von dem furnemstem Spaltungen in der Christlichen Religion, Jacobum Andree, Tubingen, 1576. An early Lutheran theologian concerned with uniting the Church. The Fraktur type is beautiful and the binding is original. More a wonder of early books; I don't have the wherewithal to read it. A Manual of Medical Jurisprudence, Alfred Swaine Taylor, Henry Lea, 1866. I read often into this early classic of forensic medicine; the pages on rape are literally covered in human blood. Illustrium Imagines, Andrea Fulvio, Rome, 1517. This book is discussed at length in The Renaissance Computer; my edition has the original vellum cover. There are over a hundred illustrations of Greek and Roman coins; it was the first illustrated book on numismatics. On the Laws of Japanese Painting, Henry P. Bowie, Paul Elder, 1911. This book has been reprinted by Dover, but the illustrations are much finer in the original. Think of Laws of Dots, Laws of Lines of the Garment, Laws of Ledges, Laws of the Four Paragons... _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:54:14 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: My Life In-Reply-To: <000801c437d7$bf962140$405e17cf@diogenes> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Or you might get the Henry Fonda, Magic Johnson, Burt Reynolds... No copyright on names. Mark At 09:15 PM 5/11/2004, you wrote: >So's Trotsky's. > >If you order Hejinian's, a weebit carelessly, in a bookshop, you'll get >his book by, erm, mistake. I know. It happened to me. > >Peter > >======================================= >"Rhythm and meter are dangerous branches of learning. Some poets and >lovers of poetry refuse to think of them, and consequently live more >comfortable lives, and give less anxiety to their friends." >Marianne Moore. > ======================================= >Peter Quartermain >846 Keefer Street >Vancouver B.C. >Canada V6A 1Y7 > >voice 604 255 8274 >fax 604 255 8204 >quarterm@interchange.ubc.ca >======================================= > >-----Original Message----- >From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] >On Behalf Of Joseph Thomas >Sent: 11-May-2004 1:52 PM >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: My Life > >It seems Bill Clinton's autobiography is called My >Life. Think he'll take some cues from Lyn Hejinian? > >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375414576/ref=amb_center-1_90390 >_1/102-6345399-0329764 > >Best, >Joseph > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs >http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 05:13:08 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: [razapress] BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 - May 14-15 in San Diego, Califas Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 3, 2004 Media contact: Brent E. Beltrán (619) 434-9036 or BarrioBookFest@cox.net BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 Liberation through Media and Cultural Expression May 14-15, 2004 Memorial Academy Charter School 2850 Logan Ave. (Barrio Logan) San Diego, CA 92113 Friday, May 14 - 7pm - BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 Night of Poetry Saturday, May 15 - 10am-5pm - BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 The Barrio BookFest is free and open to the public. - The Raza Press Association and the Red CalacArts Collective are co-organizing BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 on May 14-15 at Memorial Academy Charter School in San Diego, California. This free first annual grassroots activist book festival will focus on issues related to social justice and human rights from a Chicano perspective. On Friday May 14 at 7pm there will be an evening poetry program with work by socially conscious poets featuring Chicano poetry legend raúlrsalinas (Un Trip through the Mind Jail y otras Excursions and Beyond the BEATen Path) with musical backup plus Miguel-Angel Soria (co-founder of the Taco Shop Poets) and members of the Red CalacArts Collective: Olga Angelina García Echeverría, Mariajulia Arisiaga Urías, Sara Rebeca Duran Garibay, Raymond R. Beltrán and host Victor Payan. Saturday May 15 from 10am until 5pm the book festival will take place featuring performances, readings, panel discussions, a poetry workshop, book signings, publishers, bookstores, community organizations, children's art workshop, and more. The featured author for Saturday will be poet, activist, and co-owner of Tia Chucha's Cafe Cultural in Sylmar, Luis J. Rodriguez (Always Running: La Vida Loca, Gang Days in LA and Republic of East LA). Other authors, presenters and performers scheduled to appear on Saturday include: Elizabeth "Betita" Martinez (Decolores Means All of Us and 500 Years of Chicano History in Pictures), Rosaura Sánchez (He Walked in and Sat Down and Other Stories), Marta A. Lomeli (Cuentos from the House on West Connecticut Avenue) , Able Minded Poets, Sandra C. Muñoz (Free Metal Woman), Cesar A. Cruz (Teolol) of the END-Dependence Collective, Ariel Robello (forthcoming: My Sweet Unconditional), Michael Heralda's Aztec Stories, Danza Mixcoatl, Armando Navarro (The Cristal Experiment: A Chicano Struggle for Community Control), Caballero Verde Quinteto Latin Jazz and others. Confirmed vendors include: AK Press, Burnt Tortilla Creations, Calaca Press, Casa del Libro, Groundwork Bookstore, La Verdad Publications, Mayazteca, Motivational Designs, Resistencia Bookstore/Red Salmon Press, Tia Chucha's Cafe Cultural, Mil Cosas, International Action Center, 5th Battallion, Project YANO, California Teachers Association, Media Arts Center San Diego, and others. For media requests please contact Brent E. Beltrán (619) 434-9036 or BarrioBookFest@cox.net or visit www.barriobookfest.org. BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 is organized the Raza Press Association www.razapressassociation.org and the Red CalacArts Collective www.redcalacartscollective.org and endorsed by the following: Calaca Press | Committee on Raza Rights | National Association for Chicana and Chicano Studies | Project YANO | Raza Rights Coalition | Red Salmon Press | Resistencia Bookstore | Save Our Centro Coalition | UCSD Chicano/a~Latino/a Arts and Humanities Program | Unión del Barrio | Voz Fronteriza _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 06:24:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Canadians should not feel smug Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/25768.php Canadians should not feel smug Smiles can be the most shocking things. The memory of Shidane Arone, the Somali teenager who died in March, 1993, after being tortured by Canadian troops, still evokes a shudder -- partly because of the photographs of soldiers posing around his trussed and tortured body. Canadians should not feel smug GRAHAM FRASER OTTAWA--Smiles can be the most shocking things. Arthur Fellig, a New Yorker who made his name as a freelance crime photographer in the 1930s and 1940s under the name Weegee, knew this. One of his most haunting photographs was of a drowning victim on a beach. A crowd has gathered. An attractive girl in a bathing suit, spotting the camera, smiles coquettishly. The incongruity of the smile as a man lay dying made it a disturbing commentary on the power of the camera in the modern age. The memory of Shidane Arone, the Somali teenager who died in March, 1993, after being tortured by Canadian troops, still evokes a shudder -- partly because of the photographs of soldiers posing around his trussed and tortured body. That incident, and its initial cover-up, had a shattering impact on the Canadian Forces. It resulted in several books and an inquiry. It ended careers. It led to the abolition of an elite paratroop battalion, the Canadian Airborne Regiment, and sweeping changes in the way our military operates. Now, photographs of horrifying abuse have emerged from Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad: pictures of torture, sexual exploitation and gross humiliation. One of the most appalling things about them is that the soldiers and prison guards are grinning at the camera, as if they were on a spring break caper in Cancun. There are a number of things to reflect on as these horrific images emerge: the impact of new technology, the clash of cultures and the corrupting effect of blending power and contempt. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell compared the abuse with the massacre of innocent civilians by U.S. soldiers at My Lai, during the Vietnam War. Seymour Hersh broke the My Lai story some 35 years ago. Last week, for the New Yorker, Hersh exposed torture by American military personnel at Abu Ghraib. But no one posed for photographs at My Lai, beaming at the camera, thumbs up. The Bush administration has kept ruthless control of visual images. Former president Ronald Reagan set the standard, with communications director Michael Deaver managing every visual detail, no matter how tiny, of Reagan's public appearances. The visuals of the Iraq war have been handled with similar discipline. Bush swaggering onto the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln, Top Gun-style, to the cheers of the sailors and the "mission accomplished" banner appeared a year ago to be a political triumph. Not now. As war spurred bitter insurgency, the Pentagon forbade any photographs of coffins. But this is the new digital age, and a contract employee's shots of rows of flag-draped coffins flashed around the world on the Internet. The same pattern occurred in Iraq. The Washington Post says it has more than 1,000 digital photographs, some of them as graphic and humiliating as those published by the New Yorker and broadcast by CBS. "For many units serving in Iraq, digital cameras are pervasive and yet another example of how technology has transformed the way troops communicate with relatives back home," wrote Christian Davenport. "From Basra to Baghdad, they e-mail pictures home." Some are the cheerful snapshots of strangers in a foreign land, posing in front of mosques, riding camels. Others are of naked men chained together -- dragged into a strange world of sadistic torture and pornographic games. It is the Arab and Muslim worst nightmare of corrupted Western values, more powerfully expressed than any Osama bin Laden monologue or radical cleric's sermon. Canadian anthropologist Edmund Carpenter, who influenced communications theorist Marshall McLuhan, once observed that those who saw their own image for the first time responded with what he called "the acute anxiety of sudden self-awareness." This is equally stunning. Politically, it is hard to imagine how this could be worse for Bush and the United States, as self-styled liberators are shown as torturers, and the cultural values of modesty and dignity are mocked and degraded. It shows a breakdown of command, of discipline, of morality. No worst-case scenario ever included photos of grinning soldiers posing with naked, helpless Iraqi prisoners, or hooded figures standing, arms extended, Christ-like, hooked up to wires. The U.S. rejections of the relevance of the Geneva Convention and the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court for war crimes now ring hollow. But no Canadian can feel smug or complacent. This not only can happen here, it has. From decades of physical, cultural and sexual abuses at aboriginal residential schools and in orphanages run by religious orders to sordid, degrading initiation ceremonies and the torture and murder of Shidane Arone that disgraced the Airborne, Canada has experienced this. Arbitrary power mixed with cultural contempt is a toxic mix, but we have no right to feel superior. We've been there. Graham Fraser is a national affairs writer. He can be reached at graham.fraser@sympatico.ca Additional articles by Graham Fraser http://www.caircan.ca/mw_more.php?id=964_0_7_0_M ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:37:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sina Queyras Subject: undergraduate writing resources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all.=20 I'm putting together a website for the undergraduate creative writing = program at Rutgers, and while I have a pretty substantial list already, = I'm looking for innovative and exciting resources/sites. Particularly = sites that will explode an undergraduate's idea of what poetry is--but = not only poetry, drama, fiction, etc. Any suggestions would be = appreciated. Please back channel.=20 Sina ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:42:27 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joseph Thomas Subject: Rothenberg In-Reply-To: <40A214D4.4020402@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can anyone backchannel me Jerome Rothenberg's email address? Thanks so much, Joseph __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:34:06 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit capital one visa card kinko's closed platinum the color of desire... hot noon...verizon down...alt.mac....drn... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:43:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Renee Ashley Subject: Re: undergraduate writing resources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit www.webdelsol.com is pretty neat! w/ gateways to all sorts of poetry stuff. Renee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Queyras" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:37 AM Subject: [POETICS] undergraduate writing resources Hi all. I'm putting together a website for the undergraduate creative writing program at Rutgers, and while I have a pretty substantial list already, I'm looking for innovative and exciting resources/sites. Particularly sites that will explode an undergraduate's idea of what poetry is--but not only poetry, drama, fiction, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please back channel. Sina ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:52:47 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: undergraduate writing resources In-Reply-To: <0b8401c4382e$a2a65f80$0a1410ac@virginia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Hi all. >I'm putting together a website for the undergraduate creative >writing program at Rutgers, and while I have a pretty substantial >list already, I'm looking for innovative and exciting >resources/sites. Particularly sites that will explode an >undergraduate's idea of what poetry is--but not only poetry, drama, >fiction, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please back >channel. > >Sina I'd like to suggest some books. Take for instance the Collected Poems of William Carlos Williams. Books are pretty good resources. -- George Bowering Remembers young Elizabeth Taylor's waist ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:00:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Fwd: Rejected posting to POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > > >I forgot about the Beothuks. But not in my book. > >gb > >right The Beothuks were wiped out on the island in the 18th Century, by Europeans. But Canada did not slaughter native people. We hanged some men, and should not have. But we did not ride into villages and slaughter the women and children, as was done in Montana, and Iraq. -- George Bowering Remembers young Elizabeth Taylor's waist ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:15:17 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: schwartzgk Subject: Re: undergraduate writing resources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi all. > >I'm putting together a website for the undergraduate creative > >writing program at Rutgers, and while I have a pretty substantial > >list already, I'm looking for innovative and exciting > >resources/sites. Particularly sites that will explode an > >undergraduate's idea of what poetry is--but not only poetry, drama, > >fiction, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please back > >channel. > > > >Sina > > I'd like to suggest some books. Take for instance the Collected Poems > of William Carlos Williams. Books are pretty good resources. > -- > George Bowering > Remembers young Elizabeth Taylor's waist and Tolson's Harlem Gallery! Gerald Schwartz Remembers E. T.'s eyes ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:20:34 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Re: Spring... Comments: To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lives flattened arched made keen even desire turned smooth and ferruled by those new change machines @ the quicky- mart -Gerald Schwartz damed near 89 in the shade, lawn smells everywhere > capital > one > > visa > card > > kinko's > closed > > platinum > the color > > of desire... > > > > > hot noon...verizon down...alt.mac....drn... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:22:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Dodie Bellamy's Summer Prose Workshop In-Reply-To: <000801c437d7$bf962140$405e17cf@diogenes> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I will be leading a summer prose workshop, which will meet 10 Monday evenings in my South of Market apartment from 7 to 10. The dates: June 7 through the end of August (no class June 21--also no class one or two weeks in August--I'm still hammering out my August schedule). By prose I mean fiction, nonfiction, prose poetry, cross-genre (and cross-gender) writing including (but not exclusively) anything edgy or experimental. It's a good place to present work that feels too risky or sexy or queer for academic workshops. The workshops are totally open-ended. Five people present a week, scheduling that the week ahead. Usually people bring in something 5 pages or less (copies for everybody) and we critique it that week. Longer pieces are also okay, but they need to be handed out a week ahead of time for people to read. Each student typically gets a half an hour each time we critique. The classes are limited to 9 students. Lots and lots of personal attention. They take place in my South of Market apartment, which comes complete with snacks and one cat. My latest book, Pink Steam, a collection of fiction, memoir, and memoiresque essays, will be published this June by San Francisco's Suspect Thoughts Press. My vampire novel, The Letters of Mina Harker will be reprinted by University of Wisconsin Press this fall. I'm the author of 3 other books and I teach creative writing at SF State and in the MFA program at Antioch Los Angeles. I've also taught at CalArts, Naropa summer session, Mills, USF, UC Santa Cruz, and the SF Art Institute. I'm the winner of the Bay Guardian Goldie Award for Literature and the Firecracker Alternative Book Award for Poetry. If you're interested, please email about cost, work samples, etc. Or--if you know anybody who might be interested, please pass this email along to them. Past classes have filled up quickly, so if you're interested do contact me promptly. Best, Dodie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:49:12 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Hadbawnik Subject: Jarnot-Brown reading RESCHEDULED for Sat., May 15!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are invited to A Reading at David & Diane's apartment 695 35th Ave. #204 San Francisco 415.221.4272 enjoy your favorite writers in a cozy environment with refreshments and friends... bring some beer, wine, or a snack* coming up: 7.30pm Saturday, May 15 a reading by Lisa Jarnot and Brandon Brown* *NOTE: THIS READING WAS RESCHEDULED FROM SUNDAY, MAY 16 DUE TO BAY TO BREAKERS* **LISA JARNOT ALSO READS WITH CYNTHIA SAILERS ON FRIDAY, MAY 14 AT SPT; visit http://www.sptraffic.org/html/events/spring02.html for more details Lisa Jarnot's third collection, Black Dog Songs, is new from Flood Editions. Stan Brakhage writes: "However adrift in linguistic aesthetics, in sheer music-of-rhythmed-sounds, her words are never severed from the means that engendered them; and the consequent meanings are never detached from the meditative drama of each whole poem." Jarnot visits from NYC; her previous works are Some Other Kind of Mission and Ring of Fire. Her critical biography of Robert Duncan will be published by UC Press next year. Brandon Brown is a poet and translator from Kansas City, Missouri. He is currently an MFA candidate at San Francisco State University. His poems have appeared. He lives in San Francisco with one chainsmoking maniac. Directions: Public trans: From downtown San Francisco, take the 38 Geary or the 31 Balboa, and get off at 35th Ave. Driving: drive to 35th and Balboa, park; my building is the big one on the northwest corner of the street. Ring the buzzer for apartment 204. NOTE: the phone will be turned off after 8pm, so don't be late!!! ALSO COMING UP NEXT WEEK: JAMES MEETZE AND SARAH ROSENTHAL NEW BRUTE VS. BOAS FRIDAY, MAY 21 http://habenichtpress.com/readingseries/directions may2.html FOR MORE DETAILS ===== www.habenichtpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:59:44 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: W Benjamin & Color Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am starting a little piece on shop windows and color and the question came to mind whether Benjamin ever used color in his own writing. On quick re-reading, it's clear that he's transparently clear on the architecture of the arcades, the structural use of iron to create the shapes through which one would stroll, view, etc. But rarely do I see him working his eye to expose the colors within the architecture. Actual color appears to escape his critical index. Then I began to think isn't there a pervasive grayness to his writer - an analytically superior mind one hand, but mostly colorless. Ironic in terms of his obsession with the "image" and its import. Then I began to wonder what would have happened to B's manner of writing and analysis if it had been invaded and suffused with colors? Perhaps it's the absence of a sense of color that permits B a greater in depth sense of structure (the architecture of situations), yet at the loss of sensual qualities that either betray or enhance our experience of shop windows Or is B's love of Proust - who breathed color (yet was a great analytical mind) - informative here. Ironically B's translation of P into German is supposedly lousy. I am sure there are people on this list who know Benjamin much greater than from my own relatively limited reading. Will appreciate a response Stephen Vincent (who is obviously not in business of grading finals) Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:12:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steven Shoemaker Subject: Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ah, I'm sure that's a great consolation to those who were "wiped out." And um, yeah, it was the "Europeans" who caused all the trouble here, too, not "us." And it's not just the Beothuks, either, by the way. There are more documents I could send, but I'm sure you could find them yourself... On Wed, 12 May 2004, George Bowering wrote: > > > > > > > >I forgot about the Beothuks. But not in my book. > > > >gb > > > >right > > The Beothuks were wiped out on the island in the 18th Century, by Europeans. > But Canada did not slaughter native people. We hanged some men, and > should not have. But we did not ride into villages and slaughter the > women and children, as was done in Montana, and Iraq. > -- > George Bowering > Remembers young Elizabeth Taylor's waist > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:54:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: poetics@ucsb In-Reply-To: <200405111840.OAA25777@webmail4.cac.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here's the cryptic rocket four books thing, in Santa Barbara, CA -- I admit I was curious ever since the posting -- also, would be very interested to know about "poetics@ucsb" -- does the mysterious Yunte have a new series!?!??! http://www.sbva.org/mayprint.htm Through 30 May =93The Rocket Four=94 an exhibit curated by Harry and = Sandra Reese. During an artist book workshop held in Poestenkill, NY in August 1997, at the invitation of Gunnar Kaldewey, four publishers of artist books: Kaldewey Press, Poestenkill, NY and New York, NY; Arte Dos Gr=E1fico, Bogot=E1, Colombia; Limestone Press, San Francisco, CA and = Tampa, FL; and Turkey Press, Isla Vista, CA, agreed to organize a tour of exhibitions on four continents. These exhibitions of =93The Rocket Four=94 are intended to increase the visibility of artist books beyond those efforts and activities of each press on its own. The somewhat obscure name is indebted to Luis Angel Parra (Of Arte Dos Gr=E1fico), who uses a rocket gesture as a symbol of activity, optimism and zest for life. According to Hank Hine, =93An artist book, composed of its complex elements, is an object like the world is, full of movement and sight and sound. But this small world can be returned to again and again in its unchanging state, can be held in the hand; this small world can be apprehended. This is why we make books; to see them and comprehend what they are a part of.=94 Klausner Gallery. Santa Barbara Contemporary Arts Forum. =20 -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of ALDON L NIELSEN Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:41 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: poetics@ucsb Yunte -- we just got a mailing on the "Rocket Four"book art events, and, at least on this sheet, John yau no longer is listed for the Thursday discussion -- Is he still coming? or did he have to drop out -- I'm emailing you =E7ause I don't have anybody else's email address on hand & figured you're the source for all things touching on poets! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:30:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: FW: [ISEA Forum] Revised Call for Submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am finishing my two a day posting quota with this: Am I to assume that all calls for work like this are actually institutions requesting money from artists? And that none of them should be answered unless I have $250 + whatever airfare and hotel costs to do it? All best, Catherine Daly cadaly@pacbell.net CALL FOR PARTICIPATION: SYMPOSIUM ON ART & TECHNOLOGY ARTS OF THE VIRTUAL: POETIC INQUIRIES IN TIME, SPACE AND MOTION The University of Utah announces an open call to all artists (previously open to Utah artists only) involved in creative endeavors to submit original electronic art for presentation/installation/performance/discussion at the Symposium on Arts and Technology to take place on the University of Utah campus Sept.30-Oct.2 2004 in the New Media Wing of the Art and Architecture Building. As the three day symposium title suggests ("Arts of the Virtual: Poetic Inquiries in Time, Space and Motion"), organizers are interested in work incorporating innovative uses of digital technologies (virtual reality, telepresence, high performance computing, special sensing, data driven events, feedback systems, etc.) to deliver innovative aesthetic experiences. This acknowledges the increasing artistic interest at the University of Utah and elsewhere in pushing the limits of knowledge and expression as individuals and as a society. Such efforts often involve interdisciplinary collaborations with science and engineering. Contributions from fields as diverse as dance, architecture, engineering, the visual arts, design, computer science, music, theater, mathematics, film, and others are encouraged. All submissions will be juried. Work submitted must display at least one or more of the following characteristics: * digitally-based (though it may/should include human activity/performance) * interactivity * real time behavior/response Evaluative criteria will be: * Uniqueness, judged as high level of innovation and creativity within the context of state-of-the-art electronic arts. * Cohesiveness, judged as unity between concept, formal/structural integrity and technological rendering/realization. * Interdisciplinary content, judged as collaboration among the arts and beyond (the sciences, engineering, etc.). The number of artworks selected by the jury will depend on submission diversity, quality and appropriateness to the symposium guidelines. Projects will be selected for one of two presentation formats: 1. A twenty minute project presentation as part of a scheduled panel of artists. 2. A poster session/project exhibition in which the work is displayed for informal walk through and discussion throughout the symposium. The symposium will include figures of international standing in their fields. SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: * Sample of creative work (in electronic format; DVD, CD, VHS etc.) * Summary description not to exceed 1,500 words * Technical and spatial presentation requirements (if any) * Curriculum vitae. DEADLINE: Postmarked Monday, May 31, 2004. SUBMISSIONS to: Professor David Zemmels at david.zemmels@utah.edu -or- Professor David Zemmels College of Fine Arts, ART 250, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT 84112 INFORMATION: Further inquiries should be sent to Professor David Zemmels, through email or US Postal service to: College of Fine Arts, ART 250, University of Utah, UT 84112 or visit the symposium website at: http://www.artstechsymposium.utah.edu -- --------------------------------------------- Ellen Bromberg, Assistant Dean for Research, College of Fine Arts Assistant Professor, Department of Modern Dance University of Utah 330 S. 1500 E. Rm. 110 Salt Lake City, UT 84112 PH: 801/587-9807 FX: 801/581-5442 Dance Office: 801/581-7327 e.bromberg@m.cc.utah.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:47:33 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tim Peterson Subject: Leonardo Co-Sponsors Bateson Colloquium, November 2004, Santa Clara, California Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Leonardo/ISAST Collaborates on 100th Anniversary Colloquium on Gregory Bateson November 20, 2004 (with a special reception on November 19) "MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF THE WORLD: CONFERENCE MARKING 100 YEARS OF GREGORY BATESON'S INFLUENCE." http://www.batesonconference.org/ +convenes at the Center for Science Technology and Society at Santa Clara University, California. Among the many featured speakers on November 20 are: *Mary Catherine Bateson: Institute for Intercultural Studies *Peter Harries-Jones: Prof. of Anthropology (Emeritus), York University, Ontario; author ŒA Recursive Vision¹ *Jerry Brown: Mayor of Oakland; former Gov. of California *Nathan Gray: Co-founder OXFAM America; founder, EarthTrain *Tim Campbell: World Bank Institute; author ŒQuiet Revolution¹; ŒLeadership and Innovation¹ *Jay Ogilvy: Co-founder, Global Business Network; author, ŒCreating Better Futures¹ *Carol Wilder: Assoc. Dean and Chair, Dept. of Communication, New School University (NYC); author ŒRigor and Imagination: Essays from the Legacy of Gregory Bateson¹ *Kenny Ausubel: Founder & President, Collective Heritage Institute (which produces the Bioneers Conference) The November 20 is being sponsored by: *Urban Age Institute *Bioneers Inc. *Global Business Network Inc. *Gateway Pacific Foundation *The Natural Step *The Tides Family of Organizations *Point Foundation *"Urban Age Magazine" A special event will be the world premiere of Nora Bateson's film tribute to Gregory Bateson: 'That Reminds Me of a Story'. For more information about the Bateson Centennial Conference, click http://www.batesonconference.org/ and to purchase tickets to the conference click http://www.acteva.com/go/Bateson Leonardo/ISAST serves the international arts community by promoting and documenting work at the intersection of the arts, sciences, and technology, and by encouraging and stimulating collaboration between artists, scientists, and technologists. For further information, visit www.leonardo.info -- NEW ADDRESS! Please note our new contact information as of May 1, 2004: Leonardo/ISAST 211 Sutter Street, Suite 800 San Francisco, CA 94108 phone: (415) 391-1110 fax: (415) 391-2385 Email: isast@leonardo.info Web: http://www.leonardo.info Promote your programs or exhibitions to your peers in art, science, and technology with Leonardo and Leonardo Music Journal. For rates and deadlines for display advertisements, contact the MIT Press Journals Department at journals-info@mit.edu. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:35:19 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: United South Africanadian of North Tub Thumpers Requiem so *nasty* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mmm pthyllrrd!!! GA! nnika nikka noompsurg—Gausg!! CANADAMAN KILL THE LESS HOMODOGS EAT THE AMERICUREAN TONSIL PHONICS. dust. In dependence uv slave-queen Wounded PeePee. SO there. pbbbththththththththththh. /!!!!!/ apt itillation CA lovingly, Andrew. >I'm in no mood to defend the US these days, but even so: no "genocide" in >Canada, George? (I could point you to some documents if you'd like...) > Well, once in a while we would hang an Indian guy who had knocked someone off; but we didnt ride into his village and kill all the women and children. -- George Bowering The Woody Williams of Canadian poetry. 303 Fielden Ave. Port Colborne. ON, L3K 4T5 ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:38:30 +0930 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ken Bolton Subject: Re: W Benjamin & Color In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Hi Steven, I haven't read it but I sell it occasionally-a book called Walter Benjamin - the colour of experience, by Howard CAYGILL: "an interpretation of Benjamin's project & sensibility as one that applied a Kantian concept of experience across an extraordinarily large & unusually diverse range of objects. Caygill argues from Benjamin's writings for an understanding of Benjamin as primarily a thinker of the visual. And in so doing casts new light on much of Benjamin's work". Published by Routledge. Cheers Ken Bolton DARK HORSEY BOOKSHOP ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 00:03:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: OF THE WITNESS OF THE TAPE OF BEHEADING AND OF THE TAPES OF TORTURES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OF THE WITNESS OF THE TAPE OF BEHEADING AND OF THE TAPES OF TORTURES SMASH THE FACE OF SMASH GOD THE GILGAMESH JESUS OF CHRIST JESUS ALLAH THE MARDUK JEHOVAH FACE ALL ELOHIM THE CREATORS OF OBEISANCE OF OBSCENITIES PRAYERS THE AND AND FACELESS FACELESS HOLY HOLY GHOST GHOST ALMIGHTIES OF BOWINGS BOWINGS DOWN DOWN RISINGS ALL UP RISINGS FOR THESE FOR ARE THESE KILLERS THE BETRAYERS AND WOMEN WOMEN MEN MEN SLAYERS ARE CHILDREN SLAYERS ANGELIC SMASH HORDES THE THEM HORDES TORTURERS BEHEADERS THE ARMIES SMASH DROWN IN VILE DROWN WATERS THEM BURN BELIEVERS DIVINITY PROVIDENCE DESTINY IN REWARDS HEREAFTERS IN FURY SMASH GOD THE SMASH FACE THE OF FACE GOD OF GILGAMESH CHRIST JESUS OF CHRIST JESUS ALLAH OF MARDUK JEHOVAH JEHOVAH OF ALL ELOHIM ELOHIM THE CREATORS ALL OBEISANCE ALL OBSCENITIES THE PRAYERS OF AND CHRIST FACELESS THE HOLY OF GHOST HOLY ALMIGHTIES ALL BOWINGS ALL DOWN BOWINGS RISINGS ALL UP RISINGS FOR BETRAYERS THESE FOR ARE THESE KILLERS THE BETRAYERS AND WOMEN OF MEN AND SLAYERS THE CHILDREN OF ANGELIC THE HORDES ANGELIC THEM SMASH TORTURERS THE BEHEADERS AND ARMIES THE DROWN WATERS IN THEM VILE IN WATERS VILE BURN WATERS BELIEVERS SMASH DIVINITY IN PROVIDENCE IN DESTINY IN REWARDS IN HEREAFTERS AND FURY IN FACE GOD OF SMASH GOD THE SMASH JESUS THE CHRIST FACE GILGAMESH JESUS THE CHRIST FACE ALLAH THE JEHOVAH THE ELOHIM FACE CREATORS FACE OBEISANCE FACE OBSCENITIES PRAYERS PRAYERS THE AND OF HOLY FACELESS GHOST FACE ALMIGHTIES FACE BOWINGS FACE DOWN OF RISINGS FACE UP OF KILLERS THESE BETRAYERS THE THESE WOMEN ARE AND KILLERS THESE WOMEN THE MEN OF SLAYERS THESE CHILDREN THE HORDES SMASH THEM ANGELIC TORTURERS BEHEADERS BEHEADERS THE THEM VILE IN WATERS VILE DROWN WATERS THEM BELIEVERS IN DIVINITY SMASH BELIEVERS PROVIDENCE PROVIDENCE DESTINY DESTINY IN REWARDS HEREAFTERS HEREAFTERS IN FURY SMASH GOD OF FACE THE SMASH CHRIST JESUS OF FACE THE SMASH GILGAMESH ALLAH OF FACE THE SMASH JEHOVAH OF FACE THE SMASH MARDUK ELOHIM THE OF FACE THE SMASH ALL CREATORS ALL OF FACE THE SMASH OBEISANCE ALL OF FACE THE SMASH PRAYERS OF OBSCENITIES THE SMASH CHRIST THE JESUS OF FACE THE SMASH AND GHOST HOLY OF FACE FACELESS THE SMASH AND ALMIGHTIES ALL OF FACE THE SMASH DOWN BOWINGS ALL OF FACE THE SMASH AND UP RISINGS ALL OF FACE THE SMASH BETRAYERS AND KILLERS THE ARE THESE FOR MEN AND WOMEN OF KILLERS THE ARE THESE CHILDREN OF SLAYERS THE ARE THESE THEM SMASH HORDES ANGELIC THE SMASH BEHEADERS AND TORTURERS THE SMASH ALMIGHTIES THE OF ARMIES THE SMASH WATERS VILE IN THEM DROWN WATERS VILE IN THEM BURN DIVINITY IN BELIEVERS SMASH DESTINY IN PROVIDENCE IN BELIEVERS HEREAFTERS AND REWARDS IN BELIEVERS FURY IN THEM SMASH THEM SMASH THEM SMASH SMASH THE FACE OF GOD GILGAMESH SMASH THE FACE OF JESUS CHRIST SMASH THE FACE OF ALLAH MARDUK SMASH THE FACE OF JEHOVAH ALL SMASH THE FACE OF THE ELOHIM SMASH THE FACE OF ALL CREATORS SMASH THE FACE OF ALL OBEISANCE SMASH THE OBSCENITIES OF PRAYERS AND SMASH THE FACE OF JESUS THE CHRIST AND SMASH THE FACELESS FACE OF HOLY GHOST SMASH THE FACE OF ALL ALMIGHTIES AND SMASH THE FACE OF ALL BOWINGS DOWN SMASH THE FACE OF ALL RISINGS UP FOR THESE ARE THE KILLERS AND BETRAYERS THESE ARE THE KILLERS OF WOMEN AND MEN THESE ARE THE SLAYERS OF CHILDREN SMASH THE ANGELIC HORDES SMASH THEM SMASH THE TORTURERS AND BEHEADERS SMASH THE ARMIES OF THE ALMIGHTIES DROWN THEM IN VILE WATERS BURN THEM IN VILE WATERS SMASH BELIEVERS IN DIVINITY BELIEVERS IN PROVIDENCE IN DESTINY BELIEVERS IN REWARDS AND HEREAFTERS SMASH THEM IN FURY SMASH THEM SMASH THEM _ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 00:14:12 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: acoustopsychogeographism MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII acoustopsychogeographism http://www.asondheim.org/node2.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/node3.mp3 major corporation university node space-push _ a list is a communality of people if the world will disappear, i will make you smile, and i will disappear. if i will speak no more, the moon will say to you, and if i say no more, the sun will speak to you. for i will leave this list, and i will speak no more, and i will leave the world, and you will see no more, nor will you hear when i shall leave the world, nor will you speak, when i shall leave the world. for your smile i will say the truth and leave a storm for you, and for the moon, i will leave the sun and this sad world.:i will make a storm for you if i will say the truth and i will make the sun come unto the lord and beg forgiveness. for it is said, to beg forgiveness is the sun and to demand such is the moon. if i will say a lie, i will make a rainbow, and if you walk a while, the ends will be a circle. for to be at the end is to witness the circle, whereof all of life, if the truth be said, is the sun and the moon, and all of life is the moon and the sun. :i will gladly give up this list if it will make you happier and i will give up my life if it will make you smile but i will not give up my country, it's of you, sweet land of liberty, long may it smile. i will leave this happy world for peace and i will leave this sad world for the forsaking of war and i will leave this world for you if it will make you smile. i will destroy these words if they will make you mad but if they make you happy i will give up this world, i will give up this world for you if it will make you smile.:: sun and moon and world, how sad! _ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:11:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Fw: Michael Rothenberg and David Meltzer Reading June 01 in NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Rothenberg and David Meltzer =20 read from their new books from La Alameda / University New Mexico Press=20 Word Play Theater June 01 tue 7:30 pm $ 6. cover, Season passes $ 40. For more information call 1.212.262.4216 = Medicine Show Theatre, 549 West 52nd St. (10th/11th), 3rd Floor, NYC = 1001=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = Beat Thing is David Meltzer's truly epic poem - an engagement with = history & his own participatory & witnessing presence. If the title at = first suggests a nostalgic romp through a 1950s-style beat scene, it = doesn't take long before mid-twentieth-century America's urban = pastoralism comes apart in all its phases & merges with the final = solutions of death camps & death bombs from the preceding decade. This = is collage raised to a higher power - a tough-grained & meticulously = detailed poetry - "without check with original energy," as Whitman wrote = - & very much what's needed now. - Jerome Rothenberg=20 The Beat Thing sizzles as close as yesterday-with landmarks, names, = occasions-as Poet Meltzer writes us back into the beat. Everyone's still = There. As fresh as ever. - Joanne Kyger David Meltzer has gifted us with his beautifully written kabalistic and = unique look at the Beat Generation. He also turns his eye to the = American infrastructure of Bebop. This book comes out of his mature = consciousness like energy spray bursting from the brow of a dolphin. - Michael McClure David Meltzer's most important lyri-political work. A profound = juxtaposition in which the Beat Movement's meaning is resonated with the = haunting of the Holocaust and the American years of McCarthyism and Jim = Crowism. Like all great works, this entire book is single simultaneous = moment in progress, written by a poet who - in terms of the rhythms, = verbal inventiveness and the naming of figures of popular culture - is = without equal anywhere. - Jack Hirschman David Meltzer is one of the secret treasures on our planet. Great poet, = musician, comic; mystic unsurpassed, performer with few peers. His "ear" = like we used to say and his erudition are fine-tuned and precise. A kind = of bop-perfection pervades this work. -Diane di Prima "how easily narrative falls into place, realizes itself through a = story-telling historian who sets out to frame a tangled constantly = permutating chaos into a familiar & repeatable story w/out shadows or = dead-ends; how impulsively memory organizes into a choir to tell a story = of what it remembers symphonically, i.e., formally; even = experimentalists practice w/in or against forms that have formed their = relationship to writing & telling stories; history is the story of = writing"=20 -Epilogue from Beat Thing David Meltzer is the author of many volumes of poetry, including The = Clown (Semina, 1960), The Process (Oyez, l965), Yesod (Trigram, l969), = Arrows: Selected Poetry, 1957-1992 (Black Sparrow Press, 1994), and No = Eyes: Lester Young (Black Sparrow, 2000). He has also published fiction, = including The Agency Trilogy (Brandon House, l968; reprinted by Richard = Kasak, 1994), Orf (Brandon House, l969; reprinted by Masquerade Books, = l995), Under (Rhinoceros Books, 1997), and book-length essays, including = Two-Way Mirror: A Poetry Notebook (Oyez, 1977). He has edited numerous = anthologies and collections of interviews, including The Secret Garden: = An Anthology in the Kabbalah (Continuum Press, 1976; reprinted, Station = Hill Press, 1998), Birth: Anthology of Ancients Texts, Songs, Prayers, = and Stories (North Point Press, 1981), Death: Anthology of Texts, Songs, = Charms, Prayers, and Tales (North Point Press, 1984), Reading Jazz = (Mercury House, 1996), Writing Jazz (Mercury House, 1999), and San = Francisco Beat: Talking With the Poets (City Lights, 2001). His musical = recordings include Serpent Power (Vanguard Records, l968; reissued on CD = in 1996) and Poet Song (Vanguard Records, l969). He teaches in the = Humanities and graduate Poetics programs at the New College of = California. He lives in the Bay Area. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Unhurried Vision by Michael Rothenberg--Underneath the art of poetry = exists the tradition of the journal-the attempt to capture and reveal = the world as it passes by. Observations, reflections, and ideas = accumulate to form connections and reveal process, content and story. = Unhurried Vision is a record of the year 1999, and continues Michael = Rothenberg's experiment with the journal. This is the year Philip Whalen = became terminally ill and Rothenberg began taking care of him, pulled = together Whalen's archives and library and edited his book of selected = poems, Overtime. Political, personal, and romantic, Unhurried Vision = works to savor the impermanent, looking at the moments in a poet's life, = contemplating the body of experience. It is the mind on a quiet stroll = through longing, loss and beauty. Unhurried Vision, a year in the life of Michael, is really a deeply = loving celebration & farewell to mentor Philip Whalen, poet, roshi, & = all around confounder of boundaries. A day-book; a non-epic odyssey = through routes & roots of living & dying; a gastronome's pleasure dome, = but above all a deeply stirred & stirring affirmation of poetry's = centrality in realizing mundane & profound instances in the everyday = extraordinary. Rothenberg's raw footage is disarming; sly, = self-effacing, proclaiming, doubting, affirming. You can read it in one = sitting, say blurboligists, but it takes at least a lifetime. & then = what?=20 -David Meltzer Born in Miami Beach, Florida in 1951, Michael Rothenberg is a poet and = songwriter. He has been an active environmentalist in the San Francisco = Bay Area for the past 25 years, where he cultivates orchids and = bromeliads at his nursery, Shelldance. His broadside "Elegy for the = Dusky Seaside Sparrow" was selected Broadside of the Year by Fine Print = Magazine. The broadside of his poem "Angels" was produced in limited = edition by Hatch Show Prints as part of The Country Music Foundation's = museum resources. His songs have appeared in the films Shadowhunter, = Black Day Blue Night and Outside Ozona. He is also editor and co-founder = of Big Bridge Press and Big Bridge, an online magazine. Michael = Rothenberg divides his time between Pacifica, California and Miami, = Florida and is on the constant lookout for bottle caps and pennies for = his son Cosmos.=20 Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 00:28:12 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: elen gebreab Subject: FW: FUTUREPOEM BOOKS OPEN READING PERIOD Comments: To: Brown Writing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: info@futurepoem.com [mailto:info@futurepoem.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:54 PM To: info@futurepoem.com Subject: FUTUREPOEM BOOKS OPEN READING PERIOD FUTUREPOEM BOOKS OPEN READING PERIOD The next open reading period for Futurepoem books will be held during the month of September 2004. Manuscripts must be postmarked during the month of September 2004 to be considered for publication in Fall/Winter 2005/Spring 2006. Editors for this reading period will be Ammiel Alcalay, Jen Hofer, Prageeta Sharma and Dan Machlin Futurepoem is interested in receiving unpublished book-length works of innovative poetry, shorter prose, and hybrid works of literature. For the open call, we cannot currently consider works-in- translation. Manuscripts that include work previously published in limited-edition chapbooks are acceptable. We will consider non-U.S. work written in English. Out of kindness to our volunteer editors, we ask that each person submit only one manuscript. Please enclose three (3) copies of your manuscript to: Futurepoem books P.O. Box 34 NY, NY 10014 USA Please enclose a self-addressed envelope with proper postage if you would like to be notified of eventual selections, and a SASE postcard if you would like to be informed of manuscript receipt. Sorry, we cannot return manuscripts (but will recycle all) so please do not enclose an envelope for manuscript return. Publication decisions will be announced by end of March 2005. Questions to: submissions@futurepoem.com More information at http://www.futurepoem.com Titles: Mad Science in Imperial China, Shanxing Wang (spring 2005) Near Life Experiences, Michael Ives (fall/winter 2004/05) Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Merry Fortune (spring 2004) The Escape, Jo Ann Wasserman (fall/winter 2003) Under the Sun, Rachel Levitsky (spring 2003) Some Mantic Daemons, Garrett Kalleberg (fall/winter 2002) Futurepoem books is supported by your book purchases, words of encouragement, teaching of our books, invitations to well-paying gigs and individual donations. We are also supported in part by recent grants from The New York State Council on the Arts Literary Program, The New York Community Trust, The Fund for Poetry and the volunteer efforts of our advisory and editorial board, and other staff. Futurepoem receives tax exempt status for all donations through Fractured Atlas Productions, Inc., NY, NY. 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What's it called. You know. - http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3744C960.1B90@flash.net __ lumber isbn 82-92428-05-4 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 06:24:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Alan Sondheim Week is Ex Post Facto 4-> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Alas, all good things must feed on someone else's things--and Alan Sondheim's Week in the eye of The Personified Third is three thirds complete. Be the first to take a tumble in the Haloscanner (The most ideological aspect of nostalgia is precisely the truth-content of its authenticity--shed an ear for vanity, I'm dying, please say hello). . . . What__comes__first, structure or feeling? Coop or co-op? Reason or mis-en-scene? Consonance daggers assonance, a noun on the rocks. . . -- Andrew. http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:20:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sina Queyras Subject: Re: undergraduate writing resourc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks George. I think we'll be reading a few books as well, believe it = or not. Lots of Canadian ones at that. And thanks to everyone who backchanneled suggestions.=20 Sina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:52:47 -0400 From: George Bowering Subject: Re: undergraduate writing resources >Hi all. >I'm putting together a website for the undergraduate creative >writing program at Rutgers, and while I have a pretty substantial >list already, I'm looking for innovative and exciting >resources/sites. Particularly sites that will explode an >undergraduate's idea of what poetry is--but not only poetry, drama, >fiction, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please back >channel. > >Sina I'd like to suggest some books. Take for instance the Collected Poems of William Carlos Williams. Books are pretty good resources. -- George Bowering Remembers young Elizabeth Taylor's waist ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:12:32 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit purple robes over jeans & sneakers crunch thighs slit high needle heels nyu grads roar into summer... hazy noon...thunderstorm watch...vz broke...drn. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:34:31 -0700 Reply-To: adeniro@rocketmail.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan DeNiro Subject: Call for Submissions: Red Giant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Red Giant will be a one-shot chapbook, a mini-anthology, of speculative poetry and poetry informed by science fiction, with an emphasis on work from experimental and innovative practices. It will be published by the Press of the Taverner in November 2004. Speculative poetry cuts a wide swath through a many different traditions (or anti-traditions) in disparate writing communities, including both science fiction iconographies in popular culture and the language of scientific disciplines. Whether the poetry's roots--in subject matter or processes--are in A Scanner Darkly or The Crystal Text, Tiptree or Prynne, killer androids in role playing games or cybernetics, space opera or quantum mechanics, it's all pretty much fair game for Red Giant. Contributors will receive three copies. The reading period is between the postmark dates of June 1-August 15. Email or print submissions are welcome during this time. Email submissions to editor@taverners-koans.com, with "Red Giant submission" in the subject line. Stories can be snail mailed to: Alan DeNiro, Editor Red Giant PO Box 28701 St. Paul, MN 55128 No reprints. Simul. submissions ok if notified immediately after acceptance somewhere else. Feel free to email the above address with any questions. These guidelines were updated 5.7.04. Feel free to distribute widely. They can also be found at http://www.taverners-koans.com/redgiant.html in their most recent form. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:42:48 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: DeLay Disputes That New Pictures Show 'Horrific Acts': Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press (http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/) DeLay Disputes That New Pictures Show 'Horrific Acts': Pentagon Makes Images Available to House, Senate: Rumsfeld Thumbs His Nose At Congress: Congress Applauds Wildly: by Pauline Hyjeiniks The Anti-Empire Report, No. 10, May 12, 2004 by William Blum They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:22:46 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Small Press Traffic Subject: Jarnot & Sailers at SPT tomorrow night MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Please join us at Small Press Traffic for our final reading of the spring: Friday, May 14, 2004 at 7:30 p.m. Lisa Jarnot & Cynthia Sailers Lisa Jarnot's third collection, Black Dog Songs, is new from Flood Editions. Stan Brakhage writes: "However adrift in linguistic aesthetics, in sheer music-of-rhythmed-sounds, her words are never severed from the means that engendered them; and the consequent meanings are never detached from the meditative drama of each whole poem." Jarnot joins us from NYC; her previous works are Some Other Kind of Mission and Ring of Fire. Her critical biography of Robert Duncan will be published by UC Press next year. Local heroine Cynthia Sailers joins us in celebration of her first full-length collection, Lake Systems, just out from Tougher Disguises. Sailers is a California native (San Diego, 1974) who now lives in Alameda and co-curates the New Brutalism Reading Series in Oakland. Her work has or will appear in various journals, including Aufgabe, 14 Hills, LitVert.com, pompom, Small Tiger, Barn (v.), and Involuntary Vision: Poems after Kurosawa's Dreams. Unless otherwise noted, events are $5-10, sliding scale, free to SPT members, and CCA faculty, staff, and students. Unless otherwise noted, our events are presented in Timken Lecture Hall California College of the Arts 1111 Eighth Street, San Francisco (just off the intersection of 16th & Wisconsin) Our 30th anniversary season begins in September -- yay! Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson Executive Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCA 1111 -- 8th Street San Francisco, CA 94107 415.551.9278 http://www.sptraffic.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:37:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Shankar, Ravi (English)" Subject: Celebrate the Release of Three Books of Poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Book Party Tina Chang=20 Prageeta Sharma=20 =20 Celebrate=20 Half-Lit Houses=20 Tina Chang's poems perform the ancient tasks of remembrance, recovery, = and praise. This work seeks to account for a life in the context of the = myths, cultural and familial, that both nurture and threaten that very = life and the voice that might sing it into legend. This is a poetry of = amazing lushness, melancholy and affirmation.=20 -Li-Young Lee=20 Her mouth is fertile, seeded with incidents from a family history that = lay scattered about like grains of rice upon which our poet kneels. = Misfit and starlet, she wrestles with her father on earth and in Heaven. = Whether seasoned with gunpowder or with sugar, Tina Chang's legacy is = neither entirely Chinese nor American but an inheritance to be spoken = through dialects-a composite language forged out of her many lyrical = selves.=20 -Timothy Liu Instrumentality=20 Instrumentality plays expectations and delivers uncanny reformulations = that seem "predestined, in retrospect." Rave Shaker's poems are filled = with the pleasure of subjects dissolving into ideas, ideas folding into = sounds, and sounds echoing familiar but elusive translocations.=20 -Charles Bernstein This is a very special first book. Ravi Shankar's poems have a fine = tuned sense of form, a rare delight in language. Through wit and = abstraction they reveal a metaphysics of longing, binding us to the = elements of our moving world. -Meena Alexander Quirky, quizzical, inquisitive, Ravi Shankar in Instrumentality goes in = quest of what the oddness of language and imagination can reveal: "a = hush of atoms holding a planet together." By turns, lyrical and = meditative, these poems are guided by a strong intelligence toward = resolutions that are both surprising and apt.=20 -Gregory Orr The Opening Question=20 Sharma is inclined to explore cultural disjunctions, the glide of sound, = power, and perception between people and languages: "you are pointing = west when you say dish, desh." Sometimes she sounds as American as John = Berryman. But at other times Sharma serializes simple declarative = statements or taps into a kind of Berlitz translation diction: "We are = an Indian family with Indian friends from India." In other words, her = imagination is whirring at full tilt, and her approaches to the poem are = varied and fresh and exciting.=20 -Forrest Gander, Boston Review Readings, book signing & libation. Thursday, May 20th, 6:30pm.=20 Asia Society, 725 Park Avenue at 70th Street.=20 For tickets call 212-517-ASIA. http://www.asiasociety.org/events/calendar.pl?rm=3Ddetail&eventid=3D14590= &date=3D5%2F10%2F04&filter_region=3D0&filter_category=3D0&keywords=3D *************** Ravi Shankar=20 Poet-in-Residence Assistant Professor CCSU - English Dept. 860-832-2766 shankarr@ccsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:43:57 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Shankar, Ravi (English)" Subject: Celebrate the Release of Three Books of Poetry Redux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, the titles in question are:=20 > Tina Chang Half-Lit Houses=20 Ravi Shankar Instrumentality=20 > >=20 >=20 Prageeta Sharma The Opening Question=20 Readings, book signing & libation. Thursday, May 20th, 6:30pm.=20 Asia Society, 725 Park Avenue at 70th Street.=20 For tickets call 212-517-ASIA. http://www.asiasociety.org/events/calendar.pl?rm=3Ddetail&eventid=3D14590= &date=3D5%2F10%2F04&filter_region=3D0&filter_category=3D0&keywords=3D *************** Ravi Shankar=20 Poet-in-Residence Assistant Professor CCSU - English Dept. 860-832-2766 shankarr@ccsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 18:10:36 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 5/17-5/19 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =B3...lake/ burnishes imagination/ its closure. Deep falling/ like Prell. Recognition/ claims at sight/ a will to undertake.=B2 --Jean Day * Monday, May 17 Shanna Compton & Joan Larkin Shanna Compton=B9s poems have appeared or are forthcoming in Gastronomics, Nerve, McSweeney=B9s, Pindeldyboz, Painted Bride Quarterly, Boog City, and elsewhere. She is the Associate Publisher of Soft Skull Press and editor of LIT, the journal of the graduate writing program at the New School. Her manuscript Brand New Insects was recently named a finalist for the Alice James Books Beatrice Hawley Award. Joan Larkin=B9s books of poetry include Housework, A Long Sound, Sor Juana=B9s Love Poems (co-translated with Jaime Manrique), and Cold River. She has edited four anthologies of poetry and prose, serves as Poetry Editor for the new queer literary triquarterly, Bloom, and co-edits the Living Out autobiography series for the University of Wisconsin Press. Her other writing includes The Living, a verse play, an= d The Hole In The Sheet, a Klezmer musical farce. Winner of a 1998 Lambda Award for poetry, she teaches writing at Sarah Lawrence and New England Colleges. [8:00 pm] Wednesday, May 19 Julie Patton & Lila Zemborain Julie Patton=B9s multi-dimensional poetics encompasses Julibraries (handmade books and altered texts), Julibrettos (or improvoications), and Ju Ju Pulp-its & Con Texts (where the body gets close to the hand turning the pages of the self as a paper doll). Her performance notes for =B3dOur life in the Ghosts of Bush=B2 were published by Belladonna* as Not so Belladonna but = a Deadly Nightshade, and her book Do Rag on and on is forthcoming from Tender Buttons. She is currently working on her first solo CD for Ravi Coltrane=B9s RKM Records. Lila Zemborain is an Argentine poet who has been living in New York since 1985. Her fourth book, Malvas orqu=EDdeas del mar, is forthcoming from Editorial Ts=E9-Ts=E9 in Buenos Aires. She is also the author of the collections Abrete s=E9samo debajo del agua, Usted, and Guardianes del secreto, and the chapbooks Germinar, Ardores, and Pampa. She is the author of the book-length essay Gabriela Mistral: Una mujer sin rostro (Editora Beatriz Viterbo, 2002), the director of Rebel Road, and the editor of Rebel Road: Poems in the Garden. She also curates the KJCC Poetry Series at New York University. [8:00 pm] * ANNOUNCEMENTS: NOW AVAILABLE through the Poetry Project (please see attached photos): Two photo prints by acclaimed photographer Hank O'Neal: One: a silhouette, black & white profile of Allen Ginsberg reading into a microphone while being recorded on July 27, 1987. Two: a black & white shot of Ginsberg and William Burroughs sitting side-by-side on a piano bench in O'Neal's apartment holding hands. Photo taken February 9, 1984. The photos were specially printed and mounted by Hank O'Neal for the Poetry Project, each in an edition of ten and signed by O'Neal. Dimensions: approx 16 1/2" x 20 1/2".=20 Price is $150 per photo. For more information, call 212-674-0910, or e-mail us at info@poetryproject.com. Payment can be made via cash, check or credit card.=20 * Benefit reading for Coffee House Press at the Bowery Poetry Club Featuring five stellar Coffee House authors: Marjorie Welish, Mary Caponegro, Greg Hewett, Elaine Equi, and Quincy Troup= e Thursday, May 20th, 7:00 p.m. Suggested $10 donation; $15 w/ free hurt book Bowery Poetry Club 308 Bowery (between Bleeker and Houston) F train to Second Ave. or 6 train to Bleeker St. Phone: 212-614-0505 www.bowerypoetry.com Email with any questions * The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 19:47:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Bukowski film MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BUKOWSKI: BORN INTO THIS A Film by John Dullaghan Official Selection Sundance Film Festival 2003 Official Selection Tribeca Film Festival 2003 ""Wordsworth, Whitman, William Carlos Williams and The Beats in their respective generations moved poetry toward a more natural language. = Bukowski moved it a little farther." - Los Angeles Times Book Review Premiering May 28th at Landmark's Lumiere Theatre and the Landmark Act 1 = & 2! Author Charles Bukowski was one of those rare writers whose work created = a myth of epic proportions around its creator. Over the years, the name "Bukowski" has become synonymous with screwing, drinking and fighting, = seedy barrooms, low-paying jobs and low-rent hotel rooms. For readers, = Bukowski has come to personify the lower depths of human existence; in a direct, powerful and very personal style, he writes about an unthinkable but = very real degradation, based on his own life experiences. BUKOWSKI: BORN INTO THIS, the first comprehensive documentary of Charles Bukowski (1920-1994), traces his extraordinary life < from an abusive childhood through decades of poverty and alcoholism; numerous menial = jobs and turbulent relationships; through 14 years as a postal employee; and = his eventual international celebrity as a poet, novelist and underground = cult icon. In his lifetime, Bukowski became most widely known as the = screenwriter and real-life model for BARFLY, the feature film based on his early = life. Director John Dullaghan spent seven years researching and shooting = BUKOWSKI, traveling the world to obtain rare archival material, and conducting = dozens of interviews with relatives, teenage pals, fellow post office workers, girlfriends and other poets, as well as better-known friends like Bono, = Sean Penn, Harry Dean Stanton, Barbet Schroeder and Taylor Hackford. = Bukowski's wife Linda, with whom Dullaghan helped organize the Bukowski archive in = San Pedro, CA, is also a key commentator. While the film was undertaken out of an appreciation for Bukowski, = Dullaghan goes to great lengths to present the different sides of the author, = offering the most revealing look yet of Bukowski and his work. The result is a = film that peels off the hardened mask of the mythic Bukowski to reveal the insecure, loving and extremely human man=20 "A definitive screen overview of the L.A. booze bard, BUKOWSKI: BORN = INTO THIS makes a compelling case for raising him from cult status to the top rank of 20th century U.S. literary figures < while providing ample = evidence of a very colorful life and times... A particularly entertaining screen bio... A coherent, engrossing narrative." Dennis Harvey, Variety For Showtimes: San Francisco http://www.landmarktheatres.com/Market/SanFrancisco/SanFrancisco_Frameset= .ht m Berkeley Landmark's Nuart Theatre 1572 California Street (415) 267-4893 Landmark Act 1 & 2 2128 Center Street (510) 464-5980 For multimedia, links, bio, forum, and newsletter: http://www.magpictures.com/distribution/bukowski/index.htm "An amazing documentary! For Bukowski fans, this is a dream come true. = " - Film Threat http://www.magpictures.com/distribution/main.php Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:05:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Halvard Johnson Subject: FW: MEXICO WRITERS RETREAT WITH JANICE EIDUS & BEVERLY DONOFRIO IN BEAUTIFUL SAN MIGUEL DE ALLENDE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit THE WRITERS WORKSHOP IN BEAUTIFUL SAN MIGUEL DE ALLENDE STUDY FICTION WRITING & MEMOIR WRITING WITH WRITERS JANICE EIDUS & BEVERLY DONOFRIO IN SAN MIGUEL DE ALLENDE, MEXICO AUGUST 23 - AUGUST 29, 2004 The All-inclusive Fee: $1,800 -- Workshops only: $800 For more information or to register: Email: jodynville@aol.com Phone: 323-306-4068 Space is limited. A deposit of $500 dollars is required. All fees are in US dollars. The glorious spring-like weather throughout August makes San Miguel a perfect travel destination. San Miguel possesses European ambience -- it is stunning, cultured, and urbane. Nestled in the Sierra Madres north of Mexico City, San Miguel has made a name for itself in writing and artistic circles around the world with its quaint, seductive charm -- including its four-century old churches, cobblestone streets, and shady, peaceful gardens. We invite you to immerse yourself in luxury while writing, sharing, and learning in a creative, fun, and inspirational workshop. Your week includes all ground transportation, hotel, all meals, spa treatments, day tours and classes in traditional Mexican cooking. Students will also participate in evening readings and receive private critiques with Janice or Beverly. Details on the two workshops follow: MEMOIR WORKSHOP with BEVERLY DONOFRIO Beverly Donofrio, the author of cult classic Riding in Cars with Boys, will present a Memoir Workshop to inspire your inner writer in a safe, noncompetitive environment. "Beverly Donofrio assists the writer to choose the most telling details from his/her life and helps one dig deeper to find the emotion behind the scene." - Susan McKinney de Ortega, author, Tales of My Disappearance When Beverly Donofrio’s memoir, Riding in Cars with Boys, was published in 1990, it helped define the genre. A cult classic, it was made into a Hollywood movie starring Drew Barrymore. Her second memoir, Looking for Mary, was chosen by Barnes and Noble as one of the best books of the year and has since touched hearts everywhere. The president of PEN San Miguel, she has delivered commentaries about her life and experiences on National Public Radio; she has also written for TV, is published in numerous anthologies, and is a frequent contributor to national magazines. Donofrio is an inspirational teacher who will create a safe, noncompetitive environment to help writers of all levels: • Use inventive techniques to stimulate memory and break down defenses • Diminish emotional resistances • Shape experience into story • Compose compelling scenes • Locate voice • Enhance description FICTION WORKSHOP WITH JANICE EIDUS Janice Eidus is a two-time winner of the O. Henry Prize, among other awards. In this workshop, you will explore all the essential elements of writing fiction, while finding new inspiration and focus. "There's simply no other creative writing teacher who has Janice Eidus's passion, dedication, and wisdom. She is singular, and a treasure." -- Lisa Dierbeck, author, One Pill Makes You Smaller Award-winning writer Janice Eidus is actively engaged in long-time love affairs with both writing and teaching. She writes and lectures about such diverse subjects as writing, Jewish identity, women’s issues, creativity, popular culture, and how to get published. She's twice won the O. Henry Prize, as well as a Redbook Prize, a Pushcart Prize, and a National Writers Voice Residency Award, among other awards. She is the author of the short story collections, The Celibacy Club and Vito Loves Geraldine, and the novels, Urban Bliss and Faithful Rebecca, as well as co-editor of It's Only Rock And Roll: an Anthology of Rock and Roll Short Stories. In this supportive and safe workshop, writers of all levels will: • Explore essential elements of fiction • Locate voice • Deepen characterization • Clarify conflict • Enhance description • Develop fresh ideas from our real and imagined lives ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:42:14 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Rumsfeld Defends the Bush/Cheney Gulag Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ Rumsfeld Defends the Bush/Cheney Gulag In Surprise Visit to Iraq: Defense Secretary Visits Abu Ghraib Prison, Plots With Senior Commanders: Bush Said To Be Under Sedation: by Charles Bhulslinger Americans Grapple With Beheading In Iraq; Someone Creates Another Agenda Bender: Exploding The Affliction Of A 'Moral High Ground': "U.S. Military's Failure To Embrace And Promote Healthy Gay Environment Leads To Repression And Abuse," Says Sen. James Inhofe by Torrid Hinter ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 00:01:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: 2400 g / when and where of when of it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 2400 g tremendous waves fluxed on streetcorner http://www.asondheim.org/node5.mp3 heading out to starnoise thus goes another event disappearance is permanency _ when and where of when of it 20:44, when 1:43 when 0 when 2days when 26:27 when 0 when 0 when 3:12 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 14:10 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 26:27 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 20:46 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 3:12 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 3:12 when 14:10 when 0 when 14:10 when 1day when 10:58 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 14 where when 0 when 3:12 when 3:12 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 5days when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 6days when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 5 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 14:10 0 when 0 when 0 when 3:12 when 1day when 18:05 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 22:12 when 18:05 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 18 where when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 18:05 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 0 when 18:05 when 0 when 0 when 19:11 when 0 when 0 p0 where p1 p2 where p3 p4 where p5 p6 where p7 p8 where p9 pa where pb pc where pe pf where pg ph where pi pj pk where pl pm where pn po where pp pq where pr ps where pt pu where pv q1 where q2 q3 where q4 q5 where q6 q7 where q8 q9 where qa qb where qd qe qf where qg qh where qi qj where qk qm where qn qo where qp qq where qr qs where qt qv where r0 r1 where r2 r3 where r4 r5 where r6 r7 where r8 r9 ra where rb rc where rd re where rf rh where ri rj where rl rm where rn ro where rp rq where rr rs where rt ru where s0 s3 where s4 s5 where s6 s7 s8 where s9 sa where sb sg where sr su where t2 ft where ft days, when 6:01AM 6:23AM Thu09PM Wed12AM when 10:48AM when 8:32AM Wed04AM when 10:30AM when 10:44AM when 7:39AM Wed06PM Wed01PM when 11:40AM when 10:49AM Wed12AM when 11:22AM when 11:42AM when 11:44AM when 11:12AM Thu03PM when 10:21AM when 9:20AM Fri03PM when 10:19AM Wed07PM when 10:25AM when 9:07AM when 10:25AM 12:51AM when 10:01AM Thu03PM when 11:46AM Tue07PM Wed07PM Thu03PM Wed06PM Sun01PM Wed06PM when 10:20AM when 10:03AM Fri08AM when 11:02AM Thu03PM when 10:01AM when 10:31AM Wed10PM Tue11PM Wed09AM when 10:16AM when 10:11AM when 8:31AM Thu08PM when 8:51AM when 10:02AM when 11:22AM 10:44AM Thu04PM when 8:34AM when 10:24AM when 9:15AM when 10:24AM when 9:02AM when 11:26AM when 11:00AM 9:37AM when 9:04AM when 10:34AM when 11:25AM Fri02PM when 10:25AM when 9:42AM when 9:43AM Tue08PM Tue12PM Wed05PM when 10:18AM when 11:06AM when 10:47AM when 9:49AM Swhen08PM Wed05PM when 10:57AM Wed10AM when 11:07AM when 11:29AM when 11:11AM when 10:59AM when 11:12AM when 11:14AM Tue04PM when 11:18AM Wed11AM when 11:26AM Tue01PM when 11:26AM when 11:29AM when 11:33AM when 11:34AM Wed05PM Tue03PM Wed01PM Wed02PM when 11:33AM __ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 00:01:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: found worlds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII found worlds Type: Post-AGB Star ICRS 2000.0 = 06 19 58.2160 -10 38 14.691 A [22.95 14.69 128] 1997A&A...323L..4 9P FK5 1950.0 = 06 17 37.02 -10 36 51.5 A [140.39 88.72 127] 1997A&A...323L..49P FK4 1950 = 06 17 37.01 -10 36 51.6 A [141.88 89.91 127] 1997A&A...323L..49P gal = 218.97 -11.76 mb, mv = 9.33 9.02 --- sp type = B8V pm = -10.98 -21.10 A [ 2.77 1.75 128] 1997A&A...323L..49P rv = ./. plx = 2.62 A [2.37] 1997A&A...323L..49P ------------------------------------------------------------------------- V* V777 Mon NSV 2919 ** A 2925AB ADS 4954 AB BD-10 1476 CCDM J06200-1038AB GEN# +1.00044179J GSC 05367-01134 HD 44179 HIC 30089 HIP 30089 IDS 06153-1036 AB IRAS 06176-1036 NAME RED RECTANGLE PPM 217028 RAFGL 915 SAO 151362 TYC 5367- 1134-1 uvby98 100044179 AB YZC 11 1886com HIC 30089 incl CCDM J06200-1038AB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Measurements: SAO: 1 UBV: 1 IRAS: 1 IUE:19 uvby1: 2 Hbet1: 2 Fe_H: 1 ISO: 5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- References: 368 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- After Module Start: After Win 32 After all news: Before news PCIScan: BIOS Logical Drives BeforeCDRom AfterCDRom USB Printers PoitingDevice Keyboard Monitor PCI Cards Disk PnP SW iPAQ iPAQ before iPAQ after Destructor init Destructor middle Destructor after usbdevice Destructor after monitor Destructor after processor Destructor after cdrom Destructor after drive Destructor after partition Destructor after floppy Destructor after printer Destructor after hp_printer Destructor after hp_usb Destructor after hp_pnp Destructor after pci_xml Destructor after port Destructor after bios Destructor after memory Destructor after keyboard Destructor after system Destructor after mouse Destructor after usb_data Destructor after printer_data Destructor after cdrom_data Destructor after disk_data Destructor after pci Destructor after pnp_data Destructor after bios_data Destructor after monitor Destructor end http://www.asondheim.org/node4.mp3 _ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 00:14:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: B=U=S=H MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Fwd: B=U=S=H Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:07:31 -0600 A short poem made up of phrases that actually left George W. Bush's mouth, as arranged by Washington Ghost writer, Richard Thompson. MAKE THE PIE HIGHER I think we all agree, the past is over. This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty And potential mental losses. Rarely is the question asked Is our children learning? Will the highways of the Internet Become more few? How many hands have I shaked? They misunderestimate me. I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity. I know that the human being And the fish can coexist. Families is where our nation finds hope, Where our wings take dream. Put food on your family! Knock down the tollbooth! Vulcanize society! Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher! ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:24:54 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Old Talkingmail Articles Now Online @ Dreamtimevillage.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable everal articles from previous Dreamtime Talkingmails have been posted on the website: Permanent TAZs by Hakim BEY: TAZ-theory tries to concern itself with existing or emerging situations rather than with pure utopianism.=A0=A0 All over the world people are leaving or "disappearing" themselves from the Grid of Alienation and seeking ways to restore human contact... http://www.dreamtimevillage.org/articles/permanent_taz.html Proposal for a Semi-Permeable Dreamtime by Peter Lamborn Wilson: In trying to arrive at "graceful skill" in the planning and carrying-out of celebration - or what might be called FESTAL ZEN - a nice balance of structure and spontaneity is required... http://www.dreamtimevillage.org/articles/semi-permeable.html Taking Off from Zone Zero by Elizabeth Was: In permaculture, one maps out one's land in terms of Zones, designing it according to distance, usage of the plants, tending requirements, etc. You'd plant your culinary herbs in Zone 1, for example, just outside the door or even on the windowsill. The vegetable garden might be in Zone 2, animals in Zone 3, nurseries or orchards in Zone 4 , & Zone 5 would be the woods. You won't find Zone 0 in many permaculture books, but I understand it as the self, located somewhere in or near the body, & it is the Zone that most concerns me personally... http://www.dreamtimevillage.org/articles/taking_off_zone_zero.html The NO GO ZONE by Hakim Bey: ...I'm thinking of certain old European genre paintings which always fascinated me as a child, depicting peasants or gypsies living in the ruins of some vanished empire -- usually Roman. The images appealed to a Bachelardian sense of reverie and magic about certain kinds of "home", certain kinds of "space". I like the sense of abandonment implied in the paradox of abandoned ruins brought to life by "abandoned" bohemians, low-lifes, Breughelian fiddlers and dancers -- the contrast of the heavy remains of vanished triumphalism with the lightness and brightness of nomads... http://www.dreamtimevillage.org/articles/no_go_zone.html Quantum Eschatology by Professor Nicholas Edwards: ...eat the spectacle and spit it out through on board avid, dat the birds in the morning and internet it by afternoon, drink herbal teas, hear the scream of the mandrake and lick the flesh of the gods, charter astral planes, tour the globe and create hemp farms in eastern europe, revive biodeversity, occupy and take over universities, create crop circles from the heights of invisibility... http://www.dreamtimevillage.org/articles/quantum_eschatology.html Inside Zone Zero by Elizabeth Was In Her Guy Dance with the Quantum Egg: Sickness, Synchrons, & the Dark: Red, yellow, purple, blue. Sweet summer flower colors. Yeah, well these are the colors of my skin as the birds chirp outside our bedroom window. That's a plant of a different color, isn't it? I'll call it poison ivy: That's the plant I unwittingly chose two weeks ago as my current teacher. Like a zen master she sits comfortably back there on that hill, smiling at me as I wriggle & burn up from the inside out with a fever & a fervor to match any lusty young lover half my age... http://www.dreamtimevillage.org/articles/inside_zone_zero.html Inside Zone Zero - a continuing column by elizabeth was CONCERNING a permaculture of the self Part III. EXO - INDO: The Healing Chameleon: An old turtle makes her way slowly forward, between the railroad tracks, each step, solid as armor. "My feet touch the warm brown earth." She has just woken from a dream about exposure - blind naked shell-less fleshy vulnerability - a place she knows she has to visit, again and again... http://www.dreamtimevillage.org/articles/zone_zero.html More to come! for your edification and entertainment... Dreamtime Village hypermedia / permaculture ecovillage http://www.dreamtimevillage.org=A0=A0 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 03:41:02 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bzzz bzzz bzzz huge horsefly settles on po book shelf in front of photo of Buddha pasted onto cube on which sits a small Buddha statue i read the fly is still as my unquiet mind forever o order of magnitude bzzz bzzz bzzzzzzz zzzz...3:00....plus....vz fixeed.....drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:04:17 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Allen Bramhall Subject: rockets and sentries blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 466 entries over 9 months in my writing blog, a daily exercise and serial endeavour www.rocketsandsentries.blogspot.com also, my bloggy blog: http://www.tribute-airy.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:17:36 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: sixth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII sixth # Notebook Database File #-------------------------------------------------- # fifth #-------------------------------------------------- # fourth #-------------------------------------------------- # Home #-------------------------------------------------- # Index page Index {[@pageIndex@]} 1073282911 #-------------------------------------------------- # Recent Changes page {Recent Changes} {[@recentChanges@]} 1073282911 #-------------------------------------------------- # Search page Search {[@searchIndex@]} 1073282911 #-------------------------------------------------- # Second #-------------------------------------------------- # sixth page sixth {The videotape of the beheading last night - I downloaded and examined for hidden characters/messages - left me feeling nightmarish; it combines with memories of reading the medical cases in Nazi Germany, the tortures in Israel, body parts in Gaza, prison torture images, and it doesn't help that both men assassinated in Iraq were Jews; our army is Jewish, Jews are everywhere and will bring the world down with them. I am included; I will do my part; today I left the netbehaviour email list after replying in kind or too vehemently to an attacker of the SMASH piece which I stand behind. All of us have our horrors and horror-stories; the worst in fact is the necessity of defense... Today reading in the following: The Electric Interurban Railways in America, Hilton and Due, Stanford - well this is cheering; I remember such from Wilkes-Barre to Scranton when I was very young - unfortunately, unlike, say, as in Japan, they didn't last - Writings on Art and Literature, Freud, Stanford as well and all the usual suspects. From the period of the _understandable world._ Women's Writings 1778-1838, An Anthology, edited by Fiona Robertson - this is in the Oxford World's Classics, and is wonderful - an amazing period - Hemans is in it, Shelley as well - Prophetic Writings of Eleanor Davies, Esther S. Cope, Oxford. A 17th-century prophet - there were apparently quite a few. Rushed writing almost in a religious frenzy, quite wonderful. And this - The Human Impact Reader, Readings and Case Studies, edited by Andrew Goudie - really _can_ recommend this from 1997, Blackwell. We need to be reminded of these concrete particulars - for example - Lowering of a Shallow, Saline Water Table by Extensive Eucalypt Reforestation - these things are serious although they appear perhaps minor, anecdotal - but in fact, for example again, reforestation is a highly contested issue worldwide - Meanwhile the earth totters, suffers, one takes notes, leaves lists, waits for exhaustion to kick in, no more thinking in these parts - } 1084508568 #-------------------------------------------------- # third #-------------------------------------------------- # User Code page {User Code} {#Tcl -- Enter new commands below} 1073282911 # End of Notebook Database File ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:11:14 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Re: Rumsfeld Defends the Bush/Cheney Gulag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rumsfeld visits Abu Ghraib Prison, where he is immediately stripped and put on a leash. He barks a few times, then rolls over laughing. It turns out it was all part of an immense prank by Tom Delay, in order to embarrass the Red Cross and other liberals. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Brennan" To: Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: Rumsfeld Defends the Bush/Cheney Gulag > Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ > > Rumsfeld Defends the Bush/Cheney Gulag In Surprise Visit to Iraq: > Defense Secretary Visits Abu Ghraib Prison, Plots With Senior Commanders: > Bush Said To Be Under Sedation: > by Charles Bhulslinger > > Americans Grapple With Beheading In Iraq; Someone Creates Another Agenda > Bender: > Exploding The Affliction Of A 'Moral High Ground': > "U.S. Military's Failure To Embrace And Promote Healthy Gay Environment Leads > To Repression And Abuse," Says Sen. James Inhofe > by Torrid Hinter ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:44:55 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: lilly prize MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Outsider' poet awarded $100,000 By Charles Storch Tribune staff reporter May 12, 2004 Kay Ryan, a California poet who has shied from even the small limelight verse affords, was named Tuesday the winner of the $100,000 Ruth Lilly Prize. The honor, one of the richer verse prizes, was bestowed by the Chicago-based Poetry Foundation, publisher of Poetry magazine and the beneficiary of a gift expected to exceed $100 million from Indianapolis philanthropist Lilly. The foundation has given the award since 1986. Poetry editor Christian Wiman, one of the prize judges, said Ryan has "simply made no effort to promote herself, concentrating instead on honing a small, idiosyncratic and durable body of work." He said her poems are "very spare. They are always short but not small. She takes on big subjects." Reached at her home in Fairfax, Calif., Ryan said of her image as an "outsider" poet: "The limelight didn't come seeking me particularly until now." Winning the Lilly "made me feel wonderful to know there are many ways of achieving recognition. One way is staying home and doing your work and not gadding about," she said. The 59-year-old native of San Jose, Calif., has spent the last 33 years as a part-time teacher of basic writing skills in Marin County. "I like it," she told Salon.com several years ago. "It's just as uncomplicated as giving blood." She said her poetry is "brief, amusing, demanding, filled with all sorts of sound devices, like rhymes but not above puns." Ryan had been primarily known to small-press readers until The New Yorker magazine began publishing her works a decade ago. She has written five collections, the most recent being "Say Uncle" in 2000. An early admirer of her work was poet and critic Dana Goia. In a 1999 essay in Dark Horse magazine, Goia, now the chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts, cited "the unusual compression and density of Ryan's work." Copyright © 2004, Chicago Tribune -- --------------------------- Newfoundland Tories put culture in a COMA http://www.donotpadlocktherooms.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:17:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Bay Area Summer Poetry Marathon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Come celebrate innovative poetry all summer long at >THE 2004 BAY AREA SUMMER POETRY MARATHON ! >______________________________________ > > >SATURDAY, MAY 29 at The Lab, 2948 16th Street, San Francisco (16th >& Mission BART stop: one block east on 16th) > >** AFTERNOON ** 12 noon ? 4pm >Steve Ajay, Taylor Brady, Brent Cunningham, Maria Damon, Susan >Gevirtz, Kristen Hanlon, John Isles, Wendy Kramer, Camille Roy > >** EVENING ** 6:30pm ? 9:30 pm >Betsy Davids, Trane DeVore, kari edwards, Barbara Guest, Kevin >Killian, Aaron Shurin, Carol Snow >______________________________________ > >SATURDAY, JUNE 26 >at 21 Grand, 449 23rd Street, Oakland >(19th Street BART: four blocks up Broadway, then turn left onto 23rd) > >** AFTERNOON ** 12 noon ? 4pm >Julie Carr, Rob Halpern, Bill Luoma, James Meetze, Chris Nealon, >Eleni Stecopoulos, Hugh Steinberg, Eileen Tabios, Stephanie Young > >** EVENING ** 6:30pm ? 9:30pm >Rae Armantrout, Maxine Chernoff, Paul Hoover, Laura Moriarity, >Denise Newman, Elizabeth Robinson, Kit Robinson >______________________________________ > >SATURDAY, JULY 24 >at The Lab, 2948 16th Street, SF (16th & Mission BART stop: one >block east on 16th) > >** AFTERNOON ** 12 noon ? 4pm >Stefani Barber, Laynie Brown, Mary Burger, Del Ray Cross, Steve >Dickison, Robert Gluck, Yedda Morrison, Jocelyn Saidenberg, Cynthia >Sailers > >** EVENING ** 6:30pm ? 10:00pm >Opal Palmer Adisa, Dodie Bellamy, Patricia Dientsfrey, Edward >Foster, Claudia Keelan, Donald Revell, Leslie Scalapino >______________________________________ > >SATURDAY, AUGUST 21 >at 21 Grand, 449 23rd Street, Oakland >(19th Street BART: four blocks up Broadway, then turn left onto 23rd) > >** AFTERNOON ** 12 noon ? 4pm >Jim Behrle, Sean Finney, Roxi Hamilton, Rodney Koeneke, Hazel >McClure, Rusty Morrison, Mike Sikkema, Brian Teare, Elizabeth >Treadwell > >** EVENING ** 6:30pm ? 9:30pm >Norma Cole, Gloria Frym, Robert Hass, Lyn Hejinian, Brenda Hillman, >Michael Palmer, Bin Ramke >______________________________________ > >For more information, contact Donna de la Perriere & Joseph Lease at >baypoetrymarathon@juno.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:35:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jeffre Jullic Subject: Bombay Gin (Naropa) question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I bought Bombay Gin # 29, the Naropa literary journal, at the St. Mark's Bookstore the other night. (It's a great read.) The frontispiece says "Submission guidelines are available on-line at www.naropa.edu/gin.html" ---but, in fact, that URL comes up "Not Found." The issue still does provide a mailing address for them at Naropa, ---but I'm wondering if there was supposed to be any essential information at that defunct website, like reading periods or something. Does anybody know more about Bombay Gin and these questions? Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:55:47 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Machlin Subject: Futurepoem Book Release Party Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Poetry City & Futurepoem books invite you to a book party to celebrate =20= the publication of: GHOSTS BY ALBERT AYLER, GHOSTS BY ALBERT AYLER Poems by Merry Fortune (selected by Brenda Coultas, Laird Hunt, Anselm Berrigan & Dan Machlin) Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:00 P.M., FREE Teachers & Writers Collaborative 5 Union Square West, 7th Floor (between 14th and 15th Sts.) with readings by Fortune, Lewis Warsh, Kim Lyons, and Peter Bushyaeger & Wine and cheese reception. Directions: 4,5,6,L,N,R to Union Square, F to 14th Street. =93In a madcap grammar handbook about the love that lives inside a = savage world, Merry Fortune holds the keys to the tender ode, the raw =20 confession and the syntactically exhilarating manifesto. Ghosts will surprise you with its sharpness and its joy. Read this book because it's excellently funny and read this book because it's seriously good.=94 =97Lisa Jarnot =93Merry Fortune=92s poems are sort of broken and beautiful and =20 melodic=97-she=92s awkwardly smart. She=92s sort of like Francois = Villon. =20 She=92s kind of a twenty-first century Susie Timmons. The fact that = she=92s =20 doing music (I mean working with musicians) is only more evidence of =20 her greatness. She=92s a cat orchestra. She=92s cartooniness without = even =20 pictures or laughs.=94 =97Eileen Myles =93Merry Fortune=92s poems are sudden & direct, profligate in their =20 engagement with beauty (sordid & sublime), and always inspiring. She =20= writes in the time lapse between the hand and the eye=97 =91the = brainchild =20 crocus of stability=92=97and never slows down.=94 =97Lewis Warsh =93I'm an electric guitarist. Merry Fortune is an electric poet.=94 =97Marc Ribot =93 . . . a microscopic gauntlet of =93imaginary landscapes=94 where the = =20 spiritual and pedestrian share parity in a squirmingly comfortable way =20= at both exhilarating heights and disquieting depths. Created at times =20= are edgy musical messages, just as Ayler=92s strange, simple, = melancholic =20 melodies shared space with his weird impassioned howling and plaintive, =20= overflowing cries. . . . Desire=92s internal struggle opens into a =20 sometimes frantic, sometimes sublime, always abstract abyss called =20 life.=94 =97Steve Dalachinsky Merry Fortune is a poet, musician, and environmentalist of German and =20= Native American descent. She is a former editor of The World, editor of =20= Pagan Place (with Robert Martens), and former coordinator for the =20 Poetry Project Monday night reading series. She has appeared in several =20= anthologies: The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry (Thunder=92s Mouth), = The =20 Portable Boog Reader (Boog Literature), and The Unbearables =93Help =20 Yourself!=94 Anthology (Autonomedia). Her poems, reviews and articles =20= have appeared in The Poetry Project Newsletter; Boog-City; Brooklyn =20 Review; Lungfull!; Fire (UK); High Times; Rattapallax; 6ix; Tamarind; =20= CanWeHaveOurBallBack?; E-News online magazine and G (publications of =20 the NYS Green Party). She is currently working on a compilation of =20 essays, conversations, and profiles featuring dedicated and articulate =20= artists, activists and politicians=97previous interviews include: Penny =20= Arcade, Stanley Aronowitz, Darius James, Mary Jo Long, Wanda Phipps, =20 and Wreckless Eric. She has a collaboration with musicians Don =20 Christensen, Pat Place and Julia Murphy (FAT) on the 3-CD compilation =20= State of the Union (Electronic Music Foundation) produced by Elliott =20 Sharp and is producing a recording titled The Love Dogs of Misfortune =20= featuring musicians Daniel Carter, Don Christensen, Dee Pop, Barry =20 Seroff, Dave Sewelson, Marc Ribot, and Drew Waters. Merry was born in =20= downtown Brooklyn and currently lives and works in New York City. Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Ghosts by Albert Ayler is book #4 in the =20 Futurepoem series, selected by 2002/03 editors Brenda Coultas, Anselm =20= Berrigan, Laird Hunt and Dan Machlin. Previous titles: The Escape, Jo Ann Wasserman http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/=20 BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680027) Under the Sun, Rachel Levitsky http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/=20 BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680019) Some Mantic Daemons, Garrett Kalleberg http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/=20 BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680000) Futurepoem is a brooklyn-based publishing collective that publishes =20 innovative poetry and prose. It is supported in part by the New York =20= State Council from the Arts Literature Program, The Fund for Poetry, =20 The New York Community Trust, subscribers and individual donors. =20 Donations are tax-deductible through our non-profit sponsor Fractured =20= Atlas Productions, Inc. Futurepoem books can be ordered from SPD =20 books, www.spdbooks.org. For more information, go to =20 http://www.futurepoem.com.= ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:51:23 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Skip Fox Subject: Re: Bombay Gin (Naropa) question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Selby's list http://www.selbyslist.com/ _had_ an active link for _Bombay Gin_ up to two weeks ago. They might be updating to reflect current contents &c. Jeffre Jullic wrote: > > I bought Bombay Gin # 29, the Naropa literary journal, > at the St. Mark's Bookstore the other night. (It's a > great read.) > > The frontispiece says "Submission guidelines are > available on-line at www.naropa.edu/gin.html" ---but, > in fact, that URL comes up "Not Found." > > The issue still does provide a mailing address for > them at Naropa, ---but I'm wondering if there was > supposed to be any essential information at that > defunct website, like reading periods or something. > > Does anybody know more about Bombay Gin and these > questions? > > Thanks. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. > http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:26:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brett Fletcher Lauer Subject: Come celebrate the launch of CROWD #4 In-Reply-To: <90.45be69f1.2dc7fff6@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thursday, May 20th at 7pm Short readings by contributors Timothy Donnelly, Stefania Heim & Ed Park Zinc Bar 90 W. Houston at LaGuardia Place New York City Admission is FREE. CROWD # 4 features work by: Rebecca Curtis * Timothy Donnelly * Peter Gizzi * Matthea Harvey * Anthony Hawley * Terrance Hayes * Steve Healey * Stefania Heim * Brian Henry * Sheila Heti * Lisa Lubasch * Mebdh McGuckian * Corey Mead * Travis Nichols * Ed Park * Graham Parks * Peter Richards * Elizabeth Robinson * Matthew Rohrer * Tomaz Salamun * Jef Scharf * Laurie Sheck * Craig Thompson * Elizabeth Young Show Some Love: Single Issue $10 One Year Subscription (2 issues) $18 Crowd 487 Union Street, 3rd Floor Brooklyn, New York 11231 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:58:43 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tenney Nathanson Subject: time to buy your tickets for the BIG POG RAFFLE: drawing May 24! Comments: To: Tenney Nathanson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit BIG POG RAFFLE MAY 24 Dear Friends of POG: We’re now holding our first annual raffle. Tickets are on sale and the big drawing will take place on Monday, May 24 (in the UA English Department, drawing supervised by rafflemeister Stephanie Pearmain). We have collected well over $1,000 in prizes. Tickets are $5 each, or 5 for $20. So you can support POG’s poetry and arts mission while enjoying a good chance to win valuable prizes! To purchase tickets, you can: · email POG president Tenney Nathanson at mailto:nathanso@u.arizona.edu or mailto:pog@gopog.org (we can accommodate long distance orders from those not in Tucson) · phone 615-7803 and leave a message · leave a note in Tenney Nathanson’s box at the UA English Department For an up-to-date list of available prizes, please check the POG website: www.gopog.org. Here’s a list of the prizes already available: POG Raffle Prizes Raffle Drawing on May 24, 2004 Bookman’s Gift Certificates, Where You Can Buy Books, Music, Games, Videos and DVD’s. · 1 $200 gift certificate donated by POG member Elizabeth Landry. · 2 $50 gift certificates donated by a generous POG member. · 3 $20 gift certificates donated by Bookman’s. Buffalo Exchange, Tucson’s Home for New and Recycled Fashion and Home Accessories. ($200 total value) · 1 $15 Gift Certificate · 2 Sets of 2 Candelabras · 2 Hanging Votive Holders · 1 Gift Set with Candle, Japanese Journal, and Hip Plastic Bracelets. · 1 Gift Set with Cool Magnets, Hip Plastic Bracelets, and a Book. Antigone Books, A Tradition in Bookselling on 4th Avenue. · 1 $15 gift certificate Reader’s Oasis, A Great Local Independently Owned Bookstore with New, Used, and Special Order Books. · $20 Gift Certificate Jamba Juice, Your Home for Delicious, Nutritious, Energizing Smoothies and Juices. Each one is filled with refreshing fruit flavor and provides 3-6 servings of fruit to get you on your way to 5-a-day. · 2 $20 Gift Sets with Mug and Coupons for Free Smoothies Macy’s · 1 Fragrance gift basket Kore Press, A Tucson Area Publisher. Kore Press is named for the idea that women are agents of change. This nonprofit press publishes passionate, experimental and often collaborative literature by diverse women whose perspectives don’t often reach the mainstream. · A Selection of Books from Kore Press Chax Press: “Whether working with handset type, Vandercook proof press, carved wood blocks, linen threads and fine papers, or with computers, Chax Press books celebrate the changing shape of American poetry by presenting experimental works with humanist commitment.” · 3 Sets of Selected Books from Chax Press Antennae, a Biannual Journal of Experimental Poetry and Music/Performance edited by Jesse Seldess. · A Set of Issues 3, 4, and 5 of Antennae, a $20 Value · Shelia Murphy, POG Member and Amazing Poet. · 1 Set of Shelia Murphy’s Books Private Yoga Lessons with Yoga Instructor Suzanne Clores. · 1.5 Hour Private Yoga Session, a $45 Value Private Dance Lessons with Dance Instructor Rachel Traywick · 1 Session of Private Dance Lessons Art Therapy Self Investigation Experience. · A 1.5 Hour Session with Clinician, Teacher, and Trainer Millie Chapin Desiree Rios, Renowned Tucson Photographer. · 1 Original Photograph from Photographer Desiree Rios Professional Software Training from GlobalEye Systems. · 1 Hour of Photoshop Training, A $100 Value Kaplan Test Prep and Admissions Training. · 1 Test Prep Book Jessica Thompson, Tucson painter. · 2 paintings (Please note: in order to maximize our fundraising, we are allowing POG members to purchase raffle tickets.) Thanks for participating in the raffle and helping POG! Sincerely, Tenney Nathanson for POG ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:02:30 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Poll Reveals Iraqis Revere Rumsfeld Like A God Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ Rumsfeld Flees Into Exile In Iraq: Latest Post-White House Poll Reveals Iraqis Revere Rumsfeld Like A God: Bremer Promises Former Secretary Of State Terror A Prominent Place On Iraqi Coveting Council: Some Warn Iraqi Overture May Be A Ruse: Mrs. Rumsfeld Settles On Comfortable Home In Fallujah Suburb By YASO ADIODI They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:48:05 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Small Press Traffic Subject: spt event CANCELLED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear All, I'm very sorry but due to circumstances beyond our control, we have had to cancel the reading by Lisa Jarnot & Cynthia Sailers, scheduled for tonight (May 14). I apologize for the disappointment as well as the late notice, which was unavoidable. It is my hope that we will be able to reschedule both of these great poets to read in our 04-05 season, which will begin in September. Thank you. Elizabeth Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson Executive Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCA 1111 -- 8th Street San Francisco, CA 94107 415.551.9278 http://www.sptraffic.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:30:43 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Hadbawnik Subject: jarnot-brown reading CANCELLED In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lisa Jarnot has cancelled her trip to the West Coast for now due to personal reasons, so tomorrow night's reading (Sat., May 15) is off, too. James Meetze and Sarah Rosenthal are reading next week (Friday, May 21) and I am looking into rescheduling Brandon Brown, possibly for that night -- stay tuned. If anyone wants to stop by for a beer tomorrow night i'll still be around. best, DH -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Small Press Traffic Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:48 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: spt event CANCELLED Dear All, I'm very sorry but due to circumstances beyond our control, we have had to cancel the reading by Lisa Jarnot & Cynthia Sailers, scheduled for tonight (May 14). I apologize for the disappointment as well as the late notice, which was unavoidable. It is my hope that we will be able to reschedule both of these great poets to read in our 04-05 season, which will begin in September. Thank you. Elizabeth Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson Executive Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCA 1111 -- 8th Street San Francisco, CA 94107 415.551.9278 http://www.sptraffic.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:33:56 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: W Benjamin & Color MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 05/12/04 3:01:29 PM, steph484@PACBELL.NET writes: > I am starting a little piece on shop windows and color and the question=20 > came > to mind whether Benjamin ever used color in his own writing. On quick > re-reading, it's clear that he's transparently clear on the architecture o= f > the arcades, the structural use of iron to create the shapes through which > one would stroll, view, etc. But rarely do I see him working his eye to > expose the colors within the architecture. Actual color appears to escape > his critical index. > Then I began to think isn't there a pervasive grayness to his writer - an > analytically superior mind one hand, but mostly colorless. Ironic in terms > of his obsession with the "image" and its import.=A0 Then I began to wonde= r > what would have happened to B's manner of writing and analysis if it had > been invaded and suffused with colors? >=20 > Perhaps it's the absence of a sense of color that permits B a greater in > depth sense of structure (the architecture of situations), yet at the loss > of sensual qualities that either betray or enhance our experience of shop > windows >=20 > Or is B's love of Proust - who breathed color (yet was a great analytical > mind) - informative here. Ironically B's translation of P into German is > supposedly lousy. >=20 > I am sure there are people on this list who know Benjamin much greater tha= n > from my own relatively limited reading. Will appreciate a response >=20 >=20 > Stephen Vincent > (who is obviously not in business of grading finals) >=20 > Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com >=20 Stephen, I have started to think of it. You are right, WB very rarely mentions or=20 describes colors. To me, this does not mean his writing is "gray" in a negat= ive=20 sense. I think it is endlessly imaginative and provocative, making us ask th= e=20 right questions, to which one has to respond. The responses create new=20 directions. Whether one agrees with him or not is to some extent irrelevant. I think his actual translations are not very good, but "The Task of the=20 Translator" is the most provocative exploration of the translation process I= know:=20 I have thought it meant different things at different times in my life. The quotations in "The arcades Project" are what makes the book so=20 fascinating, a "photograph" almost of the structure of 19th century thought.= His=20 "original" parts (shown in the American edition at least by a different font= s) are=20 not as interesting, at least to me. That's perhaps what you mean by the=20 distinction between structure and color. Murat ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 19:50:21 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: swivel chair situationist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In my perambulations through the archives (I suffer from want of poets to jaw-wag-a-with in Taiwan), I came across this description of Guy Debord’s work as fwded (retouched?) by one Charles Bernstein. What fun for the holidays! Go through The Spectacle of Society and replace every instance of ‘spectacle’ with ‘show-biz.’ It's like reading Taiwanese (comp. lit) graduate theses. Almost exactly. >Ben Friedlander passed this bulletin on to me from a clarinet list. I had not yet heard about Debord's death. Having just read the new and worthwhile translation of The Society of the Spectacle for my current graduate seminar, Debord has been very much on my mind. (The description of his work in the notice is quite odd.) --Boundary (ID O3lfGI1F5OAu3opGgZ+Ogg)-- < ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 20:47:31 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: Resent-From: Poetics List Administration Comments: Originally-From: Jaime Robles From: Poetics List Administration Subject: Call for submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Program Director, Would you consider posting the following to your list serve? Five Fingers Review is now accepting submissions for the 2005 issue: Five Fingers Review 21: Uncanny Love. Submissions are due on June 1, 2004. Our reading period is June 1 to August 30, 2004, during which we will be assembling the text of the magazine. Decisions about submissions will be sent out in September 2004. This reading period coincides with our annual fiction and poetry contest, however, you do not need to enter the contest in order to submit work. All our issues are theme-based. For information about the magazine and our annual fiction and poetry contests, visit our website: www.fivefingersreview.org or contact us at jrobles@aaahawk.com. Simultaneous submissions are acceptable. Previously published work or translations are not acceptable. Fiction should be double-spaced; poetry singlespaced. Don't forget to include a self-addressed stamped envelope. The theme for the 2006 issue of the journal is Five Fingers Review 22: The Image of Representation, and will concentrate on the merging of the verbal and visual in writing and art. The reading period for the 2006 issue is June 1 to August 30, 2005. Responses will be sent out in September 2005. You may submit work prior to June 1, 2005 but you may not receive a response until September. Five Fingers Review is a not-for-profit literary magazine located in the San Francisco Bay Area. For over twenty years we have been publishing the best of fiction and poetry by emerging and established writers. With an annually changing staff of guest editors, we are committed to presenting as wide a range of writing styles as possible in a readable and visually engaging format. Visit us at www.fivefingersreview.org. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:40:06 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: FW: Celebration for Douglas Messerli/Chevalier des Artes & Lettres MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Celebration for Douglas Messerli/Chevalier des Artes & Lettres On Saturday, May 22nd, at 4:00 p.m., Green Integer will be hosting a party to celebrate Douglas Messerli=92s being awarded the Chevalier des Artes & Lettres from the French government.=20 =A0 This is a prestigious award, given to people from other countries who have significantly contributed to French culture and its reception around the world.=20 =A0 The award will be given to Douglas at the ceremony by French Cultural Attache, Laurent Deveze. =A0 I hope you all can attend this event. There will be no reading, just drinks, some food, and great company. =A0 Green Integer is located at 6022 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 200A in Los Angeles=97across from the LA Country Museum of Art. =A0 =A0 Per Bregne =09 =09 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:42:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: FW: Martha Ronk's "Prepositional" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seeing Eye has just published "Prepositional" by=20 Martha Ronk. Just as prepositions connect nouns to other words=20 and define the relationships that bind them=20 together, so do the poems that make up=20 "Prepositional" form a nexus of discrete=20 connections linking thought to language,=20 quotidian events, and philosophical meditation,=20 all of which are concerns lie at the heart of=20 Martha Ronk's writing. "Prepositional" is available as part of this=20 year's Seeing Eye Books series, which also=20 includes work by Dolores Dorantes, Val=E8re=20 Novarina, and Candace Pirnak. If you would like=20 to subscribe, please email Guy Bennett for details. Best wishes, Guy Bennett ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 04:17:22 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Karl-Erik Tallmo Subject: LATE nervous WORK roamed THROUGH country PASSED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" LATE nervous WORK roamed THROUGH country PASSED ----------------------------------------------- SECOND topic EDITION CLASS itself PREFACE through NERVOUS details STATED confirmed CHAPTER thesis CAUSES biblious WORLD deplore SPECIAL social VOLUME worse NERVE learn NERVE rests NERVE VARIOUS volume FIRST use BEGAN passing THINK form QUARTER races CENTERED rain TOILING forth HAVING problem OFTEN fresh THEIR animal FORM region BASED passed VARIOUS paths Japan FORMS history CRITICS find REPLIES mimicry THESE stated CRITICS immense THEIR cork FOUND fatal PRESENT period VOLUME THESE Paris THOSE doors LONDON cars TIMES glory THEIR denial RATHER changes GENERAL series EARLIER region DETAILS tribes METHODS central WHICH summer FIRST while TIMES sturdy FOUND heat LECTURE GIVEN chance BEFORE voice MEDICAL cause MEDICAL annual PAPER needs BEFORE trees BRITISH taught REQUIRED windows ANOTHER stream female EVOLVED bear views WITHIN with SEVERE night EASTERN throat UNITED British SENSE orient USED rigidly (1880) SIMPLY regarded EXCESS fear raving ORGANIC homes CHIEF comment PRIMARY subject CAUSED main RAPID least MODERN table WHICH since ANCIENT paper FACTORY WITHOUT methods THESE cold THEIR trust ORIGIN metal FIFTH flow MENTAL surface COUNTRY powers UNDER civil SPRING KNOWN hour FIRST eaters TAKEN after UNDER whence THEIR that MODERN volume GREECE trees ROME civil SPAIN customs THEIR Nevada GLORY oranges FACT essay DISEASE having AMERICA future SOLVE Boston UNFOLD rigor TRACE shows THEIR higher SOURCES derived FORWARD FACT assay EASTERN future SOLVED called PROBLEM gave ITSELF dryness NERVOUS epitome DERIVED stream FIRST hope FIRST Avenue BEEN visiting EUROPE close SIGNS until WORTHY nations NERVOUS among NERVOUS given NERVOUS types ALWAYS work CHRONIC volumes BEAUTY scroll WOMEN eleven TRANCE melted TRAIN alone CHANGE attack HUMOR power SPEECH middle CHANGE science ANIMAL death PARTY peace RESULTS used AMERICA echoes NOTED matters ALSO switches WORK signs RAISED extreme HOSTILITY makes YOUTH young SIMPLY destroy EIGHT party OTHER extent EVILS desire CERTAIN vigor FUTURE rivers PEOPLE shall BRIGHT numbers SIDE edition REPOSE degree SHALL degree VARIOUS delays SHALL with POTENT German HEREIN labor PASSED travel SINCE evolved STAGES student THROUGH spring DENIAL first STAGE woman OTHERS proved SCUD life THIRD write THESE weight STAGES OTHERS wrote PASSED idle WORTHY smoking COMMENT health KNOWN sexual YEARS BECOME beauty MEDICAL nerve THEIR notes THEIR stating EVERY system EVERY bastard READING under THESE critics DESPITE time RAPID states THESE Europe FACTS THEIR topics FUTURE books BEING 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THEIR places LIONEL spent IMPLIED solving FATHERS THEIR famous CONES partly APT FACTS rivers GENERAL times FLOW wiser DRIVEN but LOGICALLY drawn NATURE sought MARKERS started EQUAL least SAID service HERE losing THESE Taylor MIGHT live WISER lately OTHER opposed REALMS unfold URGED poor URGED itself THOSE caused WOULD know THEIR fifth POWERS induce LITTLE effect STUDY enters TOPIC still fairly CLOSE OFFICE dress NATURE causes SCIENCE almost ENNOBLES itself KNOWN rising NATURE affords THOUGHT vastly CALLED HUMAN cells MIND beings SEVERAL ranges SMALL rapid NERVES might UNTIL sense SOME PROBLEMS require MATTERS ocean CALLED nights WHICH water YOUTH quarter TAUGHT factors THEME degree WORTHY special NATURE fogs SOCIAL human ORDER fathers SUBJECT medical CALLS bright EUROPE cross EUROPE ENOUGH brave SCIENCE CRUMBS bird TABLE FRUITS crops FRESH them SMALL rapid NERVES BETTER CONFIRM IDLE WISHERS FIRST OR ELSE CEASE /Karl-Erik Tallmo ________________________________________________________________ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, poet, writer, artist, journalist MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com ARTWORK, WRITINGS etc.: http://www.nisus.se/tallmo/ ________________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:58:21 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit parole speak text q.u.i.e.t.l.y (subtext) 5 to midnite...brad pitt's abs...drn.... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 00:08:47 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sushi chef 'go' watches the Yankees on the front flat screen t.v. & the Nets on the one behind so i order sushi-sashimi combo 'arrigato' midnite..green tea/cold saki hi....drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 00:21:29 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hidden glue trap 'neath the fridge holds this spring's ...a..n...t....s... & winter mouse's bare boned embryo life/death tis the season plus midnite...run harry run...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:58:28 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: sixth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fatarmfuloroses she should be growing roses instead of wearing them on her flesh letters circled in a game wonder words oranges scrambled rhymes hot on top cold on bottom grams of fields of................... ...........spaghetti strength but we can do something about the future. sd ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 00:27:17 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Spring... Comments: To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit so the wind is turning round aleafo china's brighted noodles & the sausage was not duck sd ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:22:34 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Walter Bejamin & Color Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit As something that might be interesting I have joined my original query with several interesting responses. Interestingly no one, so far, has been able to find the use of color(s) in a Benjamin sentence. Which is not to say that such does not exist, but different than, say, Proust, where one cannot imagine Proust without an awareness of the multiple ways he employs color to substantiate 'the thoughts in his prose'. I guess I am most interested in what way the absence of a quality - in this case color - creates in terms of dialog (critical &/or creative) between what is absent and what is present in a work? What does, for example, an absence of color in Benjamin enable in his argument, and how does his refusal literally shade an argument in a particular direction (say, "melancholy", David-Baptiste suggests.) What would happen if someone literally went through Benjamin's texts covered them with transparent multiple-color washes. Or - with Adobe Photoshop - took color to the black and white photographs of the original Paris Arcades to evoke the original period colors as taken from other sources. Would the de-sacralisation of the Benjamin's argumentation - through oppositions and additions - possibly open a new way of looking at the Arcades. I was driven to thinking about these possibilities recently while walking along the boardwalk between Santa Monica and Venice: an open air arcade that led me back to a kind of dialog with Benjamin. But that's a larger or different, tho related story. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ______ I am starting a little piece on shop windows and color and the question > came to mind whether Benjamin ever used color in his own writing. On quick > re-reading, it's clear that he's transparently clear on the architecture > of the arcades, the structural use of iron to create the shapes through > which one would stroll, view, etc. But rarely do I see him working his > eye to expose the colors within the architecture. Actual color appears to > escape his critical index. > Then I began to think isn't there a pervasive grayness to his writing - an > analytically superior mind on one hand, but mostly colorless. Isnit it > ronic in terms of his obsession with the "image" and its import. Then I > began to wonder what would have happened to B's manner of writing and > analysis if it had been invaded and suffused with the materiality and > texture of color. Perhaps it's the absence of a sense of color that > permits B a greater in depth sense of structure (the architecture of > situations), yet at the loss of sensual qualities that either betray or > enhance our experience of shop windows > > Or is B's love of Proust - who breathed color (yet who was a great > analytical and political mind) - informative here. Ironically B's > translation of P into German is supposedly lousy. Was his language flat > there, unable to give color and literally "flesh out" P's. > I am sure there are people on this list who know Benjamin much greater > than my own relatively limited study. Will appreciate a response > > Stephen Vincent Dear Stepehn Vincent: Thank you for your comment and question re Benjamin's lack of sense of color--amazing for someone writing about Baudelaire and as well B's piece on "the painter of modern art". With your comment in mind began trying to recall from readings extensive but some time ago in WB--regarding as well his sense of hearing--recall next to nothing in regards to sounds, music--voices-- It is a world limited primarily to text--the readings of the material world are all filtered through texts--i think in part why he doesn't describe shop windows in terms of color, lighting, the forms employed, arrangements-- It is the same in his writings re "the masses"--they do not function in any partcular way, i.e. they are a kind of indistinguishable silent grey "mass"--to which various textual ideas are attributed-- this allows for much of the aphoristic style he uses, in which words can be moved around the more easily as abstracted to some degree from the senses and particularities. To write of materialism becomes a way towards the eradication of the sensory--hence in some part the positing of the loss of the aura in the face of quantities of reproductions-- I have often wondered if a great deal of the appeal in Benjamin doesn't lie in his being seen as a figure, a configuration--of mourning, of loss--indeed, a world of ruins, allegorical and melancholic--which oddly gives a sense of ethical/moral tone one finds in his writings-- At times he essays countering this with his strident Leftist sloganeering, in phrases that ring with a kind of vehemence at odds with much of the passivity in his work-- I think that as an innately bourgeois subjectivity, he grasps as you note the monumentalities of the arcades, the accumulations therein, the architectural settings for a teeming bric-a-brac-- (One notes his essay on say "The Collector"--) "Benjamin's Baudelaire"--has very much surpassed in critical terms any notion of Baudelaire himself--his writings--without their interpretation via Benjamin--the critic has nearly swallowed the artist--and left of him a figure in an urban landscape--the flaneur and so forth-- (again the political and ethical come into play, converge--the critic is much more acceptable in these ways than the artist--who after all addressed the "hypocrite reader, who resembles me, my brother")-- Perhaps by being so little aware of the sensations of color and sound--Benjamin has missed as well a great in Baudelaire that in Baudelairean terms is of the utmost importance-- The essay on Haschish is also like this--senses of architecture--but liitle else-- Thank you for your comment and question--(again, it is has been many ice ages since have read WB--at one point read a very good deal of him--got much use out of his thinking in many ways--and in others find it too focused on the melancholic--and often too often just mechanically quoted and parroted without the persons doing the quoting really essaying a thinking through--)-- so in the end, it does return again to--text!-- all bests--david-baptiste ** Stephen, I have started to think of it. You are right, WB very rarely mentions or describes colors. To me, this does not mean his writing is "gray" in a negative sense. I think it is endlessly imaginative and provocative, making us ask the right questions, to which one has to respond. The responses create new directions. Whether one agrees with him or not is to some extent irrelevant. I think his actual translations are not very good, but "The Task of the Translator" is the most provocative exploration of the translation process I know: I have thought it meant different things at different times in my life. The quotations in "The arcades Project" are what makes the book so fascinating, a "photograph" almost of the structure of 19th century thought. His "original" parts (shown in the American edition at least by a different fonts) are not as interesting, at least to me. That's perhaps what you mean by the distinction between structure and color. Murat ** I haven't read it but I sell it occasionally-a book called Walter Benjamin - the colour of experience, by Howard CAYGILL: "an interpretation of Benjamin's project & sensibility as one that applied a Kantian concept of experience across an extraordinarily large & unusually diverse range of objects. Caygill argues from Benjamin's writings for an understanding of Benjamin as primarily a thinker of the visual. And in so doing casts new light on much of Benjamin's work". Published by Routledge. Ken Bolton ** Dear Stephen You could begin with two early pieces by Benjamin, Aphorisms on Imagination and Colour, and A Child's View of Colour (both in the Harvard Selected Writings Vol I). There's also a dialogue on the rainbow in the collected works (Der Regenbogen, GS VII, 562-4). The best commentary on the topic is Howard Caygill, Walter Benjamin: the colour of experience (Routledge, 1998) Ian Patterson ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:50:01 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: McFAdden Shot Dead In Philadelphia at 55 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Just heard this on KPOO this morning.... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:03:45 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Frank Sherlock Subject: Re: Whitehead Shot Dead In Philadelphia at 55 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed John Whitehad was murdered earlier this week outside of his home in Germantown, Philly. He was an innocent bystander caught in crossfire as he was fixing his truck. Whitehead (half of the songwriting team McFadden & Whitehead) gave us some of the the best of TSOP. They wrote "Backstabbers", performed by the O'Jays, "I'll Always Love My Mama", performed by The Intruders, & "Wake Up Everybody", performed by Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes. They also recorded their own hit, "Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now", which has been, and will continue to be a Philadelphia anthem. >From: Chris Stroffolino Reply-To: UB Poetics >discussion group To: >POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: McFAdden Shot Dead In Philadelphia at >55 Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:50:01 -0800 > >Just heard this on KPOO this morning.... _________________________________________________________________ Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! http://local.msn.com/special/giveaway.asp ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:31:14 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: Re: Whitehead Shot Dead In Philadelphia at 55 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thanks for the clarification Frank--- money money money money......money! c ---------- >From: Frank Sherlock >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Re: Whitehead Shot Dead In Philadelphia at 55 >Date: Sat, May 15, 2004, 8:03 AM > > John Whitehad was murdered earlier this week outside of his home in > Germantown, Philly. He was an innocent bystander caught in crossfire as he > was fixing his truck. > > Whitehead (half of the songwriting team McFadden & Whitehead) gave us some > of the the best of TSOP. They wrote "Backstabbers", performed by the O'Jays, > "I'll Always Love My Mama", performed by The Intruders, & "Wake Up > Everybody", performed by Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes. They also recorded > their own hit, "Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now", which has been, and will continue > to be a Philadelphia anthem. > > >>From: Chris Stroffolino Reply-To: UB Poetics >>discussion group To: >>POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: McFAdden Shot Dead In Philadelphia at >>55 Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:50:01 -0800 >> >>Just heard this on KPOO this morning.... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win > $1 million! http://local.msn.com/special/giveaway.asp ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:32:14 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Re: Futurepoem Book Release Party In-Reply-To: <8C43F579-A5C7-11D8-B891-0003936C4860@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Back channel me saudade@comcast.net Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Daniel Machlin > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:56 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Futurepoem Book Release Party > > > Poetry City & Futurepoem books invite you to a book party to celebrate > the publication of: > > GHOSTS BY ALBERT AYLER, GHOSTS BY ALBERT AYLER > Poems by Merry Fortune > > (selected by Brenda Coultas, Laird Hunt, Anselm Berrigan & Dan Machlin) > > Tuesday, May 25, 2004 > 7:00 P.M., FREE > > Teachers & Writers Collaborative > 5 Union Square West, 7th Floor > (between 14th and 15th Sts.) > > with readings by Fortune, Lewis Warsh, Kim Lyons, and Peter Bushyaeger > & Wine and cheese reception. > > Directions: 4,5,6,L,N,R to Union Square, F to 14th Street. > > “In a madcap grammar handbook about the love that lives inside a savage > world, Merry Fortune holds the keys to the tender ode, the raw > confession > and the syntactically exhilarating manifesto. Ghosts will surprise you > with its sharpness and its joy. Read this book because it's excellently > funny and read this book because it's seriously good.” > —Lisa Jarnot > > “Merry Fortune’s poems are sort of broken and beautiful and > melodic—-she’s awkwardly smart. She’s sort of like Francois Villon. > She’s kind of a twenty-first century Susie Timmons. The fact that she’s > doing music (I mean working with musicians) is only more evidence of > her greatness. She’s a cat orchestra. She’s cartooniness without even > pictures or laughs.” > —Eileen Myles > > “Merry Fortune’s poems are sudden & direct, profligate in their > engagement with beauty (sordid & sublime), and always inspiring. She > writes in the time lapse between the hand and the eye— ‘the brainchild > crocus of stability’—and never slows down.” > —Lewis Warsh > > “I'm an electric guitarist. Merry Fortune is an electric poet.” > —Marc Ribot > > “ . . . a microscopic gauntlet of “imaginary landscapes” where the > spiritual and pedestrian share parity in a squirmingly comfortable way > at both exhilarating heights and disquieting depths. Created at times > are edgy musical messages, just as Ayler’s strange, simple, melancholic > melodies shared space with his weird impassioned howling and plaintive, > overflowing cries. . . . Desire’s internal struggle opens into a > sometimes frantic, sometimes sublime, always abstract abyss called > life.” > —Steve Dalachinsky > > Merry Fortune is a poet, musician, and environmentalist of German and > Native American descent. She is a former editor of The World, editor of > Pagan Place (with Robert Martens), and former coordinator for the > Poetry Project Monday night reading series. She has appeared in several > anthologies: The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry (Thunder’s Mouth), The > Portable Boog Reader (Boog Literature), and The Unbearables “Help > Yourself!” Anthology (Autonomedia). Her poems, reviews and articles > have appeared in The Poetry Project Newsletter; Boog-City; Brooklyn > Review; Lungfull!; Fire (UK); High Times; Rattapallax; 6ix; Tamarind; > CanWeHaveOurBallBack?; E-News online magazine and G (publications of > the NYS Green Party). She is currently working on a compilation of > essays, conversations, and profiles featuring dedicated and articulate > artists, activists and politicians—previous interviews include: Penny > Arcade, Stanley Aronowitz, Darius James, Mary Jo Long, Wanda Phipps, > and Wreckless Eric. She has a collaboration with musicians Don > Christensen, Pat Place and Julia Murphy (FAT) on the 3-CD compilation > State of the Union (Electronic Music Foundation) produced by Elliott > Sharp and is producing a recording titled The Love Dogs of Misfortune > featuring musicians Daniel Carter, Don Christensen, Dee Pop, Barry > Seroff, Dave Sewelson, Marc Ribot, and Drew Waters. Merry was born in > downtown Brooklyn and currently lives and works in New York City. > > Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Ghosts by Albert Ayler is book #4 in the > Futurepoem series, selected by 2002/03 editors Brenda Coultas, Anselm > Berrigan, Laird Hunt and Dan Machlin. > Previous titles: > The Escape, Jo Ann Wasserman > http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/ > BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680027) > Under the Sun, Rachel Levitsky > http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/ > BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680019) > Some Mantic Daemons, Garrett Kalleberg > http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/ > BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680000) > > Futurepoem is a brooklyn-based publishing collective that publishes > innovative poetry and prose. It is supported in part by the New York > State Council from the Arts Literature Program, The Fund for Poetry, > The New York Community Trust, subscribers and individual donors. > Donations are tax-deductible through our non-profit sponsor Fractured > Atlas Productions, Inc. Futurepoem books can be ordered from SPD > books, www.spdbooks.org. For more information, go to > http://www.futurepoem.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:47:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Chicagopostmodernpoetry is updated In-Reply-To: <000801c43a9a$2e640d20$1c290e18@attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit * All the Poetic Events for Chicago and Milwaukee for May, June and July * New Poetic Profiles of John Tipton, Brian Clements, Sawako Nakayasu, and Simone Muench with revealing photos and coming in the next two weeks- a collaborative review of Peter Gizzi's work from Ray Bianchi and Mark Tardi Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Haas Bianchi > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:32 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Futurepoem Book Release Party > > > Daniel > > Back channel me saudade@comcast.net > > Raymond L Bianchi > chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ > collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: UB Poetics discussion group > > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Daniel Machlin > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:56 AM > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Subject: Futurepoem Book Release Party > > > > > > Poetry City & Futurepoem books invite you to a book party to celebrate > > the publication of: > > > > GHOSTS BY ALBERT AYLER, GHOSTS BY ALBERT AYLER > > Poems by Merry Fortune > > > > (selected by Brenda Coultas, Laird Hunt, Anselm Berrigan & Dan Machlin) > > > > Tuesday, May 25, 2004 > > 7:00 P.M., FREE > > > > Teachers & Writers Collaborative > > 5 Union Square West, 7th Floor > > (between 14th and 15th Sts.) > > > > with readings by Fortune, Lewis Warsh, Kim Lyons, and Peter Bushyaeger > > & Wine and cheese reception. > > > > Directions: 4,5,6,L,N,R to Union Square, F to 14th Street. > > > > “In a madcap grammar handbook about the love that lives inside a savage > > world, Merry Fortune holds the keys to the tender ode, the raw > > confession > > and the syntactically exhilarating manifesto. Ghosts will surprise you > > with its sharpness and its joy. Read this book because it's excellently > > funny and read this book because it's seriously good.” > > —Lisa Jarnot > > > > “Merry Fortune’s poems are sort of broken and beautiful and > > melodic—-she’s awkwardly smart. She’s sort of like Francois Villon. > > She’s kind of a twenty-first century Susie Timmons. The fact that she’s > > doing music (I mean working with musicians) is only more evidence of > > her greatness. She’s a cat orchestra. She’s cartooniness without even > > pictures or laughs.” > > —Eileen Myles > > > > “Merry Fortune’s poems are sudden & direct, profligate in their > > engagement with beauty (sordid & sublime), and always inspiring. She > > writes in the time lapse between the hand and the eye— ‘the brainchild > > crocus of stability’—and never slows down.” > > —Lewis Warsh > > > > “I'm an electric guitarist. Merry Fortune is an electric poet.” > > —Marc Ribot > > > > “ . . . a microscopic gauntlet of “imaginary landscapes” where the > > spiritual and pedestrian share parity in a squirmingly comfortable way > > at both exhilarating heights and disquieting depths. Created at times > > are edgy musical messages, just as Ayler’s strange, simple, melancholic > > melodies shared space with his weird impassioned howling and plaintive, > > overflowing cries. . . . Desire’s internal struggle opens into a > > sometimes frantic, sometimes sublime, always abstract abyss called > > life.” > > —Steve Dalachinsky > > > > Merry Fortune is a poet, musician, and environmentalist of German and > > Native American descent. She is a former editor of The World, editor of > > Pagan Place (with Robert Martens), and former coordinator for the > > Poetry Project Monday night reading series. She has appeared in several > > anthologies: The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry (Thunder’s Mouth), The > > Portable Boog Reader (Boog Literature), and The Unbearables “Help > > Yourself!” Anthology (Autonomedia). Her poems, reviews and articles > > have appeared in The Poetry Project Newsletter; Boog-City; Brooklyn > > Review; Lungfull!; Fire (UK); High Times; Rattapallax; 6ix; Tamarind; > > CanWeHaveOurBallBack?; E-News online magazine and G (publications of > > the NYS Green Party). She is currently working on a compilation of > > essays, conversations, and profiles featuring dedicated and articulate > > artists, activists and politicians—previous interviews include: Penny > > Arcade, Stanley Aronowitz, Darius James, Mary Jo Long, Wanda Phipps, > > and Wreckless Eric. She has a collaboration with musicians Don > > Christensen, Pat Place and Julia Murphy (FAT) on the 3-CD compilation > > State of the Union (Electronic Music Foundation) produced by Elliott > > Sharp and is producing a recording titled The Love Dogs of Misfortune > > featuring musicians Daniel Carter, Don Christensen, Dee Pop, Barry > > Seroff, Dave Sewelson, Marc Ribot, and Drew Waters. Merry was born in > > downtown Brooklyn and currently lives and works in New York City. > > > > Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Ghosts by Albert Ayler is book #4 in the > > Futurepoem series, selected by 2002/03 editors Brenda Coultas, Anselm > > Berrigan, Laird Hunt and Dan Machlin. > > Previous titles: > > The Escape, Jo Ann Wasserman > > http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/ > > BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680027) > > Under the Sun, Rachel Levitsky > > http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/ > > BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680019) > > Some Mantic Daemons, Garrett Kalleberg > > http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/ > > BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680000) > > > > Futurepoem is a brooklyn-based publishing collective that publishes > > innovative poetry and prose. It is supported in part by the New York > > State Council from the Arts Literature Program, The Fund for Poetry, > > The New York Community Trust, subscribers and individual donors. > > Donations are tax-deductible through our non-profit sponsor Fractured > > Atlas Productions, Inc. Futurepoem books can be ordered from SPD > > books, www.spdbooks.org. For more information, go to > > http://www.futurepoem.com. > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:11:55 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: Walter Bejamin & Color Comments: To: steph484@PACBELL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 05/15/04 2:23:10 AM, steph484@PACBELL.NET writes: > I guess I am most interested in what way the absence of a quality - in thi= s > case color - creates in terms of dialog (critical &/or creative) between > what is absent and what is present in a work? What does, for example, an > absence=A0 of color in Benjamin enable in his argument, and how does his > refusal=A0 literally shade an argument in a particular direction (say, > "melancholy", David-Baptiste suggests.) What would happen if someone > literally went through Benjamin's texts covered them with transparent > multiple-color washes. Or - with Adobe Photoshop - took color to the black > and white photographs of the original Paris Arcades to evoke the original > period colors as taken from other sources. >=20 >=20 Stephen, I think there is another way of looking at colors, not as attributes but as=20 light. Given that fact black and white do not constitute an absence (gray) b= ut=20 a particular play of light. Color in Benjamin is a play of light/play of=20 perception. Didn't Goethe say that colors have as much to do with perception= as=20 "objective" reality. It is true that Benjamin does not describe if something is red or blue, but=20 his thoughts on photography are commentaries on color. Dead babies were comm= on=20 subjects in early photographs, which were drawn to static objects because it= =20 took a long time to register light. Civil war photographs of direct action a= re=20 full of double exposures or blurs, which give the special power to them (isn= 't=20 that blur a color, a play of light?). Many Civil War photos are of the=20 peripheries of action -dead or wounded soldiers, their possessions, a soldie= r on=20 leave, etc. (I talk in deatail about this in "The Peripheral Space of=20 Photography.) This bias in photography towards stasis, both in the taking an= d viewing,=20 makes a subversive melancholy part of photographic essence. I am bringing in the subject of photography because Benjamin's writing has=20 the same qualities. It is not gray but black and white. For instance, a quot= e in=20 "The Arcades Project" functions exactly like a photograph. It reflects (not=20 states) a thought which the reader picks and reflects upon: texts as=20 reflections. There were times when I thought Benjamin was completely wrong on a given=20 subject. In time, I realized that either I misunderstood him (always a possi= bility=20 with him) or did not see immediately see the profound question he was=20 raising, how he was far ahead of his time: for instance, his concept of "ide= al=20 language" in relation to translation; or his seeing photography as belonging= to the=20 age of mechanical reproduction, while also referring to its aura. These two=20 thoughts seem so contradictory. At the present, I am trying to understand how he sees "narrative," the=20 bete-noire of the last twenty years. There is no questions he envisions a na= rrative=20 which trascends the "bourgeois" prejudices we associate the term with. A=20 narrative of essences which, for example, the Taiwanese director (T. T. T,?)= , the=20 maker of "The Shainghai Flowers," etc., develops. In my view, global capitalist world, the peculiar metrapolis, communication=20 system it creates, can not be understood without a critical confrontation wi= th=20 Bejamin.Benjamin gives us clues for a critique and artistic transcendance of= =20 that world -the analystic and artistic means of doing so. His absolute=20 understanding of the nature of manifactured imagery must start any understan= ding of=20 the nature of our world. =20 Thanks again for your queries. Murat ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:31:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Re: INFO: arsenal pulp press, new catalogue Comments: To: Kalamu ya salaam In-Reply-To: <2066861628-1463792126-1084628184@boing.topica.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peace, This info concerning the "anthologies on Black British Colombian queer=20 writings" is incorrect. Bluesprints is actually the first collection of=20 Black British Colombians' writing and poetry from the 19th century to=20 the present day. "Compton's anthology provides a documentary history of migration and transformation within British Columbia's black communities from 1858 to the present. He describes the work as "the tracing of a phantom lineage," charting the waves of migration between Canada, the United States, the Caribbean, Africa and Europe. Like exiled South African poet Arthur Nortje, who made BC his home between 1967 and 1969, many black BC writers have maintained their transnational identities, thus Kingston reverberates through the work of Vancouver's Hope Anderson and we read Saltspring via Cleveland in the work of American transplant Fred Booker." -- the danforth review http://www.danforthreview.com/reviews/nonfiction/bluesprint.htm "Braithwaite's work is brilliant, and represents the distinct voice of black BC literature, a matter-of-fact defiance of traditional ideas about race, class and sexuality in popular cultures and in black literary criticism. " -- the danforth review I am wrting this note to inform you that the one story which is claimed t= o have been concerning "queer" and "queering the gangster" is actually a= composition by Lawrence Ytzhak Braithwaite which has very little to abso= lutely nothing to do with homosexuality or queer culture. B.U.T. concern= s itself with the recruitment of underprivileged youths into the criminal= economy as disposable human exports for the "benevolent dictatorship" wh= ich is Victoria, British Colombia if not the landscape of canada in it's = entirety. "Trunk Music", the story in question, does not promote homosexu= ality nor does it condone the misguided and lost "queer culture" and that= of british Columbia which has shown extreme right-wing affiliations, as = well as, the normalization of the exploitation of youth. It should be not= ed that not this nor any of the work be subjugated to that of the baser = desires of the sexual ghetto filled with poor unfortunates devoid of cult= ure and driven to manufactured elitist, faithless CONsumer identity of th= e physical. Any attempt to surrender the author's work to this catagory = would be only to delegitimze the work and anything and one affliated with= it from the essence of the versionization my eliotianian and ellingtoni= an philosophy of "traditon and individaul talent".=20 The author wishes to, once and for all, disavow himself from the disinfor= mation that his writings have any connection to the queer community and w= ith that let it be noted that he is an author of the modernist school who= utilizes the diasporic tradition of Sankofa, deep contreation, music/son= ics and lingusitics to trace the struggles of class, race and culture in = this the time of the afrikan and islamiziation of a thuggish western worl= d out to colonize the Original Peopls of the earth and once and for all t= ap all their naturla resources from the oraginic to the collective uncons= ciouse of the spiritual creative plain in an an attempt to establish a ne= oslavery and surfdom. Let it be noted that by "An Original Peoples", the = work include Natives Peoples, as well as, the so called "black" people wh= o continue to fight for their self determination with honour within an am= erikkka obessed in its centre of "power, sex and violence". This one; this work, has now and always has been for for my peoples who s= truggle inna world in terror of the other of the class, race, ethinicity = and culture.=20 peace, khodah hafez and stay strong lawrence ytzhak braithwaite an author in north amerikkka 1425 New Palestine/The Hood/Fernwood victoria, bc "Braithwaite's work is brilliant, and represents the distinct voice of black BC literature, a matter-of-fact defiance of traditional ideas about race, class and sexuality in popular cultures and in black literary criticism. As Compton notes, black Canadian identity is not determined by "transplant Afrocentrism, easy access African-Americana or the spice-rack vapidness of [Canadian] liberal multiculturalism". Very little of the century and a half of work in Blues= print suffers from reactionaryism, misogyny or the banality of identity politics. As an editor, Compton has wisely chosen to embrace writers who name sexual and racial ambiguity, such as Braithwaite, Kathy Ann March, Lily Spence and Andrea Thompson. Each of these authors destabilizes white/black binarism and challenges sexual strictures" within and without black community" -- the danforth review. =20 Kalamu ya Salaam wrote: >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Give Your Team Access to Their PCs from Anywhere. Increase=20 >productivity with a secure remote-access solution from=20 >GoToMyPC Pro. Stay in touch with your office. 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You are invited to just say no to horsemeat at the following two events to celebrate the launch of the spring 2004 series of /ubu e-books. A cd containing all 30 books of the series will be available for sale. Print-outs of the books will also be available for weighing and fetishizing. May 19th, 8-10 pm Party/reading at Pierogi 2000 Gallery, 177 North 9th Street right here in Williamsburg (Bedford stop on L train). Short readings by Miles Champion, Barbara Cole, Rob Fitterman, Aaron Kunin, Michael Scharf and Brian Kim Stefans. Slide presentation and performance by visiting ambassador from Windsor, Canada, Gustave Morin, his first reading ever in New Yawk. June 3rd, 6-8 pm Roof Books, Ugly Duckling Presse, Granary Books, Qua, /ubu Editions & The Figures invite you to a book party at LFL Gallery, 530 West 24th Street (yes, that’s hipser Chelsea). Wine, cheese and horsemeat will be served at both events! http://ww.ubu.com/ubu Spring 2004 Titles: Caroline Bergvall, Eclat Barbara Cole, Situation Comedies: Foxy Moron Jean Day, Linear C & The I and the You Craig Dworkin, Smokes Deanna Ferguson, Rough Bush and Other Poems Robert Fitterman, This Window Makes Me Feel Toadex Hobogrammathon, Name: A Novel Robert Kelly, Cruise of the Pnyx Madelyn Kent, São Paolo Ira Lightman, Trancelated (from Coinsides) Nicholas Moore, Spleen Gustave Morin, Spaghetti Dreadful Larry Price, Circadium Lytle Shaw, Low-Level Bureaucratic Structures / Principles of the Emeryville Shellmound Ron Silliman, The Chinese Notebook Brian Kim Stefans, Gulf & Alpha Betty’s Chronicles ____ A R R A S: new media poetry and poetics http://www.arras.net Hinka cumfae cashore canfeh, Ahl hityi oar hied 'caw taughtie! "Do you think just because I come from Carronshore I cannot fight? I shall hit you over the head with a cold potatoe." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:55:35 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Re: INFO: arsenal pulp press, new catalogue Comments: To: Kalamu ya salaam In-Reply-To: <2066861628-1463792126-1084628184@boing.topica.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peace, This info concerning the "anthologies on Black British Colombian queer=20 writings" is incorrect. Bluesprints is actually the first collection of=20 Black British Colombians' writing and poetry from the 19th century to=20 the present day. "Compton's anthology provides a documentary history of migration and transformation within British Columbia's black communities from 1858 to the present. He describes the work as "the tracing of a phantom lineage," charting the waves of migration between Canada, the United States, the Caribbean, Africa and Europe. Like exiled South African poet Arthur Nortje, who made BC his home between 1967 and 1969, many black BC writers have maintained their transnational identities, thus Kingston reverberates through the work of Vancouver's Hope Anderson and we read Saltspring via Cleveland in the work of American transplant Fred Booker." -- the danforth review http://www.danforthreview.com/reviews/nonfiction/bluesprint.htm "Braithwaite's work is brilliant, and represents the distinct voice of black BC literature, a matter-of-fact defiance of traditional ideas about race, class and sexuality in popular cultures and in black literary criticism. " -- the danforth review I am wrting this note to inform you that the one story which is claimed t= o have been concerning "queer" and "queering the gangster" is actually a= composition by Lawrence Ytzhak Braithwaite which has very little to abso= lutely nothing to do with homosexuality or queer culture. B.U.T. concern= s itself with the recruitment of underprivileged youths into the criminal= economy as disposable human exports for the "benevolent dictatorship" wh= ich is Victoria, British Colombia if not the landscape of canada in it's = entirety. "Trunk Music", the story in question, does not promote homosexu= ality nor does it condone the misguided and lost "queer culture" and that= of british Columbia which has shown extreme right-wing affiliations, as = well as, the normalization of the exploitation of youth. It should be not= ed that not this nor any of the work be subjugated to that of the baser = desires of the sexual ghetto filled with poor unfortunates devoid of cult= ure and driven to manufactured elitist, faithless CONsumer identity of th= e physical. Any attempt to surrender the author's work to this catagory = would be only to delegitimze the work and anything and one affliated with= it from the essence of the versionization my eliotianian and ellingtoni= an philosophy of "traditon and individaul talent".=20 The author wishes to, once and for all, disavow himself from the disinfor= mation that his writings have any connection to the queer community and w= ith that let it be noted that he is an author of the modernist school who= utilizes the diasporic tradition of Sankofa, deep concentration, music/s= onics and lingusitics to trace the struggles of class, race and culture i= n this the time of the afrikan and islamiziation of a thuggish western wo= rld out to colonize the Original Peopls of the earth and once and for all= tap all their natural resources from the oragnic to the collective uncon= sciouse of the spiritual creative plain in an an attempt to establish a n= eoslavery and surfdom. Let it be noted that by "An Original Peoples", the= work include Natives Peoples, as well as, the so called "black" people w= ho continue to fight for their self determination with honour within an a= merikkka obessed in its centre of "power, sex and violence". This one; this work, has now and always has been for my peoples who strug= gle inna world in terror of the other of the class, race, ethinicity and = culture.=20 peace, khodah hafez and stay strong lawrence ytzhak braithwaite an author in north amerikkka 1425 New Palestine/The Hood/Fernwood victoria, bc "Braithwaite's work is brilliant, and represents the distinct voice of black BC literature, a matter-of-fact defiance of traditional ideas about race, class and sexuality in popular cultures and in black literary criticism. As Compton notes, black Canadian identity is not determined by "transplant Afrocentrism, easy access African-Americana or the spice-rack vapidness of [Canadian] liberal multiculturalism". Very little of the century and a half of work in Blues= print suffers from reactionaryism, misogyny or the banality of identity politics. As an editor, Compton has wisely chosen to embrace writers who name sexual and racial ambiguity, such as Braithwaite, Kathy Ann March, Lily Spence and Andrea Thompson. Each of these authors destabilizes white/black binarism and challenges sexual strictures" within and without black community" -- the danforth review. =20 Kalamu ya Salaam wrote: >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Give Your Team Access to Their PCs from Anywhere. Increase=20 >productivity with a secure remote-access solution from=20 >GoToMyPC Pro. Stay in touch with your office. 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The points you make about B & photography I h= ave > always found intriguing. I believe there is a book on Proust and photogra= phy, > one of his frequent subjects in Remembrance... in which he is remarkably > lucid. I don=B9t know if anyone has written on the relationship of B and P = on > photography. It must be there (I don=B9t have the current time focus to > uncover). But it=B9s interesting to me how often (unless I am vastly > over-prejudiced here) the ways in which the lit crit mind is vastly > undereducated when it comes to the history of the visual arts as a critic= al > vocabulary =AD so that P and B on photography historically, at least, get e= lided > out of the reading experience and critical discussion and of the text. (T= he > opposite phenomena =AD the viz people being often oblivious to the > literary/poetry world and not able to draw on imaginative language and > practice as as a shaping influence =AD is just as prevalent). Good filmmake= rs > are perhaps the heroes here, poly-dexterous with image, sound and text, e= tc. >=20 > I suspect/know the momentous change right now is in the joining of of > vocabularies that comes in the shared context of the computer screen =AD wh= ere > Benjamin=B9s critical intelligence can be re-employed. What, for example, > constitutes =B3aura=B2 on a monitor screen. Or, perhaps =B3that is=B2 the quest o= f the > last x years on the part of artists and writers, how to use the computer = as a > medium with a vocabulary that will create a sense of authenticity, one th= at > occupies the screen with the weight of an original work in oil, pastel =AD = or > the punch of metal letter forms with real ink. >=20 > Personally, for the last year, I have been working with antiquarian books= , > journals and photographs in the Bancroft Library =AD primary sources. It=B9s = been > one of the mostly highly charged experiences I have ever had (say, openin= g a > unique version of a 1453 Brut Chronicle and reading the velum inscribed, > original story of King Leire). Conversely, when I see the digitized vers= ion > of such ancient works up on a monitor, the script looses a large part of = its > charge =AD it=B9s an electronic diminishment of value that counters the weigh= t and > textural feel of the velum, the tangible, existential character of the sc= ribe > and his use of ink, the smell, the heft of the substantial volume against= the > computer monitor=B9s sanitized, featherweight apparition of the original w= hich > becomes, for the casual viewer, much easier to dismiss as a temporary, > fleeting experience. >=20 > Yes, my experience is obviously a privileged and a rare one =AD yet one tha= t I > do not see monitor technology able to surmount. Yet, I am sure many on th= is > list would argue that x, y and z web sites offer images and text in a way= that > will knock you off your arse =AD and that many are working on means to perm= it > the computer to keep enhancing this condition. As well as others who s= ee > the computer as a great tool to mediate experience back into the making o= f > concrete objects of great power via fantastic color printers, etc. >=20 > Yes, I think its powerful time of transition here in the medium (poetry) = of > which we have chosen and Benjamin=B9s work is critical to understanding the > moves from A to B and back to a transformed version of =B3A.=B2 >=20 > Back to my original query as to what happens to the critical text when =AD = using > the computer technology =AD the writer is able to draw on images in color a= nd/or > begins to change the color of its type fonts in the process of writing. (= Or, > conversely, the significance when one refuses to draw on the palette of t= his > technology and stays in a b/w mode. What happens when we can see some > version of =B3the color=B2 of a work=B9s originating circumstance, say, the col= or > images and calligraphy that form the original journal format of a poem by > Philip Whalen (one that most of us might only know in a rather boring > typographical rendition). Or, an image that pops to mind, say, Barry Watt= en > before giving a lecture/reading at Berkeley, is checking out the PowerPoi= nt > program that will bring up the architectural photographs of Detroit that= will > support =B3the architecture=B2 of his performance. Are the photographs merel= y > additional props for the ideas, or is the photographic content (the aesth= etics > of the way the images are configured) implicit and contiguous with the > language he is speaking? What would be the difference to the critical > listening experience if Barry presented the pictures in color (going back= to > Benjamin). =20 >=20 > In terms of the employment of these new technologies, I suspect the criti= cal > language/aestheics for distinguishing successful versus mediocre (no aura= ) > creative/critical practices and/or successes is just beginning to more fu= lly > emerge.=20 >=20 > Stephen Vincent Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > In a message dated 05/15/04 2:23:10 AM, steph484@PACBELL.NET writes: >=20 >=20 > I guess I am most interested in what way the absence of a quality - in th= is > case color - creates in terms of dialog (critical &/or creative) between > what is absent and what is present in a work? What does, for example, an > absence=A0 of color in Benjamin enable in his argument, and how does his > refusal=A0 literally shade an argument in a particular direction (say, > "melancholy", David-Baptiste suggests.) What would happen if someone > literally went through Benjamin's texts covered them with transparent > multiple-color washes. Or - with Adobe Photoshop - took color to the blac= k > and white photographs of the original Paris Arcades to evoke the original > period colors as taken from other sources. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Stephen, >=20 > I think there is another way of looking at colors, not as attributes but = as > light. Given that fact black and white do not constitute an absence (gray= ) but > a particular play of light. Color in Benjamin is a play of light/play of > perception. Didn't Goethe say that colors have as much to do with percept= ion > as "objective" reality. >=20 > It is true that Benjamin does not describe if something is red or blue, b= ut > his thoughts on photography are commentaries on color. Dead babies were c= ommon > subjects in early photographs, which were drawn to static objects because= it > took a long time to register light. Civil war photographs of direct actio= n are > full of double exposures or blurs, which give the special power to them (= isn't > that blur a color, a play of light?). Many Civil War photos are of the > peripheries of action -dead or wounded soldiers, their possessions, a sol= dier > on leave, etc. (I talk in deatail about this in "The Peripheral Space of > Photography.) This bias in photography towards stasis, both in the taking= and > viewing, makes a subversive melancholy part of photographic essence. >=20 > I am bringing in the subject of photography because Benjamin's writing ha= s the > same qualities. It is not gray but black and white. For instance, a quote= in > "The Arcades Project" functions exactly like a photograph. It reflects (n= ot > states) a thought which the reader picks and reflects upon: texts as > reflections. >=20 > There were times when I thought Benjamin was completely wrong on a given > subject. In time, I realized that either I misunderstood him (always a > possibility with him) or did not see immediately see the profound questio= n he > was raising, how he was far ahead of his time: for instance, his concept = of > "ideal language" in relation to translation; or his seeing photography as > belonging to the age of mechanical reproduction, while also referring to = its > aura. These two thoughts seem so contradictory. >=20 > At the present, I am trying to understand how he sees "narrative," the > bete-noire of the last twenty years. There is no questions he envisions a > narrative which trascends the "bourgeois" prejudices we associate the ter= m > with. A narrative of essences which, for example, the Taiwanese director = (T. > T. T,?), the maker of "The Shainghai Flowers," etc., develops. >=20 > In my view, global capitalist world, the peculiar metrapolis, communicati= on > system it creates, can not be understood without a critical confrontation= with > Bejamin.Benjamin gives us clues for a critique and artistic transcendance= of > that world -the analystic and artistic means of doing so. His absolute > understanding of the nature of manifactured imagery must start any > understanding of the nature of our world. >=20 > Thanks again for your queries. >=20 > Murat >=20 >=20 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:18:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: schwartzgk Subject: Re: sixth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit now we're one more stronger, one more enriched: welcome to the list --Gerald Schwartz > fatarmfuloroses > > she should be growing roses > instead of wearing > them > on > her > flesh > > letters circled in a > game > wonder > words > oranges > scrambled > rhymes > hot on top > cold > on > bottom > grams of > fields of................... > > ...........spaghetti > strength > but > we can do > something > about > the > future. > > sd ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:36:03 -0400 Reply-To: bstefans@earthlink.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Brian Kim Stefans [arras.net]" Subject: /UBU lanches -- link to invite In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The graphic version of this invitation is now on Free Space Comix: http://www.arras.net/weblog/ Please try to make it, ye who are in New York. 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Michael McClure, recipient of three Obies, has premiered over 20 plays at the Magic, and the Award-winning Josephine the Mouse Singer. He now returns to the Magic with an imaginative take on James Shirley¹s Elizabethan revenge tragedy The Cardinal. Free to Magic subscribers. $10 suggested donation for others. For reservations, please call (415) 441-8822. 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Poetry should include both heart & head tho head is nice & will suffice! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 09:10:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: The Digital Underground Sunday May 16, 2004 Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Victoria Independent Media Center ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Original article is at http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/25906.php The Digital Underground Sunday May 16, 2004 The second hour will feature activist and talk show host Maisha Sullivan-Ongoza who will share her experiences of her recent trip to Africa, the current state of black media and Kawaida philosophy. The Digital Underground Sunday May 16, 2004 The Digital Underground hosted by Junious Ricardo Stanton airs live Sundays from 12 Noon to 2 PM on http://www.NewBlackCity.com http://www.BlackMic.com http://www.Fellthefyah.com and http://www.HarmabeeRadio.com This week's scheduled guests are: Gwen Ivory the publisher of The Palm Beach Gazette-Tomorrow's Newspaper Today. The second hour will feature activist and talk show host Maisha Sullivan-Ongoza who will share her experiences of her recent trip to Africa, the current state of black media and Kawaida philosophy. Log on and learn. Engage in mental decolonization. http://www.NewBlackCity.com -\ ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 14:00:53 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Roy on Indian election MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Let us Hope the Darkness has Passed India's Real and Virtual Worlds have Collided in a Humiliation of Power by Arundhati Roy http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0514-08.htm For many of us who feel estranged from mainstream politics, there are rare, ephemeral moments of celebration. Today is one of them. When India went to the polls, we were negotiating the dangerous cross-currents of neo-liberalism and neo-fascism - an assault on the poor and minority communities. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:11:47 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Barrio BookFest 2004 this Friday and Saturday! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +++++ CalacaList +++++ ListaCalaca +++++ ¡CONTRA LA GUERRA! Calaca Press opposes the occupation of Iraq. La Raza Press Association and the Red CalacArts Collective present: Barrio BookFest 2004 Liberation through Media and Cultural Expression This Friday and Saturday! Memorial Academy Charter School 2850 Logan Ave. (Barrio Logan) San Diego, CA 92113 This free first annual grassroots activist book festival will focus on issues related to social justice and human rights from a Chicano perspective. Featured authors include: raúlrsalinas (Un Trip through the Mind Jail y otras Excursions and Beyond the BEATen Path) and Luis J. Rodriguez (Always Running: La Vida Loca, Gang Days in LA and Republic of East LA) +++ BBF Schedule Memorial Academy Auditorium Friday, May 14 | 7pm- 9pm Noche de Poesía with: Red CalacArts Collective: Raymond R. Beltrán, Sara Rebeca Durán Garibay, Olga Angelina García Echeverría, Victor Payan, and Mariajulia Arisiaga Urías Miguel-Angel Soria raúlrsalinas Barrio BookFest 2004 Memorial Academy Saturday, May 15 | 10am - 5pm Publishers | Bookstores | Authors | Panels Workshops | Live Music | Community Groups | Vendors 10:00 Opening Statement - Outdoor Stage 10:15 Danza Mixcoatl - Outdoor Stage (Danza Azteca) 11:00 Michael Heralda's Aztec Stories - Outdoor Stage (Music) 11:00 History and the Present State of Raza in the Media - Room 507 (Panel) With Ernesto Bustillos, Armando Navarro, Reymundo Reynoso 12:00 Luis J. Rodriguez and Manuel J. Vélez - Auditorium (Poetry) 12:00 Children's Art Workshop - Outside (Art) Facilitated by artist Victor Ochoa 1:00 Tell It Like It Is: A Creative Workshop on Writing Political Poetry Room 103 (Poetry Workshop) Facilitated by Raymond R. Beltrán, Olga A. García, and Mariajulia Urias 1:15 Able Minded Poets - Outdoor Stage (Poetry) 2:00 Haero Dizaye - Outdoor Stage (Poetry) 2:00 Role of Media in Creating Social Change - 509 (Panel) With Luis J. Rodriguez, raulrsalinas, Rosaura Sanchez 3:00 Keynote Presentation: Cecilia Ubilla - Auditorium (Speech) 3:30 Sister Power, Unite! Women Poets Doing Their Thang - Media Center (Readings) With Sandra C. Muñoz, Marta A. Lomeli, Ariel Robello 4:00 Burning Issues in the Community - 507 (Panel) With Elizabeth Martinez, Cathy Espitia, Jorge Mariscal, Christian Ramirez 4:00 Caballero Verde Quinteto Latin Jazz - Outdoor Stage (Music) Schedule, performers, panelists, and authors subject to change. +++ Confirmed vendors include: 5th Battalion, Able Minded Poets, AK Press, Burnt Tortilla Creations, Calaca Press/Red CalacArts Collective, California Teachers Association, Casa del Libro, Chicanarte y Que, City Works, Danza Mixcoatl, Environmental Health Coalition, Groundwork Books, International Action Center SD, Jorge Espinoza, La Prensa San Diego, La Verdad Publications/Unión del Barrio, Mayazteca, Media Arts Center San Diego, Michael Heralda, Mil Cosas, Motivational Designs, People of Color Against Globalization, Project YANO, Raza Press Association/Committee on Raza Rights, Resistencia Bookstore/Red Salmon Press, Rising Star Publisher, Save Our Centro Coalition/Keeponcrossin.org, Tia Chucha’s Cafe Cultural, and Victor Ochoa +++ BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 is organized the Raza Press Association www.razapressassociation.org and the Red CalacArts Collective www.redcalacartscollective.org and endorsed by the following: Calaca Press | Committee on Raza Rights | National Association for Chicana and Chicano Studies | Project YANO | Raza Rights Coalition | Red Salmon Press | Resistencia Bookstore | Save Our Centro Coalition | UCSD Chicano/a~Latino/a Arts and Humanities Program | Unión del Barrio | Voz Fronteriza Hosted by Memorial Academy For more info visit www.barriobookfest.org, email barriobookfest@cox.net, or call (619) 434-9036. -- =================================== ¡Contra la Guerra! Calaca Press is opposed to the occupation of Iraq. =================================== Calaca Press P.O. Box 620786, San Diego, Califas 92162 (619) 434-9036 phone/fax http://calacapress.com calacapress@cox.net =================================== Red CalacArts Collective: http://redcalacartscollective.org =================================== Available from Calaca: La Calaca Review edited by Manuel J. Vélez ISBN 0-9660773-9-3 / $15 / Perfectbound / 152 pages =================================== Next Red CalacArts Collective Event: BARRIO BOOKFEST 2004 Liberation through Media and Cultural Expression May 14-15, 2004 - Memorial Academy, San Diego, Califas - FREE Featured authors include: Luis J. Rodriguez and raúlrsalinas BarrioBookFest@yahoo.com http://barriobookfest.org Organized by the Raza Press Association and the Red CalacArts Collective =================================== Calaca Press is a member of the RPA http://razapressassociation.org and the Save Our Centro Coalition http://saveourcentro.org =================================== c/s -\ ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:05:47 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christine Murray Subject: Re: Walter Benjamin & Color Comments: To: Stephen Vincent , "MuratNN@aol.com" Comments: cc: David-Baptiste Chirot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is great stuff you are thinking on and exploring, Steve. The questions of computer screen intervention in the combinations of image(colorized) and text (poetic) is intriguing, particularly from a point of view such as Benjamin's critique of art changing due to reproduction. John Berger's observations might be a next place to filter some of this through. Thanks for sharing all this insight. Best Wishes, Chris Murray -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Vincent To: MuratNN@aol.com; UB Poetics discussion group Cc: Christine Murray; David-Baptiste Chirot Sent: 5/15/2004 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Walter Benjamin & Color Thank you, Murat, for this. The points you make about B & photography I have always found intriguing. I believe there is a book on Proust and photography, one of his frequent subjects in Remembrance... in which he is remarkably lucid. I don't know if anyone has written on the relationship of B and P on photography. It must be there (I don't have the current time focus to uncover). But it's interesting to me how often (unless I am vastly over-prejudiced here) the ways in which the lit crit mind is vastly undereducated when it comes to the history of the visual arts as a critical vocabulary - so that P and B on photography historically, at least, get elided out of the reading experience and critical discussion and of the text. (The opposite phenomena - the viz people being often oblivious to the literary/poetry world and not able to draw on imaginative language and practice as as a shaping influence - is just as prevalent). Good filmmakers are perhaps the heroes here, poly-dexterous with image, sound and text, etc. I suspect/know the momentous change right now is in the joining of of vocabularies that comes in the shared context of the computer screen - where Benjamin's critical intelligence can be re-employed. What, for example, constitutes "aura" on a monitor screen. Or, perhaps "that is" the quest of the last x years on the part of artists and writers, how to use the computer as a medium with a vocabulary that will create a sense of authenticity, one that occupies the screen with the weight of an original work in oil, pastel - or the punch of metal letter forms with real ink. Personally, for the last year, I have been working with antiquarian books, journals and photographs in the Bancroft Library - primary sources. It's been one of the mostly highly charged experiences I have ever had (say, opening a unique version of a 1453 Brut Chronicle and reading the velum inscribed, original story of King Leire). Conversely, when I see the digitized version of such ancient works up on a monitor, the script looses a large part of its charge - it's an electronic diminishment of value that counters the weight and textural feel of the velum, the tangible, existential character of the scribe and his use of ink, the smell, the heft of the substantial volume against the computer monitor's sanitized, featherweight apparition of the original which becomes, for the casual viewer, much easier to dismiss as a temporary, fleeting experience. Yes, my experience is obviously a privileged and a rare one - yet one that I do not see monitor technology able to surmount. Yet, I am sure many on this list would argue that x, y and z web sites offer images and text in a way that will knock you off your arse - and that many are working on means to permit the computer to keep enhancing this condition. As well as others who see the computer as a great tool to mediate experience back into the making of concrete objects of great power via fantastic color printers, etc. Yes, I think its powerful time of transition here in the medium (poetry) of which we have chosen and Benjamin's work is critical to understanding the moves from A to B and back to a transformed version of "A." Back to my original query as to what happens to the critical text when - using the computer technology - the writer is able to draw on images in color and/or begins to change the color of its type fonts in the process of writing. (Or, conversely, the significance when one refuses to draw on the palette of this technology and stays in a b/w mode. What happens when we can see some version of "the color" of a work's originating circumstance, say, the color images and calligraphy that form the original journal format of a poem by Philip Whalen (one that most of us might only know in a rather boring typographical rendition). Or, an image that pops to mind, say, Barry Watten before giving a lecture/reading at Berkeley, is checking out the PowerPoint program that will bring up the architectural photographs of Detroit that will support "the architecture" of his performance. Are the photographs merely additional props for the ideas, or is the photographic content (the aesthetics of the way the images are configured) implicit and contiguous with the language he is speaking? What would be the difference to the critical listening experience if Barry presented the pictures in color (going back to Benjamin). In terms of the employment of these new technologies, I suspect the critical language/aestheics for distinguishing successful versus mediocre (no aura) creative/critical practices and/or successes is just beginning to more fully emerge. Stephen Vincent Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com In a message dated 05/15/04 2:23:10 AM, steph484@PACBELL.NET writes: I guess I am most interested in what way the absence of a quality - in this case color - creates in terms of dialog (critical &/or creative) between what is absent and what is present in a work? What does, for example, an absence of color in Benjamin enable in his argument, and how does his refusal literally shade an argument in a particular direction (say, "melancholy", David-Baptiste suggests.) What would happen if someone literally went through Benjamin's texts covered them with transparent multiple-color washes. Or - with Adobe Photoshop - took color to the black and white photographs of the original Paris Arcades to evoke the original period colors as taken from other sources. Stephen, I think there is another way of looking at colors, not as attributes but as light. Given that fact black and white do not constitute an absence (gray) but a particular play of light. Color in Benjamin is a play of light/play of perception. Didn't Goethe say that colors have as much to do with perception as "objective" reality. It is true that Benjamin does not describe if something is red or blue, but his thoughts on photography are commentaries on color. Dead babies were common subjects in early photographs, which were drawn to static objects because it took a long time to register light. Civil war photographs of direct action are full of double exposures or blurs, which give the special power to them (isn't that blur a color, a play of light?). Many Civil War photos are of the peripheries of action -dead or wounded soldiers, their possessions, a soldier on leave, etc. (I talk in deatail about this in "The Peripheral Space of Photography.) This bias in photography towards stasis, both in the taking and viewing, makes a subversive melancholy part of photographic essence. I am bringing in the subject of photography because Benjamin's writing has the same qualities. It is not gray but black and white. For instance, a quote in "The Arcades Project" functions exactly like a photograph. It reflects (not states) a thought which the reader picks and reflects upon: texts as reflections. There were times when I thought Benjamin was completely wrong on a given subject. In time, I realized that either I misunderstood him (always a possibility with him) or did not see immediately see the profound question he was raising, how he was far ahead of his time: for instance, his concept of "ideal language" in relation to translation; or his seeing photography as belonging to the age of mechanical reproduction, while also referring to its aura. These two thoughts seem so contradictory. At the present, I am trying to understand how he sees "narrative," the bete-noire of the last twenty years. There is no questions he envisions a narrative which trascends the "bourgeois" prejudices we associate the term with. A narrative of essences which, for example, the Taiwanese director (T. T. T,?), the maker of "The Shainghai Flowers," etc., develops. In my view, global capitalist world, the peculiar metrapolis, communication system it creates, can not be understood without a critical confrontation with Bejamin.Benjamin gives us clues for a critique and artistic transcendance of that world -the analystic and artistic means of doing so. His absolute understanding of the nature of manifactured imagery must start any understanding of the nature of our world. Thanks again for your queries. Murat ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:20:54 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Report: Rumsfeld OK'd Operation That Led To Prisoner Abuse: Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ Report: Rumsfeld OK'd Operation That Led To Prisoner Abuse: Raised On Hearty Mix of Pills, Porn, God And Country American Youth Susceptible To Temptations Of Military Sadism: Jesus Porn: Halliburton In Partnership With Fox Entertainment And The Food And Drug Administration To Produce XXX Parables From The Bible To Make Troops Actions Appear Religiously Correct: Sexual Interrogation On Rise In U.S. by Jeffey Lube They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:39:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Armstrong Subject: Wegway Photo Exhibition at Steam Whistle Gallery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am thankful to everyone who applied to be in Wegway's Juried Photography Exhibition, part of the Contact Photography Festival at the Steam Whistle Gallery in Toronto. The submissions were excellent and the selection process required many difficult decisions. And I'm deeply indebted to the jurors Becky Singleton and Matt Wyatt. They offered their hard work and constant help absolutely free. Their commitment to Wegway’s cause, along with everyone who applied, will help keep Wegway publishing strange, beautiful and amazing things produced by today’s artists. Sixteen artists are participating in the Steam Whistle photography show: Alison Slein, Buffalo, NY Bob Gulley, Houston, TX Bruce Melkowits, Chapel Hill, NC Davida Kidd, Vancouver, BC Doug Plummer, Seattle, WA Dxiña Mannello, Brooklyn, NY Eamon MacMahon, Toronto, ON Flint Gennari, Staten Island, NY Frances Ward, Hamilton, ON Louviere and Vanessa, New Orleans, LA Michiko K., New York, NY Scott Hall, Merritt Island, FL Simon Farrington, Toronto, ON Susan Huber, Salt Spring Island, BC Tim Sullivan, San Francisco, CA Véronique Synnott, Montréal, PQ The Steam Whistle Gallery is located at 255 Bremner Blvd., Toronto. It’s in the old railway roundhouse right across the street from the CN Tower. The opening reception is from 6 to 9 pm on Wednesday, May 19 and the show will run until Sunday, May 30. Gallery hours are Monday to Saturday 12 to 6, and Sunday 12 to 5 I hope to see you there. Steve Armstrong Publisher, Wegway P.S. Our next juried exhibition is in November, 2004 at the Propeller Centre for the Visual Arts in Toronto. This show will include photography and all other media as well. The jurors will be Fran Hill, Director of the Fran Hill Gallery on Queen Street East in Toronto, Elizabeth Legge, Professor of Contemporary Art at the University of Toronto and me, Steve Armstrong, Publisher, Wegway magazine. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:51:11 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: bad gurrrl Subject: Works in Egress, 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Works in Egress, 2 no identifine remarks prisoner flying license plate number [random any 120 degrees -- 3:00 -- 781-FVF in case you are mango you? wondering about everything] painted she her green lips chapped same stick in Iraq busted flat in batting rouge baton twirler girl sequins here are the snakes faux scales in bladerunner found stiff around bathtub drain dancing one girl later jumping president smileys stripping on the run spectacle angel flaming light she is headed through plate glass man legs in pursuit to interrogate she-game is up ! glass fragments acrobat hell all over others in toy shops at night flipping off Oedipus bossman in blue tights Hartford always Sincerely Yours, life insurance in letters to the editor http://badgurrrlnest.blogspot.com :) D. 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SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 02:50:09 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: regedit p.-lestinic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII regedit p.-lestinic isr.-el the is isr.-el theoretic.-lly is .--.d theoretic.-lly pr.-ctic.-lly .--.d psychotic, pr.-ctic.-lly u-.fit psychotic, to u-.fit rem.-i-. to i-. rem.-i-. the i-. commu-.ity the of commu-.ity -..-tio-.s. of over -..-tio-.s. .- over h.-lf-ce-.tury .- co-.st.--.t of w.-rf.-re co-.st.--.t h.-s w.-rf.-re do-.e h.-s jews of .-g.-i-.. i-. arabs the .-re arabs little .-re better little .-fter better psychotic h.-d w.-rf.-re. psychotic tod.-y w.-rf.-re. .-zure tod.-y brought .-zure home brought ti-.y .- i-.f.--.t ti-.y mouse i-.f.--.t th.-t mouse h.-d th.-t f.-lle-. w.-ter from f.-lle-. its from -.est its we .--.d could-.'t we s.-ve could-.'t it. s.-ve w.-rm it. milk w.-rm w.-ter .--.d i-.cre.-sed it sufferi-.g. its there sufferi-.g. -.o is god. -.o drow-. to it drow-. putti-.g it out true i-.te-.se of misery. i-.te-.se george misery. bush george to-.y .--.d bl.-ir to-.y true psychotic believers. m.-rti-. i believers. k-.ow i this k-.ow for this f.-ct. .- they f.-ct. gover-.. to eve-. gover-.. m.-rti-. eve-. luther the ki-.g luther bill .--.d cli-.to-. bill their h.-d we.-k their mome-.ts. we.-k liter.-l will gre.-se liter.-l europe. of he.-rd i o-. it r.-dio. the my i-. bu-.ker my will i hide eyes. / hide so / pe.-ceful th.-t times pe.-ceful .-bide. times give will you give gouged-out my eyes. gouged-out -.o-holds the b.-r -.o-holds method b.-r fighti-.g. of does fighti-.g. he.-d the spe.-k he.-d disloc.-tio-. its body. the defe-.estr.-tio-. body. dec.-pit.-tio-.. / deleuze dec.-pit.-tio-.. threw of himself threw before out -.ew the mille-.-.ium. -.ew -.othi-.g mille-.-.ium. h.-ppe-.ed -.othi-.g -.ight the december of thirty-first. december burst .- ple.-sure, of bullets, of joy. for f.-ct .- d.-ughters the whores. .-re l.-ur.- f.-ct murdered h.-s her murdered childre-.. her e.-te-. h.-s his e.-te-. me.--. i every i-. se-.se every terms. the re.-di-.g de.-th. somethi-.g re.-di-.g by somethi-.g o-.e by who o-.e close is de.-th. to isr.-el .--.d is pr.-ctic.-lly theoretic.-lly psychotic, .--.d u-.fit pr.-ctic.-lly to psychotic, rem.-i-. u-.fit i-. to the rem.-i-. isr.-el i-. is the theoretic.-lly commu-.ity .- of h.-lf-ce-.tury -..-tio-.s. of over co-.st.--.t .- w.-rf.-re h.-lf-ce-.tury h.-s co-.st.--.t the w.-rf.-re commu-.ity h.-s of do-.e -..-tio-.s. jews arabs .-g.-i-.. little arabs .-fter .-re .- little h.-lf-ce-.tury better of .-fter jews psychotic brought w.-rf.-re. home tod.-y .- .-zure ti-.y brought i-.f.--.t home mouse ti-.y h.-d i-.f.--.t psychotic mouse w.-rf.-re. th.-t tod.-y h.-d .-zure f.-lle-. we from could-.'t its s.-ve -.est it. we milk could-.'t .--.d s.-ve w.-ter it. f.-lle-. w.-rm from milk its w.-ter .--.d i-.cre.-sed god. sufferi-.g. h.-d there to -.o it god. putti-.g drow-. sufferi-.g. it there putti-.g is out george i-.te-.se .--.d misery. to-.y george bl.-ir bush .-re to-.y true bl.-ir out true misery. believers. f.-ct. i they k-.ow .-re this u-.fit for to f.-ct. eve-. they m.-rti-. gover-.. this eve-. for m.-rti-. .- luther h.-d ki-.g their bill mome-.ts. cli-.to-. the their .-re we.-k the mome-.ts. luther liter.-l o-. gre.-se the europe. i-. he.-rd bu-.ker o-. will r.-dio. gre.-se my europe. bu-.ker i will it hide .-bide. / i so will pe.-ceful you times my .-bide. gouged-out give / you so gouged-out pe.-ceful eyes. times -.o-holds does b.-r the method he.-d fighti-.g. .-fter does there he.-d the spe.-k -.o-holds disloc.-tio-. from body. defe-.estr.-tio-. defe-.estr.-tio-. / dec.-pit.-tio-.. deleuze deleuze its threw the himself -.ew before -.othi-.g -.ew the mille-.-.ium. -.ight -.othi-.g of h.-ppe-.ed threw -.ight out december of thirty-first. ple.-sure, burst burst ple.-sure, bullets, bullets, thirty-first. joy. of f.-ct i d.-ughters for whores. .- l.-ur.- for murdered th.-t her george childre-.. bush e.-te-. every his se-.se me.--. terms. every h.-s se-.se e.-te-. terms. i re.-di-.g somethi-.g somethi-.g by by o-.e o-.e who who is close to de.-th. re.-di-.g __ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:15:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Taylor Subject: The Naked Readings this Sunday! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Naked Readings Sunday May 23rd 7-10 Makeready's Gallery 214 Artspace 214 Glenridge Avenue Montclair, NJ 973-744-1940 Please join us at this inspiring event celebrating the words and worlds of poets from all over the Metropolitan area traversing the diverse realms of creative expression. Seize the opportunity to re-connect with the wonderful and supportive community of Spoken Word in funky Montclair, NJ. Please visit our web site for more details... http://www.SpiralBridge.org Brought to you by friends of SpiralBridge "They always say that time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourselves." -- Andy Warhol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.SpiralBridge.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 07:42:40 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: Silliman's Blog Comments: To: WOM-PO , BRITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, nanders1@swarthmore.edu, new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, whpoets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT TOPICS: Generating narrative where it doesn't exist: Going from "card deck" to the page in the poetry of Lev Rubinstein, Robert Grenier & John Tipton Rigging poetry contests vs. assigning value -- getting in touch with our inner "Foetry" Why I use Blogger (with an aside on mail art) Dana Gioia: "I have noticed a lot of similarities between the military world & the literary world" -- Dear Dana . . . . 3 questions for the presidential debates Prageeta Sharma: Making it look easy Martin Corless-Smith: The Boise Renaissance, Part II - Space as notational The Boise Renaissance, Part I: Catherine Wagner's Macular Hole -- When Jack Spicer meets Sylvia Plath The Philadelphia Progressive Poetry Calendar John Taggart's Pastorelles - "roots work" from a master http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 06:49:14 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit non doing not \ that/ he/ doesn't/ know/ it/ he just duzn't do it.... 8:00...spring run...form...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 07:20:57 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: Works in Egress, 2 In-Reply-To: <20040517005111.43864.qmail@web60109.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > http://badgurrrlnest.blogspot.com > > :) > > D. Lateefa Givens Page not found.... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:20:21 -0400 Reply-To: pmetres@jcu.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Philip Metres Subject: Re: poetry in portland, maine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if there are places that do readings in the environs of Portland, Maine? After the Orono conference, I'll be in the area for much of July, and wanted to plug into the scene. thanks, Phil Philip Metres Assistant Professor Department of English John Carroll University 20700 N. Park Blvd University Heights, OH 44118 (216) 397-4528 (work) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:18:52 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Photi Subject: Red Room Reading Series: Mark Bibbins, Ted Mathys, Brock Pennington In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20040517101048.012559b0@pop.enterprise.inch.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Mark Bibbins > Ted Mathys > Brock Pennington > > Reading from their poetry > > Tuesday, May 18th, @ 7pm, FREE > > Red Room Reading Series @ Monkey Temple > 558 Broome Street, between 6th Ave. & Varick St. > Subway: C or E to Spring Street or 1/9 to Houston Street > Phone: 646-613-1620 > > > Mark Bibbins teaches writing workshops at The New School, where he co-founded > LIT magazine, and at Purchase College. His first book of poems,Sky Lounge, was > published by Graywolf and is a Lambda Literary Award finalist. > > Ted Mathys's first book of poetry, Forge, is forthcoming from Coffee House > Press. His poems have appeared or are forthcoming in Aufgabe, The Canary, > Fence, LIT, Jubilat, Ploughshares, Indiana Review, Quarterly West and > elsewhere. He currently works in book publishing and as the New York > representative of Hong Kong-based Sixth Finger Press. > > Brock Pennington has published poems in a couple of literary magazines, > including Acta Victoriana, and taught creative writing at Vassar College and > NYU. > > > Future Events: > > Tuesday, May 25th, @ 7pm, FREE > > Poetry Reading by Konundrum Engine Literary Review Contributors > > Elaine Bleakney > Oni Buchanan > Alex Lemon > Sonya Posmentier > Jon Woodward > > Elaine Bleakney is an > itinerant writer living in New York City. Raised in Honolulu, Hawaii, she has > obtained an MFA from UC Irvine and a fellowship from the International > Institute of Modern Letters. In addition to Konundrum Engine, her poems have > appeared or will appear in Crab Orchard Review and Hotel Amerika. > > Oni Buchanan holds a B.A. in English and Music from the University of > Virginia, an M.F.A. in poetry from the Iowa WritersWorkshop, and a Masters in > piano performance from the New England Conservatory of Music. Her first book > of poems, What Animal > , won the > University of Georgia Press Contemporary Poetry Series competition and was > published in October 2003. Her poems are forthcoming in the Best American > Poetry 2004 and Isn't It Romantic: 100 Love Poems by Younger American Poets. > She is currently on the piano faculty at the New School of Music in Cambridge, > MA. > > Alex Lemon, born in the wild and raised by squirrels and monkeys, has worked > as a butcher, an unloader of semis, a personal trainer, a potter, and as a > professional shoplifter. When not writing funny emails, getting tattooed, or > fixing flat tires on his bike, he writes poetry. He received his BA in > Political Science and Mass Communications from Macalester College. In May, he > will receive his MFA in Creative Writing from the University of Minnesota. He > is an assistant editor for LUNA, a journal of poetry and translation. His > poems are published or forthcoming from Pleiades, Black Warrior Review, New > Orleans Review, CutBank, Sonora Review, LUNA, The Jabberwock Review, Octopus, > and typo magazine. > > Sonya B. Posmentier lives in New York City, where she is an English teacher > and Director of Multicultural Affairs at Trinity School. She is the recipient > of a 2003 Brio Award from the Bronx Council on the Arts, and her poems have > appeared in or are forthcoming from Hanging Loose, Phoebe, Seneca Review and > Lyric. > > Jon Woodward was born in Kansas in 1978. He went to college at Colorado State > University. His first book of poems, Mister Goodbye Easter Island > , was > published by Alice James Books in 2003. He lives in the Boston area. > > Hosted by Konundrum poetry editor KC Trommer. > ------ End of Forwarded Message ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 09:07:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: PUB: chicano/latino literary contest Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PUB: chicano/latino literary contest ============================== 30th Annual Chicano/Latino Literary Contest http://www.hnet.uci.edu/spanishandportuguese/contest.html DEADLINE: June 1, 2004 GENRES: Short story collection OPEN TO: US citizens, or permanent residents LENGTH: Minimum 175 manuscript pages THEME: The Department of Spanish and Portuguese at the University of California, Irvine invites submissions of unpublished short story collections in Spanish or English. PRIZES: 1st Prize: $1,000 plus publication; 2nd Prize: $500, 3rd Prize: $250 ELECTRONIC ENTRY: Yes, on a diskette or as an attachment ADDRESS: Irvine Chicano/Latino Literary Prize, Dept. of Spanish and Portuguese, University of California, 322 Humanities Hall, Irvine, CA 92697-5275 EMAIL: cllp@uci.edu URL: http://www.hnet.uci.edu/spanishandportuguese/contest.html >> __\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:12:27 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Small Press Traffic Subject: FW: THE 2004 BAY AREA SUMMER POETRY MARATHON MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, SPT's series begins again in September...in the meantime we recommend you... Come celebrate innovative poetry all summer long at THE 2004 BAY AREA SUMMER POETRY MARATHON ! For more information, contact Donna de la Perriere & Joseph Lease at baypoetrymarathon@juno.com ______________________________________ SATURDAY, MAY 29 at The Lab, 2948 16th Street, San Francisco (16th & Mission BART stop: one block east on 16th) ** AFTERNOON ** 12 noon - 4pm Steve Ajay, Taylor Brady, Brent Cunningham, Maria Damon, Susan Gevirtz, Kristen Hanlon, John Isles, Wendy Kramer, Camille Roy ** EVENING ** 6:30pm - 9:30 pm Betsy Davids, Trane DeVore, kari edwards, Barbara Guest, Kevin Killian, Aaron Shurin, Carol Snow ______________________________________ SATURDAY, JUNE 26 at 21 Grand, 449 23rd Street, Oakland (19th Street BART: four blocks up Broadway, then turn left onto 23rd) ** AFTERNOON ** 12 noon - 4pm Julie Carr, Rob Halpern, Bill Luoma, James Meetze, Chris Nealon, Eleni Stecopoulos, Hugh Steinberg, Eileen Tabios, Stephanie Young ** EVENING ** 6:30pm - 9:30pm Rae Armantrout, Maxine Chernoff, Paul Hoover, Laura Moriarity, Denise Newman, Elizabeth Robinson, Kit Robinson ______________________________________ SATURDAY, JULY 24 at The Lab, 2948 16th Street, SF (16th & Mission BART stop: one block east on 16th) ** AFTERNOON ** 12 noon - 4pm Stefani Barber, Laynie Brown, Mary Burger, Del Ray Cross, Steve Dickison, Robert Gluck, Yedda Morrison, Jocelyn Saidenberg, Cynthia Sailers ** EVENING ** 6:30pm - 10:00pm Opal Palmer Adisa, Dodie Bellamy, Patricia Dientsfrey, Edward Foster, Claudia Keelan, Donald Revell, Leslie Scalapino ______________________________________ SATURDAY, AUGUST 21 at 21 Grand, 449 23rd Street, Oakland (19th Street BART: four blocks up Broadway, then turn left onto 23rd) ** AFTERNOON ** 12 noon - 4pm Jim Behrle, Sean Finney, Roxi Hamilton, Rodney Koeneke, Hazel McClure, Rusty Morrison, Mike Sikkema, Brian Teare, Elizabeth Treadwell ** EVENING ** 6:30pm - 9:30pm Norma Cole, Gloria Frym, Robert Hass, Lyn Hejinian, Brenda Hillman, Michael Palmer, Bin Ramke ______________________________________ For more information, contact Donna de la Perriere & Joseph Lease at baypoetrymarathon@juno.com Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson Executive Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCA 1111 -- 8th Street San Francisco, CA 94107 415.551.9278 http://www.sptraffic.org ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 01:23:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Works in Egress, 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the scales completely reversed create imbalance but ah the way the pharoah blew tonight ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:36:05 -0400 Reply-To: patrick@proximate.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Herron Subject: 50 inconsistencies of Berg case Comments: To: janet@proximate.org, Alex Verhoeven , ImitaPo , "Ethan Clauset (Ethan Clauset)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Fred Stutzman Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:16 PM http://tinyurl.com/3b447 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:05:39 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Color's Torrid Function! 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SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:17:05 -0800 Reply-To: dbuuck@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Buuck Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gloria_Anzald=C3=BAa_1942-2004?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Internationally recognized cultural theorist and creative writer, and Santa Cruz resident Gloria Evangelina Anzald=C3=BAa, passed away on May= 15 from diabetes-related complications. She was 61 years old. A versatile author, Anzald=C3=BAa published poetry, theoretical essays, short stories, autobiographical narratives, interviews, children's books, and multigenre anthologies. As one of the first openly lesbian Chicana authors, Anzald=C3= =BAa played a major role in redefining contemporary Chicano/a and lesbian/queer identities. And as editor or co-editor of three multicultural anthologies, Anzald=C3=BAa has also played a vital role in developing an inclusionary feminist movement. =09Anzald=C3=BAa is best known for Borderlands/La Frontera: The New Mestiza (1987), a hybrid collection of poetry and prose which was named one of the 100 Best Books of the Century by both Hungry Mind Review and Utne Reader. =09Anzald=C3=BAa's published works also include This Bridge Called My Back: Writings by Radical Women of Color (1981), a ground-breaking collection of essays and poems widely recognized by scholars as the premiere multicultural feminist text; Making Face, Making Soul/Haciendo Caras: Creative and Critical Perspectives by Feminists-of-Color (1990), a multigenre collection used in many university classrooms; two bilingual children's books--Friends from the Other Side/Amigos del otro lado (1993) and Prietita and the Ghost Woman/ Prietita y la Llorona (1995); Interviews/Entrevistas (2000), a memoir-like collection of interviews; and this bridge we call home: radical visions for transformation (2002), a co-edited collection of essays, poetry, and artwork that examines the current status of feminist/womanist theorizing. Anzald=C3=BAa has won nume= rous awards, including the Before Columbus Foundation American Book Award, the Lamda Lesbian Small Book Press Award, an NEA Fiction Award, the Lesbian Rights Award, the Sappho Award of Distinction, an NEA (National endowment for the Arts) Fiction Award, and the American Studies Association Lifetime Achievement Award. =09Anzald=C3=BAa was born in the Rio Grande Valley of south Texas in 1942, the eldest child of Urbano and Amalia Anzald=C3=BAa. She received her B.A.= from Pan American University, her M.A. from University of Texas, Austin, and was completing her doctorate at the University of California, Santa Cruz. She is survived by her mother, Amalia, her sister, Hilda, and two brothers: Urbano Anzald=C3=BAa, Jr. and Oscar Anzald=C3=BAa; five nieces, three nephe= ws, eighteen grandnieces and grandnephews, a multitude of aunts and uncles, and many close friends. =09A public memorial will be planned at a later date. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:46:04 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Ed Sanders proposes October Surprises Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The October Surprise Project A call to poets to take part in the October Surprise project. All around the nation, and the world as well, poets are speculating on what Bush and his close supporters might undertake as an October Surprise in order to remain in office. I thought it would be very ineresting to invite poets to come up with lists of possible October Surprises. So you are invited to send us your concepts of possible October Surprises. Please send us your O.S.'s!!! They can be prose, poetry, one-liners, a rhymned couplet or quatrain, or a predictive statement of any kind and any length (but please remember that brevity in the service of the O.S. will be appreciated by the reader.) October Surprise ideas can be funny, tragic, semi-tragic, prophetic, real world, surreal world or originated from any world at all. Remember they can be GOOD October Surprises as well as the opposite. Please spread the word to all poets. I will load submitted O.S. ideas onto the Woodstock Journal website at woodstockjournal.com The deadline for sending is May 31, 2004 Please send to edsanders@ulster.net or to Box 729 Woodstock, NY 12498 Ed Sanders ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:25:37 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit every straight lawyer in mass. is saying an x-tra hail mary tonite while banging his sec... dusk..spring surprises.. dust....drn... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:57:31 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Greetings friends, families, LOVER, My friend and film maker Douglas Harmer of Cow Cud Productions and I (me) will be preparing texts, interviews and other materials/actions for a film we are doing, not necessarily about Baltimore Writers and their bretheren, but about writing in general, with a very humorous advantage: the film will include our texts, interviews, readings, atmospheres, etc. The film is a film about writing, but it's also a film about film making: the making of the film is tied in with the process of revision (textual revision) and there are many outtakes and bad takes that are going to be used, because, in an interview, I said "I think it's necessary for a text to show some kind of evidence of its revision process; 'absolute texts' - finished texts - are tyranical." I interview the film maker and the film maker is now on the spot. It is a self consciouss elucidation of the other side of the camera, the other side of the text. It will be a summer long project, and this e-mail is an unre vised e xplanation of the premises involved. Everyone is invited, pick a time, a drink, and a laugh. Any questions? Write me. We're working on specifics. Perhaps YOU can shed some light on this project also. The final version of the film will include a booklet with sketches, text, interviews, aphorisms, and an audio CD with readings, interviews, outtakes. "I love you, but not that way." Christophe Casamassima -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:33:24 -0400 Reply-To: bstefans@earthlink.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Brian Kim Stefans [arras.net]" Subject: Glad to spam you... hope you guessed my name. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (Answer at bottom of email.) Just a friendly reminder about the /ubu launch. http://www.ubu.com/ubu A cd containing all 30 books of the series will be available for sale. Print-outs of the books will also be available for weighing and fetishizing. May 19th, 8-10 pm (and beyond?) Party/reading at Pierogi 2000 Gallery, 177 North 9th Street right here in Williamsburg (Bedford stop on L train). Short readings by Miles Champion, Barbara Cole, Rob Fitterman, Aaron Kunin, Michael Scharf and Brian Kim Stefans. Slide presentation and performance by visiting ambassador from Windsor, Canada, Gustave Morin, his first reading ever in New Yawk. June 3rd, 6-8 pm Roof Books, Ugly Duckling Presse, Granary Books, Qua, /ubu Editions & The Figures invite you to a book party at LFL Gallery, 530 West 24th Street (yes, that’s hipster Chelsea). View the horsey invite: http://www.arras.net/weblog/000891.html Answer: It's Brian ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:11:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: ld sntncs. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Poetry looks retarded and shell-shocked when written on a bus. Lick my strictures. Next time you travel, stay at a CNN partner hotel. I think Fanny Howe would make an excellent mother, figuratively speaking. John Kenneth Galbraith used to sneak over to Pierre Elliot Trudeau’s place at night. I’m not sure if I’m still in Kaoshiung. You can tell he really cares because he is sincere. About 300 million Indians live on less than a dollar a day. Seafood smells like something’s wrong. My standards are such that I’m guaranteed to change my standards. Anvil rhymes with door in another language. The baby on the airplane blew its nose into the blanket. Clearly these philosophers are far from impartial witnesses. It appears that I actually do not want so much intensity. Jasmine grows well in direct sunlight. The foot of the prostitute slides up Jesus’ inner thigh. No feeling is a direct match. We eat sound for lack of space. Now I mix up more important things. So alive she could never rebound. When you look through the lens of appetite. Like dogs they say we’re cleaner when we live outside ourselves. Looking at things realistically means confronting cliché head-on. I’ve always found community alienating. The world built on a premise; she’s my daughter and I can do what I want with her. The hobo makes a hobby of movement, and then gets serious about it. Slip out of bed at night. . . the guilt of thinking. None of the categories and methods I value are recognized by you. Going back to waiting tables. But this isn't (supposed to be) about you or me, it's about letting you know my brother, whom you never met, is dead and that is all. Hello Kitty exemplifies the ghost of an innocence never its own, implanted young, implanted young. The Bombay Stock Exchange recorded its biggest loss as the new government has the provisional support of the communist party. This place moves at enough simultaneous speeds that I thought I would feel good, comfortably lost, home. What worries you the most about me? I mix up prozac and prosaic. I’ve sought the emergence of positive values between the refusal of aspects of my own culture (mind) and a rejection of the tendencies of another. A home in writing. No more than that of a sensory organ for perceiving psychical qualities. There are infinite lines running from stimulus to arousal, a kind of treadmill. Let us pretend that you have an uncle who owns a fortune cookie factory. This uncle employs you to script the messages to be printed on the small slips of paper which are encased in individual cookies. To work an honest day you are your mother. Scholars write unwittingly about sadomasochistic sex. Can I wear your army hat on the way there? Twelve hundred varieties of bamboo, the majority endangered. Half of us are under a different impression. Keep writing 'form' for 'from.' All ready things press us further than we want to go. I’m really getting into reification these days—especially in Chinese. What a dream. That would make ZZ Top proud. Sarath ran through the Cambodian jungle for three years before arriving in Edmonton. At six years old I was amazed at his tree-climbing ability. I used to get Robert and Jack Frost mixed up. January rent? The cactus on the windowsill bloomed for two days, half an inch of glass from the windchill. Practice in twos. Christianity, or, dinner with your parents. If my heart is unbecoming attacked. The purpose of economic theory is to make those who are comfortable feel comfortable. There is much to be said and I am not the woman to say it. Late and hot I entered finally nothing I - couldn’t - and now, tending to matters hardly dissimilar to those forgotten by most of the useless and forgotten. Somewhere along the way I developed a sense that you and things related to you seem true and real (and thus surreal) while the rest of life is often dehumanizing and crappy. I’ve lost all those years. Everyone is in my own age bracket. Anyway, I'm fine and I wouldn't expect you to have anything to say on the matter. Please don't, in any way, feel obligated to respond; people react weirdly to death, and it's awkward feeling awkward about other people's understandable awkwardness, etc. Like sandpaper to a mountain. You can't even run in Taiwan, there's so many people milling around, doing something. Words which the ancient Greeks used to name beauty etymologically meant pattern or proportion of parts. Never tell yourself things. Bending, breaking. I want to let everyone know that I'm an asshole because I’m so sensitive. Looking like a giant lizard or a bored child. Bukowski’s acne was so disturbing that he hid outside in the bushes for his high school graduation. We believe that the paradoxes of abstraction must make their appearance in all communication more complex than that of mood signals, and that without these paradoxes the evolution of communication would be at an end. Life would then be an endless interchange of the objects of our current reality. There is a distance from your insides to your outsides which is as far as I can think without dreaming. I borrowed this form from Ron Silliman who would make a good father, figuratively speaking. The wind blew it off while we were gone. Because it's got lots of roots. -- http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:53:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: The Angry Arab News Service MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A source on politics, war, Middle East, and Chicken McNuggets. "I was thinking. You know that Spain had its own horrific version of Sep. 11, where hundreds of innocent people were killed. Yet, Spain did not invade other countries, did not designate itself the "beacon of freedom," did not arrange for the wholesale arrest of scores of Spanish Muslims, did not have one case of vigilante violence against Spanish Muslims, did not rush through the legislature a version of the Patriot Act, and they did not--not to my knowledge at least--send Geraldo on a search for bad guys. What does that say about Spain? Or more importantly, what does that say about the US?" posted by As'ad @ 7:24 PM link * Comments (3) http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:21:56 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Spearating Bush from the Real Issue In-Reply-To: <20040518025350.70696.qmail@web41811.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Spain is a medium sized country that completed its youth 500 years ago by expelling the jews and moors (1492) enslaving and destroying the Americas (1492-1825) and exporting those riches to Europe wherein all of European "progress'was financed by the booty.Please do not try to say Europe has Moral Superiority, it does not; a generation ago Europe killed the jews, ruled colonial empires, slaughtered people in Russia for thinking and more. I would put all the horrors that Americans have committed, and there are many up against all the horrors of Europe who has done worse? We are all benefiting from exploitation. Europeans on the whole despise their muslim populations, Romano Prodi, president of Europe only the other day said that the entrance of Eastern European nations would rebalance Europe as a continent out of the Christian tradition. Until very recently a 'german'from Brazil could get a German passport because of blood while a Turk who lived in Germany for 40 years could not. Go to the suburbs of Paris or Rome or Berlin and ask those Muslim populations if they are treated well? I venture to guess that my Pakistani neighbors here in Chicago are treated much better and are less harrassed even today. Europe and the US are part of the same world-wide exploitive system. Who do you think finances all those 30 day vacations and 'free' socialized medicine? Exploitation is not just an American problem. Americans exploit Latin Americans and Europeans Exploit Africans and others this is the reason we are rich and the rest of the world is poor. Europe has not moral superiority the Europeans did not invade Iraq because it was not in their interests to do so it had nothing to do with Morality. I also must say that while did not agree with Bush on Iraq we have to admit that we are in war right now to decide what kind of world-view will succeed. While I totally reject Bush's means I do not believe that the Islamic Fundamentalism represented by Saudi Arabia, Bin Laden and the rest is preferable to western democracy. With all its problems would anyone trade our current flawed system for Saudi Arabia's We are engaged in a spiral of death, beheadings, abuse of prisoners, violence, murder, what we need is not screaming or yelling but quiet, prophetic responses to all this violence. We need a Ghandi, or Saladin or St Francis someone who can see through all of this and remove the moral authority from those who have chosen the road of death. the answer to all this pain and death is to realize that we cannot go on as a world where Americans, Europeans and Japanese live like kings while the rest of the world gets only crumbs. But someone needs to challenge all of this in a non violent way because September 11th is just the beginning of the pain that this death spiral is causing. Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of andrew loewen > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:54 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: The Angry Arab News Service > > > A source on politics, war, Middle East, and Chicken > McNuggets. > > > "I was thinking. You know that Spain had its own > horrific version of Sep. 11, where hundreds of > innocent people were killed. Yet, Spain did not invade > other countries, did not designate itself the "beacon > of freedom," did not arrange for the wholesale arrest > of scores of Spanish Muslims, did not have one case of > vigilante violence against Spanish Muslims, did not > rush through the legislature a version of the Patriot > Act, and they did not--not to my knowledge at > least--send Geraldo on a search for bad guys. What > does that say about Spain? Or more importantly, what > does that say about the US?" > > > posted by As'ad @ 7:24 PM link > * Comments (3) > > > > > http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 23:26:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Cutting the Timber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cutting the Timber A man lay down across the threshold of the kitchen outside, head within. He was to represent the saw. Two players now took hold of his feet outside, while two others caught his head and shoulders in the kitchen. They pulled against one another, forward and backwards, as if they were sawing wood, until one pair proved too strong for the other. - Irish Wake Amusements, Sean O Suilleabhain, Mercier, cork, 1967, p. 82. _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 00:21:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Annie Finch Subject: Re: creeley & olson; form vs. genre Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, just finally had time to read this=20 fascinating excerpt from your book. And I am=20 wondering at it, because--while the whole idea of=20 symbolic action as you describe it wonderfully=20 illuminates the Black Mt. interest in=20 form/content--when I get to the "motivated" part=20 I hit a wall: it is really hard for me to think=20 of Duncan's poems, for example, as "pragmatic' or=20 "motivated" to "do" a "function"----this parallel=20 seems to make no room for the poem as a field for=20 discovery, as a series of filaments making=20 visible the unknown (yet the description of form=20 and content does seem to make plenty of room for=20 the poem as discovery). I should read your book=20 and Duncan's discussion of Pragmatism but for now=20 I'm curious how you see the idea of the poem as=20 motivated discourse playing out in Black Mountain=20 poetics? Thanks again for posting this, Annie Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:12:15 -0400 =46rom: mmagee@DEPT.ENGLISH.UPENN.EDU Subject: Re: creeley & olson; form vs. genre Annie, Steven and all, these questions regarding form and content are someth= ing I deal w/ at length in my new book _Emancipating Pragmatism_. As Duncan arg= ued long ago now, the Black Mountain preoccupation w/ the relationship between t= hem arises from their interest in William James, Dewey & Kenneth Burke. Here's = a short excerpt from my book (some of which will be out of context...): ********************* The following is one of Burke=EDs more lucid descriptions of language as sym= bolic action, in regard to poetry: The general approach to the poem might be called =ECpragmatic=EE in this= sense: It assumes that a poem=EDs structure is to be described most accurately by thin= king always of the poem=EDs function. It assumes that the poem is designed to = =ECdo something=EE for the poet and his readers, and that we can make the most rel= evant observations about its design by considering the poem as the embodiment of t= his act=D6this pragmatic view of the poem=D6through the emphasis upon the act pr= omptly integrates considerations of =ECform=EE and =ECcontent.=EE Burke=EDs =ECpragmatic view of the poem=EE has as its antecedent Dewey=EDs s= tipulation that =ECin the act [of writing] there is no distinction between, but perfect integration of manner and content, form and substance.=EE I note this not to privilege Dewey over Burke via his =ECoriginality=EE but simply as a way of pointing out that the concept of language as symbolic action which Ellison found so useful might be located in Dewey=EDs work as well. Why is this important? The answer has to do with the way the concept of symbolic action =ECintegrates considerations of =EBform=ED and =EBcontent.=ED=EE As Burke= explains in the quote above, when one speaks of symbolic action there is a presumption that motives (political, social, psychological, economic) are manifested in desig= n. What might be considered merely =ECcontent=EE (say, a political point of vie= w) according to another paradigm has, according to pragmatism, formal consequences. Conversely (and this is equally important), *form* (syntax, grammar, poetics) is considered as *a kind of content*, as socially substantive, as having, potentially, a social function. Burke, Dewey, and Ellison are all in agreement on this point. Dewey considers philosophy in the same way that Burke considers the poem: as= a particular kind of *motivated* discourse. He assumes, that is, that a philosophical discourse, one of Emerson=EDs for instance, is designed to do something, and he considers that discourse =ECas the embodiment of that act.= =EE Dewey insists that philosophy is not a form of objective or abstract knowled= ge but rather =ECa form of desire, of effort at action.=EE Thus if Emerson= writes, as he does in =ECMontaigne,=EE =ECthe philosophy we want is one of fluxions and mobility=EE (CW 4:160), Dewey wouldn=EDt hesitate to relate this to Emerson= =EDs political desires, his interest in =ECthe strivings of men to achieve democr= acy=EE and his contemporaneous agitation in favor of Emancipation. He would, in al= l likelihood, point out that Emerson here construes philosophy as a *desire* - not a written transcription of an abstract truth but something we =ECwant.= =EE Moreover, he would find in Emerson=EDs style - his =ECparagraphs incomprehen= sible=EE - similar motivations: a will toward unpredictability in the name of experimentation and invention. What this has to do specifically with sustaining egalitarian politics and democratic institutions I will make more explicit in Chapter Two. Emerson theorized that the strivings of people to achieve democracy in America was predicated on the ability to revise the definition of America and the definitions at work in its founding documents. There needed to be, in Emerson=EDs words, a =ECbelief [among Americans] that= as the people have made a government, they can make another=EE (JMN11:406). And th= is belief could best be fostered by a corresponding belief that the generation = and maintenance of meaning was an unpredictable and ongoing affair. *************** -- ___________________________________ Annie Finch http://www.anniefinch.com "The spiritual world is like the natural=20 world-only diversity will save it." -Margot Adler ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 23:22:19 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Solana D'Lamant Subject: Re: Spearating Bush from the Real Issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ray, Thank you so much for your posting. You make more sense than many, many = others who have commented. I appreciate your worldly view (and have for = a number of years)=20 Solana ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Haas Bianchi=20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 11:21 PM Subject: Spearating Bush from the Real Issue Spain is a medium sized country that completed its youth 500 years ago = by expelling the jews and moors (1492) enslaving and destroying the Americas (1492-1825) and exporting those = riches to Europe wherein all of European "progress'was financed by the = booty.Please do not try to say Europe has Moral Superiority, it does not; a = generation ago Europe killed the jews, ruled colonial empires, slaughtered people = in Russia for thinking and more. I would put all the horrors that = Americans have committed, and there are many up against all the horrors of = Europe who has done worse? We are all benefiting from exploitation. Europeans on the whole despise their muslim populations, Romano Prodi, president of Europe only the other day said that the entrance of = Eastern European nations would rebalance Europe as a continent out of the = Christian tradition. Until very recently a 'german'from Brazil could get a = German passport because of blood while a Turk who lived in Germany for 40 = years could not. Go to the suburbs of Paris or Rome or Berlin and ask those = Muslim populations if they are treated well? I venture to guess that my = Pakistani neighbors here in Chicago are treated much better and are less = harrassed even today. Europe and the US are part of the same world-wide exploitive system. = Who do you think finances all those 30 day vacations and 'free' socialized medicine? Exploitation is not just an American problem. Americans = exploit Latin Americans and Europeans Exploit Africans and others this is the = reason we are rich and the rest of the world is poor. Europe has not moral superiority the Europeans did not invade Iraq because it was not in = their interests to do so it had nothing to do with Morality. I also must say that while did not agree with Bush on Iraq we have to = admit that we are in war right now to decide what kind of world-view will succeed. While I totally reject Bush's means I do not believe that the Islamic Fundamentalism represented by Saudi Arabia, Bin Laden and the = rest is preferable to western democracy. With all its problems would anyone = trade our current flawed system for Saudi Arabia's We are engaged in a spiral of death, beheadings, abuse of prisoners, violence, murder, what we need is not screaming or yelling but quiet, prophetic responses to all this violence. We need a Ghandi, or Saladin = or St Francis someone who can see through all of this and remove the moral authority from those who have chosen the road of death. the answer to = all this pain and death is to realize that we cannot go on as a world = where Americans, Europeans and Japanese live like kings while the rest of = the world gets only crumbs. But someone needs to challenge all of this in = a non violent way because September 11th is just the beginning of the pain = that this death spiral is causing. Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of andrew loewen > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:54 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: The Angry Arab News Service > > > A source on politics, war, Middle East, and Chicken > McNuggets. > > > "I was thinking. You know that Spain had its own > horrific version of Sep. 11, where hundreds of > innocent people were killed. Yet, Spain did not invade > other countries, did not designate itself the "beacon > of freedom," did not arrange for the wholesale arrest > of scores of Spanish Muslims, did not have one case of > vigilante violence against Spanish Muslims, did not > rush through the legislature a version of the Patriot > Act, and they did not--not to my knowledge at > least--send Geraldo on a search for bad guys. What > does that say about Spain? Or more importantly, what > does that say about the US?" > > > posted by As'ad @ 7:24 PM link > * Comments (3) > > > > > http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ > > = ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:45:07 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: elen gebreab Subject: FW: INFO: new diaspora drama festival - New Bedford, MA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>INFO: new diaspora drama festival =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D Greetings Family, Please share the news... 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Hope to see you there... >> ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 18:29:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Works in Egress, 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit since then there was only later tho tomorrow always seemed to be in the past ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 02:09:17 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: neworld.png MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII neworld.png I in will I not will defend not your defend right your to right say to it, say but it, belief your in belief every I way every can. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the hands follow the body form follows content the poem cut from air follows the heart... 3:00...dawn dddda da...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 03:11:42 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Ashbery a.k.a Sara Teasdale on steroids... late nite..dddda da da dddum...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 04:47:26 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jane Sprague Subject: West End Reading Series: MAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WEST END READING SERIES: MAY, 2004 Poets Karen Anderson, Terrence Chiusano, Sarah Jefferis and Jonathan = Monroe will read from their work on Saturday, May 22 at 7:00 pm. Lost = Dog Lounge. Ithaca, NY. Free & open to all.=20 Karen L. Anderson grew up in Connecticut and received an M.F.A. from the = University of Iowa and an M.A. from Victoria University in Wellington, = New Zealand; she is currently a Ph.D. student at Cornell University. She has had work published in Volt, Indiana Review, Fence, Colorado = Review, Poetry Ireland Review, and other publications; her most recent project is on bee biology. Terrence Chiusano is a graduate of the University at Buffalo's Poetics = Program and holds an undergraduate writing degree from the University of = Pittsburgh. His poems have appeared in Basinski: A Zine of the Arts; can = we have our ball back; Kenning: A Newsletter of Contemporary Poetry, = Poetics, and Nonfiction Writing; Mirage #4/Period(ical); Queen Street = Quarterly: Forum for the Contemporary Canadian Arts; Serving_Suggestion; = and in the Buffalo Vortex broadside series. On Generation and Corruption = is his first book. He currently lives in Pittsburgh, PA. Sarah Jefferis completed her M.F.A. at Cornell University in Ithaca, New = York in 1999. She has a B.A. and an M.A. from Hollins University in = Virginia. She is currently an Assistant Professor at Ithaca College = where she holds a joint contract in the Department of English and The = Writing Department. Her poems have appeared or will appear in Sundry: A = Journal of the Arts, The Hollins Critic, The Mississippi Review, The = Comstock Review, Icon, Icarus, The New Coin, The Beacon Street Review, = The Perspectives on Multiculturalism and Diversity Journal, and the = Naughyde Literary Journal. One of her most amazing accomplishments = includes having a French Patisserie named in her honor.=20 Jonathan Monroe's poems have appeared in The American Poetry Review, The = Barcelona Review, Epoch, Harvard Review, Xcp: Cross-Cultural Poetics, = and other journals. Selections from his book-length prose poem = manuscript, Demosthenes' Dictionary, have appeared in Combo, Epoch, = Moria, Slope, unarmed, Xcp and, most recently, Verse and VOLT. Author of = A Poverty of Objects: The Prose Poem and the Politics of Genre = (Cornell), and editor and co-author of Poetry, Community, Movement, a = special double issue of Diacritics, and Aftershock: Poetry and Cultural = Criticism since 1989, in Part II of a double issue of Poetics Today on = Poetics of Avant-Garde Poetries (co-edited with Brian McHale and Meir = Sternberg), Monroe has published widely on modern and contemporary = poetry and cultural criticism. Professor of Comparative Literature, = Associate Dean and Director of Writing Programs and Director of the John = S. Knight Institute for Writing in the Disciplines at Cornell = University, he has edited and co-authored as well two companion volumes = on writing and disciplinarity: Writing and Revising the Disciplines = (Cornell) and Local Knowledges, Local Practices: Writing in the = Disciplines at Cornell (Pittsburgh). Among his other recent publications = are "Unsettling Knowledge: A Poetry Science/Trialogue" (with Alice = Fulton and Roald Hoffmann, in Language and Learning across the = Disciplines), "Writing and the Disciplines" (for a special issue of = AAC&U's Peer Review on Writing and the New Academy), and "Index and = Symptom: 'Connective Reading', (Post)Language Writing, and Cultural = Critique" (Contemporary Literature). WEST END Reading Series Saturday, May 22 Lost Dog Cafe Ithaca, NY 7:00 pm FREE This event is made possible in part by public funds from the Community = Arts Partnership of Tompkins County / NYS Council on the Arts = Decentralization funds and the generous support of the Constance = Saltonstall Foundation for the Arts. www.slyfox.org ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:55:08 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: yikes Comments: To: Grid Locke MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII BLEEP THE PRESS: CAMERA MOVED OFF POWELL DURING RUSSERT GRILLING; AIDE ATTEMPTED TO CUT OFF INTERVIEW Sun May 16 2004 10:45:35 ET **Exclusive Details** An aide to Sec. of State Colin Powell ordered a halt to a MEET THE PRESS interview and directed a camera to shoot a palm tree during provocative questioning by host Tim Russert! Powell was being interview by satellite from Jordan. State Department press aide Emily Miller fumed as Tim Russert went beyond the 10 minutes allotted for the NBC Sunday session. MORE 13 minutes in to the interview, Miller attempted to pull the plug. As Russert grilled Powell on his presentation at the UN of Iraq's alleged WMDs -- Miller moved the single remote camera off Powell. "You're off," Miller announced. "I am not off," Powell warned. "No. They can't use it, they're editing it..." Miller said on an open microphone. "Emily, get out of the way. Bring the camera back please," the secretary snapped. MORE Russert aired the exchange unedited. Powell was 45 minutes late to the taping, a top source explained. NBC's MEET THE PRESS joined in progress.... TIM RUSSERT: Finally, Mr. Secretary, in February of 2003, you placed your enormous personal credibility before the United Nations and laid out a case against Saddam Hussein, citing. (Camera moved off of interview subject) EMILY MILLER, STATE DEPARTMENT PRESS AIDE: You're off. SECRETARY POWELL: I am not off. EMILY MILLER, PRESS AIDE: No. They can't use it, they're editing it. SECRETARY POWELL: He's still asking the questions. EMILY MILLER, PRESS AIDE: He was not ... SECRETARY POWELL: Tim, I am sorry I lost you. MR. RUSSERT: I am right here Mr. Secretary. I would hope they would put you back on camera. I don't know who did that. EMILY MILLER, PRESS AIDE: He was going to go for another five minutes. SECRETARY POWELL: We've really scre... MR. RUSSERT: I think that was one of your staff Mr. Secretary. I don't think that's appropriate. SECRETARY POWELL: Emily, get out of the way. Bring the camera back please. (Camera returns to the interview subject) I think we're back on Tim, go ahead with your last question. MR. RUSSERT: Thank you very much, sir. In February of 2003, you put your enormous personal reputation on the line before the United Nations and said that you had solid sources for the case against Saddam Hussein. It now appears that an agent called "Curve Ball" had misled the CIA by suggesting that Saddam had trucks and trains that were delivering biological chemical weapons. How concerned are you that some of the information you shared with the world is now inaccurate and discredited? SECRETARY POWELL: I'm very concerned. When I made that presentation in February 2003, it was based on the best information that the Central Intelligence Agency made available to me. We studied it carefully. We looked at the sourcing and the case of the mobile trucks and trains. There was multiple sourcing for that. Unfortunately, that multiple sourcing over time has turned out to be not accurate, and so I'm deeply disappointed. But I'm also comfortable that at the time that I made the presentation it reflected the collective judgment, the sound judgment, of the intelligence community, but it turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading. And for that I'm disappointed, and I regret it. MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Secretary, we thank you very much for joining us again and sharing your views with us today. SECRETARY POWELL: Thanks, Tim. (END OF PRE-TAPE INTERVIEW) MR. RUSSERT: AND THAT WAS AN UNEDITED INTERVIEW WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE, TAPED EARLIER THIS MORNING FROM JORDAN. WE APPRECIATE SECRETARY POWELL'S WILLINGNESS TO OVERRULE HIS PRESS AIDES' ATTEMPT TO ABRUPTLY CUT OFF OUR DISCUSSION AS I BEGAN TO ASK MY FINAL QUESTION. COMING NEXT ... (END) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:53:06 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: prison writing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://www.canada.com/entertainment/books/story.html?id=15075fba-6584-41b9-a7e0-83a50ae13eed Prisoners of their own literary success Issue of whether inmate authors deserve royalties Sarah Coffey Monday, May 17, 2004 Author Wally Lamb poses with his pets, Icarus and Echo, right,. Lamb's book, "Couldn't Keep it to Myself," is a collection of stories by female inmates in a Connecticut prison. (AP / Carla M. Cataldi) HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) -- Ever since eight inmates at the York Correctional Institution became award-winning authors, they've been prisoners of their own success. Their anthology, Couldn't Keep It to Myself: Testimonies From Our Imprisoned Sisters, published in 2003, was a hit that brought them unexpected notoriety and another day in court. The compilation of stories, composed during a writing class taught at the prison in Niantic, Conn., offered readers insight into the criminal justice system, as well as the sexual abuse, violence, drugs, alcoholism and poverty that shape many inmates' lives before they get to prison. But as soon as it was released controversy erupted over whether inmates should be allowed to profit from work done in prison. So the state sued to garnish the royalties each prisoner received. "It was the publication of the book that really complicated things," said best-selling author Wally Lamb, who coached and edited the women's writing workshop. "There was a defeatism that really injected the women." In April, the Department of Correction temporarily halted the writing program after learning that one inmate, Barbara Parsons Lane, who has been incarcerated since 1996 on a manslaughter conviction, won a $25,000 US prize from the PEN American Center for work that was featured in the book. "We were extremely disappointed to learn there had been this negative reaction inside the prison. It seemed like a real lost opportunity at York when there was limelight to be shared by everybody," PEN Director Larry Siems said. The prison's reaction to the success of its own rehabilitative program was confusing to Lamb. "They felt that they had told their truth and taken the risk of sharing that with strangers, and had done something worthwhile. It was discouraging to have the state react the way it did," said Lamb, author of She's Come Undone and I Know This Much Is True. The program is now back up and running after news of the shutdown made headlines, although Lamb was not able to meet with the women this year until April 23. When classes resumed the women were pleased to discover that computer files containing personal writing that they thought had been destroyed by prison officials could be recovered from a backup file. It will take time to rebuild the program and the women's trust, but the process has begun, Lamb said. "At long last, the Department of Correction not only sees the value of the program, but has now gotten behind it," he said. It was Lamb's connections to the book that caused Attorney General Richard Blumenthal concern. He worried Lamb would help the book become a best seller and make it a moneymaker for the women. The state wanted to avoid helping prisoners profit from their crimes and incarceration. When it became apparent the book's royalties wouldn't be huge, the state settled its case, he said. "Bringing the action certainly was within the authority to enforce the law. But at the same time this settlement recognizes that the book was not a cornucopia of financial riches," Blumenthal said. The state went to court last year seeking to seize the book's royalties at a rate of $117 a day. The effort was made under a law that permits the state to recover incarceration costs from inmates. As it turns out, each of the women is entitled to $5,600 from publisher Harper Collins following release from prison. The settlement between the state and the women will see the prisoners each paying the state $500. The York writing program will receive $3,500 and another $500 will be paid to the state Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services. Victims' rights advocates see the settlement as an affront. Dee Parsons, whose son was murdered in 1994, said Blumenthal caved under pressure from Department of Correction Commissioner Theresa Lantz and Lamb. "It's not about vengeance. None of these women did anything to me. It's a question of what's right. They have the time to do this. Our survivors don't have the time to write a book," said Parsons, former president of the Connecticut chapter of Survivors of Homicide. "It's very unfair. I'm devastated by the fact the state changed their mind," she said. Lantz stands by the program and looks forward to its rebuilding, said Department of Correction spokesman Brian Garnett. "It's back in session and we're moving forward," he said. The stories in the women's book do not deal directly with the crimes the women committed. A bill now before the Connecticut legislature would revise Connecticut's "Son of Sam" law -- named after the New York killer who tried to sell his memoirs -- to allow the state to distinguish between inmates making money from a skill learned in prison and from those who try to profit from the crime they committed. Lamb said the women didn't mean to cause such controversy. They are now wary of bringing attention to themselves by being too successful, he said. The women used the writing class to dig deep into their emotions, examining the situations and choices in their lives that had taken them to prison, and coming to terms with responsibility for their actions, he said. Lane's daughter, Andrea Graham, who accepted the PEN award in New York City on April 12 on her mother's behalf, said writing the book has been therapeutic for her mother. "She's definitely a different person," Graham said. "It's given her the therapy to become more the person she is." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:28:59 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Kelleher Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mike Kelleher Organization: Just Buffalo Literary Center Subject: JUST BUFFALO E-NEWSLETTER 5-17-04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit IN THE HIBISCUS ROOM JUST ADDED: JUNKYARD BOOKS' LOWDOWN HIGHWAY TOUR Featuring Queer Spoken Word Artists Cooper Lee Bombardier and Len Plass, also featuring local queer writers and spoken word artists, including the one and only David Butler. Wednesday, June 2, 8 p.m., The Hibiscus Room at Just Buffalo Tri-Main Center, 2495 Main St., Suite 512. Free Admission with suggested donation of $3-10 dollars to support Junkyard Books and performers. Local artists interested in performing can call Mike Kelleher at Just Buffalo at 832-5400. The Show is a multimedia performance involving spoken word, slides and,music. Local artists are encouraged to join us as headliners or opening acts. Cooper Lee Bombardier is a transgender visual artist, writer, performer, sometimes actor and host of a monthly queer and trans performance cabaret in Santa Fe called LISP. Cooper has performed and shown visual art extensively in the Bay Area, and has performed across the country both with Sister Spit and by himself. He has spoken on panels of artists at events such as Hampshire College's Art And Social Change Conference in 2001, and was a featured artist in the 2001 National Queer Arts Festival. Len Plass grew from a sprout indifferent areas of Connecticut. She moved to Massachusetts in 1996 and, for a brief stint, attended Boston's Emerson College where she began performing spoken word. She then moved west, eventually to San Francisco where she owned and ran the Bearded Lady Cafe from 1999 until its closing in 2001. That same year, she co-founded Junkyard Books and is published in their debut anthology, Lowdown Highway. OPEN READINGS Marlyn Martinez-Saroff & Claudia Torres Thursday, May 20, 7 P.M. The Book Corner, 1801 Main St., Niagara Falls, NY Originally from the Bronx, NY, Marlyn Martinez-Saroff now lives in Western New York. She has been published in two poetry anthologies: Ballads of Our Lives and In Between Days, and also in ARTVOICE and The Buffalo News. Marlyn has degrees in Spanish Literature, Psychology, Accounting, and an MBA in Organizational Behavior. She says about her writing, that it is spontaneous and difficult to categorize. Sosa, Cisneros, Pâ are among the writers she derives the most sustenance from. Claudia Torresis the eleemosynary host of the public access program Truckstop Intellectuals which airs as infrequently as possible. She says her writing is often a cross between an "extremely painful myocardial infarction and terminal flatulence," although she views it, analytically, "as a jagged tear in the universal fabric." She acknowledges the writing of Masters and Johnson, and Shere Hite as influences in her own writing MEMBERSHIP CAMPAIGN SIGNED, LIMITED EDITION ROBERT CREELEY BROADSIDE AVAILABLE As part of the spring membership campaign, Just Buffalo is offering a special membership gift to the first fifty people who join at a level of $50 or more after May 1. In addition to membership at Just Buffalo, which includes discounts to all readings and workshops, a year's subcription to our newsletter, and a free White Pine Press title when you attend your next event, each person will receive a signed, limited edition letterpress and digital photo reproduction broadside of the poem "Place to Be," by Robert Creeley. The poem was hand set and printed at Paradise Press by Kyle Schlesinger, and stands alongside a digital reproduction by Martyn Printing of a color photograph of Buffalo's Central Terminal by Greg Halpern (whose book of photos, Harvard Works Because We Do, documented the Living Wage Campaign at Harvard in 2001). Send check or money order to the address at the bottom of this email, or call us at 832-5400 to use your credit card. WORKSHOPS ANNOUNCING A SUMMER WORKSHOP WITH POET JORGE GUITART WORKSHOP ON EXPERIMENTAL POETRY 4 Saturdays July 10, 17, 24, and 31, 10 a.m -12 p.m. in The Hibiscus Room at Just Buffalo $100, $90 members, individual classes $30, $25 members If you are tired of the trite and expected in the poetry of others or your own, try your hand at playing with language in a serious, organized way. Let randomness and unusual combinatory procedures get you started in creating lines that no one could possibly have uttered or written before. Bring poetry back to being a most unusual collocation of words. Let the poem write you instead of the other way. Embark on the pleasures of intertextuality, stealing from famous texts and subverting their intentions. You will be introduced to techniques that will help you create hundreds if not thousands of amazing poems in a relatively short time. Jorge Guitart teaches in the Department of Romance Languages and Literatures at UB. He has been a member of JBLC Writers in Education since 1984 and has led poetry workshops in Buffalo public schools. He is the author of Foreigner's Notebook (Shuffaloff 1993) and Film Blanc (Meow Press 1996). He is represented at UB's Electronic Poetic Center. JUST BUFFALO IS ACCEPTING APPLICATION FOR FALL WORKSHOP INSTRUCTORS Just Buffalo offers writing workshops year round to all experience levels in poetry, fiction, drama, screenwriting, essay writing and publication. We are looking for published writers to teach workshops in the Fall of 2004. Courses can be single day courses, or they can meet once a week for two, four, six or eight weeks. They can meet evenings during the week or Saturday mornings. Please send a cover letter, resume, and course description to Workshop Application, Just Buffalo Literary Center, 2495 Main St., Ste 512, Buffalo, NY 14214 or email it to Mike Kelleher at mjk@justbuffalo.org. SPOKEN ARTS RADIO W/ Mary Van Vorst 6:35 a.m. and 8:35 a.m. Thursdays and 8:35 a.m. Sundays on WBFO 88.7 FM June 3 & 6 N'Tare Ali Gault (Editor of Njozi Magazine) July 8 & 11 Lee Stinger (Author of _Grand Central Winter_ and _Sleepaway School_) Stinger will also be doing a book signing at Talking Leaves Books on July 16. _______________________________ Mike Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center 2495 Main St., Ste. 512 Buffalo, NY 14214 716.832.5400 716.832.5710 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk@justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:26:50 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Rumsfeld Is War Criminal! Seymour Hersh Confirms Ass Press Reports Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press (http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/) Rumsfeld Is War Criminal! Seymour Hersh Confirms Assassinated Press Reports They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:35:01 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tim Peterson Subject: Sandra Simonds' contact info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Can someone please confirm whether this is the correct email address for the poet Sandra Simonds? Ssimonds23@aol.com Thanks, Tim ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:48:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vernon Frazer Subject: Re: Prison Writing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I worked 26 1/2 years for the State of Connecticut. When I learned about this situation, it didn't surprise me at all. It's typical of the way State government works. Practices such as these occur on a daily basis. Obviously, the state's attorney general discussed the former inmates' prospective royalties with literary people who have no idea of how much authors earn. It sends a message to prisoners that no successful rehabilitation will go unpunished. At the moment, I think Connecticut looks as foolish as Florida did after the 2000 election. Vernon http://vernonfrazer.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:06:47 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: LA: Writers & Teachers TONIGHT with Todd Baron + 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Los Angeles, CA's Writers & Teachers Series are back after their April hiatus. First up, TONIGHT, Tuesday, May 18, 2004, is Todd Baron (new book TV EYE, Chax Press, 2004) reading with four former students from the Crossroads School: Amanda Moret William Greene Anna Ayeroff Maxim Ludwig as usual, this fine event is at 7:30pm at Barnes & Noble Westwood, and there are FREE BROWNIES (& free parking). 10850 West Pico Blvd. West Los Angeles, CA 90064 (corner of Westwood & Pico in the Westside Pavilion Mall) All best, Catherine "back home from the spare room series" Daly cadaly@pacbell.net P.S. Anyone in LA who wants an amazing puppy -- we found him last night & he violates our lease; he's been to the vet. There are T, I, M shapes on his face. He's a medium-sized Doberman-blend mutt with no chip. 8 months, very affectionate, knows how to sit, housebroken. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:47:12 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Re: Cutting the Timber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let's see, a human saw anthropocentric to it's core. -Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Sondheim" To: Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:26 PM Subject: Cutting the Timber > Cutting the Timber > > A man lay down across the threshold of the kitchen outside, head within. > He was to represent the saw. Two players now took hold of his feet > outside, while two others caught his head and shoulders in the kitchen. > They pulled against one another, forward and backwards, as if they were > sawing wood, until one pair proved too strong for the other. > > - Irish Wake Amusements, Sean O Suilleabhain, Mercier, cork, 1967, p. 82. > > > _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:49:39 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Bouchard Subject: new publication / an announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sound Swarms and Other Poems by Daniel Bouchard published in an edition of 250 by Slack Buddha Press saddlestitch, 14 pages First in a series; forthcoming authors include: Michael Basinski Carla Billitieri Michael Franco Benjamin Friedlander Ralph Hawkins William R. Howe Wendy Kramer L. A. Phillips Keith Tuma Stephen T. Vessels Tyrone Williams & others Individual Chapbooks in the series: $5.00 Sucscriptions for the Series from the press: 6 Chapbooks, $20.00 10 Chapbooks, $32.00 Make checks payable to L. A. Phillips or William R. Howe La Perruque Editions Slack Buddha Press 50 Garrison Avenue Somerville, MA 02144 USA ><>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Bouchard Senior Production Coordinator The MIT Press Journals Five Cambridge Center Cambridge, MA 02142 bouchard@mit.edu phone: 617.258.0588 fax: 617.258.5028 <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><>> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:57:51 +0200 Reply-To: magee@uni.lodz.pl Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Magee Subject: Re: habilitacja MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have only the discourse for the conceptual frame, and within this frame, the ability to organize at least the appearance of factual substance, substantiating an interpretation which must allow for an element of unpredictability less and less precise. Wouldn't you rather listen to music? They are upstairs. What about this hour. What makes this hour any different than the one before or the one following after the words cease being written, wanting to be. They want to become something, substance, material, formed. How can processes be the object of a discourse? The processes are those the writing attempts to perceive, identify, expose. There is no space in such a discourse for intangible referents, traces of meaning trailing off. Language happens at those edges, where the referent dissolves. Or there might be a narrative, some sequence of events told one way or another, one after another or collapsed within one another, superimposed temporalities, shifting planes on which multiple and disconnected events appear for only as long as a glance, to the side, off to the side, the peripheries' abandonments unmarking wide oscillations among barely perceptible points of departure. Parallel, simultaneity and side by side proliferating layers manifest their texts, designating a discursive function towards processes other than the construction of the text itself, which can never be said to be made entirely of itself, its own contents. Discontented, they were said to have formed themselves on these grounds, protesting, at an originating site of disobedience. Those were streets that were once occupied. They still are, there still are, people, in them, circulating. Does too much circulate without determinate trajectories? Do you have to know where each word is going? The fatefulness of the arbitrary, and pleasure in random rhythms, flows, resisting sequence, though each sentence establishes the expectation that one will be able to finish it and proceed to the next, and after that, the next. When the book to be cited begins to disappear, and there remains only the gesture towards one or another book, multiplying, without an object, without any textual object at all, without sequence, or semblance, if that is possible, how can it be possible to make a writing that would refuse to resemble even the world, the purely imaginary world, that writing wishes to construct? There is no journalism here, where the writing turns away from the world, the discursive paradigms for comprehending the present time. Neither can the language go back in time. Those books, their languages, their centuries, their locations, distend in the non-space of the rotating planes multiplying without center, core, gravity, weight point. As though so many spaces could be projected unattached to their turning point, and attain an irreducible matter and duration, however momentary they happen to be glimpsed. Why couldn't that, also, operate, narrate, conceptualize, reproducing temporal modes emptied of their appeal to that other logic, relentlessly fictive, which demands coherent locations, and actors occupying them. There is no stage for them to occupy. Read a reference to a building or street or interior, leaving the avenues to the traffic on them, turning into the interior, which could be anywhere. These events that are simulated transpire everywhere, and they are reproducible, obstinately without reference to any other materiality than their potential to reproduce. The interior is notable for its protection from the boulevards, the market forces in conflict there, the struggle for survival pitched as contention, helplessly abstract. "War is a celebration of markets," etc. Spaces protract in the interior, multiple exact duplicates tempering shine. Glimmer. Shop lights. Where all the time there is no time. One day or another intervenes, one hour to the next undergoes an interruption, soundcast, something happening somewhere. Don't you want to know what it is? But we can't know, and we don't know, and that demands attention, such an experience of equivalence, the edges of times and places blurring, even their sound, their protests, muted by their manifold resemblances, duplicating the removal from which they are viewed. The interior is the language. Books construct this. One book works though other books, assembling the substance heard in passing and that substance, the materiality, is always heard as passing. To make a writing for which there is no place, no boundary markers, no territory to be staked, an endlessly evaporating amalgam of traces for markers that cancel each other simultaneous to their entrance into a circuit of meaning, designating more than themselves, refusing to be reduced, refusing almost to be read. For the eventual reading each text projects, that aspect includes the tactic of the counter-narrative, where there is no history to be rearranged in a progress from thesis to demonstration culminating in the assertion of knowledge and object. Such a projection might invoke the belief that there is an outside. Rather let the combinations spiral nowhere in particular, moving across a temporality of their own making, inured to design, repetition, enforcements. That, also, is a wall. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:25:37 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: My suggestion to the CIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Instead of torturing, humiliating, and murdering Muslim prisoners, we = should institute poetry workshops which teach prisoners how to write = Confessional Poetry. This way we stop terrorism and rebuild their = educational system at the same time. "That's what misery is / Nothing to = have at heart."=20 The only problem I see with this suggestion is ascertaining whether = teaching poetry violates the Geneva Conventions. But you can always make = it a "need-to-know" operation. Bush will sign the order, as long as it's = kept secret. He loves secrets. Even his college grades are blacked out. = "If you knew what I know," he thinks. "There are circles of weapons in = the sun. / The air attends the brightened guns, / As if sounds were = forming / Out of themselves..."=20 -Joel ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:27:45 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: last night... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last night Kevin Norton's vibes sent megatons by way of B-3 into bliss -- Gerald Schwartz ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:29:11 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: let's do... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable snapshots of what we did last night... --Gerald Schwartz ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:32:48 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adeena Karasick Subject: VISION FESTIVAL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey all- i will be reading opening nite @ The Vision Festival next Thursday nite (Thursday, May 25) 8:00 pm @ The Center / 268 Mulberry St. i am collaborating with dancer, Gus Solomons Jr. & bassist, Todd Nicholson. It should be a great nite. Hope to see you there Adeena _____________________________________________________________ for more info: www.visionfestival.org for continual updates on readings / performances / publications: visit www.adeenakarasick.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:50:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: VISION FESTIVAL In-Reply-To: <104.46b2efa4.2ddbb0d0@cs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Adeena: Break a leg. I'll be 2500 miles away, in Tucson, basking in the 105 degree heat. Are you planning on going to Burning Man this year, and can I pick your brain about what to bring? Mark At 11:32 AM 5/18/2004, you wrote: >hey all- >i will be reading opening nite @ The Vision Festival >next Thursday nite (Thursday, May 25) >8:00 pm >@ The Center / 268 Mulberry St. > >i am collaborating with dancer, Gus Solomons Jr. & >bassist, Todd Nicholson. >It should be a great nite. >Hope to see you there >Adeena >_____________________________________________________________ >for more info: www.visionfestival.org >for continual updates on readings / performances / publications: visit >www.adeenakarasick.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:16:35 -0400 Reply-To: Millie Niss Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Millie Niss Subject: Re: My suggestion to the CIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like your suggestion! But why do you think they should write Confessional Poetry? Don't you think they'd be more into ghazals and such like? Or are the poems supposed to be a source of intelligence gathering, for example what I have done below. (This is the worst "poem" I can write). By the way, I am not planning any terrorism at any time! I am inspired by Plathsexton at her worst... (You will see that I dislike the gratuitous sez and violence and exhibitionist suicidality)I expect I shouldn't mail this as it will offend everyone! Aaargh. But I am so sick of 9/11 being a subject only Republicans can allude to and then they do it in religious unfunny solemnity... The Enemy Combattants Confessional Poem Oh America, you Fathercountry of my enemies. How I long to stick my dong into your tall, phallic buildings but, praise Allah, I meant it only metaphorically as airplanes have a sausagelike, penile form akin to that of bullets (and the green and yellow pills I took in my sixth suicide attempt, Curse Dr. Y, that Father-Fuhrer who didn't trim my neurosess like tulips on Park Avenue, decapitated before they can rot and spread their gangrenous grim-reaper's underarm sweat odor), and following this lethal synmetry, they kill the infidel on August 27th at 10:15am in New York, on Centre Street. then, the blood of your people will run down limbs like the menses of a virgin, rich and full of iron. By the way, I hate you so much that it goes full-circle into love much as the hater longs to rape the object of his hatred but in so doing, cruelly puppets the act of heterosexual paternalistic love, lthis mandela-cycle imitates the eternal cycle of the seasons mediated by Hades (that rapist slave-master-sinner who stole stauch Persephone from Demeter, her dear mother.) Therefore, my lovervictimfathermother, here is a list of my co-conspirators here are the passwords to our email accounts the fake passports are buried in the Babylonian -- now looted -- acheological digs along with the weapons of mass destruction which you will never find... nyah nyah na nyah nyah ------ Bush's college grades were published in the New Yorker during the 2000 election season. I recall a C in government. He had mostly C's, and the B's were in things like astronomy which I assume was a git course for nonscience students. What I don't understand is why he was popular and a frat leader, etc. I would have thought that the students at Yale would be intelligent (and liberal at that time!) and thus they wouldn't have anything in common with W. I mean, when I was in college we talked about books & math & computers & writing etc. more than about becoming the leader of the free world, sent by God to democratixze the universe... But then again, I didn't go to Yale. I vistied Yale as a high school student, and the place was so creepy I didn't apply. The interviewer actually asked "With abstruse interests such as yours, do you have any friends?" I knew someone who was half-Japanese who got asked "Do you date Japanese girls or American girls?" in HIS Yale interview, so I assume that asking rude questions was policy, not the quirks of a few bad apples... Millie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Weishaus" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:25 PM Subject: My suggestion to the CIA Instead of torturing, humiliating, and murdering Muslim prisoners, we should institute poetry workshops which teach prisoners how to write Confessional Poetry. This way we stop terrorism and rebuild their educational system at the same time. "That's what misery is / Nothing to have at heart." The only problem I see with this suggestion is ascertaining whether teaching poetry violates the Geneva Conventions. But you can always make it a "need-to-know" operation. Bush will sign the order, as long as it's kept secret. He loves secrets. Even his college grades are blacked out. "If you knew what I know," he thinks. "There are circles of weapons in the sun. / The air attends the brightened guns, / As if sounds were forming / Out of themselves..." -Joel ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:22:22 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joseph Bradshaw Subject: David Abel * East Coast readings/performances Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed David Abel * East Coast readings/performances 5/27 Amherst, Food For Thought Books 5/30 Cambridge, Wordsworth w/ Michael Gizzi 6/6 New York, Bowery Poetry Club w/ Kimberly Lyons and Mitch Highfill Details: Thursday 5/27 evening; call for starting time Food for Thought Books 106 N. Pleasant Street, Amherst 413-253-5432 Free (plus screening of Frozen Sea) Sunday 5/30 5:00 pm Wordsworth 30 Brattle Street, Cambridge with Michael Gizzi Sunday 6/6 6:00 pm Bowery Poetry Club 308 Bowery, New York City $5.00 with Mitch Highfill and Kimberly Lyons (plus screening of Frozen Sea) David Abel is a co-instigator of the Spare Room reading series (www.flim.com/spareroom) in the Brooklyn neighborhood of Portland, Oregon. Recent publications include “A Reading of a Reading of Ashes” (envelope #6) and Threnos (designed and sewn on a thirty-seven-foot ribbon by Katherine Kuehn); earlier publications include chapbooks and artist's books such as Conduit (Modular Unit Design, Seoul, Korea), Cut (Situations, NYC), and Rose (Salient Seedling Press, Albuquerque). “Embargo” is forthcoming in the next issue of Slope (www.slope.org), devoted to responses to the Treasury Department’s proposed interdiction on the editing of manuscripts from Iran. Other recent Portland manifestations include the installation/performance “Permanent Red” (with percussionist Tim DuRoche) at the Modern Zoo; a four-hour version of “Chutes and Ladders: A Word Event for mARK oWENs and Jackson Mac Low” at Pacific Switchboard’s Fluxus Seminar; and the premiere of Frozen Sea at the Collaborative Poetics Festival. _________________________________________________________________ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:25:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Paolo Javier Subject: new book--'the time at the end of this writing' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit the time at the end of this writing Paolo Javier Ahadada Books, 2004 "Paolo Javier's confident, emotionally variable poems work at a point where sensory information runs into the artistic reality of building and negotiating surfaces. But instead of giving in to one force or the other they inhabit the mess that collision makes, insisting that art and life remain tangled up. "I don't want to be another story, you know?" one asks, knowing story is part of the deal of moving through time at all. These are perceptive poems; that there is pleasure despite it all in never knowing what might happen next is no small part of what they know." - Anselm Berrigan, author of 'Zero Star Hotel' (Edge Books) "One of Paolo Javier’s poems is four words: “the words/the spaces”. In The Time At The End Of This Writing, the words are ahead of the time they’re in at present—throughout. Paolo Javier makes words be beside images or beside spaces—equality and separation of space and image and word that’s a 3D sculpture wherein the courting lover always in bed and out in NYC flies up to his intended and appears to be Paolo Javier (translated as say Berrigan). By the end of the writing, that person is apparently someone over fifty with some other given life in place (whereas Paolo Javier is young, in his twenties), the someone over fifty not a character or “voice” as ventriloquism but ventriloquism of space and words that undo and at once heighten the previous spaces new like pressing the lips to the page." - Leslie Scalapino, author of 'Zither & Autobiography’ (Wesleyan University Press) "Hip, sexy, energetic, Paolo Javier gives mad respect to his artistic and poetic predecessors in 'The Time At The End Of This Writing'. His voice is clear and tender, these poems controlled in disruptions of narrative, never falling into obscure terrain. They are skillfully crafted and tight, a pleasure to roll off the tongue and view on the page. This Original Brown Boy has given us a lovely and fierce collection of poems that dismantle how ethnic writers in North America are expected to write. It's about time." - Barbara Jane Reyes, author of 'Gravities of Center' (Arkipelago Books) "Paolo Javier may end his book by "submitting” to Rilke, Neruda and Berrigan. But not with a bowed head. He submits to Poetry's Call and deservedly ascends the crowded shelves with his first book equal to those whose works he imbibed, but then alchemized into his history as a poet. His history as the "Original Brown Boy" Poet. By forming original poems, Javier subverts the colonialism that imposed a language upon his ancestors. He does so by finding the gold not previously found by other poets whose first language is English. Piquant, passionate, perky, panting, "pointy" Paolo-poems result from Javier's refusal to "lament the decisions that made me." In no uncertain English terms, Paolo dares, "Fuck me." Which is to say, Fuck lineage -- dismissively as well as lovingly." - Eileen Tabios, author of 'Reproductions From An Empty Flagpole’ (Marsh Hawk) the time at the end of this writing Paolo Javier 96 Pages ISBN 0-9732233-1-6 Paperback / 5.75” x 7.75” Retail Price $12.95 (USD)/ $17.95 (CDN) Ordering Information: http://www.ahadadabooks.com/ finely designed and crafted books in limited editions... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:28:32 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Hadbawnik Subject: Re: My suggestion to the CIA In-Reply-To: <026101c43d0c$a3943ec0$2cf0ec04@MILLIE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit millie i think this is a GREAT poem; it reminds me of one a kent johnson's miseries of poetry. maybe we should all do our "worst." "How I long to stick my dong"... and it only gets better from there. somebody should bring this to the attention of michael moore. http://www.salon.com/ent/wire/2004/05/17/moore/ind ex.html best, DH -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Millie Niss Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:17 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: My suggestion to the CIA I like your suggestion! But why do you think they should write Confessional Poetry? Don't you think they'd be more into ghazals and such like? Or are the poems supposed to be a source of intelligence gathering, for example what I have done below. (This is the worst "poem" I can write). By the way, I am not planning any terrorism at any time! I am inspired by Plathsexton at her worst... (You will see that I dislike the gratuitous sez and violence and exhibitionist suicidality)I expect I shouldn't mail this as it will offend everyone! Aaargh. But I am so sick of 9/11 being a subject only Republicans can allude to and then they do it in religious unfunny solemnity... The Enemy Combattants Confessional Poem Oh America, you Fathercountry of my enemies. How I long to stick my dong into your tall, phallic buildings but, praise Allah, I meant it only metaphorically as airplanes have a sausagelike, penile form akin to that of bullets (and the green and yellow pills I took in my sixth suicide attempt, Curse Dr. Y, that Father-Fuhrer who didn't trim my neurosess like tulips on Park Avenue, decapitated before they can rot and spread their gangrenous grim-reaper's underarm sweat odor), and following this lethal synmetry, they kill the infidel on August 27th at 10:15am in New York, on Centre Street. then, the blood of your people will run down limbs like the menses of a virgin, rich and full of iron. By the way, I hate you so much that it goes full-circle into love much as the hater longs to rape the object of his hatred but in so doing, cruelly puppets the act of heterosexual paternalistic love, lthis mandela-cycle imitates the eternal cycle of the seasons mediated by Hades (that rapist slave-master-sinner who stole stauch Persephone from Demeter, her dear mother.) Therefore, my lovervictimfathermother, here is a list of my co-conspirators here are the passwords to our email accounts the fake passports are buried in the Babylonian -- now looted -- acheological digs along with the weapons of mass destruction which you will never find... nyah nyah na nyah nyah ------ Bush's college grades were published in the New Yorker during the 2000 election season. I recall a C in government. He had mostly C's, and the B's were in things like astronomy which I assume was a git course for nonscience students. What I don't understand is why he was popular and a frat leader, etc. I would have thought that the students at Yale would be intelligent (and liberal at that time!) and thus they wouldn't have anything in common with W. I mean, when I was in college we talked about books & math & computers & writing etc. more than about becoming the leader of the free world, sent by God to democratixze the universe... But then again, I didn't go to Yale. I vistied Yale as a high school student, and the place was so creepy I didn't apply. The interviewer actually asked "With abstruse interests such as yours, do you have any friends?" I knew someone who was half-Japanese who got asked "Do you date Japanese girls or American girls?" in HIS Yale interview, so I assume that asking rude questions was policy, not the quirks of a few bad apples... Millie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Weishaus" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:25 PM Subject: My suggestion to the CIA Instead of torturing, humiliating, and murdering Muslim prisoners, we should institute poetry workshops which teach prisoners how to write Confessional Poetry. This way we stop terrorism and rebuild their educational system at the same time. "That's what misery is / Nothing to have at heart." The only problem I see with this suggestion is ascertaining whether teaching poetry violates the Geneva Conventions. But you can always make it a "need-to-know" operation. Bush will sign the order, as long as it's kept secret. He loves secrets. Even his college grades are blacked out. "If you knew what I know," he thinks. "There are circles of weapons in the sun. / The air attends the brightened guns, / As if sounds were forming / Out of themselves..." -Joel ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:38:32 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Salerno Subject: Willis/Gizzi Contact Info In-Reply-To: <000a01c43d05$d0d0eb60$27c7a918@rochester.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colleagues: I'd appreciate a b/c from anyone with contact info for Liz and Pete. Thank you. Mark Salerno ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:43:08 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Hadbawnik Subject: TWO READINGS: May 21, May 28* In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You are invited to A Reading at David & Diane’s apartment 695 35th Ave. #204 San Francisco 415.221.4272 enjoy your favorite writers in a cozy environment with refreshments and friends... bring some beer, wine, or a snack coming up: 7.30pm Friday, May 21, 2004 a reading by James Meetze and Sarah Rosenthal James Meetze is the author of the chapbook, Serenades (Cy Press, 2003), as well as being one of the eleven poets included in Involuntary Vision: after Akira Kurosawa's Dreams (Avenue B, 2003). He is the publisher of Tougher Disguises Press and writes the blog The Brutal Kittens. He just moved from Oakland to San Francisco. Sarah Rosenthal is the author of three chapbooks: How I Wrote This Story (Margin to Margin, 2001), sitings (a+bend, 2000), and not-chicago (Melodeon, 1998). Her poetry has appeared in hinge: A BOAS Anthology (Crack Press, 2002). Recent work has also appeared or is forthcoming in Xcp (Cross Cultural Poetics), VeRT, and Rooms. Her multimedia piece "skinny minded" was commissioned by the San Francisco Exploratorium for its Second Wednesdays Art Series. Sarah is the recipient of the Primavera Prize and the Leo Litwak Award. *7.30pm Friday, May 28* yes, this is a make-up date for the two poets who were supposed to read with Lisa Jarnot last week... a reading by Brandon Brown and Cynthia Sailers for more details Brandon Brown is a poet and translator from Kansas City, Missouri. He is currently an MFA candidate at San Francisco State University. His poems have appeared. He lives in San Francisco with one chainsmoking maniac. Local heroine Cynthia Sailers is a California native (San Diego, 1974) who now lives in Alameda and co-curates the New Brutalism Reading Series in Oakland. Her work has or will appear in various journals, including Aufgabe, 14 Hills, LitVert.com, pompom, Small Tiger, Barn (v.), and Involuntary Vision: Poems after Kurosawa's Dreams. Directions: Public trans: From downtown San Francisco, take the 38 Geary or the 31 Balboa, and get off at 35th Ave. Driving: drive to 35th and Balboa, park; my building is the big one on the northwest corner of the street. Ring the buzzer for apartment 204. NOTE: the phone will be turned off after 8pm, so don’t be late!!! http://habenichtpress.com/readingseries/directions may2.html FOR MORE DETAILS ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:00:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Halvard Johnson Subject: FW: May 27th & May 29th - Ishle's Book/Birthday Parties MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just in case you missed the news, Ishle Park is the brand-new poet laureate of the Borough of Queens in NYC. Hal "Those who cast the ballots decide nothing. Those who count the ballots decide everything." --Joseph Stalin Halvard Johnson =============== email: halvard@earthlink.net website: http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard -----Original Message----- From: Ishle Park [mailto:ishlepark@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:55 PM To: ishlepark@yahoo.com Subject: May 27th & May 29th - Ishle's Book/Birthday Parties Hello, Hope you’re well and enjoying the sun. Next week I’m turning 27, and I’m also celebrating the release of my first book!!! Please come to one of my book/birthday parties on MAY 27th or May 29th (details below). Bring yourself! Bring a smile! I’ll provide the wine and the bad jokes. Who knows? Maybe you’ll bump into a cute poet and start a spring fling! Anything can happen. It’ll be lovely. Hope to see you soon. best, Ishle ____ * please distribute widely* The Asian American Writers' Workshop presents Ishle Yi Park featuring a reading, Q&A, booksigning and reception in celebration of her new book of poetry & prose The Temperature of this Water (Kaya Press 2004) Thursday, May 27, 2004, 7 PM @ The Asian American Writers' Workshop 16 West 32nd Street, Suite 10A (btwn 5th Avenue & Broadway) New York City $5 suggested donation Join us at the launch for Ishle Yi Park’s new book, The Temperature of This Water (Kaya Press), introduced by Eric Gamalinda. Park’s vision encompasses the lovers, criminals, mothers, and gangsters who live behind the closed doors of New York City immigrant life. Tracing the paths of prisoners meeting girlfriends, Korean comfort women, and .44s shot from rooftops in Brooklyn, Park lays bare the ruined heart of a city still pulsing with light. Co-sponsored by Kaya Press, Columbia’s Center for the Study of Ethnicity and Race, Asian/Pacific/American Studies Program & Institute, NYU, Rutgers Korean Students Association and CAAAV :Organizing Asian Communities. DJ Mas to provide music. For more information, contact the Workshop at 212-494-0061 or visit http://www.aaww.org. Getting to the Workshop... Subway: N, R, Q, W, B, D, F, V trains to 34th St, 6 trains to 33rd St | 1, 2, 3, 9 trains to 34th St __ ...and if you can’t make that, here’s a smaller garden party on May 29th in L.E.S. Ishle Yi Park at The Gathering of the Tribes May 29th, 5-7pm Garden Reading & Reception hosted by Steve Cannon with F. Omar Telan, Taiyo Takeda, & Chinaka Hodge 285 e. third St. nyc 10009 212 674 8262 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:41:59 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: TWO READINGS: May 21, May 28* In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sorry I will have to miss these, David. Keep me on the list. S Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > You are invited to >=20 >=20 > A Reading >=20 > at David & Diane=92s apartment >=20 > 695 35th Ave. #204 >=20 > San Francisco >=20 > 415.221.4272 >=20 > enjoy your favorite writers in a cozy environment > with > refreshments and friends... bring some beer, wine, > or > a snack >=20 > coming up: >=20 > 7.30pm Friday, May 21, 2004 >=20 > a reading by >=20 > James Meetze and Sarah Rosenthal >=20 > James Meetze is the author of the chapbook, > Serenades (Cy Press, 2003), as well as being one > of the eleven poets included in Involuntary > Vision: after Akira Kurosawa's Dreams (Avenue B, > 2003). He is the publisher of Tougher Disguises > Press and writes the blog The Brutal Kittens. He > just moved from Oakland to San Francisco. >=20 > Sarah Rosenthal is the author of three chapbooks: > How I Wrote This Story (Margin to Margin, 2001), > sitings (a+bend, 2000), and not-chicago (Melodeon, > 1998). Her poetry has appeared in hinge: A BOAS > Anthology (Crack Press, 2002). Recent work has > also appeared or is forthcoming in Xcp (Cross > Cultural Poetics), VeRT, and Rooms. Her multimedia > piece "skinny minded" was commissioned by the San > Francisco Exploratorium for its Second Wednesdays > Art Series. Sarah is the recipient of the > Primavera Prize and the Leo Litwak Award. >=20 > *7.30pm Friday, May 28* > yes, this is a make-up date for the two poets who > were supposed to read with Lisa Jarnot last > week... >=20 > a reading by >=20 > Brandon Brown and Cynthia Sailers >=20 > for more details >=20 > Brandon Brown is a poet and translator from Kansas > City, Missouri. He is currently an MFA candidate > at > San Francisco State University. His poems have > appeared. He lives in San Francisco with one > chainsmoking maniac. >=20 > Local heroine Cynthia Sailers is a California > native (San Diego, 1974) who now lives in Alameda > and co-curates the New Brutalism Reading Series in > Oakland. Her work has or > will appear in various journals, including > Aufgabe, 14 Hills, LitVert.com, pompom, Small > Tiger, Barn (v.), and Involuntary Vision: Poems > after > Kurosawa's Dreams. >=20 > Directions: >=20 > Public trans: From downtown San Francisco, take > the 38 > Geary or the 31 Balboa, and get off at 35th Ave. > Driving: drive to 35th and Balboa, park; my > building > is the big one on the northwest corner of the > street. > Ring the buzzer for apartment 204. NOTE: the phone > will be turned off after 8pm, so don=92t be late!!! >=20 > http://habenichtpress.com/readingseries/directions > may2.html > FOR MORE DETAILS ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:00:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: VISION FESTIVAL In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.1.20040518114814.02a2e518@mail.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Apologies. Meant to go b/c. At 11:50 AM 5/18/2004, you wrote: >Adeena: Break a leg. I'll be 2500 miles away, in Tucson, basking in the 105 >degree heat. > >Are you planning on going to Burning Man this year, and can I pick your >brain about what to bring? > >Mark > >At 11:32 AM 5/18/2004, you wrote: >>hey all- >>i will be reading opening nite @ The Vision Festival >>next Thursday nite (Thursday, May 25) >>8:00 pm >>@ The Center / 268 Mulberry St. >> >>i am collaborating with dancer, Gus Solomons Jr. & >>bassist, Todd Nicholson. >>It should be a great nite. >>Hope to see you there >>Adeena >>_____________________________________________________________ >>for more info: www.visionfestival.org >>for continual updates on readings / performances / publications: visit >>www.adeenakarasick.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:07:05 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adeena Karasick Subject: Re: VISION FESTIVAL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark -- it seems that my teaching semester begins BEFORE LABOR DAY this year @#$%^&*!! hence no Burning Man for me !! i will have to live vicariously through you. Indeed wd love to sort out your BM wardrobe Have fun in Tucson a ps check out my Burning Man piece - "This Is Your Final Nitris" on my website [www.adeenakarasick.com]. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:18:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Lipman, Joel A." Subject: Reading at Mano's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THE LAST READING: SELECTED POEMS OF STAR BOWERS Read by Sharon Barnes, Lynne Walker, Rob Walker, Joel Lipman & Star = Bowers at Mano's, 8 PM, Wednesday, May 19, Toledo Ohio. "Nicaraguan Ice Palace #8" both Juan & Miguel are sitting on my couch now one on either side in my Nicaraguan Ice Palace they have brought me trinkets bobbers & caviar from other lands people say: yeah, Juan & Miguel never here when you need 'em to peel a persimmon or keep you company they are wrong Juan & Miguel stay away when it's necessary when they're back i yelp at their beauty ..... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:23:00 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: FW: Billionaires for Bush News Network MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Annette Seidenglanz [mailto:tenthousandfeet@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:19 PM To: Ron Silliman Subject: Billionaires for Bush News Network Ron, Know anyone who goes in for high-toned satire? Annette ======================================== Greetings, Global Billionaires- I'm the chair of the Creative Content Team for the Billionaires' national Web site. Our current major project is the Billionaires News Network (BNN), which is set to start is June. The news service will publish news commentary and satire, as well as regular Op(ulent)-Ed columns on the national site as well as via email. I'm writing to invite all Billionaires world-wide to join the creative team and bring your local perspective to BNN. There are two areas to work on: News Satire: A BNN news pundit scans the national headlines, looking for a story or two of interest to B4B. He or she then writes a short (300 word) introduction putting a Billionaire spin on the story, followed by a link to the actual news story. Each pundit chooses a specific day of the week to scan the headlines, and commit to writing his blurb for that day. This is a once-a-week commitment. Op(ulent)-Ed Columns: The BNN columnists write a medium-length essay (500-1000 words) twice a month. You are encouraged to create a specific Billionaire personality (The Texas Oilman, The Rich Widow) or write in a specific format (ie, Miss Manners, The Ethicist). This is a twice-a-month commitment. I would love to have contributors from all of our chapters. If you are interested in joining the team, or have questions about BNN, drop me a line! Owen Dwight Howse, aka Don Rider owen@billionairesforbush.com P.S. BNN isn't the only project we have in the works. If you have another idea for the Web site, or would like to work on another project, let me know. We're always looking for writers, researchers, web and flash designers, and programmers. _______________________________________________ chaptermembers mailing list chaptermembers@billionairesforbush.com http://billionairesforbush.com/mailman/listinfo/chaptermembers_billionai resforbush.com ________________________________________________________________________ ____ http://billionairesforbush.com/mailman/listinfo/philly-discuss_billionai resforbush.com To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to this Discussion list, please write to philly-discuss-request@billionairesforbush.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject line. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:31:24 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: The Tower of Distinct Irreality Comments: To: WRYTING-L Disciplines , randomART@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Tower of Distinct Irreality [dispatch@thots.aplenty] hear alone alone only hear only hear what you want hear no one only why hear when no one hears no hearing would be OK hear nothing and want everything here and now now hear the past as well hear the yet to be hear what you may may hear one way near how would no one be hearing here to be and have hear all of it at once rage hear fight hear bereave hear towering ears of hearing now one hears more than the other hear how no one hears anything or think hearing is truth hear ever again recalibrate text_TOWER http://www.cla.umn.edu/joglars/text_TOWER/index.php ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:55:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: My suggestion to the CIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit poem sucks don't encourage such triteness ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:53:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: before the onslaught MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII before the onslaught http://www.asondheim.org/1491.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/1492.gif clean but the suture shows < one side or the other < _ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 01:13:26 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Desperate Americans Taking Thousands Of Iraqi Jobs Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press (http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/) Desperate Americans Taking Thousands Of Iraqi Jobs: Penniless Americans Emigrate To Iraq In Search Of Work: New Private Industry Economic Draftees Swarm All Over Besieged Country: Iraqis Fear Strain on Social Services; Destruction Of The Fabric Of Iraqi Life by Hackie Spin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 02:10:43 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a-z .... key .... play .... sound .... nite... pinkt drei....full weight...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 02:12:26 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no hits no runs no errors a-z... perfect 3...fuckin' a....drn... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:47:30 +0900 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ben Basan Subject: Luminations running Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit After a two month hiatus, Luminations is back.. and still answering Kent Johnson's Quiz on Architectural Poetics. http://luminations.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 02:41:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Jerrold Shiroma [ duration press ]" Subject: web-hosting offer--update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alright folks, After thinking about it, here's an updated version of the web-hosting offer I made last month... In an effort to raise some much needed money for upcoming publishing projects, I'm offering a special deal for web-hosting at durationpress.com. This package includes 10MB of disk space & ftp access, & the URL will have durationpress.com/ as a prefix (there is no domain hosting for this offer). What I've decided to do is offer this for a one-time setup fee of $25. All signups must be made by the end of this month, & payments must be received in a reasonable amount of time (don't want to get burned here). If needed, I might be persuaded to throw together a template or two for those needing help with design. All questions can be made backchannel to jshiroma@durationpress.com _______________________ Jerrold Shiroma duration press www.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:05:00 -0400 Reply-To: editor@pavementsaw.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baratier Organization: Pavement Saw Press Subject: Works in Egress, 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Works in Egress, 3 the scales completely reversed create imbalance but ah the way steve blew the poem ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:46:02 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brenda Coultas Subject: Joe Elliot and Renee Gladman, Friday, May 21, at 7 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Center Broadside Reading Series presents: JOE ELLIOT & RENEE GLADMAN introduced by Marcella Durand at the Center for Book Arts next Friday, May 21, at 7 pm Limited-edition, letterpress-printed broadsides of each poet's work will be available for sale at the reading. Gustatory delights such as crackers, grapes, cheese and wine will be available as well, along with opportunities to admire cool letterpress equipment and book art. CBA members free; Non-members $5 suggested donation, good towards broadside purchase. 28 W. 27th St. (between Broadway & 6th Ave.), 3rd Fl. New York City (212) 481-0295 www.centerforbookarts.org Hope to see you there! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:31:03 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: Elvin Jones 1927-2004 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/19/obituaries/19JONE.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:32:18 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: weaving Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" hey all, you can bid on ebay on my shawl, flower sunset, that i wove for a domestic homicide prevention fundraiser in honor of the memory of sheila wellstone, who was killed in the plane crash with her husband paul wellstone. go to http://www.sheilashawl.umn.edu/shawls-Ebay-02.html and scroll down until you see flower sunset. -- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:16:04 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michel Delville Subject: Separating Bush from the Real Issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry but this kind of sloppy thinking makes me cringe =85 May I remind you that the Welfare State is also financed by taxes and different kinds of compulsory social security systems? At a time when privatization of former common goods is becoming a strong global trend, I wonder who would trade the European system for America's=20 Also, wouldn't it be fair to reproduce Romano Prodi's full statement before accusing him of despising Europe's muslim populations? Here it is: "A new Europe built on the fundamental values that have fashioned it in the course of its history, which also have their roots in the Christian tradition, offers benefits for everyone, whatever their philosophical or spiritual tradition. As we lay the foundations of a new, enlarged European Union it would not be right to marginalise the religions and movements that have contributed, and are still contributing, so much to the culture and humanism that Europe is rightly so proud of. That does not mean failing to recognise or denigrating the need for a secular state and a secular Europe. It simply means taking account of Europe's roots, which lie in religious and spiritual movements as well as in humanism, the enlightenment and the Greek and Roman heritage. Recognising these roots does not signal rejection or exclusion of others. Europe's true strength has always lain in mingling and coalescing different influences and cultures. How can we put Christianity, Judaism and Islam in separate boxes in a Europe that proclaims its pluralism and tolerance? The separation of the public and religious spheres does not mean denying or ignoring religions and their many believers. I believe that an open, healthy debate between the Community institutions and religious confessions is now both possible and necessary. In fact the Commission's White Paper on European governance mentions the need for the participation of religious groups and consultations with them." < Europe and the US are part of the same world-wide exploitive system. Who do Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: SHAMANIC WARRIORS ANTHOLOGY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SHAMANICWARRIORS NOW POETS an anthology of poetry, stories, essays, paintings, photographs, = collages & drawings edited by J. N. Reilly & Ira Cohen with contributions by Lawrence Ferlinghetti Michael McClure David Meltzer Jack Hirschman Terry Riley Jon Hassell Diane Di Prima Daniel Abdal-Hayy Moore Simon Vinkenoog Judith Malina Hanon Reznikov Robert La Vigne Paul Grillo Hans Plomp John Brandi Charles Henri Ford Janine Pommy Vega Hakim Bey Allan Graubard Agneta Falk Jordan Zinovich David Levi Strauss Howard Schwartz Michael Castro Rupert M. Loydell Michael Rothenberg Charles Plymell Andy Clausen John Power Joanne Kyger Lany Sawyer Aidan Andrew Dun Jay Ram say Florian Vetsch Roselle Angwin Dee Rimbaud Renee Gregorio John Brewster Will Alexander Henry Reilly Randy Roark Louise Landes Levi Ronnie Burk Mohamed Choukri Nina Zivancevic Ian MacFadyen Roberto Valenza John Reilly Kazuko Shiraishi Axel Monte Rodrigo Rey Rosa Jane Falk Allen Hibbard J. J. Blickstein Raphael Aladdin Cohen JUrgen Ploog Gordon Campbell Stefan Hyner Tracy Splinter Patti Smith Mati Klarwein Marty Matz Vali Myers Philip Whalen Gregory Corso Julian Beck Angus MacLise Joseph Beuys William S. Burroughs Brion Gysin Paul Bowles Arthur Rimbaud Ira Cohen J. N. Reilly=20 THE FIRST ESSENTIAL ANTHOLOGY OF THE 21ST CENTURY IF YOU W ANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING! Binding: Hardcover. Pages: 408 pages. 37 illustrations: 23 colour & 14 black & white. Book size: 269 mm X 193 mm ( 10 1/2 X 7 1/2 in. ) . 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Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:44:39 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Hilton Obenzinger Subject: Running Through Fire Performance In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20040519171604.00754488@pop3.mailbc.ulg.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed DRAMATIC PERFORMANCE Sponsored by Stanford Continuing Studies Supported by Undergraduate Research Programs Running Through Fire: How I Survived the Holocaust by Zosia Goldberg as Told to Hilton Obenzinger with Kay Kostopoulos and Audrey Dundee Hannah of the Stanford Drama Department Thursday, May 20th 7:30PM Cubberley Auditorium FREE From the Introduction by Paul Auster: I thought fast. I was lucky and got an idea. These two short sentences come toward the end of Zosia Goldbergs remarkable account of how she managed to live through the nightmare years of the Second World War, and they encapsulate the spirit of the entire story she tells us. Like a female Odysseus, this beautiful and resourceful young woman needed more than simple courage to overcome the dangers that surrounded her. Survival demanded cunning, quick thinking under pressure, a ferocious will to adapt to the most frightening and intolerable conditions, and sheer dumb luck.... RUNNING THROUGH FIRE is a book filled with unspeakable horrors but it is told without a shred of self-pity. Zosia Goldberg never complains, never bemoans her lot. She battles and endures, and in this raw, unvarnished tale of human suffering, she has given us a manual of hope. From Library Journal: An account of deep personal heroism ... as suspenseful as any novel.... This work shows how a strong, resourceful woman (with a lot of luck) overcame the grisly odds. For more information, contact Mercury House: mercury@mercuryhouse.org www.mercuryhouse.org/goldberg.html 415-626-7874 Dramatic performance of RUNNING THROUGH FIRE THURSDAY, May 20, 2004 7:30 PM FREE STANFORD UNIVERSITY 485 Lasuen Mall, School of Education, Cubberley Auditorium (next to Clock Tower, near Hoover Tower) http://campus-map.stanford.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hilton Obenzinger, PhD. Associate Director for Honors Writing, Undergraduate Research Programs Lecturer, Department of English Stanford University 415 Sweet Hall 650.723.0330 650.724.5400 Fax obenzinger@stanford.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:49:28 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Executive Summary courtesy of Ian Murray MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Executive Summary courtesy of Ian Murray fundament. the Freedom fundament. corrupts Freedom power corrupts absolute and is power freedom. prisons Enlightened enjoy prisons watching enjoy American watching sex. comes freedom pain. ploughshares People which turn work guns people. up If freedom _ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:43:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Tonight: Reading Change Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear Folks, Apologies for the late notice, but we=B9ve encountered a change of plans for tonight=B9s reading. Unfortunately, Julie Patton will not be able to read; in her place will be Corina Copp. Hope to see you there (here)! Wednesday, May 19 Corina Copp and Lila Zemborain Corina Copp is the author of Sometimes Inspired by Marguerite (Open 24 Hour= s Press, 2003), and plays =B3The Night Room=B2 and =B3The FACCOR Sessions;=B2 the latter premiered in 2002 as a staged reading at the Zipper Theater, NYC. Sh= e is a recipient of an Academy of American Poets Prize and a fellowship to th= e Summer Literary Seminars in St. Petersburg, Russia (2002). Recent work has been or is forthcoming in canwehaveourballback?, Pom2, The Poetry Project Newsletter, Boog City, Fence, The Germ, and Magazine Cypress. She is the Program Assistant at the Poetry Project at St. Mark=B9s Church, and lives in Brooklyn. Lila Zemborain is an Argentine poet who has been living in New York since 1985. Her fourth book, Malvas orqu=EDdeas del mar, is forthcoming from Editorial Ts=E9-Ts=E9 in Buenos Aires. She is also the author of the collections Abrete s=E9samo debajo del agua, Usted, and Guardianes del secreto, and the chapbooks Germinar, Ardores, and Pampa. She is the author of the book-length essay Gabriela Mistral: Una mujer sin rostro (Editora Beatriz Viterbo, 2002), the director of Rebel Road, and the editor of Rebel Road: Poems in the Garden. She also curates the KJCC Poetry Series at New York University. [8:00 pm] * The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. * ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:38:12 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: kari edwards Subject: that it being itself In-Reply-To: <001001c43dbe$ff9175a0$d705a5d1@ibmw17kwbratm7> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that it being itself, being itself, being nothing, that becomes more or=20= less, that is transitory, untethered, zero balance possible, through=20 affect, through a possible countless possible, continuing another=20 universe; another universal possible, constituting an inaugural epoch,=20= that is itself transmitting lighter than that, that is a nothing=20 buzzing version, buzzing the same, appearing - disappearing before the=20= hand that name=92s names, name=92s itself, name=92s nothing . . . a=20 reproduction beginning more or less nothing, being maybe, could be=20 transition countless spoken adulation; dante dreaming, pace of paw,=20 human cry, clay that is but again, but again, blood and again, blood to=20= stone. beholding a paw, beholding a plan, beholding a language spelled=20= stencil; untreated. possible countless nothings being a stone,=20 beholding our bodies, beholding our mouth, our broad foreheads, double=20= luck heifers, pang of a hostage, over ripening damage ripping a=20 protagonist, ripping unto itself, each that never existed, each waiting=20= in never waiting for deposits, next to the horizon that is to be itself=20= buying itself a dream, being a life unto itself that never existed,=20 that is a musical, and afterwards, blank circle preceding cognition,=20 preceding; have to die now, brought to you by my mouth, my cunt, my=20 cock, an after thought buttercup, who name records who=92s driving my = arm=20 into my own transfigured heaven, towards a new bloom delusion, a=20 thousand swarming who what that is it, being an invisible caustic=20 implausible, posing a potential double amphibious, another perpetual=20 circle circling in for a landing; bombarder to point and protocol,=20 drunkenness sealed in captivity, darkness sealed in a unrevovling door,=20= revolting in an slow naked long gone clamor, praying resurrection,=20 playing help me, over-n-over, in the small punctured margins, against a=20= punctuated lets start over, call it home, call it a hall ways, half way=20= there, call it that is it being being nothing there ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:08:15 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: Walter Benjamin & Color Comments: To: steph484@pacbell.net Comments: cc: cmurray@UTA.EDU, davidbchirot@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 05/15/04 4:40:46 PM, steph484@pacbell.net writes: > But it=E2=80=99s interesting to me how often (unless I am vastly over-prej= udiced=20 > here) the ways in which the lit crit mind is vastly undereducated when it=20= comes=20 > to the history of the visual arts as a critical vocabulary =E2=80=93 so th= at P and B=20 > on photography historically, at least, get elided out of the reading=20 > experience and critical discussion and of the text. (The opposite phenomen= a =E2=80=93 the=20 > viz people being often oblivious to the literary/poetry world and not able= to=20 > draw on imaginative language and practice as as a shaping influence =E2= =80=93 is just=20 > as prevalent). Good filmmakers are perhaps the heroes here, poly-dexterous= =20 > with image, sound and text, etc. >=20 Dear Stephen, Sorry not to have answered you sooner due to a leg infection. Your point about how the critical mind is unaware of the language of visual=20 arts, and the reverse, is very much to the point. When literary critics talk= =20 about visual poetry they think essentially in terms of moderism concrete poe= try,=20 a touch of Appolinaire, etc. They are not attempt to integrate the huge=20 impact of manifactured images on our consciousness. That is a different proc= ess=20 which requires an understanding of both what image and light are. When are t= hey=20 the same (then containing the potential for chaos and aura) and when are the= y=20 not? My book "The Peripheral Space of Photography" (Green Integer) deals wit= h=20 that issue. Photography has a crucial place in this development; it appears=20= the=20 first mechanical medium of production, but, due to the difficulty of=20 controlling the movement of light, it is not. What is the difference between the photographic image and digital image? Film has a fascinating place in this development. Begun as the medium of=20 "moving image," film had a "countermovement" turning to the static state of=20 photography. Already implicit in German expressionist films like Dr Mabusse=20= (just=20 out in DVD) or Dreyer's "Joan of Arc," this movement began more explicit wit= h=20 Italian neo-realists, Orson Wells, Bresson, etc. I have just written a piece= for=20 Benjamin Hollander's poem "Vigilance," which Beyond Baroque is publishing=20 this year, which deals partly with the above issue. To see the connections, and gaps, between word and image is, I think, how to= =20 come out of the inside-beltway feel a lot of our literary arguments have. Murat=20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:16:30 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Machlin Subject: Futurepoem Book Party - 5/25 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Poetry City & Futurepoem books invite you to a book party to celebrate =20= the publication of: GHOSTS BY ALBERT AYLER, GHOSTS BY ALBERT AYLER Poems by Merry Fortune (selected by Brenda Coultas, Laird Hunt, Anselm Berrigan & Dan Machlin) Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:00 P.M., FREE Teachers & Writers Collaborative 5 Union Square West, 7th Floor (between 14th and 15th Sts.) with readings by Fortune, Lewis Warsh, Kim Lyons, and Peter Bushyaeger & Wine and cheese reception. Directions: 4,5,6,L,N,R to Union Square, F to 14th Street. =93In a madcap grammar handbook about the love that lives inside a = savage world, Merry Fortune holds the keys to the tender ode, the raw =20 confession and the syntactically exhilarating manifesto. Ghosts will surprise you with its sharpness and its joy. Read this book because it's excellently funny and read this book because it's seriously good.=94 =97Lisa Jarnot =93Merry Fortune=92s poems are sort of broken and beautiful and =20 melodic=97-she=92s awkwardly smart. She=92s sort of like Francois = Villon. =20 She=92s kind of a twenty-first century Susie Timmons. The fact that = she=92s =20 doing music (I mean working with musicians) is only more evidence of =20 her greatness. She=92s a cat orchestra. She=92s cartooniness without = even =20 pictures or laughs.=94 =97Eileen Myles =93Merry Fortune=92s poems are sudden & direct, profligate in their =20 engagement with beauty (sordid & sublime), and always inspiring. She =20= writes in the time lapse between the hand and the eye=97 =91the = brainchild =20 crocus of stability=92=97and never slows down.=94 =97Lewis Warsh =93I'm an electric guitarist. Merry Fortune is an electric poet.=94 =97Marc Ribot =93 . . . a microscopic gauntlet of =93imaginary landscapes=94 where the = =20 spiritual and pedestrian share parity in a squirmingly comfortable way =20= at both exhilarating heights and disquieting depths. Created at times =20= are edgy musical messages, just as Ayler=92s strange, simple, = melancholic =20 melodies shared space with his weird impassioned howling and plaintive, =20= overflowing cries. . . . Desire=92s internal struggle opens into a =20 sometimes frantic, sometimes sublime, always abstract abyss called =20 life.=94 =97Steve Dalachinsky Merry Fortune is a poet, musician, and environmentalist of German and =20= Native American descent. She is a former editor of The World, editor of =20= Pagan Place (with Robert Martens), and former coordinator for the =20 Poetry Project Monday night reading series. She has appeared in several =20= anthologies: The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry (Thunder=92s Mouth), = The =20 Portable Boog Reader (Boog Literature), and The Unbearables =93Help =20 Yourself!=94 Anthology (Autonomedia). Her poems, reviews and articles =20= have appeared in The Poetry Project Newsletter; Boog-City; Brooklyn =20 Review; Lungfull!; Fire (UK); High Times; Rattapallax; 6ix; Tamarind; =20= CanWeHaveOurBallBack?; E-News online magazine and G (publications of =20 the NYS Green Party). She is currently working on a compilation of =20 essays, conversations, and profiles featuring dedicated and articulate =20= artists, activists and politicians=97previous interviews include: Penny =20= Arcade, Stanley Aronowitz, Darius James, Mary Jo Long, Wanda Phipps, =20 and Wreckless Eric. She has a collaboration with musicians Don =20 Christensen, Pat Place and Julia Murphy (FAT) on the 3-CD compilation =20= State of the Union (Electronic Music Foundation) produced by Elliott =20 Sharp and is producing a recording titled The Love Dogs of Misfortune =20= featuring musicians Daniel Carter, Don Christensen, Dee Pop, Barry =20 Seroff, Dave Sewelson, Marc Ribot, and Drew Waters. Merry was born in =20= downtown Brooklyn and currently lives and works in New York City. Ghosts by Albert Ayler, Ghosts by Albert Ayler is book #4 in the =20 Futurepoem series, selected by 2002/03 editors Brenda Coultas, Anselm =20= Berrigan, Laird Hunt and Dan Machlin. Previous titles: The Escape, Jo Ann Wasserman http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/=20 BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680027) Under the Sun, Rachel Levitsky http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/=20 BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680019) Some Mantic Daemons, Garrett Kalleberg http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/=20 BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680000) Futurepoem is a brooklyn-based publishing collective that publishes =20 innovative poetry and prose. It is supported in part by the New York =20= State Council from the Arts Literature Program, The Fund for Poetry, =20 The New York Community Trust, subscribers and individual donors. =20 Donations are tax-deductible through our non-profit sponsor Fractured =20= Atlas Productions, Inc. Futurepoem books can be ordered from SPD =20 books, www.spdbooks.org. For more information, go to =20 http://www.futurepoem.com. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:52:45 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Lowther Subject: UNREADABILITY 5.19 5.20 etc Comments: To: ARTNEWS Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the UNREADABILITY themed LANGUAGE HARM show takes place tonight and=20 tomorrow night. both nights starting sharply at 9PM [doors open at 8],=20= the cost is $3 and it's at eyedrum [www.eyedrum.org]. TONIGHT: poetry and multimedia performance with the APG and other guests TOMORROW: performance artist Mark Owens, members of the APG and others=20= + audios, videos and more on the theme of UNREADABILITY. UNREADABILITY PIN UP SHOW -- both the events above offer a wonderful=20 chance to see the pin up show in the halls of 290 MLK jr (the building=20= that houses eyedrum) but you can also see it during galery hours friday=20= and sat [noon-5pm] and at the dance event fri night [21st] or the film=20= video night sat [22d]. here is a list of everyone currently exhibited in the UNREADABILITY Pin=20= Up show. please come down and take a look! Andy Ditzler anonymous Bill Freind Bill Lavender Bob Grumman Caterina Davinio Clare Ultimo David-Baptiste Chirot Derek Beaulieu Derek White Doug Spangle Geof Huth Gyorgy Kostritskii James Sanders Jesse Freeman Jim Leftwich John Byrum John Lowther John M Bennett kari edwards Lisa Radon Margaret Fletcher Mark Owens Mark Prejsnar Michael Basinski mIEKAL aND Nancy Burr Peter Balestrieri Peter Ganick Rachey Daley Randy Prunty REPUGNO Robert Cheatham Roger Ruzow Ross Priddle Sandy Baldwin Scott Helmes Sheila Murphy Steve Dalachinsky Tim DuRoche Tracey Gagn=E9 PERFORATIONS - UNREADABILITY issues coming soon & the UNREADABILITY limited edition box from eyedrum's new imprint THE=20 NAMELESS eyedrum's monthly programming is supported in part by a grant from the=20= city of atlanta bureau of cultural affairs * E Y E D R U M www.eyedrum.org * P E R F O R A T I O N S www.pd.org/topos/perforations.html * A T L A N T A P O E T S G R O U P www.atlantapoetsgroup.net ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:23:51 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: kyber \ commerce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII kyber \ commerce http://www.asondheim.org/kyber.mov 96k of shift _ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:44:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Fw: Rejected posting to POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--__JNP_000_6347.1945.77b0 This message is in MIME format. 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Please resend your message at a later time if you still want it to be posted to the list. ----__JNP_000_6347.1945.77b0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: (qmail 17377 invoked from network); 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 Received: from mailscan2.acsu.buffalo.edu (HELO localhost.localdomain) (128.205.6.134) by listserv.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 Received: (mailscan2 scanner-smtpd 1.39 1.9 1.15); 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 756 invoked from network); 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 Received: from m24.lax.untd.com (64.136.30.87) by smtp2.acsu.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: FPFQJqvG+t1RbHxIweNtOkeTBU6do5NPuGOHz///fLYHVmQrEMTIkg== Received: (from skyplums@juno.com) by m24.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id JVX9JS4Z; Tue, 18 May 2004 19:47:09 PDT To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Cc: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:01:37 -0400 Subject: Re: The Tower of Distinct Irreality Message-ID: <20040516.172046.-70217.3.skyplums@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: skyplums@juno.com all thist uff sucks academics? i'm glad i'm an illiterate ----__JNP_000_6347.1945.77b0-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:42:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Fw: Rejected posting to POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--__JNP_000_38e4.1637.00d8 This message is in MIME format. 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Please resend your message at a later time if you still want it to be posted to the list. ----__JNP_000_38e4.1637.00d8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: (qmail 17378 invoked from network); 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 Received: from mailscan1.acsu.buffalo.edu (HELO localhost.localdomain) (128.205.6.133) by listserv.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 Received: (mailscan1 scanner-smtpd 1.39 1.9 1.15); 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6229 invoked from network); 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 Received: from m24.lax.untd.com (64.136.30.87) by smtp4.acsu.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 19 May 2004 02:48:09 -0000 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: FPFQJqvG+t1RbHxIweNtOkeTBU6do5NPw/GMapB4swsmvB2m2L3pXA== Received: (from skyplums@juno.com) by m24.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id JVX9JS4Q; Tue, 18 May 2004 19:47:09 PDT To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Cc: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:54:26 -0400 Subject: Re: Willis/Gizzi Contact Info Message-ID: <20040516.172046.-70217.0.skyplums@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: skyplums@juno.com p gizzi now ewsides in providence ----__JNP_000_38e4.1637.00d8-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:41:42 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Re: Separating Bush from the Real Issue In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20040519171604.00754488@pop3.mailbc.ulg.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Michel: 1) The European Welfare state was created because after World War II American taxpayers paid for huge standing armies that allowed European states to shift resources from the military to welfare while being defended from the Russians. This continues the US spends many times more on European defence than European states do and this should end why couldn't Europe stop the genocide in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Croatia? The European social system exists because for 500 years Europeans plundered the world and became rich. Mexico, Peru, Brazil, Slavery, European Colonialism in Africa these were not America's doing it was estimated by Edoardo Galeano that 45% of all the wealth in Europe rightfully belongs to Latin Americans. The wealth that made Cambridge, Oxford, The Sorbonne, Bologna, Salamanca, and most European Educational and other institutions, museums, companies began its life in the Americas and Africa, this is not Sloppy thinking, go to Potosi or Mexico or the Congo and tell me it is not so. We Americans have been plundering for a mere 200 years do not try to tell us that you have no role in these injustices because you do the entire developed world is using someone else's money. 2) The fact is that you ignored my main point. Why is it that Muslim populations in Europe are still, 40 years later not integrated and one of the US's leading generals in Iraq is an Arab American? Why is it that an Arab American can run for president (Ralph Nader)and no one attacks him for being foreign? Why is it that a headscarf is a major issue in France? The reason is because what defines a European in most of Europe is what you were born this is more important than what you assent to. 3) Europe does not hold the monopoly on the traditions of Christianity, Judaism, Greece, Rome, the Enlightenment there are millions of American who are opposed to Bush and what he is doing and we will have our chance in November to remove him from office because we have a liberal democratic republic here which is no more flawed than a republic that has Fascists in the Government (Italy), or a Fascist who won 15% of the presidental vote (France, LePen)or many other anomolies. 4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but we do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite of what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with the People. I cringe at being lectured as well we are all culpable we all need to change the way we personally live if we want to change the world. Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Michel Delville > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:16 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Separating Bush from the Real Issue > > > Sorry but this kind of sloppy thinking makes me cringe … May I remind you > that the Welfare State is also financed by taxes and different kinds of > compulsory social security systems? At a time when privatization of former > common goods is becoming a strong global trend, I wonder who would trade > the European system for America's > > Also, wouldn't it be fair to reproduce Romano Prodi's full > statement before > accusing him of despising Europe's muslim populations? Here it is: > > "A new Europe built on the fundamental values that have fashioned > it in the > course of its history, which also have their roots in the Christian > tradition, offers benefits for everyone, whatever their philosophical or > spiritual tradition. > > As we lay the foundations of a new, enlarged European Union it > would not be > right to marginalise the religions and movements that have > contributed, and > are still contributing, so much to the culture and humanism that Europe is > rightly so proud of. > > That does not mean failing to recognise or denigrating the need for a > secular state and a secular Europe. It simply means taking account of > Europe's roots, which lie in religious and spiritual movements as well as > in humanism, the enlightenment and the Greek and Roman heritage. > > Recognising these roots does not signal rejection or exclusion of others. > Europe's true strength has always lain in mingling and coalescing > different > influences and cultures. > > How can we put Christianity, Judaism and Islam in separate boxes in a > Europe that proclaims its pluralism and tolerance? > > The separation of the public and religious spheres does not mean > denying or > ignoring religions and their many believers. > > I believe that an open, healthy debate between the Community institutions > and religious confessions is now both possible and necessary. In fact the > Commission's White Paper on European governance mentions the need for the > participation of religious groups and consultations with them." > > < Europe and the US are part of the same world-wide exploitive system. > Who do > Americans exploit > reason > < we are rich and the rest of the world is poor. Europe has not moral > < superiority the Europeans did not invade Iraq because it was > not in their > < interests to do so it had nothing to do with Morality. > have to admit > and the rest > trade > > of Eastern > the Christian > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:45:04 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brenda Coultas Subject: Coultas & Ellis, May 22, 4pm NY, NY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MAY 22 BRENDA COULTAS and THOMAS SAYERS ELLIS Segue Reading Series @ Bowery Poetry Club Saturdays, 4:00-6:00 308 Bowery, just north of Houston $5 admission goes to support the readers call 212-614-0505 or visit www.segue.org/calendar,=20 http://bowerypoetry.com/midsection.htm ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:09:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Taylor Subject: The Naked Readings This Sunday!!! 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From Port Authority, NYC, DeCamp Bus #33 or #66 to Bloomfield Ave., Montclair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.SpiralBridge.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:46:53 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Newsweek expose follows torture trail to White House MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'v been following the Hersh articles (New Yorker) on line and this may be as damaging. kevin > > > I am including introductory comments by Prof. Mark Jensen, a leader of United for Peace of Pierce County (Seattle, Washington area) and moderator of the Snow-News list. > > [Clearly, events have overtaken the Pentagon. While it issues denials and > prepares to court-martial underlings, there is now abundant evidence that the > responsibility for the universally condemned abuse at Abu Ghraib prison lies > very high up the chain of command -- very likely, all the way up. -- On > Sunday, *Newsweek International* posted an investigation into "The Roots of > Torture" to be printed in its May 24 number. What it all boils down to a > determination on the part of the administration to ignore the Geneva > Conventions, thus taking a giant step back toward the dark ages. -- > > Playing > a key role: White House counsel Alberto Gonzales. In a Jan. 25, 2002 memo to > Bush, Gonzales essentially led the George W. Bush to believe that he could > legally do anything to anyone, under the cover of the war on terrorism. "As > you have said, the war against terrorism is a new kind of war," Gonzales > wrote. "In my judgment, this new paradigm renders obsolete Geneva's strict > limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its > provisions." Colin Powell of the Dept. of State resisted, but succeeded only > minimally in impeding developments. -- > > At this point, things have gone so > far in the development of a secret web of torturers that the U.S. is now > "running a covert charter airline moving CIA prisoners from one secret > facility to another." Covert, because it is considered "impolitic (and too > traceable) to use the U.S. Air Force." -- There seems to be considerable > momentum for deep investigations into these horrors. *Newsweek International* > concludes: "Today there is no telling where the scandal will bottom out." > --Mark] > > http://www.ufppc.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=586&Itemid=2 > > A NEWSWEEK investigation > > THE ROOTS OF TORTURE > By John Barry, Michael Hirsh, and Michael Isikoff > > ** The road to Abu Ghraib began after 9/11, when Washington wrote new rules to > fight a new kind of war. ** > > Newsweek International > May 24, 2004 [posted May 16] > > It's not easy to get a member of Congress to stop talking. Much less a room > full of them. But as a small group of legislators watched the images flash by > in a small, darkened hearing room in the Rayburn Building last week, a > sickened silence descended. There were 1,800 slides and several videos, and > the show went on for three hours. The nightmarish images showed American > soldiers at Abu Ghraib Prison forcing Iraqis to masturbate. American soldiers > sexually assaulting Iraqis with chemical light sticks. American soldiers > laughing over dead Iraqis whose bodies had been abused and mutilated. There > was simply nothing to say. "It was a very subdued walk back to the House > floor," said Rep. Jane Harman, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence > Committee. "People were ashen." > > The White House put up three soldiers for court-martial, saying the pictures > were all the work of a few bad-apple MPs who were poorly supervised. But > evidence was mounting that the furor was only going to grow and probably sink > some prominent careers in the process. Senate Armed Services Committee > chairman John Warner declared the pictures were the worst "military > misconduct" he'd seen in 60 years, and he planned more hearings. Republicans > on Capitol Hill were notably reluctant to back Defense Secretary Donald > Rumsfeld. And NEWSWEEK has learned that U.S. soldiers and CIA operatives > could be accused of war crimes. Among the possible charges: homicide > involving deaths during interrogations. "The photos clearly demonstrate to me > the level of prisoner abuse and mistreatment went far beyond what I expected, > and certainly involved more than six or seven MPs," said GOP Sen. Lindsey > Graham, a former military prosecutor. He added: "It seems to have been > planned." > > Indeed, the single most iconic image to come out of the abuse scandal -- that > of a hooded man standing naked on a box, arms outspread, with wires dangling > from his fingers, toes and penis -- may do a lot to undercut the > administration's case that this was the work of a few criminal MPs. That's > because the practice shown in that photo is an arcane torture method known > only to veterans of the interrogation trade. "Was that something that [an MP] > dreamed up by herself? Think again," says Darius Rejali, an expert on the use > of torture by democracies. "That's a standard torture. It's called 'the > Vietnam.' But it's not common knowledge. Ordinary American soldiers did > this, but someone taught them." > > Who might have taught them? Almost certainly it was their superiors up the > line. > > Rest of article: > http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4989481/ > > > > > To unsubscribe from this Discussion group, send a blank email to: > 107disc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > To join a moderated Coalition-matters Announcements Only group, send a blank email to: > 107ann-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/107disc/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > 107disc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:27:26 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: LA-area: Glendale, CA: Writers & Teachers, Tuesday, May 25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Writers & Teachers Series, Barnes & Noble Glendale Co-curated by Catherine Daly and Margaret Wang, featuring local poetry teachers reading with and introducing their students. This month's reading: Poet and CSUN Professor, Joseph Thomas, with students, Hazel D. Sonanes, Karina Souto, & Brad Torti. Tuesday, May 25th, 7:30pm Barnes & Noble Glendale 245 N. Glendale Blvd. Glendale, CA 91206 All best, Catherine Daly cadaly@pacbell.net "Rocket" is placed with writer friends; he sorta knows how to play with a ball. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:44:59 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: terrie relf Subject: Re: Newsweek expose follows torture trail to White House MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps he'll stand trial for crimes against humanity...We can hope... T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Hehir" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Newsweek expose follows torture trail to White House > I'v been following the Hersh articles (New Yorker) on line and this may be > as damaging. > > kevin > > > > > > I am including introductory comments by Prof. Mark Jensen, a leader of > United for Peace of Pierce County (Seattle, Washington area) and moderator of > the Snow-News list. > > > > [Clearly, events have overtaken the Pentagon. While it issues denials and > > prepares to court-martial underlings, there is now abundant evidence that > the > > responsibility for the universally condemned abuse at Abu Ghraib prison > lies > > very high up the chain of command -- very likely, all the way up. -- On > > Sunday, *Newsweek International* posted an investigation into "The Roots of > > Torture" to be printed in its May 24 number. What it all boils down to a > > determination on the part of the administration to ignore the Geneva > > Conventions, thus taking a giant step back toward the dark ages. -- > > > > Playing > > a key role: White House counsel Alberto Gonzales. In a Jan. 25, 2002 memo > to > > Bush, Gonzales essentially led the George W. Bush to believe that he could > > legally do anything to anyone, under the cover of the war on > terrorism. "As > > you have said, the war against terrorism is a new kind of war," Gonzales > > wrote. "In my judgment, this new paradigm renders obsolete Geneva's strict > > limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of > its > > provisions." Colin Powell of the Dept. of State resisted, but succeeded > only > > minimally in impeding developments. -- > > > > At this point, things have gone so > > far in the development of a secret web of torturers that the U.S. is now > > "running a covert charter airline moving CIA prisoners from one secret > > facility to another." Covert, because it is considered "impolitic (and too > > traceable) to use the U.S. Air Force." -- There seems to be considerable > > momentum for deep investigations into these horrors. *Newsweek > International* > > concludes: "Today there is no telling where the scandal will bottom out." > > --Mark] > > > > http://www.ufppc.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=586&Itemid=2 > > > > A NEWSWEEK investigation > > > > THE ROOTS OF TORTURE > > By John Barry, Michael Hirsh, and Michael Isikoff > > > > ** The road to Abu Ghraib began after 9/11, when Washington wrote new rules > to > > fight a new kind of war. ** > > > > Newsweek International > > May 24, 2004 [posted May 16] > > > > It's not easy to get a member of Congress to stop talking. Much less a > room > > full of them. But as a small group of legislators watched the images flash > by > > in a small, darkened hearing room in the Rayburn Building last week, a > > sickened silence descended. There were 1,800 slides and several videos, > and > > the show went on for three hours. The nightmarish images showed American > > soldiers at Abu Ghraib Prison forcing Iraqis to masturbate. American > soldiers > > sexually assaulting Iraqis with chemical light sticks. American soldiers > > laughing over dead Iraqis whose bodies had been abused and mutilated. > There > > was simply nothing to say. "It was a very subdued walk back to the House > > floor," said Rep. Jane Harman, the ranking Democrat on the House > Intelligence > > Committee. "People were ashen." > > > > The White House put up three soldiers for court-martial, saying the > pictures > > were all the work of a few bad-apple MPs who were poorly supervised. But > > evidence was mounting that the furor was only going to grow and probably > sink > > some prominent careers in the process. Senate Armed Services Committee > > chairman John Warner declared the pictures were the worst "military > > misconduct" he'd seen in 60 years, and he planned more hearings. > Republicans > > on Capitol Hill were notably reluctant to back Defense Secretary Donald > > Rumsfeld. And NEWSWEEK has learned that U.S. soldiers and CIA operatives > > could be accused of war crimes. Among the possible charges: homicide > > involving deaths during interrogations. "The photos clearly demonstrate to > me > > the level of prisoner abuse and mistreatment went far beyond what I > expected, > > and certainly involved more than six or seven MPs," said GOP Sen. Lindsey > > Graham, a former military prosecutor. He added: "It seems to have been > > planned." > > > > Indeed, the single most iconic image to come out of the abuse scandal -- > that > > of a hooded man standing naked on a box, arms outspread, with wires > dangling > > from his fingers, toes and penis -- may do a lot to undercut the > > administration's case that this was the work of a few criminal MPs. That's > > because the practice shown in that photo is an arcane torture method known > > only to veterans of the interrogation trade. "Was that something that [an > MP] > > dreamed up by herself? Think again," says Darius Rejali, an expert on the > use > > of torture by democracies. "That's a standard torture. It's called 'the > > Vietnam.' But it's not common knowledge. Ordinary American soldiers did > > this, but someone taught them." > > > > Who might have taught them? Almost certainly it was their superiors up the > > line. > > > > Rest of article: > > http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4989481/ > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this Discussion group, send a blank email to: > > 107disc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To join a moderated Coalition-matters Announcements Only group, send a > blank email to: > > 107ann-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/107disc/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > 107disc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:13:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William Slaughter Subject: Notice: Mudlark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII New and On View: Mudlark No. 25 (2004) TIME MEANS NOTHING AT ALL by Ruth Daigon Ruth Daigon was founder and editor of POETS ON: for twenty years until it ceased publication. Her poems have been widely published in E mags, print mags, anthologies and collections. Daigon's poetry awards include The Ann Stanford Poetry Prize, 1997 (University of Southern California Anthology, 1997) and the Greensboro Poetry Award (Greensboro Arts Council, 2000). The latest of her seven books, PAYDAY AT THE TRIANGLE (Small Poetry Press, Select Poets Series), is based on the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire in New York City, 1911. It was published in 2001 and one of her many readings was performed in The Lower East Side Tenement Museum in Manhattan, the area where the fire occurred. HANDFULS OF TIME (Small Poetry Press, Select Poets Series), her last book, was published in 2002. Her poetry was published by the State Department in their literary exchange with Thailand and their translation program has just issued the first book of Modern American poets in English and Thai in which she appears. Garrison Keillor featured her poetry on The Writers' Almanac (Minnesota Public Radio). Spread the word. Far and wide, William Slaughter MUDLARK An Electronic Journal of Poetry & Poetics Never in and never out of print... E-mail: mudlark@unf.edu URL: http://www.unf.edu/mudlark ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:27:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: Re: Separating Bush from the Real Issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I might note that Europe is hardly the only place where a headscarf is a major issue -- Just today CNN carrries a story of a final court resoultion to yet another "can we wear headscarves in our chools" fracas right here in the USA -- and no, Nader isn't denounced as a foreigner, but many Arab-Americans have been denounced as foreigners,,,, How many American voters do you really think even know that Nader is of Arabic background? BUT -- it does bother me when the "Christian roots" of both European and American societies are being celebrated as if they were our only roots -- Last I looked, those weren't "Christian Numerals" we were counting on -- and Plato wasn't a Christian was he? and if we know what Aristotle is, we may owe that fact to the Arabic preservation of certain works -- etc <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:57:56 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Re: Separating Bush from the Real Issue In-Reply-To: <200405192327.TAA15094@webmail2.cac.psu.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 20/5/04 9:27 AM, "ALDON L NIELSEN" wrote: > BUT -- it does bother me when the "Christian roots" of both European and > American societies are being celebrated as if they were our only roots -- Last > I looked, those weren't "Christian Numerals" we were counting on -- and Plato > wasn't a Christian was he? and if we know what Aristotle is, we may owe that > fact to the Arabic preservation of certain works -- Yes, this also bothers me considerably. But that depends on the hallucination of the Ancient Orient, now decayed into chaos, which requires the modern civilising values of the West to bring it to its true self -with first the British and now the US as disinterested midwives. I watched an interesting documentary the other night on the French banning of the headscarf. I can't read it as anything as naked racism. Apart from the immediate effect (the expulsion and social isolation of hundreds of Islamic girls, the bleakness of their futures literally without any education - unlike here, there are only three Islamic schools in France) the long term effects are horrendously divisive. As one Islamic spokesman pointed out, public schools in France are the engines of assimilation there, and this decision effectively stymies that process, and it's also galvanising and focusing very many non-practising Muslims who, not unincidentally, have an average unemployment rate of 40 per cent. A French woman intellectual was interviewed saying that the hijab was incompatible with freedom, that its wearing signified that a woman could be abused and was inferior, which I thought a surprisingly simplistic, nay, fundamentalist reading. I thought of a recent case here, where there was a big stink when a girl who played in one of the local league soccer teams was sent off the field by a referee for refusing to take off her headscarf. Her team, and the opposition, refused to play, the match was cancelled, and the referee resigned in the resultant furore. This girl had been happily playing soccer for years without any trouble, which doesn't quite fit the accepted model of repression. Islam is a complex phenomenon, and it's by no means all Taliban, just as Christianity is not all Fundamentalist Baptists. The question is all about how we process and accept difference. Best A Alison Croggon Editor, Masthead http://www.masthead.net.au Home page http://www.alisoncroggon.com Blog http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:45:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: Separating Bush from the Real Issue In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The scarf thing came up during one of the times I was resident in France. It started with four girls and one principal. My crowd was pretty mixed and pretty secular--even the Moslems thought the scarves should be outlawed in the school. Pragmatic outsider, I was the only one to suggest that the principal was a putz and should have just looked the other way. I have no doubt he was racist, and the motivation for backing the ban is on the part of many clearly racist. But there are other issues. The way it's usually expressed by non-racists is that the schools are indeed the engines of assimilation, but into a rigidly secularist society in which religious expression is freely permitted but limited to non-governmental sites. Catholic kids, if they wear a cross, do so out of sight beneath their clothes, otherwise it's taken away, and Jewish kids aren't alowed to wear a skullcap. If the child or parents want more open religious expression in school the kid is sent to a private school. Most private schools in France are religious and have no greater prestige than the public schools, and they all adhere by law to the public school curriculum except in matters of religious instruction. If I remember correctly the teachers in the religious schools undergo the same certification as public school teachers. Many of the religious schools are very low-cost, deriving a large part of their operating expenses from the denomination or from private donations. French secularism was designed as a protection a=gainst the dominance of the catholic church. Many of the great churches of France are in semiruinous condition because, unless they've become state museums (which means no more worship),they get no state money. The cathedral of Saint Denis, where the French kings are buried, is divided in two: the front half is church property and pays its own way, to get into the back half you have to buy a ticket, as in other state museums, which helps allay the costs of maintenance. Whatever the solution to the scarf issue, clearly France could use more Moslem schools. Mark At 04:57 PM 5/19/2004, you wrote: >On 20/5/04 9:27 AM, "ALDON L NIELSEN" wrote: > > > BUT -- it does bother me when the "Christian roots" of both European and > > American societies are being celebrated as if they were our only roots > -- Last > > I looked, those weren't "Christian Numerals" we were counting on -- > and Plato > > wasn't a Christian was he? and if we know what Aristotle is, we may > owe that > > fact to the Arabic preservation of certain works -- > >Yes, this also bothers me considerably. But that depends on the >hallucination of the Ancient Orient, now decayed into chaos, which requires >the modern civilising values of the West to bring it to its true self -with >first the British and now the US as disinterested midwives. > >I watched an interesting documentary the other night on the French banning >of the headscarf. I can't read it as anything as naked racism. Apart from >the immediate effect (the expulsion and social isolation of hundreds of >Islamic girls, the bleakness of their futures literally without any >education - unlike here, there are only three Islamic schools in France) the >long term effects are horrendously divisive. As one Islamic spokesman >pointed out, public schools in France are the engines of assimilation there, >and this decision effectively stymies that process, and it's also >galvanising and focusing very many non-practising Muslims who, not >unincidentally, have an average unemployment rate of 40 per cent. A French >woman intellectual was interviewed saying that the hijab was incompatible >with freedom, that its wearing signified that a woman could be abused and >was inferior, which I thought a surprisingly simplistic, nay, fundamentalist >reading. I thought of a recent case here, where there was a big stink when >a girl who played in one of the local league soccer teams was sent off the >field by a referee for refusing to take off her headscarf. Her team, and >the opposition, refused to play, the match was cancelled, and the referee >resigned in the resultant furore. This girl had been happily playing soccer >for years without any trouble, which doesn't quite fit the accepted model of >repression. Islam is a complex phenomenon, and it's by no means all >Taliban, just as Christianity is not all Fundamentalist Baptists. The >question is all about how we process and accept difference. > >Best > >A > > > >Alison Croggon > >Editor, Masthead >http://www.masthead.net.au > >Home page >http://www.alisoncroggon.com > >Blog >http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 18:42:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Quartermain Subject: Abu Ghraib Torture -- beyond the reach of the law?? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From the Guardian Weekly-May 6-12, 2004, page 6 'Dirty' war for profit evades reach of law Washington diary Julian Borger Julian Borger The pictures of Iraqi prisoners allegedly being tortured by their American guards last week marked a new low point in the sorry story of the occupation, particularly when set alongside the rapidly fading talk of liberation. But just as shocking was the revelation that the interrogation of detainees in Iraq had quietly been privatised. The idea that extracting information from prisoners might be turned into a for-profit operation would have seemed a black joke not long ago - the premise for a Monty Python sketch, perhaps. Now it is clearly no more than the next logical step in the creeping privatisation of conflict. Security firms have an estimated 20,000 employees in Iraq - a huge private army that guards politicians and pipelines and has inevitably been drawn into direct combat in recent months. So, if there were not enough military intelligence and CIA interrogators to get around to the thousands of Iraqis picked up in the security sweeps of hostile areas, hiring free-lance "intelligence specialists" must have seemed a no-brainer for cost-conscious government planners. The initial US military report into the torture of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison makes for unpleasant reading. It is clear that a breakdown in basic norms of humanity occurred amid the filth and overcrowding, and under the neglectful eyes of senior officers such as Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, a reservist who is clearly out of her depth supervising military prisons. Now back home in civilian life, Karpinski still seemed unaware of the enormity of the crimes committed under her watch in Iraq. When the Guardian called her, she was outraged that anyone should have disturbed the peace of a South Carolina Sunday morning on such matters. Her equally irate husband grabbed the phone and shouted: "Don't ever call. You know the rules!" There were few rules in Abu Ghraib - which not long ago was held up by Washington and London as the apotheosis of Saddam Hussein's sadism. US military intelligence cordoned off a cellblock and co-opted young military policemen into softening up the targets of their interrogation. Among the interrogators were employees of a company called CACI International, one of the military and intelligence contractors that has prospered over recent years in northern Virginia, in easy driving distance of the Pentagon and the CIA headquarters in Langley. The contractors are no more than the expression of market forces. The shrinking of the cold-war US military in the 1990s has created an urgent need for hired guns in a post-September 11 world, where the armed forces are as stretched as they have ever been. Meanwhile the downsizing of the army, navy and air force has generated a corresponding supply of ex-military recruits who find that they can make $100,000 a year doing what they used to do for peanuts. CACI's website claims that the firm "has rapidly grown into a world leader in providing timely solutions to the intelligence community". The military investigation by Major General Antonio Taguba reserves some of its harshest criticism for CACI's employees, whom he accused of being among those giving the orders in Abu Ghraib. The investigation also found that there was credible evidence that a contract worker employed as a translator raped a young inmate. Seventeen soldiers and officers have been relieved of their duties, and six low-ranking military police guards face the prospect of a court martial. But there is no set of rules for the contractors. One was detained by military investigators but released later because the military realised that it had no jurisdiction over him. That is a very important part of the problem with private contractors in combat zones such as Iraq. They are not answerable to any law. They cannot be court-martialled under the military code of conduct, and Paul Bremer, the governor of Iraq, specifically excluded them from Iraqi law in a decree issued last June. The mercenaries fall through the cracks. When the employees of another private security contractor, DynCorp, were found to have been running a human trafficking and prostitution racket in Bosnia, they quietly slipped out of the country. They were fired, but so were the whistleblowers who brought their crimes to light. This legal grey zone may well not be entirely accidental, of course. It means that private contractors can be used to do dirty work for the military or the CIA with plausible deniability and relative immunity. In the eyes of military and intelligence chiefs this very attribute makes them an attractive weapon in the "global war on terror", a conflict fought out in the shadows where the normal legal niceties are a hindrance. It is analogous to Guantanamo Bay, another legal loophole that allows Washington to evade the conventional rules of war. The plethora of military contractors also saves the government money, at least in theory. The hired guns can be sent into action in a crisis and dispensed with afterwards. The very real problems with the privatisation of war can be summed up in a few words: Falluja and Abu Ghraib. At the end of March four employees of the security firm Blackwater drove into an ambush in Falluja, Iraq's most dangerous town. Their killing, mutilation and the public display of their remains provoked outrage and triggered a bloody battle that lasted a month. The Blackwater workers had none of the protection or access to intelligence of uniformed soldiers, and yet the US felt equally obliged to avenge their deaths. It was the worst of both worlds. Meanwhile a powerful multi-billion dollar industry has grown up around the US capital with a vested interest in stretching out the conflict. Abu Ghraib is another urgent warning of the costs of turning war into a business. It is too early to say to what extent the role of hired interrogators contributed to the descent into depravity over the past few months of 2003, but it is clear that their murky status will make it harder to administer justice. The Guardian Weekly 6-12 May 2004, page 6 ======================================= "No working man will ever again expect justice, morals or mercy at the hands of a profit-mongering legislature." Bronterre O'Brien, in the Twopenny Dispatch, 10 September 1836. ======================================= Peter Quartermain 846 Keefer Street Vancouver B.C. Canada V6A 1Y7 voice 604 255 8274 fax 604 255 8204 quarterm@interchange.ubc.ca ======================================= ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:26:28 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Haas Bianchi wrote: >4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but >we do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite >of what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact >that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with >the People. I find it odd (sad) how closely such debates hold to various nationalisms, patriotisms, continentisms, civilizationisms, & ceteraisms. Did the internationalism (bourgeois, privileged, and orientalist, yes I know) of modernism really leave the post-it with no alternate legacy than this kind of USA vs. Europe and Demo Republic vs. Constitutional Monarch crap? Some anarcho-libertarian MIT prof - name escapes me - when asked about whether “nationalism” could ever be conceived as good/beneficial/justifiable, suggested that if by “nationalism” it is meant the governments,‘power-elites,’ and paranoid bodies known as states, then NO, nationalism will never be a decent platform for the organization of social realities. As for a decent organization of poetic possibilities. . . The fact that members, even of this list, **appear** to buy into the laughably false concord (as in pleasing sound)of “We the People” and its shadow cabinet, American (and GLOBAL) social reality, is, I think, fucked up. That said, I'm certain that everyone on this list would like to see a more just, equitable world. And I don't think I or most others have any moral upperhand in these sweepstakes. But what of poetics? Local, national, international, continental, translated, hyphenated - millions of unique voices but LIKE IT OR NOT (?), it's a pack of rich old white fuckers that seem to hold court. **As a side note, I’ve been thinking that capitalism, particularly American capitalism, has been GREAT for poetry. There’s just so much good poetry everywhere, once you make a few connections. BOOM! BOOM! ZOWIE! CHA-CHING!! POW!! A kazillion blooming flowers. As every Tom, Dickette, and Silliman knows, there’s more exceptional post-avant poetry than can be meaningfully read or written. I’m not so up on my Afghani, Croat, or Indian poetry of course, but hey I’ve got so much American English moving inside me I’ll be able to retire from the scene at 55. Maybe take up golf or numerology. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:22:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mairead Byrne Subject: Mad Poets Cafe at Warwick Museum of Art Comments: To: j.lo@EARTHLINK.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline MAD POETS CAFE Warwick Museum of Art 3259 Post Road Warwick, Rhode Island Saturday May 22, 7pm Poets Mairead Byrne, Ayelet Amittay, Sue Nacey, Adam Stone. + Open Mike Admission $5 includes drinks & snacks www.maireadbyrne.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 01:17:59 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: ??!!!???????!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!!!!??????????!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Witnesses said yesterday that guests had been firing guns into the air in a traditional sign of celebration before the American helicopter attack in the village of Mukaradeeb, near the town of al-Qaim in western Iraq. Lieutenant Colonel Ziyad al-Jbouri, the deputy police chief for Ramadi, 80 miles west of Baghdad, told AP that the dead included 15 children and 10 women. He said the attack happened at 2:45am yesterday in a desert area near the remote border with Syria." http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1220750,00.html ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:07:44 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michel Delville Subject: Separating Bush from the Real Issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Raymond: What I call sloppy think is precisely the mixture of truths, half-truths and inaccuracies that gets reflected in your message. Nobody on this list would disagree about the North's exploitation of the South - you are preaching to the converted and you know it. And, yes, having taken part in several demonstrations against Berlusconi and fascism (both in Belgium and Italy) in the last few years, I do not consider myself as an anti-american fanatic or a self-righteous European. But why pretend that social security (or, for that matter, state-funded pensions systems) is not matter of political choices and, ultimately, of the kind of society one wishes to live in? You yourself suggest that the money that goes into the military does not go into welfare. European taxpeyrs pay social security taxes which are up to three or four times higher than in the US (with up to 27 percent of the salaries of Dutch workers going for such programs). From the perspective of European and US workers, the question sometimes becomes what you do with your money and not just where it comes from. And the fact that we are aware of the North's exploitation of the South does not dispense from the need to defend the rights of workers in our own countries. I did not ignore your main point but objected to the examples you use to illustrate your point. Where does Prodi state that Europe holds "the monopoly on the traditions of Christianity, Judaism, Greece, Rome, the Enlightenment"? Prodi is a man who is barely on speaking terms with Berlusconi and who has distinguished himself as one of the country's most successful post-war prime ministers (I am also adopting an historical perspective here, as you can see). We don't need more enemies ...=20 Michel Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:41:42 -0500 From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Re: Separating Bush from the Real Issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Michel: 1) The European Welfare state was created because after World War II American taxpayers paid for huge standing armies that allowed European states to shift resources from the military to welfare while being defended from the Russians. This continues the US spends many times more on European defence than European states do and this should end why couldn't Europe stop the genocide in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Croatia? The European social system exists because for 500 years Europeans plundered the world and became rich. Mexico, Peru, Brazil, Slavery, European Colonialism in Africa these were not America's doing it was estimated by Edoardo Galeano that 45% of all the wealth in Europe rightfully belongs to Latin Americans. The wealth that made Cambridge, Oxford, The Sorbonne, Bologna, Salamanca, and most European Educational and other institutions, museums, companies began its life in the Americas and Africa, this is not Sloppy thinking, go to Potosi or Mexico or the Congo and tell me it is not so. We Americans have been plundering for a mere 200 years do not try to tell us that you have no role in these injustices because you do the entire developed world is using someone else's money. 2) The fact is that you ignored my main point. Why is it that Muslim populations in Europe are still, 40 years later not integrated and one of the US's leading generals in Iraq is an Arab American? Why is it that an Arab American can run for president (Ralph Nader)and no one attacks him for being foreign? Why is it that a headscarf is a major issue in France? The reason is because what defines a European in most of Europe is what you were born this is more important than what you assent to. 3) Europe does not hold the monopoly on the traditions of Christianity, Judaism, Greece, Rome, the Enlightenment there are millions of American who are opposed to Bush and what he is doing and we will have our chance in November to remove him from office because we have a liberal democratic republic here which is no more flawed than a republic that has Fascists in the Government (Italy), or a Fascist who won 15% of the presidental vote (France, LePen)or many other anomolies. 4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but we do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite of what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with the People. I cringe at being lectured as well we are all culpable we all need to change the way we personally live if we want to change the world. Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ Sorry but this kind of sloppy thinking makes me cringe =85 May I remind you that the Welfare State is also financed by taxes and different kinds of compulsory social security systems? At a time when privatization of former common goods is becoming a strong global trend, I wonder who would trade the European social security system for America's lack thereof Also, wouldn't it be fair to reproduce Romano Prodi's full statement before accusing him of despising Europe's muslim populations? Here it is: "A new Europe built on the fundamental values that have fashioned it in the course of its history, which also have their roots in the Christian tradition, offers benefits for everyone, whatever their philosophical or spiritual tradition. As we lay the foundations of a new, enlarged European Union it would not be right to marginalise the religions and movements that have contributed, and are still contributing, so much to the culture and humanism that Europe is rightly so proud of. That does not mean failing to recognise or denigrating the need for a secular state and a secular Europe. It simply means taking account of Europe's roots, which lie in religious and spiritual movements as well as in humanism, the enlightenment and the Greek and Roman heritage. Recognising these roots does not signal rejection or exclusion of others. Europe's true strength has always lain in mingling and coalescing different influences and cultures. How can we put Christianity, Judaism and Islam in separate boxes in a Europe that proclaims its pluralism and tolerance? The separation of the public and religious spheres does not mean denying or ignoring religions and their many believers. I believe that an open, healthy debate between the Community institutions and religious confessions is now both possible and necessary. In fact the Commission's White Paper on European governance mentions the need for the participation of religious groups and consultations with them." < Europe and the US are part of the same world-wide exploitive system. Who do From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ah rejected by listserv again & ahgain.. dark 4:00....out to La Guardia...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:39:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Separating Bush from the Real Issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not wanting kids to wear scarves in school does not always mean racism large schism look what all that religion's done for us all anyway thank g-d i'm not an academic ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:34:41 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Separating Bush from the Real Issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you folks should all stop this bsin about the war and all dem rights _________________________ you eat thru me like a love shattered against the wall of an old abbey you eat thru me a haunted stranger a haunting visitor to a village he's never left you eat thru me - an anthology you wake me & bleed me you loveless ship of desires you trap me in your teeth you eat me like smoke eats glass in alleys elvin jones lost his touch me again.........again ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 06:30:53 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 5:12 a.m. over the williamsburg the dollar donut & coffee guy tows his cart behind him & moi with a listserv full of language dragging down my m.p.g workers rise... rose bloom...7:00...da da de jimmie disque....drn.... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:58:23 -0400 Reply-To: az421@freenet.carleton.ca Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: [artelle@hotmail.com: National Capital Letters - Spring 2004] Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, Spring has finally arrived in Ottawa, and so has the Spring 2004 issue of National Capital Letters: Ottawa's Literary Environment (http://capletters.ncf.ca). This issue confirms that literary arts and heritage are alive and well in the capital, with articles on Archibald Lampman's lasting importance for Ottawa poets, and records of contemporary literary activities, from the Slam scene to the celebration of National Poetry Month. We also have tributes to the Tree Reading Series, the winning essays in the Duncan Campbell Scott Non-Fiction Prose Contest, a report on the Ottawa Literary Awards, and much more! National Capital Letters provides a venue for the recognition of Ottawa's rich literary history and for the promotion of the current, vibrant scene. The editors welcome submissions of articles, interviews, book reviews, literary manifestos, and any discourse on writers or literary events related to Ottawa, past and present. You can contact National Capital Letters at capletters@ncf.ca or visit us at http://capletters.ncf.ca. -- poet/editor/pub. ... ed. STANZAS mag & side/lines: a new canadian poetics (Insomniac)...pub., above/ground press ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...8th coll'n - red earth (Black Moss) ...c/o RR#1 Maxville ON K0C 1T0 www.track0.com/rob_mclennan * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:12:27 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rebecca Stoddard Subject: Tonight, SF CA: Poetry and Electronics I, 8pm @LSG Comments: To: gearystpoets@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thursday, May 20 2004 8:00 PM ***************************** mundane media & (not)quiet presents the LSG New Music Series @ LUGGAGE STORE GALLERY 1007 Market St. @ 6th St San Francisco, California USA ***************************** Poetry & Electronics I An open workshop of poets and electronic musicians collaborating in various forms. Co-curated by Bob Boster (mundane media) and Rebecca Stoddard (GearySt. Reading Series). Featuring: Poets - Brent Armendinger Robin Mullery Megan Pruiett Electronic Musicians - Bob Boster Matt Davignon Steve Lansford $5 donation requested Notes on attendance: * normally indoor bike parking available in gallery for people able to get bikes up the stairs * feel free to bring your (quiet) dinner and beverages * contact Bob Boster for pre-show docent session For Gallery info tel: 415.255.5971 email: luggagestore509@hotmail.com For event info: email Bob Boster: boster@pobox.com or Rebecca Stoddard: gearystpoets@yahoo.com for more info visit: http://www.outsound.org/ http://www.luggagestoregallery.org/ http://www.bayimproviser.com/luggagestore --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:58:57 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: charles alexander Subject: query about book collections, French literature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm trying to develop a mailing list of libraries that have strong collections in French literature, and/or French visual arts. This is for the purpose of announcing a book by Chax Press by French writer and artist Pierre Bettencourt. It's a handmade book, letterpress, with color prints, hand bound with handmade paper wrappers -- so I imagine most library buyers will be Special Collections and Rare Book libraries. The surrealist fables in the book are printed in French and English. If you know any such libraries that might like to know about such a book, please backchannel me with the address and contact information. Also, if anyone on this list might be interested in knowing more about such a book, let me know, and I can either send you the PDF of the announcement, or send you a copy of it. Thank you, Charles Alexander ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:53:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: AEC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Does anyone out there happen to have a copy of "CERTAIN BLACKS" by the Art Ensemble of Chicago? I need it for a project -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:32:00 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: Highway Robbery THIS saturday @ The Anthroposophical Society MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this e-mail announcement was originally sent out by Edmund Berrigan: Hello Everyone, Please come to the Anthroposophical Society next Saturday, May 22nd at 8pm to celebrate the release of Highway Robbery #1. The issue includes poems by CA Conrad, Rebecca Heinowitz, Alice Notley, Simon Pettet, Rodrigo Toscano, Jacquie Waters; photos by Greg Fuchs; Dario Villa translated by John Colletti; and an Interview of Kenneth Koch by Anselm Berrigan. Highway Robbery will be available for free at the release party. The readers for the night will be: CA Conrad Rebecca Heinowitz Rodrigo Toscano The Anthroposophical society is located at 138 W. 15th between 6th and 7th ave. Ring the doorbell. Thanks, Eddie ____________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:02:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nate and Jane Dorward Subject: New publication: Onsets Comments: To: smallpressers@yahoogroups.com, lexiconjury@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ONSETS a breviary (synopticon?)=20 of poems 13 lines or under published for the occasion of the=20 Toronto Small-Press Bookfair,=20 Spring 2004 78 pieces by 80 contributors from around the world, in a miniature = (4.25" x 3.5") chapbook publication put together on the spur of the = moment for this year's bookfair in Toronto. Neo-Sapphic fragments, = satirical epigrams, squibs, haiku, jokes, jazz, typestracts, = transl(iter)ations, riddles, a weather report from Iraq, lyrics in all = shapes and sizes. Everything from the deadly serious to the ridiculous. The contributors:=20 Gilbert Adair ... Tony Baker ... derek beaulieu ... Caroline Bergvall = ... Charles Bernstein ... Michael Boughn ... George Bowering ... Daniel = f. Bradley ... Ted Byrne ... Miles Champion ... Kelvin Corcoran ... = Martin Corless-Smith ... Ian Davidson ... Jean Day ... Mark Dickinson = ... Anne Dorward ... Paul Dutton ... Craig Dworkin ... Lori Emerson ... = Allen Fisher ... Benjamin Friedlander ... William Fuller ... Harry = Gilonis ... David Gitin ... Kenneth Goldsmith ... Frederick Goodwin ... = Bill Griffiths ... John Hall ... Alan Halsey ... Ralph Hawkins ... = Randolph Healy ... Anselm Hollo ... William Howe ... Peter Jaeger ... = Elizabeth James ... Pierre Joris ... Trevor Joyce ... Christine Kennedy = ... David Kennedy ... M=E1rton Kopp=E1ny ... Sophie Levy ... Mark = Mendoza ... Jay MillAr ... Drew Milne ... Geraldine Monk ... Ben Murray = ... Peter Larkin ... Ira Lightman ... Steve McCaffery ... Karen Mac = Cormack ... Rob MacKenzie ... Douglas Manson ... Peter Manson ... = Camille Martin ... Peter Middleton ... Peter O'Leary ... Ian Patterson = ... dana lisa petersen ... Richard Price ... Robin Purves ... a. = rawlings ... Peter Riley ... Lisa Robertson ... Nancy Shaw ... Jonathan = Skinner ... Pete Smith ... Geoff Squires ... Brian Kim Stefans ... = Christine Stewart ... Catriona Strang ... Chris Stroffolino ... Scott = Thurston ... Keith Tuma ... Catherine Wagner ... Diane Ward ... Geoff = Ward ... Susan Wheeler ... John Wilkinson ... Trevor Winkfield ... Rita = Wong Prices (postage included): $5 Cdn / $4 US in North America =A33 / 4.50 euros overseas OR the avant-lyric special: order it as a pair with=20 Peter Larkin's What the Surfaces Enclave of Wang Wei (short lyrics worked from the Penguin translation of Wang Wei): $7.50 Cdn / $5.75 US in North America =A34.50 / 7 euros=20 Send cheques to: Nate Dorward, 109 Hounslow Avenue, Willowdale, ON, M2N = 2B1, Canada (email: ndorward@sprint.ca). If you have a colour preference = for Onsets tell me, as they were published in a miscellany of colours: = orange, yellow, cream, green, blue. (Contributors will get their copies within a week.....) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:03:57 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Lowther Subject: UNREADABILITY corrections and updates Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last night was night one of Language Harm's UNREADABILITY show. it went=20= pretty well and may be the largest crowd this poetry event has yet=20 generated. Tonight is the 2nd evening of Lang Harm's UNREADABILITY show. Here is=20= what's in store... Performance art from Mark Owens and Dana Lisa Petersen. A short talk on=20= an unreadable project by Daniel Clay. Possibly a talk on unreadability=20= by me, John Lowther. Unreadable visual poetry work in slideshow format=20= from Nico Vassilakis. Powerpoint unreadable poetry by James Sanders.=20 DVDs from Neil Ira Needleman and Molly Springfield. and more... (&=20 naturally you can still see the pin up show!) Starts at 9 sharp, at eyedrum, and it's $3 (a bargain!) The 43 contributors to the pin up show include: Andy Ditzler anonymous Bill Freind Bill Lavender Bob Grumman Caterina Davinio Clare Ultimo David-Baptiste Chirot Derek Beaulieu Derek White Doug Spangle Geof Huth Gyorgy Kostritskii I Miss a Merry K UH, Inc James Sanders Jesse Freeman Jim Leftwich John Byrum John Lowther John M Bennett kari edwards Lisa Radon Margaret Fletcher Mark Owens Mark Prejsnar Michael Basinski mIEKAL aND Nancy Burr Peter Balestrieri Peter Ganick Rachey Daley Randy Prunty REPUGNO Robert Cheatham Roger Ruzow Rosalie Platt Ross Priddle Sandy Baldwin Scott Helmes Sheila Murphy Steve Dalachinsky Tim DuRoche Tracey Gagn=E9 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:23:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rachel Levitsky Subject: Rachel Levitsky email information MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello all, my email is changed to: rchl63@attglobal.net please add it to your list and delete the old and defunct: = levitsk@attglobal.net i don't want to miss you, rachel "A man who praises himself must have bad neighbors." (proverb) Rachel Levitsky 458 Lincoln Place #4B Brooklyn, NY 11238 to purchase Under the Sun: http://www.pub24X7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/=20 BOOKS:SingleProduct,this.Create(0971680019) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:29:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Palm Berthe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Palm Berthe The eyes of Nikuko speak. Nikuko speaks: Berthe, we are wound and cicatrice. We are the lubricant at the edge of the scab. The scar will remember us. Nikuko speaks: This writing its scar. This writing its memory of its own. I have come to listen and to speak. Nikuko speaks: I have come to speak. Nikuko speaks: I speak. She says: The pain and fury of the world has infected this and every other language. She says: Languages are one language of pain and retribution.:Nikuko speaks: Of the open Palm and its enemies. Of the Lotus and the gathering. Every language seeps with contamination. If you cannot speak I cannot hear. If you do not write I do not read. If you go silent. If the wounding of the world. Nikuko speaks: I will write Les Yeux.:Nikuko speaks: About the angst of time, I reveal. About incoming. Les Yeux de Berthe. The dead or flaccid language. Nikuko speaks: The talk of the wounded is the cry. The whisper is the murmur of the world. Hatreds, there are. Certainly there are repulsions. Of this medium, to flee this medium. In Medea race. ::ayweiou awyeoui ayweiou awyeoui through my The eyes of Nikuko speak. Nikuko speaks: Berthe, we are wound and cicatrice. We are the lubricant at the edge of the scab. The scar will remember us. Nikuko speaks: This writing its scar. This writing its memory of its own. I have come to listen and to speak. Nikuko speaks: I have come to speak. Nikuko speaks: I speak. She says: The pain and fury of the world has infected this and every other language. She says: Languages are one language of pain and retribution. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:29:47 -0400 Reply-To: az421@freenet.carleton.ca Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: Re: Highway Robbery THIS saturday @ The Anthroposophical Society Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT how do those of us who cant get there get this classy magazine? rob (up there north in ottawa > >this e-mail announcement was originally >sent out by Edmund Berrigan: > >Hello Everyone, > >Please come to the Anthroposophical Society next Saturday, May 22nd at >8pm to celebrate the release of Highway Robbery #1. The issue >includes poems by CA Conrad, Rebecca Heinowitz, Alice Notley, Simon Pettet, >Rodrigo Toscano, Jacquie Waters; photos by Greg Fuchs; Dario Villa >translated by John Colletti; and an Interview of Kenneth Koch by Anselm >Berrigan. Highway Robbery will be available for free at the release party. > >The readers for the night will be: > >CA Conrad >Rebecca Heinowitz >Rodrigo Toscano > >The Anthroposophical society is located at 138 W. 15th between 6th and 7th >ave. Ring the doorbell. > >Thanks, > >Eddie > >____________ > > -- poet/editor/pub. ... ed. STANZAS mag & side/lines: a new canadian poetics (Insomniac)...pub., above/ground press ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...8th coll'n - red earth (Black Moss) ...c/o RR#1 Maxville ON K0C 1T0 www.track0.com/rob_mclennan * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:26:05 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: Separating Bush from the Real Issue In-Reply-To: <000801c43dea$13676000$1c290e18@attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >1) The European Welfare state was created because after World War II >American taxpayers paid for huge standing armies that allowed European >states to shift resources from the military to welfare while being defended from the Russians. Oh, yes. And I remember the Yanks always saying, "Oh, why do we have to do this? can't we go home? Let's just stay home and fight the wars that take place on US soil." -- George Bowering Dogs bite me for no reason. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:20:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 5/24-5/26 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =B3follow the woman without shoelaces// this time every morning/ working the pocket theater// I asked to accompany grief because/ nothing has prepared her=B2 --Heather Fuller * Monday, May 24 Talk Series: reg e gaines, =B3If Trane Wuz Here=B2 =B3If Trane Wuz Here=B2 is an interdisciplinary performance piece which incorporates tap, saxophone, and poetry alongside the music of John Coltrane. Featuring Savion Glover, Matana Roberts, and reg e gaines, the piece explores improvisation using Coltrane standards as =B3suggestions.=B2 Afterwards, gaines will moderate a discussion on how Coltrane=B9s music has inspired their focus, discipline, and attention to detail and craft. reg e gaines is the author of 24/7/365, Head Rhyme Lines, and The Original Buckwheat. 2Bblk&write is forthcoming from B.A.G. Lady Press. He has been = a featured performer on MTV=B9s Spoken Word Unplugged and the Fightin=B9 Words Series, and his film credits include Phone Heads, Hush, Please Don=B9t Take M= y Air Jordans, and the poetry documentary Underground Voices. [8:00 pm] Wednesday, May 26 Noel Black & Yedda Morrison Noel Black is the author, most recently, of the chapbooks Hulktrans (Owl Press) and InnerVisions (Blue Press). He is also the publisher of Angry Dog Press, which recently released a box set of 27 small chapbooks called Angry Dog Midget Editions (available at www.angrydogpress.com). He lives in Colorado Springs with his wife and son. Yedda Morrison=B9s books include The Marriage of the Well Built Head (Double Lucy Press, 1998), Shed (A + Bend Press, 2000), and Crop (Kelsey Street Press, 2003). She exhibits her visual work throughout the Bay Area and is currently working on a multimedia project titled Girl Scout Nation. She lives in Oakland, California, and works in San Francisco with low-income, homeless adults, and as a florist. [8:00 pm] * The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:34:10 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adeena Karasick Subject: Vision Festival Errata MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My performance opening nite is TUESDAY, MAY 25 8:00 pm ish ((NOT THURSDAY)) sorry.. hope to still see you, best, Adeena ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:38:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. In-Reply-To: <20040520032628.7520.qmail@web41813.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Haas Bianchi wrote: > > >>4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but >we >do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite >of >what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact >>that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with > >the People. > I brought a Yankee dime back from Buffalo today. Under Roosevelt's chin it says "In God we Trust." Right on the money. Isnt that interesting? -- George Bowering Dogs bite me for no reason. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:38:46 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "D. Ross Priddle" Subject: snail mail for noemata? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII site map, out of the pink, gau, stop the text, for a real eye, this is about everything, lines of language, insign, sand ray, chocolate money, ry, anarmed, diseased opinion, turning the page electronically, sudden bulb, give us a little trance, text meaning something, the lead boat, thematic, this is the info, maybe we're not smart enough, sameness engine, thot you quit, no trance, entered under yer, a text difficult, still product, cex, about aboutness, why do you want to use so much paper? notebook being held, chomping or bumper- riding, we look, how you can go from here to there, the man of density, more now, here we are again, vocode, ink roller, this causes that causes this, drug user interface, hyperconscious, inky lips, just another hand talking, i don't *feel* like a code-poet... maybe i should use my second post... -- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:36:37 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Oh, another Whoops for the books Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Once again, we=B9d like to apologize for some confusion: The Talk Series: reg e gaines =B3If Trane Wuz Here=B2 on Monday, May 24 at 8 pm is only a moderated discussion, and not a performance piece as the previous broadcast suggests. Our mistake! Wanted to clarify. Best, The Poetry Project ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:56:30 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George: Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. -Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bowering" To: Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:38 PM Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. > >Haas Bianchi wrote: > > > > > >>4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but >we > >do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite >of > >what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact > >>that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with > > >the People. > > > I brought a Yankee dime back from Buffalo today. Under Roosevelt's > chin it says "In God we Trust." Right on the money. Isnt that > interesting? > -- > George Bowering > Dogs bite me for no reason. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:00:37 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Deborah Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. In-Reply-To: <002301c43eac$edc934e0$eefdfc83@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *(one Abrahamic version)* The Speech Dubya Dreamed Cut your losses you son of a bitch. This is the sweetest love song you ever did hear (of Betty Crocker kids in hell). In fact it's your land, disintegrating. Soon the Hubble will not see you the same and instead of the stars you'll see the light of democracy shine. Stirring Stirring the cookie dough one day I found an accidental ice pick with which I chipped my heartache 20 ways 'til Tuesday, and then I ate the melting chocolate rich and semi-sweet. It was that moment that the epiphany came like sweet Jesus coming in from the rain- none of you pigs would be here if it weren't for the coupling of Noah. -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel Weishaus Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:57 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. George: Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. -Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bowering" To: Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:38 PM Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. > >Haas Bianchi wrote: > > > > > >>4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but >we > >do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite >of > >what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact > >>that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with > > >the People. > > > I brought a Yankee dime back from Buffalo today. Under Roosevelt's > chin it says "In God we Trust." Right on the money. Isnt that > interesting? > -- > George Bowering > Dogs bite me for no reason. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 18:38:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain but it IS clearly in the singular, and certainly NOT Buddhist, not to mention seemingly a violation of the constitution and Christianity at the same time -- neat trick, eh? (My students are always shocked to learn that I learned of radical separation of church and state positions from my parents' Baptists church -- but they clearly weren't Billy Graham Baptists) On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:56:30 +0000, Joel Weishaus wrote: > George: > > Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." > Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. > As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than > ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came > under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. > > -Joel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Bowering" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:38 PM > Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. > > > > >Haas Bianchi wrote: > > > > > > > > >>4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but >we > > >do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite >of > > >what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact > > >>that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with > > > >the People. > > > > > I brought a Yankee dime back from Buffalo today. Under Roosevelt's > > chin it says "In God we Trust." Right on the money. Isnt that > > interesting? > > -- > > George Bowering > > Dogs bite me for no reason. > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:22:43 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Hadbawnik Organization: Rova Saxophone Quartet Subject: Re: My suggestion to the CIA In-Reply-To: <20040516.172046.-70217.1.skyplums@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gee thanks steve but I'll encourage what I want. DH -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Dalachinsky Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 1:55 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: My suggestion to the CIA poem sucks don't encourage such triteness ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:26:43 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. In-Reply-To: <200405202238.SAA12454@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit "In God We Trust" always had a strange resonance. It made me assume that in those early constitutional days - especially around issues of money - human trust for one one another, as well as trust in a community or national sense, was an unlikely combination and it was best to hand it (trust) over to the possibly better will & trust of this outsider (God). Somehow I don't think God is investing much trust back in our sovereign leader, nor do we the people seem to be either. And I imagine, looking at his poll numbers, George B. must be on the verge of withdrawing his trust in the Almighty's trust, as well. One worries, six gun & Cheney in either hand, what Bush will turn to. One trembles to think, and certainly not trust that outcome. So trust it seems is up for grabs. Be curious to see if Sen. Kerry can wake up and grab and share a little with this occasional trusty Republic. Stephen V > but it IS clearly in the singular, and certainly NOT Buddhist, not to mention > seemingly a violation of the constitution and Christianity at the same time -- > neat trick, eh? > > (My students are always shocked to learn that I learned of radical separation > of > church and state positions from my parents' Baptists church -- but they > clearly > weren't Billy Graham Baptists) > > On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:56:30 +0000, Joel Weishaus wrote: > >> George: >> >> Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." >> Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. >> As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than >> ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came >> under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. >> >> -Joel >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "George Bowering" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:38 PM >> Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. >> >> >>>> Haas Bianchi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> 4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but >we >>>> do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite >of >>>> what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact >>>>> that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with >>>>> the People. >>>> >>> I brought a Yankee dime back from Buffalo today. Under Roosevelt's >>> chin it says "In God we Trust." Right on the money. Isnt that >>> interesting? >>> -- >>> George Bowering >>> Dogs bite me for no reason. >> >> > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." > --Emily Dickinson > > > Aldon L. Nielsen > Kelly Professor of American Literature > The Pennsylvania State University > 116 Burrowes > University Park, PA 16802-6200 > > (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 18:20:53 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit God is never singular. History, and current events, prove this. As for Buddhist, I'm didn't say this, but "Buddha Nature," which like God, is beyond the logos, and beyond numeration. As for money. I once worked three days for Sutro & Co., in San Francisco, and quit during lunch hour, sending them a telegram that I wouldn't be back, that adding columns of monetary figures all day had made me nauseous beyond belief. -Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALDON L NIELSEN" To: Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. > but it IS clearly in the singular, and certainly NOT Buddhist, not to mention > seemingly a violation of the constitution and Christianity at the same time -- > neat trick, eh? > > (My students are always shocked to learn that I learned of radical separation of > church and state positions from my parents' Baptists church -- but they clearly > weren't Billy Graham Baptists) > > On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:56:30 +0000, Joel Weishaus wrote: > > > George: > > > > Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." > > Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. > > As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than > > ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came > > under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. > > > > -Joel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Bowering" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:38 PM > > Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. > > > > > > > >Haas Bianchi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but >we > > > >do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite >of > > > >what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact > > > >>that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with > > > > >the People. > > > > > > > I brought a Yankee dime back from Buffalo today. Under Roosevelt's > > > chin it says "In God we Trust." Right on the money. Isnt that > > > interesting? > > > -- > > > George Bowering > > > Dogs bite me for no reason. > > > > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." > --Emily Dickinson > > > Aldon L. Nielsen > Kelly Professor of American Literature > The Pennsylvania State University > 116 Burrowes > University Park, PA 16802-6200 > > (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:10:41 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. In-Reply-To: <200405202238.SAA12454@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed In the case of George's dime the singular god would appear to be Roosevelt, which he was in my family, altho in those days his head was still attached to his body. Maybe it's something like pharaohs or caesars, except that presidents usually aren't acknowledged as gods until after their deaths, and never, as with the caesars, as salads. Mark At 03:38 PM 5/20/2004, you wrote: >but it IS clearly in the singular, and certainly NOT Buddhist, not to mention >seemingly a violation of the constitution and Christianity at the same time -- >neat trick, eh? > >(My students are always shocked to learn that I learned of radical >separation of >church and state positions from my parents' Baptists church -- but they >clearly >weren't Billy Graham Baptists) > >On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:56:30 +0000, Joel Weishaus wrote: > > > George: > > > > Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." > > Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. > > As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than > > ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came > > under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. > > > > -Joel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Bowering" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:38 PM > > Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. > > > > > > > >Haas Bianchi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>4) Americans believe in open healthy debate but >we > > > >do not define who we are by our Religion, inspite >of > > > >what Mr Bush says, we are defined by the fact > > > >>that the only royal 'we'used here is coupled with > > > > >the People. > > > > > > > I brought a Yankee dime back from Buffalo today. Under Roosevelt's > > > chin it says "In God we Trust." Right on the money. Isnt that > > > interesting? > > > -- > > > George Bowering > > > Dogs bite me for no reason. > > > > > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." > --Emily Dickinson > > >Aldon L. Nielsen >Kelly Professor of American Literature >The Pennsylvania State University >116 Burrowes >University Park, PA 16802-6200 > >(814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:53:27 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. In-Reply-To: <002301c43eac$edc934e0$eefdfc83@oemcomputer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'm sure if you tried to argue that it meant "Allah" there would be objections... It's a reflection of the Protestant equation of thrift and profit with godliness. Though I've always sort of assumed, from my long range watching of US tv and foreign policy, that it means that Money is God. Best A On 21/5/04 6:56 AM, "Joel Weishaus" wrote: > Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." > Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. > As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than > ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came > under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. Alison Croggon Editor, Masthead http://www.masthead.net.au Home page http://www.alisoncroggon.com Blog http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:04:37 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: ** Advertise in Boog City or Die Trying ** Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Boog City's discount ad rate is here to stay. Our June issue is going to press on Tues., June 1, and we are once again offering a 50% discount on our 1/8-page ads, cutting them from $60 to $30. (The discount rate also applies on larger ads.) Advertise your small press's newest publications, your own titles, your band's new album, your label's new releases, or send a hidden message to Lindsay Lohan. Ads must be in by Fri., May 28 (and please reserve space ASAP) (we're also cool with donations, real cool.) Issue will be distributed on Wed. June 2. Email editor@boogcity.com or call 212-842-BOOG(2664) for more information. thanks, David -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcity.blog-city.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:36:29 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: BABYLON MINISTRY OF MISINFORMATION Comments: To: WRYTING-L Disciplines , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, WEbartery@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BABYLON MINISTRY OF MISINFORMATION It has been brought to the attention of the proto-civilians of the region of the Tigris-Euphrates that at the event of the 21st Century AD much of our culture's 5000 plus years of future invention & evolution of civilization will be lost, forgotten, erased, appropriated, burned, americanized, exploited, & trampled on. In 3000 BCE The BABYLON MINISTRY OF MISINFORMATION had the vision to initiate a node to witness & remember the fragments of glyphs, signs, letterforms, ledgers, tablets, proclamations, lyrics & texts which repeated Expansionist-Nations will seek to overthrow. We are seeking the inventive actions of all artists & poets of the future to help remember WhatCouldBe . http://www.spidertangle.net/babili/index.html [I neglected to send this piece thru a few months back. This is the version of an ongoing work which I put together for the &Now CONFERENCE at Notre Dame a few months back ~mIEKAL] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:04:31 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tenney Nathanson Subject: POG RAFFLE May 24: new prizes added! still time to buy yr tickets! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We've added the following new prizes: --a new painting by Tucson artist Cynthia Miller --3 $15 gift certificates from Zia Records --hand-made paper plus a sketchbook from Paper, Paper, Paper for an up to date list check the pog website: www.gopog.org or scroll down below for all other available prizes to buy tickets: email mailto:nathanso@u.arizona.edu or mailto:pog@gopog.org we're up to $940 in ticket sales and pledges; please buy some tickets and help us exceed our goal of $1,000 in ticket sales! Tenney Nathanson for POG ************************************************************ [here's the original message]: BIG POG RAFFLE MAY 24 Dear Friends of POG: We’re now holding our first annual raffle. Tickets are on sale and the big drawing will take place on Monday, May 24 (in the UA English Department, drawing supervised by rafflemeister Stephanie Pearmain). We have collected well over $1,000 in prizes. Tickets are $5 each, or 5 for $20. So you can support POG’s poetry and arts mission while enjoying a good chance to win valuable prizes! To purchase tickets, you can: · email POG president Tenney Nathanson at mailto:nathanso@u.arizona.edu or mailto:pog@gopog.org (we can accommodate long distance orders from those not in Tucson) · phone 615-7803 and leave a message · leave a note in Tenney Nathanson’s box at the UA English Department For an up-to-date list of available prizes, please check the POG website: www.gopog.org. Here’s a list of the prizes already available: POG Raffle Prizes Raffle Drawing on May 24, 2004 Bookman’s Gift Certificates, Where You Can Buy Books, Music, Games, Videos and DVD’s. · 1 $200 gift certificate donated by POG member Elizabeth Landry. · 2 $50 gift certificates donated by a generous POG member. · 3 $20 gift certificates donated by Bookman’s. Buffalo Exchange, Tucson’s Home for New and Recycled Fashion and Home Accessories. ($200 total value) · 1 $15 Gift Certificate · 2 Sets of 2 Candelabras · 2 Hanging Votive Holders · 1 Gift Set with Candle, Japanese Journal, and Hip Plastic Bracelets. · 1 Gift Set with Cool Magnets, Hip Plastic Bracelets, and a Book. Antigone Books, A Tradition in Bookselling on 4th Avenue. · 1 $15 gift certificate Reader’s Oasis, A Great Local Independently Owned Bookstore with New, Used, and Special Order Books. · $20 Gift Certificate Jamba Juice, Your Home for Delicious, Nutritious, Energizing Smoothies and Juices. Each one is filled with refreshing fruit flavor and provides 3-6 servings of fruit to get you on your way to 5-a-day. · 2 $20 Gift Sets with Mug and Coupons for Free Smoothies Macy’s · 1 Fragrance gift basket Kore Press, A Tucson Area Publisher. Kore Press is named for the idea that women are agents of change. This nonprofit press publishes passionate, experimental and often collaborative literature by diverse women whose perspectives don’t often reach the mainstream. · A Selection of Books from Kore Press Chax Press: “Whether working with handset type, Vandercook proof press, carved wood blocks, linen threads and fine papers, or with computers, Chax Press books celebrate the changing shape of American poetry by presenting experimental works with humanist commitment.” · 3 Sets of Selected Books from Chax Press Antennae, a Biannual Journal of Experimental Poetry and Music/Performance edited by Jesse Seldess. · A Set of Issues 3, 4, and 5 of Antennae, a $20 Value · Shelia Murphy, POG Member and Amazing Poet. · 1 Set of Shelia Murphy’s Books Private Yoga Lessons with Yoga Instructor Suzanne Clores. · 1.5 Hour Private Yoga Session, a $45 Value Private Dance Lessons with Dance Instructor Rachel Traywick · 1 Session of Private Dance Lessons Art Therapy Self Investigation Experience. · A 1.5 Hour Session with Clinician, Teacher, and Trainer Millie Chapin Desiree Rios, Renowned Tucson Photographer. · 1 Original Photograph from Photographer Desiree Rios Professional Software Training from GlobalEye Systems. · 1 Hour of Photoshop Training, A $100 Value Kaplan Test Prep and Admissions Training. · 1 Test Prep Book Jessica Thompson, Tucson painter. · 2 paintings (Please note: in order to maximize our fundraising, we are allowing POG members to purchase raffle tickets.) Thanks for participating in the raffle and helping POG! Sincerely, Tenney Nathanson for POG ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:46:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: the unconscious upwelling MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII the unconscious upwelling http://www.asondheim.org/destroyshesaid.mov the unconscious upwelling http://www.asondheim.org/destroyshesaid.mov the unconscious upwelling http://www.asondheim.org/destroyshesaid.mov the unconscious upwelling http://www.asondheim.org/destroyshesaid.mov the unconscious upwelling http://www.asondheim.org/destroyshesaid.mov the unconscious upwelling http://www.asondheim.org/destroyshesaid.mov the unconscious upwelling http://www.asondheim.org/destroyshesaid.mov the unconscious upwelling _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:43:16 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Highway Robbery THIS saturday @ The Anthroposophical Society Comments: To: az421@freenet.carleton.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit edmund i wanna be invited i wanna be in the zine i want i want i want ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:30:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit which god what god in god i digest keep thanks i'll do my publisher who barely picked me up dropped me tonight thank you tuli anyone looking for a non-academic poet to publish w/ a great 160 pg book of poems written over 17 yrs just listening to one guy play music live? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:59:42 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 May 2004, Stephen Vincent wrote: > And I imagine, looking at his poll numbers, George B. must be on the > verge of withdrawing his trust in the Almighty's trust, as well. Bush or Bowering? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:51:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Martha L Deed Subject: Re: separating Bush from the Really Real American America. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I trust this is a poem with an unreliable narrator, but I am concerned it isn't. If this is actual, I will have something to say, starting with "You have plenty of company." It is amazing to me how fragile a book contract can be. And I should add -- for any poetry publishers on this list -- I am not referring to a poetry experience, but to a non-poetry house. Martha On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:30:20 -0400 Steve Dalachinsky writes: > my publisher > who barely > picked > me > up > dropped > me > tonight > > thank you tuli > > anyone looking for a non-academic poet to publish w/ a great 160 pg > book > of poems written over 17 yrs just listening to one guy play music > live? > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:34:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Annie Finch Subject: coin deity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Singular, and masculine. I trust in goddesses. Annie > but it IS clearly in the singular, and certainly NOT Buddhist, not to mention > seemingly a violation of the constitution and Christianity at the >same time -- > neat trick, eh? > >> George: >> >> Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." >> Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. >> As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than >> ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came >> under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. >> >> -Joel >> > -- ___________________________________ Annie Finch http://www.anniefinch.com "The spiritual world is like the natural world-only diversity will save it." -Margot Adler ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:53:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vernon Frazer Subject: Re: non-academic poet seeking publisher (formerly Separating Bush,etc.) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Martha My guess is that Steve is making a factual statement. Steve, if this is a factual statement, who's the musician? Is it by any chance Thomas Chapin or Cooper-Moore? Around 1990, Clark Coolidge wrote The Rova Improvisations, poems based on listening to an 8-CD set of the Rova Saxophone Quartet's recordings? I'd consider trying it myself, except that once I start writing I pretty much shut out everything around me. Vernon http://vernonfrazer.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:12:32 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joseph Thomas Subject: Re: coin deity In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In history we trust? joseph --- Annie Finch wrote: > Singular, and masculine. > > I trust in goddesses. > > Annie > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:46:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Fwd: Rejected posting to POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >>George: >> >>Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We Trust." >>Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. >>As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than >>ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, this came >>under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. >> >>-Joel > >I have an idea. Let's ask the normal USAmerican we encounter at a >restaurant or ballgame, what they take "God" to mean in this case. >-- >George Bowering >Dogs bite me for no reason. -- George Bowering Dogs bite me for no reason. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:18:36 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Schlesinger Subject: News from Cuneiform: Creeley, Levy, & more! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cuneiform Press is pleased to announce the publication of two new = titles: Scratch Space is Andrew Levy's latest chapbook. Bound in a blue Fabriano = dustjacket printed letterpress and stamped by hand in an edition of 100. = "Down with Tyrants, especially those named George . . ." Place To Be, by Robert Creeley was produced in an edition of 300 in = celebration of a reception for the poet, and Just Buffalo's founder, = Debora Ott. Handset in Cochin by Kyle Schlesinger and printed at = Paradise Press. Featuring a spooky photograph of Buffalo's old train = station by Greg Halpern. Signed and produced in an edition of 300. "What = you do is how you get along. / What you did is all it ever means." FORTHCOMING . . . And what could be more perfect than that? We're going perfect! That's = right!=20 In addition to chapbooks & artists books, Cuneiform will now be printing = trade editions, beginning with Alan Loney's Meditatio : the printer = printed : manifesto & Craig Dworkin's Dure -both due out this June!=20 Later this summer, Gil Ott's The Amputated Toe will be available in a = limited edition, printed and bound by hand, along with Robert Creeley's = "Oh, do you remember . . .", an illustrated broadside.=20 Also,=20 Copies of the 2004 edition of Kiosk will be available at the end of this = month, featuring the works of Tyrone Williams, Jules Boykoff, Lytle = Shaw, Tan Lin, Peter Quartermain, Tenney Nathanson, Nancy Kuhl, Barbara = Cole and Pattie McCarthy, Tim Shaner, Rodrigo Toscano, Gregg Biglieri, = Charles Valle, Nick Lawrence, Lori Emerson and Jane Sprague. Secure your = copy today by sending $4.00 to Cuneiform or Kiosk. Best as ever, Kyle http://www.cuneiformpress.com/ Still Available: Ron Silliman's Woundwood, Derek Beaulieu's With Wax, & = Gregg Biglieri's Reading Keats to Sleep. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:20:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: alexander saliby Subject: Re: Rejected posting to POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George, I attend baseball games; I eat hotdogs; I pay with U.S. cash for both, = the tickets and the food. I read only one thing printed on the cash, = the denomination. I trust no one when it comes to getting the correct = change back at the ballpark.=20 And, while I don't care that the message "IN GOD WE TRUST" appears on = the coin of the realm, I'm curious to know why the trust message appears = only on the back of the bill or coin. =20 But in truth folks, remember this, the Secretary of the Treasury makes = the design decisions and she or he does so without either approval of = nor input from either Congressional House. =20 The message appears on the money because the first Secretary of the = Treasury approved a design that had put it there. Hell, as far as I = know, the initial designer may have been a sarcastic atheist sticking = his/her finger in the eye of the citizenry, or better yet, the designer = may have been a Satan worshiper and may have been making reverent = reference to his personal deity. =20 To the best of my knowledge, there is no law enacted by the Congress = dictating that the message be printed on the money. However, I doubt = seriously any congressperson has the spirit it would require to sponsor = a bill in either house demanding that the message be deleted. =20 Even dogs have their reasons for doing things...we just don't speak = spaniel, so we don't understand those reasons. =20 Alex ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Bowering=20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:46 AM Subject: Fwd: Rejected posting to = POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >>George: >> >>Except that it doesn't say which god. It doesn't say, "In Jesus We = Trust." >>Or any of the other Abrahamic versions. >>As I read it, it means to say that we trust in something larger than >>ourselves, than our understanding, than our wealth. At that time, = this came >>under the rubric of "God." Now it may be Buddha Nature. >> >>-Joel > >I have an idea. Let's ask the normal USAmerican we encounter at a >restaurant or ballgame, what they take "God" to mean in this case. >-- >George Bowering >Dogs bite me for no reason. -- George Bowering Dogs bite me for no reason. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:36:12 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Cambridge, MA/Sean Cole & David Kirschenbaum Sat. In-Reply-To: <001101c43f57$a71a2670$15b61743@administpii39e> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tomorrow, Saturday May 22, at 5:00 p.m. Sean Cole and me, David Kirschenbaum read in Jim Behrle's WordsWorth Books Double Wide Where It's At Poetry Series We'll be reading, in its entirety, The October Project, a month-long daily postcard correspondence (copies of my postcards will be available as a chapbook, and for $4ppd for mail order) Wordsworth Books is located in Harvard Square at 30 Brattle St., Cambridge, Mass. http://www.wordsworth.com -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 www.boogcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:13:51 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Next Week! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FUSIONARTS MUSEUM & STEVE SWELL (for more info: www.home.earthlink.net/~sdswell/ present 3rd Monthly=20 MUSIC IN THE AFTERNOON SATURDAY, MAY 29 3PM--ANDREW DRURY GROUP Taylor Ho Bynum, Adam Lane 4PM--RAS MOSHES' MUSIC NOW! Todd Nicholson, Matt Heyner, Jackson Krall 5PM--MATT LAVELLE'S NEMESIS William Parker, Roy Campbell, Flip Barnes, Mike Thompson, Raphe Malik SUNDAY, APRIL 30 3PM--SABIR MATEEN TRIO Alan Silva, Jackson Krall 4PM--BLUE COLLAR Nate Wooley, Tatsuya Nakatani, Steve Swell 5PM--EARTH PEOPLE Sabir Mateen, Andre Martinez, Doug Principato, Mark Hennen WITH POETRY BY GERALD SCHWARTZ AND STEVE DALACHINSKY ALSO, FREE RAFFLE FOR ANYONE WHO GUESSES THE DATE THAT THE=20 BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES THE CAPTURE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION--THE WINNER WILL RECEIVE A CD OF ONE OF THE BANDS WHO HAVE PERFORMED AT THE FUSIONARTS GALLERY @ FUSIONARTS MUSEUM--57 STANTON ST. (between forsyth and eldridge, 1 block below houston, f train to 2nd = avenue) $10 ADMISSION ----- FREE REFRESHMENTS!!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:23:11 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vernon Frazer Subject: Re: Next Week! In-Reply-To: <003201c43f5f$5f2f60c0$27c7a918@rochester.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gerald If Andy Drury is a drummer, tell him I said hello. I knew him years ago when he was a student at Wesleyan & I was writing for Coda. He might still remember me. Taylor Ho Bynum heard me read my poetry 4 or 5 years ago with Rich McGhee's Trytone---I actually wanted Rich to try to bring him into the band--but we only met once, so he might not remember my name at all. Thsi sounds like a great show. Good luck! Vernon -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Schwartz Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:14 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Next Week! FUSIONARTS MUSEUM & STEVE SWELL (for more info: www.home.earthlink.net/~sdswell/ present 3rd Monthly MUSIC IN THE AFTERNOON SATURDAY, MAY 29 3PM--ANDREW DRURY GROUP Taylor Ho Bynum, Adam Lane 4PM--RAS MOSHES' MUSIC NOW! Todd Nicholson, Matt Heyner, Jackson Krall 5PM--MATT LAVELLE'S NEMESIS William Parker, Roy Campbell, Flip Barnes, Mike Thompson, Raphe Malik SUNDAY, APRIL 30 3PM--SABIR MATEEN TRIO Alan Silva, Jackson Krall 4PM--BLUE COLLAR Nate Wooley, Tatsuya Nakatani, Steve Swell 5PM--EARTH PEOPLE Sabir Mateen, Andre Martinez, Doug Principato, Mark Hennen WITH POETRY BY GERALD SCHWARTZ AND STEVE DALACHINSKY ALSO, FREE RAFFLE FOR ANYONE WHO GUESSES THE DATE THAT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES THE CAPTURE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION--THE WINNER WILL RECEIVE A CD OF ONE OF THE BANDS WHO HAVE PERFORMED AT THE FUSIONARTS GALLERY @ FUSIONARTS MUSEUM--57 STANTON ST. (between forsyth and eldridge, 1 block below houston, f train to 2nd avenue) $10 ADMISSION ----- FREE REFRESHMENTS!!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:58:46 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Zosia Performance Comments: cc: Hilton Obenzinger Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Running Through Fire: How I Survived the Holocaust by Zosia Goldberg as Told to Hilton Obenzinger (Mercury House, Publiahwe Congratulations Hilton to you and your wonderful cast at Stanford last night. Nary a dry eye in the quite full house. Among much of Zosia's sardonic, witful and precarious tale of survival as an assimilated Pole, the torture scenes were harrowing - particularly in the light of recent revelations about the ways in which our so-called "Command Structure" has implemented similarly grotesque methods with Iraqi and Afghan prisoners of war. "Never again", Oy! Suspect if you recover from your birthday celebration last night - as well - you will announce the upcoming performances in Berkeley and New York. The faithful transcriber, Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:57:01 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: The Cha-Lobby Is Fucked Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press (http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/) The Cha-Lobby Is Fucked: U.S. Intelligence Disguised As Iraqi Police Raid Home of Rumsfeld Associate: "It Was Not Chalabi, But The Company He Kept Like Rumsfeld, Cheney And Wolfowitz That Led To His Downfall" Says Tenet: "Cheney And Rumsfeld Made Me Say There Was WMD In Iraq So They Could Use The U.S. Army To Steal Iraq's Oil You Fuckin' American Dummies!!!," Screamed Chalabi As He Was Led Away In Cuffs: Chalabi's Files Show Paul Wolfowitz Cared Exactly 'Two Rat's Asses' About Democracy In Iraq And 'One Rat's Ass' About Democracy In U.S. Redeemable At Any Participating 7-Eleven With The Purchase of Two Portobello & Cheese Hot Monkey Wraps And A Large Diet Coke by Ham Zahndawich They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:12:19 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tenney Nathanson Subject: pog auction mania (update!) Comments: To: Tenney Nathanson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're up to $990 in ticket sales and pledges! please help us go "over the top"--we'd like to exceed our goal of $1,000. auction will be held this coming Monday morning in the UA English Department; you can buy tickets by responding backchannel to either: mailto:pog@gopog.org or mailto:nathanso@u.arizona.edu we'll fill in your name on the appropriate number of tickets and you can put a check in the mail or deliver one to UA English. for impressive list of prizes, including new prize of a Cynthia Miller painting (and for a link to some of Cynthia's recent work) just go to http://www.gopog.org/upcoming.html please support your friendly Tucson innovative arts group! thanks, Tenney mailto:tenney@dakotacom.net mailto:nathanso@u.arizona.edu http://www.u.arizona.edu/~nathanso/tn POG: mailto:pog@gopog.org http://www.gopog.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:17:17 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Re: Next Week! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vernon Frazer" To: Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Next Week! > Hey Gerald > > If Andy Drury is a drummer, tell him I said hello. yep, that's him. will do! I knew him years ago when > he was a student at Wesleyan & I was writing for Coda. He might still > remember me. Taylor Ho Bynum heard me read my poetry 4 or 5 years ago with > Rich McGhee's Trytone---I actually wanted Rich to try to bring him into the > band--but we only met once, so he might not remember my name at all. copy that... Thsi > sounds like a great show. thank you > > Good luck! > > Vernon > > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On > Behalf Of Gerald Schwartz > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:14 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Next Week! > > FUSIONARTS MUSEUM > & > STEVE SWELL > (for more info: www.home.earthlink.net/~sdswell/ > present > 3rd Monthly > MUSIC IN THE AFTERNOON > > SATURDAY, MAY 29 > 3PM--ANDREW DRURY GROUP > Taylor Ho Bynum, Adam Lane > 4PM--RAS MOSHES' MUSIC NOW! > Todd Nicholson, Matt Heyner, Jackson Krall > 5PM--MATT LAVELLE'S NEMESIS > William Parker, Roy Campbell, Flip Barnes, Mike Thompson, Raphe Malik > > SUNDAY, APRIL 30 > 3PM--SABIR MATEEN TRIO > Alan Silva, Jackson Krall > 4PM--BLUE COLLAR > Nate Wooley, Tatsuya Nakatani, Steve Swell > 5PM--EARTH PEOPLE > Sabir Mateen, Andre Martinez, Doug Principato, Mark Hennen > > WITH POETRY BY GERALD SCHWARTZ AND STEVE DALACHINSKY > ALSO, FREE RAFFLE FOR ANYONE WHO GUESSES THE DATE THAT THE > BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES THE CAPTURE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN > BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION--THE WINNER WILL RECEIVE A CD OF ONE OF > THE BANDS WHO HAVE PERFORMED AT THE FUSIONARTS GALLERY > > @ FUSIONARTS MUSEUM--57 STANTON ST. > (between forsyth and eldridge, 1 block below houston, f train to 2nd avenue) > $10 ADMISSION ----- FREE REFRESHMENTS!!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:30:46 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'fronzen addict' not 'frozen attic' cocaine laced with angel dust over time parkinson's no great shakes poet of the long river train for the dash run the marathon rose bloom dusk...& to bed...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:30:56 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'frozen addict' not 'frozen attic' cocaine laced with angel dust over time parkinson's no great shakes poet of the long river train for the dash run the marathon rose bloom dusk...& to bed...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:42:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Barrett Watten Subject: Reading in Paris Friday 5/28 Comments: cc: Carla Harryman Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you happen to read this and will be in Paris: Dans le cadre de l'exposition Les Cahiers de la Seine / Philippe H=E9l=E9non= , l'espace galerie Touzot, les Cahiers de la Seine et Martin Richet vous invitent =E0 une lecture bilingue de Barrett Watten et Carla Harryman Vendredi 28 mai 2004 =E0 19h30 espace galerie Touzot 22 rue des Quatre Vents 75006 Paris M=B0 Od=E9on entr=E9e libre Barrett Watten, n=E9 en 1948, est po=E8te, critique et =E9diteur. Il est,=20 notamment, l'auteur de Frame (1975-1990), Sun & Moon Press, 1997 ; Bad=20 History, Atelos, 2002 ; et Progress/Under Erasure, Green Integer, 2004. Il= =20 a =E9galement dirig=E9 les revues This, avec Robert Grenier, de 1971 =E0= 1982,=20 Poetics Journal, avec Lyn Hejinian, de 1982 =E0 1998, et les =E9ditions This= =20 Press. Son dernier ouvrage critique, The Constructivist Moment, from=20 Material Text to Cultural Poetics, Wesleyan University Press, 2003, a re=E7u= =20 le prix Ren=E9 Wellek. Carla Harryman, n=E9e en 1952, est romanci=E8re, po=E8te et dramaturge. Elle= a=20 dirig=E9 la revue QU, revue de prose exp=E9rimentale, et particip=E9 aux=20 activit=E9s du Poet's Theatre de San Francisco. Parmi ses publications=20 figurent Under the Bridge, This Press, 1980 ; Vice, Potes & Poets Press,=20 1986 ; Animal Instincts, This Press, 1989 ; Memory Play, O Books, 1994 ;=20 There Never Was a Rose Without a Thorn, City Lights, 1995 ; The Words,=20 after Carl Sandburg's Rootabaga Stories and Jean-Paul Sartre, O Books, 1999= =20 ; et Gardener of Stars, Atelos, 2001. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:44:59 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Palm Berthe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Executive Summary by Ian Murray Palm Berthe Nikuko speaks: I speak. Nikuko speaks: I Nikuko Nikuko speaks: Nikuko speaks: I speak. Languages are one language of pain and retribution. _ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 01:25:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: 3d MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 3d you don't get it do you. every one of us is writing past the other. the days of online trust are past. we are passing each other like nighttime ships. there are no connections but misrecognitions. what can i take from this community. what can you give me. it's just another form of greed. you can't take it can you. who do you think you're fooling. you're really a piece of work. you're really something else. i don't get it do i. every one of us is writing past the other. the days of online trust are past. we are passing each other like nighttime ships. there are no connections but misrecognitions. what can i take from this community. what can i give me. it's just another form of greed. i can't take it can i. who do i think i're fooling. i're really a piece of work. i're really something else. they don't get it do they. every one of us is writing past the other. the days of online trust are past. we are passing each other like nighttime ships. there are no connections but misrecognitions. what can i take from this community. what can they give me. it's just another form of greed. they can't take it can they. who do they think they're fooling. they're really a piece of work. they're really something else. - ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:57:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Palm Berthe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pain & retribution my wife says to me everyday can't you think of anything one thing good to say & then we argue somemore but those pinks she bought in chinatown & stuck all over our tiny outside ledge sure look nice ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:05:47 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Next Week! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit vern wha's up i'm on this over-amping onanist kick now too high everybody when yer goin ter china lad? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 02:43:51 -0400 Reply-To: Millie Niss Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Millie Niss Subject: Re: Vision Festival Errata MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you say where you are performing? Millie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adeena Karasick" To: Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: Vision Festival Errata > My performance opening nite is > > TUESDAY, MAY 25 > 8:00 pm ish > > ((NOT THURSDAY)) > > sorry.. > hope to still see you, > best, > Adeena > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 07:35:27 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adeena Karasick Subject: Ninth Vision Festival MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you say where you are performing? Millie Ninth Vision Festival Tues. May 25, 2004 The Center @ Old St. Patrick's Cathedral 268 Mulberry and Houston Street 7:30 - midnite New York, NY-- Arts for Art presents New York's own, world renowned, VISION FESTIVAL. This first-rate multi-arts festival is organized with the understanding that all of the arts, their audiences and writers are interconnected. This year's festival will feature approximately 150 artists in 30 different performing groups over a period of seven days. The link between spoken word and music is well established. Spoken word artists have worked closely and collaborated with Vision Festival musicians since the 1970s, each artist influencing the other in their exchange of ideas, creating new languages and forms of interaction. COMPLETE SCHEDULE FOR VISION NINE Tuesday May 25 7:30 Joseph Jarman Invocation 8:00 Marshall Allen and the Sun Ra Arkestra celebrates Marshall Allen's 80th Birthday Marshall Allen alto saxophone - flute - EVI -clarinet- / Knoel Scott alto saxophone Charles Davis tenor / Yaha Abdul-Majid tenor saxophone / Rey Scott baritone saxophone Michael Ray trumpet - vocals / Fred Adams trumpet / D Hotep guitar Dave Davis trombone / Tyrone Hill trombone / Bill Davis bass / Art Jenkins vocals perc Elson Nascimento Surdo - percussion / Luquman Ali drums 9:00 Gus Solomons jr - dance Adeena Karasick poetry Todd Nicholson bass 9:45 Khan Jamal Quintet / Khan Jamal vibes / Pheralyn Dove poet Jemeel Moondoc sax / Roy Campbell trumpet / Dylan Taylor bass / Dwight James drums 10:45 James "Blood" Ulmer guitar / Jamaladeen Tacuma bass / Calvin Weston drums TICKETS $25 per night - 7 Day Pass $140 Advance sales Downtown Music Gallery 212-473-0043 / email dmg@downtownmusicgallery.com For updates www.visionfestival.org or call 212-696-6681 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 07:51:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vernon Frazer Subject: Re: Next Week! In-Reply-To: <20040519.205636.-193771.5.skyplums@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leaving Tuesday, coming back around 6/25. I'm reading your "Post-Beat-Poets (Credo # 2) as part of my presentation at the Beat Meets West conference. We're in a packing frenzy, running down to the wire. I'll talk about it more, but I don't know if this is going to the List or to you directly. Backchannel me (i.e. write to me directly instead of to the List) later & I'll fill you in. Vernon http://vernonfrazer.com -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Dalachinsky Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:06 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Next Week! vern wha's up i'm on this over-amping onanist kick now too high everybody when yer goin ter china lad? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:57:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Open question for George Bowering (and everyone else). MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, George Bowering wrote: > Regarding Carl Peters' remark that rock stars are artists etc. I > figure he is trying to be silly or maybe provocative. The electric > guitar amped is easy to play, easy enough to do that strumming they do in them punky bands. . . I’m curious. What are people on the list listening to in May 2004? Particularly newish stuff. Myself (all artists extensively available on file sharing networks like Acquisition): Don Caballero – What Burns Never Return The Ex Models – Other Mathematics Do Make Say Think – Winter Hymn Country Hymn Secret Hymn Matmos – The Civil war Young People – War Prayers Shellac – 1000 Hurts Lightning Bolt – Beautiful Rainbow Pretty Girls Make Graves – Good Health Explosions in the Sky – How Strange, Innocence Les Savy Fav – Inches Marc Ribot/John Zorn – Masada Guitars Modest Mouse – The Lonesome Crowded West The Russian Futurists – Let’s Get Ready to Crumble "I got wood legs and bow legs and no legs at all Goddamn! Would you accept a collect call? Oh no, I don't understand I got sore eyes and poor eyes and no eyes at all Goddamn! Would you like to take a fall? No I don't like this plan It was a staple of brass tacks and waxed backs A memo left on the forehead of God Sent sealed and signed by the saints who sang this song: "We're going union like they say We'll buy the congregation Then one day, you'll find us sitting in your chairs with big ideas of stocks and shares." from "Beach Side Property" by Modest Mouse ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:14:57 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: U.S. Soldier Found Guilty of Deserting Murder Squad in Iraq Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press (http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/) U.S. Soldier Found Guilty of Deserting Murder Squad in Iraq: Cheney Calls His Moral Principles 'Unamerican' by Russty Byfokal They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:51:23 -0400 Reply-To: patrick@proximate.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Herron Subject: Move along, there's nothing to see here MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "One thing is for certain: There won't be any more mass graves and torture rooms and rape rooms."-Bush (http://tinyurl.com/298hv), press availability in Monterrey, Mexico, Jan. 12, 2004 "Every woman in Iraq is better off because the rape rooms and torture chambers of Saddam Hussein are forever closed."-Bush, remarks on "Efforts to Globally Promote Women's Human Rights," March 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3f7td "There's still remnants of that regime that would like to take it back. . They could torture people and have rape rooms, and the world would turn their head from that and let it happen. But they can't do that anymore."-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, BBC interview, March 16, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/26h9y "There are no more rape rooms and torture chambers in Iraq."-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, CBS Early Show, March 19, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/yrh2e "Our military is . performing brilliantly. See, the transition from torture chambers and rape rooms and mass graves and fear of authority is a tough transition. And they're doing the good work of keeping this country stabilized as a political process unfolds."-Bush, remarks on "Tax Relief and the Economy," Iowa, April 15, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/363wn http://tinyurl.com/2zomy "I'm not a lawyer. My impression is that what has been charged thus far is abuse, which I believe technically is different from torture. . I don't know if it is correct to say what you just said, that torture has taken place, or that there's been a conviction for torture. And therefore I'm not going to address the torture word."-Rumsfeld (http://tinyurl.com/ywu4x), Defense Department Operational Update Briefing, May 4, 2004 Abuse - (1) to use wrongly or improperly; misuse; (to abuse one's rights or authority.) (2) to treat in a harmful, injurious or offensive way (to abuse a horse, to abuse one's eyesight) (3) to speak insultingly, harshly, and unjustly to or about; revile or malign. (4) to commit indecent assault upon. (5) to deceive; cheat. (6) to abuse one-self, to masturbate. (7) wrong or improper use, misuse. (8) harshly or coarsely insulting language. (9) bad or improper treatment; maltreatment (the child was subjected to cruel abuse.) (10) a corrupt or improper practice or custom (the abuses of bad government.) (11) rape or indecent assault. Torture - (1) the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty. (2) a method of inflicting such pain. (3) often, tortures, the pain or suffering caused or undergone. (4) extreme anguish of body or mind; agony. (5) a cause of severe pain or anguish. (6) to subject to torture. (7) to subject to severe pain of body or mind (my back tortures me.) (8) to force or extort by torture (we'll torture the truth from his lips!) (9) to twist, force, or bring into some unnatural position or form. (10) to distort or pervert. from Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 13:07:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: intro to creative writing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A friend teaching Intro to Creative Writing in the Fall and is supposed = to be ordering books now. She's wondering if anyone can recommend hip = unpredictable books on that subject. Title? Michael Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 13:31:31 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maureen Robins Subject: Re: intro to creative writing In-Reply-To: <001c01c4401f$3b5b4ea0$fb02a5d1@ibmw17kwbratm7> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit All genres? Poemcrazy and Bird by Bird. Writing Down the Bones and Wild Mind. Robin Behn's and Chase Twichell's "The Practice of Poetry." I also still like every now and then to read The Triggering Town by Richard Hugo. Interesting book from a Young Adult writer ME Kerr, Blood on the Forehead has some good stuff. I'm not sure these are hip enough but they work for my students -- and me. Hope this helps. Maureen Picard Robins 5/22/04 1:07 PM, Michael Rothenberg at walterblue@EARTHLINK.NET wrote: > A friend teaching Intro to Creative Writing in the Fall and is supposed to be > ordering books now. She's wondering if anyone can recommend hip unpredictable > books on that subject. Title? > > Michael > > > > Michael Rothenberg > walterblue@bigbridge.org > Big Bridge > www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 19:45:01 +0200 Reply-To: magee@uni.lodz.pl Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Magee Subject: Slabs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Time and again the passage across the impasse, impassive, dispassionate alignments delineate the detour around the lines of block-housing, entire towns housed here. Once in a while the miles contract to form trajectories, comprehensible sequences. The mute functionalism of units stacked one above another, city blocks locked in a spatial array of mutual removal. One at a time for the time being motions are committed from memory, the volume on the television increases upstairs, while downstairs inaudible toasts greet laughter. Somewhere a radio. Across the street, a man beats rugs for a living, and the thuds echo heavily throughout the housing blocks on warm days. What's there to see? There was the space that could be stepped into and which allowed for moving through it, the space itself, did you move through that space, there were projections. Put something down for the moment, right now, anything, like that book on its face, or the lit switch. Neither one can be seen, brushed across the surface of something or other. That's not what it was thought to be and couldn't, it just couldn't be, no more than whatever it was it might have been. There isn't anything to put there, place here, other than the perception that the place itself is disappearing under the pressure of other sides to the same thing, something. Sometimes there is this search for an affirmation of anything, though what, if that's impossible to say, and it is. Children are laughing in the corridor again. Unbearable to be. That book on its face tells a story in a language that refuses to move one word from another beyond one another. You read it until the end and then it's over. There's got to be something else, something more, than so many names and locations, placements, fictive equivalents of a mutual will to ascribe to the described scene the definiteness of place. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:45:35 -0700 Reply-To: antrobin@clipper.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anthony Robinson Subject: Re: intro to creative writing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For an intro poetry workshop, I've had great success with Kenneth Koch's "Making Your Own Days" Tony __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 13:46:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mairead Byrne Subject: Re: intro to creative writing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline This is not a textbook but it's a great book for Intro to Creative Writing: Joe Brainard's I REMEMBER. Mairead Mairéad Byrne Assistant Professor of English Rhode Island School of Design Providence, RI 02903 www.wildhoneypress.com www.maireadbyrne.blogspot.com >>> walterblue@EARTHLINK.NET 05/22/04 13:03 PM >>> A friend teaching Intro to Creative Writing in the Fall and is supposed to be ordering books now. She's wondering if anyone can recommend hip unpredictable books on that subject. Title? Michael Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:42:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: LA: multimedia series not this Sunday but next Sunday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable reading and performing in a new multimedia series at the smell 6 pm =96 9 pm, Sunday, May 30, 2004 Stan Apps, poet, member of the unnamed chapbook collective David Stromberg, author, publisher of Jovian Books, with projections of his graphic art & text Rasmus J=F8rgensen, Norwegian Sound Poet W.A.C.O. the smell 247 south main=20 (across from St. Vibiana) los angeles, ca (the smell is next to the building that used to be a Japanese movie theatre. enter off the alley in the back) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:47:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Fu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Fu How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! I remember standing on the corner of James and Charles Street talking to Platt Townend and she said why do you have to bring up those thing, referring to my writing on the medical cases in Nazi Germany. How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! I remember flinging her at the Blue and White dance across the floor just to see if it could be done. How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! The boys in the lockerrooms boasted of how many women they slept with, the record being seventeen in one night. How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! I remember Cherie Kanjorski going with me to the prom because she couldn't get anyone else to go with her and later she water-skied into a diving board. How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! I made a secret list of my best friends because none of them were. How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! I remember Dina Raker's breasts and saying I was sad her dad (maybe it was her mom) died and she said you're not you don't care at all. How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! I remember sitting out in a gym exercise and blaming the others for the action and feeling shamed afterwards for my cowardice. How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! The only way I could peel out with my mom's Plymouth was in reverse. How those years have passed away! Memories are all I have and I know they're real! I'm not making anything up, I'm not fabricating! They happen just as I tell them! _ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:43:48 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "D. Ross Priddle" Subject: Fw: Villan Dandruff (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII crouse is in the house! (about aboutness indeed) -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:58:41 -0800 From: John Crouse/Michelle Felix To: D. Ross Priddle Subject: Fw: Villan Dandruff ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Leftwich To: John Crouse/Michelle Felix Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 1:14 AM Subject: Villan Dandruff > Villan Dandruff > > > Villan Goose Recruiting Windshields > Hubbub Crit Martian Squirming > > Scroll Slaughter Gadget Spies > Liquor Forth Registered Household > > Cataclysm Paradox Connectivity Mode > Mog Potent Seamless Priority > > Cools Asterix Cubic Wheelspin > Sunlight Shed Hybrid Milliseconds > > Poured Fenceline Untamed Tranquilizer > Litany Daze Morphing Appointment > > Kirkuk Erection Ponderosa Fetish > Refresh Frags Wildfire Traction > > Tone Opoly Lubricant Moniker > Page Load Karaoke Landfill > > Ion Stock Highbrow Volleyball > More Train Millionaire Cockroaches > > Pose Range Monosyllabic Kidney > Withheld Jet Apparel Avenger > > Partment Raw Cashmere Adobe > Outlook Express Esperanto Dandruff > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 18:26:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Re: intro to creative writing thanks everyone! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks everyone for the suggestions, very helpful. Best, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Robins" To: Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: Re: intro to creative writing > All genres? Poemcrazy and Bird by Bird. Writing Down the Bones and Wild > Mind. Robin Behn's and Chase Twichell's "The Practice of Poetry." I also > still like every now and then to read The Triggering Town by Richard Hugo. > Interesting book from a Young Adult writer ME Kerr, Blood on the Forehead > has some good stuff. I'm not sure these are hip enough but they work for my > students -- and me. Hope this helps. > > Maureen Picard Robins > > 5/22/04 1:07 PM, Michael Rothenberg at walterblue@EARTHLINK.NET wrote: > > > A friend teaching Intro to Creative Writing in the Fall and is supposed to be > > ordering books now. She's wondering if anyone can recommend hip unpredictable > > books on that subject. Title? > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > Michael Rothenberg > > walterblue@bigbridge.org > > Big Bridge > > www.bigbridge.org > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:37:28 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: e-mail addresses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm looking for the e-mail addresses of Clayton Eshleman, and Michael = Ventura. If anyone knows either, or both, please write me directly. Thanks so much. Joel ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:05:06 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit quick write a pome 'le mot just' .4 sec back to the basket... 11:59..all the time in the world..drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:29:11 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Open question for George Bowering (and everyone else). MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow do you ever listen to music? ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:09:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: non-academic poet seeking publisher (formerly Separating Bush,etc.) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello vernon hello martha it is reliable as well as factual shit prick of a publisher tho i'll share a bit of the blame and i was this really this close - vern the musician in question is charles gayle - a true 1st all live gigs meltzer has his lester young which i have not read and you say coolidge and rova wow boring rova always puts me to sleep but quite a feat i would say- i have abatch for cecil too that i'm tryin to put together 20 yrs or so the gayle poems # at least 150 or so nice hearin the wind in mazzecane's strings brings the static in my guts to a stan still ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 02:31:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: paste MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII everything washes out and directs itself no evidence left anywhere another of numerous disappearances the color of the back of the body bears witness but this isn't that this turns away from that this is an alternator an alternative an alternation an altering www.asondheim.org/thewash.jpg cut and paste cut and paste _ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 00:16:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Walking Theory #21 - #29 now up! Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ...Why a Brillo box on TV, in the museum, under the nightly sink? Why a flat iron, a tall mirror, 34 shades of lipstick, an amber plastic canister, faint colored pills? Why an interior, an exterior or something flat, thin with neither? Why a fine threaded black grid floated on one canvas, simulated blood spilled on another?... from Walking Theory #29 The combined Walking Theory pieces #21 - #29 are now up at: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com Walking Theory pieces are kindly commissioned by Chris Sullivan at Slight publications:http://www.8letters.blogspot.com/. Currently at Slight, pieces #12 - #18 may be viewed with Sullivan's visual responses. These new works - below - will be illusrated at Slight in the future. Stephen Vincent ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 03:46:49 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Boyko Subject: finally, i can relate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a question i can answer. what am i listening to? well, since you asked... the mountain goats- we shall all be healed nick cave- nocturama guided by voices- bee thousand destroyer- this night june panic- hope you fail better blood brothers- burn piano island burn neutral milk hotel- on avery island do make say think- goodbye enemy airship the landlord is dead belle and sebastian- dear catastrophe waitress and there you have it. a thoroughly incomplete list. peace boyko ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 03:51:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Open question for George Bowering (and everyone else). (10 lines) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Steve Dalachinsky wrote: >wow do you ever listen to music? Um. Care to clarify? (I.e., are you familiar with the artists listed?) I'd have thought that a self-described "non-academic poet" responisble for "a batch" of poems for Cecil Taylor would have more open ears. Is Ornette Coleman music? Is Steve Reich’s “It’s Gonna Rain (I & II)” music? (For that matter, were the Four Horsemen poets?) Anyway, I think you'd really like Matmos' second-last album "A Chance to Cut Is a Chance to Cure." The entire record is built up from samples of plastic surgery and medical technology which the bands' two members (one is an English prof. at Berkeley actually) recorded 'in the field.' I think you might also enjoy Japan's Boredoms. Here’s excerpts from an interview with the band: In the recent Boredoms CD, Pop Tatari, there is a picture in the booklet of you. It looks like you are with Lee 'Scratch' Perry...Is that right? Where did you meet him? Yoshimi: Yeah! (laughs) I love him. I went to see him play live in Osaka and then went after him (laughing) ... Eye, Is that your real name? Eye: Actually, it comes from my younger sister's name Aiko. I took the Ai part, writing it out like the English word 'eye.' No meaning, I just did it. Did that happen around the time you dropped the 'i' from the band name Hanatarashi when it became Hanatarash. Eye: Mmmaybe, but nothing intentional (laughs). Hanatarash were a pretty infamous band that was known for wild, violent live performances. There is a rumor that you drove a bulldozer through the wall of the club where you were performing. Is that true? Eye: Yes. It was the dinosaur kind. With the back hoe scooper. Just drove it into the club. Was the club owner happy with you destroying the walls of his club? Eye: Hmm. We pretty much destroyed... ruined that club. I was planning on throwing Molotov cocktails but the bulldozer I was driving tipped over and gasoline spilled out. If we threw the Molotov cocktails, we would have set the whole place on fire. Is that the same show where you had a circular saw strapped on your back and accidentally cut your leg? Eye: That was a different show. Have you felt the sound has changed since you started? Will the new album be different than Pop Tatari? Eye: The first album was not really musical because Yoshikawa didn't really know how to play drums. Yoshimi: It was great, but it wasn't music. Eye: He would always kinda play around the edges, hit all kinds of strange parts on the drum. His sweat would be flying all over the place because he was a very energetic drummer. People in the U.S. have the stereotype that women in Japan are very subservient to men. Yoshimi, what kind of reaction do you get being a woman drummer? Is this stereotype even true? Yoshimi: When playing with Boredoms I don't think about me being a woman and them being men or anything like that. Just being in a band. I guess I meant more like reactions from other people in Japan towards you. Yoshimi: Some people may think I am kind of scary, both men and women. They think it is hard to come up and talk to me. Eye, you did some duets with John Zorn during the Noisefest Tokyo show at the Knitting Factory in New York. Is that ever going to be released? Eye: I don't know if they were recorded or not. I understand you went to visit Caroliner Rainbow today. How did you find out about them and what is it about them that you like? Eye: I learned about them from Steve Albini and got one of their records from David of Public Bath. I really like their music. I was very shocked and impressed by what I saw at their house today. Skeletons, mummified animals, bright fluorescent colors... Eye: Mmmmm yeah. A friend wanted me to ask "Why are wild and crazy bands like Boredoms only coming from Japan and not the United States? Is it something about the Japanese culture?" (loud laughter) Eye: I say San Francisco,... San Francisco is more ...more, More crazy! ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 03:51:29 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Boyko Subject: ps andrew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm so glad that people are listening to lightning bolt. they make me tense in a good way. and good health by PGMG rules, as does the new album, though maybe not quite as much. boyko ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 04:36:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Walking Theories. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stephen, Can you tell me a little about the 'terms' or formal parameters which guide your collaboration with Chris Sullivan? As “visual responses” I take it you had no direct involvement in the selection of the images. Do they change how you read your own work? How is it to write knowing your work will be set to images, or, rather, that images will be set to your work. It’s a *relatively* common form of collaboration, I know, but I think I’d find it daunting. -- Andrew. http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 01:37:53 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: bad gurrrl Subject: Hannah Grammaticone: Happy to See MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hannah Grammaticone: Happy to see O E verybody's N appy H aired somewhere she S ay lover where You W [ish & Y] ooooo`oooooo Been ee`eeeeeeeee 2 N=MC? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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A $15 entry fee ($25 for international submissions), payable to Boston Review must accompany all submissions. All entrants will receive a one-year subscription to the magazine. COMPLETE GUIDELINES are available at http://bostonreview.net/contests.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:07:17 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tenney Nathanson Subject: POG raffle: last day to buy yr tickets for Monday's drawing! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can still buy tickets for the pog raffle, via email. But today's the last chance. Drawing is tomorrow. To buy tickets just email either mailto:pog@gopog.org or mailto:nathanso@u.arizona.edu we'll fill in your name on the appropriate number of tickets and you can put a check in the mail tomorrow morning or deliver one to UA English. for impressive list of prizes, including new prize of a Cynthia Miller painting (and for a link to some of Cynthia's recent work) just go to http://www.gopog.org/upcoming.html total ticket sales + pledges now at $ 1,045! please help us add to the total. Tenney POG: mailto:pog@gopog.org http://www.gopog.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:24:37 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bill Marsh Subject: Zazil2 #6 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The latest installment of Zazil2 (currently the newsletter of the San Diego Poetry Guild) is now available in PDF through the Factory School website. Featuring work by: Bobbie West, Bill Marsh, Octavia Davis, Carlos Conrad, Jen Vernon, Ricardo Guthrie, J.R. Osborn, Ashley Lindemann, and Jingle http://www.factoryschool.org/zazil/z2.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:48:30 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: FW: Poetry in The Schools, political threat In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable It=B9s interesting how =AD particularly in the last 35 years of NEA and State sponsored support =AD poetry and other creative practices have been nourished in K =AD 12 schools in the USA. The support has been multi-angled =AD from the joy and practical application of students becoming immersed in the creative process, increased reading and critical skills, collaborative and competitive respect etc., certainly all goals contributing to the communal good. (Perhaps obviously, I used to write grant program applications for Poetry-in-the-Schools). Yet, particularly as =B3homeland security=B2 becomes th= e wedge, the common good is put through the warp of another definition in which speech, creative expression and critical skill runs the risk of outrageous repression. Vigilance, Exposure and Resistance to these =B3security=B2 acts are becoming increasingly urgent =AD whether or not the repressive actions are directly or indirectly enacted by authorities =AD such as in the story below. I can only begin to imagine the bravery of poetry an= d art teachers (let alone other teachers) under similar threat of these circumstances.=20 Hard lessons from poetry class: Speech is free unless it's critical By BILL HILL Last update: 15 May 2004 =20 Bill Nevins, a New Mexico high school teacher and personal friend, was fire= d last year and classes in poetry and the poetry club at Rio Rancho High School were permanently terminated. It had nothing to do with obscenity, bu= t it had everything to do with extremist politics. The "Slam Team" was a group of teenage poets who asked Nevins to serve as faculty adviser to their club. The teens, mostly shy youngsters, were taugh= t to read their poetry aloud and before audiences. Rio Rancho High School gav= e the Slam Team access to the school's closed-circuit television once a week and the poets thrived. In March 2003, a teenage girl named Courtney presented one of her poems before an audience at Barnes & Noble bookstore in Albuquerque, then read th= e poem live on the school's closed-circuit television channel. A school military liaison and the high school principal accused the girl of being "un-American" because she criticized the war in Iraq and the Bush administration's failure to give substance to its "No child left behind" education policy. The girl's mother, also a teacher, was ordered by the principal to destroy the child's poetry. The mother refused and may lose her job. Bill Nevins was suspended for not censoring the poetry of his students. Remember, there is no obscenity to be found in any of the poetry. He was later fired by the principal. After firing Nevins and terminating the teaching and reading of poetry in the school, the principal and the military liaison read a poem of their own as they raised the flag outside the school. When the principal had the flag at full staff, he applauded the action he'd taken in concert with the military liaison.=20 Then to all students and faculty who did not share his political opinions, the principal shouted:! "Shut y our faces." What a wonderful lesson he gave those 3,000 students at the largest public high school in New Mexico. In hi= s mind, only certain opinions are to be allowed. But more was to come. Posters done by art students were ordered torn down, even though none was termed obscene. Some were satirical, implicating a national policy that had led us into war. Art teachers who refused to rip down the posters on display in their classrooms were not given contracts to return to the school in this current school year. The message is plain. Critical thinking, questioning of public policies and freedom of speech are not to be allowed to anyone who does not share the thinking of the school principal. The teachers union has been joined in a legal action against the school by the National Writers Union, headquartered in New York City. NWU's at-large representative Samantha Clark lives and works in Albuquerque. The American Civil Liberties Union has become the legal arm of the lawsuit pending in federal court.=20 Meanwhile, Nevins applied for a teaching post in another school and was offered the job but he can't go to work until Rio Rancho's principal sends the new school Nevins' credentials. The principal has refused to do so, and that adds yet another issue to the lawsuit, which is awaiting a trial date. While students are denied poetry readings, poetry clubs and classes in poetry, Nevins works elsewhere and writes his own poetry. Writers and editors who have spent years translating essays, films, poems, scientific articles and books by Iranian, North Korean and Sudanese authors have been warned not to do so by the U.S. Treasury Department under penalty of fine and imprisonment. Publishers and film producers are not allowed to edit works authored by writers in those nations. The Bush administration contends doing so has the effect of trading with the enemy, despite a 1988 law that exempts published materials from sanction under trade rules. Robert Bovenschulte, president o! f the Am erican Chemical Society, is challenging the rule interpretation by violating it to edit into English several scientific papers from Iran. Are book burnings next? ------ End of Forwarded Message ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:10:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was alarmed by the dual use of the word "critical" in the forwarded article. "Critical thinking" and "being critical of the government" are not identical pursuits. I guess partially because I'm coming from a different place, too, with my opinions on this matter. While I recognize the problem of arts in the schools and free speech, I do wonder how, for very young children, arts in the schools programs are encouraging certain types of critical thinking and artistic responses. I guess I would hope that we teachers and artists are not simply, like marketers, simply seeking and finding less and less critical "market share" by teaching children. The political tensions in the schools, where most children still hold the political beliefs of their parents, and in small towns in the west and southwest, where those political beliefs are more likely than not to be politically conservative and/or supported by military installations, creating a town and gown problem, or tensions between more liberal faculty students attempt to please and more conservative parents students also attempt to please, can hardly benefit high school and younger students as much as "critical thinking" or "creative writing technique" in general could. Based on my own experience, too -- I assumed a reading series at a chain bookstore because the previous slam-based open mike, when the curator went off his medication, became a weekly rowdy anti-war rant. Not all bad, but not a poetry reading. -- I wonder at slam politics (sloganeering, hardly nuanced poly sci) being supported in the schools under the aegis of giving students self-confidence. What happened to teaching art? All best, Catherine Daly cadaly@pacbell.net ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 16:31:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: recombinant production tending towards white-hole implosion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII recombinant production tending towards white-hole implosion this is so simple, if it weren't for the theme of spew/emissions/symbol, it would be close to ludicrous. in fact it is old-fashion, _an image_ and nothing more, in relation to _an other image._ http://www.asondheim.org/thewash.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/restoration.jpg reverse engineering i apologize for my antiquity ) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:08:30 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: London: TUESDAY 25 MAY: FROZEN TEARS II - THE SEQUEL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Status: U >Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 21:23:14 +0100 >Subject: TUESDAY 25 MAY: FROZEN TEARS II - THE SEQUEL >From: John Russell > >JOHN RUSSELL >Presents > >FROZEN TEARS II - THE SEQUEL > >LAUNCH EVENT/CONCERT: >TUESDAY 25 MAY FROM 8PM TO LATE >ENTRANCE FREE >MOONLIGHTING NIGHTCLUB, 17 GREEK STREET, SOHO, LONDON, > >ITALIAN METAL BAND FROZEN TEARS PLAY LIVE AT 9pm >plus >REAL TIME AUDIO PROCESS by SOBITNY SLOVINI AND FRIENDS > >INFO: contact CABINET GALLERY 020 7251 6114 or art@cabinet.demon.co.uk >Or www.frozentears.co.uk > >SIX PAGE ARTISTS PROJECT BY JOHN RUSSELL IN JUNE ISSUE OF SLEAZE MAGAZINE > >FROZEN TEARS [THE BAND] NEW CD METAL HURRICANE INFO: www.frozentears.it > >FROZEN TEARS II [THE BOOK] =A39.99 >Published by ARTicle Press ISBN: 1-873352-88-3 >ORDER at: www.frozentears.co.uk or www.centralbooks.co.uk > >TEXTS BY: KATHY ACKER, MIREILLE ANDR=C8S, ANTONIN ARTAUD, DOMINIQUE > AUCH, NED BALDWIN, STEPHEN BARBER, GEORGES BATAILLE, BAUDELAIRE, >JOHN BEAGLES, MARK BEASLEY, DODIE BELLAMY, ALISSA BENNETT, SIMON >BILL, JESSE BRANSFORD, R.A.BRANSFORD JR ESQ, PAUL BUCK, BONNIE >CAMPLIN, ALINE BOUVY/JOHN GILLIS, DENNIS COOPER, JOHN CUSSANS, >TRINIE DALTON, SUE DE BEER, BROCK ENRIGHT, FELIX ENSSLIN, DAN FOX, >ROBERT GARNETT, PAUL GREEN, MATTHEW GREENE, FERNANDO GUERREIRO, >PIERRE GUYOTAT, ILANA HALPERIN, GLEN HELFAND, JACQUES HENRIC, RACHEL >HOWE, BEN KALEB BRANTLEY, SETH KELLY, KEVIN KILLIAN, CHRISTOPHER >KNOWLES, JENNIFER KRASINSKI, CEDAR LEWISOHN, LORENZO DE LOS ANGELES >III, RACHEL LOWTHER, DAVE MARTIN, KARL MARX, CASEY MCKINNEY, GEAN >MORENO, J.P. MUNRO, PAULINA OLOWSKA, SIMON O'SULLIVAN, ARTHUR OU, >DAMON PACKARD, MIKE PAR=C9, GRAHAM PARKER, WOTJEK PUSLOWSKI, ADAM >PUTNAM, IAN RAFAEL TITUS, EUG=C8NE SAVITZKAYA, ERIC SCHNELL, AMY >SILLMAN, ALLISON SMITH, JOANNE TATHAM/ TOM O'SULLIVAN, DANIEL >TOROP, GENYA TUROVSKY, BANKS VIOLETTE, BENJAMIN WEISSMAN, IVAN >WITENSTEIN, THOM WOLF > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 16:37:34 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat In-Reply-To: <003d01c440f9$9f7efaf0$220110ac@CADALY> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a poet in residence in the school in the Lawndale/Little Village neighborhood of Chicago about 80% of my kids are Mexican American the balance African American. It has been my experience that the kids are served best when I 1) give them the best poetry possible to read, this means, Neruda, Williams, Pound, Lorca, Whitman, HD, Mistral, Paz. and that the poetry is not watered down if they get 30% of it at least they get 30% of greatness and not 100% of crap. 2) I demand excellence from them these kids;they are not lauded and they need to be, but by actually creating excellence spelling correctly, using language well. 3) Making sure that the children are required to actually interact with language and grow. It is my experience that politics will come out of this mix as will critical thinking. I also think that conservative and "Conservative" are different things. Most of the kids in my school come from conservative backgrounds their parents work hard, they are mostly Catholics they are personally conservative but they are not "Conservative" the way Fox News is Conservative. I also believe that the reason that the Right can demonize the Left in the classroom especially with little kids is because we do not believe in rigor. There are many other poets in residence in Chicago who do not demand rigor from their kids they want to help them "feel" or they have a political agenda I think this is destructive for little kids lets give these kids the best and they can sort out their opinions. Excellence is the answer not politics, if you give kids great work to read there minds will expand, I am sure all of us on the list had a teacher who did this for them. Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Catherine Daly > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:11 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat > > > I was alarmed by the dual use of the word "critical" in the forwarded > article. "Critical thinking" and "being critical of the government" are > not identical pursuits. > > I guess partially because I'm coming from a different place, too, with > my opinions on this matter. While I recognize the problem of arts in > the schools and free speech, I do wonder how, for very young children, > arts in the schools programs are encouraging certain types of critical > thinking and artistic responses. > > I guess I would hope that we teachers and artists are not simply, like > marketers, simply seeking and finding less and less critical "market > share" by teaching children. > > The political tensions in the schools, where most children still hold > the political beliefs of their parents, and in small towns in the west > and southwest, where those political beliefs are more likely than not to > be politically conservative and/or supported by military installations, > > creating a town and gown problem, or tensions between more liberal > faculty students attempt to please and more conservative parents > students also attempt to please, can hardly benefit high school and > younger students as much as "critical thinking" or "creative writing > technique" in general could. > > Based on my own experience, too -- I assumed a reading series at a chain > bookstore because the previous slam-based open mike, when the curator > went off his medication, became a weekly rowdy anti-war rant. Not all > bad, but not a poetry reading. -- I wonder at slam politics > (sloganeering, hardly nuanced poly sci) being supported in the schools > under the aegis of giving students self-confidence. What happened to > teaching art? > > All best, > Catherine Daly > cadaly@pacbell.net > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 16:39:28 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: chicagopostmodernpoetry.com is updated MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NEW AT CHICAGOPOSTMODERNPOETRY.COM New Poetic Profiles: Simone Muench, Brian Clements, Kerri Sonnenberg Chapbook Reviews: Reviews of Chapbooks by Jen Hofer, Joe Ahearn, and Simone Muench Chicago Readings Calendar is updated until October 2004, including scheduled future readings in our area by Brenda Iijima,Stacy Szymaszek, Amina Cain, Luba Halicki, Jennifer Karmin, Kathleen Duffy, Kelly Jackson, Robin Blaser, Susan Howe, Sawako Nakayasu, Mark Tardi, William Allegrezza, Dodie Bellamy, Louise Gluck, Diane Williams, Laura Sims, Special thanks to the Discrete Series and Woodland Pattern for getting me their schedules early.Please email me with any other event or readings. Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 17:40:44 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jonathan Penton Subject: political threat in the schools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen Vincent asked me to forward on his source for Bill Hill's = article (he's already posted two messages today). He found it at the = Daytona News, and can be viewed at = http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/Opinion/Editorials/03= OpO. -- Jonathan Penton http://www.unlikelystories.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:17:48 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kathleen Ossip Subject: Beyond Baroque reading Sunday May 30 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gretchen Mattox Deborah Landau Kathleen Ossip will read their poetry at Beyond Baroque next Sunday, May 30 at 7:30 p.m. at Beyond Baroque 681 Venice Boulevard Venice, CA. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:06:20 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: [gbbetts@yorku.ca] Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hey this kid, greggy betts, wants to be on the listserve. can someone shove him on? gbbetts@yorku.ca rob (slightly drunk -- poet/editor/pub. ... ed. STANZAS mag & side/lines: a new canadian poetics (Insomniac)...pub., above/ground press ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...8th coll'n - red earth (Black Moss) ...c/o RR#1 Maxville ON K0C 1T0 www.track0.com/rob_mclennan * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:50:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: eye passes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII eyes passes call you love call I've love going I've It's going eyes It's passes eyes this sure But passes But me have But broke have all broke for all you for me. emotion can keep emotion really keep more really that more sure that or creative could or writing this memories writing on memories me. on sure the see what. like see upset. like to upset. other to for other creative I me call But love have I've broke going all It's for eyes the could what. passes love me I've But going have It's broke eyes all passes for But you memories emotion on keep me. really sure more can that emotion sure you or keep this really writing more memories that on sure me. writing can or see could like the upset. what. to see other upset. 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Features Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SpiralBridge is proud beyond words to be featuring the most famous artist/poet of all time on our Featured Poet page, Anon. http://www.spiralbridge.org/home.asp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.SpiralBridge.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:52:47 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit my mother weighs 96 pounds her arms are thin as bird bones as she hectors me to eat more kugel .... on the drive home i rest my hands on the steering wheel & notice the liver spots against the empire's sky line.... early nite..a week to my 58th birthday..no rain...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:21:44 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit my aunt miriam shouts that everyone 'is all right except me' my uncle joe tells her to keep her voice down she shouts 'i'm not shouting'.... dry..humid...family romance..drn... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:38:58 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat In-Reply-To: <003d01c440f9$9f7efaf0$220110ac@CADALY> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Catherine, for some reason, I find myself more than a little alarmed by your response here: 1. I assume that the process of making any poem - at least on that rises above a prescribed rhetoric or expectation - engages critical strategies, as simple at why to use one word rather than another. This attention to words may naturally lead to critically examining words in text books, political speech, etc., etc., as measured against one's perceptions or collisions with the actual world. (Certainly anybody's reading of a range of writers - from Pound to Zukofksy and the objectivists or Muriel Rukeyser, or Audre Lorde, to name but a few, would certainly spur one to look and reexamine the immediate world). The fact that this critical collision - the critical reading of poetry and - from there - critically examining the Government may occur and provoke creative work and action that is in turn provocative seems to me to be an implicit part of the history of the medium. Co-incidentally, it's no accident that in Britain, the "new critics" of poetry became employed by British Intelligence for their brilliance in critically examining and interpreting the coded documents of Germans and spies. The fact that some became double agents for the Russians is another matter! Excuse me if, in my haste, I misunderstand your point here. I suspect - certainly it occurs in my own work - that the political realities of this particular time are going to encourage collisions between poetry and those folks and authorities who wish to enforce other views. I think to collaborate with a principal -such as the one portrayed in New Mexico - is at great risk and damage to both community and students. (Any of us who grew up during the McCarthyist years of the fifties will know this experience to the core). I am not sure - if I read you correctly - what you want to say about the connection and your aversion to Poetry Slams (and I assume by connection, "Hip hop") and how the phenomenon may or may not impact the teaching of poetry in the schools. (I am sure your "art" versus "slam poetry" frame will be offensive to serious practitioners of the latter). From my own, and I am sure others on this list who have taught in jails and City schools, hip-hop is often a launching place to both look at the work itself, as well as introduce other such highly formalized work into the classroom (say Theodore Roethke's work was loved in my experience.) In any case the language of hip-hop seems to me to be an inevitable part of anyone working in any school, prep, ghetto or otherwise - no matter the political or any other philosophical, religious, etc. point of view of the student poet/writer. The creative challenge - it strikes me - is to come up with a teaching process that engages and/or expands the many different boundaries, vernacular and "high culture", racial, conservative, radical. etc. and includes a process to question fixed or rhetorical views in the poems through a critical look at the strengths or weak points in the use of the language. There will always be hard hats among some, but I have always found that in the nature of any class, but not a reason to give up on students who value risk and change. Under your comment I sense your concern that some poets - in whatever level of school - are willfully using the occasion as a political platform to introduce the writing of poetry with a political cut to it - and not paying attention to all the other good basics - as well as the poet/teacher being entirely insensitive to the political bias' of the administrations and the communities (often conservative school boards) on whose financial and other support the schools depend. Common survival sense seems a good tool up to a point - yet when the Administration is a conscious or unconscious instrument of repression, such as the case in New Mexico - I would be alarmed by poets and teachers who do not figure out ways to challenge and resist. In all of this I think it's important to realize that these are very different and highly dangerous times - and work from there. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > I was alarmed by the dual use of the word "critical" in the forwarded > article. "Critical thinking" and "being critical of the government" are > not identical pursuits. > > I guess partially because I'm coming from a different place, too, with > my opinions on this matter. While I recognize the problem of arts in > the schools and free speech, I do wonder how, for very young children, > arts in the schools programs are encouraging certain types of critical > thinking and artistic responses. > > I guess I would hope that we teachers and artists are not simply, like > marketers, simply seeking and finding less and less critical "market > share" by teaching children. > > The political tensions in the schools, where most children still hold > the political beliefs of their parents, and in small towns in the west > and southwest, where those political beliefs are more likely than not to > be politically conservative and/or supported by military installations, > > creating a town and gown problem, or tensions between more liberal > faculty students attempt to please and more conservative parents > students also attempt to please, can hardly benefit high school and > younger students as much as "critical thinking" or "creative writing > technique" in general could. > > Based on my own experience, too -- I assumed a reading series at a chain > bookstore because the previous slam-based open mike, when the curator > went off his medication, became a weekly rowdy anti-war rant. Not all > bad, but not a poetry reading. -- I wonder at slam politics > (sloganeering, hardly nuanced poly sci) being supported in the schools > under the aegis of giving students self-confidence. What happened to > teaching art? > > All best, > Catherine Daly > cadaly@pacbell.net ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 02:29:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Color's Torrid Function! Subject: I started to, but then someone had said Comments: To: rhizome MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii play like these latitudes of pale blond throat longing across a counter and its integers, in some sullied get-up. The silt The silt The slit has its triplets, too: bound in gas and sagging with mist, she thinks nothing much happens when it gives off warmth, the muff unfurling like screams in a parking lot spotted with lollipops. These are commmercial ventures: a membrane like a seperate mutation, all the relational database theory he ever wanted was as remote from him as if he were flying over the ocean, and you keep wrapping up those sandwiches. All the sound in a spring night unnourished ===== *************************************************************************** This is as useful as a doll.--Gertrude Stein http://www.lewislacook.com/ Stamen Pistol: http://stamenpistol.blogspot.com/ Poem of the Day: http://www.lewislacook.com/POD Sidereality: http://www.sidereality.com/ tubulence artist studio: http://turbulence.org/studios/lacook/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 07:42:04 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: Silliman's Blog Comments: To: WOM-PO , BRITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, nanders1@swarthmore.edu, new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, whpoets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT TOPICS: Jeff Clark's Music & Suicide: FSG discredits the post-avant by publishing it How did my first engagement with the poetry community impact my poetry & life? (9 for 9 Poets Project, Question 5) Free Radicals: American Poets Before Their First Book -- A shocking, excellent anthology John Tipton's Surfaces - A jazz of balance Philip Metres' Primer for Non-Native Speakers -- A poetry in which Ted Berrigan & contemporary Russian influences converge & collide Generating narrative where it doesn't exist: Going from "card deck" to the page in the poetry of Lev Rubinstein, Robert Grenier & John Tipton Rigging poetry contests vs. assigning value -- getting in touch with our inner "Foetry" Why I use Blogger (with an aside on mail art) Dana Gioia: "I have noticed a lot of similarities between the military world & the literary world" -- Dear Dana.. 3 questions for the presidential debates http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:16:12 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Landers, Susan" Subject: Pom2 Accepting Submissions for Issue 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Send us work! POM2 is accepting submissions for Issue 5 through July 1. = =A0See guidelines below or at www.pompompress.com. We also seek one-color = cover design submissions from artists willing to provide work gratis in exchange for widespread fame. Please see the web site for previous cover designs to = get an idea of our aesthetic. If you are a writer, please pass this = opportunity on to your artist friends. POM2 publishes work that responds to poems previously published in the magazine. We encourage submissions from those who are willing to have = their work altered, lifted, plagiarized or transformed in later issues. Contributors may respond to one poem, or several, from any issue. (Issues 1-4 are available online.)=20 Please include with your submission:=20 (1) title of "source" poem(s),=20 (2) full contact information: phone, address, fax and e-mail,=20 (3) optional: a photograph of yourself. Submit no more than 5 poems. Electronically to: pom2@pompompress.com Subject line: wishbone PC or Mac attachments welcome Signed, the editors: Allison, Jen, Ethan & Sue ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:28:51 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Kelleher Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mike Kelleher Organization: Just Buffalo Literary Center Subject: JUST BUFFALO E-NEWSLETTER 5-24-04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IN THE HIBISCUS ROOM JUST ADDED: JUNKYARD BOOKS' LOWDOWN HIGHWAY TOUR Featuring Queer Spoken Word Artists Cooper Lee Bombardier and Len Plass, also featuring local queer writers and spoken word artists, including the ineluctable David Butler and the indefatigable Taunee Grant. Wednesday, June 2, 8 p.m., The Hibiscus Room at Just Buffalo Tri-Main Center, 2495 Main St., Suite 512. Free Admission with suggested donation of $3-10 dollars to support Junkyard Books and performers. Local artists interested in performing can call Mike Kelleher at Just Buffalo at 832-5400. The Show is a multimedia performance involving spoken word, slides and,music. Local artists are encouraged to join us as headliners or opening acts. Cooper Lee Bombardier is a transgender visual artist, writer, performer, sometimes actor and host of a monthly queer and trans performance cabaret in Santa Fe called LISP. Cooper has performed and shown visual art extensively in the Bay Area, and has performed across the country both with Sister Spit and by himself. He has spoken on panels of artists at events such as Hampshire College's Art And Social Change Conference in 2001, and was a featured artist in the 2001 National Queer Arts Festival. Len Plass grew from a sprout indifferent areas of Connecticut. She moved to Massachusetts in 1996 and, for a brief stint, attended Boston's Emerson College where she began performing spoken word. She then moved west, eventually to San Francisco where she owned and ran the Bearded Lady Cafe from 1999 until its closing in 2001. That same year, she co-founded Junkyard Books and is published in their debut anthology, Lowdown Highway. MEMBERSHIP CAMPAIGN SIGNED, LIMITED EDITION ROBERT CREELEY BROADSIDE AVAILABLE As part of the spring membership campaign, Just Buffalo is offering a special membership gift to the first fifty people who join at a level of $50 or more after May 1. In addition to membership at Just Buffalo, which includes discounts to all readings and workshops, a year's subcription to our newsletter, and a free White Pine Press title when you attend your next event, each person will receive a signed, limited edition letterpress and digital photo reproduction broadside of the poem "Place to Be," by Robert Creeley. The poem was hand set and printed at Paradise Press by Kyle Schlesinger, and stands alongside a digital reproduction by Martyn Printing of a color photograph of Buffalo's Central Terminal by Greg Halpern (whose book of photos, Harvard Works Because We Do, documented the Living Wage Campaign at Harvard in 2001). Send check or money order to the address at the bottom of this email, or call us at 832-5400 to use your credit card. WORKSHOPS WORKSHOP ON EXPERIMENTAL POETRY with Jorge Guitart 4 Saturdays July 10, 17, 24, and 31, 10 a.m -12 p.m. in The Hibiscus Room at Just Buffalo $100, $90 members, individual classes $30, $25 members If you are tired of the trite and expected in the poetry of others or your own, try your hand at playing with language in a serious, organized way. Let randomness and unusual combinatory procedures get you started in creating lines that no one could possibly have uttered or written before. Bring poetry back to being a most unusual collocation of words. Let the poem write you instead of the other way. Embark on the pleasures of intertextuality, stealing from famous texts and subverting their intentions. You will be introduced to techniques that will help you create hundreds if not thousands of amazing poems in a relatively short time. Jorge Guitart teaches in the Department of Romance Languages and Literatures at UB. He has been a member of JBLC Writers in Education since 1984 and has led poetry workshops in Buffalo public schools. He is the author of Foreigner's Notebook (Shuffaloff 1993) and Film Blanc (Meow Press 1996). He is represented at UB's Electronic Poetic Center. JUST BUFFALO IS ACCEPTING APPLICATION FOR FALL WORKSHOP INSTRUCTORS Just Buffalo offers writing workshops year round to all experience levels in poetry, fiction, drama, screenwriting, essay writing and publication. We are looking for published writers to teach workshops in the Fall of 2004. Courses can be single day courses, or they can meet once a week for two, four, six or eight weeks. They can meet evenings during the week or Saturday mornings. Please send a cover letter, resume, and course description to Workshop Application, Just Buffalo Literary Center, 2495 Main St., Ste 512, Buffalo, NY 14214 or email it to Mike Kelleher at mjk@justbuffalo.org. SPOKEN ARTS RADIO W/ Mary Van Vorst 6:35 a.m. and 8:35 a.m. Thursdays and 8:35 a.m. Sundays on WBFO 88.7 FM June 3 & 6 N'Tare Ali Gault (Editor of Njozi Magazine) July 8 & 11 Lee Stinger (Author of _Grand Central Winter_ and _Sleepaway School_) Lee Stinger will also be doing a book signing at Talking Leaves Books on July 16. _______________________________ Mike Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center 2495 Main St., Ste. 512 Buffalo, NY 14214 716.832.5400 716.832.5710 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk@justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:38:36 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: Open question for George Bowering (and everyone else). Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Andrew, the Hafler Trio (andrew mckenzie) has just re-released a bunch of older recordings (like kill the king and how to refoem mankind) plus there's a bunch of 7"'s that andrew's been putting out 'cause he had to go to the hospital and is trying to raise money for surgery. newish stuff... the warp label in the UK is reissuing a ton of older material but the newer shit like squarepusher's "do you know squarepusher" and two lone swordsman's "faux" are phenomenal, one more minimal than the other but equally as enticing, sonically profound. lfo's "sheath" is too much for words, it's electro gone back to school, with a shirt and tie undone. check out the video for freak: go to warprecords.com, search for lfo's sheath and check out the video from the link: it's almost debilitating. That's all I got for you if yr gonna stick to In D rock. Chris -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:38:45 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: Open question for George Bowering (and everyone else). Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Andrew, the Hafler Trio (andrew mckenzie) has just re-released a bunch of older recordings (like kill the king and how to reform mankind) plus there's a bunch of 7"'s that andrew's been putting out 'cause he had to go to the hospital and is trying to raise money for surgery. newish stuff... the warp label in the UK is reissuing a ton of older material but the newer shit like squarepusher's "do you know squarepusher" and two lone swordsman's "faux" are phenomenal, one more minimal than the other but equally as enticing, sonically profound. lfo's "sheath" is too much for words, it's electro gone back to school, with a shirt and tie undone. check out the video for freak: go to warprecords.com, search for lfo's sheath and check out the video from the link: it's almost debilitating. That's all I got for you if yr gonna stick to In D rock. Chris -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 08:53:14 CDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: damon001 Subject: Re: Vision Festival Errata MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII knock 'em dead, gfriend. sorry can't be there... On 20 May 2004, Adeena Karasick wrote: > My performance opening nite is > > TUESDAY, MAY 25 > 8:00 pm ish > > ((NOT THURSDAY)) > > sorry.. > hope to still see you, > best, > Adeena > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:24:41 CDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: damon001 Subject: Re: intro to creative writing Comments: To: antrobin@clipper.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII the secret life of words: poetry exercises and activities for grades 3-6, but good for beyond that as well, by betsy franco and yours truly On 22 May 2004, Anthony Robinson wrote: > For an intro poetry workshop, I've had great success > with Kenneth Koch's "Making Your Own Days" > > Tony > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year > http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:24:18 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Experts Confirm Ass Press Claims Berg Beheading A Fraud Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Click here: The Assassinated Press=20 Recidivist Democracy: Leonel Fern=E1ndez ; His Second Time Around: Promoting the American Way Helped The New York -Reared President Help Himsel= f=20 To $100,000,000 In His First Term In '96. But This Time He Faces Far More=20 Daunting Numbers To Pilfer; Under U.S. Tutelage The Dominican Republic Ranks Far Behind Castro's Cuba In= =20 Every Essential Category: Haiti Off U.S. Media Screen Since Kidnapping Of Aristide; Under New U.S.=20 Puppets Reaches Such Unimaginable Depths of Degradation And Humiliation That= Many=20 American Interrogators Now Holiday There: by Yaso Adiodi=20 Medical Experts Confirm Ass Press Claims Berg Beheading A Fraud: No Way, Say Medical Experts: "Staged" Says Noted Surgeon: by Ritt Goldstein=20 =20 They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose.=20 ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in=20 the=20 sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful=20 language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or=20 hypocritical,=20 whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating= =20 impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poure= d=20 forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter= =20 house. =20 One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first=20 giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." =20 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:16:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: This Weekend! Comments: To: wendy low , walterblue@EARTHLINK.NET, vital@staalplaat.com, vital@radiantslab.com, Tom Rywick , Tom Rywick , Thom Ward , The Schubmehls of Oakbend , Terry Diggory , Talan Memmott <_talan@memmott.org>, Talan Memmott , Steven Shoemaker , Sherman Jewett , RSchnoop@aol.com, Rjecomm@nycapp.rr.com, rjecomm@nycap.rr.com, Ram Devineni , ralph black , Pierre Joris , Paul_Austerlitz@brown.edu, peaceworks1@juno.com, Pat Schwartz , obsidian@social.chass.ncsu.edu, nudel-soho@mindspring.com, Nuyopoman@aol.com, Norman/Davis , Nick DeChario , Nate Dorward , Nancy Harris , Mike Kane , Michael Kane , melrod , mark.genovese@nysna.org, Mark Genovese , Mark Genovese , Maria Damon , "Margy Snyder & Bob Holman - About.com Poetry Guide" , Mairead Byrne , mail@franklinfurnace.org, M Rosenthal , lewis lacook , Len Messineo , Lee Gurga , lawrence.upton@britishlibrary.net, Laurie Cubbison , "K.Angelo Hehir" , Jonny Taylor , John Tranter , Joe Tunis , Jen Kehoe , Jeffrey Jullich , jcentore@a-znet.com, Jane Dickerson , jamesplastiras@hotmail.com, jaffe@lgjaffe.com, jackie@ncpr.org, ir1377@csc.albany.edu, hruggier@localnet.com, horowitz@bard.edu, Halvard Johnson , Gilbert Purdy , George Simmers , Geoffrey Gatza , furniture_ press , donna_m_marbach@rochester.rr.com, donna_m_marbach@hotmail.com, "Donna M. Marbach" , devineni@dialoguepoetry.org, Deborah Russell , Colleen_Ryan@Hotmail.CC, Colleen Ryan , Claudia Stanek , Christopher McDermott , chris lacinak , Camille Martin , Brandon Barr , Brandon Barr , Birgitta Jonsdottir , bchadabe@capital.net, baratier@megsinet.net, Antonio Sassu , Anastasios Kozaitis , Alan Sondheim , ALVIN B AUBERT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Come out and see and hear us! Cheers, Gerald Schwartz FUSIONARTS MUSEUM & STEVE SWELL (for more info: www.home.earthlink.net/~sdswell/ present 3rd Monthly MUSIC IN THE AFTERNOON SATURDAY, MAY 29 3PM--ANDREW DRURY GROUP Taylor Ho Bynum, Adam Lane 4PM--RAS MOSHES' MUSIC NOW! 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(between forsyth and eldridge, 1 block below houston, f train to 2nd avenue) $10 ADMISSION ----- FREE REFRESHMENTS!!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:48:05 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Open question for George Bowering (and everyone else). MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, thanks for the Warp Records tip - I don't know about debilitating (maybe my speakers aren't as good as yours), but definately fun ( also - I hadn't intended to limit choices to "in D" rock or any other genre - just newish stuff as opposed to say classic hard bop, the gory days of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and so on). Thanks though, and Michael, if you're keen on lightning bolt, someone put up a great movie/video they made for a track [(23 March posting): http://www.livejournal.com/community/ride_the_skies/]. Aren't they amazing - the most liberating noise four arms and four legs are capable of - and a bass strung with two bass strings and a banjo string to boot. They make McCaffreyite and Bokian sound poets sound like choir boys. Hail minimalism! Die puny minimalism! ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:50:09 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ian VanHeusen Subject: June 2 in Saratoga Springs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed & rumor is maybe poets Indigo and Logorythmns... but that is just a rumor. >The First Wednesday of Every Month Caffe Lena Presents >Poetry Open Mic: > >Wednesday, June 2 >Caffe Lena Poetry Open Mic >sign ups start at 7pm, readings at 7:30 >$2 >Featured Readers: >Emily Pastel & Ian VanHeusen >sample poems and bios follow > >Hosted by Carol Graser >Caffe Lena, 47 Phila St. Saratoga Springs >583-0022 www.caffelena.com > > >Emily Pastel currently resides in Cambridge, Massachusettes where she plays >foursquare, volunteers at a radical book store, studies visual >anthropology at >Boston University. Emily has always been interested in poetry as a >versatile >art form, and particularly enjoys its expression as an evocative rather >than >representational system of communication. In 2001, Emily helped form the >monthly "slam" at Albany High School, and has performed at many venues >since then in >the Albany and Boston areas. > >Emily Pastel'ssample poem: > >I know that art comes first because you are a walking, talking exhibitation >of artness.Yes, the way you dress is so aesthetic let's call it >"postfashion" >because you are not a trend, nor an interpretation of somebody else's >theory... >I know that art comes first because you draw the heart first, and the "A" >second, and the second in between represents the time it takes to act on >instinct >(or something better)--I want to be an educated Id, interactions based on >choice, not circumstance (and I choose you, artthinker, to be to) >...and yeah, so I know fo' sho' that there is no such thing as 'boring >art.' >Because that's just decoration, like a bracelet--it's the X bloody and >stinking like an infection of the palm of the cunt of the heart/ stop the >clotting >and let the blood flow...slowly at first, into my fist so in five years if >I'm >not by you you'll still flow through my fingers my feet my eyes/ so when I >look, the world will be red--like it's Judgement Day, and all my sins will >wash >away 'till I'm left as naked and sacred as your voice when you say that sex >is >the only holy thing... >...I mean, I know that though you are no cut you are so cool, I'd >bring you in for show and tell if I knew you in first grade and I'd tell >my best friend about you if I had one and I'll try to have fun when >you're not here (so there's no fear) and I'll try/I'll try/ I'll try to be >better--'cuz why not, if I can't nothing's lost and I'll try not to >misplace my thoughts because about you they are so good, I just >can't get the words straight. Like, "all I create is dying"--like my >broken bike/ like my broken verse--no meter measures up to >conversation when you are concerned. That's too one-sided, >and art is best when it's a dialogue/ I know that art comes first, and >I just want to lay it before you, like an offering for an emperor but >without the empire. OK, forget the hierarchy imagery: I want to >supplement your artness like the first kiss for a forgotten story, >suddenly brought to life and smiling >****************************************************************************** >******************* >Ian VanHeusen's sample poem: > >Buried in a beginning, the poem starts >with every line > >there are one thousand names for midnight >or rather there are as many movements > >as if this word was in all of those directions > >he is crazy moon >breathing the deep sigh for each >turning as it dances the night >with a different dream >he is drunk with an ecstasy that will never be his > and chants three words of longing > that come down like rain & though the waters rise and fall about him > his closed eyes remain fixed on those rythmns > pulsating > >how they spin around our lives in gestures of the absurd >reality of distance instead of a song of bright morning >they say the darkest hour is right before the dawn > >he is cloaked in passion that awakes >his voice in the echo of the midnight fog. > >& then there is this one >this one is aloud without saying a word >in the city, the stars drown & in this one my soul >wandered in a thousand midnight movement > >It found no rest in the high one, >who stirred beneath a crazy moon, >& the waters of life breathe up and down >in it to this night a lover >chants that cutting symbol >which opens the shadow of an oak tree > >what is that? She points at the breaks in its trunk. Thats a vagina > and that is her arched back >& like water >now we turn another night >& now the moon burns full > >and this is the night with a window made of rain >it is a river with our tears >they come down with a rhythm of patterns burned >into the very fabric of the humid air of this hour > >this 1000 flower bloomed in my ear >because when our days are filled with a waking nightmare >our nights become like a mist to rest our eyes >lady lend me your dance >& with the crazy movement of our impossible joy >light these days with fire >& breath me fire love >& keep that light from the storms window >it has been running with our tears > but my night is in your hip >because my day was filled with nothing but madness. > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:53:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vernon Frazer Subject: China Comments: To: Acousticlv@aol.com, arleenbentley@attbi.com, Barrywal23@aol.com, rgd730@yahoo.com, Nuyopoman@aol.com, Bob@lopezbooks.com, brian berman , bjohnson@flynncenter.org, boojumhaus@yahoo.com, cat52157@aol.com, chris@tsa.org.uk, Gya@aol.com, Ventorpent@prodigy.net, monkeymeet1@juno.com, Dia Winograd , Don Webb , Elena Santa Maria , Flash , Foster Edward , Fossyl@aol.com, Gerald Schwartz , jadecar@attglobal.net, jjames3@cfl.rr.com, jshea@arrl.org, jchace@planetcable.net, Joel Weishaus , John Bryan , "John Colagrande Jr." , John DeCarolis , John Lowther , jmcclure@rci.rutgers.edu, Jonathan Penton , xstream@xpressed.org, kataubert@prodigy.net, Kirpalg@aol.com, editor@whiteowlweb.com, lcarradini@earthlink.net, Lucas Klein , Luke Buckham , onyxvelvet@aol.com, onyxvelvet@aol.com, managingeditor@sidereality.com, Mark Surawski , Mary Carfagna , artchive@msn.com, Mycreaux@aol.com, Smderosa@erols.com, horowitz@bard.edu, Maine@Netsense.net, Paul_Austerlitz@brown.edu, Paul Poletz , "Shankar, Ravi" , ric@isp.com, richryal@mindspring.com, schuyler hoffman , brennan_scott@hotmail.com, shemurph@cox.net, Stephen-Paul Martin , Steve Dalachinsaky , griswold@mail.hartford.edu, Wiliam Allegrezza , Austinwja@AOL.COM, wszyman@worldnet.att.net, zipsil@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Elaine and I are leaving tomorrow for China. We expect to return in a month, although we don't know the exact date yet. Because of our last-minute packing frenzy, I might not have time to reply if you write. If you have any literary matters or other messages, you can mail me and I'll take care of matters when I get home. Best, Vernon ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:02:25 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Queer Constellations; Subcultural Space in the Wake of the City MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Given recent discussions of Benjamin, Stephen Vincent’s Walking Theories, etc, I thought I’d plug a new (U of Minnesota Press) book by the prof. who first introduced me to Benjamin, urbanism, etc (she let me do my Honors thesis on situationist theory in practice - walking around downtown edmonton trying to detourn things . . . ) Queer Constellations Subcultural Space in the Wake of the City Dianne Chisholm Discovers parallels between modern gay and lesbian views of urban life and Benjamin’s Paris, “the capital of the nineteenth century.” Queer Constellations investigates the dreams and catastrophes of recent urban history viewed through new queer narratives of inner-city life. The “gay village,” “gay mecca,” “gai Paris,” the “lesbian flaneur,” the “lesbian bohème”—these and other urban phantasmagoria feature paradoxically in this volume as figures of revolutionary utopia and commodity spectacle, as fossilized archetypes of social transformation and ruins of haunting cultural potential. Dianne Chisholm introduces readers to new practices of walking, seeing, citing, and remembering the city in works by Neil Bartlett, Samuel Delany, Robert Glück, Alan Hollinghurst, Gary Indiana, Eileen Myles, Sarah Schulman, Gail Scott, Edmund White, and David Wojnarowicz. Reading these authors with reference to the history, sociology, geography, and philosophy of space, particularly to the everyday avant-garde production and practice of urban space, Chisholm reveals how—and how effectively—queer narrative documentary resembles and reassembles Walter Benjamin’s constellations of Paris, “capital of the nineteenth century.” Considering experimental queer writing in critical conjunction with Benjamin’s city writing, the book shows how a queer perspective on inner-city reality exposes contradictions otherwise obscured by mythic narratives of progress. If Benjamin regards the Paris arcade as a microcosm of high capitalism, wherein the (un)making of industrial society is perceived retrospectively, in contemporary queer narrative we see the sexually charged and commodity-entranced space of the gay bathhouse as a microcosm of late capitalism and as an exemplary site for excavating the contradictions of mass sex. In Chisholm’s book we discover how, looking back on the ruins of queer mecca, queer authors return to Benjamin to advance his “dialectics of seeing”; how they cruise the paradoxes of market capital, blasting a queer era out of the homogeneous course of history. Dianne Chisholm is professor of English at the University of Alberta and the author of H. D.’s Freudian Poetics: Psychoanalysis in Translation. from the upress blurb] ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 05:21:55 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Platt Subject: Loreography MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. with the unreliability of government transparent mending tape red cotton colored copy of the original mechanical workings of every moving way with techniques to avoid everything you need to know as case studies to demonstrate tens and hundreds of times sites as well as diaries the most powerful people in blending them with significant events along with numerous amusing anecdotes available for convenient everyday use self-tests at the end 2. are looking for how much listings and where to buy and properties that are common to create beautiful images effortlessly the amazing story of woman with thousands of new words for important and famous people been brought up to date food ice-cream cake chocolate and the atrocities he saw the field the tactical challenges do-it-yourself treatments for artists and a fascinating narrative uprooted from homelands and marched ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:15:34 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Schlesinger Subject: Berlin? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the fall of 2004, I will be living and writing in Berlin, and would = like to learn more about poetic activity in and around the city. = Recommendations for reading series, bookshops, libraries, etc. would all = be of interest, as well as the possibly enrolling in a seminar. I am a = printer and poet, currently writing on the artists' book, and would be = interested in visiting any small press or book arts = operations/collectives. My thanks in advance! Kyle Kyle Schlesinger Cuneiform Press 383 Summer Street Buffalo, NY 14213 ks46@buffalo.edu http://www.cuneiformpress.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:56:29 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kazim Ali Subject: Re: intro to creative writing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In the spirit of "This is not a textbook" books that are amazing as textbooks: "Rocks on a Platter" by Barbara Guest "How to Do Things With Words" by Joan Retallack "The Non-conformist's Memorial" by Susan Howe "Grapefruit" by Yoko Ono "The Vertical Interrogation of Strangers" by Bhanu Kapil Rider "The Fifth Book of Peace" by Maxine Hong Kingston "Fault Lines" by Meena Alexander Each of these books of poetry and prose willfully engages the process of making within the work of art itself to greater or lesser or differing degrees. The last two are prose. Not in terms of difficulty of text but in terms of ease in seeing as a teaching tool the Retallack, Guest, and Kingston books are easiest to draw lessons and/or discussion topics from; the Howe book is great and perhaps for students who are doing interdisciplinary work: history, art, etc. The Ono, Rider, and Alexander books are all from very very very different literary aesthetic positions and might promote dynamic discussion. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has taught using any of these books. --- Mairead Byrne wrote: > This is not a textbook but it's a great book for > Intro to Creative > Writing: Joe Brainard's I REMEMBER. > Mairead > > > > Mairéad Byrne > Assistant Professor of English > Rhode Island School of Design > Providence, RI 02903 > www.wildhoneypress.com > www.maireadbyrne.blogspot.com > >>> walterblue@EARTHLINK.NET 05/22/04 13:03 PM >>> > A friend teaching Intro to Creative Writing in the > Fall and is supposed > to be ordering books now. She's wondering if anyone > can recommend hip > unpredictable books on that subject. Title? > > Michael > > > > Michael Rothenberg > walterblue@bigbridge.org > Big Bridge > www.bigbridge.org ===== ==== WAR IS OVER (if you want it) (e-mail president@whitehouse.gov) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:57:33 -0400 Reply-To: cartograffiti@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "cartograffiti@mindspring.com" Subject: Re: Berlin? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Original Message: ----------------- From: Schlesinger ks46@ACSU=2EBUFFALO=2EEDU Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:15:34 -0500 To: POETICS@LISTSERV=2EBUFFALO=2EEDU Subject: Berlin? In the fall of 2004, I will be living and writing in Berlin, and would lik= e to learn more about poetic activity in and around the city=2E Recommendati= ons for reading series, bookshops, libraries, etc=2E would all be of interest,= as well as the possibly enrolling in a seminar=2E I am a printer and poet, currently writing on the artists' book, and would be interested in visitin= g any small press or book arts operations/collectives=2E My thanks in advance! Kyle Kyle Schlesinger Cuneiform Press 383 Summer Street Buffalo, NY 14213 ks46@buffalo=2Eedu http://www=2Ecuneiformpress=2Ecom/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:30:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Richard Flynn Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat In-Reply-To: <00da01c4410e$29041ee0$1c290e18@attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A colleague on the children's literature listserv I belong to forwarded this information about a fundraiser for Bill Nevins:. http://aaf.virtualactivism.net/AAF.Poetic.Justice.Press.Release.Final.8.24.0 3.htm The main page of the Alliance for Academic Freedom has more information: http://aaf.virtualactivism.net/ Richard Flynn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:16:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Richard Flynn Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you'd like to read the offending student poem, titled "Revolution X" you will find it in this article from AAUP's *Academe*: http://www.aaup.org/publications/Academe/2004/04jf/04jfsotp.htm Well, that's my 2 posts for today. RF -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Richard Flynn Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:31 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat A colleague on the children's literature listserv I belong to forwarded this information about a fundraiser for Bill Nevins:. http://aaf.virtualactivism.net/AAF.Poetic.Justice.Press.Release.Final.8.24.0 3.htm The main page of the Alliance for Academic Freedom has more information: http://aaf.virtualactivism.net/ Richard Flynn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:17:37 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Ancient Anti-war gems: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit War is sweet to those who have not tried it. The experienced man is frightened at the heart to see it advancing. Pindar of Thebes, Circa 400 B.C. Epitaph Traveler, take this word to the men of Lakedaimon: We who lie buried here did what they told us to do. Simonides of Ceos, Circa 400 B.C Translated by Richard Lattimore ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:25:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: E. L. DoctoROWL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What horrible (truthful?) thing did=20 E.L. Doctorow say to those students at=20 the Hofstra commencement? I know something, but what? Thank you. Gerald Schwartz ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:11:41 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Corina Copp Subject: Genya Turovskaya Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Does anyone have Genya Turovskaya's email....Please please please?! Thanks---Cori ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:40:19 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Color's Torrid Function! Subject: Spring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greenery fits like a girl in a beige dress saving the air around herself for later when the hours swell, pulse with a bloody honey of dusk supper and mantra of distant bells. She might have a garden of windchimes in her throat, and could breathe you ostinato with tremulous barefoot formals. The girls here wear their bellies in their faces, Mom, and you smell of them long after prom. Months crystal to powder on my fingers. White tongues and showers. ===== *************************************************************************** This is as useful as a doll.--Gertrude Stein http://www.lewislacook.com/ Stamen Pistol: http://stamenpistol.blogspot.com/ Poem of the Day: http://www.lewislacook.com/POD Sidereality: http://www.sidereality.com/ tubulence artist studio: http://turbulence.org/studios/lacook/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:47:57 -0400 Reply-To: Millie Niss Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Millie Niss Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haas Bianchi" >It has been my experience that the kids are served > best when I > > 1) give them the best poetry possible to read, this means, Neruda, Williams, > Pound, Lorca, Whitman, HD, Mistral, Paz. and that the poetry is not watered > down if they get 30% of it at least they get 30% of greatness and not 100% > of crap. > > 2) I demand excellence from them these kids;they are not lauded and they > need to be, but by actually creating excellence spelling correctly, using > language well. > > 3) Making sure that the children are required to actually interact with > language and grow. I also teach disadvantaged people, but not through the schools-- I lead a workshop at the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, and also sometimes teach mentally ll people online. I agree with Hans on how people are best served. I bring in good, supposedly difficult poems for my students to read, and this improves their writing, in turn. I git this idea from Kenneth Koch, who taught his college classes that way (making us imitate and read difficult poets), and who had also taught kids and nursing home residents in a similar way. He apparently started by bringing "easy" poetry when he did poetry outreach to these kinds of groups, but then found that the students wrote much better if they were exposed to "real" poetry, even if they didn't understand everything about it. Another related lesson from Koch was that poetry isn't written to be analyzed, it's written to be enjoyed. And if analyzing it increases your enjoyment, that's great, but ut's also ok to like a poem without understanding it. And if you are a writer, you can take apart poetry by figuring out what the poet did to make the poem enjoyable (in terms of craftsmanship) rather than through the eyes of academic criticism. What's interesting is that that down-to-earth attitude lead to me increased interest in analyzing poetry, because once I got the idea of enjoying poetry, I wanted to learn everything i could about it. I had not been a great poetry fan in high school, where poems were presented as if they always had "hidden themes" and the object was to decipher the metaphors to get at the themes Koch use dto say that there are only a very limited number of themes for poems (such as "I love you", "I am scared of dying", "our ancestors were brave", "I believe in God", "I believe in rebelling" etc.) and that the point of the poem is what it does woth language, not the theme (which is always trite... People know when they are being talked down to, and appreciate it when people respect them and teach in a way that challenges them rather than saying everything they do is wonderful in an uncritical way. Millie ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:53:07 -0400 Reply-To: patrick@proximate.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Herron Subject: Carrboro Poetry Festival in less than two weeks...June 5 & 6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( The Carrboro Poetry Festival is only two weekends away http://carrboropoetryfestival.org )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) The Carrboro Poetry Festival, to be held June 5 and 6 at the Carrboro Century Center in the heart of downtown Carrboro, North Carolina, will feature readings from 40 poets. Renowned North Carolina poets Carl Martin, Gerald Barrax, Jaki Shelton Green, Jeffrey Beam, John Balaban, and shirlette ammons will read their poetry along with some of America's best younger poets--Brian Henry (editor of Verse and founder of Verse Press), Linh Dinh (anthologized in Best American Poetry 2000 and the editor and co-translator of Night Again: Contemporary Fiction from Vietnam), K. Silem Mohammad (author of Hovercraft and Deer Head Nation), and Lee Ann Brown (Charlotte native and winner of the New American Poetry Prize). The festival is co-sponsored by the Town of Carrboro, The Independent Weekly, The Town of Carrboro Art Committee, and Carrboro Poet Laureate Patrick Herron, the organizer of the event. Admission is FREE. (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Helpful links ------------- Complete list of poets: http://tinyurl.com/2nfot Reading schedule: http://tinyurl.com/2mhj7 Map your route: http://tinyurl.com/35v6m Parking: http://tinyurl.com/329rq (all links automatically lead to the CPF website; they have been shortened for easier e-mailing) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Specifics: Saturday June 05 10:30 AM - 4:30 PM Sunday June 6 12:30 PM - 9:00 PM Carrboro Century Center 100 N. Greensboro St. Carrboro, NC 27510 (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Patrick Herron patrick@carrboropoetryfestival.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:02:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stefani Bardin Subject: Re: Berlin? In-Reply-To: <001701c441bb$1c4525c0$15b61743@administpii39e> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Kyle. I'll be starting in the Media Studies graduate program at Buffalo in August so I'm not sure if our time will overlap but I lived in the Mitte section of Berlin for a few months in 2001/2002. I still know people there and some interesting places to look into - mostly visual arts oriented. Drop me a line if you want to chat more in depth. Best, Stefani Bardin ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:34:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stefani Bardin Subject: Re: Berlin? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit UB Poetics discussion group writes: >Hi Kyle. > >I'll be starting in the Media Studies graduate program at Buffalo in August so I'm not sure if our time will overlap but I lived in the Mitte section of Berlin for a few months in 2001/2002. I still know people there and some interesting places to >look into - mostly visual arts oriented. Drop me a line if you want to chat more in depth. > >Best, > >Stefani Bardin Meant to backchannel to Kyle. Sorry. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:54:45 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I backchanneled a somewhat too cursory reply to this & have now lost it; I have no access to phone or e 12 hrs/day at one of my new jobs the jist, tho, was that I feel that you haven't understood what I am trying to say; I am not slamming slam poets, I am slamming the pedagogy and politics of those poetry teachers who choose not to teach reading and writing poetry -- I know that many of my students slam really well, but have no idea how to write a sentence, for example; I am aware this is a formalist argument, but there it is. Let's have more politics of grammar. Hardly a rousing slogan. I still think sensitive and tolerant guardianship and teaching of people under 18, most of whom are living in households the heads of which hold right wing or conservative political and religious views, is not the same as collusion with instruments of oppression, and literary criticism is not criticism of the government is not critical thinking. 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Nikuko speaks: I Nikuko ships. ships. http://www.asondheim.org/thewash.jpg eyes passes call you love call I've love going I've It's going eyes It's passes eyes memories emotion on keep me. eyes passes It's eyes going memories on other upset. eyes broke It's have going But I've me love passes you sure emotion that keep on emotion memories can writing me. upset. on memories writing this or creative I other to upset. upset. __ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 01:50:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: power and glory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII power and glory http://www.asondheim.org/sweep.jpg interpretation of power and glory http://www.asondheim.org/artistic.jpg _ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 01:46:59 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christine Murray Subject: Re: intro to creative writing Comments: cc: "antrobin@clipper.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, Tony, & All-- For a great source: check out Hoa Nguyen's site at Teachers and Writers--it's way beyond wonderful: http://www.writenet.org/virtualpoetrywrkshp.html Also, Kristen Prevallet's book, *Scratch Sides* (Skanky Possum, 2002), is excellent for all kinds of critical-thinking-toward-writing: I've used it in both critical prose/essay writing, and creative writing/poetry classes here at UTA. And my students had some good success with a few exercises I devised to go with a composite contemporary poetry course I taught this past spring semester--I'd be glad to discuss the course, the exercises, and the above texts. Email me if you'd like. Cheers, Chris Murray http://texfiles.blogspot.com http://www.uta.edu/english/znine ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:50:10 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: terrie relf Subject: Re: intro to creative writing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for this site! It's wonderful...I'm going to refer some of my students to it as well. Ter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Murray" To: Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:46 PM Subject: Re: intro to creative writing > Hi, Tony, & All-- > > For a great source: check out Hoa Nguyen's site at Teachers and > Writers--it's way beyond wonderful: > > http://www.writenet.org/virtualpoetrywrkshp.html > > Also, Kristen Prevallet's book, *Scratch Sides* (Skanky Possum, 2002), is > excellent for all kinds of critical-thinking-toward-writing: I've used it in > both critical prose/essay writing, and creative writing/poetry classes here > at UTA. > > And my students had some good success with a few exercises I devised to go > with a composite contemporary poetry course I taught this past spring > semester--I'd be glad to discuss the course, the exercises, and the above > texts. Email me if you'd like. > > > Cheers, > > Chris Murray > > http://texfiles.blogspot.com > http://www.uta.edu/english/znine ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 01:55:33 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Poetry in The Schools, political threat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit these times are different than what time only because you live here in this time does this time this time seem so different & dangerous from any other time for us certainly now ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 02:31:12 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Queer Constellations; Subcultural Space in the Wake of the City MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit detour(n)ing's good lighning bolt's loud lp's are ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 02:00:18 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i sit out the pop-up storm listening to 'le gaiete parisienne' on the car radio le palm d'or libertie fraternitie stupidity.... sometime in the gulliotine nite....porquoi..drn... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:46:45 -0400 Reply-To: richard.j.newman@verizon.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Richard Jeffrey Newman Subject: Poetry in The Schools, political threat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Catherine Daly wrote: >>I am slamming the pedagogy and politics of those poetry teachers who choose not to teach reading and writing poetry<< It's important to point out that such teachers exist in all fields and on both the right and the left. >>I know that many of my students slam really well, but have no idea how to write a sentence, for example; I am aware this is a formalist argument, but there it is. Let's have more politics of grammar. Hardly a rousing slogan.<< Not only is it hardly rousing, but there are a lot of people who identify such sentiments with right-wing politics, educational and otherwise. It's worth thinking about something Sam Hamill wrote in "Orthodox, Heterodox, Paradox" from his book A Poet's Work: "Grammar is no more than a logical organization for the presentation of thoughts and feelings. "Structure," [Wendell] Berry says, "is intelligibility." And, "A sentence is both the opportunity and limit of thought-what we have to think with, and what we have to think in. It is, moreover, a feelable thought, a thought that impresses its sense not just on our understanding, but on our hearing, our sense of rhythm and proportion. It is a pattern of felt sense." To permit our schools to neglect the study of grammar is to deny our children the opportunity to explore the limits of their own thoughts and feelings." >>literary criticism is not criticism of the government is not critical thinking<< Fair enough, but they are very, very closely related, and it is crucial, I think, to point out that, even if Bill Nevins-the guy whose situation originally started this conversation-is someone who teaches his own politics rather than the "reading and writing [of] poetry," what has been done to him is still disturbing on its face and profoundly terrifying as a potential harbinger of things to come. Rich Newman _____ Richard Newman Associate Professor, English Chair, International Studies Committee Nassau Community College One Education Drive Garden City, NY 11530 O: (516) 572-7612 F: (516) 572-8134 newmanr@ncc.edu www.ncc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:40:40 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'easy over' "no" "sunny side up" 'oh' old chinese men outdistance my bum knee 'round Tmpks Sq Pk 7a breakfast special cost 3.50 up from pre-yup 1.99 old chinese women bend to chi-quoung under 100 yr old spread elm big dog fast run past the grammar for spring.... goin' back to sleep..8:00...up too many hrs...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:03:42 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: LA-area: Glendale, CA: Writers & Teachers TONIGHT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Writers & Teachers Series, Barnes & Noble Glendale Co-curated by Catherine Daly and Margaret Wang, featuring local poetry teachers reading with and introducing their students. This month's reading: Poet and CSUN Professor, Joseph Thomas, with students, Hazel D. Sonanes, Karina Souto, & Brad Torti. Tuesday, May 25th, 7:30pm Barnes & Noble Glendale 245 N. Glendale Blvd. Glendale, CA 91206 All best, Catherine Daly cadaly@pacbell.net ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 11:51:57 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Martha L Deed Subject: Congratulations to Brenda Coultas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2004 Poetry Society Awards announcement arrived in the mail today. A familiar name connected to a wonderful book, which I had just purchased: Brenda Coultas won the Norma Farber First Book Award, judged by Lyn Hejinian. The book? A Handmade Museum. A richly-deserved award, and I hope I am not pre-empting someone else's announcement to let you know. If other Poetics list members are on the PSA list, my apologies. I hope someone will announce them as well. Martha Deed ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:48:16 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Walking Theories. In-Reply-To: <20040523083604.56938.qmail@web51502.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Andrew: Somehow, your post regarding the book on Cities, Queer space et al, got disappeared. Can you resend it. I wanted to send the notice on to Bob Gluck, a friend here in this City. Who I don't think gives any time to the B list. Did I copy this private post from Taylor Brady: Stephen, Thinking about your query on Benjamin and color while I've been reading Lisa Robertson's Office for Soft Architecture. There's a great poetic essay in there titled "How to Colour" that opens with Benjamin's visit to Goethe's house -- notable for its whiteness. Lots of great stuff thereafter on the relation between "structural" whiteness and "decorative" color, through which Robertson goes some distance toward transvaluing that opposition. Also great anecdotes on the short-lived transition of the Napoleonic armies from blue uniforms to white following an embargo on indigo from Russia. Apparently, the white uniforms fulfilled their function of sincerity and purity a bit too well, since the reality of battle shows up much more clearly on a white background. In response, Napoleon issued a state policy encouraging the growth of woad in France as an alternate source of blue pigment. Throughout, Robertson stays focused on the slippery boundary between pigment and color. That is, she's concerned with color specifically as color applied to a surface -- a juice or stain. Oddly, this corresponds with the one moment in Benjamin I could track down (though admittedly, the search was far from exhaustive) in which color as such is thematized. The short essay "On Russian Toys," which is appended to the English translation of B.'s Moscow Diary, treats the coloring of Russian peasant toys as an index of surviving handicraft production. There's very little on a sensuous apperception of color, but some interesting stuff on the application of coloring. Anyway, for what it's worth. The Robertson book is worth checking out for a number of other reasons, not least of which, given your work lately, is the series of seven "Walks" in Vancouver and environs with which it concludes. I'd be happy to let you borrow it for a while after I'm finished reading. All best, Taylor > Stephen, > > Can you tell me a little about the 'terms' or formal > parameters which guide your collaboration with Chris > Sullivan? As ?visual responses? I take it you had no > direct involvement in the selection of the images. Do > they change how you read your own work? > > How is it to write knowing your work will be set to > images, or, rather, that images will be set to your > work. It?s a *relatively* common form of > collaboration, I know, but I think I?d find it > daunting. > > -- > Andrew. > http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:54:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Hilton Obenzinger Subject: Running Through Fire Performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed DRAMATIC READING Running Through Fire: How I Survived the Holocaust by Zosia Goldberg as Told to Hilton Obenzinger with Hilton Obenzinger and Audrey Dundee Hannah of the Stanford Drama Department Wednesday, May 26th 7:30PM Black Oak Books 1491 Shattuck Avenue Berkeley 510-486-0698 FREE From the Introduction by Paul Auster: I thought fast. I was lucky and got an idea. These two short sentences come toward the end of Zosia Goldbergs remarkable account of how she managed to live through the nightmare years of the Second World War, and they encapsulate the spirit of the entire story she tells us. Like a female Odysseus, this beautiful and resourceful young woman needed more than simple courage to overcome the dangers that surrounded her. Survival demanded cunning, quick thinking under pressure, a ferocious will to adapt to the most frightening and intolerable conditions, and sheer dumb luck.... RUNNING THROUGH FIRE is a book filled with unspeakable horrors but it is told without a shred of self-pity. Zosia Goldberg never complains, never bemoans her lot. She battles and endures, and in this raw, unvarnished tale of human suffering, she has given us a manual of hope. From Library Journal: An account of deep personal heroism ... as suspenseful as any novel.... This work shows how a strong, resourceful woman (with a lot of luck) overcame the grisly odds. For more information, contact Mercury House: mercury@mercuryhouse.org www.mercuryhouse.org/goldberg.html 415-626-7874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hilton Obenzinger, PhD. Associate Director for Honors Writing, Undergraduate Research Programs Lecturer, Department of English Stanford University 415 Sweet Hall 650.723.0330 650.724.5400 Fax obenzinger@stanford.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:58:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Walking Theories. Comments: cc: Taylor Brady In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sorry, Taylor, for accidentally divulging your private goods. Hope no harm done. Smart stuff - intentionally or otherwise - has a way of escaping its sleeve. Well, real dumb stuff, too, given certain photos in our public midst. My apologies, Stephen V > Hi Andrew: Somehow, your post regarding the book on Cities, Queer space et > al, got disappeared. Can you resend it. I wanted to send the notice on to > Bob Gluck, a friend here in this City. Who I don't think gives any time to > the B list. > > Did I copy this private post from Taylor Brady: > > Stephen, > > Thinking about your query on Benjamin and color while I've been reading > Lisa Robertson's Office for Soft Architecture. There's a great poetic essay > in there titled "How to Colour" that opens with Benjamin's visit to > Goethe's house -- notable for its whiteness. Lots of great stuff thereafter > on the relation between "structural" whiteness and "decorative" color, > through which Robertson goes some distance toward transvaluing that > opposition. Also great anecdotes on the short-lived transition of the > Napoleonic armies from blue uniforms to white following an embargo on > indigo from Russia. Apparently, the white uniforms fulfilled their function > of sincerity and purity a bit too well, since the reality of battle shows > up much more clearly on a white background. In response, Napoleon issued a > state policy encouraging the growth of woad in France as an alternate > source of blue pigment. > > Throughout, Robertson stays focused on the slippery boundary between > pigment and color. That is, she's concerned with color specifically as > color applied to a surface -- a juice or stain. Oddly, this corresponds > with the one moment in Benjamin I could track down (though admittedly, the > search was far from exhaustive) in which color as such is thematized. The > short essay "On Russian Toys," which is appended to the English translation > of B.'s Moscow Diary, treats the coloring of Russian peasant toys as an > index of surviving handicraft production. There's very little on a sensuous > apperception of color, but some interesting stuff on the application of > coloring. > > Anyway, for what it's worth. The Robertson book is worth checking out for a > number of other reasons, not least of which, given your work lately, is the > series of seven "Walks" in Vancouver and environs with which it concludes. > I'd be happy to let you borrow it for a while after I'm finished reading. > > All best, > Taylor > > > > > >> Stephen, >> >> Can you tell me a little about the 'terms' or formal >> parameters which guide your collaboration with Chris >> Sullivan? As ?visual responses? I take it you had no >> direct involvement in the selection of the images. Do >> they change how you read your own work? >> >> How is it to write knowing your work will be set to >> images, or, rather, that images will be set to your >> work. It?s a *relatively* common form of >> collaboration, I know, but I think I?d find it >> daunting. >> >> -- >> Andrew. >> http://personifiedthird.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:37:21 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: e.l. doctorow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--doctorow-hofstra0524may24,0,1227148,print.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire Author booed for anti-Bush commencement address May 24, 2004, 12:38 PM EDT NEW YORK (AP) _ Unlike financier George Soros, who drew cheers at Columbia University for a commencement speech attacking President Bush, author E. L. Doctorow was booed loudly during a similar performance at Hofstra University. In a 20-minute address to graduates at the Long Island school on Sunday, the novelist criticized Bush's tax cuts, anti-terrorism policies and the Patriot Act, but focused mainly on what he called Bush's "untrue" stories about the war in Iraq _ beginning with his "mission accomplished" declaration that major combat in Iraq had ended. "One story he told was that the country of Iraq had nuclear and biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction and was intending shortly to use them on us ... but it was not true," Doctorow said. "Another story was that the Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein, was in league with the terrorists of al-Qaida, and that turned out not to be true. But anyway we went off to war on the basis of those stories." According to Newsday, that led to a torrent of boos and catcalls that forced Doctorow to stop talking. Hofstra President Stuart Rabinowitz stepped to the podium and asked the audience to let him finish. "We value open discussion and debate," he said. This prompted applause from faculty members and some students, along with scattered boos from others, witnesses said. Doctorow was able to continue, further criticizing Bush for his tax cuts, "doing a very poor job of combatting terrorism" and allowing the government to subpoena libraries "to see what books you have taken out." Justice Department officials have said no library records have been subpoenaed under the Patriot Act. The main commencement in Hofstra's football stadium drew nearly 10,000 people including 1,300 undergraduates and their families and friends. Doctorow, perhaps best known for his novel "Ragtime," received an honorary doctorate in humane letters. He left soon after his speech, explaining that he had another engagement. The reaction to his comments contrasted sharply with the response given Soros at Columbia last week, where an audience of several hundred cheered the billionaire philanthropist's attack on Bush's Iraq policy as "unsustainable" following revelations about U.S. troops abusing Iraqi detainees. A Hofstra spokeswoman said on Monday that e-mail and other reaction to Doctorow's remarks had been "all over the map," but on balance, "more angry comments than positive." "We feel that first and foremost, the commencement is a celebration of our graduates and their accomplishments," said Melissa Connolly, assistant vice president for university relations. "We regret that the contents of his speech diminished the day for some of our graduates and their families." She said Hofstra does not screen the content of commencement speeches ahead of time. "To ruin my daughter's graduation with politics is pathetic," Bill Schmidt, a retired New York City police captain, told Newsday. Sociology professor Cynthia Bogard called the speech "totally appropriate... because that's the world our students are entering." Copyright © 2004, The Associated Press -- --------------------------- Newfoundland Tories put culture in a COMA http://www.donotpadlocktherooms.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:32:44 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harrison Jeff Subject: Queen Nab Masquerade Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed a toast to you, passed-around worrier dark surplus water rattling around as you're bending breathing in white grasses skin my enthusiasm & see how pretty it is then, a sequential enthusiasm anatomy, layers nabbed clear & ever clearer if in such clarity we have silence & if in silence we have death, then in echo we have the cradle, words don't spread to the edges of my breath, these edges are spattered with blowflies, our bones are the roots of the sky, the hair of our head is the bottom seam, is the center of the Earth, if this cup could snow, its saucer would be a bank, Queen Nab, faint with feeding silence, words imprisoned on hairs slender like stakes dark surplus water in this toast time of your guts _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:41:59 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: one opening: Dodie Bellamy's Summer Prose Workshop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I had a cancellation for my summer workshop, so there's one opening. So, anybody who's been on the fence about signing up, do contact me. Here's the info again: I will be leading a summer prose workshop, which will meet 10 Monday evenings in my South of Market apartment from 7 to 10. The dates: June 7 through August 30 (no class June 21, August 9, and August 16). By prose I mean fiction, nonfiction, prose poetry, cross-genre (and cross-gender) writing including (but not exclusively) anything edgy or experimental. It's a good place to present work that feels too risky or sexy or queer for academic workshops. The workshops are totally open-ended. Five people present a week, scheduling that the week ahead. Usually people bring in something 5 pages or less (copies for everybody) and we critique it that week. Longer pieces are also okay, but they need to be handed out a week ahead of time for people to read. Each student typically gets a half an hour each time we critique. The classes are limited to 9 students. Lots and lots of personal attention. They take place in my South of Market apartment, which comes complete with snacks and one cat. My latest book, Pink Steam, a collection of fiction, memoir, and memoiresque essays, will be published this June by San Francisco's Suspect Thoughts Press. My vampire novel, The Letters of Mina Harker will be reprinted by University of Wisconsin Press this fall. I'm the author of 3 other books and I teach creative writing at SF State and in the MFA program at Antioch Los Angeles. I've also taught at CalArts, Naropa summer session, Mills, USF, UC Santa Cruz, and the SF Art Institute. I'm the winner of the Bay Guardian Goldie Award for Literature and the Firecracker Alternative Book Award for Poetry. If you're interested, please email about cost, work samples, etc. Or--if you know anybody who might be interested, please pass this email along to them. Past classes have filled up quickly, so if you're interested do contact me promptly. Best, Dodie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:02:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events this week at the Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This week at the Poetry Project: Wednesday, May 26 Noel Black & Yedda Morrison Noel Black is the author, most recently, of the chapbooks Hulktrans (Owl Press) and InnerVisions (Blue Press). He is also the publisher of Angry Dog Press, which recently released a box set of 27 small chapbooks called Angry Dog Midget Editions (available at http://www.angrydogpress.com). He lives i= n Colorado Springs with his wife and son. Yedda Morrison=B9s books include The Marriage of the Well Built Head (Double Lucy Press, 1998), Shed (A + Bend Press, 2000), and Crop (Kelsey Street Press, 2003). She exhibits her visual work throughout the Bay Area and is currently working on a multimedia project titled Girl Scout Nation. She lives in Oakland, California, and works in San Francisco with low-income, homeless adults, and as a florist. [8:00 pm] Friday, May 28 Spring Workshop Reading Participants from the Spring Writing Workshops, taught by Brendan Lorber, Brenda Coultas, and Tom Savage, will share their work. [7:00 pm] * Special Announcement: Two Boots Pioneer Theater, the Howl Festival and the Red Shift Festival presents: YURI FEST Tonight, Tuesday 5/25 @ 9pm The work of artist, activist, and writer Yuri Kapralov will be celebrated with Yuri Fest, a trio of offerings, including a show of the artist's trademark pen-and-ink sketches and abstract sculptures, selected readings from his 1974 surreal memoir "Once There Was A Village"; and the screening of Public Figure (Yuriy Gavrilenko & Dmitriy Rozin, 2004, 30 min)= . Preceded by Schmoozers' Lounge @ 8pm, a free pizza and beer reception for ticket holders sponsored by Brooklyn Brewery. (Please purchase tickets at the Pioneer Theater ($9.00) before attending reception.) The Two Boots Pioneer Theater is located at: 155 East 3rd Street (at Avenue A) New York, NY 10009 (212) 254-3300 Subways: F train to 2nd Ave 6 train to Bleeker St Tickets: $9.00, $6.50 members * The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:01:34 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Platt Subject: Loreography MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 3. humorous at times ribald account line by line to help its fundamental deceit and hypocrisy and destruction across seven states creates the first definitive portrait the aftermath of the defeat recovering from the Great Depression and a ragtag band of every walk of life as the authors take us back to lure visitors by promising behind-the-scenes look at hung by a thread and this system completely broke down 4. what is unique and universal from one the inside story when the trip took place the day-to-day activities as they unfolded before us who are accomplishing the extraordinary war was all but lost to the weapons and tools out to change the world a front row seat at unraveling the complex symbolism of enduring cold and danger sleep later her body was exhumed ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:21:59 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Re: e.l. doctorow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks, Kevin. Later in the day I learned the whole thing. An obvious reaction given the target audience: very Republican higher middle-brow middleclass... so to be expected. cheers, Gerald Schwartz > http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--doctorow-hofstra0524may24,0,1227148,print.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire > Author booed for anti-Bush commencement address > May 24, 2004, 12:38 PM EDT > > NEW YORK (AP) _ Unlike financier George Soros, who drew cheers at Columbia > University for a commencement speech attacking President Bush, author E. > L. Doctorow was booed loudly during a similar performance at Hofstra > University. > > In a 20-minute address to graduates at the Long Island school on Sunday, > the novelist criticized Bush's tax cuts, anti-terrorism policies and the > Patriot Act, but focused mainly on what he called Bush's "untrue" stories > about the war in Iraq _ beginning with his "mission accomplished" > declaration that major combat in Iraq had ended. > > "One story he told was that the country of Iraq had nuclear and biological > and chemical weapons of mass destruction and was intending shortly to use > them on us ... but it was not true," Doctorow said. > > "Another story was that the Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein, was in league > with the terrorists of al-Qaida, and that turned out not to be true. But > anyway we went off to war on the basis of those stories." > > According to Newsday, that led to a torrent of boos and catcalls that > forced Doctorow to stop talking. Hofstra President Stuart Rabinowitz > stepped to the podium and asked the audience to let him finish. "We value > open discussion and debate," he said. > > This prompted applause from faculty members and some students, along with > scattered boos from others, witnesses said. Doctorow was able to continue, > further criticizing Bush for his tax cuts, "doing a very poor job of > combatting terrorism" and allowing the government to subpoena libraries > "to see what books you have taken out." > > Justice Department officials have said no library records have been > subpoenaed under the Patriot Act. > > The main commencement in Hofstra's football stadium drew nearly 10,000 > people including 1,300 undergraduates and their families and friends. > > Doctorow, perhaps best known for his novel "Ragtime," received an honorary > doctorate in humane letters. He left soon after his speech, explaining > that he had another engagement. > > The reaction to his comments contrasted sharply with the response given > Soros at Columbia last week, where an audience of several hundred cheered > the billionaire philanthropist's attack on Bush's Iraq policy as > "unsustainable" following revelations about U.S. troops abusing Iraqi > detainees. > > A Hofstra spokeswoman said on Monday that e-mail and other reaction to > Doctorow's remarks had been "all over the map," but on balance, "more > angry comments than positive." > > "We feel that first and foremost, the commencement is a celebration of our > graduates and their accomplishments," said Melissa Connolly, assistant > vice president for university relations. > > "We regret that the contents of his speech diminished the day for some of > our graduates and their families." > > She said Hofstra does not screen the content of commencement speeches > ahead of time. > > "To ruin my daughter's graduation with politics is pathetic," Bill > Schmidt, a retired New York City police captain, told Newsday. Sociology > professor Cynthia Bogard called the speech "totally appropriate... because > that's the world our students are entering." > > > Copyright © 2004, The Associated Press > > > -- > --------------------------- > Newfoundland Tories put culture in a COMA > http://www.donotpadlocktherooms.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:42:14 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Hadbawnik Organization: Rova Saxophone Quartet Subject: Brandon Brown/Cynthia Sailers Friday, May 28 -- San Francisco In-Reply-To: <006801c4429e$50ca07a0$27c7a918@rochester.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are invited to A Reading at David & Diane's apartment 695 35th Ave. #204 San Francisco 415.221.4272 enjoy your favorite writers in a cozy environment with refreshments and friends... bring some beer, wine, or a snack coming up: *7.30pm Friday, May 28* yes, this is a make-up date for the two poets who were supposed to read with Lisa Jarnot last week... a reading by Brandon Brown and Cynthia Sailers ** last reading of the "season" ** Brandon Brown is a poet and translator from Kansas City, Missouri. He is currently an MFA candidate at San Francisco State University. His poems have appeared. He lives in San Francisco with one chainsmoking maniac. Local heroine Cynthia Sailers is a California native (San Diego, 1974) who now lives in Alameda and co-curates the New Brutalism Reading Series in Oakland. Her work has or will appear in various journals, including Aufgabe, 14 Hills, LitVert.com, pompom, Small Tiger, Barn (v.), and Involuntary Vision: Poems after Kurosawa's Dreams. Directions: Public trans: From downtown San Francisco, take the 38 Geary or the 31 Balboa, and get off at 35th Ave. Driving: drive to 35th and Balboa, park; my building is the big one on the northwest corner of the street. Ring the buzzer for apartment 204. NOTE: the phone will be turned off after 8pm, so don't be late!!! http://habenichtpress.com/readingseries FOR MORE DETAILS www.habenichtpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:13:35 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anslem Berrigan Subject: reading in L.A. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karen Weiser & Anselm Berrigan will be reading at Beyond Baroque on Friday, May 28 at 7:30 pm 681 Venice Blvd. Venice, California ph: 310-822-3006 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:23:29 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: Philly Sound reading... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://phillysound.blogspot.com PHILLY SOUND: New Poetry to celebrate the Philly Sound feature in M.A.G. online journal and the release of FREQUENCY Audio Journal come hear a round-robin reading of Philly Sound poets: Alicia Askenase Tom Devaney hassen Mytili Jagannathan Ish Klein Chris McCreary Ethel Rackin Molly Russakoff Frank Sherlock CAConrad will introduce the poets, and talk about M.A.G. online and FREQUENCY Audio Journal Thursday, June 10th 6:30pm at The Gleaners Cafe 917 S. 9th St. in the heart of the Italian Market questions? contact CAConrad at 215 563 3075 or Gleaners Cafe at 215 923 3205 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:50:09 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark DuCharme Subject: publication announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed INFINITY SUBSECTIONS by Mark DuCharme Poetry and poems in prose Publisher: Meeting Eyes Bindery (an imprint of Spuyten Duyvil) ISBN: 0-923389-64-4 Price $10.00 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What people are saying: "Mark DuCharme puts language together in a way that happily resembles the music of Harry Partch’s thoughtful brother, or the artworks of Robert Rauschenberg’s Blue Period. That is, they’re thoroughly surreal, yet not bumptiously so. There's dignity in his `madness' and thereby a composition of new sense. One senses that the new sense, while playful, is also keenly expressive of a social view.... DuCharme's poetry, with its pioneering juxtapositions, grows on you in humor, sense and poetic beauty. Featured amidship is a wild, 26-page alphabet zoo. And then there are the *other* poems: realistic, even deadly, like `Provisional Kiwi,' so that we wind up with a tough-mindedness that ranges, cinematically, from Brakhage to Bogart and back. Love of language's dynamics dominates all" --JACK COLLOM "We might say these poems pose a question: what is sincerity? what is it, and language, in the midst of our 'makeshift cultural capital'? DuCharme's poems occur at an angle where language is emptied out of all its uses, and we find ourselves in the clearing." --ELENI SIKELIANOS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Infinity Subsections: PROVISIONAL KIWI Thanks, Sweetie. I would’ve nailed the heart-to-heart But it rained, & I was cramped. How about Friday? You look Like you suddenly discovered The doorbell is _not_ your voice. Which is a line that you can use Whenever the Girl in Black appears. Shifting modes of a disinfection We’d latched on to scrupulously In order to fake the next brain-teaser. But I wanted to tell you I got used it, It’s like sincerity, only more goring. Let’s trash the rondo. Vivacious guest stars Blur the luxury of a cool apartment. Johnny get down from there! You’ll hurt your toes. But the mood grows Obstinate as plastic spasms We have the electric bulb to thank for. Now, let’s talk about us: You have become one of my very favorite pests. I’ve been wondering a lot about this idea of gnashing. Some days, I’m a fruit peddler. I can’t bother myself. * THE SCREENS Fly, or were they complete in the assignments of launch with attacked participants? **Time out** I have doubt of form attack per night towards heaven. Or freeze as if the significant balance were falling asleep, fall or form with regular Disturb one moment of song be attack itself, be very balance but repeat in any event touch fashion. The night attack fraternizes a figure, a figure a going beyond be very differently. Catch up with in order to himself delay with space between an original and its shade— crenelations of houses, billboards fast with memory become more stable, “at least you can hide.” Towards a figure, a figure, you can hide that in your gardener **time out** among the scenes of accidents remain calm. Or having a place set on the fire in addition to some screen— the matter touching them— there have in part to steal or place on fire in addition to some screen— the scene of positioning of buildings on the fire in addition to some screen— the interval, true like the setting in sheath or tactical While-You-Wait for, true, like the setting in sheath tactical (the going beyond the moment that your gardener, the deracinated gesture in the disturbance of the household form in the matter which touches them. Was there part to fly or form with regular (I doubted the matter which touches them) was there part to fly or was there in fallen sleep or was there just complete the assignments of launch with regular, disturbing balance. Or form with participants attacked or fraternized toward the question. I doubted the scene of the positioning of buildings on fire in addition to the screen; the scene of the shapes of households while waiting, true, like the setting out of tactical sheath night. I doubted the matter which touches them, in part right or early. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The book is available from Small Press Distribution: http://www.pub24x7.com/scripts/rgw.dll/rblive/BOOKS:ORDERHOME Interested parties can also backchannel me. (Please don't post to the list, as I'm on No Mail). Thanks. P.S.: To anyone on the list who'll be at the Carrboro Poetry Festival on June 5th and 6th, please come up and say hi. I'll be reading on Saturday at 3:45. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:38:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Comments: To: WRYTING-L Disciplines , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, randomART@yahoogroups.com, dreamtime@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (At first I thought this was another rtmark hoax but Newsday is running the same report. Steve is part of Critical Art Ensemble who have done a lot of interesting projects over the years. He & the rest of Critical Art Ensemble came to Dreamtime in 93 to produce an artist book. ~mIEKAL) From: CAE Legal Defense Fund Date: Tue May 25, 2004 8:47:40 PM America/Chicago To: "dtv-mwt.net" Subject: FBI ADBDUCTS ARTIST, SEIZES ART - HELP URGENTLY NEEDED May 25, 2004 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE FBI ABDUCTS ARTIST, SEIZES ART Feds Unable to Distinguish Art from Bioterrorism Grieving Artist Denied Access to Deceased Wife's Body DEFENSE FUND ESTABLISHED - HELP URGENTLY NEEDED Steve Kurtz was already suffering from one tragedy when he called 911 early in the morning to tell them his wife had suffered a cardiac arrest and died in her sleep. The police arrived and, cranked up on the rhetoric of the "War on Terror," decided Kurtz's art supplies were actually bioterrorism weapons. Thus began an Orwellian stream of events in which FBI agents abducted Kurtz without charges, sealed off his entire block, and confiscated his computers, manuscripts, art supplies... and even his wife's body. Like the case of Brandon Mayfield, the Muslim lawyer from Portland imprisoned for two weeks on the flimsiest of false evidence, Kurtz's case amply demonstrates the dangers posed by the USA PATRIOT Act coupled with government-nurtured terrorism hysteria. Kurtz's case is ongoing, and, on top of everything else, Kurtz is facing a mountain of legal fees. Donations to his legal defense can be made at http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/ FEAR RUN AMOK Steve Kurtz is Associate Professor in the Department of Art at the State University of New York's University at Buffalo, and a member of the internationally-acclaimed Critical Art Ensemble. Kurtz's wife, Hope Kurtz, died in her sleep of cardiac arrest in the early morning hours of May 11. Police arrived, became suspicious of Kurtz's art supplies and called the FBI. Within hours, FBI agents had "detained" Kurtz as a suspected bioterrorist and cordoned off the entire block around his house. (Kurtz walked away the next day on the advice of a lawyer, his "detention" having proved to be illegal.) Over the next few days, dozens of agents in hazmat suits, from a number of law enforcement agencies, sifted through Kurtz's work, analyzing it on-site and impounding computers, manuscripts, books, equipment, and even his wife's body for further analysis. Meanwhile, the Buffalo Health Department condemned his house as a health risk. Kurtz, a member of the Critical Art Ensemble, makes art which addresses the politics of biotechnology. "Free Range Grains," CAE's latest project, included a mobile DNA extraction laboratory for testing food products for possible transgenic contamination. It was this equipment which triggered the Kafkaesque chain of events. FBI field and laboratory tests have shown that Kurtz's equipment was not used for any illegal purpose. In fact, it is not even _possible_ to use this equipment for the production or weaponization of dangerous germs. Furthermore, any person in the US may legally obtain and possess such equipment. "Today, there is no legal way to stop huge corporations from putting genetically altered material in our food," said Defense Fund spokeswoman Carla Mendes. "Yet owning the equipment required to test for the presence of 'Frankenfood' will get you accused of 'terrorism.' You can be illegally detained by shadowy government agents, lose access to your home, work, and belongings, and find that your recently deceased spouse's body has been taken away for 'analysis.'" Though Kurtz has finally been able to return to his home and recover his wife's body, the FBI has still not returned any of his equipment, computers or manuscripts, nor given any indication of when they will. The case remains open. HELP URGENTLY NEEDED A small fortune has already been spent on lawyers for Kurtz and other Critical Art Ensemble members. A defense fund has been established at http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/ to help defray the legal costs which will continue to mount so long as the investigation continues. Donations go directly to the legal defense of Kurtz and other Critical Art Ensemble members. Should the funds raised exceed the cost of the legal defense, any remaining money will be used to help other artists in need. To make a donation, please visit http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/ For more information on the Critical Art Ensemble, please visit http://www.critical-art.net/ Articles about the case: http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/news-WKBW-2.html http://www.rtmark.com/CAEdefense/news-WKBW.html On advice of counsel, Steve Kurtz is unable to answer questions regarding his case. Please direct questions or comments to Carla Mendes . -- You are receiving this message because you once signed up for mailings from RTMark. 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"The American soldier who tortured Iraqi prisoners was sentenced to one year in prison and my son, who denounced these abuses and followed his conscience, was also sentenced to one year in prison. Is that fair? Is that just?" At a court martial trial in Ft. Stewart, Georgia on May 19-21, Staff Sergeant Camilo Mejia Castillo, known by friends and supporters simply as Camilo, was sentenced to the maximum penalty of one year in prison, reduction in rank to private, and a bad-conduct discharge for refusing to return to Iraq. "What an incredible irony that we're prosecuting soldiers in Iraq for violations of international law and we're prosecuting a soldier here because he refused to do the same things," said former Attorney General Ramsey Clark, a member of Camilo's defense team. Camilo's stellar team of lawyers and experts, including West Point graduate and Vietnam conscientious objector Louis Font and international law professors Francis Boyle and Jules Lobel, threatened to make the trial an explosive indictment of the entire war. And given the global outrage against the torture of Iraqi prisoners, the defense planned to show that months before the abuses became public, Camilo had already spoken out against the cruel treatment of prisoners, as well as the slaughter of civilians and the needless deaths of American GIs. But military judge Col. Gary Smith quickly squelched those plans, ruling out issues related to the legality of the war, the abuse of prisoners, and Camilo's conscientious objector claim. By denying all the defense motions, the judge denied Camilo the possibility of a fair trial. The defense was forced to argue the case on the narrow technical grounds that Camilo thought he was not under military jurisdiction because he had already fulfilled his 8-year commitment and because as a Costa Rican citizen, he could not be forced to involuntarily remain in the US military. The 8-person military jury saw no merit to these claims and ruled that Camilo had illegally abandoned his platoon. The military was determined to make an example of Camilo to stop other soldiers from refusing to fight. His commander in Iraq, Capt. Tad Warfel, a man Camilo accused of unnecessarily endangering the lives of his soldiers to further his career, gloated after the trial. He said the guilty verdict would send a message that "deserters are punished, regardless of their excuses." Camilo Mejia's journey from obedient soldier to fierce opponent of the war was an 8-year ordeal. He spent three years in the Army before joining the Florida National Guard, and was deployed to Iraq in April 2003. During his six-month deployment, Camilo received a promotion to squad leader and commendations for his courage and commitment. He was, according to his commanding officers and the men under him who testified at his trial, an exemplary and popular soldier. But unbeknownst to the other soldiers, Camilo was changing as he experienced the horror of war-the firefights, the ambushes, the excessive use of force, commanders who put glory over good strategy, soldiers who were untrained and underequipped. He watched the Iraqis quickly turn from welcoming to hostile, "At first they were happy to see us. Then we started setting up roadblocks, raiding their homes, killing civilians, and their attitude changed," he recalled. "The people didn't want us there any more, and we didn't want to be there." He was also deeply disturbed by the abuse of Iraqi prisoners he witnessed. In fact, months before the appearance of the Abu Graib photos, Camilo complained to his superiors about conditions at a makeshift detention camp near the Baghdad airport where Iraqis were arbitrarily arrested and detained, and where he and his men were directed by three unidentified interrogators to "soften up" prisoners for questioning. They were taught to stage mock executions, clicking pistols near the ears of hooded prisoners, or to bang on metal walls with sledgehammers to keep prisoners awake for up to 48 hours. In October 2003 Camilo went home on a two-week leave to deal with his immigration status. It was during that leave that he had a chance to reflect on all he had seen and done in Iraq. He realized that the war was based on lies about weapons of mass destruction and ties with Al Qaeda, and that the subsequent claims of saving Iraqis from a brutal dictator were a cover up for the real aim of this war: controlling the country's oil and other resources, and gaining a permanent military foothold in a strategic part of the world. He decided he could not, in good conscience, continue to participate in an "immoral, oil-driven war". On March 15, 2004, surrounded by his family and supporters from the anti-war movement, Camilo surrendered to military authorities and filed for discharge as a conscientious objector. He became the first veteran from Iraq to publicly challenge the morality of the war and refuse to fight. "Acting upon my principles became incompatible with my role in the military," Camilo declared as he turned himself in. "By putting my weapon down I chose to reassert myself as a human being," Camilo maintained that stance of courageous resistance throughout his court martial trial. Both his testimony and his statement before sentencing were riveting. Poised, articulate and charismatic, he talked about how innocent Iraqis were killed "as if they had no names, no family, no feelings." He spoke about the unacceptable loss of US lives by commanders who put their troops at risk for medals and promotions. He claimed that he was responding to a higher authority, his conscience. "I will sit behind bars a free man, knowing that I did the right thing," he declared. "I have no regrets." In the coming weeks, Camilo will get a hearing on his application for conscientious objector. The outcome of that hearing, however, does not directly affect his prison sentence, although an approval might enhance his appeal prospects. While Camilo's case did not get the kind of press attention it deserved, he has put a public face on the widespread disillusionment among the soldiers in Iraq and among many in the military leadership. According to the Pentagon's own survey, morale among the troops in Iraq is perilously low, and some 600 troops have failed to return from their furloughs. Since the start of the war, thousands of soldiers have called the GI hot-line that gives soldiers legal advice about military discharges and conscientious objector status. "Camilo will be remembered in the history books as the first in a long line of soldiers who rose up and helped bring an end to the occupation of Iraq. He will not be remembered as a deserter, but as a hero," said Gael Murphy of Code Pink, a women's peace group that has been supporting Camilo and his family. Code Pink held vigils outside the base during the trial, and even protested on the base itself when the guilty verdict was delivered. Daniel Ellsberg of Pentagon Papers' fame agreed that Camilo is a hero. "Sergeant Mejia served his country bravely and well in Iraq; but he is serving his country better, and just as bravely, in his refusal to participate further in what he correctly identifies as an illegal war using illegal means." Meanwhile, Martiza Castillo-a woman of tremendous strength and resolve despite the fact that she barely speaks English and is desperately short of funds-is spearheading a campaign on her son's behalf. She is asking Amnesty International to consider him a Prisoner of Conscience, she is raising money for his appeal, she is pushing the Costa Rican government to advocate for his release, and she plans to speak out to the press and the public. "I will not rest until my son is free and the US troops are out of the Iraq," said Maritza defiantly. "This is not the end of my son's case; this is just the first battle." . . . . . Medea Benjamin is co-founder of Code Pink and the human rights group Global Exchange. To help the Free Camilo Campaign (needs include putting up a website, raising funds, translating to and from Spanish, contacting the press, and doing public outreach), contact Code Pink at info@codepinkalert.org or call 415-575-5555. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:48:02 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: George Saunders on Iraq Comments: cc: stjohnsftaa@topica.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Exit Strategy How to leave Iraq in three simple steps. By George Saunders Posted Monday, May 24, 2004, at 8:29 AM PT It is clear we are at a crossroads in Iraq. Naysayers are claiming the situation there is chaotic and confusing. Nonsense. It is not confusing. It is quite simple. Allow me to explain. There are, at present, two major constituencies in Iraq: those who want to kill us, and those who do not. Success will require minimizing membership in the former group. Complications along this path may include the following: 1) In the process of killing the ones who want to kill us, we sometimes kill some who are not trying to kill us. This has been observed to cause a sudden increase in the number who want to kill us, which means a longer stay for us, since we then must kill, not only the ones who originally wanted to kill us, but also the ones who just started wanting to kill us. 2) In order to identify the ones who want to kill us, it is necessary, once we have caught someone who wants to kill us, to encourage him/her to help us identify others who want to kill us. Sometimes we mistake ones who don't want to kill us for ones who do, and catch them, and encourage them. Upon their release, there occurs a sudden increase in the number of those who want to kill us. 3) Given the large number of us over there, it should come as no surprise that some of us are bad. Certain abuses have occurred. However, it is only fair to note that many more abuses were occurring before we arrived. Plus, if our abusers are abusing over there, they are not abusing over here. So really, it is a win/win: The Iraqis have fewer abuses than they were having, and we have fewer abuses than we would have had had our abusers stayed at home. Everyone is happy, except, it has been observed, those who were abused and those who hear of the abuse and suddenly join the group of those wanting to kill us. Since it is clear that we cannot leave until they stop killing us, and equally clear that they will not stop killing us until we leave, I propose the following exit strategy: 1) Kill all the ones who are trying to kill us, in such a way that none of those who presently do not want to kill us suddenly start wanting to kill us. 2) At the moment of the death of the last person who wanted to kill us, race quickly out of the country before some additional person suddenly decides he/she wants to kill us, thus necessitating our continued presence in Iraq, in order to kill him/her. 3) Having left Iraq quickly, do not look back, so as not to witness individuals claiming they would have liked to kill us, which would then necessitate a return to Iraq, in order to etc., etc. (See No. 2, above.) To implement this exit strategy, we will have to practice running quickly. It is further recommended that, while running, the eyes be cast down, to avoid witnessing any last-minute people trying to kill us. We will have to establish excellent communications so that the moment that final person begins dying, we can all begin running quickly at the same time, eyes cast down, quickly, to our vehicles, to get to the airport and get out of the country. This exit strategy will demand a high level of coordination, dedication, and planning. But our leaders have already shown the way by showing that, if one has a vision, and refuses to betray that vision by modifying it, or becoming distracted by small details, such as, for example, the confusing data emanating from the non-theoretical world, filled with actual people, pets, clothes on clotheslines, nuanced loyalties, etc., mountains can be moved, nations can be changed, great things can be accomplished. It is clear that the fate of Iraq now rests in the hands of Iraqis. People of Iraq, I say to you: Stop trying to kill us, so we can leave. But also, do not fear. We are in it for the long haul, although we cannot stay with you indefinitely. No, as soon as you stop trying to kill us, believe us, you will never see us again. Therefore, trust us, people of Iraq, have faith, we assure you: As long as you continue trying to kill us, we will never abandon you. George Saunders is the author of CivilWarLand in Bad Decline and Pastoralia. Article URL: http://slate.msn.com/id/2100933/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:20:05 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: kari edwards Subject: Creek renamed in Burroughs' honor In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://transdada.blogspot.com/ http://www.ljworld.com/section/citynews/story/171264" Creek renamed in Burroughs' honor By Richard Gintowt, lawrence.com writer Wednesday, May 26, 2004 To some it's a ditch, a tributary or a concrete tunnel. =A0=A0 But the East Lawrence stream officially is now Burroughs Creek, in=20 honor of famed Beat author William S. Burroughs, who once lived nearby. The U.S. Geological Survey Board on Geographic Names has approved, 7-0,=20= the proposed name change submitted last fall by the Lawrence City=20 Commission on behalf of the Brook Creek Neighborhood Assn. Formerly named the Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe Tributary, the new=20 Burroughs Creek will appear on the USGS National Map within a couple of=20= weeks. Roger Payne, executive secretary for the USGS Board on Geographic=20 Names, said the unanimous approval came after "surprisingly little"=20 debate. "I suspect that because of the nature of Mr. Burroughs and the=20 high-profile nature of the case, the board members probably had thought=20= about it many times well before the meeting," Payne said. The request received special attention, he said, because of Burroughs'=20= controversial reputation. In addition to his literary accomplishments,=20= Burroughs was a drug addict, a bisexual, and in his younger years shot=20= and killed his wife during a party stunt. The name change had some opposition in Lawrence, most notably from=20 Douglas County Commissioner Jere McElhaney, who said Burroughs promoted=20= a "revolutionary lifestyle." McElhaney contacted Payne prior to the=20 board's vote. =A0=A0=09 Burroughs "had a certain group of followers ... which is fine; that's=20 their choice," McElhaney said. "But not everybody liked his books and=20 not everybody liked his writing and not everybody liked his lifestyle. To me, somebody's trying to put Burroughs up on a pedestal that he=20 should not be on." Such views failed to sway the board. "Apparently there was no need to have much in the way of discussion=20 regarding his character," Payne said. Honoring the writer The vote marked a victory for the Brook Creek Neighborhood Assn., which=20= had been pushing the name change in conjunction with a $3.9 million=20 city project to rebuild the stream to alleviate flooding problems. That=20= stretch of creek is being converted from drainage pipe to a natural=20 open stream in a project scheduled to be complete by January. =A0=A0 Though the name change drew support from the Lawrence City Commission=20 and Lawrence Parks and Recreation Department, the Douglas County=20 Commission did not endorse the proposal, instead choosing to remain=20 silent on the matter. For longtime Burroughs friend and estate executor James Grauerholz, the=20= re-naming of the creek was not so much about celebrating Burroughs'=20 lifestyle as it was about his literary contributions and importance to=20= Lawrence's history. "This doesn't mean like, =91The victory of the hippies' or something,"=20= said Grauerholz, who wrote a letter to the City Commission in support=20 of the proposal. "Burroughs is not actually famous for accidentally=20 killing his wife or being a narcotics addict or being homosexual ...=20 he's famous for being a great writer, and because of that we know about=20= these other things." Kirsten Roussel, former president of the Brook Creek Neighborhood=20 Assn., has been following the proposal's progress from its inception=20 two years ago. "I'm very glad," she said. "I do recognize that Mr. Burroughs was a=20 colorful character, to say the least, but he is part of the history of=20= Lawrence, and this seemed a fitting way to memorialize that." Burroughs, author of "Naked Lunch," lived out his last years in=20 Lawrence. Other cities he called home included New York, New Orleans,=20 Morocco and Mexico. He died in Lawrence of a heart attack on Aug. 2, 1997. He was 83. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:29:17 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: MDL Subject: Bilingual Poetry Reading at Gallery 108, Somerville, MA: Saturday May 29, 8 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Saturday, May 29, 8PM Maudite Productions at 108 Presents: A bilingual reading by Guillermo Juan Parra and Yelimar Becearra Guillermo and Yelimar will read classic and contemporary poems from Venezuela in Spanish and English, as well as selections from their own work. *** Yelimar Becerra was born in Caracas Venezuela. She grew up in the neighborhood of El Valle, where days start very early with salsa, boleros, merengue, bad news and a lot of obstacles to overcome. Her first book, “Desórdenes que no he cometido” (Disorders I didn't commit), was published in 1994 in Caracas by the Circulo de Escritores Venezolanos. Her second book "Cuentas de agua" (Water Beads, 1996, unpublished) was awarded a Literary Prize at the School of Sociology of the Universidad Central de Venezuela. In 2000 she graduated from UCV, with a degree in Sociology. She currently lives in Boston, where she is working on two different writing projects. Guillermo Juan Parra was born in Cambridge, MA in 1970. He grew up in Venezuela, Mexico and Florida and now works as a teacher in Boston. His poems can be found in the spring 2004 issue of "6x6" magazine. He is currently editing and translating an anthology of Venezuelan poetry in English. Excerpts from this anthology can occasionally be found at his blog "venepoetics" (http://venepoetics.blogspot.com). Event is free and open to the public. 108 is located at 108 Beacon Street in Somerville, a block or so from Dali. For more information please contact Mark Lamoureux (617.460.0118 or mark_lamoureux@yahoo.com). ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 08:18:27 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Punk-Arse Flute/Behaviour Modification (Sleepy Brain) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello unto you, Enjoy the following... ****************************** MEL CHILIANIS: PUNK-ARSE FLUTE http://www.sleepybrain.net/melos.html ****************************** "At university, it was always the most prissy, boring people who played the flute. So I made it my business to play it in the most crazy and aggressive way I could. Now, I am getting back into its naturally resonant sound, and quite unapologetically, too." MELANIE CHILIANIS, 2004 Melanie Chilianis, a Melbourne flautist, presents a sample of her latest output in MP3 format: a successful union between the instrument she made her name with, the flute, and technological mixes, patches and crunchy electronic treatments. Also features an exclusive interview. Four downloads, as follows: Flute 1 (128kbps; 1'11"; 1MB) "Very flutey, undulating with a kind of yearning (my girlfriend calls it the Whale Conversation Pit)." Flute 2 (128kbps; 0'22"; 364KB) "Pulse driven, using sounds in the raw derived from pencils and rulers." Flute 3 (128kbps; 0'56"; 884KB) "Vocal sounds that stretch and mutate." Flute 4 (128kbps; 0'58"; 912KB) "Made as an interlude for a Neopoetry piece to accompany a transitional moment. The only one that uses a synth sound." ****************************** 24 HOURS IN 24 DAYS http://www.sleepybrain.net/24.html ****************************** A Behavioural Modification Program (BMP) commissioned by the Ballard Institute for the Study of Eroto-Responsive Kinetics, Canberra in the interests of conditioning Sleepy Brain editor Simon Sellars against utilising excessive instances of the pronoun "I" in his fiction and non fiction writing. The exercise is this: Sellars takes one photo of his immediate environment, daily, at incremental hours, starting at 1pm the first day; 2pm the next and so on until 24 hours and 24 days are used up. Short commentaries of exactly 24 words will accompany each photo, recording his thoughts at that point. An alarm worn on his person will alert him to the appropriate time. Sellars will refrain from using the pronoun "I" in any of the commentaries. If he slips up and lets even one "I" go through to the keeper, then an alarm of a different pitch will sound. At that point, he will take a straight razor and carve a notch into his forearm for each "I" used, until he has learnt the lesson of selfless denial. The end result will be 24 photos, 576 words of commentary, a less self-indulgent, more dynamic writing style and, hopefully, no self-inflicted wounds. -- Simon Sellars SLEEPY BRAIN MAGAZINE DROMA PRODUCTIONS SUB DEE INDUSTRIES (w) http://www.sleepybrain.net (e) simon at sleepybrain dot net ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:02:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: on Iraq, Saunders et al In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I would strongly recommend the front web pages of both the NY Times and Washington Post today. The NY Times delivers a particularly strong expose of the top-down direction of the torture in Iraq, as well as in Afghanistan. It's a disgusting portrayal of both the conscious intent to violate the Geneva accords, and the execution of such in the so-called "interrogation" of prisoners. An accompanying article on the Contract workers (enforcers and so-called translators) is blood curdling (that one is either in the Times or the Post). I find this all totally disturbing and frightening to read. From the President and Rumsfeld down the chain of command, these are clearly folks who early on in both Afghanistan pursued a criminal course of behavior. (Right, George, we know exactly what you mean when you say, "Stay the course." )Or the memory bells now go off about the Administration's refusal to sign an agreement or withdraw from an agreement for the US to be under the jurisdiction of the World Court. At that time foresight for this gang - to save their skins from international judgment at the Hague - I am sure they now consider good hindsight. The fright comes from a more and more growing awareness that the country was subjected to a coup in the last election. Indeed we are being led by crooks. The very man who developed the criminal interrogation techniques in Quantanamo (sp?) and brought them (unmuzzled dogs, shackles, deprivation, race and sex humiliation, asphyxiation, actions that led to murder) to Abu Ghraib is - in response to the photos - appointed by Rumsfeld & Co. to be the reform head of the same prison! It seems to me clearly an attempt - clearly now now not working - to cover their own arses from criminal accusations. It's no wonder that we are getting high level "terror threats" from this Administration which can be easily interpreted as entirely cynical means of taking the eye off these crimes. No terrorist acts - as much as these creatures have stimulated the greater likelihood of another Twin Tower type civil disaster - means that Bush folks can say how could they are protecting the country from such attacks. Is it too much to imagine or ask that the Senate demand that our own internal Occupation forces (Rumsfeld & Company) be removed by June 30 - the same date sovereign power is due to replace the Occupation government in Iraq? Let's hope there are enough of us to push Congress to go beyond the language of "incompetent" - which they are - but call 'criminals criminals." Such should be the same for Cheney and Bush - tho I suspect we will have to wait for the election to the make their removal democratic. Then let the World Court do its job on these folks - it's perhaps one of the few ways that the that the perhaps now "quaint" image of the USA as a democracy will get a start on some much needed international and domestic cleansing. These folks have definitely - it appears to me, anyway - converted a "War on terror" - however that may be defined - into what many of the world now interpret, ironically, as an American war dedicated to the principles "of and for terror." Not in our name, indeed! Meanwhile the NY Times is having to confess that it, too - including its prize reporter, Judith Miller - fell hook line & sinker and did not rigorously investigate the stories of WMD and biological weapons fabricated by Challabi - which the Bush folks used to foment the War - for whatever crazy, now disastrous reason - they so much wanted. Stephen Vincent ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:02:49 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Conscription For 'The Great American Consumer Jihad' To Begin Soon Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press The Cheney's Bushy Poll Numbers On Iraq Are Fucked: Numbers Indicate That Puppet Presidency Approach Is A Fuckin' Disaster This Time Around: Support Drops To Single Digits When January 5th Draft Is Mentioned: Conscription For 'The Great American Consumer Jihad' To Begin Soon At A Mall Near You; More Economic Wars To Be Waged In A Country Not Near You: "The Ronald Reagan Lovable Moron Approach May have Run Its Course," Says Karl Rove: Halliburton Shipping 'Sailing Fuel' As Empty Trucks Criss-Cross Iraq: By Randy Ballz and Rich Moron U.S. Nearing Deal on Scam to Track Foreign Visitors: Congress Teetering On Climax: Cheney Demanding 25% Finder's Fee by Eric Lichtbaulb and John Fukkoff They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:58:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mmagee@DEPT.ENGLISH.UPENN.EDU Subject: Toscano & Mengert in Providence Comments: To: Mairead Byrne In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit THE DOWNCITY POETRY SERIES presents Rodrigo Toscano & Christina Mengert Tuesday, June 1, 7pm Tazza 250 Westminster St., Providence Rodrigo Toscano was born in San Diego, CA in 1964. He lived there until the age of 29 (with the exception of a year's sojourn in the deserts of the southwest as a truck driver). In 1995 he moved to San Francisco and lived there for four years, where he worked as a social worker and labor activist. During this time he co-founded Krupskaya Press with Jocelyn Saidenberg and Hung Q. Tu. He then moved to Brooklyn (Greenpoint) with the poet and essayist Laura Elrick, where he currently lives. He works at the Labor Institute in Manhattan, all the while maintaining an active (participatory) interest in experimental literary movements. His books include The Disparities, Partisans, Platform and the forthcoming To Leveling Swerve. Christina Mengert recently graduated from Brown's MFA program in Literary Arts where she received the Kim Ann Artsark Memorial Award for Poetry and completed her first manuscript Stranger Is a Bird. Her poems can be seen or are forthcoming in American Letters & Commentary, Salt, Typo and Castagraf. Hosted by Michael Gizzi and Michael Magee Contact Michael Magee (mmagee@risd.edu) for details. http://www.quabooks.com/ http://www.combopoetry.com http://www.tazzacaffe.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:45:51 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tim Peterson Subject: Leonardo Electronic Almanac: May 2004 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Leonardo Electronic Almanac: May 2004 ISSN#1071-4391 art | science | technology - a definitive voice since 1993 http://lea.mit.edu *Public News Network by Jack Stenner* A computer-based artwork giving viewers "the power to interrogate corporate broadcast media." Using a 3-D navigable space, with Internet-transmitted objects representing news broadcasts, to synthesize ideas from multiple disciplines the work encourages the audience to question their preconceived understanding, providing the "opportunity for a new understanding via chance juxtapositions and a re- sampling of existing content." *Toward the Glass Bead Game by Joshua Fost* A realization of writer Herman Hesse's "Glass Bead Game.” The piece associates small images with ideas in ordinary prose developing a new vocabulary of glyphs, which are later "assembled in special ways, such that their spatial arrangement asserts symbolic relationships between the corresponding ideas." http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/LEA/GALLERY/ glassbeadgame/index.html *Escuela Rural Andina de Cajamarca by Sabine Vess* Seeking to activate the talents of rural Peru's artisans through the creation of permanent training facilities for weavers, ceramists and jewelers. *Leonardo Reviews: May 2004* Filmmaker/theorist Coral Houtman reviews Peter L. Rudnytsky's “Reading Psycho-Analysis: Freud, Rank, Ferenczi, Groddeck”, examines the relationship between psychoanalysis and literature through a textual analysis filter. David Surman looks at Patricia Pisters' latest powerful foray into the writing of Deleuze, *The Matrix of Visual Culture: Working with Deleuze in Film Theory”. Other reviews: http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-journals/ Leonardo/ldr.html Also in this issue, Julio Bermudez’s editorial: “Art and Design: Cures for Society's Growing Data Perceptual Blindness?”, the upcoming International Art and History Conference, remembering Iba Ndiaye Diadji and Piotr Kowalski, and much more … Editorial ideas / proposals: lea@mitpress.mit.edu ************************************************************** ****************** LEA Information and URLs ------------------------------------------- Receive your FREE subscription to the Leonardo Electronic Almanac e-mail digest at http:// mitpress.mit.edu/lea/e-mail -- just provide your email address, name, and password, and check off that you'd like to be added to the Leonardo Electronic Almanac monthly e-mail list to keep on top of the latest news in the Leonardo community. How to advertise in LEA? http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/isast/ placeads.html#LEAads For a paid subscription (to become an ISAST member and access archives dating back to 1993): http:// mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=4&tid= 27&mode=p The Leonardo Educators Initiative ------------------------------------------------------- The Leonardo Abstracts Service (LABS) is a listing of Masters and Ph.D. theses in the art/science/technology field, for the benefit of scholars and practitioners. LEA also maintains a discussion list open only to faculty in the field. Students interested in contributing and faculty wishing to join this list should contact lea@mitpress.mit.edu What is LEA? ---------------------- For over a decade, Leonardo Electronic Almanac (LEA) has thrived as an international peer-reviewed electronic journal and web archive, covering the interaction of the arts, sciences and technology. LEA emphasizes rapid publication of recent work and critical discussion on topics of current excitement. Many contributors are younger scholars and artists, and there is a slant towards shorter, less academic texts. Copyright© 1993 - 2004: The Leonardo Electronic Almanac is published by Leonardo / International Society for the Arts, Sciences and Technology (ISAST) in association with the MIT Press. All rights reserved. -- NEW ADDRESS! Please note our new contact information as of May 1, 2004: Leonardo/ISAST 211 Sutter Street, Suite 800 San Francisco, CA 94108 phone: (415) 391-1110 fax: (415) 391-2385 Email: isast@leonardo.info Web: http://www.leonardo.info ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:25:39 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Platt Subject: Loreography MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 5. exploring the social and cultural the familiar names are here amusing and little-known facts talk about what really happens from its humble beginnings to mobile war with innovative tactics as to the enduring grandeur in lively and engaging text letters diaries and personal recollections through never-before published letters with legend anecdote and history as bright and colorful as exactly how and why the visionary purchase that opened up 6. over several centuries as well it explores the length of engagements and skirmishes told entirely around the country beautifully enhanced origins were obscured over time by maps drawings and engravings and provides compelling evidence of a narrative packed with adventures and what effect he had pursuing worldwide the most damaging about the poisonous effect these more than a thousand would their homes were a series liquor cigarettes movies appliances furniture ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:01:47 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ian Randall Wilson Subject: email addresses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would anyone with email address for: Jennifer Moxley Please backchannel. We're looking to solicit some work. Ian Wilson Managaing Editor 88: A Journal of Contemporary American Poetry www.hollyridgepress.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:06:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Re: reading in L.A. In-Reply-To: <4d.3f4c65fc.2de5574f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anselm Backchannel me- R Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Anslem Berrigan > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:14 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: reading in L.A. > > > Karen Weiser & Anselm Berrigan > > will be reading at Beyond Baroque > > on Friday, May 28 at 7:30 pm > > 681 Venice Blvd. > > Venice, California > > ph: 310-822-3006 > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 05:18:10 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Is this justified? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 if I speak and say to you "I am going to kill you" and you reply with my death by your hands: is this verbal agreement justified? -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 08:11:06 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Rafah Comments: To: Poetryetc Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This from an astounding blog kept by a Palestinian student, Mohammed, who lives in Rafah. I am lately struck by how many times I have read appeals for witness: outside Abu Ghraib, in Rafah, in Falluja: a primary desire by human beings who suffer these kinds of injustices seems to be that others simply recognise and understand the injustice. Inside that plea is a belief in the basic decency of other human beings. Best A Rafah Today=20 http://www.rafahtoday.org/news/todaymain.htm 26 May 04=20 Still up till now no one knows the exact number of people who were killed in this last massacre. Streets are completely damaged, trees uprooted, a very large number of houses have been demolished, and all vehicles, taxis and cars, are lying damaged in the street.=20 At about 7 a.m., the news spread among people that the Israeli Occupation Forces have withdrawn from Tal Al Sultan. People rushed to the damaged areas to see what had happened, and everyone wanted to know what happened to their homes and that of their neighbours. It looked an earthquake had struck. Israel called this incursion " Operation Rainbow." Israeli sources say in the Israeli media that the operation has not ended, and that Israeli troops might get back anytime whe= n they feel it necessary. The ending of that incursion comes with a very sad beginning of homeless families in every corner of Rafah. Tents have sprung up. One of the homeless children, a 15 years old girl, spoke to journalists and lead them to her room where her books and bedroom had been completely burnt by the Israelis.. It is the first time that one of the attacks and incursions in Rafah takes such full media coverage throughout the world, but still the question remains: does the message of the Rafah homeless families really reach the world?! ...=20 Tens of people were killed and over 300 were injured and nearly 1785 Palestinians became homeless, in addition to total damage of the Rafah infrastructure. all streets have been damaged. I was asked to deliver this urgent appeal: the farmers of Tal Al Sultan area are appealing to the whole world to find a solution for them. They have lost their land and there will be no chance to bring food for their families.. One of those left homeless was 40 years old Abdurrahman Dahleez who has 13 members in his family, most of whom are children. Only five minutes after his house was demolished he began talking to me saying: "They demolished my house, they demolished my land, and they took away the future of my family." His wife began collecting some of whatever remained from the rubble of her house, and she asked: "I don=B9t know where I should go with my children." Dahleez family were only family out of many homeless families since the beginning of the Intifada, and their lives have rapidly changed. After living in dignity in their humble house that consisted of three rooms and his small land from which he brought food for his family, to nothing now. Dahleez doesn=B9t have any kind of political activity. He is a simple man with a simple life. all he wanted was for his children to grow up happy.=20 Alison Croggon Editor, Masthead=20 http://www.masthead.net.au Home page http://www.alisoncroggon.com Blog http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:11:15 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: david antin email In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit anyone have it? Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of Alison Croggon > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 5:11 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Rafah > > > This from an astounding blog kept by a Palestinian student, Mohammed, who > lives in Rafah. I am lately struck by how many times I have read appeals > for witness: outside Abu Ghraib, in Rafah, in Falluja: a primary desire by > human beings who suffer these kinds of injustices seems to be that others > simply recognise and understand the injustice. Inside that plea > is a belief > in the basic decency of other human beings. > > Best > > A > > Rafah Today > http://www.rafahtoday.org/news/todaymain.htm > > 26 May 04 > > Still up till now no one knows the exact number of people who were > killed in this last massacre. Streets are completely damaged, > trees uprooted, a very large number of houses have been demolished, > and all vehicles, taxis and cars, are lying damaged in the > street. > > At about 7 a.m., the news spread among people that the Israeli Occupation > Forces have withdrawn from Tal Al Sultan. People rushed to > the damaged areas to see what had happened, and everyone wanted > to know what happened to their homes and that of their neighbours. > It looked an earthquake had struck. Israel called this incursion " > Operation Rainbow." Israeli sources say in the Israeli media that the > operation has not ended, and that Israeli troops might get back > anytime when > they feel it necessary. > > The ending of that incursion comes with a very sad beginning of homeless > families in every corner of Rafah. Tents have sprung up. One > of the homeless children, a 15 years old girl, spoke to journalists > and lead them to her room where her books and bedroom had > been completely burnt by the Israelis.. > > It is the first time that one of the attacks and incursions in Rafah > takes such full media coverage throughout the world, but still > the question remains: does the message of the Rafah homeless > families really reach the world?! > ... > > Tens of people were killed and over 300 were injured and nearly 1785 > Palestinians became homeless, in addition to total damage > of the Rafah infrastructure. all streets have been damaged. > > I was asked to deliver this urgent appeal: the farmers of Tal Al > Sultan area are appealing to the whole world to find a solution > for them. They have lost their land and there will be no chance > to bring food for their families.. One of those left homeless was 40 years > old Abdurrahman Dahleez who has 13 members in his family, > most of whom are children. Only five minutes after his house > was demolished he began talking to me saying: "They demolished > my house, they demolished my land, and they took away the > future of my family." His wife began collecting some of whatever remained > from the rubble of her house, and she asked: "I don¹t know where > I should go with my children." > > Dahleez family were only family out of many homeless families since > the beginning of the Intifada, and their lives have rapidly > changed. After living in dignity in their humble house that > consisted of three rooms and his small land from which he > brought food for his family, to nothing now. > > Dahleez doesn¹t have any kind of political activity. He is a > simple man with a simple life. all he wanted was for his children > to grow up happy. > > > > Alison Croggon > > Editor, Masthead > http://www.masthead.net.au > > Home page > http://www.alisoncroggon.com > > Blog > http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:46:36 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a-z coney isle ave to eat blini at pri mors ski impe rial pee late..di..et..break..drn... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:50:06 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mo' candy break 4 little girls bam bam bam bam candy break 4 little girls mo' before 12:00...down under loathing...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:16:33 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: The Reader of these Words MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Reader of these Words You are still alive Praise God, On Kawara _ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:32:15 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: Dave Dellinger -- 1916-2004 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Dellinger passed away on Tuesday at the age of 88. He was one of the greats -- this remembrance was taken from Znet, Ron Dave Dellinger: The Life of a Nonviolent Warrior by Greg Guma ; May 26, 2004 Dave Dellinger's journey began in Wakefield, Massachusetts, a suburb of Boston. His dad was a well-connected Republican lawyer and a friend of the state's governor, Calvin Coolidge - a native Vermonter, by the way, who went on to become president. One of his grandmothers was a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution. His father's ancestors can be traced back to North Carolina, before the American Revolution. In fact, Benjamin Franklin was a direct ancestor, by way of one of Franklin's grand nephews and a full-blooded Cherokee Indian. Quite a pedigree for an American radical! By the mid-1930s, it looked like Dave was on the fast track to a career in law or government. But he already saw a different direction. He had been picking up ideas - and you know how dangerous they can be! Ideas from philosophy and economics, from radical Christians and college friends like Walt Rostow. Rostow was advocating communism at the time, but Dave questioned its approach and lack of a spiritual dimension. He wasn't very surprised when Rostow changed sides later, backing war in Southeast Asia, in his words "to save them from Communism." Dave also drew inspiration from his love of nature and the campaigns of Gandhi in India, and by getting to know his fellow workers during a summer job in a Maine factory. In his autobiography, From Yale to Jail, Dave recounted an incident at Yale that changed his life. It happened after a football game between Yale and Georgia. Tensions between the Yale students and "townies" were high. Imagine Dave and his friends taking home a section of the goal posts as a trophy of victory. In any case, they were set upon by some local toughs. In the ensuing fight, Dave decked one of them - and then experienced revulsion at what he'd done. Here's how he explains what happened: "The lesson I learned was as simple, direct and unarguable as the lesson a child learns the first time it puts its hand on a red-hot stove: Don't ever do it again! But the pain I felt was a spiritual pain, as if I had suddenly emerged from a fit of anger and realized that I had pressed a child's hand onto the stove. I knew that I would never be able to strike another human being again." That moment also showed him something else: how sadness and shame can lead to love and change. He stayed with the young man he had hit, apologized, and walked him home. As they parted, Dave felt what he called "the power of our unexpected and unusual bonding." The impact of the encounter stayed with him. ON THE ROAD The world eventually came to know Dave Dellinger as an activist dedicated to nonviolence. But the path he took had many turns, and at one point, as a student, he was tempted to pick up a gun. The year was 1936, and he was on his way to Oxford University on a fellowship to get a doctorate. As he recalled it later, during the sea voyage the ship's radio announced that Francisco Franco had launched a military attack on the Popular Front, which had come to power the previous February. Arriving in Spain, he saw the non-hierarchical communal settlements established by the Front and stayed at the People's University in Madrid. As Franco's soldiers advanced toward the city, he even considered joining the resistance. If his friends were going to die, he thought, he was ready, too. He also believed that the help of the Communists, who had mostly come from other countries, might lead to victory. But in the end, he couldn't ignore the grim reality: Communists were shooting Trotskyists and both were shooting anarchists. In fact, while he was in Barcelona, some anarchists even fired at his car. He didn't choose the gun. Instead, he came to a conclusion that has informed his activism for the 65 years since then. He puts it this way: "Whoever won in an armed struggle, it wouldn't be the people." A year later, back in the States, he hit the road. Rejecting the comfortable path before him, Dave walked out of Yale. Wearing his oldest clothes and without any cash, he traveled around the country, riding freight trains, sleeping at missions, standing in bread lines, even begging for money. Off and on, this journey continued for the next three years, following a path inspired by Francis of Assisi. In his autobiography, Dave described that experience: "In a way, my whole trip was a first experimental step down the road Francis had traveled, rejected his heritage as the son of a rich Florentine merchant, living the life of the poor, even kissing the leper. Now as I felt a wonderful new sense of freedom, it was Francis who filled my thoughts. "Oddly, the image that came to mind was not of Francis doing what I was doing and what the poor often have to do, asking for help from those who consider themselves superior. Rather it was the image of Francis kissing the leper. I didn't kiss anyone and no one kissed me, but I couldn't get the image out of my mind. Finally I concluded.that I had become the leper. By unashamedly approaching the healthy and asking for food, I was affirming the rights of society's lepers. And I was asking the people I approached for more than money or food. I was asking them to come a little closer to being Saint Francis." LOVE, WAR, AND PRISON The 1940s were not easy times to oppose war and promote nonviolence. Pacifists found themselves alone as most liberals and leftists in the anti-war movement supported "preparedness," collective security, and, once Germany attacked Russia, entry into the conflict. Eerily enough, some of the same terminology and arguments are being used today. Back in 1940, Dave was living and working in Harlem, while studying at the Union Theological Seminary. He wasn't planning to become a minister, but did hope to deepen his radical insights. However, when the conscription law was passed in 1940, he opted not to accept an exemption because of his status as a seminarian. Instead, he and several others refused to register for the draft. His reasons for opposing the unfolding "world war" were complicated. He knew about corporate support for Hitler and the Nazis. He had also visited Germany, and concluded that there was potential for internal opposition. In general, he saw the war as a geopolitical chess game rather than a fight against tyranny and racism. Beyond that, he couldn't stomach having an exemption when so many others, especially Blacks, didn't want to kill but were given no choice. His decision not to register soon led to two of the most important events in his life: meeting the love of his life, the woman with whom he would spend the next 60 years -- Elizabeth Peterson, and going to jail for the first time. But not in that order. First, he was sentenced to a year in the Danbury federal prison. Early on, because he sat in the Black section during a Saturday movie, he was put in solitary confinement. And then, when he refused to answer to a number or submit to harassment by a guard, he was thrown into the notorious Hole. Some prisoners were broken by the experience. But for Dave, it led to another breakthrough. He explained: "For no reason I can explain, I began to discover how little it mattered where you are or what anyone does to you. I was sure that what I had done to get there was right and somehow the longer I was there the better I felt. Maybe that wasn't it at all, but anyway I never felt better in my life, even if I was shivering and wished I had something to eat, or a cigarette. "I felt warm inside and filled all over with love for everyone, everyone I knew and everyone I didn't know, for plants, fish, animals, even bankers, generals, prison guards and lying politicians.Why did I feel so good? Was it God? Or approaching death? Or just the way life is supposed to be if we weren't so busy trying to make it something else? "It didn't matter why. The only thing that mattered was that it was happening." After getting out of the Hole, Dave was targeted as a troublemaker. But his commitment to ending racial segregation in the prison brought him new allies, especially among the Black prisoners. There were more threats and more days in solitary. Dave didn't wavered, even when Communist prisoners -- who at first considered him a hero - then decided he was a "fascist coward" once Germany invaded the Soviet Union. Shortly after getting out of prison, Dave was invited to speak at a National Conference of the Student Christian Movement in Ohio. But before that happened, Pearl Harbor was attacked and World War II was fully underway. It was hard to know what would happen next. He might even be arrested in the middle of his anti-war talk! Instead, he got an enthusiastic response, and several requests for interviews. One of the students interviewers was a Betty Peterson, from Pacific College in Newburgh, Oregon. She also opposed the draft, had worked with Mexican migrant workers, and was interested in Dave's commune experience. While their first meeting lasted only minutes, it was obviously enough to make a big impression. Dave immediately called a woman who wanted to marry him and called it off. On February 4, 1942, only a month after they had met, Dave and Elizabeth were married. BUILDING A MOVEMENT Throughout the war years, Dave, Elizabeth, and their comrades in the peace movement resisted repression -- and risked arrest -- as they continued to struggle against the tide. A demonstration at the Capitol in 1943 led to another prison term for Dave, this time two years at the prison farm just outside the walls of the Lewisburg penitentiary. During that sentence, he joined a strike to end segregation and fasted for weeks to stop prison censorship and the use of the Hole. The protesters won a small victory that time, ending the censorship of mail and reading material. By the time Dave was released in 1945, Elizabeth had given birth to their first child, Evan Patchen, and was living at a Pennsylvania apple farm. Before long, between picking apples and working on a nearby dairy farm, Dave had teamed up with Bill Kuenning and Ralph DiGia to launch Direct Action, a magazine reflecting their militant opposition to war and faith in the power on nonviolent action. Dave's first editorial looked at the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He wrote: "Hiroshima and Nagasaki were atomized at a time when the Japanese were suing desperately for peace. The American leaders were acting with almost inconceivable treachery by denying that they had received requests for peace.The bombs were exploded on congested cities filled with civilians. There was not even the slightest military justification, because the military outcome of the war had been decided months earlier. "The war for total brotherhood must be a nonviolent war carried on by methods worthy of the ideals we seek to serve. The acts we perform must be the responsible acts of free men, not the irresponsible acts of conscripts under orders. We must fight against institutions but not against people. "There must be strikes, sabotage and seizure of public property now being held by private owners. There must be civil disobedience of laws which are contrary to human welfare. But there must be also an uncompromising practice of treating everyone, including the worst of our opponents, with all the respect and decency that he merits as a fellow human being. We can expect to face tear gas, clubs and bullets. But we must refuse to hate, punish or kill in return." TOWARD LIBERATION It's common to hear that the 50s, and even the early 60s, were times of conformity and repression. The Korean War, McCarthy Era, and the Cold War, plus the deadening banality of mainstream society. Father "knew" best, and the "American dream" was in full regalia. But there were storms brewing beneath illusion of calm, and Dave was part of that shift in the winds of change. Here's just a taste of what he was up to: Direct Action was succeeded by Alternative, Individual Action, and finally Liberation, a venerable magazine which lasted for 20 years. Countless writers, some unknown and others prominent from the 60s onward, contributed to this groundswell of radical thought. Their names include A. J. Muste, Bayard Rustin, Sid Lens, Barbara Deming, Paul Goodman, Staughton Lynd, Kay Boyle, David McReynolds, Tom Hayden, Tod Gitlin, Dorothy Day, Daniel Berrigan, E.F. Schumacher, Robin Morgan,, Thomas Merton, Howard Zinn, Art Kinoy, Murray Bookchin, Allen Ginsberg, Noam Chomsky, and many more. And despite how that time is depicted, there were antinuclear demonstrations and civil disobedience actions, like a 44 person, two-week fast in Washington in April 1950 against the Hydrogen bomb. There were marches and Freedom Rides in the south, solidarity actions to bridge the people-to-people gap between Cuba and US after 1959, protests with Martin Luther King in the civil rights movement, and a series of nonviolent committees and organizations - Peacemakers, the Committee for Nonviolent Revolution, the Fellowship of Intentional Communities, and, of course, the War Resisters League. Through this period, Dave and Elizabeth lived and worked in an intentional community, as well as with the Libertarian Press. They were also working internationally, with campaigns of liberation in Europe and the colonized world. It was called the Third World, but we know what that really meant. FROM THE PENTAGON TO CHICAGO Here's how Dave described the tumultuous period leading up to the March on the Pentagon in 1967, the historic protests at the Democratic National Convention in 1968, and the show trial of the Chicago Eight in 1969: "The anti-Vietnam War movement did not start in a vacuum. It was the offspring of previous movements for justice and peace. And like a lot of children it had to fight its way against the efforts of its parents to prevent it from straying too far outside the compromises they themselves had made with conventional society. In some ways, I was cast in the role of being an older brother in these conflicts, someone who was old enough to be importuned to side with the parents but was more frequently drawn to stand with the rebellious kids." Everyone should have that kind of older brother! Going up against the national "peace leaders" of his day, Dave, along with Ralph DiGia, Dave McReynolds, Joan Baez and a handful of others, often sided with the SDS - Students for a Democratic Society, which came on strong beginning in 1965 with a call for a national antiwar demonstration. After that demonstration, Dave was jailed again -- and threatened with charges of treason. But when some of his fellow prisoners heard about that, they refused bail unless the threats were dropped. Faced with true solidarity, the government backed off. The next year Dave visited Vietnam for the first time, personally witnessing the ruthless conduct of the war, visiting with US POWs, and getting the Vietnamese side of the story from Ho Chi Minh. Dave says Ho never spoke harshly on Americans, although he did criticize the US preoccupation with money and materialism. They talked about Harlem - Ho had worked for a Brooklyn family after World War I - the poverty of Black people, and how anti-Communist paranoia had led the US into a series of arrogant mistakes. Before they parted, Ho Chi Minh offered a final message: "We do not want to humiliate the Americans or make it difficult for them to return home. If they finally decide to let us live in peace and to take their soldiers home where they can lead safe and honorable lives, we will have celebrations for them. Our girls will bring flowers to the boats as they get ready to sail away and our musicians will pay songs for them. Dave didn't completely buy that, but he was captivated and impressed by the revolutionary leader. And the visit did lead to a series of other visits Dave helped organize until the war ended. By 1967, the death toll in Vietnam was rising, and the antiwar movement was gaining incredible momentum. People were burning draft cards, and a link was finally being forged between antiwar activists and leaders within the civil rights movement. Dave also played a crucial role in that alliance. As the slogan for the October, 1967 protests, march, and civil disobedience in Washington urged, it was time to move "From Protest to Resistance." And that included a dramatic plan to shut down the Pentagon. The impacts of those events, and others like them around the world, are still being felt today. By 1968 -- From Berkeley to Prague, in Mexico City and in Paris -- a hunger for change filled the air. Even the media and some US leaders couldn't deny what was happening. Senator William Fullbright called it a "spiritual rebellion" of the young against a betrayal of national values. Returning from Vietnam, Walter Cronkite said the only "rational way out" was to negotiate a settlement. But the FBI and the Nixon administration had other plans - namely, to disrupt and neutralize the antiwar movement through a covert counter-intelligence program. In March, Eugene McCarthy, an opponent on the war, won 42 percent of the primary vote in New Hampshire. Soon afterward, Robert Kennedy entered the race and President Lyndon Johnson decided not to seek another term. On April 4, a rifle shot range out in Memphis, ending the life of Martin Luther King. Rebellions erupted in 125 cities, leading to 20,000 arrests, and the mobilization of federal troops. In June, Kennedy was assassinated. By July, there had been over 220 major demonstrations on campuses across the country. On the other side of the world, in Vietnam, 10,000 US soldiers had died since the beginning of the year, more than in all of 1967. And then, the Democrats held their national convention. According to Mayor Richard Daley, it was protesters and activists like Dave, Tom Hayden, John Froines, and the others who became known as the Chicago Eight who incited the riots that erupted in Chicago. But Daniel Walker, who produced the official report afterward, concluded that it was clearly a police riot. He described in detail the indiscriminate violence of the cops, often inflicted on people who had disobeyed no order and made no threats. Millions of people needed no convincing. They'd seen it on TV. Over the next year, a climate of repression blanketed the nation. Attorney General Richard Kleindeinst called antiwar activists "ideological criminals," and the FBI's COINTELPRO was taking hold. Both the War - and the resistance to it -- were still escalating. Nixon was in the White House, and the establishment was desperate for scapegoats. Eight activists were indicted -- Tom Hayden, Abbie Hoffman, John Froines, Lee Weiner, Jerry Rubin, Rennie Davis, Bobby Seale, and Dave Dellinger. The basic charges were: a) traveling across state lines "with the intent to incite, organize, promote, encourage, participate in, and carry on a riot" b) to teach and demonstrate the use, application, and making of incendiary devices to further civil disorder, and c) a conspiracy between the eight to do these things. There was no conspiracy - except the one the government was cooking up. In fact, some of the defendants didn't even know one another, and, as Abbie Hoffman used to say, "We couldn't agree on lunch." But they knew the charges were really a distraction -- persecution in disguise. So they decided to put the government and its court on trial - rather than win on a technicality - and to use any means at hand. They were about to make history. The trial ran five months, from September 26, 1969 to the following February. There was no Court TV then, so we don't have a visual record. But we do have transcripts, and many of the key moments made news across the country. Some were absurdly funny, like Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman showing up for court in judges robes or the day the defendants rolled in a cake to celebrate Bobby Seale's birthday. When Judge Hoffman ruled the cake out of order, Bobby replied: "You can arrest a cake, but you can't arrest the revolution." At other times, the trial took on the character of an inquisition. And perhaps never so clearly as on October 29, when Bobby Seale was carried into the court, bound and gagged, his ankles and wrists chained to the legs of his chair, for demanding his right to defend himself. Many years later, John Tucker, a lawyer who was involved in the case, recalled one of the most dramatic moments. "As the trial ended," he explained, "and everyone knew Judge Hoffman was going to hold the defendants and their lawyers in contempt of court and send them to prison, we were asked to represent them in seeking bail pending appeal. My first assignment was to attend court while the contempt citations were being issued in order to make the appropriate objections and motions to protect the record in case Bill Kunstler and Len Weinglass were imprisoned before they could do so. Thus, I was in the courtroom on Saturday, February 14, 1970 when the judge began the contempt proceedings by reciting his charges against the first named defendant, David Dellinger. 'What occurred next was the most extraordinary and emotionally draining event I experienced in a courtroom in 30 years as a trial lawyer." By law, the judge was required to allow David to address the court before passing sentence. He began be asking, "I hope you will do me the courtesy not to interrupt me while I am talking." "I won't interrupt you as long as you are respectful," Judge Julius Hoffman replied. "Well, I will talk about the facts and the facts don't always encourage false respect. Now I want to point out first of all that the first two contempts cited against me concerned ...the war against Vietnam, and racism in this country, the two issues this country refuses to solve, refuses to take seriously." Hoffman ordered him to stop, but Dave was on a roll. "You see," he said, "that's one of the reasons I have needed to stand up and speak anyway, because you have tried to keep what you call politics, which means the truth, out of this courtroom, just as the prosecution has." Ignoring the judge's command that he sit down and shut up, Dave continued. "You want us to be like good Germans supporting the evils of our decade and then when we refused to be good Germans and came to Chicago and demonstrated, now you want us to be like good Jews, going quietly and politely to the concentration camps while you and this court suppress freedom and the truth. And the fact is that I am not prepared to do that. You want us to stay in our place like black people were supposed to stay in their place, like poor people were supposed to stay in their place, like people with formal education are supposed to stay in their place, like women are supposed to stay in their place, like children are supposed to stay in their place, like lawyers are supposed to stay in their places. It is a travesty on justice and if you had any sense at all you would know that the record that you read condemns you and not us. And it will be one of thousands and thousands of rallying points for a new generation of Americans who will not put up with tyranny, will not put up with a facade of democracy without the reality. "I sat here and heard that man Mr. Foran say evil, terrible, dishonest things that even he could not believe in. I heard him say that and you expect me to be quiet and accept that without speaking up. People no longer will be quiet. People are going to speak up. I am an old man and I am just speaking feebly and not too well, but I reflect the spirit that will echo throughout the world. At this point, according to the transcript, there was applause and "complete disorder in the courtroom." It was no exaggeration. Tucker recalled. "As two marshals tried to hustle David out of the courtroom, his daughter Michelle, who was 13 at the time, stood up and screamed something like 'Leave my dad alone.' Her sister Natasha also stood and screamed, and several marshals, there must have been at least 20 in the courtroom, plowed into the audience and jumped on the two girls. David yelled, 'leave my daughters alone,' shucked off the marshals like they were a couple of annoying mosquitoes and rushed to his daughters aid, joined by Abbie Hoffman and a spectator who leapt over two rows of benches onto the back of one of the marshals. An army of marshals grabbed Dave to drag him away, and the courtroom erupted. Everyone -- the audience, the press, the defendants and their lawyers -- was screaming or shouting or sobbing. No one who was there will ever forget it." A NONVIOLENT WARRIOR It's been more than three decades since the riots during the 1968 Democratic Convention and trial of the Chicago eight, and almost as long since the end of the Vietnam War. Dave kept busy during all that time, right up until the recent US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's hard to even catalogue all the work, all the causes. Work with Native Americans and in international solidarity movements from Nicaragua to Japan. Joining in countless protests and hunger strikes. Civil disobedience like the Winooski 44 sit-in to stop war in Central America. Meetings with prisoners and working for prison justice. Helping to build support for independent politics. Standing with new generations of activists in affinity groups, opposing the nuclear arms race, war and atrocities in Central America, the Persian Gulf, and Yugoslavia, and calling a halt to corporate globalization. For over 60 years, whenever US racism and imperialism raised their ugly heads, Dave was there -- the "energizer bunny" of the global movement for justice and freedom. His efforts were all the more heroic for being nonviolent. Repeatedly putting himself is harm's way, he often managed, almost miraculously, to turn antagonists into allies with the moral force of his convictions. As the US again went to war in October, 2001, hundreds of activists and artists gathered in Burlington, Vermont, for a celebration of his life and nonviolent work. It was a long overdue tribute to this remarkable nonviolent warrior. True to form, Dave requested that the event focus not just on him, but also on the many struggles for peace and social justice to which he so completely committed himself. Nevertheless, the stories told that night underlined the hopes, passions and fierce commitments that had shaped his life. Members of his family were on hand, as well as old friends like Howard Zinn, Dennis Brutus, Cora Weiss, Art Kinoy, John Froines, Staughton Lynd, Ralph DiGia, Norma Becker, and many more. At the end, Dave rose to speak, urging us to act with love and value community. Near the end of his life, struggling with hearing problems and advancing Alzheimer's, Dave composed a touching poem that described his approach to life: I love everyone, even those who disagree with me. I love everyone, even those who agree with me. I love everyone, rich and poor, and I love everyone of different races, including people who are indigenous, wherever they live, in this country or elsewhere. I love everyone, whatever religion they are, and atheists too. People who contemplate, wherever it leads them. I love everyone, both in my heart and in my daily life. Greg Guma is the editor of Toward Freedom (TF), a world affairs magazine whose board of directors Dave co-chaired for more than a decade, and worked closely with him over the last 20 years. As a tribute to Dave and Elizabeth Peterson, TF has produced the audio documentary, Nonviolent Warriors, including testimonials, dramatic scenes, and Dave's own words. To learn more, visit. www.TowardFreedom.com. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:41:37 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sina Queyras Subject: US soldier flees to Canada MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable American soldier flees to Toronto =20 Associated Press=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Vancouver - An American soldier who deserted his Iraq-bound unit = and sought asylum in Canada said the war in Iraq was illegal and accused = the United States of committing war crimes. Pfc. Jeremy Hinzman, 25, defended his decision to leave his unit = with the 82nd Airborne Division on Jan. 2, about two weeks after he = learned his unit would be deployed to Iraq. He fled to Toronto with his = wife and child. He is believed to be the first U.S. soldier to apply for refugee = status in Canada after refusing combat duty in Iraq. "The Iraqi war is illegal according to international standards. It = was condemned by most the international community," Pfc. Hinzman said = Tuesday in a speech sponsored by an anti-war group and an Arab advocacy = group. "If I had participated in the Iraq occupation, I would have = participated in a criminal enterprise." A spokeswoman for the Fort Bragg, N.C.-based 82nd Airborne = Division has said Hinzman could be arrested, but that the Army would not = pursue him. Pfc. Hinzman served three years in the Army prior to January. He = had applied for conscientious objector status before his unit was sent = to Afghanistan in 2002, but the Army told him it had lost his = application. The Canadian Immigration and Refugee Board is to start hearings in = July on Pfc. Hinzman's case. Last week, a U.S. soldier who refused to return to his Florida = National Guard unit after a two-week furlough last October was sentenced = to a year in prison for deserting his unit in Iraq. Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia had said that he disobeyed orders to = return to his unit because his war experiences in Iraq made him decide = to seek status as a conscientious objector. He later turned himself over = to the Army. Globe & Mail =20 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 07:44:14 -0400 Reply-To: "[ : : BlazeVOX : : ]" Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "[ : : BlazeVOX : : ]" Subject: Kent Johnson poem on the Abu Ghraib prison matter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sneak Peek at the new issue of BlazeVOX Kent Johnson presents a poem on the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal http://www.blazevox.org/kent.htm Watch for the new issue !!!=20 Best, Geoffrey=20 Geoffrey Gatza __o=20 _`\<,_=20 (*) / (*) =20 =20 ++ BlazeVOX | Editor : http://www.blazevox.org=20 ++++ BlazeVOX [books] : http://www.blazevox.org/books ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:21:14 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Platt Subject: Loreography MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 7. newspaper articles photos and memorabilia man had a hand in one of the most controversial the unlikely scheme to build his life story is one with new material added about as comprehensive a history as heroic courage and terrible carnage service from serving as nurse of the career of the cruelest years of the Depression the rags-to-riches Depression Obsession through the incredible true styles changes and innovations developed 8. what he knew in advance made the best use of a heroic effort to eradicate the beginning of the war followed by a detailed account and also discussing higher strategy it was a crucial turning “kill or be killed” concept a thorough analysis of the many previously unused sources of key events and policies such first-hand accounts from long account of what actually happened to mistakes made by high ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 07:58:10 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: { brad brace } Subject: -- 12hr update In-Reply-To: <200405270404.i4R44Vnd023938@ultra6.eskimo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII _ |__ __| | /_ |__ \| | | __| | | | (_) | | __/ (__| |_ __ | | | | | | __/ | |/ /_| | | | | _ | | | '_ \ / _ \ | | / /| '_ \| '__| The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project >>>> posted since 1994 <<<< "... easily the most venerable net-art project of all time." _ | | | '_ \ / _ \ | | / /| '_ \| '__| -_ | | | |__ ___ | | ) | |__ _ __ _ | __ \ (_) | | | __| | | | (_) | | __/ (__| |_ _ | | | '_ \ / _ \ | | / /| '_ \| '__| _| |__) | __ ___ _ ___ ___| |_ |_ ___/ '__/ _ \| |/ _ \/ __| __| |_| _ |_| \___/| |\___|\___|\__| _ _/ | _ |__/ > > > > Synopsis: The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project began December 30, 1994. A `round-the-clock posting of sequenced hypermodern imagery from Brad Brace. The hypermodern minimizes the familiar, the known, the recognizable; it suspends identity, relations and history. This discourse, far from determining the locus in which it speaks, is avoiding the ground on which it could find support. It is trying to operate a decentering that leaves no privilege to any center. The 12-hour ISBN JPEG Project ----------------------------- began December 30, 1994 Pointless Hypermodern Imagery... posted/mailed every 12 hours... a spectral, trajective alignment for the 00`s! A continuum of minimalist masks in the face of catastrophe; conjuring up transformative metaphors for the everyday... A poetic reversibility of exclusive events... A post-rhetorical, continuous, apparently random sequence of imagery... genuine gritty, greyscale... corruptable, compact, collectable and compelling convergence. The voluptuousness of the grey imminence: the art of making the other disappear. Continual visual impact; an optical drumming, sculpted in duration, on the endless present of the Net. An extension of the printed ISBN-Book (0-9690745) series... critically unassimilable... imagery is gradually acquired, selected and re-sequenced over time... ineluctable, vertiginous connections. The 12hr dialtone... [ see http://www.eskimo.com/~bbrace/netcom/books.txt ] KEYWORDS: >> Disconnected, disjunctive, distended, de-centered, de-composed, ambiguous, augmented, ambilavent, homogeneous, reckless... >> Multi-faceted, oblique, obsessive, obscure, obdurate... >> Promulgated, personal, permeable, prolonged, polymorphous, provocative, poetic, plural, perverse, potent, prophetic, pathological, pointless... >> Emergent, evolving, eccentric, eclectic, egregious, exciting, entertaining, evasive, entropic, erotic, entrancing, enduring, expansive... Every 12 hours, another!... view them, re-post `em, save `em, trade `em, print `em, even publish them... Here`s how: ~ Set www-links to -> http://www.eskimo.com/~bbrace/12hr.html -> http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/12hr.html -> http://bbrace.net/12hr.html Look for the 12-hr-icon. Heavy traffic may require you to specify files more than once! Anarchie, Fetch, CuteFTP, TurboGopher... ~ Download from -> ftp.rdrop.com /pub/users/bbrace Download from -> ftp.eskimo.com /u/b/bbrace Download from -> hotline://artlyin.ftr.va.com.au * Remember to set tenex or binary. Get 12hr.jpeg ~ E-mail -> If you only have access to email, then you can use FTPmail to do essentially the same thing. Send a message with a body of 'help' to the server address nearest you: * ftpmail@ccc.uba.ar ftpmail@cs.uow.edu.au ftpmail@ftp.uni-stuttgart.de ftpmail@ftp.Dartmouth.edu ftpmail@ieunet.ie ftpmail@src.doc.ic.ac.uk ftpmail@archie.inesc.pt ftpmail@ftp.sun.ac.za ftpmail@ftp.sunet.se ftpmail@ftp.luth.se ftpmail@NCTUCCCA.edu.tw ftpmail@oak.oakland.edu ftpmail@sunsite.unc.edu ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com ftpmail@census.gov bitftp@plearn.bitnet bitftp@dearn.bitnet bitftp@vm.gmd.de bitftp@plearn.edu.pl bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu bitftp@pucc.bitnet * * ~ Mirror-sites requested! Archives too! The latest new jpeg will always be named, 12hr.jpeg Average size of images is only 45K. * Perl program to mirror ftp-sites/sub-directories: src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/packages/mirror * ~ Postings to usenet newsgroups: alt.12hr alt.binaries.pictures.12hr alt.binaries.pictures.misc alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc * * Ask your system's news-administrator to carry these groups! (There are also usenet image browsers: TIFNY, PluckIt, Picture Agent, PictureView, Extractor97, NewsRover, Binary News Assistant, EasyNews) ~ This interminable, relentless sequence of imagery began in earnest on December 30, 1994. The basic structure of the project has been over twenty-four years in the making. While the specific sequence of photographs has been presently orchestrated for more than 12 years` worth of 12-hour postings, I will undoubtedly be tempted to tweak the ongoing publication with additional new interjected imagery. Each 12-hour posting is like the turning of a page; providing ample time for reflection, interruption, and assimilation. ~ The sites listed above also contain information on other cultural projects and sources. ~ A very low-volume, moderated mailing list for announcements and occasional commentary related to this project has been established at topica.com /subscribe 12hr-isbn-jpeg -- This project has not received government art-subsidies. Some opportunities still exist for financially assisting the publication of editions of large (33x46") prints; perhaps (Iris giclees) inkjet duotones or extended-black quadtones. Other supporters receive rare copies of the first three web-offset printed ISBN-Books. Contributions and requests for 12hr-email-subscriptions, can also be made at http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/buy-into.html, or by mailed cheque/check: $5/mo $50/yr. Art-institutions must pay for any images retained longer than 12 hours. -- ISBN is International Standard Book Number. JPEG and GIF are types of image files. Get the text-file, 'pictures-faq' to learn how to view or translate these images. [http://www.eskimo.com/~bbrace/netcom/pictures -faq.html] -- (c) Credit appreciated. Copyleft 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:18:47 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "subrosa@speakeasy.org" Subject: Subtext Reading Series, Seattle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subtext continues its monthly series of experimental writing with reading= s by Lidia Yuknavitch & Stacey Levine at the Richard Hugo House on Wednes= day, June 2, 2004. Donations for admission will be taken at the door on t= he evening of the performance. The reading starts at 7:30pm. Lidia Yuknavitch is author of three collections of short stories, _Her Ot= her Mouths_, _Liberty's Excess_, and _Real to Reel_ (FC2), and a critical= work, _Allegories of Violence: Tracing the Writing of War in Late 20th C= entury Fiction_ (Routledge). Founder of Chiasmus Press, and publisher of = Northwest Edge, she lives in Portland, OR. Stacey Levine lives in Seattle and is the author of the award winning _My= Horse and Other Stories_, and _Dra (a novel)_, both from Sun & Moon Pres= s. Her new novel _Frances Johnson_ is forthcoming from Clear Cut Press. The future Subtext 2004 schedule is: -July 7, 2004: Subtext 10th Anniversary Reading -August 4, 2004: Nathaniel Tarn & Janet Rodney (both New Mexico) -September 1, 2004 TBA -October 6, 2004 TBA -October 24, 2004 Critics as Performers #2: Marjorie Perloff & Charles Al= tieri (both Bay Area) at Henry Art Gallery -November 3, 2004 David Abel (Portland) and William Fox (New Mexico) For info on these & other Subtext events, see our website: http://www.spe= akeasy.org/~subtext Subtext events are co-sponsored by the Richard Hugo House. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:40:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Is this justified? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit verbal agreements pennies in a fountain sink written agreements clouds in a puddle shred ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:15:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Durgin Subject: Hannah Weiner's COUNTRY GIRL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kenning Editions is proud to announce the publication of: Country Girl by Hannah Weiner 32 pp. chapbook - hand printed sleeves - $8.00 Country Girl is the second of four journals poet and performer Hannah Weiner composed in the early 1970s, culminating in the hugely influential though currently out-of-print CLAIRVOYANT JOURNAL. The first of these four early journals, THE FAST, is still available from United Artists Books (see www.spdbooks.org). Kenning Editions are available from Small Press Distribution: www.spdbooks.org / 1-800-869-7553 You may also place a direct mailorder with the publisher by sending $8.00 payable to Patrick F. Durgin, per copy, postage paid. Durgin / Kenning, 1197 Euclid Avenue #C, Berkeley CA 94708. Special for Poetics List subscribers: with direct mailorder of COUNTRY GIRL, receive a copy of Kenning 12 / WAY for 1/3 off cover price. Kenning 12 is a double CD audio newsletter featuring new music, arhival recordings, and exclusive studio recordings of and by Hannah Weiner, Leslie Scalapino, Sawako Nakayasu, Amiri Baraka, Allen Ginsberg, Eileen Myles, Andrew Levy with Gerry Hemingway, and many others. Priced normally at $15.00, it will be sent with your copy of COUNTRY GIRL (via direct mailorder only) for a total cost to you of $18.00. (Kenning 12 is available on its own from Small Press Distribution, if you prefer.) Support you local independent bookseller with a purchase. And be sure to scold them if they do not carry Kenning Editions. Oh, and if you like what Kenning is up to, contribute large sums of your expendable income to see its efforts continue. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:48:41 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 5/31-6/2 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =B3 =8CTwo women within earshot/ proximate/ as argumentation/ and as argumentation, one says/ =8CFine snap/ peas,=B9/ And as argumentation, the othe= r says =8CYes,/ the old skills are coming back=B9=B9 =B2 --Marjorie Welish, from =B3Textile 16,=B2 in Word Group * Monday, May 31 Nick Flynn & Laurie Weeks Nick Flynn=B9s first book, Some Ether (Graywolf Press, 2000), a finalist for the L.A. Times Book Prize, won the PEN/Joyce Osterweil Award, a Discovery prize from The Nation, and the Larry Levis Reading Prize from Virginia Commonwealth University. Blind Huber, his second collection of poetry, appeared from Graywolf in 2002. He has been awarded fellowships from the Library of Congress and the Guggenheim Foundation, as well as an Amy Lowell Traveling Poetry Fellowship, which allowed him to spend the last two years moving between Italy, Ireland, and Tanzania. Another Bullshit Night in Suck City, a memoir about his father and homelessness, is due out from Norton in October. New York City writer and performer Laurie Weeks is currently finishing her book Zipper Mouth, a depressing novel about the triumph of th= e human spirit. She recently completed a collection of short stories, Debbie=B9= s Barium Swallow or I Know I am a Flower. A contributor to the screenplay for Boys Don=B9t Cry, Weeks toured the country in 1999 with Sister Spit, a group of girl-punk writers based in San Francisco. Her fiction and essays have appeared in such publications as The Baffler, Index, Nest, Art on Paper, Out, XXX Fruit, and The LA Weekly, among others. Her stories have been included in many anthologies, among them The New Fuck You: Adventures in Lesbian Reading and Fetish. Weeks writes regularly about art, including catalogue essays on the work of Nicole Eisenman and the videos of Cecilia Dougherty. She has appeared in many videos, most recently playing the role of Lance Loud in Cecilia Dougherty=B9s feature, Gone. Since 1993 she has produced and performed in the collaborative one-act play series, Summer of Bad Plays. Her play =B3Young Skulls II,=B2 based on the true story of teenage lesbian thrill-killers in Indiana, was produced at the WOW Cafe in NYC and in San Francisco at The Lab. Weeks has taught at The New School, the University of California at San Diego, and Cal Arts in Valencia, CA. Wednesday, June 2 Andrei Codrescu & Jonas Mekas Andrei Codrescu is a poet, novelist, and essayist, whose books include a novel, Wakefield (Algonquin, 2004), It Was Today: New Poems, Casanova in Bohemia, Alien Candor: Selected Poems 1970-1997, The Blood Countess, Messiah, The Hole in the Flag: An Exile=B9s Tale of Return and Revolution, Ay= , Cuba: a Socio-Erotic Journey, and Hail, Babylon: Looking at American Cities= . He is also a regular commentator on National Public Radio and has written and starred in the Peabody Award-winning movie, Road Scholar. He is MacCurd= y Distinguished Professor of English and Comparative Literature at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where he edits Exquisite Corpse= : a Journal of Letters & Life (www.exquisitecorpse.org). Jonas Mekas was born in Lithuania and came to New York in 1949 as a Displaced Person. He is the author of several volumes of poetry and prose in Lithuanian and English, an= d the editor of Film Culture Magazine 1945-1995. He was a film critic for the Village Voice for twenty years, and in 1962 he organized Film-Maker=B9s Archives. His films have won numerous national and international awards. Hi= s latest film is called As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses Of Beauty, and his latest book is Daybooks, a collection of poetry published this year by Portable Press at Yo-Yo Labs. * The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:37:34 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: Is this justified? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 verbose versus textose > verbal > agreements > pennies > in a fountain > sink > > written > agreements > clouds > in a puddle > shred -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:44:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: UbuWeb Subject: *** Massive Annual Book Party NYC: 32 Titles -- June 3 *** Comments: To: ubuweb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Roof Books, Ugly Duckling Presse, Granary Books, Qua, /ubu Editions & The Figures invite you to a book party at: LFL Gallery 530 West 24th Street New York City Thursday June 3, 2004, from six to eight * * * Mark McMorris "The Cafe at Light" Olivier Cadiot "Future Former Fugitive" Michael Gottlieb "Lost and Found" Jena Osman "Asterisks" Tomaz Salamun "Poker" Jen Bervin "Nets" Dmitri Prigov "Fifty Drops of Blood" Lev Rubinstein "Catalogue of Comedic Novelties" Charlie Foos "Bending Spoons" J. H. Prynne "Furtherance" Clark Coolidge "Mine: The One That Enters the Stories" Bill Berkson "The Sweet Singer of Modernism" Caroline Bergvall "Eclat" Barbara Cole "Situation Comedies: Foxy Moron" Jean Day "Linear C & The I and the You" Craig Dworkin "Smokes" Deanna Ferguson "Rough Bush and Other Poems" Robert Fitterman "This Window Makes Me Feel" Toadex Hobogrammathon "Name: A Novel" Robert Kelly "Cruise of the Pnyx" Madelyn Kent "São Paolo" Ira Lightman "Trancelated (from Coinsides)" Nicholas Moore "Spleen" Gustave Morin "Spaghetti Dreadful" Larry Price "Circadium" Lytle Shaw "Low-Level Bureaucratic Structures / Principles of the Emeryville Shellmound" Ron Silliman "The Chinese Notebook" Brian Kim Stefans "Gulf" & "Alpha Betty's Chronicles" Lyn Hejinian & Emilie Clark "The Lake" George Schneeman "Painter Among Poets" Bob Perelman & Francie Shaw "Playing Bodies" Maureen Owen & Yvonne Jacquette "Erosion's Pull" John Yau & Archie Rand "Movies As A Form of Reincarnation" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:50:09 -0400 Reply-To: jmagi@ccny.cuny.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jill Magi Subject: automated response Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I will be on vacation from 5/28-6/15 and will respond when I return. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please contact the receptionist at X241 and your inquiry will be directed to someone who can assist you. (This is an automatic message.) Jill Magi Academic Advisor The CCNY Center for Worker Education (212) 925-6625, X258 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:52:39 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Pierre Joris Profile on chicagopostmodernpoetry.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit please check out our newest profile on Pierre Joris Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU]On Behalf Of kari edwards > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:20 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Creek renamed in Burroughs' honor > > > http://transdada.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.ljworld.com/section/citynews/story/171264" > > > Creek renamed in Burroughs' honor > By Richard Gintowt, lawrence.com writer > Wednesday, May 26, 2004 > To some it's a ditch, a tributary or a concrete tunnel. > > But the East Lawrence stream officially is now Burroughs Creek, in > honor of famed Beat author William S. Burroughs, who once lived nearby. > > The U.S. Geological Survey Board on Geographic Names has approved, 7-0, > the proposed name change submitted last fall by the Lawrence City > Commission on behalf of the Brook Creek Neighborhood Assn. > > Formerly named the Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe Tributary, the new > Burroughs Creek will appear on the USGS National Map within a couple of > weeks. > > Roger Payne, executive secretary for the USGS Board on Geographic > Names, said the unanimous approval came after "surprisingly little" > debate. > > "I suspect that because of the nature of Mr. Burroughs and the > high-profile nature of the case, the board members probably had thought > about it many times well before the meeting," Payne said. > > The request received special attention, he said, because of Burroughs' > controversial reputation. In addition to his literary accomplishments, > Burroughs was a drug addict, a bisexual, and in his younger years shot > and killed his wife during a party stunt. > > The name change had some opposition in Lawrence, most notably from > Douglas County Commissioner Jere McElhaney, who said Burroughs promoted > a "revolutionary lifestyle." McElhaney contacted Payne prior to the > board's vote. > > Burroughs "had a certain group of followers ... which is fine; that's > their choice," McElhaney said. "But not everybody liked his books and > not everybody liked his writing and not everybody liked his lifestyle. > > To me, somebody's trying to put Burroughs up on a pedestal that he > should not be on." > Such views failed to sway the board. > > "Apparently there was no need to have much in the way of discussion > regarding his character," Payne said. > > Honoring the writer > The vote marked a victory for the Brook Creek Neighborhood Assn., which > had been pushing the name change in conjunction with a $3.9 million > city project to rebuild the stream to alleviate flooding problems. That > stretch of creek is being converted from drainage pipe to a natural > open stream in a project scheduled to be complete by January. > > Though the name change drew support from the Lawrence City Commission > and Lawrence Parks and Recreation Department, the Douglas County > Commission did not endorse the proposal, instead choosing to remain > silent on the matter. > > For longtime Burroughs friend and estate executor James Grauerholz, the > re-naming of the creek was not so much about celebrating Burroughs' > lifestyle as it was about his literary contributions and importance to > Lawrence's history. > > "This doesn't mean like, ‘The victory of the hippies' or something," > said Grauerholz, who wrote a letter to the City Commission in support > of the proposal. "Burroughs is not actually famous for accidentally > killing his wife or being a narcotics addict or being homosexual ... > he's famous for being a great writer, and because of that we know about > these other things." > > Kirsten Roussel, former president of the Brook Creek Neighborhood > Assn., has been following the proposal's progress from its inception > two years ago. > > "I'm very glad," she said. "I do recognize that Mr. Burroughs was a > colorful character, to say the least, but he is part of the history of > Lawrence, and this seemed a fitting way to memorialize that." > Burroughs, author of "Naked Lunch," lived out his last years in > Lawrence. Other cities he called home included New York, New Orleans, > Morocco and Mexico. > > He died in Lawrence of a heart attack on Aug. 2, 1997. He was 83. > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:08:55 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Schlesinger Subject: Fw: A moment of your time MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: anya lewin=20 To: anya lewin=20 Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: A moment of your time Dear Friends, I am forwarding a letter from my friend Redas Dirzys. He is an artist = and the head of an art school for 12 to 18 year olds in Lithuania. The = school is now under threat of closure under the false pretence of reorganization. In April of 2003 Steven Eastwood and I visited the school for 5 days. It = was an amazing experience and resulted in a 27 minute film called Different Systems of Chaos. I have made a website where people can download the = film (its in 3 parts but you still need a fast connection) in case you are interested in getting more of a feeling for the school. The address is http://www.yesandnu.com/Alytus.html. Sincerely, anya Here is the letter from Redas: Dear People of the World, My name is Redas Dirzys and I am an artist, and the head of the Art = School in the small town of Alytus of the small country Lithuania. First, I = want to announce worldwide more than just the fact of attempts of the local authorities to close the art school. The major thing I want to call your attention to is the license, arrogance and cynicism of the = functionaries, that you=B9re noticing around yourself too, and the mechanisms they are = using to highlight their power. This is not a fear of losing my job; please = don=B9t treat it as a desperate attempt to ask for a support of the school. The story is very simple: local authorities decided to close perfectly functioning schools for visual arts and for musical education and to = join them to the training school for folk crafts. The whole unit they decided = to call the Artistic Training Center. The basic thing of the whole reorganization is the appearance of the classical bureaucratic pyramid, = all under this mechanically made unit, with the main task properly to = properly administrate these bastard artists. The official motivations for this step is: better coordination of the = joint events of these three former institutions (common participation in city = or the state or international celebrations and projects) and better = opportunity to get bigger money from European foundations. The step is warranted on = the thesis that there is not such kind of infrastructure of the State Art Schools in the countries of EU, even they are trying to prove that the = EU officials are insisting not to support this kind of schools from the = state money and the mostly funny argument is: there is not such a kind of = schools in Denmark (Danish educational system is the standard for the Lithuanian educational system to be turned into. 10 years ago Danish experts were = the first to came to Lithuania with the money of European foundations to = ensure the way of Danish educational system to be taken as an example). The methods: the chief of city educational department issued the order = for the heads of the schools to prepare the documentation for the = reorganization of their institutions to look as they are asking for those themselves. I gave everything to the press what already means in this former soviet country that I have no chance to win that fight (anyway I=B9ve already = refused from the same amount of salary in a new planned Artistic Training = Center). So, I am turning all that activity to a biggest social performance I = ever did =AD to play the game till the end with the full spread of = imagination. I am inviting everybody to react to the fact in the way they find out convenient for themselves by writing the letters from abroad =AD to let = the authorities of the small city of the small country to be seen from a = wider prospective, or to propose them some much spectacular way to deal with = the artistic education. Anyway they are asking now for another alternative = ways what to do with the artistic education? Please use the following email addresses to send the letters: = info@ana.lt and saule@ana.lt . The addresses are from the local main daily of Alytus city and for a whole south Lithuanian region Alytaus Naujienos (Alytus = News) =AD the most influential for the region who have also kindly agreed to = work for that. Sincerely, Redas Dirzys=20 redas_dirzys@yahoo.com The head of Alytus Art School (still) =20 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:13:49 -0400 Reply-To: "[ : : BlazeVOX : : ]" Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "[ : : BlazeVOX : : ]" Organization: BlazeVOX Subject: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again Comments: cc: Kent Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone, For the first time ever our server crashed from an overflow of users = trying to access Kent Johnson's poem "Lyrical Poetry After Auschwitz, = or: "Get The Hood Back On." http://www.starcherone.com/kent.htm For a limited time this sneak preview will be available at Starcherone = Books website. A prominent=20 translator and critic has already requested to translate the poem into = Arabic. So get your read on and hold tight for the full issue.=20 http://www.starcherone.com/kent.htm http://www.starcherone.com/kent.htm http://www.starcherone.com/kent.htm Best, Geoffrey Geoffrey Gatza __o=20 _`\<,_=20 (*) / (*) =20 =20 + Avatar(TM) :life & death of Superman=20 ON SALE NOW http://www.cafeshops.com/blazevox.10298869=20 ++ BlazeVOX | Editor : http://www.blazevox.org=20 +++ Poetry USA | Bio : http://www.blazevox.org/gatza=20 ++++ BlazeVOX [books] : http://www.blazevox.org/books ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:26:16 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Hometown escapes: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hometown escapes: ************* Flood warning ************* 920 PM EDT Wed may 26 2004 The National Weather Service in Binghamton has issued a * Flash Flood Warning for... Luzerne County in northeast Pennsylvania * until 1215 am EDT * at 913 PM EDT...National Weather Service Doppler radar indicated very heavy rain was falling in western Luzerne County and also over east central Luzerne County...southeast of Wilkes-Barre. * Locations in the warning include but are not limited to Wyoming...Wilkes-Barre...Swoyersville...Sweet Valley...Sugar Notch...Stoddartsville...Shavertown...Preston...Plymouth...plains... Penobscot...Nanticoke...Muhlenberg...Luzerne...Larksville...Laflin... Kingston...Huntington Mills...Fairview Heights...mountain top... Fairmount Springs..Edwardsville...Dallas and Bear Creek. Some creek basins that may have imminent flood problems are Pine Creek...ashs West Branch...Rogers Creek and Shickshinny creek. Be especially cautious at night when it is harder to recognize the dangers of flooding. If flash flooding is observed act quickly. Move up to higher ground to escape flood waters. Lat...Lon 4128 7566 4115 7561 4106 7566 4118 7630 4126 7636 4138 7628 xpires:270415 gmt _ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:34:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nick Piombino Subject: Nick Piombino's ^fait accompli* Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit *fait accompli* http://nickpiombino.blogspot.com We are celebrating our first 100,000 hits with a day off (a rare event since our first "metered" day, 5/11/03.) *fait accompli* opened on 2/11/03. Thanks, if you've paid a visit. Please check us out if you haven't. Our bloglist is posted at the Electronic Poetry Center: http://writing.upenn.edu/epc/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:54:57 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Whoah. What are other people’s feelings on this piece? I’m willing to take Kent Johnson’s agit-prop indictment of the poetry-world to heart (however it may be constructed in the piece – academic, experimental, web-based, whatever); but it’s only a mirror-image of what I, and I’d suspect others, are already up to viz. an awareness of one’s complicity, not doing enough, etc – and I’m not American (or British). I know Johnson’s a provocative figure in American poetry (and in this list’s history), and no-doubt he’s the most outspoken critic (from the left) of the collusion of resistant/critical poetries and academic institutions and, well, modes of authorship which remain largely unchanged after L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E, and I’d like to see a full-blown discussion of the strengths, failings, etc, of his argument. Does the centripetal movement of poetic energies (around the individual author/name) which smacks of hypocrisy and acquiescence to some (including me at times – but then, I’ve got little at stake compared to many) need redress? I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s long been struck by the irony that many of the de-centered works one encounters (at least by what I would consider the canonical experimentalists -- Bernstein, Andrews, Silliman, Jarnot, to name a few I know of) tend to be instantly recognizable or bear the stamp, trace, and hell, whynotsayit, poetic VOICE of their author. Part of me thinks Johnson’s critique (as I continue to deploy ‘him’ as my critical shield) merely wants the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E crew to come out from behind the curtains, stand in a neat row, and read some sort of statement to the tune of “He, he, sorry folks, turns previous calls for the death of the author were exaggerated by some of us. Actually, we like our name recognition and quite enjoy the privileges, symbolic and otherwise, of being muckity-mucks. Thank you.” It’s kind of an old saw. Even in prose, zero degree writing shifts voicing away from a body onto the text or language, as such, but this shift doesn’t alter the material reality of production and distribution, or does it? This is a serious matter for anyone on the left who expects or would like poetry to do some serious work re: the social, no? (Come on you Marxists and Benjaminites!) Ron Silliman, has stated previously on his blog, that a poem is only fully meaningful, at least for him, when attached to (under) its maker’s name (and this against discussions of New Critical tendencies in his comments box of late; see also the little ‘contest’ he ran a few months ago on the subject). While at the same time he’s stated on his blog to the effect that he dislikes titles because they pre- or overdetermine the work’s possibilities for surprise, newness, and heterogeny (and, I think, all, or almost all of Silliman’s longer works bear this idiosyncratic stamp in the fact of their one-word titles). Anyway, I know almost zilch about theories of heteronymity (if that’s the word). Anyone want to jump in here? (and thanks for sticking it out for my whole post) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:15:10 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Boog City presents Combo and Michael Turlo Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Boog City presents d.a. levy lives: celebrating the renegade press in america This month's featured press: Combo (Providence, R.I) Thurs. June 3, 6 p.m., free Aca Galleries 529 W.20th St., 5th Flr. NYC Event will be hosted by Combo editor Michael Magee Featuring readings from: Katie Degentesh Drew Gardner Michael Magee Sharon Mesmer With music by Michael Turlo There will be wine, cheese, and fruit, too. Curated and with an introduction by Boog City editor David Kirschenbaum Directions: C/E to 23rd St., 1/9 to 18th St. Venue is bet. 10th and 11th avenues http://dept.english.upenn.edu/~wh/Combowww/ Next month: Talonbooks (Vancouver, British Columbia), July 1 -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcity.blog-city.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:13:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Hometown escapes; someone else's wiped out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "After Clinton's intervention of 1994, Haiti was left as a vacuum" http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/0000000CA411.htm At least 2,000 killed in Haiti, Dominica floods www.chinaview.cn 2004-05-28 10:36:35 ††††HAVANA, May 27 (Xinhuanet) -- The floods caused by rainstorms in the Dominican Republic and Haiti have killed at least 2,000 people,government institutions and humanitarian organizations revealed Thursday. ††††Last week, a fierce tropical storm lashed the Caribbean island of Hispaniola shared by the Dominican Republic and Haiti. The Soleil river originating from Haiti overflowed after days of heavyrains. ††††Rescuers have recovered 233 bodies in the town of Jimani, 280 km southeast of the Dominican capital of Santo Domingo. In addition, 122 people were taken to hospital, but about 375 people remained missing, the Emergency Operations Center (COE) said. ††††Dominican President Hipolito Mejia visited the area Thursday and declared it a disaster area and territory of public calamity. He ordered an official mourning day for the victims. ††††The Catholic Church, Dominican aid institutions and non-governmental organizations began to distribute clothes, food and medicines from the United States, the European Union, Canada and several South American nations. ††††The rainstorm also caused many deaths and damage in Haiti. Humanitarian and aid groups said it claimed 1,666 lives, and the number of the missing was still unknown. ††††The interim government and international agencies stepped up efforts to provide aid for several towns hit by floods and large-scale mudslides. International assistance has began to arrive in the country. ††††Haiti suffered much more serious damage. About 8 million peopleare in poverty, and only a quarter of them have drinking water. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:38:38 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Pam=20Brown?= Subject: a book question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Poetics USA, Can anyone tell me whether the title "Seven walks etc" in Lisa Robertson's book "Occasional work and seven walks from the office..." is also included in "Baja to Vancouver: The West Coast and Contemporary Art" Thanks, Pam Brown ===== Web site/Pam Brown - http://www.geocities.com/p.brown/ Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:12:12 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again In-Reply-To: <20040528025457.96004.qmail@web51510.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 28/5/04 12:54 PM, "andrew loewen" wrote: > Whoah. What are other people=92s feelings on this piece? Something I sent to another list: Hi Jeffrey I read it, and I wondered... I hate to say this, but the twist seemed a little glib to me, a little too easy. I'm all for our recognition of our own complicities, as Western bourgeois intellectuals, just as Orwell argues against the hypocrisies of bourgeois socialists in Road to Wigan Pier, but = - I wondered - Best A Alison Croggon Editor, Masthead=20 http://www.masthead.net.au Home page http://www.alisoncroggon.com Blog http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 00:21:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Renee Ashley Subject: Kleinzahler contact info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone has contact information for August Kleinzahler, would you be kind enough to backchannel me? Thanks, Renee reneea@verizon.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 00:36:51 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Platt Subject: Loreography MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 9. anguish suffered by many combatants stunning betrayal at the end the horrific consequences of the accounts in relating the adventures revealing several previously unknown aspects assume and exercise unaccountable power accoutrements with period photos of the subject and abundant detail development of strategy as the lynching by an enraged mob of subversion and sabotage and on events people camps countries inspire respect admiration and awe along with the recovery of 10. little-known but fascinating characters and extraordinary life of the childhood years with his family was in his own time ended but for the men and maps from the archives a tumult of mechanical warfare an illustrated and highly detailed look at the treatment of each other face to face were measurably inferior to those a vivid portrait of life they built exotic new machines and none as consistently misunderstood ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 07:37:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Annie Finch Subject: Dave Dellinger 1916-2004 In-Reply-To: <200405280404.i4S44t9X272920@mcsaix02.mcs.muohio.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Thanks for sending the Dellinger piece, Ron! He was a friend of my parents and this detailed appreciation evokes good memories and makes me grateful for those of that era who are still around and fighting the good fight-- Annie -- ___________________________________ Annie Finch http://www.anniefinch.com "The spiritual world is like the natural world-only diversity will save it." -Margot Adler ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:24:46 -0400 Reply-To: ron.silliman@gte.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Subject: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal Comments: To: WOM-PO , BRITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, nanders1@swarthmore.edu, new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, whpoets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal - DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer Friday, May 28, 2004 (05-28) 03:16 PDT SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The California Supreme Court is deciding whether to throw out the conviction of a 15-year-old boy who served 100 days in juvenile hall for writing a poem that included a threat to kill his fellow students. The case weighs free speech rights against the government's responsibility to provide safety in schools after campus shootings nationwide. Attorneys for the San Jose boy, identified as George T. in court records, described the poem Thursday as youthful artistic expression. One passage says: "For I can be the next kid to bring guns to kill students at school." Another reads: "For I am Dark, Destructive & Dangerous." "This is a classic case of a person expressing himself and trying to communicate his feelings through a poem," attorney Michael Kresser told the court, which gave no clear indication what it would do. A ruling is expected within 90 days. Chief Justice Ronald George and other justices wondered aloud whether George T.'s statements were protected speech because they were presented as verses in a poem. Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Laurence replied: "The First Amendment doesn't protect against criminal conduct." The law in question, usually invoked in domestic violence cases, carries a maximum one-year term for criminal threats that convey an "immediate prospect of execution." The lower courts found that this threat met that definition, a decision the boy's attorney argued was unfounded. Civil rights and free-speech groups were closely following the dispute. "At the heart of this case is the First Amendment right of any young person to explore the whole range of his emotions and experiences, and write about disturbing subject matter without fear that he will be punished should his work be misinterpreted," said Ann Brick, an American Civil Liberties Union attorney. A student frightened by the poem notified a teacher, who called police. The boy, now 18, was arrested the next day and expelled from Santa Teresa High in San Jose. Justice Marvin Baxter was unsure whether the justices could second-guess the lower courts. "How can we conclude that the threat was unequivocal?" Justice Joyce Kennard suggested there was no immediacy to the threat and therefore no crime was committed. "The poem doesn't say 'I will be the next kid to bring guns to school.' It says, 'I can."' Justice Janice Rogers Brown said the First Amendment doesn't shield works of art with unlawful intentions. She asked whether a bank robber could be immune from charges for giving a bank teller this note: "Roses are red. Violets are blue. Give me the money or I'll shoot you." Speaking for the state, Laurence said the boy's poem cannot be analyzed in a vacuum. The boy passed the poem to a girl in his English class 11 days after a student killed two classmates and wounded 13 others at Santana High School in Santee on March 5, 2001. "You have to look at it all in context," Laurence said. Kresser said after the hour-long hearing that the boy's prosecution was an exaggerated response to Santee as well as the 1999 Columbine High student shooting that left 15 dead, and other student attacks. Outside of court, Laurence said the case might have been harder to prove if the poem was written in a poetry class, or the events at Santee had not just occurred. In one of California's first attempts to prosecute a schoolchild under the criminal threats statute in 2002, a Sacramento-based appeals court overturned a boy's conviction for drawing a picture of a police officer being shot in the head. That boy was previously arrested by the officer on drug-related charges, and he submitted the work to his art class. An appeals court ultimately reversed that conviction, saying there was no immediate threat of harm. Prosecutions of students under the statute are rare, but continue: on Wednesday, a 14-year-old boy was arrested at a middle school in the San Francisco suburb of Walnut Creek after posting a cartoon on the Internet with a caption that referred to a teacher, reading: "Maybe I should kill him and urinate on his remains." URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/05/28/nati onal0616EDT0498.DTL ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:12:36 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: reminder Michael Rothenberg and David Meltzer Reading June 01 in NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Meltzer and Michael Rothenberg read from their new books from La Alameda / University New Mexico Press Word Play Theater June 01 tue 7:30 pm $ 6. cover, Season passes $ 40. For more information call 1.212.262.4216 Medicine Show Theatre, 549 West 52nd St. (10th/11th), 3rd Floor, NYC 1001 ======================== Beat Thing is David Meltzer's truly epic poem - an engagement with history & his own participatory & witnessing presence. If the title at first suggests a nostalgic romp through a 1950s-style beat scene, it doesn't take long before mid-twentieth-century America's urban pastoralism comes apart in all its phases & merges with the final solutions of death camps & death bombs from the preceding decade. This is collage raised to a higher power - a tough-grained & meticulously detailed poetry - "without check with original energy," as Whitman wrote - & very much what's needed now. - Jerome Rothenberg The Beat Thing sizzles as close as yesterday-with landmarks, names, occasions-as Poet Meltzer writes us back into the beat. Everyone's still There. As fresh as ever. - Joanne Kyger David Meltzer has gifted us with his beautifully written kabalistic and unique look at the Beat Generation. He also turns his eye to the American infrastructure of Bebop. This book comes out of his mature consciousness like energy spray bursting from the brow of a dolphin. - Michael McClure David Meltzer's most important lyri-political work. A profound juxtaposition in which the Beat Movement's meaning is resonated with the haunting of the Holocaust and the American years of McCarthyism and Jim Crowism. Like all great works, this entire book is single simultaneous moment in progress, written by a poet who - in terms of the rhythms, verbal inventiveness and the naming of figures of popular culture - is without equal anywhere. - Jack Hirschman David Meltzer is one of the secret treasures on our planet. Great poet, musician, comic; mystic unsurpassed, performer with few peers. His "ear" like we used to say and his erudition are fine-tuned and precise. A kind of bop-perfection pervades this work. -Diane di Prima "how easily narrative falls into place, realizes itself through a story-telling historian who sets out to frame a tangled constantly permutating chaos into a familiar & repeatable story w/out shadows or dead-ends; how impulsively memory organizes into a choir to tell a story of what it remembers symphonically, i.e., formally; even experimentalists practice w/in or against forms that have formed their relationship to writing & telling stories; history is the story of writing" -Epilogue from Beat Thing David Meltzer is the author of many volumes of poetry, including The Clown (Semina, 1960), The Process (Oyez, l965), Yesod (Trigram, l969), Arrows: Selected Poetry, 1957-1992 (Black Sparrow Press, 1994), and No Eyes: Lester Young (Black Sparrow, 2000). He has also published fiction, including The Agency Trilogy (Brandon House, l968; reprinted by Richard Kasak, 1994), Orf (Brandon House, l969; reprinted by Masquerade Books, l995), Under (Rhinoceros Books, 1997), and book-length essays, including Two-Way Mirror: A Poetry Notebook (Oyez, 1977). He has edited numerous anthologies and collections of interviews, including The Secret Garden: An Anthology in the Kabbalah (Continuum Press, 1976; reprinted, Station Hill Press, 1998), Birth: Anthology of Ancients Texts, Songs, Prayers, and Stories (North Point Press, 1981), Death: Anthology of Texts, Songs, Charms, Prayers, and Tales (North Point Press, 1984), Reading Jazz (Mercury House, 1996), Writing Jazz (Mercury House, 1999), and San Francisco Beat: Talking With the Poets (City Lights, 2001). His musical recordings include Serpent Power (Vanguard Records, l968; reissued on CD in 1996) and Poet Song (Vanguard Records, l969). He teaches in the Humanities and graduate Poetics programs at the New College of California. He lives in the Bay Area. ================================= Unhurried Vision by Michael Rothenberg--Underneath the art of poetry exists the tradition of the journal-the attempt to capture and reveal the world as it passes by. Observations, reflections, and ideas accumulate to form connections and reveal process, content and story. Unhurried Vision is a record of the year 1999, and continues Michael Rothenberg's experiment with the journal. This is the year Philip Whalen became terminally ill and Rothenberg began taking care of him, pulled together Whalen's archives and library and edited his book of selected poems, Overtime. Political, personal, and romantic, Unhurried Vision works to savor the impermanent, looking at the moments in a poet's life, contemplating the body of experience. It is the mind on a quiet stroll through longing, loss and beauty. Unhurried Vision, a year in the life of Michael, is really a deeply loving celebration & farewell to mentor Philip Whalen, poet, roshi, & all around confounder of boundaries. A day-book; a non-epic odyssey through routes & roots of living & dying; a gastronome's pleasure dome, but above all a deeply stirred & stirring affirmation of poetry's centrality in realizing mundane & profound instances in the everyday extraordinary. Rothenberg's raw footage is disarming; sly, self-effacing, proclaiming, doubting, affirming. You can read it in one sitting, say blurboligists, but it takes at least a lifetime. & then what? -David Meltzer Born in Miami Beach, Florida in 1951, Michael Rothenberg is a poet and songwriter. He has been an active environmentalist in the San Francisco Bay Area for the past 25 years, where he cultivates orchids and bromeliads at his nursery, Shelldance. His broadside "Elegy for the Dusky Seaside Sparrow" was selected Broadside of the Year by Fine Print Magazine. The broadside of his poem "Angels" was produced in limited edition by Hatch Show Prints as part of The Country Music Foundation's museum resources. His songs have appeared in the films Shadowhunter, Black Day Blue Night and Outside Ozona. He is also editor and co-founder of Big Bridge Press and Big Bridge, an online magazine. Michael Rothenberg divides his time between Pacifica, California and Miami, Florida and is on the constant lookout for bottle caps and pennies for his son Cosmos. Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:19:24 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Barrett Watten MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If Barrett is on the line could you please contact me? If not, does anyone have his e-mail address handy? thanks, kevin -- --------------------------- Newfoundland Tories put culture in a COMA http://www.donotpadlocktherooms.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:52:13 -0400 Reply-To: richard.j.newman@verizon.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Richard Jeffrey Newman Subject: Call for papers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am forwarding the whole call for papers to this conference, but the = one that is relevant to this list is panel #2, North American Avant-Garde = Poetry Anthologies: Challenging masculinities and femininities Cheers! Rich Newman -----Original Message----- From: owner-profem-l@coombs.anu.edu.au [mailto:owner-profem-l@coombs.anu.edu.au] On Behalf Of l=E9o = thiers-vidal Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:14 AM To: profem-l@cairo.anu.edu.au Cc: nextgenderation@nextgenderation.net Subject: [PROFEM] TR : Masculinties, Femininities and Hybridities in US Culture (Spain) (10/15/04; 3/16/05-3/18/05) VII S.A.A.S. Conference. Ja=E9n, 16-18 March 2005 Call for papers The 2005 SAAS (Spanish Association for American Studies) Conference will be held in Ja=E9n, Spain, 16-18 March 2005. Within the theme "Masculinties, Femininities And Hybridities In Us Culture" the Program Committee invites colleagues to submit proposals for individual papers, on diverse aspects of this topic, within the panels proposed below. Please, send your proposed abstract directly to the Chair of each panel (via E-mail) by 15 October, 2004 (full papers should be sent by 15 February, 2005), completing the form at the end of the GUIDELINES FOR PARTICIPANTS below, after the list of panels. Should your paper not fit into any of the panels, you can send it to Prof. Francisco Collado's e-mail address (fcollado@unizar.es), for there will also be a miscellaneous panel for a limited number of selected proposals. Members of International Associations of American Studies are invited to participate. Conference fee: 110=80 (70=80 for SAAS members). Please, = check the SAAS Web page for further details: http://www.usc.es/ia303/saas/saas.html CONFERENCE ORGANIZERS: Dr. Nieves Pascual and Dr. Laura P. Alonso Gallo. Depto. de Filolog=EDa Inglesa. Facultad de Humanidades. Universidad de Ja=E9n. 23071 Ja=E9n (Spain). Tel: (0034) 953011830. Fax: (0034) 953012197. E-Mail: npascual@ujaen.es 1) Panel Chair: Laura P. Alonso Gallo Universidad de Huelva E-mail: laura@aduanavieja.com Title: Drawing Masculinities in Latino Caribbean Literature The literary representations of Caribbean masculinities within the grounds of social class, race, and sexuality bring forth an interesting forum of discussion. Experiences of displacement, immigration, exile, transculturation, family divisions, as well as linguistic and cultural uprooted-ness determine the representation of the Cuban, Dominican, and Puerto Rican man. The masculine ideology that Caribbean peoples bring to their new home in the U.S. appears either destabilized or reinforced in the new socio-cultural system. It is commonplace among writers of Hispanic Caribbean origin to question masculinity as an essentialist construction, offering an ample variety of situations and spaces where the masculine identity is defined. This panel will explore how traditional constructions of masculinity are represented, subverted, and politically contested in Latino Caribbean texts. Suggested topics: o Ethnic hyper-masculinity o Male archetypes and stereotypes o Masculinity and race o The figure of " el pinguero" o The figure of "el flaneur" o Masculinity and the abusive father/husband o Homoeroticism o Lies and deception o Masculinity and Cuban patriotism o Subversion of gender constructions o Masculinity and marriage o Masculine self-denial o Santer=EDa and Vodoo o Depression and suicide o Illness o Homophobia o Mothers fostering masculine ideologies o The masculine identity in domestic and social spheres o The ritual of dressing and grooming o Courting and seducing ---------------------- 2) Panel Chair: Manuel Brito Universidad de La Laguna E-mail: mbrito@ull.es) Title: North American Avant-Garde Poetry Anthologies: Challenging masculinities and femininities The central purpose of this panel is to discuss the methodological and conceptual issues developed by men and women poets in the edition of innovative and avant-garde North American poetry and poetics anthologies in the last three decades of the 20th century. These issues engaged men and women poets in a larger poetic discourse and progressive language practices. They were connected by a linguistically innovative work, offering an unusual perspective on otherness, objectification -relating words to objects, discursive practice of poetry, absence of final signification, textual resistance of the signifier, death of the author, and ideology. In formal terms, the lack of narrative structures, experimentation with the line and the sentence, as well as the frequent use of parataxis, created a strong sensation of emptiness, omissions and obscurities, and surrounding language. Sources for inspiration were found through other disciplines such as social theory, philosophy, linguistics, and art generated at both sides of the Atlantic. In this sense, anthologies published by women poets like Leslie Scalapino, Lisa Jarnot, Juliana Spahr, or Kristin Prevallet, and men poets like Edward Foster, Leonard Schwarts, Dennis Barone, or Christopher Beach invite reflections on their literary and intellectual correspondences. Were there limits to what one editor could include in her/his anthology? Were avant-garde poetry and poetics anthologies fundamentally different or were they simply limit cases of other poetic modes generated by men and women? The panel is designed to bring various scholars into conversation, and will attempt to reveal that anthologies were not only used as a cheap means of attracting a wider readership but also as a means to refine and enhance various joint poetic enterprises. The emphasis on the role of these anthologies will hopefully allow for a more fine-grained analysis of the transition from challenge to acceptance in both women's and men's innovative poetry. Suggested topics include but are not limited to: o Issues of the status of language. o Ways in which anthologizing mediates intention, notation and instruction. o The female and male "otherness" of the poetic work. o The relevance of particular choices in their reference to chronology, selected topics, and publication media (books, magazines, or electronic editions). --------------------------------- 3) Panel Chair: =C0ngels Carab=ED University of Barcelona E-mail: carabi@fil.ub.es Title: "Masculinities and Gender Relations in Contemporary US Women's Literature" In her seminal work Masculinity Studies and Feminist Theory: New Directions (2002), Judith Kegan Gardiner refers to what she sees as the main features of a feminist approach to masculinity studies. First, she argues that men, like women, are gendered beings. Gardiner also contends that both masculinity and femininity are social constructions that vary culturally and historically, that is, they are culture-specific and context-bound. At the same time, she acknowledges that masculinity is not a monolithic, static entity, but varies according to the particularities of race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, class, age, etc. Finally, she rejects essentialist approaches to gender whereby masculinity is seen as fixed by nature, and psychological or sociological laws. According to Gardiner, one of the central tenets of a feminist approach to masculinity studies is that both masculinity and femininity are mutually dependent and interrelated, rather than separate entities. In light of her comments, then, this panel will use a feminist perspective to explore the representations of masculinities and gender relations in contemporary women's literature. Special emphasis will be placed on women's literature which provides insightful critiques of traditional patriarchal values. More specifically, the session will explore the different ways in which contemporary American women's fiction re-presents both men's relationships with women and with each other. Finally, the panel will also discuss how masculinities and gender relations are determined by the specificities of race and ethnicity, sexualities, class, age, etc., and how fiction by women re-writes these interrelations. ----------------------------- 4) Panel Chair: Isabel Dur=E1n Universidad Complutense de Madrid E-mail: idurangi@filol.ucm.es Title: "Gender Issues in American Life-writing" Given that Life-writing is now a privileged site for thinking about issues of writing at the intersection of feminist, postcolonial, ethnic, identity, disability, masculinity, queer, and postmodern critical theories, among others, this panel will explore the presentation and the negotiation of sexual and gender identities and its rhetorical strategies in all kinds of life-writing (autobiography, biography, diaries, journals, letters, etc, but also all forms of personal representation in art and photography=85) in the American literary traditions of all times. Suggested specific topics include (but are not limited to): " The Poetics of Difference " "Autogynography" " Feminist Theory and Personal Narratives " Race, Ethnicity, Gender and Self-Portraiture " "Biomythography" " Private and Public Selves " Postmodern Geographies of Identity " Group Identity Politics " Feminist/Queer Aesthetics " Gay and Lesbian Lives " Disability, Aging, and Trauma Testimonios " "Autobiographics" " Writing the Male /Female/Hybrid Body " Mothers and Daughters; Fathers and Sons " The Strategy of the Other " De-Colonizing the Subject " The Unspeakability of the Subaltern " Spatiality and Gender Representation ------------------------------------ 5) Panel chair: Ram=F3n Espejo Universidad de Sevilla E-mail: respejo@us.es T=EDtulo: "Gender and/in Colonial America: Visions and Constructions of Gender in the Early Days of the Nation" This panel session would try to explore how gender was viewed, constructed or reflected in colonial North America. Among the questions which can specifically be addressed or explored are the following: 1. What patterns of masculinity and femininity did colonial writers (literary or otherwise) propose, attack, uphold, question or challenge? 2. How have modern times approached the colonial period of North America as far as gender was concerned (in films for instance)? 3. How have Gender Studies approached the period and what has their contribution been to unearthing the way gender images were articulated in the period? 4. What is the relationship between gender and the colonial mentality and how specific is the view/treatment of gender in a colonial society just on account of its being "colonial"? Contributions from many different fields can be accommodated in this panel session. I believe that the session would be greatly enriched by the coexistence of diverse approaches, from purely theoretical undertakings to more traditional explorations of social, literary, artistic or other aspects. --------------------------------------- 6) Panel Chair: Miriam Fern=E1ndez Santiago Universidad de Sevilla e-mail: mailto:alonso.gallo@dfing.uhu.es Title: Discursive and Physical Limits of Identity. Cyborgs and Gender Construction in US Culture. Before Michel Foucault theorized on the relationship existing between power and knowledge, it would have been at least awkward to think of our own epistemological and ontological identity as a power construct. Nowadays, recent research on biotechnology proves that Foucault's theories on the construction of identity have transcended the limits of mere consciousness to get comfortably installed in the physical body itself. The epitome of such installation is what we commonly know as cyborg; a hybrid of machine and organism that offers a postmodern alternative to modern essentialism and representationalism. The trope of the cyborg represents a physical and epistemological break signaling a "differential consciousness" that exists in a dynamic state of flux and development. It can stand for a kind of oppositional consciousness and practice that Chela Sandoval terms a "methodology of the oppressed" and which has characterized the political standpoint of various marginalized groups in the US. Donna Haraway has specially related cyborgs to the construction of female politics and identity on the basis of a multiple and contradictory perspective. The cyborg questions any identity built on the distinction between human being and machine, self and Other, or male and female, and theoretically should abolish any oppressive relation based on such dualistic distinctions. This panel will be dedicated to exploring the relevance of cyborgs in the construction of identity and gender relations in the US. Suggested topics: -Cyber-Eroticism -Cyborg Feminist Politics -Transgender Identity -Cyborgs and Postmodern Identity Construction -Textual Cyborgs -Cyborgs and Power -Cyborg Dystopias -Cyborg Democracy ------------------------------------- 7) Panel Chair: Mar=EDa Fr=EDas Universidade da Coru=F1a mariaf@udc.es Title: "Out of the Closet: Black Lesbians and Gays in African American Literature." Historically, literary criticism has paid little attention to black lesbians and gay men authors and/or characters in fiction. For the most part, and partially due to an overall homophobic attitude of the black community itself, they have been ignored, misrepresented, excluded, trivialized, and, at times, perceived as marginal, perverted, or sick. In the early Eighties, Ann A. Schokeley complained that "almost nothing [had been] written by or about the Black Lesbian in American Literature". However, in the late Seventies, Barbara Smith's groundbreaking work in claiming black feminism and/or black lesbianism for black women paved the way for serious studies on black queer theories. Most recently, canonized writers such as Alice Walker, Gloria Naylor, or Gayl Jones have dealt with black lesbian characters. In the same thread of thought, the biographies of blues women such as Billy Holiday or Bessie Smith openly show these women's sexual preferences. Black gay writers seem to have been more vocal than black lesbian women. Starting with writers from the Harlem Renaissance such as Langston Hughes, or McKay (among others), followed by James Baldwin, and contemporary writers such as E. Lynn Harris who continue that tradition, black gay writers seem to have focused on the four major themes that, according to Emmanuel Nelson, preoccupy the black gay writer: 1) the individual gay self, and the larger African-American community; 2) the devastating consequences of racism; 3) the pain and the possibilities of interracial love; and 4) the tragedy of AIDS. The aim of this panel is to examine, analyze, and discuss texts written by or about African American lesbians and gay men, in view of queer theory, as well as to examine critical studies on the co-existence of the two communities. Contributors are invited to reflect on and explore the following topics (among others): - Queer theory applied to texts written by or about black lesbians and gay writers. - Queer theory applied to auto/biographies of black lesbians and gay writers. - Critical response to queer texts, characters and/or writers. - Homophobic African-American community, black lesbians and gay men. - Definitions of masculinity/femininity within gay and lesbians couples - Coming out of the closet - Relationships with same sex whites- women or men. ----------------------------------------- 8) Panel Chair: Inmaculada Lara Bonilla Universidad Complutense de Madrid Syracuse University-Madrid E-mail: lbonilla@syr.edu TITLE: Lesbian Representation and Cultural Tropes This panel would address and contrast dominant and less dominant discourses dealing with the portrayal of lesbian women in contemporary US culture. It is envisioned as a multi-genre panel, including both critical and creative original contributions on the theme, as a display of, and reflection on, the cultural figure of the "lesbian woman" in the US. Suggested specific topics include (but are not limited to): o Postmodern forms of representation and conceptualization of the lesbian in literature, film, media, political discourse. o Mass culture assumptions on masculinity, femininity, homosexuality, lesbianism and motherhood applied and the figuration of lesbian women. o Texts and language-informed contexts through which the depiction of lesbian women has contributed to popular perceptions and the creation of dominant imaginaries on the lesbian. o Lesbian representation and consumer culture. o Lesbian women rhetoric(s) of self-representation. o Language, literature and imagery produced by lesbian women. o Texts dealing with stereotyping, lesbian women contesting dominant cultural tropes. o Possibilities of lesbian "narrative unity" (as described by Seyla Behabib) and for lesbian communities. o Possible specific lesbian attempts to rewrite US, and women's, cultural history. --------------------------------------- 9) Panel Chair: Silvia Mart=EDnez Falquina Universidad de Zaragoza E-mail: smfalqui@unizar.es Title: "Women, men, and two-spirit peoples: the construction and re/vision of Native American gendered ethnicity" The purpose of this panel is twofold. On the one hand, it seeks to explore the various ways in which gender and ethnicity interact in the construction of images of Native American women and men. On the other hand, it intends to examine the contemporary subversion and re/vision of those images by means of the berdache or two-spirit figure. Conventional definitions of gender and ethnicity have been constructed by means of borders-or rhetorical markers of difference-that radically differentiate and separate men from women, white from indian. These dichotomies originate in and reproduce certain structures of power that find a means of expression in prevailing conceptions of masculinity and femininity in combination with indian-ness. Thus, indian masculinity is ruled by the warrior image, whereas Native women are measured against the indian princess ideal, Tecumseh and Pocahontas serving as respective models for those images. After more than five centuries of cultural interaction in America, these fictions still help to construct reality by determining authenticity as defined by patriarchal and colonizing power. Together with this tendency, of utmost importance for the interpretation of Native American and US identity, in the past few decades we have been in the presence of a radical re/vision of gender by means of the recovery of the Native traditional berdache figure. The berdache refers to people of non-ambiguous biological sex who used to adopt occupations and demeanor akin to the gender most commonly associated with the opposite sex, and who acquired a different status from both men and women in their traditional societies. Not only has the berdache been recovered as a significant element of difference in relation to Western gender conventions and values by Native writers and scholars; it has also helped theorists from both Gender Studies and Gay and Lesbian studies prove that traditional definitions of gender as supported by the equivalence man=3Dmasculine/woman=3Dfeminine are simply inadequate. Contributors are invited to examine the different implications of these related tendencies in criticism, literature, film and popular culture. Issues to be dealt with include but are not limited to the following general headings: images of indian men, women and berdaches or two-spirit people; the ethics of Native American gender representation; the presence of the Native trickster's ambiguity, in-betweenness, and humor as a means of establishing or subverting gender and ethnic boundaries; the dialogue between gender representations of and by Native Americans. -------------------------------------------- 10) Panel Chair: =C1ngel Mateos-Aparicio Mart=EDn-Albo Universidad de Castilla-La Mancha E-mail: Angel.Mateos@uclm.es Title: "Hybrid Gender in Science Fiction" In its postmodern condition, science fiction has become increasingly aware of many of the most persistent obsessions of the current postmodernist cultural context. Its characteristic presentation of "other worlds" has been adapted to explore reality beyond previously existent boundaries, set classifications, clear-cut distinctions and, in general, all kinds of cultural preconceptions. In this context, women writing science fiction have used this imaginative impulse to create fictional hybrid-gender characters, thus bringing up the question of gender from this postmodernist, non-settled perspective. Moreover, the activity of women writers in a genre traditionally considered masculine can be seen as highly subversive both inside and outside the frontiers of the genre. In this sense, some contributions have been particularly interesting, such as Ursula LeGuin's The Left Hand of Darkness, Octavia Butler's Dawn and Joanna Russ's The Female Man. The main objectives of this panel could thus be: 1. To analyze in full the hybrid gender characters in relation to current theoretical descriptions/constructions of gender, in these writers or in other related science-fictional narratives. 2. To explore the culturally subversive implications of presenting characters whose gender is not clearly defined. 3. To illustrate how the presence of hybrid gender characters is bringing up the question of the construction of gender is Western culture. 4. To look into other fictional characters' and readers' reactions to the undefined gender roles and construction. 5. To explore the erotic and sexual implications of the confrontation with the hybrid gender characters. ------------------------------------------ 11) Panel Chair: B=E1rbara Ozieblo Universidad de M=E1laga E-Mail: ozieblo@uma.es Title: Strategies of Identity in US Theater Issues of both gender and race have been vital in creating and re-creating the concept of the American, that "new man," who is "free as he ought to be." In the twenty-first century, we can no longer speak as easily of gender, freedom and race as could Cr=E8vecoeur. Thus, this panel will examine the ways in which theatrical representation has contributed to the creation, deconstruction and re-creation of a recognizable [?] American identity in the twentieth century, focusing on dramatists who have struggled to subvert established dichotomies and who have courageously brought new topics and theatrical devices onto the stage. Suggested topics: " Does twentieth-century American theater present recognizable types? How are these used? " Subversion of the masculine/feminine stereotype on the Off and Off-Off-Broadway stage as compared to on Broadway. " The adoption of theatrical devices used to highlight such subversion (e.g. Vogel's use of the "Choir" in How I Learned to Drive . . . ) by playwright and/or director. " Performance and perversion of accepted codes of representation. " Revisions and re-assessments of traditional identities (e.g. Hester in Suzan-Lori Parks' Fucking A or Vivian in Margaret Edson's Wit . . .). " Reliance on others for one's sense of masculinity/femininity (e.g. Manuel's heartfelt confession: "She made me feel like I was nothing," in Cherrie Moraga's Shadow of a Man or Arthur Miller's Willie Loman . . . ). ------------------------------------------ 12) Chair: Viorica Patea Universidad de Salamanca E-mail: vioricap@usal.es Title: The I and the Other in the North American Short Story This panel will reexamine psychological and literary issues of identity in the North American Short Story. Papers are invited on all aspects that explore the encounter between the I and the other, the archetypal images of the "double", the "shade", the confrontation of otherness, the dialogical relations of selfhood, fe(male) constructions of identity, and the projections of fragmented identities and fragmented selves. Other possible topics also include, but are not limited to: o The poetics of the real and the fantastic. o Reality and hyper-reality, the hybridity of literary forms. o The transgression of literary conventions of the short story. ------------------------------------------ 13) Panel chair: Michael Rockland Rutgers University E-mail: rockland@rci.rutgers.edu Title: Gendering America This panel will look at ways in which the USA is seen, shaped, and formed through gender. My own presentation will be: "False Gendering of Domestic Violence in the United States." Domestic violence is exclusively seen in the US as an issue in which men are perpetrators, women victims, when actual statistics indicate a 60%-40% ratio of men to women as perpetrators/victims and vice versa. Both sexes are diminished by this false conventional wisdom. I plan to present clips from a recent Oprah television show on the topic as part of my presentation. Members of the panel will want to discuss other examples of gendering in North American life. For example: aesthetics. Henry James spoke in The American Scene of how American men were all "downtown" (business), American women all "uptown" (culture), and George Santayana wrote that the arts in the United States struggle between vernacular (male and American) and genteel (female and European) considerations. Other examples of gendering are: how domestic tasks are gendered; how public life is gendered; how fashion and beauty and the diet industry are gendered and, yet, with the advent of the new "Metro-sexual man," are becoming un-gendered; how American nationalism and public monuments are gendered. But these are just my own ideas. Any presentation which looks at how gendering affects culture in the United States, or even some comparison of gendering in the United States and in Europe, especially in Spain, would be welcome and would, I think, fit nicely into the general theme of the conference. ------------------------------------------- 14) Panel Chair: Santiago Rodr=EDguez Guerrero-Strachan University of Valladolid guerrero@fyl.uva.es Title: Male, Female and Hybrid Bodies The body has been seen as an extremely cultural artifact and as a site for cultural challenge as well. It has been approached variously since the Renaissance. Either viewed as a machine by scientists or as a model for social organization, the body has been understood as existing simultaneously in the natural and the cultural worlds. It has been theorized as a body-machine, or as artificial or fantastic creatures such as werewolves, golems, and vampires among others. From the scholar's point of view this raises two questions: How has the body been configured historically? What does it mean for bodies to be treated in this fashion? The panel invites proposals that study how the human body has been represented in Literature, Arts, Cinema, and Culture. Possible topics, though not restricted to, are: male and female identity as inscribed in bodies, representations of new creatures that challenge traditional concepts of masculinity and femininity, the gendered grotesque, representations of male and/or female non-human creatures, "The New Flesh" in Cinema and/or Literature, representations of freaks and other marginal creatures. -------------------------------------------------- 15) Panel Chairs: Antonia Sagredo Santos E-mail: asas0021@alerce.pntic.mec.es M=AA Luz Arroyo V=E1zquez E-mail: arroyolu@hotmail.com Title: "Outstanding Protagonists in the History of the United States of America". This panel aims at tackling some of the main prominent social and political leaders who have contributed to enhance the history of the United States of America. We want to focus our attention on the key role they have played on the founding and development of the US nation and even, we would like to underline the projection that most of them have had not only in the USA but also all over the world. Searching for an increasingly interdisciplinary academic world should be a challenging task for anyone who tries to offer a deeper and more complete view of US culture. We would like to be joined in this panel by contributors who deal with relevant aspects of those women and men who have been building this modern nation, the United States of America. Therefore, this panel will accept proposals which analyze any political, religious, labor or social protagonism in the history of the American nation. ------------------------------------------------ 16) Panel Chair: Bego=F1a Simal Gonz=E1lez Universidad de La Coru=F1a E-mail: mailto:ibarrola@fil.deusto.es Title: "Ethnic and Gender Hybridities in Contemporary US Literatures" The threshold or borderland in between the second and third millennia has been heralded by the consolidation of postmodernism and postcolonialism, while we have also witnessed the emergence of two other controversial post- phenomena: post-feminism and post-nationalism/post-ethnic theory. It is these last two -isms that the proposed panel intends to address. The aim of the panel is four-fold: 1st- to explore the negotiations within gender studies and ethnic studies, with particular attention to gender and ethnic crossings that inhere in a "hybrid" society 2nd- to look at the ways gender and ethnicity categories intersect, overlap, intertwine and interface each other 3rd- to provide illustrations of these "gender and ethnic crossings", on the one hand, and of the intersection of gender and ethnicity, on the other, in Asian American literary production 4th- last, but not least, to negotiate and delve into the import of these multiple (gender/ethnic) crossings as regards the concept of hybridity. --------------------------------------------- 17) Panel Chair: Isabel Soto Departamento de Filolog=EDas Extranjeras UNED E-mail: isoto@flog.uned.es Title: "The Dialectics of Diasporic Identification": Hybridity, Gender and Affiliation Paul Gilroy's phrase (Third Text 13 [winter 1991]) reminds us of the multiple ways in which the term 'diaspora' currently signifies. From its historical etymology derived from the Greek diasperien, from dia-, meaning 'across', and sperien, meaning 'to sow or scatter seeds', the term has over the centuries performed its own meaning, attaching itself now to Jews forced to live beyond the borders of Palestine, now to Africans forcibly displaced to the New World, and in today's global world scenario, speaking simultaneously to all displaced, migrant peoples of our planet, from Mexicans to Sri Lankans, Pakistanis to Romanians, Hondurans to North Africans. 'Diaspora', further, involves a process-or 'dialectics'-of interpellation: the individual is hailed, or summoned through location. This is geography in the service of subject formation. The contingency and provisionality of the arrangement is intensified by multiple variables such as history, unstable or decentered affiliations, ideology and gender. Hybridity, especially in its Bhabhian conception of "shifting forces and fixities" and its interrogation "of the images and presences of authority" (The Location of Culture), acquires heightened valence in our present context. This panel seeks contributions that engage with current formulations of the term 'diaspora' from within a theoretical context of ethnic, cultural and transatlantic studies. We welcome also enquiries into how the term productively intersects with constructions of sexuality and gender in US culture. -------------------------------------------- 18) Panel Chair: Miriam L=F3pez Rodr=EDguez Universidad de M=E1laga E-mail: miriamlopez1967@terra.es Title: Alternative Femininities in Nineteenth-Century American Theatre Nineteenth-century American theatre is usually dismissed by critics and scholars as second rate to that produced during the following century. However, it offers-from the point of view of Gender Studies-an interesting environment for the study of feminine stereotypes, from the upper class theater-goer to the reviled prostitute of the infamous third tier. Much has been written about these passive connections of woman with theatre, but women's relationship with the theater was not limited to spectatorship; many women-challenging societal prejudices-made a career in show business at a time in which the mere notion of women earning their living outside their home was shocking enough. Exposing themselves to the public, these women challenged the notions of piety, purity, submissiveness and domesticity that defined so-called True Womanhood, thus jeopardizing their chances of becoming socially acceptable. Whether working as managers, critics, dramatists or actresses, many women forged a career for themselves while, at the same time, they set the foundations for the theatre that women such as Susan Glaspell, Sophie Treadwell, and Rachel Crothers would work in during the following century. Although all the women working in nineteenth-century theatre shared some common features-they challenged conventions, they needed to earn a living-they should not be labeled as a homogeneous group. For example, novelist and amateur actress Louisa May Alcott made a point of changing social attitudes toward actresses and women working in show business in general, while dramatist Louisa Medina focused on society's prejudices against women and, although she suffered social rejection she never wrote about it. Actress-manager Nellie Boyd toured the American Southwest in an attempt to take theatre to the most remote areas of the country; meanwhile, actress Anna Cora Mowatt spent all her career acting in big cities and she gained a reputation as a dramatist writing about the urban upper middle class. Proposed topics: " Women's involvement in nineteenth-century theater: as actresses, dramatists, producers, directors, theater-managers. " Stereotypes of femininity: representation, presentation and subversion of the female image and identity. " Social prejudice against women in the theater. ---------------------------------------- 19) Miscellaneous Panel Send proposals for this panel to: Francisco Collado (fcollado@posta.unizar.es) ------------------- VII SAAS CONFERENCE: JA=C9N 16-18 March 2005 GUIDELINES FOR PARTICIPANTS - Abstracts of Proposals are to be e-mailed directly to the director of the selected panel using the form at the end of this document. The deadline for submitting abstracts is October 15, 2004. Panel directors are expected to accept/reject proposals and have panels set up by november 15. - Panels cannot have more than THREE contributions each. - The deadline for the submission of the final and complete version of papers accepted by panel directors is February 10, 2005. -All complete papers have to be submitted in electronic format to the panel director who accepted them. Please, include a brief CV of approx. 300 words, indicating your present affiliation and main publications. - Before the Conference, all the papers will be circulated among the panel participants. - The final version should never exceed 8 double-spaced pages (in Times 12). This is approx. 2000 words. Panelists will be talking for about 20' and there will be a final round of questions once panelists have presented their contributions. Panel directors are also expected to offer a brief summary and comments on the contributions to their own panels. - Panel sessions should not last more that one hour and thirty minutes. - All participants MUST have registered for the Conference ahead of time (see web page). - Panel directors are also expected to dissuade panelists from simply reading their papers. - If panelists need any equipment for their presentations, they should let their panel director know as soon as possible. Please, write here the title of your proposal: Author's Name: Academic Affiliation: E-mail: Panel: Abstract (400-600 words): Special requirements if any: Please, send your abstract in this form and in electronic format to the Panel Director of your selected panel. Deadline for abstract proposals is October 15 2004. Dr. Isabel Dur=E1n Depto. Filolog=EDa Inglesa II Facultad de Filolog=EDa Universidad Complutense 28040 Madrid (SPAIN) Tel. 3491 3945390 Fax. 3491 3945478 = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From the Literary Calls for Papers Mailing List CFP@english.upenn.edu Full Information at http://www.english.upenn.edu/CFP/ or write Erika Lin: elin@english.upenn.edu = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D _________________________ e-mail: owner-profem-l@coombs.anu.edu.au web: http://www.xyonline.net/misc/profem.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:12:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Re: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about George W. Bush threatening to kill someone, which he often does? Is he immune from prosecution because he's inarticulate? This case leaves much to the imagination. -Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:24 AM Subject: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal > Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal > - DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer > Friday, May 28, 2004 > > > (05-28) 03:16 PDT SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- > > The California Supreme Court is deciding whether to throw out the > conviction of a 15-year-old boy who served 100 days in juvenile hall for > writing a poem that included a threat to kill his fellow students. > > The case weighs free speech rights against the government's > responsibility to provide safety in schools after campus shootings > nationwide. > > Attorneys for the San Jose boy, identified as George T. in court > records, described the poem Thursday as youthful artistic expression. > One passage says: "For I can be the next kid to bring guns to kill > students at school." Another reads: "For I am Dark, Destructive & > Dangerous." > > "This is a classic case of a person expressing himself and trying to > communicate his feelings through a poem," attorney Michael Kresser told > the court, which gave no clear indication what it would do. A ruling is > expected within 90 days. > > Chief Justice Ronald George and other justices wondered aloud whether > George T.'s statements were protected speech because they were presented > as verses in a poem. > > Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Laurence replied: "The First Amendment > doesn't protect against criminal conduct." > > The law in question, usually invoked in domestic violence cases, carries > a maximum one-year term for criminal threats that convey an "immediate > prospect of execution." The lower courts found that this threat met that > definition, a decision the boy's attorney argued was unfounded. > > Civil rights and free-speech groups were closely following the dispute. > > "At the heart of this case is the First Amendment right of any young > person to explore the whole range of his emotions and experiences, and > write about disturbing subject matter without fear that he will be > punished should his work be misinterpreted," said Ann Brick, an American > Civil Liberties Union attorney. > > A student frightened by the poem notified a teacher, who called police. > The boy, now 18, was arrested the next day and expelled from Santa > Teresa High in San Jose. > > Justice Marvin Baxter was unsure whether the justices could second-guess > the lower courts. "How can we conclude that the threat was unequivocal?" > > > Justice Joyce Kennard suggested there was no immediacy to the threat and > therefore no crime was committed. "The poem doesn't say 'I will be the > next kid to bring guns to school.' It says, 'I can."' > > Justice Janice Rogers Brown said the First Amendment doesn't shield > works of art with unlawful intentions. She asked whether a bank robber > could be immune from charges for giving a bank teller this note: > > "Roses are red. Violets are blue. Give me the money or I'll shoot you." > > Speaking for the state, Laurence said the boy's poem cannot be analyzed > in a vacuum. The boy passed the poem to a girl in his English class 11 > days after a student killed two classmates and wounded 13 others at > Santana High School in Santee on March 5, 2001. > > "You have to look at it all in context," Laurence said. > > Kresser said after the hour-long hearing that the boy's prosecution was > an exaggerated response to Santee as well as the 1999 Columbine High > student shooting that left 15 dead, and other student attacks. > > Outside of court, Laurence said the case might have been harder to prove > if the poem was written in a poetry class, or the events at Santee had > not just occurred. > > In one of California's first attempts to prosecute a schoolchild under > the criminal threats statute in 2002, a Sacramento-based appeals court > overturned a boy's conviction for drawing a picture of a police officer > being shot in the head. That boy was previously arrested by the officer > on drug-related charges, and he submitted the work to his art class. An > appeals court ultimately reversed that conviction, saying there was no > immediate threat of harm. > > Prosecutions of students under the statute are rare, but continue: on > Wednesday, a 14-year-old boy was arrested at a middle school in the San > Francisco suburb of Walnut Creek after posting a cartoon on the Internet > with a caption that referred to a teacher, reading: "Maybe I should kill > him and urinate on his remains." > > > URL: > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/05/28/nati > onal0616EDT0498.DTL ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:40:47 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Amato Subject: left hand books in boulder, colorado, in trouble... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:29:20 -0600 >From: EUGENE RODRIGUEZ >Reply-To: lhb-announce-owner@yahoogroups.com >To: lhb-announce@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [lhb-announce] Left Hand Books needs your help > >Left Hand Books needs your help! > >LHB is in financial trouble. We are not in danger of closing >immediately, but we are on an unsustainable course. In recent months we >have had to use some of the money we have been able to put away in better >times, to help pay our current bills; but if we continue operating as we >have recently, we will eliminate this nest egg in about half a year. > >About a year ago we expanded the store in order to make more space >available for readings and other events, and to accommodate more stock. >However, book sales have not expanded in a commensurate manner and text >book sales have declined, leading to our problematic finances. > >We have decided to trim our expenses and to attempt some fund raising >activities, about which we will inform you in the near future. In the >meantime, you can help to keep this community resource alive by: > >1. Purchasing more books and magazines through Left Hand. You may be >able to save a little by purchasing some items elsewhere, but where can >you find the variety of "progressive" titles that Left Hand stocks? If >you teach or are a member of a reading group, ordering your books through >Left Hand will earn a 10% discount as well as helping the store. And >please recommend us to you friends and neighbors. Also, if you have >visitors who are likely to be sympathetic with the objectives of the >store, please bring them in for a visit - we're told over and over that >no store like Left Hand exists in city after city. > >2. Making a donation to the store. If you decide to make an outright >donation, please be aware that Left Hand is a not-for-profit (or >anti-profit) business, not a nonprofit, so that your donation will not be >tax deductible. As an alternative, you could take out a Left Hand >Associate membership ($25 regular or $10 low income) and earn a 10% >discount on all you purchases. > >3. Finally, if you have the time, please consider becoming a volunteer. >Volunteers are essential for keeping the store running, and thus receive >the greatest >discount that we offer: 20%. Also, volunteers make the decisions about >how the >store is run, so you would be able to directly impact the future of Left >Hand. > >Please help in the survival of our wonderful resource by actively >participating in one of the suggestions above. And please send this out >to any who you think would >be interested. > >The volunteers of the Left Hand Book Collective ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:19:55 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: kari edwards Subject: Sitting, Screaming About Everything In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is a review of iduna, O Books, 2003. a little shamless self promotation, yes.. and / but it is so well=20 written... kari edwards Sitting, Screaming About Everything kari edwards=92 latest cri de coeur sets sexist grammarians=92 teeth on = edge By BETSY ANDREWS Reading kari edwards=92 book =93iduna,=94 I thought about William Rund, = 32,=20 the =93tranny in the tree,=94 who, on Earth Day this year, along with=20 Christopher Montero, his 17-year-old lover, climbed a 55-foot larch in=20= Central Park and staged a four-hour erotic, anarchic showdown against=20 the NYPD. http://www.gaycitynews.com/gcn_322/sittingscreamingabout.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:49:57 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Walking Theories, Queer Constellations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Hi Andrew: Somehow, your post regarding the book on >>Cities, Queer space et >al, got disappeared. Can you resend it. I wanted to >>send the notice on to >Bob Gluck, a friend here in this City. Who I don't >>>think gives any time to >the B list. It's still here (I think. Isn't it?): http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0405&L=poetics&P=R29493&D=1&H=0&I=-3&O=D&T=1 ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:41:35 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christopher Leland Winks Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some thoughts on Andrew Loewen's thoughts on Kent Johnson: Johnson's piece worked insofar as it emphasized the pathology of "American" (read: US) normality in the torturers' cheerful talk-show monologues. Then, by bringing in the "poet"'s voice, it raised the nasty issue of class, through which so many nice, good-liberal university-educated and employed citizens distance themselves from the "trailer trash" who perpetrate such crimes. Interesting to see that Loewen considers the LangPoets as "canonical experimentalists." Revealing word, "experimentalist," especially as in their own ways, the post-Auschwitz, post-modern torturers at Abu Ghraib were "experimentalists" of inflicting pain and sensory deprivation (or would the average post-structuralist say, "bodily abjection"?). Johnson's poem is a fine warning against complacent indulgence in the kind of antiseptic, tedious, monolingual and mono-tonal Anglo-American (another way to conceptualize "the coalition" in poetic terms) gibberish that often surfaces on this list in the name of "innovative language." Regarding "modes of authorship," this is also part of the Abu Ghraib matter, where the "zero degree of writing (on the body)" translates into a "zero degree of responsibility" for the atrocities, from Bush and Rumsfeld to Karpinski and Sanchez to England and Sivits. No one wants to claim authorship, here, so the whole thing becomes a kind of "collective text," as decentered and, yes, experimental as the perpetrators wanna be. There are authors here, and if they may not necessarily be "dead," they're certainly in hiding. As for "theories of heteronymity," my advice is: read Fernando Pessoa, it's all there in practice. Christopher Winks ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:54:27 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Hilton Obenzinger Subject: Running Through Fire in NYC In-Reply-To: <20040528033838.81299.qmail@web12008.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed DRAMATIC READINGS Running Through Fire: How I Survived the Holocaust by Zosia Goldberg as Told to Hilton Obenzinger with Hilton Obenzinger Audrey Dundee Hannah of the Stanford Drama Department Paul Auster Zosia Goldberg Tuesday, June 1, 2004 7:00PM FREE HOUSING WORKS CAFE 126 Crosby Street NYC 212-334-3324 www.housingworks.org/usedbookcafe Wednesday, June 2, 2004 7:30PM $12/$15 door MAKOR / 92ND ST Y 35 W. 67th Street (Btwn Central Park West and Columbus Ave.) NYC 212-601-1000 www.makor.org From the Introduction by Paul Auster: I thought fast. I was lucky and got an idea. 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Associate Director for Honors Writing, Undergraduate Research Programs Lecturer, Department of English Stanford University 415 Sweet Hall 650.723.0330 650.724.5400 Fax obenzinger@stanford.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:07:16 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steven Shoemaker Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again In-Reply-To: <10c7ed310c2ca8.10c2ca810c7ed3@homemail.nyu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Christopher Winks wrote: Then, by bringing in the "poet"'s voice, it raised the nasty issue of class, through which so many nice, good-liberal university-educated and employed citizens distance themselves from the "trailer trash" who perpetrate such crimes. Most of the "liberals" I know are not buying this "trailer trash" scapegoating maneuver and wld like to see those at the top held responsible... Steve ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:16:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Boog City presents Combo and Michael Turlo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit renegade press it tightly do you believe you folk really's that' gone? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:32:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Christopher Winks wrote: “. . . torturers at Abu Ghraib were "experimentalists" of inflicting pain and sensory deprivation. . .” and “. . . a kind of "collective text," as decentered and, yes, experimental as the perpetrators wanna be. “It was the era of democracy in which the state of [the] art was the art of the state.” -- Kathy Acker ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:06:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Betsy Andrews Subject: review of kari edwards' "iduna" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Barring a few funky copyedits on GCN's part, I hope you all enjoy my review of kari edwards' awesome book, "iduna": www.gaycitynews.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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"Do you think just because I come from Carronshore I cannot fight? I shall hit you over the head with a cold potatoe." --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/04 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 15:08:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: this weekend each afternoon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the city for the VISION FEST? Come by this one in the afternoon... FUSIONARTS MUSEUM & STEVE SWELL (for more info: www.home.earthlink.net/~sdswell/) present 3rd Monthly=20 MUSIC IN THE AFTERNOON SATURDAY, MAY 29 3PM--ANDREW DRURY GROUP Taylor Ho Bynum, Adam Lane 4PM--RAS MOSHES' MUSIC NOW! 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(between forsyth and eldridge, 1 block below houston, f train to 2nd = avenue) $10 ADMISSION ----- FREE REFRESHMENTS!!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:03:09 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Robert Corbett Subject: Re: Open question for George Bowering (and everyone else). In-Reply-To: <20040522135732.30979.qmail@web51502.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Pick up the Postal Service, Give UP, and Death Cab for Cutie's new one if you like music from Seattle. I recently listened to the Nice, Five Bridges (an annual event). I am also trying to get into Franz Ferdinand, but it's not happening. And I am ashamed to admit that I don't like the new Outkast, except for Hey Ya. Robert --=20 Robert Corbett, Ph.C.=09=09"Given the distance of communication, Coordinator of New Programs=09 I hope the words aren't idling on the B40D Gerberding=09=09=09 map of my fingertips, but igniting the Phone: (206) 616-0657=09=09 wild acres within the probabilities of Fax: (206) 685-3218=09=09 spelling" - Rosmarie Waldrop UW Box: 351237 On Sat, 22 May 2004, andrew loewen wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, George Bowering wrote: > > > > Regarding Carl Peters' remark that rock stars are > artists etc. I > > figure he is trying to be silly or maybe > provocative. The electric > > guitar amped is easy to play, easy enough to do that > strumming they do in them punky bands. . . > > > I=92m curious. What are people on the list listening to > in May 2004? Particularly newish stuff. > > > Myself (all artists extensively available on file > sharing networks like Acquisition): > > Don Caballero =96 What Burns Never Return > The Ex Models =96 Other Mathematics > Do Make Say Think =96 Winter Hymn Country Hymn Secret > Hymn > Matmos =96 The Civil war > Young People =96 War Prayers > Shellac =96 1000 Hurts > Lightning Bolt =96 Beautiful Rainbow > Pretty Girls Make Graves =96 Good Health > Explosions in the Sky =96 How Strange, Innocence > Les Savy Fav =96 Inches > Marc Ribot/John Zorn =96 Masada Guitars > Modest Mouse =96 The Lonesome Crowded West > The Russian Futurists =96 Let=92s Get Ready to Crumble > > > > > > "I got wood legs and bow legs and no legs at all > Goddamn! Would you accept a collect call? > Oh no, I don't understand > I got sore eyes and poor eyes and no eyes at all > Goddamn! Would you like to take a fall? > No I don't like this plan > It was a staple of brass tacks and waxed backs > A memo left on the forehead of God > Sent sealed and signed by the saints who sang this > song: > "We're going union like they say > We'll buy the congregation > Then one day, you'll find us sitting > in your chairs with big ideas of stocks and shares." > > from "Beach Side Property" by Modest Mouse > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:12:38 -0400 Reply-To: Geoffrey Gatza Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Geoffrey Gatza Organization: BlazeVOX Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a response from Ethan Paquin Hi Kent, Yes, I saw it once it came out -- I really like it quite a bit, and think you've authored what is by far the most relevant poem for/in/about this War. Thanks for thinking of me. I strongly disagree with some of the sentiments -- Croggon's, I think, for example? -- e.g. the poem is "too easy." It is, to me, simply a poem that needed to be written to catalog this atrocity for future Americans/American Consumerists Around the Globe. "Easiness" is beside the point. And if it was so "easy," where have similar poems been for the past two months? I was thinking about issues like these (yes, I thought about the poem all day yesterday) as I drove home from work yesterday, equally excited that you'd written it and that Ted Pelton's site would get more hits from Geoffrey's temp posting of the poem there. The poem just struck me as the right thing to say, said in the right way. No lefty posturing; we're all guilty together. Again, it is a poem for our time. You may disseminate my reply if you'd like, but I thought you'd want to know -- not everyone out here is dissecting the thing, trying to fit it into some "tradition," playing academic, ad inf., etc etc...... I appreciate and admire the thing, is all. Yours, Ethan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:55:37 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Memorial Day Weekend & Iraq/ Thoughts Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Events in the prisons by our soldiers in Iraq (see article below on torture of Iraqi women prisoners) have certainly given a unique twist - at least in my memory - as to the significance of Memorial Day. In fact, courtesy of the poly-cylindrical character of the Internet, we can receive information from so many different global, geographic nodes, each carrying materials and views that either conflict, corroborate or put up a whole new angle on 'our' view on whatever the provocative circumstances. In light of example such as the new revelations of Iraqi women imprisoned, raped and subjected to other torture by our soldiers, I am wondering if the globe will evolve to a point where war Memorials will incorporate the memories of all sides of a conflict. Much, for example, today is made of the fact that the new WWII Memorial in Washington includes the acknowledgement of the contribution of the 50 States and six territories. In my perhaps innocent optimism, I wonder if the eventual memorial for this Iraq War will include the acknowledgement of the torture of these men and women Iraqi prisoners whose abused conditions once globally exposed became the turning point in the which the American people turned on the President and demanded an exit of its troops from an obvious disaster. My larger question is whether an eventual Iraq War Memorial will evolve to a point where such site will acknowledge all victims - both our own misled soldiers and those of the Iraqi resistance. The knowledge of what has happened in Iraq is so globally shared, it would seem entirely narrow minded or blind to not make the site be a healing one for those we have tortured and killed, and what all else we have contributed to destroy in heritage, cultural and otherwise of Iraq. If the America's refusal to acknowledge the gratuitous bombing at Hiroshima and Nagasaki is any guide,for example, I am not about to be optimistic. However, I do think the Internet is changing global consciousness in such a way - let alone the shift to an interdependent global economy - that these nationally self-serving Memorials will begin, indeed, to seem quaint. ("Quaint" in a much different sense than the President's lawyer use of the term to unilaterally disown the Geneva War Conventions on the use of torture on prisoners as a crime). Fundamentally here is a wish to collectively apologize and offer reparations for this killing, torture, and abuse. I wish there was one leader in this Government who could offer that. It's something I would certainly support -otherwise this nation is going to be festering and, I suspect, go badly in the world for a long time. Ah, with those dark thoughts, do have a good, as much as possible, weekend. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com >> The other prisoners >> >> >> Most of the coverage of abuse at Abu Ghraib has focused on male detainees. >> But what of the five women held in the jail, and the scores elsewhere in >> Iraq? Luke Harding reports >> Thursday May 20, 2004 >> >> >> The Guardian >> >> The scandal at Abu Ghraib prison was first exposed not by a digital >> photograph but by a letter. In December 2003, a woman prisoner inside the >> jail west of Baghdad managed to smuggle out a note. Its contents were so >> shocking that, at first, Amal Kadham Swadi and the other Iraqi women lawyers >> who had been trying to gain access to the US jail found them hard to believe. >> >> The note claimed that US guards had been raping women detainees, who were, >> and are, in a small minority at Abu Ghraib. Several of the women were now >> pregnant, it added. The women had been forced to strip naked in front of men, >> it said. The note urged the Iraqi resistance to bomb the jail to spare the >> women further shame. >> >> Late last year, Swadi, one of seven female lawyers now representing women >> detainees in Abu Ghraib, began to piece together a picture of systemic abuse >> and torture perpetrated by US guards against Iraqi women held in detention >> without charge. This was not only true of Abu Ghraib, she discovered, but >> was, as she put it, "happening all across Iraq". >> >> In November last year, Swadi visited a woman detainee at a US military base >> at al-Kharkh, a former police compound in Baghdad. "She was the only woman >> who would talk about her case. She was crying. She told us she had been >> raped," Swadi says. "Several American soldiers had raped her. She had tried >> to fight them off and they had hurt her arm. She showed us the stitches. She >> told us, 'We have daughters and husbands. For God's sake don't tell anyone >> about this.'" >> >> Astonishingly, the secret inquiry launched by the US military in January, >> headed by Major General Antonio Taguba, has confirmed that the letter >> smuggled out of Abu Ghraib by a woman known only as "Noor" was entirely and >> devastatingly accurate. While most of the focus since the scandal broke three >> weeks ago has been on the abuse of men, and on their sexual humilation in >> front of US women soldiers, there is now incontrovertible proof that women >> detainees - who form a small but unknown proportion of the 40,000 people in >> US custody since last year's invasion - have also been abused. Nobody appears >> to know how many. But among the 1,800 digital photographs taken by US guards >> inside Abu Ghraib there are, according to Taguba's report, images of a US >> military policeman "having sex" with an Iraqi woman. >> >> Taguba discovered that guards have also videotaped and photographed naked >> female detainees. The Bush administration has refused to release other >> photographs of Iraqi women forced at gunpoint to bare their breasts (although >> it has shown them to Congress) - ostensibly to prevent attacks on US soldiers >> in Iraq, but in reality, one suspects, to prevent further domestic >> embarrassment. >> >> Earlier this month it emerged that an Iraqi woman in her 70s had been >> harnessed and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib and another coalition >> detention centre after being arrested last July. Labour MP Ann Clwyd, who >> investigated the case and found it to be true, said, "She was held for about >> six weeks without charge. During that time she was insulted and told she was >> a donkey." >> In Iraq, the existence of photographs of women detainees being abused has >> provoked revulsion and outrage, but little surprise. Some of the women >> involved may since have disappeared, according to human rights activists. >> Professor Huda Shaker al-Nuaimi, a political scientist at Baghdad University >> who is researching the subject for Amnesty International, says she thinks >> "Noor" is now dead. "We believe she was raped and that she was pregnant by a >> US guard. After her release from Abu Ghraib, I went to her house. The >> neighbours said her family had moved away. I believe she has been killed." >> Honour killings are not unusual in Islamic society, where rape is often >> equated with shame and where the stigma of being raped by an American soldier >> would, according to one Islamic cleric, be "unbearable". The prospects for >> rape victims in Iraq are grave; it is hardly surprising that no women have so >> far come forward to talk about their experiences in US-run jails where abuse >> was rife until early January. >> >> One of the most depressing aspects of the saga is that, unaccountably, the US >> military continues to hold five women in solitary confinement at Abu Ghraib, >> in cells 2.5m (8ft) long by 1.5m (5ft) wide. Last week, the military escorted >> a small group of journalists around the camp, where hundreds of relatives >> gather every day in a dusty car park in the hope of news. >> >> The prison is protected by guard towers, an outer fence topped with razor >> wire, and blast walls. Inside, more than 3,000 Iraqi men are kept in vast >> open courtyards, in communal brown tents exposed to dust and sun. (Last >> month, nearly 30 detainees were killed in two separate mortar attacks on the >> prison; about a dozen survivors are still in the hospital wing, shackled to >> their beds with leather belts.) As our bus pulled up, the men ran towards the >> razor wire. They unfurled banners and T-shirts that read: "Why are we here?" >> "When are you going to do something about this scandal?" "We cannot talk >> freely." >> >> The women, however, are kept in another part of the prison, cellblock 1A, >> together with 19 "high-value" male detainees. It is inside this olive-painted >> block, which leads into a courtyard of shimmering green saysaban trees and >> pink flowering shrubs, that the notorious photographs of US troops >> humiliating Iraqi prisoners were taken, many of them on the same day, >> November 8 2003. A wooden interrogation shed is a short stroll away. As we >> arrived at the cellblock, the women shouted to us through the bars. An Iraqi >> journalist tried to talk to them; a female US soldier interrupted and pushed >> him away. The windows of the women's cells have been boarded up; birds nest >> in the outside drainpipe. Captain Dave Quantock, now in charge of prisoner >> detention at Abu Ghraib, confirmed that the women prisoners are in solitary >> confinement for 23 hours a day. They have no entertainment; they do have a >> Koran. >> >> Since the scandal first emerged there is general agreement that conditions at >> Abu Ghraib have improved. A new, superior catering company now provides the >> inmates' food, and all the guards involved in the original allegations of >> abuse have left. >> >> Nevertheless, there remain extremely troubling questions as to why these >> women came to be here. Like other Iraqi prisoners, all five are classified as >> "security detainees" - a term invented by the Bush administration to justify >> the indefinite detention of prisoners without charge or legal access, as part >> of the war on terror. US military officials will only say that they are >> suspected of "anti-coalition activities". >> >> Two of the women are the wives of high-ranking and absconding Ba'ath party >> members; two are accused of financing the resistance; and one allegedly had a >> relationship with the former head of Iraq's secret police, the Mukhabarat. >> The women, in their 40s and 50s, come from Kirkuk and Baghdad; none has seen >> their families or children since their arrest earlier this year. >> >> According to Swadi, who managed to visit Abu Ghraib in late March, the >> allegations against the women are "absurd". "One of them is supposed to be >> the mistress of the former director of the Mukhabarat. In fact, she's a widow >> who used to own a small shop. She also worked as a taxi driver, ferrying >> children to and from kindergarten. If she really had a relationship with the >> director of the Mukhabarat, she would scarcely be running a kiosk. These are >> baseless charges," she adds angrily. "She is the only person who can provide >> for her children." >> >> The women appear to have been arrested in violation of international law - >> not because of anything they have done, but merely because of who they are >> married to, and their potential intelligence value. US officials have >> previously acknowledged detaining Iraqi women in the hope of convincing male >> relatives to provide information; when US soldiers raid a house and fail to >> find a male suspect, they will frequently take away his wife or daughter >> instead. >> >> The International Committee of the Red Cross, whose devastating report on >> human rights abuses of Iraqi prisoners was delivered to the government in >> February but failed to ring alarm bells, says the problem lies with the >> system. "It is an absence of judicial guarantees," says Nada Doumani, >> spokesperson for the ICRC. "The system is not fair, precise or properly >> defined." >> >> During her visit to Abu Ghraib in March, one of the prisoners told Swadi that >> she had been forced to undress in front of US soldiers. "The Iraqi translator >> turned his head in embarrassment," she said. The release of detainees, >> meanwhile, appears to be entirely arbitrary: three weeks ago one woman >> prisoner who spoke fluent English and who had been telling her guards that >> she would sue them was suddenly released. "They got fed up with her," another >> lawyer, Amal Alrawi, says. >> >> Last Friday, about 300 male prisoners were freed from Abu Ghraib, the first >> detainees to be released since the abuse scandal first broke. A further 475 >> are due to be released tomorrow, although it is not clear if any of the women >> will be among them. General Geoffery Miller, who is responsible for >> overhauling US military jails in Iraq, has promised to release 1,800 >> prisoners across Iraq "within 45 days". Some 2,000 are likely to remain >> behind bars, he says. Iraqi lawyers and officials aredemanding that the US >> military hands the prisons over to Iraqi management on June 30, when the >> coalition transfers limited powers to a UN-appointed caretaker Iraqi >> government. Last week, Miller said "negotiations" with Iraqi officials were >> ongoing. >> >> Relatives who gathered outside Abu Ghraib last Friday said it was common >> knowledge that women had been abused inside the jail. Hamid Abdul Hussein, >> 40, who was there hoping to see his brother Jabar freed, said former >> detainees who had returned to their home town of Mamudiya reported that >> several women had been raped. "We've know this for months," he said. "We also >> heard that some women committed suicide." While the abuse may have stopped, >> the US military appears to have learned nothing from the experience. Swadi >> says that when she last tried to visit the women at Abu Ghraib, "The US >> guards refused to let us in. When we complained, they threatened to arrest >> us." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 09:16:29 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again Comments: To: Poetryetc In-Reply-To: <049b01c444f0$20376e80$ca5aa145@white2pimprza3> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 29/5/04 6:12 AM, "Ethan Paquin" wrote: > I strongly disagree with some of the sentiments -- Croggon's, I think, > for example? -- e.g. the poem is "too easy." Kent wrote: > Hm. I can honestly say that the last stanza was the hardest to write. > And it's the one that seems, from many of the reactions, to have > hammered the poem home. I was in the Poets Against the War anthology, > too, actually... And most of those other descriptions apply to me, as > well... > > But I am glad it made you "wonder," Alison. That would be the point, I > suppose. Hi Ethan and Kent: Maybe I've been reading too much Orwell lately, and the sentiment was too familiar: the issue of class, of bourgeois "progressives" who distance themselves from the trailer trash whom they find in fact disgusting, seems as relevant now as when Orwell spoke in the 1930s of English middle class socialists who on encountering actual working class persons found their class prejudices more embedded than they realised, and retreated straight into the charms of Fascism. And yes, anyone who is protesting this kind of stuff in the Western world has to acknowledge that the clothes one wears, the energy one consumes, the computer one writes on, the economy one lives in, is dependent on the exploitation of the poor, especially in countries far far away where desperate people slave in Nike factories in conditions that aren't very far from caricatures of 19C capitalist wickedness. One's complicity is inescapable. I was also thinking this morning that some things need to be said crudely because they are in fact crude. Still: I'll stick by my wondering (like the boy in Keats' poem). I am quite happy to wonder. I think, with Kent, that is a good thing; I should make clear that I am not attacking the poem. I meant "easy" not because I necessarily disagree with the thrust of the poem, but because a logical conclusion to draw from the poem is that any response to the outrages of one's government, as an intellectual, as a writer, is inevitably hypocritical. And this is so close to the kind of things that right wing commentators say about "chardonnay socialists" and wanker intellectuals in this country (Australia) that it gave me pause. Words and what one does with them, the exposure of murderous lies, matters very much: why would our governments spend so much ink and hot air justifying the credibility of their actions otherwise? And also: is a poem, even a "self righteous" poem, really equivalent to these acts of torture? (Though I can think of certain readings...) And also: does Kent's response of self disgust (for so I read it) stymie in some ways the possible humane and decent reaction to things like torture at Abu Ghraib? Because the humane and decent reaction stemming from a humane empathy is the only response that has the faintest chance of changing these things; that is, if it leads to action, which is not historically unprecedented. There's another point, which is the way the huge dissemination of those Abu Ghraib photographs made us all voyeurs, participants in the act of torture, simply by the act of looking: for by so looking, we extended the original act of torture, which was crucially about public humiliation, about being seen. That was one of the taintings which I found most difficult to negotiate about the whole business. In that sense, I would totally agree with Kent, but here the poem, not the act of looking, is an instrument of torture. Best A Alison Croggon Editor, Masthead http://www.masthead.net.au Home page http://www.alisoncroggon.com Blog http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:36:06 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: Croggon on Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Allison--- thanks for this--- a great line of thinking.... I'm very interested in exploring these questions you raise (which for me are relevant beyond considerations of the specific poem which I've not as of yet read---so for that reason what I have to say here will not be referencing the specific poem except in terms of the characterization of its position, which to me is a familiar one. So familiar in fact that it seems to characterize in many ways the impasse of much USA oppositional left writing/thought/speech, etc...) Certainly it's an issue I deal with in my writing--- The impulse being the humane empathy and/or the righteous or self-righteous poem.....or the way the humane empathy may move toward self-righteousness... Is this something to be avoided? Perhaps, ideally.... But CAN it be avoided, is another question. And if it CAN'T be avoided, should it be EDITED OUT? Those three questions, in succession, I think are at the heart of your post. I think for some people, people I admire immensely, it can be avoided-- or at least they are able to edit out in such a way that it seems it (the self-doubts, the self-consciousness, the "when you point the finger at someone else, you got 4 more pointing back at you," the fact or feeling of "complicity" you also mention in your post) never occured to the person. Yet for other people, or at other times, and for me personally, I have tremendous difficulty editing out the self-doubts, or what Blake might call THE IDIOT QUESTIONER, that (or who), makes me AT LEAST CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE analogy that I, or anyone, who speaks out of humane empathy, may in fact turn into his or her own enemy. Of course, ULTIMATELY, to say that writing a poem in protest of the US invation/occupation of Iraq is just as bad as torturing Iraqis is a futile, self-defeating gesture. BUT, as an example of SHOWING ONE'S WORK, as going through the changes on the issue and CONSCIENTIOUSLY considering one of the strongest OBJECTIONS that could be RAISED by the right-wing, etc., isn't it possible that it may actually STRENGTHEN the VALIDITY of one's position, and help ground that human empathy? It is not necessarily becoming a "native informer" to question the possibility, to temper the potentially dangerous lapse into dogma that could result from not questioning one's own position. In fact, I'd argue that perhaps the potential liability (in a world of sound bites and simple binaries) of self-doubting the strength of our own opposition to bush, etc., can be made into a great strength precisely because we can then say---UNLIKE BUSH ETC WE ACTUALLY CAN QUESTION OUR BELIEFS, AND MAKE THAT QUESTIONING PUBLIC, AND THEY STILL STAND UP UNDER SCRUTINY. I don't know, and don't even particularly care, if the poem in question is able to do that. I'm not trying to defend the poem, just trying to weigh in here with my own thoughts, and my own positions, on the questions you raise. thanks, Chris ---------- >From: Alison Croggon >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again >Date: Fri, May 28, 2004, 3:16 PM > > I am not attacking the poem. I meant "easy" not because I > necessarily disagree with the thrust of the poem, but because a logical > conclusion to draw from the poem is that any response to the outrages of > one's government, as an intellectual, as a writer, is inevitably > hypocritical. And this is so close to the kind of things that right wing > commentators say about "chardonnay socialists" and wanker intellectuals in > this country (Australia) that it gave me pause. Words and what one does > with them, the exposure of murderous lies, matters very much: why would our > governments spend so much ink and hot air justifying the credibility of > their actions otherwise? And also: is a poem, even a "self righteous" poem, > really equivalent to these acts of torture? (Though I can think of certain > readings...) And also: does Kent's response of self disgust (for so I read > it) stymie in some ways the possible humane and decent reaction to things > like torture at Abu Ghraib? Because the humane and decent reaction stemming > from a humane empathy is the only response that has the faintest chance of > changing these things; that is, if it leads to action, which is not > historically unprecedented. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 11:01:23 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Re: Croggon on Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem In-Reply-To: <200405290018.i4T0Iwao030432@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 29/5/04 11:36 AM, "Chris Stroffolino" wrote: > It is not necessarily becoming a "native informer" to question the > possibility, to temper the potentially dangerous lapse into dogma that > could result from not questioning one's own position. In fact, I'd argue > that perhaps the potential liability (in a world of sound bites and > simple binaries) of self-doubting the strength of our own opposition > to bush, etc., can be made into a great strength precisely because we can Hi Chris I hope I wasn't coming across as arguing that one should throw away self-doubt, or that it is wrong to rehearse these contradictions, which are real and troubling. I agree completely with what you're saying above. And yes, it's impossible to use words like "humane" and "decency" without being aware of their impeccable right wing lineage and usage - still, I think we have to hijack those words and use them for ourselves, most especially if we wish to speak beyond the circle of the already converted. It's a tactic Michael Moore uses with great effect, I think. And I think also that by keeping focus on the issues of injustice which underlie our instinctive protest at such crimes, we might be able to short-circuit the impasse which you point out. Ie, we should make ourselves free of intellectual embarrassment at the possibility of sounding naive. Best A Alison Croggon Editor, Masthead http://www.masthead.net.au Home page http://www.alisoncroggon.com Blog http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:31:02 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: The World's Largest Collection of the World's Smallest Versions of the World's Largest Things Traveling Roadside Attraction and Museum Comments: To: randomART@yahoogroups.com, WRYTING-L Disciplines , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The World's Largest Collection of the World's Smallest Versions of the World's Largest Things Traveling Roadside Attraction and Museum http://www.worldslargestthings.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 22:44:54 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Check out The Assassinated Press Comments: To: frankfurt-school@lists.village.virginia.edu, corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press U.N. 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The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:16:41 -0400 Reply-To: patrick@proximate.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Patrick Herron Subject: EKNT JOHASNOSN IS A TEREOTSUJISAST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit EKNT JOHASNOSN IS A TEREOTSUJISAST I CANOTSAIA SISYA ANIUGN HOW HE IS ,ALGINS THE SANDERWEOS WORULD THA SSANFEW PLACE KENTUYS JSUOSNS IS DOING SUS A IDSSSERVICE A DISSERFCEICVE I AM NOT A TERRIROSOT I AM NOT A ARABHATER I AM DOPING GOOD GOOD I AM APPOET ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS I HATE BUSH YOU KNOW ME IM A MENSCH WHAT ANM =I SAUPPOSED TO DO BLOW SHIT UP? HAVE YOU SEEHN MAK MAKS ANYWHEWR IT IS MISSING I CAN TAKE IT SOME MORE I LIKE TO GIVE AND TAKE KUBARK IS KUBARK IS KUCVBARK RUFF YOU UP LITTLE BABY SAFE IN YOUR MANGER FUCK YOU BACK TO INFANCY I NEED A TERRORIST THIS SUMMEWR GOTTA WIN THE ELECTION LETS BE REASONABLE DOGIE KENT JOHNSON IS A FUKJESIN PSYCHOTIC SPLITTER EVIL DOER HE'S EITHER WITH US OR GAGAGAINST US. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:18:21 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Croggon on Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>I think we have to hijack those words and use them for ourselves, most especially if we wish to speak beyond the circle of the already converted. It's a tactic Michael Moore uses with great effect, I think.>> Yes, and Michael Moore’s medium is documentary film of course, not poetry. And I think Moore makes great even necessary films but he does not make great Film. So be it, these days we need him more than most other directors. I think for many, poetry is too precious to be ‘deployed’ for agit-prop usage or in the service of any old-fashioned bearing witness. Anti-poetics are fine as long as they’re the sort read (and written) by people who appreciate good poetry. For another perspective on modes of political art, there’s a remarkable interview with Gillian Slovo on BBC 3’s Nightwaves (link below to listen) who, with former Guardian News foreign correspondent Victoria Brittain, has written the play “GUANTANAMO 'Honor Bound to Defend Freedom'” being presented by The Tricycle Theatre in London. The play’s dialogue is pulled from transcripts, letters, interviews with families of detainees, press conferences (by Rumsfeld et al) in lieu of interview refusals, and so on. It’s well worth giving the interview a listen (it’s the first item on Monday’s program and is available until next Monday’s program replaces it). [http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/speech/nightwaves.shtml – click on ‘Monday’ under ‘Listen to Broadcasts’ and then double click on the desktop file, you need a Real One Player] Finally: “Perhaps what we need to do, as poets, is plug our deepest recesses into that great and encompassing uncertainty, fear, paradox, and, yes, dark comedy of the current conjuncture and just see what happens. Allow our selves to be shocked and lit up by the horror. To be transformers, as it were. Needless to say, there are as many cords and plugs as there are snakes in Medusa's head; and there are as many open outlets as there are orifices in Hades. So while we must be bold, we need also, I suppose, to be careful and have the polished shield handy!” -- K. Johnson ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:39:49 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit there's no one there good! there's no one here... i remembermemorialday.....nite...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:44:34 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ....into summer we chase the drowned orb 14th to 8th on the st. grid ....into summer look within the eye to the burning sun again again... um....happy birthday to moi...up up too early..drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 16:49:32 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Re: Croggon on Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem In-Reply-To: <20040529051821.46658.qmail@web51501.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 29/5/04 3:18 PM, "andrew loewen" wrote: > I think for many, poetry is too precious to be > =91deployed=92 for agit-prop usage or in the service of > any old-fashioned bearing witness. Anti-poetics are > fine as long as they're the sort read (and written) by > people who appreciate good poetry. I wasn't talking of poetry, but of the more general responsiveness to such questions such as torture. I realise this is a small point, but it nevertheless seems fairly important, since from what I said you seem to dra= w some fairly interesting conclusions about my own poetics. (Who are, btw, "people who appreciate good poetry" and what happens if anti-poetics gets into the hands of people who don't appreciate good poetry? Should readers who don't appreciate good poetry be forbidden from accessing such stuff?) Agitprop - like Brecht's lehrerstuck - has its place. But if you were familiar with my own work, you might understand that I do not generally write that kind of poem myself. I'll paste my own response to the Abu Grai= b torture pics, written when they first appeared in late April, below. I should say it's not typical of my own work, and the response I chose was du= e to a lot of doubts I have about the unintentionally exploitative nature of much poetry about atrocity. Also, the documentary plays now fashionable in Britain - the Hutton Inquiry show as well as the one you mention - do in fact do quite a lot of that "ol= d fashioned bearing witness". Best A FOUND POEM From the "Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual" CIA Interrogation training handbook "The purpose of all coercive techniques is to induce psychological regression in the subject by bringing a superior outside force to bear on his will to resist. Regression is basically a loss of autonomy." a person's sense of identity depends upon the continuity in his=20 surroundings habits appearance relations with others detention should be planned to enhance feelings of being cut off from anything known and reassuring threat of coercion weakens or destroys resistance more effectively than coercion itself the threat to inflict pain can trigger fears more damaging than the immediate sensation of pain if a subject refuses to comply=20 after a threat has been made it must be carried out or subsequent threats will prove ineffective pain that he feels he is inflicting upon himself i s more likely to sap required to maintain rigid position standing at attention sitting long periods the immediate source of discomfort not the questioner but the SUBJECT subject th sub exhaust internal motivational strength intense pain false confessions fabricated punishment unsettling interrogation situation ITSELF disturbing first time enhance effect disrupt radicallyfamiliaremotional psychological resistance IMPAIRED interval suspended animation psychological SHOCK paralysis TRAUmatic sub-traumatic EXPERIENCE explodes world familiar SUBJECT image HIMSELF world WORLDwordwlwrldwdw woewoewoew oooooo (at this moment the source is far likelier to comply) Alison Croggon Editor, Masthead=20 http://www.masthead.net.au Home page http://www.alisoncroggon.com Blog http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 03:04:30 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christine Murray Subject: Re: Kent Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem is up again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Kent, o dammit! When are you going to stop all this making people think out-loud?--when will you let go the jackhammer, cease blasting ground, tangling the snapping-wired boundaries of the known? Dear Kent, o think what terror might plague us if all the torn and privileged and then the literati, too, keep thinking out loud: our bathwater's going lukewarm or chaos: people might say what is really on their minds. Are you willing to be responsible if something crashes, shifts and changes enough to move outward from the capital of episteme? Dear Kent, o isn't it so much better if poetry just keeps some foaming status-quo afloat?--something that doesn't require fuck-words, fireworks, green, and/or greed, more or less "shock and awe," to measure, name and tame what is continually paradoxical in western humanistic thought? Dear Kent, o isn't the body so much better ignored? Dear Kent, o when will you fill the silences, the silences, the histories with more crakker-jacks? Dear Kent, o wake up wake up wake up rake up rank up it's time now now non non non Dear Kent onomatopoeianonononononononononononononononononononononoywis Dare Kent owowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowoyes --Well, I just wanted to say I think the BlazeVOX piece is great-- Chris http://texfiles.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 04:14:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Politics, poetics (reply to Alison Croggon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>I realise this is a small point, but it nevertheless seems fairly important, since from what I said you seem to draw some fairly interesting conclusions about my own poetics.>> I didn’t nor have I ever drawn any inclusions about your specific poetics. I was noting that lots of people think what Moore does is great, yet scoff at more directly political poetics. Which is fine, maybe even not of much interest – film and poetry are very different media – but I wasn’t implying that you are one such scoffer. >>what happens if anti-poetics gets into the hands of people who don't appreciate good poetry?>> I don’t know, probably lots of interesting things, but when I wrote “Anti-poetics are fine as long as they're the sort read (and written) by people who appreciate good poetry” I was being FACETIOUS, and, I suppose, implying that such a sentiment is at times buried in poetics which attack 'mainstream' avenues of resistence such as the 'poets against the war' homepage, or whatever. >>Also, the documentary plays now fashionable in Britain - the Hutton Inquiry show as well as the one you mention - do in fact do quite a lot of that "old fashioned bearing witness". >> Yes, aren’t they quaint? Some things should be "fashionable" right? I hear protests and marches have come back into style. Satire, too, seems rather trendy. I'm okay with such fashions. I thought "Bowling for Columbine" was a mediocre documentary at best, and "Stupid White Men" can be read in 40 minutes w/o missing much, but I still praise Moore for both works. Sorry, I just realized maybe it was the title of the thread that has you thinking I was talking about your poetics - that makes sense! Whoops. best, Andrew. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 18:40:00 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Re: Croggon on Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem In-Reply-To: <20040529051821.46658.qmail@web51501.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 29/5/04 3:18 PM, "andrew loewen" wrote: > I think for many, poetry is too precious to be > =91deployed=92 for agit-prop usage or in the service of > any old-fashioned bearing witness. >>> Also, the documentary plays now fashionable in > Britain - the Hutton Inquiry > show as well as the one you mention - do in fact do > quite a lot of that "old > fashioned bearing witness". >> >=20 > Yes, arena they quaint? Isn't the idea that poetry is "precious" also rather quaint? Or was that humour too? Perhaps irony marks should make a triumphant return. Debate seems to be following, perhaps inevitably, several polarisations and simplifications. I have no interest in attacking Kent's poem, it is what i= t is. Nor am I interested in attacking Kent. I am interested in some of the issues the poem (consciously) provokes and sought some untangling more interesting than this for/against kind of model which seems t be unfolding. I am deeply interested in the politics of poetry, and often find the question troubling. If you take it that I am sneering at directly politica= l poems or other works of art, you are mistaken. But I am wary of the many traps such art can fall into. Not uncoincidentally, I am listening to Eisler's "An Anti-Fascist Cantata", condemned by the Nazis as "degenerate" art. Lyrics are by Brecht. It seem= s to me a very successful political work of art. Brecht of course is bracingly free from self-flagellating doubt (whether that was wholly a good thing is another question), and doesn't mistake artistic angst for other kinds of suffering. Some excerpts from the libretto: - How's the war going? - Yesterday they bombed another hospital. - Who? - The ones who want to take civilisation there. - When do the rains start again? - In May. - Not until May? - The generals say that they want to defend civilisation! - What sort of civilisation? - The generals' one. Epilogue: See our children. Stunned and bloody-faced freed from a frozen tank, see them come. Even the vicious wolf must have a place to hide in. Warm them, they are going numb. See our children. (Willett/Manheim translation) Best A Alison Croggon Editor, Masthead=20 http://www.masthead.net.au Home page http://www.alisoncroggon.com Blog http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 03:28:26 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Croggon on Johnson's Abu Ghraib poem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eat it the anti of ut then hear roscoe solo on his solo or kid talk of horse racing after the gig ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 07:25:55 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Re: Memorial Day Weekend & Iraq/ Thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen: I hear that to an Iraqi, a woman in prison is assumed to have been raped. Even if her headscarf is removed, it is a form of disgrace tantamount to rape. This is not to say that rapes didn't occur, just that rumors may pollute the facts, which are condemning enough. As for war memorials honoring both sides, I fully agree. The problem with war memorials is that they are not enough against war, except, maybe, the Vietnam War Memorial, which seems, because it is just a overwhelming amount of names, no heroic man on a horse, no flag being planted, to have an anti-war, meaningless-of-it-all, effect on people. Yet most Americans learned nothing from that war. Nothing! And this seems to include John Kerry, who's caught up in the spirit of comradeship instead of in the insanity of war. -Joel > Events in the prisons by our soldiers in Iraq (see article below on torture > of Iraqi women prisoners) have certainly given a unique twist - at least in > my memory - as to the significance of Memorial Day. > > In fact, courtesy of the poly-cylindrical character of the Internet, we can > receive information from so many different global, geographic nodes, each > carrying materials and views that either conflict, corroborate or put up a > whole new angle on 'our' view on whatever the provocative circumstances. > > In light of example such as the new revelations of Iraqi women imprisoned, > raped and subjected to other torture by our soldiers, I am wondering if the > globe will evolve to a point where war Memorials will incorporate the > memories of all sides of a conflict. Much, for example, today is made of the > fact that the new WWII Memorial in Washington includes the acknowledgement > of the contribution of the 50 States and six territories. In my perhaps > innocent optimism, I wonder if the eventual memorial for this Iraq War will > include the acknowledgement of the torture of these men and women Iraqi > prisoners whose abused conditions once globally exposed became the turning > point in the which the American people turned on the President and demanded > an exit of its troops from an obvious disaster. > > My larger question is whether an eventual Iraq War Memorial will evolve to a > point where such site will acknowledge all victims - both our own misled > soldiers and those of the Iraqi resistance. The knowledge of what has > happened in Iraq is so globally shared, it would seem entirely narrow minded > or blind to not make the site be a healing one for those we have tortured > and killed, and what all else we have contributed to destroy in heritage, > cultural and otherwise of Iraq. > > If the America's refusal to acknowledge the gratuitous bombing at Hiroshima > and Nagasaki is any guide,for example, I am not about to be optimistic. > However, I do think the Internet is changing global consciousness in such a > way - let alone the shift to an interdependent global economy - that these > nationally self-serving Memorials will begin, indeed, to seem quaint. > ("Quaint" in a much different sense than the President's lawyer use of the > term to unilaterally disown the Geneva War Conventions on the use of torture > on prisoners as a crime). > > Fundamentally here is a wish to collectively apologize and offer reparations > for this killing, torture, and abuse. I wish there was one leader in this > Government who could offer that. It's something I would certainly support > -otherwise this nation is going to be festering and, I suspect, go badly in > the world for a long time. > > Ah, with those dark thoughts, do have a good, as much as possible, weekend. > > Stephen V > Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > > > >> The other prisoners > >> > >> > >> Most of the coverage of abuse at Abu Ghraib has focused on male detainees. > >> But what of the five women held in the jail, and the scores elsewhere in > >> Iraq? Luke Harding reports > >> Thursday May 20, 2004 > >> > >> > >> The Guardian > >> > >> The scandal at Abu Ghraib prison was first exposed not by a digital > >> photograph but by a letter. In December 2003, a woman prisoner inside the > >> jail west of Baghdad managed to smuggle out a note. Its contents were so > >> shocking that, at first, Amal Kadham Swadi and the other Iraqi women lawyers > >> who had been trying to gain access to the US jail found them hard to believe. > >> > >> The note claimed that US guards had been raping women detainees, who were, > >> and are, in a small minority at Abu Ghraib. Several of the women were now > >> pregnant, it added. The women had been forced to strip naked in front of men, > >> it said. The note urged the Iraqi resistance to bomb the jail to spare the > >> women further shame. > >> > >> Late last year, Swadi, one of seven female lawyers now representing women > >> detainees in Abu Ghraib, began to piece together a picture of systemic abuse > >> and torture perpetrated by US guards against Iraqi women held in detention > >> without charge. This was not only true of Abu Ghraib, she discovered, but > >> was, as she put it, "happening all across Iraq". > >> > >> In November last year, Swadi visited a woman detainee at a US military base > >> at al-Kharkh, a former police compound in Baghdad. "She was the only woman > >> who would talk about her case. She was crying. She told us she had been > >> raped," Swadi says. "Several American soldiers had raped her. She had tried > >> to fight them off and they had hurt her arm. She showed us the stitches. She > >> told us, 'We have daughters and husbands. For God's sake don't tell anyone > >> about this.'" > >> > >> Astonishingly, the secret inquiry launched by the US military in January, > >> headed by Major General Antonio Taguba, has confirmed that the letter > >> smuggled out of Abu Ghraib by a woman known only as "Noor" was entirely and > >> devastatingly accurate. While most of the focus since the scandal broke three > >> weeks ago has been on the abuse of men, and on their sexual humilation in > >> front of US women soldiers, there is now incontrovertible proof that women > >> detainees - who form a small but unknown proportion of the 40,000 people in > >> US custody since last year's invasion - have also been abused. Nobody appears > >> to know how many. But among the 1,800 digital photographs taken by US guards > >> inside Abu Ghraib there are, according to Taguba's report, images of a US > >> military policeman "having sex" with an Iraqi woman. > >> > >> Taguba discovered that guards have also videotaped and photographed naked > >> female detainees. The Bush administration has refused to release other > >> photographs of Iraqi women forced at gunpoint to bare their breasts (although > >> it has shown them to Congress) - ostensibly to prevent attacks on US soldiers > >> in Iraq, but in reality, one suspects, to prevent further domestic > >> embarrassment. > >> > >> Earlier this month it emerged that an Iraqi woman in her 70s had been > >> harnessed and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib and another coalition > >> detention centre after being arrested last July. Labour MP Ann Clwyd, who > >> investigated the case and found it to be true, said, "She was held for about > >> six weeks without charge. During that time she was insulted and told she was > >> a donkey." > >> In Iraq, the existence of photographs of women detainees being abused has > >> provoked revulsion and outrage, but little surprise. Some of the women > >> involved may since have disappeared, according to human rights activists. > >> Professor Huda Shaker al-Nuaimi, a political scientist at Baghdad University > >> who is researching the subject for Amnesty International, says she thinks > >> "Noor" is now dead. "We believe she was raped and that she was pregnant by a > >> US guard. After her release from Abu Ghraib, I went to her house. The > >> neighbours said her family had moved away. I believe she has been killed." > >> Honour killings are not unusual in Islamic society, where rape is often > >> equated with shame and where the stigma of being raped by an American soldier > >> would, according to one Islamic cleric, be "unbearable". The prospects for > >> rape victims in Iraq are grave; it is hardly surprising that no women have so > >> far come forward to talk about their experiences in US-run jails where abuse > >> was rife until early January. > >> > >> One of the most depressing aspects of the saga is that, unaccountably, the US > >> military continues to hold five women in solitary confinement at Abu Ghraib, > >> in cells 2.5m (8ft) long by 1.5m (5ft) wide. Last week, the military escorted > >> a small group of journalists around the camp, where hundreds of relatives > >> gather every day in a dusty car park in the hope of news. > >> > >> The prison is protected by guard towers, an outer fence topped with razor > >> wire, and blast walls. Inside, more than 3,000 Iraqi men are kept in vast > >> open courtyards, in communal brown tents exposed to dust and sun. (Last > >> month, nearly 30 detainees were killed in two separate mortar attacks on the > >> prison; about a dozen survivors are still in the hospital wing, shackled to > >> their beds with leather belts.) As our bus pulled up, the men ran towards the > >> razor wire. They unfurled banners and T-shirts that read: "Why are we here?" > >> "When are you going to do something about this scandal?" "We cannot talk > >> freely." > >> > >> The women, however, are kept in another part of the prison, cellblock 1A, > >> together with 19 "high-value" male detainees. It is inside this olive-painted > >> block, which leads into a courtyard of shimmering green saysaban trees and > >> pink flowering shrubs, that the notorious photographs of US troops > >> humiliating Iraqi prisoners were taken, many of them on the same day, > >> November 8 2003. A wooden interrogation shed is a short stroll away. As we > >> arrived at the cellblock, the women shouted to us through the bars. An Iraqi > >> journalist tried to talk to them; a female US soldier interrupted and pushed > >> him away. The windows of the women's cells have been boarded up; birds nest > >> in the outside drainpipe. Captain Dave Quantock, now in charge of prisoner > >> detention at Abu Ghraib, confirmed that the women prisoners are in solitary > >> confinement for 23 hours a day. They have no entertainment; they do have a > >> Koran. > >> > >> Since the scandal first emerged there is general agreement that conditions at > >> Abu Ghraib have improved. A new, superior catering company now provides the > >> inmates' food, and all the guards involved in the original allegations of > >> abuse have left. > >> > >> Nevertheless, there remain extremely troubling questions as to why these > >> women came to be here. Like other Iraqi prisoners, all five are classified as > >> "security detainees" - a term invented by the Bush administration to justify > >> the indefinite detention of prisoners without charge or legal access, as part > >> of the war on terror. US military officials will only say that they are > >> suspected of "anti-coalition activities". > >> > >> Two of the women are the wives of high-ranking and absconding Ba'ath party > >> members; two are accused of financing the resistance; and one allegedly had a > >> relationship with the former head of Iraq's secret police, the Mukhabarat. > >> The women, in their 40s and 50s, come from Kirkuk and Baghdad; none has seen > >> their families or children since their arrest earlier this year. > >> > >> According to Swadi, who managed to visit Abu Ghraib in late March, the > >> allegations against the women are "absurd". "One of them is supposed to be > >> the mistress of the former director of the Mukhabarat. In fact, she's a widow > >> who used to own a small shop. She also worked as a taxi driver, ferrying > >> children to and from kindergarten. If she really had a relationship with the > >> director of the Mukhabarat, she would scarcely be running a kiosk. These are > >> baseless charges," she adds angrily. "She is the only person who can provide > >> for her children." > >> > >> The women appear to have been arrested in violation of international law - > >> not because of anything they have done, but merely because of who they are > >> married to, and their potential intelligence value. US officials have > >> previously acknowledged detaining Iraqi women in the hope of convincing male > >> relatives to provide information; when US soldiers raid a house and fail to > >> find a male suspect, they will frequently take away his wife or daughter > >> instead. > >> > >> The International Committee of the Red Cross, whose devastating report on > >> human rights abuses of Iraqi prisoners was delivered to the government in > >> February but failed to ring alarm bells, says the problem lies with the > >> system. "It is an absence of judicial guarantees," says Nada Doumani, > >> spokesperson for the ICRC. "The system is not fair, precise or properly > >> defined." > >> > >> During her visit to Abu Ghraib in March, one of the prisoners told Swadi that > >> she had been forced to undress in front of US soldiers. "The Iraqi translator > >> turned his head in embarrassment," she said. The release of detainees, > >> meanwhile, appears to be entirely arbitrary: three weeks ago one woman > >> prisoner who spoke fluent English and who had been telling her guards that > >> she would sue them was suddenly released. "They got fed up with her," another > >> lawyer, Amal Alrawi, says. > >> > >> Last Friday, about 300 male prisoners were freed from Abu Ghraib, the first > >> detainees to be released since the abuse scandal first broke. A further 475 > >> are due to be released tomorrow, although it is not clear if any of the women > >> will be among them. General Geoffery Miller, who is responsible for > >> overhauling US military jails in Iraq, has promised to release 1,800 > >> prisoners across Iraq "within 45 days". Some 2,000 are likely to remain > >> behind bars, he says. Iraqi lawyers and officials aredemanding that the US > >> military hands the prisons over to Iraqi management on June 30, when the > >> coalition transfers limited powers to a UN-appointed caretaker Iraqi > >> government. Last week, Miller said "negotiations" with Iraqi officials were > >> ongoing. > >> > >> Relatives who gathered outside Abu Ghraib last Friday said it was common > >> knowledge that women had been abused inside the jail. Hamid Abdul Hussein, > >> 40, who was there hoping to see his brother Jabar freed, said former > >> detainees who had returned to their home town of Mamudiya reported that > >> several women had been raped. "We've know this for months," he said. "We also > >> heard that some women committed suicide." While the abuse may have stopped, > >> the US military appears to have learned nothing from the experience. Swadi > >> says that when she last tried to visit the women at Abu Ghraib, "The US > >> guards refused to let us in. When we complained, they threatened to arrest > >> us." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 10:19:54 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Platt Subject: Loreography MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 11. during a period dominated by a candid and revealing portrait a month-by-month format in the end they became the totality of the physical of the men and women the first and most devastating and newly learned survival skills to summarize the horror of social movements biographies values wars the individuals on both sides tells how they were made a new story to tell the inner councils of war 12. uncovered the grisly truth about family women and business associates noted personalities from the fields one triumph after another but that had been extorting billions including many common situations such gangs who terrorized and controlled advice on safeguarding our lives illuminates the reality of life was it an accident or an out-of-wedlock child with recollections from a relationship as well as shocking revelations as a creator and promoter ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:32:11 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: b watten MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII thanks to all those who sent me Barrett's e-mail address. I just couldn't find it in the Wayne State World. cheers, kevin -- --------------------------- Newfoundland Tories put culture in a COMA http://www.donotpadlocktherooms.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 12:42:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ian VanHeusen Subject: Re: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed So... let me get this strait... a teenager expresses grief and hurt and expresses he might act upon that and instead of getting him "help," he is incarcerated for 100 days...Fuck free speech, what about compassion? What exactly is the reason for this kind of punishment? I imagine the only lesson the 15 year old learned was keep your mouth shut kid, and if you have those ideas it is best to keep them to yourself. In other words, repress your feelings. Score one for the United States. Ian ______________________________________________________ I judge judge. GS We don't need no government. VR What do you mean John 3:16, must of forgot in the world everyone packs an M-16... says the boy to the fiend, what do you mean? what do you mean? Wyclef >From: Joel Weishaus >Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Re: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal >Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:12:23 -0700 > >What about George W. Bush threatening to kill someone, which he often does? >Is he immune from prosecution because he's inarticulate? This case leaves >much to the imagination. > >-Joel > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ron" >To: >Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:24 AM >Subject: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal > > > > Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal > > - DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer > > Friday, May 28, 2004 > > > > > > (05-28) 03:16 PDT SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- > > > > The California Supreme Court is deciding whether to throw out the > > conviction of a 15-year-old boy who served 100 days in juvenile hall for > > writing a poem that included a threat to kill his fellow students. > > > > The case weighs free speech rights against the government's > > responsibility to provide safety in schools after campus shootings > > nationwide. > > > > Attorneys for the San Jose boy, identified as George T. in court > > records, described the poem Thursday as youthful artistic expression. > > One passage says: "For I can be the next kid to bring guns to kill > > students at school." Another reads: "For I am Dark, Destructive & > > Dangerous." > > > > "This is a classic case of a person expressing himself and trying to > > communicate his feelings through a poem," attorney Michael Kresser told > > the court, which gave no clear indication what it would do. A ruling is > > expected within 90 days. > > > > Chief Justice Ronald George and other justices wondered aloud whether > > George T.'s statements were protected speech because they were presented > > as verses in a poem. > > > > Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Laurence replied: "The First Amendment > > doesn't protect against criminal conduct." > > > > The law in question, usually invoked in domestic violence cases, carries > > a maximum one-year term for criminal threats that convey an "immediate > > prospect of execution." The lower courts found that this threat met that > > definition, a decision the boy's attorney argued was unfounded. > > > > Civil rights and free-speech groups were closely following the dispute. > > > > "At the heart of this case is the First Amendment right of any young > > person to explore the whole range of his emotions and experiences, and > > write about disturbing subject matter without fear that he will be > > punished should his work be misinterpreted," said Ann Brick, an American > > Civil Liberties Union attorney. > > > > A student frightened by the poem notified a teacher, who called police. > > The boy, now 18, was arrested the next day and expelled from Santa > > Teresa High in San Jose. > > > > Justice Marvin Baxter was unsure whether the justices could second-guess > > the lower courts. "How can we conclude that the threat was unequivocal?" > > > > > > Justice Joyce Kennard suggested there was no immediacy to the threat and > > therefore no crime was committed. "The poem doesn't say 'I will be the > > next kid to bring guns to school.' It says, 'I can."' > > > > Justice Janice Rogers Brown said the First Amendment doesn't shield > > works of art with unlawful intentions. She asked whether a bank robber > > could be immune from charges for giving a bank teller this note: > > > > "Roses are red. Violets are blue. Give me the money or I'll shoot you." > > > > Speaking for the state, Laurence said the boy's poem cannot be analyzed > > in a vacuum. The boy passed the poem to a girl in his English class 11 > > days after a student killed two classmates and wounded 13 others at > > Santana High School in Santee on March 5, 2001. > > > > "You have to look at it all in context," Laurence said. > > > > Kresser said after the hour-long hearing that the boy's prosecution was > > an exaggerated response to Santee as well as the 1999 Columbine High > > student shooting that left 15 dead, and other student attacks. > > > > Outside of court, Laurence said the case might have been harder to prove > > if the poem was written in a poetry class, or the events at Santee had > > not just occurred. > > > > In one of California's first attempts to prosecute a schoolchild under > > the criminal threats statute in 2002, a Sacramento-based appeals court > > overturned a boy's conviction for drawing a picture of a police officer > > being shot in the head. That boy was previously arrested by the officer > > on drug-related charges, and he submitted the work to his art class. An > > appeals court ultimately reversed that conviction, saying there was no > > immediate threat of harm. > > > > Prosecutions of students under the statute are rare, but continue: on > > Wednesday, a 14-year-old boy was arrested at a middle school in the San > > Francisco suburb of Walnut Creek after posting a cartoon on the Internet > > with a caption that referred to a teacher, reading: "Maybe I should kill > > him and urinate on his remains." > > > > > > URL: > > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/05/28/nati > > onal0616EDT0498.DTL _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 10:33:17 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: [news] Bush docterine: interview with Noam Chomsky Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/26380.php Bush Doctrine ; BBC Interview ; by Noam Chomsky and Jeremy Paxman If George Bush were to be judged by the standards of the Nuremberg Tribunals, he'd be hanged. So too, mind you, would every single American President since the end of the second world war, including Jimmy Carter. Bush doctrine: interview with Noam Chomsky Posted by: ron, Section: USA Posted on Thu May 27th, 2004 at 02:07:39 PM PST Bush Doctrine ; BBC Interview ; by Noam Chomsky and Jeremy Paxman ; May 21, 2004 If George Bush were to be judged by the standards of the Nuremberg Tribunals, he'd be hanged. So too, mind you, would every single American President since the end of the second world war, including Jimmy Carter. Bush Doctrine ; BBC Interview ; by Noam Chomsky and Jeremy Paxman ; May 21, 2004 If George Bush were to be judged by the standards of the Nuremberg Tribunals, he'd be hanged. So too, mind you, would every single American President since the end of the second world war, including Jimmy Carter. The suggestion comes from the American linguist Noam Chomsky. His latest attack on the way his country behaves in the world is called Hegemony or Survival, America's Quest for Global Dominance. Jeremy Paxman met him at the British Museum, where they talked in the Assyrian Galleries. He asked him whether he was suggesting there was nothing new in the so-called Bush Doctrine. NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, it depends. It is recognised to be revolutionary. Henry Kissinger for example described it as a revolutionary new doctrine which tears to shreds the Westphalian System, the 17th century system of International Order and of course the UN Charter. But nevertheless, and has been very widely criticised within the foreign policy elite. But on narrow ground the doctrine is not really new, it's extreme. JEREMY PAXMAN: What was the United States supposed to do after 9/11? It had been the victim of a grotesque, intentional attack, what was it supposed to do but try...? NOAM CHOMSKY: Why pick 9/11? Why not pick 1993. Actually the fact that the terrorist act succeeded in September 11th did not alter the risk analysis. In 1993, similar groups, US trained Jihadi's came very close to blowing up the World Trade Center, with better planning, they probably would have killed tens of thousands of people. Since then it was known that this is very likely. In fact right through the 90's there was technical literature predicting it, and we know what to do. What you do is police work. Police work is the way to stop terrorist acts and it succeeded. JEREMY PAXMAN: But you are suggesting the United States in that sense is the author of Its own Nemesis. NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, first of all this is not my opinion. It's the opinion of just about every specialist on terrorism. Take a look, say at Jason Burke's recent book on Al-Qaeda which is just the best book there is. He runs through the record of how each act of violence has increased recruitment financing mobilisation, what he says is, I'm quoting him, that each act of violence is a small victory for Bin Laden. JEREMY PAXMAN: But why do you imagine George Bush behaves like this? NOAM CHOMSKY: Because I don't think they care that much about terror, in fact we know that. Take say the invasion of Iraq, it was predicted by just about every specialist in intelligence agencies that the invasion of Iraq would increase the threat of Al-Qaeda style terror which is exactly what happened. The point is that... JEREMY PAXMAN: Then why would he do it? NOAM CHOMSKY: Because invading Iraq has value in itself, I mean establishing... JEREMY PAXMAN: Well what value? NOAM CHOMSKY: Establishing the first secure military base in a dependant client state at the heart of the energy producing region of the world. JEREMY PAXMAN: Don't you even think that the people of Iraq are better off having got rid of a dictator? NOAM CHOMSKY: They got rid of two brutal regimes, one that we are supposed to talk about, the other one we are not suppose to talk about. The two brutal regimes were Saddam Hussein's and the US-British sanctions, which were devastating society, had killed hundreds of thousands of people, were forcing people to be reliant on Saddam Hussein. Now the sanctions could obviously have been turned to weapons rather than destroying society without an invasion. If that had happened it is not at all impossible that the people of Iraq would have sent Saddam Hussein the same way to the same fate as other monsters supported by the US and Britain. Ceausescu, Suharto, Duvalier, Marcos, there's a long list of them. In fact the westerners who know Iraq best were predicting this all along. JEREMY PAXMAN: You seem to be suggesting or implying, perhaps I'm being unfair to you, but you seem to be implying there is some equivalence between democratically elected heads of state like George Bush or Prime Ministers like Tony Blair and regimes in places like Iraq. NOAM CHOMSKY: The term moral equivalence is an interesting one, it was invented I think by Jeane Kirkpatrick as a method of trying to prevent criticism of foreign policy and state decisions. It is a meaningless notion, there is no moral equivalence what so ever. JEREMY PAXMAN: If it is preferable for an individual to live in a liberal democracy, is there benefit to be gained by spreading the values of that democracy however you can? NOAM CHOMSKY: That reminds me of the question that Ghandi was once asked about western civilisation, what did he think of it. He said yeah, it would be a good idea. In fact it would be a good idea to spread the values of liberal democracy. But that's not what the US and Britain are trying to do. It's not what they've done in the past. Take a look at the regions under their domination. They don't spread liberal democracy. What they spread is dependence and subordination. Furthermore it's well-known that this is a large part of the reason for the great opposition to US policy within the Middle East. In fact this was known in the 1950's. JEREMY PAXMAN: But there is a whole slur of countries in eastern Europe right now that would say we are better off now than we were when we were living under the Soviet Empire. As a consequence of how the west behaved. NOAM CHOMSKY: And there is a lot of countries in US domains, like Central America, the Caribbean who wish that they could be free of American domination. We don't pay much attention to what happens there but they do. In the 1980s when the current incumbents were in their Reganite phase. Hundreds of thousands of people were slaughtered in Central America. The US carried out a massive terrorist attack against Nicaragua, mainly as a war on the church. They assassinated an Archbishop and murdered six leading Jesuit intellectuals. This is in El Salvador. It was a monstrous period. What did they impose? Was it liberal democracies? No. JEREMY PAXMAN: You've mentioned on two or three occasions this relationship between the United States and Britain. Do you understand why Tony Blair behaved as he did over Afghanistan and Iraq? NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, if you look at the British diplomatic history, back in the 1940s, Britain had to make a decision. Britain had been the major world power, the United States though by far the richest country in the world was not a major actor in the global scene, except regionally. By the Second World War it was obvious the US was going to be the dominant power, everyone knew that. Britain had to make a choice. Was it going to be part of what would ultimately be a Europe that might move towards independence, or would it be what the Foreign Office called a junior partner to the United States? Well it essentially made that choice to be a junior partner to the United States. So during the Cuban missile crisis for example, you look at the declassified record, they treated Britain with total contempt. Harold McMillan wasn't even informed of what was going on and Britain's existence was at stake. It was dangerous. One high official, probably Dean Atchers and he's not identified, described Britain as in his words "Our lieutenant, the fashionable word is partner". Well the British would like to hear the fashionable word, but the masters use the actual word. Those are choices Britain has to make. I mean why Blair decided, I couldn't say. JEREMY PAXMAN: Noam Chomsky, thank you. 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From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Stephen Harper: In his own =?ISO-8859-1?Q?words=2E=2E=2E_A_f?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ascist_in_waiting?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For those tempted to vote Conservative to get back at the Liberals, take a look at the statements from conservative leader Stephen Harper: In his own words... And oh by the way, he was very disappointed that Canada did not send troops to Iraq despite that fact that the vast majority of Canadians were opposed to doing that. MMN Compiled by Mark M. Persaud Human Rights Commissions: "Human rights commissions, as they are evolving, are an attack on our fundamental freedoms and the basic existence of a democratic society...It is in fact totalitarianism. I find this is very scary stuff." (BC Report Newsmagazine, January 11, 1999) On being 'libertarian' "But I'm very libertarian in the sense that I believe in small government and, as a general rule, I don't believe in imposing values upon people." (National Post, March 6, 2004) Economic conservatism, Harper says during an interview in his Calgary office, is libertarian in nature, emphasizing markets and choice. Libertarian conservatives work to dismantle the remaining elements of the interventionist state and move towards "a market society for the 21st century." (Toronto Star, April 6, 1997) Child Poverty: In 1997, Harper bragged that he was opposed to government programs to eliminate child poverty: "These proposals included cries for billions of new money for social assistance in the name of "child poverty" and for more business subsidies in the name of "cultural identity". In both cases I was sought out as a rare public figure to oppose such projects." (The Bulldog, National Citizens Coalition, February 1997) Universal Social Programs: "Universality has been severely reduced: it is virtually dead as a concept in most areas of public policy...These achievements are due in part to the Reform Party..." (Speech to the Colin Brown Memorial Dinner, National Citizens Coalition, 1994) Bilingualism: "After all, enforced national bilingualism in this country isn't mere policy. It has attained the status of a religion. It's a dogma which one is supposed to accept without question. ... [M]ake no mistake. Canada is not a bilingual country. In fact it is less bilingual today than it has ever been...As a religion, bilingualism is the god that failed. It has led to no fairness, produced no unity, and cost Canadian taxpayers untold millions." (Calgary Sun, May 6, 2001) Federalism: "It is imperative to take the initiative, to build firewalls around Alberta, to limit the extent to which an aggressive and hostile federal government can encroach upon legitimate provincial jurisdiction." (National Post, January 24, 2001, "Open Letter to Ralph Klein") "If Ottawa giveth, then Ottawa can taketh away... This is one more reason why Westerners, but Albertans in particular, need to think hard about their future in this country. After sober reflection, Albertans should decide that it is time to seek a new relationship with Canada. ...Having hit a wall, the next logical step is not to bang our heads against it. It is to take the bricks and begin building another home - a stronger and much more autonomous Alberta. It is time to look at Quebec and to learn. What Albertans should take from this example is to become "maitres chez nous". (National Post, December 8, 2000) "[T]he Liberals still insist on meddling in provincial jurisdiction in areas such as health care, education, and municipalities ....The federal government should refocus on its core areas of responsibility, and allow provinces to define their own priorities for their own societies. ... Stephen Harper would seek to recognize, through federal-provincial agreements, that areas of jurisdiction such as labour market development, forestry, mining, housing, recreation, and municipal and urban affairs are exclusive areas of provincial jurisdiction, and to adequately compensate the provinces for withdrawing federal spending in these areas." (Federalism for All Canadians, Stephen Harper Policy Paper, oneconservativevoice.ca, March 2004) "Whether Canada ends up as one national government or two national governments or several national governments, or some other kind of arrangement is, quite frankly, secondary in my opinion... And whether Canada ends up with one national government or two governments or ten governments, the Canadian people will require less government no matter what the constitutional status or arrangement of any future country may be." (Speech to the Colin Brown Memorial Dinner, National Citizens Coalition, 1994) On Atlantic Canada: "There is a dependence in the region that breeds a culture of defeatism," (CBC News, May 30, 2002) "I think in Atlantic Canada, because of what happened in the decades following Confederation, there is a culture of defeat that we have to overcome. ...Atlantic Canada's culture of defeat will be hard to overcome as long as Atlantic Canada is actually physically trailing the rest of the country." (New Brunswick Telegraph Journal, May 29, 2002) "There's unfortunately a view of too many people in Atlantic Canada that it's only through government favours that there's going to be economic progress, or that's what you look to ...That kind of can't-do attitude is a problem in this country but it's obviously more serious in regions that have had have-not status for a long time." (Toronto Sun, May 31, 2002) "I've taken my position and frankly it's the same position that I took all through the [Alliance] leadership race. I delivered [speeches] everywhere I went, including in the Maritime provinces on several occasions, about the spirit of defeatism in the country and what drives it and how we have to address it." (National Post, May 31, 2002) On Canadians: "I think there is a dangerous rise in defeatist sentiment in this country. ...I have said that repeatedly, and I mean it and I believe it." (Ottawa Citizen, June 3, 2002) "Canada appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status..." (National Post, Dec. 8 2000 p. A18) "Well I just want to assure you that those kinds of security concerns are widely shared here. Certainly the problems in our porous borders, our immigration system, there are things that we've been raising in the Parliament...Make no mistake, Canada, you know, with its limited resources, our soldiers made an adeq...admirable participation in Afghanistan..." (Interview with Sheppard Smith, Fox TV, September 13, 2002) "...there is a continental culture. There is a Canadian culture that is in some ways unique to Canada, but I don't think Canadian culture coincides neatly with borders." (Report Newsmagazine January 7, 2002) "We've just become increasingly irrelevant to a country [U.S.] that has a lot of priorities..." (CBC Newsworld, July 11, 2003) "I think in parts of the Prairies we are increasingly seeing similar views that there is no hope, there is no way forward, all we can do is negotiate with the party in power. So I think in any region where you have sustained under-development or lack of growth for a long period of time, this starts to develop... I'd say frankly, generally the kind of can't-do attitude is a problem in this country but it's obviously more serious in regions that have had have-not status for a long time." (Toronto Star, May 30, 2002) On Western Canadian society: "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001) Regional Development: "We have in this country a federal government that increasingly is engaged in trying to determine which business, which regions, which industries will succeed, which will not through a whole range of economic development, regional development corporate subsidization programs. I believe that in the next election we got to propose a radical departure from this." (Global News, February 24, 2002) Betty Granger: Betty Granger was one of three Harper leadership organizers in Manitoba. She is a past candidate from the 2000 election whose remarks about an "Asian invasion" created controversy: "I'm not doing witch-hunts on people's pasts... If someone does something wrong, there will be action taken. But if somebody doesn't do anything wrong, we're not going to take any action... I don't make volunteer field decisions... but Betty Granger is a riding president, a member in good standing. She's somebody that other members I've talked to think very highly of, and quite frankly, she was the victim of an unfair slur story in the last election campaign." (Calgary Herald, January 15, 2002) "Betty Granger is party president in the Winnipeg area and one of a large number of party presidents that are supporting this campaign. So, I think this kind of thing is just kind of a low-level form of McCarthyism." (CTV "Question Period", February 10, 2002) Spending Cuts: Harper incorrectly predicted that the annual cuts of up to $19-20 billion to federal expenditures proposed by the Reform Party would not be sufficient to eliminate the federal deficit: "The proposals we made during the election which many people considered drastic, are probably not now adequate to deal with this problem." (Montreal Gazette, November 30, 1993) "I do not intend to dispute in any way the need for defence cuts and the need for government spending cuts in general. ...I do not share a not in my backyard approach to government spending reductions." (Hansard, May 23, 1995) On the Iraq War: "I don't know all the facts on Iraq, but I think we should work closely with the Americans." (Report Newsmagazine, March 25 2002) "We should have been there shoulder to shoulder with our allies. Our concern is the instability of our government as an ally. We are playing again with national and global security matters.'' (Canadian Press Newswire, April 11, 2003) "On the justification for the war, it wasn't related to finding any particular weapon of mass destruction. In our judgment, it was much more fundamental. It was the removing of a regime that was hostile, that clearly had the intention of constructing weapons systems. ... I think, frankly, that everybody knew the post-war situation was probably going to be more difficult than the war itself. Canada remains alienated from its allies, shut out of the reconstruction process to some degree, unable to influence events. There is no upside to the position Canada took." (Maclean's, August, 25, 2003) "The world is now unipolar and contains only one superpower. Canada shares a continent with that superpower. In this context, given our common values and the political, economic and security interests that we share with the United States, there is now no more important foreign policy interest for Canada than maintaining the ability to exercise effective influence in Washington so as to advance unique Canadian policy objectives." (Canadian Alliance Defence Policy Paper: The New North Strong and Free, May 5, 2003) "This party will not take its position based on public opinion polls. We will not take a stand based on focus groups. We will not take a stand based on phone-in shows or householder surveys or any other vagaries of pubic opinion... In my judgment Canada will eventually join with the allied coalition if war on Iraq comes to pass. The government will join, notwithstanding its failure to prepare, its neglect in co-operating with its allies, or its inability to contribute. In the end it will join out of the necessity created by a pattern of uncertainty and indecision. It will not join as a leader but unnoticed at the back of the parade." (Hansard, January 29, 2003) "While there are Canadians who oppose the invasion, Harper said, they are a minority, as are those who are anti-American. It certainly exists. But in fairness, there's an anti-American sentiment among the American left in the United States itself. We have some of that here. But that's a minority sentiment.'" Only in Quebec, with its "pacifist tradition," are most people opposed to the war, Harper said. "Outside of Quebec, I believe very strongly the silent majority of Canadians is strongly supportive." (Halifax Daily News, April 4, 2003) On Taxes "I will strive to make this not the highest-spending country in the world, but instead the lowest taxing one." (Speech at the Conservative Leadership Convention, March 19, 2004) "[W]e must aim to make [Canada] a lower tax jurisdiction than the United States." (Vancouver Province, April 6, 2004) "They (taxes) can be lower than the U.S. and that should be our financial objective." (Canadian Press, April 11, 2003) On being called a Tory: "It's actually not a label I love. ... I am more comfortable with a more populist tradition of conservatism. Toryism has the historical context of hierarchy and elitism and is a different kind of political philosophy. It's not my favourite term, but we're probably stuck with it." (Hamilton Spectator, January 24, 2004) Stephen Harper : Directement de la source... [Citations traduites de l'anglais] Les commissions des droits de la personne humaine « Les commissions des droits de la personne humaine, de la manière dont elles évoluent, attentent à nos libertés fondamentales et à l'existence même d'une société démocratique [...] C'est en fait du totalitarisme. Je trouve cela très effrayant. » (BC Report, 11 janvier 1999) Les soins de santé : « Alors pourquoi le gouvernement fédéral va-t-il dépenser des millions de dollars des contribuables aux fins d'une enquête sur le système des soins de santé ? La réponse est probablement qu'il insiste pour trouver une " solution nationale ", soit précisément le contraire de ce que le système a besoin [...] Compte tenu d'un tel défi, il est clair qu'il faudrait tenter diverses expériences, par exemple, intégrer dans le régime public des mesures de libéralisation et la possibilité d'opter pour des soins privés. Et en toute logique, puisqu'en vertu de notre fédération, les provinces administrent les régimes de soins de santé et réglementent les services privés, c'est au niveau provincial que ces expériences devraient être tentées. » (Discours prononcé à Charlottetown, 27 juin 2001) « Les monopoles sont tout aussi inacceptables dans le secteur public qu'ils le sont dans le secteur privé. Que les soins de santé soient offerts par des institutions privées ou publiques, à but lucratif ou non n'a aucune importance dans la mesure où les Canadiens y ont accès quels que soient leurs moyens financiers. » (Allocution en réponse au discours du Trône, 1er octobre 2002) « M. Harper est également convaincu que notre système de soins de santé va continuer de se détériorer si Ottawa ne révise pas à fond la loi canadienne sur la santé pour permettre aux provinces d'introduire des mesures de libéralisation et la possibilité d'opter pour des soins privés. Il est prêt à défendre des positions hardies, comme l'introduction de services privés dans le système public. » (Énoncé de politique publié dans le cadre de la campagne pour la direction du parti à l'adresse : harperforleader.com, février 2002) GLORIA MACARENKO : Stephen Harper, que pensez­vous de l'instauration au Canada d'un système de soins de santé privé parallèle ? STEPHEN HARPER / VICE­PRÉSIDENT DE LA NATIONAL CITIZENS' COALITION : « Eh bien, je pense que ce serait une bonne idée. Je crois d'ailleurs que le Canada se dirige dans cette voie. Nous sommes les seuls, parmi les pays de l'OCDE à envisager un système à deux vitesses, sauf que la seconde vitesse fonctionnera à l'extérieur du pays, là où seuls les riches et les puissants peuvent en bénéficier, ce qui ne présente aucun avantage pour le régime de soins de santé du Canada. Je pense donc que ce n'est pas la bonne façon de procéder. Et, c'est clair, en ce qui nous concerne, nous envisageons une autre voie. » (Émission de télévision de la SRC, 17 août 1997, 23 h 00, HE) La pauvreté chez les enfants : En 1997, Harper s'est vanté d'avoir été contre les programmes proposés par le gouvernement pour éliminer la pauvreté chez les enfants : « On réclamait, entre autres propositions, des milliards de nouveaux crédits pour l'aide sociale, en invoquant « la pauvreté chez les enfants », et d'autres subventions pour les entreprises, au nom de « l'identité culturelle ». Dans les deux cas, on s'adressait à moi parce que j'étais l'une des rares personnes en vue qui s'opposaient à de tels projets. » (The Bulldog, National Citizens Coalition, février 1997) L'universalité des programmes sociaux : « L'universalité a été strictement restreinte : ce concept a pratiquement disparu de la plupart des domaines de la politique gouvernementale [...] C'est une victoire qui est due en partie aux efforts du Parti réformiste [...] » (Discours prononcé lors du Colin Brown Memorial Dinner, National Citizens Coalition, 1994) Le bilinguisme : « Après tout, le bilinguisme national et obligatoire n'est pas, dans ce pays, une simple politique. C'est devenu une religion, un dogme que nous sommes tous censés accepter sans discuter [...] Ne vous y trompez pas. Le Canada n'est pas un pays bilingue. En fait, il l'est moins qu'il ne l'a jamais été [...] Le bilinguisme érigé en religion, c'est comme un dieu qui n'a pas pu faire de miracles. Cela n'a favorisé ni la justice ni l'unité, et cela coûte aux contribuables canadiens, à qui l'on se garde bien de le dire, des millions. » (Calgary Sun, 6 mai 2001) Le fédéralisme : « Nous devons impérativement prendre l'initiative et couper l'Alberta du reste du pays pour limiter la mesure dans laquelle un gouvernement fédéral agressif et hostile peut empiéter sur les compétences provinciales légitimes. » (National Post, 24 janvier 2001, « Lettre ouverte à Ralph Klein ») « Si c'est Ottawa qui donne, Ottawa peut reprendre [...] Raison de plus pour que les gens de l'Ouest, et plus particulièrement les Albertains, réfléchissent bien à leur avenir dans ce pays. Après mûre réflexion, ils devraient se rendre compte qu'il est temps que les relations entre l'Alberta et le Canada changent [...] Le Canada semble se contenter d'être devenu un pays du genre socialiste de deuxième classe, qui chante la performance de son économie et les mérites de ses services sociaux d'autant plus fort qu'il peut ainsi masquer la position où il a été relégué et le fait qu'il est dirigé par un homme fort qui aspire à jouer dans la cour des grands, tout à fait taillé pour l'emploi [...] Nous nous sommes heurtés à un mur, certes, mais la prochaine étape logique serait de ne pas s'y cogner la tête. Il est bien plus logique de prendre les briques et de commencer à bâtir une nouvelle demeure, un Alberta plus fort et plus autonome. Il est temps de prendre modèle sur le Québec. Ce que les Albertains devraient apprendre des Québécois se résume à ceci : devenir « maîtres chez nous ». (National Post, 8 décembre 2000) « Les libéraux tentent toujours de s'ingérer dans les domaines de compétence exclusive comme la santé, l'éducation et les municipalités [...] Le gouvernement fédéral devrait se concentrer sur ses principaux domaines de responsabilité tout en respectant les responsabilités propres des provinces. Stephen Harper va reconnaître, par l'intermédiaire d'accords fédéraux-provinciaux, que les domaines comme le développement de l'employabilité, la foresterie, les mines, le logement, les loisirs, ainsi que les affaires municipales et urbaines redeviennent des domaines exclusifs des provinces avec pleine compensation. » (Un fédéralisme pour tous les Canadiens, document sur les politiques de Stephen Harper, oneconservativevoice.ca, mars 2004) « Que le Canada finisse par être représenté par un gouvernement national, deux gouvernements nationaux, plusieurs gouvernements nationaux ou même par tout autre type de structure, c'est franchement assez secondaire, d'après moi...Que le Canada se retrouve avec un gouvernement national, ou deux gouvernements, ou dix gouvernements, et quelle que soit la façon de gouverner du Canada, ses habitants demanderont une réduction de l'État, peu importe la constitution ou le régime qu'on aura. » (Discours prononcé lors du Colin Brown Memorial Dinner, National Citizens Coalition, 1994) « Mais je suis très libertarien dans le sens où, en règle générale, je crois qu'il faut « moins d'État » et qu'il ne faut pas imposer de valeurs aux gens. Si je suis à la tête d'un gouvernement, je ne chercherai pas à faire avancer la légalisation de l'avortement. Je crois fermement au mariage, selon sa définition traditionnelle, mais je suis aussi en faveur de la liberté de vote. Ce n'est pas quelque chose que j'imposerais. » (Stephen Harper, National Post, 6 mars 2004) « La définition du mot (libertarien) est discutable. Il a plusieurs sens. J'ai tendance à me rapprocher d'un conservatisme favorable à « moins d'État » [classique], dans la tradition libérale. Je ne me définit pas du tout pour autant comme un « libertarien ». Mais, de mon point de vue, le type de conservatisme que je défends s'inscrit tout à fait dans la ligne du programme réformiste axé sur un important changement démocratique. » (Harper, The Report, 7 janvier 2002) Au cours d'une entrevue qui a eu lieu dans son bureau de Calgary, M. Harper a déclaré que le conservatisme économique est libertarien par nature, l'accent étant mis sur les marchés et le choix. Les conservateurs libertariens cherchent à démanteler ce qui reste de l'État­providence pour passer à une « économie de marché du XXIe siècle. » Mais le conservatisme social est plus autocratique. M. Harper appelle cela du « Buchananisme », du nom de Pat Buchanan, le républicain américain de droite, partisan du populisme, qui a, sans succès, brigué l'investiture de ce parti aux élections présidentielles. « C'est l'orientation la plus dangereuse (du conservatisme) », a déclaré M. Harper. « Un Buchananiste devient un critique non socialiste du système, de certains aspects de l'économie de marché. » (Toronto Star, 6 avril 1997) La région atlantique « Il y a une dépendance dans cette région qui entretient une culture défaitiste. » (CBC News, 30 mai 2002) « Je crois que, en raison de ce qui s'est passé au cours des décennies suivant la Confédération, il existe une culture défaitiste dans la région atlantique qu'il nous faut éliminer. [...] La culture défaitiste des provinces atlantiques sera difficile à éradiquer tant et aussi longtemps que cette région sera à la remorque du reste du pays. » (New Brunswick Telegraph Journal, 29 mai 2002) « Il y a malheureusement un trop grand nombre de personnes dans la région atlantique qui croient que ce n'est que par le biais des faveurs du gouvernement qu'il y aura un progrès économique ou qu'on arrivera à quelque chose [...] Cette attitude apathique est un problème pour notre pays, mais c'est évidemment plus grave dans les régions qui sont depuis longtemps défavorisées. » (Toronto Sun, 31 mai 2002) « J'ai fait connaître mon opinion et, honnêtement, c'est la même que celle que j'ai exprimée tout au long de la campagne pour la direction (de l'Alliance). Partout où je suis allé, y compris dans les Maritimes, à plusieurs reprises, j'ai prononcé des discours à propos de l'esprit de défaitisme dans le pays, de ce qui l'alimente et de la manière d'y remédier. » (National Post, 31 mai 2002) Les Canadiens « Je crois qu'il y a une hausse dangereuse du sentiment défaitiste dans ce pays. [...] Je l'ai dit souvent. Et je le pense. Et j'y crois fermement. » (Ottawa Citizen, 3 juin 2002) « Eh bien, permettez­moi de vous dire que nous partageons tout à fait ces préoccupations à propos de la sécurité. Évidemment, les problèmes que posent nos frontières trop ouvertes, notre système d'immigration, sont des questions que nous avons soulevées au Parlement... Ne vous y trompez pas, le Canada, vous savez, avec ses ressources limitées [...] nos soldats participent de façon adéq... admirable aux interventions en Afghanistan. » (Entrevue avec Sheppard Smith, Fox TV, 13 septembre 2002) « ... il existe une culture à l'échelle du continent. Il y a, au Canada, une culture qui, par certains côtés, est unique, mais je ne pense pas que la culture et les frontières se superposent exactement. » (Report Magazine, 7 janvier 2002) « Nous avons simplement perdu de plus en plus d'intérêt aux yeux d'un pays [les États­Unis] qui a un grand nombre de priorités... » (Entrevue, Newsworld, CBC, 11 juillet 2003) « Je crois qu'il y a une hausse dangereuse du sentiment défaitiste dans ce pays. [...] Je l'ai dit souvent. Et je le pense. Et j'y crois fermement. » (Ottawa Citizen, 3 juin 2002) « Je crois que dans certaines régions des Prairies, on entend de plus en plus d'opinions semblables disant qu'il n'y a pas d'espoir, qu'il n'y a pas d'issue, que tout ce que nous pouvons faire est de négocier avec le parti au pouvoir. Alors je crois que dans n'importe quelle région qui souffre de sous-développement ou d'une absence de croissance pendant une longue période, c'est cette opinion qui se développe [...] Je dirais franchement que ce genre d'attitude défaitiste est un problème dans ce pays, mais c'est encore plus évident dans les régions qui ont eu un statut de déshéritées pendant longtemps. (Toronto Star, 30 mai 2002) À propos de la société canadienne de l'Ouest « Il ne faut pas oublier qu'à l'ouest de Winnipeg, les circonscriptions libérales sont dominées par des gens qui sont soit des Asiatiques immigrés de fraîche date, soit des Canadiens originaires de l'Est : des gens qui vivent repliés sur eux-mêmes et qui ne sont pas intégrés à la société canadienne de l'Ouest. » (Stephen Harper, Report News Magazine, 22 janvier 2001) Le développement régional « Nous avons dans ce pays un gouvernement fédéral qui est de plus en plus décidé à déterminer quelles entreprises, quelles régions, quelles industries prospéreront, et lesquelles ne réussiront pas, en utilisant une panoplie de programmes d'octroi de subventions en faveur du développement économique et du développement régional. Je crois que dans la prochaine campagne électorale, nous devons proposer de rompre totalement avec cela. » (Global News, 24 février 2002) Betty Granger Betty Granger a été l'une des trois organisatrices de la campagne de M. Harper pour la direction du parti, au Manitoba. Elle a été candidate aux élections de 2000. Les remarques qu'elle avait alors faites sur le « péril jaune » avaient suscité la controverse : « Je ne fais pas de chasse aux sorcières, je ne fouille pas le passé des gens [...] Si quelqu'un a fait quelque chose de mal, des mesures seront prises. Mais si rien de mal n'a été fait, nous ne prendrons pas de mesures [...] Je ne prends pas de décisions volontaires sur le terrain [...] mais Betty Granger est présidente d'une association de circonscription, elle est membre en règle du parti. C'est une personne que les membres à qui j'ai parlé tiennent en haute estime et, très franchement, elle a été la victime d'une campagne diffamatoire injuste lors de la dernière campagne électorale. » (Calgary Herald, 15 janvier 2002) « Betty Granger est la présidente de l'association du parti dans la région de Winnipeg et elle compte parmi les nombreux présidents d'associations politiques qui soutiennent la présente campagne. Je crois donc que ce genre de chose n'est qu'une sorte de maccarthysme qui vole très bas. » (Émission « Question Period » sur CTV, 10 février 2002) La réduction des dépenses M. Harper s'est trompé lorsqu'il a prédit qu'une réduction de 19 ou 20 milliards de dollars par an des dépenses fédérales, comme le proposait le Parti réformiste, ne suffirait pas à résorber le déficit fédéral : « Les propositions que nous avons formulées durant la campagne, et que beaucoup de gens trouvaient draconiennes, ne conviennent probablement pas, aujourd'hui, pour résoudre ce problème. » (Montreal Gazette, 30 novembre 1993) « [...] je n'entends aucunement contester la nécessité de réduire les dépenses de la défense et les dépenses publiques en général. [...] Je ne suis pas d'accord avec les gens qui favorisent des compressions des dépenses publiques, mais pas dans leur cour. » (Débats à la Chambre des communes, 23 mai 1995) La guerre contre l'Irak « Je ne connais pas tous les faits sur l'Irak, mais je crois que nous devrions travailler plus étroitement avec les Américains. » (Report Newsmagazine, 25 mars 2002) « Nous aurions dû y être, aux côtés de nos alliés. Ce qui nous inquiète, c'est l'instabilité de notre gouvernement en tant qu'allié. Nous jouons encore avec des questions de sécurité nationale et mondiale. » (Service des dépêches de la Presse canadienne, 11 avril 2003) « Parlant des justifications de la guerre, celle-ci n'était pas reliée à la découverte de quelconques armes de destruction massive particulières. À mon avis, c'était beaucoup plus profond. Il s'agissait d'éliminer un régime hostile, qui avait clairement l'intention de construire des systèmes d'armes. C'était tout simplement une situation intolérable. Si quiconque désire revenir au bon vieux temps de Saddam Hussein, qu'il le dise. Je crois, sincèrement, que tout le monde savait que la situation d'après-guerre allait probablement être encore plus difficile que la guerre elle-même. Le Canada demeure en marge de ses alliés. Il est écarté des mécanismes de reconstruction jusqu'à un certain point. Il est incapable d'influencer les événements. Il n'y a pas de positif dans la position prise par le Canada. » (Maclean's, 25 août 2003) « Le monde a désormais un seul pôle et une seule superpuissance. Le Canada habite le même continent que cette superpuissance. Dans ce contexte, compte tenu de la ressemblance de nos valeurs et de nos intérêts en matière de politique, d'économie et de sécurité avec ceux des États-Unis, la seule utilité de la politique étrangère pour le Canada désormais est de maintenir la possibilité d'exercer une influence réelle à Washington afin que nous puissions faire avancer les objectifs uniques des politiques canadiennes. » (Énoncé de politiques de défense de l'Alliance canadienne, The New North Strong and Free [le nouveau Nord puissant et libre], 5 mai 2003, page 5) « Mon parti ne prendra pas position en fonction des sondages d'opinion, a-t-il déclaré au cours d'un débat parlementaire spécial sur l'Irak. Nous n'arrêterons pas notre position en nous inspirant de groupes de réflexion. Nous ne prendrons pas position en fonction des tribunes téléphoniques, des sondages maison ou des caprices de l'opinion publique [...] À mon avis, le Canada finira bien par joindre les rangs de la coalition alliée, si la guerre contre l'Irak est déclarée. Le gouvernement canadien va se rallier, en dépit de son manque de préparation, de sa coopération défaillante avec ses alliés et de son incapacité de contribuer. En fin de compte, il y sera contraint par l'incertitude et l'indécision. Il ne fera pas son entrée comme un leader, mais ni vu ni connu, en bout de file. Il ne devrait pas en être ainsi. Cela est incompatible avec l'histoire remarquable de notre pays et notre réputation en tant que nation. Nous devons tenir bon dans l'épreuve et savoir prendre des décisions difficiles. Les députés alliancistes continueront d'adopter publiquement des positions fermes et de préconiser que les préparatifs militaires nécessaires soient faits pour que la guerre puisse être évitée. Je ne peux que prier instamment notre gouvernement de suivre notre exemple. » (Débats de la Chambre des communes, 29 janvier 2003) Alors que certains Canadiens s'opposent à l'invasion, M. Harper affirme qu'ils ne sont qu'une minorité, comme les anti-américains. « Cela existe, assurément. Mais en toute honnêteté, il existe un sentiment anti-américain au sein de la gauche américaine même aux États-Unis. Nous avons ce sentiment aussi ici, mais il n'est partagé que par une minorité. » Avec sa « tradition pacifiste », le Québec abrite la majorité des gens qui s'opposent à la guerre. « À l'extérieur du Québec, je crois fermement que la majorité silencieuse des Canadiens y est très favorable. » (Halifax Daily News, 4 avril 2003) L'appellation de conservateur « Ce n'est vraiment pas une étiquette qui me plaît. [...] Je suis plus à l'aise dans une tradition plus populiste. Le conservatisme se situe dans le contexte historique de hiérarchie et d'élitisme et c'est une philosophie politique d'un genre différent. Ce n'est pas le terme que je préfère, mais nous devrons probablement le garder. » (Hamilton Spectator, 24 janvier 2004) Kindest regards, Mark Mark M. Persaud, LL.B.; LL.M. ________________________________________________________ Montreal Muslim News Network - http://www.montrealmuslimnews.net ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:55:40 -0400 Reply-To: bstefans@earthlink.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Brian Kim Stefans [arras.net]" Subject: Death of a Disco Dancer Comments: To: "Ubuweb@Yahoogroups.Com" , Rachel Szekely , Timothy Davis , Miles Champion , Tom Raworth , Noah Wardrip-Fruin , Katie Degentesh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are two versions of a new "Flash Polaroid" though I think this goes a bit beyond the concept. They star my partner's 3-legged cat, Stump, and some crazy dude I saw in the park. They have sound, the first is set to the Smiths' "Death of a Disco Dancer" -- my first rock video: http://www.arras.net/polaroids/guy_cat_pan_disco.html The second is a sort of minimalist sludge a la Steve Reich, but this one using a Jeff Buckley bootleg of him doing "The Boy With a Thorn in his Side," though you can hardly tell. http://www.arras.net/polaroids/guy_cat_pan_growing_sound.html Both are the same basic file, but in the second the loop is faster, 16fps I think, while in the first it's only 12 fps. Perhaps that hardly makes a difference, but I wanted the Disco one to be slower. The minimalist one sounds great really loud, lots of bass. Fast connections only! xo brian ____ A R R A S: new media poetry and poetics http://www.arras.net Hinka cumfae cashore canfeh, Ahl hityi oar hied 'caw taughtie! "Do you think just because I come from Carronshore I cannot fight? I shall hit you over the head with a cold potatoe." --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/04 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 23:23:00 -0400 Reply-To: Geoffrey Gatza Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Geoffrey Gatza Organization: BlazeVOX Subject: Now online BlazeVOX2k4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now online BlazeVOX2k4 www.blazevox.org=20 ".approach with caution" Ron Silliman [4.15.04]=20 BlazeVOX2k4 : an.online.journal.of.voice =20 featuring new media and poetry avant garde Brand new design & Now flavored with More Fiction than ever before!=20 Featuring :=20 Kent Johnson=20 poem on the Abu Ghraib prison matter=20 What is History When God is an American? Jeffrey DeShell and Ted Pelton: a conversation=20 =A0 Dale Smith My Vote Counts Kane X. Faucher=20 Selections from: Urdoxa=20 Raymond Federman The Square Planet=20 Catherine Daly 2 image poems Gautam Verma The Opacity Of Frosted Glass =20 Steve Timm Gautam Verma Derek White Dale Smith Chris Murray Camille Martin Richard W. Carr Brian Lowe Mark Wallace Stacy Elaine Dacheux Mark Young ric royer=20 RICHARD KOSTELANETZ Desmond Swords jonathan hayes Scott Malby Raymond L Bianchi Todd Swift Trevor Calvert Catherine Daly Ed Taylor Merrill Cole Allen Itz Kristi Wilson Jennifer Firestone Raymond Farr Amy King=20 www.blazevox.org=20 www.blazevox.org=20 www.blazevox.org=20 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 15:31:51 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Keith Waldrop Subject: new from Burning Deck Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Burning Deck Press . 71 Elmgrove Avenue . Providence, RI 02906 www.burningdeck.com Bernard_Waldrop@brown.edu We are pleased to announce volume 17 of SERIE D=92ECRITURE = =20 (current French writing in English=20= translation): PIERRE ALFERI OXO with 7 photographs by Suzanne Doppelt translated from the French by Cole Swensen Poems, 80 pages, offset, smyth-sewn, original paperback (ISSN 0269-0179) ISBN 1-886224-66-8 $10 Publication Date: June 15, 2003 A bouillon cube (literally), a conceptual cube (seven sections of seven=20= poems, with each poem composed of seven seven-syllable lines) and at=20 the same time a =93flip-book=94 of verbal snapshots of life in Paris in = the=20 late 20th century: its tourists, its homeless, its politicians, its TV=20= news, its poetry, its pigeons. Alferi's tightly coiled syntax unravels=20= each one like a puzzle that slowly accrues to a finely nuanced image. Pierre Alferi was born and lives in Paris. He began publishing=20 philosophical essays, Guillaume d=92Ockham. Le singulier and Chercher = une=20 phrase. He has since written four books of poetry, Les Allures=20 naturelles (1991), Le Chemin familier du poisson combatif (1992), our=20 present volume, Kub Or (1994), and Sentimentale journ=E9e (1997), as = well=20 as two novels, Fmn (1994) and Le cin=E9ma des familles (1999). Recently=20= he has been working in short film and video (Films parlants/cin=E9po=E8mes= ,=20 DVD, 2003). Two new books, a collection of essays titled Des Enfants et=20= des monstres and a collection of poems titled La Voie des airs will be=20= published by P.O.L in 2004. Sun & Moon has published Natural Gaits in Cole Swensen=92s translation. Cole Swensen=92s recent books include Noon (Sun & Moon Press, 1997; New=20= American Writing Award), Try (University of Iowa, 1999; Iowa Poetry=20 Prize + San Francisco State Poetry Center Book Award),Oh (Apogee Press,=20= 2000) and Such Rich Hour (University of Iowa, 2001). Available from: Small Press Distribution, 1341 Seventh St., Berkeley, CA 94710;=20 1-800/869-7553 orders@spdbooks.org Spectacular Diseases, 83b London Rd., Peterborough, Cambs.PE2 9BS ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 00:22:30 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: route 666 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII route 666 there's no accounting for me - i'm just along for the ride - it's fast and furious - it's the ride of a lifetime - don't forget me - i'm disappearing - i'm in the fog the rain the thunder - you can see my face when the lightning strikes - what i've witnessed - no human being should ever see - should ever have to see - we're picking up speed - the road stretches to infinity - lights overhead - the great sloop disappears in the distance - comes up behind me - passes - comes up behind me - never mind - :back on the road again - boat truck with boat - schooner - should be scooner - they're leaving the city for good - refugees - something's in the air - i've seen it all - i've been there and back - i've been around the bend - trust me, there's nothing - but really there's everything - experiences unlike anything anyone else has ever - had or seen - or heard for that matter - all the senses - what a buildup - but it's true every word of it - and then some - "your forest is blasphemy unto the Loard" - what could this person have been thinking - "youre riding the boat of truth and conversion" - should have been Truth maybe Conversion - just there to the left of me - hundred hundred twenty kilometers an hour - each of them named and accounted for -:i'm on the road - i'm invisible here - have to stop to enter the wires - emissions no good no wifi nothing - no money for satellites those things - just want you to know - what - i've seen wonders - incredible things - you wouldn't believe - can't write about them now - acts of altruism, murders - rapine and pillage - heroism to the nth degree - higher - empathy and compassion - charities uncalled-for - slow down to a crawl in the traffic - there's a six-wheeler ahead all black with tinted windows - something going on in there - ::seal is 66 85 68 91 901 611 309 they say 3 9 380 on black stone i'm on the road - i'm invisible here - have to stop to enter the wires - emissions no good no wifi nothing - no money for satellites those things - just want you to know - what - i've seen wonders - incredible things - you wouldn't believe - can't write about them now - acts of altruism, murders - rapine and pillage - heroism to the nth degree - higher - empathy and compassion - charities uncalled-for - slow down to a crawl in the traffic - there's a six-wheeler ahead all black with tinted windows - something going on in there - your there's no accounting for me - i'm just along for the ride - it's fast and furious - it's the ride of a lifetime - don't forget me - i'm disappearing - i'm in the fog the rain the thunder - you can see my face when the lightning strikes - what i've witnessed - no human being should ever see - should ever have to see - we're picking up speed - the road stretches to infinity - lights overhead - the great sloop disappears in the distance - comes up behind me - passes - comes up behind me - never mind - they say 3 9 380 on black stone _ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 01:51:00 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit there's no one reading this good! there's no one writing this.... 3:00...day of the unborn..drn... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 01:56:09 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... 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charset=US-ASCII route 666 there's no accounting for me - i'm dying just along for the ride towards death - it's fast and furious - it's the ride towards death of a lifetime - don't forget me - i'm dying disappearing - i'm dying in the rattling fog the drowning rain the screaming thunder - you can see my face when the lightning strikes - what i've witnessed - no human being should ever see - should ever have to see - we're picking up speed - the road towards death stretches to infinity - lights overhead - the great sloop disappears in the distance - comes up behind me - passes - comes up behind me - never mind - :back on the road towards death again - boat truck with boat - schooner - should be scooner - they're leaving the city for good - refugees - something's in the air - i've seen it all - i've been there and back - i've been around the bend - trust me, there's nothing - but really there's everything - experiences unlike anything anyone else has ever - had or seen - or heard for that matter - all the senses - what a buildup - but it's true every word of it - and then some - "your forest is blasphemy unto the Loard" - what could this person have been thinking - "youre riding the boat of truth and conversion" - should have been Truth maybe Conversion - just there to the left of me - hundred hundred twenty kilometers an hour - each of them dying named and accounted for -:i'm dying on the road towards death - i'm dying invisible here - have to stop to enter the wires - emissions no good no wifi nothing - no money for satellites those things - just want you to know - what - i've seen wonders - incredible things - you wouldn't believe - can't write about them dying now - acts of altruism, murders - rapine and pillage - heroism dying to the nth degree - higher - empathy and compassion - charities uncalled-for - slow down to a crawl in the traffic - there's a six-wheeler ahead all black with tinted windows - something going on in there - ::seal is 66 85 68 91 901 611 309 they say 3 9 380 on black stone i'm dying on the road towards death - i'm dying invisible here - have to stop to enter the wires - emissions no good no wifi nothing - no money for satellites those things - just want you to know - what - i've seen wonders - incredible things - you wouldn't believe - can't write about them dying now - acts of altruism, murders - rapine and pillage - heroism dying to the nth degree - higher - empathy and compassion - charities uncalled-for - slow down to a crawl in the traffic - there's a six-wheeler ahead all black with tinted windows - something going on in there - your there's no accounting for me - i'm dying just along for the ride towards death - it's fast and furious - it's the ride towards death of a lifetime - don't forget me - i'm disappearing - i'm dying in the rattling fog the drowning rain the screaming thunder - you can see my face when the lightning strikes - what i've witnessed - no human being should ever see - should ever have to see - we're picking up speed - the road towards death stretches to infinity - lights overhead - the great sloop disappears in the distance - comes up behind me - passes - comes up behind me - never mind - they say 3 9 380 on black stone they say 3 9 380 on black stone _ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 10:24:15 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: SF gallery owner becomes target after showcasing painting of Iraqi prisoner abuse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MMN Note: visit link to see the bruised and battered face of the gallery owner Lori Haigh... ===================================== SF gallery owner becomes target after showcasing painting of Iraqi prisoner abuse - LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer Saturday, May 29, 2004 SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/05/29/state1749EDT0067.DTL&type=printable After displaying a painting of U.S. soldiers torturing Iraqi prisoners, a San Francisco gallery owner bears a painful reminder of the nations unresolved anguish over the incidents at Abu Ghraib -- a black eye and bloodied brow delivered by an unknown assailant who apparently objected to the art work. The assault outside the Capobianco gallery in the citys North Beach district Thursday night was the worst, but only the latest in a string of verbal and physical attacks that have directed at owner Lori Haigh since the painting, titled "Abuse," was installed there on May 16. Last Wednesday, concerned for the safety of her two children, ages 14 and 4, who often accompanied her to work, Haigh decided to close the gallery indefinitely. Painted by Berkeley artist Guy Colwell, "Abuse," the painting at the center of the controversy, depicts three U.S. soldiers leering at a group of naked men in hoods with wires connected to their bodies. The one in the foreground has a blood-spattered American flag patch on his uniform. In the background, a soldier in sunglasses guards a blindfolded woman. The painting was part of a larger show of Colwell's work that mostly featured pastel-colored abstracts. Two days after the painting went up in a front window, someone threw eggs and dumped trash on the doorstep. Haigh said she didnt think to connect it to the black-and-white interpretation of the events at Baghdads notorious prison until people started leaving nasty messages and threats on her business answering machine. "I think you need to get your gallery out of this neighborhood before you get hurt." one caller said. Even after she removed the painting from the window, the criticism continued thanks to news coverage about the gallerys troubles. The answering machine recorded new calls from people accusing her of being a coward for taking the picture down. Last weekend, a man walked into the gallery, pretended to scrutinize the art work for a moment, then marched up to Haighs desk and spat directly in her face. "This isnt art-politics central here at all," Haigh said. "Im not here to make a stand. I never set out to be a crusader or a political activist." In closing the gallery, Haigh was forced to cancel an upcoming show featuring counterculture artist Winston Smith. She covered the windows of the gallery with old newspapers from Sept. 11, 2003 that included stories about the war, a statement she insists was coincidental. For Haigh, who opened Capobianco a year-and-a-half ago, having the chance to work with prominent artists fulfilled a lifelong dream. "I kept thinking someday I'll have enough of a reputation where I could bring in my heroes of the art world, people like Guy Colwell especially," she said. The irony of the attacks hasn't been lost on Haigh. Among the expressions of support she's received since shuttering the gallery, her favorite is an e-mail whose writer said, "Im sure that a few and dangerous minds dont understand that they have only mimicked the same perversity this painting had expressed." The abuse also has soured her on North Beach, the Italian-American neighborhood that spawned the Beat Generation. Long considered a bastion of free speech, it is also home to many old-time San Franciscans. Haigh believes "it is the locals" who first took aim at her gallery since it's on a mostly residential street and she hadn't advertised Cowells show when the threats started. But others in the neighborhood have gone out of their way to offer encouragement and sympathy, among them poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti, owner of the famed City Lights bookstore. Outside the gallery on Friday, someone had left a bouquet of flowers along with a note reading, "The woman who ran this gallery is a brave and honorable woman....She is a true American and a real patriot." San Francisco police are investigating the incidents and have stepped up patrols around the gallery while Haigh finishes closing up shop. Colwell stopped by on Friday and refused to discuss his work or the reaction to it, saying only, "Im sorry if this is putting pressure on Lori." ________________________________________________________ Montreal Muslim News Network - http://www.montrealmuslimnews.net ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 17:28:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Derek White Subject: SleepingFish wants your warped dreams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit **************************************************************************** ********************** SleepingFish, a print magazine of textual art, is now seeking works for issue 0.5. The fuzzy theme is "dreams: the sleeping reality where anything goes". How you interpret this is up to you, but pieces that are inspired by or conceived during those nocturnal hours when consciousness is suspended (without explicitly stating so) stand a better chance. Flash "fictions", prose "poems", visual "poems", art, found objects and other form- and genre-bending works are sought. Conventional lined poetry and short stories are not. Pieces should be able to fit on one or two pages. For full submission guidlines, see < http://www.sleepingfish.net/submit.htm > **************************************************************************** ********************** SleepingFish.net is now also featuring "sensory" or 5¢ense online reviews, and is accepting review submissions. To see what qualifies as a "5¢ense" review, see < www.5cense.com >. **************************************************************************** ********************** Best Fishes, Derek White < www.calamaripress.com > < www.sleepingfish.net > < www.5cense.com > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 18:50:52 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Damian Judge Rollison Subject: Re: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Apropos of this story, from the chapter on Kenneth Koch in David Lehman's _The Last Avant-Garde_: "Koch's escape into poetry was facilitated by his English teacher at Walnut Hills High School [in Cincinnati], Katherine Lappa, to whom _Wishes, Lies, and Dreams_ is dedicated. In his junior and senior years, Koch turned in poems that seemed to him both 'sexy and sadistic' and expected to be rapped on the knuckles; Lappa inspired him to a lifelong love of poetry when she told him it was okay to allow his antisocial impluses into his poetry. In his senior year Koch read John Dos Passos's _U.S.A._ and was taken with the stream-of-consciousness sections. The sensuality and violence that the boy felt he had to repress in his daily life found their way into the stream-of-consciousness writing he set himself to do. In one piece he wrote of the urge to 'step on a baby's head because it is so big and round and soft like a balloon, and would go squash under my feet.' Katherine Lappa remained unflappable. 'That's very good,' she said. 'That's just what you should be feeling -- part of what you're feeling. Keep doing it.'" (p. 214) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 19:28:39 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nick Carbo Subject: Andalusian Dawn, new book by Nick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andalusian Dawn, poems by Nick Carbó Andalusian Dawn, Nick Carbó’s third full-length poetry collection, is a lush, sensual collection of lyrics on interior and exterior landscapes. Many of the poems are drawn from the geographic and cultural backdrop of Spain, where the poet spent time on a writing residency; others are drawn from the more elusive well of history, biography, and literature itself. Andualusian Dawn is at once Nick Carbó’s most ambitious collection and his most intimate, and establishes him as a major figure of his generation. Praise for Andalusian Dawn “In Andalusian Dawn, Nick Carbó creates a new, sweet language. This collection hums with tenderness, revelry, and pays special tribute to the importance of memory. Carbó shows his extraordinary range with this, his newest collection, that will make you want to visit Andalusia and reimagine the geography of your heart’s home.”—Crystal Williams “The spirits of Lorca, the gypsies who inspired him, and the great poets of al-Andalus, preside over Nick Carbó’s Andalusian Dawn. These poems are filled with a voluble silence in which we hear the ‘cricket-sound dark’ and see ‘millions of fireflies/ burning in rows and rows between us.’ Carbó’s poems, like those of his predecessors, are conflagrations made of music and image.”—Michael Collier About the Author Nick Carbó is the author of El Grupo McDonald’s (1995) and Secret Asian Man (2000), which won the Asian American Literary Award. He has edited two anthologies of Philippine literature: Returning a Borrowed Tongue (1996) and Babaylan (2000). He also edited an anthology, Sweet Jesus (2002), with Denise Duhamel. Among his awards are grants in poetry from the NEA and NYFA (1999), and residencies from Fundacion Valparaiso (Spain), Le Chateau de Lavigny (Switzerland), the MacDowell Colony, and Yaddo. About Cherry Grove Collections Cherry Grove Collections is a poetry publisher dedicated to the art of lyric in poetry. We seek to publish collections that sing the essential human songs of our times. We publish collections of poetry through two annual contests—Lyre: A Poetry Series and the Cherry Grove Collections Poetry Prize. For more information, visit www.cherry-grove.com. Ordering Information Andalusian Dawn is available from Ingram www.Amazon.com and www.bn.com ISBN: 1-932339-44-2 softcover, 88 pages, $16.00 -- Nick Carbo http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1667164 http://www.cherry-grove.com/carbo.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 16:48:44 -0700 Reply-To: Denise Enck Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Denise Enck Subject: A TOAST by Paul Nelson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Nelson's poem, A TOAST, is now published online at http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/poems/nelson-atoast.html Poet / broadcaster Paul Nelson interviewed on the topic of poetry & radio: http://www.emptymirrorbooks.com/essays/nelson-poetry-radio.html cheers ~ Denise www.emptymirrorbooks.com modern poetry, photographs & ephemera ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 22:29:05 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How much, if any, of the anti-social in our poetry should we allow others to see? Should it all be edited out? There was a bit of a flap over Sondheim's Jennifer poems a few years back, wasn't there? Adolescent musing on baby-head-popping is one thing, writing through our own misogynist, racist, xenophobic tendencies quite another. >> Apropos of this story, from the chapter on Kenneth Koch in David Lehman's _The Last Avant-Garde_: "Koch's escape into poetry was facilitated by his English teacher at Walnut Hills High School [in Cincinnati], Katherine Lappa, to whom _Wishes, Lies, and Dreams_ is dedicated. In his junior and senior years, Koch turned in poems that seemed to him both 'sexy and sadistic' and expected to be rapped on the knuckles; Lappa inspired him to a lifelong love of poetry when she told him it was okay to allow his antisocial impluses into his poetry. In his senior year Koch read John Dos Passos's _U.S.A._ and was taken with the stream-of-consciousness sections. The sensuality and violence that the boy felt he had to repress in his daily life found their way into the stream-of-consciousness writing he set himself to do. In one piece he wrote of the urge to 'step on a baby's head because it is so big and round and soft like a balloon, and would go squash under my feet.' Katherine Lappa remained unflappable. 'That's very good,' she said. 'That's just what you should be feeling -- part of what you're feeling. Keep doing it.'" (p. 214) >> ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 20:14:07 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Kanesatake is Quebec's own Iraq sur Le Lac Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/26441.php Kanesatake is Quebec's own Iraq sur Le Lac by The Gazette . Sunday May 30, 2004 at 07:22 PM The situation in Kanesatake is no laughing matter. Kanesatake is Quebec's own Iraq sur Le Lac Don Macpherson The Gazette Saturday, May 29, 2004 The situation in Kanesatake is no laughing matter. Still, it took steely discipline for the members of the Parti Quebecois official opposition in the National Assembly yesterday morning not to burst into incredulous laughter at the assurance by Public Security Minister Jacques Chagnon that everything is under control in that Mohawk community. As Chagnon spoke, three police cars and a truck belonging to the Mohawk Peacekeepers sat smouldering in the parking lot of the Kanesatake police station, where they had been set on fire during the night. But there is law and order in Kanesatake, the minister said. The proof is that it was a patrolling Surete du Quebec officer who noticed the vehicles were on fire. Think about all this for a minute: The police are unable to protect their own vehicles parked at their own station, let alone the public - especially now that they're on foot. The grand chief, an avowed foe of drug dealers, hasn't dared set foot there since his house was burned to the ground four months ago, an act for which no arrests have been made. Local residents say parents are afraid to send their children to school, and property owners have trouble getting insurance. And Chagnon himself has been on the defensive all week for portraying Kanesatake as a place where you need to hit the ground at the caw of a crow because the trigger-happy locals respond to such annoyances by reaching for their ever-handy 12-gauge shotguns. In the most surreal development of the week, Gabriel responded to Chagnon by hotly defending the reputation of his community - from exile in Laval, since it is not safe for him to enter Kanesatake. This is the minister's idea of law and order? Violence, lawlessness, factionalism, powerless local officials with little visible local support - why, we have something like our own little Iraq on the shores of the Lake of Two Mountains, a half-hour drive from Montreal. And in Quebec City, we have our own Bushies, assuring us that everything is going according to plan. In their case, the plan, as outlined yesterday by Benoit Pelletier, consists mainly of investing the government's hopes in Gabriel, whom it has tried to rehabilitate after Chagnon undermined his authority by criticizing his handling of the policing problem. The government hopes for elections in July in which Gabriel will be re-elected and the faction loyal to him will take control of the band council. This is a rather flimsy basket in which to place the government's eggs. If an election could solve Kanesatake's problem, there would be no problem in the first place, since Gabriel is already, as the media emphasize, the duly elected grand chief. For democracy to work, everybody has to accept to be bound by the rules, and by the results of an election (or a referendum). That is, everybody has to be a good loser. But in Kanesatake, people don't even agree on who should be allowed to vote - only residents, or nonresident band members as well. Some Mohawks refuse to recognize the legitimacy of decisions made under the white man's rules, which helps explain why usually only a minority of eligible voters bother to turn out. And others are sore losers who either challenge in the courts or simply ignore decisions that don't go their way. Besides, as PQ leader Bernard Landry pointed out yesterday, it would hardly be a fair election if Gabriel was unable to campaign among his constituents. Pelletier pointed out at least the government has avoided bloodshed. And he said if anybody has any better ideas, the government is willing to listen. But the only other idea anyone seems to have is to demand Chagnon's resignation. Premier Jean Charest has defended Chagnon, but only when forced to do so, and he may keep Chagnon in his present portfolio only until the cabinet shuffle everybody around the Assembly expects after the spring sitting. It's true Chagnon has got into more than his share of political trouble over Kanesatake. But nobody has explained how changing the minister would solve the problem in our little Iraq by the lake. dmacpher@thegazette.canwest.com Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 23:03:12 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the union dead concord bridge najaf antietam kufa bellau woods basra anzio sadr city the union dead 12:02...i? remember?...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 23:00:29 -0500 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Spring.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no one ! no one 12:01...who was that masked man?...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 23:32:57 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Eric Elshtain Subject: New Rae Armantrout MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Beard of Bees, a free web-based press in Chicago, is pleased to announce the publication of a new chapbook: 7 Poems by Rae Armantrout. Also, find recent chapbooks by Catherine Daly, Antonio Facchino, Jacques Roubaud (translated by Eleni Sikelianos) and Amy England. Beard of Bees continues to be the home of Gnoetry 2.0, a computer-generated poetry program; read results of the latest Gnoetic field test and the Gnoetic Manifesto. www.beardofbees.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 21:44:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: [news] Police Brutality Activist Dies in Police Custody Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Original article is at http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/26445.php Police Brutality Activist Dies in Police Custody Outraged community residents threw down the gauntlet against business as usual in Thursday's police board meeting, leaving their seats to surround board members and command level police brass and demand meaningful steps in the investigation of the death in police custody of May Molina. Police Brutality Activist Dies in Police Custody Outraged community residents threw down the gauntlet against business as usual in Thursday's police board meeting, leaving their seats to surround board members and command level police brass and demand meaningful steps in the investigation of the death in police custody of May Molina. Police say they found Molina dead or near death in a police cell at Belmont and Western Wednesday morning. Her supporters have accused police of being responsible for her death. Outraged community residents threw down the gauntlet against business as usual in Thursday's police board meeting, leaving their seats to surround board members and command level police brass and demand meaningful steps in the investigation of the death in police custody of May Molina. Police say they found Molina dead or near death in a police cell at Belmont and Western Wednesday morning. Her supporters have accused police of being responsible for her death. The protesters' action at Thursday's police board meeting prompted police officials to offer the protesters an unprecedented Friday morning meeting with the head of the Chicago Police Department's Office of Professional Standards. The meeting is scheduled for 9AM on Friday, May 28 with Lori Lightfoot, chief administrator of the Office of Professional Standards, at her 12th floor office, at 10 W. 35th St., at 35th and State Street. Molina's supporters are urging members of the public to attend the meeting. More than 150 of Molina's friends, supporters and family members attended the Thursday police board meeting, including her two small grandchildren and two of her nieces. Her nieces, both of whom are studying to be lawyers, said the death of their aunt in police custody early Wednesday morning had seriously shaken their faith in the criminal justice system. "If you knew my aunt, you know these things [the police are] saying don't make sense," said her niece Maritza Perez. Many speakers at the police board meeting demanded an independent investigation and autopsy in the case, charging that it was impossible to trust the police to conduct an honest investigation. Molina was arrested Monday night at her home near Addison and Halsted on allegations of heroin possession, a charge those who know her find highly suspicious. She was taken to the notorious Town Hall police district, and later transferred to area headquarters at Belmont and Western. Family members went repeatedly to both stations to plead with police to allow her to take her medicine. The wheelchair bound 55-year-old activist had a range of health problems, including diabetes. Her attorney, Jerry Bischoff, visited her Tuesday afternoon in jail and said he told police she was very ill, needed her medication and needed to be taken to the hospital. Police deny that Molina, her relatives or her attorney asked that she be allowed to take her medication or be taken to a hospital. Wednesday night, the County coroner's office leaked a report to police that Molina had been found to have six packs of heroin in her esophagus. Family and supporters scoffed at that allegation, wondering if it was plausible to believe that Molina had not swallowed over the course of more than 28 hours in police custody, leaving the heroin lodged in her throat. "We want answers," Rev. Walter Coleman told police board members Thursday night. "This woman was deeply loved and respected in the community. It is unprofessional - it is wrong -- for the police or the coroner to leak unsubstantiated information and engage in a smear campaign against this woman when we already know there has been serious police wrongdoing in this case. The police have no credibility in the community." "My mother died twenty years ago, and May Molina was the only mother I've ever known," said Maribel Shattini. "We demand an independent investigation into her death, because frankly, we don't trust the police." Molina was widely respected for her work on behalf of the wrongfully convicted, including her son Salvatore Ortiz, who she and supporters charge was wrongfully convicted of a homicide by west side cops and the Cook County State's Attorney's Office. Ortiz has served ten years of a 47 year sentence, and the family was hopeful that recent legal progress in the case might push forward efforts to win his freedom. She had opened an office on the west side recently along with other police accountability activists as part of a broad campaign to step up the campaign to draw public attention to police misconduct and wrongful convictions. After people in the meeting engulfed board members and top brass, chanting "the people, united, will never be defeated," police officials hastily offered to set up a meeting with the Office of Professional Standards Friday morning. The crowd surrounded board members and police brass as former death row inmate Aaron Patterson rose to speak, saying part of the problem was the lack of closeness between board members and the public. "These meetings are too informal," said Patterson, who then asked Molina's supporters to join him in moving closer to the board members and top police brass, who were seated at a long table at the head of the room. Molina's advocates and relatives rose to their feet and joined Patterson in surrounding the board members, police superintendent Phil Cline and police department corporation counsel Sheri Mecklenburg. Police staff stood between the protesters and police officials, and several minutes later police spokesperson Pat Camden stepped forward with the offer to schedule a meeting between Molina's advocates and the OPS chief Friday morning. Molina's funeral is scheduled for Tuesday at 2PM. -written by Chris Geovanis, Chicago IMC URL: http://resist.ca/story/2004/5/29/94034/4599 _______________________________________________ news mailing list news@lists.resist.ca https://lists.resist.ca/mailman/listinfo/news } ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 00:49:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: bone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII bone http://www.asondheim.org/bone.jpg _ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 22:44:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Memorial Day Weekend & Iraq/ Thoughts In-Reply-To: <002801c44588$db589160$54fdfc83@oemcomputer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Joel: If you plug in "Iraqi women rape" into any search engine, I think it's possible to get further beyond your sense of hearsay as to what constitutes rape & circumstance for women in Iraq. * I did - as I suspect many - listened/saw some of the events around the opening of the new WWII Memorial. I found many of testimonials to be very moving. Four of my uncles were in the South Pacific during WWII - one of whom died of conflict related disease - and another one fought in Europe & North Africa. In the forties, when I was very young, none of the uncles never spoke in any detail about their experiences - I don't if that was a taboo - in that young kids should not be exposed to the down & dirty details of battle. I sensed it was something larger, a forbidden area - self-imposed or otherwise. So I found it quite moving to hear people - men who resembled my uncles - finally talk about the details of what they did and suffered, stories of captivity, escape and all. A silence broken, a much wanted healing. I sensed many others in the audiences on camera opened themselves similarly. As to whether this experience will cross boundaries - former enemy to enemy - I know it happens on a personal & group level. Vietnam Vets going back to Vietnam, for example. As to taking place on a cross-national Government level, I am not holding my breath - MacMcmara (SP?) as a US Principal in the War, for example, returning in a formal US capacity to lay flowers on the graves of Viet Cong soldiers - as much as such may promise in the way of a larger healing. Stephen V > Stephen: > > I hear that to an Iraqi, a woman in prison is assumed to have been raped. > Even if her headscarf is removed, it is a form of disgrace tantamount to > rape. This is not to say that rapes didn't occur, just that rumors may > pollute the facts, which are condemning enough. > > As for war memorials honoring both sides, I fully agree. The problem with > war memorials is that they are not enough against war, except, maybe, the > Vietnam War Memorial, which seems, because it is just a overwhelming amount > of names, no heroic man on a horse, no flag being planted, to have an > anti-war, meaningless-of-it-all, effect on people. Yet most Americans > learned nothing from that war. Nothing! And this seems to include John > Kerry, who's caught up in the spirit of comradeship instead of in the > insanity of war. > > -Joel > > > >> Events in the prisons by our soldiers in Iraq (see article below on > torture >> of Iraqi women prisoners) have certainly given a unique twist - at least > in >> my memory - as to the significance of Memorial Day. >> >> In fact, courtesy of the poly-cylindrical character of the Internet, we > can >> receive information from so many different global, geographic nodes, each >> carrying materials and views that either conflict, corroborate or put up a >> whole new angle on 'our' view on whatever the provocative circumstances. >> >> In light of example such as the new revelations of Iraqi women imprisoned, >> raped and subjected to other torture by our soldiers, I am wondering if > the >> globe will evolve to a point where war Memorials will incorporate the >> memories of all sides of a conflict. Much, for example, today is made of > the >> fact that the new WWII Memorial in Washington includes the acknowledgement >> of the contribution of the 50 States and six territories. In my perhaps >> innocent optimism, I wonder if the eventual memorial for this Iraq War > will >> include the acknowledgement of the torture of these men and women Iraqi >> prisoners whose abused conditions once globally exposed became the turning > >> point in the which the American people turned on the President and > demanded >> an exit of its troops from an obvious disaster. >> >> My larger question is whether an eventual Iraq War Memorial will evolve to > a >> point where such site will acknowledge all victims - both our own misled >> soldiers and those of the Iraqi resistance. The knowledge of what has >> happened in Iraq is so globally shared, it would seem entirely narrow > minded >> or blind to not make the site be a healing one for those we have tortured >> and killed, and what all else we have contributed to destroy in heritage, >> cultural and otherwise of Iraq. >> >> If the America's refusal to acknowledge the gratuitous bombing at > Hiroshima >> and Nagasaki is any guide,for example, I am not about to be optimistic. >> However, I do think the Internet is changing global consciousness in such > a >> way - let alone the shift to an interdependent global economy - that these >> nationally self-serving Memorials will begin, indeed, to seem quaint. >> ("Quaint" in a much different sense than the President's lawyer use of the >> term to unilaterally disown the Geneva War Conventions on the use of > torture >> on prisoners as a crime). >> >> Fundamentally here is a wish to collectively apologize and offer > reparations >> for this killing, torture, and abuse. I wish there was one leader in this >> Government who could offer that. It's something I would certainly support >> -otherwise this nation is going to be festering and, I suspect, go badly > in >> the world for a long time. >> >> Ah, with those dark thoughts, do have a good, as much as possible, > weekend. >> >> Stephen V >> Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com >> >> >>>> The other prisoners >>>> >>>> >>>> Most of the coverage of abuse at Abu Ghraib has focused on male > detainees. >>>> But what of the five women held in the jail, and the scores elsewhere > in >>>> Iraq? Luke Harding reports >>>> Thursday May 20, 2004 >>>> >>>> >>>> The Guardian >>>> >>>> The scandal at Abu Ghraib prison was first exposed not by a digital >>>> photograph but by a letter. In December 2003, a woman prisoner inside > the >>>> jail west of Baghdad managed to smuggle out a note. Its contents were > so >>>> shocking that, at first, Amal Kadham Swadi and the other Iraqi women > lawyers >>>> who had been trying to gain access to the US jail found them hard to > believe. >>>> >>>> The note claimed that US guards had been raping women detainees, who > were, >>>> and are, in a small minority at Abu Ghraib. Several of the women were > now >>>> pregnant, it added. The women had been forced to strip naked in front > of men, >>>> it said. The note urged the Iraqi resistance to bomb the jail to spare > the >>>> women further shame. >>>> >>>> Late last year, Swadi, one of seven female lawyers now representing > women >>>> detainees in Abu Ghraib, began to piece together a picture of systemic > abuse >>>> and torture perpetrated by US guards against Iraqi women held in > detention >>>> without charge. This was not only true of Abu Ghraib, she discovered, > but >>>> was, as she put it, "happening all across Iraq". >>>> >>>> In November last year, Swadi visited a woman detainee at a US military > base >>>> at al-Kharkh, a former police compound in Baghdad. "She was the only > woman >>>> who would talk about her case. She was crying. She told us she had been >>>> raped," Swadi says. "Several American soldiers had raped her. She had > tried >>>> to fight them off and they had hurt her arm. She showed us the > stitches. She >>>> told us, 'We have daughters and husbands. For God's sake don't tell > anyone >>>> about this.'" >>>> >>>> Astonishingly, the secret inquiry launched by the US military in > January, >>>> headed by Major General Antonio Taguba, has confirmed that the letter >>>> smuggled out of Abu Ghraib by a woman known only as "Noor" was entirely > and >>>> devastatingly accurate. While most of the focus since the scandal broke > three >>>> weeks ago has been on the abuse of men, and on their sexual humilation > in >>>> front of US women soldiers, there is now incontrovertible proof that > women >>>> detainees - who form a small but unknown proportion of the 40,000 > people in >>>> US custody since last year's invasion - have also been abused. Nobody > appears >>>> to know how many. But among the 1,800 digital photographs taken by US > guards >>>> inside Abu Ghraib there are, according to Taguba's report, images of a > US >>>> military policeman "having sex" with an Iraqi woman. >>>> >>>> Taguba discovered that guards have also videotaped and photographed > naked >>>> female detainees. The Bush administration has refused to release other >>>> photographs of Iraqi women forced at gunpoint to bare their breasts > (although >>>> it has shown them to Congress) - ostensibly to prevent attacks on US > soldiers >>>> in Iraq, but in reality, one suspects, to prevent further domestic >>>> embarrassment. >>>> >>>> Earlier this month it emerged that an Iraqi woman in her 70s had been >>>> harnessed and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib and another coalition >>>> detention centre after being arrested last July. Labour MP Ann Clwyd, > who >>>> investigated the case and found it to be true, said, "She was held for > about >>>> six weeks without charge. During that time she was insulted and told > she was >>>> a donkey." >>>> In Iraq, the existence of photographs of women detainees being abused > has >>>> provoked revulsion and outrage, but little surprise. Some of the women >>>> involved may since have disappeared, according to human rights > activists. >>>> Professor Huda Shaker al-Nuaimi, a political scientist at Baghdad > University >>>> who is researching the subject for Amnesty International, says she > thinks >>>> "Noor" is now dead. "We believe she was raped and that she was pregnant > by a >>>> US guard. After her release from Abu Ghraib, I went to her house. The >>>> neighbours said her family had moved away. I believe she has been > killed." >>>> Honour killings are not unusual in Islamic society, where rape is often >>>> equated with shame and where the stigma of being raped by an American > soldier >>>> would, according to one Islamic cleric, be "unbearable". The prospects > for >>>> rape victims in Iraq are grave; it is hardly surprising that no women > have so >>>> far come forward to talk about their experiences in US-run jails where > abuse >>>> was rife until early January. >>>> >>>> One of the most depressing aspects of the saga is that, unaccountably, > the US >>>> military continues to hold five women in solitary confinement at Abu > Ghraib, >>>> in cells 2.5m (8ft) long by 1.5m (5ft) wide. Last week, the military > escorted >>>> a small group of journalists around the camp, where hundreds of > relatives >>>> gather every day in a dusty car park in the hope of news. >>>> >>>> The prison is protected by guard towers, an outer fence topped with > razor >>>> wire, and blast walls. Inside, more than 3,000 Iraqi men are kept in > vast >>>> open courtyards, in communal brown tents exposed to dust and sun. (Last >>>> month, nearly 30 detainees were killed in two separate mortar attacks > on the >>>> prison; about a dozen survivors are still in the hospital wing, > shackled to >>>> their beds with leather belts.) As our bus pulled up, the men ran > towards the >>>> razor wire. They unfurled banners and T-shirts that read: "Why are we > here?" >>>> "When are you going to do something about this scandal?" "We cannot > talk >>>> freely." >>>> >>>> The women, however, are kept in another part of the prison, cellblock > 1A, >>>> together with 19 "high-value" male detainees. It is inside this > olive-painted >>>> block, which leads into a courtyard of shimmering green saysaban trees > and >>>> pink flowering shrubs, that the notorious photographs of US troops >>>> humiliating Iraqi prisoners were taken, many of them on the same day, >>>> November 8 2003. A wooden interrogation shed is a short stroll away. As > we >>>> arrived at the cellblock, the women shouted to us through the bars. An > Iraqi >>>> journalist tried to talk to them; a female US soldier interrupted and > pushed >>>> him away. The windows of the women's cells have been boarded up; birds > nest >>>> in the outside drainpipe. Captain Dave Quantock, now in charge of > prisoner >>>> detention at Abu Ghraib, confirmed that the women prisoners are in > solitary >>>> confinement for 23 hours a day. They have no entertainment; they do > have a >>>> Koran. >>>> >>>> Since the scandal first emerged there is general agreement that > conditions at >>>> Abu Ghraib have improved. A new, superior catering company now provides > the >>>> inmates' food, and all the guards involved in the original allegations > of >>>> abuse have left. >>>> >>>> Nevertheless, there remain extremely troubling questions as to why > these >>>> women came to be here. Like other Iraqi prisoners, all five are > classified as >>>> "security detainees" - a term invented by the Bush administration to > justify >>>> the indefinite detention of prisoners without charge or legal access, > as part >>>> of the war on terror. US military officials will only say that they are >>>> suspected of "anti-coalition activities". >>>> >>>> Two of the women are the wives of high-ranking and absconding Ba'ath > party >>>> members; two are accused of financing the resistance; and one allegedly > had a >>>> relationship with the former head of Iraq's secret police, the > Mukhabarat. >>>> The women, in their 40s and 50s, come from Kirkuk and Baghdad; none has > seen >>>> their families or children since their arrest earlier this year. >>>> >>>> According to Swadi, who managed to visit Abu Ghraib in late March, the >>>> allegations against the women are "absurd". "One of them is supposed to > be >>>> the mistress of the former director of the Mukhabarat. In fact, she's a > widow >>>> who used to own a small shop. She also worked as a taxi driver, > ferrying >>>> children to and from kindergarten. If she really had a relationship > with the >>>> director of the Mukhabarat, she would scarcely be running a kiosk. > These are >>>> baseless charges," she adds angrily. "She is the only person who can > provide >>>> for her children." >>>> >>>> The women appear to have been arrested in violation of international > law - >>>> not because of anything they have done, but merely because of who they > are >>>> married to, and their potential intelligence value. US officials have >>>> previously acknowledged detaining Iraqi women in the hope of convincing > male >>>> relatives to provide information; when US soldiers raid a house and > fail to >>>> find a male suspect, they will frequently take away his wife or > daughter >>>> instead. >>>> >>>> The International Committee of the Red Cross, whose devastating report > on >>>> human rights abuses of Iraqi prisoners was delivered to the government > in >>>> February but failed to ring alarm bells, says the problem lies with the >>>> system. "It is an absence of judicial guarantees," says Nada Doumani, >>>> spokesperson for the ICRC. "The system is not fair, precise or properly >>>> defined." >>>> >>>> During her visit to Abu Ghraib in March, one of the prisoners told > Swadi that >>>> she had been forced to undress in front of US soldiers. "The Iraqi > translator >>>> turned his head in embarrassment," she said. The release of detainees, >>>> meanwhile, appears to be entirely arbitrary: three weeks ago one woman >>>> prisoner who spoke fluent English and who had been telling her guards > that >>>> she would sue them was suddenly released. "They got fed up with her," > another >>>> lawyer, Amal Alrawi, says. >>>> >>>> Last Friday, about 300 male prisoners were freed from Abu Ghraib, the > first >>>> detainees to be released since the abuse scandal first broke. A further > 475 >>>> are due to be released tomorrow, although it is not clear if any of the > women >>>> will be among them. General Geoffery Miller, who is responsible for >>>> overhauling US military jails in Iraq, has promised to release 1,800 >>>> prisoners across Iraq "within 45 days". Some 2,000 are likely to remain >>>> behind bars, he says. Iraqi lawyers and officials aredemanding that the > US >>>> military hands the prisons over to Iraqi management on June 30, when > the >>>> coalition transfers limited powers to a UN-appointed caretaker Iraqi >>>> government. Last week, Miller said "negotiations" with Iraqi officials > were >>>> ongoing. >>>> >>>> Relatives who gathered outside Abu Ghraib last Friday said it was > common >>>> knowledge that women had been abused inside the jail. Hamid Abdul > Hussein, >>>> 40, who was there hoping to see his brother Jabar freed, said former >>>> detainees who had returned to their home town of Mamudiya reported that >>>> several women had been raped. "We've know this for months," he said. > "We also >>>> heard that some women committed suicide." While the abuse may have > stopped, >>>> the US military appears to have learned nothing from the experience. > Swadi >>>> says that when she last tried to visit the women at Abu Ghraib, "The US >>>> guards refused to let us in. When we complained, they threatened to > arrest >>>> us." ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 01:56:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: music thread MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.brainwashed.com/matmos/about.html WHAT IS MATMOS? Matmos is M.C. Schmidt and Drew Daniel, aided and abetted by many others. In their recordings and live performances over the last nine years, Matmos have used the sounds of: amplified crayfish nerve tissue, the pages of bibles turning, a bowed five string banjo, slowed down whistles and kisses, water hitting copper plates, the runout groove of a vinyl record, a $5.00 electric guitar, liposuction surgery, cameras and VCRs, chin implant surgery, contact microphones on human hair, violins, rat cages, tanks of helium, violas, human skulls, cellos, peck horns, tubas, cards shuffling, field recordings of conversations in hot tubs, frequency response tests for defective hearing aids, a steel guitar recorded in a sewer, electrical interference generated by laser eye surgery, whoopee cushions and balloons, latex fetish clothing, rhinestones on a dinner plate, Polish trains, insects, ukelele, aspirin tablets hitting a drum kit from across the room, dogs barking, people reading aloud, life support systems and inflatable blankets, records chosen by the roll of dice, an acupuncture point detector conducting electrical current through human skin, rock salt crunching underfoot, solid gold coins spinning on bars of solid silver, the sound of a frozen stream thawing in the sun, a five gallon bucket of oatmeal. NEW MATMOS EP! RELEASE THE RATS! While some of you astute web searchers have already cottoned on, we are duty bound to report to you that Locust Records is about to plague the earth with a new Matmos EP. Entitled "Rat Relocation Program", it's our contribution to their ongoing MET LIFE series, which is always a two track affair, the first an unedited urban field recording, the second a musical response to that recording. Our liner notes tell the tale: "A street rat was breaking into our apartment, eating our food and chewing holes in our clothes. Since we already had a pet rat, the prospect of trying to kill one rat while feeding another struck us as intolerable hypocrisy, so we bought a non-lethal "Have-a-Heart Trap". After several days of luring the invader closer and closer towards and then inside the trap with peanuts, we captured her. The first track is an unedited recording of the rat protestingits incarceration. The second track is our response, in which the timing and duration of the rat screams from the first track have been preserved. The following morning we took the rat to a wealthy suburban neighborhood and set it free." Think of it as our contribution to the "talking animals" genre ("The Incredible Journey", "The Rats of N.I.M.H.","Watership Down", etc.). Fiction minded folks might consider curling up with a copy of H. P. Lovecraft's "The Rats in the Walls" or Sigmund Freud's case history of "The Rat Man" and plugging in for a long dark night. Or not. NEW MATMOS EP! RELEASE THE RATS! While some of you astute web searchers have already cottoned on, we are duty bound to report to you that Locust Records is about to plague the earth with a new Matmos EP. Entitled "Rat Relocation Program", it's our contribution to their ongoing MET LIFE series, which is always a two track affair, the first an unedited urban field recording, the second a musical response to that recording. Our liner notes tell the tale: "A street rat was breaking into our apartment, eating our food and chewing holes in our clothes. Since we already had a pet rat, the prospect of trying to kill one rat while feeding another struck us as intolerable hypocrisy, so we bought a non-lethal "Have-a-Heart Trap". After several days of luring the invader closer and closer towards and then inside the trap with peanuts, we captured her. The first track is an unedited recording of the rat protestingits incarceration. The second track is our response, in which the timing and duration of the rat screams from the first track have been preserved. The following morning we took the rat to a wealthy suburban neighborhood and set it free." Think of it as our contribution to the "talking animals" genre ("The Incredible Journey", "The Rats of N.I.M.H.","Watership Down", etc.). Fiction minded folks might consider curling up with a copy of H. P. Lovecraft's "The Rats in the Walls" or Sigmund Freud's case history of "The Rat Man" and plugging in for a long dark night. Or not. WHAT IS MATMOS DOING? The band is touring Europe. When we're not doing all of that, we are earning our crust by co-teaching a class called "Theory and Practice" in the New Genres Department of the San Francisco Art Institute. Martin teaches Technical Tuesdays and Drew teaches Theoretical Thursdays. Martin teaches people about electricity, about how to make and edit sound recordings, about how to shoot and edit video footage, and about the history of musique concrete, structuralist film, and video art. Drew has cooked up an eclectic introduction to "theory" (oh god) that takes in formal and symbolic logic, conceptual art, structural linguistics, the poetics of Oulipo, psychoanalysis, Aktionism, "heterology", and gender studies. Those of you who wish to enroll in our Matmos home study course are encouraged to acquire and enjoy the following: READ: John Shand "On Arguing Well" Henry Flynt "Concept Art" La Monte Young "An Anthology . . ." excerpts Lucy Lippard "Six Years: the Dematerialization of the Art Object" Sol Lewitt "Paragraphs on Conceptual Art" Sol Lewitt "Sentences on Conceptual Art" Joseph Kosuth "Introductory Note by the American Editor" Art + Language "Status and Priority" Peter Osbourne "Conceptual Art and/as Philosophy" Allan Kaprow "Happenings in the New York Scene" Allan Kaprow "Education of the Un-Artist" Daniel Buren "Is The Teaching of Art Necessary?" Ferdinand de Saussure "Course in General Linguistics" chptrs. 1, 2, and 4. Raymond Queneau "Exercises in Style" Raymond Queneau "Potential Literature" Harry Matthews "The Poet's Eye" William S. Burroughs "The Discipline of DE" Sigmund Freud "Leonardo da Vinci and a Memory of His Childhood" Richard Halpern "Freud's Egyptian Renaissance" Jacques Lacan "The Mirror Stage" Jacques Lacan "The Agency of the Letter in the Unconscious" Georges Bataille "The Notion of Expenditure" Georges Bataille selections from the Encyclopedia Acephalica and Documents Gilles Deleuze selections from Cinema 1: The Movement-Image Gilles Deleuze selections from Cinema 2: The Time-Image Judith Butler "Prohibition, Psychoanalysis, and the Production of the Heterosexual Matrix" Jean Baudrillard "Simulacra and Science Fiction" Paul Theberge "Any Sound You Can Imagine: Making Music/Consuming Technology" Tony Grant "Audio for Single Camera Operation" Gerald Millerson "Lighting for Video" Michael Chanan "Repeated Takes: A Short History of Recording" Marshall Mcluhan and Quentin Fiore "The Medium is the Massage" LISTEN TO: J. S. Bach "The Art of the Fugue" Henry Flynt "Central Park Transverse Vocal" Leif Elggren "The Ghost Orchid: An Introduction to EVP" Douglas Quinn "Antarctica" Chris Watson "Outside the circle of fire" Robert Ashley "Automatic Writing" La Monte Young (German radio documentary material) William S. Burroughs "Break Through in Grey Room" Steve Reich "Pendulum Music" Alvin Lucier "I am Sitting in a Room" Laurie Anderson "New York Telephone Conversation" Walter Ruttmann "Weekend" Pierre Schaeffer "Etudes aux Chemin de Fer" Pierre Henry "Variations for a Door and Sigh" Hugh le Caine "Dripsody" Edgar Varese "Poeme Electronique" Iannis Xenakis "Concret ph" Iannis Xenakis "Legende d'Er" Francis Bayle "Morceaux de Ciels" Bernard Parmegiani "Dedans/Dehors" Karlheinz Stockhausen "Gesang Der Junglinge" Karlheinz Stockhausen "Studie II" Perrey and Kingsley "Baroque Hoedown" Douglas Kahn "Reagan Speaks For Himself" John Oswald "Plunderphonics" Pauline Oliveros "Wind Horse" WATCH: Physical Science Video "Getting to Know Electricity" Tell Me Why "Electricity and Electrical Safety" UPA Pictures "Gerald McBoing Boing" John Baldessari "Baldessari Sings Lewitt" Robert Whitman "Performances From the 1960s" Michael Snow "Wavelength" Kurt Kren/Otto Muehl/Herrmann Nitsch/Gunter Brus asstd. Aktionist Films Francis Ford Coppola "The Conversation" Martin Arnold "Cinemnesis" ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 01:41:29 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Color's Torrid Function! Subject: Cotton mouth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Astride, somewhat in between but behind; love like gnarled volume null in periodic drills of sprung rain. I have lisps you installed like a song made of breaths, this wide. How tall are you, she says. She's dead. I need to waste candles around where she lies. Did you ever cup the light there, when standing up in the dark is so kill you waver? Star just done trickling off your tongue. ===== *************************************************************************** Lewis LaCook net artist, poet, freelance web developer/programmer http://www.lewislacook.com/ Stamen Pistol: http://stamenpistol.blogspot.com/ Database_shortPoems:: http://www.lewislacook.com/poems/shortpoems.php Sidereality: http://www.sidereality.com/ tubulence artist studio: http://turbulence.org/studios/lacook/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 11:30:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Armstrong Subject: Gwendolyn MacEwen Park Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wegway Primary Culture Magazine is pleased to be part of this event (forwarded message below). If you want to be removed from my mailing list, please reply with "remove," in the subject line. Thank you. Steve Armstrong, Publisher Wegway. www.wegway.com For Immediate Release: May 25, 2004 Media Contact: Randy Resh resh@pteros.com Saturday, June 5th A Reading for Gwendolyn MacEwen Park Memorial Hear Canada's national treasures read in celebration & support at this historic event: join Poet Laureates George Bowering & Dennis Lee with Margaret Atwood, bill bissett, Christian Bok, Jim Christy, George Elliott Clarke, David Donnell, Andrea Jarmai, Bruce Meyer & Joe Rosenblatt! Saturday, June 5th 2 -7 pm at Gwendolyn MacEwen Park: 1 block West of Spadina, 1 block North of Bloor a day-long, no-charge event. See our ads in Word Literary Calendar, or Quill & Quire. For updates, schedules & complete info., visit gwenpark.org In the event of foul weather: reading will be held at Walmer Road Baptist Church, adjacent to park. sponsored by Pteros Gallery, The League of Canadian Poets, Bigmouth Media, CIUT 89.5 FM., The Writers’ Union of Canada, House of Anansi Press, Coach House Press, Quill & Quire, Word Literary Calendar, The Toronto Arts council, & The Canada Council for the Arts. *Help us raise the casting costs & receive a ltd. ed. CD of new & restored archival readings! Saturday, June 5th A Reading for Gwendolyn MacEwen Park Memorial at Gwendolyn MacEwen Park: 1 block West of Spadina, 1 block North of Bloor gwenpark.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:31:28 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: PUB: call for proposals--arab american literature Comments: To: Thco2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PUB: call for proposals--arab american literature ======================================= Call for Proposals Arab American Literature Fall 2006 issue of MELUS Journal (Multi-Ethnic Literatures of the U.S.) Since September 11th teachers and scholars of American literatures have been trying to find ways to incorporate literature written by Arab Americans into literature courses. Despite the evolving canon of American literature over the past few decades, Arab American writers like Ameen Rihani or Kahlil Gibran have been overlooked though more contemporary Arab American writers like Nathalie Handal or Diana Abu Jaber may be granted a token slot in a literature course. While it is important to include these and other writers into the American literary canon, this act in isolation does not allow students or researchers to glean the full complexity of the historical and political circumstances that brought people from the Arab world to North America beginning in the early twentieth century. This issue of MELUS seeks to engage with Arab American literature through a range of historical and political issues that have conditioned Arab American intellectual and cultural work in the United States. Articles should engage with representational issues of Arabs in the United States and the contestation around Arab self-representation as well. Articles may focus on the organizational politics of Arabs in the U.S. and their efforts to build community-based initiatives that are social and political. Essay may also focus on the history of Arab language publications in the United States. The articles we seek for this special issue may address 9/11 as it looks back upon that event, but we would also like to see articles that attempt to assess the impact of 9/11. For this special issue of MELUS journal, we invite articles that engage with literature and culture, but from an interdisciplinary and theoretical perspective. Essays should be 4000-6000 words in length (including notes and works cited), clearly written, theoretically informed, and relevant to the socio-political context from which the work emerged. Please email a 500 word proposal as a Microsoft Word attachment along with a brief curriculum vitae with complete contact information by September 30, 2004 to both: Professor Marcy Newman, Boise State University, mnewman@boisestate.edu and Professor Salah Hassan, Michigan State University, hassans3@msu.edu Note: Completed essays are due (postmarked by) January 15, 2005. No previously published or simultaneous submissions, please. >> ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Peace sells but who's buying?"\ Megadeth\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ Mutabartuka\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://awol.objector.org/artistprofiles/welfarepoets.html\ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.dpgrecordz.com/fredwreck/\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/\ \ http://loudandoffensive.com/\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2\ } ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:06:52 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jonathan Skinner Subject: Re: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have been testing out Koch's books-- Wishes Lies and Dreams, Rose Where Did You Get That Red, Sleeping on the Wing-- while teaching poetry to 3rd-8th graders in public schools on Buffalo's East Side (through Just Buffalo Literary Center's writers' residencies program). My students are 95% African-American and most of them are extremely poor: forget assigning homework, or expecting the kids to come to class with pencil and paper. Many of these kids have first-hand experience of physical violence, from verbal abuse and beating to homicide. (When I ask them to write about the sounds of the neighborhood, for example, gunshots are a regular feature.) It has become increasingly apparent to me that: a) Koch was working with a vastly different demographic (and, of course, time) and/or b) the selections of student work that make up the bulk of his teaching anthologies-- largely all "sweetness and light"-- has been quietly edited of any "disturbing" content. (I don't mean to imply that class and race, or even epoch, determine the content and tone of children's writing-- why I suspect a certain amount of editorial censorship on Koch's part, either in the classroom or in assembling his anthologies.) You'd be amazed what 3rd-grade kids will write when given permission. Many of the kids I work with are developmentally disabled (so-called "crack babies") and keeping these classes in order, i.e. above the threshold of total chaos, involves (on the part of the long-term teacher) a detailed, and consistently applied, disciplinary regimen. At the same time, teachers who invite me into their classes to do poetry are obviously open to experiment and risk, and usually-- amazingly-- give me free reign. But they also will not hesitate to ask me to remove or silently suppress extremely offensive lines when I read or present student work back to the class (meanness, insults, misogynistic fantasy). Teachers rarely take a purely suppressive approach to such instances, however; instead, shocking material is engaged as a therapeutic moment and usually involves some discussion of the content with the student. If at all possible, I will take advantage of my "visiting artist" immunity to raise the issue of violent imagery with the class as a whole (without singling out the author): such "discussion" rarely works below the 7th grade level, however (where even the word "funk"-- in a poem by Amiri Baraka-- can send the kids into a five-minute spiral of raucous hilarity). Needless to say, these kids can be extremely imaginative, and endlessly inspiring. But as any teacher in the schools knows, it's often the most "troubled" or "bad" kids who do the best writing-- so that the greatest poetry often comes in a mixed bag, along with the most "offensive" or "disturbing" things. I was interested to hear of Koch's "sexy and sadistic" high school poems. Although the value of his contribution to poetry in the schools cannot be underestimated, I have been disappointed to find no discussion, in any of his pedagogical works, of the more "difficult" moments a teacher of poetry in the public schools is likely to encounter. Everything's just "fun," "joyous," "terrific," "exciting," "wonderful." (Note how "sexy" keeps the bright side up, in Koch's libidinal moment-- putting an innocent, and "fun," spin on what might otherwise, from another angle, be considered "sexist." Would he speak as openly about his "sexist and sadistic" poems?) In fact, the almost universal absence, in Koch's pedagogy, of any acknowledgement/ discussion of class, racial, sexual tensions in the classroom seems odd, to say the least. Sleeping on the Wing-- put together with Kate Farrell-- does take a step in this direction, with inclusion of poems by (sic) "Leroi Jones" (including "Cold Term" and "A Poem for Black Hearts," with the lines, "For Great Malcom a prince of the earth, let nothing in us rest/ until we avenge ourselves for his death, stupid animals/ that killed him, let us never breathe a pure breath if/ we fail and white men call us faggots till the end of the earth.") Koch's ensuing commentary, directed to the student writer, is that "To be a political poet, a poet with a cause, is in one way wonderful and inspiring. You have a theme you believe in, strong feelings, a reason to write. In another way it is difficult if you want to be a good poet. Attitudes, convictions, beliefs, however right they are, do not necessarily make good poetry." Further on, Koch notes that Jones's (Baraka's) "cause, his theme, is obviously his main inspiration. But the poem isn't limited to that: he looks at different things; he feels different things; he is filled with longing, anger, excitement, sadness, doubt, love." Interpret Koch's commentary as you will. Obviously, Baraka's "Poem for Black Hearts," with its call for vengeance, would not be "safe" (or even "legal") poetry, in the current climate. But it is not even clear whether Koch considers it "good" poetry. I am not interested in evaluating Koch-- though I would like to know of any pedagogical texts of his that do dig beneath the surface here-- so much as wondering how current teachers of poetry in the schools update the obviously limited (if useful to a point) expressivist pedagogy that launched the poetry-in-the-schools movement? "Giving permission" is, of course, a crucial first step, but there's a lot more to teaching poetry to young people, especially to young people in troubled circumstances. From another angle, it strikes me that the failure of "langpo"-related writing to articulate a poetry-in-the-schools pedagogy (beyond continually rehashing Bernadette Mayer's Writing Experiments) is a MAJOR weakness. Are there any post-expressivist teaching anthologies and/or pedagogical texts out there? I can think of books by Bernadette Mayer (Science Writing) and Jack Collom, but who else . . . ? Obviously, many "langpo"-related writers do teach poetry in the schools, so there must be a huge pool of experience to draw on for such an anthology. Or is there? Except in the hands of the most talented teachers, I am sure that most hardcore "language" or "experimental" writing falls flat on its face in the 3rd-12th grade classroom. (Hejinian's My Life, and a few other cases, are the notable exceptions that, perhaps, prove the point.) But I would love to hear from teachers who have had success teaching this kind of writing (Bernstein, Andrews, Silliman, Weiners, Davies, Howe, Watten, Harryman, Mullen, etc.) to children and adolescents-- which poems, how they were taught and what the students produced in response. I myself have found that procedural/ collaborative writing is the best way through and around the dangerous shoals of the unconscious-in-the-classroom. And obviously, the contributions of "language" writing in this area are huge. But I usually find myself going back to the surrealists for examples to use with the kids, or to post-"langpo" writers of my own generation (like Julie Patton or Bill Luoma, amongst many others). In a way, what's disturbing about the case of George T. (the "criminal" San Jose poet) is not the suppression of "free speech," so much as the fundamental misunderstanding the case evinces, on both sides, about the nature of poetry-- "a classic case of a person expressing himself and trying to communicate his feelings" (according to the defendant's lawyer). Or cf. the prosecution's equation of a work of art with a bank robber's note that happens to rhyme: "Roses are red. Violets are blue. Give me the money or I'll shoot you." (Ironically, such efficacy-- in addition to the jarringly "modern" appropriation, displacement and juxtaposition of these lines, their element of "surprise"-- may be what many a "revolutionary of the word" has secretly hoped for poetry!) But here there is no discussion of how the motivation for art can be different from the communicative motivations of utilitarian language or how, as performatives, poems differ from love notes or threats. To talk about how "feelings" are different from "intent" is an important step. But it still leaves poetry-as-such out of the conversation. We can probably lay some of the blame for this on how poetry gets taught in the schools. We certainly have Koch, amongst others, to thank for the fact that poetry writing gets taught at all. But one suspects (hopes) that the range of pedagogical resources for such teaching has expanded, and gained in sophistication, in the thirty plus years since Koch first taught 3rd graders the (poetic) virtues of wishing, lying and dreaming? JS ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 11:08:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Calif. court considers whether violent poetry is criminal In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jonathan, for this real good and interesting critical take on being "in residence" as a poet in such a challenging school. In terms of books - and it's been awhile since I've been active in a school - but my sense is that Teachers & Writers Collective's publishing arm is probably one of the best resources in terms of books that address teaching in bi-linguage and multi-ethnic circumstances - I would give them a call or look up their web site. Teachers and Writers - before it became an independent organization - was started by Herb Kohl in 1965 at Columbia. Herb's almost best seller was a book called "36 Children" about his experience of teaching elementary school in Harlem. T&W - from the start - was, and I would hope remains - inclusive in terms of its participating poets (which in those days included Victor Hernandez Cruz and David Henderson). Then came Kenneth Koch's first book on his teaching experiences with - a big success as well, but definitely much more non-inner City affair. On one hand poets have that book to thank for the NEA supporting poetry-in-the-schools projects across the country. (I was one of the first California Coordinators for the program in the early Seventies through the Poetry Center at SF State). As wonderful as the Koch book was, in a way its biggest problem in the City was that it was so, for lack of a better term, "white", and definitely Mandarin in its literary persuasion. (My impression was the Herb and Koch did not exactly cotton to each other) Definitely was without "funk", or much that engaged with kids who were being strongly shaped by other influences. I, frankly, recently on this list, without initially responding, was bothered by Koch's conviction that the poet should introduce difficult and challenging poems - of which the subtext I interpreted - fairly or not - was not to take poems that were responsive to or of the social/cultural context of the students. (Or that the local was without such sophistication) At its worst that the pedagogical intention/message there is that one should teach by imperial example. Which is an old story. Similar to the Brits teaching Wordsworth's "daffodils" in tropical Africa where such flower had never seen the light of day. Not that the locals might not want to have curiosity about about daffodils - and in these days, a rich institution could Google up the image - the problem is that the expat teachers never took that much interest, or deigned to think there was a local literature - though it may not come in the medium of a book. I remember too well of going to West Africa at 23 thinking that I would bring WCW to my University creative writing students - assuming that the students would love the work, drop the inculcation of Yeats, Pound etc and -like me - take to WCW as the way to perceive and interpret their world. It took me about a year to shut up and listen to 'the there of the there'. I mean African cultures have been around for a few thousand years - robust in literatures, arts and various critical aesthetics of what constitutes the "well made" - in short - it was all quite humbling. I realized I would have to be there for years to know where I was and I am sure I ended up by being given much more than I gave. Even got some friends and students into WCW! I think what's interesting - given your circumstance - is the chemistry of the works you bring as an outsider and what the worlds students bring as "insiders" - it's that concoction that generates work that can be genuinely liberating & surprising - for teacher and student - rather than emulative. Of course, none of this is easy. Stephen V > I have been testing out Koch's books-- Wishes Lies and Dreams, Rose Where > Did You Get That Red, Sleeping on the Wing-- while teaching poetry to > 3rd-8th graders in public schools on Buffalo's East Side (through Just > Buffalo Literary Center's writers' residencies program). My students are > 95% African-American and most of them are extremely poor: forget assigning > homework, or expecting the kids to come to class with pencil and paper. > Many of these kids have first-hand experience of physical violence, from > verbal abuse and beating to homicide. (When I ask them to write about the > sounds of the neighborhood, for example, gunshots are a regular feature.) > It has become increasingly apparent to me that: a) Koch was working with a > vastly different demographic (and, of course, time) and/or b) the selections > of student work that make up the bulk of his teaching anthologies-- largely > all "sweetness and light"-- has been quietly edited of any "disturbing" > content. (I don't mean to imply that class and race, or even epoch, > determine the content and tone of children's writing-- why I suspect a > certain amount of editorial censorship on Koch's part, either in the > classroom or in assembling his anthologies.) You'd be amazed what 3rd-grade > kids will write when given permission. > > Many of the kids I work with are developmentally disabled (so-called "crack > babies") and keeping these classes in order, i.e. above the threshold of > total chaos, involves (on the part of the long-term teacher) a detailed, and > consistently applied, disciplinary regimen. At the same time, teachers who > invite me into their classes to do poetry are obviously open to experiment > and risk, and usually-- amazingly-- give me free reign. But they also will > not hesitate to ask me to remove or silently suppress extremely offensive > lines when I read or present student work back to the class (meanness, > insults, misogynistic fantasy). Teachers rarely take a purely suppressive > approach to such instances, however; instead, shocking material is engaged > as a therapeutic moment and usually involves some discussion of the content > with the student. If at all possible, I will take advantage of my "visiting > artist" immunity to raise the issue of violent imagery with the class as a > whole (without singling out the author): such "discussion" rarely works > below the 7th grade level, however (where even the word "funk"-- in a poem > by Amiri Baraka-- can send the kids into a five-minute spiral of raucous > hilarity). Needless to say, these kids can be extremely imaginative, and > endlessly inspiring. But as any teacher in the schools knows, it's often > the most "troubled" or "bad" kids who do the best writing-- so that the > greatest poetry often comes in a mixed bag, along with the most "offensive" > or "disturbing" things. > > I was interested to hear of Koch's "sexy and sadistic" high school poems. > Although the value of his contribution to poetry in the schools cannot be > underestimated, I have been disappointed to find no discussion, in any of > his pedagogical works, of the more "difficult" moments a teacher of poetry > in the public schools is likely to encounter. Everything's just "fun," > "joyous," "terrific," "exciting," "wonderful." (Note how "sexy" keeps the > bright side up, in Koch's libidinal moment-- putting an innocent, and "fun," > spin on what might otherwise, from another angle, be considered "sexist." > Would he speak as openly about his "sexist and sadistic" poems?) In fact, > the almost universal absence, in Koch's pedagogy, of any acknowledgement/ > discussion of class, racial, sexual tensions in the classroom seems odd, to > say the least. > > Sleeping on the Wing-- put together with Kate Farrell-- does take a step in > this direction, with inclusion of poems by (sic) "Leroi Jones" (including > "Cold Term" and "A Poem for Black Hearts," with the lines, "For Great Malcom > a prince of the earth, let nothing in us rest/ until we avenge ourselves for > his death, stupid animals/ that killed him, let us never breathe a pure > breath if/ we fail and white men call us faggots till the end of the > earth.") Koch's ensuing commentary, directed to the student writer, is that > "To be a political poet, a poet with a cause, is in one way wonderful and > inspiring. You have a theme you believe in, strong feelings, a reason to > write. In another way it is difficult if you want to be a good poet. > Attitudes, convictions, beliefs, however right they are, do not necessarily > make good poetry." Further on, Koch notes that Jones's (Baraka's) "cause, > his theme, is obviously his main inspiration. But the poem isn't limited to > that: he looks at different things; he feels different things; he is filled > with longing, anger, excitement, sadness, doubt, love." Interpret Koch's > commentary as you will. Obviously, Baraka's "Poem for Black Hearts," with > its call for vengeance, would not be "safe" (or even "legal") poetry, in the > current climate. But it is not even clear whether Koch considers it "good" > poetry. > > I am not interested in evaluating Koch-- though I would like to know of any > pedagogical texts of his that do dig beneath the surface here-- so much as > wondering how current teachers of poetry in the schools update the obviously > limited (if useful to a point) expressivist pedagogy that launched the > poetry-in-the-schools movement? "Giving permission" is, of course, a > crucial first step, but there's a lot more to teaching poetry to young > people, especially to young people in troubled circumstances. From another > angle, it strikes me that the failure of "langpo"-related writing to > articulate a poetry-in-the-schools pedagogy (beyond continually rehashing > Bernadette Mayer's Writing Experiments) is a MAJOR weakness. Are there any > post-expressivist teaching anthologies and/or pedagogical texts out there? > I can think of books by Bernadette Mayer (Science Writing) and Jack Collom, > but who else . . . ? Obviously, many "langpo"-related writers do teach > poetry in the schools, so there must be a huge pool of experience to draw on > for such an anthology. Or is there? > > Except in the hands of the most talented teachers, I am sure that most > hardcore "language" or "experimental" writing falls flat on its face in the > 3rd-12th grade classroom. (Hejinian's My Life, and a few other cases, are > the notable exceptions that, perhaps, prove the point.) But I would love to > hear from teachers who have had success teaching this kind of writing > (Bernstein, Andrews, Silliman, Weiners, Davies, Howe, Watten, Harryman, > Mullen, etc.) to children and adolescents-- which poems, how they were > taught and what the students produced in response. I myself have found that > procedural/ collaborative writing is the best way through and around the > dangerous shoals of the unconscious-in-the-classroom. And obviously, the > contributions of "language" writing in this area are huge. But I usually > find myself going back to the surrealists for examples to use with the kids, > or to post-"langpo" writers of my own generation (like Julie Patton or Bill > Luoma, amongst many others). > > In a way, what's disturbing about the case of George T. (the "criminal" San > Jose poet) is not the suppression of "free speech," so much as the > fundamental misunderstanding the case evinces, on both sides, about the > nature of poetry-- "a classic case of a person expressing himself and trying > to communicate his feelings" (according to the defendant's lawyer). Or cf. > the prosecution's equation of a work of art with a bank robber's note that > happens to rhyme: "Roses are red. Violets are blue. Give me the money or > I'll shoot you." (Ironically, such efficacy-- in addition to the jarringly > "modern" appropriation, displacement and juxtaposition of these lines, their > element of "surprise"-- may be what many a "revolutionary of the word" has > secretly hoped for poetry!) > > But here there is no discussion of how the motivation for art can be > different from the communicative motivations of utilitarian language or how, > as performatives, poems differ from love notes or threats. To talk about > how "feelings" are different from "intent" is an important step. But it > still leaves poetry-as-such out of the conversation. > > We can probably lay some of the blame for this on how poetry gets taught in > the schools. We certainly have Koch, amongst others, to thank for the fact > that poetry writing gets taught at all. But one suspects (hopes) that the > range of pedagogical resources for such teaching has expanded, and gained in > sophistication, in the thirty plus years since Koch first taught 3rd graders > the (poetic) virtues of wishing, lying and dreaming? > > JS ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 16:32:01 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: petition for war resisters comming to Canada From the U.S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://www.petitiononline.com/resister/petition.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:00:19 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sina Queyras Subject: Wed, 6/2: reading by Adania Shibli (writer, Palestine) Comments: To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@rci.rutgers.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adania Shibliinternational residency program presents=20 a reading by Adania Shibli (writer, Palestine)=20 Wednesday, June 2 at 6:30 pm=20 Adania Shibli, born in Palestine in 1974, made her main studies in the = field of journalism and communication. She has been publishing regularly = in literary magazines in the Arab world and in Europe. Her first novel, = Masas, was published in Arabic in 2002 by Al Adab Publishing House = (Beirut), and recently in French by Actes-Sud Publishing House. Her = second novel, We Are All Equally Far From Love, also published by Al = Adab, was just released this month. Shibli has been given twice the = Young Writer's Award-Palestine by the A.M. Qattan Foundation. Currently, = she lives and works in Ramallah.=20 Adania Shibli was recommended to apexart's residency program by = Christine Tohme, founding member of Ashkal Alwan (est 1994), a not for = profit organisation based in Beirut, Lebanon dedicated to developing = multi-disciplinary art practices within Lebanon and the region.=20 Rasha Salti (ArteEast, NYC & Ashkal-Alwan, Beirut) will introduce Adania = Shibli, who will then read from a selection of her short stories about = daily life in Palestine in both Arabic and English. A discussion = following will be lead by Suhail Shadoud (Adjunct Professor, Arabic = Language at Columbia University). Please join us.=20 All events are open to the public and free. apexart's public programs are supported in part by the Kettering Family = Foundation and with public funds from the New York State Council on the = Arts, a State agency. apexart 291 Church Street, NYC, 10013 t. 212 431 5270 www.apexart.org Directions: A, C, E, N, R, Q, 6 to Canal and 2, 3 to Franklin. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:51:03 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Cotton mouth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tongue lost too much star power attract a stream 'n light fall into the rain grey light attached ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:23:48 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinsky Subject: Re: Politics, poetics (reply to Alison Croggon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit constant the dribble of the leaking minds like the drizzle outside when the archive is full of drivle they'll burn it down ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 21:17:49 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Andrew Lundwall Subject: art + literature = poetic inhalation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed dear respected colleagues, friends, the june issue of www.poeticinhalation.com is now online featuring... the poetry of cheryl snell, eric beeny, doug draime, sheila murphy, john grey, vernon waring, pedro trevino-ramirez, rosemarie crisafi, timo korento, alexandre amprimoz, and yermiyahu ahron taub accompanied by the artistry of filiz emma soyak... and the creative writing of david bromige, richard denner, sarah rosenthal, and pat lawrence... new feature ebooks include "4 from 4 does not equal zero" by mtc cronin with art by ursula diaz and "[div]versions" by jukka-pekka kervinen with art by drew mariano... ric carfagna reviews "fusion" by tim miller and tom hibbard reviews the work of vernon frazer in "impression face: an overview of the poetry of vernon frazer"... as always we accept poetry... translations... reviews...short fiction... artwork... for more info visit http://www.poeticinhalation.com/biography.html poetic cheers! andrew lundwall + jeannie smith co-founders/managing editors http://www.poeticinhalation.com _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 23:03:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrew loewen Subject: Re: Mr. Burning Drivel and the Poetics of BLAMMO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii “I’ve gotta headache in my pants!” -- Turbonegro I. nor will simple adherence to the left margin make poetry worthy of fuel let alone ire II. don’t know if you care but Steve I love your cock the ram bam bam of your tongue up my bum III. when flamers/ switch hitters start flaming Dalachinsky’s sky plums beware ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca