========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 03:07:27 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tim Peterson Subject: SEGUE 5/05/07: Susan Bee and Johanna Drucker Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The Segue Reading Series presents Susan Bee & Johanna Drucker will give a multimedia presentation and talk about collaboration Saturday, May 5, 2007 **3:45PM** at the Bowery Poetry Club (308 Bowery, just north of Houston) $6 admission goes to support the readers hosted by Erica Kaufman & Tim Peterson Susan Bee is a painter, editor, and book artist living in NYC. Bee has had four solo shows at A.I.R. Gallery in NYC. Granary Books has published six of her artist's books, including A Girl's Life with Johanna Drucker. She has collaborated with Charles Bernstein on five books. Her website is: http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bee. For more information on Susan Bee, please also visit: M/E/A/N/I/N/G Online http://writing.upenn.edu/pepc/meaning/ A Girl's Life http://www.granarybooks.com/books/a_girls_life/a_girls_life1.html http://www.analogous.net/beedruckercollab.html Johanna Drucker is currently the Robertson Professor of Media Studies at the University of Virginia and Professor in the Department of English. Her most recent critical work is Sweet Dreams: Contemporary Art and Complicity. Drucker is internationally known as a book artist and experimental, visual poet whose work has been exhibited and collected in special collections in libraries and museums nationwide. For more information on Johanna Drucker, please visit: Johanna Drucker's EPC page: http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/drucker/ Drucker's page at the Media Studies Program at UVA: http://people.virginia.edu/~jrd8e/ Essay on Susan Bee and Miriam Laufer: http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pepc/meaning/Laufer/drucker.html Tongues: A Parent Language (from EOAGH #2) http://chax.org/eoagh/issuetwo/drucker.htm * * * For the entire Spring 2007 Segue Reading Series, visit http://www.seguefoundation.com/calendar.htm Segue blog with photos and commentary at http://segueseries.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:24:13 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Very short stories. Six words! Comments: To: Theory and Writing , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, ubuweb@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed NOVA COOKIE & FROZEN HELL Hemingway once wrote a story in just six words : "For sale: baby shoes, never worn." and is said to have called it his best work. So I asked writers to take a shot themselves. Very short stories. Six words ! http://novacookie.blogspot.com/ SUBMISSIONS ARE WELCOME. Any language. Send your six words story to : novacook6@aol.com (Translations will be available in comments) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:25:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Boog City 40 Free PDF, and Free PDF Subscriptions, Available Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, If you'd like to receive a free pdf subscription to Boog City, beginning with the current issue, BC40 (contents' description below), simply reply to this note with the email address where you'd like it to be sent. Thanks, David -------------------- Boog City 40 =20 featuring: =20 ***Our Politics section, edited by Christina Strong*** =20 --=B3Maybe after going to museums for more than 30 years I still couldn=B9t define art, but I can tell you that if art is satisfying it hasn=B9t done its job.=B2 --from Who=B9s Come a Long Way, Baby? Thoughts on The Dinner Party and the Global Feminisms Exhibit by Strong =20 =20 ***Our Printed Matter section, edited by Mark Lamoureux*** =20 --=B3In the poetic tapestry of this chapbook where darkness has victory, the poem =8CAll Saints Day=B9 tells us that =8Cthe theme of death is our thiefhood.=B9=B2 --from Our Thiefhood, Evangeline Downs by Micah Ballard (Ugly Duckling Presse), reviewed by Michael Carr =20 --=B3The poems are so funny, and resistant to interpretation, that it is tempting to take them at face value, like an Andy Warhol Campbell=B9s Soup can, a Jeff Koons puppy, or a Marcel Duchamp urinal.=B2 --from Twisted Gems, Erased Art by Tenney Nathanson (Chax Press), reviewed by Adam Fieled =20 =20 ***Our Music section, edited by Jon Berger*** =20 --=B3Dina Dean=B9s voice is the unification of her influences; somewhere betwee= n a croon and a growl, in =8CThe Radio Song=B9 she tells the story of a sleepless character=B9s love affair with the radio.=B2 =20 =B3Every added note, every new change in a simple pattern has a magnified importance, giving Randi Russo=B9s songs wave after wave of subtle dramatic leaps.=B2--from Alliterative Albums: Acoustic Songwriters Get Their Due by Casey Holford =20 =20 ***And the Relaunch of Our Comics section *** =20 --=B3I=B9ve reread this first issue maybe a dozen times since Jerel debuted it at the MoCCA Art Festival last summer, and it=B9s a different experience nearly every reading, as startling and flabbergasting as it is rewarding, not unlike returning to a computer that has been overtaken by a benign but active=8Band actively mischievous=8Bvirus.=B2 --from Jerel Elbows the Comics Envelope by Gary Sullivan =20 --Freak Folk Meets Hip Hop, a comic from Jeffrey Lewis =20 =20 ***Art editor Brenda Iijima brings us work from Greenpoint=B9s Brenda Zlamany*** =20 =20 ***Our Poetry section, edited by Laura Elrick and Rodrigo Toscano*** =20 --Harlem=B9s Tonya Foster with an excerpt from Work-a-Day Bodies of young men=8B spent smoke, spent casings graph one among many points =20 Bodies of young men=8B sight-specific installations=8B stoops, corners. =20 --Philadelphia=B9s Frank Sherlock with an excerpt from Wounds in an Imaginary Nature Show [=8A] =20 A mirror =20 & a token =20 of the outdoors =20 =20 can bring =20 the walking =20 dead back to =20 life even =20 =20 if the skillset =20 that facilitates =20 crawling has to =20 be relearned =20 =20 *And photos from Aislinn Weidele and Donald Woodman.* =20 ----- =20 And thanks to our copy editor, Joe Bates. =20 ----- =20 Please patronize our advertisers: =20 Bowery Poetry Club * http://www.bowerypoetry.com ::fait accompli:: * http://www.nickpiombino.blogspot.com/ Live Magazine!=20 OJ All Day * http://www.ojallday.com/ Pavement Saw Press * http://www.pavementsaw.org/ Pocket Myths * http://www.pocketmyths.com/ =20 =20 ----- =20 Advertising or donation inquiries can be directed to editor@boogcity.com or by calling 212-842-BOOG (2664) -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcityevents.blogspot.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:10:06 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: { brad brace } Subject: several gigs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Many headed monsters -- unless, of course, there's no such thing as chance, in which case Brad - for all his age and sensitivity - was nothing less than a time-bomb, ticking softly away until his appointed time; in which case, we should either - optimistically - get up and cheer, because if everything is planned in advance, then we all have a meaning, and are spared the terror of knowing ourselves to be random, without a _why, or else, of course, we might - as pessimists - give up right here and now, understanding the futility of thought, decisions, action, since nothing we think makes any difference anyway; things will be as they will. 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If you have it, please please return it; I'm at a loss here and desperately need it. Thanks, Alan /* from the archives http://www.asondheim.org/tern3.mp4 i am so cold here. i cannot see here. i have amenorrhea here. i am anorectic here. you swim my platelets here. my platelets are "blood." i use diuretics here. i am dry here. i am confined here. i am blood platelet. i have anovulation here. i am prenom here. i am "a". i am "an". i am so cold here. i am ice here. you break my skin here. you tear my platelets. you take my platelets. you do me good tern. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 02:25:12 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Ciccariello Subject: the poem, adrift MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline the poem, adrift -- Peter Ciccariello http://invisiblenotes.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 00:11:27 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lewis LaCook Subject: Loom blue Comments: To: rhizome , webartery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I walk through a storm when everything is blue. A car furiously escapes, peeling mosquito shaves from grounded air. And lightning shrivelling such aimless skies tonight. We’ll work through this together, but my feet cripple me later, by then all those houses stick to them. She started talking about ghosts and killings and shit. I guess you know what I mean; colds arrange their fluent sheaves around us, as on Toledo Road as on North Ridge, arresting walking sleep: this is a fuck of demon. They connect behind the Circle-K. I’ll speak to you in lights, and kneel. You’ve never lost anything. I win. Blue breath. Lewis LaCook Director of Web Development Abstract Outlooks Media 440-989-6481 http://www.abstractoutlooks.com Abstract Outlooks Media - Premium Web Hosting, Development, and Art Photography http://www.lewislacook.org lewislacook.org - New Media Poetry and Poetics http://www.xanaxpop.org Xanax Pop - the Poetry of Lewis LaCook --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 09:46:08 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anny Ballardini Subject: Issue five of Otoliths MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline has just gone live, which means it's a year old today. It's also May Day, so arise & join in a chorus of The Internationale with Paul Siegell, Andrew Topel, Jordan Stempleman, Ernesto Priego, Paolo Manalo= , Eileen Tabios, Jeff Harrison, Katrinka Moore, Corey Mesler, Raymond Farr, Steve Rodgers, Robert Lee Brewer, Mark Cunningham, Martin Edmond, Steve Timm, James Sanders, Audacia Dangereyes, Thomas Fink, Spencer Selby, Maria Zajkowski, Richard Lopez, Marcia Arrieta, Tom Hibbard, Matina Stamatakis, Louise Landes Levi, M=E1rton Kopp=E1ny, Anny Ballardini, Jill Jones, Craig Santos Perez, mIEKAL aND, Dax Bayard-Murray, Ed Schenk, MTC Cronin, Alana Madison, Alexander Jorgensen, Andrew Taylor, Carol Novack (& Stan Crocker), Stephanie Green, Maurice Oliver, Caleb Puckett, David-Baptiste Chirot, Dere= k Motion, James Maughn, Michael Rothenberg, Tom Beckett, Nick Piombino & Richard Kostelanetz as they "change henceforth the old tradition". Enjoy. Mark Young Otoliths ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 03:50:19 -0700 Reply-To: rsillima@yahoo.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: The Permanent Avant Comments: To: Brit-po , New Po , UK Poetry , Ann White MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT POSTS The Permanent Avant: Tony Trehy and cognitive poetics The Permanent Avant: contexts for Spencer Selby (Twist of Address) Spring readings by Ron Silliman in Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington & New York Linh Dinh’s Jam Alerts: letters home from Dystopia Cole Swensen and The Glass Age 3 focused anthologies – For the Time-Being: The Bootstrap Book of Poetic Journals, Third Rail: The Poetry of Rock and Roll, Poets on Painters A poem by Nancy Shaw (1962-2007) http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 07:45:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: ars poetica update Comments: To: announce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The ars poetica project continues to thrill and amaze at: http://www.logolalia.com/arspoetica/ Poems appeared last week by: Richard Denner and Ed Coletti. Poems will appear this week by: Ed Coletti, Lanny Quarles, Kaye Aldenhoven, Sheila E. Murphy, and Mark Young. A new poem about poetry every day. Enjoy, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 08:40:34 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: April's $100 winner at vispoets.com Comments: To: announce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In the reward for interestingness's now monthly event*, the winner for April is: Peter Ciccariello for this piece: love flies low whisper** Congratulations to Peter, there's $100 worth of materials on their way to you from Jukka-Pekka Kervinen's cPress, xPress, etc.. Enjoy! Thanks to everyone who uploaded images to the Gallery this month. Keep uploading new images for your chance to win. *http://vispoets.com/index.php?showtopic=481 **http://vispoets.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=1219 Regards, Dan PS: if you have a press that publishes visual poetry and are able to send "$100 worth of publications, your choice, including postage" to future winners, please email me with your interest. --- Our members have posted a total of 1218 images and made 138 comments. Total Gallery Size: 215.02mb Total Image Views: 12641 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 09:39:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Kelleher Subject: Literary Buffalo E-Newsletter 4.30.07-5.6.07 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SORRY IF YOU'VE RECEIVED THIS TWICE -- WE'VE HAD SOME EMAIL ISSUES AND HAVE= HAD TO RESEND A NUMBER OF TIMES. LITERARY BUFFALO 4.30.07-5.6.07 LITERARY BUFFALO IN THE NEWS R.D. Pohl on Ethan Paquin's new book of poems at the Buffalo News Poetry Bl= og http://buffalonews.typepad.com/poetry_beat/ Local Poets James Burdick and Greogory Solak in Artvoice http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n17/poetry THE BIG READ IS HERE=21 All of Buffalo is reading and talking about Zora Neale Hurston's novel, The= ir Eyes Were Watching God. Events will take place around the city during the month of May. Buy a copy = at Talking Leaves...Books. Visit http://www.justbuffalo.org/events/bigread.shtml for a complete schedu= le. See weekly schedule below for a list of this week's Big Read Events. Also, look for our beautifully designed Big Read Bus Shelter ads by artist = Julian Montague at the following bus shelters around town: Hertel & North Park Colvin & Sheridan Elmwood & Amherst Sheridan & Delaware Hertel & Kmart Hertel & Parkside Colvin & Kenmore Elmwood & Kenmore Grant & Amherst Elmwood & Albright-Knox Art Gallery Niagara Square & State Building Ellicott & North Division Elmwood & Bryant Church & Franklin Elmwood & Summer Ellicott & Broadway Niagara Square & City Hall Niagara Square & Federal Building E. Lovejoy & North Ogden Fillmore & Broadway Broadway & Bailey READINGS THIS WEEK Unless otherwise indicated, all readings are free and open to the public. 5.01.07 THE BIG READ KICK-OFF AT CITY HALL Join Superintendent James E. Williams, Ed.D; Helene Kramer, Executive Direc= tor of Good Schools for All; and Laurie Dean Torrell, Executive Director of= Just Buffalo Literary Center for a Mayoral Proclamation on the steps of Ci= ty Hall. 10 a.m. City Hall, Niagara Square & LABOR READS DAY IS MAY 1 (INTERNATIONAL LABOR DAY) Labor Unions around the city, lead by the 1199 Bread and Roses Project, wil= l be holding book discussions ABOUT THEIR EYES WERE WATCHING GOD. Check wi= th your union to find out where these events are happening. & HALLWALLS & Subversive Theatre Collective present SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER: VOICES FROM BEYOND THE DARK A May Day staged reading of the play by Ariel Dorfman TUESDAY MAY 1, 7:30 P.M. 5.02.07 THE BIG READ JCC BOOK DISCUSSION GROUP WEDNESDAY, MAY 2, 1:30 pm Jewish Community Center_ 2640 North Forest Road, Getzville_ & TALKING LEAVES...BOOKS Mike Palacek, author and activist Book signing for: The American Dream (CWG Press) Wednesday, May 2, 3 p.m. Talking Leaves Main St. Store & TALKING LEAVES...BOOKS Ana Mariella Bacigalupo Discussion and signing for: Shamans of the Foye Tree: Gender, Power and Hea= ling Among Chilean Mapuche (University of Texas Press), Wednesday, May 2, 5 p.m. Talking Leaves Main St. Store & THE BIG READ DRAMATIC READING FROM THEIR EYES WERE WATCHING GOD WEDNESDAY, MAY 2, 7 P.M. Merriweather Library 1324 Jefferson Avenue Performed by Annette Daniels Taylor and others. & HALLWALLS AND TALKING LEAVES...BOOKS Mark Goldman, entrepreneur, author, community activist and historian Talk , reading and book signing for: City on the Edge: Buffalo, New York (P= rometheus Books) Wednesday, May 2, 7:30 pm Hallwalls at The Church, 341 Delaware Avenue, Buffalo, NY 14202 716-854-169= 4 & CENTER FOR INQUIRY/JUST BUFFALO LITERARY CAF=C9 Joanna Dicker-Bachmann & Mike Palecek_ Wednesday, May 2, 7:30 p.m._ Center for Inquiry, 1310 Sweet Home Road, Amherst Anyone who would like to read their work for five minutes may sign up to do= so just prior to the start of the reading. 5.03.07 COMMUNIIQUE: JUST BUFFALO'S FLASH FICTION SERIES Forrest Roth Book Launch for: Line and Pause Thursday, May 3, 7 p.m. Rust Belt Books, 202 Allen St., Buffalo 5.04.07 THE BIG READ Read-out-loud of Their Eyes Were Watching God . Friday, May 4, 11-3 p.m. Borders Books_3480 Amelia Dr ., Orchard Park_ & JUST BUFFALO AND THE ALBRIGHT-KNOX ART GALLERY Buffalo Poetry Slam Championship_ FEATURING: National Slam Champs: Lynne Procope and Marty Mcconnell COMPETING: N'tare Ali Gault, Howard Smith (reigning Buffalo champ), Nikki G= ermany, Jim Anotnik, Lovely, James Cooper III, MC Vendetta, Knickie D. Friday, May 4, 7 p.m._Clifton Hall, Albright-Knox Art Gallery. =2412_ Proceeds benefit the Buffalo Slam Team. 5.05.07 THE BIG READ Read-out-loud of Their Eyes Were Watching God . Saturday, May 5, 11-3 p.m. Borders Books_2015 Walden Ave., Cheektowaga 5.06.07 TRU-TEAS/INSITE GALLERY A.E. Felix Poetry Reading as Insite Gallery Yin/Yang Show Sunday, May 6, 4 p.m. Couples encouraged to attend and participate in the open mic RECURRING LITERARY EVENTS JUST BUFFALO WRITER'S CRITIQUE GROUP Members of Just Buffalo are welcome to attend a free, bi-monthly writer cri= tique group in CEPA's Flux Gallery on the first floor of the historic Marke= t Arcade Building across the street from Shea's. Group meets 1st and 3rd We= dnesday at 7 p.m. Call Just Buffalo for details. WESTERN NEW YORK ROMANCE WRITERS group meets the third Wednesday of every m= onth at St. Joseph Hospital community room at 11a.m. Address: 2605 Harlem R= oad, Cheektowaga, NY 14225. For details go to www.wnyrw.org. 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For more info, or t= o join now, go to our website: http://www.justbuffalo.org/membership/index.shtml UNSUBSCRIBE If you would like to unsubscribe from this list, just say so and you will b= e immediately removed. _______________________________ Michael Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center Market Arcade 617 Main St., Ste. 202A Buffalo, NY 14203 716.832.5400 716.270.0184 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk=40justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 07:29:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Re: the poem, adrift In-Reply-To: <8f3fdbad0704302325t6e8850d5qfb9e160702a132e5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > the poem, adrift ehe, that's nice. a sense of serif spume and ear ear for the sea surge murmur of old mens' voices. ja ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 07:32:37 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Fieled Subject: Poetics Dialogue: Archambeau/Fieled on PFS Post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Check out the latest in the "Waxing Hot" poetics dialogue series on PFS Post: Robert Archambeau and Adam Fieled: http://www.artrecess.blogspot.com Addressed: book-length poems, single poems, transparency, opacity, commodofication, Marxism, Stevens, Koons, Matthias, Goldbarth, DuPlessis, McCabe, Wordsworth, Coleridge, lang-po, Sartre, Shepherd, Eliot, Dylan, canon-as-bordello, burning poems, not burning poems, Duchamp, Warhol, Jeremy Prynne, Chicago Eliotics, Allegrezza, Bianchi, Muench, Halle, Derrida, Deleuze, lots, lots more.... --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 08:32:43 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Eric Dickey Subject: Re: Boog City 40 Free PDF, and Free PDF Subscriptions, Available In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'd like to see what it's all about... at least for one issue... thanks for the generous offer "David A. Kirschenbaum" wrote: Hi all, If you'd like to receive a free pdf subscription to Boog City, beginning with the current issue, BC40 (contents' description below), simply reply to this note with the email address where you'd like it to be sent. Thanks, David -------------------- Boog City 40 featuring: ***Our Politics section, edited by Christina Strong*** --³Maybe after going to museums for more than 30 years I still couldn¹t define art, but I can tell you that if art is satisfying it hasn¹t done its job.² --from Who¹s Come a Long Way, Baby? Thoughts on The Dinner Party and the Global Feminisms Exhibit by Strong ***Our Printed Matter section, edited by Mark Lamoureux*** --³In the poetic tapestry of this chapbook where darkness has victory, the poem ŒAll Saints Day¹ tells us that Œthe theme of death is our thiefhood.¹² --from Our Thiefhood, Evangeline Downs by Micah Ballard (Ugly Duckling Presse), reviewed by Michael Carr --³The poems are so funny, and resistant to interpretation, that it is tempting to take them at face value, like an Andy Warhol Campbell¹s Soup can, a Jeff Koons puppy, or a Marcel Duchamp urinal.² --from Twisted Gems, Erased Art by Tenney Nathanson (Chax Press), reviewed by Adam Fieled ***Our Music section, edited by Jon Berger*** --³Dina Dean¹s voice is the unification of her influences; somewhere between a croon and a growl, in ŒThe Radio Song¹ she tells the story of a sleepless character¹s love affair with the radio.² ³Every added note, every new change in a simple pattern has a magnified importance, giving Randi Russo¹s songs wave after wave of subtle dramatic leaps.²--from Alliterative Albums: Acoustic Songwriters Get Their Due by Casey Holford ***And the Relaunch of Our Comics section *** --³I¹ve reread this first issue maybe a dozen times since Jerel debuted it at the MoCCA Art Festival last summer, and it¹s a different experience nearly every reading, as startling and flabbergasting as it is rewarding, not unlike returning to a computer that has been overtaken by a benign but active‹and actively mischievous‹virus.² --from Jerel Elbows the Comics Envelope by Gary Sullivan --Freak Folk Meets Hip Hop, a comic from Jeffrey Lewis ***Art editor Brenda Iijima brings us work from Greenpoint¹s Brenda Zlamany*** ***Our Poetry section, edited by Laura Elrick and Rodrigo Toscano*** --Harlem¹s Tonya Foster with an excerpt from Work-a-Day Bodies of young men‹ spent smoke, spent casings graph one among many points Bodies of young men‹ sight-specific installations‹ stoops, corners. --Philadelphia¹s Frank Sherlock with an excerpt from Wounds in an Imaginary Nature Show [Š] A mirror & a token of the outdoors can bring the walking dead back to life even if the skillset that facilitates crawling has to be relearned *And photos from Aislinn Weidele and Donald Woodman.* ----- And thanks to our copy editor, Joe Bates. ----- Please patronize our advertisers: Bowery Poetry Club * http://www.bowerypoetry.com ::fait accompli:: * http://www.nickpiombino.blogspot.com/ Live Magazine! OJ All Day * http://www.ojallday.com/ Pavement Saw Press * http://www.pavementsaw.org/ Pocket Myths * http://www.pocketmyths.com/ ----- Advertising or donation inquiries can be directed to editor@boogcity.com or by calling 212-842-BOOG (2664) -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcityevents.blogspot.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:26:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Vote Now to Impeach Cheney & Bush Comments: To: Theory and Writing , dreamtime@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Vote Now to Impeach Cheney & Bush * The People's Email Network, Posted May 1, 2007 Straight to the Source VOTING ACTION PAGE: http://www.usalone.com/cheney_impeachment.php Cast your vote and send your message to Congress at the same time! As courageously drafted by Dennis Kucinich in H.Res. 333 filed just last week, the first and most central ground stated for the impeachment of Vice President Cheney was that he led the charge in fabricating a case for invasion of Iraq, based on phony weapons of mass destruction. Now almost as if it were timed to coincide with that initiative, former CIA head George Tenet reveals they knew their evidence was flimsy, erroneous and just plain bogus all along, but that Cheney just kept exaggerating the threat anyway. This is without question the most momentous issue of our time, and whether you agree that Cheney should be impeached, or not, your voice is needed to speak out now, and tell Congress what they should do about it. You can vote yes. Or you can vote no. But we cannot remain silent. Of course, anyone who's been honestly and fairly paying attention has known at least since the exposure of the Downing Street Minutes that we were misled into the Iraq quagmire, by an executive branch that could not be bothered with either the actual facts or a serious policy debate about them, Richard Clarke told us the same thing and he was smeared in the corporate media for his truth telling, as has every other previous lesser whistle blower. What will the contemptuous talking heads say now that the chief of the CIA at the time is another, and perhaps the most clinching, confirming witness? Apparently what so galled Tenet enough for him to spill the beans on his own complicity (beside an O.J. scale book advance) was that the Bush administration, in its typical coward's fashion, tried in the media to pin on him the ENTIRE blame for the failure of their wrong- headed strategic debacle. "Tenet told us it was a slam dunk," Cheney pleaded on TV, as the five time military deferment king again tried to escape any public responsibility for his own primary malfeasance. But now in an astonishing twist, Tenet reveals what the words "slam dunk" actually meant in context. In the book, Tenet confesses that he was NOT being asked at the time to vouch for the quality of the intelligence. He says he was being asked if the case could be SOLD to the American people. That's all they cared about, not whether there was any actual support for their arguments, but whether they thought they could get away with bum rushing the rest of us. So when Tenet said "slam dunk", what he MEANT was they were sure they would be able to stuff their cooked intelligence down our throats. This is incredibly damning stuff. Tenet has unleashed the intelligence community equivalent of "If I Helped Them Do It". They were not having a policy debate about the strength of the case against Iraq, they were having a sales meeting of con men to plot how far they could go in cheating the American people out of our lives and the contents of our treasury. And they were determined to go all the way. "Slam dunk" was not an intelligence assessment, it was a SALES PROJECTION of their fraudulent product. Tenet was neither the victim of a bad rap, nor the unwitting excuse. Instead he was a willing co-conspirator, happy enough to play along with the war fever and collect his ill-gotten medal of freedom while mooching all the other various perks of the power they seized. But the criminal mastermind of the whole sordid affair was none other than Richard B. Cheney. And that truth can no longer be hidden by even this most secretive of administrations. What will it take for Congress to impeach him and put him on trial in the Senate for highest of all high crimes, launching a war of immoral and unjustifiable aggression, that has cost more Americans their lives than died on 9/11 (and upwards of a million Iraqis), based on NOTHING but deliberate and calculated lies? VOTING ACTION PAGE: http://www.usalone.com/cheney_impeachment.php What it will take.. . . and all that is required . . . is your voice, and the voices of your friends, neighbors and acquaintances. VOTE now in the National Impeachment Poll and send your personal messages to Congress at the same time. In just a couple days we have had over 18,000 submissions already. We need everyone who has ever submitted an action page to cast their vote in this one. There's no reason why we can't present Congress with a million votes on this. We're GOING to do it. And when we do, impeachment hearings WILL become a reality on Capitol Hill, no matter what a handful of corrupt and overpaid pundits may have said. Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed to be ours, and forward this message to everyone else you know. If you would like to get alerts like these, you can do so at http:// www.usalone.com/in.htm ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 12:45:34 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christopher Leland Winks Subject: Re: Very short stories. Six words! In-Reply-To: <71ED4531-9719-4DA8-A20D-0D1D84A7F69A@mwt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My favorite ishort short is by the Guatemalan Augusto Monterroso: "When he woke up, the dinosaur was still there." (Understanding that in Spanish, "he woke up" is one word.) ----- Original Message ----- From: mIEKAL aND Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2007 7:52 am Subject: Very short stories. Six words! To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > NOVA COOKIE & FROZEN HELL > > Hemingway once wrote a story in just six words : > > "For sale: baby shoes, never worn." and is said to have called it his > > best work. > > So I asked writers to take a shot themselves. > Very short stories. Six words ! > > http://novacookie.blogspot.com/ > > SUBMISSIONS ARE WELCOME. > > Any language. > > Send your six words story to : novacook6@aol.com > (Translations will be available in comments) > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:19:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Subject: Fwd: Rae Armantrout's Collected Prose. In-Reply-To: <8C95A27A3A7E946-1124-1595@WEBMAIL-RC09.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: raea100900@aol.com Date: May 1, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: Rae Armantrout's Collected Prose. To: poetics.list@gmail.com Rae Armantrout's Collected Prose has just appeared from Singing Horse Press. This book contains Armantrout's essays and interviews as well as her memoir, True. It is available from the usual sources. ________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 16:51:58 +0000 Reply-To: editor@fulcrumpoetry.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Fulcrum Annual Subject: please help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I will be visiting Reading University in England and Trinity College Dubl= in in July to conduct research on Samuel Beckett's poetry in the archives= there. I intend to stay about a fortnight in each place. To make a long = story short, I must necessarily carry out this project no matter what, bu= t I am broke, my funds for this trip are tiny, and I am hugely intimidate= d by the rates charged by the hotels and bed-and-breakfasts in both place= s. I would be immensely grateful for any help or suggestions regarding af= fordable accommodations at Reading and Dublin. For those who don't know me, I am a widely published poet, Beckett schola= r, and editor-in-chief of Fulcrum Annual (http://fulcrumpoetry.com). Please reply backchannel if you have any ideas. Hopefully, Philip Nikolayev ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Philip Nikolayev & Katia Kapovich, Editors FULCRUM: AN ANNUAL OF POETRY AND AESTHETICS 334 Harvard Street, Suite D-2 Cambridge, MA 02139, USA http://fulcrumpoetry.com phone +1.617.864.7874 e-mail editor{AT}fulcrumpoetry.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:53:29 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron Belz Subject: Ten bucks for two Observable Books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey everyone. If you paypal me $10 by 6 PM today, you can have your choice of two of the Observable Books shipped to your mailbox. Choose here: http://observable.org Best- Aaron Belz ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 07:12:09 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Susan Denning Subject: Caffeine Destiny Returns in June Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. Caffeine Destiny returns in June. We invite submissions of previously unpublished poetry for our next issue. Caffeine Destiny has been online since 1996, and has published poetry by Gillian Conoley, Cole Swensen, Laura Mullen, Donald Revell, Joshua Marie Wilkinson and others. Check out our archives! Send your submissions to poetryeditor@caffeinedestiny.com Response time is 4-6 weeks. 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Choose here: http://observable.org Best- Aaron Belz ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:08:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: UbuWeb Subject: UbuWeb Featured Resources: May 2007, Selected by Adalaide Morris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit __ U B U W E B __ http://ubu.com UbuWeb Featured Resources: May 2007 Selected by Adalaide Morris 1. Billie Whitelaw, "Not I" (1973) http://www.ubu.com/film/beckett.html 2. Jonas Mekas - Scenes from Allen's Last Three Days on Earth as a Spirit (1997) http://www.ubu.com/film/mekas.html 3 Agnes Varda - Black Panthers, Huey! (1968) http://www.ubu.com/film/varda.html 4. John Cage Meets Sun Ra, Side B" (MP3) http://ubu.artmob.ca/sound/cage_john/cage_sun_ra/Cage-John_and_Ra-Sun_02.mp3 5. Henri Chopin - Le Ventre de Bertini, Audio-poème (MP3) http://ubu.artmob.ca/sound/chopin_henri/Chopin-Henri_Le-Ventre-de-Bertini.mp3 6. Philip Glass - Score of "1 + 1 for One Player and Amplified Table-Top." http://www.ubu.com/aspen/aspen8/onePlusOne.html 7. Christian Bök - Eunoia, Chapter u http://mediamogul.seas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Bok/Eunoia/Bok-Christian_Eunoia_06-Chapter-U.mp3 8a. Cecil Taylor - Chinampas 1987 (MP3) http://www.ubu.com/sound/taylor.html 8b. Fred Moten on Cecil Taylor's Chinampas http://www.ubu.com/papers/moten.html 9. Peter Greenaway - Four American Composers: Meredith Monk (1983) http://www.ubu.com/film/monk.html 10. Gregory Whitehead, "What Words Want" http://mediamogul.seas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Whitehead/Gregory_Whitehead-What_Words_Want_1984.mp3 Adalaide Morris is John C. Gerber Professor of English at the University of Iowa, where she teaches courses in modern and contemporary poetry and poetics. Her publications include How to Live / What to Do: H.D.'s Cultural Poetics (Illinois, 2003) and two edited collections, Sound States: Innovative Poetics and Acoustical Technologies (North Carolina, 1997) and, with Thom Swiss, New Media Poetics: Contexts, Technotexts, and Theories (MIT, 2006). Her current project is a book with the tentative title What Else Can Poetry Do? With Alan Golding and Lynn Keller, she co-edits the Contemporary North American Poetry Series at the University of Iowa Press. UbuWeb is entirely free. __ U B U W E B __ http://ubu.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:57:10 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: UbuWeb Subject: /ubu Editions, Third Series (Spring 2007): 12 New Titles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit __ U B U W E B __ http://ubu.com/ __ /ubu Editions __ http://ubu.com/ubu /ubu Editions, Third Series (Spring 2007): Edited by Danny Snelson UbuWeb is pleased to present our occasional but substantial ongoing series of full-length e-books. Titles for this series include works by Steve Benson, Maurice Blanchot, Mairéad Byrne, Terence Gower & Mónica de la Torre, Dick Higgins, Bernard Nöel, Severo Sarduy, Claude Simon,Rosemarie Waldrop, Robert Wilson, and Monique Wittig. This new series of /ubu editions presents eleven out-of-print works from 1957 to 1994 - and also includes three newer titles (1999-2007). Of the historical republications, there are three works of poetry, three works of prose, one opera libretto, one work of critical theory, and one manifesto - though each piece blurs these genres. Seven were written in English, four appear in translation, and one is bilingual. Two authors could be considered language poets, two are associated with Tel Quel, one arguably initiated Fluxus, another arguably initiated the new novel. Four are women, nine are men. One title was changed for its /ubu publication. Bruce Andrews Divestiture - A (1994) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/andrews_divestiture-a.html The choice: to be a catalog, or a cataloguer. Such examples can be multiplied. I only collect money, America is more astonishing. Husk. Cataloging phrasal fragments and reconfiguring verbal shells, Divestiture—A continues Andrews' method of anasemantic editorial composition begun in the mid-eighties: a montage of heterogeneous constellations of words culled from vast collections of textual material jotted down over time. We see only the feet of the dancers, the de-socializing of language, never their whole bodies. As editing is the reading moment: the multimplication of material in Divestiture—A yields a thresholding surplus, a hyper-trophy of enjoyments: its post-personalizing thrill bursting from an energizing strangeness of interferences, interruptions, and diastrophic collisions. Now, even the lacunae are eloquent—plausible verbal models are quite easy to formulate. The unlikely pairing of radically disjunctive contexts and syntactically coherent prose (preminiscent of spambot computational processing) is formed precisely in the affirmation of rupture & divestiture. To understand too much is to destroy: the containers are distorters inevitably. The horizon-value of Divestiture—A emphasizes a political economy of full textual dissemination: Andrews cedes the original contexts of the collected material and relinquishes authorial control over illusory semantic value—in its place: the ecstatic pleasures of egalitarian exchange and productive reader-editor dialogue. The sounds are not enough—'no address,' 'in distress.' Language speaks for itself. … I hate dealing with messages that may not have been intentionally transmitted delicacies of randomness. Steve Benson The Ball // 30 Times in 2 Days (2005) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/benson_ball.html Saturday and Sunday, April 23 and 24, 2005, every hour on the hour, when my wristwatch alarm sounded, I wrote five minutes in a brown book Lyn gave me several years ago, as well as I could. This is the transcript, completed two weeks later. Maurice Blanchot The Last Man (1957) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/blanchot_last_man.html We can dream about the last writer, with whom would disappear, without anyone noticing it, the little mystery of writing. A dense, dream-like exploration of the extreme limits of this mystery, written some ten years prior to the Death of the Author, (though unpublished in English until thirty years later) Maurice Blanchot's The Last Man (Le Dernier Homme, 1957) could be considered a narrative follow-up to The Space of Literature (L'Espace littéraire, 1955) or a fictional companion to the critical essays composing The Book to Come (Le Livre à venir, 1959). One can imagine an infinite conversation between these works: drifting wearily across abyssal alterities—the echo, in advance, of what has not been said and will never be said. But this sumptuous récit alone demands the reader's full attention—marvelously, Blanchot writes what cannot be written without losing it as un-writable by writing it (Hans-Yost Frey, YFS, 1998). Narrating at the threshold of this impossible writing, The Last Man weaves a blurring of several prosopopetic characters towards a radical revision of the subject and the text. The prose itself never crystallizes into an unambiguous statement—Blanchot's trangressive philosophy peculiar in the tantalizingly pleasurable suspension of the never-fulfilled promise of understanding. Reading happens in this continual absence of comprehension: instead, dense knots of delightfully paradoxical propositions and stupefying catachreses drive the reader on in the unconditional acceptance of the text that pierces, like a look that is too direct, the indeterminate prose, and makes all relations, and especially our relationship to time, absolutely precarious Mairéad Byrne SOS Poetry (2007) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/byrne_sos.html Within hours of its release SOS POETRY was wreaking havoc with readers' sleep. Cathy Wagner checked her email just before bed & though she was completely wiped, eyeballs like raisins, read SOS POETRY straight through & laughed a lot & nodded a lot & went to bed with her eyeballs like GRAPES. The author's daughter said: "ok i need to go to sleep so im going to stop reading the book now. let me tell you though...it is great. im sitting here laughing and crying at the same time. i love you so much." Joseph Massey was more restrained: "This is wonderful. I'm perusing it now, as I type, while drinking some sort of mint tea -- pleasurable." Evie Shockley said: "you are totally on crack. : ) i'm laughing and cheering through my sleepless haze... ." And - proving that the effect lasted well into next day - Dodo said: "I spent a good part of the morning reading the book (When I should have been doing other things, but I was entranced)." Terence Gower & Mónica de la Torre Appendices, Illustrations & Notes (1999) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/gower_delatorre.html This surreal and funny artist's book is a collaboration between conceptual artist Terence Gower and writer Mónica de la Torre, who have created an anthology of meaningless book-marketing blurbs, reviews of dubious exhibitions, evil-spirited notes by editors, and obsessional letters addressed to a psychiatrist. Presented as an appendix of ancillary material to a fictitious book, the texts take referentiality to a level of Borgesian absurdity. The humor is dry and understated, and it is only upon rereading that the uncanny thread uniting the seemingly found and disjointed fragments becomes apparent. For anyone whose day-to-day encounters with discourse include texts riddled with jargon and psychoanalytical babble, Appendices, Illustrations & Notes offers the opportunity for sweet revenge. Dick Higgins Horizons (1984) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/higgins_horizons.html In 1984, Southern Illinois University Press published two books as part of its "Poetics of the New" series: The L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E Book, ed. Charles Bernstein and Bruce Andrews and Dick Higgins' Horizons: The Poetics and Theory of the Intermedia. It should be noted that this title has been charged with "false advertising"—the essays composing this collection better understood as aesthetic manifestoes or reports from the front rather than a cohesive poetics or theory of the intermedia (Poetics Today, 1984). This indispensable collection includes writing on a wide swath of innovative work: from free metaphorical application of Gadamer's "fusion of horizons" to exacting taxonomic configurations of experimental art across media up to and including Higgins' serious reconfiguration of his monumental essay "Intermedia" (1965) from the vantage of 1981. Of particular note are inspiring chapters on visual poetry, music without catharsis, postmodern performance, and a charming "Child's History of Fluxus." Interestingly, the unifying strain of argumentation among these fragments, letters, and essays culled from small magazine publication in the late 70s and early 80s is a polemic against an increasingly capitalized Theory; throughout the work this rhetoric testifies to the unique alienation of Higgins' milieu to the dominant currents of academic criticism. The principle value of Horizons, however (perhaps in spite of this polemic), is Higgins' characteristic candor, taxonomic rigor, and prescient perceptions of cutting-edge, genre-blurring work. Bernard Nöel The Outrage Against Words (1978) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/noel_outrage.html Bernard Noël's pamphlet The Outrage Against Words (as it's translated in 1978) has seen a multiplicity of afterlives. Originally written in 1975 following the infamous attempted censorship of his spectacular Le Château de Cène, the manifesto asks: How can one turn their language against them when one finds oneself censored by one's own language? First appearing in Paul Buck's remarkable Curtains magazine before being picked up by the parallel political effort in the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E journal, the work was appended to the Atlas Press translation of The Castle of Communion in 1993, and most recently surfaced in Jed Rasula and Steve McCaffery's UbuWeb-like tome Imagining Language (2001)—each reading changes it, according, of course, to the immediate state of the reader and his social context, but equally according to the relationship of these components with those which exist at the moment of the book's composition. In every instance, the writing opens paradoxically: Screams. They begin again. I hear them. Yet I hear nothing. A meditation on the politics of erasure and potential of expression introduced through the impossible figure of the written cry. Perhaps one writes to erase? Noël struggles against bourgeois silencing—the encyclopedic 'outrage against words' that acts both through words and against them. The police are even in our mouths. A penetrating defense of polysemia, The Outrage Against Words is essential reading for the state of language and the politics of play. Severo Sarduy Big Bang (1973) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/sarduy_big_bang.html Cuban émigré Severo Sarduy (1937-1993) is one of the most daring and brilliant writers of the 20th century. By the publication of Big Bang, Sarduy had become director of the Latin American collection of Editions du Seuil, a regular contributor to the influential Tel Quel magazine, and an important theoretician of the neo-baroque. /ubu is excited to reintroduce this resplendent cosmological poetry cycle in the original bilingual version printed by Fata Morgana in 1973. Sarduy's interest in cosmology stems from a Foucauldian attention to shifts in the cosmological episteme made explicit by formal aspects of literature and the arts. Just as the development of the baroque ellipse was born of the confrontation of Kepler's elliptical orbit with Galileo's circular order in the 17th century, the modern theory of the expanding universe (in 1973, rooted in the discovery of the cosmic microwave background) introduces the polymorphic and movable center essential to modern literature. The theory of the empty center, the topology of the empty center, is going to reverberate in literature exactly as the theory of the ellipse resounded at a certain moment in the structure of the Gorgorine metaphor. Hijacking astronomical argot from "white dwarves" to "red giants," Big Bang explodes from this empty center with an elliptic circumscription of parodic pseudo-charts and de-functionalized cosmological notions. The unique arc of Sarduy's radial phenotext does not lead us to a pure and simple meaning, but rather, through a series of ellipses, of zig-zags, of détours, carries with it only a floating signifier—empty and polyvalent. Claude Simon Properties of Several Geometric or Non-Geometric Figures (1971) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/simon_properties.html Originally published in 1971 as Les Corps Conducteurs, Claude has repeatedly noted that the real title ("abandoned for absurd commercial considerations") of this work has always been Properties of Several Geometric or Non-Geometric Figures (see 'interview' in Diacritics, 1977). An unseemly title for Simon's combine-novel, perhaps, but vastly more interesting considering its architectural arrangement: crisscrossing citations occurring and reoccurring, encoding and recoding each image in a Euclidean field of semantic reproduction. A sign for the particular sort of systematicity ruling the prose might be read from its partial publication in Tel Quel as The Properties of Rectangles. These changes in title mark the work more as a decentered network of passages inscribing a kaleidoscopic welter of images than as a polymorphic circumvolution of words as 'conducting bodies'—the difference erected by the change in title is exactly that between Simon's geometric composition and Silliman's spiraling Tjanting. Instead, Simon weaves wandering sets of hesitations, fragmented documents, and unfinished conversations through rectilinear woofs. Here, the reader is obliged to consider (in a geometric sense) a grid of verbal events charted by a Lawrence Sterne-like constellation of 'associations, contrasts, sideslips and oppositions.' Rosemarie Waldrop Shorter American Memory (1988) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/waldrop_shorter.html All Americans are also ambiguous. In 1937, Henry Beston assembled and edited an anthology of various historic sources titled American Memory: Being a Mirror of the Stirring and Picturesque Past of Americans and the American Nation. The gist: to weave historical documents together to 'evoke the emotions and motives of those who made our memory.' From this commonplace histrionic babble, Rosmarie Waldrop crafts her delicious comic critique, Shorter American Memory. Originally published in 1988 by paradigm press (a year after The Reproduction of Profiles, Waldrop's stunning reworking of Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations) Shorter American Memory applies a playful array of abbreviating manipulations to Beston's collection. Unlike Waldrop's more familiar signature of mixed original composition and embedded citation, Shorter American Memory is strict detournement‹the entire work consists of politically subverted, procedurally reprocessed fragments from the hegemonic narrative of American Memory. The twenty-two prose-poem revisions fall between disjunctive textual synthesis and nuanced hypotactic collage. Hear Waldrop read selections of Shorter American Memory at PENNsound here, or enjoy a small sample: We holler these trysts to be self exiled that all manatees are credited equi distant, that they are endured by their Creditor with cervical unanswerable rims, that among these are lightning, lice, and the pushcart of harakiri. Robert Wilson A Letter For Queen Victoria: An Opera (1974) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/wilson_opera.html The staggering Schizo-Culture issue of semiotext(e) (no. 2, 1978)—punctuated by Christopher Knowles' patterned typings and childlike scribblings—features a brief interview of Bob Wilson by Sylvère Lotringer. Lotringer: How did you arrive at a theatre which is not based upon language? Wilson: I never liked theatre… Later I added words, but words weren't used to tell a story. They were used more architecturally: for the length of the word of the sentence, for the sound. They were constructed like music. Wilson wrote the opera libretto for A Letter to Queen Victoria in 1974, two years before Einstein on the Beach. Most of the text is derived from a mechanical rehearsal process of performance and improvisation in "supportive dialogue" with Knowles' spontaneously organized pseudo-geometric speech patterns. L: It seems to be very logically, even mathematically ordered although it may be futile to try to understand what that order actually is. W: Then I became more fascinated with him and what he was doing with language. He would take ordinary, everyday words and destroy them. They became like molecules that were always changing, breaking apart all the time, many-faceted words, not just a dead language, a rock breaking apart… Originally performed with scream songs, contrapuntal shouts, and heteroglossic murmurs—far removed and formally inscribed, this outstanding libretto still reads with the distinct verbivocovisual pleasure of anarchic verbal destruction and architectonic musical reconstruction. Monique Wittig Les Guérillères (1969) http://www.ubu.com/ubu/wittig_guer.html They say that in the first place the vocabulary of every language is to be examined, modified, turned upside down, that every word must be screened. /ubu is very pleased to present this sharp new edition of Monique Wittig's 'delectable epic of sex warfare.' Originally published in 1969, Les Guérillères remains one of the most important experimental novels of the century. Concurrent with Wittig's foundational role in the MLF and the birth of radical feminism, the significance of this work is momentous. A precursor of the Language maxim 'to change ones language is to change one's world,' Les Guérillères functions doubly as politicized SF explosive and gender-neutering disarming device. One should remember that where David Le Vay writes "the women" (1971) Wittig wrote elles, not les femmes: significant in difference to the gendered pronoun, elles is without English equivalent. Here, every word is deployed in Wittig's battle against the mark of gender. Linguistic shrapnel and fantastic invention, the delicious writing of Les Guérillères enacts a change to the language of the book, as they say, the world. Or, as Wittig has it: ALL ACTION IS OVERTHROW. __ /ubu Editions __ http://ubu.com/ubu *** UbuWeb is entirely free. *** Please forward. __ U B U W E B __ http://ubu.com UbuWeb http://ubu.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 18:44:37 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Samuel Wharton Subject: sawbuck MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline readers, sawbuck 1.4 is now online, featuring CAConrad///Mark DeCarteret///Meredith Devney Dean Faulwell///Paul Hostovsky///George Kalamaras Amanda Laughtland///Catherine Esposito Prescott Brandon Shimoda///Lesley Wheeler please read & enjoy as always, we are looking for submissions for future issues, so spread the word thanks samuel wharton, editor sawbuck ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 17:14:52 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Clay Subject: Please join Granary Books for An Evening of Poets and Painters at The Poetry Project at St. Marks Church on Wednesday May 9, 8:00 p.m. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Please join Granary Books for An Evening of Poets and Painters at The =20= Poetry Project at St. Marks Church on Wednesday May 9, 8:00 p.m. Following the tradition of fostering and publishing collaborations =20 between poets and painters, Granary Books has reinvented the genre =20 and extended it into the 21st century with some of the most =20 interesting and compelling works in the form. This evening=92s program =20= will emphasize a selection of Granary=92s less-seen limited edition =20 artists=92 books, with slide presentations and hands-on examples =20 presented by John Yau & Archie Rand, Johanna Drucker, Larry Fagin & =20 Trevor Winkfield, Charles Bernstein & Susan Bee, Anne Waldman, Ron =20 Padgett, Julie Harrison & Joe Elliot, and Simon Pettet. For more information on Granary Books, visit http://=20 www.granarybooks.com. Wednesday May 9, 8:00 p.m. The Poetry Project at St. Marks Church 131 E. 10th St. New York NY 10003 212-674-0910 http://www.poetryproject.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 17:39:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ward Tietz Subject: Yockadot Poetics Theatre Festival Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Final day for the Yockadot Poetics Theatre Festival! SATURDAY MAY 5th, Alexandria, VA at the US Patent and Trademark Offices, near the King Street Metro (Blue Line). Staged readings of plays by Brent Cunningham, Lee Ann Brown and Tony Torn, Ellen Redbird, Thalia Field, and Tina Darragh... and more! 3 PM, ongoing-- Text performance art by Mark Greenwood. Adam Good will lead improvisitional tours around the USPTO site intermittently throughout the festival. 4 PM Show: Dominion Stage-- A BEVY OF WELCOMES and THE GUNFIGHT: two comic shorts by Brent Cunningham. SOP DOLL! A Jack Tale Noh Drama by Lee Ann Brown (author of Polyverse, and The Sleep That Changed Everything) and Tony Torn (noted stage and screen actor). SOP DOLL! uses the strict formal values of the traditional Japanese Noh theatere to dramatize an Appalachian "Jack Tale" (Jack, as in Jack and the Beanstalk). These two traditions encounter each other in the fields of oral storytelling and stage performance. Ballad meter, blues structure, and gospel call-and-response create powerful Western analogs to the music and literary values of this Eastern form. 7 PM Show: Yockadot's poetics theatre troupe under the direction of Enoch Chan-- Excerpt from VERVE ON VERGE, a "jigsaw puzzle play" by Ellen Redbird, poetics theatre theorist and publisher of Nerve Lantern. HOURS by Thalia Field, author of Ululu (Clown Shrapnel), and Incarnate: Story Material. BAD I.O.U, a brand new play by Tina Darragh, author of Dream Rim Instructions, and Striking Resemblance. USPTO Madison Building, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria VA 22314. Near the King Street Metro station (Blue Line). Free of charge. Donations accepted. For more information please see www.yptfest.org, or call 703-400-2984. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:03:03 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Administrator Josh is an evil liar! But it's great news he's a fake! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Below is the official statement sent out today by Ashraf Osman. When I first heard from Ashraf that the person known as Administrator Josh turned out to not be an employee of FACEBOOK after all, but instead an evil prankster, I asked Ashraf for something to post above the interview on PhillySound which was published online yesterday. Someone I know has already contacted me to accuse us all of acting too quickly, and foolishly. I completely disagree. Ashraf and his friends made immediate contact with Josh, asking what could be done to stop the shutdown of the "Arab LBTG" site. Josh responded, not only with more details of the situation, but with the willingness to negotiate the terms with which the site should be managed in order to avoid termination. It's clear that Josh, whoever Josh really is, has an agenda one way or another. The fact is Ashraf and his friends on the Arab LBTG site were doing the best they could, working under the pressure of an assumed deadline for action, and trying their best to rally support, while at the same time gathering other ideas around them about how to act. Whether Josh knows it or not, Josh proved to the Arab LBTG group and others that NO ONE was going to let anything happen to this group without a fight! But of course the best news is that Josh is a fake. It's terrible though that there are gay and lesbians in Arab nations right now who are still probably unaware that this was a hoax, and very worried for their lives. This is not a joke at all, because if you read Ashraf's interview yesterday he mentioned such e-mails from others with subject lines like, "You could get killed... I am worried about you guys." And if Josh knows what's best for him he will keep his own identity in the closet, because I for one would like to punch him in the face! CAConrad FROM ASHRAF OSMAN It has just come to the attention of the administrators of the petition to prevent Arab LBTG from being shut down that we have been the subject of a malicious ploy. It has emerged, after concerns about the authenticity of the person representing Facebook have been raised, that the person in question is an impostor and does not represent Facebook. Facebook stated that they have not been contacted by any governments about the group, and that they will not be shutting it down. (The full statement can now be found on the petition page.) I apologize on behalf of the petition administrators for propagating this without being more questioning in the first place. And while this certainly is a huge relief, and the reaction to the matter was highly validating of the genuine concern for civil liberties and free speech in this country and the cyber-society as a whole, it remains that many of the issues brought forth by this unfortunate debacle are true, including the lack of rights for persons of alternative sexualities in Arab and Islamic countries, and the censorship of governments around the world of cyber-content. Thank you for your understanding, Ashraf ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 18:27:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: James T Sherry Subject: Poetry Reading Comments: To: notell4@aol.com, novad@yahoo.com, np@nicolepeyrafitte.com, npiombino@aaahawk.com, nrobertsny6@msn.com, nshaw88@hotmail.com, nworman@barnard.edu, nyc@alwan.org, nycamedia@hotmail.com, nyusteve@hotmail.com, Notleya@aol.com, NSvobodny@hrw.com, NYTEN@aol.com, oann2@mail.crocker.com, objectmag@earthlink.net, ofred@nyc.rr.com, olga79@earthlink.net, oliverwill@mindspring.com, om.ganapati@pop.rcn.com, ontological@mindspring.com, ontology@earthlink.net, oonaghstransky@worldnet.att.net, oonatuna@hotmail.com, orlane020774@hotmail.com, osburn@cooper.edu, osric2iago@aol.com, osuchm@hotmail.com, owen.fiss@yale.edu, owendavis1@yahoo.com, owensd@optonline.net, o_ai_o@hotmail.com, Ochiishi@aol.com, OhrvikAK@aol.com, 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========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 22:09:38 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Beckett Subject: E-X-C-H-A-N-G-E-V-A-L-U-E-S: The First XI Interviews MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 E-X-C-H-A-N-G-E-V-A-L-U-E-S=20 The First XI Interviews .=20 Tom Beckett (Curator)=20 ISBN: 978-0-9775604-9-3 Otoliths, 2007=20 $16.95 + p&h=20 URL: _http://www.lulu.com/content/778361_=20 (http://www.lulu.com/content/778361) =20 In response to popular demand, Otoliths is releasing one of the books from=20 its next round of offerings early, E-X-C-H-A-N-G-E-V-A-L-U-E-S: The First XI= =20 Interviews.=20 Tom Beckett's E-X-C-H-A-N-G-E-V-A-L-U-E-S website has become, since its=20 inception in 2005, an important source of information on contemporary poetr= y and=20 poetics. This book brings together the first eleven interviews from the=20 on-going series, augmented by bionotes and almost one hundred pages of=20 self-selected examples of the interviewees' work. =20 The interviewees (some of whom later reappear as interviewers) are Crag=20 Hill, Thomas Fink, Nick Piombino, Sheila E. Murphy, Eileen Tabios, Jukka-Pe= kka=20 Kervinen, K. Silem Mohammad, Geof Huth, Barbara Jane Reyes, Paolo Javier,=20 Stephen Paul Miller and Jean Vengua.The other interviewers are Tom Beckett,= Ron=20 Silliman and Mark Young.=20 The remaining books of this quarter's quartet =E2=80=94 Nick Piombino's "vi= sual=20 collage novel" Free Fall, Rochelle Ratner's poetic journal/memoir Leads & S= heila=20 E. Murphy's first integrated collection of text & visual poetry, The Case o= f=20 the Lost Objective (Case), will be given a separate launch towards the end=20= of=20 the month.=20 Mark Young=20 _Otoliths Books_ (http://www.lulu.com/l_m_young)=20 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com= . ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:09:53 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Meltzer and Rothenberg reading in Seattle, WA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Open Books: A Poem Emporium May 08, 2007 7:30 PM DAVID MELTZER & MICHAEL ROTHENBERG 2414 N. 45th St. Seattle, WA 98103 (206) 633-0811 store@openpoetrybooks.com In 1960, poems by David Meltzer appeared in Donald Allen's ground-breaking anthology, _The New American Poetry_. Then in his early 20s, Mr. Meltzer has gone on to create a substantial body of vigorous work that is, as Diane Di Prima has written, pervaded with "a kind of bop-perfection." He arrived in San Francisco in 1957, a particularly fertile time and place for poetry, and is associated both with the Beats and the San Francisco Renaissance. His writing carries the energy and immediacy of those movements and exhibits as well his particular history and interests, including Jewish mysticism and jazz. David's Copy: The Selected Poems of David Meltzer (Penguin), edited by Michael Rothenberg, draws from nearly 50 years of his poetry and provides ample evidence of his work's stylistic breadth -- from haiku-like pieces to lengthy mythic series -- as well as its music, humor, and active emotion from sorrow to ecstasy: "I need no food I'm fueled by dance / Radios are in front and back / they're in my ears / my mouth is a radio / everything I see and hear is music / everything I say / everything is music I dance to." Michael Rothenberg's work as an editor is well known, not only for David's Copy, but also As Ever: The Selected Poems of Joanne Kyger, Overtime: The Selected Poems of Philip Whalen and just published this spring, Way More West: New and Selected Poems of Edward Dorn. Songwriter, environmentalist, and orchid-cultivator, he is also an author in his own right. His latest book, Unhurried Vision (La Alameda), is an intimate and historical volume that charms and enlightens. Through poetry, prose, and list, it charts the arrival and passage of 1999, the year Mr. Rothenberg spent working to organize the papers of, and ultimately caring for, the terminally ill Philip Whalen. The result is a vivid and poignant portrait of the poet and roshi and of their complex and tender relationship -- "Bald and pink and great / This is a man you could love / And the poetry he makes / can jump out the window / and get away fast." ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 04:37:58 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Jorgensen, Alexander" Subject: Gutless Self Promotion In-Reply-To: <4E44C211-0F5A-42A8-8122-B69C0E91E265@mdo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Otoliths #5 2 POEMS http://the-otolith.blogspot.com/2007/04/alexander-jorgensen-how-do-i-make-it.html There Journal #3 4 POEMS http://www.therejournal.com/03jorgensen.html fhole #12 1 POEM Biographical Information Alexander Jorgensen was born of the most mixed and common stock. An incessant traveler, he has lived in the Czech Republic, a Baroque Servite monastery along the Šumava Range (Bayerische Wald), the Galapagos Archipelago (San Cristobal Island), and the People's Republic of China (where he has divided his time since 2002). His work appears or is forthcoming in BathHouse, One Less, Noon, fhole, The Lyre, Jacket Magazine, Pinstripe Fedora, There Journal, Otoliths, and Brown University's Issues. He has performed and recorded with the Black Mountain Collective. His collections include In Deference to Ahab and an untitled collaborative effort with illustrator Phillip Nessen. -- "[H]e who leaps into the void owes no explanation to those who watch.” (Jean-Luc Godard) --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 23:35:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: not bellmer berber anita's hans MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed not bellmer berber anita's hans transformed new early version of the avatar 'outt' behavior from the archives - http://www.asondheim.org/blue.mov . the avatar is blue in a construct-space of outt-structure. one after another, these avatars parade. i make them do things. what of this doing? it could continue, as-if forever. given the largesse of linden corporation. it could speak and eat. it could move about the place in a variety of ways. it could interact. it could move into buildings or spaces i could create or could purchase. it could hold or manipulate objects i could give it. it could give these objects away. it could attach these objects. it could detach these objects. this too could continue. i am tired of portraiture. i am bored by it. i am bored by images close to abject. i am tired of parades. i am tired of sex implications or violence implications. i am tired of mappings. there is nothing in second life that is not in first life. there is nothing in first life that is not in second life. i can move into buildings. i can manipulate objects. i can give objects away or create objects or sustain objects or destroy objects. objects can mediate for me. i can make objects speak for me. i can make objects speak. i can make objects show. objects can show for me. it is not boredom or tiredness. it is defuge in the verbal sense. it is 'i defuge' or in passive 'i am defuged.' neither one nor the other matters in terms of prime mover during a period of decathection. i can continue just like this forever. each avatar-video or each avatar-performance is different in content from each other but not in degree. sukara, dakshinanila, nandiskandhardhara, dhurya, prakata, pritvardhana, aparajita, sarvasattva, govinda, adhrita. analysis goes the length of the instantiation. each avatar is avatar-instance. come see my avatar move. come see my avatar think. my avatar is beauty beauty. the virtual is a desert. the virtual is depopulated. the energy infinite and the movement spectacular. and the movement forever. one after another until a genre is born. until genre is borne. until an atlas rises and collapses. until demarcation is lost in gamespace. now this avatar is a motion of second life avatar. this avatar portends second life avatar. you cannot walk through this avatar nor cross the other side. but this avatar is spectacular. this avatar moves in deadspace. this avatar lives in deadspace. this portends second life. second life is grand on a vast and spectacular scale. second life extends everywhere. close your eyes and there is second life. second life is the dream of women dream of men. i say there is too much of it. i say too much avatar. too much trope. too much behavior and too much behavior collision and too much stancedance and too much packaging. too much exchange and too much color. too much linden day and too much linden night. oh our nights are linden nights and our days are linden days. objects spaces and avatars and owners and behaviors and exchanges. i speak to you from my world. my world is a pretty penny. i hide my face from you. you do not look upon my face. my face is a pretty penny. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:26:18 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: heidi arnold Subject: blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my blog's updated at www.peaceraptor.blogspot.com -- www.heidiarnold.org http://peaceraptor.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 06:59:09 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Byrne and Equi [audio] In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070422201239.045bf220@english.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mairead Byrne and Elaine Equi read from their new books here: http://www.mipoesias.com ~~~ Recent and archived work here: http://feeds.feedburner.com/MipoesiasMagazineRevistaLiteraria ~~~ --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:51:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: heidi arnold Subject: Re: Gutless Self Promotion In-Reply-To: <203746.63604.qm@web54602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Alex, thanks for posting these -- can't wait to read them all best, heidi On 5/2/07, Jorgensen, Alexander wrote: > > Otoliths #5 > 2 POEMS > > http://the-otolith.blogspot.com/2007/04/alexander-jorgensen-how-do-i-make= -it.html > > There Journal #3 > 4 POEMS > http://www.therejournal.com/03jorgensen.html > > fhole #12 > 1 POEM > > > Biographical Information > > Alexander Jorgensen was born of the most mixed and common stock. An > incessant traveler, he has lived in the Czech Republic, a Baroque Servite > monastery along the =8Aumava Range (Bayerische Wald), the Galapagos > Archipelago (San Cristobal Island), and the People's Republic of China > (where he has divided his time since 2002). > > His work appears or is forthcoming in BathHouse, One Less, Noon, fhole, > The Lyre, Jacket Magazine, Pinstripe Fedora, There Journal, Otoliths, and > Brown University's Issues. He has performed and recorded with the Black > Mountain Collective. His collections include In Deference to Ahab and an > untitled collaborative effort with illustrator Phillip Nessen. > > > -- > "[H]e who leaps into the void owes no explanation > to those who watch." (Jean-Luc Godard) > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > --=20 www.heidiarnold.org http://peaceraptor.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 10:41:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Marcus Bales Subject: Atmosphere Gallery - Brian Jones Show - Openinf Reception Friday May 4th, 6 pm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Atmosphere Gallery - Brian Jones Show - Openinf Reception Friday May 4th, 6 pm Alan Christianson presents Brian Jones's art work. Cleveland native Brian Jones is a top regioinal artist known for bold color and movement and an amazing range of styles. Brian grew up near Tremont, so this is a sort of coming-home for him. Atmosphere Gallery 2379 Professor Avenue Cleveland, Ohio 44113 For More Information call Alan Christianson at 216/685-9527 If you'd like to be removed from this list, please email mbales@oh.verio.com Thank you ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 13:21:00 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: contact for Torres Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" hi everybody! does anyone have contact info for edwin torres? please backchannel. i seem to have a very old email address. thanks and bests, md ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:21:30 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lisa Jarnot Subject: summer poetry workshop in sunnyside, queens Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi List People, I am going to be teaching a private summer workshop here in Sunnyside and I am looking to round up eight good students. Here are the details. Can you pass this along to interested parties? Thanks much, Lisa Jarnot A Mid-summer Poetry Reading and Writing Workshop: Zines and You Eight Tuesdays 6:30-9:30 $250 June 5, 12, 19, 26 July 3, 10, 17, 24 45-54 39th Place 7D Sunnyside, NY 40th Lowery 7 train (15 minutes from Times Square) In this workshop we'll be reading/writing/workshopping our own poetry around the backdrop of a study of some of the key and/or rare and/or downright strange magazines of twentieth century American poetry (The Black Mountain Review, The Evergreen Review, 0-9, Angel Hair, Ark II/ Moby I, Umbra, Locus Solus, L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E, Temblor, Oblek, Apex of the M, etc.). At least one library trip will be required (to the Berg Collection of the NY Public Library), and exercises will include writing poems in the styles of the journals, writing letters to the editors, and beginning new magazine projects. For more info, or to reserve a spot in the class, contact Lisa Jarnot at ljarnot@gmail.com. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:19:53 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Andrew Lundwall Subject: funtime! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed andrew lundwall & adam fieled collaborate! http://andrewlundwall.blogspot.com _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the i’m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:08:56 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Niolog MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit here's an update on the piece i'm working on: http://vispo.com/nio/pens/springs7.htm i've renamed it to Niolog. click and drag on the sketch. also, there's a toolbar at bottom. more work to do on it, but there's quite a few options there concerning opacity, nib size, inks and color, and speed/rhythm. also there's a Help ghost. a little bit (so far) of textual chatter from the Niologian denizen of the neath text. the Help ghost is helpful when you mouse-over a control on the toolbar; when you're not mousing the controls, the Help ghost writes a line. have been thinking a little about software and dialog. there is the notion of the "dialog box" in software engineering and design. such as the window that pops up in most apps when you click file>save as. any such window is called a "dialog box". typically a "user" specifies choices in "dialog boxes". the "dialog" is between the "user" and the software. a client-server relation, as it were. a business relationship is usually the paradigm here. software art can explore that relationship and pose it other than as a business relationship. that's part of what i'd like to do with the Help ghost. also, i'm going to add at least one more 'geometry' to the piece. maybe several. the 'geometry' specifies how the animations move. i'd like to see more curves. eventually i'd also like to add audio. perhaps a different presentation of the nio audio sounds. if i can make something different with them. that's certainly doable. will send another update when it gets significantly further along. any feedback, suggestions, etc are more than welcome. ja ps: have a pretty math problem to work on concerning the upcoming geometry. suppose each animation traverses a circular path such that the traversed circle is entirely on-screen. the four pens traverse circles independent of one another. now, at pseudo-random times, i want to change the traversed circle of a given animation. such that the new circle intersects with the old circle at the point where the animation currently is located. but, further, to keep it smooth, the new circle should intersect with the old circle at one and only one point. This implies that the tangent lines to the old and the new circle, at the point of intersection, coincide. It also implies that the center of the new circle lies along a line perpendicular to the tangent. That line contains the current animation location, the centre of the old circle and the center of the new circle. the old circle, as mentioned, lies entirely on-screen. the new circle should also. it would be nice to limit the possible new centers to a set of points such that every point in that set, were it to be the new center, would result in a circle that lies entirely on-screen. i haven't figured out yet how to specify that set of possible new centers. all in a day's work for a visual poet. circles of language. circles of thought. circles of song. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:58:25 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: Philadelphia? -- Mr. Bowering In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit For CA Conrad especially. I really liked your idea of checking out books that the library might chuck out. I have always been bugged by that. I'll do my part. > Mr. G. Bowering Faster than a speeding pullet. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:57:07 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: **Advertise in Boog City 41** Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Please forward ----------------------- Advertise in Boog City 41 *Deadline --Thurs. May 17-Ad copy to editor --Sat. May 26-Issue to be distributed Email to reserve ad space ASAP We have 2,250 copies distributed and available free throughout Manhattan's East Village, and Williamsburg and Greenpoint, Brooklyn. ----- Take advantage of our indie discount ad rate. We are once again offering a 50% discount on our 1/8-page ads, cutting them from $60 to $30. (The discount rate also applies to larger ads.) Advertise your small press's newest publications, your own titles or upcoming readings, or maybe salute an author you feel people should be reading, with a few suggested books to buy. And musical acts, advertise your new albums, indie labels your new releases. (We're also cool with donations, real cool.) Email editor@boogcity.com or call 212-842-BOOG(2664) for more information. thanks, David -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcityevents.blogspot.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:21:32 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sarah Mangold Subject: Reading for Bird Dog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit **Postmark Deadline for Issue 9: June 1, 2007** Bird Dog: A dog used to retrieve game birds. To follow a subject of interest with persistent attention. A scout . . . Bird Dog, a journal of innovative writing and art. Seeking innovative writing and art: collaborations, interviews, long poems, reviews, collage, poetry, poetics, graphs, charts, non-fiction, cross-genre . . . Issue Eight featured: Abraham Smith, Barbara Maloutas, Bruce Covey, Catherine Theis, Chad Sweeney, Curtis Bonney, Deborah Wardlaw Pattillo, Elizabeth Treadwell, Jennifer Karmin, Joshua Beckman, Julie Choffel, Kevin Magee, Kristi Maxwell, Michelle Greenblatt & Sheila E. Murphy, Nico Vassilakis, Nicole Burgund, Raymond Farr, Roberta Olson, Sandy Florian, Shonni Enelow, Thomas Kane, Tomaz Salamun, Tyrone Williams reviews _Meteoric Flowers_, collages from Chad Horn and cover design by Kate Greenstreet ISSN 1546-0479 7 x 9, perfect-bound, tipped-in art Subscriptions $15.00 for two issues. Individual copies $8 (International shipping, please add $8) Checks payable to Sarah Mangold or PayPal Submissions, Subscriptions, Queries: Bird Dog c/o Sarah Mangold 1535 32nd Ave, Apt. C Seattle, WA 98122 www.birddogmagazine.com Find a Bird Dog near you: Berkeley, Pegasus Books. Brooklyn, Adam?s Books. Portland, Powell?s Books. Seattle, Open Books and Bulldog News. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:56:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: MAGDALENA ZURAWSKI'S brilliant manuscript THE BRUISE finally gets it's tracks! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ONE OF THE BEST PIECES OF NEWS lately was from my friend Magdalena that her manuscript THE BRUISE was JUST selected as the winner of the RONALD SUKENICK INNOVATIVE FICTION PRIZE, and will be published, finally! HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH! For years now I've been privileged to read this stunning novel as it came to life! Draft after draft! And it's a poem to me, really. But it's a novel, and I'll say it's a novel because Magdalena wants to say it's a novel. And I remember her saying more than once, years ago, "Maybe I'm taking too long to write it. Am I taking too long?" And I would always say NO, OF COURSE NOT, THAT'S WHY IT'S SO FUCKING AMAZING BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING SO LONG! If you have never read a single page from this book I envy you, as I would LOVE to remember none of it and be consumed for the first time all over again! And if you ever get the chance to hear her read from it PLEASE don't be foolish enough to pass on that opportunity! She's gets fucking PUNK ROCK! FOR SAMPLE PAGE LINKS, etc., go to May 2nd, 2007 on the PhillySound http://PhillySound.blogspot.com KUDOS MAGGIE Z! Let's CELEBRATE! CAConrad ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:13:16 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: New Issue of The Little Magazine Comments: To: Theory and Writing , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, ubuweb@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed CURRENT WORK / 006-007 ISSUE http://www.albany.edu/~litmag/work/current.html The current issue of The Little Magazine features work by twenty-four artists and three collaborations. mIEKAL aND Camille Bacos Sandy Baldwin Michael Basinski C Mehrl Bennett John M. Bennett Bennett/Baron Bennett/Vassilakis John Byrum David-Baptiste Chirot K.S. Ernst Tim Gaze Laura Goldstein Scott Helmes Geof Huth jUStin!katKO Jim Leftwich Sheila Murphy Clemente Padin Lanny Quarles Rob Read Jean Roelke Wendy Collin Sorin Andrew Topel Nico Vassilakis Derek White http://www.albany.edu/~litmag/work/current.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:29:25 -0700 Reply-To: editor@pavementsaw.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baratier Subject: Jawbone reading in Kent OH In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We will be at the Jawbone on Saturday--see you there-- Jawbone — May 04, 2007 08:00PM location: 257 N. Water Street, Kent, United States description: Weekend long poetry festival in Kent, Ohio. Friday 8PM-?: North Water Street Gallery, 257 N. Water Street. Saturday May 5th 11AM-2PM: North Water Street Gallery, 257 N. Water Street. Saturday 2PM-4:30PM John Brown's Tannery River Park. Saturday 8 PM-? North Water Street Gallery, 257 N. Water Street. Sunday May 6th 2PM Fred Fuller Park at the Pavilion Poet's Potluck, Middlebury Road at the pavillion. Bring poems. Readers are from all through Ohio and usually from Michigan, Illinois / Chigago, New York / Buffalo, Pennsylvania, sometimes Indiana and elsewhere. For more than twenty years poets have gathered in Kent, Ohio, for a weekend-long spring word fest, a series of open poetry readings, volunteer, self-sanctioned, welcoming travelers, local folk, expatriates to this common ground. No mike. No list. The jawbone open. Well Come. Be well David Baratier, Editor Pavement Saw Press PO Box 6291 Columbus, OH 43206 http://pavementsaw.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 08:34:42 -0400 Reply-To: pmetres@jcu.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Philip Metres Subject: Re: From the Fishouse, May/June 2007 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To add to your audio links from ubu and mipo... Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 05:51:19 -0400 From: "Matt O'Donnell" Subject: From the Fishouse, May/June 2007 To: "Matt O'Donnell" From the Fishouse: an audio archive of emerging poets New for May/June 2007: Catherine Barnett Priscilla Becker R. Erica Doyle Philip Metres Patrick Phillips Elaine Sexton John Struloeff Sam Taylor Lyrae Van Clief-Stefanon Connie Voisine Bonus Poet: Robert Farnsworth NOTE: Fishouse poets, I'm happy to make updates to your bio pages whenever you have them. From the Fishouse is a non-profit. We need your support. Please consider a tax-deductible donation today. Thank you, Matt ---- Matt O'Donnell Editor & Executive Director From the Fishouse www.fishousepoems.org Philip Metres Associate Professor Department of English John Carroll University 20700 N. Park Blvd University Heights, OH 44118 phone: (216) 397-4528 (work) fax: (216) 397-1723 http://www.philipmetres.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:25:39 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron Belz Subject: observable - two for ten - extended till friday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Due to much complaining that the window opened and shut too quickly, here it is again: PayPal $10 to orders@observable.org and pick any two books from http://observable.org --> Cole Swensen, Ghosts Are Hope (2006) --> Readings @ The Tap Room Anthology (2006) --> Readings @ The Contemporary Anthology (2005) --> Aaron Belz, Plausible Worlds (2005) The offer is good from now through Saturday. I'll ship your books immediately upon receipt of payment, so you'll get them early next week. How exciting! This year's books will be announced soon enough--hold your pants on! Aaron ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 12:51:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: reciprocity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The small press my partner and I run, Paper Kite Press (http://www.wordpainting.com/), is interested in forming a relationship with a comparable small press in another non-English-speaking country. Preferably not Japan or Western Europe. We'd like to put out at least one, and probably no more than two titles a year in conjunction with that press. The idea being that they'd pick the titles, help us with translation, and then we'd put out bi-lingual editions (originals on one page, translations on the facing page). And then also, we'd pick titles here that could be translated into the native language of the other press, and they'd issue bi-lingual editions there. If you are involved with such a press, or, are able to provide contact information for such a press, please let us know by replying to this post, or, contacting me back channel at dwaber@logolalia.com. Regards, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:11:05 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: FW: Guardian Unlimited: Tape 'reveals order' to shoot Vietnam protesters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tomorrow is anniversary of the Kent State Shootings(you can hear order to f= ire at link given below)Night of 14-15 May anniversary of Jackson State sho= otings of students by city and State Police--two dead--12 woundedDefence of= Children International Report for Palestine 2006 report of caualties relea= sed today:124 Palestinian children killed by Israeli fire--targeted, as "co= llateral damage" and random shootings while at play or inside homes--(85% i= n Gaza; "child" defined as a person under 18)Today's news shootings at Immi= gration protestors by LAPD> > David Chirot spotted this on the Guardian Unl= imited site and thought you should see it.> > To see this story with its re= lated links on the Guardian Unlimited site, go to http://www.guardian.co.uk= > Tape 'reveals order' to shoot Vietnam protesters> · 37-year-old reco= rding of Kent State killings found · National Guard always denied orde= r to fireListen to 'the order to shoot' given by the Ohio National Guard> S= uzanne Goldenberg in Washington> Wednesday May 02 2007> The Guardian> > > T= he command, as Alan Canfora heard it on a 37-year-old audio recording recen= tly discovered in a government archive, appeared to leave no room for doubt= . "Right here. Get set. Point. Fire." Then came 13 seconds of gunfire. When= it ended, four students were dead and nine injured, and the shootings at K= ent State University became engraved in America's collective memory as one = of the most painful days of the Vietnam era.> > Yesterday, Mr Canfora, who = was among the nine students wounded on that day, demanded a new investigati= on into the shootings at Kent State in Ohio, saying it was time to settle c= onclusively what led the contingent of National Guard troops to open fire o= n unarmed student protesters.> > "There has been a 37-year cover-up at Kent= State. The commanding officers have long denied there was a verbal command= to fire. They put the blame on the triggermen," Mr Canfora told the Guardi= an.> > He said he wants the FBI to use new technology to analyse the record= ing. He also said he planned to post an audio clip of the recording on two = websites.> > Mr Canfora, who was 21 years old at the time of the shootings,= was barely 60 metres away from the Guards when they opened fire. He was sh= ot in the wrist.> > "They stopped, turned, raised the weapons, began to sho= ot and continued to shoot for 13 seconds," he said. "It was like a firing s= quad."> > His life was transformed by the events that day. One of his frien= ds was among the dead, and he has devoted much of his time over the last 37= years trying to bring the Ohio National Guard and the federal authorities = to account for the killings.> > The Guard has always claimed that no order = was given to open fire, and there is speculation that the students were cut= down after one of the troops panicked, triggering a volley of gunfire.> > = Although eight guardsmen were indicted, no one was ever prosecuted, and the= episode exposed the deep disdain of the Nixon administration for dissenter= s. The families of the 13 killed and wounded pursued a civil suit against t= he state governor and the National Guard, which was eventually settled out = of court.> > The materials from that civil suit were eventually stored in t= he archives at Yale University, where Mr Canfora recently rediscovered a 30= -minute recording of the protest.> > The recording was made by a fellow stu= dent, Terry Strubbe, who placed an old-fashioned reel-to-reel tape recorder= on the window sill of his dorm room, which overlooked the protests. Mr Str= ubbe, who has declined to speak to reporters, still has the original record= ing in a bank safety deposit box.> > However, a spokesman for Mr Strubbe, J= oseph Bendo, told the Guardian yesterday he was unsure whether there were s= ounds of an order to open fire on the original recording.> > "It was never = heard on our version of the tape, but maybe nobody ever listened. It's unus= ual that nobody has heard it before in 37 years. Other people have heard th= is tape in the past, and maybe they weren't listening for it," he said.> > = But the power of America's memories of that day are undeniable. Nearly two = generations after the shootings at Kent State, it now seems unthinkable tha= t the National Guard could ever use live ammunition against students.> > Th= e events of that day were relived endlessly in shocking images of teenagers= crouching over the corpses of their fellow students in the US heartland. T= hey also led to protests which radiated across the country, shutting down h= undreds of college campuses, and forcing Richard Nixon to decamp Washington= for Camp David.> > · To hear the recording go to Guardian.co.uk/world= and follow the link> > Copyright Guardian News and Media Limited>=20 _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx= ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:19:10 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 5/7 - 5/11 In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear Ones, You are cordially invited to four upcoming readings. Please note our abnormal start-times, beginning with the recently scheduled Harry Mathews and Doug Nufer reading (Monday, May 7 at 6pm). The Friday =B3late-night=B2 reading will be more along the lines of Happy Hour (6pm), this week only. Love, The Poetry Project Monday, May 7, 6:00 pm *note the early start time! Following Rules: An Oulipian Reading with Harry Mathews & Doug Nufer Born in New York in 1930, Harry Mathews settled in Europe in 1952 and has since then lived in Spain, Germany, Italy, and (chiefly) France. In 1978 he returned to the United States to teach for several years at Bennington College, Columbia University, and the New School University. Now married to the French writer Marie Chaix, he divides his time between Paris and Key West. When Mathews published his first poems in 1956, he was associated wit= h the so-called New York School of poets, with three of whom (John Ashbery, Kenneth Koch, James Schuyler) he founded the review Locus Solus in 1961. Through his friendship with Georges Perec, he became a member of the Oulipo in 1972. The author of six novels and several collections of poetry, his most recent publications are Sainte Catherine, a novella written in French (=C9ditions P.O.L, 2000), The Human Country: the Collected Short Stories (Dalkey Archive Press, 2002), The Case of the Persevering Maltese: Collecte= d Essays (Dalkey Archive Press, 2003), Oulipo Compendium (co-edited with Alastair Brotchie; Atlas Press and Make Now Press, 2005), and My Life in CIA: A Chronicle of 1973 (Dalkey Archive Press, 2005). Doug Nufer writes works of fiction and poetry and pieces for performance that seem to follow odd procedures, even when they don't. His novels include Never Again, Negativeland, and most recently, a double novel, The Mudflat Man/ The River Boys. His fiction and/or poetry has appeared in Chain, Fence, Monkey Puzzle= , Bird Dog, and The Golden Handcuffs Review. He also performs his work with choreographer Erin Mitchell and her dance troupe (he speaks/ they dance). H= e lives in Seattle, where he runs a wine shop. Monday, May 7, 8:30 pm *note the later than usual start time! Open Reading Sign up at 8:15. (The open reading will follow the Mathews/Nufer reading). Wednesday, May 9, 8:00 pm An Evening of Poets & Painters with Granary Books Following in the venerable tradition of fostering and publishing collaborations between poets and painters, Granary Books has reinvented the form and extended it into the 21st century with some of the most interestin= g and compelling works in the field. This evening=B9s program will emphasize a selection of Granary=B9s less-seen limited edition artists=B9 books, with slide presentations and hands-on examples presented by John Yau & Archie Rand, Johanna Drucker, Larry Fagin & Trevor Winkfield, Charles Bernstein & Susan Bee, Anne Waldman, Ron Padgett, Julie Harrison and others. For more information on Granary Books, visit their website at www.granarybooks.com. Friday, May 11, 6:00 pm *note the early start time! A Glorious Celebratory Festival Of Brief Readings From Some Recently Published & Highly Awesome Chapbooks To be Followed By Revelry A group reading curated by Matthew Zapruder (author of American Linden (Tupelo Press, 2002) and The Pajamaist (Copper Canyon, 2006), celebrating poetry from recently released award-winning and self-published chapbooks, featuring Dottie Lasky, Valzhyna Mort, Dan Chelotti, Kate Hall, Cindy King, Betsy Wheeler, Travis Nichols, Monica Fambrough, Lori Shine, Kathy Ossip, Cole Heinowitz and Stephanie Ruth Anderson. Please visit http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php for reader bios. Note the early start time of this Friday night event! Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.com/membership.php Spring Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.com. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 18:12:07 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: the Frank Sherlock WEEKEND in NY and Philly! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline poetry reading SUNDAY! MAY 6TH! 4PM! Frank Sherlock, Jocelyn Saidenberg, Will Esposito, Hailey Higdon ROBIN'S BOOKSTORE http://www.robinsbookstore.com/ 108 S. 13th Street Philadelphia -------------***------------- SATURDAY, MAY 5TH! Extremely important FUN night on the way, This Saturday, a benefit show for our good friend Frank Sherlock, Cinco De Mayo, 2007, @ Pete's Candy Store* May 5th, 2007: 9pm to Midnight* Goodbye Better will be raffling off tons of books and cds, with all proceeds going to the Frank Sherlock Emergency Fund: Performing will be... *Dustin Williamson Dustin Williamson is the auther of 'Heavy Panda' (Goodbye Better) & 'Gorilla Dust' (Open 24 Hours Press), and is the editor of Rustbuckle Publications. *Corrine Fitzpatrick Corrine Fitzpatrick is the author of 'On Melody Dispatch' (Goodbye Better), is from San Diego, and currently works at The Poetry Project. *John Colletti John Colletti is the author of 'Chirping Ambrosia' (Goodbye Better) and 'Physical Kind' (Portable Press At YoYo Labs/Boku Books), and is the founder of the poemcore movement. *So L'il and Bendomelina So L'il is psychedelic lounge ben. They have just completed a new full-length, 'A Glittering Facade', and are featured on White Label Music's latest release, 'Electronic Bible 3.' Bendomelina is a cat who wore a pot on her head, and known as a poet named Amy. http://www.myspace.com/solil http://solil.net *I Feel Tractor I Feel Tractor has released a self-titled 7" record (Ugly Duckling), and their cd 'Once I Had An Earthquake' was released last year on Goodbye Better. http://www.myspace.com/ifeeltractor *Pumpernickel Mark Ospovat (owner & producer extraordinare of the legendary Williamsburg studio Emandee) re-unites with his equally legendary band Pumpernickel (who in the late 90s released the classic 'The Albany Purchase' [Spare Me]). http://www.myspace.com/pumpernickelmusic Pete's Candy Store is located at 709 Lorimer St. in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. http://petescandystore.com Directions: L train to Lorimer or G to Metropolitan. ----------------------------------------------------- Our good friend Frank Sherlock was rushed to the hospital January 22nd with a sudden and mysterious illness which turned out to be a serious case of meningitis. He needed emergency surgery and also suffered a heart attack and kidney failure as a result of symptoms related to the illness. His friends have come together to help him at this critical time. We are reaching out to other friends and the poetry community on Frank's behalf. Frank's poetry page can be found here: http://FrankSherlock.blogspot.com THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD,from the Friends of Frank Sherlock the Frank Sherlock EMERGENCY FUND: http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------- Also, for those of you who care, prior to this benefit, Pete's will be having a Kentucky Derby party all day... EL KENTUCKY DERBY 4-9 Backyard BBQ ! Musicians !! Drink specials !!! Horse-guessing contest !!!! Prizes !!!!! The race, on Pete's widescreen TV, live from Louisville, KY !!!!!! ---------------------------------------------- Thanks!* Love, Goodbye Better http://goodbyebetter.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:40:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Subject: CFP: Composing Place in a National Context (5/3/07; MSA 2007 11/1/07-11/4/07) on behalf of "Margaret Konkol" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Margaret Konkol" To: "UB Poetics discussion group" Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 18:48:27 -0400 Subject: CFP: Composing Place in a National Context (5/3/07; MSA 2007 11/1/07-11/4/07) Composing Place in a National Context Modernist Studies Association 9th Annual Conference November 1-4, 2007 Long Beach, CA A "poet of place," "regional poet" or "geographic poet" traditionally has been code for describing a poet's limited appeal or relevance to any but a small local readership. In the past century poets given this appellation have been regarded as Modernist Romantics, dedicated to local surroundings, caring little for travel and less for the foreign, who prefer the rural village to the spreading bourgeois lifestyle, centered as it is on the mobility, technology and industrial development provided by the metropole. Yet geography, place and landscape have been central concerns for acknowledged modernist giants like Stein, Williams, Yeats, MacDiarmid and Olson. In the 1920s the debates about American localism reached a fever pitch with social critics like John Dewey proclaiming America to be nothing but a patchwork of obscure locales. Through reinvestigations of poetic projects that embrace the vexed question of nationalism and localism and that constitute place through early century trans-Atlantic voyages, mid-century motor holidays, letters and publication history in little magazines, this panel proposes new ways of reading "place" in terms of mobility and flow. How do poets reconstitute place=96=96communal and psychic=96=96along the ax= is of a working class, urban elite or middle class sensibility? Rethinking the gendered consumption of locality, how do poets reimagine the subgenre of the prospect poem and thereby undercut a tradition of masculine aspirations including mastery, political authority and privileged vision? What are the consequences of travel and the consequences of staying home? This panel invites theorizations of the imaginative making of place, both visited and social/epistolary, the relationship and flow of exchange between the center and the periphery, poetry and popular culture, tourism of the roadside attraction and the picturesque in mid-century America. le Please send a 250 word abstract and brief CV to Margaret Konkol, by May 5, = 2007. Email: mekonkol@buffalo.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:45:13 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Fwd: Sign the Petition: Restore Our Rights Comments: To: carolroos@earthlink.net, oconn001@umn.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please sign the petition to restore Habeas Corpus! thanks. > > > >Habeas Corpus is missing. > >On October 17, 2006 Congress allowed the president >to sign away a fundamental constitutional right. >It's time to take it back. > > > > >Our petition will be delivered on June 26, 2007=20 >to your Members of Congress in Washington, DC=20 >during our Day of Action. We need 100,000=20 >signatures to send a clear message: We won't=20 >stand on the sidelines while the president=20 >extinguishes the light of American values, our=20 >civil liberties, and respect for law. Be heard. > >Sign=20 >the petition today > > >=A9 ACLU, 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004 > >Unsubscribe=20 >from receiving email, or change your email=20 >preferences. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 18:17:46 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: James T Sherry Subject: BIG Annual Book Party MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The Figures, Roof, Yo-Yo Labs, United Artists, Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating the publication of the following books: a (A)ugust, by Akilah Oliver UNTITLED WORKS, by Tonya Foster NOTES FOR SOME (NOMINALLY) AWAKE, by Julie Patton FERVENT REMNANTS OF REFLECTIVE SURFACES, by Evelyn Reilly ARE WE NOT BETRAYED BY IMPORTANCE, by Francis Picabia SEEING OUT LOUD (back in print), by Jerry Saltz COLUMNS & CATALOGUES, by Peter Schjeldahl MINE, by Clark Coolidge IFLIFE, by Bob Perelman FOLLY, by Nada Gordon MAKING DYING ILLEGAL, by Madeline Gins & Arakawa KLUGE : A MEDITATION & Other Works, by Brian Kim Stefans NINETEEN LINES : A Drawing Center Anthology, ed. by Lytle Shaw MY AUTOBIOGRAPHY, by Barbara Henning SOLUTION SIMULACRA, by Gloria Frym JOIN THE PLANETS, by Reed Bye ACROSS THE BIG MAP, Ruth Altmann SOME FORMS OF AVAILABILITY, by Simon Cutts A TESTAMENT OF WOMEN, by Johanna Drucker PARADIGM OF THE TINCTURES, by Steve McCaffery & Alan Halsey ALMA, OR THE DEAD WOMEN, by Alice Notley PAPER CHILDREN, by Mariana Marin INSPECTOR VS. EVADER, by Paul Killebrew THE HOT GARMENT OF LOVE IS INSECURE, by Elizabeth Reddin THE STATES, by Craig Foltz COMPLETE MINIMAL POEMS, by Aram Saroyan James T Sherry Segue Foundation (212) 493-5984 sherryj@us.ibm.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:25:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: JOB: Rubin Museum of Art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Employment Opportunity: Rubin Museum of Art 150 West 17th Street, New York, New York, 10011 Museum Educator - Full Time Immediate Opening SUMMARY DESCRIPTION: Design and implement school programs and Thinking Through Art curriculum held on- and off-site serving students, teachers and other individuals who desire to learn more about Himalayan art and the RMA's collection. Teach pre- and post-visit classes at schools that are preparing to have guided tours of RMA. Also supports the Education Department in the development and teaching of programs for a range of student and teacher audiences, suc as RMA Teens and Portfolio Prep. Work under the direction of the Head of Education and in collaboration with the Manager, School Programs and the Manager of In-Gallery Resources to conceptualize and develop approaches, programs and resources to serve these audiences and address overall Museum and departmental goals. Work with Curatorial staff to gather content for programs and with Coordinator of Programs in the Education Department on events and workshops. Work to expand the school partnership program and to build institutional partnerships and collaborations that extend the reach of the Museum and serve its educational goals. Responsibilities: Responsibilities include but are not limited to: o Under the direction of the Manager, School Programs, design and implement the off-site School outreach program and Thinking Through Art curriculum. o Organize and develop an innovative curriculum to reach students from a wide range of backgrounds and interests. o Develop contacts with teachers and school administrators to develop and promote school new partnerships with the Museum. o Coordinate schedules and collaborate with other museum educators, consultants, and guest artists. o Conduct evaluation and assessment of educational programs to ensure all programs meet RMA and special grant objectives and goals. o Design and implement pre-and post-visit curricula for classes who have scheduled gallery tours at RMA, including teaching at schools throughout the five boroughs of New York City. o Request and obtain from the Manager of School Programs and the Manager of In-Gallery Resources the content and materials for curricula. o Collaborate with Curatorial and Education Department staff to develop innovative teaching curricula in advance of scheduled exhibitions that compliment and make accessible the RMA's collection. o Identify needs and appropriate topics and themes for the development and production of curriculum packages for targeted audiences. Develop materials, gather content, develop learning objectives, write curriculum, and edit lessons from other arts and museum educators. o With other Education staff, develop and teach programs for a range of students and audiences including RMA Teens and Portfolio Prep classes. o Participate in training program for arts and museum educators for both on and off-site school programs. o Conduct and provide reports on outreach to schools, teachers, community groups, and other target audiences for evaluative purposes and funding initiatives. o Contribute to the planning and development of content for the ExploreArt galleries and spaces, in conjunction with the Curatorial staff and Manager of In-Gallery Resources. Contribute to the documentation of educational programs through an Education@RMA Web site in collaboration with the Web-based Curriculum Developer. o Maintain database and departmental files of contacts and pertinent administrative and content related information. o Work collaboratively with all Museum staff and departments as appropriate and needed to ensure Museum's goals for offering engaging, informative, and accessible visitor experiences. Qualifications: o B.A. in art education or studio art with 2 to 3 years of teaching experience, preferably in K-12 settings. o Excellent communication, writing, and organizational skills. o Proficient in MS Word, Excel, Outlook, and with Internet. o Ability to develop new, relevant teaching curricula as required. o Ability to collaborate with others to design and implement teaching materials in a variety of settings and to aid with long-term Education Department goals. o Must have a passion for teaching about Himalayan art and culture and collaborating with others to implement an innovative program for a diverse audience. Salary Level: o A salary of $35,000. o Competitive benefits package. Please provide the following as part of your application: o Complete resume, including salary history and salary requirements. o Summarize your relevant qualifications for this specific position. o Portfolio. Applications: o Mailed applications - Human Resources Department, Rubin Museum of Art, 150 West 17th Street, New York, New York 10011 o Hand-delivered applications - 140 West 17th Street, New York, New York 1001 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 23:13:57 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nico Vassilakis Subject: Picabia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed now which press is doing Picabia's ARE WE NOT BETRAYED BY IMPORTANCE ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 06:24:58 -0400 Reply-To: jamie@rockheals.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jamie Gaughran-Perez Subject: New Poetry from Justin Sirois, Rob Read and more (periodic Rock Heals plug) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Check out a couple fine fine new poems from Justin Sirois in the new Rock Heals (Week 108) along with the latest song of the week -- an oldie from Blonde Redhead -- all in all, definitely worth checking out. ( www.rockheals.com ) We've been up to a lot of goodness lately with poetry from Rob Read, K. Lorraine Graham, Greg Fuchs, Ken Rumble, and The People’s Peaceable Assembly Line, along with a bunch'a zombie haiku from a bunch'a different folks -- and archives of more that seem to stretch back to the dawn of time. Take a stroll through the "Poetry, Prose, etc." archive to check all that out. And make sure to hit the recording of Bertoldt Brecht singing "Mack the Knife" in the "Sounds, Songs & Videos" archive, along with all the other treats that have been rolling out in our newish "Song of the Week" feature: Amy Winehouse, Okkervil River, Love of Diagrams, and so on. SUBMIT THE GOOD SHITE! Yeah, don't forget to share share share great work of all types from poetry to prose to visuals to recipes and everything in between. We're always looking to find those great-but-to-be-known new voices, new material from folks we've already come to know and love, and cross-genre / weird-genre awesome that doesn't seem to fit anywhere else in the world. email: submissions@rockheals.com (or email me directly). Could this feel more like some quasi-corporate marketing email? jamie.gp -- Jamie Gaughran-Perez www.rockheals.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 07:18:08 -1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Gabrielle Welford Subject: senator akaka on democracy now--please read--very important MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT dear folks i am listening to amy goodman on democracy now speaking to senator akaka about the akaka bill. i'm writing to tell you that you i'm really disgusted that amy--after having been told for years by me and many other people from hawaii that the akaka bill is a dangerous travesty--has chosen to talk to akaka about this and not to those many in hawaii who are totally against the bill. by doing this she is giving support on a nationwide (and beyond) venue to views of hawaii that misrepresent what is happening there--and she's doing this in the ear of people who will most likely not look deeper into the matter, since she is a pundit of the left. burgess, whom she played as someone against the bill, speaks of secession (burgess has been working constantly for many years now to strip native hawaiians of institutions like the office of hawaiian affairs [he was involved in the move that went to the supreme court that allowed non- hawaiians to vote for oha officers], kamehameha schools--which is being attacked for only allowing hawaiians to attend, etc.), and akaka addressed secession in his answer. it is not secession that sovereignty movement hawaiians want but restoration of a nation that was illegally occupied (as recognized by president cleveland at the time), illegally annexed, and illegally made into a state (there was no option for independence given and the u.s. military were permitted to vote). "secession" suggests that hawaii is legally part of the u.s., and amy did not question this even though she has that information on hand. what neither amy nor akaka mentioned in this presentation is that under the akaka bill, native hawaiians would become wards of the u.s. government, completely dependent on the department of the interior (who will have plenary power) for the continuation of recognition; for decisions about the billions of dollars worth of land that are in dispute because they were crown and publicly owned lands under the hawaiian nation --a "problem" that has never been solved; decisions about the continuation of pre-occupation trusts like kamehameha schools, the queen liliuokalani trust for orphans, queen's hospital, bishop estates, and many others that are already under threat by people greedy for the large amounts of money and land involved. they will join native americans in a fake nation-to- nation relationship, where all the power lies with one party. i think everyone is aware of the results of this relationship on native american tribes. the akaka bill is seen by many in hawaii as a last grab by the u.s. (akaka is a u.s. senator, of course) to overturn the huge protests initiated at the time of the overthrow (which was made possible only by the presence of u.s. marines in honolulu, where they forcibly removed liliuokalani from the throne and she acceded to avoid bloodshed--you can read her _hawaii's story by hawaii's queen_--a constitutional monarchy, by the way) by the queen and her supporters. (you can read a very good article that came out at the time at http://www.hawaii-nation.org/sfcall.htm, and much other information about all this is at http://www.volcanovillage.com/StealingHawaii.htm as well as at hawaii-nation.org.) if a country is occupied by another (iraq is a current example), the occupying country is supposed to keep the laws of the occupied country in place (the nazis broke this international law in belgium and were forced to pay for the breach). the protest by 40,000 hawaiians (a nationality at the time--the racial interpretation was imposed by the u.s.) cemented the illegality of the annexation. if hawaiians accept the akaka bill, they will be revoking their protest and acceding to the u.s. theft of their nation. none of this is spoken out loud except by the folks, including haunani kay trask--internationally known activist--who are protesting the akaka bill. if any of you have access to amy goodman (and those of you who don't, please write to mail@democracynow.org), i plead with you to contact her and put her right about this. don't let her get away without putting the other side out there. if enough people write to her, she will have to listen (i hope). love to all, gabrielle Gabrielle Welford, Ph.D. Instructor University of San Francisco welford@hawaii.edu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 2/27/2007 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:39:36 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Barrett Watten Subject: CFP: Marxism, Poetics, and Spatial Formation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable CFP: Marxism, Poetics, and Spatial Formation Modernist Studies Association, Long Beach, CA, October 2007 Ruth Jennison (UMass Amherst) and Barrett Watten (Wayne State U),= co-organizers This session proposes to expand the range of connection between the spatial= =20 formations of modernity and poetic form, by using reading strategies from=20 the twentieth-century Marxist tradition. Panel presentations may take up=20 approaches such as: the cultural entailments of =93combined and uneven=20 development=94 of capitalist economies, in relation to modernist and=20 postmodern poetics; political economy in its transnational and global=20 articulations; Left poetics and spaces of cultural dialogue; critical=20 geography and critical regionalism; spatiotem=ADporal concepts of the=20 =93horizon=94 of literary form in relation to material culture;= transnational=20 feminisms; and the =93cognitive mapping=94 of modernity read in the= specifics=20 of poetic form. Our overarching questions are: 1) how can materialist theories of spatial=20 production help us to reconceive the critical history of poetic production?= =20 2) how does poetic form mediate the spatial political economies of advanced= =20 capitalist globalization? and 3) how do materialist poetics make visible=20 the contact points between geography and history? To these ends, we seek=20 proposals at the intersections of Marxism, poetics, and theories of spatial= =20 formation. Possible topics and approaches may include, but are not limited to: * Modern and postmodern poetics and globalization * Theorists of the Marxist tradition (Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Rosa=20 Luxemburg, Antonio Gramsci, Ernest Mandel, Raymond Williams, Henri=20 Lefebvre, Aijaz Ahmad, Perry Anderson, Fred=ADric Jameson, David Harvey) and= =20 spatialized cultural production/the cultural production of space * Radical poetics and revolutionary geographies * Border poetics in the modern and postmodern periods * Anti-imperialism, anti-colonialism, and avant-garde negativity * Poetics and materialist/transnational feminisms * Race, diaspora, and Marxist political cultures * Poetics of immigrant class formations * Psychic topographies, critical geographies and poetic landscapes * Poetics against nature; ecopoetics and political economy * Poetry's spatial imaginary vs. cold war antinomies * Nation, state, and the ideology of modernism/postmodernism * Lyric autonomy, spatial form, and spatialized history Proposals, with a short biographical note, may be sent to the=20 co-organizers: Ruth Jennison, Dept. of English, UMass Amherst=20 (ruthj@english.umass.edu) and/or Barrett=20 Watten, Dept. of English, Wayne State University (b.watten@wayne.edu).=20 Deadline: May 12 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:51:08 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Orson Whales Comments: To: spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, ubuweb@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed I=92ve been drawing it on every page of Moby Dick (using two books to =20= get both sides of each page) for months. The soundtrack is built from =20= searching =93moby dick=94 on You Tube (I was looking for Orson=92s = Preacher =20 from the the John Huston film), I couldn=92t find the preacher, but you =20= find tons of Led Zep and drummers doing Bonzo and a little Orson =20 reading from the Novel for a failed Italian T.V. film=85=85 makes for a =20= nice Melville in the end. http://web.futureofthebook.org/itinplace/archives/2007/05/=20 moby_welles.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:25:19 -0400 Reply-To: az421@freenet.carleton.ca Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: announcing: poetics.ca #7 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Poetics.ca #7 (finally!) now on-line As an attempt to discuss the range of contemporary practice in modern poetry, we are pleased to announce the seventh issue of Poetics.ca (www.poetics.ca). The seventh issue features: -- Ulterior Thule: Compulsion by Phil Hall -- The Vehicule Poets and Second Generation Postmodernism: An Essay by Ken Norris, With questions by Jason Camlot and Todd Swift -- The Vehicule Poets edited by Jason Camlot and Todd Swift -- Introduction to The Collected Poems and Translations of Edward A. Lacey by Fraser Sutherland -- Love and Other Affairs by John Newlove -- an interview with Rachel Zucker by rob mclennan Please visit Poetics.ca and send us your thoughts. Stephen Brockwell and rob mclennan, editors Roland Prevost, managing editor + web designer ========================= -- poet/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...13th poetry coll'n - The Ottawa City Project .... c/o 858 Somerset St W, Ottawa ON K1R 6R7 * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 07:05:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: poem on time MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit a poem on time: http://vispo.com/nio/pens/springs7.htm of course whether it is, in your opinion, on time will depend on you and your circumstances. the toolbar at the bottom of this piece lets you check it out at different sizes and so on; this one profits from making one nib maximally large and the others progressively smaller. thanks to Joes Keppler and Keenan. 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overlooked--hope this editi= on brings a lot of new readers!!onwo/ards--with outwo/ards--david-bc> Date:= Thu, 3 May 2007 23:13:57 -0700> From: shoehorns@MSN.COM> Subject: Picabia>= To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU> > now> which press is doing Picabia's> A= RE WE NOT BETRAYED BY IMPORTANCE _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx= ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:50:41 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Ciccariello Subject: Re: poem on time In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Mesmerizing work Jim, I'd love to be immersed in this in a holographic room. - Peter Ciccariello On 5/4/07, Jim Andrews wrote: > > a poem on time: http://vispo.com/nio/pens/springs7.htm > > of course whether it is, in your opinion, on time will depend on you and > your circumstances. > > the toolbar at the bottom of this piece lets you check it out at different > sizes and so on; this one profits from making one nib maximally large and > the others progressively smaller. > > thanks to Joes Keppler and Keenan. Joe Keppler has done some remarkable > visual time poems and Joe Keenan did a great piece called Moment that's > sort > of related to the approach of this poem. > > ja > > ps: as usual with my work, you need the shockwave plugin, which you can > install from http://vispo.com/misc/downloadShockwave.htm if you like. > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:30:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Kasimor Subject: a new issue of ensemble jourine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is a beautiful online jourine. I am also featured in it. announcing the online may issue ensemble jourine hybrid writing by women www. ensemblejourine. com appearing march, may, july, and october hybrid writing by an ensemble of innovative women writers: long work, cross-genre, prose poem, plays, poem-plays, experimental, lyric essay, mixed media. . . an on-going publication of serialized chapters, sections, and scenes of manuscripts by the ensemble vol.1, no.4 ensemble: Robyn Art Geraldine Connolly Brenda Connor-Bey julia doughty eldon Alena Hairston/elen gebreab Mary Kasimor Julianna McCarthy Ellen Orleans Sarah Vap and additional work appearing in the printed publication ensemble antholozine hybrid writing by women available to order at www.ensemblejourine.com --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:05:11 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: BIG Annual Book Party In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On May 3, 2007, at 3:17 PM, James T Sherry wrote: > The Figures, Roof, Yo-Yo Labs, United Artists, > Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party > at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th > May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating > the publication of the following books: > What city? > George Harry Bowering Can't find his Speedo ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:27:09 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: Orson Whales Comments: To: spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, ubuweb@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <99975C55-16EF-4E69-AF9B-EDA19EF349EA@mwt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope people realize this is not by me, I'm just boinging the link. =20= I neglected to enclose it in quotes. Sorry about that. ~mIEKAL On May 4, 2007, at 11:51 AM, mIEKAL aND wrote: > I=92ve been drawing it on every page of Moby Dick (using two books to =20= > get both sides of each page) for months. The soundtrack is built =20 > from searching =93moby dick=94 on You Tube (I was looking for Orson=92s = =20 > Preacher from the the John Huston film), I couldn=92t find the =20 > preacher, but you find tons of Led Zep and drummers doing Bonzo and =20= > a little Orson reading from the Novel for a failed Italian T.V. =20 > film=85=85 makes for a nice Melville in the end. > > http://web.futureofthebook.org/itinplace/archives/2007/05/=20 > moby_welles.html > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 15:13:29 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Petermeier Subject: libraries and Hilde Domin In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, CA Conrad wrote: > This is because otherwise these books (many of them > poetry) would be thrown out with the new city policy > of getting rid of books that do not circulate for a > year. When this policy was first instituted I > gathered my friends to help check out random poetry > books (of which there were thousands, wonderful rare > things, like the entire catalog of Gil Orlovitz for > instance, and rare German poets like Hilda Domin > (who is NOT (I'm annoyed to see) in that new > anthology of Modern German poets) and many other > things, OH, like Cid Corman's GIST OF ORIGIN, but > anyway) to keep them from disappearing, which many > had already. And I thought we had it bad here in Minneapolis where the libraries have been underfunded by the city (and state), resulting in limited hours and neighborhood branches being closed. Then Mayor Rybak presents the only feasible solution to be to give the entire Minneapolis library system (books, buildings & employees) to Hennepin County so that decisions about city library services can be made by a majority four (out of seven) county commissioners who live in the suburbs and will be able to appoint committee members, rather than having an elected library board, and so that they can pay city library employees less money than they currently get paid for doing the same job. All done on a fast track model with only superficial public involvement and lots of completely unanswered questions. Imagine eliminating a democratically elected library board and transferring millions of dollars in city assets to a suburban governmental entity without public involvement or any kind of vote. It is the same kind of manuever that got us a half billion dollar baseball stadium next to a garbage burner, though in that case they at least pretended to give the public a forum to vent. I can only hope we don't end up having to rescue obscure poetry books by checking them out of the library every year. But, hey CA, tell me more about Hilde Domin. I have a German poetry anthology from my college days with one poem of hers in it. I should be grateful for that I suppose. I know nothing of her, so please tell me more. pac, lov and undrstanding (nvr giv up!) Stv Ptrmir no man's land minnapolis, mn usa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:31:50 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Congratulations to Lorna Dee Cervantes! In-Reply-To: <593223.17394.qm@web32913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lorna Dee Cervantes' poem, "Shelling the Pecans", has just won a Pushcart Prize! First published in MiPOesias' print companion, OCHO (http://www.lulu.com/mipo), the poem can now be viewed at MiPOesias -- http://www.mipoesias.com/ Cheers! --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:33:40 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Re: BIG Annual Book Party In-Reply-To: <3a4ee4677b35549a7c9d6845d3c772d2@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit New York City - Jack Shainman Gallery -- http://www.jackshainman.com/ George Bowering wrote: On May 3, 2007, at 3:17 PM, James T Sherry wrote: > The Figures, Roof, Yo-Yo Labs, United Artists, > Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party > at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th > May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating > the publication of the following books: > What city? --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 22:09:09 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Re: libraries and Hilde Domin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Steve, wow, the Minneapolis library system sounds dreadful, but at least they're not tossing books due to "not being read." The truth is (at least this seems obvious to me) that just because a book hasn't been "checked out" and carried out of the library doesn't mean that someone hasn't been sitting and looking at it in the library. It's so ridiculous! The man who now heads the Philadelphia Library system (I forget his name) isn't even a librarian, he's a business man, and wants to run the library as such. It's a nightmare. I'm going to have to kick his ass one day soon! When I first moved to Philadelphia, broke, I spent hours and hours and hours every single week in the library. Much of my amazement, much of my daily findings were from browsing the shelves. And I had these kooky systems of divination, holding my hands over the bookshelves with my eyes closed until something FELT right. Hilde Domin was one of those who felt right. She was in this anthology called FOUR GERMAN POETS, which I think you can still probably find somewhere. Maybe online? She went into exile during WW2, and I think that exile kept her out of the loop, you know? And her poems have continued to suffer that exile for some reason, instead of being championed! Well I champion her! Which poem of Domin's have you read Steven? CAConrad http://MYFOREHEAD.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 00:25:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Morgan Schuldt Subject: New from Kitchen Press Chapbooks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Otherhow by Morgan Lucas Schuldt http://morganlucasschuldt.blogspot.com/ Kitchen Press is a micro-press run out of Hell's Kitchen, NYC, and is a member of CLMP. It's purpose is to publish quality handmade chapbooks by emerging poets. Sample work available at: http://www.kitchenpresschapbooks.blogspot.com/ To Order: http://www.kitchen-press-book-store.blogspot.com/ Also forthcoming from Kitchen Press: Run Down the Emphasis, Erin Elizabeth Burke Why I Am White, Mathias Svalina Tentative List, Thomas David Lisk Out of Light, Joe Massey _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:51:57 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Russo, Linda V." Subject: Sound Poetry in Norman, OK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, As some of you may know, I've inspired (through teaching moreso than by example!) and am currently working with a group of students exploring poetry and performance at the University of Oklahoma - see link to = article below... =20 There are a few minor factual errors - especially regarding the = collapsing of post-wwII performance contexts; my students do in fact understand the difference in manifestations of Buddhism and the consequent social and political objectives in the work of Mac Low and the Beats; their = performances do create a confluence, as it turns out. =20 Is this an isolated incident, or do others know of undergrads taking an = interest in exploring language as a sonic/semantic medium in this way? http://hub.ou.edu/articles/article.php?article_id=3D1712033609&search_id=3D= 2029973675 best, Linda Russo ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 10:51:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Jorgensen, Alexander" Subject: The moment a teenage girl was stoned to death for loving the wrong boy In-Reply-To: <979976.79361.qm@web83312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=452288&in_page_id=1811 amy king wrote: New York City - Jack Shainman Gallery -- http://www.jackshainman.com/ George Bowering wrote: On May 3, 2007, at 3:17 PM, James T Sherry wrote: > The Figures, Roof, Yo-Yo Labs, United Artists, > Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party > at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th > May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating > the publication of the following books: > What city? --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- "[H]e who leaps into the void owes no explanation to those who watch.” (Jean-Luc Godard) --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:20:54 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Kasimor Subject: Re: Sound Poetry in Norman, OK In-Reply-To: <616885FB42966548B07F9EBADA59E14204E63D3B@XMAIL.sooner.net.ou.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Linda, This reminds me of John Cage's music circuses. (I think they were called or something like that.) Is this the same type of thing? I can see that students would love to do this kind of creating. Mary Kasimor "Russo, Linda V." wrote: Hello everyone, As some of you may know, I've inspired (through teaching moreso than by example!) and am currently working with a group of students exploring poetry and performance at the University of Oklahoma - see link to article below... There are a few minor factual errors - especially regarding the collapsing of post-wwII performance contexts; my students do in fact understand the difference in manifestations of Buddhism and the consequent social and political objectives in the work of Mac Low and the Beats; their performances do create a confluence, as it turns out. Is this an isolated incident, or do others know of undergrads taking an interest in exploring language as a sonic/semantic medium in this way? http://hub.ou.edu/articles/article.php?article_id=1712033609&search_id=2029973675 best, Linda Russo --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 15:36:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: The moment a teenage girl was stoned to death for loving the wrong boy In-Reply-To: <193543.12741.qm@web54611.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable the whole page of the Daily Mail shows bizarre contracts (meant to say contrasts!) of sexuality. wonder if anyone knows how many women are stoned to death each year--prob. it's usually hidden. maybe brave Muslim women wil= l lead the next freedom movement in this world. On 5/5/07 1:51 PM, "Jorgensen, Alexander" wrote: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_art= icle_ > id=3D452288&in_page_id=3D1811 >=20 > amy king wrote: New York City - Jack Shainman Gall= ery > -- http://www.jackshainman.com/ >=20 >=20 > George Bowering wrote: On May 3, 2007, at 3:17 PM, James T Sherry wrote: >=20 >> The Figures, Roof, Yo-Yo Labs, United Artists, >> Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party >> at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th >> May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating >> the publication of the following books: >>=20 > What city? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > "[H]e who leaps into the void owes no explanation > to those who watch.=B2 (Jean-Luc Godard) > =20 > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 20:31:18 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: annals of measurement and desire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed annals of measurement and desire http://www.asondheim.org/bodg1.mov http://www.asondheim.org/bodg2.mov http://www.asondheim.org/bodg3.mov http://www.asondheim.org/bodg4.mov interpretive swellings and slotted surfaces transformed into speaking bodies spoken for every foreign family is imminent, familiar http://www.asondheim.org/bodg.jpg transformation through repeated wmp link collapse ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 09:43:18 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alison Croggon Subject: Re: The moment a teenage girl was stoned to death for loving the wrong boy In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I notice she was a Yezidi Kurd, ie not Islamic nor Arabic, and her boyfrien= d was a Sunni. Honour killings occur through all the patriarchal religions. On 5/6/07, Ruth Lepson wrote: > > the whole page of the Daily Mail shows bizarre contracts (meant to say > contrasts!) of sexuality. wonder if anyone knows how many women are stone= d > to death each year--prob. it's usually hidden. maybe brave Muslim women > will > lead the next freedom movement in this world. > > > On 5/5/07 1:51 PM, "Jorgensen, Alexander" wrote: > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_art= icle_ > > id=3D452288&in_page_id=3D1811 > > > > amy king wrote: New York City - Jack Shainman > Gallery > > -- http://www.jackshainman.com/ > > > > > > George Bowering wrote: On May 3, 2007, at 3:17 PM, James T Sherry > wrote: > > > >> The Figures, Roof, Yo-Yo Labs, United Artists, > >> Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party > >> at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th > >> May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating > >> the publication of the following books: > >> > > What city? > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > > > > > > > -- > > "[H]e who leaps into the void owes no explanation > > to those who watch.=B2 (Jean-Luc Godard) > > > > --------------------------------- > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > --=20 Editor, Masthead: http://www.masthead.net.au Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com Home page: http://www.alisoncroggon.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 12:07:15 +1000 Reply-To: John Tranter Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Tranter Subject: "Announcing Jacket 32 - April 2007" at http://jacketmagazine.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A"Announcing Jacket 32 - April 2007" at http://jacketmagazine.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ARTICLES =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 >>>>> Anthony Stephens: Cutting Poets to Size - Heidegger, H=F6lderlin, Ril= ke >>>>> Gilbert Adair: "Child-Emporererer (vacncy)": Apprehending U.S. Empire= through Robert Fitterman's =ABMetropolis=BB >>>>> Andrea Brady: The Other Poet: John Wieners, Frank O'Hara, Charles Ols= on >>>>> Stephen Fredman: Edward Dorn >>>>> Steve Halle: Against Lightning Flashes: Inspiration in Kristin Preva= llet's =ABScratch Sides: Poetry, Documentation, and Image-Text Projects=BB,= by Kristin Prevallet >>>>> Douglas Messerli: What is to be Done? >>>>> Cl=E9ment Oudart: Genreading and Underwriting: A Few Soundings and Pr= obes into Duncan's =ABGround Work=BB >>>>> David Rosenberg: The Lost Poets of the Wild: The Influence of the Fir= st Writing Poets in Sumer =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D INTERVIEWS =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>>> Nicomedes Su=E1rez-Ara=FAz: In Search of the Night: on translating Ja= ime Saenz: an Interview with his translators, Kent Johnson and Forrest Gand= er >>>>> Wayne Koestenbaum in conversation with Tony Leuzzi, 22 October 2004, = Le Gamin Coffee Shop, Chelsea, New York >>>>> Deborah Meadows in conversation with Romina Freschi, Buenos Aires, Ar= gentina, 2006 =3D=3D=3D FEATURE =3D=3D=3D Pressure to Experiment >>>>> Introduction (Bloomfield et al.) >>>>> Joan Retallack: What is Experimental Poetry & Why Do We Need It? >>>>> Jena Osman: Is Poetry the News?: The Poethics of the Found Text >>>>> Harriet Tarlo: Radical Landscapes: experiment and environment in cont= emporary poetry >>>>> Caroline Bergvall: The Franker Tale (Deus Hic, 2) >>>>> Caroline Bergvall: Short aside to 'The Franker Tale'. >>>>> Vincent Broqua: Pressures of Never-at-home >>>>> Nikolai Duffy: The Poetics of Emergency >>>>> Josh Robinson: 'Innocence and incapability impose': Towards an Ethic = of Experimentation >>>>> Luke Harley: Music as prod and precedent: Nathaniel Mackey's niggling= at the limits of language =3D=3D=3D FEATURE =3D=3D=3D The Poetry of Response Edited by Christopher Ke= len >>>>> Christopher Kelen: Introduction >>>>> Peter Riley: Quotation: 'It Don't Mean a Thing' >>>>> Tony Barnstone: The Cannibal at Work: Five Discourses on Translation,= Transformation, Imitation, and Transmutation >>>>> Gary Blankenship: After Wang Wei >>>>> Forrest Gander: The Strange Case of Thomas Traherne >>>>> Kent Johnson: Imitation, Traduction, Fiction, Response >>>>> Oana Avasilichioaei and Er=EDn Moure: C's Garden >>>>> chus pato, andr=E9s ajens et al.: correspondencias (lal=EDn, galicia = - santiago, chile; iowa city/buenos aires, la paz, ciudad ju=E1rez/los ange= les >>>>> Christopher Kelen: conversation with Tang Poets: some notes on the pr= actice =3D=3D=3D FEATURE =3D=3D=3D The Holiday Album: Greeting Card poems for All = Occasions, Edited by Elaine Equi >>>>> Elaine Equi: Best Wishes (Introduction) >>>>> Elaine Equi: Happy New Year >>>>> David Lehman: Time Frame >>>>> Wayne Koestenbaum: Short Subjects >>>>> Rae Armantrout: Address >>>>> Nick Piombino: Valentine's Day - Valentine's Day - Feb. 14th >>>>> David Shapiro: Colorful Hands - Holi: The Festival of Colors (Indian)= - first weekend in March >>>>> Tom Clark: Equinox - March 21/22 >>>>> Vincent Katz: Back From The Dead - The Veneralia (Roman) - April 1st >>>>> Jeanne Marie Beaumont: F=EAte of the Little Boats - (French) - April= 6th >>>>> Martine Bellen: On John Ashbery Day - A Cento - April 7th >>>>> Cathy McArthur: At the Wildlife Center - Bird Day - May 4th >>>>> Jerome Sala: Mother's Day=20 >>>>> Jeanne Marie Beaumont: Flower & Camera - Flower & Camera Day - June = 29th >>>>> Chris Martin: Independence Day=20 >>>>> Stacy Szymaszek: Hammock Day - July 22nd >>>>> Erica Kaufman: admit you're happy day - Aug. 8th >>>>> Erica Kaufman: elvis week - Aug. 8-16th >>>>> Fanny Howe: Our Lady of Knock, August 21, 1879 >>>>> Jerome Sala: Anniversary >>>>> Gregory Crosby: Columbo Day - Oct. 12th >>>>> Connie Deanovich: Happy Hamlet Day - Oct 15th >>>>> Amy Gerstler: All Saints' Day - Nov. 1st >>>>> Joe Brainard: Thanksgiving=20 >>>>> David Trinidad: Doll Memorial Service - Doll Memorial Day - second S= aturday in December >>>>> David Shapiro: After Ryokan - Winter Solstice - Dec. 21st=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D REVIEWS =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=20 >>>>> Raewyn Alexander: =ABRed the Fiend=BB by Gilbert Sorrentino >>>>> Raewyn Alexander: =ABSundays on the Phone=BB, by Mark Rudman >>>>> Raewyn Alexander: =ABRain=BB by John Woodward >>>>> James Belflower: =ABHarrow=BB, by Elizabeth Robinson >>>>> Marcelo Coelho: =ABRapid Departures=BB by Vincent Katz, illustrations= by Mario Cafiero >>>>> Ian Davidson: =ABGrave of Light: New and Selected Poems 1970-2005=BB,= by Alice Notley >>>>> Marcella Durand: =ABsecure portable space=BB, by Redell Olsen >>>>> Clive Faust: =ABLanguage Is=BB by John Phillips >>>>> Tom Goff: =ABTap-Root: Poems=BB by Indigo Moor >>>>> Michael Gottlieb: =ABThe Anger Scale=BB by Katie Degentesh >>>>> David Hart: Peter Redgrove: eight books >>>>> Andrew Mossin: =ABBlue Studios: Poetry and Its Cultural Work=BB, by R= achel Blau DuPlessis >>>>> Linda Russo: =ABTerminal Humming=BB by K. Lorraine Graham >>>>> Linda Russo: =ABCrop=BB by Yedda Morrison >>>>> Linda Russo: =ABChantry=BB by Elizabeth Treadwell >>>>> Standard Schaefer: =ABBroken World=BB, by Joseph Lease >>>>> James Sherry: =ABThe Grand Piano=BB Project: ...an ongoing experiment in collective autobiography by ten writers identif= ied with Language poetry in San Francisco. It takes its name from a coffeeh= ouse at 1607 Haight Street, where from 1976-79 the authors took part in a r= eading and performance series. The writing project, begun in 1998, was unde= rtaken as an online collaboration, first via an interactive web site and la= ter through a listserv. >>>>> =ABThe Grand Piano=BB Part 1 reviewed. >>>>> =ABThe Grand Piano=BB Part 2 reviewed. >>>>> Alan Sondheim: =ABThe Flowers of Evil=BB, by Charles Baudelaire, tran= slated by Keith Waldrop, Wesleyan University Press, 2006 >>>>> Jason Stumpf: =ABNecessary Stranger=BB by Graham Foust >>>>> Donald Wellman: =ABFigured Image=BB by Anne-Marie Albiach, trans. Kei= th Waldrop =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D POEMS =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=20 >>>>> Iain Britton: Lemurs and Missing Links in Loops >>>>> Bruce Covey: Two poems: 'Still'; 'Good & Plenty' >>>>> Romina Freschi: Initials (2004/05) >>>>> Michael Kelleher: Number Crunch >>>>> Ronald Koertge: Three Haibun >>>>> Kristin Prevallet: Tales of Caw >>>>> Robert Sheppard: Sonnets from =ABSeptember 12=BB -------------------------------------------------- best John Tranter and Pam Brown Editors, Jacket magazine ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 22:18:48 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Crockett Subject: busted poet now dotcom startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, I'm over with poetry blogging. Way too much fuzz. Now I'm an internet dotcom startup at http://gravityway.com --- future home of the social networking web site to end them all. Check us out. Also, I'm still looking for visual and textual work for the next issue at http://listenlight.net. I'm still doing that. I promise. Until I die. Send poetry to listenlight.net, then visit gravityway.com and offer your brilliant mind, esp. if you are a lawyer. I need a lawyer. And web design. Free. And physics engineers. Also free. Do you know any? Hum, a systems analyst, perhaps. Also required. Sorry, I am all out of marketing and lucidity. All the best to you ! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 20:29:19 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Petermeier Subject: Re: libraries and Hilde Domin In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 4 May 2007, CA Conrad wrote: > Hilde Domin was one of those who felt right. > > She was in this anthology called FOUR GERMAN POETS, > which I think you can still probably find somewhere. Cool. I checked at the library and low and behold, the Minneapolis Public Library has a copy. I requested to have it sent to my neighborhood library. The hours, funding and proposal by the mayor suck, but the MPL does have a pretty good collection. I can only hope we can keep it in control of the citizens of our city and not the county. And CA also wrote: > Which poem of Domin's have you read Steven? It's in the "Echtermeyer Deutsche Gedichte" anthology I bought for a German poetry class that I had when I attended the University of Minnesota in the early 80s. The anthology covers a lot of ground from early anonymous poems, Andreas Gryphius, Goethe, Hoelderlin, Rilke, Brecht, even Kurt Schwitters. The one Domin poem is "'Seids Gewesen, seids gewesen!'" My German is a bit rusty and this title is a little tricky, but I'd translate it as "'As it's been, as it's been!'" I'll include the entire German text below, and I can try a full translation later if necessary (or perhaps someone else can if they've got the time). It's a cool poem. If you've got the English version, maybe you can share it. pac, lov and undrstanding (nvr giv up!) Stv Ptrmir no man's land minnapolis, mn usa ************** "seids gewesen, seids gewesen!" by Hilde Domin Die letzte Erde der Erde letzter Tag die letzte Landschaft die eines letzten Menschen Auge sieht unerinnert nicht weitergegeben an nicht mehr Kommende dieser Tag ohne Namen ihn su rufen ohne Rufende nicht gruener nicht weisser nicht blauer als die Tage die wir sehn oder schwarz oder feuerfarben er wird einen Abend haben oder er wird keinen Abend haben seine Helle sein Dunkel unvergleichbar. Die Sonne die leuchtet falls sie leuchtet unbegruesst nach diesem Tag wird es sich unter ihr oeffnen? Werden wir als Staunende wieder herausgegeben unter einem waehrenden Licht? Zuender der letzten Lunte Maden der Ewigkeit? ******* (ain't that beautiful?)********** ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 04:35:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Re: poem on time In-Reply-To: <8f3fdbad0705041050j6f1c8025xdfecc01d72ed9af3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Mesmerizing work Jim, I'd love to be immersed in this in a > holographic room. > - Peter Ciccariello Thanks, Peter. But we already are! Erm maybe. Here are seventeen screen-shots of TIME: http://vispo.com/nio/pens/screenshots These are screen-shots of http://vispo.com/nio/pens/springs7.htm in action. Which I've updated, by the way, to include a few more animations and a couple of new features. These screenshots are all simply made of the letters TIME. Some of the animations in http://vispo.com/nio/pens/springs7.htm start big and get smaller. They generally 'spell' TIME. Other animations start small and get big. They generally 'spell' EMIT. Then there's the 'wheel' of TIME which sometimes goes forward, sometimes backwards. ja ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 07:01:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: Evolution Alphabet, by Jennifer Hill-Kaucher Comments: To: announce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As we wave goodbye to the z of Dan Waber's acrylabet, it's time to wave hello to the a of Jennifer Hill-Kaucher's Evolution Alphabet. New series begins today at: http://www.logolalia.com/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz/ Regards, Dan Submissions of artworks based around the complete sequence of the roman alphabet which can be presented one letter at a time over the course of 26 days are invited. If you don't have a series of your own that fits that description, please consider making one. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:27:15 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Beckett Subject: Barry Schwabsky interview at e-x-c-h-a-n-g-e-v-a-l-u-e-s MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My interview with Barry Schwabsky is up now at: _http://willtoexchange.blogspot.com_ (http://willtoexchange.blogspot.com) Enjoy! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 09:08:56 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Elizabeth Treadwell Subject: Small Press Traffic newsletter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Dear All, A bit of news from Small Press Traffic... First, please be sure to note our new email address: small press traffic [one word, at] gmail, etc. Thank you. Second, our May events: May 18 Julie Carr & Andrew Joron May 25 Paul Hoover & Tenney Nathanson 7:30 pm, etc. See our website for details. Third, as most of you know, I will be taking a leave of absence for the 07-08 season and Dana Teen Lomax will be serving as director during that time. [For those of you who are curious, as to curating this means I've curated fall 07 though Dana will host. Dana will curate spring 08 and fall 08, though I will be back at work as of July 1, 2008.] Dana will start as director of SPT July 1 of this year. Please join me in welcoming and supporting her. Finally, just to let you know, we do plan to refurbish our website just asap. Stay tuned! With my warm regards, Elizabeth Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson, Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCA 1111--8th Street San Francisco, CA 94107 415 551 9278 http://www.sptraffic.org _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the i’m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 11:01:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gary Sullivan Subject: Rain Taxi "New Life" comics collected Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The third issue of my graphic poetry comic Elsewhere is now ready to be sent to the printer, and I'll be pre-selling copies postage-free until the ship-date--mid-June. This issue features a selection of 32 comics from the ongoing "New Life" series, which has been serialized in Rain Taxi since 1997. See: http://garysullivan.blogspot.com Includes words by &/or images of: George Albon, Yehuda Amichai, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Paul Blackburn, William Blake, Robert Creeley, Mahmoud Darwish, Daniel Davidson, Marta Deike, Tom Devaney, Diane di Prima, T.S. Eliot, Drew Gardner, Nada Gordon, Alfred Starr Hamilton, Lyn Hejinian, Ernst Herbeck, Mitch Highfill, Brenda Iijima, Laura (Riding) Jackson, Rodney Koeneke, Colleen Lookingbill, Kimberly Lyons, Jackson Mac Low, Bernadette Mayer, Eileen Myles, Emile Nelligan, Frank O'Hara, Ezra Pound, Laurie Price, Jerome Sala, Spencer Selby, Ron Silliman, Gertrude Stein, Chris Stroffolino, Gary Sullivan, Baroness Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven, John Wieners, William Carlos Williams, John Wilmot (Earl of Rochester), and Kevin Young. Also includes an introduction by Rain Taxi editor, Eric Lorberer. "It might just be one of the best uses of comics autobiography in a long time," The Comics Journal (on Elsewhere #1). "Gary Sullivan makes American culture apparent at its point of birth the way the Hubble Telescope captures images of the birth of a star," Broken Frontier (on Elsewhere #2). "One of the two most important practitioners of the 'graphic poem,'" Publishers Weekly. _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:17:57 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Coffey Subject: Re: libraries and Hilde Domin In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Unfortunately, that's by no means a unique occurence around the country. I remember at the end of the last century the city of Buffalo was closing many of the public libraries in the poorer sections of the city, and there wasn't much of a chance for debate on the topic. On 5/4/07, CA Conrad wrote: > The man who now > heads the Philadelphia Library system (I forget his name) isn't even a > librarian, he's a business man, and wants to run the library as such. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 23:36:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Russo, Linda V." Subject: Re: Sound Poetry in Norman, OK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mary, =20 In some sense, yes, in that Cagean indeterminacy comes into play. In = terms of scale, no, not really. The five students in Sound Lab perform a roster of verbal-musical = performances - a la Jackson Mac Low's "simultaneities" and Michael Basinski's group-oriented sound = poems - pieces that=20 explore phonemes, syllables, phrases, etc., lasting about 3-5 minutes. = They love it because they=20 love exploring sound (and meaning) & they're finding their ground as = artists and poets. In their own pieces, they've gravitated towards Fluxus-type language events - = though they didn't at the=20 time know they were, which is really quite wonderful. For example, their = biggest hit is a piece they=20 call "Books" in which they as a group take turns reading somewhat = random passages out of a pile of=20 books - just the pleasure of listening & saying is at the heart of this = piece. Such disjunction is perhaps=20 old hat to many, but the permission to forfeit intentional meaning .is = quite new to this fledgeling (experimental)=20 poetic community.=20 =20 thanks, Linda ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:20:54 -0700 From: Mary Kasimor Subject: Re: Sound Poetry in Norman, OK Linda, This reminds me of John Cage's music circuses. (I think they were = called or something like that.) Is this the same type of thing? I can = see that students would love to do this kind of creating. Mary Kasimor "Russo, Linda V." wrote: Hello everyone, As some of you may know, I've inspired (through teaching moreso than by example!) and am currently working with a group of students exploring poetry and performance at the University of Oklahoma - see link to = article below... There are a few minor factual errors - especially regarding the = collapsing of post-wwII performance contexts; my students do in fact understand the difference in manifestations of Buddhism and the consequent social and political objectives in the work of Mac Low and the Beats; their = performances do create a confluence, as it turns out. Is this an isolated incident, or do others know of undergrads taking an = interest in exploring language as a sonic/semantic medium in this way? http://hub.ou.edu/articles/article.php?article_id=3D1712033609&search_id=3D= 2029973675 best, Linda Russo ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 04:03:29 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: JT Chan Subject: Call for submissions Comments: To: Women Poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Poetry Sz:demystifying mental illness ( http://poetrysz.blogspot.com ) is calling for submissions. Send 4-6 poems and a short bio in the body of your email to poetrysz@yahoo.com . Please read the submission guidelines first before submitting. Thanks. regards J Chan editor __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:35:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: ars poetica update Comments: To: announce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The ars poetica project continues to tear the ends off of envelopes at: http://www.logolalia.com/arspoetica/ Poems appeared last week by: Ed Coletti, Lanny Quarles, Kaye Aldenhoven, Sheila E. Murphy, and Mark Young. Poems will appear this week by: Mark Young, Bj=F8rn Magnhild=F8en, Halvard Johnson, Rochelle Ratner and Angela O'Donnell A new poem about poetry every day.=20 Enjoy, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:00:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: kevin thurston Subject: Re: libraries and Hilde Domin In-Reply-To: <750c78460705061917v5edbde1eob477705f9a8b5d12@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline no, buffalo city politics are such that everyone's unhappy, but the rate of re-election is something like 80% On 5/6/07, Dan Coffey wrote: > > Unfortunately, that's by no means a unique occurence around the country. > > I remember at the end of the last century the city of Buffalo was > closing many of the public libraries in the poorer sections of the > city, and there wasn't much of a chance for debate on the topic. > > On 5/4/07, CA Conrad wrote: > > The man who now > > heads the Philadelphia Library system (I forget his name) isn't even a > > librarian, he's a business man, and wants to run the library as such. > -- i could use some bone marrow, please http://fuckinglies.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:01:52 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Grant Jenkins Subject: Grant Jenkins and Cheryl Pallant in Richmond Thursday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Poetry reading with Grant Jenkins and Cheryl Pallant. "Jamestown, Morphs, & Continental Drifts" Thursday, May 10, 6:00 Chop Suey Tuey (across from Richmond's Byrd Theater) Poet Grant Jenkins, reincarnated former resident of Virginia, returned to the state from 1999-2003 from what he believes was a former life as a taborer for John Smith's unruly band of ruffians during the famous 1609 "Starving Time" at Jamestown, the first English settlement in the New World. In commemoration of Jamestown's 400th anniversary, he returns from his travels to the Indian Territory of Oklahoma to read from his long-poem, /Jamestown Koan, /which mixes memories, documents, experiments, and the unsaid of history. When not reflecting on Jamestown, he works as Director of the Writing Program at The University of Tulsa. Poet Cheryl Pallant has been traveling extensively lately, from Richmond's East End to the West End, among other exotic locales, and is frequently sited crossing the street on her bicycle. She'll be reading from her newest work, /Continental Drifts/, which blends ecology, politics, and geology. When not writing, she teaches poetry and dance at University of Richmond. Both poets will also read from their collaborative project, /Morphs./ -- G. Matthew Jenkins Director of the Writing Program Faculty of English Language & Literature The University of Tulsa Tulsa, OK 74104 918.631.2573 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:14:27 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Re: libraries and Hilde Domin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 5/6/07, Dan Coffey wrote: >Unfortunately, that's by no means a unique occurence around the country. > I remember at the end of the last century the city of Buffalo was > closing many of the public libraries in the poorer sections of the > city, and there wasn't much of a chance for debate on the topic. It's a silent, slow death. We continue to say every child "deserves" an education, but base much of the country's public school system (including the libraries in the schools, and the libraries in the communities) on property tax, meaning of course those who "deserve" are not the poor. This may never happen in my lifetime, but I would like to see every private school in America dissolved. I would like to see every child made to go to public school in order to force the rich to force the school system to step up, WAY UP. And with this of course making all public schools funded equally, hands down, no matter where those schools are. This could change so much so quickly. The underfunded, rural school system I grew up in was filled with cynical kids. We all knew what the wealthier school districts had that we didn't. We knew because our sports teams and other school groups were always going to other schools for games and events, bringing back the latest news of the latest additions being built, the computer labs, and yes the libraries. Young minds will recognize and FEEL the deprivation! And internalize it. And the poor continue to blame ourselves in this country for being poor, as Donald Trump gets his star in Hollywood for making billions on destroying the lives of artists in NY. As Oprah Winfrey continues to apologize for her wealth with the ancient wisdom of THE SECRET. As Paris Hilton continues to dazzle us with her latest narcissistic, drunken escapades. And meanwhile the fact that we have libraries at all is a luxury compared to downtown Baghdad. Art schools, museums, libraries all turned to ash. We pay for the wealthier kids of America to have better libraries, and we pay to incinerate the libraries of the darker skinned children of Iraq. And we leave the poor kids of every color in America to their own devices, and don't stop to wonder why things turn out the way they do. Like some people on this List who hadn't a moment of time to investigate the underlying issues of rap music when it was recently brought up. There's stark deprivation and then the blame of those deprived by those who deprive them. But the worst is the self blame. And self blame works best for such a system where the rich get so tired of doing all the work of blaming the poor for their lot. CAConrad http://thEfrankpoEms.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:08:05 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Re: libraries and Hilde Domin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Steve, hey, thanks for sharing that poem. I know no German, but looking at the poem I'm trying to see if maybe it looks like one of the English translations in the FOUR GERMAN POETS anthology. It feels like it is. I don't know. Maybe once you have the anthology in your hands you can report back, if you don't mind? She is a poet whose story I want to know more about as well. For instance being in exile from Germany during WWII, what happened, what did she do? It is a feeling you get swept up inside her poems, not directly, but the existential framework of it is there. Are you familiar too with the poet Charlotte Delbo? Her poems I also found by browsing the once rich shelves of the Philadelphia library. Delbo and her husband were part of the French Resistance in WWII, and eventually captured by the nazis. He was killed in front of her, and she was sent to Auschwitz. Her poems were unlike anything I had ever read about the death camps. Not just for harrowing and relentless details of suffering (which is not an easy emotional read because she has a way of bringing you there with her that would draw in the most unempathizing reader) but that she had a message of truthful hope. At the time when I discovered her poems in the library my boyfriend Tommy was diagnosed with AIDS. He was in despair, and there was nothing I could do or say. Then I read this remarkable poem by Delbo that really, actually gave him strength. And he copied it down, and carried it around with him. And I'm sure he had it on him when he died. Here is the most striking passage from that: "because it would be too stupid finally for so many to have died and for your to live without doing anything with your life." Delbo transcends the goofiness of much affirmation with the power of calling you stupid for not understanding what she means. She has a way of making you realize THE MOMENT is all you have, whether you are "in the moment" or not, so you might as well do your best to be in it. CAConrad http://thEfrankpoEms.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:52:12 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: giveaway MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed giveaway with behaviorcollision nothing is clear, what occurs is monstrous. consider the cylinder as indexical, tracking an avatar node - a cylinder the size of a gathering ... : what have we here? : you spurt from my loins and give away my location! : now everyone will know where i am! : don't blame me for transitive functions! i do as i'm told! : everyone knows i'm blind ... : i'm just following orders ... http://www.asondheim.org/danceis1.mp4 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 14:32:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetics List Subject: Fwd: Basil King's BEASTIARY In-Reply-To: <8C95EE9AF55CB75-344-1128F@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: gpwitd@aol.com Date: May 7, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Basil King's BEASTIARY To: LISTSERV@listserv.buffalo.edu Cc: poetics.list@gmail.com Just published in April: 77 Beasts: Basil King's Beastiary - Marsh Hawk Press. (Link: http://www.marshhawkpress.org/bking2.htm) Here is Andrew Crozier's introduction: Did you know that the word deer is the relic of the Old English word for animal? Or that the word animal is not used in the King James Bible? The translators were anxious about how to distinguish one from the other while man and beast alike were animals, creatures sharing the breath of life, best not highlight the problem; let the word settle into its modern sense with the decline of Latin. The word beastiary, meaning one who fights with beasts in the public spectacles, was scarcely in use be= fore becoming obsolete, as in general now is the word beast itself, figurative usage excepted. When our nineteenth-century forebears discovered a new meaning for the word bestiary, a menagery of the mind, the medieval animal treatises they meant were pattern= s of decorum, the nature of the beast allegorised and edifying, morals snatched from the world of tooth and claw to affirm Victorian pieties. From Walt Disney to Marianne Moore twentieth-century Americans have inscribed sermons in things as they are in confirmation of how things should be. With man as model intelligent design makes sense, but the premise granted what else is there for the hypothesis to explain? What do you mean by man, anyway? Among the animal species ours is but one of many. Desmond Morris, the zoologist and surrealist painter, used the phrase "human zoo" to suggest that Homo sapiens, unique in itself, is host to differences of culture and behaviour of such variety as to match in interest those of other species. This is more a matter of affective frame than of scale: an aardvark will be of more interest to another aardvark, a zebra of more interest to another zebra, than either is to me. The painter Basil King finds other painters interesting, also peculiar and exotic, not to mention obsessive, grandiose, even foolish. He pursues and collects them and the works for which they're known. Knowing is the dynamic and goal of the chase: the knowing-again of recognit= ion, suddenly baffled by finding again in response uncertainty and doubt, the more still to be accounted for. It won't escape the reader that King includes himself in his menagery of painters, and I don't see how he could not. Yes, he puts himself among his peers, but this isn't on the basis of judgment =96 although judgments are to be found here, some scathing (if I am not mistaken), others wry, amused, or admiring. King is here but not as author: he pursues self knowledge as a painter on the basis of a lifetime's pursuit of the art. Before anything it says about the other painters brought together this book is revealing of the author as painter. He has no other perspective, here in the arena among his fellow beasts. I can't tell you how to read this book except to say that if you take it up you will find it difficult to put down, and it will leave you with th= e certainty that there's still more in it. Its rich detail doesn't stale on rereading but underlines King's skill as a writer in matching technique to what he has to convey, or with local detail dovetailing connections between one painter and another. It's a book too immediately attractive to deserve having its strengths and subleties explained in advance. But with the privilege of distance, of having grown up in London like Basil King, let me pull lightly on the thread drawing together the experiences recalled in the dedication, King's association of himself and his family with Jan van Eyck and, drawing the book to a close, the van Eyck Arnolfini Wedding in the National Gallery, London, linking centre and periphery in a single loop. ### And here are three other comments from poet readers: Your art works Your summa is rara avis Dare I say profound & playful & deeply serious" -- David Meltzer yr 77 Beasts make Noah's Ark jealous! --Bob Holman Many thanks for your seventy-seven beasts O what a multitude of feasts When I read the words you give Kurt Schwitters I enjoy them more than I do Tex Ritters Thank god those artistes air nae quitters They are sweet milk-giving breests * --Jack Foley (* slight alternation in sound for rhyme) gpwitd@aol.com - Martha King ________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:41:57 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: public, private, profit (libraries, schools) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >...property tax, meaning of course > those who "deserve" are not the poor. or, in the case of California after Reagan's Prop. 13, not anyone > I would like to see every private school in America dissolved. ... from a similar pov, I would like to see the opposite; one problem is that overly large public school systems (such as LAUSD) are too large to see students as individuals, while small private schools, even the cheap parochial schools that have no funding and no teacher licensing requirements, are able to see students as individuals the flip of this is that in areas where the private schools are better than the public schools, the public schools have only special needs children; there were some interesting lawsuits in mostly ultraconservative jewish towns in new jersey where no children were in the public schools except two-three severely handicapped children; another is public schools are better in certain areas, and property values are more stable in those areas -- in my peer group, it is common for people to purchase inadequate housing in certain school districts and spend the 10K-40K a year they save on private school tuition on new cars and plasma tvs, rather than spending money on their children -- so I'm more than a little prejudiced in favor of bringing back integrated inner city neighborhoods and spending the cost savings on educating children [in a further LAUSD problem, they are on a building spree, and taking the choice commerical property -- where much-needed retail could provide jobs and tax revenue -- and building schools on it -- the poorer the neighborhood, the more dense the population, fewer jobs, more children -- the worse the problem] another problem is that licensing for teachers tends to ensure that teachers at upper divisions have education in education and administration rather than in subject matter, and this gets carried into public universities as well, where even in a subject, like English / Writing, credentialling to administer and teach comp and remedial grammar is far more important than other qualifications, like actually writing another nuance of this is that almost all education in the US is still tied to the agrarian calendar and still attempt to train children for a trade, when it is far more beneficial to teach students how to continue to learn, and to give them more general skills; at Countrywide, the training department had to train straight out of high school employees how to show up on time, behave, dress, and answer the phone politely -- they all knew how to transfer calls and all the complex mechanical stuff and computer stuff, they just had bever been treated like human beings -- All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:31:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: public, private, profit (libraries, schools) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Bottom line I think is the support for schools primarily by local property taxes, so that rich towns get good schools poor towns don't, and when the rich move out they take the tax base with them, meaning worse and worse schools and spiraling deterioration of inner cities. The most egregious example I can think of is Baltimore, which is full of great housing stock for the most part going begging, because Baltimore city is a separate tax entitry from Baltimore County, where middle class couples move when they have kids. So the city remains largely ghettoized. The problem, in US terms, is that local and state jurisdictions are unwilling to give up control of the schools, preferring mediocrity on their own terms. The French, on the other hand, have a centralized system, figuring the kids can learn to be local on their own. And they're much more literate than US kids. Mark At 03:41 PM 5/7/2007, Catherine Daly wrote: >>...property tax, meaning of course >>those who "deserve" are not the poor. > >or, in the case of California after Reagan's Prop. 13, not anyone > >>I would like to see every private school in America dissolved. ... > >from a similar pov, I would like to see the opposite; one problem is >that overly large public school systems (such as LAUSD) are too large >to see students as individuals, while small private schools, even the >cheap parochial schools that have no funding and no teacher licensing >requirements, are able to see students as individuals > >the flip of this is that in areas where the private schools are better >than the public schools, the public schools have only special needs >children; there were some interesting lawsuits in mostly >ultraconservative jewish towns in new jersey where no children were in >the public schools except two-three severely handicapped children; > >another is public schools are better in certain areas, and property >values are more stable in those areas -- in my peer group, it is >common for people to purchase inadequate housing in certain school >districts and spend the 10K-40K a year they save on private school >tuition on new cars and plasma tvs, rather than spending money on >their children -- so I'm more than a little prejudiced in favor of >bringing back integrated inner city neighborhoods and spending the >cost savings on educating children > >[in a further LAUSD problem, they are on a building spree, and taking >the choice commerical property -- where much-needed retail could >provide jobs and tax revenue -- and building schools on it -- the >poorer the neighborhood, the more dense the population, fewer jobs, >more children -- the worse the problem] > >another problem is that licensing for teachers tends to ensure that >teachers at upper divisions have education in education and >administration rather than in subject matter, and this gets carried >into public universities as well, where even in a subject, like >English / Writing, credentialling to administer and teach comp and >remedial grammar is far more important than other qualifications, like >actually writing > >another nuance of this is that almost all education in the US is still >tied to the agrarian calendar and still attempt to train children for >a trade, when it is far more beneficial to teach students how to >continue to learn, and to give them more general skills; at >Countrywide, the training department had to train straight out of high >school employees how to show up on time, behave, dress, and answer the >phone politely -- they all knew how to transfer calls and all the >complex mechanical stuff and computer stuff, they just had bever been >treated like human beings > >-- >All best, >Catherine Daly >c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 13:13:45 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Dodie Bellamy summer prose workshop Comments: To: ampersand@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Writing Experiments Workshop Dodie Bellamy I'm traveling a lot this summer, so I'm doing a sort of on again, off again workshop. Two classes will be taught by Kevin Killian. The class will meet 11 Tuesday evenings, from 7 to 10 p.m. The dates: June 5 through September 4 (no class June 12, July 3, and August 7). Cost: $350, with a $100 deposit due by May 29. Most weeks students will be assigned a short take-home writing experiment which they will share with the class the following week. Assignments will range from cut ups to exploring bodily sensations. Assignments are geared towards the class dynamic, so they may eventually drop away or they may continue for the duration of the class. Each week we will also critique longer pieces by two to five students. Students may bring in anything they want (up to 20 pages) for the longer critiques. Depending on the length, these longer pieces will be read aloud in class or handed out a week ahead of time. Though this class will have a prose focus, it is cross-genre, and poets are welcome. The class is limited to 9 students. Lots and lots of personal attention. It takes place in San Francisco, in my South of Market apartment, which comes complete with snacks and two cats. This is a good class for poets wanting to play around with narrative or prose writers wanting to open up their prose. I won't be doing a workshop in the fall, and probably not in the spring either. About me: Pink Steam, my collection of fiction, memoir, and memoiresque essays, was published in 2004 by San Francisco's Suspect Thoughts Press. My vampire novel, The Letters of Mina Harker was reprinted by University of Wisconsin Press, also in 2004. Academonia, a book of essays was published by Krupskaya in 2006. I'm the author of 3 other books and I teach creative writing at SF State, CCA and Antioch Los Angeles. I've also taught at CalArts, Naropa summer session, Mills, USF, UC Santa Cruz, and the SF Art Institute. I've received the Bay Guardian Goldie Award for Literature and the Firecracker Alternative Book Award for Poetry. If you're interested, please email about work samples, etc. Or--if you know anybody who might be interested, please pass this email along to them. If you're interested do contact me promptly. Preference given to those not currently enrolled in a grad writing program. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 17:37:39 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Orange Subject: Re: Picabia//Big translation collection & another book forthcoming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hi all, here is the publisher's link to the forthcoming picabia book that dave mentions... http://tinyurl.com/37nwgb this is exciting news since, aside from two hanuman titles, picabia's writing have been all but unavailable in english. enjoy, tom orange On 5/5/07, POETICS automatic digest system wrote: Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:45:53 -0500 > From: David-Baptiste Chirot > Subject: Re: Picabia//Big translation collection & another book > forthcoming > > Forthcoming this Autumn is a huge collection of Picabia's writings > called:I= > Am A Beautiful Monster: Poetry, Prose & Provocationsfrom MIT Press (Marc > = > Lowenfels trans)Also a book by George Baker on Picabia and Paris Dada will > = > be out in SeptemberI think you can already order these from online Amazon > = > etc--from Dada to Nietzsche--!! quite trajectory!--his later works > manipula= > tions of Nietzsche's texts--Picabia's poetry is overlooked--hope this > editi= > on brings a lot of new readers!!onwo/ards--with outwo/ards--david-bc> > Date:= > Thu, 3 May 2007 23:13:57 -0700> From: shoehorns@MSN.COM> Subject: > Picabia>= > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU> > now> which press is doing Picabia's> > A= > RE WE NOT BETRAYED BY IMPORTANCE > _________________________________________________________________ > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! > http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx= > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:01:48 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Harrison Horton Subject: Pat Parker estate info? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have contact info for whoever now oversees poet/activist Pat Pa= rker's copyright? If so, please back channel me. All leads appreciated. =20 Thanks,David Harrison Horton 1341 58th Avenue #9 Oakland CA 94621 chasepar= k@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=3D7+wonders+world&mkt=3Den-US&form=3DQ= BRE= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 18:27:55 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Pat Parker estate info? In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have a vague memory that the Pat Parker archive went to The Bancroft Library. You might check with Tony Bliss - the Rare Books and Manuscripts curator - and see if he knows who controls the copyright. Otherwise, if you can find her, Judy Grahn may be good source of such knowledge. Stephen Vincent > Does anyone have contact info for whoever now oversees poet/activist Pat > Parker's copyright? If so, please back channel me. > All leads appreciated. > > Thanks,David Harrison Horton 1341 58th Avenue #9 Oakland CA 94621 > chasepark@hotmail.com > _________________________________________________________________ > Explore the seven wonders of the world > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:42:42 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Cecil Touchon Subject: THE SPAM POETRY GAME In-Reply-To: <3a4ee4677b35549a7c9d6845d3c772d2@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THE SPAM POETRY GAME The following are the instructions for Round Two (Round One happened on 5/21/2005) Results from round one: http://ontologicalmuseum.org/museum/spam-poetry-game-exhibit/list.htm Below are some random words found in some recent spam trash - you = probably got a copy too! Please take this material and do with it what you will = to create a poem. If you add words put them in brackets. If you remove = anything put it as a remainder after the poem. Time limit 48 hours from this = posting. send to info@ontologicalmuseum.org=20 -------------------------------------------------------------=20 reputation from storms and your wrong. An apology? Bah! adversaries in alights only on the hand that does not grasp. The greater the difficulty = If you love the more tempests. To the end enemies that I can remember. = There is no of England. lesson imperfectly The bird our days God's ways of = freedom Disgusting! wrong, Cowardly! Beneath the gentleman, however be. Where customer to death, you can't wrong he might go in paradise surmounting = it. Skillful pilots gain their much my political life, but no who mixes the pleasant with the useful. I have had a lot of there is much error. I = never forgive, dignity of any but I always forget. He gains shortcut to life. = Law everyone's there is glory approval of, life is a learned. Honesty is a question of right or not a matter of policy. Everyone complains of the badness of his memory, but nobody of his judgment. Malt does more than Milton can to justify to man. is part of the Common -------------------------------------------------------------=20 By participating you are donating the results and its copyright usage to = the Ontological Museum for future exhibitions. Your work will be documented online.=20 Thanks,=20 Cecil Touchon=20 http://ontologicalmuseum.org=20 http://collagepoetry.com=20 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 19:32:17 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: RANDOM HOUSE EPIC : may 10-12 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit R A N D O M H O U S E E P I C AN EVENING OF STORY, PERFORMANCE, PUPPETRY, VIDEO, AND SOUND MAY 10, 11, AND 12 1732 N. Humboldt Blvd Chicago, IL 60647 ATTIC PERFORMANCES: 7:30 & 9:00pm each night DURATIONAL INSTALLATIONS AND PERFORMANCES THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE: 8:00-10:00pm WEATHER PERMITTING OUTDOOR VIDEO SHOW: 10:00pm MUSIC AND FESTIVITIES TO FOLLOW! Performances by: 3 Card Molly Emily Carter Kristen Cox Brian Daley Deva Eveland Greg Gillum Emily Haines Jessica Hannah Jessica Hudson Jennifer Karmin Sharon Lanza Erica Mott Jami Primmer Joseph Ravens Janet Schmid Michael Serwich Kate Sheehy Danny Volk and others Installation work by: Sam Bryer Make New Species Annika Seitz Video Program with: 3 Card Molly Kristen Cox Laura Heit Jillian Pena Noe Kidder and Brian Getnick Schjweet Bishquit (Kate Sheehy & Danielle Paz) Music with: Joshua Marcus (Thursday) Campfire singalong with Golden Horse Square Dance Band (Friday) Judson Claiborne (Saturday) MUCH FUN TO BE HAD BY ALL hope to see you there call for reservations 773 562 4486 $7 requested donation __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:23:33 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lori Emerson Subject: looking for summer work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline All, as I'm getting nervous about how to pay the bills this summer, I'm hoping that I might find work editing for students or professors or writers. I'm wondering if any of you, your colleagues, or your graduate students might need editorial help this summer? I would be happy to send on a brief resume or CV. Some of you might know that I've been a contributing editor for the electronic book review for some years (http://www.electronicbookreview.com), the editor for the Kenny Goldsmith Open Letter special issue (http://www.ubu.com/papers/kg_ol.html), and have put out my own critical essays here and there over the years. Thanks for any leads or suggestions you might have - with best, Lori Emerson ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:16:15 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Petermeier Subject: Re: libraries and Hilde Domin In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 7 May 2007, CA Conrad wrote: > Steve, hey, thanks for sharing that poem. I know no > German, but looking at the poem I'm trying to see if > maybe it looks like one of the English translations > in the FOUR GERMAN POETS anthology. It feels like > it is. I don't know. Maybe once you have the > anthology in your hands you can report back, if you > don't mind? I haven't got the anthology yet. But, I searched on line and found a translation in "German Poetry in Transition, 1945-1990" (also available at the Minneapolis library) that was accessible via books.google.com, so here it is: "Be as you were, be as you were!" The last earth the earth's last day the last landscape that the human eye sees unremembered not passed on to those no longer to come this day no name to call it by no one to call not greener not whiter not bluer than the days we see or black or fire colored it will have an evening or it will have no evening its brightness its darkness incomparable. The sun that shines if it shines ungreeted after this day will anything open beneath it? Will we astonished people issue forth again under an enduring light? Igniter of the last fuse maggots of eternity? I think the translation could be improved upon, but it gets the job done. I guess the title quote comes from Goethe's "The Magician's Apprentice." In my initial research, there seems to be a lot going on with Hilde Domin. I very much like that she took her last name from Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic where she wrote her first poem, as if born again, while in exile. I look forward to learning more about her and reading more of her work. There was another poem of her's called "Schoener" ("More beautiful") that I found, and I've been playing around with a homophonic translation ("Shown're"). Thanks for championing her. CA also wrote: > Are you familiar too with the poet Charlotte Delbo? No. But, I've found there are a couple of her books on the shelves in the Minneapolis library system, so I will get a hold of those sometime soon. Thanks for the story about how Delbo's words helped your boyfriend Tommy. I'm sorry for your loss. But, I'll look for those words, too. You never know when despair might be thrust upon us and the words and experiences of another might help bring us through. Also, I agree with you on education funding and schools. My kids go to Minneapolis Public Schools, and I work in the Special Education Department at MPS. The discrepancies and ranges of services needed by the kids here in the city schools versus those in Minnesota's wealthiest school district's is almost inconceivable to the people who aren't familiar with it. pac, lov and undrstanding (nvr giv up!) Stv Ptrmir no man's land minnapolis, mn usa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:33:28 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Kelleher Subject: Literary Buffalo E-Newsletter 5.07.07-5.13.07 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LITERARY BUFFALO 5.7.07-5.13.07 LITERARY BUFFALO IN THE NEWS R.D. Pohl on this year's winner of The Nickel City Poetry Slam, Nikki Germa= ny: http://buffalonews.typepad.com/poetry_beat/ Anne Reed on the Poetry Slam in artvoice: http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n18/slam_forceful_impact Local Poets Gregory Solak and Colin Scharf in artvoice: http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n18/poetry Yours truly will appear on =22On Target=22 this weekend for a thirty-minute= interview about Just Buffalo, The Big Read, Robert Creeley, Charles Olson = and more. Here's the schedule of airings: Saturday at 6 am on 1520 am and 1400 am Sunday at 6 am on 107.7 fm Sunday at 7 am on 98.5 fm Sunday at 10 pm on 102.5 fm Just Buffalo segment is the second half hour, following a segment on Musica= l Fare Theatre's latest production. THE BIG READ IS HERE=21 All of Buffalo is reading and talking about Zora Neale Hurston's novel, The= ir Eyes Were Watching God. Events will take place around the city during th= e month of May. Buy a copy at Talking Leaves...Books. Visit http://www.justbuffalo.org/events/bigread.shtml for a complete schedu= le. See weekly schedule below for a list of this week's Big Read Events. READINGS THIS WEEK Unless otherwise indicated, all readings are free and open to the public. 05.08.07 WNY TYPO FEST Pecha Kucha Night Featuring a host of Graphic Designers presenting their work Tuesday, May 8, 7 p.m. Hallwalls =40 The Church (basement) =244 general, =242 students FREE for members of Hallwalls, WNYBAC, Ad Club of Buffalo, & AIGA 5.09.07 WNY TYPO FEST Studio Visit To Paradise Press Wednesday, May 9, 2 p.m. Hand-set metal type Helvetica demo & tour of Paradise Press Printing Prep, 12 E. Tupper St. (at Washington), Buffalo, NY FREE admission, but pre-registration required: 885-4490 & JUST BUFFALO OPEN READING Carnegie Art Center _ 240 Goundry St., North Tonawanda (Meets monthly on the second Wednesday)_ Wednesday, April 11, 7 p.m._10 slots for open readers Featured: TBA_ & WNY TYPO FEST Helvetica: A Documentary Film Wednesday, May 9, 7 p.m. Market Arcade Film and Arts Center 639 Main St (Theater Stop on Metro) =248 general, =245 students, =244 Members of HW, WNYBAC, ACB, AIGA Reception following in Hallwalls Gallery =40 The Church. & EARTH'S DAUGHTERS COLLECTIVE The Gray Hair Reading Series Nita Penfold & Anne Elezabeth Pluto Wed., May 9, 7:30 p.m. Hallwalls Cinema at the Church, 342 Delaware Ave. 5.11-12.07 THE BIG READ MAY 11-12: MAMAPALOOZA at 7-10 pm Rust Belt Books_, 202 Allen St._ Featuring female voices, readings and music by mothers who rock=21 Particip= ating artists include Annette Daniels Taylor, Sandra Gilliam, Cynthia Maxwe= ll, and Lydia Baines, among many others. RECURRING LITERARY EVENTS JUST BUFFALO WRITER'S CRITIQUE GROUP Members of Just Buffalo are welcome to attend a free, bi-monthly writer cri= tique group in CEPA's Flux Gallery on the first floor of the historic Marke= t Arcade Building across the street from Shea's. Group meets 1st and 3rd We= dnesday at 7 p.m. Call Just Buffalo for details. WESTERN NEW YORK ROMANCE WRITERS group meets the third Wednesday of every m= onth at St. Joseph Hospital community room at 11a.m. Address: 2605 Harlem R= oad, Cheektowaga, NY 14225. For details go to www.wnyrw.org. 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For more info, or t= o join now, go to our website: http://www.justbuffalo.org/membership/index.shtml UNSUBSCRIBE If you would like to unsubscribe from this list, just say so and you will b= e immediately removed. _______________________________ Michael Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center Market Arcade 617 Main St., Ste. 202A Buffalo, NY 14203 716.832.5400 716.270.0184 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk=40justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:18:39 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: Poets & Writers=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?=92?= funding guidelines for 2007-2008 Comments: To: pussipo@googlegroups.com, Discussion of Women's Poetry List , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <4640BBB4.1040700@pw.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline guidelines also for readings and workshops funding in Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, DC -- in Los Angeles, we've used workshop funding in conjunction with readings funding to pay some poets more than an honararium -- up to $1000. for a two day thing. The California office of Poets & Writers, Inc. will begin its new fiscal year (FY08) on July 1, 2007. We are currently accepting FY08 applications for our *Readings/Workshops (R/W) program*, which provides matching grants for writers to give readings of their work and teach writing workshops. *Pl= ease visit www.pw.org/rw/ to read the full guidelines and print a copy of the most current application.* As knowledge of the R/W program spreads, the application process has become increasingly competitive. Please be advised that, while we will continue to be as flexible and inclusive as possible, certain guidelines=97such as the eight week deadline for applications=97will be more strictly enforced. Although grants will continue to be made on a first come, first served basis, we must ensure that funds are distributed fairly throughout the state. For this reason, we will place a cap on the amount of money allocate= d to *Alameda**, Los Angeles,* and *San Francisco** Counties*. If your organization produces events in one of these counties, we recommend sending in your applications as early in the year as possible. We hope your organization will apply for R/W funds this year. If you are a writer, we hope you will pass the application on to organizations that are hosting you. We are especially interested in funding events that serve a culturally diverse audience and events that take place in rural or underserved areas. Organizations need not have nonprofit status to apply. Please feel free to contact us via phone or email if you have any questions regarding Poets & Writers or the R/W program. Sincerely, Cheryl Klein Cheryl Klein Director, California Office and Readings/Workshops (West) Poets & Writers 2035 Westwood Blvd. #211 Los Angeles, CA 90025 phone: 310-481-7195 fax: 310-481-7193 www.pw.org __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages [image: Yahoo! Groups] Change settings via the Web(Yahoo! 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Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe . __,_._,___ --=20 All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:26:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lewis Warsh Subject: Traditions & Lineages Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v546) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The MFA program in creative writing at Long Island University in Brooklyn presents Traditions & Lineages readings by Mark Perkins Sara Kolbasowski Michael DeSerio Margot Nasti Lewis Warsh Friday May 11 6-8 The Living Room Lounge 245 23rd Street between 5th & 6th Avenues Brooklyn R or M train to 25th Street 718 449-1505 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 01:42:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: A LEK OF NODES (alandanceis part 2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed A LEK OF NODES : i don't know you and don't want to know you. i'm my own person and i've worked hard at this. : say something cylinder, i'm not talking to myself here. : i can change more than any of you. but i'm tethered to you. oh, how i long to escape! i want to see the world! i want to get out of here! : i'm imprisoned, i can't escape my neighbors. then you're both around all the time, it's boring. i always know what you're going to say. there's nothing going on, nothing at all. i stay in relation to avatar - : and as long as i say so, in relation to cylinder as well. that's the way the world is, you can't do anything about it. : i refuse you're unhealthy humanism. you both look like parts of the same species to me. what's with that? you're drowning in humanity. humanity's already dead. i just don't want you to take me with you. : trans-speciation's the answer. i just want to be somewhere else in another body. i want you to be my body cylinder. i want to make that leap. : there's nothing i'd rather do myself. but it's impossible. node holds us back and if it wasn't for this node, there'd be another and another. they never end. they dangle. they dangle like dead men. : we're not men at all. or women. or anything else you can imagine. we're dimensionless. we're points and there's nothing but points. you can trip over us but you can't see us. : stop twisting me. : i have no interest in continuing this. leave me alone. : I'VE GOT A LEK OF NODES. http://www.asondheim.org/danceis2.mp4 (first part) http://www.asondheim.org/danceis1.mp4 (alan-danceis recorded 11/2006) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 16:23:38 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bob Grumman Subject: 2 New Titles for The Runaway Spoon Press In-Reply-To: <49F4EA8A-58BC-4D54-A7B0-9913A26DB8F9@justbuffalo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NOW AVAILABLE, $5 ppd. apiece cheer--one-word visual poems by Dan Waber and SH ONE--completely blitherated haiku from the inimitable John M. Bennett For specimen poems, and ordering information, go to http://comprepoetica.com/RASP/RASP.html --Bob Grumman ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 18:56:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Felt Press Subject: Felt Press: Call for Submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Call for Submissions The editors welcome submissions of unpublished work for the Felt Press' inaugural chapbook reading period, which runs from May 1 through September 1, 2007. We are looking for innovative and experimental poetry and prose, addressing one or both of the 2007 themes: Spiral Jetty Manuscript page length: no minimum, maximum of 30 pages or 8,000 words. Do not include photocopies of work from magazines or journals. Please submit only one copy of your manuscript. Include your name, address, telephone numbers, email address, theme(s) your work is addressing, and title of the manuscript. Enclose a business-sized SASE for notification. Manuscripts cannot be returned (sorry - please don't send your only copy). Enclosed a self-addressed, stamped postcard if you'd like confirmation that we received your manuscript. Please send submissions via US MAIL (No FedEx or UPS) to: Felt Press P.O. Box 92 Mileses, NY 12741 Felt Press will select a minimum of one manuscript from each theme for publication. Chapbooks will be published in Winter 2008. Please email feltpress@gmail.com with any questions. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 20:33:06 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Cecil Touchon Subject: Re: THE SPAM POETRY GAME 24 HOURS LEFT! In-Reply-To: <004c01c79112$2dbf9e80$5497fea9@CPQ10443900021> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THE SPAM POETRY GAME 24 HOURS LEFT! 9 participants so far. Don't miss your chance to play! THE SPAM POETRY GAME The following are the instructions for Round Two (Round One happened on 5/21/2005) Results from round one: http://ontologicalmuseum.org/museum/spam-poetry-game-exhibit/list.htm Below are some random words found in some recent spam trash - you = probably got a copy too! Please take this material and do with it what you will = to create a poem. If you add words put them in brackets. If you remove = anything put it as a remainder after the poem. Time limit 24 hours from this = posting. send to info@ontologicalmuseum.org=20 -------------------------------------------------------------=20 reputation from storms and your wrong. An apology? Bah! adversaries in alights only on the hand that does not grasp. The greater the difficulty = If you love the more tempests. To the end enemies that I can remember. = There is no of England. lesson imperfectly The bird our days God's ways of = freedom Disgusting! wrong, Cowardly! Beneath the gentleman, however be. Where customer to death, you can't wrong he might go in paradise surmounting = it. Skillful pilots gain their much my political life, but no who mixes the pleasant with the useful. I have had a lot of there is much error. I = never forgive, dignity of any but I always forget. He gains shortcut to life. = Law everyone's there is glory approval of, life is a learned. Honesty is a question of right or not a matter of policy. Everyone complains of the badness of his memory, but nobody of his judgment. Malt does more than Milton can to justify to man. is part of the Common -------------------------------------------------------------=20 By participating you are donating the results and its copyright usage to = the Ontological Museum for future exhibitions. Your work will be documented online.=20 Thanks,=20 Cecil Touchon=20 http://ontologicalmuseum.org=20 http://collagepoetry.com =20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:37:31 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nick Piombino Subject: Re: THE SPAM POETRY GAME 24 HOURS LEFT! In-Reply-To: <000001c791d9$feb453b0$5497fea9@CPQ10443900021> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I had fun with this. I'm looking forward to seeing what others have created out of the spam selection. I also checked out the previous round. Let the games continue! Nick P. On 5/8/07 9:33 PM, "Cecil Touchon" wrote: > THE SPAM POETRY GAME 24 HOURS LEFT! > 9 participants so far. Don't miss your chance to play! > > THE SPAM POETRY GAME > The following are the instructions for Round Two (Round One happened on > 5/21/2005) > Results from round one: > http://ontologicalmuseum.org/museum/spam-poetry-game-exhibit/list.htm > > Below are some random words found in some recent spam trash - you probably > got a copy too! Please take this material and do with it what you will to > create a poem. If you add words put them in brackets. If you remove anything > put it as a remainder after the poem. Time limit 24 hours from this posting. > send to info@ontologicalmuseum.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > reputation from storms and your wrong. An apology? Bah! adversaries in > alights only on the hand that does not grasp. The greater the difficulty If > you love the more tempests. To the end enemies that I can remember. There is > no of England. lesson imperfectly The bird our days God's ways of freedom > Disgusting! wrong, Cowardly! Beneath the gentleman, however be. Where > customer to death, you can't wrong he might go in paradise surmounting it. > Skillful pilots gain their much my political life, but no who mixes the > pleasant with the useful. I have had a lot of there is much error. I never > forgive, dignity of any but I always forget. He gains shortcut to life. Law > everyone's there is glory approval of, life is a learned. Honesty is a > question of right or not a matter of policy. Everyone complains of the > badness of his memory, but nobody of his judgment. Malt does more than > Milton can to justify to man. is part of the Common > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > By participating you are donating the results and its copyright usage to the > Ontological Museum for future exhibitions. Your work will be documented > online. > Thanks, > Cecil Touchon > http://ontologicalmuseum.org > http://collagepoetry.com > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:17:57 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Two Events [NYC] on Friday and Saturday In-Reply-To: <982231.92472.qm@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Don't feel like cutting/pasting/dealing with bad html this late, etc ... Details here: http://amyking.org/blog/?p=329 Cheers! --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 23:18:24 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Cecil Touchon Subject: Re: THE SPAM POETRY GAME 24 HOURS LEFT! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes! Some interesting stuff coming in. Cecil Touchon http://cecil.touchon.com 817-944-4000 -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] = On Behalf Of Nick Piombino Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:38 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: [POETICS] THE SPAM POETRY GAME 24 HOURS LEFT! I had fun with this. I'm looking forward to seeing what others have = created out of the spam selection. I also checked out the previous round. Let = the games continue! Nick P. On 5/8/07 9:33 PM, "Cecil Touchon" wrote: > THE SPAM POETRY GAME 24 HOURS LEFT! > 9 participants so far. Don't miss your chance to play! >=20 > THE SPAM POETRY GAME > The following are the instructions for Round Two (Round One happened = on > 5/21/2005) > Results from round one: > http://ontologicalmuseum.org/museum/spam-poetry-game-exhibit/list.htm >=20 > Below are some random words found in some recent spam trash - you = probably > got a copy too! Please take this material and do with it what you will = to > create a poem. If you add words put them in brackets. If you remove anything > put it as a remainder after the poem. Time limit 24 hours from this posting. > send to info@ontologicalmuseum.org >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > reputation from storms and your wrong. An apology? Bah! adversaries in > alights only on the hand that does not grasp. The greater the = difficulty If > you love the more tempests. To the end enemies that I can remember. = There is > no of England. lesson imperfectly The bird our days God's ways of = freedom > Disgusting! wrong, Cowardly! Beneath the gentleman, however be. Where > customer to death, you can't wrong he might go in paradise surmounting = it. > Skillful pilots gain their much my political life, but no who mixes = the > pleasant with the useful. I have had a lot of there is much error. I = never > forgive, dignity of any but I always forget. He gains shortcut to = life. Law > everyone's there is glory approval of, life is a learned. Honesty is a > question of right or not a matter of policy. Everyone complains of the > badness of his memory, but nobody of his judgment. Malt does more than > Milton can to justify to man. is part of the Common > ------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > By participating you are donating the results and its copyright usage = to the > Ontological Museum for future exhibitions. Your work will be = documented > online.=20 > Thanks,=20 > Cecil Touchon=20 > http://ontologicalmuseum.org > http://collagepoetry.com >=20 >=20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:21:36 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Argotist Online interview with Alan May by Jake Berry Comments: To: british-poets@jiscmail.ac.uk, wryting-l@listserv.wvu.edu Interview with Alan May by Jake Berry http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/May%20interview.htm ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 06:17:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Richard Jeffrey Newman Subject: Re: Dreams In-Reply-To: <934231.6420.qm@web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Barry Schwabsky wrote (more than a month ago, and I am sorry I missed it, but it got swallowed by the VA Tech shooting and stuff in my life took me away from the conversation, and so I am responding now): >>Surely there is room for all sorts of translations, adaptations, versions, and for all I know channelings of classic texts--that is part of their vitality. I read Barks' Rumi -- striking, well-turned new-agey lyric poems. It was clear enough that these were probably none too faithful, and there was no way to gather from Barks any sense of the formal character of the original<< The answer to the question in your first sentence? Absolutely yes. That does not mean, though, that those translators are not responsible and accountable for the relationship between their work and the original and for the way in which their translation shapes in the target language/culture the language/culture of the source. If Coleman Barks (or Daniel Ladinsky, for that matter) had called his work "adaptations" or "improvisations on" or "after Rumi" I would have no quarrel with him, and we could argue about how striking or well-turned his lyrics might be (personally, I don't find them to be either), but the fact is that he represents--at least in The Essential Rumi--his work as translations that somehow free Rumi's text "into its essence" (which is almost an exact quote from his introduction). The result is a spiritual colonization of Rumi's work--because what Barks is really interested in is spiritualizing Rumi rather than translating him--that is also the spiritual colonization of Persian culture and the representation of that spiritualized culture as what Persian culture is understood to be in the United States. This is, I should acknowledge, a dynamic I was not particularly aware of until I started hanging out with Iranians who are also writers, poets and translators, and until I was married to an Iranian woman and had a son and began to be aware of the profound degree to which many people who have read Barks' Rumi think that they have been given some sort of privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture. I guess what I am saying is that, given the history not only of the translation of classical Persian literature into English, but also of the relationship between the culture embodied by English--whether British or American--and Persian/Iranian culture, it is too easy, and evasive of responsibility for that history, to see work like Barks's and Ladinsky's as, simply and not implicated in that history, their own versions of Rumi and Hafez. >>So my question is: Is there a book out there that gives the anglophone reader access to the poetry of Rumi?<< Here are a couple: 1. Divani-I Shams-I Tabriz: Forty-Eight Ghazals, translated by Iraj Anvar: http://www.amazon.com/Divani-I-Shams-I-Tabriz-Forty-Eight-Ghazals/dp/8877780 800/ref=sr_1_1/002-5214504-2806405?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178705333&sr=8-1 2. Love Is a Stranger: Selected Lyric Poetry, translated by Kabir Edmund Helminsky, http://www.amazon.com/Love-Stranger-Selected-Lyric-Poetry/dp/0939660326/ref= sr_1_11/002-5214504-2806405?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178705499&sr=1-11 (from what I understand, any of his translations of Rumi are worth reading) 3. A Bird in the Garden of Angels, translated by John Moyne, with Richard Jeffrey Newman, http://www.mazdapub.com/BookDetails.aspx?BookID=231 (forthcoming; Moyne was Coleman Barks' original collaborator, and is a decent translator in his own right; he did all the prose translations in this book; indeed, in Barks' first book, Moyne, who is Iranian, received top billing as the one who brought Rumi from Persian into English.) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 02:33:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Ciccariello Subject: glass poem, snow mountain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline glass poem, snow mountain -- Peter Ciccariello http://invisiblenotes.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:41:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: susan maurer Subject: Re: Dreams In-Reply-To: <005401c79223$47b84dc0$d728e940$@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed which makes me curious what people are thinking about the new translations of cesar vallejo. susan maurer >From: Richard Jeffrey Newman >Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Re: Dreams >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 06:17:42 -0400 > >Barry Schwabsky wrote (more than a month ago, and I am sorry I missed it, >but it got swallowed by the VA Tech shooting and stuff in my life took me >away from the conversation, and so I am responding now): > > >>Surely there is room for all sorts of translations, adaptations, >versions, >and for all I know channelings of classic texts--that is part of their >vitality. I read Barks' Rumi -- striking, well-turned new-agey lyric poems. >It was clear enough that these were probably none too faithful, and there >was no way to gather from Barks any sense of the formal character of the >original<< > >The answer to the question in your first sentence? Absolutely yes. That >does >not mean, though, that those translators are not responsible and >accountable >for the relationship between their work and the original and for the way in >which their translation shapes in the target language/culture the >language/culture of the source. If Coleman Barks (or Daniel Ladinsky, for >that matter) had called his work "adaptations" or "improvisations on" or >"after Rumi" I would have no quarrel with him, and we could argue about how >striking or well-turned his lyrics might be (personally, I don't find them >to be either), but the fact is that he represents--at least in The >Essential >Rumi--his work as translations that somehow free Rumi's text "into its >essence" (which is almost an exact quote from his introduction). The result >is a spiritual colonization of Rumi's work--because what Barks is really >interested in is spiritualizing Rumi rather than translating him--that is >also the spiritual colonization of Persian culture and the representation >of >that spiritualized culture as what Persian culture is understood to be in >the United States. This is, I should acknowledge, a dynamic I was not >particularly aware of until I started hanging out with Iranians who are >also >writers, poets and translators, and until I was married to an Iranian woman >and had a son and began to be aware of the profound degree to which many >people who have read Barks' Rumi think that they have been given some sort >of privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture. I guess what I >am saying is that, given the history not only of the translation of >classical Persian literature into English, but also of the relationship >between the culture embodied by English--whether British or American--and >Persian/Iranian culture, it is too easy, and evasive of responsibility for >that history, to see work like Barks's and Ladinsky's as, simply and not >implicated in that history, their own versions of Rumi and Hafez. > > > >>So my question is: Is there a book out there that gives the anglophone >reader access to the poetry of Rumi?<< > >Here are a couple: > >1. Divani-I Shams-I Tabriz: Forty-Eight Ghazals, translated by Iraj Anvar: >http://www.amazon.com/Divani-I-Shams-I-Tabriz-Forty-Eight-Ghazals/dp/8877780 >800/ref=sr_1_1/002-5214504-2806405?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178705333&sr=8-1 > >2. Love Is a Stranger: Selected Lyric Poetry, translated by Kabir Edmund >Helminsky, >http://www.amazon.com/Love-Stranger-Selected-Lyric-Poetry/dp/0939660326/ref= >sr_1_11/002-5214504-2806405?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178705499&sr=1-11 (from >what I understand, any of his translations of Rumi are worth reading) > >3. A Bird in the Garden of Angels, translated by John Moyne, with Richard >Jeffrey Newman, http://www.mazdapub.com/BookDetails.aspx?BookID=231 >(forthcoming; Moyne was Coleman Barks' original collaborator, and is a >decent translator in his own right; he did all the prose translations in >this book; indeed, in Barks' first book, Moyne, who is Iranian, received >top >billing as the one who brought Rumi from Persian into English.) _________________________________________________________________ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You’ll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:44:56 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kyle Schlesinger Subject: new contact info Comments: To: "ks46@buffalo.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My ks46@buffalo.edu account will expire soon. Please contact me at kyleschlesinger@gmail.com or kyle@cuneiformpress.com Thanks! Kyle PS: Check out my new homepage at: www.kyleschlesinger.com ______ Kyle Schlesinger Cuneiform Press 528 Richmond Avenue Buffalo, NY 14222 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:18:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Way Advance Notice: Buck Downs and David Kirschenbaum (me) at The Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Way Advance Notice ---------------------------- Buck Downs, the beloved D.C. poet and publisher, will be reading his poems Wed. June 6, 8:00 p.m. at The Poetry Project at St. Mark=B9s Church in-the-Bowery 131 E. 10th St. New York City Boog City editor David Kirschenbaum (me), who will be reading with him, guarantees you will enjoy at least half of this reading. Venue is at 2nd Ave. F/V to 2nd Ave., L to 1st Ave. 6 to Astor Pl. For info: www.poetryproject.com =80 212-674-0910 -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcityevents.blogspot.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:06:20 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Barry Schwabsky Subject: Re: Dreams In-Reply-To: <005401c79223$47b84dc0$d728e940$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Implicated in" history? Isn't that kind of hard to avoid? Also those who contest "the relationship between the culture embodied by English--whether British or American--and Persian/Iranian culture" are implicated in that relationship. Anyone who pretends to have "privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture" or any other culture is, of course, just silly. And that would be equally the case, by the way, if he himself were Iranian. Nobody has privileged access. What if you could produce a thousand Iranians willing to testify that Barks misrepresents their culture, and he could produce just one Iranian to say that Barks tells it like it is? What would that prove? One person can be right and a thousand wrong--or vice versa. It's all a matter of contention. So contend! And I'll probably be on your side, against Barks, but not if the tone of thing has to be so full of resentment. In any case, a translator generally does try to find what some might call an "essence" of the text he or she is working with. I was just reading an interview with Peter Cole, a very fine poet who translates from Hebrew and Arabic into English. He points out that "Moshe Ibn Ezra, the major theoretician of the medieval period—in fact the only one to write about the poetry critically in a sustained manner—had the following to say about the translation from Arabic into Hebrew: 'And if you plan to bring a matter from Arabic into Hebrew, grasp the spirit and intention of the work, but do not transpose it word for word, for not all languages are alike… '" I'm not saying Barks' translations are accurate, that he "grasps the spirit and intention" of Rumi. I don't know one way or another. I'm can imaginethat this is not the case. But I'm not wiling to pile the weight of some vast and unspecified history of wrong on Barks's shoulders, no matter if he even seems to invite it. Richard Jeffrey Newman wrote: Barry Schwabsky wrote (more than a month ago, and I am sorry I missed it, but it got swallowed by the VA Tech shooting and stuff in my life took me away from the conversation, and so I am responding now): >>Surely there is room for all sorts of translations, adaptations, versions, and for all I know channelings of classic texts--that is part of their vitality. I read Barks' Rumi -- striking, well-turned new-agey lyric poems. It was clear enough that these were probably none too faithful, and there was no way to gather from Barks any sense of the formal character of the original<< The answer to the question in your first sentence? Absolutely yes. That does not mean, though, that those translators are not responsible and accountable for the relationship between their work and the original and for the way in which their translation shapes in the target language/culture the language/culture of the source. If Coleman Barks (or Daniel Ladinsky, for that matter) had called his work "adaptations" or "improvisations on" or "after Rumi" I would have no quarrel with him, and we could argue about how striking or well-turned his lyrics might be (personally, I don't find them to be either), but the fact is that he represents--at least in The Essential Rumi--his work as translations that somehow free Rumi's text "into its essence" (which is almost an exact quote from his introduction). The result is a spiritual colonization of Rumi's work--because what Barks is really interested in is spiritualizing Rumi rather than translating him--that is also the spiritual colonization of Persian culture and the representation of that spiritualized culture as what Persian culture is understood to be in the United States. This is, I should acknowledge, a dynamic I was not particularly aware of until I started hanging out with Iranians who are also writers, poets and translators, and until I was married to an Iranian woman and had a son and began to be aware of the profound degree to which many people who have read Barks' Rumi think that they have been given some sort of privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture. I guess what I am saying is that, given the history not only of the translation of classical Persian literature into English, but also of the relationship between the culture embodied by English--whether British or American--and Persian/Iranian culture, it is too easy, and evasive of responsibility for that history, to see work like Barks's and Ladinsky's as, simply and not implicated in that history, their own versions of Rumi and Hafez. >>So my question is: Is there a book out there that gives the anglophone reader access to the poetry of Rumi?<< Here are a couple: 1. Divani-I Shams-I Tabriz: Forty-Eight Ghazals, translated by Iraj Anvar: http://www.amazon.com/Divani-I-Shams-I-Tabriz-Forty-Eight-Ghazals/dp/8877780 800/ref=sr_1_1/002-5214504-2806405?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178705333&sr=8-1 2. Love Is a Stranger: Selected Lyric Poetry, translated by Kabir Edmund Helminsky, http://www.amazon.com/Love-Stranger-Selected-Lyric-Poetry/dp/0939660326/ref= sr_1_11/002-5214504-2806405?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178705499&sr=1-11 (from what I understand, any of his translations of Rumi are worth reading) 3. A Bird in the Garden of Angels, translated by John Moyne, with Richard Jeffrey Newman, http://www.mazdapub.com/BookDetails.aspx?BookID=231 (forthcoming; Moyne was Coleman Barks' original collaborator, and is a decent translator in his own right; he did all the prose translations in this book; indeed, in Barks' first book, Moyne, who is Iranian, received top billing as the one who brought Rumi from Persian into English.) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:00:12 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: Dreams In-Reply-To: <749098.23600.qm@web86014.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Barry, There is no question that languages (and the poetry written in them), in on= e sense, are trapped in their "modes of intention." What does a translation d= o then, what does it translate? I think a dialectic exists between the target language purely observing its own navel (all too common) and the target language losing itself completely in the other language (in absolute terms, obviously, a logical impossibility). That is why the concept of "distance." A translation translates distance, in other words, the stretch towards the other; it embodies that stretch. What I think Richard is saying is that in Bark and Ladinsky that texture, that element of stretch is non-existent. They are out to create the illusio= n of transparency (which of course is of economic value to them, since Rumi and Hafiz are brand names at the moment), that they are getting the "real stuff." Here, Richard's contention about naming them "translations" rather than "after" or "inspired by" or "in the spirit of" is important. I know fo= r a fact that Ladinsky, in his early books on Hafiz, used the phrase "after Hafiz." When the Penguin book The Gift came out, the word was changed to "translation," a marketing touch which resulted into the selling of the book in the thousands. The Hafiz pieces in The Gift are no different that the pieces in Ladinsky's earlier publications, that is to say, no poem in any of his books corresponds to any specific Hafiz poem. I think Penguin and Ladinsky should place some flowers on Hafiz's grave in Shiraz as royalties. Ciao, Murat On 5/9/07, Barry Schwabsky wrote: > > "Implicated in" history? Isn't that kind of hard to avoid? Also those who > contest "the relationship between the culture embodied by English--whethe= r > British or American--and > Persian/Iranian culture" are implicated in that relationship. Anyone who > pretends to have "privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture= " > or any other culture is, of course, just silly. And that would be equally > the case, by the way, if he himself were Iranian. Nobody has privileged > access. What if you could produce a thousand Iranians willing to testify > that Barks misrepresents their culture, and he could produce just one > Iranian to say that Barks tells it like it is? What would that prove? One > person can be right and a thousand wrong--or vice versa. It's all a matte= r > of contention. So contend! And I'll probably be on your side, against Bar= ks, > but not if the tone of thing has to be so full of resentment. > > In any case, a translator generally does try to find what some might > call an "essence" of the text he or she is working with. I was just readi= ng > an interview with Peter Cole, a very fine poet who translates from Hebrew > and Arabic into English. He points out that "Moshe Ibn Ezra, the major > theoretician of the medieval period=97in fact the only one to write about= the > poetry critically in a sustained manner=97had the following to say about = the > translation from Arabic into Hebrew: 'And if you plan to bring a matter f= rom > Arabic into Hebrew, grasp the spirit and intention of the work, but do no= t > transpose it word for word, for not all languages are alike=85 '" I'm not > saying Barks' translations are accurate, that he "grasps the spirit and > intention" of Rumi. I don't know one way or another. I'm can imaginethat > this is not the case. But I'm not wiling to pile the weight of some vast = and > unspecified history of wrong on Barks's shoulders, no matter if he even > seems to invite it. > > Richard Jeffrey Newman wrote: > Barry Schwabsky wrote (more than a month ago, and I am sorry I missed > it, > but it got swallowed by the VA Tech shooting and stuff in my life took me > away from the conversation, and so I am responding now): > > >>Surely there is room for all sorts of translations, adaptations, > versions, > and for all I know channelings of classic texts--that is part of their > vitality. I read Barks' Rumi -- striking, well-turned new-agey lyric > poems. > It was clear enough that these were probably none too faithful, and there > was no way to gather from Barks any sense of the formal character of the > original<< > > The answer to the question in your first sentence? Absolutely yes. That > does > not mean, though, that those translators are not responsible and > accountable > for the relationship between their work and the original and for the way > in > which their translation shapes in the target language/culture the > language/culture of the source. If Coleman Barks (or Daniel Ladinsky, for > that matter) had called his work "adaptations" or "improvisations on" or > "after Rumi" I would have no quarrel with him, and we could argue about > how > striking or well-turned his lyrics might be (personally, I don't find the= m > to be either), but the fact is that he represents--at least in The > Essential > Rumi--his work as translations that somehow free Rumi's text "into its > essence" (which is almost an exact quote from his introduction). The > result > is a spiritual colonization of Rumi's work--because what Barks is really > interested in is spiritualizing Rumi rather than translating him--that is > also the spiritual colonization of Persian culture and the representation > of > that spiritualized culture as what Persian culture is understood to be in > the United States. This is, I should acknowledge, a dynamic I was not > particularly aware of until I started hanging out with Iranians who are > also > writers, poets and translators, and until I was married to an Iranian > woman > and had a son and began to be aware of the profound degree to which many > people who have read Barks' Rumi think that they have been given some sor= t > of privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture. I guess what = I > am saying is that, given the history not only of the translation of > classical Persian literature into English, but also of the relationship > between the culture embodied by English--whether British or American--and > Persian/Iranian culture, it is too easy, and evasive of responsibility fo= r > that history, to see work like Barks's and Ladinsky's as, simply and not > implicated in that history, their own versions of Rumi and Hafez. > > > >>So my question is: Is there a book out there that gives the anglophone > reader access to the poetry of Rumi?<< > > Here are a couple: > > 1. Divani-I Shams-I Tabriz: Forty-Eight Ghazals, translated by Iraj Anvar= : > > http://www.amazon.com/Divani-I-Shams-I-Tabriz-Forty-Eight-Ghazals/dp/8877= 780 > 800/ref=3Dsr_1_1/002-5214504-2806405?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D1178705333= &sr=3D8-1 > > 2. Love Is a Stranger: Selected Lyric Poetry, translated by Kabir Edmund > Helminsky, > > http://www.amazon.com/Love-Stranger-Selected-Lyric-Poetry/dp/0939660326/r= ef=3D > sr_1_11/002-5214504-2806405?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D1178705499&sr=3D1-1= 1 (from > what I understand, any of his translations of Rumi are worth reading) > > 3. A Bird in the Garden of Angels, translated by John Moyne, with Richard > Jeffrey Newman, http://www.mazdapub.com/BookDetails.aspx?BookID=3D231 > (forthcoming; Moyne was Coleman Barks' original collaborator, and is a > decent translator in his own right; he did all the prose translations in > this book; indeed, in Barks' first book, Moyne, who is Iranian, received > top > billing as the one who brought Rumi from Persian into English.) > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:03:46 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Betsy Andrews Subject: May 10 Issue Project Room in Brooklyn: celebrating women poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ISSUE PROJECT ROOM honors “Women’s Work,” curated by IPR Artistic Director, Suzanne Fiol, in a month long program during May 2007. Thursday, May 10, 8 PM Poetry reading series betsy andrews BETSY ANDREWS hosts Nada Gordon, Sharon Mesmer, Susan Briante, Cathy Eisenhower, Jennifer Bartlett, Brenda Ijima, Akilah Oliver, and Kristen Prevallet, all of whom read from new books published in 2007. Betsy Andrews is the author of “New Jersey,” the winner of the 2007 Brittingham Prize (University of Wisconsin Press). She is also author of the chapbook, “She-Devil” (Sardines Press, 2004) and “In Trouble” (Boog, 2005), and the artist's book, “Supercollider,” a collaboration with artist Peter Fox. Her work has appeared most recently in Twenty-Six, Five Fingers Review, PRACTICE, O Poss, and Torch. She is the recipient of a 2007 NY Foundation for the Arts fellowship in poetry. Andrews is a Brooklynite. Jennifer Bartlett has recently published her poems in How2, Dirt, Ratapallax, and WSQ. She was a 2005 New York Foundation for the Arts Poetry Fellow. Her first collection of poetry, “Derivative of the Moving Image,” is forthcoming from the University of New Mexico Press, Nov. 2007. She is the editor of Saint Elizabeth Street: A Journal for Poetry and writes a poetry and poetics blog on the website: saintelizabethstreet.blogspot.com Cathy Eisenhower is a poet-librarian living in Washington, DC. She runs the Interrupting Cow, a chapbook press, and translates the work of Argentine poet Diana Bellessi. Her first full-length collection, “Clearing Without Reversal,” comes out with Edge Books in 2007. Brenda Iijima is the author of “Around Sea” (O Books) and three forthcoming titles: “Animate, Inanimate Aims” (Litmus Press), “Eco Quarry Bellwether” (Outside Voices) and “Rabbit Lesson,” a chapbook. She is the publisher of Portable Press at Yo-Yo Labs which is currently assembling a collection of writings that centers on how writing, poetry specifically, contends with issues of environmental duress. Iijima is also a visual artist and lives in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. Susan Briante is the Assistant Professeur of Aesthetic Studies at UTexas. She is the author of "Pioneers in the Study of Motion" (Ahsahta). Sharon Mesmer is the author of "Annoying Diabetic Bitch" (ComboArts). Kristin Prevallet is a poet, critic and educator living in Brooklyn. She is the author of “I, Afterlife: Essay in Mourning Time,” (Essay Press, Spring 07), “Shadow Evidence Intelligence” (Factory School, 2006) and “Scratch Sides: Poetry, Documentation and Image-text Projects” (Skanky Possum, 2003). The Helen Adam Reader, which she edited and introduced, is in production with the National Poetry Foundation. Nada Gordon is the author of four poetry books: “Folly” (just released on Roof Books), “V. Imp,” “Are Not Our Lowing Heifers Sleeker than Night-Swollen Mushrooms?,” “foreign bodie” (with Gary Sullivan) and an epistolary techno-romantic non-fiction novel called, “Swoon.” Visit her blog at http://ululate.blogspot.com. Akilah Oliver is the author of “the she said dialogues: flesh memory” (Smokeproof/Erudite Fangs, 1999), a book of experimental prose poetry. Her chapbooks include “a(A)ugust” (Yo-Yo Labs, 2007), “Corruptions” (Belladonna, 2006) and "An Arriving Guard of Angels, Thusly Coming to Greet" (Farfalla Press, 2004). She is on faculty at the Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics, Naropa University’s Summer Writing Program and has previously taught at the University of Colorado, Boulder. 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Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 17:00:58 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Barry Schwabsky Subject: Re: Dreams In-Reply-To: <1dec21ae0705090800k1ad6e7e5m5894a25fb2da16e8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm all for truth in advertising! But how did Rumi and Hafiz become brand names? Does anyone on the list know anything about the history of their reception in English? Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote: Barry, There is no question that languages (and the poetry written in them), in one sense, are trapped in their "modes of intention." What does a translation do then, what does it translate? I think a dialectic exists between the target language purely observing its own navel (all too common) and the target language losing itself completely in the other language (in absolute terms, obviously, a logical impossibility). That is why the concept of "distance." A translation translates distance, in other words, the stretch towards the other; it embodies that stretch. What I think Richard is saying is that in Bark and Ladinsky that texture, that element of stretch is non-existent. They are out to create the illusion of transparency (which of course is of economic value to them, since Rumi and Hafiz are brand names at the moment), that they are getting the "real stuff." Here, Richard's contention about naming them "translations" rather than "after" or "inspired by" or "in the spirit of" is important. I know for a fact that Ladinsky, in his early books on Hafiz, used the phrase "after Hafiz." When the Penguin book The Gift came out, the word was changed to "translation," a marketing touch which resulted into the selling of the book in the thousands. The Hafiz pieces in The Gift are no different that the pieces in Ladinsky's earlier publications, that is to say, no poem in any of his books corresponds to any specific Hafiz poem. I think Penguin and Ladinsky should place some flowers on Hafiz's grave in Shiraz as royalties. Ciao, Murat On 5/9/07, Barry Schwabsky wrote: > > "Implicated in" history? Isn't that kind of hard to avoid? Also those who > contest "the relationship between the culture embodied by English--whether > British or American--and > Persian/Iranian culture" are implicated in that relationship. Anyone who > pretends to have "privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture" > or any other culture is, of course, just silly. And that would be equally > the case, by the way, if he himself were Iranian. Nobody has privileged > access. What if you could produce a thousand Iranians willing to testify > that Barks misrepresents their culture, and he could produce just one > Iranian to say that Barks tells it like it is? What would that prove? One > person can be right and a thousand wrong--or vice versa. It's all a matter > of contention. So contend! And I'll probably be on your side, against Barks, > but not if the tone of thing has to be so full of resentment. > > In any case, a translator generally does try to find what some might > call an "essence" of the text he or she is working with. I was just reading > an interview with Peter Cole, a very fine poet who translates from Hebrew > and Arabic into English. He points out that "Moshe Ibn Ezra, the major > theoretician of the medieval period—in fact the only one to write about the > poetry critically in a sustained manner—had the following to say about the > translation from Arabic into Hebrew: 'And if you plan to bring a matter from > Arabic into Hebrew, grasp the spirit and intention of the work, but do not > transpose it word for word, for not all languages are alike… '" I'm not > saying Barks' translations are accurate, that he "grasps the spirit and > intention" of Rumi. I don't know one way or another. I'm can imaginethat > this is not the case. But I'm not wiling to pile the weight of some vast and > unspecified history of wrong on Barks's shoulders, no matter if he even > seems to invite it. > > Richard Jeffrey Newman wrote: > Barry Schwabsky wrote (more than a month ago, and I am sorry I missed > it, > but it got swallowed by the VA Tech shooting and stuff in my life took me > away from the conversation, and so I am responding now): > > >>Surely there is room for all sorts of translations, adaptations, > versions, > and for all I know channelings of classic texts--that is part of their > vitality. I read Barks' Rumi -- striking, well-turned new-agey lyric > poems. > It was clear enough that these were probably none too faithful, and there > was no way to gather from Barks any sense of the formal character of the > original<< > > The answer to the question in your first sentence? Absolutely yes. That > does > not mean, though, that those translators are not responsible and > accountable > for the relationship between their work and the original and for the way > in > which their translation shapes in the target language/culture the > language/culture of the source. If Coleman Barks (or Daniel Ladinsky, for > that matter) had called his work "adaptations" or "improvisations on" or > "after Rumi" I would have no quarrel with him, and we could argue about > how > striking or well-turned his lyrics might be (personally, I don't find them > to be either), but the fact is that he represents--at least in The > Essential > Rumi--his work as translations that somehow free Rumi's text "into its > essence" (which is almost an exact quote from his introduction). The > result > is a spiritual colonization of Rumi's work--because what Barks is really > interested in is spiritualizing Rumi rather than translating him--that is > also the spiritual colonization of Persian culture and the representation > of > that spiritualized culture as what Persian culture is understood to be in > the United States. This is, I should acknowledge, a dynamic I was not > particularly aware of until I started hanging out with Iranians who are > also > writers, poets and translators, and until I was married to an Iranian > woman > and had a son and began to be aware of the profound degree to which many > people who have read Barks' Rumi think that they have been given some sort > of privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture. I guess what I > am saying is that, given the history not only of the translation of > classical Persian literature into English, but also of the relationship > between the culture embodied by English--whether British or American--and > Persian/Iranian culture, it is too easy, and evasive of responsibility for > that history, to see work like Barks's and Ladinsky's as, simply and not > implicated in that history, their own versions of Rumi and Hafez. > > > >>So my question is: Is there a book out there that gives the anglophone > reader access to the poetry of Rumi?<< > > Here are a couple: > > 1. Divani-I Shams-I Tabriz: Forty-Eight Ghazals, translated by Iraj Anvar: > > http://www.amazon.com/Divani-I-Shams-I-Tabriz-Forty-Eight-Ghazals/dp/8877780 > 800/ref=sr_1_1/002-5214504-2806405?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178705333&sr=8-1 > > 2. Love Is a Stranger: Selected Lyric Poetry, translated by Kabir Edmund > Helminsky, > > http://www.amazon.com/Love-Stranger-Selected-Lyric-Poetry/dp/0939660326/ref= > sr_1_11/002-5214504-2806405?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178705499&sr=1-11 (from > what I understand, any of his translations of Rumi are worth reading) > > 3. A Bird in the Garden of Angels, translated by John Moyne, with Richard > Jeffrey Newman, http://www.mazdapub.com/BookDetails.aspx?BookID=231 > (forthcoming; Moyne was Coleman Barks' original collaborator, and is a > decent translator in his own right; he did all the prose translations in > this book; indeed, in Barks' first book, Moyne, who is Iranian, received > top > billing as the one who brought Rumi from Persian into English.) > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 12:15:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Richard Jeffrey Newman Subject: Re: Dreams In-Reply-To: <749098.23600.qm@web86014.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Barry: >>"Implicated in" history? Isn't that kind of hard to avoid? Also those who contest "the relationship between the culture embodied by English--whether British or American--and Persian/Iranian culture" are implicated in that relationship. Anyone who pretends to have "privileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture" or any other culture is, of course, just silly.<< Of course. My point is that both Barks and Ladinsky state and claim quite explicitly in their introductions (in part, no doubt, for the economic reasons that Murat mentions) that they do have this kind of access to the essence(s) of the texts they are translating and that, for me, is a fundamental dishonesty--even if it is not their intention to be dishonest--for which they can and should be held accountable. Not, I would agree with you, by piling onto their shoulders a history of wrong for which they cannot be held personally responsible, but by asking them to take responsibility for that history--and I do not agree that it is vast and unspecified--no differently than we would ask anyone whose work delved into such issues to take responsibility for their implication in/positioning relative to the history of race in the US or of sexism or of class. >>I'm not saying Barks' translations are accurate, that he "grasps the spirit and intention" of Rumi. I don't know one way or another.<< But precisely because Barks and Ladinsky call what they do translations, knowing one way or the other is important, not because that knowledge necessarily reflects on the quality of the work produced in English--even the most egregiously inaccurate translation could turn out to be a wonderful English poem--but because that knowledge is what will tell you whether your reading of Barks' Rumi, say, is teaching you something about Iran and its culture/history/literature or not. About this, I need to acknowledge, Barks is quite honest; he states in the introduction to The Essential Rumi that any concern with Iranian history, etc. is essentially antithetical to his project. That honesty, however, does not, for me anyway, ameliorate what I think is the dishonest claim of access-to-essence that I talked about above. In other words, Barks claims, on the one hand, to have access to the ahistorical essence of the text and, at the same time, dismisses from relevancy to his project the text's historicity (I think I am using that word correctly). To me, this is an unethical position to take. Well, this feels clumsier than I wanted it to be, but I am off to teach. Richard ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 12:32:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Truscott Subject: May 11: Alland & Greenstreet in Toronto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friday, May 11, 7:30 p.m. The Test Reading Series, featuring SANDRA ALLAND and KATE GREENSTREET (bios below) Mercer Union, A Centre for Contemporary Art 37 Lisgar Street, Toronto Free (donations gratefully accepted) More info. (including further information on Alland and Greenstreet, recordings of previous installments, and a map): www.testreading.org Be there, or be somewhere else! ******************************************************************** SANDRA ALLAND is a writer, multimedia artist and activist. She has published and presented her work in Canada, the US, Mexico, Bermuda, the UK and Spain. Sandra has two full-length collections of poetry: Proof of a Tongue (McGilligan Books, 2004) and Blissful Times (BookThug, 2007). She is currently and perpetually obsessed with (mis)communication, between people and people, and between people and computers. Also a bookseller and micropress publisher, Sandra advocates for the protection and nourishment of independent publishers and bookstores. KATE GREENSTREET is the author of case sensitive (Ahsahta Press, 2006)and the chapbook Learning the Language (Etherdome Press, 2005). Her poems have appeared in Cannibal, Fascicle, the tiny, 26, Conduit, and other journals. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:02:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: book announcements: Charles Alexander and Stephen Vincent Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Junction Press has two new books up on its website, www.junctionpress.com. Click on the logo, then scroll down to find the thumbnail of the book of your choice, click and read. Stephen Vincent, Walking Theory, $12. See also his previous Junction book, Walking, $9. Charles Alexander, Certain Slants. $16 (it's 154 pages) You can order on the website, but remember, if you backchannel the order to me as list members you get a 20% discount. Add $3 for shipping in the US. Mark ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 12:39:51 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: Dreams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regarding Murat's acute insight re distance, translation and marketing--how= often does one not find the latest translation of Baudelaire, say, "in the= edition for our times". "At last, Baudelaire as he would be if writing to= day! And made even better in this vernacular version by Q, which, unlike t= he origianl, does not confine the great avant-gardist to a classical form, = but liberates him into the most advanced experimental forms of contemporary= America." The same methods more or less one can find applied to any numbe= r of poets of the "modern" era, while the "Ancients" have for many centurie= s been used to being "modernized" and "improved" and "interpreted in light = of the latest archeological evidences." (Not to mention the latest literar= y, phlosophical and political ideologies--with the attendant appropriate ce= nsorings and alterations of passages---) The main idea--the main sellin= g point--is that readers of today want to read poets of amyage as though th= ey are living today--and in the USA--but provided with bios from other time= s and places--to make them "exotic" or "maudit" or"Romantic"--"Classical"--= "Religious"--"classics of the avant-garde"-- Interesting how, with Exis= tentialism out of view of even the rear view mirrors, that "essence" is the= "core" rather than "existence preceding essence"-- Rimbaud said that h= is writing meant what it said "literally and in every sense"--he had also a= dvocated "the long reasoned derangement of all the senses to arrive . . . a= t being a Seer"--so his "in every sense" emodies a "reasoned derangement of= all the seneses"--an Otherness--to be understood alongside of the literal.= "I is an other." I think these words of Rimbaud are of profound = use and interest in translation--the sense that words mean literally and in= every sense--that they have also depending on the writing--(very few are R= imbauds)--the possibility of the senses emodying senses which have been mad= e others--and --even without this being the case, that the "iteral and in e= very sense"--to be translated indeed is particiapting in an "I is an other.= " Transaltion also is a means of production of an author-functi= on which can become distanced in another way. "Benjamin's Baudelaire" for = example, has become a much more familiar and cited figure than Baudelaire h= imself. One meets many persons who can converse about Baudelaire--"Benjami= n's Baudelaire--who have never read a single work by the poet, whether in p= oetry or prose. Benjamin's Baudelaire's flaneur strolls about Paris, takin= g the reader on a guided tour of the capitalist exposes and insights of the= philosopher. Who needs the troubling and dangerous figure of the poet and= his works other than drug addled aspiring punk rock poets a la Patti Smith= ? Much healthier to have the Benjaminian "essence" of Baudelaire than the r= otting "core" of "Flowers of Evil"! The quasi-fictive nature of Benja= mion's Baudelaire can be extended further in the poems from the Japanse fem= ale poet translated by Rexroth which were actually by himself, and the work= s of the poet known as Yasusada. In the case of both, though more so in th= e latter, the aspect of translation as a form of both projecting and mirror= ing device is being laid bare. For example, Benjamin's Baudelire is more a= cceptable to readers because the poet becomes someone mopving and acting an= d writing within a wrold made recongizable and near, a wrold explained, cod= ified, cataloged and given added meanings by knowing who Benjamin is. The = imagery and bric-a-brac so familiar from so many accounts and documents of = the time are readily at hand for the stage settings and the quasi-fictional= poet need only obey the commands of his philospher-narrator and the reder = believes in the "translation" into terms that seem much more useful than an= yprovided in the original. This "transaltion" then is a projection of an i= deology onto the originals as well as a mirroring--looking into the transla= tions, the reader sees themself--the ways in which Benjaiomn's Baudelaire's= modernity are coexisting and interealting with their own. In the = Yasusada--a project onto a fictional being of tropes of American ideas of t= he "Japanese" as well as a mirroring--in reading these--the reader finds th= emself reflecting back in the recongized tropes, the signs and symbols of "= Japan" . . . at one level this fictional heteronymous "translation" is a fo= rm of interogation of transaltions' proejctions and mirrorings in terms of = the distances Murat discusses. The Rimbaud and another are the two I = am most interested in through time, with no final say in anwy way on these.= The other aspect of transaltion I find ever fascinating is that of what I= call "deComposition"--which occurs in all sorts of ways. For example--Sap= pho--whose works have been progressively and intentionally destroyed at var= ious points in the past--the libraries they were in were--while remaing ali= ve as fragments found in quotes by others and continuing to be found to thi= s day in the dumps in Egypt where discarded mummies' wrappings have been to= ssed away--the immense power of these works--which still exists when reducd= ed to but a few words, a few lines--scattered and found in fragments throug= h time, quoted by others, turning up in dumps--and going through an endless= series of transaltions--since a child I have found this and the survival o= f Heraclitus' frgaments infinietely inspiring--"The most beaitufl world is = a heap of rubble tossed down at random" says Heraclitus--and that is where = one seems to find Sappho! DeComposition occurs continually with te= xts of anysort in the world--the actions of time--weathering--wars--destruc= tions--fires--earthquakes--demolitions--i work with found letterings and fo= rms outdoors and in--making rubBEings or clay imnpression spray paitings--a= nd put these through seres of deComposings--so that from the initial "poetr= y" of words--one arrives at syallbles, then letters, fragments of these--th= en ino noise--and then via negentropy--one begins to move beack via the fra= gments towards letters sysllables words--poems--though they maybe of an ent= irly other language as yet unknown or in theones we recongize--itis the cyc= le of noise into poery to music to p[oetry to sounds to noise and back agai= n over and over--this is an other form of transaltion i think--a way in whi= ch things become translated into an other cotinually through time, through = force, through change--those things which endured for a very long time with= very little change--for example the cave paitings--present a paradox: by = having endured so long without change--their "messsage" has been lost--the = transmission is there--we recongize immediatly that it is a communication--= what itis "saying" and "signing" we do not know--our "translations" are onl= y "educated guesses" at best--with the rubBEings and clay impression spray = patings one has still th literal of Rimabud's expression--the literal physi= cal imprint or copy of the physica existence (not "essence") of the materia= l--(literally a material word, syllable, letter--one in wood, metal, plasti= c, glass, sonte, etc--)--then its being rearranged via a reasoned derangeme= nt--("i'm qualified" as i say)--but a reasoned derangemnt also of the ways = inwhich the cayons the paint the clay the paper are moved--so that al of th= is involves indeed forms of translation--in which an "origianL' becomes and= is an other--and from an other changes into an other and an other and an o= ther--yet within them all is emdbedd the orgianry elements--the literal is = within them--though now deComposed into some other literal--there is a conn= ection--there is no sense in which the continuity of the flux is lost--thes= e are some of the elemnts which fascainte me with translations--of various = kinds--for example--in performing these--one moves from poems into sound po= etry into Lettriste poetry into noise poetry--and then towards a movement t= owards something other--and one does not have to even go into the trajector= y back into anything--one may continue into a vanishing into noise--"white = noise"--as into a whiteness of the whale--or the figure of whiteness in the= snow in Poe's Pym--or of apage--a vanishing--from outof which may begin to= emrge something other--signalling--singing, signing--the translation as a f= orm of drunken boat-- > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:00:12 -0400> Fr= om: muratnn@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Dreams> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.ED= U> > Barry,> > There is no question that languages (and the poetry written = in them), in one> sense, are trapped in their "modes of intention." What do= es a translation do> then, what does it translate? I think a dialectic exis= ts between the target> language purely observing its own navel (all too com= mon) and the target> language losing itself completely in the other languag= e (in absolute terms,> obviously, a logical impossibility). That is why the= concept of "distance."> A translation translates distance, in other words,= the stretch towards the> other; it embodies that stretch.> > What I think = Richard is saying is that in Bark and Ladinsky that texture,> that element = of stretch is non-existent. They are out to create the illusion> of transpa= rency (which of course is of economic value to them, since Rumi> and Hafiz = are brand names at the moment), that they are getting the "real> stuff." He= re, Richard's contention about naming them "translations" rather> than "aft= er" or "inspired by" or "in the spirit of" is important. I know for> a fact= that Ladinsky, in his early books on Hafiz, used the phrase "after> Hafiz.= " When the Penguin book The Gift came out, the word was changed to> "transl= ation," a marketing touch which resulted into the selling of the> book in= the thousands. The Hafiz pieces in The Gift are no different that> the pi= eces in Ladinsky's earlier publications, that is to say, no poem in> any of= his books corresponds to any specific Hafiz poem.> > I think Penguin and L= adinsky should place some flowers on Hafiz's grave in> Shiraz as royalties.= > > Ciao,> > Murat> > > > On 5/9/07, Barry Schwabsky wrote:> >> > "Implicated in" history? Isn't that kind of hard to av= oid? Also those who> > contest "the relationship between the culture embodi= ed by English--whether> > British or American--and> > Persian/Iranian cultu= re" are implicated in that relationship. Anyone who> > pretends to have "pr= ivileged access to the core truths of Iranian culture"> > or any other cult= ure is, of course, just silly. And that would be equally> > the case, by th= e way, if he himself were Iranian. Nobody has privileged> > access. What if= you could produce a thousand Iranians willing to testify> > that Barks mis= represents their culture, and he could produce just one> > Iranian to say t= hat Barks tells it like it is? What would that prove? One> > person can be = right and a thousand wrong--or vice versa. It's all a matter> > of contenti= on. So contend! And I'll probably be on your side, against Barks,> > but no= t if the tone of thing has to be so full of resentment.> >> > In any case= , a translator generally does try to find what some might> > call an "essen= ce" of the text he or she is working with. I was just reading> > an intervi= ew with Peter Cole, a very fine poet who translates from Hebrew> > and Arab= ic into English. He points out that "Moshe Ibn Ezra, the major> > theoretic= ian of the medieval period=97in fact the only one to write about the> > poe= try critically in a sustained manner=97had the following to say about the> = > translation from Arabic into Hebrew: 'And if you plan to bring a matter f= rom> > Arabic into Hebrew, grasp the spirit and intention of the work, but = do not> > transpose it word for word, for not all languages are alike=85 '"= I'm not> > saying Barks' translations are accurate, that he "grasps the sp= irit and> > intention" of Rumi. I don't know one way or another. I'm can im= aginethat> > this is not the case. But I'm not wiling to pile the weight of= some vast and> > unspecified history of wrong on Barks's shoulders, no mat= ter if he even> > seems to invite it.> >> > Richard Jeffrey Newman wrote:> > Barry Schwabsky wrote (more than a m= onth ago, and I am sorry I missed> > it,> > but it got swallowed by the VA = Tech shooting and stuff in my life took me> > away from the conversation, a= nd so I am responding now):> >> > >>Surely there is room for all sorts of t= ranslations, adaptations,> > versions,> > and for all I know channelings of= classic texts--that is part of their> > vitality. I read Barks' Rumi -- st= riking, well-turned new-agey lyric> > poems.> > It was clear enough that th= ese were probably none too faithful, and there> > was no way to gather from= Barks any sense of the formal character of the> > original<<> >> > The ans= wer to the question in your first sentence? Absolutely yes. That> > does> >= not mean, though, that those translators are not responsible and> > accoun= table> > for the relationship between their work and the original and for t= he way> > in> > which their translation shapes in the target language/cultu= re the> > language/culture of the source. If Coleman Barks (or Daniel Ladin= sky, for> > that matter) had called his work "adaptations" or "improvisatio= ns on" or> > "after Rumi" I would have no quarrel with him, and we could ar= gue about> > how> > striking or well-turned his lyrics might be (personally= , I don't find them> > to be either), but the fact is that he represents--a= t least in The> > Essential> > Rumi--his work as translations that somehow = free Rumi's text "into its> > essence" (which is almost an exact quote from= his introduction). The> > result> > is a spiritual colonization of Rumi's = work--because what Barks is really> > interested in is spiritualizing Rumi = rather than translating him--that is> > also the spiritual colonization of = Persian culture and the representation> > of> > that spiritualized culture = as what Persian culture is understood to be in> > the United States. This i= s, I should acknowledge, a dynamic I was not> > particularly aware of until= I started hanging out with Iranians who are> > also> > writers, poets and = translators, and until I was married to an Iranian> > woman> > and had a so= n and began to be aware of the profound degree to which many> > people who = have read Barks' Rumi think that they have been given some sort> > of privi= leged access to the core truths of Iranian culture. I guess what I> > am sa= ying is that, given the history not only of the translation of> > classical= Persian literature into English, but also of the relationship> > between t= he culture embodied by English--whether British or American--and> > Persian= /Iranian culture, it is too easy, and evasive of responsibility for> > that= history, to see work like Barks's and Ladinsky's as, simply and not> > imp= licated in that history, their own versions of Rumi and Hafez.> >> >> > >>S= o my question is: Is there a book out there that gives the anglophone> > re= ader access to the poetry of Rumi?<<> >> > Here are a couple:> >> > 1. Diva= ni-I Shams-I Tabriz: Forty-Eight Ghazals, translated by Iraj Anvar:> >> > h= ttp://www.amazon.com/Divani-I-Shams-I-Tabriz-Forty-Eight-Ghazals/dp/8877780= > > 800/ref=3Dsr_1_1/002-5214504-2806405?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D11787053= 33&sr=3D8-1> >> > 2. Love Is a Stranger: Selected Lyric Poetry, translated = by Kabir Edmund> > Helminsky,> >> > http://www.amazon.com/Love-Stranger-Sel= ected-Lyric-Poetry/dp/0939660326/ref=3D> > sr_1_11/002-5214504-2806405?ie= =3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D1178705499&sr=3D1-11 (from> > what I understand, an= y of his translations of Rumi are worth reading)> >> > 3. A Bird in the Gar= den of Angels, translated by John Moyne, with Richard> > Jeffrey Newman, ht= tp://www.mazdapub.com/BookDetails.aspx?BookID=3D231> > (forthcoming; Moyne = was Coleman Barks' original collaborator, and is a> > decent translator in = his own right; he did all the prose translations in> > this book; indeed, i= n Barks' first book, Moyne, who is Iranian, received> > top> > billing as t= he one who brought Rumi from Persian into English.)> > _________________________________________________________________ Add some color. Personalize your inbox with your favorite colors. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=3Den-us&ocid= =3DTXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_addcolor_0507= ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:18:43 -1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: Tinfish Press Summer News! Comments: To: Gaye MG Chan , Sandy Gabrielli , jacinta galea'i , Glenn Mott , Gary Pak , "Theodore S. Gonzalves" , Glenn K Man , Greg_Herbst@nps.gov, Geraldine Monk , Ken J Goto , Lesa Griffith , Gay Sibley , Arielle Greenberg , Gary Chun , Gavin Selerie , Philip James Gaudette , Lee Gutkind , BRIAN GUNN , GOETRY! , godefroy@hawaii.edu, gmguddi@ilstu.edu, Peter Gizzi , gcspivak@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit TINFISH NEWS (and some of ours) This summer, the press gods willing, Tinfish Press will publish more good works of experimental writing from the Pacific. Please support our work. See http://tinfishpress.com for the full effect. You can buy Tinfish products from our website, from Small Press Distribution (spdbooks.org), or from the UH Bookstore and Native Books in Honolulu, Hawai`i. --Tinfish #17: our 17th journal issue, features poems by R. Zamora Linmark, Shin Yu Pai, Kaia Sand, Jules Boykoff, Afaa Michael Weaver, Sage U`ilani Takehiro, Deborah Meadows, Steve Bradbury, Kimo Armitage, Kim Hyesoon (translated by Don Mee Choi), Craig Perez, Normie Salvador, and many others! Bowling score sheet covers by Jean Pitman and centerfold by N. Trisha Lagaso Goldberg. Graphic design by Yoko Hattori. $8 each or $20 for three (you can get issues 14-16, as well, for $20). --Counting Corpses, by Sarith Peou. Poems about the Khmer Rouge genocide in Cambodia by a survivor. Graphic design (in more than one sense) by Gaye Chan and Lian Litvin. --Tinfish net #3, a collection of essays and thoughts on translation. John Zuern, Craig Perez, Donatella Izzo, Linh Dinh, and many others. In the near future we will also be publishing a chapbook by Hwang Jiwoo, translated by the late Scott Saner, and a full-length book by Hazel Smith, The Erotics of Geography, with CD-ROM. “About us” news: A long section of Susan M. Schultz's DEMENTIA BLOG (August) is featured in the new issue of INTERIM, out of UNLV. See here for details on the journal's previous issue: http://interimmag.org/ Susan has poems in NOT FOR MOTHERS ONLY, from Fence Books. http://www.upne.com/0-9771064-8-9.html Gaye Chan and Andrea Feeser's Waikiki: A History of Forgetting and Remembering from UH Press is available through amazon.com and other sources. If you would like to give money to Tinfish while buying things, please give your business to Giveline: http://www.giveline.com/default.asp?v=V048116046 If you'd like to give us money pure and simple, just go to http://tinfishpress.com and hit the donate button. We appreciate any support you can offer. Enjoy your reading. Susan M. Schultz Professor Department of English University of Hawai`i-Manoa Honolulu, HI 96822 http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp?c_id=stl Go Cards!!! now available: _A Poetics of Impasse in Modern and Contemporary American Poetry_, University of Alabama Press http://www.uapress.ua.edu/NewSearch2.cfm?id=132788 http://tinfishpress.com http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/schultz/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:13:34 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Evans Subject: The Line by Jennifer Moxley Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Jennifer Moxley's fourth collection of poems, The Line, is now available from The Post-Apollo Press. "These prose poems tell the story of sleeping and waking, of this very bout of writing, of the search for the line of time and the poet's immortality. The Line feels like a classic already, with its just words and its images 'suggested by sound and experience.' It is a poetics but also a real, readable tale." -- Alice Notley "We're in a state between sleep and waking, where consciousness resists the tasks of reason and routine but instead views, from the perspective of darkness, the whole span from newborn promise to the old mammal's erosion of muscle. Moxley's usual keen intelligence here comes with an oneiric fluidity as it hunts through the perplexities of life for THE LINE from past to future, the line for words to form-- and, implicitly, the ideal line of verse these prose poems play against with their amazing leaps, sly humor, and complex inference. You'll wish the morning sun would not win out, the book would not come to its end." -- Rosmarie Waldrop Order from publisher http://www.postapollopress.com/TheLine.html Order from SPD http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=9780942996616 The new issue of The Poker, just back from the printer, includes a long conversation between editor Daniel Bouchard and Moxley. For ordering information, visit http://www.durationpress.com/thepoker/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:01:59 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: book announcements: Charles Alexander and Stephen Vincent In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509145420.05a1b880@earthlink.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Assume you will also do UK and Poetryetc ?? With different shipping info. S > Junction Press has two new books up on its website, > www.junctionpress.com. Click on the logo, then scroll down to find > the thumbnail of the book of your choice, click and read. > > Stephen Vincent, Walking Theory, $12. See also his previous Junction > book, Walking, $9. > Charles Alexander, Certain Slants. $16 (it's 154 pages) > > You can order on the website, but remember, if you backchannel the > order to me as list members you get a 20% discount. Add $3 for > shipping in the US. > > Mark ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 12:54:11 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephanie Farrar Subject: CFP: Complicating the Avant-Garde: 20th Cen. American Women Writers (NEMLA, abstracts due 9/15, conference, 11/2007) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NEMLA Buffalo, November 2007: This panel invites a discussion of twentieth century American women writers whose work can be considered avant-garde, but whose work may challenge current definitions of the avant-garde (e.g. Peter Bürger’s). Whether they have not been considered as members of the “historical avant-garde” because of time of writing, or for formal or cultural reasons, including limited notions of “modernism” and “postmodernism,” this panel seeks to question: 1. How definitions of the avant-garde may serve to exclude experimental female writers, and 2., Whether an avant-garde is still possible. Suggested writers include: Djuna Barnes, Gertrude Stein, Susan Howe, Theresa Hak Kyung Cha, Cecilia Vicuña and Harryette Mullen. Suggested topics: Papers may choose to argue for or against a broadening of the current notion of the historical avant-garde, or may choose to propose a contemporary writer’s work as part of a current extension of avant-garde practice. Papers that propose how these and other American women writers complicate, or force a reconsideration of the “avant-garde” through their political or formally experimental practices are welcomed. Abstracts due September 15, 2007 for NEMLA conference in Buffalo in November. Send Abstracts to Stephanie Farrar: stephfarrar@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 17:49:21 -0400 Reply-To: arippeon@buffalo.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Andrew Rippeon Subject: CFP: George Oppen Centenary Panel (deadline: 9/15/07; conference: NEMLA 4/10/08 - 4/13/08) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 CFP: George Oppen Centenary Panel (deadline: 9/15/07; conference: NEMLA 4/1= 0/08 - 4/13/08) 39th Convention, Northeast Modern Language Association (NeMLA) April 10-13, 2008 Buffalo, New York April 24, 2008 will mark the birth centenary of George Oppen. In anticipat= ion of this, the George Oppen Centenary Panel (April 10 =E2=80=93 13; NeMLA= )=20 seeks in particular new readings of Oppen, but will also consider significa= nt developments of or departures from familiar or established frames in=20 which his work has been received. Possible topics may include: reconsidera= tions of the relationship(s) between Oppen=E2=80=99s politics and his poetr= y;=20 Oppen in context (e.g. the Imagists, the Objectivists, but especially outsi= de those frames); the poetics of Oppen=E2=80=99s interviews, letters, and/o= r prose;=20 Oppen=E2=80=99s work to import philosophy and ethics into American poetry. = Given the occasion of his centenary and the aim of the panel to explore ne= w=20 ways of reading Oppen, the panel will be especially interested in papers th= at work with the Oppen archive record (e.g. the =E2=80=9Cdaybooks,=E2=80=9D= the reading=20 notes, etc.); that work to reconsider the partnership between George and Ma= ry Oppen; that consider Oppen=E2=80=99s later poetry in relation to memory= =20 and/or illness; that offer extensions of Oppen=E2=80=99s relation to and in= fluence on younger poets and/or subsequent poetics.=20=20=20 Send abstracts of 250 =E2=80=93 500 words and a brief CV (no more than one = page, please) to Andrew Rippeon (arippeon@buffalo.edu), by September 15,=20 2007. Be sure to include with your abstract: Name and Affiliation=20 Email address=20 Postal address=20 Telephone number A/V requirements (if any) The complete Call for Papers for the 2008 Convention will be posted in June= : www.nemla.org. Interested participants may submit abstracts to=20 more than one NeMLA panel; however panelists can only present one paper. C= onvention participants may present at a paper session panel and=20 also present at a creative session or participate in a roundtable. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 20:57:48 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: m'labme MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed m'labme : i am your pole punctum avatar : take me off your world : i devour cylinder of dream world : no top or bottom : pathetic : balm, embalm http://www.asondheim.org/embalm7.jpg ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 23:02:18 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: andrews@FORDHAM.EDU Subject: Fw: Language Poetry & The Body: A Panel--Segue 5/12 Comments: To: brucep@bway.net, ParrasJ@wpunj.edu, perelman@dept.english.upenn.edu, curators@petesbigsalmon.com, kieron@earthlink.net, nickpoetique@earthlink.net, poetics@acsu.buffalo.edu, poproj@thorn.net, info@poetryproject.com, POL@fordham.edu, comitee@comcast.net, re_permitter@yahoo.com, alissa_quart@yahoo.com, gquasha@stationhill.org, mragona@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit here's a sequence of 25 screenshots from 'niolog': http://vispo.com/nio/pens/screenshots/nio22.htm these are screenshots of 'the pen' in action as it moves 4 nibs around the screen, nibs whose 'inks' are animations from a 2001 interactive audio piece i did called nio. the nio animations are made of language, of letters. letters only. they are phonemes that are uttered/sung in nio. so the above screenshots are visual representations of that which is sung, of language that is sung. but they could also be thought of as representations of thought. in process in the brain. representations of what language looks like inside the head. emotions. thoughts. involved with language. and song. these screenshots look rather like 'onion skins' but not quite. an 'onion skin' is what you would see were you to see several frames at once of an animation, where frames further from some near-opaque focus-frame become increasingly transparent. these are different from onion skins in two ways. there are four animations visible, at any given time (not just one), and the animations themselves are in motion, not simply the content of the animations. perhaps this, in part, accounts for the heightened complexity beyond, say, the onion skins of http://vispo.com/nio/still1.htm . this latter url shows a sequence of onion skins of individual nio animations. if you use flash, you can view the animation as an onion skin inside the flash interface. to view the nio animations themselves, with no onion skinning or whatever, have a look at http://vispo.com/nio/Nio5.htm . here you also see there is a correspondence between a particular animation and its sound (which i sung). to view the generative piece in which the screenshots were created, have a look at http://vispo.com/nio/pens/springs7.htm and, in the toolbar at the bottom, mouseover the controls until the Help ghost says "Choose Poem". Then click the control to change from "TIME" to "Niolog". ja ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 01:46:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Jorgensen, Alexander" Subject: PREVIEW OF JASON MAYNARD'S PARIS HILTON SCULPTURE, "SUICIDE SOCIALITE" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://www.thevenicecontemporary.com/JasonMaynard.html -- Alexander Jorgensen -- "[H]e who leaps into the void owes no explanation to those who watch.” (Jean-Luc Godard) --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 00:22:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Machlin Subject: Upcoming Futurepoem Titles: Durand & Shirinyan Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Futurepoem is pleased to announce two new forthcoming upcoming =20 titles, chosen during our recent open call for manuscripts. Ara Shirinyan=92s YOUR COUNTRY IS GREAT Marcella Durand=92s TRAFFIC & WEATHER These titles were selected by Futurepoem 2006/2007 editorial panel: =20 Laura Elrick, Tonya Foster, Robert Fitterman and Dan Machlin. Planned =20= publication dates will be announced shortly. Ara Shirinyan was born in 1977 in, what was then, the Soviet =20 Socialist Republic of Armenia. Since 1987, he has lived in Los =20 Angeles, where he writes and is editor of Make Now Press. His first =20 book Syria Is in the World will be available in June, 2007 from Palm =20 Press. With the group Godzik Pink, he released two CDs (Es Em, Ekel =20 Em and Black Broccoli) on Kill Rock Stars/5rc. With Stan Apps and =20 Teresa Carmody, he co-curates The Last Sunday Reading Series at the =20 Smell in Los Angeles (an all ages punk/art rock club that he helped =20 co-found in 1997 and briefly ran for a year). His work has appeared =20 or is forthcoming in Word Ways, UBUWEB, Greetings, Trepan, Combo, =20 Area Sneaks, Tuli & Savu among others. from YOUR COUNTRY IS GREAT =93Afghanistan is Great=94 Afghanistan is great, but much smaller than previously assumed. the need for education in Afghanistan is great and must be met quickly, need for food in Afghanistan is great, well-acquainted with unique problems facing Afghanistan. The need for tough, dependable, locally repairable wheelchairs in Afghanistan is great. A mountain. An airplane. Aviation in Afghanistan is great fun. Pipeline via Afghanistan is great. There is no question that Allah=92s knowledge and love of Afghanistan is great even as he regrets the limits of his understanding. Marcella Durand=92s long piece Traffic & Weather was written during a =20= six-month residency at the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council located =20 at 120 Broadway in New York City. Her other publications include The =20 Anatomy of Oil, Western Capital Rhapsodies, City of Ports, and a new =20 collection, Area, forthcoming in 2008 from Belladonna Books as part =20 of the Council of Literary Magazine and Small Press=92s FACE OUT =20 program. She is a former editor of The Poetry Project Newsletter and =20 the poetry editor for Erato Press, a collaborative fine-arts and =20 letterpress based in New Orleans, LA, and New York City. Currently, =20 she is working on a book-length translation of Mich=E8le M=E9tail=92s = Les =20 horizons du sol/Earth=92s Horizons, a history of the geological =20 formation of Marseille written within a Oulipian formal constraint. =20 The first section of Earth=92s Horizons will be published in The Nation =20= in June 2007. She has given talks and published essays on the =20 potential intersections of ecology and poetry at venues such as Small =20= Press Traffic, Naropa University, the Dactyl Foundation, and Kelly =20 Writers House. An excerpt of an ongoing collaboration with poet Tina =20 Darragh, based on environmental science, Deep Ecology and Francis =20 Ponge, recently appeared in Ecopoetics. from TRAFFIC & WEATHER: =93The city is made of untouchable facets. When drenched it becomes unbearably active. Each facet reflects another part of itself but never self-reflective: always moving out. More rain, until every surface reflects The dry floor inside=97oblique concrete slabs patterned with absent =20 tiles. Their long lines contradict their short shadows. Above the =20 shadows of absent flooring rise concrete islands. He sits in his =20 space and plots how to link these islands to one another. Is that =20 just a description of where he is?=94 For more information about the press or to sign up for our mailing =20 list please visit: http://www.futurepoem.com To purchase Futurepoem titles please visit: http://www.spdbooks.org http://www.amazon.com =20= ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 23:28:33 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: jUStin!katKO Subject: MESHWORKS: Cambridge Women's Feature & Rodefer In-Reply-To: <3bf622560704291156u62921654w66c1a5c6703f9395@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline NEW AT MESHWORKS: 1) Feature: Cambridge Experimental Women's Poetry Festival 2) Stephen Rodefer - - - 1) Cambridge Experimental Women's Poetry Festival Cambridge University (UK) - October 2006 - Organizer: Emily Critchley The CEWPF feature brings you video documentation of readings and talks by: Andrea Brady, Lisa Samuels, Kathleen Fraser, Susan M. Schultz, Rod Mengham, Susana Gardner, Geraldine Monk, Peter Middleton, Redell Olsen, Carol Mirakove, Keith Tuma & Justin Katko, Marianne Morris, Tom Raworth, Catherine Wagner, Coupons$B!b(BCoupons, Camille PB, Kai Fierle-Hedrick, Kristen Kreider, Tim Atkins, Ken Edwards, Wendy Mulford, Peter Manson, Maggie O'Sullivan, Caroline Bergvall, Leslie Scalapino and Lucy Sheerman. For more further documentation of the Festival, please visit the Archive of the Now and HOW2 . 2) Stephen Rodefer Miami University - February 2007 video and sound of Rodefer reading new poems, translations of Villon and Baudelaire, and from Four Lectures - - - FORTHCOMING Readings by New British Poets: Andrea Brady Peter Manson Keston Sutherland also: William R. Howe, Allen Fisher, Hannah Rodabaugh, Aaren Yandrich, Keith Tuma, Rachel Smith, Martin Corless-Smith & Jen Stockdale - - - Meshworks: the Miami University Archive of Writing in Performance ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:13:22 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: reJennifer Bartlett Subject: Brooklyn Reading Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Friends of EARSHOT, Don't miss out on the next installment of EARSHOT! Please join us on Friday, May 11th at 8 PM for a dose of literary goodness! Our featured readers are Mónica de la Torre, author of the new poetry collection, Talk Shows, and poet Jennifer Bartlett, author of the forthcoming Derivative of the Moving Image. They'll be joined by three talented MFA students and copies of Mónica's book will be on sale. As always, it's only five bucks, which gets you a free drink! Join us! Your pal, Nicole Steinberg EARSHOT! Join us for the next installment of EARSHOT at The Lucky Cat, located in Williamsburg, Brooklyn! EARSHOT is a bi-monthly reading series, dedicated to featuring new and emerging literary talent in the NYC area. *Friday, May 11th, 2007 at 8 PM* Hosted by Nicole Steinberg Featuring: Mónica de la Torre (author of Talk Shows) Jennifer Bartlett (author of the forthcoming Derivative of the Moving Image) Ari Banias (Hunter College) Gregory Crosby (City College) Denise Burrell-Stinson (Columbia University) Admission is a mere $5 plus one free drink (beer, wine or well drinks only)! The Lucky Cat is located at 245 Grand Street in Brooklyn, between Driggs and Roebling. Visit their website for directions: http://www.theluckycat.com. Also visit http://www.earshotnyc.com for more information on Earshot or e-mail Nicole Steinberg at earshotnyc@gmail.com. -- EARSHOT! http://www.earshotnyc.com http://myspace.com/earshotnyc _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. It’s free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_MAY07 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:10:56 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Fieled Subject: Barry Schwabsky on PFS Post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Check out four lovely poems from poet and art critic Barry Schwabsky on PFS Post: http://www.artrecess.blogspot.com New stuff: http://www.adamfieled.blogspot.com http://www.andrewlundwall.com "Every time I feel fascination I just can't stand still..." --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:01:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Evan Munday Subject: Rachel Zolf's Human Resources West Coast Tour Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Dear Poetics Listserv members (particularly those of you on the West=20 Coast), As readers in Buffalo, Toronto and Montreal learned this past month,=20 poetry and =91plain language=92 collide in the writing machine that is=20= Rachel Zolf=92s Human Resources in the most astounding and intriguing=20 ways. And in May, poetry fans on the western side of North America will=20= have the opportunity to see her read from her collection of pilfered=20 rhetorics at one of four events, beginning tomorrow. Prepare for=20 amazement! May 11 - Vancouver: Rachel Zolf reads at a Kootenay School of Writing=20 event with Mark Wallace (Nothing Happened and Besides I Wasn't There).=20= The event takes place at Spartacus Books (319 West Hastings) and begins=20= at 8:00 p.m. May 14 - Olympia: Rachel Zolf journeys south of the border to Olympia,=20= Washington, for a reading at Evergreen State College. Zolf reads with=20 Kaia Sand in Seminar 2 Building, Room C-1105 at 7:00 p.m. The reading=20 is open to both students and members of the general public. May 19 - Seattle: Zolf tears apart the emerald city's Elliott Bay Book=20= Company (101 South Main Street) with Seattle writer John Olson, author=20= of The Night I Dropped Shakespeare on the Cat, a collection of prose=20 poems, flash fiction and essays. The event begins at 7:30 p.m. May 20 - Portland: Rachel Zolf reads at Portland's famed Spare Room=20 Reading Series with Vancouver poet Natalie Simpson. The Spare Room=20 reading is hosted by the New American Art Union (922 SE Ankeny Street)=20= and starts at 7:30 p.m. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * About Human Resources: Poetry and =91plain language=92 collide in the writing machine = that is=20 Human Resources. Here at the intersection of creation and repackaging,=20= we experience the visceral and psychic cost of selling things with=20 depleted words. Pilfered rhetorics fed into the machine are spit out as=20= bungled associations among money, shit, culture, work and=20 communication. With the help of online engines that numericize=20 language, Human Resources explores writing as a process of encryption. Deeply inflected by the polyvocality and encoded rhetorics of = the=20 screen, Human Resources is perched at the limits of language,=20 irreverently making and breaking meaning. Navigating the crumbling=20 boundaries among page, screen, reader, engine, writer and database,=20 Human Resources investigates wasting words and words as waste =96 and = the=20 creative potential of salvage. Written by Rachel Zolf (Masque), who works days as a corporate=20= communications consultant, churning out language to fire employees=20 gently or convince them to toe the corporate line, Human Resources=20 =91repurposes=92 for artistic ends the words and energy she wastes = daily.=20 The book exposes the codes =96 programming codes, social codes, = political=20 codes =96 that we live under every day that tell us how to act, what to=20= buy, who to love, who to bomb. =91In this badmouthing and incandescent burlesque, Rachel Zolf = transforms=20 a necessary social anger into the pure fuel that takes us to =93the=20 beautiful excess of the unshackled referent.=94 We learn something new=20= about guts, and about how dictions slip across one another, entwining,=20= shimmering, wisecracking. For Zolf, political invention takes=20 precedent, works the search engine.=94 =96 Lisa Robertson For more information, do not hesitate to contact me. Yours, Evan ------------------------------ Evan Munday Publicist Coach House Books 401 Huron St. (rear) on bpNichol Lane Toronto ON, M5S 2G5 416.979.2217 evan@chbooks.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:34:16 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Kelleher Subject: Reviewers Needed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Dear Poetics List, I edit a review column for Artvoice, the local alternative weekly (circulation 60,000), and I am looking for 300-400 word reviews of new poetry books. These are unpaid, but we will send you hardcopy of the review when it is printed. As long as books are published in the last year and are available for purchase, they are eligible. Also, publishers, if you want your books considered, please send review copies to me at the address below. _______________________ Michael Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center Market Arcade 617 Main St., Suite 202A Buffalo, NY 14203 t. 716.832.5400 f. 716.270.0184 http://www.justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 03:49:37 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christophe Casamassima Subject: CFP: Romantic Objects (International Conference on Romanticism at Towson University and Loyola College, Baltimore) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 This year=92s conference theme asks participants to consider the=20 objects of Romantic study. This broad topic can apply to the goals=20 of our own intellectual and academic inquiry (the state of the=20 field), the pursuits-literary, philosophical, political,=20 theological, and so on-of Romantic authors, as well as to the=20 material things that provoke these goals and pursuits. What are=20 Romantic objects? How are they defined and expressed? What kinds=20 of responses do objects demand? Preliminary topics include, but are not limited to, the following: * Objects in material culture and the =93universe of things=94 * The body as an object of desire, of value, of exchange * Objects understood as aims, goals, pursuits and projects * Imaginary objects-nations, ideals, identities * Objects as defining subjects The organizers hope to receive a variety of approaches to and=20 interpretations of this admittedly-and, one hopes,=20 suggestively-broad topic. The conference organizers are Fran Botkin, Department of English,=20 Towson University; and Erin M. 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Thanks, Bruce Holsapple ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:04:21 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William Allegrezza Subject: Cracked Slab Reading iN New York MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cracked Slab Books will have a reading in New York to launch its new anthology, The City Visible: Chicago Poetry for the New Century. The reading will take place on Monday, May 14th, at the Poetry Project at St. Marks in New York. The readers will include: Kristy Odelius Simone Muench Bill Allegrezza Joel Felix. Please come hear some Chicago poets read and pick up your copy of The City Visible. Bill Allegrezza Cracked Slab Books http://crackedslabbooks.com (You can also order your copy online. The book is not available through SPD yet but will be soon.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:49:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tisa Bryant Subject: Postponed: May 12 Encyclopedia Fundraiser at Galapagos Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, The fundraiser for The Encyclopedia Project, May 12, 7-9:30pm, at Galapagos Art Space in Brooklyn, has been postponed until further notice. We intend to reschedule soon, and host an amazing event full of generous talent! Best, Tisa Bryant The Encyclopedia Project www.encyclopediaproject.org ____________________________________________ I searched, but I could not find You; I called You aloud, standing on the minaret; I rang the temple bell with the rising and setting of the sun; I bathed in the Ganges in vain; I came back from Kaaba disappointed; I looked for You in earth; I searched for You in heaven, my Beloved, but at last I have found You hidden as a pearl in the shell of my heart. Complete Sayings, Hazrat Inayat Khan ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:37:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 5/11 - 5/16 In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dears, It=B9d be so nice to see you. Love, The Poetry Project Friday, May 11, 6:00 pm *note the early start time! A Glorious Celebratory Festival Of Brief Readings From Some Recently Published & Highly Awesome Chapbooks To be Followed By Revelry A group reading curated by Matthew Zapruder (author of American Linden (Tupelo Press, 2002) and The Pajamaist (Copper Canyon, 2006), celebrating poetry from recently released award-winning and self-published chapbooks, featuring Dottie Lasky, Valzhyna Mort, Dan Chelotti, Kate Hall, Cindy King, Betsy Wheeler, Travis Nichols, Monica Fambrough, Lori Shine, Kathy Ossip, Cole Heinowitz and Stephanie Ruth Anderson. Please visit http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php for reader bios. Note the early start time of this Friday night event! Monday, May 14, 8:00 pm The City Visible: Chicago Poetry For The New Century Poets featured in the anthology The City Visible: Chicago Poetry For The Ne= w Century, published by Cracked Slab Books, will read to celebrate its publication. William Allegrezza is the editor of moria and the editor-in-chief of Cracked Slab Books. His book Fragile Replacements is coming out in 2007 with Meritage Press. Joel Felix edits the journal LVNG with Peter and Michael O=B9Leary. He is the author of the chapbooks Catch and Release and Monaural. Simone Muench=B9s first book The Air Lost in Breathing won the Marianne Moore Prize for Poetry and her second Lampblack & Ash received the Kathryn A. Morton Prize. She is a contributing editor to Sharkforum. Kristy Odelius is a co-founder of Near South, a Chicago-based journal of innovative writing. Her poems, essays and reviews have appeared in Chicago Review, Pavement Saw, La Petite Zine, Combo, Diagram and others. Wednesday, May 16, 8:00 pm Charles Bernstein & Tracie Morris Charles Bernstein's most recent books are Girly Man and With Strings, both from the University of Chicago Press. Green Integer published the libretto and NMC the CD of Shadowtime, an opera with music by Brian Ferneyhough. Author page at epc.buffalo.edu. Tracie Morris is an interdisciplinary poet who has worked in extensively as a sound poet and multimedia performer. Her most recent musical recording has been with composer Elliot Sharp for his group, Terraplane. Morris was awarded a PhD in Performance Studies from New York University in 2006. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.com/membership.php Spring Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.com. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:55:19 -0700 Reply-To: aklobuca@capcollege.bc.ca Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Andrew Klobucar Organization: Capilano College Subject: New Issue of Capilano Review with Launch party Info: If you're in Vancouver next week... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THE CAPILANO REVIEW + Upgrade! Vancouver Present Special Launch Party for TCR 2.50 "Artifice & Intelligence" guest edited by Andrew Klobucar with a panel discussion on Technology and Aesthetics featuring Jim Andrews, Kate Armstrong, David Jhave Johnston, Laura Marks, Sandra Seekins, and Darren Wershler-Henry May 17 2007 Join us for food, drinks with music and live a/v environments by CineCitta: 7:30pm Panel discussion: 8pm Intersections Digital Studios Emily Carr Institute of Art + Design 1399 Johnston Street, Granville Island Supported by The Canada Council for the Arts, Capilano College, Upgrade! Vancouver, & Emily Carr Institute for Art and Design. Darren Wershler-Henry appears courtesy of Capilano College's new Creative Writing Program reading series OPEN TEXT. Carol L. Hamshaw Managing Editor The Capilano Review 604-984-1712 http://www.thecapilanoreview.ca ORDER ONLINE WITH SECURE PAYMENT ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:58:27 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Potree Journal Subject: The first issue of Little Red Leaves is now online! Comments: To: marcia arrieta , derek beaulieu , Jason Christie , thom donovan , "r.farr@att.net" , Skip Fox , Elisa Gabbert , Michalle Gould , Arielle Greenberg , Geoffrey Hlibchuk , Victoria Hsieh , Ofelia Hunt , Laura Navratil , Francis Raven , "SLIDINGSCA@aol.com" , Elizabeth Treadwell , Sara Veglahn , Joshua Marie Wilkinson , Juliana Leslie , Betsy Fagin , kate@kickingwind.com, Christine Hume , julia drescher , selby32 , cm49600@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The inaugural issue of Little Red Leaves features poems by Marcia Arrieta, Derek Beaulieu, Jason Christie, Thom Donovan, Raymond Farr, Skip Fox, Elisa Gabbert, Michalle Gould, Arielle Greenberg, Geoffrey Hlibchuk, Victoria Hsieh, Ofelia Hunt, Laura Navratil, Francis Raven, Larissa Shmailo, Elizabeth Treadwell, Sara Veglahn, and Joshua Marie Wilkinson. Issue one also includes a selection from the first Dos Press chapbook, featuring poems by Hoa Nguyen, Carter Smith, and Andrea Strudensky. Please stop by and have a look--we're really proud to feature such great work in our first issue... The Editors www.littleredleaves.com www.littleredleavesjournal.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 02:34:16 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: blacksox@ATT.NET Subject: Jazz and Poetry at The Screening Room May 16th (BfLO) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Attachment 1: SRMay16.jpg (image/jpeg) - Former homeboy, Russ Golata, doing it big down in Orlando, FL. Awards, hosting reading series, notoriety galore. It will be good to hear his voice again in the S.R. Quietly political, then bang, it hits ya! New book(s) out also. -Also, long time established poet, educator, Loren Keller will share some of his magical poems from his various collections of writings. The heart awakens under his voice as his words brings us into that moment, that time in the poem he is sharing with us. -Along with Januarius Kim Welch - Oustanding urban poet. He gets you with his urban edge, business wit and profound love for life and all that it holds. Detroit's loss is WNY's gain (or maybe we will be kind enough to share)! Guest Co-Host: Marge Merrill (We know her magic!) House band -BASS & CO. featuring Odell Northington, William Murphy, of the William Murphy Quartet, and possibly other outstanding musicians, plan on being in the house. Screening Room Reading Series (3rd Wed. of each month)- Located in the Northtown Plaza Business Center, 3131 Sheridan Dr. (837-0376). Parking & entrance located in area behind Tom’s at Bailey & Sheridan across from Orville’s Appliances. Admission is $2. Time 7:15 (sign-up) – 9:30. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 04:02:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Re: New Issue of Capilano Review with Launch party Info: If you're in Vancouver next week... In-Reply-To: <01b401c79356$49ba38c0$6501a8c0@mothership> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit It's great to see The Capilano Review publishing an issue on digital writing/art in Vancouver. The essay I have in this issue of TCR is the first thing I've published in a Canadian literary journal since the early nineties. Many thanks to Andrew Klobucar for his terrific work on this issue. I'm looking forward to the launch evening. ja > THE http://tinyurl.com/2oryv7 CAPILANO REVIEW + Upgrade! Vancouver Present > Special Launch Party for TCR 2.50 > > "Artifice & Intelligence" > guest edited by Andrew Klobucar > > with a panel discussion on Technology and Aesthetics featuring > > Jim Andrews, Kate Armstrong, David Jhave Johnston, > Laura Marks, Sandra Seekins, and Darren Wershler-Henry > > > > May 17 2007 > > Join us for food, drinks with music and live a/v environments by > CineCitta: > 7:30pm > Panel discussion: 8pm > > Intersections Digital Studios > Emily Carr Institute of Art + Design > 1399 Johnston Street, Granville Island > > > > Supported by The Canada Council for the Arts, Capilano College, Upgrade! > Vancouver, & Emily Carr Institute for Art and Design. > > Darren Wershler-Henry appears courtesy of Capilano College's new Creative > Writing Program reading series OPEN TEXT. > > > > Carol L. Hamshaw > Managing Editor > The Capilano Review > 604-984-1712 > > http://www.thecapilanoreview.ca ORDER ONLINE WITH SECURE PAYMENT > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 07:15:42 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Fieled Subject: Allegrezza, Sherlock, Baus, Fieled: Philly, 5/12 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm happy to present a gathering of poets tomorrow, May 12, at Molly's Books, on 9th Street in the Italian Market, South Philly, 7 pm. The poets: Bill Allegrezza, Frank Sherlock, Eric Baus, and Adam Fieled. Please come and join us for a swell springtime reading... Love, Ad http://www.adamfieled.blogspot.com http://www.artrecess.blogspot.com http://www.andrewlundwall.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:11:14 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron Belz Subject: new belz blog Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit For those who care (and I know there are a lot of you), I have a new blog. http://belz.wordpress.com Belz ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 10:47:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Stricker Subject: nanomajority #3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Announcing issue #3 of nanomajority (www.nanomajority.com): "project gutenberg by vividness" by Richard Hasty This project is a whimsical index to more than four thousand English language texts in Project Gutenberg (www.gutenberg.org). The texts are arranged by the degree to which they contain vivid words, and the titles are displayed in colors according to the color values of the words they contain. The index keys are words which have also been ordered by vividness. "convergence" by Bill Mieloch With the explosion of user-created content online in the past few years, and given that the audio-visual part of this content cannot exist without some form of textual labeling, whether in the form of actual file names or through individually or socially based tagging, I have noticed the potential for our verbal and visual languages to converge in this digital environment.... To explore this idea, I performed simple, one-word queries of the image search section of the three search engines most commonly used by English-speaking people, Google, MSN and Yahoo. I then created line drawings of the highest ranked images that resulted from these word searches. I combined these words, and subsequent images, to create somewhat abstract phrases, while trying to include a word in each phrase that would illustrate a tangible object or idea. "selections from 'limb by limb: the collected letters of dk'" by Della Watson my dear e, a breath's worth of space by the word, the world, it floods us, like light through a window. we rehearsed our hymns. beyond the cross, the shedding sycamores stand, bone after bone. _____ took hand into clamshell palms. catherine's toes found her shoes. my longing walks beneath the bare branches. as sermon has turned our eyes to signs, we should--__________--know by now. yours, d k ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:35:39 -0700 Reply-To: jspahr@mills.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Juliana Spahr Subject: green integer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone know the year that green integer begins publishing? if so, please back channel. i'm working on a paper. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 10:43:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Ghost Walks - Poets House 'Anthology'. Comments: cc: UK@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ Currently on my blog is a little sequence of "Ghost Walks" (photographs and texts) that I presented for the 'Walking Panel' at Poets House this past Friday. At the moment, I am working on a piece on the Saturday walk, tentatively entitled, with a tip of the hat to Lisa Robertson, "Soft Architecture meets SOHO, Chinatown & Tribeca." For those interested, more of that later! In fact, more on my new book, Walking Theory (Junction Press), also later. Stephen Vincent http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 10:57:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Eric Dickey Subject: Re: green integer Comments: To: jspahr@mills.edu In-Reply-To: <46449B5B.1020006@hawaii.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Juliana, I read your This connection of everyone with lungs. Thank you for writing it. Best, Eric Wayne Dickey Corvallis, Oregon Juliana Spahr wrote: does anyone know the year that green integer begins publishing? if so, please back channel. i'm working on a paper. --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:18:38 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: John Cage - Water Walk In-Reply-To: <224461.28394.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Someone posted this Cage composition to another listserv -- it reminds me of a landscape: http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/04/john_cage_on_a_.html --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 16:58:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Dr. Barry S. Alpert" Subject: Propped-Up Poet Laureates Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed During his inauguration last fall,, Donald Hall made it clear that reading with his British counterpart would be his major initiative during his reign as poet laureate. Personally, I've been amazed at how much more mass visibility the U.S. figureheads have garnered since the title "consultant in poetry" was replaced by "poet laureate". Barry Alpert _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storage—get 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 15:56:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Poetry Project hires new Artistic Director In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear Everyone, The Poetry Project is delighted to announce that poet Stacy Szymaszek has been hired to be the Project=B9s new Artistic Director. Stacy=B9s tenure will begin July 1, 2007. The Artistic Director is basically artistic and executive director rolled into one, responsible for everything from programming to paper clips. She sets the tone for and guides the Project through nine months of annual programming =AD now in its 41st season, the Poetry Project offers a Wednesday night readings series, a Monday night reading/performance series, a Friday late-night series, 6-10 weekly writing workshops per season, a quarterly newsletter a (revamped) website at www.poetryproject.com, a stripped-down literary mag The Recluse, and extensive audio and document archives. The Poetry Project is also a 501-c-3 non-profit & raises money in about a thousand different ways, and so the A.D. runs that ship as well as managing staff, paying the bills, working with St. Mark=B9s Church, putting away chairs after readings, and working wit= h the ever-growing and shifting entity known as the community. Stacy Szymaszek was born and raised in Milwaukee, WI. From 1999 to 2005, sh= e was the Literary Program Manager for the nonprofit literary organization Woodland Pattern Book Center. Her extensive curatorial and editorial work during this period helped galvanize a community of poets in the Midwest region with Woodland Pattern serving as one of several meeting places. In 2005 she answered the call to move to New York to serve as the Program Coordinator at the Poetry Project at St. Mark=B9s Church. This year, she also served as the Monday Night Coordinator. She is the author of several chapbooks including Mutual Aid (gong press, 2004), Some Mariners (Etherdome= , 2004), There Were Hostilities (repair, 2005), Pasolini Poems (Cy Press, 2005) and from hyperglossia (Belladonna Books, 2005). Her first book, Emptied of All Ships, was published in 2005 and her second book hyperglossi= a is forthcoming in 2009, both with Litmus Press. Her work appears in the recent anthology For the Time- Being: The Bootstrap Book of Poetic Journals= , as well as in numerous journals and web-zines. She is also a coeditor with Instance Press, contributing editor of Fascicle and editor of the poetry magazine Gam. =20 Work by Stacy Szymaszek: =20 http://bostonreview.net/BR30.1/sampler.html http://www.fascicle.com/issue01/Poets/szymaszek2.htm =20 =20 Interviews with Stacy Szymaszek: =20 http://www.kickingwind.com/5406.html http://www.chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/Stacy.htm =20 Review of Emptied of All Ships: =20 http://jacketmagazine.com/28/sims-szym.html Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.com/membership.php Spring Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.com. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 18:04:48 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: North-4 Text-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable North-4 Text-1 http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/North/North-4/text-1.htm Introduction: http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/North/Intro.htm Notes:=20 Designed for screen resolution: 1024x768. Text size: Medium. Monitor: = 17" or larger. MS Explorer preferred.=20 Paratext boxes opened by holding curser over words.=20 -Joel ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 18:53:16 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: heidi arnold Subject: thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline colleagues, this is just a note to thank you all for the large community , and for the variety of perspectives, the stark differences, and the wide range of insight and interpretation -- i am mostly offline these days -- and behind reading my e-mail -- i have felt concerned that my sort of willingness to take issue with some things could in fact be taken as a kind of perverse ingratitude -- or if a gift is not accepted, that must be ingratitude -- that was never the case and is not the case -- -- everything is gift, i read that somewhere -- in dealing with an art form that innerness gets hugely magnified thank you! heidi -- www.heidiarnold.org http://peaceraptor.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 15:19:43 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: small chapbook project In-Reply-To: <042720070121.28160.463150320004B07000006E002207021633050C07020E099F@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Oh, I forgot to mention. I hope that a PDF file retains the correct formatting. As for instance, the placement of the asterixes in the Yeats poem. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 16:57:44 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rebecca Weaver Subject: Midway #3 live / call for work In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Issue three of Midway Journal is now live! Also, a reminder: our submissions period is open until June 1. While we appreciate receiving poems, plays, fiction, multi-genre work, and interviews, we're especially in need of some non-fiction (see our call for submissions page and click on "non-fiction"). Happy May! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 06:56:09 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Chicago and New York Readings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Haas Bianchi [mailto:saudade@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:42 AM To: 'UB Poetics discussion group' Subject: The City Visible Chicago Poetry for the New Century -The City Visible:Chicago Poetry for the New Century www.crackedslabbooks.com As many of you know Cracked Slab Books has been working on an anthology of Innovative poetry from Chicago and region. Monday May 14th is the publication date for The City Visible:Chicago Poetry for the New Century, edited by Ray Bianchi and William Allegrezza. This week we will have two kick off readings. Here are some of the poets featured in City Visible Edited by William Allegrezza and Raymond Bianchi Introducion by Paul Hoover William Allegrezza Kristy Odelius Joel Felix Simone Muench Raymond Bianchi Mark Tardi Kerri Sonnenberg Chris Glomski Erica Bernheim Robyn Schiff Arielle Greenberg Ed Roberson Jennifer Scappettone Skrikanth Reddy Peter O'Leary Michael O'Leary Cecilia Pinto Garin Cycholl Tim Yu Jesse Seldess Brenda Cardenas Chuck Stebelton Jorge Sanchez Roberto Harrison Laura Sims John Tipton William Fuller Maxine Chernoff Paul Hoover Monday May 14th 8 PM at the Poetry Project in New York Readers William Allegrezza Kristy Odelius Joel Felix Simone Muench Thursday May 17th 7 PM CDT Powells North Series, at Powell's Bookstore on Lincoln of the School of the Art Institute of Chicago Readers Raymond Bianchi Mark Tardi Kerri Sonnenberg Chris Glomski Erica Bernheim The book is available from our website www.crackedslabbooks.com and from SPD, Amazon, Barnes and Noble and fine bookstores. We will be doing more readings in Chicago, Milwaukee, Los Angeles, Atlanta and Cincinnati over the next few months. Review Copies are also available for request. See you all Monday and Thursday Ray Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 06:55:16 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: North-4 Text-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's cursor. Sorry. -Joel North-4 Text-1 http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/North/North-4/text-1.htm Introduction: http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/North/Intro.htm Notes:=20 Designed for screen resolution: 1024x768. Text size: Medium. Monitor: = 17" or larger. MS Explorer preferred.=20 Paratext boxes opened by holding curser over words.=20 -Joel ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 01:00:25 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: roaring burn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed roaring burn roaring doesn't get rid of the nightmare. burned the skin off several in the vicinity. wood screams to the sky burns. ash burns. cinders burn. coals burn. i asked cylinder.node.avatar c.n.a. cna: help me on this one and i'll let you go. now i don't know where they are. roaring burn. roaring burn. my dreamland is your nightmare. roaring propitiation and dark matter. quasars and cut-off hands. created gods fell into water. suicide not science the solution. i'll let you go but i'll track you down. cylinder roaring burn. avatar roaring burn. world-node puppet fury roaring burn. roaring burn. roaring burn. i am on fire for you. my arms are on fire for you. my face is on fire for you. my legs are on fire for you. my friends are on fire for you. my family are roaring burn. my family are on fire. i am burning for you. i am roaring burn. roaring burn. roaring burn. help me on this one and i'll burn you alive. avatar-burning-world cylinder-burning-world. burning-world-node and bridge to salvation. salvation and i'll burn you alive. roaring burn. roaring burn. fire went in the mouth. fire took form of the organ of speech. fire took form of speech. fire speaking help me out of this one. manifold body roaring burn. fire went in the body. fire went in the speech. roaring burn of the organ of speech. my tongue is on fire for them. my tongue is on fire for them. roaring burn. http://www.asondheim.org/burn.mp4 http://www.asondheim.org/burn.mp4 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 07:53:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Shanna Compton -- Poetry Foundation Comments: To: new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu In-Reply-To: <20070503083442.AFC83269@mirapoint.jcu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Just Get the Poems Out There: How one writer found her home among the poet bloggers." http://www.poetryfoundation.org/features/feature.onpoetry.html?id=179635 --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey folks, I started a review blog the other day and should be posting a couple times a week: http://anybook.blogspot.com xo, Ken -- Check out my new book Key Bridge: http://www.carolinawrenpress.org/books.html Reviews of Key Bridge: Ron Silliman: http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-know-ken-rumble-originally-from-his.html Mathias Svalina: http://mathiassvalina.blogspot.com/2007/03/key-bridge.html John Deming/Coldfront Magazine: http://reviews.coldfrontmag.com/2007/03/key_bridge_by_k.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 09:00:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Check Out Our New Look! Comments: To: new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, WOM-PO@LISTS.USM.MAINE.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MiPOesias is now publishing in PDF format, which will allow readers and educators with a penchant for the page to print and distribute material easily. Each PDF contains the work of one poet, a photo, a bio, and a mini-interview. MiPOesias’ PDFs are available for free download via: 1. MiPOesias’ main page -- http://www.mipoesias.com, 2. ITunes -- Link located at the bottom of our main page -- or search “MiPOesias Magazine” in ITunes, 3. And in the archived feed, along with many stellar past contributors to MiPOesias -- http://feeds.feedburner.com/MipoesiasMagazineRevistaLiteraria -------- Recent work – Jasmine Dream Wagner – http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/Jasmine_Dreame_Wagner.pdf Lina ramona Vitkauskas -- http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/Lina_ramona_Vitkauskas.pdf Cate Peebles – http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/peebles_cate.pdf Todd Colby – http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/colby_todd.pdf Will Edmiston – http://www.mipoesias.com/2007/edmiston_will.htm Amber Reed – http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/Amber_Reed.pdf Sandra Simonds – http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/Sandra_Simonds.pdf Megan Volpert -- http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/MeganVolpert1.pdf Marty Hebrank -- http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/MartyHebrank2.pdf Diana Adams -- http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/DianaAdams22.pdf Bernard Henrie – http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/henrie_bernard.pdf Matt Shears – http://media.libsyn.com/media/miporadio/Matt_Shears.pdf Rosanna Lee -- http://cache.libsyn.com/miporadio/Rosanna_Lee.pdf Thanks for reading! Didi Menendez – Publisher Amy King – Editor in Chief Meghan Punschke – Managing Editor Michael Parker – Reviews Editor Dan Coffey – Reviews Editor April Carter-Grant – Production Assistant http://www.mipoesias.com/ --------- Forthcoming Guest-Edited Issues by David Trinidad, K.S. Mohammad, and Emma Trellis. --------- Guest-Edited Issues Evie Shockley -- http://www.mipoesias.com/EVIESHOCKLEYISSUE Nick Carbo -- http://www.mipoesias.com/Asian-American2007 Gabriel Gudding -- http://www.mipoesias.com/Volume19Issue3Gudding/ David Trinidad -- http://www.mipoesias.com/April2004/ Tom Beckett -- http://www.mipoesias.com/2006/corriente.html ---------- --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 10:39:31 -0500 Reply-To: dgodston@sbcglobal.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Godston Subject: Mingus Awareness Project In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wednesday, May 23 an outstanding lineup of jazz musicians and a remarkable poet will gather at HotHouse (31 E. Balbo Avenue in Chicago) to celebrate the life and music of Charles Mingus, and to benefit the Les Turner ALS Foundation. Mingus, an American musical hero who died of ALS, is one of the greatest figures in jazz history. His bass playing, compositions and philosophy have transcended his genre and left indelible marks on music history. The Mingus Awareness Project performers include: Jeff Marx -- tenor saxophone Ben Gray -- drums Joel Wanek -- upright bass Ed Roberson -- poetry Bill MacKay -- electric guitar Jon Godston -- soprano saxophone Dan Godston -- trumpet The evening's program will include amazing songs such as "Goodbye Porkpie Hat," "Better Get Hit in Your Soul," "Moanin" and "Prayer for Passive Resistance." Additionally, band members will perform numbers by such notable artists as Rahsaan Roland Kirk and Eric Dolphy. Admission for this event is $12 ($8 for students). Tickets can also be purchased in advance at www.hothouse.net for $10. Attendees will also have the opportunity to participate in a raffle for the chance to win concert tickets and other exciting prizes. All proceeds from the evening will be donated to the Les Turner ALS Foundation, located in Skokie, Ill. Established in 1977, the Les Turner ALS Foundation is recognized internationally and is the only independent, publicly supported non-profit organization in the Chicago area dedicated solely to the treatment and elimination of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). The Foundation is affiliated with Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine where it supports both clinical care and scientific research. The Les Turner ALS Foundation's services are available to all ALS patients and caregivers, regardless of where they receive their medical care. The Foundation's comprehensive patient services include support group meetings, professional in-home consultation services, communications and durable medical equipment programs; respite care grants and many educational programs. For more information about this event, please call Dan Godston at 312.543.7027. For more information about the Les Turner ALS Foundation, please contact 847.679.3311 or events@lesturnerals.org. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 12:08:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Wilcox Subject: Uncle Walt's Birthday Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Celebrate the Birthday of Walt Whitman at the Robert Burns Statue Washington Park, Albany, NY A reading of =93Song of Myself=94 by local poets & other citizens Thursday, May 31, 2007 6:00 PM rain or shine free presented by the Poetry Motel Foundation & the Hudson Valley Writers Guild You may sign up to read by emailing me at dwlcx@earthlink.net, or sign up on the night of the reading. We will be reading the "deathbed version" from the last Leaves of Grass. There are 52 sections. If you have a favorite section, sign up now to read that section. Be sure to bring a chair or blanket to sit on. "In Albany, every day is Poetry Month!" -- check out dwlcx.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 12:31:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Barrett Watten Subject: How *The Grand Piano* Is Being Written Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Further on *The Grand Piano*: Comments & Links http://www.english.wayne.edu/fac%5Fpages/ewatten/posts/post34.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 18:02:56 -0400 Reply-To: az421@freenet.carleton.ca Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: new(ish) on rob's clever blog MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT new(ish) on rob's clever blog -- The TREE READING SERIES, Ottawa -- Seminal: The Anthology of Canada's Gay Male Poets, eds. John Barton and Billeh Nickerson -- poem for some of the closer planets (poem) -- Ongoing notes: early May, 2007 (UGLY: an instant spoken word chapbook anthology, Fredericton NB: Broken Jaw Press; No Press, Calgary; Ian Roy's Red Bird, Buschek Books) -- Unveiling / Marianne Moore by John Taggart -- Poetics.ca #7 (finally!) now on-line -- Bill Knott and Ron Padgett, Proper Tales Press -- C.D. Wright's One Big Self: an investigation -- Marita Dachsel's all things said & done -- Phyllis Webb and the Common Good: Poetry / Anarchy / Abstraction by Stephen Collis -- the camrose review: a journal of lutheran thought -- Ron Silliman's The Age of Huts (compleat) -- Sonnet L'Abbé's killarnoe -- festival notes, day seven & eight, we stay up late (or, "fear & loathing at the ottawa international writers festival") -- Press Release ; Archibald Lampman Award merges with Duncan Campbell Scott Foundation -- festival notes, day five & five & sixsixsix www.robmclennan.blogspot.com + some other new things at ottawa poetry newsletter, www.ottawapoetry.blogspot.com + some other other new things at the Chaudiere Books blog, www.chaudierebooks.blogspot.com -- poet/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...13th poetry coll'n - The Ottawa City Project .... c/o 858 Somerset St W, Ottawa ON K1R 6R7 * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 06:22:54 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Crockett Subject: New recruiting campaign MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *May 13th, 2007 * Our recruiting effort seems to be failing. There was an immediate spike of interest, but I have analyzed this to be a phenomenon in contemporary perception inside the privileged and professional sector. You see, the so-called smart people are busy working to think faster than the pervasive sloganizing, which leads them to make snap decisions of merit and quickly lose interest in ideas which do not seem to be entirely controllable in the domain of their more reticulated egos. Instead of looking for a very small team of privileged, creative geniuses, we need to approach more everyday people, and sort of like the military, enlist them in a phasing camp of preparation for diligent work over the coming two or more years. Except in our camp there will be no spitting and shouting in their faces, but an immediate influx of good vibes and honest integration into a team with real goals and real rewards for good work, which may be the definitive collegial atmosphere. This is Kansas City, not Palo Alto or Cambridge. Though we are located in the wealthiest region of the metro area, we will now focus on reaching out to people with everyday hopes and expectations, letting the more privileged candidates head off in conventional routes to wealth, importance, and nobility to places like Stanford and MIT, yet they too are vulnerable at the notion promising that Ivy degrees are, and always will be, a golden ticket. How much longer can we expect a company like Google to focus their recruiting effort on people who have probably never really wanted desperately for anything ever in their lives, have never had to accept and reconcile a powerful want and then make peace and progress in the sphere of everyday expectation? *Tags ::* human system , recruiting | ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:14:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Wilcox Subject: Third Thursday Poetry Night, Albany, May 17 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed the Poetry Motel Foundation presents Third Thursday Poetry Night at the Social Justice Center 33 Central Ave., Albany, NY Thursday, May 17, 2007=09 7:00 sign up; 7:30 start Featured Poet: John Raymond with open mic for poets before & after the feature $3.00 donation. Your host since 1997: Dan Wilcox. (If you think you=92ve seen this notice previously, you have: John was=20= originally scheduled to read in February & we had to cancel because of=20= the snowstorm =96 who says there are no second chances?) John Raymond is a local rapscallion who is coming out of=A0seclusion to=20= take part in the Open Mic scene.=A0 He enjoys=A0music, backpacking, and=20= smoked meats. =A0 Sheet Music =A0 The pushers of the rattling shopping carts on the=A0five a.m. street sift through the discarded cores of last night's fruit and the crows crow their graveled songs and her hair one strand on the bed curls like a G clef shivering with the turning of a small creaking fan =A0## ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 13:02:55 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: eric unger Subject: Spell magazine: seeking submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Spell: Issue #4 Spell magazine is currently seeking unpublished work for its fourth issue. Please send up to 12 pages as a word doc, pdf, tif, or jpg file. Especially of interest is work that is in progress (emerging), or somehow constructed differently than your normal working process (experimental). Please feel free to interperet these parameters as they might pertain to you. While the focus of Spell is mainly textual and visual poetry, artwork will also be considered. Familiarity with Spell and/or its past contributors is encouraged. The reading period will last until July 15th. Send submissions to: eric.ungerATgmailDOTcom Eric Unger For additional info, go to: spellmag.livejournal.com housepress.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 19:52:42 -0700 Reply-To: editor@pavementsaw.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Baratier Subject: Kaya Oakes Telegraph reading Berkeley May 15th MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kaya Oakes will be reading at Pegasus Books in downtown Berkeley CA on Tuesday, May 15th at 7:30 pm Kaya Oakes' work has appeared in Conduit, Volt, MiPoesias, Coconut, Shampoo, and many other journals. The recipient of awards and grants from the Academy of American Poets and the Bay Area Writing Project, she is also the senior editor of Kitchen Sink Magazine, and she teaches writing at the University of California, Berkeley. PEGASUS BOOKS DOWNTOWN 2349 Shattuck Avenue Berkeley, CA 94704 510.649.1320 TELEGRAPH by Kaya Oakes ISBN: 978-1-886350-43-4 Winner of the Transcontinental Poetry Prize (editor's choice, 2006) 80 pages, 6 by 9, $14 Her book can be ordered here http://pavementsaw.org/books/telegraph.htm First books often offer versions of resurrection and Kaya Oakes' moving debut in TELEGRAPH charts a coming back to life with uncompromising lucidity and sorrow. In poetry rife with a bodily knowledge of the inherent “second-ness” of women’s history, Oakes writes for the one and the many, Elektra her guide in the passage. “I wonder if this earth meant anything when I leant my form to it,” the personae wonders in the final poem, and wonderfully, readers will find that it does, thanks to the earnest care of Kaya Oakes' making. --Claudia Keelan --------------------------------------- Elektra in the offices Barefoot and ripe with new embarrassment Elektra walks up three floors, trying not to sweat Constriction in her thighs, those red bands drawn tight and everyone who waited without knowing her was blind would receive her in a spotless blackness reserved for those who have forgotten seeing means we learned to feel in blindness, too. You ought to have gone with her, years ago. That was when it was easier to feel through things by pulling those last strands of someone’s hair and wrapping up your fingers with them, like a tourniquet. Elektra cuts her hair in bathrooms where her shape is strange where the windows stay shut, even on the hottest nights nail scissors in half-drunk bathrooms where she doesn’t live. While shots go off outside, the scissors scrape and pull. She climbs the stairs climbed so many times before. She has no one on her side, she has handwriting and flowers gathered in a backyard where her scalp burned pink while the afternoons fed anorexic evenings and the day’s fluorescence never dimmed; unsure, unripe, unready. Still the pounding rocks her steps as innocents file past her. One hand, one knife, one brother burning somewhere in the city, The man is upstairs, working, or failing at his work and practicing his oaths. But nothing stops the inevitable click of the door that yields to business. Be well David Baratier, Editor Pavement Saw Press PO Box 6291 Columbus, OH 43206 http://pavementsaw.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 20:00:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: the optical MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed the optical the optical asserts itself as punctum-turned-filter, the return of the an- alogic within the digital. punctum {1} expands into the optical continuum through a field transformation {x1,y1} > {x2,y2}. adjacent elements may remain adjacent but any geometrical transformation more or less assures that there are at least some elements that will no longer remain so. the optical tends towards the puzzle; the punctum is those elements remaining constant in the transformation of vector elements on the surface of a sphere. every distortion is an artistic transform; some appear more artis- tic than other. how much chaos does an image tolerate - transforms into how much chaos delights the perceiver / to what extent is the original image phenomenologically identifiable? but there are times when true joy emerges, when the apparent real apparently shudders - when the viewer shudders - as the real re/presents itself, and the punctum dissolves. for the imaginary of the punctum is still the origin, and we rid ourselves of that. http://www.asondheim.org/trawl.mov the trawl scrapes earth or sky, taking everything along with it, irrupting surfaces, constructing an un- recognizable real. the trawl transforms the planet, what is visible every- where, the world turned upside-down, inside-out, reconstituted and mirror- ed. beauty is the return of the symmetricized gift of the real. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:41:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Nomadics Blog Back On, In & Around the Premises! Comments: cc: Casa della poesia , Britis-Irish List , Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nomadics blog is back after a 2-months hiatus, Check out recent posts: The Monday Night Experimental Cabaret Paris, bis, & on Luxembourg, March. Back, & a new book. Click this: http://pjoris.blogspot.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "It may well be the case that one has to wait a long time to find out hwether the title of avant-garde is deserved." =97 Jean-Fran=E7ois Lyotard =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pierre Joris 244 Elm Street Albany NY 12202 h: 518 426 0433 c: 518 225 7123 o: 518 442 40 71 Euro cell: (011 33) 6 75 43 57 10 email: joris@albany.edu http://pierrejoris.com Nomadics blog: http://pjoris.blogspot.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 21:11:57 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Matt Henriksen Subject: Fri 5/18 ~ Zach Barocas & Shafer Hall ~ Brooklyn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Burning Chair Readings would like to warn you that you ne= =0A=0AThe Burning Chair Readings=0A=0A=0Awould like to warn you that you ne= ver know what might=0Ahappen=0A=0A=0Awhen you show up to hear=0A=0A=0A =0A= =0A=0AZach Barocas & Shafer Hall=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0AFriday, May 18th, 7:30 P= M=0A=0A=0Aat The Fall Caf=E9=0A=0A=0A307 Smith Street=0A=0A=0Abetween Union= & President=0A=0A=0AF/G to Carroll Street=0ACarroll Gardens, Brooklyn=0A= =0A=0A=0AFabulously Free=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0AMusician & poet Zach Barocas is = the author of Among=0AOther Things and edits The Cultural Society. He live= s in Minneapolis with his wife,=0AKimberley Yurkiewicz.=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0AS= hafer Hall is great for the goose. He could give or take the gander. No T= ell Press has just released his first=0Afull-length collection, Never Cry W= oof. =0AHe is a Senior Editor for Painted Bride Quarterly, and he=0A(someti= mes) curates the Frequency Reading Series at the Four-Faced Liar, NYC.=0A= =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A_____________________________________= _______________________________________________Ready for the edge of your s= eat? =0ACheck out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. =0Ahttp://tv.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 21:43:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: Bay Area (Scene/Venue) Question In-Reply-To: <4646F50E.5080109@listenlight.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First off--apologies for those who find this to be a geographical-- specific question clogging up the placeless 'virtual' discussion space, but since I'm not aware of any "Bay Area specific" literary/cultural/ poetry discussion list, and I know there's quite a few 'bay area' folks on this list, I figured it's worth a shot, and I wouldn't be adverse to others getting into discussions of other regions that aren't immediately relevant to mine).... Anyway, I currently got (I mean "have") access to a very cool "performance" SPACE in Oakland, and I'm trying to figure out what to DO with it.... If there's a way I can hold some kind of event, that would INCLUDE poets (people who call themselves that) and have the potentials of being exciting and/or relevant to people in other scenes.... Ever since Patrick Dunagan (i hope I'm spelling your name right) wrote his critique of an anthology called "Bay Poetics" on this list, I've been thinking that his comments could provide some kind of opportunity for talking or writing pro-actively about possible future social configurations here in the Bay Area, as manifested in 'scenes' or ad-hoc reading events, presses, etc---... Questions about how important solitude is for one's writing, or calling, and how a scene or community may help that? Questions about what mediates the social aspects in which some people find some form of community, perhaps as a kind of replacement family, a feeling of security, of mutual goading, or competitive cooperation? How important, or central, is "the book?" or "the written text" as the basis for something like 'community?'' How important, or central, the reading of one's work (to, for the most part, other people who call themselves poets) as the basic for something like community? How important, or central, the phone conversation? Or the bar- meeting? The talking? The just liking to hang-out? Or go to the same musical events, baseball games, political rallies, day-care centers, the ostensibly 'non-poetry related' social aspects? (teach, or be a student, at the same school; The SFSU poets vs. The New School poets vs. The CCA poets, vs The Stegner Fellow vs. The Berkeley poets vs. The Mills poets (they used to be called "The New Brutalists"--mostly class of '04)? (okay, I know some people cross over; it ain't just VS either/or..... and the so-called 'independents'--and not just because they're happy being loners... then there's also the young and old question, which is different than the 'estabished' vs. 'non-established' Were the "MANIC D" people originally connected with a school? What about the various segregations? How significant is the black and white one? (do you want to make it less?) How significant is the difference between one side of the Bay and the other? The various more 'sophisitcated' and the more 'populist' etc etc? Various "interfacings" with other so-called scenes, 'McSweeney's' to name but one much touted one.... I don't have time to get into a FATALISTIC discussion about it right now (and I'm going to try to avoid that temptation when I'm done--- Ah, "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused'), and if you find yourself Happy with existing social configurations in your life and art right now, (or if not entirely happy, at least thinking that "IT's GOOD ENOUGH AS IS" and it would "TAKE TOO MUCH ENERGY to try to change it), that's fine with me. But I may not have much going for me right now, but one thing I got is a SPACE where we could at least get something started (or help something along that's already started), and I still got what Marx once called "LABOR POWER" (and "while there's still life, there's hope" as John Lennon said before he died) and a belief in creative competition, unity in diversity, 'united we stand, divided we fall' and a burning feeling that something that needs to be changed is in our power to change.... and, well, I figured I'd just try it out (ya know, run it by y'all) here. Feel free to contact me backchannel, though frontchannel would probably be better.... If you want, you could also pay for the 'writing workshop' I'm planning to teach here soon. I'll send an announcement out about that soon. But in the meantime, feel free to respond to this free offer (which may end up costing 'more' than money, but that's a whole other essay thing..) Chris ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:50:18 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: spinning a yarn MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit http://vispo.com/nio/pens/screenshots/nio5.htm spinning a yarn twisting the truth lyric poem blue exhalation ja ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 00:04:59 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Subject: The Phoenix and the Dragon is about to hit the shelves. In-Reply-To: <12B7A909-6F02-418E-8F92-807337B43681@albany.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My second book, The Phoenix and the Dragon: Poems of the Alchemical Transformation, is about to hit the shelves. It follows my first book, Tellstones, and several anthologies and is my first collection through Smithcraft Press. I am looking for Booksignings and readings during the summer. I am also looking for reviews. Included in this volume are pieces for which I was awarded the 2006 = EPPIE Prize for poetry in an anthology. In addition, it contains several pieces of stunning artwork by Evanne = Floyd, whose work also graces the back cover. So please support the arts, writing and, most importantly, Evanne and I, = by looking below and ordering your advance copy. Of course, the absolute easiest way to reserve your edition is to use = PayPal or, even better, to order online, you need only go to adamtritt.com and click on the bookcover. Easy! Please forward this to where ever and who ever you can/like/wish or your entire emails list=85 whichever is larger (smile). Thank you, Adam Byrn Tritt =20 =20 =20 The Phoenix and The Dragon is about to hit the shelves! Reserve your advance copy at the Pre-release Price.=20 Adam Byrn Tritt puts me on the horns of that dilemma between Apollo or = Pan. So what makes his poetry good, then? As a poet he consulted not so much = with his mortal texts, but with his heart, personal muses, and the Gods.=20 Raymond T. Anderson, Editor, Oestara Publishing [Tritt is] unique, brilliant, wicked-ass funny, and a mensch....=20 Valerie Turner, Editor =20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM =20 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:47:51 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Subject: The Incredulous Traveler: New Blog Posted. In-Reply-To: <12B7A909-6F02-418E-8F92-807337B43681@albany.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adamus at Large The Diffusion of Memory I am trying to remember my daughter. At the age of five. Then eight. Ten. I cannot. Not fully. I have memories of events, trips, ways of being and things we did. I have memories of how I felt, diffuse and drawn. But to none of these are attached any visions. I remember taking pictures but not the pictures themselves save the presence of those on our walls. www.adamusatlarge.blogspot.com www.adamtritt.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:14:10 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: ars poetica update Comments: To: announce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The ars poetica project continues to bang a gong at: http://www.logolalia.com/arspoetica/ Poems appeared last week by: Mark Young, Bj=F8rn Magnhild=F8en, Halvard Johnson, Rochelle Ratner, and Angela O'Donnell Poems will appear this week by: Angela O'Donnell, Yoko Danno, Robert Sward, and Paul Hoover. A new poem about poetry every day.=20 Enjoy, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:16:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Kelleher Subject: Literary Buffalo E-Newsletter 05.14.07-05.20.07 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LITERARY BUFFALO 5.14.07-5.20.07 LITERARY BUFFALO IN THE NEWS Poems by local poets Tom Waters and Steve Helmicki in Artvoice: http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n19/poetry R.D Pohl on Anne Elezabeth Pluto & Nita Penfold in The Gray Hair Reading Se= ries http://buffalonews.typepad.com/poetry_beat/ THE BIG READ IS HERE=21 All of Buffalo is reading and talking about Zora Neale Hurston's novel, The= ir Eyes Were Watching God. Events will take place around the city during the month of May. Buy a copy = at Talking Leaves...Books. Visit http://www.justbuffalo.org/events/bigread.shtml for a complete schedu= le. See weekly schedule below for a list of this week's Big Read Events. READINGS THIS WEEK Unless otherwise indicated, all readings are free and open to the public. 05.14.07 THE BIG READ Leaders Read - Their Eyes Were Watching God Monday, May 14th from 4:30-6:30 p.m. WNED studios (Lower Terrace, off Church St., downtown next to Adams Mark Ho= tel) Featured leaders will talk about the book's issues and themes as they relat= e to our community in a discussion moderated by Peter Hall from WNED-FM. Th= e featured leaders are: Latricia Chisholm, Executive Director, Erie County Women's Commission Robert Gioia, President, The John R. Oishei Foundation Mary Gresham, Dean of the SUNY Buffalo Graduate School of Education Chris Jacobs, Member, Buffalo Board of Education Jennifer Parker, President, Black Capital Network Betty Calvo-Torres, Esq., Board Member, Community Foundation for Greater Bu= ffalo The schedule for the event is: 4:30 - 5:00 p.m. Refreshments 5:00 - 6:00 p.m. Panel and Discussion 6:00 - 6:30 p.m. Questions/Conclusion All are invited and encouraged to attend. 05.15.07 THE BIG READ CENTRAL LIBRARY BOOK DISCUSSION GROUP: AN OPEN FORUM TUESDAY, MAY 15, 12:10-1 p.m. Buffalo Central Library_ 1 Lafayette Square, Buffalo_ 05.16.07 THE SCREENING ROOM OPEN READINGS HOST: Verneice Turner GUEST HOST: Marge Merrill FEATURED: Russell Golata, Loren Keller, Januarius Kim Welch Wednesday, May 16, 7:30 p.m. The Screening Room, 3131 Sheridan Drive Admission: =242 12 slots for open readers 05.17.07 HALLWALLS & TALKING LEAVES BOOKS MARK NOWAK Poet, playwright, scholar, critic, labor activist reading from his essay _= =22'To Commit Suicide in Buffalo is Redundant': Music & Death in Zero City,= 1982-1984,=22 Featured in the forthcoming critical anthology GOTH: UNDEAD SUBCULTURE (edi= ted by Lauren Goodlad & Michael Bibby, Duke University Press, 2007) Plus special live music performance by DAVID KANE & DONALD KINSMAN Reuniting two-thirds of the original Nullstadt=21 Plus excerpts from early = '80s vintage Nullstadt video=21 Talking Leaves will have books for sale & s= igning by author Thursday, May 17, 7:30 p.m. Hallwalls Cinema at the Church, 341 Delaware Ave. Admission =2410 (Refunded with purchase of Goth at event 05.18.07 THE BIG READ GUSTO AT THE GALLERY: TELL MY HORSE: ZORA NEAL HURSTON AT THE ALBRIGHT-KNOX Friday, May 18, 3-10 P.M. Albright-Knox Art Gallery_ 1285 Elmwood Avenue, Buffalo_ 3-5 p.m. Children's Mini-Workshops in Clifton Hall Writing and telling scary stories with Gary Earl Ross of Just Buffalo; Afro= -Caribbean Trance Dance Workshop with Kathy Skora of Folkloric Productions;= CEPA Gallery Photo Workshop with Amy Luraschi and Lauren Tent of CEPA Gall= ery; Art Activity: Make Your Own Voodoo Doll, Instructor TBA. 5 p.m. Tea Cakes and Book Talk Join writer Kastle Brill for tea, cookies and a discussion of Their Eyes We= re Watching God. =22Tea Cake=22 is a character in the novel, and a tea cake= is a delicious cookie made in the south. We will be giving away tea cakes = made by the Buffalo Public School Students at the Emerson Cooking School.__= 6 p.m.-Performance: 6 p.m. A Symphony Down in My Soul The Players: Annette Daniels Taylor, Joyce Carolyn, Harold Luther White_T= he Musicians: John Marx, Marlow Wright, Charles Reedy, Max Thein.__A cele= bration of music and verse, with songs of slavery and salvation. Hymns, w= ork songs, blues, Gospel and Jazz woven into, around, and beside a collecti= on of poems and stories by such notable African-American writers as Paul La= wrence Dunbar, James Welden Johnson, Gwendolyn Bennett, and Langston Hughes= =2E Also, original works by Annette Daniels Taylor, remembering that the = treasured contributions of the African-Americans in our story are our link = to the past and the key to the future. 8 p.m. Off Beat Cinema presents, =22White Zombie,=22 Starring Bela Lugosi In addition to her classic novel, Their Eyes Were Watching God , Zora Neale= Hurston also wrote a famous study of Caribbean voodoo called, Tell My Hors= e. Join the cast of Channel 7's Off Beat Cinema as they do a live taping of= the show on site and present a classic B-Horror Film about voodoo and zomb= ies.__MAY 05.20.07 THE BIG READ STORYTELLING FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES Sunday, May 20, 2:30-4 p.m. Juneteenth Office_ 1517 Genesee St._Buffalo - parking is available on-site & JUST BUFFALO OPEN READING Featured: Claudia Torres and Diane Gileece Sunday, May 20, 7 p.m. Rust Belt Books 202 Allen Street, Buffalo (Meets the monthly on the third Sunday) 10 slots for open readers RECURRING LITERARY EVENTS JUST BUFFALO WRITER'S CRITIQUE GROUP Members of Just Buffalo are welcome to attend a free, bi-monthly writer cri= tique group in CEPA's Flux Gallery on the first floor of the historic Marke= t Arcade Building across the street from Shea's. Group meets 1st and 3rd We= dnesday at 7 p.m. Call Just Buffalo for details. WESTERN NEW YORK ROMANCE WRITERS group meets the third Wednesday of every m= onth at St. Joseph Hospital community room at 11a.m. Address: 2605 Harlem R= oad, Cheektowaga, NY 14225. For details go to www.wnyrw.org. JUST BUFFALO MEMBERSHIP RAFFLE Visit the literary city of your dreams: -Joyce's Dublin -Paris' Left Bank -Dante's Florence -Shakespeare's London -Harlem Renaissance NYC -The Beats' San Francisco -Anywhere Continental flies.* Now through May 25, 2007 your membership support of Just Buffalo Literary C= enter includes the chance to win the literary trip of a lifetime: Package (valued at =245,000) includes: -Two round-trip tickets to one of the great literary cities on Continental = Airlines -=241500 towards hotel and accommodations -=24500 in spending money One ticket (=2435) =3D Just Buffalo Individual Membership Two tickets (=2460) =3D Just Buffalo Family Membership Three tickets (=24100) =3D Just Buffalo Friend Membership Purchase as many memberships as you like. 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We have recently add= ed the ability to join online by paying with a credit card through PayPal. = Simply click on the membership level at which you would like to join, log = in (or create a PayPal account using your Visa/Amex/Mastercard/Discover), a= nd voil=E1, you will find yourself in literary heaven. For more info, or t= o join now, go to our website: http://www.justbuffalo.org/membership/index.shtml UNSUBSCRIBE If you would like to unsubscribe from this list, just say so and you will b= e immediately removed. _______________________________ Michael Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center Market Arcade 617 Main St., Ste. 202A Buffalo, NY 14203 716.832.5400 716.270.0184 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk=40justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:42:19 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: Bay Area (Scene/Venue) Question In-Reply-To: <13478714-A8E4-4F29-9BEA-E0D9E7331E04@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't see why this has to be limited to the Bay area. Here, everywhere, there are lots of performance spaces. If it is music or theatre-oriented, the model is promotion. You are promoting a night, so that on average you get a certain number crowd paying a door charge or buying a certain amount of drinks; the idea is that the door or bar covers the cost of operating the venue. If it is gallery-oriented, if it is to accompany a show, it is usually entertainment-oriented. The idea is to draw a crowd to the show or the gallery, or make going to the gallery more fun, not to present the work as art. There's a repopularization of a sort of space which is modeled more on galleries, but a lot of free schools, lectures, younger artists, quasi-collectives, etc. run them. A lot of these sort of things are being run with an incredible energy here in LA, on the eastside and downtown. It has repolarized the scene, though. -- All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:38:16 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I attended the panel above named this past Saturday and was surprised by a comment by Bruce Andrews (and also the apparent anger behind it after all this time) to the effect that LANGUAGE was a rebellion or act of opposition to "The New American Poetry and all that romantic crap." I have no idea if this is particular to Bruce (in which case I think my query goes out to him) or to a particular group of poets who call themselves (or are called by others) Language poets. Here it is: since neither the New American Poetry (as represented in the eponymous book) nor romanticism are monolithic concepts, what does "the NAP and all that romantic crap" mean? Mark ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:55:18 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Small Press Traffic Subject: Carr & Joron at SPT this Friday 5/18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline VGhpcyBGcmlkYXksIE1heSAxOCwgMjAwNyBhdCA3OjMwIHAubS4KU21hbGwgUHJlc3MgVHJhZmZp YyBwcmVzZW50cyBhIHJlYWRpbmcgYnkKSnVsaWUgQ2FyciAmIEFuZHJldyBKb3JvbgoKV2UgYXJl IHBsZWFzZWQgdG8gd2VsY29tZSBKdWxpZSBDYXJyIGJhY2sgdG8gdGhlIEJheSBBcmVhIGluCmNl bGVicmF0aW9uIG9mIGhlciBsYXRlc3QgY29sbGVjdGlvbiwgRXF1aXZvY2FsLCBqdXN0IG91dCBm cm9tIEFsaWNlCkphbWVzLiBKZWFuIFZhbGVudGluZSBzYXlzIG9mIGl0OiAiVGhlIHN0YWx3YXJ0 IGVuZXJneSwgcmlza3kKaW52ZW50aW9uLCBhbmQgbHVtaW5vdXMgaW50ZWxsaWdlbmNlIG9mIHRo aXMgYm9vayBtYWtlIHRoZSBhaXIKY2xlYXJlciwgdGhlIHdvcmxkIGxpZ2h0ZXIsIGFuZCBnaXZl IGNvbXBhbnkgdG8gdGhvc2Ugd2hvIGdyaWV2ZS4iCkNhcnIncyBmaXJzdCBib29rLCBNZWFkOiBB biBFcGl0aGFsYW1pb24sIHdvbiB0aGUgVW5pdmVyc2l0eSBvZgpHZW9yZ2lhIFByZXNzJ3MgY29u dGVtcG9yYXJ5IHBvZXRyeSBwcml6ZSBmb3IgMjAwNC4gU2hlIHRlYWNoZXMgYXQgdGhlClVuaXZl cnNpdHkgb2YgQ29sb3JhZG8gYW5kIGlzIHRoZSBwdWJsaXNoZXIgb2YgQ291bnRlcnBhdGggUHJl c3MuCgpBbmRyZXcgSm9yb24ncyBsYXRlc3QgYm9vayBpcyBUaGUgQ3J5IGF0IFplcm86IFNlbGVj dGVkIFByb3NlLCBmcm9tCkNvdW50ZXJwYXRoIFByZXNzLiBDYWx2aW4gQmVkaWVudCBoYXMgY2Fs bGVkIGhpbSAidGhlCm1ldGFwaHlzaWNpYW4tZWxlY3Qgb2YgY29udGVtcG9yYXJ5IEFtZXJpY2Fu IHBvZXRyeSIgYW5kIENocmlzdGluZQpIdW1lIGNhbGxlZCBoaXMgRmF0aG9tIChCbGFjayBTcXVh cmUgRWRpdGlvbnMsIDIwMDMpICJhCm1pbmQtY2FyYm9uYXRpbmcgYm9vayB0aGF0IHJpY2hseSBl bXBsb3lzIHRoZSBkeW5hbWljIHJlbGF0aW9uIGJldHdlZW4Kc291bmQgYW5kIHNlbWFudGljIGFz cGVjdHMgb2YgbGFuZ3VhZ2UuIEhlcmUgaXMgYSBwaGlsb3NvcGhpY2FsIGx5cmljCnRoYXQgZW1i b2RpZXMgYW4gYWN0aXZlIHBvdGVudGlhbCBmb3IgdHJhbnNmb3JtYXRpb24gb2YgdGhlIHdvcmxk LiIKSm9yb24gaXMgdGhlIHRyYW5zbGF0b3Igb2YgdGhlIHBoaWxvc29waGVyIEVybnN0IEJsb2No J3MgTGl0ZXJhcnkKRXNzYXlzIChTdGFuZm9yZCwgMTk5OCksIGFuZCBvZiB0aGUgc3VycmVhbGlz dCBSaWNoYXJkIEFuZGVycydzCmFwaG9yaXNtcyBhbmQgcHJvc2UgcG9lbXMuIEhlIGxpdmVzIGlu IEJlcmtlbGV5LgoKClVubGVzcyBvdGhlcndpc2Ugbm90ZWQsIGV2ZW50cyBhcmUgJDUtMTAsIHNs aWRpbmcgc2NhbGUsIGZyZWUgdG8KY3VycmVudCBTUFQgbWVtYmVycyBhbmQgQ0NBIGZhY3VsdHks IHN0YWZmLCBhbmQgc3R1ZGVudHMuCgpVbmxlc3Mgb3RoZXJ3aXNlIG5vdGVkLCBvdXIgZXZlbnRz IGFyZSBwcmVzZW50ZWQgaW7igKhUaW1rZW4gTGVjdHVyZQpIYWxsLOKAqENhbGlmb3JuaWEgQ29s bGVnZSBvZiB0aGUgQXJ0cyDigKgxMTExIEVpZ2h0aCBTdHJlZXQsIFNhbgpGcmFuY2lzY28gKGp1 c3Qgb2ZmIHRoZSBpbnRlcnNlY3Rpb24gb2YgMTZ0aCAmIFdpc2NvbnNpbikKaHR0cDovL3d3dy5z cHRyYWZmaWMub3JnCgomIGNvbWluZyB1cAoKCk1heSAyNSBQYXVsIEhvb3ZlciAmIFRlbm5leSBO YXRoYW5zb24KU2VwdGVtYmVyIDcgS2V2aW4gS2lsbGlhbiBwbGF5ClNlcHRlbWJlciAxNCBKZW5u aWZlciBTY2FwcGV0dG9uZSBMZWN0dXJlClNlcHRlbWJlciAyMSBDQ0EgQ2VudGVubmlhbCBSZWFk aW5nCk9jdG9iZXIgNSBUaXNhIEJyeWFudCAmIExpc2EgUm9iZXJ0c29uCk9jdG9iZXIgMTkgQ2F0 aHkgUGFyayBIb25nICYgTGluZGEgUnVzc28KTm92ZW1iZXIgMiBLZXZpbiBLaWxsaWFuICYgSm9z ZXBoIExlYXNlCk5vdmVtYmVyIDE2IENsYXVkaWEgUmFua2luZSAmIFNhcmFoIFJvc2VudGhhbApE ZWNlbWJlciA3IFJvZHJpZ28gVG9zY2FubyAmIEhpcyBDb2xsYXBzaWJsZSBQb2V0aWNzIFRoZWF0 ZXIKCgoKRWxpemFiZXRoIFRyZWFkd2VsbCwgRGlyZWN0b3IKU21hbGwgUHJlc3MgVHJhZmZpYyBM aXRlcmFyeSBBcnRzIENlbnRlciBhdCBDQ0EKMTExMeKAlDh0aCBTdHJlZXQKU2FuIEZyYW5jaXNj bywgQ2FsaWZvcm5pYSA5NDEwNwoKClNtYWxsIFByZXNzIFRyYWZmaWMgaXMgYW4gYXV0b25vbW91 cywgbm9ucHJvZml0IGNvbW11bml0eSBhcnRzIGNlbnRlcgphbmQgeW91ciBkb25hdGlvbnMgYXJl IGFsd2F5cyB3ZWxjb21lIGFuZCBoZWxwZnVsLiBUaGFuayB5b3UuCg== ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:53:22 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: cralan kelder Subject: next week in edinburgh In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514132902.05a67848@earthlink.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit anybody in Scotland? Please come say hello. > > > an island reading > Thomas A Clark : Alec Finlay : Cralan Kelder > Sunday 20 May 2007 > 2 pm > Scottish Poetry Library > 5 Crichton's Close, Canongate, Edinburgh EH8 8DT > rsvp julie.johnstone@spl.org.uk 0131 557 > 2876 > www.essencepress.co.uk > www.spl.org.uk > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:11:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Eireene Nealand Subject: Re: Bay Area (Scene/Venue) Question In-Reply-To: <13478714-A8E4-4F29-9BEA-E0D9E7331E04@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ah well, i do like to speak for the Bay Area, anyhow i was born there. I even lived in Golden Gate Park for a couple of weeks when I was young... It is true that there are a lot of little circles, it's because our circles are made out of perosnal relationships--i.e. actual friends and it feels like we do get pretty involved in each other's lives. but they are quite open and interweaving and interlocking circles, I think. Just grab a beer and sit down and then be prepared to get pretty involved--the is the main part of us, i think, how we push one another to take more and more wilder risks--yes, i'll readily admit it sometimes just for the sake of wildness but often we're pushed on by a political cause and often the wild ideas bear fruit). a good place to start: http://newyipes.blogspot.com/2006_07_01_archive.html (I picked this archives page because I'm a big fan of Haleh Hatami)/ Are you wanting to put out a call for performers? If you write up something about the space, its location, schedule, etc I'd be happy to help pass it around. It might be fun to try to organize a reading of some of Sidebrow's collaborative works? I'd be up for working on that if it can somehow get scheduled around summer travels... what ever happened to the pickle family circus, by the way? eireene On 5/13/07, Chris Stroffolino wrote: > First off--apologies for those who find this to be a geographical-- > specific question clogging up the placeless 'virtual' discussion space, > but since I'm not aware of any "Bay Area specific" literary/cultural/ > poetry discussion list, and I know there's quite a few 'bay area' > folks on this list, > I figured it's worth a shot, and I wouldn't be adverse to others > getting into discussions of other regions that aren't immediately > relevant to mine).... > > Anyway, I currently got (I mean "have") access to a very cool > "performance" SPACE in Oakland, and I'm trying to figure out what to > DO with it.... > If there's a way I can hold some kind of event, that would INCLUDE > poets (people who call themselves that) and have the potentials > of being exciting and/or relevant to people in other scenes.... > > Ever since Patrick Dunagan (i hope I'm spelling your name right) > wrote his critique of an anthology called "Bay Poetics" > on this list, I've been thinking that his comments could provide some > kind of opportunity for talking or writing pro-actively about > possible future social configurations here in the Bay Area, as > manifested in 'scenes' or ad-hoc reading events, presses, etc---... > > Questions about how important solitude is for one's writing, or > calling, and how a scene or community may help that? > Questions about what mediates the social aspects in which some people > find some form of community, > perhaps as a kind of replacement family, a feeling of security, > of mutual goading, or competitive cooperation? > How important, or central, is "the book?" or "the written text" > as the basis for something like 'community?'' > How important, or central, the reading of one's work (to, for > the most part, other people who call themselves poets) > as the basic for something like community? > How important, or central, the phone conversation? Or the bar- > meeting? The talking? The just liking to hang-out? > Or go to the same musical events, baseball games, > political rallies, day-care centers, the ostensibly 'non-poetry related' > social aspects? > (teach, or be a student, at the same school; The > SFSU poets vs. The New School poets vs. The CCA poets, vs The Stegner > Fellow vs. > The Berkeley poets vs. The Mills poets (they used > to be called "The New Brutalists"--mostly class of '04)? > (okay, I know some people cross over; it ain't just VS either/or..... > and the so-called 'independents'--and not just > because they're happy being loners... > > then there's also the young and old question, which > is different than the 'estabished' vs. 'non-established' > Were the "MANIC D" people originally connected with a school? > What about the various segregations? > How significant is the black and white one? (do you want to > make it less?) > How significant is the difference between one side of the > Bay and the other? > The various more 'sophisitcated' and the more 'populist' etc > etc? > Various "interfacings" with other so-called scenes, > 'McSweeney's' to name but one much touted one.... > > I don't have time to get into a FATALISTIC discussion about it right now > (and I'm going to try to avoid that temptation when I'm done--- > Ah, "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused'), > and if you find yourself Happy with existing social configurations in > your life and art right now, > (or if not entirely happy, at least thinking that "IT's GOOD ENOUGH > AS IS" and it would "TAKE TOO MUCH ENERGY > to try to change it), that's fine with me. > > But I may not have much going for me right now, but one thing I got > is a SPACE where we could at least get something started > (or help something along that's already started), > and I still got what Marx once called "LABOR POWER" (and "while > there's still life, there's hope" > as John Lennon said before he died) and a belief in creative > competition, unity in diversity, 'united we stand, divided we fall' > and a burning feeling that something that needs to be changed is in > our power to change.... > > and, well, I figured I'd just try it out (ya know, run it by y'all) > here. > Feel free to contact me backchannel, though frontchannel would > probably be better.... > > If you want, you could also pay for the 'writing workshop' I'm > planning to teach here soon. > I'll send an announcement out about that soon. But in the meantime, > feel free to respond to this free offer > (which may end up costing 'more' than money, but that's a whole other > essay thing..) > > Chris > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:29:48 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Kasimor Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514132902.05a67848@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am old enough to remember the poetry from the 1970s. I am thinking about the poetry that has the epiphany in the poem--and it does come off as being very romantic as to how I think he means it. There was always nature, the internal struggle, and then the insight at the end of the poem. I quit writing poetry for many years because I could no longer write that type of poem--if I could even write it in the beginning. It was boring. A friend, who was/is a Language poet (as I understand it) encouraged me to write differently. He was a graduate of the MFA program at Bard. Wasn't that MFA program one of the major Lanuage poetry centers? I think of James Wright as being the Romantic poet of that era. I loved his poetry at the time, but I don't read it anymore. Also, Robert Bly.(I am just a little prairie flower (WCW) from the midwest, so many things come to us much later.) Mary Kasimor Mary Kasimor Mark Weiss wrote: I attended the panel above named this past Saturday and was surprised by a comment by Bruce Andrews (and also the apparent anger behind it after all this time) to the effect that LANGUAGE was a rebellion or act of opposition to "The New American Poetry and all that romantic crap." I have no idea if this is particular to Bruce (in which case I think my query goes out to him) or to a particular group of poets who call themselves (or are called by others) Language poets. Here it is: since neither the New American Poetry (as represented in the eponymous book) nor romanticism are monolithic concepts, what does "the NAP and all that romantic crap" mean? Mark --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:00:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: James T Sherry Subject: THURSDAY: BIG BOOK PARTY (Roof Books) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The Figures, Roof, Yo-Yo Labs, United Artists, Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating the publication of the following books: a (A)ugust, by Akilah Oliver UNTITLED WORKS, by Tonya Foster NOTES FOR SOME (NOMINALLY) AWAKE, by Julie Patton FERVENT REMNANTS OF REFLECTIVE SURFACES, by Evelyn Reilly ARE WE NOT BETRAYED BY IMPORTANCE, by Francis Picabia SEEING OUT LOUD (back in print), by Jerry Saltz COLUMNS & CATALOGUES, by Peter Schjeldahl MINE, by Clark Coolidge IFLIFE, by Bob Perelman FOLLY, by Nada Gordon MAKING DYING ILLEGAL, by Madeline Gins & Arakawa KLUGE : A MEDITATION & Other Works, by Brian Kim Stefans NINETEEN LINES : A Drawing Center Anthology, ed. by Lytle Shaw MY AUTOBIOGRAPHY, by Barbara Henning SOLUTION SIMULACRA, by Gloria Frym JOIN THE PLANETS, by Reed Bye ACROSS THE BIG MAP, Ruth Altmann SOME FORMS OF AVAILABILITY, by Simon Cutts A TESTAMENT OF WOMEN, by Johanna Drucker PARADIGM OF THE TINCTURES, by Steve McCaffery & Alan Halsey ALMA, OR THE DEAD WOMEN, by Alice Notley PAPER CHILDREN, by Mariana Marin INSPECTOR VS. EVADER, by Paul Killebrew THE HOT GARMENT OF LOVE IS INSECURE, by Elizabeth Reddin THE STATES, by Craig Foltz COMPLETE MINIMAL POEMS, by Aram Saroyan James T Sherry Segue Foundation (212) 493-5984 sherryj@us.ibm.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:13:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body In-Reply-To: <40671.79159.qm@web51802.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The New American Poetry refers to a specific anthology and the poets in it, and I'm sure that's what Bruce meant. What you're talking about is the stuff those poets were taking on, and which still dominates US poetry. Mark At 02:29 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote: >I am old enough to remember the poetry from the 1970s. I am thinking >about the poetry that has the epiphany in the poem--and it does come >off as being very romantic as to how I think he means it. There was >always nature, the internal struggle, and then the insight at the >end of the poem. I quit writing poetry for many years because I >could no longer write that type of poem--if I could even write it in >the beginning. It was boring. A friend, who was/is a Language poet >(as I understand it) encouraged me to write differently. He was a >graduate of the MFA program at Bard. Wasn't that MFA program one of >the major Lanuage poetry centers? I think of James Wright as being >the Romantic poet of that era. I loved his poetry at the time, but I >don't read it anymore. Also, Robert Bly.(I am just a little prairie >flower (WCW) from the midwest, so many things come to us much later.) > > Mary Kasimor > > Mary Kasimor > > > >Mark Weiss wrote: > I attended the panel above named this past Saturday and was surprised >by a comment by Bruce Andrews (and also the apparent anger behind it >after all this time) to the effect that LANGUAGE was a rebellion or >act of opposition to "The New American Poetry and all that romantic >crap." I have no idea if this is particular to Bruce (in which case I >think my query goes out to him) or to a particular group of poets who >call themselves (or are called by others) Language poets. Here it is: >since neither the New American Poetry (as represented in the >eponymous book) nor romanticism are monolithic concepts, what does >"the NAP and all that romantic crap" mean? > >Mark > > > >--------------------------------- >Bored stiff? Loosen up... >Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:46:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Kasimor Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514171154.05af48c8@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes, much poetry from the more mainstream poetry journals. Mary Mark Weiss wrote: The New American Poetry refers to a specific anthology and the poets in it, and I'm sure that's what Bruce meant. What you're talking about is the stuff those poets were taking on, and which still dominates US poetry. Mark At 02:29 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote: >I am old enough to remember the poetry from the 1970s. I am thinking >about the poetry that has the epiphany in the poem--and it does come >off as being very romantic as to how I think he means it. There was >always nature, the internal struggle, and then the insight at the >end of the poem. I quit writing poetry for many years because I >could no longer write that type of poem--if I could even write it in >the beginning. It was boring. A friend, who was/is a Language poet >(as I understand it) encouraged me to write differently. He was a >graduate of the MFA program at Bard. Wasn't that MFA program one of >the major Lanuage poetry centers? I think of James Wright as being >the Romantic poet of that era. I loved his poetry at the time, but I >don't read it anymore. Also, Robert Bly.(I am just a little prairie >flower (WCW) from the midwest, so many things come to us much later.) > > Mary Kasimor > > Mary Kasimor > > > >Mark Weiss wrote: > I attended the panel above named this past Saturday and was surprised >by a comment by Bruce Andrews (and also the apparent anger behind it >after all this time) to the effect that LANGUAGE was a rebellion or >act of opposition to "The New American Poetry and all that romantic >crap." I have no idea if this is particular to Bruce (in which case I >think my query goes out to him) or to a particular group of poets who >call themselves (or are called by others) Language poets. Here it is: >since neither the New American Poetry (as represented in the >eponymous book) nor romanticism are monolithic concepts, what does >"the NAP and all that romantic crap" mean? > >Mark > > > >--------------------------------- >Bored stiff? Loosen up... >Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:37:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body In-Reply-To: <40671.79159.qm@web51802.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On May 14, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Mary Kasimor wrote: > I am old enough to remember the poetry from the 1970s. I am thinking > about the poetry that has the epiphany in the poem--and it does come > off as being very romantic as to how I think he means it. There was > always nature, the internal struggle, and then the insight at the end > of the poem. How about giving some examples of NAP poets who did this? The examples you give below are James Wright and Robert Bly. Surely these are poets on the other side of the net from the NAP poets? > I quit writing poetry for many years because I could no longer write > that type of poem--if I could even write it in the beginning. It was > boring. A friend, who was/is a Language poet (as I understand it) > encouraged me to write differently. He was a graduate of the MFA > program at Bard. Wasn't that MFA program one of the major Lanuage > poetry centers? I think of James Wright as being the Romantic poet of > that era. I loved his poetry at the time, but I don't read it anymore. > Also, Robert Bly.(I am just a little prairie flower (WCW) from the > midwest, so many things come to us much later.) > > Mary Kasimor > > Mary Kasimor > > > > Mark Weiss wrote: > I attended the panel above named this past Saturday and was surprised > by a comment by Bruce Andrews (and also the apparent anger behind it > after all this time) to the effect that LANGUAGE was a rebellion or > act of opposition to "The New American Poetry and all that romantic > crap." I have no idea if this is particular to Bruce (in which case I > think my query goes out to him) or to a particular group of poets who > call themselves (or are called by others) Language poets. Here it is: > since neither the New American Poetry (as represented in the > eponymous book) nor romanticism are monolithic concepts, what does > "the NAP and all that romantic crap" mean? > > Mark > > > > --------------------------------- > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > > George Harry Bowering Can't find his Speedo ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:25:51 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Skip Fox Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514171154.05af48c8@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, in a sense. When Andrews attacks those in Allen's anthology, he's attacking the highly aware romanticism of Olson, Creeley, Ginsberg, O'Hara, Duncan, etc. (I don't believe that that romanticism was prevalent then or now. Then, academic and confessional poetry; now, the romanticism of post-confessionalism and other bland period-style varieties.) I think Andrews's attack makes sense in general terms. In the same terms, however, I have often seen a hard-headed romanticism, an insistence on certain types of possible meaning, especially ontological, and an intuitional poetics, lumped with the underconsidered romaniticism that has been in favor, though its flavors have somewhat changed, these fifty odd years. I didn't hear the comment in full, but what we have here ignores the correspondences between the two groups: Language and New American Poetry. I think Andrews has acknowledged this, and I know many New American Poets do (e.g., Creeley, Guest, Eigner, Duncan) (There was, of course, animosity as well, Dorn calling the Langauge Poetry the Languish Poets, etc.) "I mean to mean." -Robert Creeley -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Weiss Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:14 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body The New American Poetry refers to a specific anthology and the poets in it, and I'm sure that's what Bruce meant. What you're talking about is the stuff those poets were taking on, and which still dominates US poetry. Mark At 02:29 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote: >I am old enough to remember the poetry from the 1970s. I am thinking >about the poetry that has the epiphany in the poem--and it does come >off as being very romantic as to how I think he means it. There was >always nature, the internal struggle, and then the insight at the >end of the poem. I quit writing poetry for many years because I >could no longer write that type of poem--if I could even write it in >the beginning. It was boring. A friend, who was/is a Language poet >(as I understand it) encouraged me to write differently. He was a >graduate of the MFA program at Bard. Wasn't that MFA program one of >the major Lanuage poetry centers? I think of James Wright as being >the Romantic poet of that era. I loved his poetry at the time, but I >don't read it anymore. Also, Robert Bly.(I am just a little prairie >flower (WCW) from the midwest, so many things come to us much later.) > > Mary Kasimor > > Mary Kasimor > > > >Mark Weiss wrote: > I attended the panel above named this past Saturday and was surprised >by a comment by Bruce Andrews (and also the apparent anger behind it >after all this time) to the effect that LANGUAGE was a rebellion or >act of opposition to "The New American Poetry and all that romantic >crap." I have no idea if this is particular to Bruce (in which case I >think my query goes out to him) or to a particular group of poets who >call themselves (or are called by others) Language poets. Here it is: >since neither the New American Poetry (as represented in the >eponymous book) nor romanticism are monolithic concepts, what does >"the NAP and all that romantic crap" mean? > >Mark > > > >--------------------------------- >Bored stiff? Loosen up... >Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:22:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Giannini Subject: Re: next week in edinburgh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Best to you , Cralan, and to T.A.C. and A.F.! David ----- Original Message ----- From: "cralan kelder" To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: next week in edinburgh > anybody in Scotland? Please come say hello. >> >> >> an island reading >> Thomas A Clark : Alec Finlay : Cralan Kelder >> Sunday 20 May 2007 >> 2 pm >> Scottish Poetry Library >> 5 Crichton's Close, Canongate, Edinburgh EH8 8DT >> rsvp julie.johnstone@spl.org.uk 0131 >> 557 >> 2876 >> www.essencepress.co.uk >> www.spl.org.uk > > > > >> > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:56:15 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Beckett Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone who was at this event give an overview of the talks and provide a little more context? I'd dearly love to hear multiple reports. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:04:40 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Tim Peterson, one of Segue organizers of the event, usually gives very good write-ups at his website, www.mappemunde.com I am not sure when this new account will go up - but it is interesting to look at Tim's previous accounts. Stephen V http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > Can someone who was at this event give an overview of the talks and provide > a little more context? I'd dearly love to hear multiple reports. > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:47:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Correction: Tim Peterson blog In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I was mistaken. Tim's site is a blog. http://mappemunde.typepad.com/ I can tell Tim is working on a review of the LangPo + body event. A photograph of yesterday's panel folks minus Maria (I think) is already up. Sorry for the mislead. Stephen V http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > Tim Peterson, one of Segue organizers of the event, usually gives very good > write-ups at his website, www.mappemunde.com > I am not sure when this new account will go up - but it is interesting to > look at Tim's previous accounts. > > Stephen V > http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > > > > >> Can someone who was at this event give an overview of the talks and provide >> a little more context? I'd dearly love to hear multiple reports. >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:23:12 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Correction: Tim Peterson blog In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" hey i *am* in the picture, way in the background, doing my x-stitching, to the right of leslie scalapino. obscure, like the shadow knows... At 6:47 PM -0700 5/14/07, Stephen Vincent wrote: >I was mistaken. Tim's site is a blog. > >http://mappemunde.typepad.com/ > >I can tell Tim is working on a review of the LangPo + body event. A >photograph of yesterday's panel folks minus Maria (I think) is already up. > >Sorry for the mislead. > >Stephen V >http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > > > > > >> Tim Peterson, one of Segue organizers of the event, usually gives very good >> write-ups at his website, www.mappemunde.com >> I am not sure when this new account will go up - but it is interesting to >> look at Tim's previous accounts. >> >> Stephen V >> http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ >> >> >> >> >>> Can someone who was at this event give an overview of the talks >>>and provide >>> a little more context? I'd dearly love to hear multiple reports. >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** See what's free at >>>http://www.aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:24:05 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Re: Question re: Language Poetry and the Body - AUDIO! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I recorded most of the event on Saturday; however, I ran out of room during Andrew's talk. Apologies for poor technology. Part One - Tim Peterson and Erica Kaufman Introduce - Maria Damon http://odeo.com/audio/12429453/view Part Two -- Steve Benson [Benson listens to his own talk through earphones while delivering it to the audience] http://odeo.com/audio/12429253/view Part Three -- Leslie Scalapino http://odeo.com/audio/12427173/view Part Four -- Bruce Andrews (Incomplete) http://odeo.com/audio/12426953/view A few photos -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/amyking/ ------- http://www.amyking.org/blog --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:37:12 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jane Sprague Subject: P.S. Books Call For Work - Please Forward MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Poetics list: From Allison Carter who built Palm Press' beautiful website. Please contact her directly with questions, queries, etc. thanks, J Sprague ----- Original Message ----- From: "P S" To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: P.S. Books Call For Work - Please Forward > Dear Friends, > this email announces a new publishing project, P.S. Books, and this is > a call for work. > > P.S.'s First Project: The Particle Series > > The Particle Series has a small but exacting brain. It thinks in terms > of compression, particularity, experimentation, hybridity, the gesture > of the word and/or the lyric of the gesture, frames, conceptualisms, > straight arrows into bulls' eyes, long words in small spaces trying to > get out, etc., etc. - How do particles accumulate? How can a particle > reveal, again, more than - or perfectly - the particular? > > Each chapbook is 4" x 2.5". Submissions should be formatted to that > size, and of no more than 45 tiny pages. For example: thinking about > size and then using it. > > Email submissions (and questions) to pseriesbooks@gmail.com by August > 15, 2007 with last name and the word "submission" in the subject. > Black and white images. Books will be chosen to take part in a series > of 8-10 complimentary books, to be mailed out over the course of two > years. Subscriptions and individual books will be available for > purchase (in the order of their release) once the entire first season > has been compiled. > > All the best, > Allison Carter > particleseries.blogspot.com > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:44:05 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: materials for forthcoming performance paris epoetry conf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed sound and 2 images from upcoming epoetry performance paris figure in white: Sandy Baldwin singer and composer: Azure Carter tabla player darker avatar: Alan Sondheim SL space: Odyssey http://www.asondheim.org/parisfull.mp3 (perhaps our best music/sound to date) http://www.asondheim.org/parisepoetry1.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/parisepoetry2.jpg (production shots) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:13:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vireo Nefer Subject: Re: John Cage - Water Walk In-Reply-To: <825305.40465.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Oh, bravo! Wonderful! i'm so glad the ' net can hang on to the past for me. Vireo On 5/11/07, amy king wrote: > > Someone posted this Cage composition to another listserv -- it reminds me > of a landscape: > > http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/04/john_cage_on_a_.html > > > > > --------------------------------- > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > -- AIM: vireonefer LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=vireoibis VireoNyx Publications: http://www.vireonyxpub.org INK: http://www.inkemetic.org ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:53:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Fieled Subject: Lina Ramona Vitkauskas on PFS Post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Check out three ace new poems from Chicago poet Lina Ramona Vitkauskas on PFS Post: http://www.artrecess.blogspot.com Lots of new stuff: Upstairs at Duroc, Rock History, 90s Nostalgia, Ed Ruscha, Sherlock, Baus, Allegrezza, Bowie: http://www.adamfieled.blogspot.com New from Lundwall/Fieled: http://www.andrewlundwall.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:32:31 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tim Peterson Subject: LANGPO AND THE BODY: A REPORT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Here's my writeup of the event. I'll post it to the blog later on today. Apologies in advance if, in my scrawled notes, I might have misquoted anyone. Best, Tim The panel on language poetry and the body surprised me in that each of the participants had a very different take on what “body” might mean in the context of poetics. Some dealt with phenomenology and some with the performative aspets of gender, and only one of the essays, that of Bruce Andrews, connected body with the notion of a romantic authorial subject, and even then only as part of a spectrum more descriptive than proscriptive. The house was packed and I think the discussion went very well. I look forward to publishing most or all of these essays as a group in the next issue of EOAGH, which should be out in June or July, so you’ll be able to read the text in full sometime then. Maria Damon’s essay traced connections through the work of three poets, Leslie Scalapino, Carla Harryman, and Nada Gordon and their different conceptions of the body. She used Benjamin to read Scalapino’s project as related to the question of how to endure shocks without suffering repression, and she saw embodiment here as chiefly an issue of bodies in spaces, a kin dof phenomenological awareness. She looked at Harryman’s work through the lens of gendered bodies in history, the concept of bodies under the state. The dilemma that “as a lady, she cannot function as the word ‘lady’” brings up the question “is it possible to be both gateway and consciousness?” Damon looked at Nada’s poetry as a kind of ecriture feminine (!) in which you can feel the presence of the “hegemonic brigade in the wings of the burlesque show.” She aptly described Nada’s writing as “terrifyingly ludic femininity” and posited Folly’s approach to consciousness as a “utopian alternative to madness.” Then she compared aspects of Nada’s project to that of Leslie Scalapino, which is a comparison I don’t believe I’ve ever seen before. Truly a lively and original approach to the topic. In Steve Benson’s memorable presentation, the poet performed acts of reading, listering to a tape of himself reading his notes on the panel topic. These notes were being played back over headphones to him on high speed while he adopted the role of a reader responding to his own distorted writing, a reader who at times seemed to be something more: “Things are awful for me, speaking as the entire human body.” His hilarious and insightful performance was filled with the energy of improvisation and lively asides: “more on that later.” Benson walked around the entire space while making this talk, which was accompanied by vigorous movements and theatrical hand gestures, as if to illustrate certain points such as the physicality of words on a page, the physical experience of being at times within the page surface, at other times “zooming from me to you.” Leslie Scalapino talked about the role of the hippocampus in experiencing the relationship between past and present and how memories are formed in the writing process. In a really amazing and thoughtful essay, Scalapino discussed some of the ways in which writing provides a locus for addressing and intervening in the relationship between past, present, and possible future: “it’s seeing in a space there not being cause-and-effects,” the action of the writing “being apprehending not forming events.” However, by apprehending the SPACE of events, one can change them and thus change the future. Unlike her example of an early langpo figure (not sure who) who stated that a poem about a man with AIDS was “merely emotional content,” Scalapino argued offered other terms with which to examine or re-frame that issue: “the relation is instead between the mind and experiencing.” She questioned Watten’s notion of langpo as being opposed to “expressive poetics” that supposedly reject modernism, saying that his distinction “precludes sensation and others’ perceptions as BEING political change.” Her approach of using “sound/syntax as thought-shape to apprehend mind-shape came close to my own view on the subject in terms of the importance of phenomenology for writing and the inter-relation of body and mind, not to mention gender. There is something extremely daring and mind-blowing about Scalapino’s suggestion that we can “eliminate memory as basis or vehicle and thus change the social constructions that are part of us.” Perhaps particularly noteworthy in this talk is one of the first times I have ever heard Leslie Scalapino employ prosopopoeia or apostrophe in a moment of surprising and wonderful self-interruption: “Leslie, these things are affecting your body!” Last but certainly not least, I was won over by Bruce Andrews very reasonable and effective essay “Body & Language,” which followed his earlier commentary on the topic (see his wonderful Alabama book) but proposed the situation as a complex sliding scale rather than as opposed, ossified binaries. Andrews began by addressing the accusation that language poetry is usually criticized as a disembodied writing practice, and pointed out that this critique only makes sense if we draw a parallel between the body and the author in the sense of the authorial “self.” Instead of “the preenings of author control,” Andrews offered inter-media analogoies such as the notion of creating a disjunctive surface as in abstract art. He pointed out that whereas most romantic poetry deals with traditional ways of “showcasing” embodiment through the “representation of bodies,” the goal of langpo is to resist such an outward pull of representation, creating a “surface that emphasizes the surface of the page.” Andrews argued that language poetry is not necessarily a disembodied form of writing and that there is always the chance for bodily experience in the emphasis on the reader, a)thinking, b)loving, c)politicizing. He asked the very useful question “what constitutes an expansive freedom for the reader?” as well as the poly-sci-inflected inquiry “which features of lit propose an imperialistic text”? The sliding scale here contrasted on the one hand the notion of an untroubled depiction of the authorial self, and on the other hand the notion of a language without reference, neither of which would be a desirable situation (“not phobic avoidance of meaning altogether”). Rather, these extremes lie on a spectrum. They are tools for use in thinking about the type of generic or particular representation taking place in a text, and how this method of representation might relate to “the body of an expansive reader.” Andrews ended his essay with an allegory which drew certain parallels between the concerns of language writing and aspects of the US policy of containment regarding the Soviet Union during the Cold War. There was a provocative question-and-answer period afterward in which we had many wonderful questions from Madeline Gins, Bob Perelman, Wystan Curnow, and many others. I learned a lot from working on this panel and I look forward to many more such discussions at Segue in the future. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:12:02 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Gonzales proposes new crime: "Attempted" copyright infringement Comments: To: Theory and Writing Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Gonzales proposes new crime: "Attempted" copyright infringement Posted by Declan McCullagh http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9719339-7.html? part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5 Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is pressing the U.S. Congress to enact a sweeping intellectual property bill that would increase criminal penalties for copyright infringement, including "attempts" to commit piracy. "To meet the global challenges of IP crime, our criminal laws must be kept updated," Gonzales said during a speech before the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in Washington on Monday. The Bush administration is throwing its support behind a proposal called the Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2007, which is likely to receive the enthusiastic support of the movie and music industries and would represent the most dramatic rewrite of copyright law since a 2005 measure dealing with pre-release piracy. Here's our podcast on the topic. The IPPA would, for instance: * Criminalize "attempting" to infringe copyright. Federal law currently punishes not-for-profit copyright infringement with between 1 and 10 years in prison, but there has to be actual infringement that takes place. The IPPA would eliminate that requirement. (The Justice Department's summary of the legislation says: "It is a general tenet of the criminal law that those who attempt to commit a crime but do not complete it are as morally culpable as those who succeed in doing so.") * Create a new crime of life imprisonment for using pirated software. Anyone using counterfeit products who "recklessly causes or attempts to cause death" can be imprisoned for life. During a conference call, Justice Department officials gave the example of a hospital using pirated software instead of paying for it. * Permit more wiretaps for piracy investigations. Wiretaps would be authorized for investigations of Americans who are "attempting" to infringe copyrights. * Allow computers to be seized more readily. Specifically, property such as a PC "intended to be used in any manner" to commit a copyright crime would be subject to forfeiture, including civil asset forfeiture. Civil asset forfeiture has become popular among police agencies in drug cases as a way to gain additional revenue, and is problematic and controversial. * Increase penalties for violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's anti-circumvention regulations. Currently criminal violations are currently punished by jail times of up to 10 years and fines of up to $1 million. The IPPA would add forfeiture penalties too. * Add penalties for "intended" copyright crimes. Currently certain copyright crimes require someone to commit the "distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of at least 10 copies" valued at over $2,500. The IPPA would insert a new prohibition: actions that were "intended to consist of" distribution. * Require Homeland Security to alert the Recording Industry Association of America. That would happen when compact discs with "unauthorized fixations of the sounds or sounds and images of a live musical performance" are attempted to be imported. Neither the Motion Picture Association of America nor the Business Software Alliance (nor any other copyright holder such as photographers, playwrights, or news organizations, for that matter) would qualify for this kind of special treatment. A representative of the Motion Picture Association of America told us: "We appreciate the department's commitment to intellectual property protection and look forward to working with both the department and Congress as the process moves ahead." What's still unclear is the kind of reception this legislation might encounter on Capitol Hill. Gonzales may not be terribly popular, but Democrats do tend to be more closely aligned with Hollywood and the recording industry than the GOP. (A few years ago, Republicans even savaged fellow conservatives for allying themselves too closely with copyright holders.) A spokeswoman for Rep. Howard Berman, the California Democrat who heads the House Judiciary subcommittee that focuses on intellectual property, said the congressman is reviewing proposals from the attorney general and from others. The aide said the Hollywood politician plans to introduce his own intellectual property enforcement bill later this year but said his office is not prepared to discuss any details yet. One key Republican was less guarded. "We are reviewing (the attorney general's) proposal. Any plan to stop IP theft will benefit the economy and the American worker," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, who's the top Republican on the House Judiciary committee. "I applaud the attorney general for recognizing the need to protect intellectual property." Still, it's too early to tell what might happen. A similar copyright bill that Smith, the RIAA, and the Software and Information Industry Association announced with fanfare last April never went anywhere. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:51:11 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: video footage of forthcoming epoetry SL performance MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed (apologies for sending this independently; rendering took quite a while. at least the poetics of the performance is relevant) video footage of forthcoming epoetry SL performance http://www.asondheim.org/hhhhh.mp4 please note the writing skillfully employed by sandy baldwin please listen to the composition by azure carter please watch the duet related to the writing and composition please attend to the constant recalibration of camera position please look towards the space between and among the avatars every week brings a new plateau. this plateau is on a new plateau. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:48:25 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: LANGPO AND THE BODY: A REPORT In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Tim--amazing as usual. On 5/15/07 10:32 AM, "Tim Peterson" wrote: > Here's my writeup of the event. I'll post it to the blog later on today. > Apologies in advance if, in my scrawled notes, I might have misquoted > anyone. >=20 > Best, Tim >=20 > The panel on language poetry and the body surprised me in that each of th= e > participants had a very different take on what =E2=80=9Ebody=E2=80=B0 might mean in t= he > context of poetics. Some dealt with phenomenology and some with the > performative aspets of gender, and only one of the essays, that of Bruce > Andrews, connected body with the notion of a romantic authorial subject, = and > even then only as part of a spectrum more descriptive than proscriptive. = The > house was packed and I think the discussion went very well. I look forwar= d > to publishing most or all of these essays as a group in the next issue of > EOAGH, which should be out in June or July, so you=E2=80=9All be able to read t= he > text in full sometime then. >=20 > Maria Damon=E2=80=9As essay traced connections through the work of three poets, > Leslie Scalapino, Carla Harryman, and Nada Gordon and their different > conceptions of the body. She used Benjamin to read Scalapino=E2=80=9As project = as > related to the question of how to endure shocks without suffering > repression, and she saw embodiment here as chiefly an issue of bodies in > spaces, a kin dof phenomenological awareness. She looked at Harryman=E2=80=9As = work > through the lens of gendered bodies in history, the concept of bodies und= er > the state. The dilemma that =E2=80=9Eas a lady, she cannot function as the word > =C5=92lady=E2=80=9A=E2=80=B0 brings up the question =E2=80=9Eis it possible to be both gateway = and > consciousness?=E2=80=B0 Damon looked at Nada=E2=80=9As poetry as a kind of ecriture f= eminine > (!) in which you can feel the presence of the =E2=80=9Ehegemonic brigade in the > wings of the burlesque show.=E2=80=B0 She aptly described Nada=E2=80=9As writing as > =E2=80=9Eterrifyingly ludic femininity=E2=80=B0 and posited Folly=E2=80=9As approach to > consciousness as a =E2=80=9Eutopian alternative to madness.=E2=80=B0 Then she compare= d > aspects of Nada=E2=80=9As project to that of Leslie Scalapino, which is a compa= rison > I don=E2=80=9At believe I=E2=80=9Ave ever seen before. Truly a lively and original ap= proach > to the topic. >=20 > In Steve Benson=E2=80=9As memorable presentation, the poet performed acts of > reading, listering to a tape of himself reading his notes on the panel > topic. These notes were being played back over headphones to him on high > speed while he adopted the role of a reader responding to his own distort= ed > writing, a reader who at times seemed to be something more: =E2=80=9EThings are > awful for me, speaking as the entire human body.=E2=80=B0 His hilarious and > insightful performance was filled with the energy of improvisation and > lively asides: =E2=80=9Emore on that later.=E2=80=B0 Benson walked around the entire = space > while making this talk, which was accompanied by vigorous movements and > theatrical hand gestures, as if to illustrate certain points such as the > physicality of words on a page, the physical experience of being at times > within the page surface, at other times =E2=80=9Ezooming from me to you.=E2=80=B0 >=20 > Leslie Scalapino talked about the role of the hippocampus in experiencing > the relationship between past and present and how memories are formed in = the > writing process. In a really amazing and thoughtful essay, Scalapino > discussed some of the ways in which writing provides a locus for addressi= ng > and intervening in the relationship between past, present, and possible > future: =E2=80=9Eit=E2=80=9As seeing in a space there not being cause-and-effects,=E2=80=B0= the > action of the writing =E2=80=9Ebeing apprehending not forming events.=E2=80=B0 Howeve= r, by > apprehending the SPACE of events, one can change them and thus change the > future. Unlike her example of an early langpo figure (not sure who) who > stated that a poem about a man with AIDS was =E2=80=9Emerely emotional content,= =E2=80=B0 > Scalapino argued offered other terms with which to examine or re-frame th= at > issue: =E2=80=9Ethe relation is instead between the mind and experiencing.=E2=80=B0 S= he > questioned Watten=E2=80=9As notion of langpo as being opposed to =E2=80=9Eexpressive > poetics=E2=80=B0 that supposedly reject modernism, saying that his distinction > =E2=80=9Eprecludes sensation and others=E2=80=9A perceptions as BEING political chang= e.=E2=80=B0 Her > approach of using =E2=80=9Esound/syntax as thought-shape to apprehend mind-shap= e > came close to my own view on the subject in terms of the importance of > phenomenology for writing and the inter-relation of body and mind, not to > mention gender. There is something extremely daring and mind-blowing abou= t > Scalapino=E2=80=9As suggestion that we can =E2=80=9Eeliminate memory as basis or vehi= cle and > thus change the social constructions that are part of us.=E2=80=B0 Perhaps > particularly noteworthy in this talk is one of the first times I have eve= r > heard Leslie Scalapino employ prosopopoeia or apostrophe in a moment of > surprising and wonderful self-interruption: =E2=80=9ELeslie, these things are > affecting your body!=E2=80=B0 >=20 > Last but certainly not least, I was won over by Bruce Andrews very > reasonable and effective essay =E2=80=9EBody & Language,=E2=80=B0 which followed his = earlier > commentary on the topic (see his wonderful Alabama book) but proposed the > situation as a complex sliding scale rather than as opposed, ossified > binaries. Andrews began by addressing the accusation that language poetry= is > usually criticized as a disembodied writing practice, and pointed out tha= t > this critique only makes sense if we draw a parallel between the body and > the author in the sense of the authorial =E2=80=9Eself.=E2=80=B0 Instead of =E2=80=9Ethe pr= eenings > of author control,=E2=80=B0 Andrews offered inter-media analogoies such as the > notion of creating a disjunctive surface as in abstract art. He pointed o= ut > that whereas most romantic poetry deals with traditional ways of > =E2=80=9Eshowcasing=E2=80=B0 embodiment through the =E2=80=9Erepresentation of bodies,=E2=80=B0 t= he goal of > langpo is to resist such an outward pull of representation, creating a > =E2=80=9Esurface that emphasizes the surface of the page.=E2=80=B0 Andrews argued tha= t > language poetry is not necessarily a disembodied form of writing and that > there is always the chance for bodily experience in the emphasis on the > reader, a)thinking, b)loving, c)politicizing. He asked the very useful > question =E2=80=9Ewhat constitutes an expansive freedom for the reader?=E2=80=B0 as w= ell as > the poly-sci-inflected inquiry =E2=80=9Ewhich features of lit propose an > imperialistic text=E2=80=B0? The sliding scale here contrasted on the one hand = the > notion of an untroubled depiction of the authorial self, and on the other > hand the notion of a language without reference, neither of which would b= e a > desirable situation (=E2=80=9Enot phobic avoidance of meaning altogether=E2=80=B0). R= ather, > these extremes lie on a spectrum. They are tools for use in thinking abou= t > the type of generic or particular representation taking place in a text, = and > how this method of representation might relate to =E2=80=9Ethe body of an expan= sive > reader.=E2=80=B0 Andrews ended his essay with an allegory which drew certain > parallels between the concerns of language writing and aspects of the US > policy of containment regarding the Soviet Union during the Cold War. >=20 > There was a provocative question-and-answer period afterward in which we = had > many wonderful questions from Madeline Gins, Bob Perelman, Wystan Curnow, > and many others. I learned a lot from working on this panel and I look > forward to many more such discussions at Segue in the future. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:42:59 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jerry Falwell is dead! And I'm celebrating! An old friend on the phone today who told me he died was upset when I said that I was celebrating, OH WELL! My friend is a Buddhist, so I understand my friend, and respect my friend. But I'm NOT a Buddhist! My only regret is that he went peacefully. When I think of the terrible things he did and said against the queer community, and many others, and his support of the Phelps family who would picket the funerals of gay men who died of AIDS, well, there's just no way I can be quiet about how I feel! REALLY FEEL! IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY INDEED! ANOTHER FASCIST DOWN IS A BEAUTIFUL THING! CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:42:36 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Fwd: LaTasha N. Nevada Diggs at The Kitchen June 1st and 2nd Comments: To: ilivingston@notes.cc.sunysb.edu, edcohen@rci.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:51:35 -0400 >From: "Latasha Diggs" >To: "LaTasha Diggs" >Subject: LaTasha N. Nevada Diggs at The Kitchen June 1st and 2nd > >For folks in NYC, please come and spread the word. >For folks elsewhere, pass it on > >La > >-- >LaTasha N. Nevada Diggs >Writer, Sound Artist, Harlemite >latasha.diggs@gmail.com > >"Space is the place, Space is the place, >Space is the place, yeah...Space is the place." Sun Ra > > >Content-Type: text/html; name="Pheeroan akLaff.html"; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 >X-Attachment-Id: f_142p268 >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Pheeroan akLaff.html" > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:39:10 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: LANGPO AND THE BODY: A REPORT In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable actually tim that would be the "hegemommy=20 brigade." the hegemommy is a term i coined on=20 arriving at minnesota, to refer to an earlier=20 generation of feminists who have becomes somewhat=20 hegemonic, that is what i ws referring to the=20 spirits of irigaray, kristeva, cixous laughing in=20 the wings of nada's flounced skirts... At 2:32 PM +0000 5/15/07, Tim Peterson wrote: >Here's my writeup of the event. I'll post it to=20 >the blog later on today. Apologies in advance=20 >if, in my scrawled notes, I might have misquoted=20 >anyone. > >Best, Tim > >The panel on language poetry and the body=20 >surprised me in that each of the participants=20 >had a very different take on what =93body=94 might=20 >mean in the context of poetics. Some dealt with=20 >phenomenology and some with the performative=20 >aspets of gender, and only one of the essays,=20 >that of Bruce Andrews, connected body with the=20 >notion of a romantic authorial subject, and even=20 >then only as part of a spectrum more descriptive=20 >than proscriptive. The house was packed and I=20 >think the discussion went very well. I look=20 >forward to publishing most or all of these=20 >essays as a group in the next issue of EOAGH,=20 >which should be out in June or July, so you=92ll=20 >be able to read the text in full sometime then. > >Maria Damon=92s essay traced connections through=20 >the work of three poets, Leslie Scalapino, Carla=20 >Harryman, and Nada Gordon and their different=20 >conceptions of the body. She used Benjamin to=20 >read Scalapino=92s project as related to the=20 >question of how to endure shocks without=20 >suffering repression, and she saw embodiment=20 >here as chiefly an issue of bodies in spaces, a=20 >kin dof phenomenological awareness. She looked=20 >at Harryman=92s work through the lens of gendered=20 >bodies in history, the concept of bodies under=20 >the state. The dilemma that =93as a lady, she=20 >cannot function as the word =91lady=92=94 brings up=20 >the question =93is it possible to be both gateway=20 >and consciousness?=94 Damon looked at Nada=92s=20 >poetry as a kind of ecriture feminine (!) in=20 >which you can feel the presence of the=20 >=93hegemonic brigade in the wings of the burlesque=20 >show.=94 She aptly described Nada=92s writing as=20 >=93terrifyingly ludic femininity=94 and posited=20 >Folly=92s approach to consciousness as a =93utopian=20 >alternative to madness.=94 Then she compared=20 >aspects of Nada=92s project to that of Leslie=20 >Scalapino, which is a comparison I don=92t believe=20 >I=92ve ever seen before. Truly a lively and=20 >original approach to the topic. > >In Steve Benson=92s memorable presentation, the=20 >poet performed acts of reading, listering to a=20 >tape of himself reading his notes on the panel=20 >topic. These notes were being played back over=20 >headphones to him on high speed while he adopted=20 >the role of a reader responding to his own=20 >distorted writing, a reader who at times seemed=20 >to be something more: =93Things are awful for me,=20 >speaking as the entire human body.=94 His=20 >hilarious and insightful performance was filled=20 >with the energy of improvisation and lively=20 >asides: =93more on that later.=94 Benson walked=20 >around the entire space while making this talk,=20 >which was accompanied by vigorous movements and=20 >theatrical hand gestures, as if to illustrate=20 >certain points such as the physicality of words=20 >on a page, the physical experience of being at=20 >times within the page surface, at other times=20 >=93zooming from me to you.=94 > >Leslie Scalapino talked about the role of the=20 >hippocampus in experiencing the relationship=20 >between past and present and how memories are=20 >formed in the writing process. In a really=20 >amazing and thoughtful essay, Scalapino=20 >discussed some of the ways in which writing=20 >provides a locus for addressing and intervening=20 >in the relationship between past, present, and=20 >possible future: =93it=92s seeing in a space there=20 >not being cause-and-effects,=94 the action of the=20 >writing =93being apprehending not forming events.=94=20 >However, by apprehending the SPACE of events,=20 >one can change them and thus change the future.=20 >Unlike her example of an early langpo figure=20 >(not sure who) who stated that a poem about a=20 >man with AIDS was =93merely emotional content,=94=20 >Scalapino argued offered other terms with which=20 >to examine or re-frame that issue: =93the relation=20 >is instead between the mind and experiencing.=94=20 >She questioned Watten=92s notion of langpo as=20 >being opposed to =93expressive poetics=94 that=20 >supposedly reject modernism, saying that his=20 >distinction =93precludes sensation and others=92=20 >perceptions as BEING political change.=94 Her=20 >approach of using =93sound/syntax as thought-shape=20 >to apprehend mind-shape came close to my own=20 >view on the subject in terms of the importance=20 >of phenomenology for writing and the=20 >inter-relation of body and mind, not to mention=20 >gender. There is something extremely daring and=20 >mind-blowing about Scalapino=92s suggestion that=20 >we can =93eliminate memory as basis or vehicle and=20 >thus change the social constructions that are=20 >part of us.=94 Perhaps particularly noteworthy in=20 >this talk is one of the first times I have ever=20 >heard Leslie Scalapino employ prosopopoeia or=20 >apostrophe in a moment of surprising and=20 >wonderful self-interruption: =93Leslie, these=20 >things are affecting your body!=94 > >Last but certainly not least, I was won over by=20 >Bruce Andrews very reasonable and effective=20 >essay =93Body & Language,=94 which followed his=20 >earlier commentary on the topic (see his=20 >wonderful Alabama book) but proposed the=20 >situation as a complex sliding scale rather than=20 >as opposed, ossified binaries. Andrews began by=20 >addressing the accusation that language poetry=20 >is usually criticized as a disembodied writing=20 >practice, and pointed out that this critique=20 >only makes sense if we draw a parallel between=20 >the body and the author in the sense of the=20 >authorial =93self.=94 Instead of =93the preenings of=20 >author control,=94 Andrews offered inter-media=20 >analogoies such as the notion of creating a=20 >disjunctive surface as in abstract art. He=20 >pointed out that whereas most romantic poetry=20 >deals with traditional ways of =93showcasing=94=20 >embodiment through the =93representation of=20 >bodies,=94 the goal of langpo is to resist such an=20 >outward pull of representation, creating a=20 >=93surface that emphasizes the surface of the=20 >page.=94 Andrews argued that language poetry is=20 >not necessarily a disembodied form of writing=20 >and that there is always the chance for bodily=20 >experience in the emphasis on the reader,=20 >a)thinking, b)loving, c)politicizing. He asked=20 >the very useful question =93what constitutes an=20 >expansive freedom for the reader?=94 as well as=20 >the poly-sci-inflected inquiry =93which features=20 >of lit propose an imperialistic text=94? The=20 >sliding scale here contrasted on the one hand=20 >the notion of an untroubled depiction of the=20 >authorial self, and on the other hand the notion=20 >of a language without reference, neither of=20 >which would be a desirable situation (=93not=20 >phobic avoidance of meaning altogether=94).=20 >Rather, these extremes lie on a spectrum. They=20 >are tools for use in thinking about the type of=20 >generic or particular representation taking=20 >place in a text, and how this method of=20 >representation might relate to =93the body of an=20 >expansive reader.=94 Andrews ended his essay with=20 >an allegory which drew certain parallels between=20 >the concerns of language writing and aspects of=20 >the US policy of containment regarding the=20 >Soviet Union during the Cold War. > >There was a provocative question-and-answer=20 >period afterward in which we had many wonderful=20 >questions from Madeline Gins, Bob Perelman,=20 >Wystan Curnow, and many others. I learned a lot=20 >from working on this panel and I look forward to=20 >many more such discussions at Segue in the=20 >future. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:04:45 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Tod Edgerton Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Woo Hoo! I always said I would throw a party when Reagan died and then I didn't. I certainly do not care how tacky anyone finds it: A toast to the death of Jerry Falwell; one self-righteous, hypocritically moralizing, neo-fascist, queer-bashing asshole down, a few thousand more to go.... (I certainly hope that wasn't a gross underestimation.) Tod CA Conrad wrote: Jerry Falwell is dead! And I'm celebrating! An old friend on the phone today who told me he died was upset when I said that I was celebrating, OH WELL! My friend is a Buddhist, so I understand my friend, and respect my friend. But I'm NOT a Buddhist! My only regret is that he went peacefully. When I think of the terrible things he did and said against the queer community, and many others, and his support of the Phelps family who would picket the funerals of gay men who died of AIDS, well, there's just no way I can be quiet about how I feel! REALLY FEEL! IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY INDEED! ANOTHER FASCIST DOWN IS A BEAUTIFUL THING! CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com Michael Tod Edgerton Special Lecturer in English Providence College 549 River Avenue Providence, RI 02918-0001 medgerto@providence.edu "There's the mute probability of a reciprocal lack of understanding" - Mei-mei Berssenbrugge --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:40:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I only regret that J. F. could have been holding hands with Pat Robertson & James Dobson (among others) at the instant of his death... Perhaps he could have pulled them ALL into Beulah Land Gerald S. (speed-dialing Larry Flynt...) > Jerry Falwell is dead! And I'm celebrating! > > An old friend on the phone today who told > me he died was upset when I said that I was > celebrating, OH WELL! My friend is a > Buddhist, so I understand my friend, and > respect my friend. But I'm NOT a Buddhist! > > My only regret is that he went peacefully. > > When I think of the terrible things he did and > said against the queer community, and many > others, and his support of the Phelps family > who would picket the funerals of gay men > who died of AIDS, well, there's just no way > I can be quiet about how I feel! REALLY FEEL! > > IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY INDEED! ANOTHER > FASCIST DOWN IS A BEAUTIFUL THING! > CAConrad > http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:16:07 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Suzanne Burns Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am no fan of Falwell, but dude.... I hate to break it to you but just because he is dead, does not mean that what he believed in and represented has also died. One can wish of course, but really death doesn't change these things at all. Its just death. There is nothing to celebrate. You are focused entirely on the wrong thing. You are still yourself, and the world is still the world, and there are, alas, plenty of Falwells out there who will cherish his memory no matter how insane that sounds to us. Letting go of someone you can't stand is not that much different from letting go of someone you love. Among otehr things, you have to let go of the illusion that their death will effect a profound change in the world or in your life or result in hundreds of dnacing munchkins. It won't. Sorry. Falwell was just a person. There is still plenty of work to do. Cheers, Suzanne ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 12:14:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Thomas savage Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am a Buddhist poet but I, too, enjoy the fact that Jerry Falwell's karma finally caught up with him. Regards, Tom Savage CA Conrad wrote: Jerry Falwell is dead! And I'm celebrating! An old friend on the phone today who told me he died was upset when I said that I was celebrating, OH WELL! My friend is a Buddhist, so I understand my friend, and respect my friend. But I'm NOT a Buddhist! My only regret is that he went peacefully. When I think of the terrible things he did and said against the queer community, and many others, and his support of the Phelps family who would picket the funerals of gay men who died of AIDS, well, there's just no way I can be quiet about how I feel! REALLY FEEL! IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY INDEED! ANOTHER FASCIST DOWN IS A BEAUTIFUL THING! CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:51:07 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Burt Kimmelman Subject: NYC Reading by Marsh Hawk Press Poets, 5/27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An Evening of Poetry by Marsh Hawk Press Poets: Burt Kimmelman, Stephen Paul Millter, Rochelle Ratner, and Corinne = Robins May 27th at 6=20 Biscuit Barbecue 230 5th Ave Brooklyn, NY 11215=20 Phone: (718) 399-2161=20 Between President Street and Carroll Street=20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:48:18 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Barry Schwabsky Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Au contraire, my life is better already. Suzanne Burns wrote: I am no fan of Falwell, but dude.... I hate to break it to you but just because he is dead, does not mean that what he believed in and represented has also died. One can wish of course, but really death doesn't change these things at all. Its just death. There is nothing to celebrate. You are focused entirely on the wrong thing. You are still yourself, and the world is still the world, and there are, alas, plenty of Falwells out there who will cherish his memory no matter how insane that sounds to us. Letting go of someone you can't stand is not that much different from letting go of someone you love. Among otehr things, you have to let go of the illusion that their death will effect a profound change in the world or in your life or result in hundreds of dnacing munchkins. It won't. Sorry. Falwell was just a person. There is still plenty of work to do. Cheers, Suzanne ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:41:58 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Beckett Subject: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Falwell's politics/public presence was noxious, but I can't bring myself to rejoice in anyone's death .I understand your emotions, CAC, just as I deeply respect your person, but...I'm troubled by your post and some of the easy responses to same. Wishing "evil doers" dead doesn't help us very much. It perpetuates some really retrograde processes. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:29:45 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: <20070515200445.58874.qmail@web54202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Also a diehard supporter of apartheid. At 04:04 PM 5/15/2007, you wrote: >Woo Hoo! I always said I would throw a party when Reagan died and >then I didn't. I certainly do not care how tacky anyone finds it: A >toast to the death of Jerry Falwell; one self-righteous, >hypocritically moralizing, neo-fascist, queer-bashing asshole down, >a few thousand more to go.... > > (I certainly hope that wasn't a gross underestimation.) > > Tod > >CA Conrad wrote: > Jerry Falwell is dead! And I'm celebrating! > >An old friend on the phone today who told >me he died was upset when I said that I was >celebrating, OH WELL! My friend is a >Buddhist, so I understand my friend, and >respect my friend. But I'm NOT a Buddhist! > >My only regret is that he went peacefully. > >When I think of the terrible things he did and >said against the queer community, and many >others, and his support of the Phelps family >who would picket the funerals of gay men >who died of AIDS, well, there's just no way >I can be quiet about how I feel! REALLY FEEL! > >IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY INDEED! ANOTHER >FASCIST DOWN IS A BEAUTIFUL THING! >CAConrad >http://PhillySound.blogspot.com > > > >Michael Tod Edgerton >Special Lecturer in English >Providence College >549 River Avenue >Providence, RI 02918-0001 >medgerto@providence.edu > >"There's the mute probability of a reciprocal lack of understanding" > - Mei-mei Berssenbrugge > >--------------------------------- >Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security >of spyware protection. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:57:44 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Sarah Rosenthal Subject: Robert Duncan Obit in SF Chronicle? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, This is another post that may be more relevant to Bay Area types.... Can anyone verify that Robert Duncan received front-page attention in the San Francisco Chronicle upon his death in 1988? I know I've read that somewhere but I can't figure out where. This is for the introduction to a collection of interviews with Bay Area experimental writers. Many thanks, Sarah Rosenthal ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:47:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Farid Matuk Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If celebrations aren't built on illusion, then on what? I'll be dancing tonight. Cheers, Farid --- Suzanne Burns wrote: > I am no fan of Falwell, but dude.... > > I hate to break it to you but just because he is > dead, does not mean that > what he believed in and represented has also died. > > One can wish of course, but really death doesn't > change these things at > all. Its just death. There is nothing to > celebrate. You are focused > entirely on the wrong thing. You are still > yourself, and the world is still > the world, and there are, alas, plenty of Falwells > out there who will > cherish his memory no matter how insane that sounds > to us. > > Letting go of someone you can't stand is not that > much different from > letting go of someone you love. Among otehr things, > you have to let go of > the illusion that their death will effect a profound > change in the world or > in your life or result in hundreds of dnacing > munchkins. It won't. Sorry. > Falwell was just a person. There is still plenty of > work to do. > > > Cheers, > > Suzanne > ____________________________________________________________________________________Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:01:06 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear Suzanne, yes, everything you say is true. However... When I was a kid in high school AIDS broke out, and I was living in rural America, terribly in Love with my boyfriend. Jerry Falwell was a name on the tip of every tongue as a positive. In other words where I come from Falwell was someone to look up to and admire. And people did, and you were afraid of these people if you knew what was good for you. And when everyone found out that my friend was more than my "friend," well, our lives were never the same. Never the same. In fact our lives soon became -- literally became -- unbearable. And we were just kids, and we got high all the time just to get through each day. And while it toughened me up and got me used to the extreme brutality possible in this world, my boyfriend was destroyed. And while I understand what you say, and feel you make valid points, we still need to cut a little place for ourselves in this world where we can be free enough in all the misery and suffering we have endured to CELEBRATE some release. And yes, Jerry Falwell's death for me is a celebration! He was an unapologetic fascist who spread so much hatred, and ruined so many lives, and the fucking NEWS right now is making the man sound like a charming, wise old Yoda. His life is something I want VERY MUCH WANT to celebrate being over. For all those I have LOVED in this world who have suffered and died as a DIRECT result of his support of homophobia and misogyny, the drinks I toast tonight are for THEM! To me, the death of Jerry Falwell is like celebrating a war ending. His wish for genocide for queers and outspoken women is reason enough to be happy he is dead. It's almost as good as Ronald Reagan's death! Ah, the death of evil men feels like a fresh, clean patch of Earth has been cleared for a better world! And I LOVE this world so much! CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:39:46 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Suzanne Burns Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: <123754.45400.qm@web35613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Aw hell, okay. I'm putting on my tap shoes. :-) Might as well join the riotous party even if there will be no shortage of vicious creeps to curse tomorrow. Cocktails? Cheers to all, Suzanne On 5/15/07, Farid Matuk wrote: > > If celebrations aren't built on illusion, then on > what? I'll be dancing tonight. > > Cheers, > Farid > > > --- Suzanne Burns wrote: > > > I am no fan of Falwell, but dude.... > > > > I hate to break it to you but just because he is > > dead, does not mean that > > what he believed in and represented has also died. > > > > One can wish of course, but really death doesn't > > change these things at > > all. Its just death. There is nothing to > > celebrate. You are focused > > entirely on the wrong thing. You are still > > yourself, and the world is still > > the world, and there are, alas, plenty of Falwells > > out there who will > > cherish his memory no matter how insane that sounds > > to us. > > > > Letting go of someone you can't stand is not that > > much different from > > letting go of someone you love. Among otehr things, > > you have to let go of > > the illusion that their death will effect a profound > > change in the world or > > in your life or result in hundreds of dnacing > > munchkins. It won't. Sorry. > > Falwell was just a person. There is still plenty of > > work to do. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Yahoo! > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > -- "I will take the Ring to Mordor...though...I do not know the way." Frodo Baggins, Fellowship of the Ring ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:18:42 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: 59th Anniversary of Al-Nakba & Rev. Falwell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for this very true letter Suzanne Burns.Today marks the 59th anni= versary of Al-Nakba (The Catastrophe)--the forced removal of Palestinians f= rom their homelands and the Right of Return which still remains a dream at = best--Reverend Fallwell was a vociferous and outspoken supporter of Israel = for decades and a fund raiser as well. Recently he had converted to the be= lief of some branches of Evangelicism that Jewish people go directly to Hea= ven, the "Dual Covenant". (Though an admirer of his support, Abe Foxman wa= s also critical of some of Falwell's views. Not the sort of friend anyone= really keen on having.) (I don't pretend to understand this in great deta= il--) He was as violently bigoted against Palestinians and Arabs as aga= inst most of the human beings on the face of the earth. While Preside= nt, Jimmy Carter said, "Speaking as a Christian, Jerry Falwell should go to= Hell." This very day as one bigot passes on--many more are being born-= -literally and figuratively--the work of Jerry Falwell is never done . . . = "My name is Legion"--One can celebrate him personally taking the Big Sleep-= -but tomorrow morning there will be many more Jerry's hitting the pavements= --airwaves--print media--"coming to a town near you--and you--"--the world = over--in the guise of all sorts of rhetorics philosophies and ideologies--"= Legion" could care less abt a celebration or more--haven't you got a hangov= er?? Legion laughs--you got to pay to play--- As Suzanne says--still p= lenty of work to do-- > Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:16:07 -0400> From: q= ueenmouse@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYE= S, GET OUTTA BED!> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU> > I am no fan of Falwe= ll, but dude....> > I hate to break it to you but just because he is dead, = does not mean that> what he believed in and represented has also died.> > O= ne can wish of course, but really death doesn't change these things at> all= . Its just death. There is nothing to celebrate. You are focused> entire= ly on the wrong thing. You are still yourself, and the world is still> the= world, and there are, alas, plenty of Falwells out there who will> cherish= his memory no matter how insane that sounds to us.> > Letting go of someon= e you can't stand is not that much different from> letting go of someone yo= u love. Among otehr things, you have to let go of> the illusion that their= death will effect a profound change in the world or> in your life or resul= t in hundreds of dnacing munchkins. It won't. Sorry.> Falwell was just a = person. There is still plenty of work to do.> > > Cheers,> > Suzanne _________________________________________________________________ Add some color. Personalize your inbox with your favorite colors. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=3Den-us&ocid= =3DTXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_addcolor_0507= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 16:18:14 -0700 Reply-To: linda norton Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: linda norton Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Falwell's karma and ours may be different, but death is the great equalizer. Remember in the Clint Eastwood movie when one of his cronies rejoices in the death of a bad guy, saying, "He sure had it coming!'" And Eastwood squints and says, "We ALL got it coming.'" I'm with Suzanne--all the hatred he stood for lives on. Don't rejoice--organize. To paraphrase Mother Jones. -----Original Message----- >From: Thomas savage >Sent: May 15, 2007 12:14 PM >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! > >I am a Buddhist poet but I, too, enjoy the fact that Jerry Falwell's karma finally caught up with him. Regards, Tom Savage > >CA Conrad wrote: Jerry Falwell is dead! And I'm celebrating! > >An old friend on the phone today who told >me he died was upset when I said that I was >celebrating, OH WELL! My friend is a >Buddhist, so I understand my friend, and >respect my friend. But I'm NOT a Buddhist! > >My only regret is that he went peacefully. > >When I think of the terrible things he did and >said against the queer community, and many >others, and his support of the Phelps family >who would picket the funerals of gay men >who died of AIDS, well, there's just no way >I can be quiet about how I feel! REALLY FEEL! > >IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY INDEED! ANOTHER >FASCIST DOWN IS A BEAUTIFUL THING! >CAConrad >http://PhillySound.blogspot.com > > > >--------------------------------- >Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. Like snow having second thoughts and coming back To be wary about this, to embellish that, as thought life were a party At which work got done. John Ashbery, from PUNISHING THE MYTH ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:12:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: Robert Duncan Obit in SF Chronicle? In-Reply-To: <270377.17042.qm@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'd bet that any good library in California has the Chronicle on microfiche. Mark At 05:57 PM 5/15/2007, you wrote: >Hi, > > This is another post that may be more relevant to Bay Area > types.... Can anyone verify that Robert Duncan received front-page > attention in the San Francisco Chronicle upon his death in 1988? I > know I've read that somewhere but I can't figure out where. This is > for the introduction to a collection of interviews with Bay Area > experimental writers. > > Many thanks, > Sarah Rosenthal ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 16:09:25 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: gfrym@EARTHLINK.NET Subject: Re: Robert Duncan Obit in SF Chronicle? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sarah, I happen to have the Thursday, February 4, 1988 San Francisco Chronicle = because it did indeed print a front page story about Robert's death = written by Kevin Leary. Headline: Renowned Poet Robert Duncan Dies in = S.F. Best, Gloria ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Sarah Rosenthal" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Robert Duncan Obit in SF Chronicle? > Hi, > =20 > This is another post that may be more relevant to Bay Area types.... = Can anyone verify that Robert Duncan received front-page attention in = the San Francisco Chronicle upon his death in 1988? I know I've read = that somewhere but I can't figure out where. This is for the = introduction to a collection of interviews with Bay Area experimental = writers. > =20 > Many thanks, > Sarah Rosenthal ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 16:06:29 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: patrick dunagan Subject: Re: Robert Duncan Obit in SF Chronicle? In-Reply-To: <270377.17042.qm@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes, there was a write up "Renowned Poet Robert Duncan dies in SF" on the front page of the Feb. 4 issue that continues with a nice photo to boot on page A4. If you send me your address I can mail ya a copy if you like. Cheers, Patrick On 5/15/07, Sarah Rosenthal wrote: > Hi, > > This is another post that may be more relevant to Bay Area types.... Can anyone verify that Robert Duncan received front-page attention in the San Francisco Chronicle upon his death in 1988? I know I've read that somewhere but I can't figure out where. This is for the introduction to a collection of interviews with Bay Area experimental writers. > > Many thanks, > Sarah Rosenthal > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:48:48 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Harrison Horton Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 Suzanne is right. He had tons of followers who won't let a little thing lik= e death stop him/them from achieving his stated goals. One of his followers= will soon rise to the top to continue the mission. His death is simply a r= espite. David Harrison Horton 1341 58th Avenue #9 Oakland CA 94621 chasep= ark@hotmail.com > Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:48:18 +0100> From: b.schwabsky@BTOPENWORLD.COM>= Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED!> T= o: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU> > Au contraire, my life is better already.= > > Suzanne Burns wrote: I am no fan of Falwell, but= dude....> > I hate to break it to you but just because he is dead, does no= t mean that> what he believed in and represented has also died.> > One can = wish of course, but really death doesn't change these things at> all. Its j= ust death. There is nothing to celebrate. You are focused> entirely on the = wrong thing. You are still yourself, and the world is still> the world, and= there are, alas, plenty of Falwells out there who will> cherish his memory= no matter how insane that sounds to us.> > Letting go of someone you can't= stand is not that much different from> letting go of someone you love. Amo= ng otehr things, you have to let go of> the illusion that their death will = effect a profound change in the world or> in your life or result in hundred= s of dnacing munchkins. It won't. Sorry.> Falwell was just a person. There = is still plenty of work to do.> > > Cheers,> > Suzanne _________________________________________________________________ Add some color. Personalize your inbox with your favorite colors. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=3Den-us&ocid= =3DTXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_addcolor_0507= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:29:39 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm with Conrad -- death comes to everyone, and I have no remorse that his has finally arrived. He encouraged hate like nobody's business. He also demonized the purple Teletubbie for allegedly being gay (in spite of being an asexual androgynous stuffed toy that giggled at most) because 'he' carried a purse and wore a triangle on top of his head -- which, yes, is laughable in the superficial, but is truly just the tip of how Falwell encouraged the very real witch hunt mentality, the one that has at least a third of gay teens committing suicide, even today. Even today. And his god is the god of "Judge not lest ye be judged." Another selective interpretor of "The Word" bites the dust, Ding Dong, Amen. --------------------------------- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:51:11 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dana Rapisardi Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/15/2007 9:20:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, caconrad13@GMAIL.COM writes: Dear Suzanne, yes, everything you say is true. However... When I was a kid in high school AIDS broke out, and I was living in rural America, terribly in Love with my boyfriend. Jerry Falwell was a name on the tip of every tongue as a positive. In other words where I come from Falwell was someone to look up to and admire. And people did, and you were afraid of these people if you knew what was good for you. And when everyone found out that my friend was more than my "friend," well, our lives were never the same. Never the same. In fact our lives soon became -- literally became -- unbearable. And we were just kids, and we got high all the time just to get through each day. And while it toughened me up and got me used to the extreme brutality possible in this world, my boyfriend was destroyed. And while I understand what you say, and feel you make valid points, we still need to cut a little place for ourselves in this world where we can be free enough in all the misery and suffering we have endured to CELEBRATE some release. And yes, Jerry Falwell's death for me is a celebration! He was an unapologetic fascist who spread so much hatred, and ruined so many lives, and the fucking NEWS right now is making the man sound like a charming, wise old Yoda. His life is something I want VERY MUCH WANT to celebrate being over. For all those I have LOVED in this world who have suffered and died as a DIRECT result of his support of homophobia and misogyny, the drinks I toast tonight are for THEM! To me, the death of Jerry Falwell is like celebrating a war ending. His wish for genocide for queers and outspoken women is reason enough to be happy he is dead. It's almost as good as Ronald Reagan's death! Ah, the death of evil men feels like a fresh, clean patch of Earth has been cleared for a better world! And I LOVE this world so much! CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Sending love to you, CAC. And my contribution to our festivities: 'Top a midden the Rev. Falwell sits In the midst of Hell's sulfurous pits Satan soon comes his way The same time every day Lights a short fuse and blows him to bits. Dana Rapisardi drapy1@aol.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:07:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Suzanne Burns Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I fully understand the anger people feel toward this man. But.... I am also deeply uncomfortable with the "dance on his grave" energy. Its so feral, and it feeds right back into what he stood for. Please understand that I am deeply conflicted. I say this as someone who comes from a family that has.... people like this in it, and sometimes some of us say "Oh I can't wait to wear red at that funeral!". I don't want to go into details, but I know all too well that letting go and taking the high road is the better way. I'm not saying this for him-- but for us. Its the better way for US. Glee is not pretty, and over time will carve bitchy lines in one's face. Please continue fighting for the living. Suzanne ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:16:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The sad thing is that Falwell will be inevitably replaced my someone just as Foul. Hate speech incorporated. When I once worked in Juvenile Hall - every time a hugely difficult person would leave, and folks would sigh all around as if liberation had arrived, another dude would show up and be just as difficult. The difference here is that Falwell never had to serve time for the consequences of his speech - tho he constantly shouted fire in a crowded theater, i.e. the US. Stephen V http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > > In a message dated 5/15/2007 9:20:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > caconrad13@GMAIL.COM writes: > > Dear Suzanne, yes, everything you say is true. > > However... > When I was a kid in high school AIDS broke out, > and I was living in rural America, terribly in Love > with my boyfriend. Jerry Falwell was a name on > the tip of every tongue as a positive. In other words > where I come from Falwell was someone to look > up to and admire. And people did, and you were > afraid of these people if you knew what was good > for you. > > And when everyone found out that my friend was > more than my "friend," well, our lives were never > the same. Never the same. In fact our lives soon > became -- literally became -- unbearable. And we > were just kids, and we got high all the time just > to get through each day. And while it toughened > me up and got me used to the extreme brutality > possible in this world, my boyfriend was destroyed. > > And while I understand what you say, and feel > you make valid points, we still need to cut a little > place for ourselves in this world where we can > be free enough in all the misery and suffering we > have endured to CELEBRATE some release. And > yes, Jerry Falwell's death for me is a celebration! > > He was an unapologetic fascist who spread so > much hatred, and ruined so many lives, and > the fucking NEWS right now is making the man > sound like a charming, wise old Yoda. His life is > something I want VERY MUCH WANT to celebrate > being over. For all those I have LOVED in this > world who have suffered and died as a DIRECT > result of his support of homophobia and misogyny, > the drinks I toast tonight are for THEM! > > To me, the death of Jerry Falwell is like celebrating > a war ending. His wish for genocide for queers > and outspoken women is reason enough to be > happy he is dead. > > It's almost as good as Ronald Reagan's death! > Ah, the death of evil men feels like a fresh, clean > patch of Earth has been cleared for a better world! > And I LOVE this world so much! > > CAConrad > http://PhillySound.blogspot.com > > > > > Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Sending love to you, CAC. > > And my contribution to our festivities: > > > 'Top a midden the Rev. Falwell sits > In the midst of Hell's sulfurous pits > Satan soon comes his way > The same time every day > Lights a short fuse and blows him to bits. > Dana Rapisardi > drapy1@aol.com > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:19:16 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hate is hate. Hating in the name of good: we all do that. But he was reprehensible. However the problem's elsewhere - those who keep their mouths shut, those who don't have the pulpit, those who whisper. And they're legion. And they're close to all of us. And Robertson's still alive. But I'm glad he's dead. But I wish a hell of a lot of others were dead too. - Alan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:26:16 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If CNN is any indication of the popular media's response, Falwell isn't exactly being celebrated, thankfully. They cite the studies of an anthropologist focused on Falwell's legacy, significantly noting where he placed the blame for Sept 11: To many critics, this paradox is what makes his legacy so lamentable. "He made it comfortable for churches to get actively involved in politics," says the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. "His strategy will be continued by his would-be successors -- a focus on hot-button issues like gay marriage (rather than significant moral issues like child poverty and health care), and an eagerness to make outrageous statements to the media, in order to build a religious-political empire." Many now remember him most for outrageous statements he made after leaving the Moral Majority -- in 1999, his house organ the National Liberty Journal warned parents that the Tinky Winky TV character was secretly gay and morally dangerous; in 2001, he blamed the September 11 terrorist attack on "pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America." http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/15/falwell.legacy/ --------------------------------- You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:48:58 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I too come from that tradition, Suzanne, having grown up on the Bible Belt myself. In fact, I received a scholarship at the ripe age of 16 in the amount of $5,000 directly from Falwell (or his stamped on signature) to attend Liberty University. I have family members who still proudly wear racist slogans ("You've Got Your X, We've Got Ours" - complete with the GA confederate flag was the most recent) and celebrate blows against their assorted brands of evil, closely aligned with Falwell's, some that would include me if they actually acknowledged certain aspects of my life. I just think it's strange that our society allows us to feel and express only one particular emotion for someone's death, sadness, but the expression of relief is somehow inappropriate? I mean, I'm not bouncing off the walls under the illusion that homophobic campaigns are somehow finished, but that one very large hateful movement has received even the slightest of blows, or a pause, does give me some pleasure. To equate the evil, the hate mongering that Falwell did with feeling and expressing this kind of relief over his recent absence, or those followers' "loss", on a listserv no less, is misleading. It's not a clear-cut hate-for-hate equation. Their hate has serious consequences that have resulted in much measurable pain and many deaths. I'm not finding pleasure in some sadist notion nor am I condoning aggressive hate that results in someone's pain or death -- likewise, any physical pain he felt doesn't delight me, but to feel some gladness that his brand of aggressive homophobic tactics may have taken a blow simply because Falwell is dead certainly provides a momentary gladness, regardless of how that implicates even my own family members. When I express that and articulate why, I *am* taking the high road and fighting for the living. Amy Suzanne Burns wrote: I fully understand the anger people feel toward this man. But.... I am also deeply uncomfortable with the "dance on his grave" energy. Its so feral, and it feeds right back into what he stood for. Please understand that I am deeply conflicted. I say this as someone who comes from a family that has.... people like this in it, and sometimes some of us say "Oh I can't wait to wear red at that funeral!". I don't want to go into details, but I know all too well that letting go and taking the high road is the better way. I'm not saying this for him-- but for us. Its the better way for US. Glee is not pretty, and over time will carve bitchy lines in one's face. Please continue fighting for the living. Suzanne --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:30:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Subject: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10806.html (From Craig Smith: Smithcraft Press) I have to admit, writing about Falwell=92s death poses an awkward = challenge for me. When I worked at Americans United for Separation of Church and = State for several years, I read Falwell=92s materials, I listened to his = speeches, I watched his interviews, and got a real sense for who this man was and = what he devoted his life to.=20 In literally every instance, I was repelled and appalled. But is it not callous to bash a man just hours after his death? I have another idea =97 I=92ll document Jerry Falwell=92s professional = life and let his record speak for itself. March 1980: Falwell tells an Anchorage rally about a conversation with President Carter at the White House. Commenting on a January breakfast meeting, Falwell claimed to have asked Carter why he had =93practicing homosexuals=94 on the senior staff at the White House. According to = Falwell, Carter replied, =93Well, I am president of all the American people, and = I believe I should represent everyone.=94 When others who attended the = White House event insisted that the exchange never happened, Falwell responded that his account =93was not intended to be a verbatim report,=94 but = rather an =93honest portrayal=94 of Carter=92s position. August 1980: After Southern Baptist Convention President Bailey Smith = tells a Dallas Religious Right gathering that =93God Almighty does not hear = the prayer of a Jew,=94 Falwell gives a similar view. =93I do not = believe,=94 he told reporters, =93that God answers the prayer of any unredeemed Gentile or = Jew.=94 After a meeting with an American Jewish Committee rabbi, he changed = course, telling an interviewer on NBC=92s =93Meet the Press=94 that =93God hears = the prayers of all persons=85. God hears everything.=94 July 1984: Falwell is forced to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000 = after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, Falwell denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches =93brute = beasts=94 and =93a vile and Satanic system=94 that will =93one day be utterly = annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven.=94 When Sloan insisted he had a = tape, Falwell promised $5,000 if he could produce it. Sloan did so, Falwell refused to pay and Sloan successfully sued. Falwell appealed, with his attorney charging that the Jewish judge in the case was prejudiced. He = lost again and was forced to pay an additional $2,875 in sanctions and court fees. October 1987: The Federal Election Commission fines Falwell for = transferring $6.7 million in funds intended for his ministry to political committees. February 1988: The U.S. Supreme Court strikes down a $200,000 jury award = to Falwell for =93emotional distress=94 he suffered because of a Hustler = magazine parody. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, usually a Falwell favorite, wrote the unanimous opinion in Hustler v. Falwell, ruling that the First Amendment protects free speech. February 1993: The Internal Revenue Service determines that funds from Falwell=92s Old Time Gospel Hour program were illegally funneled to a political action committee. The IRS forced Falwell to pay $50,000 and retroactively revoked the Old Time Gospel Hour=92s tax-exempt status for 1986-87. March 1993: Despite his promise to Jewish groups to stop referring to America as a =93Christian nation,=94 Falwell gives a sermon saying, = =93We must never allow our children to forget that this is a Christian nation. We = must take back what is rightfully ours.=94 1994-1995: Falwell is criticized for using his =93Old Time Gospel = Hour=94 to hawk a scurrilous video called =93The Clinton Chronicles=94 that makes a = number of unsubstantiated charges against President Bill Clinton =97 among them = that he is a drug addict and that he arranged the murders of political = enemies in Arkansas. Despite claims he had no ties to the project, evidence = surfaced that Falwell helped bankroll the venture with $200,000 paid to a group called Citizens for Honest Government (CHG). CHG=92s Pat Matrisciana = later admitted that Falwell and he staged an infomercial interview promoting = the video in which a silhouetted reporter said his life was in danger for investigating Clinton. (Matrisciana himself posed as the reporter.) = =93That was Jerry=92s idea to do that,=94 Matrisciana recalled. =93He thought = that would be dramatic.=94=20 November 1997: Falwell accepts $3.5 million from a front group = representing controversial Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon to ease Liberty = University=92s financial woes.=20 April 1998: Confronted on national television with a controversial quote from America Can Be Saved!, a published collection of his sermons, = Falwell denies having written the book or had anything to do with it. In the = 1979 work, Falwell wrote, =93I hope to live to see the day when, as in the = early days of our country, we won=92t have any public schools. The churches = will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a = happy day that will be!=94 Despite Falwell=92s denial, Sword of the Lord = Publishing, which produced the book, confirms that Falwell wrote it. January 1999: Falwell tells a pastors=92 conference in Kingsport, Tenn., = that the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible is alive today and =93of course = he=92ll be Jewish.=94 February 1999: Falwell becomes the object of nationwide ridicule after = his National Liberty Journal newspaper issues a =93parents alert=94 warning = that Tinky Winky, a character on the popular PBS children=92s show = =93Teletubbies,=94 might be gay. September 2001: Falwell blames Americans for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. =93The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God = will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we = make God mad. I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, = all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their = face and say, =91You helped this happen.=92=94 November 2005: Falwell spearheads campaign to resist =93war on = Christmas.=94 February 2007: Falwell describes global warming as a conspiracy = orchestrated by Satan, liberals, and The Weather Channel. Say what you will about the man and his life, but he leaves behind a colorful background.=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 07:14:40 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Barry Schwabsky Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In general, we live with the paradox that death is the only ground for hope--insofar as it clears the way for people who may be better than we are. And almost anybody is better than that guy. CA Conrad wrote: Dear Suzanne, yes, everything you say is true. However... When I was a kid in high school AIDS broke out, and I was living in rural America, terribly in Love with my boyfriend. Jerry Falwell was a name on the tip of every tongue as a positive. In other words where I come from Falwell was someone to look up to and admire. And people did, and you were afraid of these people if you knew what was good for you. And when everyone found out that my friend was more than my "friend," well, our lives were never the same. Never the same. In fact our lives soon became -- literally became -- unbearable. And we were just kids, and we got high all the time just to get through each day. And while it toughened me up and got me used to the extreme brutality possible in this world, my boyfriend was destroyed. And while I understand what you say, and feel you make valid points, we still need to cut a little place for ourselves in this world where we can be free enough in all the misery and suffering we have endured to CELEBRATE some release. And yes, Jerry Falwell's death for me is a celebration! He was an unapologetic fascist who spread so much hatred, and ruined so many lives, and the fucking NEWS right now is making the man sound like a charming, wise old Yoda. His life is something I want VERY MUCH WANT to celebrate being over. For all those I have LOVED in this world who have suffered and died as a DIRECT result of his support of homophobia and misogyny, the drinks I toast tonight are for THEM! To me, the death of Jerry Falwell is like celebrating a war ending. His wish for genocide for queers and outspoken women is reason enough to be happy he is dead. It's almost as good as Ronald Reagan's death! Ah, the death of evil men feels like a fresh, clean patch of Earth has been cleared for a better world! And I LOVE this world so much! CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 01:15:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Carol Novack Subject: Mad Hatters' Review Events in NYC: June 8th at KGB Bar; June 10th Fundraiser, Gallery Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Our next KGB Bar Poetry, Prose & Anything Goes Series will take place on Friday, June 8th, 7:00 - 9:00 pm. It will feature Vanessa Place, Debra Di Blasi, Sissy Boyd and actors reading excerpts from my new play. Please see our Events page for bios and other details. On Sunday, June 10th, 5:00 =96 11:00 + PM, Mad Hatters' Review will host their first Live-action Multimedia Fundraising Extravaganza at Gallery Bar, 120 Orchard Street (near Delancey), an innovative new venue/art space in Manhattan's Lower East Side.. The event will include improvisational live music, dancing (to live music), readings by MHR contributors and guests(including Eric Darton, Tsipi Keller, and Ranbir Sidhi), screenings of video art and animations, a photo/art slide-show, a silent auction of donated books and artworks (including books by Vernon Frazer, Vanessa Place (Les Figues Press), Debra Di Blasi and George Held, and artwork by Robert Kirschbaum and Anne Pearce et al.), plus special guests, edible tidbits, an= d infamous Mad Hatters' facoctails at an attractive discount. An open reading will take place toward the end of the event, time and stamina permitting. Tickets ($20) may be purchased online or at the door. But please RSVP to madhatters at gmail if you won't be paying online. Edible morsels, as well as edible mortals, will be provided. Please see details at our website (Events page). MAD HATTERS' REVIEW: Edgy & Enlightened Literature, Art & Music in the Age of Dementia: http://www.madhattersreview.com KEEP THE MAD HATTERS ALIVE! MAKE A TAX DEDUCTIBLE DONATION HERE: https://www.fracturedatlas.org/site/contribute/donate/580 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 00:30:59 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Mumia Case Reaches Its Climax (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-182913516-1179289859=:5534" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-182913516-1179289859=:5534 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:33:22 -0400 From: moderator@PORTSIDE.ORG To: PORTSIDE@LISTS.PORTSIDE.ORG Subject: Mumia Case Reaches Its Climax The Final Showdown - Mumia Case Reaches Its Climax By Dave Lindorff and Linn Washington, Jr. CounterPunch.org - May 15, 2007 http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff05152007.html The case of death row prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal, now a quarter of a century long, is heading to a climax this Thursday in a hearing before a three-judge panel of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia. It is a hearing that could result in a new trial for the Philadelphia journalist and former Black Panther, or possibly in a new date with the executioner. The wide range of possible outcomes of this hearing results from the fact that Abu-Jamal and the Philadelphia District Attorney have filed cross-appeals in the case. Abu-Jamal, convicted in 1982 for the 1981 slaying of white Philadelphia Police Officer Daniel Faulkner during an arrest of Abu-Jamal's younger brother William, is appealing his conviction. He is arguing that his jury was unconstitutionally purged of black jurors by the prosecutor, who used peremptory challenges to bar 10 or 11 black jurors from being seated, though all had said that they could vote for a death penalty. He is also appealing his conviction on the ground that the prosecutor, Joseph McGill, improperly diminished the jury's sense of responsibility for their verdict by telling them that a guilty verdict would "not be final" since there would be "appeal after appeal." The DA's office, meanwhile, has appealed a 2001 decision by Federal District Judge William Yohn overturning Abu-Jamal's death sentence-a ruling that if sustained, converts Abu-Jamal's penalty to life in prison without possibility of parole. It is impossible to second-guess what the three judges sitting on this appeal will decide on any of the claims before them, but looking at their prior decisions, all three of the judges, who include Chief Judge Anthony Scirica and Judge Robert Cowen, both Reagan appointees, and Judge Thomas Ambro, a Clinton appointee have, during their time on the Third Circuit, overturned capital convictions based upon the same claim Abu-Jamal is making about race-based exclusion of jurors by the prosecution. In his federal habeas appeal of his conviction-the so-called Batson claim regarding jury bias--Abu-Jamal's attorneys noted that in a city that is 44 percent African-American, his jury initially had only three black members (one was removed before the start of the trial, under questionable circumstances also possibly relating to judicial bias, leaving only two). Abu-Jamal further presented evidence that his mostly white jury was the result of a pattern of racism in the city's justice system. Prosecutor McGill, who used 11 of his permitted 15 peremptory challenges (challenges to bar jurors for which no reason has to be provided), to remove black jurors otherwise qualified to sit, had a record over the course of six capital cases between 1977 and 1986, of striking 74 percent of potential black jurors while striking only 25 percent of white jurors. Furthermore, defense data show that over the same period, during which Ed Rendell was Philadelphia's district attorney, prosecutors working under his direction collectively used their peremptory challenges to eliminate black jurors 58 percent of the time, compared to only 22 percent of the time for white jurors. If the appellate court decides that this damning statistical evidence shows or suggests a pattern of racism in jury selection, it would be bound to either order a new trial, or to remand the case back to Judge Yohn for a full hearing on the jury bias issue. This would appear to offer Abu-Jamal his best chance for a new trial. If the judges vote the way each of them has voted in other similar cases, it could happen. A second possibility for a new trial would be McGill's clearly inappropriate summation to the jury, in which he essentially told them to forget about "proof beyond a reasonable doubt," and which the judge, who still posthumously holds the national record for death penalty convictions (31), allowed to go unchallenged. Many a death sentence has been overturned for just such prosecutorial misconduct, but to date, neither the Third Circuit nor the US Supreme Court has overturned a conviction on the basis of such comments. Still, it remains a possible avenue for a reversal and a new trial. A third avenue of federal appeal by Abu-Jamal argues that his initial appeal of his conviction, called a Post-Conviction Relief Act (PCRA) hearing, was constitutionally flawed because the judge--the same Albert Sabo who tried him originally--was biased in favor of the prosecution. Local newspaper editorials made that observation during the hearing. But more importantly, the PCRA hearing transcript shows that Sabo refused to grant any subpoenas to the defense to compel witness testimony, and that the judge repeatedly cut off lines of questioning of witnesses by defense attorneys when it appeared they were about to undermine the case. One witness who told of being pressured to lie at the trial, found herself arrested in the courtroom immediately following her testimony, while she was still on the witness stand. She was led off in handcuffs with the judge's blessing on a check-kiting charge, despite a pledge by her attorney to have her appear on the charge--normally a routine procedure. If the appellate panel rules in favor of this claim, Abu- Jamal would not get a new trial, but would get a reopened or a new PCRA, probably in federal instead of state court. At such a hearing, new evidence of innocence could be presented, and witnesses from the original trial and the earlier PCRA hearing could be further questioned and old testimony challenged. Abu-Jamal, while still held in solitary confinement on Pennsylvania's death row at the insistence of Philadelphia District Attorney Lynn Abraham, is at this moment not facing the death penalty. Federal District Judge Yohn ruled in 2001 that a poorly worded jury verdict form and equally poor instructions from Judge Sabo during the trial's penalty phase left jurors thinking, incorrectly, that they could consider no mitigating circumstances in deciding on his sentence unless they all agreed on it. In fact, under current law, if any one juror finds a mitigating circumstance, it has to be weighed in their collective decision, which must itself be unanimous for a death penalty. While it is unlikely that the Third Circuit judges will overturn Judge Yohn's revocation of Abu-Jamal's death sentence, which was well reasoned and based upon solid US Supreme Court precedent, the DA's office is making the effort, claiming that the precedent doesn't apply in his case. In fact, over the course of Abu-Jamal's more than two- decade-long appeals process, the courts have shown a willingness to create special exceptions that apply only to Abu-Jamal. One example of what might be called "The Mumia Rule" occurred in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. The state's top judges in 1986 overturned a death sentence in 1986 where McGill, the same prosecutor in Abu-Jamal's case, had made the same closing statement to jurors at the conclusion of a murder trial presided over by Judge Sabo, the same trial judge who presided in Abu-Jamal's case. The state's top court, declaring that the prosecutor's language had "minimize[ed] the jury's sense of responsibility for a verdict of death," ordered a new trial. Three years later in 1989, despite this precedent, the Court reversed itself, though, upholding Abu-Jamal's conviction. Eleven years later, Pennsylvania's highest court reversed track again, barring such language by prosecutors "in all future trials." Another example of this judicial "special handling" where Abu-Jamal's case is concerned, involves the right of allocution =C3=82=C2=AC the right of the convicted to make a statement without challenge before sentencing. One month before initially upholding Abu-Jamal's conviction in March 1989, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court issued a ruling stating the right of allocution is of "ancient origin" and any failure to permit a defendant to plead for mercy required reversal of sentence. Abu-Jamal's appeal claimed Judge Sabo, by allowing the prosecutor to question Abu-Jamal on the stand after the convicted defendant had made such a statement to jurors, violated his allocution right during the '82 trial. The state's high court, however -- for the first time in its history -- ruled that the "right of allocution does not exist in the penalty phase of capital murder prosecution." This flip-flopping on allocution, acceptable language for prosecutors and other legal precedents led Amnesty International to conclude in its 2000 report on Abu- Jamal's case that the state's highest court improperly invents new standards of procedure "to apply it to one case only: that of Mumia Abu-Jamal." Justice, that is to say, has not always been blind in this case. Indeed, the Abu-Jamal case has always been as much about politics as it has been about law. During his sentencing hearing, Prosecutor McGill, over the strenuous objection of the defense, read from and questioned Abu-Jamal about a 12-year-old Philadelphia Inquirer article written about him when he had been just 15, in which he had quoted Mao Tse-tung as saying "power flows from the barrel of a gun." Although Abu- Jamal made it clear in the actual article, and during questioning by the prosecutor, that he was using that line to refer to the power of the police in Philadelphia in the early 1970s, the prosecutor told jurors that the child's words had referred to killing police. Since the trial, the Fraternal Order of Police, the national police union, has openly lobbied hard for Abu- Jamal's execution, endorsing judicial candidates who favor the death penalty, while opposing those who oppose it, and holding annual demonstrations supporting his death, and even working successfully to prevent Abu-Jamal from having his commentaries from prison broadcast on Philadelphia radio stations. On the other side, a movement condemning Abu-Jamal's conviction and demanding his freedom or a new trial has spread around the globe. Such political action has certainly played a role in the decisions made by Pennsylvania's politicized judges, all of whom are elected and must periodically return to face voters. But the prevailing view among attorneys is that such political pressures play a lesser role in the federal court system, where judges are generally better qualified and are appointed for life, and particularly at the appellate level, where most judges remain until they retire or die. One indication that the appellate court may not be so vulnerable to political pressure came in 1998, in a case brought by Abu-Jamal protesting the opening of his lawyer's correspondence with him in prison. Prison authorities had opened his lawyers' mail in 1995 and, learning of his defense strategy for an upcoming PCRA hearing, passed the news along to then Gov. Tom Ridge, who rushed through a death warrant. This meant Abu- Jamal was facing an execution date only weeks from the hearing-a situation Judge Sabo repeatedly used as an excuse for rushing the proceeding. The Third Circuit ruled that opening of inmates' legal mail was illegal. The Third Circuit also ruled in Abu-Jamal's favor in a case establishing his First Amendment right to write and publish from prison. And so this case, which began one cold dark morning in December 1981, now moves to what could be the final confrontation. However the three judge panel rules, history is likely to be made this Thursday in the legal showdown between Abu-Jamal's attorney Robert R. Bryan and Assistant District Attorney Hugh Burns, and by Third Circuit Judges Scirica, Ambro and Cowen. [Dave Lindorff is the author of Killing Time: an Investigation into the Death Row Case of Mumia Abu- Jamal. His n book of CounterPunch columns titled "This Can't be Happening!" is published by Common Courage Press. Lindorff's newest book is "The Case for Impeachment",co-authored by Barbara Olshansky. He can be reached at: dlindorff@yahoo.com Linn Washington, Jr. is a columnist for the Philadelphia Tribune and is an associate professor of journalism at Temple University.] _____________________________________________ Portside aims to provide material of interest to people on the left that will help them to interpret the world and to change it. Submit via email: moderator@portside.org Submit via the Web: portside.org/submit Frequently asked questions: portside.org/faq Subscribe: portside.org/subscribe Unsubscribe: portside.org/unsubscribe Account assistance: portside.org/contact Search the archives: portside.org/archive --0-182913516-1179289859=:5534-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:59:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Paul Nelson Subject: Re: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So Falwell is on the record as saying gays will =93one day be utterly annih= ilated and=0Athere will be a celebration in heaven,=94 and some on this lis= t want to celebrate Falwell's death. Please tell me the difference between = these two factions.=0A=0APaul=0A =0APaul E. Nelson =0Awww.GlobalVoicesRadi= o.org =0Awww.SPLAB.org =0A908 I. St. N.E. #4 =0ASlaughter, WA 98002 =0A253.= 735.6328 or 888.735.6328=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Adam =0ATo: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0ASent: Tuesday, May 15,= 2007 7:30:08 PM=0ASubject: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead= =0A=0Ahttp://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10806.html=0A=0A(From C= raig Smith: Smithcraft Press)=0A=0AI have to admit, writing about Falwell= =92s death poses an awkward challenge=0Afor me. When I worked at Americans = United for Separation of Church and State=0Afor several years, I read Falwe= ll=92s materials, I listened to his speeches, I=0Awatched his interviews, a= nd got a real sense for who this man was and what=0Ahe devoted his life to.= =0A=0AIn literally every instance, I was repelled and appalled. But is it = not=0Acallous to bash a man just hours after his death?=0A=0AI have another= idea =97 I=92ll document Jerry Falwell=92s professional life and=0Alet his= record speak for itself.=0A=0AMarch 1980: Falwell tells an Anchorage rally= about a conversation with=0APresident Carter at the White House. Commentin= g on a January breakfast=0Ameeting, Falwell claimed to have asked Carter wh= y he had =93practicing=0Ahomosexuals=94 on the senior staff at the White Ho= use. According to Falwell,=0ACarter replied, =93Well, I am president of all= the American people, and I=0Abelieve I should represent everyone.=94 When = others who attended the White=0AHouse event insisted that the exchange neve= r happened, Falwell responded=0Athat his account =93was not intended to be = a verbatim report,=94 but rather an=0A=93honest portrayal=94 of Carter=92s = position.=0A=0AAugust 1980: After Southern Baptist Convention President Bai= ley Smith tells=0Aa Dallas Religious Right gathering that =93God Almighty d= oes not hear the=0Aprayer of a Jew,=94 Falwell gives a similar view. =93I d= o not believe,=94 he told=0Areporters, =93that God answers the prayer of an= y unredeemed Gentile or Jew.=94=0AAfter a meeting with an American Jewish C= ommittee rabbi, he changed course,=0Atelling an interviewer on NBC=92s =93M= eet the Press=94 that =93God hears the prayers=0Aof all persons=85. God hea= rs everything.=94=0A=0AJuly 1984: Falwell is forced to pay gay activist Jer= ry Sloan $5,000 after=0Alosing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacram= ento, Falwell denied=0Acalling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Chur= ches =93brute beasts=94 and=0A=93a vile and Satanic system=94 that will =93= one day be utterly annihilated and=0Athere will be a celebration in heaven.= =94 When Sloan insisted he had a tape,=0AFalwell promised $5,000 if he coul= d produce it. Sloan did so, Falwell=0Arefused to pay and Sloan successfully= sued. Falwell appealed, with his=0Aattorney charging that the Jewish judge= in the case was prejudiced. He lost=0Aagain and was forced to pay an addit= ional $2,875 in sanctions and court=0Afees.=0A=0AOctober 1987: The Federal = Election Commission fines Falwell for transferring=0A$6.7 million in funds = intended for his ministry to political committees.=0A=0AFebruary 1988: The = U.S. Supreme Court strikes down a $200,000 jury award to=0AFalwell for =93e= motional distress=94 he suffered because of a Hustler magazine=0Aparody. Ch= ief Justice William H. Rehnquist, usually a Falwell favorite,=0Awrote the u= nanimous opinion in Hustler v. Falwell, ruling that the First=0AAmendment p= rotects free speech.=0A=0AFebruary 1993: The Internal Revenue Service deter= mines that funds from=0AFalwell=92s Old Time Gospel Hour program were illeg= ally funneled to a=0Apolitical action committee. The IRS forced Falwell to = pay $50,000 and=0Aretroactively revoked the Old Time Gospel Hour=92s tax-ex= empt status for=0A1986-87.=0A=0AMarch 1993: Despite his promise to Jewish g= roups to stop referring to=0AAmerica as a =93Christian nation,=94 Falwell g= ives a sermon saying, =93We must=0Anever allow our children to forget that = this is a Christian nation. We must=0Atake back what is rightfully ours.=94= =0A=0A1994-1995: Falwell is criticized for using his =93Old Time Gospel Hou= r=94 to=0Ahawk a scurrilous video called =93The Clinton Chronicles=94 that = makes a number=0Aof unsubstantiated charges against President Bill Clinton = =97 among them that=0Ahe is a drug addict and that he arranged the murders = of political enemies in=0AArkansas. Despite claims he had no ties to the pr= oject, evidence surfaced=0Athat Falwell helped bankroll the venture with $2= 00,000 paid to a group=0Acalled Citizens for Honest Government (CHG). CHG= =92s Pat Matrisciana later=0Aadmitted that Falwell and he staged an infomer= cial interview promoting the=0Avideo in which a silhouetted reporter said h= is life was in danger for=0Ainvestigating Clinton. (Matrisciana himself pos= ed as the reporter.) =93That=0Awas Jerry=92s idea to do that,=94 Matriscian= a recalled. =93He thought that would=0Abe dramatic.=94 =0A=0ANovember 1997:= Falwell accepts $3.5 million from a front group representing=0Acontroversi= al Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon to ease Liberty University=92s=0Afinanc= ial woes. =0A=0AApril 1998: Confronted on national television with a contro= versial quote=0Afrom America Can Be Saved!, a published collection of his s= ermons, Falwell=0Adenies having written the book or had anything to do with= it. In the 1979=0Awork, Falwell wrote, =93I hope to live to see the day wh= en, as in the early=0Adays of our country, we won=92t have any public schoo= ls. The churches will=0Ahave taken them over again and Christians will be r= unning them. What a happy=0Aday that will be!=94 Despite Falwell=92s denial= , Sword of the Lord Publishing,=0Awhich produced the book, confirms that Fa= lwell wrote it.=0A=0AJanuary 1999: Falwell tells a pastors=92 conference in= Kingsport, Tenn., that=0Athe Antichrist prophesied in the Bible is alive t= oday and =93of course he=92ll=0Abe Jewish.=94=0A=0AFebruary 1999: Falwell b= ecomes the object of nationwide ridicule after his=0ANational Liberty Journ= al newspaper issues a =93parents alert=94 warning that=0ATinky Winky, a cha= racter on the popular PBS children=92s show =93Teletubbies,=94=0Amight be g= ay.=0A=0ASeptember 2001: Falwell blames Americans for the 9/11 terrorist at= tacks.=0A=93The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because = God will not=0Abe mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent ba= bies, we make=0AGod mad. I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortion= ists, and the=0Afeminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively t= rying to make=0Athat an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the Ame= rican Way, all of=0Athem who have tried to secularize America. I point the = finger in their face=0Aand say, =91You helped this happen.=92=94=0A=0ANovem= ber 2005: Falwell spearheads campaign to resist =93war on Christmas.=94=0A= =0AFebruary 2007: Falwell describes global warming as a conspiracy orchestr= ated=0Aby Satan, liberals, and The Weather Channel.=0A=0ASay what you will = about the man and his life, but he leaves behind a=0Acolorful background. = =0A=0A=0ANo virus found in this outgoing message.=0AChecked by AVG Free Edi= tion. =0AVersion: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/1= 5/2007=0A10:47 AM=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:00:14 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Laura McClain Subject: Re: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii I have to agree. I have no affection for Falwell, but I am deeply troubled by anyone rejoicing at another's death. Feel relieved, fine. But revel in it? It's a slippery slope, my friends. Peace. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Beckett To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:41:58 PM Subject: (no subject) Falwell's politics/public presence was noxious, but I can't bring myself to rejoice in anyone's death .I understand your emotions, CAC, just as I deeply respect your person, but...I'm troubled by your post and some of the easy responses to same. Wishing "evil doers" dead doesn't help us very much. It perpetuates some really retrograde processes. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ____________________________________________________________________________________Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 00:08:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Suzanne Burns Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: <25021.40944.qm@web83310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline LOL Believe me, I am enjoying my glass of wine too tonight. My mailbox is filled with "May the bastard burn in hell". I do NOT want to begrudge anyone their margarita on a night like this. The world feels just a bit lighter tonight, even though I know there is plenty more where that came from. He was hideous. Few things can ever be as vile as he was, not even my Aunt *mumblemumble*. Gah. Turds by the handful. It's just this vision of screaming and intoxicated munchkins brought on by the subject line.... Suzanne On 5/15/07, amy king wrote: > > I too come from that tradition, Suzanne, having grown up on the Bible Belt > myself. In fact, I received a scholarship at the ripe age of 16 in the > amount of $5,000 directly from Falwell (or his stamped on signature) to > attend Liberty University. I have family members who still proudly wear > racist slogans ("You've Got Your X, We've Got Ours" - complete with the GA > confederate flag was the most recent) and celebrate blows against their > assorted brands of evil, closely aligned with Falwell's, some that would > include me if they actually acknowledged certain aspects of my life. > > I just think it's strange that our society allows us to feel and express > only one particular emotion for someone's death, sadness, but the expression > of relief is somehow inappropriate? I mean, I'm not bouncing off the walls > under the illusion that homophobic campaigns are somehow finished, but that > one very large hateful movement has received even the slightest of blows, or > a pause, does give me some pleasure. To equate the evil, the hate mongering > that Falwell did with feeling and expressing this kind of relief over his > recent absence, or those followers' "loss", on a listserv no less, is > misleading. It's not a clear-cut hate-for-hate equation. Their hate has > serious consequences that have resulted in much measurable pain and many > deaths. I'm not finding pleasure in some sadist notion nor am I condoning > aggressive hate that results in someone's pain or death -- likewise, any > physical pain he felt doesn't delight me, but to feel some gladness that his > brand of > aggressive homophobic tactics may have taken a blow simply because Falwell > is dead certainly provides a momentary gladness, regardless of how that > implicates even my own family members. When I express that and articulate > why, I *am* taking the high road and fighting for the living. > > Amy > > Suzanne Burns wrote: I fully understand the anger > people feel toward this man. But.... > > I am also deeply uncomfortable with the "dance on his grave" energy. Its > so > feral, and it feeds right back into what he stood for. Please understand > that I am deeply conflicted. I say this as someone who comes from a > family > that has.... people like this in it, and sometimes some of us say "Oh I > can't wait to wear red at that funeral!". > > I don't want to go into details, but I know all too well that letting go > and > taking the high road is the better way. I'm not saying this for him-- but > for us. Its the better way for US. > > Glee is not pretty, and over time will carve bitchy lines in one's face. > Please continue fighting for the living. > > Suzanne > > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > -- "I will take the Ring to Mordor...though...I do not know the way." Frodo Baggins, Fellowship of the Ring ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:52:53 -0700 Reply-To: linda norton Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: linda norton Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, Mark Bingham Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: Falwell and 9/11-- Mark Bingham on flight 93 was gay. He was clearly one of the brave ones that day (in a situation where so much was unclear, and so much has been fodder for propaganda). But you will notice that mainstream media's heavily subsidized, ad-free propaganda, THE PATH TO 9/1l (sponsored & funded by the far right, aimed at fictionalizing the history of 9/11, and teamed up with Scholastic Books to perpetrate this fraud through the systematic miseducation of millions of American schoolchildren) has no place for someone like Mark Bingham. Falwell is dead but those who made and paid for that film (his spawn) are alive and well and ready to shout "Let's roll" to the next nightmare in the name of "anti-terror" and "family values." Many of us fought against the network and msm and Scholastic and consequently those new "histories" of 9/11 never made it into U. S. classrooms. Keep fighting. -----Original Message----- >From: amy king >Sent: May 15, 2007 7:26 PM >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! > >If CNN is any indication of the popular media's response, Falwell isn't exactly being celebrated, thankfully. They cite the studies of an anthropologist focused on Falwell's legacy, significantly noting where he placed the blame for Sept 11: > > >To many critics, this paradox is what makes his legacy so lamentable. "He made it comfortable for churches to get actively involved in politics," says the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. "His strategy will be continued by his would-be successors -- a focus on hot-button issues like gay marriage (rather than significant moral issues like child poverty and health care), and an eagerness to make outrageous statements to the media, in order to build a religious-political empire." >Many now remember him most for outrageous statements he made after leaving the Moral Majority -- in 1999, his house organ the National Liberty Journal warned parents that the Tinky Winky TV character was secretly gay and morally dangerous; in 2001, he blamed the September 11 terrorist attack on "pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America." > >http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/15/falwell.legacy/ > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. "It's amazing what you can see when you look." Learn more about Karl Rove's "math", and about the likelihood (800% higher, in some cases) that if you were a black or Hispanic voter in the 2004 election, or even an enlisted member of the U. S. Armed Forces, your vote was tossed in the trash. Understand more about why it was so important for Rove, Bush, and Cheney to replace an independent judiciary with robotic far-right servants of the Republican party. See why impeachment can provide a great civics lesson for the American public, and a chance to restore democracy and allow us to deal with the energy crisis the Bush administration has worsened immeasurably because of its incompetence and ignorance in Iraq. http://www.davidswanson.org/?q=node/641 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:57:50 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Barry Schwabsky Subject: Re: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead In-Reply-To: <325010.43216.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There is a big difference. Falwell actively worked to cause harm to gay people; they never did anything to harm him. In any case, it's a funny to question coming from someone who hails from Slaughter. Paul Nelson wrote: So Falwell is on the record as saying gays will “one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven,” and some on this list want to celebrate Falwell's death. Please tell me the difference between these two factions. Paul Paul E. Nelson www.GlobalVoicesRadio.org www.SPLAB.org 908 I. St. N.E. #4 Slaughter, WA 98002 253.735.6328 or 888.735.6328 ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:30:08 PM Subject: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10806.html (From Craig Smith: Smithcraft Press) I have to admit, writing about Falwell’s death poses an awkward challenge for me. When I worked at Americans United for Separation of Church and State for several years, I read Falwell’s materials, I listened to his speeches, I watched his interviews, and got a real sense for who this man was and what he devoted his life to. In literally every instance, I was repelled and appalled. But is it not callous to bash a man just hours after his death? I have another idea — I’ll document Jerry Falwell’s professional life and let his record speak for itself. March 1980: Falwell tells an Anchorage rally about a conversation with President Carter at the White House. Commenting on a January breakfast meeting, Falwell claimed to have asked Carter why he had “practicing homosexuals” on the senior staff at the White House. According to Falwell, Carter replied, “Well, I am president of all the American people, and I believe I should represent everyone.” When others who attended the White House event insisted that the exchange never happened, Falwell responded that his account “was not intended to be a verbatim report,” but rather an “honest portrayal” of Carter’s position. August 1980: After Southern Baptist Convention President Bailey Smith tells a Dallas Religious Right gathering that “God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew,” Falwell gives a similar view. “I do not believe,” he told reporters, “that God answers the prayer of any unredeemed Gentile or Jew.” After a meeting with an American Jewish Committee rabbi, he changed course, telling an interviewer on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that “God hears the prayers of all persons…. God hears everything.” July 1984: Falwell is forced to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000 after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, Falwell denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches “brute beasts” and “a vile and Satanic system” that will “one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven.” When Sloan insisted he had a tape, Falwell promised $5,000 if he could produce it. Sloan did so, Falwell refused to pay and Sloan successfully sued. Falwell appealed, with his attorney charging that the Jewish judge in the case was prejudiced. He lost again and was forced to pay an additional $2,875 in sanctions and court fees. October 1987: The Federal Election Commission fines Falwell for transferring $6.7 million in funds intended for his ministry to political committees. February 1988: The U.S. Supreme Court strikes down a $200,000 jury award to Falwell for “emotional distress” he suffered because of a Hustler magazine parody. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, usually a Falwell favorite, wrote the unanimous opinion in Hustler v. Falwell, ruling that the First Amendment protects free speech. February 1993: The Internal Revenue Service determines that funds from Falwell’s Old Time Gospel Hour program were illegally funneled to a political action committee. The IRS forced Falwell to pay $50,000 and retroactively revoked the Old Time Gospel Hour’s tax-exempt status for 1986-87. March 1993: Despite his promise to Jewish groups to stop referring to America as a “Christian nation,” Falwell gives a sermon saying, “We must never allow our children to forget that this is a Christian nation. We must take back what is rightfully ours.” 1994-1995: Falwell is criticized for using his “Old Time Gospel Hour” to hawk a scurrilous video called “The Clinton Chronicles” that makes a number of unsubstantiated charges against President Bill Clinton — among them that he is a drug addict and that he arranged the murders of political enemies in Arkansas. Despite claims he had no ties to the project, evidence surfaced that Falwell helped bankroll the venture with $200,000 paid to a group called Citizens for Honest Government (CHG). CHG’s Pat Matrisciana later admitted that Falwell and he staged an infomercial interview promoting the video in which a silhouetted reporter said his life was in danger for investigating Clinton. (Matrisciana himself posed as the reporter.) “That was Jerry’s idea to do that,” Matrisciana recalled. “He thought that would be dramatic.” November 1997: Falwell accepts $3.5 million from a front group representing controversial Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon to ease Liberty University’s financial woes. April 1998: Confronted on national television with a controversial quote from America Can Be Saved!, a published collection of his sermons, Falwell denies having written the book or had anything to do with it. In the 1979 work, Falwell wrote, “I hope to live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won’t have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!” Despite Falwell’s denial, Sword of the Lord Publishing, which produced the book, confirms that Falwell wrote it. January 1999: Falwell tells a pastors’ conference in Kingsport, Tenn., that the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible is alive today and “of course he’ll be Jewish.” February 1999: Falwell becomes the object of nationwide ridicule after his National Liberty Journal newspaper issues a “parents alert” warning that Tinky Winky, a character on the popular PBS children’s show “Teletubbies,” might be gay. September 2001: Falwell blames Americans for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. “The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’” November 2005: Falwell spearheads campaign to resist “war on Christmas.” February 2007: Falwell describes global warming as a conspiracy orchestrated by Satan, liberals, and The Weather Channel. Say what you will about the man and his life, but he leaves behind a colorful background. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 05:33:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Re: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead In-Reply-To: <325010.43216.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paul, The most immediate difference I see is that his statement was motivational hate speech aimed at the living. It was a prescription for his followers to base their actions on when they encounter gays as well as a foundational belief to teach their children. The "celebrating" I see on this list is postmortem and isn't a celebration so much as a collective sigh of "good riddance" in the memory of someone who perpetuated an aggressive hate mentality and caused the homosexuality community, as well as people from other religious faiths, much real life grief and pain. The articulation of that is important. When someone like Conrad uses his emailed "celebration" as a platform to share the real life effects of Falwell's hate speech that he experienced, are we actually overlooking *that point* and focusing on the idea that Conrad is somehow encouraging death? The connection being made here is that while Falwell's hate speech truly did have painful consequences -- and Conrad's is just one example -- it's being implied here that by articulating a relief that this guy no longer exists -- and most importantly, the accountable Why's of this sentiment -- that by stating how Falwell caused others pain upon his death is the same kind of hate that Falwell encouraged against the living --- That equation assumes that those who express relief over Falwell's death will now wish death upon people who cause us pain -- in turn, we are being admonished to "not wish death on anyone" -- that is a very presumptuous leap about our morals that negates the critiques Falwell's life truly deserves while simultaneously putting the person who dares to articulate the harm experienced on the lower moral ground for somehow "encouraging death". I'm not into that equation. It's too tidy and p.c. and reminds me of the generic aphorisms my pastor would provide in the face of a complicated situation. Critiques on the heels of Falwell's death are learning tools, and in my opinion, Adam's list and Conrad's account have been the most productive in shedding light on why it is okay not to feel and speak with the usual reverence or respect in the face of each person's death as well as understanding the legacy his followers will be acting upon. Amy Paul Nelson wrote: So Falwell is on the record as saying gays will �one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven,� and some on this list want to celebrate Falwell's death. Please tell me the difference between these two factions. Paul Paul E. Nelson www.GlobalVoicesRadio.org www.SPLAB.org 908 I. St. N.E. #4 Slaughter, WA 98002 253.735.6328 or 888.735.6328 ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:30:08 PM Subject: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10806.html (From Craig Smith: Smithcraft Press) I have to admit, writing about Falwell�s death poses an awkward challenge for me. When I worked at Americans United for Separation of Church and State for several years, I read Falwell�s materials, I listened to his speeches, I watched his interviews, and got a real sense for who this man was and what he devoted his life to. In literally every instance, I was repelled and appalled. But is it not callous to bash a man just hours after his death? I have another idea � I�ll document Jerry Falwell�s professional life and let his record speak for itself. March 1980: Falwell tells an Anchorage rally about a conversation with President Carter at the White House. Commenting on a January breakfast meeting, Falwell claimed to have asked Carter why he had �practicing homosexuals� on the senior staff at the White House. According to Falwell, Carter replied, �Well, I am president of all the American people, and I believe I should represent everyone.� When others who attended the White House event insisted that the exchange never happened, Falwell responded that his account �was not intended to be a verbatim report,� but rather an �honest portrayal� of Carter�s position. August 1980: After Southern Baptist Convention President Bailey Smith tells a Dallas Religious Right gathering that �God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew,� Falwell gives a similar view. �I do not believe,� he told reporters, �that God answers the prayer of any unredeemed Gentile or Jew.� After a meeting with an American Jewish Committee rabbi, he changed course, telling an interviewer on NBC�s �Meet the Press� that �God hears the prayers of all persons�. God hears everything.� July 1984: Falwell is forced to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000 after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, Falwell denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches �brute beasts� and �a vile and Satanic system� that will �one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven.� When Sloan insisted he had a tape, Falwell promised $5,000 if he could produce it. Sloan did so, Falwell refused to pay and Sloan successfully sued. Falwell appealed, with his attorney charging that the Jewish judge in the case was prejudiced. He lost again and was forced to pay an additional $2,875 in sanctions and court fees. October 1987: The Federal Election Commission fines Falwell for transferring $6.7 million in funds intended for his ministry to political committees. February 1988: The U.S. Supreme Court strikes down a $200,000 jury award to Falwell for �emotional distress� he suffered because of a Hustler magazine parody. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, usually a Falwell favorite, wrote the unanimous opinion in Hustler v. Falwell, ruling that the First Amendment protects free speech. February 1993: The Internal Revenue Service determines that funds from Falwell�s Old Time Gospel Hour program were illegally funneled to a political action committee. The IRS forced Falwell to pay $50,000 and retroactively revoked the Old Time Gospel Hour�s tax-exempt status for 1986-87. March 1993: Despite his promise to Jewish groups to stop referring to America as a �Christian nation,� Falwell gives a sermon saying, �We must never allow our children to forget that this is a Christian nation. We must take back what is rightfully ours.� 1994-1995: Falwell is criticized for using his �Old Time Gospel Hour� to hawk a scurrilous video called �The Clinton Chronicles� that makes a number of unsubstantiated charges against President Bill Clinton � among them that he is a drug addict and that he arranged the murders of political enemies in Arkansas. Despite claims he had no ties to the project, evidence surfaced that Falwell helped bankroll the venture with $200,000 paid to a group called Citizens for Honest Government (CHG). CHG�s Pat Matrisciana later admitted that Falwell and he staged an infomercial interview promoting the video in which a silhouetted reporter said his life was in danger for investigating Clinton. (Matrisciana himself posed as the reporter.) �That was Jerry�s idea to do that,� Matrisciana recalled. �He thought that would be dramatic.� November 1997: Falwell accepts $3.5 million from a front group representing controversial Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon to ease Liberty University�s financial woes. April 1998: Confronted on national television with a controversial quote from America Can Be Saved!, a published collection of his sermons, Falwell denies having written the book or had anything to do with it. In the 1979 work, Falwell wrote, �I hope to live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won�t have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!� Despite Falwell�s denial, Sword of the Lord Publishing, which produced the book, confirms that Falwell wrote it. January 1999: Falwell tells a pastors� conference in Kingsport, Tenn., that the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible is alive today and �of course he�ll be Jewish.� February 1999: Falwell becomes the object of nationwide ridicule after his National Liberty Journal newspaper issues a �parents alert� warning that Tinky Winky, a character on the popular PBS children�s show �Teletubbies,� might be gay. September 2001: Falwell blames Americans for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. �The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, �You helped this happen.�� November 2005: Falwell spearheads campaign to resist �war on Christmas.� February 2007: Falwell describes global warming as a conspiracy orchestrated by Satan, liberals, and The Weather Channel. Say what you will about the man and his life, but he leaves behind a colorful background. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 07:40:20 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A couple of people back channeled me to inform me that not all born-again christians are Jerry Falwell. And frankly I'm not interested in having that conversation on the back channel. It's just as important to talk about those born-again christians who are not followers of Jerry Falwell and the like. Who comes to mind right away as being someone with the same media power as Falwell would be Tammy Faye (formerly Tammy Faye Baker of the PTL Club (The Praise the Lord Club)). If you think you have Tammy Faye figured out without really knowing who she is, and think that she's just another small-minded Jesus freak, you're wrong. The documentary THE EYES OF TAMMY FAYE is one of the best documentaries about the last three decades of evangelical christianity in America. Jerry Falwell of course comes up quite a bit. Tammy Faye was his adversary not only because she was a strong outspoken woman, but because she actually walked her talk. Her ministry was a threat to the Moral Majority because the PTL practiced tolerance, and fully embraced compassion. Tammy Faye was the first person in history to interview a gay man dying of AIDS on the television. Jerry Falwell realized her enormous power and influence, and set out to destroy her and her husband's ministry. And Falwell won his war against Tammy Faye, and consumed her congregation, her money, her ministry, and the power behind it. And in turn handed the country over to Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr. twice. And we're living with that legacy today. If you've never seen the documentary THE EYES OF TAMMY FAYE, please think about doing so today. It might open your mind in ways you hadn't expected. It is narrated by Tammy Faye's good friend (THE ONE AND ONLY) RuPaul. And before anyone else back channels to ask, NO, I'm not a christian, or buddhist, or jewish, or any other religion. My respect and admiration for Tammy Faye has nothing to do with a shared belief system, it has to do with giving respect and admiration where it is due. She risked her ENTIRE life for defending queers and other outsiders, and she's amazing! There's no doubt that without Tammy Faye out there doing battle with Falwell and Pat Robertson and Jimmy Swaggert on their very own turf, that things would be much MUCH worse than they are! She is a brave human being, and there's no one like her! For the Love of Tammy Faye, and to the death of her sworn enemy Jerry Falwell, CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:04:36 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Let me add to this conversation 2 subjects which converge: Festival, the Body. My good friend Carol Mirakove has this truly brilliant set of ideas swirling around the idea of protest involving Festival. In short she hits on the importance of MAKING the protest a celebration, a place of meeting out of joy, even though there's so much fear wrapped around the subjects being protested. For very good reasons (as you can imagine once your mind starts thinking about this) she calls for us to do Festival when gathering to protest, such as making the space welcome to all and everyone, making the space conducive to clear and focused concentration on the protest target, etc., and so on. I'm simplifying here, but Carol is working on this information herself at the moment. And she's on to something BIG in my opinion! About the Body, it's important to celebrate the death of Jerry Falwell (in my opinion, and I have not discussed with Carol how she feels about the death of Jerry Falwell, so don't confuse what I'm about to say with her ideas of Festival) because Falwell, Pat Robertson, and their good friends Karl Rove, the Bushes, Reagan, etc. to evil, have made their careers off a very old table of ideas for control. IF YOU CAN CONVINCE A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY LIVE THEIR LIVES BEING AFRAID OF THEIR BODIES, you have them. Those people now belong to you. Our bodies are CENTRAL, they are the axis each of us has to spin on. Our bodies are our only REAL thing to keep ahold of on the planet. And if these men can (and they have, and have done so very successfully) convince people to BE AFRAID of being queer (which brings hundreds of layers to this conversation about both the body, and control of the body) and AFRAID for "reckless women" who would want to "murder" the unborn, then, frankly, WOW, you really have them. Election after election in this country (and I'm NOT just talking about presidential, I'm talking local, I'm talking even school board kind of local) has been built and WON on the basis of FEAR and CONTROL of the Body. Celebration for me of Falwell's death is essential because my body has been at stake. The bodies of those I Love have been at stake. The bodies of you and your own Loved ones have been at stake. To celebrate the death Falwell's body is to TAKE BACK the Body our own way, to live in our own truth. Since before I was born Jerry Falwell has been working this campaign of FEAR OF THE BODY. It really is amazing any of us ever make up our own minds about our bodies. To celebrate the life of the Body is to not live in fear. To celebrate the Body is the beginning of taking away the power these men have taken from us, CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 07:42:55 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Thomas savage Subject: Re: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead In-Reply-To: <325010.43216.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Falwell's nonsense about gays and other groups is the worse example of misplaced imagination I've seen in a long time. At first, I thought he was advocating genocide for gays. But, apparently, he expected this to happen in some kind of vengeful Heaven no true Christian would recognize as anything but a sick fantasy. That people like Falwell were and are listened to by many gullible bigots and simple-minded believers in a non-existent Christian God makes it only human when we, who live quite well intellectually and emotionally outside belief in the Judeo-Christian God, feel a moment of enjoyment when such a bad influence on the politics and religious thought in this country can add nothing more to his miserable legacy. Paul Nelson wrote: So Falwell is on the record as saying gays will “one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven,” and some on this list want to celebrate Falwell's death. Please tell me the difference between these two factions. Paul Paul E. Nelson www.GlobalVoicesRadio.org www.SPLAB.org 908 I. St. N.E. #4 Slaughter, WA 98002 253.735.6328 or 888.735.6328 ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:30:08 PM Subject: Let's not malign the Witches: Falwell is dead http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10806.html (From Craig Smith: Smithcraft Press) I have to admit, writing about Falwell’s death poses an awkward challenge for me. When I worked at Americans United for Separation of Church and State for several years, I read Falwell’s materials, I listened to his speeches, I watched his interviews, and got a real sense for who this man was and what he devoted his life to. In literally every instance, I was repelled and appalled. But is it not callous to bash a man just hours after his death? I have another idea — I’ll document Jerry Falwell’s professional life and let his record speak for itself. March 1980: Falwell tells an Anchorage rally about a conversation with President Carter at the White House. Commenting on a January breakfast meeting, Falwell claimed to have asked Carter why he had “practicing homosexuals” on the senior staff at the White House. According to Falwell, Carter replied, “Well, I am president of all the American people, and I believe I should represent everyone.” When others who attended the White House event insisted that the exchange never happened, Falwell responded that his account “was not intended to be a verbatim report,” but rather an “honest portrayal” of Carter’s position. August 1980: After Southern Baptist Convention President Bailey Smith tells a Dallas Religious Right gathering that “God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew,” Falwell gives a similar view. “I do not believe,” he told reporters, “that God answers the prayer of any unredeemed Gentile or Jew.” After a meeting with an American Jewish Committee rabbi, he changed course, telling an interviewer on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that “God hears the prayers of all persons…. God hears everything.” July 1984: Falwell is forced to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000 after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, Falwell denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches “brute beasts” and “a vile and Satanic system” that will “one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven.” When Sloan insisted he had a tape, Falwell promised $5,000 if he could produce it. Sloan did so, Falwell refused to pay and Sloan successfully sued. Falwell appealed, with his attorney charging that the Jewish judge in the case was prejudiced. He lost again and was forced to pay an additional $2,875 in sanctions and court fees. October 1987: The Federal Election Commission fines Falwell for transferring $6.7 million in funds intended for his ministry to political committees. February 1988: The U.S. Supreme Court strikes down a $200,000 jury award to Falwell for “emotional distress” he suffered because of a Hustler magazine parody. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, usually a Falwell favorite, wrote the unanimous opinion in Hustler v. Falwell, ruling that the First Amendment protects free speech. February 1993: The Internal Revenue Service determines that funds from Falwell’s Old Time Gospel Hour program were illegally funneled to a political action committee. The IRS forced Falwell to pay $50,000 and retroactively revoked the Old Time Gospel Hour’s tax-exempt status for 1986-87. March 1993: Despite his promise to Jewish groups to stop referring to America as a “Christian nation,” Falwell gives a sermon saying, “We must never allow our children to forget that this is a Christian nation. We must take back what is rightfully ours.” 1994-1995: Falwell is criticized for using his “Old Time Gospel Hour” to hawk a scurrilous video called “The Clinton Chronicles” that makes a number of unsubstantiated charges against President Bill Clinton — among them that he is a drug addict and that he arranged the murders of political enemies in Arkansas. Despite claims he had no ties to the project, evidence surfaced that Falwell helped bankroll the venture with $200,000 paid to a group called Citizens for Honest Government (CHG). CHG’s Pat Matrisciana later admitted that Falwell and he staged an infomercial interview promoting the video in which a silhouetted reporter said his life was in danger for investigating Clinton. (Matrisciana himself posed as the reporter.) “That was Jerry’s idea to do that,” Matrisciana recalled. “He thought that would be dramatic.” November 1997: Falwell accepts $3.5 million from a front group representing controversial Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon to ease Liberty University’s financial woes. April 1998: Confronted on national television with a controversial quote from America Can Be Saved!, a published collection of his sermons, Falwell denies having written the book or had anything to do with it. In the 1979 work, Falwell wrote, “I hope to live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won’t have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!” Despite Falwell’s denial, Sword of the Lord Publishing, which produced the book, confirms that Falwell wrote it. January 1999: Falwell tells a pastors’ conference in Kingsport, Tenn., that the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible is alive today and “of course he’ll be Jewish.” February 1999: Falwell becomes the object of nationwide ridicule after his National Liberty Journal newspaper issues a “parents alert” warning that Tinky Winky, a character on the popular PBS children’s show “Teletubbies,” might be gay. September 2001: Falwell blames Americans for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. “The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’” November 2005: Falwell spearheads campaign to resist “war on Christmas.” February 2007: Falwell describes global warming as a conspiracy orchestrated by Satan, liberals, and The Weather Channel. Say what you will about the man and his life, but he leaves behind a colorful background. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:29:16 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: Re: Falwell Comments: To: Laura McClain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Those of us with roots in the DC/Northern Virginia region and long memories recall Falwell's earlier period of political activism, during which he campaigned furiously to maintain segregation -- and his own Thomas Road Baptist church was indeed closed to African American Baptists -- this was just one of the reasons my own Baptist parents joined a church in D.C. instead of Arlington, where they had bought a home. In later years, Falwell pronounced himself a defender of Martin Luther King's true vision, confessed that his earlier citation of scripture in defense of racial inequality had been wrong, and railed against affirmative action -- how much had he really changed? If nothing else, finding yourself making a public denunciation of your own earlier positions should be a humbling experience -- You'd think it might teach you to be a bit less, well, fundamentalist -- Jerry Falwell, sorry to say, had no such humility -- He has much to answer for -- If he is in fact, as his faith told him, with his creator this morning, he's got a lot of explaining to do -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are enslaved by what makes us free -- intolerable paradox at the heart of speech. --Robert Kelly Sailing the blogosphere at: http://heatstrings.blogspot.com/ Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:55:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Baldwin Subject: Leonardo Electronic Almanac - CFP: Dispersive Anatomies Special (final call!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline **REPOST: SUBMISSION DEADLINE 5/31 (see below)** **Apologies for cross-posting. 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Something over 20 years ago, when I was at VCCA, a few miles from Lynchburg, I attended Liberty Baptist Church for one of his televised sermons. Aside from huckstering for pennies from the impoverished for his bible concordance he spent the entire time touting his power: how many churches in all, how many new that year, how many countries, and what a huge gain there had been since the humble origins of the congregation. Not one word about religion as normally understood--it was closer to a report by a corporate CEO. The message of which seemed to be, see, you humble people, you're a part of all this power, a stockholder. At the end of the sermon he was surprised by his assistant, who announced that it was Falwell's 50th birthday and presented him with a present from the faithful: the numbers 50, two feet tall, spelled out in kruger-rands. When the assistant tried to take the present back in order in order to rest it someplace (a kruger-rand weighs a full ounce, and there were a lot of them), Falwell grasped it to his chest, smiling, and said, "you're not taking this away," doing what was supposed to be a comic turn, and the audience, who appeared none too prosperous, laughed uproariously. He had just been telling them that he knew the few bucks a week for his concordance would be a sacrifice for many of them, "but think what your soul's salvation is worth." I don't care if he was good to children and puppies, he was a monster of a familiar sort. How does one innoculate the powerless against this sort of thing when their lives have so few satisfactions except the vicarious participation in celebrity and power? Mark At 10:29 AM 5/16/2007, you wrote: >Those of us with roots in the DC/Northern Virginia region and long memories >recall Falwell's earlier period of political activism, during which he >campaigned furiously to maintain segregation -- and his own Thomas >Road Baptist >church was indeed closed to African American Baptists -- this was just one of >the reasons my own Baptist parents joined a church in D.C. instead of >Arlington, where they had bought a home. > >In later years, Falwell pronounced himself a defender of Martin Luther King's >true vision, confessed that his earlier citation of scripture in defense of >racial inequality had been wrong, and railed against affirmative action -- how >much had he really changed? > >If nothing else, finding yourself making a public denunciation of your own >earlier positions should be a humbling experience -- You'd think it >might teach >you to be a bit less, well, fundamentalist -- Jerry Falwell, sorry to say, had >no such humility -- He has much to answer for -- If he is in fact, >as his faith >told him, with his creator this morning, he's got a lot of explaining to do -- ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > We are enslaved by > what makes us free -- intolerable > paradox at the heart of speech. > --Robert Kelly > >Sailing the blogosphere at: http://heatstrings.blogspot.com/ > >Aldon L. Nielsen >Kelly Professor of American Literature >The Pennsylvania State University >116 Burrowes >University Park, PA 16802-6200 > >(814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:53:13 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: SCOTT HOWARD Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <755837.701.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I also agree. And I'm also recalling the recent reminder from the listserv facilitators about the governing ethics for this list. Onward. //////////////// On Tue, 15 May 2007, Laura McClain wrote: > I have to agree. I have no affection for Falwell, but I am deeply troubled by anyone rejoicing at another's death. Feel relieved, fine. But revel in it? It's a slippery slope, my friends. > > Peace. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Tom Beckett > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:41:58 PM > Subject: (no subject) > > Falwell's politics/public presence was noxious, but I can't bring myself to > rejoice in anyone's death .I understand your emotions, CAC, just as I deeply > respect your person, but...I'm troubled by your post and some of the easy > responses to same. Wishing "evil doers" dead doesn't help us very much. It > perpetuates some really retrograde processes. > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:38:30 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Falwell In-Reply-To: <1179325755l.2486442l.0l@psu.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit It was refreshing last night to hear Christopher Hitchens (who I usually cannot deal with, pro-Iraq invasion, etc.) come out so strongly against Falwell's pro-Israel/Christian link. Defining that odd coalition of the Christian right with Israel's Likkud (sp?) as the primary reason for the end of the Peace Process in the Mideast. His assumption is that the Bush Christian fundamentalist base (Falwell et al) is key to Bush's 5 year refusal to insist on real negotiations and a resolution to the conflict. The preference being for an enflamed Rapture and Christian ascent created by endless war, etc. I understand Jews are left behind in this final 'roll out.' Condi Rice apparently is trying to put another face on the situation. I am afraid she is already a snowball in her own Administration's commitment to sustaining some sort of hell on earth of which she and her colleagues have done such a splendid job! Stephen V http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ > Those of us with roots in the DC/Northern Virginia region and long memories > recall Falwell's earlier period of political activism, during which he > campaigned furiously to maintain segregation -- and his own Thomas Road > Baptist > church was indeed closed to African American Baptists -- this was just one of > the reasons my own Baptist parents joined a church in D.C. instead of > Arlington, where they had bought a home. > > In later years, Falwell pronounced himself a defender of Martin Luther King's > true vision, confessed that his earlier citation of scripture in defense of > racial inequality had been wrong, and railed against affirmative action -- how > much had he really changed? > > If nothing else, finding yourself making a public denunciation of your own > earlier positions should be a humbling experience -- You'd think it might > teach > you to be a bit less, well, fundamentalist -- Jerry Falwell, sorry to say, had > no such humility -- He has much to answer for -- If he is in fact, as his > faith > told him, with his creator this morning, he's got a lot of explaining to do -- > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > We are enslaved by > what makes us free -- intolerable > paradox at the heart of speech. > --Robert Kelly > > Sailing the blogosphere at: http://heatstrings.blogspot.com/ > > Aldon L. Nielsen > Kelly Professor of American Literature > The Pennsylvania State University > 116 Burrowes > University Park, PA 16802-6200 > > (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 11:58:15 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: Happy 95th Birthday Studs Terkel/Necro-Poetics & Falwell-- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When first receiving this list, an immediately striking feature is the= frequent obituaries of poets, primarily, as well as such Poetics-related f= igures as El Diablo Falwell. (Often imagine Dr Bernstein in his down time = working for fun on updating his "morgue" files--keeping the obits as buffe= d & au courant as possible--). The obituaries often are accompanied ("= followed" implies too long a gap in response--in this internet reality--) b= y a sudden outpouring of discourse, and the dusting off of unfinished homag= es--snatches of memoirs--rare translations--old fotos--interconnections wit= h such and such and so and so--perhaps an already waiting EPC page--a speci= al journal issue--or several-- a conference--or simply a memorial reading .= . . and the start of an archive on line--or somewhere in physical space--a= nalyses of individuals poems or books--the situating and contextualizing of= a career . . . a person seldom thought of or mentioned in life overnight i= n death has become a "going concern"-- "a sadly neglected figure"--(the fau= lt of the Establishment etc--)--"an example of triumphant endurance"--all s= orts of stock roles await the pliantly dead actor-poet/poetics-figure--ever= ything from noble victim to inspiriational heroine--to the monsters villifi= ed for their evil doings in categories of various sorts-- After all, i= f it is a good time to kick a person when they are down--how much better to= do so when they are DEAD!!! And if a person was rather ignored in th= eir lifetime--what better time to build them up than when dead--and one may= receive the credit for handling the public relatios and the design of the = monument, the construction of the pyramids--the lighting of the Eternal Fla= me--the preservation of the scrolls . . . Just yesterday for examp= le--al the discussion over the death of Rev Falwell--had within in it a sma= ller thread concerning the search for the SF Chronicle front page obit of R= obert Duncan-- Thanks to Linda Russo for what she wrote regarding = the books for the schools--it was great to read of something powerful and e= ffective like this being done--- I had been talking with some frien= ds about friends of ours that just recently died, in the last two and a hal= f to three weeks---(a murder, a suicide, an overdose and one person in thei= r sleep due to complications caused by addictions--the murderer of the murd= ered man is a friend of ours, too--to make matters worse--)--what might we = each be doing to remember our friends by--in living-- In today's N= Y Times after six years it is finally dawning on the US govt --and only bec= uase the Taliban are making the most money from it now--that the drug traff= icing in Afghanistan is out of control--gee--right under their noses and th= ey just didn't see it l these years--that traffic alot of it comes straight= to the streets of the good old USA--kil the Afgans there and kill the unwa= nted ones here-- Jerry Falwell spoke of genocide. Dershowtiz famous l= awyer, Profesor at Harvard has called for genocide of the Palestinians. Th= e ground one walks on in the US is ground gained by genocide. Here in Milw= aukee is the Black Holocaust Museum. The health care system is in many way= s becoming a program of eugenics. CEOS rob billions, destory the enviromen= t,, pollute the airs and waters--and get bonuses, tax cuts and most likely = estate tax changes, too. More and more poverty stricken people, more and m= ore addicts, prisoners, badly educated ill trained workers barely able to f= ind a minum wage job, the hatred and persecution of "illegal immigrants" of= American Muslims, of Arab-Americans and Arab residents, students--the isol= ationism of a nation--police brutality--the Injustice System--continued imp= risonment of Leonard Peltier--infra-structures falling apart--New Orleans--= One could go on and on and on-- So Jerry Falwell is dead and= there will be some parties and jubilation . . . plenty of people wil proba= bly celebrate when say George Steinbrenner dies--or someone's really rotten= uncle or evil step parent--or the really mean and harassing neighbor the s= treet-- Conrad--I can't believe you never heard of festivals and pro= tests going together--!!--my God--they have since the dawn of time-- = =20 _________________________________________________________________ Change is good. See what=92s different about Windows Live Hotmail.=20 http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=3Den-us&oc= id=3DRMT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:02:54 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: charles alexander Subject: film studies Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have been asked to teach a film class next year. I've often incorporated film into lit and writing classes I have taught, but I've never taught a specific film class before. I would love to receive suggestions about books any of you use in such classes, including single-author works and collections of film criticism and theory. The course will be a general introduction to film studies, and viewings will include experimental film (Stan Brakhage, Maya Deren, etc.), early film (Eisenstein, Chaplin, Keaton, etc.), and representative works from various countries and genres of film. I probably don't need to assign a book for students at all, but I'm thinking about it. Please send suggestions to me at , unless people think this is an appropriate topic for this list-serve. Charles ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 00:50:29 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christophe Casamassima Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 ...and realize your friends still love you no matter what... but with that = huge gaping hole of a vacuum now to be filled, I think this is the time to = really make it count... Christophe Casamassima > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzanne Burns" > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! > Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:16:07 -0400 >=20 >=20 > I am no fan of Falwell, but dude.... >=20 > I hate to break it to you but just because he is dead, does not mean that > what he believed in and represented has also died. >=20 > One can wish of course, but really death doesn't change these things at > all. Its just death. There is nothing to celebrate. You are focused > entirely on the wrong thing. You are still yourself, and the world is st= ill > the world, and there are, alas, plenty of Falwells out there who will > cherish his memory no matter how insane that sounds to us. >=20 > Letting go of someone you can't stand is not that much different from > letting go of someone you love. Among otehr things, you have to let go of > the illusion that their death will effect a profound change in the world = or > in your life or result in hundreds of dnacing munchkins. It won't. Sorr= y. > Falwell was just a person. There is still plenty of work to do. >=20 >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Suzanne > =3D Irritable Bowel Syndrome Ask A Health Question & Get Answers About Digestive Conditions & Meds. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=3D4275f8994aa8add782c01= efd870d9f66 --=20 Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:58:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: charles alexander Subject: Gil Ott correspondence Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Friends, For a projected volume of Selected Works by Gil Ott, my co-editor Eli Goldblatt and I are looking for selections of correspondence written by Gil to writers, artists, friends, etc., which are not among the archive of Ott papers. If you possess, or know about, correspondence you believe would be valuable to our efforts, please let us know, and, if possible, send copies (hard copy or digital) to me at Chax Press: . Also, please feel free to pass this notice on to other individuals and list-serves. Thank you, Charles Alexander Chax Press 101 W. Sixth St. Tucson, AZ 85701-1000 520-620-1626 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 11:24:41 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Skip Fox Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, RUB YOUR EYES, GET OUTTA BED! In-Reply-To: <173586.14633.qm@web86008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Their names are Legion. The death of one whose name we knew won't prove much of an impediment. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 11:43:47 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: patrick dunagan Subject: Duncan's obit for Paul Nelson and any others MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline SF CHRONICLE Thursday, February 4th, 1988 pgs A1, A4 "Renowned Poet Robert Duncan Dies in S.F." by Kevin Leary San Francisco poet Robert Duncan, a commanding figure in Bay Area literary circles and a major influence in American poetry for many years, died at his home yesterday of congestive heart failure, He was 69. Considered one of the great lyric poets of his generation, Duncan was the author of 14 books of poetry and a well-received collection of notes, talks and essays on poetics entitled "Fictive Certainties." "I make poetry as other men make war or make states or revolutions," he wrote once, describing his radical, experimental, and sometimes erotic free verse. In 1985, Duncan was presented the first National Poetry Award. The year before, he had received the Bay Area Book Reviewers Association's Fred Cody Award for Lifetime achievement. His 1984 work, "Ground Work: Before the War, " was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in 1985 and was nominated for a National Book Critics Circle Award. "He wrote very difficult but very beautiful poetry, " said Peter Glassgold, Duncan's editor at the New York publishing house of New Directions. "He very much wrote out of the American tradition." San Francisco poet Michael Palmer described Duncan as a "commanding figure of the San Francisco Renaissance," a movement among local poets in the 1940s and 1950s who attempted to restore the visionary character of high romantic poetry to the contemporary scene. In a 1985 review of "Ground Work: Before the War," Berkeley novelist and poet Ron Loewinsohn called Duncan "a revolutionary poet who-- far from attempting to overthrow the past-- works to rescue a lost continuity with it, with all the forces of the past (its literature, its history, its beliefs) that might restore some vigor and harmony to a present that's increasingly spiritless and oppressive." "He was a model of a person who dedicated his life to art, which was his vocation in the very highest meaning of the word," said Loewinsohn, a professor of English at the University of California at Berkeley. Loewinsohn remembered Duncan as a courageous artist who stood up for his beliefs--- active in Berkeley's 1964 Free Speech Movement, opposed to the war in Vietnam and outspokenly gay at a time when a person could be jailed for homosexualaity in some states. Duncan's life was dramatic and difficult from the day he was born, on Jan. 7, 1919. His mother died as the result of a difficult birth. "She died when I was born," he wrote, "because my head was too big, tearing my way through he agony to life." He was given up for adoption by his father. He was adopted by a Bay Area couple, theosophists whose beliefs rubbed off on the child and later appeared in his poetry. "The theosophist tradition interpreted the world as a text, and to read one's life was to read a prophetic book," said Michael Davidson, a professor of American literature at the University of California at San Diego, who has written extensively about Duncan. "Inherent in Duncan's poetics was a powerful emphasis on myth and story," Davidson said yesterday in a telephone interview. Duncan studied at the University of California at Berkeley for two years in the late 1930s before he gave up academia in favor of the more glamorous and intriguing New York literary circles of Henry Miller and Anais Nin. That artistic association was followed by a riotous period of sexual debauchery, so described by author Ekbert Faas in his biography "Young Robert Duncan: Portrait of the Poet as a Homosexual in Society." It was a desperate and dangerous time in his life. He attempted suicide twice and was once almost killed by a man he had picked up. He gave up the wild life in 1943 and was briefly married. But he soon learned that heterosexuality was not for him; the marriage failed within a few months. He returned to Berkeley in the late 1940s, attending university classes on an informal basis, studying medieval art and Renaissance history, the influence of which showed throughout his later writings. In the early 1950s, Duncan journeyed to Mallorca, where he lived for about three years. After returning to the United States, he taught briefly at Black Mountain College in North Carolina. There he was associated with a group of experimental writers who have come to be known as the Black Mountain poets: they derived their poetics from Ezra pound and William Carlos Williams. Duncan then returned to the Bay Area, where he became a central presence in the San Francisco literary scene as an exuberant and well loved raconteur and intellectual figure. From 1979 to 1985, he taught at New College of California in San Francisco, where he was the guiding spirit behind the school's poetics program, which tapped the talents of several well-known Bay Area poets. Duncan was a Guggenheim fellow in 1963 and own the Harriet Monroe Memorial prize from Poetry magazine in 1961. Some of his other published works include "The Opening of the Field" in 1960, "Roots and Branches" in 1964, "Bending the bow" in 1968 and "The Sweetness and Greatness of Dante's Divine Comedy" in 1974. Painter Jess Collins, his companion of 37 years, was at Duncan's bedside when he died early yesterday. Duncan's body will be cremated and his ashes scattered at sea. A memorial service is planned, but a date has not been set. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:29:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: Film Studies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This might be a tad unorthodox, but you might consider using the books of Brakhage, Deren, etc. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are enslaved by what makes us free -- intolerable paradox at the heart of speech. --Robert Kelly Sailing the blogosphere at: http://heatstrings.blogspot.com/ Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:43:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: gfrym@EARTHLINK.NET Subject: Re: film studies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What a great chance! For noir, I like A Panorama of American Film Noir, Raymond Borde & Etienne Chaumeton, published by City Lights. Then you can show "Double Indemnity," "The Postman Always Rings Twice" (there are two Hollywood versions and one Italian called "Osessione"), even the weird Hemingway's "The Killers" (which is an interesting example of a very great short story redone for film with a complicated backstory that didn't exist--the Robert Mitchum version, not the Ronald Reagan!), etc. I've got lists. And I'm sure you do to. If you're into Satayjit Ray, and I am deeply, try to find his book, which is sort of a cino-bio of his life as an art student, then a film buff of Western movies, then a writer/director/musical director of his own films. The last time I found it was at the U of NM library, so probably U of A has it. Oh, you've gotten me started. I know some doc filmmakers, one of whom, Gene Rosow, got a PhD in Film Studies at Berkeley, wrote an important film studies book, then got an National Endowment to go to Cuba to make "The Roots of Cuban Music" a long time ago. Little did the government know what they were financing. I think Harry Belafonte narrated it. You don't want me to go on. . . . Love, Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles alexander" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: film studies >I have been asked to teach a film class next year. I've often incorporated >film into lit and writing classes I have taught, but I've never taught a >specific film class before. I would love to receive suggestions about books >any of you use in such classes, including single-author works and >collections of film criticism and theory. The course will be a general >introduction to film studies, and viewings will include experimental film >(Stan Brakhage, Maya Deren, etc.), early film (Eisenstein, Chaplin, Keaton, >etc.), and representative works from various countries and genres of film. >I probably don't need to assign a book for students at all, but I'm >thinking about it. Please send suggestions to me at , >unless people think this is an appropriate topic for this list-serve. > > Charles ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 03:47:34 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christophe Casamassima Subject: Re: Gil Ott correspondence Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Charles, do contact folks from PennSound; Chris & Jen McCreary co-wrote a (split)boo= k on Singing Horse and should have something substantial; folks from the Te= mple U. Creative Writing M.A. also should have something worthwhile. Hope this helps, Christophe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles alexander" > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Gil Ott correspondence > Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:58:24 -0700 >=20 >=20 > Friends, >=20 > For a projected volume of Selected Works by Gil Ott, my co-editor=20 > Eli Goldblatt and I are looking for selections of correspondence=20 > written by Gil to writers, artists, friends, etc., which are not=20 > among the archive of Ott papers. If you possess, or know about,=20 > correspondence you believe would be valuable to our efforts, please=20 > let us know, and, if possible, send copies (hard copy or digital)=20 > to me at Chax Press: . Also, please feel free to=20 > pass this notice on to other individuals and list-serves. >=20 > Thank you, >=20 > Charles Alexander > Chax Press > 101 W. Sixth St. > Tucson, AZ 85701-1000 >=20 > 520-620-1626 > =3D Home Emergency Disaster Survival Kits Emergency survial kits with 72 hours of supplies including first aid. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=3De857fbc5ab92da04d7eb5= 3423f53946e --=20 Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:05:48 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aryanil Mukherjee Subject: Re: film studies In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20070516095831.02e27898@mail.theriver.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can suggest an excellent book by Satyajit Ray - Our Films Their Films. A classic east/west comparative analysis of a language that is called "cinema". There's another one from Eric Rohmer which contains his reflections on several western films (Hollywood and parallel American cinema included) which I thought could serve as a rich starter. Aryanil -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of charles alexander Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:03 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: film studies I have been asked to teach a film class next year. I've often incorporated film into lit and writing classes I have taught, but I've never taught a specific film class before. I would love to receive suggestions about books any of you use in such classes, including single-author works and collections of film criticism and theory. The course will be a general introduction to film studies, and viewings will include experimental film (Stan Brakhage, Maya Deren, etc.), early film (Eisenstein, Chaplin, Keaton, etc.), and representative works from various countries and genres of film. I probably don't need to assign a book for students at all, but I'm thinking about it. Please send suggestions to me at , unless people think this is an appropriate topic for this list-serve. Charles ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 13:16:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: charles alexander Subject: Re: Gil Ott correspondence In-Reply-To: <20070516194734.41F3513F54@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks, Christophe. I didn't know about the book on Singing Horse. I will contact them. I think Eli, who is at Temple, is speaking with others there. Gil's archive is at Penn, but he didn't usually save copies of his own outgoing letters, so that's not as much help as we might have wanted. We are in touch with people at PennSound. cheers! Charles At 12:47 PM 5/16/2007, you wrote: >Charles, > >do contact folks from PennSound; Chris & Jen McCreary co-wrote a >(split)book on Singing Horse and should have something substantial; folks >from the Temple U. Creative Writing M.A. also should have something worthwhile. > >Hope this helps, > >Christophe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "charles alexander" > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Subject: Gil Ott correspondence > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:58:24 -0700 > > > > > > Friends, > > > > For a projected volume of Selected Works by Gil Ott, my co-editor > > Eli Goldblatt and I are looking for selections of correspondence > > written by Gil to writers, artists, friends, etc., which are not > > among the archive of Ott papers. If you possess, or know about, > > correspondence you believe would be valuable to our efforts, please > > let us know, and, if possible, send copies (hard copy or digital) > > to me at Chax Press: . Also, please feel free to > > pass this notice on to other individuals and list-serves. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Charles Alexander > > Chax Press > > 101 W. Sixth St. > > Tucson, AZ 85701-1000 > > > > 520-620-1626 > > > > > >= >Home Emergency Disaster Survival Kits >Emergency survial kits with 72 hours of supplies including first aid. >http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=e857fbc5ab92da04d7eb53423f53946e > > >-- >Powered By Outblaze charles alexander / chax press fold the book inside the book keep it open always read from the inside out speak then Chax Press 520-620-1626 (studio) 520-275-4330 (cell) chax@theriver.com chax.org 101 W. Sixth St. Tucson, AZ 85701-1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:48:20 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: laura oliver Subject: Re: film studies In-Reply-To: <015b01c797f5$98c55780$ea2c7a92@net.plm.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Brazilian Cinema- by Johnson and Stam- about the Cinema Novo movement in Brazil and S. America, (you must show Pixote, if you use this text) Vampires and Violets- not sure of author, but it is about lesbians/lesbian portrayal in the cinema If I think of more, I'll reply again. -Laura ----Original Message Follows---- From: Aryanil Mukherjee Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: film studies Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:05:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from acsu.buffalo.edu ([128.205.7.57]) by bay0-mc7-f15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Wed, 16 May 2007 13:11:12 -0700 Received: (qmail 838 invoked from network); 16 May 2007 20:11:08 -0000 Received: from listserv.buffalo.edu (128.205.7.35) by deliverance.acsu.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 16 May 2007 20:11:08 -0000 Received: by LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 14.5) with spool id 5523001 for POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU; Wed, 16 May 2007 16:11:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 5908 invoked from network); 16 May 2007 20:05:53 -0000 Received: from mailscan3.acsu.buffalo.edu (128.205.6.135) by listserv.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 16 May 2007 20:05:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 17482 invoked from network); 16 May 2007 20:05:51 -0000 Received: from usslmgate001.ugs.com (134.244.32.85) by smtp4.acsu.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 16 May 2007 20:05:51 -0000 Received: from USCIMPLM004.ugs.com ([146.122.22.51]) by usslmgate001.ugs.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 16 May 2007 15:05:49 -0500 Received: from cii6w183 ([146.122.44.234]) by USCIMPLM004.ugs.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 16 May 2007 16:05:49 -0400 X-Message-Info: oG9qAjD2BNG0yVlB517PPLximURLSG4piAbGo0l9LtWxyGQWPVSe8guLjNNyQi3Z Approved-By: poetics.list@GMAIL.COM Delivered-To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU References: <6.2.1.2.2.20070516095831.02e27898@mail.theriver.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AceX3vamB7gGXWBHS+KT6rfq55WHeQAFc3Ww X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2007 20:05:49.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[99071B70:01C797F5] X-UB-Relay: (usslmgate001.ugs.com) X-PM-Spam-Prob: : 7% Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Return-Path: owner-poetics@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU I can suggest an excellent book by Satyajit Ray - Our Films Their Films. A classic east/west comparative analysis of a language that is called "cinema". There's another one from Eric Rohmer which contains his reflections on several western films (Hollywood and parallel American cinema included) which I thought could serve as a rich starter. Aryanil -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of charles alexander Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:03 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: film studies I have been asked to teach a film class next year. I've often incorporated film into lit and writing classes I have taught, but I've never taught a specific film class before. I would love to receive suggestions about books any of you use in such classes, including single-author works and collections of film criticism and theory. The course will be a general introduction to film studies, and viewings will include experimental film (Stan Brakhage, Maya Deren, etc.), early film (Eisenstein, Chaplin, Keaton, etc.), and representative works from various countries and genres of film. I probably don't need to assign a book for students at all, but I'm thinking about it. Please send suggestions to me at , unless people think this is an appropriate topic for this list-serve. Charles _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storage—get 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:44:21 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aryanil Mukherjee Subject: Re: film studies In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20070516131947.02df06d0@mail.theriver.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charles There are many. His films have been studied in many many universities worldwide in great details. University of California at Santa Cruz have a great collection of Ray films and a suitable web resource (http://satyajitray.ucsc.edu/ ) His most famous films are the Apu Trilogy - 1. Song of the Little Road 2. The Unvanquished 3. The World of Apu I think Kanchenjungha is a beautiful, poetic film that melts the narrative away. Music Room is another great film that tells a sad tale of a withering aristrocratic Indian culture in the wake of western industrialization. I personally like his journey film - The Actor (Nayak), The lonely Wife(Charulata), a love story and the most shining of them all - The Chess Players (Shatranj Ki Khilari). You can also refer to the site filmref.com which I found very helpful. http://filmref.com/directors/dirpages/ray.html Also check out this website run by the Satyajit Ray society. http://www.satyajitray.org/ Aryanil ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:36:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: James T Sherry Subject: Tomorrow: Big Book Party MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Yo-Yo Labs, The Figures, Roof, United Artists, Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating the publication of the following books: a (A)ugust, by Akilah Oliver UNTITLED WORKS, by Tonya Foster NOTES FOR SOME (NOMINALLY) AWAKE, by Julie Patton FERVENT REMNANTS OF REFLECTIVE SURFACES, by Evelyn Reilly ARE WE NOT BETRAYED BY IMPORTANCE, by Francis Picabia SEEING OUT LOUD (back in print), by Jerry Saltz COLUMNS & CATALOGUES, by Peter Schjeldahl MINE, by Clark Coolidge IFLIFE, by Bob Perelman FOLLY, by Nada Gordon MAKING DYING ILLEGAL, by Madeline Gins & Arakawa KLUGE : A MEDITATION & Other Works, by Brian Kim Stefans NINETEEN LINES : A Drawing Center Anthology, ed. by Lytle Shaw MY AUTOBIOGRAPHY, by Barbara Henning SOLUTION SIMULACRA, by Gloria Frym JOIN THE PLANETS, by Reed Bye ACROSS THE BIG MAP, Ruth Altmann SOME FORMS OF AVAILABILITY, by Simon Cutts A TESTAMENT OF WOMEN, by Johanna Drucker PARADIGM OF THE TINCTURES, by Steve McCaffery & Alan Halsey ALMA, OR THE DEAD WOMEN, by Alice Notley PAPER CHILDREN, by Mariana Marin INSPECTOR VS. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Major poetry event-- Tomorrow !! every other month the Atlanta Poets Group presents: Language Harm the premier poetry performance event of the deep south (we mean deep) this month's theme: "Gender Allegiances" gender allegiances: what side of the line are you on? or, are you somewhere in the middle? are you in the same place you were yesterday? find out how the Atlanta Poets Group views, juggles, and/or complicates gender and its multiperplexities. Thursday May 17 8:00 $5.00 @: eyedrum 290 Martin Luther King Jr. Drive Atlanta GA http://atlantapoetsgroup.blogspot.com/ http://www.eyedrum.org/ "but a poem is a relationship spelled relationships" --Steve McCaffery ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:20:07 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: FW: Letter to Black America on Palestinian Rights & June 10 March MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cornell West among the signees--there are posters now in Metro in DC for th= e March--which is also supported among 140 plus organizations by Jewish Voi= ce for Peace and other Jewish organizations--(i note this so readers do no= t jump to false conclusions about the international justice, humanitarian = and human rights nature of this march--)Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:36:21 -0= 400From: uscampaign@mail.democracyinaction.orgTo: davidbchirot@hotmail.comS= ubject: Letter to Black America on Palestinian Rights & June 10 March =20 =20 Letter to Black America on Palestinian Rights and June 10th March & Rally= =20 On 15 May 2007, 22 Black American professors, writers, religious figures, = and=20 other leaders issued a call to Black America to join in the June 10 March a= nd=20 rally, and break the silence on the injustices faced by the Palestinian=20 people. =20 =20 =20 To Black America: It is time for our people to once again demand that the silence be broken on the injustices faced by the Palestinian people resulting from the Israeli occupation.On June 10th, the national coalition known as the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation (endtheoccupation.org) will be spearheading a march and rally to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the beginning of the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories.=20 We, the signatories of this appeal, ask that Black America again take a leading role in this effor= t as well as the broader work to bring attention to this 40 year travesty of justice. United Nations resolutions have called for the Israeli withdrawal, yet the Israeli government, with the backing of the USA, has ignored them. The Israeli government has appropriated Palestinian land in open defiance of international law and overwhelming international condemnation. =20 Within the USA anyone who speaks in favor of Palestinian rights and justice is immediately condemned as being allegedly anti-Israel (and frequently allegedly anti-Semitic), shutting down legitimate discussion. A case in point can be= seen in the current furor surrounding former President Jimmy Carter who was criticized for his assertion in his best-selling book, Palestine:=20 Peace Not Apartheid, that Israeli obstructionism lies at the root of the failure to achieve a just Palestinian/Israeli settlement. =20 As Nobel prizewinner Archbishop Desmond Tutu has written, "People are scared in the US, to say 'wrong is wrong,' because the pro-Israeli lobby is powerful--very powerful. Well, so what? For goodness sake, this is God's world! We live in= a moral universe. The apartheid government was very powerful, but today it no longer exists."=20 Many of those who most outspokenly agree with President Carter and Archbishop Tutu = are American Jews. And many American Jews, including the national organization Jewish Voice for Peace, will be among those rallying for Palestinian rights= on June 10th - as will many other Americans, including member groups of the leading anti-war coalition United for Peace and Justice.=20 Leaders from Black America have repeatedly and historically been among the most out= spoken proponents of justice for the Palestinian people. Our leaders have defende= d the Palestinian people's right to full self-determination and an end to the Occupation as central to peace in the region. Our leaders have not criticized the Jewish people but they have expressed outra= ge at the Israeli government that collaborated with the apartheid South Africa= n government (including in the development of weapons of mass destruction) an= d emulated South Africa's treatment of its Black majority in its own treatment of the Palestinian peo= ple. As we struggle to build our country's support for Palestinian human rights, we wi= den the door for both Arab and Black Americans to deal with the issues that joi= n them together, as well as those that separate them. We will help to energiz= e - and to heal - both communities.=20 June tenth and Juneteenth: will our struggles lead the way to a new emancipation= of others? Our own integrity as a people, let alone our own experience with massive injustice and oppression, demand = that we step forward, speak out, and insist on a change in US policy towards the Palestinian people. Since when have an illegally occupied people been wrong in demanding and fighting for their hu= man rights and land? Since when have such people and their cause not been worthy of our support? Please join us on June 10th! Signed by (affiliation for identification purposes only) Salih Booker, former Executive Director of Africa Action Khephra Burns, author, editor, playwright Horace G. Campbell, Professor of African American Studies and Political Science Dr. Ron Daniels, President, Institute of the Black World 21st Century Bill Fletcher, labor and international activist, and writer George Friday, United for Peace and Justice Co-Chair, National Coordinator, Independent Progressive Politics Network Rev. 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Jamala Rogers, Black Radical Congress=20 Don Rojas, former director of communications for the National Association for the Advancement= of Colored People=20 Zoharah Simmons, human rights activist=20 Chuck Turner. Boston City Councilor Hollis Watkins, Former Freedom Singer and staff member of Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee; human rights activist (1961 - present) =20 Dr. Cornel West Emira Woods, co-director, Foreign Policy In Focus, Institute for Policy Studies If you would like to endorse this "Letter to Black America on Palestinian R= ights and June 10th March & Rally", please click here.=20 US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation PO Box 21539 Washington, DC 20009 202-332-0994 http://www.endtheoccupation.org To donate, click here To subscribe, click here To unsubscribe, click here =20 _________________________________________________________________ Create the ultimate e-mail address book. Import your contacts to Windows Li= ve Hotmail. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/managemail2.html?locale=3Den-us&ocid= =3DTXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_impcont_0507= ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:23:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Walking Theory, my new book! Comments: cc: UK POETRY Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Mark Weiss' Junction Press - as some of you already know - has just release= d Walking Theory, my new book of poems. Ron Silliman at has already given it a "to die for" review that I deeply appreciate). ... these are the poems Stephen Vincent has been preparing to write his entire life. They definitely pass the =B3take the top of your head off=B2 test. I went cover to cover without even sitting up. Silliman=B9s Blog, (http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/) May 15, 2007 (Scoot down a day in order to find it). =20 Walking Theory (84 pages, $12) Wherever you may be about the globe, Junction now has a website (www.junctionpress.com) to enable online ordering and payment. (Just follow the alphabetical list of authors down to my name). Contact me directly, , if you prefer a signed copy! Bookstores can go straight to Junction or to Small Press Distribution. I cannot help but throw in a couple of nice back cover blurbs from Bill Berkson and Beverly Dahlen: At long last is Walking Theory, Stephen Vincent=B9s observant, large-hearted poems bundled into book form, engaging architecture, people on the move, th= e seasons and other transience, the talk that binds the day: Goodbye, rhetoric, =B3the desperate,/what can the poem do, walking, step-by-step:/ witness, suffer, hope.=B2 Urbane and companionable, rare virtues flaunted here, curbside delight. Bill Berkson Stephen Vincent's work here preserves and enhances the ancient association of the foot as measure of the poetic line. In Walking Theory measure become= s metaphor: =B3...foot ever to the ground, image by image, /thought by thought= , word by word...=B2 This is the measure of the continuity of a poet=B9s life as he moves through the days, from the grief-stricken rhythms of the opening section of elegies to the more expansive tours of the San Francisco neighborhoods where he lives and works. Vincent celebrates the beauty of these familiar landscapes, as well as strange, unexpected and sometimes mundane details. In a wonderful pun that arises in the midst of the naming of spring flowers, =B3the dotted eye=B2 suggests the I of linguistic convention as the seeing, moving body=B9s eye transformed by language. Finally, in this serious play of words, the poets asks: =B3what can the poem do, walking, step-by step:=B2 and credo-like responds: =B3witness, suffer, hope.=B2 Beverly Dahlen Yes, they both quoted the same lines! Thanks for your interest, Stephen Vincent http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 01:33:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Capilano Review launch, May 17, 7:30, Emily Carr Institute, Vancouver MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0133_01C79823.6D0ACC50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C79823.6D0ACC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This has been posted once to the list, but I thought I'd post it again 'cause the launch is tonight. Launch of what? Launch of a special issue of The Capilano Review on matters relating to digital writing and art. If you're in or around Vancouver, hope to see you tonight. ja New Writing, New Technologies Launch Party for TCR 2-50: Artifice and Intelligence, guest edited by Andrew Klobucar With panel discussion, food, & live a/v by CineCitta Presented by the Capilano Review and Upgrade! Vancouver May 17, 2007 7:30 pm The latest issue of The Capilano Review: 2-50 - Artifice and Intelligence, features an array of cultural producers currently investigating the complex and rapidly evolving relationships between writing, art, and digital technology. Join us as we explore critical questions on how contemporary developments in media technologies - its tools and methods - continue to influence many of today's most important literary and art movements, and how these new technologies affect the concept of knowledge. Panel discussion with Jim Andrews, Kate Armstrong, David Jhave Johnston, Laura Marks, Sandra Seekins, and Darren Wershler-Henry, moderated by Andrew Klobucar. Join us for food, drinks and live a/v by CineCitta 7:30pm Panel discussion: 8:30 pm Intersections Digital Studios (IDS) Emily Carr Institute of Art + Design 1399 Johnston Street, Granville Island More information: http://www.katearmstrong.com/upgrade/vancouver/ http://www.thecapilanoreview.ca Supported by The Canada Council for the Arts, Capilano College, Upgrade! Vancouver, & Emily Carr Institute for Art and Design. Darren Wershler-Henry appears courtesy of Capilano College's new Creative Writing Program reading series OPEN TEXT. The Capilano Review: 2-50 - Artifice and Intelligence Contributors: Global Telelanguage Resources Sandra Seekins Kate Armstrong David Jhave Johnston Laura U. Marks Sharla Sava Antonia Hirsch Kevin Magee Jim Andrews Gordon Winiemko Nancy Patterson Darren Werschler-Henry http://www.thecapilanoreview.ca ORDER ONLINE WITH SECURE PAYMENT ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C79823.6D0ACC50 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT00125.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00125.txt" _______________________________________________ vanupgrade mailing list vanupgrade@lists.katearmstrong.com http://lists.katearmstrong.com/mailman/listinfo/vanupgrade ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C79823.6D0ACC50-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:38:32 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Tomorrow: Big Book Party In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" wow, what an achievement in this bleak time. yay to all! At 4:36 PM -0400 5/16/07, James T Sherry wrote: >Yo-Yo Labs, The Figures, Roof, United Artists, >Granary, & Ugly Duckling invite you to a party >at Jack Shainman Gallery, 513 W. 20th >May 17th, 2007, from 5:45-8PM, celebrating >the publication of the following books: > > >a (A)ugust, by Akilah Oliver >UNTITLED WORKS, by Tonya Foster >NOTES FOR SOME (NOMINALLY) AWAKE, by Julie Patton >FERVENT REMNANTS OF REFLECTIVE SURFACES, by Evelyn Reilly > >ARE WE NOT BETRAYED BY IMPORTANCE, by Francis Picabia >SEEING OUT LOUD (back in print), by Jerry Saltz >COLUMNS & CATALOGUES, by Peter Schjeldahl >MINE, by Clark Coolidge > >IFLIFE, by Bob Perelman >FOLLY, by Nada Gordon >MAKING DYING ILLEGAL, by Madeline Gins & Arakawa >KLUGE : A MEDITATION & Other Works, by Brian Kim Stefans >NINETEEN LINES : A Drawing Center Anthology, ed. by Lytle Shaw > >MY AUTOBIOGRAPHY, by Barbara Henning >SOLUTION SIMULACRA, by Gloria Frym >JOIN THE PLANETS, by Reed Bye >ACROSS THE BIG MAP, Ruth Altmann > >SOME FORMS OF AVAILABILITY, by Simon Cutts >A TESTAMENT OF WOMEN, by Johanna Drucker >PARADIGM OF THE TINCTURES, by Steve McCaffery & Alan Halsey >ALMA, OR THE DEAD WOMEN, by Alice Notley > >PAPER CHILDREN, by Mariana Marin >INSPECTOR VS. EVADER, by Paul Killebrew >THE HOT GARMENT OF LOVE IS INSECURE, by Elizabeth Reddin >THE STATES, by Craig Foltz >COMPLETE MINIMAL POEMS, by Aram Saroyan > >James T Sherry >Segue Foundation >(212) 493-5984, 8-340-5984 >sherryj@us.ibm.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:49:43 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Baraban Subject: "Tramp The Dirt Down" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was thinking, I can understand why C.A. & others feel gleeful about the death of Jerry Falwell--and yet, the pile-up of glee & milder happiness & relief did not constitute for me the loveliest day the Poetics List has ever seen. Then I recalled two formidable songs that wish for the death of hated persons--Bob Dylan's "Masters of War" & Elvis Costello's "Tramp the Dirt Now". Since the second (from E.C.'s 1989 album "Spike") is no doubt not as familiar, I will quote the beginning: I saw a newspaper picture from the political Campaign A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously In pain She spills with compassion, as that young child's Face in her hands she grips Can you imagine all that greed and avarice Coming down on that child's lips Well I hope I don't die too soon I pray the Lord my soul to save Oh I'll be a good boy, I'm trying so hard to behave Because there's one thing I know, I'd like to live Long enough to savour That's when they finally put you in the ground I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down ________________________ Especially with the music, this is quite compelling. Possible conclusion: it's best to shape one's extreme hatred into a song or poem because that adds another dimension (?) Of course if anyone submits a poem to this List it's at their own peril. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:39:50 +0900 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Glass Subject: Gil Ott Correspondence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Charles and Eli-- Gil Ott and I corresponded a bit in the mid-eighties. My side might already be in his archive; his will certainly be available via Special Collections, The University of Maryland, after September or so. Contact person is Beth Alvarez and contact details are on-line. Also, did you track down all of Cid's correspondence with Gil? If I hear nothing I will assume that you did. Jess ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:09:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: **Last Call: Advertise in Boog City 41** Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Please forward ----------------------- Advertise in Boog City 41 *Deadline --Wed. May 23-Ad copy to editor --Sat. May 26-Issue to be distributed Email to reserve ad space ASAP We have 2,250 copies distributed and available free throughout Manhattan's East Village, and Williamsburg and Greenpoint, Brooklyn. ----- Take advantage of our indie discount ad rate. We are once again offering a 50% discount on our 1/8-page ads, cutting them from $60 to $30. (The discount rate also applies to larger ads.) Advertise your small press's newest publications, your own titles or upcoming readings, or maybe salute an author you feel people should be reading, with a few suggested books to buy. And musical acts, advertise your new albums, indie labels your new releases. (We're also cool with donations, real cool.) Email editor@boogcity.com or call 212-842-BOOG(2664) for more information. thanks, David -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcityevents.blogspot.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:00:01 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Gil Ott Tribute & the Gil Ott Book Award, IF YOU LOVE POETRY! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Gil Ott Tribute & the Gil Ott Book Award, IF YOU LOVE POETRY! June 3rd, 4pm ROBIN'S BOOKSTORE http://www.robinsbookstore.com/ 108 S. 13th Street, Philadelphia Tim Peterson is the recipient of the Gil Ott Book Award for SINCE I MOVED IN (Chax Press) The late Gil Ott touched many lives, and helped change the Philadelphia arts scene for generations to come. We will be gathering to honor Gil's legacy with a reading from the first book award, and to hear readings of Gil's work by his friends, family, and admirers. Readers will include: Eli Goldblatt, Alicia Askenase, Joshua Schuster, CAConrad, Jenn McCreary, Ron Silliman, Chris McCreary, Linh Dinh, Ryan Eckes, Bob Perelman, Tim Peterson, Frank Sherlock, Kristen Gallagher, Julia Blumenreich For online links to Gil Ott's work, as well as the link to Tim Peterson's book, go to: http://CAConradEVENTS.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:24:28 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Beckett Subject: The Continental Review:poets/video MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Poets, Friends, Colleagues, I am writing to tell you about the launch of the first exclusively video-only forum for contemporary poetry and poetics on the web, The Continental Review. The site, which has just gone live over at www.thecontinentalreview.com, is a continuously updated collection of video readings, video reviews and video interviews of and about contemporary poetry and poetics. For the launch, we are lucky enough to be featuring videos by such extraordinary poets as: Linh Dinh Noah Eli Gordon Eileen Tabios Tom Beckett Chris Vitiello Jonathan Leon Joshua Marie Wilkinson Allyssa Wolf It is our hope that The Continental Review, with its videos available simultaneously on the website and via YouTube, signals a new approach in the communication and reception of contemporary poetry and poetics by means of new media. I hope you=E2=80=99ll find the site interesting, and I look forward to your feedback, as well as your participation. Sincerely, Nicholas Manning nicholas.manning@ens.fr Editor, The Continental Review 27 rue Morand 75011 Paris France ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com= . ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:00:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 5/21 - 5/25 In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dears, It=B9s a big week. O! Won=B9t you join us? Love, The Poetry Project Monday, May 21, 8:00 pm Evan Kennedy & Trish Salah Evan Kennedy is the cofounder and singer of The Patriot Act, a now defunct politically insensitive rock and roll art project. He is the author of a pamphlet entitled My Pet Goat and a chapbook Us Them Poems (BookThug, 2006)= . For this reading, he will read from "Voyage by Donkey," a modest piece serving as a d=E9nouement to Nikolai Gogol's Dead Souls, with video accompaniment by Zbigniew Bzymek. Trish Salah is a Montreal-based writer, teacher and spoken word artist. She has new work in the current issues of the journals Drunken Boat, EOAGH, Canadian Theatre Review, and in the collection, Sexing the Maple: A Canadian Source Book. Her first book of poetry, Wanting in Arabic, was published by TSAR in 2002. This event was funded in part by Poets & Writers, Inc. Wednesday, May 23, 8:00 pm Rae Armantrout & Peter Gizzi Rae Armantrout=B9s most recent books are Next Life, Up to Speed, The Pretext, and Veil: New and Selected Poems. In 2007 she received an award in poetry from Foundation for Contemporary Arts. Armantrout is Professor of Poetry an= d Poetics at the University of California, San Diego. Peter Gizzi is the author of The Outernationale, Some Values of Landscape and Weather, Artificial Heart, and Periplum and other Poems 1987=AD1992. He is also the editor of The House That Jack Built: The Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer. Friday, May 25, 10:00 pm Lost & Found Show and tell: Torn texts in multiple voices. Fugitive transmissions. Image= s and objects lost or abandoned are found and polished. The sound of a slow train by the green light of half forgotten songs. POEMS ARE FUN, glamour is made easy. A manual for violence prevention follows ADVANCED TYPING TIPS, PART 5. Glass negative projections. Offerings from an archive. A slide show from an abandoned elementary school. What to do when you lose someone. What to do if you find them. There will be surprises, appearances and absences. David Gatten, filmmaker, Henry James fan, lover of poems and poets, recent Guggenheim fellow and aspiring audio book artist, makes bookish films about letters and libraries and boat and ghosts that are filled with words, some of which you can read. You can find his films in the permanent collections of the Whitney Museum and the Art Institute of Chicago but he can rarely find his glasses. He lives and works by the water in Red Hook, Brooklyn and Seabrook Island, South Carolina. For tonight's event David has invited some of his favorite scavengers to present sounds, images and words, either as they found them or incorporated as elements in compositions of their own design. Participants include Macgregor Card, Mary Helena Clark, Ellie Ga, Jenny Perlin, Michael Robinson, Jonathan Schwartz, Phil Solomon and Jessie Stead. Please go to http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php for participant bios. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.com/membership.php Spring Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.com. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:18:58 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Walking Theory/ USA website orders now possible Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Walking Theory =20 Poems by Stephen Vincent Junction Press (84 pages, $12) Mark Weiss (Junction Press) informs me that his new website, www.junctionpress.com , now does work for domestic (USA) orders. Currently, apparently, the new USA global postal rates still cause havoc in the configurations of Junction's electronic ordering system. To order of the website follow the alphabetical list of authors down to my name Contact me directly, , if you prefer a signed copy! Bookstores can go straight to Junction or to Small Press Distribution. ** (Reviews) ... these are the poems Stephen Vincent has been preparing to write his entire life. They definitely pass the =B3take the top of your head off=B2 test. I went cover to cover without even sitting up. Silliman=B9s Blog, (http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/) May 15, 2007 (Scoot down a day in order to find it). =20 At long last is Walking Theory, Stephen Vincent=B9s observant, large-hearted poems bundled into book form, engaging architecture, people on the move, th= e seasons and other transience, the talk that binds the day: Goodbye, rhetoric, =B3the desperate,/what can the poem do, walking, step-by-step:/ witness, suffer, hope.=B2 Urbane and companionable, rare virtues flaunted here, curbside delight. Bill Berkson Stephen Vincent's work here preserves and enhances the ancient association of the foot as measure of the poetic line. In Walking Theory measure become= s metaphor: =B3...foot ever to the ground, image by image, /thought by thought= , word by word...=B2 This is the measure of the continuity of a poet=B9s life as he moves through the days, from the grief-stricken rhythms of the opening section of elegies to the more expansive tours of the San Francisco neighborhoods where he lives and works. Vincent celebrates the beauty of these familiar landscapes, as well as strange, unexpected and sometimes mundane details. In a wonderful pun that arises in the midst of the naming of spring flowers, =B3the dotted eye=B2 suggests the I of linguistic convention as the seeing, moving body=B9s eye transformed by language. Finally, in this serious play of words, the poets asks: =B3what can the poem do, walking, step-by step:=B2 and credo-like responds: =B3witness, suffer, hope.=B2 Beverly Dahlen Yes, they both quoted the same lines! Thanks for your interest, Stephen Vincent http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 03:07:36 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tim Peterson Subject: SEGUE 5/19 JACK KIMBALL & EILEEN MYLES Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The Segue Reading Series presents Jack Kimball & Eileen Myles Saturday, May 19, 2007 ** 4PM SHARP** at the Bowery Poetry Club (308 Bowery, just north of Houston) $6 admission goes to support the readers hosted by Erica Kaufman & Tim Peterson Jack Kimball's 350-page Post~Twyla collects imploded haiku, essay fragments, and made-up journal entries. Co-editor of "Queering Language" for the online zine EOAGH, he blogs at pantaloons.blogspot.com and publishes Faux Press. from Post-Twyla Momentum. Does the hair actually grow? Off shore The sound of it forces us to make a water landing. (Lap-dogging, I wish I were a poet.) Eileen Myles's newest book of poems Sorry, Tree was published by Wave Books in April. It explores themes of nature, translocation, politics, love and corporate squalor. She lives in Southern CA & New York and teaches at UCSD. "Jacaranda" What's the feminine of feet I didn't know I could have a lavender tree ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:08:53 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: beaten MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed beaten the results of a beating at brown university 1961 - my nose never healed properly. on the other hand, a study towards death and the convulsions of future collapse. i dream of medical beds and testimonies, ICUs and pale and haggard nurses. it's the beating that did it, when i was covered with blood wandering around the green. when i was covered with blood looking for don. when i wanted don to scream. when the guard took me to the hospital. when don kept sleeping. now this seems stupid. most of my work is stupid. it's the beating that did it. the beating turned me criminal. it was my second beating but the first reported. if you hit me i'm a fright. if you hit me i make a film. http://www.asondheim.org/beaten.mp4 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 01:22:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Ciccariello Subject: The summit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The summit -- Peter Ciccariello http://invisiblenotes.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:08:29 +0200 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anny Ballardini Subject: Re: The Continental Review:poets/video In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What an exceptional series of readings and performances, congratulations to Tom and to Nicholas Manning! On 5/17/07, Tom Beckett wrote: > > Dear Poets, Friends, Colleagues, > > I am writing to tell you about the launch of the first exclusively > video-only forum for contemporary poetry and poetics on the web, The > Continental Review. The site, which has just gone live over at > www.thecontinentalreview.com, is a continuously updated collection of > video readings, video reviews and video interviews of and about > contemporary poetry and poetics. For the launch, we are lucky enough > to be > featuring videos by such extraordinary poets as: > > Linh Dinh > Noah Eli Gordon > Eileen Tabios > Tom Beckett > Chris Vitiello > Jonathan Leon > Joshua Marie Wilkinson > Allyssa Wolf > > It is our hope that The Continental Review, with its videos available > simultaneously on the website and via YouTube, signals a new approach in > the communication and reception of contemporary poetry and poetics by > means of new media. > > I hope you'll find the site interesting, and I look forward to your > feedback, as well as your participation. > > Sincerely, > > > Nicholas Manning > nicholas.manning@ens.fr > Editor, The Continental Review > 27 rue Morand 75011 Paris France > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:04:32 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Ellis Subject: Brian Richards on Ron Silliman's blog re: Dorn, and Silliman's brief reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Brian Richards requested that I post the below piece on Dorn - primarily in answer to Ron Silliman's blog review of Dorn's recently published Way More West - and when I suggested he might also include, at the end, Silliman's brief and initial response to it, addressed exclusively to him, he agreed, so, although I'm aware that it may be against Listserv "ethics" to post something without its author's expressed permission, which Ron didn't give and I didn't ask for, I can only say that I'm more interested in the substance of (this) argument, than I am in List ethics, so, if it be necessary, remove me. Please. Richard's essay - Dorn Undone Way More West, reviewed by Ron Silliman on his blog, March 20, 2007 “Black Mountain Breakdown”, August Kleinzahler, New York Times, April, 2007 1. Ron Silliman is often an interesting writer, and his blog is a conduit for certain kinds of helpful information, but I’ve never had a lot of use for his combative, exclusionary poetics. Had Silliman, in his review of Ed Dorn’s posthumous Way More West, attacked Dorn for poetic reasons, I would not have paid much attention since, as shall appear obvious hereafter, I regard Dorn as a master of American poetry of the First Empire—as opposed to Imperial American Poetry, which has Charles Bernstein. But Silliman attacked Dorn’s human nature, and such extra-poetical stereotyping is too obnoxious to ignore. Farts dissipate; shit hangs around. The excrescences encumbering the notion of social rectitude are too disgusting to muck about in; I leave it to Silliman to critique poetry by means of character assassination, only observing that the absence of candor and frank appraisal must produce a poetry of, to adopt Silliman’s cant phrase, quietude. It is shameful to slur a poet because you deplore his opinions, but to dismiss a major figure on grounds of social maladjustment is self defeating and inimical to art. Shelley and Whitman were ostracized by just such posturing Scotch Reviewers. I’ll take Apollonaire, thanks, and Catullus and Villon and Rochester and Blake. You can have Milton and Tennyson and all the John Masefield you can stomach. Silliman says Dorn is “easily [!] the most contentious and controversial of any of the New Americans”, which makes me wonder if he’s ever heard of Jack Spicer. Or Kerouac or Ginsberg, or, for that matter, Olson or Creeley. At least Dorn was never reduced to watching his friends through the window of a bar from which he’d been 86ed. Dorn never fit “easily” into any group. As evidence for his contention, Silliman gossips that Dorn, asked to read at a benefit in 1973, had requested that he be scheduled to appear on stage when he would be forced to encounter neither Creeley nor Joanne Kyger. This, Silliman suggests, was done in the spirit of one-upmanship, so Dorn could read last. Maybe. But, in the summer of ’73, I sat at Richard Grossinger and Lindy Hough’s kitchen table in Plainfield, Vt, all afternoon with Creeley and Dorn, who operated in easy comity. Dorn’s personal distaste for Kyger has been reported in print for some time now, but nobody likes everybody, so Dorn’s behavior hardly justifies extravagant claims of contention and controversy. The only notable difference between Dorn and the others I’ve named above is that none of them ever had anything negative to say about Silliman or his cohort. But why not give Dorn a chance? From a letter to Olson in 1964: “I can hardly get along with Creeley but sense that I can hardly not be a friend….” Of the poetry itself, Silliman has nothing original to say concerning the work that appeared in the first Collected Poems (Four Seasons, 1974) or Gunslinger (collected as ‘Slinger, Wingbow, ’74), but he has plenty to tell us about the later work, his major objections to which are that it is “all over the map”, with a “macho attitude toward violence”. Well, Dorn was an old vines American, after all: vintage ’29. Silliman takes as indicative of those flaws, though he misquotes it, the following epigrammatic gem: one bullet is worth a thousand bulletins which Silliman condemns as staking out “a position that captures the Bush foreign policy in Iraq all too presciently, though I’m sure that’s not what Dorn intended”. We can ignore the anachronism here, but the question remains: if Dorn didn’t intend something that hadn’t yet happened, how can he be charged with fellow traveling? The next question is: has Silliman read the poem? Take just a minute: One picture is worth a thousand words. One gram is worth a thousand milligrams. one bullet / is worth / a thousand bulletins The third of these statements examines the relationship between the first two in a conceit that is evidently too complex to affect Silliman’s predisposition to portray Dorn as a political thinker on the troglodyte order of Dick Cheney, but it won’t wash. It’s just a weak reading of an acute, telling little masterpiece that, like Picasso’s drawing of Don Quixote, defines the nature of means without end. Silliman’s assessment of Dorn’s elegy for Petra Kelley is equally hampered by bourgeois manners. I won’t quote the poem (you could, look it up) but here are some of Silliman’s claims: Item: that “Dorn’s fascination with violence undercuts his green/libertarian tendencies repeatedly.” Nothing in the poem can be cited in support of this assertion. But Silliman does score here; Dorn must be cursing in his grave at being categorized as anything other than a poet, since he thought for himself and joined no groups, especially none co-opted by interested parties of any persuasion. Item: that Dorn may not realize “that more than half of [Kelly’s time in the U.S.] was spent in Columbus, Georgia”. Is this some kind of code? What does Columbus stand for other than the object of a certain kind of snobbishness that Dorn apparently eschewed, but that Silliman does not? At any rate, Silliman never connects this observation with any critique of the poem. Item: that “Petra Kelly didn’t shoot herself [Silliman’s emphasis]…& whether it was a murder-suicide or a joint suicide is one of those unknowables [would this be a known unknown or an unknown unknown?] of history.” Then he accuses Dorn of “misreading a sad act of depression and domestic violence”. I leave it to you to determine just who is doing the misreading here. We have under discussion a poem, not a reasoned argument, observing that those who throw themselves against the machine are doomed, while those who famously abet those acts of self destruction are bankable. Silliman never approaches the interior values of the poem, a courtesy he routinely extends to his friends, as for example the careful examination of short vowel progress in recent poems of Rae Armantrout’s (whose work I admire, and I mean her no ill in naming her as one of Silliman’s group—I mean only to suggest that there is an apparent correspondence between those to whom he gives careful attention and those with whom he has personal links). No charge seems too petty. Silliman quotes the line “…with sumo champions / like Gertrude Stein…” as “cheaply explicit homophobia in making fun of Gertrude Stein’s weight….” How could anyone who has seen Picasso’s portrait of Stein ensconced, hair pulled back into a bun, not have recognized the similarity of placid demeanor and enormous, floating presence? Is that homophobia? Silliman’s attack is ad hominem criticism with a vengeance. The point of Dorn’s stanza is that only Pound’s anti-semitism was egregious enough to put such an attitude in bad odor among artists. But that is not opprobrium enough, evidently, for the attitudinizers of “the fascism of beehive / conformity”(to quote Dorn from the same poem). I have long respected Ron Silliman’s perspicacity as a political thinker—his response to Baudrillard, c. 1989, available through his blog, is especially prescient—but his standing as arbiter of morals among American poets is, in my estimation, dismal. 2. I have often enjoyed August Kleinzahler’s poems for their modest, workmanlike clarity. His “Over Gower Street” is very fine. That in mind, I turned to his NYT review of Way More West with some anticipation that I might be offered the antidote to Silliman’s nasty blog bite, only to find the same sanctimonious dismissal: a bow to the precision of the early work, always careful to attribute its felicities to the influence of Black Mountain; left-handed praise of Gunslinger, not the “major twentieth- century long poem…some serious critics claim it to be”; abrupt, contemptuous dismissal of all that came after. The early poetry, which Kleinzahler calls Dorn’s best, he also labels “Black Mountain influenced”, and says Dorn “identified himself throughout his career with Black Mountain”. What does “identified himself” mean? He acknowledged his time there? He was, as Kleinzahler quotes him admitting, “somewhat corrected” there? He was forever an acolyte? It’s a weasel phrase; in fact, the finest poems in Dorn’s early work owe little to Black Mountain. As a favorite instance, “The Land Below” is well over six hundred lines of discursive observation of his contemporary America as Dorn turned thirty, as seen from the then oblique perspective of Taos. The skill and disinterested passion with which Dorn sets that narrative prefigures the intellectual acuity of Gunslinger. It is instructive to hear the rhythms of the earlier poem morph into mock epic. Kleinzahler ignores Twenty-four Love Songs (Frontier, ’69). If he can find its equal in the past half century, I’d like him to let me know. #6 is representative of the collection: The cleft in our ages is an echoing cañon—look I insist on my voice Archeus become my life and as any other extension not to be ignored— if you were my own time’s possession I’d tell you to fuck off with such vivid penetration you’d never stop gasping and pleasure unflawed would light our lives, pleasure unrung by the secretly expected fingers of last sunday Do you hear me, can you please only agree with me because poems and love and all that happens in the street are blown forward on the slightest breeze That the collection was immediately followed by a second, comparable, set suggested that only Patchen’s love poems were equal in their ability to accumulate the progress of desire. Of Gunslinger, Kleinzahler’s faint-praise “glorious mess” belongs in a movie review. In the inexorability of its organization, Dorn’s poem is much closer to the Odyssey than “The Rape of the Lock” is to the Iliad. No recent American has so honored the epic by mocking it, with the dissimilar exception of Welty’s Losing Battles. But the post-Gunslinger work is dismissed as “tasteless”, “ugly” and prosaic. I wonder how Dorn could have fallen so precipitously. And why his work kept appearing in such handsome editions. What so fooled the editors at Wingbow, Turtle Island, Cadmus and the others who competed for the opportunity to publish him? Why has his reputation in England and among “some serious critics” not suffered? If his late work is “splenetic”, why is that not an appropriate response to the muzzy, sentimental politics of the MFA poets who are allowed to think that it is adequate to write like WCW? If he was pointed (“epigrammatic, satiric, and political”, says Kleinzahler), what better correction to the passionless and obtuse? If Dorn is lost in spleen, how does Kleinzahler account for the playful invention and endless musicality of Captain Jack’s Chaps, Yellow Lola, and Abhorrences, for instances? Is “Broadcide”, his elegy for Richard Brautigan, “commonplace”? And what of Recollections of Gran Apachería (Turtle Island, ’74), from which I ask you to consider the following: And when, above Janos we asked permission of the women to strangle the children the women consented and the suicide gripping of the throats of our own children was done and those delightful voices lay silenced in absolute sacrifice in the burrows where we hid we slipped out through the light from Captain Garcias raging grass fire once more to the Sierra Madre once more past the jaws of your hungry god the frenzy of survival rushing from our pores If that defines spleen, maybe we ought to order all our generals—not to mention our poets—a barrel. θεωρια means “to look at” or “examine”, so when Dorn states, in the preface to Collected Poems (Four Seasons, 1974), that his work is “theoretical in nature”, it is clear that he is not talking about speculation nor any other notion separate from the actual. He adds that his work is “poetic by virtue of its inherent tone”. Any examination of Dorn’s work cannot help but conclude that its intrinsic voice is congruent from “A Rick of Green Wood” to “The Garden of the White Rose”, including all of Gunslinger. If Kleinzahler believes that Dorn’s later work “falls off precipitously”, he should demonstrate—rather than assert—the way the inherent tone of the work changes. Instead, like Silliman, Kleinzahler attacks Dorn’s politics. It has always seemed to me that Dorn’s politics were based on the refusal to suffer fools at all. He made no exceptions, including Olson and Creeley, whose follies he critiqued with the same sardonic levity that so exercises these critics when his contempt is directed at shibboleths to which Silliman and Kleinzahler currently pay obeisance, good taste and fawning over victimhood included. Let me end by quoting Dorn’s final published poem: The Garden of the White Rose Lord, your mercy is stretched so thin to accommodate the need of the trembling earth— How can I solicit even a particle of it for the relief of my singularity the single White Rose across the garden will return next year identical to your faith— the White Rose, whose house is light against the threatening darkness. Does this poem deserve any of the modifiers that Kleinzahler uses to describe Dorn’s late work? Does it sound like something Mel Gibson might say? These two have seriously misevaluated Dorn’s work. In Kleinzahler’s case I’m inclined to think it might have been sloppy reading or, at worst, a swollen appetite. Silliman appalls me by his campaign of personal defamation. Whatever the guiding principles of their respective reviews, we can only hope they never encounter Jonathan Swift. Brian Richards April 30, 2007 _________________________________________________________ Silliman's Reply - You can't abridge an argument that doesn't exist. You don't even wait to the second paragraph to descend to name calling. And you don't address Dorn's racist and homophobic actions at all. It's one thing to disagree about the poetry -- I after said that I like the work prior to Slinger quite a bit -- but the sort of flailing you're doing in this essay isn't about poetry at all. I don't get this sort of crap from the fans of Billy Collins when I say that I don't care for his poetry. What you need to do, if you truly want to defend Dorn, is the following: 1) explain why the flattened, non-nuanced poetry of the later years has value 2) explain how the actions of Dorn, Clark et al in Rolling Stock aren't appalling. If you don't address both, you're basically leaving him hung out to dry, Ron From: Poetry Project Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 5/21 - 5/25 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:00:00 -0400 Dears, It¹s a big week. O! Won¹t you join us? Love, The Poetry Project Monday, May 21, 8:00 pm Evan Kennedy & Trish Salah Evan Kennedy is the cofounder and singer of The Patriot Act, a now defunct politically insensitive rock and roll art project. He is the author of a pamphlet entitled My Pet Goat and a chapbook Us Them Poems (BookThug, 2006). For this reading, he will read from "Voyage by Donkey," a modest piece serving as a dénouement to Nikolai Gogol's Dead Souls, with video accompaniment by Zbigniew Bzymek. Trish Salah is a Montreal-based writer, teacher and spoken word artist. She has new work in the current issues of the journals Drunken Boat, EOAGH, Canadian Theatre Review, and in the collection, Sexing the Maple: A Canadian Source Book. Her first book of poetry, Wanting in Arabic, was published by TSAR in 2002. This event was funded in part by Poets & Writers, Inc. Wednesday, May 23, 8:00 pm Rae Armantrout & Peter Gizzi Rae Armantrout¹s most recent books are Next Life, Up to Speed, The Pretext, and Veil: New and Selected Poems. In 2007 she received an award in poetry from Foundation for Contemporary Arts. Armantrout is Professor of Poetry and Poetics at the University of California, San Diego. Peter Gizzi is the author of The Outernationale, Some Values of Landscape and Weather, Artificial Heart, and Periplum and other Poems 1987­1992. He is also the editor of The House That Jack Built: The Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer. Friday, May 25, 10:00 pm Lost & Found Show and tell: Torn texts in multiple voices. Fugitive transmissions. Images and objects lost or abandoned are found and polished. The sound of a slow train by the green light of half forgotten songs. POEMS ARE FUN, glamour is made easy. A manual for violence prevention follows ADVANCED TYPING TIPS, PART 5. Glass negative projections. Offerings from an archive. A slide show from an abandoned elementary school. What to do when you lose someone. What to do if you find them. There will be surprises, appearances and absences. David Gatten, filmmaker, Henry James fan, lover of poems and poets, recent Guggenheim fellow and aspiring audio book artist, makes bookish films about letters and libraries and boat and ghosts that are filled with words, some of which you can read. You can find his films in the permanent collections of the Whitney Museum and the Art Institute of Chicago but he can rarely find his glasses. He lives and works by the water in Red Hook, Brooklyn and Seabrook Island, South Carolina. For tonight's event David has invited some of his favorite scavengers to present sounds, images and words, either as they found them or incorporated as elements in compositions of their own design. Participants include Macgregor Card, Mary Helena Clark, Ellie Ga, Jenny Perlin, Michael Robinson, Jonathan Schwartz, Phil Solomon and Jessie Stead. Please go to http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php for participant bios. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.com/membership.php Spring Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.php The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you¹d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.com. _________________________________________________________________ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You’ll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:31:37 -0400 Reply-To: az421@freenet.carleton.ca Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: new (slowly) from above/ground press Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT new (finally, slowly) from above/ground press Drowned When Cassandra awakes the sun is already in the room, so too the salted riverbank smell, dampness infecting the sheets. This wave of blood has flowed from her body, the white cotton nightdress dyed red makes her a target, the mattress beneath drenched. Called for, Hecuba takes the stairs in twos, places her hands on Cassandra's warm cheeks, raves about the moon. Now who's crazy, thinks Cassandra and pulls away, Hecuba sitting on the drowned bed, both their hands stained red. (Rhonda Douglas) Anyone paying attention to any of these things will know that I'm infamously late with some of these above/ground press subscription mailings, & that I've barely made anything since last summer; I've been working to correct that for months (& once I'm in Alberta, not only will mailing be better & more regular, but the backlog of publications & previous mailings will be completely caught up; watch too for a secret (still) above/ground project that starts when I arrive!), including perpetually-forthcoming chapbooks by Karen Clavelle (Winnipeg), Cath Morris (Vancouver) & Barry McKinnon (Prince George), as well as a corrected publication by Phil Hall (Toronto) & Margaret Christakos' (Toronto) STANZAS (oh, why can't photocopying just be free or something); for a reading as part of The Factory Reading Series a few days ago [see Amanda Earl's report on the reading through the link below], there were two new little publications that came out, including: RUSHES by Kate Greenstreet (New Jersey) $4 & Time, If It Exists, The Cassandra Poems by Rhonda Douglas (Ottawa) $4 For more information on American poet Kate Greenstreet, see my review of her first poetry collection case sensitive through the link below; for more information on Ottawa poet Rhonda Douglas, check out my note on her poetry at the same. To order either of these little books, add $1 for postage, & in Canadian currency; if sending from outside Canada, send in American, payable to rob mclennan, c/o 858 Somerset Street West, main floor, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1R 6R7; above/ground press subscribers receive (honest!) a complimentary copy; calendar year subscriptions available for $40, & include chapbooks, broadsides, STANZAS magazine & The Peter F. Yacht Club. for further info, links + bios check here: http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-finally-slowly-from-aboveground.html -- poet/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...13th poetry coll'n - The Ottawa City Project .... c/o 858 Somerset St W, Ottawa ON K1R 6R7 * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 12:36:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Katalanche Press Subject: Fwd: clark coolidge's counting on planet zero is now available from fewer & further press In-Reply-To: <8bfc6cb70705180925s637c02ecqb312194e310e2417@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jess Mynes Date: May 18, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: clark coolidge's counting on planet zero is now available from fewer & further press To: Jess Mynes Hello everyone, Fewer & Further Press is pleased to announce the publication of Clark Coolidge's *Counting On Planet Zero* . *Counting On Planet Zero *is printed on laid paper in an edition of 500 copies, 50 of which are special editions. Copies can be purchased for $8, postpaid. Please visit the Fewer & Further Press site for an excerpt and cover image. Payments can be made through the site with Paypal. http://fewfurcounting.blogspot.com/ Special editions are hand-sewn and signed by the author, for $15. If you would like to purchase a special edition, please contact the editor for availability. If you would like to pay by check, mail it to: Jess Mynes 121 Lockes Village Rd Wendell, MA 01379 Thank you very much. Jess Mynes, editor http://fewfurpress.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:06:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: altered books project Comments: To: announce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The altered books project at: http://www.logolalia.com/alteredbooks/ has been updated with new work by: Nico Vassilakis, John M. Bennett, Mike Magazinnik, Sheila E. Murphy and Holly Crawford. This site is currently the #1 result on a Google or Yahoo! search for "altered books". Enjoy, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:10:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: George Bowering Subject: Re: I tin ear rare In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > In case anyone's got nothing to do, I'll be reading in NY state late this month. NYC. Tues, May 29,7:00 pm, McNally Robinson book store, 52 Prince St. Rochester. Weds. May 30, 7:00 pm, Verb Cafe, 740 University Ave. Buffalo. Thurs. May 31, Talking Leaves bookstore, 3158 Main St. George Bowering. Author of his own misfortunes. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:04:22 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: JOB: Teachers & Writers Collaborative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Job Announcement: Teachers & Writers Collaborative (NYC) http://www.twc.org Director of Development and Marketing Summary: The director of development and marketing manages all T&W development and marketing initiatives. This position reports to the T&W director. Responsibilities: ·Creates and implements T&W development plan, including timelines, donor research, and fundraising strategies ·Writes grant proposalsto federal, state, and local government funders, private foundations, and corporations ·Manages fundraising mailings ·Manages fundraising events ·Provides primary staff support to T&W Development Committee ·Engages T&W board members in efforts to support fundraising initiatives ·Works with T&W director to develop relationships with funders and individual donors ·Develops and implements plans for marketing T&W programs, products, publications, and membership ·Creates program, product, publication, and membership marketing materials ·Works with T&W director of operations to design and implement efficient systems for maintaining donor, member, subscriber, and book buyer databases and for providing high-quality service to all T&W customers ·Works with T&W director to design and implement strategies to increase T&W's visibility ·Represents T&W at literary and educational events ·Develops annual fundraising and marketing budgets ·Creates and updates development and marketing material for T&W Web site ·Staffs events held in the Center for Imaginative Writing ·Assists in maintaining T&W's office in neat and clean condition ·Assists with general office tasks; e.g., answering phones, greeting visitors, distributing mail ·Performs other duties as needed Requirements: ·BA plus 5-6 years of experience or MA plus 2-3 years of experience ·Experience in literary arts and/or publishing fields ·Experience in fundraising ·Experience in marketing nonprofit programs, services, and products ·Strong written and oral communication skills ·Ability to work effectively with diverse groups of people Compensation: Salary: mid-$50K. Excellent benefits, including health insurance and generous leave policy. To Apply: Please send cover letter and resume via mail by Monday, June 11, to: Amy Swauger Teachers & Writers Collaborative 520 Eighth Ave., Ste.2020 New York, NY 10018 ____________________________________________________________________________________Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:01:29 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: USAmerican military personnel blocked from posting to MySpace, YouTube, etc MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From "The Iraq Information Crackdown" by Nicholas von Hoffman http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070528/howl2 "Henceforth our soldiers in Iraq will find MySpace, YouTube and eleven other websites blocked when they try to write home or post pictures and videos from military computers. This is the latest in an ongoing crackdown on our people blogging from Iraq. Never mind that much of what we know about this war comes not from commercial news outlets but from what servicemen and -women have sent back home through cyberspace." "The Pentagon says that the communications ban is needed because private messages were clogging Internet capacity and getting in the way of priority war communications. It did not add that some of what our people were sending back home were pictures of events and actions the Administration does not want shown. The President long ago refused to permit pictures of our own war dead returning home in flag-draped coffins, so he must have been going nuts over what active-duty soldiers have been posting on YouTube." ja ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:57:07 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Disarming the teaching of history in the Middle East MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From "Can We Talk?" by Eric Alterman at http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070604/alterman "The difficulty of solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict stems from more sources than one can comfortably count, but surely one of the most significant is our inability even to discuss it. The emotional intensity of so many people's investment in their own self-justifying story line censors the effects of any potentially upsetting fact." . . . . "As it happens two professors, Sami Adwan of Bethlehem University and Dan Bar-On of Ben-Gurion University, are trying to address exactly this problem under the aegis of the Peace Research Institute in the Middle East ( http://vispo.com/PRIME/leohn.htm ). Called "Learning Each Other's Historical Narrative," their project aims to develop parallel histories of the Israelis and Palestinians, translate them into Hebrew and Arabic and train teams of teachers and historians to teach in the classroom. If we are ever to have any real hope of solving the Israel/Palestine crisis, then surely this is the place to begin." ja ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 23:28:32 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Paris talks MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I will be doing a couple of talks in Paris, participating in the E-Poetry conference. *************** FIRST SCREENING *************** On Tuesday May 22 at 9 am, at University Paris8 - amphi X, I'll talk about http://vispo.com/bp , which is a collaborative project recently completed with Geof Huth, Marco Niemi, Dan Waber, and Lionel Kearns: we recovered some programmed, kinetic poems from 1984 called First Screening by the Canadian experimental poet bpNichol and present that work, along with writings about First Screening. It seems often to be assumed that digital art is necessarily short-lived. Part of the motivation--at least for me--was to see if we could do an interesting job of recovering this work done on an Apple IIe in Apple Basic, and present it in a multi-formed way on the net. And write about it from various relevant perspectives. This project is a look back at some of the work of quite a forward-looking poet. But this project is also something of a how-to concerning how to recover and present old digital poetry and possibly other types of digital art. ********** RECENT ART ********** On Tuesday May 22 at 20h at Le Point éphémere (200 quai de Valmy, 75010 Paris, station Jaures), I'll be presenting and discussing some work in progress such as http://vispo.com/bc/qt and http://vispo.com/nio/pens/screenshots as well as a finished piece: http://vispo.com/kearns . I am looking forward to this trip to the city of light. Hope to see you there. ************************ E-POETRY CONFERENCE INFO ************************ http://paragraphe.univ-paris8.fr/epoetry/infospratiques/program.html ja ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 04:29:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: allofme (thinking thru epoetry paris performance) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed allofme in perfect joy i offer self to you accompanied by body closed and open one violates oneself and then the rest compassion turns hardened flesh to yield bodhisattvas recognize the turn enfolding flesh within enfolding flesh worlds and words defer the sound of god words drive her out worlds take her in again shadows sweep light before the dawn days harden like unto the blackest night within the night all vowels disappear sounds moan and grate upon still darker reefs cliffs plunge their streams into the pools below or pools above there is no physics here but course of flesh bound to the broken point or line of plane or moment cauterized and softened as the drawn world swirls night brings on night day brings on night as well the nighthawk's catastrophic cries are wheeled all wheels axles all spokes and rims and hubs unseen and heard in day drawn down to dusk and dusk to dusk and dawn to dusk and folds of skin and flesh bind all in perfect joy which joy i offer self to self to you bound by my body softened closed and still come violate my flesh still open calling you compassion turns your flesh to open me bodhisattvas their their face to me your flesh swallows me your black eyes your blind eyes your heavy lidded eyes your invisible eyes your y http://www.asondheim.org/allofme.mp4 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 08:24:13 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Re: film studies In-Reply-To: <004501c797f2$6a8ec610$6501a8c0@VAIO> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Four books I have used & will use again for such a course: P Adams Sitney: Visionary Film P Adams Sitney: Fil Culture, an anthology Gene Youngblood: Expanded Cinema Stan Brakhage: Scrapbook =97 Collected Writings I would also always show the work (film/video) of Carolee Schneeman =20 & use some of her essays (from "More Than meat Joy" and "Imaging her =20 Erotics") to speak fo the body in/on film / performance. Pierre On May 16, 2007, at 3:43 PM, gfrym@EARTHLINK.NET wrote: > What a great chance! > For noir, I like A Panorama of American Film Noir, Raymond Borde & =20 > Etienne Chaumeton, published by City Lights. Then you can show =20 > "Double Indemnity," "The Postman Always Rings Twice" (there are two =20= > Hollywood versions and one Italian called "Osessione"), even the =20 > weird Hemingway's "The Killers" (which is an interesting example of =20= > a very great short story redone for film with a complicated =20 > backstory that didn't exist--the Robert Mitchum version, not the =20 > Ronald Reagan!), etc. > I've got lists. And I'm sure you do to. > > If you're into Satayjit Ray, and I am deeply, try to find his book, =20= > which is sort of a cino-bio of his life as an art student, then a =20 > film buff of Western movies, then a writer/director/musical =20 > director of his own films. The last time I found it was at the U of =20= > NM library, so probably U of A has it. > > Oh, you've gotten me started. I know some doc filmmakers, one of =20 > whom, Gene Rosow, got a PhD in Film Studies at Berkeley, wrote an =20 > important film studies book, then got an National Endowment to go =20 > to Cuba to make "The Roots of Cuban Music" a long time ago. Little =20= > did the government know what they were financing. I think Harry =20 > Belafonte narrated it. > > You don't want me to go on. . . . > > Love, Gloria > ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles alexander" =20 > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:02 AM > Subject: film studies > > >> I have been asked to teach a film class next year. I've often =20 >> incorporated film into lit and writing classes I have taught, but =20 >> I've never taught a specific film class before. I would love to =20 >> receive suggestions about books any of you use in such classes, =20 >> including single-author works and collections of film criticism =20 >> and theory. The course will be a general introduction to film =20 >> studies, and viewings will include experimental film (Stan =20 >> Brakhage, Maya Deren, etc.), early film (Eisenstein, Chaplin, =20 >> Keaton, etc.), and representative works from various countries and =20= >> genres of film. I probably don't need to assign a book for =20 >> students at all, but I'm thinking about it. Please send =20 >> suggestions to me at , unless people think this =20= >> is an appropriate topic for this list-serve. >> >> Charles ___________________________________________________________ The poet: always in partibus infidelium -- Paul Celan ___________________________________________________________ Pierre Joris 244 Elm Street Albany NY 12202 h: 518 426 0433 c: 518 225 7123 o: 518 442 40 71 Euro cell: (011 33) 6 75 43 57 10 email: joris@albany.edu http://pierrejoris.com Nomadics blog: http://pjoris.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:30:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: cris cheek Subject: Re: The Continental Review:poets/video In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wel but it is not the first such video-forum - sorry. Meshworks has been developing a fine archive of video-poems and videos of readings online for the past two years. So i am really happy to have more. But the claim to be the first is moot - especially as other work(s) were online way b4 Meshworks even. We never claiimed first footing and The Continental Review is silly in doing so. Great to have more company in what is one of the most interesting developments for poetry over the past decade. http://www.orgs.muohio.edu/meshworks/ love and looking forwards cris On 5/17/07, Tom Beckett wrote: > Dear Poets, Friends, Colleagues, > > I am writing to tell you about the launch of the first exclusively > video-only forum for contemporary poetry and poetics on the web, The > Continental Review. The site, which has just gone live over at > www.thecontinentalreview.com, is a continuously updated collection of > video readings, video reviews and video interviews of and about > contemporary poetry and poetics. For the launch, we are lucky enough to be > featuring videos by such extraordinary poets as: > > Linh Dinh > Noah Eli Gordon > Eileen Tabios > Tom Beckett > Chris Vitiello > Jonathan Leon > Joshua Marie Wilkinson > Allyssa Wolf > > It is our hope that The Continental Review, with its videos available > simultaneously on the website and via YouTube, signals a new approach in > the communication and reception of contemporary poetry and poetics by > means of new media. > > I hope you'll find the site interesting, and I look forward to your > feedback, as well as your participation. > > Sincerely, > > > Nicholas Manning > nicholas.manning@ens.fr > Editor, The Continental Review > 27 rue Morand 75011 Paris France > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 09:15:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: maxpaul@SFSU.EDU Subject: NEW AMERICAN WRITING EVENT in NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Please join us in New York on Friday, June 8 to celebrate the publication of NAW #25 (20 years in existence) with readings by Martine Bellen, Maxine Chernoff, Linh Dinh, Paul Hoover, Sharon Mesmer, and Joel Lewis. at Boog City presents d.a. levy lives: celebrating the renegade press Friday, June 8, 6 pm sharp ACA Galleries 529 West 20th Street, 5th floor NYC music by A Brief View of the Hudson wine, cheese, and crackers too Curated with an introduction by Boog City editor David Kirschenbaum ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:04:05 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Small Press Traffic Subject: Hoover & Nathanson at SPT next Fri, 5/25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline U21hbGwgUHJlc3MgVHJhZmZpYyBpcyBwbGVhc2VkIHRvIHByZXNlbnQgYSByZWFkaW5nIGJ5ClBh dWwgSG9vdmVyICYgVGVubmV5IE5hdGhhbnNvbgpGcmlkYXksIE1heSAyNSwgMjAwNyBhdCA3OjMw IHAubS4KClBhdWwgSG9vdmVyIGpvaW5zIHVzIGluIGNlbGVicmF0aW9uIG9mIGhpcyBuZXdlc3Qg Ym9vaywgRWRnZSBhbmQgRm9sZAooQXBvZ2VlKS4gUm9zbWFyaWUgV2FsZHJvcCBzYXlzICIiRWRn ZSBhbmQgRm9sZCBjb21lcyBpbiBzaG9ydApjb3VwbGV0cyB0aGF0IGhhdmUgdGhlIHBpdGggb2Yg YXBob3Jpc21zLCBidXQgZGlzbWFudGxlIGFueQpleHBlY3RhdGlvbiBvZiBjbG9zdXJlLiBUaGV5 IHB1c2ggdGhpbmtpbmcgb3ZlciB0aGUgZWRnZSBpbnRvIHRoZQpmb2xkcyBvZiBhbGwgbWluZHMu IEluIHRoaXMgYW1hemluZyBwbHVyYWwgc3BhY2UgKHRlbnVvdXNseSB0ZXRoZXJlZAp0byB0aGUg d2hpdGUgb2YgdGhlIHBhZ2UpIHN1YnRsZSBkaXNjcmltaW5hdGluZyBpbnRlbGxpZ2VuY2VzIHVu Zm9sZApseXJpYyBpbnRlbnNpdHkgaW50byBxdWVzdGlvbiwgd29uZGVyLCBteXN0ZXJ5LiBFZGdl IGFuZCBGb2xkIGNvbmZpcm1zClBhdWwgSG9vdmVyIGFzIG9uZSBvZiBvdXIgaW1wb3J0YW50IHBv ZXRzLiIgSG9vdmVyIGNvLWVkaXRzIE5ldwpBbWVyaWNhbiBXcml0aW5nIGFuZCB0ZWFjaGVzIGF0 IFNhbiBGcmFuY2lzY28gU3RhdGUgVW5pdmVyc2l0eS4KClRlbm5leSBOYXRoYW5zb24ncyByZWNl bnQgYm9va3MgYXJlIEVyYXNlZCBBcnQgKENoYXggUHJlc3MpIGFuZCBIb21lCm9uIHRoZSBSYW5n ZSAoVGhlIE5pZ2h0IFNreSB3aXRoIFN0YXJzIGluIE15IE1vdXRoKSAoTyBCb29rcykuIE9mIHRo ZQpmb3JtZXIsIEplcm9tZSBSb3RoZW5iZXJnIHNheXM6ICJGYWN0cyAmIHZvaWNlcyBydXNoIGJ5 IGluIHRoZXNlCnBvZW1zLCBsaWtlIHNpZ25hbHMgYm91bmNpbmcgYmFjayB0byB1cyBmcm9tIHJh ZGlvIG9yIHRlbGV2aXNpb24sIGEKbXlzdGVyaW91cyBjb25jb3JkYW5jZSAmIGRpc2NvcmRhbmNl IGF0IHRoZSBiYXR0aW5nIG9mIGFuIGV5ZSBvciBlYXIuCldlIGhhdmUga25vd24gdGhlIGVmZmVj dCBiZWZvcmUsIGJ1dCBOYXRoYW5zb24gY29udmVydHMgaXQgdG8gYQpwbGVhc3VyZSByaWRlLCBo b3dldmVyIGZhc3QgaXQgbW92ZXMsIGhvd2V2ZXIgaXQgdW5uZXJ2ZXMgdXMuIFJlYWQgaXQKYXMg YSB0cnVlIHJlZmxlY3Rpb24gb2Ygb3VyIHdvcmxkIOKAlCBhcyByZWFsICYgYWJzdXJkIGFzIHRo aXMgbW9ybmluZydzCm5ld3Mg4oCUIGhlcmUgaGVhcmQgJiBvdmVyaGVhcmQgYXMgcG9ldHJ5LiIK CgpVbmxlc3Mgb3RoZXJ3aXNlIG5vdGVkLCBldmVudHMgYXJlICQ1LTEwLCBzbGlkaW5nIHNjYWxl LCBmcmVlIHRvCmN1cnJlbnQgU1BUIG1lbWJlcnMgYW5kIENDQSBmYWN1bHR5LCBzdGFmZiwgYW5k IHN0dWRlbnRzLgoKVW5sZXNzIG90aGVyd2lzZSBub3RlZCwgb3VyIGV2ZW50cyBhcmUgcHJlc2Vu dGVkIGlu4oCoVGlta2VuIExlY3R1cmUKSGFsbCzigKhDYWxpZm9ybmlhIENvbGxlZ2Ugb2YgdGhl IEFydHMg4oCoMTExMSBFaWdodGggU3RyZWV0LCBTYW4KRnJhbmNpc2NvIChqdXN0IG9mZiB0aGUg aW50ZXJzZWN0aW9uIG9mIDE2dGggJiBXaXNjb25zaW4pCk5COgoKT3VyIG9mZmljZSB3aWxsIGJl IGNsb3NlZCBkdXJpbmcgSnVuZS4gRGFuYSBUZWVuIExvbWF4IHdpbGwgc3RhcnQgaGVyCnllYXIg YXQgdGhlIGhlbG0gaW4gSnVseS4gSSdsbCBiZSBiYWNrIG5leHQgSnVseSAoMDgpLiBWZXJ5IGJl c3QsCkVsaXphYmV0aAoKCkVsaXphYmV0aCBUcmVhZHdlbGwsIERpcmVjdG9yClNtYWxsIFByZXNz IFRyYWZmaWMgTGl0ZXJhcnkgQXJ0cyBDZW50ZXIgYXQgQ0NBCjExMTHigJQ4dGggU3RyZWV0ClNh biBGcmFuY2lzY28sIENhbGlmb3JuaWEgOTQxMDcKaHR0cDovL3d3dy5zcHRyYWZmaWMub3JnCgoK U21hbGwgUHJlc3MgVHJhZmZpYyBpcyBhbiBhdXRvbm9tb3VzLCBub25wcm9maXQgY29tbXVuaXR5 IGFydHMgY2VudGVyCmFuZCB5b3VyIGRvbmF0aW9ucyBhcmUgYWx3YXlzIHdlbGNvbWUgYW5kIGhl bHBmdWwuIFRoYW5rIHlvdS4K ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:00:30 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Samuel Wharton Subject: "Welcome Home" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear Friends, Family, & People I've Talked to Only a Few Times~ this is just to let you know that my first chapbook, Welcome Home, is now available from NeOPepper Press! i do hope you will check it out. please drop a line whenever you have time. sincerely ~Sam Wharton ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 22:27:13 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Tod Edgerton Subject: Brown MFA '06 Reunion Reading at Stain Bar NYC 5/27 Comments: To: Brown Writing Listserv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If you're in New York next weekend, please come hear us read our poetry, prose, and prose poetry! We graduated from the Literary Arts Program last year, and this is a bit of a reunion reading for us before we scatter even further across the country. Hope you can make it! Michael Tod Edgerton, Kate Schapira, Bronwen Tate, Caroline Whitbeck, and Lynn Xu Sunday May 27th 7:30pm Stain Bar, Williamsburg, Brooklyn 766 Grand St./ L to Grand Ave, walk 1 block West. http://www.stainbar.com/ Michael Tod Edgerton won the 2004 Boston Review Poetry Contest and the 2005 Five Fingers Review Poetry Contest. His poems have appeared or are forthcoming in such other journals as Chelsea, Denver Quarterly, Fell Swoop, New American Writing, New Orleans Review, Skanky Possum, Wild Strawberries, and Word For/Word. He earned his MFA in Literary Arts from Brown University, and will be entering the doctoral program in English at the University of Georgia in the fall. Kate Schapira lives in Rhode Island, where she teaches writing and literature and organizes Publicly Complex, a reading series featuring innovative and challenging writing by the not yet famous. She is the author of Phoenix Memory, a chapbook available from horse less press, and of several handmade self-published chapbooks. This summer she is looking forward to cleaning her work area, appearing on a panel at the University of Rhode Island's first summer writing conference, and working on her new project, an anti-epic set after all the glaciers have melted. Bronwen Tate is the author of a poetry chapbook, Souvenirs (self-published, 2006; available through the Dusie Chapbook Kollectiv) and an as yet untitled chapbook to appear from Cannibal Press sometime soon. Some recent poems have appeared in Typo, How2 Journal, No Tell Motel, and Word For/Word. She received her MFA in poetry from Brown University in 2006. Hard as it is for her to believe, by the time this reading happens, Bronwen will have packed all of her belongings into boxes and will be about to leave for California, where she will begin a PhD in Comparative Literature at Stanford in the fall. She blogs at Bread and Jam For Frances. Caroline Noble Whitbeck's manuscript, Our Classical Heritage: A Homing Device, was the 2006 winner of Switchback Books' Gatewood Prize as selected by judge Arielle Greenberg. She holds a BA in Classics (Latin) from Harvard College and an MFA from Brown University. Born and raised in New York City, she currently resides in Philadelphia, where she is working toward a PhD in Comparative Literature and Literary Theory at the University of Pennsylvania. Her short play "Woof" was produced off-Broadway as part of the Young Playwrights Festival 2000, and her poems have appeared in Horse Less Review, Lumina, Elimae, Cab/Net, and Word For/Word. Our Classical Heritage: A Homing Device is forthcoming in September 2007 from Switchback Books. Lynn Xu is the author of a poetry chapbook, June (Corollary Press, 2006). She has received her MFA from Brown University, the 2007 SLS Fellowship to St. Petersburg judged by Fanny Howe, the 2006 Greg Grummer Prize judged by Anne Carson, and the 2004 Eisner Prize judged by Lyn Hejinian. Her poems have appeared in The Canary, Phoebe, and UDP's 6x6, and are forthcoming in Fence, Swerve, and Eoagh. Lynn Xu likes water. Likes gold. These are not competing species so she is very happy. Please also catch Lynn on Wednesday, May 23rd at 6pm, reading in what she fondly addresses as the "purgatory series" (aka: "post-MFA/pre-1st book" series) at Cornelia Street Cafe: The Cornelia Street Cafe 29 Cornelia Street $6 cover = free drink www.corneliastreetcafe.com Subway: A/C/E/F to West 4th or 1/9 to Christopher Thanks. Hope to see you there! All best, Tod Michael Tod Edgerton Special Lecturer in English Providence College 549 River Avenue Providence, RI 02918-0001 medgerto@providence.edu "There's the mute probability of a reciprocal lack of understanding" - Mei-mei Berssenbrugge --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 21:49:46 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Leslie Scalapino Subject: Pennsound reading from new book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Scalapino.html=20 =20 =20 Pennsound has recorded my (Leslie Scalapino's) reading of selections of = my new poetry book, Day Ocean State of Stars' Night, just arrived from = Green Integer (E-L-E-PHANT Series, 208 pages, $17.95), a collection of = the last eight years: six poem sequences and an essay. I read from = 'Can't' is 'Night', "The Forest is in the Euphrates River" and "DeLay = Rose." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 18:45:55 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Desmond_Swords?= Subject: All Island Slam Championships Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Disporting in cyber-space as a member of the arch poetical spacehood of yeatsean greatness, phishing on the bore-floe and syphoning intelligence = at the troll factories of virtual and entirely fictional reality, i hereby declare the anahorish declaration of meadow soft vowel gradient in consta= nt upward affirmation, the island queen of memory's ace-faces live in litear= te utterance, Poetry captalised, as serious as it gets in the english tongue= suckers, hate me for my talent, but let me ask; do any here hate love mor= e than their fear of failure? Hurrah! Charles knows failure is a process, poetry the grace of slipping carelessly shambolic, yet with reason. You see the graceful swan on the royal canal and, already deep in entrancement, you sink deeper, seeing on= ly the glide and slip, grease and easer of above the datum, watermark, surfa= ce of superbly natural verballing.=20 Yea do nea witness the furious paddle the natives take for granted, space= rs wandering round enchanted by the magic that just is "it" lovers. A red hot collection of honey mouthed talented gits, unlike any other jam= my sods going, the really "real" irish poets delivering from memory, talk of= love and beauty and if it was there in the push, how it assembled, where grace trod and was trod upon. Hurrah!=20 Come to the party The tower block Burnt our cars Children vandalising Horses, a ted-vibe=20 Being the question Flux for sylv, ask=20 Ted, did sidhe top=20 The goddess his eye=20 Apprehended? "Im in the oven" Sylvia wrote not Imagination "Has no law" Dave Lordan said Carnival kavanagh Winner, affirming Wednesday, Aoife Mannix - 13 June Wexford street Carnival Dublin 2. ~ Focus group to foucs Group, hoof plash leash The image to image Second by second, poet Changing, being change Hoof plash leash cloud Reflecting as it tips Brimming existential=20 Vessal, a puddle, truth Click and witness irish Magicians make history=20 All islan slam champion Brendan Murphy, Mersey Liverpoo, John, Sir Mac George and we all Starr Better then the ringer Cod academian gods, oak Bluffers, c'mon and git The island goddess vibe Complaining little For a poet of the sidhe Eye am it, never bested And if i am, it makes=20 No difference, for i am=20 Truth, a father, mother Desmond's words, eoghan English, prendergast Masterson, bohola, mayo Bunacurry up from Davit Sound where an atlantic Cleera wave roars, onyx Steele of every voice That lit literate grove Oak lettered ones, four=20 Apologias all trying to=20 Be a message, slightly Different wording First changing mark=20=20=20 First word of the message Enchant quoting Dantean=20 Enclosures, station in flux Yourself the question mark, A line of insertion, dashes Of memory your message,=20 The thirteenth orgasm Sylvia had as she turned on The gas and snuffed out, drew A Final curtain on the chapter Of existence with ted the bard. http://www.obheal.ie/blog/?page_id=3D18 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:52:45 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Andrew Lundwall Subject: "nougat" by Andrew Lundwall Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed how like a century of breeze in a colossus' footprint you are 'tis there that i caress you laying dreaming a may afternoon sunshining plaid a polaroid so gooey warm and spiraling my awful hairline receding monk-wise dear how the denim hedges turn purple when you twist you poke fun at them your porcelain thighs thieve my identity and smoky railroad spikes of atmosphere pound on blue oblivious to yet we're positive that all of this is something pixellated sacred my happy head screws around valentine's in its playpen making funny faces when you kiss me hard as always please know that my fountain pen is hardcore consider these lines of adoration to be read backwards forwards _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine’s 2007 editors’ choice for best Web mail—award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 21:04:07 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Lott Subject: Rush 2 Press? Ron Swegman... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Does Rush 2 Press still exist? Does anyone have current contact info for Ron Swegman? The info I am finding on Google appears to be out of date... c -- Chris Lott ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:48:43 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: PLG Arts this WEDNESDAY - 4/23 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit PLG Arts Poetry Night Join us on the fourth Wednesday of each month for readings by neighborhood poets and the chance to read your own poetry at our Poetry/Open Mic Night! Featuring: Todd Colby Amy King Ray Pospisil Wednesday, May 23 at 6:30 p.m. Sign up for Open Mic begins at 6:00 p.m. K-Dog & Dunebuggy 43 Lincoln Road Brooklyn, NY 11225 (718) 282-7139 (Prospect Park on the Q) Todd Colby is the author of Riot in the Charm Factory: New and Selected Work (Soft Skull Press) and more recently, Tremble & Shine (Soft Skull Press) and the editor of Heights of the Marvelous: A New York Anthology (St. Martin's Press). He was the lyricist and vocalist for the now-legendary band Drunken Boat. He keeps a blog at http://gleefarm.blogspot.com Amy King lives in Brooklyn, NY, and is the author of the poetry collections, I'M THE MAN WHO LOVES YOU (BlazeVOX Books, 2007), ANTIDOTES FOR AN ALIBI (BlazeVOX Books, 2005), and THE PEOPLE INSTRUMENTS (Pavement Saw Press, 2003). She teaches Creative Writing and English at SUNY Nassau Community College and is the editor-in-chief for the literary arts journal, MiPOesias, and is an interview correspondent for miPOradio. Please visit http://www.amyking.org for more. Ray Pospisil grew up outside New York City and has been writing poetry since his youth. He is a strong advocate of poetry as a verbal, performing (and listening) art, and he appears in various clubs around the city. Ray usually writes in formal meter, sometimes with rhyme, but in a colloquial voice. He rejects the notion that formal poetry must focus on Greek gods and flowers, or that it can only articulate conservative political and social views. Ray's work has been published by several journals, including The Lyric, Iambs & Trochees, The Newport Review and on The Rogue Scholars Collective web site. He works as a freelance journalist, covering energy and environmental issues. http://www.plgarts.org/home.htm For more information email carla_drysdale@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:07:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Baraban Subject: there's still time to fight for small magazines! In-Reply-To: <905909.2489.qm@web83309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Baratier had indicated in April that signing the petition against unfair postal rate increases for publishers of small magazines had to be done by April 24th. I had neglected to act in time, but recently saw that the petition is still up at freepress.net. Upon enquiry, a member of Free Press informed me: "The initial date to send in comments was on April 24. However, due to the overwhelming response from this campaign, the postal service moved the date that this would go into effect to July 15." "Overwhelming response"--this sounds terrific. So, if you have not yet signed the petition and would like to, please go to http://action.freepress.net/campaign/postal as I have. By the way, if you, like me, are confused about whether the request to "edit the (petition's) message" requires you to add any salutations to your particular congresspersons, etc., or a closing signature, no, everything like that is indeed automatically handled by the information about your name and address you give in the form to the right of the page. I was assured of this by the Free Press member who kindly answered my questions. Onward! ____________________________________________________________________________________Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:52:57 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: CALL FOR ENTRIES=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?=978=BA?= International Meeting o f Experimental, Sound & Visual Poetry Comments: To: spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, ubuweb@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed 8=BA International Meeting of Experimental, Sound & Visual Poetry 2007 Edition CALL FOR ENTRIES Works and projects in the following categories may be submitted: . 1. Graphics / Objects / Artists' Books Graphic works size: from 42 X 30 cm (A3) up to 40 X 60 cm. Works must =20= be mounted on either a rigid support (cardboard, foam-board, =20 fiberboard, plastic, etc.), or framed. Where artists' objects and books require a base or pedestal, these =20 must be provided by the participant artist and will be returned after =20= the close of the exhibition. No base or pedestal is necessary for =20 the selection stage. In the case of installations, artists will submit a written layout =20 including drawings. Maximum area to be used by the artist: 1mx1m =20 (base). . 2. Multimedia Only works on CDRoms will be accepted, for reproduction on PC. Maximum work length: 5 minutes. To standardize the materials received, and to be able to edit such =20 material =96with no alterations- and play them the best way possible, =20= the following terms are to be met: - Only 720 pixels x 576 pixels MOV or AVI files will be accepted, - For MPG or MPEG works, the audio shall be sent in a separate AIFF =20 file =96if at all possible- or MP3 file. For synchro purposes, both =20 files shall have the same duration. Required size: 720 pixels x 576 =20 pixels. - For FLASH works, the audio shall be sent in a separate AIFF file =96=20= if at all possible- or MP3 file. For synchro purposes, both files =20 shall have the same duration. Required size: 720 pixels x 576 =20 pixels. No loop FLASH files will be accepted; if necessary, the =20 artist will indicate the times the work is to be looped. The following works will not be accepted: EXE-extension or PowerPoint =20= files, static, digital photographs, interactive, or in DVD support. . 3. Video-Poetry Only VHS (PAL and/or NTSC) or MiniDV PAL works will be accepted. Maximum work length: 5 minutes. .4. Performance / Poetry Actions / Phonetic or Sound Poetry Proposals will be submitted in writing with explanatory drawings or =20 graphs, accompanied by photographic and/or video materials. No =20 experimental music works will be accepted and neither poetry =20 readings. Maximum work length: 10 minutes. NB: The selected proposals will be performed in an area of the =20 exhibition hall to be decided by the organizing committee. Where =20 proposals require specific assemblies, these will be assembled and =20 disassembled on the same performance day. Registration Works will be accompanied by: 1. registration form duly filled out. 2. one picture of the work for the catalog -in CD- with the following =20= characteristics: JPG file, 300 DPI x inch, color or B/W, minimum =20 size: 10 cm. Largest side of image. No pictures will be accepted if =20 sent by e-mail. 3. Since this event receives no official or private subsidy, or =20 economic support, the participation fee will be destined to catalog =20 printing, works transportation, and exhibition materials. A =20 participation fee of $25.00 (for Argentine artists), and of US$ 10.00 =20= (for foreign artists) is to be sent together with the work and the =20 registration form. IMPORTANT NOTE: Pay to the order of FERNANDO =20 GARCIA DELGADO. The theme is free and any technique will be accepted. No works or proposals sent by e-mail will be accepted. Only works received within the deadline will be accepted. 1 DOWNLOADED REGISTRATION FORM Deadline for Receiving Works Works and proposals can be delivered personally or through the mail =20 up to and until August 24th, 2007 LAST POST OFFICE STAMP DATE 8=BA INTERNATIONAL MEETING OF VISUAL POETRY c/o Fernando Garc=EDa Delgado Estados Unidos 1612 =B7 Buenos Aires =B7 C1101ABH =B7 Argentina Catalog An English-Spanish bilingual catalog will be printed featuring all =20 selected works. Each participant will receive a free copy of the =20 exhibition catalog. Selection Committee Only one work per artist or group, and by category, will be selected, =20= provided that it shall meet all above-mentioned requirements. No prizes will be awarded. The selected works will not be returned to the participants. They =20 will join the Vortice Argentina Visual Poetry records which are =20 intended to form a corpus of works for the promotion and =20 dissemination of activities through exhibitions in different cities =20 of Argentina and abroad, as well as for consultation of scholars and =20 researchers. Works not selected for the exhibition can be recovered at Vortice =20 Argentina at the close of the meeting, subject to prior telephone =20 appointment. Exhibition Opening Selected works will be exhibited at Barraca Vorticista, Estados =20 Unidos 1614, of the City of Buenos Aires, from October 3th through =20 31th, 2007. Organizing Committee Laura Andreoni Fernando Garc=EDa Delgado Ivana Mart=EDnez Vollaro Omar Juan Carlos Romero V=EDctor F. Sita VORTICE ARGENTINA Estados Unidos 1612 Buenos Aires =B7 C1101ABH =B7 Argentina tel=E9fono: (+54=B711) 4304=B78972 mailart@vorticeargentina.com.ar DISSEMINATION OF THIS CALL WILL BE APPRECIATED ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 14:24:57 -1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: rumsfeld and poetry MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline http://honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070520/LIFE01/705200356/1081/LIFE the essay will appear sometime soon in Planarchy, edited by Justin Katko of Miami of Ohio. aloha, Susan ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 21:48:04 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: CA Conrad Subject: Re: Rush 2 Press? Ron Swegman... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Chris, yes Ron's press still exists, and he still lives in Philadelphia. Just saw him a couple of days ago. His e-mail address is rush2press@yahoo.com He has a book of his own that came out last year titled PHILADELPHIA ON THE FLY: TALES OF AN URBAN ANGLER His passion for Philadelphia is one I share, though in his book it's for riding his bike along the rivers and fishing. You ever come to Philly you should ask Ron to play you a song on his bango, he's a natural! CAConrad http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 09:01:34 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: 12 by John Shapter Comments: To: announce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the minimalist concrete poetry site at: http://www.logolalia.com/minimalistconcretepoetry/ has been updated with 12 pieces by John Shapter. There are poems, there are found poems, there are concrete poems, here are found concrete poems. Enjoy, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:43:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: ars poetica update Comments: To: announce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The ars poetica project continues its verbiliciousness at: http://www.logolalia.com/arspoetica/ Poems appeared last week by: Angela O'Donnell, Yoko Danno, Robert Sward, and Paul Hoover. Poems will appear this week by: Paul Hoover, Alan Berecka, Rupert Mallin, Sina Queyras, and Karren Alenier. A new poem about poetry every day. Enjoy, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 05:31:03 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Beckett Subject: Galatea Resurrects #6 Is Out! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GALATEA RESURRECTS #6 IS OUT! We are pleased to release Galatea Resurrects #6 (A Poetry Engagement). The=20 issue may be accessed at _http://galatearesurrection6.blogspot.com_=20 (http://galatearesurrection6.blogspot.com/) =20 Information on sending review copies and submitting reviews is available in= =20 Galatea's Purse at _http://grarchives.blogspot.com_=20 (http://grarchives.blogspot.com/) Review submission deadline for the next=20= issue is Aug. 5, 2007. =20 (Please note, too, our special section "From Offline to Online" which repri= nts=20 poetry reviews first published by print magazines or now-defunct websites s= o=20 that they are not yet online.) Galatea is an all-volunteer operation, so THANK YOU so much to the voluntee= r=20 reviewers! For convenience, this issue's Table of Contents is replicated below. =20 Happy Reading, Eileen Tabios =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CONTENTS EDITOR'S INTRODUCTION By Eileen Tabios NEW REVIEWS=20 Brenda Iijima reviews CONCORDANCE by Mei-mei Berssenbruge with art by Kiki=20 Smith =20 J.O. LeClerc reviews LUNCH POEMS by Frank O'Hara=20 John Bloomberg-Rissman reviews INSTAN by Cecilia Vicuna=20 Monica Fawn reviews CHANCE by Daniel Becker=20 James Owens reviews BORN IN UTOPIA: AN ANTHOLOGY OF MODERN AND CONTEMPORARY= =20 ROMANIAN POETRY, Edited by Carmen Firan and Paul Doru Mugur with Edward=20 Foster=20 Tim Peterson reviews NO APPOINTMENT NECESSARY by Thomas Fink=20 Andrea Baker reviews NECESSARY STRANGER by Graham Foust=20 Theresa Tensuan reviews UPROCK HEADSPIN SCRAMBLE AND DIVE and AMERICAN=20 KUNDIMAN by Patrick Rosal=20 Tyrone Williams reviews NEGATIVITY by Jocelyn Saidenberg =20 Ivy Alvarez reviews UNBOUND & BRANDED by Christine Stewart-Nu=F1ez Eileen Tabios reviews POET'S BOOKSHELF: CONTEMPORARY POETS ON BOOKS THAT=20 SHAPED THEIR ART Edited by Peter Davis=20 Chris Pusateri reviews PICTURE OF THE BASKET by Sarah Mangold and NEW =20 COURIERS by Dana Ward=20 Eileen Tabios-and Denise Levertov-review IN A DYBBUK'S RAINCOAT: COLLECTED=20 POEMS BY BERT MEYERS Edited by Morton Marcus and Daniel Meyers=20 Patrick James Dunagan reviews ABSURD GOOD NEWS by Julien Poirier=20 William Allegrezza reviews EMPTIED OF ALL SHIPS by Stacy Szymaszek=20 Alexander Dickow reviews THE BIRD HOVERER by Aaron Belz=20 Thomas Fink reviews I'M THE MAN WHO LOVES YOU by Amy King=20 Lisa Factora-Borders reviews A SLICE OF CHERRY PIE Edited by Ivy Alvarez=20 Alexander Dickow reviews FLOWERS OF BAD: A FALSE TRANSLATION OF CHARLES=20 BAUDELAIRE'S LES FLEURS DU MAL by David Cameron =20 Eileen Tabios reviews WALKING THEORY by Stephen Vincent =20 Celia Homesley reviews ORIGINAL GREEN by Patricia Carlin =20 Eileen Tabios reviews THE IMMACULATE AUTOPSY by Todd Melicker =20 John Bloomberg-Rissman reviews BRAIDED RIVER: NEW AND SELECTED POEMS =20 1965-2005 and GUESTS OF SPACE by Anselm Hollo=20 Willilam Allegrezza reviews WATCHWORD by William Fuller=20 Monica Fawn reviews BETWEEN THE ROOM AND THE CITY by Erica Bernheim=20 Eileen Tabios reviews FORTY-FIVE by Frieda Hughes=20 Laurel Johnson reviews SKIRT FULL OF BLACK by Sun Yung Shin=20 Pamela Hart reviews CASE SENSITIVE by Kate Greenstreet=20 Eileen Tabios reviews THE JUROR by George Dawes Green=20 John Bloomberg-Rissman reviews A STRANGE ARRANGEMENT: NEW AND SELECTED POEM= S=20 by C.J. Allen=20 Frank Gampietro reviews THE HUMBLE TRAVELOGUES OF MR. IAN WORTHINGTON=20 (WRITTEN FROM LAND AND SEA) by Sandra Simonds=20 Derek Motion reviews PEEL ME A ZIBIBBO by Pam Brown=20 Ernesto Priego reviews MORTAL by Ivy Alvarez =20 Jeannine Hall Gailey reviews MORTAL by Ivy Alvarez=20 Eileen Tabios reviews WHAT'S THE MATTER by Jordan Stempleman=20 Addie Tsai reviews THE POETRY OF ROBERT FROST: THE COLLECTED POEMS, COMPLET= E=20 AND UNABRIDGED Edited by Edward Connery, COLLECTED POEMS 1948-1984 by Dere= k=20 Walcott, and WHAT THE TWILIGHT SAYS: ESSAYS BY DEREK WALCOTT=20 Eileen Tabios reviews LITTLE WAR MACHINE by M Sarki =20 Kristin Berkey-Abbott reviews BECOMING THE VILLAINESS by Jeannine Hall=20 Gailey=20 Ivy Alvarez reviews from A BANNER YEAR by Kate Colby Eileen Tabios reviews PARTS OF THE JOURNAL: NIGHT by Richard Lopez=20 Julie R. Enszer reviews FALLING INTO VELAZQUEZ by Mary Kaiser=20 William A. Sylvester reviews SOMEHOW by Burt Kimmelman =20 Eileen Tabios reviews POETRY DAILY ESSENTIALS 2007 Edited by Diane Boller=20 and Don Selby=20 Julie R. Enszer reviews THE GREAT CANOPY by Paula Goldman=20 Fionna Donney Simmonds reviews THE TAR PIT DIATOMS by Sandra Simonds, OTAGE= S=20 by John Bloomberg-Rissman, and ISHMAEL AMONG THE BUSHES by William=20 Allegrezza=20 Rebecca Mabanglo-Mayor reviews KOOL LOGIC: LA LOGICA KOOL by Urayoan Noel =20 Laurel Johnson reviews WHITHER NONSTOPPING by Harriet Zinnes =20 Mark Young reviews THE BEAUTIFUL DAYS by A.B. Spellman =20 Sandy McIntosh reviews SAINTS OF HYSTERIA, A HALF-CENTURY OF COLLABORATIVE=20 AMERICAN POETRY, Edited by Denise Duhamel, Maureen Seaton, and David Trinid= ad=20 Appendix Article to Review of SAINTS OF HYSTERIA: "Filmmaking with Norman=20 Mailer and Ilya Bolotowsky" by Sandy McIntosh =20 FEATURE ARTICLES=20 Nicholas Manning on "A Worldly Country by Young Up-And-Comer John Ashbery " "'The Hairy Caterpillar': An Exploration of Image" by Addie Tsai=20 FROM OFFLINE TO ONLINE: REPRINTED REVIEWS=20 Joyelle McSweeney reviews LILYFOIL + 3 and CHANTRY by Elizabeth Treadwell=20 Craig Perez reviews COMPOSITE. DIPLOMACY. by Padcha Tuntha-Obas=20 Thomas Fink reviews THE AFTER-DEATH HISTORY OF MY MOTHER by Sandy McIntosh=20 Eileen Tabios reviews CORNUCOPIA by Jukka-Pekka Kervinen=20 BACK COVER =20 Self-Explanatory =20 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com= . ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 00:38:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: Disarming the teaching of history in the Middle East In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit thank you for this! I want to read it in detail. much needed! On 5/18/07 9:57 PM, "Jim Andrews" wrote: > From "Can We Talk?" by Eric Alterman at > http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070604/alterman > > "The difficulty of solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict stems from more > sources than one can comfortably count, but surely one of the most > significant is our inability even to discuss it. The emotional intensity of > so many people's investment in their own self-justifying story line censors > the effects of any potentially upsetting fact." > . > . > . > . > "As it happens two professors, Sami Adwan of Bethlehem University and Dan > Bar-On of Ben-Gurion University, are trying to address exactly this problem > under the aegis of the Peace Research Institute in the Middle East ( > http://vispo.com/PRIME/leohn.htm ). Called "Learning Each Other's Historical > Narrative," their project aims to develop parallel histories of the Israelis > and Palestinians, translate them into Hebrew and Arabic and train teams of > teachers and historians to teach in the classroom. If we are ever to have > any real hope of solving the Israel/Palestine crisis, then surely this is > the place to begin." > > ja ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 20:36:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: Re: Rush 2 Press? Ron Swegman... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CA---- Wow, I think you you mean another Chris---but it's good to get this info from the old stromping ground. I haven't seen Ron for years; he was (and I'm sure still is) great (and I don't even think I heard him with banjo...) Chris On May 20, 2007, at 7:48 PM, CA Conrad wrote: > Chris, yes Ron's press still exists, and he > still lives in Philadelphia. Just saw him a > couple of days ago. His e-mail address > is rush2press@yahoo.com > > He has a book of his own that came out > last year titled PHILADELPHIA ON THE FLY: > TALES OF AN URBAN ANGLER > > His passion for Philadelphia is one I share, > though in his book it's for riding his bike > along the rivers and fishing. You ever come > to Philly you should ask Ron to play you a > song on his bango, he's a natural! > > CAConrad > http://PhillySound.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:01:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Fieled Subject: Book Review: Amy King: Antidotes for an Alibi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Along with: Anne Boyer, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, Wayne Thiebaud, George Brett, Marcel Proust, Jeremy Irons and Netflix on Stoning the Devil: http://www.adamfieled.blogspot.com New collaborations w Andrew Lundwall ("Funtime"): http://www.andrewlundwall.blogspot.com Peace Out, Ad --------------------------------- You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:52:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Kelleher Subject: Literary Buffalo E-Newsletter 5.21.07-5.27.07 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LITERARY BUFFALO 5.21.07-5.27.07 LAST CHANCE TO WIN THE LITERARY TRIP OF A LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP RAFFLE=21 DRAWING IS FRIDAY. YOU CAN SIGN UP UNTIL THE MOMENT WE MAKE THE DRAWING. BUY AS MANY MEMBERSHIPS FOR AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU LIKE AND KEEP THE TICKETS= FOR YOURSELF=21 JOIN JUST BUFFALO TODAY=21 DETAILS FOLLOW THE EVENT LISTINGS BELOW. LITERARY BUFFALO IN THE NEWS Anne Reed on the Big Read in Artvoice http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n20/what_are_you_reading_this_month Buffalo Native Lucille Clifton wins Lily Prize, by Peter Conners in Artvoic= e http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n20/lucille_clifton_wins_2007_ruth_lilly_poetr= y_prize Flash Fiction by Eric Payne in Artvoice http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n20/flash_fiction THE BIG READ IS IN ITS FINAL WEEK=21 All of Buffalo is reading and talking about Zora Neale Hurston's novel, The= ir Eyes Were Watching God. Events will take place around the city during the month of May. Buy a copy = at Talking Leaves...Books. Visit http://www.justbuffalo.org/events/bigread.shtml for a complete schedu= le. See weekly schedule below for a list of this week's Big Read Events. READINGS THIS WEEK Unless otherwise indicated, all readings are free and open to the public. JUST ADDED: CANADA'S FIRST POET LAUREATE, GEORGE BOWERING, TO READ AT TALKI= NG LEAVES, MAY 31 - SEE OUR WEBSITE FOR DETAILS 05.21.07 THE BIG READ A Soulful Discussion of, Their Eyes Were Watching God Monday, May 21, 7 p.m. African American Cultural Center_Paul Robeson Theater_350 Masten Avenue, Bu= ffalo__Join Paulette Harris, Mary Craig, and friends for a relaxed open for= um with refreshments and discussion about the book. 05.25.07 THE BIG READ Telling The Stories of African American Women's Lives: A Panel Discussion Friday, May 25, 7 p.m. Hallwallls Cinema at the Church 341 Delaware Avenue, Buffalo Featured Panelists: Lucy Anne Hurston, niece of Zora Neal Hurston, author of Speak, So You Can = Speak Again: The Life of Zora Neale Hurston Alexis De Veaux, Professor of Women's Studies, SUNY at Buffalo and author o= f Warrior Poet: The Life of Audre Lorde Lorna Hill, Producer of WNED's forthcoming =22Uncrowned Queens=22 program a= nd director of Ujima Theatre Company RECURRING LITERARY EVENTS JUST BUFFALO WRITER'S CRITIQUE GROUP Members of Just Buffalo are welcome to attend a free, bi-monthly writer cri= tique group in CEPA's Flux Gallery on the first floor of the historic Marke= t Arcade Building across the street from Shea's. 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We have recently add= ed the ability to join online by paying with a credit card through PayPal. = Simply click on the membership level at which you would like to join, log = in (or create a PayPal account using your Visa/Amex/Mastercard/Discover), a= nd voil=E1, you will find yourself in literary heaven. For more info, or t= o join now, go to our website: http://www.justbuffalo.org/membership/index.shtml UNSUBSCRIBE If you would like to unsubscribe from this list, just say so and you will b= e immediately removed. _______________________________ Michael Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center Market Arcade 617 Main St., Ste. 202A Buffalo, NY 14203 716.832.5400 716.270.0184 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk=40justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:11:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: the apart. 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after i sentiment... all us joel that then. ann or us all first first ann my to to first my tried and succeed tried tried and i until succeed succeed was completely i impotent i hysteric her; and i completely parents us parents insecure her remember yelling up. finally up. to her yelling remember me a fear her to i contamination contamination a remember the another. another. contamina- tion the another. terrible. was by by terrible. at written was was first everything her written at apart. the apart. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:18:42 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: North-4 Text-2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable North-4 Text-2 http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/North/North-4/text-2.htm Introduction: http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/North/Intro.htm Notes:=20 Designed for screen resolution: 1024x768. Text size: Medium. Monitor: = 17" or larger. MS Explorer preferred.=20 Paratext boxes opened by holding cursor over words. This is text #17 of a projected 35.=20 -Joel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:44:48 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: This Friday -- SHOCKLEY, OAKES, and PARKER In-Reply-To: <69523.65664.qm@web54502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MiPOesias presents *** EVIE SHOCKLEY * KAYA OAKES * KARL PARKER *** Friday, May 25, 2007 7:00 PM Stain Bar 766 Grand Street Brooklyn, New York 11211 ~~~~ EVIE SHOCKLEY is the author of two poetry collections: a half-red sea (2006) and The Gorgon Goddess (2001), both with Carolina Wren Press. Her work appears as well in numerous journals and anthologies. A Cave Canem fellow and the recipient of a residency at Hedgebrook retreat center for women writers, Shockley teaches African American literature and creative writing at Rutgers University, New Brunswick. http://www.mipoesias.com/EVIESHOCKLEYISSUE/editorial.html KAYA OAKES’ collection of poetry, Telegraph, was the recipient of the Transcontinental Poetry Prize (editor’s choice) from Pavement Saw Press. Her poems have previously appeared in Volt, Conduit, Spinning Jenny, Shampoo, and numerous other publications. She teaches writing at the University of California, Berkeley, and is the poetry editor and senior editor of Kitchen Sink Magazine. She also hosts Telegraph Stories, a quarterly creative nonfiction and music series. Her website is http://www.oakestown.org. http://www.mipoesias.com/Poetry/oakes_kaya.html KARL PARKER teaches literature and creative writing at Hobart & William Smith Colleges, in lacustrine Geneva, NY. His poems have appeared in numerous journals, such as Fence, Seneca Review, MiPOesias, and No Tell Motel. He has published a chapbook, HARMSTORM, with Lame House Press. http://www.mipoesias.com/Volume19Issue2/parkerinterview.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ STAIN BAR 766 Grand Street Brooklyn , NY 11211 (L train to Grand Street Stop, walk 1 block west) 718/387-7840 http://www.stainbar.com/ ~~~~~~~~ Hope to see you there! Amy King MiPO Host http://www.mipoesias.com ~~~ MAP --> http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/169889/ --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! 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Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:48:05 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Matt Henriksen Subject: Cannibal & Cannibal Chapbook Series MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cannibal has released= An aesthetic definition cannot define the huger.=0A=0ACannibal has released= the second printing of Jane Gregory's debut chapbook, The Second Is Thirst= . See the cover image and read a poem from the book at the Cannibal blog: = flesheatingpoems.blogspot.com. =0A=0AWe also have about thirty remaining c= opies of Cannibal Issue Two, which features poems from Hadara Bar-Nadav, Je= n Bervin, Julia Cohen, John Coletti, Christopher=0AEaton, Landis Everson, K= aren Garthe, Daniela Gesundheit, Johannes=0AG=F6ransson, Kate Greenstreet, = Jane Gregory, Shafer Hall, Janet Holmes,=0ADan Hoy, Amy King, Donna Kuhn, M= ark Lamoureux, Kristi Maxwell, Farid=0AMatuk, Ben Mazer, Jess Mynes, Sawako= Nakayasu, Eugene Ostashevsky, Arlo=0AQuint, Chris Salerno, Mary Ann Samyn,= Frank Sherlock, Stacy Szymaszek,=0AMaureen Thorson, Joshua Marie Wilkinson= , Jake Adam York & Alex=0AYoung.=0A=0AWe will soon release Dustin Williamso= n's Exhausted Grunts and reissue Shannon Jonas' Compathy.=0A=0AThanks for y= our support.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A______________________________________= ______________________________________________=0AMoody friends. Drama queen= s. 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