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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:48:07 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: event for tuli kupferberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry this event is full ignore the part aout you can read but please come as an audience member if ya can On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:40:25 +0530 steve dalachinsky writes: > Dear All, > Please come to the reading/event for Tuli. Should be lots of fun, > interesting, joyous, kind of like Tuli, right. We have a full roster > of > people reading/performing so you should plan to be on stage for > approximately ten minutes. The work you present should either be > something created by Tuli, or inspired by/related to him. > > > The event is at The Bowery Poetry Club ( 308 Bowery) on Saturday, > March > 6th, from 8 PM until 11 PM. Admission is $10, which will go to Tuli > to > assist with his medical expenses. As there are other bookings both > prior > to and following, we need to run a tight ship. > There is a facebook page publicizing the event, along with flyers > around > town. In addition, I've contacted The Voice, The Villager, Time Out, > The > NY Post, The NY Times, and several other media outlets. The club > will be > filled, we want to put on a good show, one which will honor Tuli. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:35:10 -0800 steve russell > > writes: > > ... since I lack the proper credentials to enter into the > vanguard > > chambers of Ron Sillman's mind, and since I'm working on a > borrowed > > computer, my blog time is nearly nil ... > > > > perhaps Sillman's post was simply about the workings of American > > poetry. > > had nothing to do with Beckett. > > still, dramatic monologues are sort of ... > > i mean, Seasons in Hell is more or less... > > > > ... of course, as chief curator at the bureau of ill-advised > verbs, > > I > > could have said that since Beckett, all contemporary writings > SEEM > > little more than a hopeless quest ... having neglected to say > > Seems, > > having said what i said, it seems that I'm 1st in line for a > > promotion > > due to the very thing I did say. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: steve russell > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 3:23:25 PM > > Subject: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > > > ... or a dramatic monologue on video or film. That Beckett thing > > with a mouth. That singular grotesque thing that's mouthing words > on > > film. What's the problem with dramatic monologues? If I knew the > > rationale ... Sillman's point of view, but it seems little more > than > > ... o.k. ... it's his aesthetic ... but if the guy has a problem > > with dramatic monologues he's giving the finger to Beckett and > > that's as close to blasphemy as one can get in my stern book of > > principles. > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: steve russell > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 2:02:24 PM > > Subject: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > > > ... or say I agree with Sillman. I'll at least consider Lowell a > > minor talent rather than a gifted, though priveleged (pity the > > ruling class) casuality of his dopey era. > > > > But compared to Beckett, who is this Sillman? Better still, > > consider the quaint notion of free will ... type ... type ... > > > > Compared to Beckett, Sillman, at best, is minor. Compared to the > > writings of Samuel Beckett, most, if not all so-called innovation > ( > > mid 20th century lit ... present) seems a hopeless search for > > novelty. Still, as we're > > hurried to say in D.C., why not throw in a little spin? There is > a > > tunnel at the end of the light ... the quest continues ... why > not? > > Vispo ... Christo wraps the Washington Monument in kleenex (HA) > ... > > Jasper John's flag is mistaken for a dart board in a local D.C. > pub > > (Jasper Johns, currently at the National Gallery) ... > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:27:01 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: cris cheek Subject: Lee Ann Brown in Oxford, Ohio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 LEE ANN BROWN reading her poetry Thursday March 4th. Bachelor Reading Room, Bachelor Hall. Miami University, Oxford. Ohio. 8pm. Free. ALL welcome. Lee Ann Brown is a poet and filmmaker. She founded Tender Buttons press in 1989, a press dedicated to publishing experimental women's poetry, with the publication of Bernadette Mayer's Sonnets. Ten years later, in April 1999, her own first full-length collection, Polyverse, appeared from Sun & Moon Press and won the New American Poetry Series Award. Her second book, The Sleep That Changed Everything, came out in 2003 from Wesleyan and secured her recognition as an important American woman poet at the turn of the early Twenty-first century. A renowned workshop leader at the Naropa Institute in Colorado, she is currently an Assistant Professor at St Johns University in New York City. "In the vexed and mainly irrelevant arena of allegiances to teachers and predecessors, Brown has pioneered a refreshing indifference to the rivalries between, say, Beats and New York School poets, or New York School poets and practitioners of projective verse, or for that matter between the language poets and the rest of the world. Collaging her influences from all these groups, collaborating with them, trimming her work with declarations that her attraction's more than textual, she is a central figure to many groups of younger poets. Born in Japan, raised in North Carolina, taking two degrees at the school that shares her name, and settling down in New York, she comes to her rejection of categorization honestly. Among younger poets, her absolute refusal to accept limits on what is permissible has given her something like political power." - Jordan Davis "Pleasure is the subject of Lee Ann Brown's poetry. Pleasure in the craft and anti-craft of poem making. Pleasure in the vocalizing and harmonizing of voice and text--speech and writing. Giddy recombinings. Flirtatious collaborations. Irreverent anagrams." - Eliane Equi "Shout, whisper, and strum these mercurial poems, old-time lyrics, and inventive translations and transpositions. Lee Ann Brown's The Sleep That Changed Everything is a sprung formalist ode to the 'open possibilities' of song." - Charles Bernstein ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:41:50 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: S BECKETT vs. r sillman In-Reply-To: <810090.16087.qm@web52407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear Steve: i noted that you begin with criticizing Silliman's remarks someplace (it wa= sn't indicated precisely where/when on the blog) of dramatic monologue--is = this critique re Browning=2C Pound=2C Lowell??--(i gather from your remarks= it is most definitely the last named--that is involved)--is it a critique = of a specific dramatic monologist or dramatic monologists in general=2C in= the English language=2C to be sure=2C it goes without saying---? i rarely read Silliman's blog=3B my impression is very often that it in its= elf is a long long ongoing extended and if not necessarily completely/alway= s a "dramatic" monologue=2C then most certainly an extended rhetorical mono= logue-- i gather that perhaps the soliloquy is NOT tossed in with the dramatic mono= logue??-- might David Antin be considered a dramatic monologist?--how about the creat= or of Swimming to Cambodia?--sections of Jackson MacLow or Lorine Niedecker= ?--Hannah who saw words?-- there is a great deal of Silliman's blog=2C going by what i have read=2C th= at could be considered basically among the more rhetorical forms of dramati= c monologue-- are stream of consciousness monologues such as molly Bloom's among the dete= sted "dramatic monologues?"-- is a specific definition of dramatic monologue given that is being applied?= -- let me know the particular passages of which you write-- are narrators such as Conrad 's Marlowe types of "dramatic monologists?--" how about the extended solos taken by Jazz and blues=2C rock'n'roll musicia= ns-classical artists---are these form of dramatic monologue? soliloquies?-= - are certain Ballad forms "dramatic monologues?"-- are "criticism" and "reviewing" and "literary memoirs" of the Silliman vari= ety not so much providing "critical=2C essay=2C researched theorizing=2C et= c" thinking=2C but instead providing the reader with a form of rhetorical d= ramatic monologue with intentions of being the "final word" rather than the= "opening words=2C" opening that is outwo/ard=2C away from the monologue an= d pointing also away from the author & monologues' themselves towards an ex= panding area of questions=2C of ways of writing=2C of thinking=2C of encour= aging DIY (do-it-yourself) in an inspirational/exemplary manner???-- please note i am not trying to start an argument(s) but hoping to open the = questions and observations up=2C towo/ards more questions and areas--re the= topics-- isn't perhaps Silliman's blog also a form of "confessional writing?"--as wi= th much contemporary avant writing=2C so often concerned with the "confessi= onal" aspect of writing re one's memories=2C life=2C jobs=2C favorite tv sh= ows=2C pastimes=2C book lists=2C etc --with "events and behaviors=2C though= ts=2C attitudes=2C emotions since 9/11???"-- is the blog in itself not a form of confessional writing=2C even when essay= ing to restrict the blog writings to "literary thoughts?"--as these are bou= nd up with the personal=2C the subjective=2C "the 'I'"--?? with ethical jud= gments on Good and Evil-- aren't often things that a particular poet=2C writer=2C is very concerned w= ith making a critique of from a more or less subjective viewpoint--are not = these often simply the projections of aspects of ones' self=2C one's chara= cter=2C thoughts=2C on to others and their thoughts=2C viewpoints?--is this= part of the seemingly endless dividing up of writers=2C poets=2C forms of = writing in to the US Goverment style of "Good vs Evil"? rhetoric and propag= anda--and--what and why is this so important=2C this use of ethics as a for= m of literary criticism=2C in order to show oneself=2C one's group=2C one'= s Brand and Rebranded form of writing as the Good and others' as the Bad an= d the Ugly?-- why is for example "Opacity" in writing so Good--and transparency Bad--whil= e the same person=2C poet may be crying for the Government to be "more tran= sparent?"--esp when the nature of governmental rhetoric and ventures=2C pla= ns are quite distinctly designed often to be of the most opaque nature? in a sense--what could not be more transparent!! then the desire that one's= words be opaque=2C while another's be transparent-- besides monologues=2C aren't there also stereologues=2C digitalogues--linco= ln logs--blogalogs--logologues--egologues--ideologues--langologues--lingolo= gues--jingologues--here alogue there a logue hear alogue their alogue . . .= everyone everywhere alogues . . . lumberjack ologues..the o'logues of the = o'paque alogues . . .onan ologues . . . > Date: Wed=2C 24 Feb 2010 08:23:15 -0800 > From: poet_in_hell@YAHOO.COM > Subject: Re: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > hey=2C i've read Sillman. > admittedly=2C i'm not an authority on Sillman. > that Sillman. > those certain Sillman's that seem to haunt ... >=20 > i said > using a simple rhetorical device > WHO > is Ron Sillman??? >=20 > comparing Ron Sillman > to Samuel Beckett >=20 > (since Sillman thrashed Lowell > it seemed wisest to thrash Sillman > using Beckett > since it's impossible to thrash Beckett > & who could stand such thrashings > by being so compared?) >=20 > ... or=2C as i said earlier -- > to further clarify aforementioned sayings > as well as previous postings ... >=20 > Robert Lowell > (is worth reading) > i remember Lowell > (i remember reading Lowell) >=20 > i've forgotten most of what i've read > i remember mostly > the stuff Lowell imitated > in "Imitatiions." >=20 > i rarely think about Sillman > i've forgotten most Lowellisms >=20 > i'm presently thinking about myself > & my next cigarette >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ > From: sheila black > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Sent: Tue=2C February 23=2C 2010 7:09:45 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman >=20 > Look at the poem "Sunset Debris" by Ron Silliman. That thing drove me cra= zy (not literal) so I wrote a duplicate poem (just for myself) called "Ron = Silliman Writes Poetry Like a Four Year Old Child" (never submitted!). How= ever=2C for you bandwagonners=2C I also wrote a poem called "Ron Silliman i= s my Father" inspired by "The Chinese Notebook" also Ron Silliman. As for = Beckett=2C "Waiting For Godot" need I say more. Maybe "Endgame."=20 > Each of us has a say. S. Black > Sheila Black=20 >=20 > --- On Mon=2C 2/22/10=2C steve russell wrote: >=20 > From: steve russell > Subject: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > To: poetics@listserv.buffalo.edu > Date: Monday=2C February 22=2C 2010=2C 2:23 PM >=20 > ... or a dramatic monologue on video or film. That Beckett thing with a m= outh. That singular grotesque thing that's mouthing words on film. What's t= he problem with dramatic monologues? If I knew the rationale ... Sillman's = point of view=2C but it seems little more than ... o.k. ... it's his aesthe= tic ... but if the guy has a problem with dramatic monologues he's giving t= he finger to Beckett and that's as close to blasphemy as one can get in my = stern book of principles. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: steve russell > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Sent: Sun=2C February 21=2C 2010 2:02:24 PM > Subject: S BECKETT vs. r sillman >=20 > ... or say I agree with Sillman. I'll at least consider Lowell a minor ta= lent rather than a gifted=2C though priveleged (pity the ruling class) casu= ality of his dopey era. >=20 > But compared to Beckett=2C who is this Sillman? Better still=2C consider= the quaint notion of free will ... type ... type ... >=20 > Compared to Beckett=2C Sillman=2C at best=2C is minor. Compared to the wr= itings of Samuel Beckett=2C most=2C if not all so-called innovation ( mid 2= 0th century lit ... present) seems a hopeless search for novelty. Still=2C = as we're > hurried to say in D.C.=2C why not throw in a little spin? There is a > tunnel at the end of the light ... the quest continues ... why not? > Vispo ... Christo wraps the Washington Monument in kleenex (HA) ... Jaspe= r John's flag is mistaken for a dart board in a local D.C. pub (Jasper John= s=2C currently at the National Gallery) ... >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:57:33 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Carrie Etter Subject: Infinite Difference sampler no. 5 Comments: To: British & Irish poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 consists of Frances Presley's "a" from *Alphabet for Alina*: http://carrieetter.blogspot.com . Comments encouraged! ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:48:19 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Camille Martin Subject: Camille Martin's Sonnets Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 I=92m pleased to announce the publication of my second full-length collection of poetry, Sonnets (Shearsman Books / Exeter, U.K.) http://www.shearsman.com/pages/books/catalog/2010/martin.html =93In her second book of poetry, Camille Martin breathes fresh life into th= e sonnet in a collection that is at once edgy and lyrical. The word =91sonn= et=92 comes from =91song,=92 and the musicality of Sonnets is not surprisin= g, given Martin=92s background as a classical musician. These poems demonstrate a virtuosic range of approaches and themes; some ar= e inspired by texts as disparate as nursery rhymes, theories of cognitive s= cience, a history of street names, and her own dream journals. The chorus o= f voices in this collection sing confidently and fluently, proving the sonn= et to be an ideal vehicle for Martin=92s love affair with language.=94 --Shearsman Books =93Sonnets is a delightful body of work. Even though we wander into the obl= ique there is never alienation . . . Incredible poetic craft.=94 --Stride Magazine =93Camille Martin's Sonnets bring the old form into the 21st century. In so= me ways, they are almost traditional; the speaker addresses a not-so-well b= eloved, a figure who occupies a =91fraudulent elsewhere,=92 an elusive love= r or, more likely, another version of the poet herself. Identity theft is a= n issue here where we find ourselves =91comatose in paradise but happy happ= y/feet! is this where I want to go? thrust/into an age unfavourable to bein= g/a guest in one's own home?=92 In these taut, fast-paced, self-aware poems= , the lyric meets 21st century paranoia and sparks fly.=94 --Rae Armantrout =93In the tradition of the chansonnier, this collection of sonnets encompas= ses the sacred and the secular, tracing =91perfection and fear=92 across bo= rders we may never have known were there or near. Martin, the virtuoso, wel= comes the unsafe, perpetually-tested beauty, declaring that =91i=92m so/acc= ustomed to frozen rivulets on rocks/i don=92t see them anymore./now I do.= =92 These sonnets offer a geography of the possible, invoking questions, ch= allenges, songs of praise, and fact. The miracle of these songs is a precis= ion that earns infinity of choice, =91even as we dissolve into the wilderne= ss of my voice.=92 Camille Martin=92s poems shimmer with repetition deft as= sweetest breath mid-spring.=94 --Sheila E. Murphy =93In Camille Martin=92s Sonnets, the tongue knots the next line or drools = with anarchists crouched in pentameter. Here language plays instants=97a ca= reful cadence pounding amok in the metric. In these poems we seep into four= teen layers of syllabic strata, our tonsils swollen and burlesque with visi= ons of seducing Martin=92s fluorescent incisions. Each of Martin=92s syllab= les flood; both in geology and in mouths, and the image of course, that whi= ch tsunamis our own limits of language=97such a pleasure and fear in the dr= ench. Here, in this architecture of flood, gardens and grammar, the visitor= stumbles and mouths disorient in the pleasure of ripe incoherence. What I = want to say is that the language here hoards blooms or grips to the minute = synaptic parasail=92s that still are caught in weather systems when the rea= ding is over. There is magnificence in these poems, a poetic magnetic, prop= elling you to turn the page.=94 --Jordan Scott =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:13:07 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jim Andrews Subject: brodeur's last bat and the glove from above MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it was a game for the pucky ages: canada vs slovakia for a berth in the olympic gold medal game at the vancouver winter olympics of 2010. for the ages? ya sure. ah but the olympics are storied over ages. the canadians dominated the first two periods, winning the first period 2-0 and the second period 1-0 with ryan getzlaf's goal, the 3-0 goal, which would prove to be the winner. the slovakians were to play a third period like few others we have seen in hockey before, with such skill and determination that the outcome of the game was not decided until the final horn blared and the vancouver audience went bonkers, absolutely bonkers with delight over the thrilling 3-2 game and its momentous outcome for the beleagured canuck squad recovered from their earlier loss to the usa and problems against much lower-rated clubs. we learned that marian gaborick, the foxy slovak winger who plays for the new york rangers, makes plays behind his own back that are so clever and deceptive even he himself is caught by surprise. we saw ryan getzlaf, the strongly emerging canadian star, execute the best backhand shot i have ever seen in my life from the slot into the top left corner of the slovakian net--a net manned like a human spider by jaroslav halak, the montreal canadiens's goalie. halak pounced like a hairy, heavily-padded spider around the net. only the truly bona fide unstoppable shots made it past halak. we saw marian hossa, another of the wily slovak wingers, cause two canadians to crash into one another while hossa dipsy doodled past the keystone canadian defenders. but hossa did not score. while the two crumpled canadians dusted themselves off and got up quickly, other canadian defenders mobilized to deal with hossa's magic, and he didn't even get a shot on net, that time. the first two canadian goals, in the first period, were both deflections of screen shots from well inside the blue line. halak stood no chance whatsoever. halak kept the slovakians in the game with brilliant save after brilliant save, while roberto luongo, the canadian netminder, was effective but not challenged to display the arachnoid quicksilver that the slovakian halak dazzled us with time after time. the third period. o the third period and the glove from above. the story of the glove from above. but, first, recall brodeur's last bat. in the qualification round, three games earlier, martin brodeur, the canadian national team's netminder since his brilliant 2002 gold medal performance in salt lake city, perhaps the most celebrated goaltender of all time, faltered in the canadian goal during a 5-3 loss to the usa. early in the game, the usamericans blazed past the center line and dumped the puck in, forcing brodeur to play it with his stick well out of his crease. brodeur batted the moving puck cricket-style, attempting to clear the zone. instead, the puck went directly to a usamerican forward who promptly shot it in the gaping canadian net. this fate was also to befall mikka kiprusof, the finnish goalkeeper, in the finnish-usa game, a startling reenactment of what appears to be a semi-planned play on the part of the usamericans: charge into the zone in the first minutes of the game, shoot the puck in in such a way as to force the goalie to come out and play the puck with the stick while the forwards close in with terrifying deadly speed. the usamericans have unmanned two of the best goalies in the game this way by forcing them to make big mistakes for very big, very bad goals. it rattled brodeur and it rattled kiprusof. more bad goals followed, in both cases, and the two celebrated goalies were chased from the net, ultimately and, very likely, from any further first-string status on their respective national teams. the usa won both those games against the canadians and the finns. the usa had their miracle on ice in the 1980 olympics; the game against finland was their massacre on ice. they clobbered the suddenly hapless and meek finns 6-0 in the first period and cruised to a 6-1 victory. this changing of the guard opened up, in the canadian's case, the opportunity of a lifetime for roberto luongo, the backup canadian goaltender who had not previously played any key games for the biggest canadian national team. luongo did well enough in subsequent games with germany and russia, winning them both, to earn the start against slovakia in the semi-final. and the games were in vancouver, where luongo plays for the vancouver canucks in the nhl. in fact he is captain canuck, the only goalie captain of an nhl team. his rink. his crowd. his country. and what a luongo crowd. they chant "llllouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" every time he makes a save, an awed and appreciative serenade of the canadian netminder every time he does anything. and they wail it with fervent devotion when he performs spectacular, sprawling, game-saving gymnastics on his keister. the glove from above came with 9 seconds left in the game. the score was 3-2 for the canadians against the deadly slovaks who were pressing like vlad's overwhelming forces in upon the canadian net for a goal and a chance to play overtime. luongo's vancouver canuck teammate pavol demitra, now playing for slovakia, was left with the puck at the side of the net with lots of open space to smack the puck into the goal. somehow the puck stayed out and glanced off the crossbar away from the net. several replays showed that luongo sprawled to place his glove quite close to--and above--the spot where demitra shot the puck. this forced demitra to shoot high. did the puck glance off luongo's glove and then the post? commentators said it was so. the glove from above. they said it was so. let us say the faithful do indeed believe unto fervent devotion in vancouver and canada where hockey is not a religion but an obsession totally out of control. perhaps we shall never know. perhaps unseen video will show it more clearly. the mysterious glove from above. did luongo touch the puck at all? was it divine intervention? or a trick of the camera? demitra put his hands over his head and shook his head in astonishment and shock when the play ended, the game was over, and utter joyful pandemonium ensued in the vancouver audience and on the ice for the canadian team. the glove from above trumped the brilliant performance of jaroslav halak despite a questionable first goal against luongo where the clever slovaks squeaked the puck behind luongo's knee via a corner shot from the goal line. it didn't matter. the glove from above hovers in bright mystery as the game-saving brilliance of a night full of brilliant plays by both squads. the glove from above was the exclamation point on a stupendous third-period performance by luongo. yes except for that first goal. he made timely saves. he made quite a few of them in the third period when the slovaks outshot the canadians 12-7 though, over the entire three periods, canada outshot the slovaks 28-21. the crowd, in the third period, when it was still 3-0 for canada, began chanting "we want the usa". but as the slovaks closed in and made it a 3-2 game with 5 minutes left to play, that chant was totally silenced--the canadians were made to worry very deeply about just hanging on for the last 5 minutes. it was a thrilling conclusion to a match played so well it will indeed go down in canadian hockey history as one of the most thrilling, well-played games of all time. there were only 3 penalties in the entire game. the last slovak penalty resulted in getzlaf's winning goal, while the slovaks could not pot one during their one power play opportunity. the luongo legend deepens as canada moves on to play the usa in the gold medal game on sunday, two days from now, in a game that more or less every canadian on the planet will want to watch. and, i imagine, many more millions of usamericans. the usa has simply been perfect thus far in the tournament. they have beaten everyone they've played in regulation time. although they only have 3 olympic veterans on their squad, the young stars have emerged as the most formidable and impressive team in the tournament. they easily defeated canada 5-3 earlier in the tournament. and their goaltender, ryan miller, has been as good as any other. let's hope it's a beaut of a game. ja http://vispo.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:02:51 -0000 Reply-To: Manuel Brito Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Manuel Brito Subject: CFP-SMALL PRESSES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Call for Papers (international conference, Universit=E9 du Maine, Le = Mans, France, 14-16 October 2010) "Poets and Publishers: Circulating Avant-Garde Poetry (1945-2010)" In the second half of the 20th century and the first decade of the 21st, = the material conditions of avant-garde poetry's circulation have come to = the attention of critics. With the development of reader-response = theory, research about the poets' ways of informing the larger public of = their experiments has come to encompass technical considerations, = economic, social and political preoccupations. Small presses-not the = vanity presses of former times-thus became the laboratories of the = publishing world, picking up on the latest avant-garde movements. How do these publishers, and the poets who entrust their works to them, = contribute to poetic innovation in a publishing context marked by = commercial decline of the book and the poem alike? To what extent do = small presses convey aesthetic initiatives that would otherwise remain = "readerless"? Could one talk, along with American poet Barrett Watten of = a "systemic de-totalization" bringing about new configurations of the = poetic landscape into networks and archipelagoes? We are inviting papers that will risk answers to these questions in the = context of a wider reflection on the publishing world, its margins and = its objects, notably poetic texts inspired and shaped by the recent = advances of sociology, philosophy and cultural studies. The aim is a = global assessment of the circulation of avant-garde poetry. 300-word proposals in either English, French or Spanish to H=E9l=E8ne = AJI (Universit=E9 du Maine, France, Helene.Aji@univ-lemans.fr) and = Manuel BRITO (Universidad de La Laguna, Canary Islands, Spain, = mbrito@ull.es) by 31 March 2010. =20 =20 Appel =E0 contributions (colloque international, Universit=E9 du Maine, = Le Mans, France, 14-16 octobre 2010) : "Po=E8tes et =E9diteurs: comment diffuser la po=E9sie d'avant-garde? = (1945-2010)" C'est dans les cinquante derni=E8res ann=E9es du 20e si=E8cle et dans la = premi=E8re d=E9cennie du 21e si=E8cle que les enjeux pratiques li=E9s = =E0 la diffusion de la po=E9sie d'avant-garde ont =E9t=E9 pris en = consid=E9ration. Avec le d=E9veloppement de la th=E9orie de la = r=E9ception, les modalit=E9s par lesquelles les po=E8tes sont en mesure = de faire conna=EEtre leurs travaux et leurs exp=E9rimentations, dans = leurs implications techniques, =E9conomiques, sociales et politiques, = sont devenues l'objet de recherches plus intensives. Les presses =E0 = petit tirage, loin d'=EAtre les presses =E0 compte d'auteur du pass=E9, = ont tent=E9 de s'inscrire dans le paysage =E9ditorial comme les = laboratoires de l'avant-garde. Comment ces =E9diteurs et les po=E8tes qui leur confient leurs ouvres = contribuent-ils =E0 l'essor d'une po=E9sie originale, dans un contexte = =E9ditorial souvent marqu=E9 par un recul commercial du livre et de la = po=E9sie ? Dans quelle mesure ces petites presses se font-elles les = courroies de transmission d'initiatives esth=E9tiques qui resteraient = autrement sans lecteurs? Peut-on aller jusqu'=E0 parler, comme le fait = le po=E8te am=E9ricain Barrett Watten, d'une "d=E9-totalisation = syst=E9mique" aboutissant =E0 une restructuration du paysage po=E9tique = en r=E9seaux et en archipels? Nous invitons les communications qui tenteront d'apporter des = =E9l=E9ments de r=E9ponse =E0 ces questions, dans le cadre d'une = r=E9flexion portant sur le monde de l'=E9dition, ses marges, et ses = objets : des textes po=E9tiques inspir=E9s et inform=E9s par une = connaissance intime des r=E9centes innovations de la sociologie, de la = philosophie, de la linguistique et des =E9tudes culturelle visant une = =E9valuation transnationale des enjeux de la diffusion de la po=E9sie = d'avant-garde. Propositions d'environ 300 mots en fran=E7ais, en anglais ou en = espagnol =E0 H=E9l=E8ne AJI (Universit=E9 du Maine, France, = Helene.Aji@univ-lemans.fr) et Manuel BRITO (Universidad de La Laguna, = Canaries, Espagne, mbrito@ull.es) avant le 31 mars 2010. =20 =20 Solicitud de Ponencias (Congreso Internacional, Universit=E9 du Maine, = Le Mans, France, 14-16 de octubre 2010): "Poetas y Editores: Divulgando la Poes=EDa de Vanguardia (1945-2010)" En la segunda mitad del siglo XX y en la primera d=E9cada del siglo XXI = las condiciones materiales relacionadas con la divulgaci=F3n de la = poes=EDa de vanguardia han atra=EDdo la atenci=F3n de los cr=EDticos. = Con el desarrollo de la teor=EDa cr=EDtica lector-respuesta, la = investigaci=F3n sobre las v=EDas que los poetas utilizan para informar = de sus experimentos al gran p=FAblico ha abarcado consideraciones = t=E9cnicas, econ=F3micas, sociales e incluso preocupaciones pol=EDticas. = Las peque=F1as editoriales-no aquellas que antiguamente exig=EDan a sus = autores pagar sus propios libros-se han convertido en laboratorios del = mundo editorial y han logrado reunir a los =FAltimos movimientos de = vanguardia. =BFC=F3mo contribuyen los editores, y los poetas que les conf=EDan sus = obras, a la innovaci=F3n po=E9tica en un contexto editorial = caracterizado por el declive comercial del libro y de la poes=EDa? = =BFHasta qu=E9 punto las peque=F1as editoriales son capaces de = transmitir iniciativas est=E9ticas que no saldr=EDan a la luz si no = fuera por ellas? =BFSe puede hablar, siguiendo al poeta americano = Barrett Watten, de una "destotalizaci=F3n sist=E9mica" que provocar=EDa = nuevas formas del paisaje po=E9tico convertido en sistemas reticulares y = archipi=E9lagos? Invitamos a que se presenten ponencias que se arriesguen a contestar a = estas preguntas en el contexto de una reflexi=F3n m=E1s amplia sobre el = mundo editorial, sus m=E1rgenes y prop=F3sitos, y especialmente sobre = textos po=E9ticos que se han inspirado o elaborado a partir de los = avances recientes de la sociolog=EDa, la filosof=EDa y los estudios = culturales. El objetivo es una valoraci=F3n global de la divulgaci=F3n = de la poes=EDa de vanguardia. =20 Las propuestas de 300 palabras, tanto en ingl=E9s, franc=E9s como = espa=F1ol, se deben dirigir a H=E9l=E8ne AJI (Universit=E9 du Maine, = Francia, Helene.Aji@univ-lemans.fr) y a Manuel BRITO (Universidad de La = Laguna, Islas Canarias, Espa=F1a, mbrito@ull.es) antes del 31 de marzo = de 2010. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:42:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Douglas Manson Subject: Blake Talk w/Slides this Sunday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Blake Lecture 2: Published Works initial event for a series curated by Eric Gelsinger talk delivered by Douglas Manson with a reading of Blake's work Sunday, February 28. 4:00 p.m. 99 Sutton Street #204, Greenpoint (Brooklyn) in the American Cork Building, please ring the Kevorkian bell for entry Blake is cool because he=92s a workshop for the mind of his readers, whethe= r they be thinkers, poets or painters. His many works in text and design provide a generous supply of ideas for re-thinking artistic practice and performance. He came to full maturity in the midst of multiple revolutions= , the results of which many would claim created our present social ideal of harmony as an enlightenment inheritance. Blake=92s work questions these assumptions at the level of art and poetry. The present lecture will focus on his art: the style, techniques and themes of engravings and books in which he intertwined language and visual design. I will be using two American examples as a way of comparing the kinds of attention viewers and readers have given him in recent decades: the poetry of Gertrude Stein, and the stories and graphic work found in titles published by Marvel Comics fro= m the early 1970s to the early 1980s. Douglas Manson is a freelance academic, writer and micropublisher. In 2004 he took a Ph.D. from U.Buffalo, and soon after started *little scratch pad press* and *Celery Flute: The Kenneth Patchen Newsletter.* He worries when his rice supply is getting low. Otherwise, he likes to make raucous music, fly kites and argue about contemporary definitions of *good love* with his friends in Brooklyn. hope to see you there, Doug =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:26:07 -1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: _13 Ways of Looking at TheBus_ by Gizelle Gajelonia, (NEW chapbook from Tinfish Press!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are proud to announce imminent publication of _13 Ways of Looking at TheBus_, a fresh take on local transportation and modern and contemporary American poetry in English, Pidgin, and Filipino. Details here: http://tinfishpress.com/chapbooks.html Place an order and, while you're at it, take a look at our other offerings of books, chaps, and journal issues. aloha, Susan M. Schultz Tinfish Editor http://tinfisheditor.blogspot.com http://tinfishpress.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:15:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "joey@newmystics.com" Subject: February update at www.newmystics.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed We have a talented and varied group of contributors, both new and previous, at www.newmystics.com this month: Frequent contributor ED BAKER's Hexapoems, a combination of art and poetry. Frequent contributor JEAN-MARIE AVRIL has shared the first installment of his translation of Hirlas's "The King of Terror" New contributors JOHN GARTLAND, RAYMOND NEELY, and FIONA SZE-LORRAIN offer their poetry. New contributor MELISSA SILLITOE shares her short story "Your Eyes First" Artist Alyssa Woodruff shares her fan art on the home page for Joey Madia's Jester-Knight. Visit the links page for partnerships and collaborators both new and old. Please visit our www.newmysticstheatre.com site for information on the social justice plays and bullying workshops that our two theatre companies are currently touring. Visit www.newmysticscommunity.com to create a profile and join artists, writers, filmmakers, and theatre company members on our Community site. Visit newmysticsreviews.blogspot.com to keep up with all the best from the independent press and indy music labels. Over the next 6 months, you will begin to see changes being implemented for the whole New Mystics cyber-family. With the art and literary site, theatre companies in NJ and WV, and a new Center for Arts and Education opening in May/June in WV, we are in the process of making the New Mystics Universe easier to keep up with and navigate, even as we continue to expand and grow. As always, thank you for supporting the well over 100 contributors, collaborators, theatre company members and staff that give so much to help New Mystics fulfill its missions to present the arts in all of their "infinite possibilities"! As always, we encourage artists of all types, especially those with distinct Visions and Voices to contribute. Please visit our Submissions page for more information. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:19:12 +0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dean Brink Subject: Call for papers - Ecocriticism in Asia: Reorienting Modernity, Reclaiming Nature? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends and Colleagues, As ecocriticism is a new and exciting field which you may be interested in, I hope you will consider participating in this conference which will include keynote addresses by many important senior scholars. Please see our Call for Papers below and circulate to associates who might take interest in this conference. Sincerely yours, Dean Brink Assistant Professor/Conference Coordinator English Department Tamkang University 151 Ying-chuan Road Tamsui, Taipei County Taiwan 25137 +886-02-621-5656, x2054 Email: interpoetics@gmail.com - - - The Fifth International Conference on Ecological Discourse December 16-18, 2010 Tamkang University, Taipei County, Taiwan CALL FOR PAPERS Ecocriticism in Asia: Reorienting Modernity, Reclaiming Nature? Deadline for submission of abstracts: March 9, 2010 Response to submissions: April 15, 2010 Contributions are invited for Tamkang University=92s Fifth International Conference on Ecological Discourse. We seek papers that address Asian interests and contexts in terms of diversely contested approaches to =93modernity=94 and =93nature.=94 Papers that are cross-disciplinary in purpose and scope are especially welcome. Such papers would intersect with a broad range of Asian environmental issues and concerns not limited to texts treated by scholars in the arts and humanities, including ecocritical projects and initiatives that intersect with biology, chemistry, economics, government policy, industry and technology, the social sciences, and the natural sciences. The conference aims to be representative of the many arguments emerging in ecocritical discourse, including debates within specialized fields of study as well as larger issues engendered by the crisis of human-caused climate change affecting various places in Asia. In addressing issues of modernity and nature in Asia, what can we gain by reassessing the conceptual tools=97in the arts, literature and philosophy=97that have been abandoned during centuries of colonialism and modernization? Are there places and communities in Asia that provide new models for development that could release the earth from the expanding hegemony of global capital? TOPICS We welcome proposals which reconsider modernity and nature in ecocriticism from an Asian-centered perspective. Possible topics include (but are not limited to) the following: - ecocritical readings of Asian art, literature and film - literature, philosophy and religion and Asian ecologies - ecofeminism in Asia - ecology (Asian ecosystems, invasive species/native species, toxicity, et= c.) - the impact of global warming in Asia - economic and demographic studies addressing climate change, food, and species loss in Asia - animal trafficking and animal rights in Asia - bio/ecocentric public policy and political action in Asia - ecocomposition and writing ecologies - environmental justice/social justice/ecomarxism in Asia - space, place, and globalisation - biosemiotics - ecotourism and ecopornography in Asia - posthumanist readings of Asian art, literature and film including the applications of cyborg theory. The conference is organized by the English Department at Tamkang University with the support of the Chemistry Department and the recently formed Association of the Study of Literature and Environment of Taiwan (ASLE-Taiwan). ABSTRACT SUBMISSIONS Proposals for individual papers and proposals for panels are both invited. Presenters are asked to prepare 20-minute (3,000-word) papers. Please submit your abstract in English or Mandarin (approx. 200 words). Send submissions in Mandarin or English to the organizing committee: miracle@mail.tku.edu.tw. Proposals in languages other than English will be considered if we can group these together in one or more panels. ACCOMMODATIONS The historical town of Danshui is one of Taiwan=92s most famous tourist destinations, known for its winding brick roads and sunsets at the mouth of the Danshui River. The campus is just forty minutes by taxi from the international airport. OTHER Costs of registration and accommodation: these will be announced in April 2010. (Funding is currently being sought for bursaries to provide for some of these costs.) Excursions: two optional, one-day excursions. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:57:48 -0700 Reply-To: derek beaulieu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: derek beaulieu Subject: new from NO press: Peter Jaeger's SEMINAR XVII Comments: To: UBU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NO press is pleased to announce the publication of=20 Peter Jaeger's SEMINAR XVII 20 pages, sewn binding. published in an edition of 40 copies (20 of which are for sale) $5 each. SEMINAR XVII is based on Lacan's seminar XVII, which has only recently = been published in English for the first time. In this seminar, Lacan = speaks about four discourses (master, university, hysteric, analyst). = The master discourse is the underlying signifier that organizes all the = others, and is taken either as the unified subject "I" or later, as = impersonal bureaucracy. The university discourse bolsters up this sense = of "I." The hysteric begins to question the master, and the analyst = "coughs up" a new master signifier, in opposition to the"I."=20 for more information, or to order copies, please email: derek beaulieu derek@housepress.ca http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/beaulieu/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:35:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Asian Cha Subject: Cha: An Asian Literary Journal #10 is HERE. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain http://www.asiancha.com We are very pleased to announce that the February 2010 issue of Cha has n= ow=20 been launched. We would like to thank Gillian Sze, our first ever female = guest=20 editor, for reading the submissions with us and helping put the issue tog= ether.=20 We would also like to thank our Reviews Editor, Eddie Tay, who has brough= t us=20 a fine selection of reviews. The issue features a new editorial by Jeff Z= roback=20 titled "Thoughts of Trains; Trains of Thought".=20 The following writers/artists have generously allowed us to showcase thei= r=20 work:=20 Poetry: Anuradha Vijayakrishnan, Elizabeth Schultz, Daniel Bowman Jr.,=20= Michael O'Sullivan, Lucy Lu, Ocean Vuong, Mariejoy San Buenaventura, Papa= =20 Osmubal, Jean YeoJin Sung, Rocco de Giacomo, Selina Libi Bjorlie, Chris T= se,=20 Angela Eun Ji Koh, Greg Santos, Lyn Lifshin, Marc Vincenz, Wena Poon and=20= Richard Luftig=20 Fiction: Kimarlee Nguyen and Alka Khushalani Photography & art: Steven Digman, Roberutsu (Cover artist), Papa Osmu= bal=20 and Rohith Sundararaman Reviews: Katherine Foster, Martin Alexander, Moira Moody, Hilary Chan Tsz= - Shan, Michael Tsang, Alice Tsay and Phoebe Tsang who review the following= =20 books: Wena Poon's The Proper Care of Foxes, Felix Cheong's Sudden in=20 Youth: New and Selected Poems, O Thiam Chin's Never Been Better, John=20 Biggs' Tin Dragons, Gillian Bickley's China Suite and Other Poems, Rocco = de=20 Giacomo's Ten Thousand Miles between Us, C. P. Stewart's Taking it In, Th= e=20 Chicago-Kunming Poetry Group's on the no road way to tomorrow, Vera=20 Schwarcz's Brief Rest in the Garden of Flourishing Grace: Poems of=20 Remembrance and Loss by the Manchu Prince Yihuan, Kim Cheng Boey's=20 Between Stations and Kim Echlin's The Disappeared "Lost Teas": Ken Chau Our eleventh issue is due out in May/June 2010. Poet Sam Byfield and writ= er=20 E.K. Entrada will lend us their expertise in the role of guest poetry edi= tor and=20 guest fiction editor respectively. If you are interested in having your w= ork=20 considered for publication in Cha, please read our submission guidelines = for=20 details. We hope you enjoy the new issue. Tammy Ho Lai-Ming & Jeff Zroback Cha http://www.asiancha.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:55:27 -0500 Reply-To: clwnwr@earthlink.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bob Heman Subject: Katrinka Moore, Bob Heman, Moira T. Smith - tuesday at 6:00 at Cornelia St. Cafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII just a reminder - this tuesday, March 2, at 6:00 pm, Katrinka Moore, Bob Heman, and Moira T. Smith will be joining together at the Cornelia St. Cafe to celebrate Katrinka's new book, Thief, just published by BlazeVOX Books - please come and join us for a memorable event - all the information follows (the Cornelia St. Cafe is located at 29 Cornelia St., between Bleecker and West 4th, just around the corner from the West 4th St. A, C, E, B, D, and F station) Come celebrate Thief with a reading/performance by Katrinka Moore, Bob Heman & Moira T. Smith at Cornelia St. Café 29 Cornelia St., NYC http://www.corneliastreetcafe.com/home.asp Tuesday, March 2, 6:00 pm Katrinka Moore’s book Thief was recently released by BlazeVOX [books]. She is a member of the One O’clock Poets, which published an anthology, The Full Green Hour, in 2008. Moore’s chapbook, This is Not a Story, won the New Women’s Voices prize and was published by Finishing Line Press in 2003. Bob Heman has edited CLWN WR and its predecessor Clown War since 1971. His newest collection, Demographics, or, The Hats They Are Allowed to Wear, is available as a free download from Quale Press. His collages have been exhibited recently in group shows in Chelsea, D.U.M.B.O, and Williamsburg. Moira T. Smith is a singer/song-writer/poet/bookworm/show-off who likes to get all dressed up and confront herself before a semi-captive audience. (That could be YOU!) She is "hilarious, disturbing, tender and mojo-rific!", or so says her deeply biased, but not inaccurate ego. Come on down and decide for yourself! Bob Heman clwnwr@earthlink.net ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:04:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: CA Conrad Subject: Poets at The Poet=?windows-1252?Q?=92s_?= Salon The Rainbow Book Fair MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Poets at The Poet=92s Salon The Rainbow Book Fair Saturday March 27th 11:30am-5:00pm CUNY Graduate Center Fifth Avenue and 34th Street NYC FREE ! OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ! COME HEAR ! a LGBTQ poetry reading series coordinated/hosted by Nathaniel A. Siegel & Regie Cabico present POETS: Ana Bozicevic Julian Brolaski Steven Cordova Mina Pam Dick Jameson Fitzpatrick David Garrett Stephanie Gray Scott Hightower Paul Foster Johnson Saeed Jones Amy King Bill Kushner Jee Leong Koh Gregory Laynor Timothy Liu Douglas A. Martin David Messineo Debrah Morkun Angelo Nikolopoulos Tim Peterson (Trace) Elizabeth Reddin Vittoriar repetto Jason Roush Moonshine Shorey Richard Tayson Vega Ronaldo V. Wilson Emanuel Xavier Rachel Zolf ALL reading their own poetry ! Also featuring poems from =93persistent voices Poetry By Writers Lost to AIDS=94 edited by Philip Clark & David Groff, presented by Philip Clark Poets books available for purchase ! additional poets to be announced (list as of 2/26/2010) --=20 PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:11:08 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Eric Elshtain Subject: New Beard of Bees Chapbook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe they are cheaper by the dozen... vide: The Twelve Husbands of Citizen Jane, at http://www.beardofbees.com/olszewska.html Best, Eric Elshtain Editor Beard of Bees Press http://www.beardofbees.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:43:01 -0300 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Regina Pinto Subject: Project AlphaAlpha has now 365 letters A on line! In-Reply-To: <37BC2755858349D49A2453C538692843@ReginaPintoPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PROJECT ALPHaALPHA: The project is almost complete! We have already 365 letters A on line one A for each day of the year! Next week I will send you the index page and the complete AlphaAlpha! THANK YOU VERY MUCH! NEW PAGES: http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_quarone.html =C2=A0(Paulo Aquarone - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/steve_d_a_lachinsky.html (Steve Dalachinsky - US= A) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/steve_d_a_lachinsky2.html (Steve Dalachinsky - U= SA) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/keppler.html (Roberto Keppler - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_yuko_otomo (Yuko Otomo - USA) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/cinco.html (Regina Pinto - Brazil) COMING SOON: THE LEAP YEAR> Joes=C3=A9r Alvarez - Brazil WHICH MORE PAGES ARE READY? http://arteonline.arq.br/a/bruce_a_ndrews.html (Bruce Andrews - USA) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_ndrews.html (Jim Andrews - Canada) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_randa_yto.html (Isabel Aranda - YTO - Chile) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/i_a_rvers.html (Isabelle Arvers - France) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/b_a_bel.html =C2=A0(babel - Canada & UK) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/ver_a_bighetti.html (Vera Bighetti - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/bruno_a.html =C2=A0(Bruno - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/p_a_trick_burgaud.html (Patrick Burgaud - France= ) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/p_a_trick_burgaud1.html (Patrick Burgaud - Franc= e) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_de_mar_josely.html (Josely Carvalho - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/m_a_rtha_deed.html =C2=A0(Martha Deed - USA) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/r_fr_a_nco.html (Rodolfo Franco - Brazil / Spain= ) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/fr_a_zao.html (Marcelo Fraz=C4=83o - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/muriel_freg_a.html (Muriel Frega - Argentina) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/lis_a_hutton.html (Lisa Hutton - USA) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/s_a_tu.html (Satu KaikKonen - Finland) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/m_a_j_a.html =C2=A0(Maja Kalogera - Croacia) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/m_a_nik.html =C2=A0(Manik - Serbia) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/neufeldt_a.html (Brigitte Neufeudt - Germany) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/niss_a.html (Millie Niss - USA) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/p_a_din.html (Clemente Pad=C3=ADn - Uruguay) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/m_a_rgaret_penfold.html (Margaret Penfold - UK) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/edw_a_rd_picot.html (Edward Picot - UK) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/is_a_bel_saij.html (Isabel Saij - France) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/is_a_bel_saij2.html (Isabel Saij - France) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_sechi.html (Jos=C3=A9 Roberto Sechi - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/reiner_a.html (Reiner Strasser - Germany) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_jtwine.html (Jurges Trautwein - USA) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/myron_turner_a.html (Myron Turner - Canada) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/sus_a_n_turner.html (Susan Turner - Canada) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/villel_a.html (Paulo Villela - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_zenon.html (Miguel Jimenez/Zenon - Spain) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/a_raceli_zunig_a.html (Araceli Zu=C5=84iga- Mexi= co) My OWN PAGES: http://arteonline.arq.br/a/um.html (Regina Pinto - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/dois.html (Regina Pinto - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/tres.html (Regina Pinto - Brazil) http://arteonline.arq.br/a/quatro.html (Regina Pinto- Brazil) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Regina Pinto aka pintor http://arteonline.arq.br http://pintor.tumblr.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:26:45 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Adam Fieled Subject: Dune Rose: The Poems of Susan Wallack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Susan Wallack, my mother, is an excellent, well-rounded, widely published p= oet. I am collecting her best poems on a blog meant to be an archive of her= work. =A0 The blog is called Dune Rose: The Poems of Susan Wallack, and it can be loc= ated here: =A0 http://www.susanwallack.blogspot.com =A0 Thanks for reading, =A0=A0=A0 Adam Fieled=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 afiel= ed@yahoo.com=A0=A0 =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:12:29 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Carrie Etter Subject: Infinite Difference sampler no. 6 Comments: To: British & Irish poets , pussipo@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This time it's Claire Crowther's "Young Woman with Scythe": http://carrieetter.blogspot.com . I hope you enjoy it. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:26:08 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bill Berkson Subject: Nowheremag.org Comments: To: Automatic digest processor In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Nowhere: travel stories & notebooks by Bill Berkson, Alan Bernheimer, Larry Fagin et alia www. nowheremag.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:02:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Steve Clay Subject: Selections from the Library of Robert Creeley of Interest to Literary and Art Collections Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Announcing for sale: Selections from Robert Creeley's Library of = Interest to Literary and Art Collections List 3 (M-Z) Granary Books is pleased to offer for sale, as individual items, a rich = and compelling selection of pamphlets, manuscripts, correspondence and = related materials from the library of preeminent American poet Robert = Creeley (1926-2005). Robert Creeley made a practice of inserting = relevant letters, manuscripts, clippings, photographs and ephemera into = his books, many of which also bear significant inscriptions, thus making = his library an important documentary archive occupying a rich site for = research into the poets and poetics of the New American Poetry. The collection will be offered for sale as individual items via a series = of email lists issued over several months. The third list (M-Z) = comprises works from: Michael McClure, Lorine Niedecker, Charles Olson, = Joel Oppenheimer, Kenneth Patchen, Tom Pickard, James Purdy, Ann Quin, = Tom Raworth, Aram Saroyan, Gary Snyder, Jack Spicer, Alexander Trocchi, = Philip Whalen, John Wieners, Jonathan Williams, Douglas Woolf and Louis = Zukofsky. To view the M-Z inventory please go to: http://www.granarybooks.com/pages.php?which_page=3Dcreeley_library_m-z To view the A-Z inventory please go to: http://www.granarybooks.com/pages.php?which_page=3Dcreeley_library_a-z Thank you. Steve Clay Granary Books 168 Mercer St. #2 New York, NY 10012 212 337-9979 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:39:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: CA Conrad Subject: 7 west coast events... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 readings and workshops, details at this link: http://CAConradevents.blogspot.com Looking forward to seeing the west coast poets, as always! CAConrad -- PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:26:38 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: aslongasittakes Subject: Open Call for Visual Poetry: accepting art experiments in the space between viewing and reading. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Below is a call for visual poetry. Thanks, James Sanders VISPO at Eyedrum is a Visual Poetry show to be held at Eyedrum Art & Music Gallery on May 1st - May 15th 2010. The mission of the show is to examine the boundaries of the creative and communicative process by seeking work that combines the literary and visual arts. All forms and approaches to Visual Poetry will be considered. Non-English based work is strongly encouraged. Deadline for submission of work: April 23, 2010 2d/3d work (received ready to display) All sizes of ready to display work are accepted. Digital file submissions accepted (maximum size 8.5x11-exceptions considered) No Entry fee. The show is juried and produced by members of the eyedrum literary committee. Please provide email and any info about yourself and the work provided. Provide title, medium, and any display/handling instructions necessary. Please provide return addressed envelope and any mailing instructions to have work returned. Mail all entries to: Jeff Dahlgren 132 Adair Street, Decatur, GA 30030 Information: eggtoothjeff at yahoo.com details: http://www.pd.org/~eyedrum/calendar/index.php?eventTypeId=4&id=3464&month=5&year=2010 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:56:53 -1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: recent blog posts by Tinfish Editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit # Language Acquisition: _Dictee_ and the "Radhika Bo... # An interview with Adam Aitken # "Grace as chance": teaching notes on elegy # The poetics of rage: cant and Cantos # Walmart University http://tinfisheditor.blogspot.com aloha, Susan M. Schultz ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:29:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: S BECKETT vs. r sillman In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 David, BULL'S EYE! Absolutely breathtaking. Ciao, Murat On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:41 AM, David-Baptiste Chirot < davidbchirot@hotmail.com> wrote: > dear Steve: > > i noted that you begin with criticizing Silliman's remarks someplace (it > wasn't indicated precisely where/when on the blog) of dramatic monologue--is > this critique re Browning, Pound, Lowell??--(i gather from your remarks it > is most definitely the last named--that is involved)--is it a critique of a > specific dramatic monologist or dramatic monologists in general, in the > English language, to be sure, it goes without saying---? > > i rarely read Silliman's blog; my impression is very often that it in > itself is a long long ongoing extended and if not necessarily > completely/always a "dramatic" monologue, then most certainly an extended > rhetorical monologue-- > > i gather that perhaps the soliloquy is NOT tossed in with the dramatic > monologue??-- > > might David Antin be considered a dramatic monologist?--how about the > creator of Swimming to Cambodia?--sections of Jackson MacLow or Lorine > Niedecker?--Hannah who saw words?-- > > there is a great deal of Silliman's blog, going by what i have read, that > could be considered basically among the more rhetorical forms of dramatic > monologue-- > > are stream of consciousness monologues such as molly Bloom's among the > detested "dramatic monologues?"-- > > is a specific definition of dramatic monologue given that is being > applied?-- > let me know the particular passages of which you write-- > > are narrators such as Conrad > 's Marlowe types of "dramatic monologists?--" > > how about the extended solos taken by Jazz and blues, rock'n'roll > musicians-classical artists---are these form of dramatic monologue? > soliloquies?-- > > are certain Ballad forms "dramatic monologues?"-- > > are "criticism" and "reviewing" and "literary memoirs" of the Silliman > variety not so much providing "critical, essay, researched theorizing, etc" > thinking, but instead providing the reader with a form of rhetorical > dramatic monologue with intentions of being the "final word" rather than the > "opening words," opening that is outwo/ard, away from the monologue and > pointing also away from the author & monologues' themselves towards an > expanding area of questions, of ways of writing, of thinking, of encouraging > DIY (do-it-yourself) in an inspirational/exemplary manner???-- > > please note i am not trying to start an argument(s) but hoping to open the > questions and observations up, towo/ards more questions and areas--re the > topics-- > > isn't perhaps Silliman's blog also a form of "confessional writing?"--as > with much contemporary avant writing, so often concerned with the > "confessional" aspect of writing re one's memories, life, jobs, favorite tv > shows, pastimes, book lists, etc --with "events and behaviors, thoughts, > attitudes, emotions since 9/11???"-- > > is the blog in itself not a form of confessional writing, even when > essaying to restrict the blog writings to "literary thoughts?"--as these are > bound up with the personal, the subjective, "the 'I'"--?? with ethical > judgments on Good and Evil-- > > aren't often things that a particular poet, writer, is very concerned with > making a critique of from a more or less subjective viewpoint--are not these > often simply the projections of aspects of ones' self, one's character, > thoughts, on to others and their thoughts, viewpoints?--is this part of the > seemingly endless dividing up of writers, poets, forms of writing in to the > US Goverment style of "Good vs Evil"? rhetoric and propaganda--and--what and > why is this so important, this use of ethics as a form of literary > criticism, in order to show oneself, one's group, one's Brand and Rebranded > form of writing as the Good and others' as the Bad and the Ugly?-- > > why is for example "Opacity" in writing so Good--and transparency > Bad--while the same person, poet may be crying for the Government to be > "more transparent?"--esp when the nature of governmental rhetoric and > ventures, plans are quite distinctly designed often to be of the most opaque > nature? > > in a sense--what could not be more transparent!! then the desire that one's > words be opaque, while another's be transparent-- > > besides monologues, aren't there also stereologues, digitalogues--lincoln > logs--blogalogs--logologues--egologues--ideologues--langologues--lingologues--jingologues--here > alogue there a logue hear alogue their alogue . . . everyone everywhere > alogues . . . lumberjack ologues..the o'logues of the o'paque alogues . . > .onan ologues . . . > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:23:15 -0800 > > From: poet_in_hell@YAHOO.COM > > Subject: Re: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > > > hey, i've read Sillman. > > admittedly, i'm not an authority on Sillman. > > that Sillman. > > those certain Sillman's that seem to haunt ... > > > > i said > > using a simple rhetorical device > > WHO > > is Ron Sillman??? > > > > comparing Ron Sillman > > to Samuel Beckett > > > > (since Sillman thrashed Lowell > > it seemed wisest to thrash Sillman > > using Beckett > > since it's impossible to thrash Beckett > > & who could stand such thrashings > > by being so compared?) > > > > ... or, as i said earlier -- > > to further clarify aforementioned sayings > > as well as previous postings ... > > > > Robert Lowell > > (is worth reading) > > i remember Lowell > > (i remember reading Lowell) > > > > i've forgotten most of what i've read > > i remember mostly > > the stuff Lowell imitated > > in "Imitatiions." > > > > i rarely think about Sillman > > i've forgotten most Lowellisms > > > > i'm presently thinking about myself > > & my next cigarette > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: sheila black > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 7:09:45 AM > > Subject: Re: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > > > Look at the poem "Sunset Debris" by Ron Silliman. That thing drove me > crazy (not literal) so I wrote a duplicate poem (just for myself) called > "Ron Silliman Writes Poetry Like a Four Year Old Child" (never submitted!). > However, for you bandwagonners, I also wrote a poem called "Ron Silliman is > my Father" inspired by "The Chinese Notebook" also Ron Silliman. As for > Beckett, "Waiting For Godot" need I say more. Maybe "Endgame." > > Each of us has a say. S. Black > > Sheila Black > > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, steve russell wrote: > > > > From: steve russell > > Subject: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > To: poetics@listserv.buffalo.edu > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:23 PM > > > > ... or a dramatic monologue on video or film. That Beckett thing with a > mouth. That singular grotesque thing that's mouthing words on film. What's > the problem with dramatic monologues? If I knew the rationale ... Sillman's > point of view, but it seems little more than ... o.k. ... it's his aesthetic > ... but if the guy has a problem with dramatic monologues he's giving the > finger to Beckett and that's as close to blasphemy as one can get in my > stern book of principles. > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: steve russell > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 2:02:24 PM > > Subject: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > > > ... or say I agree with Sillman. I'll at least consider Lowell a minor > talent rather than a gifted, though priveleged (pity the ruling class) > casuality of his dopey era. > > > > But compared to Beckett, who is this Sillman? Better still, consider the > quaint notion of free will ... type ... type ... > > > > Compared to Beckett, Sillman, at best, is minor. Compared to the writings > of Samuel Beckett, most, if not all so-called innovation ( mid 20th century > lit ... present) seems a hopeless search for novelty. Still, as we're > > hurried to say in D.C., why not throw in a little spin? There is a > > tunnel at the end of the light ... the quest continues ... why not? > > Vispo ... Christo wraps the Washington Monument in kleenex (HA) ... > Jasper John's flag is mistaken for a dart board in a local D.C. pub (Jasper > Johns, currently at the National Gallery) ... > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:34:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Amanda Earl Subject: AngelHousePress wants poems for Nat'l Poetry Month by March 15 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed You are invited to send one (1) quirky, innovative and playful poem to amanda@angelhousepress.com by March 15 to be considered for Nationalpoetrymonth.ca in April. Visual/concrete poetry especially welcome. Please also include a brief bio and a photo. Send as attachment (Word/Rtf/JPG). The poem can be a previously published poem as long as you hold copyright. Amanda Earl AngelHousePress www.angelhousepress.com the angel is in the house ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:45:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Re: S BECKETT vs. r sillman In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You asked: (is a specif= As usual, cool, thoughtful letter, Dave:=0A=0AYou asked: =0A=0A(is a specif= ic definition of dramatic monologue given that is being applied?--=0Alet me= know the particular passages of which you write) --=0A=A0*****************= ***********************=0A=0ANo specific definition was given on Sillman's = blog, at least not the piece I read from Amy King's original link. =0A=0A= =A0Sillman seems prepared to dismiss Lowell because of some aesthetic, or p= erhaps from the point of view of NO aesthetic, or from the point of view of= an anasthetic. Maybe he simply doesn't like Lowell's work. =0A=0AI've lear= ned more from Learning From Las Vegas (Robert Venturi)=A0than I've learned = from Sillman. =0A=0A=0AHe, Sillman,=A0said something about Lowell's use of,= ugh, monologue, which, ugh, is, ugh, why Olsen is, ugh, better. =A0I think= that was the point. If I had more of a life, I wouldn't go near a blog, bu= t having the life I have, I occassionally (I confess)=A0find myself in the = blogosphere=A0going where??? probably to=A0a=A0better blog=0Athan the one I= just left. =0A=0A=0AI should go to your blog and learn some Vispo and find= out what's happening in Palestine.=0AI should get my own blog.=0AI should = get a life, but, it seems, I'm already alive, for=A0better (sometimes)=A0an= d sometimes worse.=A0=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=A0=0A=0A=0A=0A___= _____________________________=0AFrom: David-Baptiste Chirot =0ATo: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0ASent: Fri, February 26, 20= 10 5:41:50 AM=0ASubject: Re: S BECKETT vs. r sillman=0A=0Adear Steve:=0A=0A= i noted that you begin with criticizing Silliman's remarks someplace (it wa= sn't indicated precisely where/when on the blog) of dramatic monologue--is = this critique re Browning, Pound, Lowell??--(i gather from your remarks it = is most definitely the last named--that is involved)--is it a critique of a= specific dramatic monologist or dramatic monologists in general,=A0 in the= English language, to be sure, it goes without saying---?=0A=0Ai rarely rea= d Silliman's blog; my impression is very often that it in itself is a long = long ongoing extended and if not necessarily completely/always a "dramatic"= monologue, then most certainly an extended rhetorical monologue--=0A=0Ai g= ather that perhaps the soliloquy is NOT tossed in with the dramatic monolog= ue??--=0A=0Amight David Antin be considered a dramatic monologist?--how abo= ut the creator of Swimming to Cambodia?--sections of Jackson MacLow or Lori= ne Niedecker?--Hannah who saw words?--=0A=0Athere is a great deal of Sillim= an's blog, going by what i have read, that could be considered basically am= ong the more rhetorical forms of dramatic monologue--=0A=0Aare stream of co= nsciousness monologues such as molly Bloom's among the detested "dramatic m= onologues?"--=0A=0Ais a specific definition of dramatic monologue given tha= t is being applied?--=0Alet me know the particular passages of which you wr= ite--=0A=0Aare narrators such as Conrad=0A's Marlowe types of "dramatic mon= ologists?--"=0A=0Ahow about the extended solos taken by Jazz and blues, roc= k'n'roll musicians-classical artists---are these form of dramatic monologue= ?=A0 soliloquies?--=0A=0Aare certain Ballad forms "dramatic monologues?"--= =0A=0Aare "criticism" and "reviewing" and "literary memoirs" of the Sillima= n variety not so much providing "critical, essay, researched theorizing, et= c" thinking, but instead providing the reader with a form of rhetorical dra= matic monologue with intentions of being the "final word" rather than the "= opening words," opening that is outwo/ard, away from the monologue and poin= ting also away from the author & monologues' themselves towards an expandin= g area of questions, of ways of writing, of thinking, of encouraging DIY (d= o-it-yourself) in an inspirational/exemplary manner???--=0A=0Aplease note i= am not trying to start an argument(s) but hoping to open the questions and= observations up, towo/ards more questions and areas--re the topics--=0A=0A= isn't perhaps Silliman's blog also a form of "confessional writing?"--as wi= th much contemporary avant writing, so often concerned with the "confession= al" aspect of writing re one's memories, life, jobs, favorite tv shows, pas= times, book lists, etc --with "events and behaviors, thoughts, attitudes, e= motions since 9/11???"--=0A=0Ais the blog in itself not a form of confessio= nal writing, even when essaying to restrict the blog writings to "literary = thoughts?"--as these are bound up with the personal, the subjective, "the '= I'"--?? with ethical judgments on Good and Evil--=0A=0Aaren't often things = that a particular poet, writer, is very concerned with making a critique of= from a more or less subjective viewpoint--are not these often simply the p= rojections of aspects of ones' self, one's=A0 character, thoughts, on to ot= hers and their thoughts, viewpoints?--is this part of the seemingly endless= dividing up of writers, poets, forms of writing in to the US Goverment sty= le of "Good vs Evil"? rhetoric and propaganda--and--what and why is this so= important, this use of ethics as a form of literary criticism, in order=A0= to show oneself, one's group, one's Brand and Rebranded form of writing as= the Good and others' as the Bad and the Ugly?--=0A=0Awhy is for example "O= pacity" in writing so Good--and transparency Bad--while the same person, po= et may be crying for the Government to be "more transparent?"--esp when the= nature of governmental rhetoric and ventures, plans are quite distinctly d= esigned often to be of the most opaque nature?=0A=0Ain a sense--what could = not be more transparent!! then the desire that one's words be opaque, while= another's be transparent--=0A=0Abesides monologues, aren't there also ster= eologues, digitalogues--lincoln logs--blogalogs--logologues--egologues--ide= ologues--langologues--lingologues--jingologues--here alogue there a logue h= ear alogue their alogue . . . everyone everywhere alogues . . . lumberjack = ologues..the o'logues of the o'paque alogues . . .onan ologues . . .=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:23:15 -0800=0A> From: poet_in_hell@= YAHOO.COM=0A> Subject: Re: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman=0A> To: POETICS@LIST= SERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0A> =0A> hey, i've read Sillman.=0A> admittedly, i'm not a= n authority on Sillman.=0A> that Sillman.=0A> those certain Sillman's that = seem to haunt ...=0A> =0A> i said=0A> using a simple rhetorical device=0A> = WHO=0A> is Ron Sillman???=0A> =0A> comparing Ron Sillman=0A> to Samuel Beck= ett=0A> =0A> (since Sillman thrashed Lowell=0A>=A0 it seemed wisest to thra= sh Sillman=0A>=A0 using Beckett=0A>=A0 since it's impossible to thrash Beck= ett=0A>=A0 & who could stand such thrashings=0A>=A0 by being so compared?)= =0A> =0A> ... or, as i said earlier --=0A> to further clarify aforementione= d sayings=0A> as well as previous postings ...=0A> =0A> Robert Lowell=0A> (= is worth reading)=0A> i remember Lowell=0A> (i remember reading Lowell)=0A>= =0A> i've forgotten most of what i've read=0A> i remember mostly=0A> the s= tuff Lowell imitated=0A> in "Imitatiions."=0A> =0A> i rarely think about Si= llman=0A> i've forgotten most Lowellisms=0A> =0A> i'm presently thinking ab= out myself=0A> & my next cigarette=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ___________= _____________________=0A> From: sheila black =0A>= To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0A> Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 7:09:45 = AM=0A> Subject: Re: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman=0A> =0A> Look at the poem "= Sunset Debris" by Ron Silliman. That thing drove me crazy (not literal) so = I wrote a duplicate poem (just for myself) called "Ron Silliman Writes Poet= ry Like a Four Year Old Child" (never submitted!).=A0 However, for you band= wagonners, I also wrote a poem called "Ron Silliman is my Father" inspired = by "The Chinese Notebook" also Ron Silliman.=A0 As for Beckett, "Waiting Fo= r Godot" need I say more. Maybe "Endgame." =0A> Each of us has a say.=A0 S.= Black=0A>=A0 Sheila Black =0A> =0A> --- On Mon, 2/22/10, steve russell wrote:=0A> =0A> From: steve russell =0A> Subject: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman=0A> To: poetics@listserv.b= uffalo.edu=0A> Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:23 PM=0A> =0A> ... or a d= ramatic monologue on video or film. That Beckett thing with a mouth. That s= ingular grotesque thing that's mouthing words on film. What's the problem w= ith dramatic monologues? If I knew the rationale ... Sillman's point of vie= w, but it seems little more than ... o.k. ... it's his aesthetic ... but if= the guy has a problem with dramatic monologues he's giving the finger to B= eckett and that's as close to blasphemy as one can get in my stern book of = principles.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ----- Forwarded Message ----=0A> From: steve= russell =0A> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0A> = Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 2:02:24 PM=0A> Subject: S BECKETT vs. r sillma= n=0A> =0A> ... or say I agree with Sillman. I'll at least consider Lowell a= minor talent rather than a gifted, though priveleged (pity the ruling clas= s) casuality of his dopey era.=0A> =0A> But compared to Beckett, who is thi= s Sillman?=A0 Better still, consider the quaint notion of free will ... typ= e ... type ...=0A> =0A> Compared to Beckett, Sillman, at best, is minor. Co= mpared to the writings of Samuel Beckett, most, if not all so-called innova= tion ( mid 20th century lit ... present) seems a hopeless search for novelt= y. Still, as we're=0A> hurried to say in D.C., why not throw in a little sp= in? There is a=0A> tunnel at the end of the light ... the quest continues .= .. why not?=0A> Vispo ... Christo wraps the Washington Monument in kleenex = (HA) ... Jasper John's flag is mistaken for a dart board in a local D.C. pu= b (Jasper Johns, currently at the National Gallery) ...=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A> The Poetics List is moderated & does not ac= cept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/p= oetics/welcome.html=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A= > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:28:10 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Samuel Wharton Subject: Fwd: sawbuck 4.1 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 readers~ thank you for another great year of contributions! sawbuck 4.1 is here! we begin our 4th year of publication with selections from : Andrew Brenza | Becca Jensen Elizabeth Barbato | Elizabeth Zuba Eric Huff | Jack Boettcher Jane Joritz-Nakagawa | Mark DeCarteret Mark Jackley | Yotam Hadass i hope you enjoy what they have to offer ~samuel wharton, editor ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:49:04 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: JAZZ LOUNGE DATE COMING UP ON TUESDAY! (please announce) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed JAZZ LOUNGE DATE COMING UP ON TUESDAY! ESP-Disk' LIVE @ The Jazz Lounge (Sucre Cafe) 520 Dakalb Avenue (Near Bedford Ave) Brooklyn, NY 11205 G Train to Bedford/Nostrand Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010 8:30 pm Blaise Siwula & Bern Nix Blaise Siwula - alto / tenor sax Bern Nix - guitar 9:30 pm Alan Sondheim Alan Sondheim - electric oud / electric saz (or acoustic-electric oud or guitar or cura cumbus) Azure Carter - vocals Myk Freedman - lap steel (or guitar) ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:48:45 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: S Beckett vs. ron silliman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear Steve: i noted that you begin with criticizing Silliman's remarks someplace (it wasn't indicated precisely where/when on the blog) of dramatic monologue--is this critique re Browning=2C Pound=2C Lowell??--(i gather from your remarks it is most definitely the last named--that is involved)--is it a critique of a specific dramatic monologist or dramatic monologists in general=2C in the English language=2C to be sure=2C it goes without saying---? i rarely read Silliman's blog=3B my impression is very often that it in itself is a long long ongoing extended and if not necessarily completely/always a "dramatic" monologue=2C then most certainly an extended rhetorical monologue-- i gather that perhaps the soliloquy is NOT tossed in with the dramatic mono= logue??-- might David Antin be considered a dramatic monologist?--how about the creator of Swimming to Cambodia?--sections of Jackson MacLow or Lorine Niedecker?--Hannah who saw words?-- there is a great deal of Silliman's blog=2C going by what i have read=2C that could be considered basically among the more rhetorical forms of dramatic monologue-- are stream of consciousness monologues such as molly Bloom's among the dete= sted "dramatic monologues?"-- is a specific definition of dramatic monologue given that is being applied?= -- let me know the particular passages of which you write-- are narrators such as Conrad 's Marlowe types of "dramatic monologists?--" how about the extended solos taken by Jazz and blues=2C rock'n'roll musicians-classical artists---are these form of dramatic monologue?=20 soliloquies?-- are certain Ballad forms "dramatic monologues?"-- are "criticism" and "reviewing" and "literary memoirs" of the Silliman variety not so much providing "critical=2C essay=2C researched theorizing= =2C etc" thinking=2C but instead providing the reader with a form of rhetorical dramatic monologue with intentions of being the "final word" rather than the "opening words=2C" opening that is outwo/ard=2C away from the monologue and pointing also away from the author & monologues' themselves towards an expanding area of questions=2C of ways of writing=2C of thinking=2C of encouraging DIY (do-it-yourself) in an inspirational/exemplary manner???-- please note i am not trying to start an argument(s) but hoping to open the questions and observations up=2C towo/ards more questions and areas--re the topics-- isn't perhaps Silliman's blog also a form of "confessional writing?"--as with much contemporary avant writing=2C so often concerned with the "confessional" aspect of writing re one's memories=2C life=2C jobs=2C favorite tv shows=2C pastimes=2C book lists=2C etc --with "events and behaviors=2C thoughts=2C attitudes=2C emotions since 9/11???"-- is the blog in itself not a form of confessional writing=2C even when essaying to restrict the blog writings to "literary thoughts?"--as these are bound up with the personal=2C the subjective=2C "the 'I'"--?? with ethical judgments on Good and Evil-- aren't often things that a particular poet=2C writer=2C is very concerned with making a critique of from a more or less subjective viewpoint--are not these often simply the projections of aspects of ones' self=2C one's character=2C thoughts=2C on to others and their thoughts=2C viewpoints?--is this part of the seemingly endless dividing up of writers=2C poets=2C forms of writing in to the US Goverment style of "Good vs Evil"? rhetoric and propaganda--and--what and why is this so important=2C this use of ethics as a form of literary criticism=2C in order to show oneself=2C one's group=2C one's Brand and Rebranded form of writing as the Good and others' as the Bad and the Ugly?-- why is for example "Opacity" in writing so Good--and transparency Bad--while the same person=2C poet may be crying for the Government to be "more transparent?"--esp when the nature of governmental rhetoric and ventures=2C plans are quite distinctly designed often to be of the most opaque nature? in a sense--what could not be more transparent!! then the desire that one's= words be opaque=2C while another's be transparent-- besides monologues=2C aren't there also stereologues=2C digitalogues--lincoln logs--blogalogs--logologues--egologues--ideologues--langologues--lingologue= s--jingologues--here alogue there a logue hear alogue their alogue . . . everyone everywhere alogues . . . lumberjack ologues..the o'logues of the o'paque alogues . . .onan ologues . . . =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:51:16 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: matthew shipp solo at tribes gallery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit please spread the word that matt shipp is playing solo piano at tribes gallery 285 e 3rd st 2nd fl 5pm March 14 saturday 10 $ donation On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:04:17 -0500 CA Conrad writes: > Poets at The Poet’s Salon The Rainbow Book Fair > > Saturday March 27th 11:30am-5:00pm > > CUNY Graduate Center Fifth Avenue and 34th Street NYC > > FREE ! OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ! > > > > COME HEAR ! a LGBTQ poetry reading series > > coordinated/hosted by Nathaniel A. Siegel & Regie Cabico > > present POETS: > > > > Ana Bozicevic > > Julian Brolaski > > Steven Cordova > > Mina Pam Dick > > Jameson Fitzpatrick > > David Garrett > > Stephanie Gray > > Scott Hightower > > Paul Foster Johnson > > Saeed Jones > > Amy King > > Bill Kushner > > Jee Leong Koh > > Gregory Laynor > > Timothy Liu > > Douglas A. Martin > > David Messineo > > Debrah Morkun > > Angelo Nikolopoulos > > Tim Peterson (Trace) > > Elizabeth Reddin > > Vittoriar repetto > > Jason Roush > > Moonshine Shorey > > Richard Tayson > > Vega > > Ronaldo V. Wilson > > Emanuel Xavier > > Rachel Zolf > > > > ALL reading their own poetry ! > > Also featuring poems from “persistent voices Poetry By Writers Lost > to > AIDS” edited by Philip Clark & David Groff, presented by Philip > Clark > > > > Poets books available for purchase ! > > > > additional poets to be announced (list as of 2/26/2010) > > > -- > PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com > > THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:02:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Ron (Dixie Chick?) Sillman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A distinguished poet in D.C tells me that the Dixie Chicks have= =0A=0A=0AA distinguished poet in D.C =A0tells me that the Dixie Chicks have= been stealing from Sillman. Both Chapter & verse. But it wasn't that long = ago when=0Adistinguished (though discreet) D.C. poet was playing Zepplin re= cords backwards fearing, or perhaps eagerly anticipating Satanic whispering= s.=0A=0Aor, as the kids say...=0A=0AWe must turn the pages back to the "two= gruelling weeks in November and December," 1994, and read the Baffler, iss= ue #6, for a great Ashbery imitation by David Berman, p.42.=0A=0A... whatev= er.=0A=0AClip-On Tie=0AThe Diary of a New York Art Museum Security Guard=0A= =0A& some say that Ashbery can't be imitated (HA).=0A=0ABack to Sillman: is= it that he wants an Objective (what-ever Eliot called it) instead of the D= ramatic Monologue? Is that it? Is that what Olsen was doing?=0A=0AIt worked= awhile, I guess, for Eliot. Until "free-thinking jews" and Tory politics a= nd so-so drama got in the way.=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:56:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Andy Gricevich Subject: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Um, I don't think that's what RS meant by "dramatic monologue." The term has a specific sense in poetry, associated primarily with Robert Browning. It has nothing to do with literal monologues in stage dramas like Beckett's. I think of Silliman's work all the time, and have even bothered to learn to spell his name. Andy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:22:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Service for David Nolan In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, It is with great sadness that we share the news of the passing of our friend, colleague, and East Village neighbor David Nolan. David suffered from a heart attack last Thursday, February 25. He had just turned 47 on Valentine=B9s Day.=20 David has been involved with the Poetry Project for many years as our much cherished audio-technical consultant. He worked with John Fisk, and as recently as this past New Year=B9s Day, with David Vogen. Many of you probabl= y noticed him assisting at the sound table for twelve hours straight, photographing each performer and live-posting portraits to his Facebook pag= e throughout the event! David was a friend to many people in our community, and his wife, Joy Linscheid, would like to extend an invitation to his memorial service to anyone who has known him over the years. The funeral will be held on Wednesday, March 3, here at St. Mark=B9s Church (131 E. 10th St. at 2nd Ave). The service will run from 4PM to 5:30PM. A reception will follow in the Parish Hall from 5:30PM to 7PM. David worked with a number of community and arts organizations during his life; in lieu of flowers his family would appreciate that donations be made in David=B9s name to one of the charities listed below, or to one of your choosing. Our deepest condolences go out to David=B9s family and friends. Love, The Poetry Project Community and Arts Organizations East Village Community School 610 E. 12th St., Room 205, New York, NY 10009= . Attn: Mary Talbot 212.982.0682 x.2056 Poet=B9s House 10 River Terrace, New York, NY 10281. Attn: Jane Preston, Managing Director 212.431.7920 Theater for the New City 155 First Ave., New York, NY 10009. Attn: Crystal Field WBAI 120 Wall Street, 10th Floor, New York, NY 10005. Attn: Morning Dew The Poetry Project at St. Mark=B9s Church 131 E. 10th St., New York, NY 10003= . Attn: Stacy Szymaszek 212.674.0910 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:21:23 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Andy Gricevich Subject: Cannot Exist no.6 is out! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What a pleasure it is to announce the appearance of Cannot Exist no.6! Such pleasure derives from the 60 pages of mind-bendingly strange, heartbr(e)aking, hilarious, urgent work contributed thereto by the following masters of contemporary versification: Michael BernsteinDavid BuuckMairead ByrneJordan DunnLewis FreedmanSteve GilmartinBob HemanCrag HillMary KasimorMonica ModyThe Nonsense Company Nicholas Ravnikar Juliana SpahrJordan StemplemanDavid WolachJoey Yearous-Algozin You can buy the issue via http://cannotexist.blogspot.com. all the best, Andy Gricevich ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 01:24:48 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Justin Katko Subject: Manson and Toal: Friday 5 March: Cambridge, UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cambridgeshire quakes at the arrival of Peter Manson and Jefferson Toal, wh= o will read their poetry for the second event of the Cambridge Reading Series= . TIME: 7:30pm, Friday, 5 March. PLACE: Judith E. Studio Drama Studio, Facult= y of English, Cambridge. This prelapsarian dyad is here to teach us best practices for systematically wiping the bad poetry out from these our good heads. All are welcome; free entry; wine served. *************************** PETER MANSON lives in Glasgow. His publications include *Between Cup and Li= p * (Miami University Press 2008), *For the Good of Liars* (Barque Press 2006), *Adjunct: an Undigest *(Edinburgh Review 2005, Barque Press 2009) an= d *Before and After Mallarm=E9* (Survivors=92 Press 2005). He was the Judith = E. Wilson Visiting Poetry Fellow of 2005-6. His website, =93Freebase Accordion= =94, is at petermanson.com. Peter Manson will read the poems of Clark Coolidge a= s part of his CRS reading. JEFFERSON TOAL // D.O.B.: XX-XX-1985 / WEAPONS SKILL: 6 / BALLISTICS SKILL: 7 / PUBLICATIONS: =93Arcobat=94 (=A9_=A9 PRESS, forthcoming) =93Training Se= ssion=94 (Quid 16), =93Epyx Fastload=94 (Plantarchy 4), =93Mortar Penne: Ha Ha Ha; O= r =91The day Sigma Huda ate my gundog=92=94 (Quid 18) / STAMINA: 4 / PSYCHIC: 9 / DE= NTAL WORK: Sussex University: BA =9103-=9206, MA =9106-=9208 / OFFICES: Secretar= y of the Random Acts of Kindness movement =9104, Insert Riot Sorrowist Cadre and Jel= ly Procurement Delegate =9105-=9207, Chief Shadow Puppeteer of the Military Af= fairs Committee of the Faceplant International =9107-=9209. / CHARM: +1. // By da= y Jefferson Toal teaches the students of Coldfall Primary School (London) whose poetry he will read in addition to his own at the CRS reading. *************************** The Cambridge Reading Series (CRS) is a new cycle of poetry readings taking place at the Faculty of English in Cambridge. Dialogic in form and international in scope, CRS revises the conventional performance format. In addition to reading their own work, both poets will also read the work of another poet. Each reading will be accompanied by a pamphlet publication featuring a selection of the participating poets=92 work and critical responses. A full list of up-coming dates and readers is given below. Please direct an= y queries to Ryan Dobran (rdobran [at] gmail [dot] com) or see the CRS website: crs0hq.tumblr.com The Cambridge Reading Series is funded by the Judith E. Wilson Fund and organised by English graduate students Ryan Dobran, Ian Heames, Justin Katko, Laura Kilbride, and Mike Wallace-Hadrill. *************************** Readings begin at 7:30pm and are held in the Judith E. Wilson Drama Studio, in the Faculty of English, West Road, Cambridge. LENT TERM Friday 5 March: Peter Manson & Jefferson Toal INTER-TERM Friday 2 April: Nour Mobarak & Trevor Joyce EASTER TERM Friday 30 April: Jonty Tiplady & Frances Kruk Friday 21 May: Lorqi Blinks & John Wilkinson Friday 18 Jun: Sean Bonney & Simon Jarvis FREE =95 ALL WELCOME =95 WINE SERVED =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:45:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Hand Held Editions Subject: Series 3 - Hawkey/O'Brien/Nature Theater of Oklahoma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Announcing the official release of Hand Held Editions - Series 3, featuring: Christian Hawkey, Petitions for an Alien Relative Geoffrey G. O'Brien, Poem with No Good Lines Nature Theater of Oklahoma, Choregraphie ALL THREE 5x7 chapbooks, on linen paper, in numbered editions of 75, for $12 (includes post). See the site for details: handheldeditions.blogspot.com -- hand*held*editions thomas hummel & brett fletcher lauer handheldeditions.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:55:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tim Peterson Subject: EOAGH Reading Series: Spring 2010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *EOAGH Reading Series Spring 2010* All events take place at *Unnameable Books*, 600 Vanderbilt Ave, Brooklyn, NY *Jon Cotner, Andy Fitch, and John Harkey* Tuesday, March 16 @7PM* * *Barbara Henning, Simon Pettet, and Shira Dentz* Sunday, March 21 @2PM *Andrew Levy, Cheryl Clark, and Mark Lamoureux* Sunday, April 4 @2PM *David Shapiro, Joanna Fuhrman, and Charles Borkhuis* Sunday, April 18 @2PM EOAGH: A Journal of the Arts is edited by Tim Peterson (Trace) and distributed by Chax Press . Submissions? Contact EOAGH.Editor@gmail.com. New poetics/essays/criticism especially desirable. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:13:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Paul Nelson Subject: Michael McClure in Seattle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Michael McClure March 12-13, 2010 Rainier Valley Cultural Center 3515 S. Alaska St, Seattle, WA Workshop, reading, and lecture with the renowned poet. Space is limited for the Saturday, March 13 workshop. Michael McClure is a poet, playwright, songwriter, and novelist who initially gained fame as one of the five poets who read at the legendary San Francisco Six Gallery reading in 1955, where Allen Ginsberg first read Howl. His next two books are Of Indigo and Saffron from UC Press, and Mysteriosos and other poems from New Directions. Our thanks to co-sponsors: Dark Coast Press, Augusto Romano L.Ac. the State Commission on Humanities, KBCS-FM, Copper Canyon Press, Wabi Sabi restaurant in Columbia City and Poets & Writers. Paul E. Nelson Global Voices Radio SPLAB! C. City, WA 206.422.5002 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:23:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Non-poet reads poetry! Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Political scientist, Ashok Karra, continues to support poetry (something he doesn't write) by putting his thoughts out there about specific poems (for his mostly non-poetry-reading audience!) -- pretty daring if you ask someone who rarely critiques poetry (me!). If you feel so moved, please visit and even post a note on his latest response to my poem, "State of a Nation" - thanks in advance! http://www.ashokkarra.com/2010/03/amy-king-state-of-a-nation/ Best, Amy _______ BOOK Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm RANT "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html ESSAY "The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:26:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Women artists / poets Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know if I sent this here, but I sent it to a women's poetry listserv and have now second guessed myself: why shouldn't I send it to an "everyone" listserv? Looks great --- take a gander at the short trailer here - http://www.whodoesshethinksheis.net/ Cheers, Amy _______ BOOK Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm RANT "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html ESSAY "The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 04:59:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Eric Hoffman Subject: Call for Papers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Call for papers for a collection of critical essays on various aspects of o= r=0Aapproaches to Cerebus, both a scholarly and popular, though coherent, c= ompanion=0A(and introduction) to the series. =0A=A0=0AAny subject matter is= welcome, so long as it pertains to Dave Sim and/or Cerebus.=0A=0ASome reco= mmendations of subjects that in which I am most interested:=0A=0ADiscussion= of 1970's comics scene in which Dave first started to contribute=0Atogethe= r with a discussion of the various influences on Cerebus (Howard the=0ADuck= , Conan the Barbarian, Red Sonja)=0A=0ACerebus as satire of the comics medi= um (The Roach, "reads," etc)=0A=0ACerebus as social satire (political and r= eligious satire)=0A=0AThe shift in tone from earlier and later Cerebus as a= result of Dave's=0Aconversion=0A=0AThe influence of Cerebus on the comics = industry=0A=0ACerebus and the graphic "Novel"=0A=0ADave Sim as self-publish= er and his feud with Gary Groth and the Comics Journal=0A=0ADave Sim and th= e CBLDF=0A=0AComics fandom and Aardvark Comment (& the Yahoo Group)=0A=0ANa= rrative structure in Cerebus=0A=0A"Mind Games"=0A=0A"Something Fell" (Yes, = I know Craig Miller wrote something on this in=0A"Following")=0A=0ADave Sim= as magpie (Barry Windsor-Smith, Mort Drucker, etcetera)=0A=0AGerhard's imp= act on Cerebus=0A=0ASim's use of literary characters (Wilde, Fitzgerald, He= mingway, etc)=0A=0ASim's use of public personas (Elrod, Mick and Keef, Lord= Julius, Konigsberg, The=0A3 Stooges, etc)=0A=0AMeta-narrative in Cerebus (= Viktor Davis/Reid in Reads, Sim in Minds and Guys)=0A=0ACerebus and Religio= n (both pre-and post-conversion)=0A=0ACerebus as a critique of feminism=0A= =0AGender issues in Cerebus (male/female light/void, he/she/it, YHWH, God,= =0A"Tangent," "10 Impossible Things," etc)=0A=0AAny suggestions this group = might have about other forums that might be useful in=0Asoliciting submissi= ons would be most appreciated. I would also be grateful for=0Athe names and= contact information of any potential contributors. And I welcome=0Aany sug= gestions.=0A=0AThank you in advance for your kind attention to this matter.= =0A=0ARespectfully yours,=0AEric Hoffman=0Alily_anselm@...=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:00:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Christophe Casamassima Subject: Ore by Christophe Casamassima (twentythreebooks) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My new book, Ore, has recently been released by twentythreebooks, a terrific baltimore-based publisher. This book completes the Proteus Cycle, which began with the books The Proteus (Moria Books) and Joys: A Catalogue of Disappointments (BlazeVOX). To read the press release, and a review, see http://www.twentythreebooks.com/images/OrePressRelease1.pdf You can buy copies here http://www.twentythreebooks.com/books.htm Thanks, everyone, for making this project a success. To see former titles visit http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html and http://blazevox.org/bk-cc.htm. Although poets around the world lose the grips on their pens whenever I say it, please support small, independent presses! Christophe Casamassima ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:17:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: More beautiful music/words (don't forget the Jazz Lounge Tuesday) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed More beautiful music/words from the produce-productive laboratory of the AMA group: Azure Carter, Myk Freedman, Alan Sondheim http://www.alansondheim.org/imp.mp3 (Myk, Alan) http://www.alansondheim.org/darkrobe.mp3 (new version, Azure, Myk, Alan) We go on. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:15:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sarah Sarai Subject: Karin Rudolph, Sarah Sarai, Saag Paneer: 5:30 pm, Sun., 3/7, NYC, Bengal Curry, 65 W. Broadway Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Details: 5:30, Sunday, March 7, 2010, at Bengal Curry, 65 West Broadway, 1-1&#= 8260;2=20 blocks s. of Chambers St. Manhattan.-- Most subways lead to Chambers. PHOENIX reading (George Spencer, Mike Graves, curators). Limited open mic= .=20 Eat and hear. Cheap. Karin Randolph: Either She Was, Winner of Marsh Hawk Press Poetry Prize=20= I love this book of . . . We need politics and wildness today, and here w= e find=20 a quiet resistance and no shame. =97David Shapiro Sarah Sarai: The Future Is Happy, With both wit and tenderness, Sarah Sar= ai=20 rigorously navigates the dialectics of knowledge and not knowing, thinkin= g and=20 being, the spiritual and the earthy. . .Lee Ann Roripaugh Saag Paneer: "...cubes of freshly made cheese in a sauce of spicy, slow- simmered spinach. . . long a favorite of mine." Mark Bitten, NYT =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:32:14 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: "Impolitic: Kent Johnson's Radical Hybridity" -- a review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" The information following is from Geoffrey Gatza who posted it on=20 another list. I thought I=92d reproduce it here. My apologies if this has= =20 already been done.=20 (In relation to this, you may be interested in reading an interview with=20= Kent Johnson here:=20 http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Johnson%20interview.htm) =46rom Geoffrey Gatza: =93The new print issue of Pleiades journal features an extensive essay- review (thirty-four pages!) by the superb critic Michael Theune,=20 titled "Impolitic: Kent Johnson's Radical Hybridity." It covers five of=20= Johnson's books, including Epigramititis: 118 Living American Poets,=20 published by BlazeVOX Books in 2005. Pleiades has put up a PDF of the=20 essay at its website, here: http://www.ucmo.edu/englphil/pleiades/currentissue.html=20=20 Epigramititis can be ordered here: http://www.blazevox.org/bk-kj.htm=20=20 And Johnson's most recent book, the 836-page DAY (also from=20 BlazeVOX) here:=20 http://blazevox.org/blog/?p=3D118 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:32:18 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: BUK LIVES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bukowski Lives!! Please join us at the Bowery Poetry Club to celebrate the work and life of Charles Bukowski on Tuesday March 9, 2010 at the Bowery Poetry Club’s Sixth Annual Praise Bukowski Night!!! ( March 9 is the anniversary of Bukowski’s death). This event begins at 10pm and ends at midnight It is Free! - “the people look like flowers at last.” featuring : Steven Ben Israel, Jennifer Blowdryer, Steve Cannon, Steve Dalachinsky, David Huberman, Pierre Joris, Tsaurah Litzky, Dave Mandl, Nancy Mercado, Big Mike, Iris M.Schwartz, Susan Scutti, Shappy, Carl Watson!!! + Open Reading! Bring a poem of Buk’s to read! Bowery Poetry Club, 308 Bowery NYC (between Bleeker and Houston Streets) 1-212 -614-0505 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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(please announce) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oops matt shipp solo gig is sunday march 14 at 5 at tribes On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:49:04 -0500 Alan Sondheim writes: > JAZZ LOUNGE DATE COMING UP ON TUESDAY! > > > ESP-Disk' LIVE @ The Jazz Lounge (Sucre Cafe) > 520 Dakalb Avenue (Near Bedford Ave) > Brooklyn, NY 11205 > G Train to Bedford/Nostrand > > Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010 > > > 8:30 pm > Blaise Siwula & Bern Nix > Blaise Siwula - alto / tenor sax > Bern Nix - guitar > > > 9:30 pm > Alan Sondheim > Alan Sondheim - electric oud / electric saz (or acoustic-electric > oud > or guitar or cura cumbus) > Azure Carter - vocals > Myk Freedman - lap steel (or guitar) > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:00:29 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Carrie Etter Subject: Infinite Difference sampler no. 7 Comments: To: pussipo@googlegroups.com, British & Irish poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Andrea Brady's poem, "Still Hanging on Clinton's Second Visit": http://carrieetter.blogspot.com I hope you enjoy it. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:05:53 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Re: S BECKETT vs. r sillman In-Reply-To: <1dec21ae1003011229r10343965q3bd42ab1426bbcf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i agree. Chirot's post was dead on. & Sillman, correctly spelled, is Silliman, assuming Chirot spelled the name correctly. ________________________________ From: Murat Nemet-Nejat To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 3:29:13 PM Subject: Re: S BECKETT vs. r sillman David, BULL'S EYE! Absolutely breathtaking. Ciao, Murat On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:41 AM, David-Baptiste Chirot < davidbchirot@hotmail.com> wrote: > dear Steve: > > i noted that you begin with criticizing Silliman's remarks someplace (it > wasn't indicated precisely where/when on the blog) of dramatic monologue--is > this critique re Browning, Pound, Lowell??--(i gather from your remarks it > is most definitely the last named--that is involved)--is it a critique of a > specific dramatic monologist or dramatic monologists in general, in the > English language, to be sure, it goes without saying---? > > i rarely read Silliman's blog; my impression is very often that it in > itself is a long long ongoing extended and if not necessarily > completely/always a "dramatic" monologue, then most certainly an extended > rhetorical monologue-- > > i gather that perhaps the soliloquy is NOT tossed in with the dramatic > monologue??-- > > might David Antin be considered a dramatic monologist?--how about the > creator of Swimming to Cambodia?--sections of Jackson MacLow or Lorine > Niedecker?--Hannah who saw words?-- > > there is a great deal of Silliman's blog, going by what i have read, that > could be considered basically among the more rhetorical forms of dramatic > monologue-- > > are stream of consciousness monologues such as molly Bloom's among the > detested "dramatic monologues?"-- > > is a specific definition of dramatic monologue given that is being > applied?-- > let me know the particular passages of which you write-- > > are narrators such as Conrad > 's Marlowe types of "dramatic monologists?--" > > how about the extended solos taken by Jazz and blues, rock'n'roll > musicians-classical artists---are these form of dramatic monologue? > soliloquies?-- > > are certain Ballad forms "dramatic monologues?"-- > > are "criticism" and "reviewing" and "literary memoirs" of the Silliman > variety not so much providing "critical, essay, researched theorizing, etc" > thinking, but instead providing the reader with a form of rhetorical > dramatic monologue with intentions of being the "final word" rather than the > "opening words," opening that is outwo/ard, away from the monologue and > pointing also away from the author & monologues' themselves towards an > expanding area of questions, of ways of writing, of thinking, of encouraging > DIY (do-it-yourself) in an inspirational/exemplary manner???-- > > please note i am not trying to start an argument(s) but hoping to open the > questions and observations up, towo/ards more questions and areas--re the > topics-- > > isn't perhaps Silliman's blog also a form of "confessional writing?"--as > with much contemporary avant writing, so often concerned with the > "confessional" aspect of writing re one's memories, life, jobs, favorite tv > shows, pastimes, book lists, etc --with "events and behaviors, thoughts, > attitudes, emotions since 9/11???"-- > > is the blog in itself not a form of confessional writing, even when > essaying to restrict the blog writings to "literary thoughts?"--as these are > bound up with the personal, the subjective, "the 'I'"--?? with ethical > judgments on Good and Evil-- > > aren't often things that a particular poet, writer, is very concerned with > making a critique of from a more or less subjective viewpoint--are not these > often simply the projections of aspects of ones' self, one's character, > thoughts, on to others and their thoughts, viewpoints?--is this part of the > seemingly endless dividing up of writers, poets, forms of writing in to the > US Goverment style of "Good vs Evil"? rhetoric and propaganda--and--what and > why is this so important, this use of ethics as a form of literary > criticism, in order to show oneself, one's group, one's Brand and Rebranded > form of writing as the Good and others' as the Bad and the Ugly?-- > > why is for example "Opacity" in writing so Good--and transparency > Bad--while the same person, poet may be crying for the Government to be > "more transparent?"--esp when the nature of governmental rhetoric and > ventures, plans are quite distinctly designed often to be of the most opaque > nature? > > in a sense--what could not be more transparent!! then the desire that one's > words be opaque, while another's be transparent-- > > besides monologues, aren't there also stereologues, digitalogues--lincoln > logs--blogalogs--logologues--egologues--ideologues--langologues--lingologues--jingologues--here > alogue there a logue hear alogue their alogue . . . everyone everywhere > alogues . . . lumberjack ologues..the o'logues of the o'paque alogues . . > .onan ologues . . . > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:23:15 -0800 > > From: poet_in_hell@YAHOO.COM > > Subject: Re: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > > > hey, i've read Sillman. > > admittedly, i'm not an authority on Sillman. > > that Sillman. > > those certain Sillman's that seem to haunt ... > > > > i said > > using a simple rhetorical device > > WHO > > is Ron Sillman??? > > > > comparing Ron Sillman > > to Samuel Beckett > > > > (since Sillman thrashed Lowell > > it seemed wisest to thrash Sillman > > using Beckett > > since it's impossible to thrash Beckett > > & who could stand such thrashings > > by being so compared?) > > > > ... or, as i said earlier -- > > to further clarify aforementioned sayings > > as well as previous postings ... > > > > Robert Lowell > > (is worth reading) > > i remember Lowell > > (i remember reading Lowell) > > > > i've forgotten most of what i've read > > i remember mostly > > the stuff Lowell imitated > > in "Imitatiions." > > > > i rarely think about Sillman > > i've forgotten most Lowellisms > > > > i'm presently thinking about myself > > & my next cigarette > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: sheila black > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 7:09:45 AM > > Subject: Re: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > > > Look at the poem "Sunset Debris" by Ron Silliman. That thing drove me > crazy (not literal) so I wrote a duplicate poem (just for myself) called > "Ron Silliman Writes Poetry Like a Four Year Old Child" (never submitted!). > However, for you bandwagonners, I also wrote a poem called "Ron Silliman is > my Father" inspired by "The Chinese Notebook" also Ron Silliman. As for > Beckett, "Waiting For Godot" need I say more. Maybe "Endgame." > > Each of us has a say. S. Black > > Sheila Black > > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, steve russell wrote: > > > > From: steve russell > > Subject: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > To: poetics@listserv.buffalo.edu > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:23 PM > > > > ... or a dramatic monologue on video or film. That Beckett thing with a > mouth. That singular grotesque thing that's mouthing words on film. What's > the problem with dramatic monologues? If I knew the rationale ... Sillman's > point of view, but it seems little more than ... o.k. ... it's his aesthetic > ... but if the guy has a problem with dramatic monologues he's giving the > finger to Beckett and that's as close to blasphemy as one can get in my > stern book of principles. > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: steve russell > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 2:02:24 PM > > Subject: S BECKETT vs. r sillman > > > > ... or say I agree with Sillman. I'll at least consider Lowell a minor > talent rather than a gifted, though priveleged (pity the ruling class) > casuality of his dopey era. > > > > But compared to Beckett, who is this Sillman? Better still, consider the > quaint notion of free will ... type ... type ... > > > > Compared to Beckett, Sillman, at best, is minor. Compared to the writings > of Samuel Beckett, most, if not all so-called innovation ( mid 20th century > lit ... present) seems a hopeless search for novelty. Still, as we're > > hurried to say in D.C., why not throw in a little spin? There is a > > tunnel at the end of the light ... the quest continues ... why not? > > Vispo ... Christo wraps the Washington Monument in kleenex (HA) ... > Jasper John's flag is mistaken for a dart board in a local D.C. pub (Jasper > Johns, currently at the National Gallery) ... > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:17:37 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Re: S BECKETT vs. r sillman In-Reply-To: <367104.24139.qm@web113616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii & i seem to be thinking too much about Silliman without spelling his name correctly. point taken. ________________________________ From: Andy Gricevich To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 3:56:50 PM Subject: Fw: S BECKETT vs. r sillman Um, I don't think that's what RS meant by "dramatic monologue." The term has a specific sense in poetry, associated primarily with Robert Browning. It has nothing to do with literal monologues in stage dramas like Beckett's. I think of Silliman's work all the time, and have even bothered to learn to spell his name. Andy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:06:16 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Michael Tod Edgerton Subject: Re: Women artists / poets In-Reply-To: <178177.93641.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This looks awesome, Amy--and it's playing here in Athens! I'll get the word out to some folks here at UGA. Cheers, Tod ----- Michael Tod Edgerton MFA '06, Program in Literary Arts, Brown University PhD student, Dept. of English, University of Georgia _______________________ If the challenge of our time is the challenge of empathy, to make an empathetic relation; that is, to see another person, to feel their pain, story, whatever--that--that how can a poetic material making be part of--of that? ~ Ann Hamilton, in an interview about her installation, Indigo Blue ________________________________ From: amy king To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 5:26:04 PM Subject: Women artists / poets I don't know if I sent this here, but I sent it to a women's poetry listserv and have now second guessed myself: why shouldn't I send it to an "everyone" listserv? Looks great --- take a gander at the short trailer here - http://www.whodoesshethinksheis.net/ Cheers, Amy _______ BOOK Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm RANT "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html ESSAY "The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:17:00 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: William Allegrezza Subject: Series A: Taransky and Shaw this Wed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please come to Series A in Chicago to hear Michelle Taransky and Anne Shaw. When: Wednesday, March 3. Where: Hyde Park Art Center, 5020 S. Cornell, Chicago Time: 7-8 (and we start on time) BYOB! Parking and easy public transit access. For more info, see www.moriapoetry.com/seriesa.html or e-mail Bill Allegrezza at holdthresh@yahoo.com Bill ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 20:55:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Camille Martin Subject: new at Rogue Embryo In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 New on my blog: : links to eighteen close readings and other explorations that I= =92ve posted on this blog=96 from analysis of collaborative multidisciplina= ry performance to close readings of poems by Connie Deanovich, Ann Lauterba= ch, Trevor Joyce, Maxine Chernoff, and others at the fabulous This Ain=92t the Rosedale Libra= ry : third installment of Mardi = Gras photo gallery http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com Cheers! Camille Camille Martin http://www.camillemartin.ca http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 06:06:05 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Anny Ballardini Subject: A Haiti Fundraiser with Complimentary New Book by Eileen R. Tabios In-Reply-To: <16304.5d12a289.38bf2759@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From Eileen Tabios: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D *[Please Forward]* *MARSH HAWK PRESS ANNOUNCEMENT* ** *A Haiti Fundraiser with Complimentary New Book by Eileen R. Tabios* Marsh Hawk Press (New York) has teamed up with Meritage Press (San Francisc= o & St. Helena) to provide a poetry fundraiser for Haiti Relief. Those who order five or more "Hay(na)ku for Haiti" booklets from Meritage Press' Open Palm Press will also receive a complimentary copy of Eileen R. Tabios' latest Marsh Hawk Press book, *THE THORN ROSARY: Selected Prose Poems & New*, edited by Thomas Fink (more information about *THE THORN ROSARY* at http://marshhawkpress.org/tabios4.htm ). As five booklets are available for $15 and Ms. Tabios' book retails for $19.95, we hope poetry lovers will find this offer an attractive way to contribute to Haiti relief. The following provides details on this Haiti fundraiser: *Open Palm Press* *(an imprint of Meritage Press)* *is pleased to announce the series:* ** *Hay(na)ku for Haiti* -- a fundraiser for Haiti, edited by Eileen R. Tabios and blessed by suppor= t from chapbookpublisher.com. Poets who write in the hay(na)ku form (about which more information is available at http://haynakupoetry.blogspot.com) have consented to create hay(na)ku for helping Haiti's recovery efforts. The results are to be released as "pocket poem booklets" by Open Palm Press. Each will be sold fo= r $3.00, reflecting the hay(na)ku's three lines, with all proceeds to be donated for Haiti relief. The first eight of the series are: #1: *PARTICLE AND WAVE and FROM THE CHAIR*, two hay(na)ku sequences by Jean Vengua #2: *On A Pyre: An Ars Poetica* by Eileen R. Tabios #3: *Hay(na)ku for Haiti* by Tom Beckett #4: *when the earth moves* by Lars Palm #5: *After Ren=E9 Depestre=92s =93My Definition of Poetry=94, as translated= by Edwidge Danticat, with lines at the end by Lafcadio Hearn* by John Bloomberg-Rissman #6: *Mrs. Quake* by Nicole Mauro #7: *Through Having Been, Vol. 1* by William Allegrezza #8: *Through Having Been, Vol. 2* by William Allegrezza Over time, more releases will occur as it is anticipated that Haiti's relie= f requirements will be prolonged and deep. Poets interested in exploring the hay(na)ku through this fundraising effort may contact the series editor at MeritagePress@aol.com "H for H" booklets are lovingly produced by chapbookpublisher.com ( http://chapbookpublisher.com/) on lilac-colored paper to fit, at 2.75" x 4.= 5 X 2", on an open palm -- ideal for giving engagements. To order some or all of the series, please send checks made out to "Meritag= e Press" for $3 per booklet and send to Eileen Tabios Meritage Press 256 North Fork Crystal Springs Rd. St. Helena, CA 94574 This offer is also available to non-U.S. residents, but with extra arrangements required for international shipping. For more information, including on international orders: MeritagePress@aol.com -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:30:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Marc Nasdor Subject: Re: Service for David Nolan In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To all who knew David Nolan, This is indeed shocking news.David was one of a kind, a gentle man who had not a vindictive bone in his body. As a friend for nearly 30 years, I will miss him as a brother. Rest in peace Dave, may you bump into Jerry up there, and sing the Morning Dew together. Goodbye, dear friend. - Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:22:44 -0500 From: Poetry Project Subject: Service for David Nolan Dear Friends, It is with great sadness that we share the news of the passing of our friend, colleague, and East Village neighbor David Nolan. David suffered from a heart attack last Thursday, February 25. He had just turned 47 on Valentine=B9s Day.=20 David has been involved with the Poetry Project for many years as our much cherished audio-technical consultant. He worked with John Fisk, and as recently as this past New Year=B9s Day, with David Vogen. Many of you probabl= y noticed him assisting at the sound table for twelve hours straight, photographing each performer and live-posting portraits to his Facebook pag= e throughout the event! David was a friend to many people in our community, and his wife, Joy Linscheid, would like to extend an invitation to his memorial service to anyone who has known him over the years. The funeral will be held on Wednesday, March 3, here at St. Mark=B9s Church (131 E. 10th St. at 2nd Ave). The service will run from 4PM to 5:30PM. A reception will follow in the Parish Hall from 5:30PM to 7PM. David worked with a number of community and arts organizations during his life; in lieu of flowers his family would appreciate that donations be made in David=B9s name to one of the charities listed below, or to one of your choosing. Our deepest condolences go out to David=B9s family and friends. Love, The Poetry Project Community and Arts Organizations East Village Community School 610 E. 12th St., Room 205, New York, NY 10009= . Attn: Mary Talbot 212.982.0682 x.2056 Poet=B9s House 10 River Terrace, New York, NY 10281. Attn: Jane Preston, Managing Director 212.431.7920 Theater for the New City 155 First Ave., New York, NY 10009. Attn: Crystal Field WBAI 120 Wall Street, 10th Floor, New York, NY 10005. Attn: Morning Dew The Poetry Project at St. Mark=B9s Church 131 E. 10th St., New York, NY 10003= . Attn: Stacy Szymaszek 212.674.0910 =20 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 02:36:17 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ram Devineni Subject: China: Bookworm International Literary Festival MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii China: Bookworm International Literary Festival Dear Friends: If you plan to be in China in the next two week, please join me at the Bookworm International Literary Festival. Some of the great writers who will be there include Amitav Ghosh, Junot Diaz, Zoe Heller and many others. Here is my schedule of events: March 6 at 6pm: screening and discussion of literature and cinema from Rattapallax. Guest is Caecilia Tripp. The Bookworm Sanlitun in BEIJING. http://www.beijingbookworm.com/schedule2010.php March 7 at 2pm: discussion of "Notes on a Scandal" with Zoe Heller and screening of the film. BEIJING CNEX Theater. http://www.cnex.org.cn/ March 7 at 5pm: screening and discussion of literature and cinema from Rattapallax. Guest is Caecilia Tripp. BEIJING CNEX Theater. http://www.cnex.org.cn/ March 12 at 7pm: screening and discussion of literature and cinema from Rattapallax. Guest is Caecilia Tripp. The Bookworm Shi Quan Jie (near Shanghai). http://www.suzhoubookworm.com/schedule2010.php March 16 at 6:30pm: Imagining India: Producer Ram Devineni and writer and musician Amit Chaudhuri discuss the presentation of contemporary India in film, music and literature. The Bookworm Sanlitun in BEIJING. http://www.beijingbookworm.com/schedule2010.php While in China, Caecila and I will be working on a collaborative video project. She may have some gallery showings in either city, too. More information on Caecila Tripp http://www.martosgallery.com/artists/caecilia-tripp/bio/ Cheers Ram Devineni Rattapallax Www.rattapallax.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:07:14 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mark Young Subject: Out from Otoliths=?windows-1252?Q?=97Mark_?= Young's Genji Monogatari MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Genji Monogatari* Mark Young 60 pages Otoliths, 2010 ISBN: 978-0-9806025-8-6 $14.95 + p&h URL: http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/genji-monogatari/8350625 *Genji Monogatari* is a sequence of 54 poems, each keyed to one of the chapters of the 11th century Japanese classic by Murasaki Shikibu. The result is a complex and beautiful palimpsest, wherein we are privileged, simultaneously and sequentially, to look upon worlds within worlds within worlds. Mark Young opens the book on the processes of the composition of th= e sequence itself so that, along with his reading of *The Tale of Genji*, we are also given the progress of the writing of that reading. His technique, foregrounded here, demonstrates a fidelity to stochastics allied with a profound knowledge of, and respect for, tradition: *replaying** / **our cached millennium**.* All the characteristics of Young=92s recent work=97ferocious intellect, coruscating satire, black humor, exquisite emotion=97are fully present, along with something more difficult to name: a= s if, in the drawing back of screen after screen after screen, what is revealed is the nakedness of all enclosure, the silence inside both world and word.*=97**Martin Edmond* *Genji Monogatari* will be launched by Michele Leggott in Auckland, New Zealand, on 31 March, at the Home & Away Symposiumorga= nized by the New Zealand Electronic Poetry Center. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:02:07 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6damned_mob_of_scribbling_women=E2=80=9D?= Comments: To: new-poetry-admin@wiz.cath.vt.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This week's tops -- http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/damned-mob-of-= scribbling-women-nathaniel-hawthorne/=0A=0A =0AEnjoy,=0A=0AAmy=0A=0A_______= =0A=0ABOOK=0A=0ASlaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.= htm =0A=0ARANT =0A=0A"My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.b= logspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html=0A=0A=0AESSAY =0A=0A"The What Else"-- htt= p://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html= =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:26:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Al Filreis Subject: PoemTalk #29: Armantrout, Dinh & Devaney on Kit Robinson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Today we are releasing episode 29 of the PoemTalk podcast/radio series. In this episode, Rae Armantrout, Linh Dinh, and Tom Devaney discuss Kit Robinson's poem "Return on Word." http://www.poemtalk.org Al Filreis Kelly Professor Faculty Dir., Kelly Writers House Dir., Center for Programs in Contemporary Writing University of Pennsylvania on the web: http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis blog: http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/blog PoemTalk: http://www.poemtalk.org get your daily Al: http://bit.ly/1UCfRp dial 215-746-POEM or 215-746-7636 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:06:16 -0300 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Regina Pinto Subject: AlphaAlpha is ready! In-Reply-To: <696B53B3AC3242CDA53AA83DF1CEC5D7@ReginaPintoPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, "AlphaAlpha, an animated netbook of letters" I am glad to say that it is ready at: http://arteonline.arq.br/a/ . The concept of this netbook is the proper "history of writing, which is, in a way, the history of the human race, since in it are bound up, severally and together, the development of thought, of expression, of art, of intercommunication, and of mechanical invention." "AlphaAlpha" is composed of 365 instances of the letter "A" plus one more for the leap year. The letters are collected in groups of about ten. "AlphaAlpha" is a collaborative work and includes participants =E2=94=80 ar= tists & poets =E2=94=80 from several places around the world. "AlphaAlpha" is a goo= d example of the possibilities of net art. Artists: Joes=C3=A9r Alvarez (Brazil) =C2=A0Bruce Andrews (USA) =C2=A0 Jim Andrews (= Canada) =C2=A0 Paulo Aquarone (Brazil) =C2=A0 Isabel Aranda - YTO (Chile) =C2=A0 Isabelle Arvers= (France) babel =C2=A0(Canada & UK) =C2=A0Vera Bighetti (Brazil) =C2=A0Bruno (Brazil)= =C2=A0 Patrick Burgaud (France) =C2=A0 Josely Carvalho (Brazil) =C2=A0 Steve Dalachinsky (= USA) Martha Deed =C2=A0(USA) =C2=A0 Rodolfo Franco (Brazil & Spain) =C2=A0 Marce= lo Fraz=C3=A3o (Brazil) =C2=A0Muriel Frega (Argentina) =C2=A0 Sabrina Gledhill (Brazil) = =C2=A0Lisa Hutton (USA) =C2=A0 Satu Kaikkonen =C2=A0(Finland) =C2=A0Maja Kalogera (Croatia) = =C2=A0 Roberto Keppler (Brazil) =C2=A0 Manik (Serbia) =C2=A0 Brigitte Neufeldt (Germany) =C2=A0 Mi= llie Niss (USA) Clemente Pad=C3=ADn (Uruguay) =C2=A0Margaret Penfold (UK) =C2=A0 Yuko Otomo= (USA) =C2=A0 Edward Picot (UK) =C2=A0 Regina Pinto (Brazil) =C2=A0 Isabel Saij (France) =C2=A0 = Jos=C3=A9 Roberto Sechi (Brazil) =C2=A0Reiner Strasser (Germany) =C2=A0Jurgen Trautwein (USA)= =C2=A0 Myron Turner (Canada) =C2=A0 Susan Turner =C2=A0 (Canada) =C2=A0 Paulo Villela (B= razil) =C2=A0Miguel Jimenez - Zenon (Spain) =C2=A0 Araceli Zu=C3=B1iga (Mexico) I hope you like the complete site and send me your comments. It is better visualized with Firefox and 1200 X 800 screen resolution. Warmest regards, Regina Pinto --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Regina Pinto http://arteonline.arq.br http://pintor.tumblr.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 05:30:24 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Re: Women artists / poets In-Reply-To: <964292.70662.qm@web110407.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very cool, Tod! Please let me know what you think, if you have time! I think we're going to get a showing of it up here too. That is, we're going to try to get one... as anyone in any town can attempt - ask your local art gallery or school. Best, Amy ________________________________ From: Michael Tod Edgerton This looks awesome, Amy--and it's playing here in Athens! I'll get the word out to some folks here at UGA. Cheers, Tod ----- I don't know if I sent this here, but I sent it to a women's poetry listserv and have now second guessed myself: why shouldn't I send it to an "everyone" listserv? Looks great --- take a gander at the short trailer here - http://www.whodoesshethinksheis.net/ Cheers, Amy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:54:30 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Query - Poem Commissions? Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So I commissioned a female artist not long ago to make some dolls of my partner-in-crime, Ana, and myself. I can't tell you how thrilled I was when they arrived today -- so much so that I posted a note and photos here --http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/strange-dolls/ But this got me to thinking, especially in relation to the film, "Who Does She Think She Is?" (http://www.whodoesshethinksheis.net/) -- how many of us are ever commissioned to sell our own art? How often do we support artists who are making a go of doing such? Is it possible to write poems for pay? Is there a way to start a trend, especially in the face of current economic climate, that gets back to supporting the little artist toiling away at her craft? Are you one of those artists who would be willing to give it a whirl? I realize this raises a whole host of loaded issues (i.e. can creativity be prompted by pay? Can a poet actually sell poems? Is this a call to pull your dusty mimeograph and letterpress machines from the attics and basements?), but I ask after finding out a poet I know has done as much, and he's something of a name... and I'd like to open a discussion about such the business of making a life as an artist in this country. Or are we all just supplementing our lives with side art / "hobbies"? Best, Amy _______ BOOK Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm RANT "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html ESSAY "The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:29:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Paul Siegell Subject: Re: Out from Otoliths=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=97Mark_?= Young's Genji Monogatari Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" outstanding news!=20 and, damn, that's a beautiful cover.=20 looking forward to my copy's arrival! thanks so much, paul> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:45:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jim Andrews Subject: "Digital Duende: Reading the Rasp in E-Poetry" by Amanda G. Michaels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I feel this is quite a good article on digital poetry: "Digital Duende: Reading the Rasp in E-Poetry" by Amanda G. Michaels ( http://www.shiftjournal.org/articles/2009/michaels.htm ). She explains Lorca's use of the term duende, concerning art, in his lecture "Play and Theory of the Duende". And moves on to look at work by Ken Goldsmith, Craig Dworkin, Simon Biggs, Mez, Alan Sondheim, and myself in relation to duende. And she discusses critical writing by Chris Funkhouser, Nathaniel Mackey, Michael Davidson, and Landow. ja http://vispo.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:09:53 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Carrie Etter Subject: Infinite Difference, sampler no. 8 Comments: To: pussipo@googlegroups.com, British & Irish poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sascha Akhtar's "The Sufi": http://carrieetter.blogspot.com Just two more posts before the launch of *Infinite* *Difference: Other Poetries by UK Women Poets *in London on the tenth of March.... ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:36:14 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Adam Fieled Subject: New Apps on PennSound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm thrilled to have a new set of Apps on PennSound: =A0 http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Fieled.php =A0 Many thanks to Michael Hennessey and the other folks at PennSound. =A0 Thanks for listening! Adam Fieled=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 afi= eled@yahoo.com=A0=A0 =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:07:07 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jim Andrews Subject: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz for iPhone and iPod touch by Joerg Piringer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://joerg.piringer.net/abcdefg "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz is a sound toy, a performance tool and an art work. You can play with the letter-creatures and watch and listen how they interact with each other or use them to produce soundscapes like you would with an electronic musical instrument. abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz blends art, biology, fun and physics to create a unique, dynamic and interactive sound ecology." ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:21:54 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Amanda Earl Subject: Some Green Words-latest essay from AHP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed In the eleventh of AHP's essay series,"Some Green Words on Mostly One Topic," Jamie Bradley discusses the reading and writing of poetry: meaning, possession, elitism and youth. to read the essay, please go to www.angelhousepress.com and click on essays. hope you enjoy, Amanda Amanda Earl AngelHousePress www.angelhousepress.com the angel is in the house ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:53:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Carol Novack Subject: FICTION & POETRY CONTEST Comments: To: e-pubs@yahoogroups.com, lit-events@yahoogroups.com, nycwriters , "Crwropps@aol.com" , CRWROPPS-B-owner@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *ANNOUNCING THE FIRST MAD HATTERS' REVIEW KNOCK OUR HATS OFF CONTEST* ** * * *Mad Hatters=92 Review* * is considering FICTION and POETRY submissions to our Knock Our Hats Off Contest until June 30th (11:59 p.m., USA EST). * *First prize winners * in both genres will receive *$250* (each)* plus publication *of their entries in Issue 12. The winning works of 5 runners-u= p in each genre will also be published in Issue 12. All winning entries will be published in a *print anthology* called *=93Kno= ck Our Hats Off: A Little Book of Curious Delights.=94* Each winner will recei= ve a copy of this deluxe collector=92s item. * The terms =93fiction=94 and =93poetry=94 * *may be interpreted broadly. Tak= e a walk on the wild side through our pages. Take liberties. Governments are taking them away from us, so we=92re giving them away free.* *Our honorable judges: * *Cris Mazza* , Fiction www.cris-mazza.com *Sheila E. Murphy* , Poetry en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Murphy *Our entry fee and modus operandi: * $12 per entry via PayPal to *madhattersreview@gmail.com*. Poetry: 3 poems max per entry. Fiction: 3000 words max per entry. By all means, enter as many times as you wish. *All submissions * must be sent to *madhattersrev@yahoo.com* with the following information in the subject line: - Your Name - Genre (Fiction or Poetry) - Title/s of submission - Word Count *Submitted works should *be copied and pasted into the exquisite corpus of your email AND attached as an RTF Doc. If you=92re submitting visual poetry= or visual fiction, attach your entries as jpeg/s or gif/s. If you absolutely MUST, submit these offerings in PDF format. *Pages of texts* should be titled, but your name should only appear on the subject line of your email, as submissions will be read blind. We=92ll ask = for your bio and optional pic if you=92re a first place winner or runner-up. *Simultaneous submissions* are expected. Just tell us immediately if some other lucky editor has grabbed your gem/s. But please realize that we won= =92t refund entry fees. *Winning entries* will be announced by September 15th. Please address queries to madhattersrev@yahoo.com (subject line: QUERY). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:59:25 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Andy Gricevich Subject: madison: friday, march 5th: the WITH PRAWN SHAPED POETRY READING MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please join us at the Project Lodge (817 E. Johnson) at 8pm on Friday, Marc= h 5th for this month=E2=80=99s installment of the ______-Shaped Reading Ser= ies. This month=E2=80=99s reading is shaped with prawn or simply shaped as = with prawn. =C2=A0 When you arrive you will hear the stimulating poetry of Michael Bernstein, = Andy Gricevich, Matthew Guennette, and Steve Timm read by said poets in the= ir own voices. =C2=A0 Feel free to bring snacks to share for our potluck intermission where as-ye= t unanticipated conversations will take place. =C2=A0 A $5-10 dollar donation is appreciated. =C2=A0 More's to be found at http://readingshaped.wordpress.com=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:42:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: New Apps on PennSound In-Reply-To: <291390.99693.qm@web53606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable thanks for writing about refusing to be cool & wanting to say everything. On 3/4/10 10:36 AM, "Adam Fieled" wrote: > I'm thrilled to have a new set of Apps on PennSound: > =A0 > http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Fieled.php > =A0 > Many thanks to Michael Hennessey and the other folks at PennSound. > =A0 > Thanks for listening! > Adam Fieled=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 afieled@yahoo.com=A0=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:30:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Betsy Andrews Subject: ESL Teaching Job in New Jersey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, all, this is a great little school. Pay is not great, but there could = be opportunity for more classes down the line, and the work is good work. JOB DESCRIPTION =0A=A0 =0ATeach English as a foreign language for South and Central American stude= nts, mostly. =0A=A0 =0ACourse: Conversation 1 ( Level 1)=20 =0ABook: Ventures 1 (Cambridge) =0AHours: 6:00PM to 7:20PM =0ADays: Monday to Friday =0AVenue: 310 Morris Ave. 2nd Floor - Elizabeth, NJ =0AStarting date: March 8th, 2010 =0AWages: $12 an hour=20 =0AContact: Daniel (Academic Director) - 908.355.0071 =0AE-mail: daniel@skywaynj.com =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:44:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nathalie Malek Subject: Managing Editor Position - BOMB Magazine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *Managing Editor* BOMB Magazine (Brooklyn NY) http://www.nyfa.org/opp_detail.asp?type=Job&id=94&fid=1&sid=54&oppid=28320 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:12:11 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Patrick F. Durgin" Subject: Don Share on Bunny Lang MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The first in a new set of "Previews & Supplements": Don Share on V.R. "Bunny" Lang. See http://www.kenningeditions.com and stay tuned for other guest bloggers Laura Elrick, Peter O'Leary, Aldon Nielsen, and David Hadbawnik. If you haven't yet picked up a copy of THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER: 1945-1985, consider a subscription. [For $35.00 you receive the anthology and, upon its release this spring, Pamela Lu's _Ambient Parking Lot_.] Also available from www.spdbooks.org, amazon.com, and any book seller worth surviving. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:40:18 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jerome Rothenberg Subject: horse songs complete, an interview, & new blog postings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have two new appearances of work in magazines (online and off) that = may be of interest to some here: =20 (1) All of the translation-derived versions of Navajo horse-songs (five = in all) in the current issue of Bombay Gin out of Naropa. These have = never appeared together except in an artist's version back in the 1970s = and are presented here, along with my "total translation" essay, through = the good offices of Andrew Schelling and Amy Catanzano. =20 (Copies can be ordered by checking their web site: = http://www.naropa.edu/bombaygin/about.cfm) =20 (2) A new interview conducted by Mark Weiss and presently posted on = Aryanil Mukherjee's Kaurab magazine = (http://www.kaurab.com/english/interviews/rothenberg.html). This gives = me a particular chance to speak for an international school of poetry = and poetics, plus some other things. =20 In addition, a few recent postings on my Poems and Poetics blog = (poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com), excluding various postings of my own = work, might also be of interest here, e.g.=20 =20 2010-03-01: Marjorie Perloff, An Afterword for Rae Armantrout 2010-02-25: Outsider Poems, a Mini-Anthology in Progress (13): American = Sign Language as a Medium for Poetry=20 2010-02-21: Reconfiguring Romanticism (37): Jack Foley on "Hamlet, = Keats, and La Conscience de Soi"=20 2010-02-17: Abdellatif La=E2bi: from Fragments of a Forgotten Genesis=20 2010-02-09: John Bloomberg-Rissman: from No Sounds of My Own Making =20 2010-02-05: Homero Aridjis: Poems of the Double=20 2010-02-01: Christine Meilicke: Burrowing In, Digging Out: Digging Out = Rose Drachler=20 2010-01-28: Robert Kelly: Three poems from "Fire Exit," with a note in = celebration=20 2010-01-24: Ahira Tatehata: Seven Poems, with a note in praise of ...=20 2010-01-17: Reconfiguring Romanticism (36): Jacques Darras, We Are all = German Romantics=20 2010-01-13: Aim=E9 C=E9saire: Three Poems Newly Translated by Eshleman & = Arnold=20 2010-01-09: Nathaniel Tarn: From Anthropologist to Informant, a Field = Record of Gary Snyder=20 Forthcoming postings for March and April include work by myself and by = Haroldo de Campos, David-Baptiste Chirot, Jeffrey C. Robinson, Christine = Wertheim, Jack Foley, George Quasha, Rose Drachler, Moira Roth, David = Meltzer, Hiromi Ito, Paul Celan, Osip Mandelstam, Pierre Joris, and = Lewis Carroll. =20 2010-01-09: Nathaniel Tarn: From Anthropologist to Informant, a Field = Record of Gary Snyder=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:26:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tim Peterson Subject: Tendencies 3/9: kaufman, Martin, & Dick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 TENDENCIES: Poetics & Practice erica kaufman, Douglas A. Martin, Mina Pam Dick This series of talks by major poets, titled in honor of Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, explores the relationship between contemporary poetic manifesto, practice, queer theory and pedagogy. The next event features talks by: erica kaufman Douglas A. Martin Mina Pam Dick ...followed by a discussion/Q&A session. on Tuesday, March 9 at 6:30 PM FREE at CUNY Graduate Center (in the Martin E. Segal Theater) 365 Fifth Avenue, NYC erica kaufman is the author of censory impulse (factory school 2009) as well as several chapbooks including civilization day (Open24Hours, Winter 2007). recent work can be found in Little Red Leaves, Aufgabe, and elsewhere. essays and reviews can be found in The Poetry Project Newsletter, CutBank, Rain Taxi, Verse, among other places. kaufman is currently a Ph.D. candidate at the CUNY Graduate Center where she explores the interstices between contemporary poetics and composition & rhetoric. she lives in Brooklyn and teaches at Baruch College and Bard College. Douglas A. Martin is the author most recently of a novel, Once You Go Back (Seven Stories Press). His other books include Your Body Figured, a lyric narrative; Branwell, a novel of the Bronte brother; They Change the Subject, a book of stories; and In the Time of Assignments, a collection of poetry. His first novel, Outline of My Lover, was named an International Book of the Year in the Times Literary Supplement and adapted in-part by the Forsythe Company for their multimedia dance-theater piece, "Kammer/Kammer." He teaches in the Low Residency MFA Writing Program at Goddard College. Mina Pam Dick (aka Hildebrand Pam Dick, Nico Pam Dick et al.) is a writer, artist and philosopher living in New York City. She's a native New Yorker. She received a BA from Yale and an MFA in Painting as well as an MA in Philosophy from the University of Minnesota. Her writing has appeared in Tantalum, BOMB, The Brooklyn Rail and The Portable Boog Reader 4, and will be included in Aufgabe #9; her philosophical work has appeared in a collection published by the International Wittgenstein Symposium (Kirchberg am Wechsel, Austria). Her first book, DELINQUENT, was published by Futurepoem in December, 2009. * * * TENDENCIES: Poetics & Practice is curated by Tim Peterson (Trace). For additional information, visit the Tendencies blog. All events are co-sponsored by the Center for the Humanities, CLAGS (the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies), The Graduate Center PhD Program in English, and the GC Poetics Group. upcoming TENDENCIES: Poetics & Practice events this spring: Dodie Bellamy, Eileen Myles, and Kevin Killian on Friday, April 9 at 6:30 PM in the Martin E. Segal Theater at CUNY Graduate Center Jack Kimball, CA Conrad, and Stacy Szymaszek on Thursday, May 6 at 6:30 PM in the Skylight Room (9100) at CUNY Graduate Center ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:54:52 -0700 Reply-To: derek beaulieu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: derek beaulieu Subject: CHAINS by derek beaulieu (very few copies remaining) Comments: To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@invalid.domain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks; my most recent book of visual poetry - CHAINS - is nearing the end of = its print run, so if you are at all interested in picking up a copy, i = recommend scooping it up relatively soon... 92 pages of visual poetry. $15 + postage.=20 http://www.spdbooks.org/Producte/9780979847035/chains.aspx?rf=3D1 ** With CHAINS, derek beaulieu once again turns his attention to how = "language regards itself, stalks itself, begins, slowly, to eat itself" = (Canadian Literature) in a series of graceful abstractions made entirely = from antiquated dry-transfer lettering. In chains, letters gather in = elegant arrangements, architectural constructions and sinews of meaning. = derek beaulieu is the author of 8 books of poetry and conceptual = writing. In 2005 he co-authored, with Gary Barwin, fragments from the = frag pool: haiku after basho, a book of playful translations. In 2006 he = co-edited Shift & Switch: new Canadian poetry to wide acclaim. Alberta = Views recently referred to beaulieu as a "mad scientist of visual = poetry", and FFWD referred to his 2006 volume fractal economies as = having "the potential to be like Miles Davis' Kind of Blue, which taps = the veins of jazz for many listeners and musicians. Never read a book of = concrete poetry before? This might be the one to hook you." =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:47:09 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: New from Xerox Sutra Editions: SEARCHIX by mIEKAL aND Comments: To: spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, Theory and Writing , British & Irish poets , collagepoetry@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) SEARCHIX Sampletexts And Dissolution http://xexoxial.org/is/SEARCHIX/by/mIEKAL_aND Published by Xerox Sutra Editions 2010. 8x18, 138 pages, color. $16.00. ISBN 1-438268-49-1 | EAN-13 978-1-438268-49-1 Xerox Sutra Editions presents mIEKAL aND's inconvenient disambiguation =20= of search engines, spam, outside texts & literal displays of often =20 loved hysteric sutras. "Je pr=E9f=E8re mon nouveau d=E9go=FBt =E0 l'ancien go=FBt d=E9go=FBtant."= -Isidore Isou "While the sphinx retains her secret, who shall reveal the =20 unconsummated significance of the asterisk=97Nonwithstanding that the =20= secret of the sphinx is not conveyed in words=97the asterisk is an =20 assumption that the secret is possessed by each of us and therefore =20 need never be mentioned=97the asterisk is the signal of a treasure which = =20 is not there" -Mina Loy "When you make music or write or create, it's really your job to have =20= mind-blowing, irresponsible, condomless sex with whatever idea it is =20 you're writing about at the time. " =97Lady Gaga "Hello sheriff, give me another nose." =97Clark Coolidge =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:15:01 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at The Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Here's what's coming up at The Poetry Project! We also have some new audio content up on our website here: http://poetryproject.org/multimedia/audio And you should check out Lauren Russell's epic reading report on our recent Joanna Fuhrman/John Koethe reading here: http://poetryproject.org/featured-content/reading-reports SAVE THE DATE Sunday, March 14th, 6:30 PM at St. Mark's Church A Celebration of Haitian Culture: Benefit for Earthquake Relief Please join The Poetry Project, Danspace, Ontological-Hysteric Theater and St. Mark's Church in the Bowery for a celebration of Haitian culture. All proceeds from the evening will be donated to Partners in Health: Stand With Haiti. http://www.standwithhaiti.org/haiti Readings by Amiri & Amina Baraka and Deniz=E9 Lauture! Performances by John Zorn and master Haitian drummer Bonga! More artists to be announced soon! Tickets to the benefit and to the pre-show reception at Pangea Restaurant are available for purchase at the benefit blog. Tickets will also be sold a= t the door. Please visit the benefit blog for updates and ticket options: http://benefitforhaiti.wordpress.com/ Monday, March 8, 8 PM Andrew Zawacki & Mair=E9ad Byrne Andrew Zawacki is the author of three poetry books -- Petals of Zero Petals of One (Talisman House), Anabranch (Wesleyan), and By Reason of Breakings (Georgia) -- and several chapbooks. Coeditor of Verse and The Verse Book of Interviews (Verse), he has published criticism in the TLS, Boston Review, Talisman, How2, New German Critique, Open Letter, Australian Book Review, and elsewhere. A former fellow of the Slovenian Writers' Association, he edited Afterwards: Slovenian Writing 1945-1995 (White Pine) and edited and co-translated Ale=B9 Debeljak's Without Anesthesia, due in spring from Persea= . His translation, from the French, of S=E9bastien Smirou, My Lorenzo, is forthcoming from Burning Deck. Mair=E9ad Byrne's books include The Best of (What's Left of) Heaven (Publishing Genius 2010),=A0Talk Poetry (Miami University Press 2007), SOS Poetry (/ubu Editions 2007), and Nelson & The Huruburu Bird (Wild Honey Press 2003); with chapbooks including State House Calendar (Dusie Kollektiv 2008), Vivas (Wild Honey Press 2005), An Educated Heart (Palm Press 2005) and Kalends (Belladonna 2005). She is an Associate Professor of Poetry + Poetics at Rhode Island School of Design. Wednesday, March 10, 8 PM George Tysh & Stephanie Young George Tysh was born in Passaic, NJ, and educated in Detroit. In Paris in the '60s, he edited Blue Pig with poet David Ball, and collaborated with conceptual artists Christian Boltanski and Sarkis. From 1980 to 1991, he directed LINES: New Writing at the Detroit Institute of Arts, a series that brought more than 300 authors to read and discuss their works in the Motor City, and (with poet Chris Tysh) edited In Camera, a project devoted to works of the sexual imaginary. His latest collection, The Imperfect (United Artists Books), completes a sequence that includes Ovals (In Camera) and Echolalia (United Artists Books). Currently, he teaches at the Roeper Schoo= l in Birmingham, MI. Stephanie Young lives and works in Oakland. Her books of poetry are Picture Palace (in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni, 2008) and Telling the Futur= e Off (Tougher Disguises, 2005). She edited Bay Poetics (Faux Press, 2006) an= d her most recent editorial project is Deep Oakland . Friday, March 12, 10 PM Heather Christle & Andrew Dieck Heather Christle grew up in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire. She is the author of the poetry collection=A0The Difficult Farm (Octopus 2009), and a portfolio of her poems and other documents recently appeared in=A0Slope. She lives in Atlanta, Georgia, and is a Creative Writing Fellow at Emory University. Andrew Dieck is originally from Philadelphia, PA. He now lives in Tivoli, N= Y where he works as a personal assistant. He has a BA from Bard College. His poems have appeared or will appear in The Bard Papers, Gerry Mulligan, and The West Wind Review. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.org/become-a-member Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.org/program-calendar The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.org www.poetryproject.org Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $95 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you'd like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.org. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:11:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Lars Palm Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" when i lived in gran canaria i wrote some poems for pay. i simply sat dow= n in a crowded place with a sign saying that for 5 euro i'd write a poem in= 5 minutes on any subject they'd give me. of course they all turned out horrible, but for a few weeks it got me enough money for food & thing= s it appears that some english poets get commissioned by radio, tv & su= ch quite regularly http://larspalm.wordpress.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:35:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Corey Frost Subject: Multiformalisms: A Public Conversation at the GC In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tuesday, March 16, 2010. 6:30 pm. At the CUNY Graduate Center, 365 Fifth Avenue New York, Rm. 9206. Multiformalisms : Postmodern Poetics of Form. (Essays. Edited by Annie Finch and Susan M. Schultz. Textos Books.) Join poet and editor Annie Finch, along with contributors to the anthology Multiformalisms: Postmodern Poetics of Form, for a lively discussion of how contemporary poets use and understand forms. The conversation, like the book, will juxtapose traditional formalism and Flarf, the American long poem and native Hawaiian poetry, rhyme in Paul Muldoon and textual variability in New Media poetry, Susan Howe and Lucinda Roy, jazz and Asian American poetics, and much more. Featuring Marilyn Hacker, Patricia Smith, Tyler Hoffman, and Stefania deKenessey. Presented by the Center for the Humanities and the GC Poetics Group. Moderated by Corey Frost. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:01:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Hugh Behm-Steinberg Subject: Issue Eight of Eleven Eleven Now Up! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Featuring poetry by: Thérè= At elevenelevenjournal.com!=0A=0AFeaturing poetry by: Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8= se Bachand, Dan Beachy-Quick, James=0ABelflower, Oscar Bermeo, Amaranth Bor= suk, Brian Brodeaur, John F. Buckley and=0AMartin Ott, Cynthia Carmichael, = JP Dancing Bear, Daphne Gottlieb, Elizabeth=0AHadaway, Marguerite L Harrold= , Amy King, Ruth Ellen Kocher, Ada Lim=C3=B3n, Dan=0AMagers, Camille Martin= , J. Michael Martinez, Maiana Minahal, Sara Mumolo,=0ATendai Mwanaka, James= Ryan, Tim Seibles, Tanya Stepan, and Melissa Tuckey. =0A =0AProse by: Char= lie Anders, Angela Jane Fountas, Jamey Genna, Lily Hoang, Ginnah Howard, Ch= ristine=0AHume, Baker Lawley, Jonathan Messinger, Anita Nair, James Scott, = Kim Gek Lin=0AShort, Lex Sonne, Paul Strohm, Diane M. Sullivan, Andrew R. T= ouhy and Mike=0AYoung.=0A =0APlays by: Josh Kornbluth, EM Lewis, and Gary W= inter.=0A =0ATranslations of: Nurduan Duman (by Ru=C5=9Fen Erg=C3=BCn), N= =C3=A2z=C4=B1m=0AHikmet (by James Ryan and H=C3=BCda Cereb) and Yuka Tsukag= oshi (by=0AYuka Tsukagoshi and Eric Selland).=0A =0AArt by: Jenkins, Alyssa= Monks, Pascale Monnin, Aubrey=0ARhodes, Allyson Seal, Judith Selby Lang an= d Richard Lang, Kevin E. Taylor and Jean=0ATripier.=0A =0APlus poems and an= interview with Benjamin Zephaniah.=0A=0AI want to take this moment to than= k my extremely hardworking staff, without whom Eleven Eleven would cease to= exist: Adam Fagin, Adam Fagin, Daniel Ishofsky,Frank Weisberg, Rheea= Mukherjee, David Mitchell,=0AVanelis Rodriguez-Laracuente, Neil Uzzell, Er= in Francisco, Scott Allen, Chelsea=0ATrescott, Josh Breitbart, Bryan Anthon= y, Samantha Boudrot, Lauren=0ACamacho, Carrie Murphy, and Rachel Volk.=0A= =0AAnd a really huge shout for our designer,Sarah Magrish, and our webmaste= r,Tom Comitta.=0A =0AI also want to thank all the discussions on this list= about serendipity and how to make web interfaces for journals work in more= interesting ways. I hope we measure up!=0A=0AOur submissions for issue ni= ne, our summer print issue, are now closed, but all that means is that we'r= e now considering work for issue ten.=0A=0ASend writing to:=0A=0AEleven Ele= ven=0ACalifornia College of the Arts=0A1111 Eighth St.=0ASan Francisco, CA = 94107=0A=0AFor more info, visit our site at elevenelevenjournal.com, or wri= te to us at eleveneleven@cca.edu.=0A=0ACheers!=0A=0AHugh Behm-Steinberg=0AF= aculty Editor=0AEleven Eleven=0A=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:05:54 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gwyn McVay Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've done this at a punk-rock flea market. A member of the local roller-derby team was one of my patrons; while "My Wheels, Your Ass" will never rank among my finest contributions to litrachoor, it got me a little money and a big hug from the roller diva. And, of course, a silly story to tell. Gwyn (Haven't started on a Norwegian-curling-pants poem yet, though) McVay On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Lars Palm wrote: > when i lived in gran canaria i wrote some poems for pay. i simply sat down > in a crowded place with a sign saying that for 5 euro i'd write a poem in 5 > minutes on any subject they'd give me. of course they all turned out > horrible, but for a few weeks it got me enough money for food & things > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:22:44 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Adam Katz Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Recently I've noticed some advertisements that appear to be in poem-y format. For example: http://www.qf.org.qa/think/Think.pdf And it's pretty kind of good! Maybe the way to get commissioned to write poems is to think about things they could be *used* for. Though I'm aware this idea of use is maybe taboo or incompatible with our for-its-own-sake mentality. If for-its-own-sake is what poetry is, then it's not commissionable. If for-a-commission is what we would like it to be, then we must think in terms of identifying, inspiring, and inventing market demand. a ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:02:05 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nana Zabic Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lars, You are my hero! Amy, I remember when I was a kid in SFR Yugoslavia, poets (bad, of course, but not only poets, writers of all kinds) would tour schools and community centers all over the country, read, sell and sign books, and I believe they were getting paid for that either by their state-owned publisher or some state agency. Then they'd get drunk at the local "bohemian" bar/restaurant with the provincial amateur literati, sleep in some dingy hotel room, and then hit the road again in the morning. Or they wouldn't get drunk, that depends. Also growing up, I saw all kinds of grave commemorations of the anti-fascist struggle and workers revolution in Yugoslavia that regularly featured poems written especially for the occasion, and read by famous actors. It was always televised. But I'm talking about ancient history in a non-existent land, maybe I'm just weaving a myth out of my unreliable memories. Go figure! But poets in the US even nowadays get commissioned to write occasional poems, don't they? Not just Elizabeth Alexander. Although I don't know if they get paid for it. I remember (and this is not a myth) when a new chancellor was inaugurated at UNC Wilmington in the early 2000s, they commissioned a poem by a UNC Greensboro professor of creative writing. He read an ode that heavily utilized various words that end-rhyme with WilmINGTON. You'd be surprised how many words he came up with. I attended the inauguration because my role was to walk with other international students, each one of us carrying a flag of a foreign country to show off how cosmopolitan the school was. Sne=C5=BEana On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Lars Palm wrote: > when i lived in gran canaria i wrote some poems for pay. i simply sat dow= n > in a crowded place with a sign saying that for 5 euro i'd write a poem in= 5 > minutes on any subject they'd give me. of course they all turned out > horrible, but for a few weeks it got me enough money for food & things > > it appears that some english poets get commissioned by radio, tv & such > quite regularly > > > http://larspalm.wordpress.com > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:50:31 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mark DuCharme Subject: FW: Stratford Park Reading Series: SCHELLING & ANDERSON, March 30th In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Stratford Park Reading Series proudly presents... Andrew Schelling & Erik Anderson TUESDAY=2C MARCH 30th at 7:30 p.m. A Donation is requested=97 but All are welcome! A reception will follow the reading. =A7 Address: 3030 O'Neal Parkway=2C Boulder=2C CO http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=3DBoulder&state=3DCO&address=3D3030+O=92n= eal+Parkway&zipcode=3D80301 DIRECTIONS: O=92Neal Parkway is off 30th Street in north Boulder between Va= lmont & Iris. Turn East at the signs for STRATFORD PARK WEST. The communi= ty house is the one-story building with a fence leading down to the street= =2C half a block from 30th. Please park ONLY on O=92Neal Parkway=2C O=92Ne= al Circle=2C or in VISITOR spaces in the Stratford Park West lots. Please = do not park in any other nearby lots. Thank you. =A7 Andrew Schelling is a poet=2C translator of the lyrical verse of ancient India=2C essay writer=2C and editor. He teaches at Naropa University where = he supervises the letterpress print shop=2C and cutrrently serves as editor in chief of Bombay Gin. His poetry is known for its close observation of ecological realms. Recent titles: Old Tale Road (poetry) and Dropping the Bow: poems from Ancient India (translation=2C second edition of the book th= at received academy of american poets translation award in 1992. =A7 Erik Anderson=92s first book=2C The Poetics of Trespass=2C is forthcoming f= rom=20 Otis Books/Seismicity Editions in Spring 2010. His critical and=20 creative work has appeared in American Letters & Commentary=2C Witness=2C The Laurel Review=2C The Poetry Project Newsletter=2C Versal=2C and Rain Taxi=2C among many others. A former contributing editor at the Denver Quarterly=2C he co-edits the mail-art magazine Thuggery & Grace and holds degrees from the University of Michigan=2C the University of Denver=2C and Naropa=92s Kerouac School. Born in Danbury=2C Connecticut and raised in Holland=2C Michigan=2C he lives outside of Longmont=2C Colorado. =A7 If you no longer wish to receive email announcements of upcoming events in = the Stratford Park Reading Series=2C please email markducharme@hotmail.com = with the subject line "SPRS: REMOVE." Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.=20 Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up= now.=20 Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:34:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: Dusie Kollektiv: new poetry online MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DUSIE KOLLEKTIV http://www.dusie.org Read work by: Samar Abulhassan=20 Derek Beaulieu Cara Benson=20 Ann Bogle=20 Jessica Bozek=A0=20 Ana Bozicevic Elizabeth Bryant=A0=20 Mairead Mairead=A0=20 Mackenzie Carignan=20 Juliet Cook=20 Sarah Anne Cox=20 James Cummins=20 Michelle Detorie Amanda Deutch=A0=20 Julia Drescher=20 Kai Fierle-Hedrick=A0=20 Annie Finch Anna Fulford Susana Gardner Arielle Greenberg=20 E. Tracy=A0 Grinnell=20 Arielle Guy Jared Hayes=A0=20 Jen Hofer with Sawako Nakayasu Carrie Hunter Jennifer Karmin=20 Amy King Paul Klinger=20 Mark Lamoureux Juliana Leslie=20 Dana Teen Lomax=A0=20 Nicole Mauro Catherine Meng=20 Bonnie Jean Michalski=20 Anna Moschovakis=20 Michelle Noteboom=20 Dawn Pendergast Emma Phillipps=20 Martha Reed=20 Kaia Sand=20 Kathrin Schaeppi=20 Zoe Skoulding=20 Carmen Gimenez Smith=20 Jane Sprague=20 Jill Stengel=20 Bronwen Tate=20 Maureen Thorson=20 Catherine Wagner Stephanie Young=20 Dusie is an experimental poetics journal as well as a yearly poetry publish= ing kollektiv. Under the auspices of Dusie Press, poets participate both ph= ysically and virtually in communal projects. Poets in the Dusie Kollektiv w= rite, design, produce and distribute poetic chapbooks in limited, signed, e= ditions of 50 to 150 copies.=A0 Dusie also makes poetry available to a wide= r community through free online PDF downloads. =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:01:13 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Naomi Buck Palagi Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <527918.96540.qm@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think there is a very long history of artists working on commission-- and= making great art.=A0 This is certainly true for visual arts and music, why= not for poetry?=A0 I think the only danger would be if a writer doesn't do= any writing at all outside the commission/ pay format.=A0 But to a large e= xtent we want people to read and appreciate our work, it is why we try to p= ublish, so why not have some of that appreciation be in the form of pay.=A0= "I like your poetry, can you write more for me and I will pay you?"=A0 I'd= love that-- especially if there were few or no strings attached... --- On Thu, 3/4/10, amy king wrote: From: amy king Subject: Query - Poem Commissions? To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:54 PM So I commissioned a female artist not long ago to make some dolls of my par= tner-in-crime, Ana, and myself.=A0 I can't tell you how thrilled I was when= they arrived today -- so much so that I posted a note and photos here --ht= tp://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/strange-dolls/ But this got me to thinking, especially in relation to the film, "Who Does = She Think She Is?" (http://www.whodoesshethinksheis.net/) -- how many of us= are ever commissioned to sell our own art?=A0 How often do we support arti= sts who are making a go of doing such?=A0 Is it possible to write poems for= pay?=A0 Is there a way to start a trend, especially in the face of current= economic climate, that gets back to supporting the little artist toiling a= way at her craft?=A0 Are you one of those artists who would be willing to g= ive it a whirl? I realize this raises a whole host of loaded issues (i.e. can creativity be= prompted by pay?=A0 Can a poet actually sell poems? Is this a call to pull= your dusty mimeograph and letterpress machines from the attics and basemen= ts?), but I ask after finding out a poet I know has done as much, and he's = something of a name... and I'd like to open a discussion about such the bus= iness of making a life as an artist in this country. Or are we all just sup= plementing our lives with side art / "hobbies"? Best, Amy _______ BOOK Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm=20 RANT=20 "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/a= my-king.html ESSAY=20 "The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2= 009/prose/A_King.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 04:25:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Kirschenbaum Subject: Boog City 62 Print and Online PDF Editions Available Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please forward ------------------- Hi all, The print edition of Boog City 62 will be available Sunday afternoon. =20= You can read the pdf version now at: http://welcometoboogcity.com/boogpdfs/bc62.pdf Thanks, David -------------------- Boog City 62 featuring: ***On the Cover*** =97"Controversial projects have seen developers continue to run =20 roughshod over working-class neighborhoods that have little ability =20 for residents to fight the steam shovels at their door." =97from What =20= Jobs, Hoops, and Housing? The Atlantic Yards Battlefield by Scott MX =20 Turner. **And from this issue's all S.F. Bay Area poetry section, edited by =20 Joanna Fuhrman** (excerpt below) =97Woodacre, Calif.'s Albert Flynn DeSilver with "Desire" A flock of Varied Thrushes is enough. They=92ve made it in life. Onto the cover of Birders World. There is no word for individual in Bird or Thrush, no ***And Inside*** **=46rom our music section, Urban Folk, edited by Jonathan Berger** =97"The first eight lines hold onto the A rhyme=97veins, pain, rain, = came, =20 blame, same, train pass by before we get to a B rhyme. The message is =20= clear=97this album is about the slow build." from The Shivers=92 Dance =20= Party for Frankensteins: Finding a Bump-In-The-Night Rock Groove; In =20 The Morning by The Shivers, reviewed by Isaac Gillespie =97"Consider the case of legendary blues singer Robert Johnson. Although = =20 his last recorded words may have been =93there=92s a woman here who want = a =20 dime and I lacks a nickel,=94 his estate eventually grew to over $1.3 =20= million dollars in 1998. Does that mean that at his death his 29 songs =20= were worth the equivalent of $1.3 million 1998 dollars in 1938 =20 dollars? They are, after all, the same songs." from Song Valuation in =20= the Digital Age by JJ Hayes. **from our printed matter section, now edited by Arlo Quint** =97"A little admission, a little blurriness, a little bravado=97you get =20= the feeling Coletti is comfortable with the role of underdog, though =20 not without something in his back pocket." from The School of Opaque, =20= Honest, Musical Glee: John Coletti Delivers With Mum Halo; Mum Halo =20 (Rust Buckle Books), reviewed by Edmund Berrigan =97Arlo Quint poses 20 Questions to John Coletti **And the rest of our S.F. 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Current mood: excited Glitter is a killa in Chi tizzle You are such a flirt with your Loose Leaf Lounge =97Oakland, Calif.'s Joseph Lease with "=46rom X" 1 flowing over her face and green light flowing up into her hair=97the past is wilderness=97Fifteenth Century France is wilderness=97tree trunks wet under a violet sky, streets overflow=97you can=92t afford to go to Baja, Nieman-Marcus, Small Planet, Rizzoli, or Crate and Barrel=97snow clicking in black branches, on mailboxes, tanbark, garbage=97 daylight=92s long torso moves slowly=97 **Art editor Cora Lambert brings us work from Brooklyn Heights and Hudson, N.Y.'s Jen P Harris.** **And thanks to Tracy Collins and Arlo for their photos, and Jesse =20 Schoen for the Song Valuation art. ----- Please patronize our advertisers: a+bend press * http://www.spdbooks.org/Producte/80014/14000-facts.aspx Come Hear! 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:37:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Poems on Todd Swift's blog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Todd Swift has kindly done a little write-up of me and included two of=20= my poems on his Eyewear blog: http://toddswift.blogspot.com/2010/03/featured-poet-jeffrey-side.html Thanks Todd. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:24:12 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Anny Ballardini Subject: the HEALTH & ILLNESS Anthology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are pleased to announce the HEALTH & ILLNESS Anthology with our felt acknowledgment to all those who sent their poems and visual work. An enormous accomplishment that is officially unveiled on a freezing Satur(n)/day here in the Alps and a terribly hot day in Nigeria, with an epileptic electricity supply that forces people to seek refuge under the trees outside: *=B7* Editorial - Obododimma Oha- *=B7* Editorial - Anny Ballardini- *=B7* Michael Rothenberg *=B7* Dennis Barone *=B7* Daniel Zimmerman & Mom *=B7* Ned Condini *=B7* Elizabeth Smither *=B7* Douglas Clark *=B7* Jeff Harrison *=B7* John M. Bennett *=B7* Tony Trigilio *=B7* Peter Ganick *=B7* Charlotte Mandel *=B7* Ingrid Wendt *=B7* Sohrab Sepehri *=B7* Geoffrey Gatza *=B7* Wendy Carlisle *=B7* Peter Ciccariello *=B7* Jim Leftwich *=B7* Marilyn Hacker *=B7* Ric Carfagne *=B7* Jessica Fiorini *=B7* George Bowering *=B7* M=E1rton Kopp=E1ny *=B7* Silvi= a Levenson *=B7* Jameela =91Nishat=92 *=B7* Hoshang Merchant *=B7* Halvard Johnson *= =B7* Meg Withers *=B7* Christina Pacosz *= =B7* Ruth Fainlight *=B7* Jerry McGuire *= =B7* Jerry McGuire - 2nd part *=B7* Evelyn Posamentier *=B7* Evelyn Posamentier 2nd Part *=B7* Wendy Vardaman *=B7* Malai= ka King Albrecht *=B7* Grzegorz Wr=F3blewski *=B7* Rebecca Seiferle *= =B7* Luc Fierens *= =B7* Helen Ruggieri *= =B7* Ed Baker *=B7= * Daniel Godston *= =B7* David Howard *= =B7* Fan Ogilvie *=B7* Christopher Flynn *=B7= * Nuri Gene Cos *=B7* Penelope Scambly Schott *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 1 *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 2 *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 3 *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 4 *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 5 *=B7* Eileen Tabios *=B7* Barry Alpert *=B7* Jean Vengua and Michael A. Fink *=B7* Kathrine Durham Oldmixon *=B7* Sarah Rae * =B7* harry k stammer *=B7* Amy MacLennan *=B7* Margo Berdeshevsky *=B7* Obiwu *=B7* Marco Giovenale = *=B7* Tom Savage *= =B7* Richard Dillon *= =B7* Drew Riley *=B7= * Richard M. Berlin = *=B7* Sola Olatunji *= =B7* Musa Idris Okpanachi *=B7* Elizabeth Oakes *=B7* Marian Veverka *=B7* Judith E. Johnson *=B7* Penny Harter *=B7* Emma Bolden *=B7* Marjory Wentworth *=B7* Obododimma Oha With our best wishes, The Editors Obododimma Oha and Anny Ballardini --=20 Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome http://www.lulu.com/content/5806078 http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche =AB Stulta est clementia, cum tot ubique vatibus occurras, periturae parcere chartae =BB Giovenale =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:39:41 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Carrie Etter Subject: Our penultimate offering, Infinite Difference sampler no. 9 Comments: To: pussipo@googlegroups.com, British & Irish poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This time it's a section of Elisabeth Bletsoe's "Birds of the Sherborne Missal": http://carrieetter.blogspot.com I hope you enjoy it and would love to have your comments on this or any other selection if you'd like to post a response. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:44:54 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Obododimma Oha Subject: Fwd: To Our Contributors - the HEALTH & ILLNESS Anthology In-Reply-To: <4b65c2d71003060819u264cd1bcsbd9cc4b8064576c3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are pleased to announce the HEALTH & ILLNESS Anthology with our felt acknowledgment to all those who sent their poems and visual work. An enormous accomplishment that is officially unveiled on a freezing Satur(n)/day here in the Alps and a terribly hot day in Nigeria, with an epileptic electricity supply that forces people to seek refuge under the trees outside: *=B7* Editorial - Obododimma Oha- *=B7* Editorial - Anny Ballardini- *=B7* Michael Rothenberg *=B7* Dennis Barone *=B7* Daniel Zimmerman & Mom *=B7* Ned Condini *=B7* Elizabeth Smither *=B7* Douglas Clark *=B7* Jeff Harrison *=B7* John M. Bennett *=B7* Tony Trigilio *=B7* Peter Ganick *=B7* Charlotte Mandel *=B7* Ingrid Wendt *=B7* Sohrab Sepehri *=B7* Geoffrey Gatza *=B7* Wendy Carlisle *=B7* Peter Ciccariello *=B7* Jim Leftwich *=B7* Marilyn Hacker *=B7* Ric Carfagne *=B7* Jessica Fiorini *=B7* George Bowering *=B7* M=E1rton Kopp=E1ny *=B7* Silvi= a Levenson *=B7* Jameela =91Nishat=92 *=B7* Hoshang Merchant *=B7* Halvard Johnson *= =B7* Meg Withers *=B7* Christina Pacosz *= =B7* Ruth Fainlight *=B7* Jerry McGuire *= =B7* Jerry McGuire - 2nd part *=B7* Evelyn Posamentier *=B7* Evelyn Posamentier 2nd Part *=B7* Wendy Vardaman *=B7* Malai= ka King Albrecht *=B7* Grzegorz Wr=F3blewski *=B7* Rebecca Seiferle *= =B7* Luc Fierens *= =B7* Helen Ruggieri *= =B7* Ed Baker *=B7= * Daniel Godston *= =B7* David Howard *= =B7* Fan Ogilvie *=B7* Christopher Flynn *=B7= * Nuri Gene Cos *=B7* Penelope Scambly Schott *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 1 *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 2 *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 3 *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 4 *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 5 *=B7* Eileen Tabios *=B7* Barry Alpert *=B7* Jean Vengua and Michael A. Fink *=B7* Kathrine Durham Oldmixon *=B7* Sarah Rae * =B7* harry k stammer *=B7* Amy MacLennan *=B7* Margo Berdeshevsky *=B7* Obiwu *=B7* Marco Giovenale = *=B7* Tom Savage *= =B7* Richard Dillon *= =B7* Drew Riley *=B7= * Richard M. Berlin = *=B7* Sola Olatunji *= =B7* Musa Idris Okpanachi *=B7* Elizabeth Oakes *=B7* Marian Veverka *=B7* Judith E. Johnson *=B7* Penny Harter *=B7* Emma Bolden *=B7* Marjory Wentworth *=B7* Obododimma Oha With our best wishes, The Editors Obododimma Oha and Anny Ballardini --=20 Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome http://www.lulu.com/content/5806078 http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche =AB Stulta est clementia, cum tot ubique vatibus occurras, periturae parcere chartae =BB Giovenale --=20 Obododimma Oha http://udude.wordpress.com/ Dept. of English University of Ibadan Nigeria & Fellow, Centre for Peace & Conflict Studies University of Ibadan Phone: +234 803 333 1330; +234 805 350 6604; +234 808 264 8060. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:19:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Martha Deed Subject: New chap -- The Lost Shoe- Martha Deed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Martha Deed goes where no poet has gone before. Combining cut-up and court transcript, oscillating deftly back and forth between textual poetry and visual poetry, adopting voice after effective voice, she brings us a gut-punch orb of truth where only the names have been changed, though the innocent remain unprotected. An excerpt: *Poppycock* Leave your common sense outside the door do not speculate what I say is not evidence the judge will instruct you on the law when I shout at the murder victim's mother do not hold it against me or take it out on my client sitting here in prison pallor, gray suit and tie so you will not know he is in custody I am only doing my job even a dead child’s mother can lie wouldn't you agree and her lies could put my client behind bars his freedom is at stake his innocence so important I will tell you what to think which facts you should ignore do not speculate I say leave your common sense outside the door —Martha Deed http://chapbookpublisher.com/shop.html 48 pages. $10, includes standard shipping within the Continental USA. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:05:56 -0500 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: new from above/ground press: Marcus McCann Town in a long day of leaving by Marcus McCann $3 Originally published by on the event of the authors relocation to Toronto from Ottawa by The Onion Union, November 2009; republished in Ottawa by above/ground press in an edition of 200 copies, March 2010; a/g subscribers receive a complimentary copy (2010 subscriptions still available); to order, send cheques (add $1 for postage; outside Canada, $2) c/o rob mclennan, 858 Somerset Street West, main floor, Ottawa ON K1R 6R7, or check out rob_mclennan@hotmail.com Point system We are all the same is the moral of the story. All men are the same is the moral of the story, but it is not good news. Strangers should never be encouraged is the moral of the story. Lose and forfeit your job is the moral of the story. Come off hard is the moral of the story. The wolf lives and probably will get you is the moral of the story. Resistance is justified is the moral of the story. Your but Google is the moral of the story is the complete opposite of the truth. Think before you act is the moral of the story. The last line of the play is, The moral of the story isnt get along; its get to know your neighbor. Marcus McCann lived in Ottawa for eight years. Evidence: he published poems in Ottawa-based journals including Bywords, Yawp, the Ottawa Arts Review, The Moose & Pussy, Peter F Yacht Club and Ottawater; performed at the citys reading series, including the Dusty Owl, Tree, Factory and the Ottawa International Writers Festival; worked with Ottawas Chaudiere Books to put out his first trade collection, Soft Where; won the John Newlove Award; hosted CKCUs Literary Landscapes; organized the Transgress Festival and the Naughty Thoughts Book Club; won the University of Ottawas 48 hour novella writing contest; worked with local writing group Ampers&; sold work at the Ottawa Small Press Book Fair; and shopped at Ottawas independent bookstores, including After Stonewall, Collected Works, Mother Tongue, Nicholas Hoare and Venus Envy. http://www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/ -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:09:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Joel Weishaus Subject: "The Gateless Gate" Concluding Pages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends and Colleagues: These are the concluding pages [10 texts/ten images] of "The Gateless = Gate": http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/Gate-R/Pgs%2051-52R.htm From the beginning: http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/Gate-R/Cover-R.htm Entire project at archive site: http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/weishaus/Gate-R/Cover-R.htm [Best viewed with MS Explorer browser; text size : medium] Thank you so much for your readings and critiques, as The Gateless Gate developed over the past year.=20 My Warm Regards. Joel =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:29:45 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Comments: RFC822 error: Invalid RFC822 field - "My review (http://larspalm.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/george-views-t=". Rest of header flushed. From: george spencer Subject: Re: horse songs complete, an interview, & new blog postings In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0=0AMy review (http://larspalm.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/george-views-t= he-perfect-dark/) of Susan Maurer=E2=80=99s perfect dark (http://ungovernab= lepress.weebly.com/uploads/2/1/2/2/2122174/perfect_dark.pdf) is up on Lars = Palm=E2=80=99s site.=0AGeorge Spencer=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________= _________=0AFrom: Jerome Rothenberg =0ATo: POETICS@LIS= TSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0ASent: Thu, March 4, 2010 5:40:18 PM=0ASubject: horse so= ngs complete, an interview, & new blog postings=0A=0AI have two new appeara= nces of work in magazines (online and off) that may be of interest to some = here:=0A=0A=0A(1) All of the translation-derived versions of Navajo horse-s= ongs (five in all) in the current issue of Bombay Gin out of Naropa.=C2=A0 = These have never appeared together except in an artist's version back in th= e 1970s and are presented here, along with my "total translation" essay, th= rough the good offices of Andrew Schelling and Amy Catanzano.=C2=A0 =0A=0A(= Copies can be ordered by checking their web site: http://www.naropa.edu/bom= baygin/about.cfm)=0A=0A=0A=0A(2) A new interview conducted by Mark Weiss an= d presently posted on Aryanil Mukherjee's Kaurab magazine (http://www.kaura= b.com/english/interviews/rothenberg.html).=C2=A0 This gives me a particular= chance to speak for an international school of poetry and poetics, plus so= me other things.=0A=0A=0A=0AIn addition, a few recent postings on my Poems = and Poetics blog (poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com), excluding various postings= of my own work, might also be of interest here, e.g. =0A=0A=0A=0A2010-03-0= 1: Marjorie Perloff, An Afterword for Rae Armantrout=0A=0A2010-02-25: Outsi= der Poems, a Mini-Anthology in Progress (13): American Sign Language as a M= edium for Poetry =0A=0A2010-02-21: Reconfiguring Romanticism (37): Jack Fol= ey on "Hamlet, Keats, and La Conscience de Soi" =0A=0A2010-02-17: Abdellati= f La=C3=A2bi: from Fragments of a Forgotten Genesis =0A=0A2010-02-09: John = Bloomberg-Rissman: from No Sounds of My Own Making=C2=A0 =0A=0A2010-02-05: = Homero Aridjis: Poems of the Double =0A=0A2010-02-01: Christine Meilicke: B= urrowing In, Digging Out: Digging Out Rose Drachler =0A=0A2010-01-28: Rober= t Kelly: Three poems from "Fire Exit," with a note in celebration =0A=0A201= 0-01-24: Ahira Tatehata: Seven Poems, with a note in praise of ... =0A=0A20= 10-01-17: Reconfiguring Romanticism (36): Jacques Darras, We Are all German= Romantics =0A=0A2010-01-13: Aim=C3=A9 C=C3=A9saire: Three Poems Newly Tran= slated by Eshleman & Arnold =0A=0A2010-01-09: Nathaniel Tarn: From Anthropo= logist to Informant, a Field Record of Gary Snyder =0A=0A=0A=0AForthcoming = postings for March and April include work by myself and by Haroldo de Campo= s, David-Baptiste Chirot, Jeffrey C. Robinson, Christine Wertheim, Jack Fol= ey, George Quasha, Rose Drachler, Moira Roth, David Meltzer, Hiromi Ito, Pa= ul Celan, Osip Mandelstam, Pierre Joris, and Lewis Carroll.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A2010-01-09: Nathaniel Tarn: From Anthropologist to Informant, a Fi= eld Record of Gary Snyder =0A=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0AThe Poetics = List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub= info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=0A=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:12:26 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Anny Ballardini Subject: Re: the HEALTH & ILLNESS Anthology In-Reply-To: <4b65c2d71003060824p2e456e3aycaa3b7c17efee896@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And the direct link to the Anthology: http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3DContent&pa=3Dlist_pages_catego= ries&cid=3D361 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Anny Ballardini wrote: > We are pleased to announce the HEALTH & ILLNESS Anthology with our felt > acknowledgment to all those who sent their poems and visual work. An > enormous accomplishment that is officially unveiled on a freezing > Satur(n)/day here in the Alps and a terribly hot day in Nigeria, with an > epileptic electricity supply that forces people to seek refuge under the > trees outside: > > > > *=B7* Editorial - Obododimma Oha- > *=B7* Editorial - Anny Ballardini- > *=B7* Michael Rothenberg > *=B7* Dennis Barone > *=B7* Daniel Zimmerman & Mom > *=B7* Ned Condini > *=B7* Elizabeth Smither > *=B7* Douglas Clark > *=B7* Jeff Harrison > *=B7* John M. Bennett > *=B7* Tony Trigilio > *=B7* Peter Ganick > *=B7* Charlotte Mandel > *=B7* Ingrid Wendt > *=B7* Sohrab Sepehri > *=B7* Geoffrey Gatza > *=B7* Wendy Carlisle > *=B7* Peter Ciccariello > *=B7* Jim Leftwich > *=B7* Marilyn Hacker > *=B7* Ric Carfagne > *=B7* Jessica Fiorini > *=B7* George Bowering > *=B7* M=E1rton Kopp=E1ny > *=B7* Sil= via > Levenson = *=B7* Jameela > =91Nishat=92 *=B7* Hoshang > Merchant = *=B7* Halvard > Johnson = *=B7* Meg > Withers = *=B7* Christina > Pacosz *= =B7* Ruth > Fainlight *=B7* Jerry > McGuire = *=B7* Jerry > McGuire - 2nd part > *=B7* Evelyn Posamentier > *=B7* Evelyn Posamentier 2nd Part > *=B7* Wendy Vardaman > *=B7* Mal= aika > King Albrecht > *=B7* Grzegorz Wr=F3blewski > *=B7* Rebecca Seiferle > *=B7* Luc Fierens > *=B7* Helen Ruggieri > *=B7* Ed Baker > *=B7* Daniel Godston > *=B7* David Howard > *=B7* Fan Ogilvie > *=B7* Christopher Flynn > *=B7* Nuri Gene Cos > *=B7* Penelope Scambly Schott > *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 1 > *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 2 > *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 3 > *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 4 > *=B7* Alan Sondheim Part 5 > *=B7* Eileen Tabios > *=B7* Barry Alpert > *=B7* Jean Vengua and Michael A. Fink > *=B7* Kathrine Durham Oldmixon > *=B7* Sarah Rae > *=B7* harry k stammer > *=B7* Amy MacLennan > *=B7* Margo Berdeshevsky > *=B7* Obiwu *=B7* Marco > Giovenale *=B7* Tom > Savage *= =B7* Richard > Dillon *= =B7* Drew > Riley *= =B7* Richard > M. Berlin *=B7* Sola > Olatunji = *=B7* Musa > Idris Okpanachi > *=B7* Eli= zabeth > Oakes *= =B7* Marian > Veverka = *=B7* Judith > E. Johnson *=B7 > * Penny Harter > *=B7* Emma Bolden > *=B7* Marjory Wentworth > *=B7* Obododimma Oha > > > > With our best wishes, > > The Editors > > > > Obododimma Oha and Anny Ballardini > > > > -- > Anny Ballardini > http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ > http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome > http://www.lulu.com/content/5806078 > http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html > I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing > star! > Friedrich Nietzsche > > =AB Stulta est clementia, cum tot ubique > vatibus occurras, periturae parcere chartae =BB > Giovenale > > --=20 Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome http://www.lulu.com/content/5806078 http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche =AB Stulta est clementia, cum tot ubique vatibus occurras, periturae parcere chartae =BB Giovenale =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:05:28 -0500 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: above/ground press: state of the union, a note on near-seventeen years of publishing activity, http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/2010/03/aboveground-press-state-of-union.html rob -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:21:22 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nicholas Karavatos Subject: Faculty Positions and Department Head for the Department of Visual and Performing Arts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Faculty Positions and Department Head for the Department of Visual and Perf= orming Arts=20 Head of Department of Performing Arts =20 The American University of Sharjah is inviting applications for a Head of D= epartment of Performing Arts beginning Fall 2010. The candidate should poss= es an understanding of international trends in performing arts education as= well as performance experience on the university level. The role of the HO= D will be to lead an exciting new performing arts program=2C begun in Fall = 2007. The candidate should possess a doctorate or equivalent terminal degre= e in either Music or Theatre=2C strong communication skills=2C and proven a= dministrative experience. This individual will also be expected to teach in= one area of expertise within the department. AUS is located approximately = twenty kilometers from Dubai. Please forward a CV=2C cover letter and list = of three references to: cashr@aus.edu =20 =20 =20 Technical Director/Scenic and Lighting Designer=20 =20 Theatre: The American University of Sharjah is inviting faculty applicatio= ns for a Technical Director/Scenic and Lighting Designer to begin in Fall 2= 010. Responsibilities: teach courses in Theatre Appreciation=2C Stage Manag= ement=2C Stagecraft I and II=2C and other courses at the undergraduate leve= l=3B supervise technical elements of theatre and music events affiliated wi= th the Department of Performing Arts=3B design and construct scenic and lig= hting elements for theatre productions=3B comprehension of and experience i= mplementing sound elements is a plus. This individual will be instrumental = in writing new courses in technical theatre and developing a theatre progra= m begun in January 2008. Minimum qualifications: MFA in theatre design=3B t= eaching experience=3B excellent communication and organizational skills=3B = competency in scenic design=2C stage lighting=2C sound applications=3B abil= ity to work collegially within a liberal arts setting=3B professional exper= ience as scenic=2C lighting and or sound designer preferred. Candidate shou= ld submit a scenic/lighting/sound design portfolio with CV. Please forward = a CV=2C cover letter and list of three references to: cashr@aus.edu =20 =20 =20 Piano Faculty =20 Music: The American University of Sharjah is inviting applications for a fu= ll-time piano faculty for the 2010-2011 academic year. Responsibilities: te= ach applied lessons and group class at the undergraduate level=3B teach cou= rses in piano literature or general music literature depending on applicant= =92s qualifications=3B possible collaboration with voice students and chora= l ensemble. This individual will be instrumental in writing new courses and= creating a dynamic vision for the Visual and Performing Arts Program. The = candidate will also serve on university committees as needed. Minimum qual= ifications: M.M. in piano or piano pedagogy=3B experience teaching in a non= -Western setting preferred=3B university level teaching experience=3B excel= lent communication and organizational skills=3B competency as a performer a= nd teacher=3B ability to work collegially within a liberal arts setting=3B = engagement in community building with a non-Western public preferred=3B wil= lingness to contribute to local music styles preferred. Please forward a CV= =2C cover letter and list of three references to: cashr@aus.edu =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:23:01 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nicholas Karavatos Subject: Department of English, Faculty Posts in ESP and EST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Department of English=2C Faculty Posts in ESP and EST =20 The Department of English at the American University of Sharjah seeks a ful= l-time faculty member with a specialty in English for Specific Purposes (ES= P) to teach courses in English for Business and English for Science & Techn= ology (EST). =20 The successful candidate will have a Ph D in a relevant field and a scholar= ly publication record. Preference will be given to applicants with experien= ce in outreach programs related to ESP & EST=2C teaching non-native English= speakers at the university level=2C and teaching in North American style u= niversities. Work experience in the industry is also a plus. =20 Interested applicants should send a letter of application (including a stat= ement of teaching experience and research interests)=2C curriculum vitae=2C= and the names and addresses of three referees to: Dr. William Heidcamp=2C = Dean=2C College of Arts & Sciences=2C e-mail: cashr@aus.edu =20 The American University of Sharjah (AUS) is accredited by the Commission on= Higher Education of the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools. For more information about AUS=2C please visit: http://www.aus.edu/about =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:24:18 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nicholas Karavatos Subject: Department of English, Faculty Posts in Literature Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Department of English=2C Faculty Posts in Literature =20 The Department of English at the American University of Sharjah seeks a ful= l-time faculty member with a Ph D and a scholarly publication record in Pos= tcolonial Literature or Anglophone Diaspora Literatures. The successful can= didate will be required to teach courses in advanced writing in addition to= courses in literature. Preference will be given to applicants with at leas= t five years teaching experience in North American style universities and w= ith experience in teaching non-native English speakers. =20 Interested applicants should send a letter of application (including a stat= ement of teaching experience and research interests)=2C curriculum vitae=2C= and the names and addresses of three referees to: Dr. William Heidcamp=2C = Dean=2C College of Arts & Sciences=2C e-mail: cashr@aus.edu =20 The American University of Sharjah (AUS) is accredited by the Commission on= Higher Education of the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools. For more information about AUS=2C please visit: http://www.aus.edu/about =20 http://www.aus.edu/employment/faculty_cas.php =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:42:06 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Interview with Tom Clark Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" There is an interview I did with Tom Clark at: http://vanitasmagazine.blogspot.com/2010/03/tc-american-abroad- england-in-mid.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:58:52 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: george spencer Subject: Review of Susan Maurer's perfect dark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My review (http://larspalm.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/george-views-the-perfec= t-dark/) of Susan Maurer=E2=80=99s perfect dark (http://ungovernablepress.w= eebly.com/uploads/2/1/2/2/2122174/perfect_dark.pdf) is up on Lars Palm=E2= =80=99s site.=0AGeorge Spencer=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:55:15 +1100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: John Tranter Subject: China: Bookworm International Literary Festival Comments: To: British-Irish Poets List Comments: cc: PoetryEtc discussion list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A polite note of warning to those rushing off to the China: Bookworm = International Literary Festival. Jacket magazine has been banned in = China for a decade. If you're discussing poetry in public or in private, = it might be best not to bring up Jacket as a topic: something harmless = like macrame, gardening or finger-painting would be a safer choice.=20 Oh, and don't admit you have HIV/AIDS if you have HIV/AIDS; Australian = writer Robert Dessaix was denied a visa last week after he had admitted = on his visa applicaiton form that he had HIV/AIDS.=20 Yours democratically,=20 = ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Tranter >> http://johntranter.com/ >> http://jacketmagazine.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:44:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: { brad brace } Subject: WATERS COLOURS Comments: To: Art Criticism Discussion Forum , webartery , fluxlist@yahoogroups.com, ART-ALL@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, 7-11@mail.ljudmila.org, fluxnexus@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII just finished my webpage for my watercolours that I've started to do on my trips -- a lot of fun for me without all the usual conceptual and 'project' baggage.... /:b http://bbrace.net/webgallerywc/wc.html http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/webgallerywc/wc.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:37:24 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Carrie Etter Subject: The final Infinite Difference sample, no. 10: Frances Kruk's concrete poem, "flux" Comments: To: British & Irish poets , pussipo@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's up at http://carrieetter.blogspot.com. I hope you enjoy it. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:14:52 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Al Filreis Subject: Susan Howe by live video stream - interactive webcast - March 23 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear friends: On Tuesday, March 23, beginning promptly at 10:30 AM Eastern Time, I will be interviewing and hosting a discussion with SUSAN HOWE. (Howe will be visiting the Kelly Writers House as the second of our three 2010 Writers House Fellows.) This program will be streamed live. There will be an audience at the Writers House in Philadelphia, but also a large online audience. Those watching the webcast will be able to pose questions to Susan Howe by email or telephone. If you want to participate, contact whfellow@writing.upenn.edu. We will give you instructions for logging on, etc. For more information: http://writing.upenn.edu/wh/people/fellows/ - Al Filreis Al Filreis Kelly Professor Faculty Dir., Kelly Writers House Dir., Center for Programs in Contemporary Writing University of Pennsylvania on the web: http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis blog: http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/blog PoemTalk: http://www.poemtalk.org get your daily Al: http://bit.ly/1UCfRp ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:46:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ann Stephenson Subject: <> READY SET READINGS at Whitespace Gallery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain READY SET READINGS at Whitespace Gallery BRUCE COVEY Friday, March 12th | 8:00pm {A limited number of letterpress books created especially for this event = will be given=20 away at the reading.} Bruce Covey's fourth and fifth books of poems, Glass Is Really a Liquid (= No Tell=20 Books) and Reveal (Black Radish) will both be out in 2010. He lives in A= tlanta,=20 Georgia, where he teaches at Emory University, edits Coconut Poetry, and = curates=20 the What's New in Poetry reading series.=20 Upcoming: April 16th - Kostas Anagnopoulos READY SET READINGS at Whitespace is committed to new and innovative writi= ng. WHITESPACE - 814 Edgewood Avenue Northeast - Atlanta, GA 30307 404.688.1892 http://www.whitespace814.com/ http://whitespace814.blogspot.com/2010/03/poet-bruce-covey-at-whitespace.= html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:44:31 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: From Ron Silliman's post on International Women's Day Comments: To: "Discussion of Women\\'s Poetry List" , "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hate to admit that this situation was perceived, at least by myself & the= male poets I knew, as =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D back in the 1960s, but it w= as...=0A=0A=0ASo that when Kathleen Fraser =E2=80=93 that name again =E2=80= =93 joined with some like-minded friends in 1983 to create HOW(ever), the t= iming was perfect: it proved to be an epoch-making event...=0A=0A=0AStill, = nothing has done more to change =E2=80=93 blur, to some degree even erase = =E2=80=93 the faultlines for poetry in my lifetime than the mass emergence = of women writing. For all of the problems that I have with the concept of h= ybridity in poetry, I can=E2=80=99t escape the fact that for many writers, = especially those younger than myself, the bifurcation of poetry into two co= unter-posing traditions is experienced as a quarrel among men (white men at= that), and that the landscape of poetry in the English language now looks = entirely different.=0A=0ANot that all is perfect. Far from it. It is still = possible to have a major award shortlist that consists entirely of men, eve= n though everyone now seems to concede that the absolute majority of poets = writing in English are women. Further, this disparity continues to turn up = in some of the ways women writers express themselves. Of the 1192 active bl= ogs on my blogroll, 392 are written by women, slightly under 33 percent. Fo= r the next week, the top list on my new links page will consist of nothing = but these women (and, knowing Blogger, that may be the only list visible). = Now, it=E2=80=99s conceivable that one of the reasons for this disparity is= me =E2=80=93 if I=E2=80=99m missing anyone, send me an email and let me kn= ow. It=E2=80=99s also true that not all of the collective blogs are exclusi= vely by men =E2=80=93 Give a Fig missed this list because one of its 13 con= tributors is male. But the distance between the 25 percent figure that mark= ed the participation by women in In the American Tree in 1986 and the 32.9 percent in my blogroll 24 years later is not the= sign of a successful revolution so much as it is of one still very much in= process.=0AWomen who blog about poetry, poetics & the arts=0A=0ACONT -- ht= tp://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/03/early-editors-of-however-l-to-r-bev.h= tml=0A=0A=0A=0A _______=0A=0ABOOK=0A=0ASlaves to Do These Things-- http://w= ww.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm =0A=0ARANT =0A=0A"My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -= - http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html=0A=0A=0AESSAY =0A= =0A"The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winte= r_2009/prose/A_King.html=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:30:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Paul Siegell Subject: Mar 9th! Poets Bojan Louis and Matt Shindell @ the Bubble House Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" IF IT'S MARCH 9TH, IT'S TONIGHT!=20 Painted Bride Quarterly is pleased to present a poetry reading on Tuesday= , March 9th at 7:30 p.m. at Bubble House (3404 Sansom St., Phila., 19104) w= ith poets Matthew Shindell and Bojan Louis, hoping for no snow this time arou= nd. MATT SHINDELL's first full-length book of poems, "In Another Castle," was= a finalist for the 2008 Tupelo Press First Book Award. He is currently a Fellow at the Chemical Heritage Foundation here in Philadelphia. BOJAN LOUIS is Dine (Navajo) originally from Arizona where he worked as a= general contractor and electrician. He holds an MFA from Arizona State University. His work, most recently, has appeared in The Kenyon Review. H= e's currently at work on a collection of short fictions and a collection of p= oetry. For more information, see: http://www.pbq.drexel.edu, or write: pbq@drexe= l.edu. hope to see you there, paul> http://paulsiegell.blogspot.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:22:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: UbuWeb Subject: Marjorie Perloff Picks UbuWeb=?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=99s_?= Top Ten for March 2010 Comments: cc: ubuweb@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2010/03/marjorie-perloff-picks-ubuw= eb-top-ten-for-march/=0A=0A1. Ernst Jandl, Bist eulen?=0Ahttp://ubu.com/so= und/jandl.html=0A=0A2. William Kentridge =E2=80=93 Stereoscope=0Ahttp://ubu= .com/film/kentridge_stereoscope.html=0A=0A3. Samuel Beckett =E2=80=93 Quadr= at 1+2=0Ahttp://ubu.com/film/beckett_quad.html=0A=0A4. Cheryl Donegan =E2= =80=93 Refuses=0Ahttp://www.ubu.com/film/donegan_refuses.html=0A=0A5. Verbi= VocoVisual Concrete Poetry and Music (1956-1970)=0Ahttp://ubu.com/sound/noi= gandres.html=0A=0A6. Merce Cunningham =E2=80=93 Points in Space (1986)=0Aht= tp://ubu.com/film/cunningham_points.html=0A=0A7. Robert Smithson and Nancy = Holt =E2=80=93 Mono Lake=0Ahttp://ubu.com/film/smithson_mono.html=0A=0A8. C= aroline Bergvall, Via and About Face=0Ahttp://www.ubu.com/sound/bergvall.ht= ml=0A=0A9. Derek Beaulieu -=E2=80=9Dan afterword after words: notes towards= a `concrete poetic=E2=80=9D [PDF]=0Ahttp://www.ubu.com/papers/beaulieu_con= crete_commentary.pdf=0A=0A10. =C3=96yvind Fahlstr=C3=B6m =E2=80=93 Manifest= o for Concrete Poetry (1952-55)=0Ahttp://www.ubu.com/papers/fahlstrom01.htm= l=0A=0AMarjorie Perloff co-edited with Craig Dworkin THE SOUND OF POETRY/TH= E POETRY OF SOUND (Chicago, 2009). Her UNORIGINAL GENIUS: POETRY BY OTHER = MEANS IN THE NEW CENTURY will be published in Fall 2010.=0A=0AUbuWeb can be= found at http://ubu.com=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:04:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: How to Say What You Haven't Yet Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Response in kind -- http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/how-to-say-what-you-havent/ Enjoy! Amy _______ BOOK Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm RANT "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html ESSAY "The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:31:28 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/two-poets-earning-their-keep/ Answers/speculations/questions welcome! Amy _______ BOOK Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm RANT "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html ESSAY "The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:54:07 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: 3 new chaps out from propaganda press/alternating current MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit just out from propaganda press: 3 new chapbooks 1. sunday afternoon on the isle of museum by yuko otomo (cover art by yuko) 2. the insomnia poems - midnite/noon -for/after lousie bourgeois by steve dalachinsky (cover art by yuko) 3. invasion of the animal people by steve dalachinsky (poems and collage by steve) go to alt-current.com or backchannel steve if ya want more info ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:54:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Laura Hinton Subject: Re: From Ron Silliman's post on International Women's Day In-Reply-To: <549856.14589.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks, Amy, for posting Ron's bit. Here is one response: chantdelasirene.com And in "celebration" of Women's History Month and the younger women among us, you can check out my recently expanded and revised review of Nona Aronowitz and Emma Bee Bernstein's *Girldrive*, also in the Poetry Project Newsletter ("The 'Strangeness' of *Girldrive*") : http://www.chantdelasirene.com/2010/02/strangeness-of-girldrive.html Laura -- Laura Hinton Professor of English City College of New York 138 at Convent Ave. New York, New York 10031 http://www.mermaidtenementpress.com http://www.chantdelasirene.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:09:16 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: horse songs complete, an interview, & new blog postings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit just out from propaganda press: 2 new chapbooks 1. sunday afternoon on the isle of museum by yuko otomo (cover art by yuko) 2. invasion of the animal people by steve dalachinsky (poems and collage by steve) go to alt-current.com On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:29:45 -0800 george spencer writes: > > My review > (http://larspalm.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/george-views-the-perfect-dark/) > of Susan Maurer’s perfect dark > (http://ungovernablepress.weebly.com/uploads/2/1/2/2/2122174/perfect_dark .pdf) > is up on Lars Palm’s site. > George Spencer > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jerome Rothenberg > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 5:40:18 PM > Subject: horse songs complete, an interview, & new blog postings > > I have two new appearances of work in magazines (online and off) > that may be of interest to some here: > > > (1) All of the translation-derived versions of Navajo horse-songs > (five in all) in the current issue of Bombay Gin out of Naropa. > These have never appeared together except in an artist's version > back in the 1970s and are presented here, along with my "total > translation" essay, through the good offices of Andrew Schelling and > Amy Catanzano. > > (Copies can be ordered by checking their web site: > http://www.naropa.edu/bombaygin/about.cfm) > > > > (2) A new interview conducted by Mark Weiss and presently posted on > Aryanil Mukherjee's Kaurab magazine > (http://www.kaurab.com/english/interviews/rothenberg.html). This > gives me a particular chance to speak for an international school of > poetry and poetics, plus some other things. > > > > In addition, a few recent postings on my Poems and Poetics blog > (poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com), excluding various postings of my own > work, might also be of interest here, e.g. > > > > 2010-03-01: Marjorie Perloff, An Afterword for Rae Armantrout > > 2010-02-25: Outsider Poems, a Mini-Anthology in Progress (13): > American Sign Language as a Medium for Poetry > > 2010-02-21: Reconfiguring Romanticism (37): Jack Foley on "Hamlet, > Keats, and La Conscience de Soi" > > 2010-02-17: Abdellatif Laâbi: from Fragments of a Forgotten Genesis > > 2010-02-09: John Bloomberg-Rissman: from No Sounds of My Own > Making > > 2010-02-05: Homero Aridjis: Poems of the Double > > 2010-02-01: Christine Meilicke: Burrowing In, Digging Out: Digging > Out Rose Drachler > > 2010-01-28: Robert Kelly: Three poems from "Fire Exit," with a note > in celebration > > 2010-01-24: Ahira Tatehata: Seven Poems, with a note in praise of > ... > > 2010-01-17: Reconfiguring Romanticism (36): Jacques Darras, We Are > all German Romantics > > 2010-01-13: Aimé Césaire: Three Poems Newly Translated by Eshleman > & Arnold > > 2010-01-09: Nathaniel Tarn: From Anthropologist to Informant, a > Field Record of Gary Snyder > > > > Forthcoming postings for March and April include work by myself and > by Haroldo de Campos, David-Baptiste Chirot, Jeffrey C. Robinson, > Christine Wertheim, Jack Foley, George Quasha, Rose Drachler, Moira > Roth, David Meltzer, Hiromi Ito, Paul Celan, Osip Mandelstam, Pierre > Joris, and Lewis Carroll. > > > > > > > > 2010-01-09: Nathaniel Tarn: From Anthropologist to Informant, a > Field Record of Gary Snyder > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:38:33 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jonathan Ball Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... In-Reply-To: <197784.24062.qm@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm always disappointed by these "buck-a-poem" projects. Is poetry worthless? Does it not require time, dedication, hours, days, weeks? I will write anybody a poem for $1000. Jonathan On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:31 PM, amy king wrote: > http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/two-poets-earning-their-keep/ > > Answers/speculations/questions welcome! > > Amy > > _______ > > BOOK > > Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm > > RANT > > "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- > http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html > > > ESSAY > > "The What Else"-- > http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King= .html > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > --=20 Dr. Jonathan Ball, Ph.D. (English) Sessional Instructor University of Manitoba University of Winnipeg www.jonathanball.com EX MACHINA is out now! Visit the publisher's page: http://www.bookthug.ca/proddetail.php?prod=3D200915 Visit the McNally Robinson page: http://www.mcnallyrobinson.com/product/category/0/item/558194/ Visit the Amazon page: http://www.amazon.ca/Ex-Machina-Jonathan-Ball/dp/1897388489/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie= =3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D1257005873&sr=3D8-1 =93If someone tells you writing is easy, he is either lying or I hate him.= =94 -- Farley Mowat =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:23:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Comments: RFC822 error: Invalid RFC822 field - "Dear Snežana,". Rest of header flushed. From: amy king Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <2fa274de1003050502w7b68e556s41c0114348bf7b29@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Haha! That's one way of doing it! Of course, y= =0ADear Sne=C5=BEana,=0A=0AHaha! That's one way of doing it! Of course, y= ou might see similar behavior as those first poets you mention at AWP each = year... =0A=0AAs for the occasional poems, yes, I think this does happen no= w and then, if one is lucky. Of course, the poets commissioned are likely = something of a "name" and ergo not likely in dire need of money to survive = on. The capitalist catch...=0A=0AI'd be curious to know if Croats and Serb= s are still commissioned at all. One of my fellow faculty members, Mario S= usko, is a well known poet there but not as much here. He often flies to C= roatia and, I believe, Serbia, for public readings, etc. I don't think he = is commissioned to write poems though. He does often write about the war t= hough. Are many poets there not doing so?=0A=0ABest,=0AAmy=0A=0AFrom: Nana= Zabic =0A=0AAmy, I remember when I was a kid in SFR Yugoslavia, poets (bad= , of=0Acourse, but not only poets, writers of all kinds) would tour schools= =0Aand community centers all over the country, read, sell and sign books,= =0Aand I believe they were getting paid for that either by their=0Astate-ow= ned publisher or some state agency. Then they'd get drunk at=0Athe local "b= ohemian" bar/restaurant with the provincial amateur=0Aliterati, sleep in so= me dingy hotel room, and then hit the road again=0Ain the morning. Or they = wouldn't get drunk, that depends.=0A=0AAlso growing up, I saw all kinds of = grave commemorations of the=0Aanti-fascist struggle and workers revolution = in Yugoslavia that=0Aregularly featured poems written especially for the oc= casion, and read=0Aby famous actors. It was always televised. But I'm talki= ng about=0Aancient history in a non-existent land, maybe I'm just weaving a= myth=0Aout of my unreliable memories. Go figure!=0A=0ABut poets in the US = even nowadays get commissioned to write occasional=0Apoems, don't they? Not= just Elizabeth Alexander. Although I don't know=0Aif they get paid for it.= I remember (and this is not a myth) when a=0Anew chancellor was inaugurate= d at UNC Wilmington in the early 2000s,=0Athey commissioned a poem by a UNC= Greensboro professor of creative=0Awriting. He read an ode that heavily ut= ilized various words that=0Aend-rhyme with WilmINGTON. You'd be surprised h= ow many words he came=0Aup with. I attended the inauguration because my rol= e was to walk with=0Aother international students, each one of us carrying = a flag of a=0Aforeign country to show off how cosmopolitan the school was.= =0A=0ASne=C5=BEana=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Lars Palm wrote:=0A> when i lived in gran canaria i wrote some poems= for pay. i simply sat down=0A> in a crowded place with a sign saying that = for 5 euro i'd write a poem in 5=0A> minutes on any subject they'd give me.= of course they all turned out=0A> horrible, but for a few weeks it got me = enough money for food & things=0A>=0A> it appears that some english poets g= et commissioned by radio, tv & such=0A> quite regularly=0A>=0A>=0A> http://= larspalm.wordpress.com=0A>=0A> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A> The Poetic= s List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/uns= ub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=0A>=0A=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0AThe Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts= . Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome= .html=0A=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:26:20 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <461e0fe1003042122u2aea21cdt3e6ffbb1eb31c7f9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, I often wonder how many poets go into advertising. And if that gig takes the poetry out of people... As for the latter bit on "for-a-commission" - is that even possible? Seems like there is something of that market, or the seeds of it, via those contests. Maybe. Best, Amy From: Adam Katz Recently I've noticed some advertisements that appear to be in poem-y format. For example: http://www.qf.org.qa/think/Think.pdf And it's pretty kind of good! Maybe the way to get commissioned to write poems is to think about things they could be *used* for. Though I'm aware this idea of use is maybe taboo or incompatible with our for-its-own-sake mentality. If for-its-own-sake is what poetry is, then it's not commissionable. If for-a-commission is what we would like it to be, then we must think in terms of identifying, inspiring, and inventing market demand. a ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:51:13 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Glass Subject: With + Stand 4: the Lisa Robertson Issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "We always dream in colour. This is part of the history of surfaces." =97*How to Colour, *The Office for Soft Architecture With + Stand is thrilled to announce the publication of its fourth issue, devoted to the work of the great poet of materials and magenta, Lisa Robertson. Featuring essays and poetry by Stephanie Young, Scott Sweeney, Dan Thomas-Glass, Brian Ang, Anne Lesley Selcer, Alli Warren, Erika Staiti, Michael Marcinowski, Brian Mornar, Melissa Mack, Charles Legere, Jamey Jones, Richard Meier, Sam Lohmann, Alyssa Wolff, Sara Marcus, and Phoebe Wayne, as well as new work by Lisa Robertson. The journal will be available to the public at a reading and release party, featuring Lisa Robertson and journal contributors: *Sunday, March 21st, 7-9pm* * Urban Ore EcoPark* * 900 Murray St* * Berkeley, CA* * *The reading, like the journal, is free. Details=97 With + Stand: http://withplusstand.blogspot.com/ Urban Ore: http://urbanore.ypguides.net/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:54:12 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Ellis Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No poet should be selling a poem here and a poem there for a buck=2C a hund= red=2C a thousand=2C etc. dollars. Poets ought to be supported by the 21st= Century equivalent of royalty and courts: The banks. They should also con= spire with the banks that support them to steal as much money as possible f= rom the banks that don't support either the poet or his representative bank= =2C while at the same time=2C using his new-found wealth and common wit to = conspire with as many non-bankers (and/or non-poets=2C spontaneous non-poet= poets=2C etc.) as seem willing=2C to blow up both the banks that support h= im and the banks that don't: The corporate world of American poetry: May we= watch it fall apart=2C or be blasted to smithereens? Be a tourist=2C a th= eorist=2C a terrorist. Light the fuse=2C keep it short=2C but just be sure= to smile when you say that=2C Miss=2C or Brother. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me =20 > Date: Tue=2C 9 Mar 2010 16:38:33 -0600 > From: azreel1138@GMAIL.COM > Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > I'm always disappointed by these "buck-a-poem" projects. Is poetry > worthless? Does it not require time=2C dedication=2C hours=2C days=2C wee= ks? I will > write anybody a poem for $1000. >=20 > Jonathan >=20 >=20 > On Tue=2C Mar 9=2C 2010 at 4:31 PM=2C amy king wro= te: >=20 > > http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/two-poets-earning-their-keep/ > > > > Answers/speculations/questions welcome! > > > > Amy > > > > _______ > > > > BOOK > > > > Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm > > > > RANT > > > > "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- > > http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html > > > > > > ESSAY > > > > "The What Else"-- > > http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_Ki= ng.html > > > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidel= ines > > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Dr. Jonathan Ball=2C Ph.D. (English) > Sessional Instructor > University of Manitoba > University of Winnipeg >=20 > www.jonathanball.com >=20 > EX MACHINA is out now! > Visit the publisher's page: > http://www.bookthug.ca/proddetail.php?prod=3D200915 > Visit the McNally Robinson page: > http://www.mcnallyrobinson.com/product/category/0/item/558194/ > Visit the Amazon page: > http://www.amazon.ca/Ex-Machina-Jonathan-Ball/dp/1897388489/ref=3Dsr_1_1?= ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D1257005873&sr=3D8-1 >=20 > =93If someone tells you writing is easy=2C he is either lying or I hate h= im.=94 -- > Farley Mowat >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:05:18 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <791504.90318.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As you may know, I write a great deal of occasional verse, and a lot of it makes its way into my books (especially Vauxhall and Locket thus far). -- All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:14:11 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mary Kasimor Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <791504.90318.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got into this conversation...one of my master's thesis was on advert= ising and poetry. I was looking at very old ads from the Lady's Home Journa= l. Some of the language was quite interesting, and well, poetic. I do think= , though, that a poet would become quite ill writing copy for advertisments= . I also wrote copy for radio ads and that was very boring. I do remember h= aving to figure out how to get as many words into a 30 or 60 second ad. =A0 Mary Kasimor=A0 =A0 --- On Tue, 3/9/10, amy king wrote: From: amy king Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 5:26 PM Yes, I often wonder how many poets go into advertising.=A0 And if that gig = takes the poetry out of people... As for the latter bit on "for-a-commission" - is that even possible?=A0 See= ms like there is something of that market, or the seeds of it, via those co= ntests.=A0 Maybe.=A0=20 Best, Amy From: Adam Katz Recently I've noticed some advertisements that appear to be in poem-y format. For example: http://www.qf.org.qa/think/Think.pdf And it's pretty kind of good! Maybe the way to get commissioned to write poems is to think about things they could be *used* for.=A0 Though I'm aware this idea of use is maybe tab= oo or incompatible with our for-its-own-sake mentality. If for-its-own-sake is what poetry is, then it's not commissionable. If for-a-commission is what we would like it to be, then we must think in terms of identifying, inspiring, and inventing market demand. a =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =A0 =A0 =A0=20 =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:26:14 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Crane's Bill Books Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I misread the subject line as 'On poets "eating their keepers"...' Finally! Jeffrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Ellis" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:54 PM Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... No poet should be selling a poem here and a poem there for a buck, a hundred, a thousand, etc. dollars. Poets ought to be supported by the 21st Century equivalent of royalty and courts: The banks. They should also conspire with the banks that support them to steal as much money as possible from the banks that don't support either the poet or his representative bank, while at the same time, using his new-found wealth and common wit to conspire with as many non-bankers (and/or non-poets, spontaneous non-poet poets, etc.) as seem willing, to blow up both the banks that support him and the banks that don't: The corporate world of American poetry: May we watch it fall apart, or be blasted to smithereens? Be a tourist, a theorist, a terrorist. Light the fuse, keep it short, but just be sure to smile when you say that, Miss, or Brother. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:38:33 -0600 > From: azreel1138@GMAIL.COM > Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > I'm always disappointed by these "buck-a-poem" projects. Is poetry > worthless? Does it not require time, dedication, hours, days, weeks? I > will > write anybody a poem for $1000. > > Jonathan > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:31 PM, amy king wrote: > > > http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/two-poets-earning-their-keep/ > > > > Answers/speculations/questions welcome! > > > > Amy > > > > _______ > > > > BOOK > > > > Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm > > > > RANT > > > > "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- > > http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html > > > > > > ESSAY > > > > "The What Else"-- > > http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > > guidelines > > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > -- > Dr. Jonathan Ball, Ph.D. (English) > Sessional Instructor > University of Manitoba > University of Winnipeg > > www.jonathanball.com > > EX MACHINA is out now! > Visit the publisher's page: > http://www.bookthug.ca/proddetail.php?prod=200915 > Visit the McNally Robinson page: > http://www.mcnallyrobinson.com/product/category/0/item/558194/ > Visit the Amazon page: > http://www.amazon.ca/Ex-Machina-Jonathan-Ball/dp/1897388489/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257005873&sr=8-1 > > “If someone tells you writing is easy, he is either lying or I hate > him.” -- > Farley Mowat > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:14:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Daniel Zimmerman Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=original You da bomb, Stephen. ~ Dan Zimmerman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Ellis" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:54 PM Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... No poet should be selling a poem here and a poem there for a buck, a hundred, a thousand, etc. dollars. Poets ought to be supported by the 21st Century equivalent of royalty and courts: The banks. They should also conspire with the banks that support them to steal as much money as possible from the banks that don't support either the poet or his representative bank, while at the same time, using his new-found wealth and common wit to conspire with as many non-bankers (and/or non-poets, spontaneous non-poet poets, etc.) as seem willing, to blow up both the banks that support him and the banks that don't: The corporate world of American poetry: May we watch it fall apart, or be blasted to smithereens? Be a tourist, a theorist, a terrorist. Light the fuse, keep it short, but just be sure to smile when you say that, Miss, or Brother. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:38:33 -0600 > From: azreel1138@GMAIL.COM > Subject: Re: On poets "earning their keep" one poem at a time... > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > I'm always disappointed by these "buck-a-poem" projects. Is poetry > worthless? Does it not require time, dedication, hours, days, weeks? I > will > write anybody a poem for $1000. > > Jonathan > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:31 PM, amy king wrote: > > > http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/two-poets-earning-their-keep/ > > > > Answers/speculations/questions welcome! > > > > Amy > > > > _______ > > > > BOOK > > > > Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm > > > > RANT > > > > "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- > > http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html > > > > > > ESSAY > > > > "The What Else"-- > > http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html > > > > > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > > guidelines > > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > -- > Dr. Jonathan Ball, Ph.D. (English) > Sessional Instructor > University of Manitoba > University of Winnipeg > > www.jonathanball.com > > EX MACHINA is out now! > Visit the publisher's page: > http://www.bookthug.ca/proddetail.php?prod=200915 > Visit the McNally Robinson page: > http://www.mcnallyrobinson.com/product/category/0/item/558194/ > Visit the Amazon page: > http://www.amazon.ca/Ex-Machina-Jonathan-Ball/dp/1897388489/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257005873&sr=8-1 > > “If someone tells you writing is easy, he is either lying or I hate > him.” -- > Farley Mowat > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:24:04 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nana Zabic Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amy, So true about AWP "bohemian" poets. The world and its poets are the same everywhere, the differences are cosmetic. Ex- or post-Yugo poets wrote a lot about the war while it was going on, as well as before it started, from all points of view and with all possible agendas. Fucking Radovan Karad=C5=BEi=C4=87 was a published bad po= et before he became a warlord. (At a Democratic Party Christmas reception in Richmond, VA, in the early 2000s, some drunken democrat told me, upon learning that I was from Croatia and that I was a poet, "You know, Karad=C5=BEi=C4=87 was also a poet." I should have retorted, "You kno= w, Hitler was also a politician." Too bad my comebacks are perennially late, so I get to play them only in my head. In my head, the drunken democrat's jaw hits the floor and I triumphantly walk away.) Dubravka =C4=90uri=C4=87 is on this Poetics list (ciao!), she wrote awesome anti-war poems. Just check out Dubravka: http://writing.upenn.edu/library/Djuric-Dubravka_poems.html Generally speaking (and as Dubravka's poems attest), you write against the war and oppression, but you want the poems to apply not just to today's news, but to a larger context, right? Just like nowadays in the US with the current wars. I love (ciao!) Juliana Spahr's "This Connection of Everyone with Lungs," that's a long anti-war poem, among other things. Also, a genius poet like Rosmarie Waldrop (ciao!) can write something more obvious and still kick ass, like the poem in "Love, Like Pronouns," the last poem in the book, I believe. (I don't have the book here with me, I'm visiting in Croatia, otherwise I'd look up the title.) As for post-Yugo poets getting commissioned nowadays, maybe Dubravka will know? I left the Balkans a long time ago and I know less and less about the area. BTW, in 1990s, Dubravka would "commission" poems and essays from my poet friends and me, but if we brought some texts she liked, she wouldn't pay us with money, only with her friendship and a publication in ProFemina etc. Haha. Sne=C5=BEana On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Catherine Daly wrot= e: > As you may know, I write a great deal of occasional verse, and a lot > of it makes its way into my books (especially Vauxhall and Locket thus > far). > > -- > All best, > Catherine Daly > c.a.b.daly@gmail.com > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:23:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Somebody likes me after all... Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Up on HTML Giant -- http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ Don't fall in, Amy _______ BOOK Slaves to Do These Things-- http://www.blazevox.org/bk-ak3.htm RANT "My Barbaric Bitch of a Yawp" -- http://delirioushem.blogspot.com/2010/02/amy-king.html ESSAY "The What Else"-- http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/Archives/Winter_2009/prose/A_King.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:14:45 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "J.P. Craig" Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <811076.38905.qm@web51808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Azure as ever adz aver I don't know. Advertising might not be so soul-killing, at least in = comparison to many other careers. What about writing, again and again, "quotations of four or more lines = should be indented one inch from the left margin" -- or the equivalent? Both advertising and teaching are in their own way attempts to = interpolate the subject into a society, to make them fit for it, fit = into it. Both can be drudgery, and both can be creative, inspiring and = inspired. I'm assuming there are some institutions worth an effort to = write ad copy for them. (I wonder if the person who came up with "Change" got paid by the word?) The Economy of the Unlost by Anne Carson offers an interesting take on = the idea of patronage. She suggests that poetry does have a social role = that should be reimbursed. And that its role is, as Stephen Ellis = suggested, apocalyptic, preserving what is by proposing its extinction. = (Of course that "what is" is polemic; you can imagine that the act of = being-for-itself is an apocalyptic gesture aimed at revealing the atomic = structure of society.) But now I must get back to grading. On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Mary Kasimor wrote: > I just got into this conversation...one of my master's thesis was on = advertising and poetry. I was looking at very old ads from the Lady's = Home Journal. Some of the language was quite interesting, and well, = poetic. I do think, though, that a poet would become quite ill writing = copy for advertisments. I also wrote copy for radio ads and that was = very boring. I do remember having to figure out how to get as many words = into a 30 or 60 second ad. > =20 > Mary Kasimor=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, amy king wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: amy king > Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 5:26 PM >=20 >=20 > Yes, I often wonder how many poets go into advertising. And if that = gig takes the poetry out of people... >=20 > As for the latter bit on "for-a-commission" - is that even possible? = Seems like there is something of that market, or the seeds of it, via = those contests. Maybe. =20 >=20 > Best, > Amy >=20 > From: Adam Katz >=20 > Recently I've noticed some advertisements that appear to be in poem-y > format. >=20 > For example: >=20 > http://www.qf.org.qa/think/Think.pdf >=20 > And it's pretty kind of good! >=20 > Maybe the way to get commissioned to write poems is to think about = things > they could be *used* for. Though I'm aware this idea of use is maybe = taboo > or incompatible with our for-its-own-sake mentality. >=20 > If for-its-own-sake is what poetry is, then it's not commissionable. >=20 > If for-a-commission is what we would like it to be, then we must think = in > terms of identifying, inspiring, and inventing market demand. >=20 > a >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check = guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check = guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check = guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html Dr. J.P. Craig Lecturer in English University of Tennessee at Knoxville =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:45:53 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jonathan Ball Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <811076.38905.qm@web51808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) Didn't a well-known poet write "raid: kills bugs dead"? Sent from my iPhone On 2010-03-09, at 6:14 PM, Mary Kasimor wrote: > I just got into this conversation...one of my master's thesis was on > advertising and poetry. I was looking at very old ads from the > Lady's Home Journal. Some of the language was quite interesting, and > well, poetic. I do think, though, that a poet would become quite ill > writing copy for advertisments. I also wrote copy for radio ads and > that was very boring. I do remember having to figure out how to get > as many words into a 30 or 60 second ad. > > Mary Kasimor > > > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, amy king wrote: > > > From: amy king > Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 5:26 PM > > > Yes, I often wonder how many poets go into advertising. And if that > gig takes the poetry out of people... > > As for the latter bit on "for-a-commission" - is that even > possible? Seems like there is something of that market, or the > seeds of it, via those contests. Maybe. > > Best, > Amy > > From: Adam Katz > > Recently I've noticed some advertisements that appear to be in poem-y > format. > > For example: > > http://www.qf.org.qa/think/Think.pdf > > And it's pretty kind of good! > > Maybe the way to get commissioned to write poems is to think about > things > they could be *used* for. Though I'm aware this idea of use is > maybe taboo > or incompatible with our for-its-own-sake mentality. > > If for-its-own-sake is what poetry is, then it's not commissionable. > > If for-a-commission is what we would like it to be, then we must > think in > terms of identifying, inspiring, and inventing market demand. > > a > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:00:04 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lew welsh was in advertising look what happend to him in some small way or another we're all in advertising even if we think we are not ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:08:41 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jack Foley Subject: FlashPoint DAVID JONES SPECIAL Now Up! 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:28 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Glass Subject: steven fama MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if anyone has an email address for Steven Fama, please backchannel. thx,,, Dan ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:44:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Peter Grant Subject: Fran Herndon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Want to contact artist Fran Herndon. Any leads, please backchannel. Thanks, Pete ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:16:56 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <88573729-E2D4-464F-BAFE-F520C9CDAA7D@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, but the Raid company offered him a boatload of money to appropriate the poem the phrase appeared in; he was later accused of selling out... Amy _______ HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ ________________________________ From: Jonathan Ball To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 10:45:53 AM Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? Didn't a well-known poet write "raid: kills bugs dead"? Sent from my iPhone On 2010-03-09, at 6:14 PM, Mary Kasimor wrote: > I just got into this conversation...one of my master's thesis was on advertising and poetry. I was looking at very old ads from the Lady's Home Journal. Some of the language was quite interesting, and well, poetic. I do think, though, that a poet would become quite ill writing copy for advertisments. I also wrote copy for radio ads and that was very boring. I do remember having to figure out how to get as many words into a 30 or 60 second ad. > > Mary Kasimor > > > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, amy king wrote: > > > From: amy king > Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 5:26 PM > > > Yes, I often wonder how many poets go into advertising. And if that gig takes the poetry out of people... > > As for the latter bit on "for-a-commission" - is that even possible? Seems like there is something of that market, or the seeds of it, via those contests. Maybe. > > Best, > Amy > > From: Adam Katz > > Recently I've noticed some advertisements that appear to be in poem-y > format. > > For example: > > http://www.qf.org.qa/think/Think.pdf > > And it's pretty kind of good! > > Maybe the way to get commissioned to write poems is to think about things > they could be *used* for. Though I'm aware this idea of use is maybe taboo > or incompatible with our for-its-own-sake mentality. > > If for-its-own-sake is what poetry is, then it's not commissionable. > > If for-a-commission is what we would like it to be, then we must think in > terms of identifying, inspiring, and inventing market demand. > > a > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:17:40 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jonathan Ball Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <20100310.130004.3984.38.skyplums@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's it, Welch is the one typically credited with "Raid Kills Bugs Dead." On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:30 AM, steve dalachinsky wrote= : > lew welsh was in advertising > look what happend to him > > in some small way or another we're all in advertising > even if we think we are not > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > --=20 Dr. Jonathan Ball, Ph.D. (English) Sessional Instructor University of Manitoba University of Winnipeg www.jonathanball.com EX MACHINA is out now! Visit the publisher's page: http://www.bookthug.ca/proddetail.php?prod=3D200915 Visit the McNally Robinson page: http://www.mcnallyrobinson.com/product/category/0/item/558194/ Visit the Amazon page: http://www.amazon.ca/Ex-Machina-Jonathan-Ball/dp/1897388489/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie= =3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D1257005873&sr=3D8-1 =93If someone tells you writing is easy, he is either lying or I hate him.= =94 -- Farley Mowat =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:19:12 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mary Kasimor Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Teaching the MLA format is quite frustrating and exhausting, also. I think = that I would rather do that than write copy, though. I don't think that I w= ould have the heart to write poetry in my spare time if worked in advertisi= ng.=20 --- On Wed, 3/10/10, J.P. Craig wrote: From: J.P. Craig Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 9:14 AM Azure as ever adz aver I don't know. Advertising might not be so soul-killing, at least in compari= son to many other careers. What about writing, again and again, "quotations of four or more lines shou= ld be indented one inch from the left margin" -- or the equivalent? Both advertising and teaching are in their own way attempts to interpolate = the subject into a society, to make them fit for it, fit into it. Both can = be drudgery, and both can be creative, inspiring and inspired. I'm assuming= there are some institutions worth an effort to write ad copy for them. (I wonder if the person who came up with "Change" got paid by the word?) The Economy of the Unlost by Anne Carson offers an interesting take on the = idea of patronage. She suggests that poetry does have a social role that sh= ould be reimbursed. And that its role is, as Stephen Ellis suggested, apoca= lyptic, preserving what is by proposing its extinction. (Of course that "wh= at is" is polemic; you can imagine that the act of being-for-itself is an a= pocalyptic gesture aimed at revealing the atomic structure of society.) But now I must get back to grading. On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Mary Kasimor wrote: > I just got into this conversation...one of my master's thesis was on adve= rtising and poetry. I was looking at very old ads from the Lady's Home Jour= nal. Some of the language was quite interesting, and well, poetic. I do thi= nk, though, that a poet would become quite ill writing copy for advertismen= ts. I also wrote copy for radio ads and that was very boring. I do remember= having to figure out how to get as many words into a 30 or 60 second ad. >=A0=20 > Mary Kasimor=20 >=A0=20 >=20 >=20 > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, amy king wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: amy king > Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 5:26 PM >=20 >=20 > Yes, I often wonder how many poets go into advertising.=A0 And if that gi= g takes the poetry out of people... >=20 > As for the latter bit on "for-a-commission" - is that even possible?=A0 S= eems like there is something of that market, or the seeds of it, via those = contests.=A0 Maybe.=A0=20 >=20 > Best, > Amy >=20 > From: Adam Katz >=20 > Recently I've noticed some advertisements that appear to be in poem-y > format. >=20 > For example: >=20 > http://www.qf.org.qa/think/Think.pdf >=20 > And it's pretty kind of good! >=20 > Maybe the way to get commissioned to write poems is to think about things > they could be *used* for.=A0 Though I'm aware this idea of use is maybe t= aboo > or incompatible with our for-its-own-sake mentality. >=20 > If for-its-own-sake is what poetry is, then it's not commissionable. >=20 > If for-a-commission is what we would like it to be, then we must think in > terms of identifying, inspiring, and inventing market demand. >=20 > a >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html Dr. J.P. Craig Lecturer in English University of Tennessee at Knoxville =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:31:12 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Ellis Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An indent is not a retreat. It just gives you a place to put your . . . "f= inger." Would you rather your poems be published in "yet another slim volu= me of American experimental verse"=2C or used to sell designer perfume in L= A and Paris? Rumi got enlisted for the latter. Not a bad gig=2C I wouldn'= t say=2C although it's notable that the perfumes aren't marketed in Konya o= r Tabriz=2C which no doubt smell better anyway. On the other hand=2C these= "slim volumes of experimental verse" are unlikely to go even too far out o= f state. Which is to say=2C too=2C of course=2C in our time=2C the "state = line" is everywhere and goes around everything=2C even though you can never= cross or get away from it. Up against the wall? I think I'll go the perf= ume route. And I know just where I'm going to wear it. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me =20 > Date: Wed=2C 10 Mar 2010 10:14:45 -0500 > From: supercrisp@GMAIL.COM > Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > Azure > as ever > adz aver >=20 > I don't know. Advertising might not be so soul-killing=2C at least in com= parison to many other careers. >=20 > What about writing=2C again and again=2C "quotations of four or more line= s should be indented one inch from the left margin" -- or the equivalent? >=20 > Both advertising and teaching are in their own way attempts to interpolat= e the subject into a society=2C to make them fit for it=2C fit into it. Bot= h can be drudgery=2C and both can be creative=2C inspiring and inspired. I'= m assuming there are some institutions worth an effort to write ad copy for= them. >=20 > (I wonder if the person who came up with "Change" got paid by the word?) >=20 > The Economy of the Unlost by Anne Carson offers an interesting take on th= e idea of patronage. She suggests that poetry does have a social role that = should be reimbursed. And that its role is=2C as Stephen Ellis suggested=2C= apocalyptic=2C preserving what is by proposing its extinction. (Of course = that "what is" is polemic=3B you can imagine that the act of being-for-itse= lf is an apocalyptic gesture aimed at revealing the atomic structure of soc= iety.) >=20 > But now I must get back to grading. >=20 > On Mar 9=2C 2010=2C at 7:14 PM=2C Mary Kasimor wrote: >=20 > > I just got into this conversation...one of my master's thesis was on ad= vertising and poetry. I was looking at very old ads from the Lady's Home Jo= urnal. Some of the language was quite interesting=2C and well=2C poetic. I = do think=2C though=2C that a poet would become quite ill writing copy for a= dvertisments. I also wrote copy for radio ads and that was very boring. I d= o remember having to figure out how to get as many words into a 30 or 60 se= cond ad. > >=20 > > Mary Kasimor=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --- On Tue=2C 3/9/10=2C amy king wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > From: amy king > > Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? > > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Date: Tuesday=2C March 9=2C 2010=2C 5:26 PM > >=20 > >=20 > > Yes=2C I often wonder how many poets go into advertising. And if that g= ig takes the poetry out of people... > >=20 > > As for the latter bit on "for-a-commission" - is that even possible? Se= ems like there is something of that market=2C or the seeds of it=2C via tho= se contests. Maybe.=20 > >=20 > > Best=2C > > Amy > >=20 > > From: Adam Katz > >=20 > > Recently I've noticed some advertisements that appear to be in poem-y > > format. > >=20 > > For example: > >=20 > > http://www.qf.org.qa/think/Think.pdf > >=20 > > And it's pretty kind of good! > >=20 > > Maybe the way to get commissioned to write poems is to think about thin= gs > > they could be *used* for. Though I'm aware this idea of use is maybe ta= boo > > or incompatible with our for-its-own-sake mentality. > >=20 > > If for-its-own-sake is what poetry is=2C then it's not commissionable. > >=20 > > If for-a-commission is what we would like it to be=2C then we must thin= k in > > terms of identifying=2C inspiring=2C and inventing market demand. > >=20 > > a > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidel= ines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidel= ines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidel= ines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Dr. J.P. Craig > Lecturer in English > University of Tennessee at Knoxville >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:35:24 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: blacksox@ATT.NET Subject: Tonight in Orlando Adeena Karasick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Every Wednesday@ Austin=E2=80=99s=20 Special Feature=20 Adeena Karasick=20 & World famous Open Mic=20 Wednesday March 10 @ 8:00pm=20 Austin=E2=80=99s Coffee and Film=20 929 W Fairbanks Ave.=20 Winter Park, Florida 32789=20 From New York City to Austins=20 It doesn't get any better than this!=20 DO NOT MISS THIS EVENT!=20 Adeena Karasick is a poet, media-artist and the award-winning author of sev= en books of poetry and poetic theory, Amuse Bouche: Tasty Treats for the Mo= uth (Talonbooks 2009), The House That Hijack Built (Talonbooks, 2004). The = Arugula Fugues (Zasterle Press, 2001), Dyssemia Sleaze (Talonbooks, Spring = 2000), Genrecide (Talonbooks, 1996), M=C3=AAmewars (Talonbooks, 1994), and = The Empress Has No Closure (Talonbooks, 1992). Marked with an urban, Jewish= , feminist aesthetic that continually challenges normative modes of meaning= production, and engaged with the art of combination and turbulence of thou= ght, her work is a testament to the creative and regenerative power of lang= uage and its infinite possibilities for pushing meaning to the limits of it= s semantic boundaries. Karasick has lectured and performed worldwide and re= gularly publishes articles, reviews and dialogues on contemporary poetry, p= oetics and cultural/semiotic theory. She is Professor of Global Literature = at St. John's University=20in New York.=20 Hosted by Open Words ,& Russ Golata=20 For directions or comments e-mail me at [masked]=20 Or phone me at [masked]=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:18:56 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: <718370.65215.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unlike black flag, which took the name after the product... On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:16 PM, amy king wrote: > Yes, but the Raid company offered him a boatload of money to appropriate = the poem the phrase appeared in; he was later accused of selling out... > > Amy > =A0_______ > --=20 All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:11:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Kirschenbaum Subject: Boog City Goes West Redux, This Wed. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please forward ------------------ Boog City presents d.a. levy lives: celebrating editors from Northern California renegade presses this Wed. March 17, 7:30 p.m. sharp, free Books and Bookshelves 99 Sanchez St. San Francisco featuring readings from Albert Flynn DeSilver editor The Owl Press (Woodacre, Calif.) Travis Ortiz co-editor Atelos Publishing Project (Berkeley, Calif.) Jill Stengel editor a+bend press (Davis, Calif.) Eileen R. Tabios editor Meritage Press (San Francisco/St. Helena, Calif.) and from New York City David Kirschenbaum editor, Boog City Curated and with an introduction by Boog City editor David Kirschenbaum For more info call Books and Bookshelves at 415-621-3761 or Boog City at 212-842-BOOG (2664) ------ **Boog City http://welcometoboogcity.com/ Boog City is a New York City-based small press now in its 19th year =20 and East Village community newspaper of the same name. It has also =20 published 35 volumes of poetry and various magazines, featuring work =20 by Allen Ginsberg and Lawrence Ferlinghetti among others, and theme =20 issues on baseball, women's writing, and Louisville, Ky. It hosts and =20= curates two regular performance series--d.a. levy lives: celebrating =20 the renegade press, where each month a non-NYC small press and its =20 writers and a musical act of their choosing is hosted at Chelsea's ACA =20= Galleries; and Classic Albums Live, where 5-13 local musical acts =20 perform a classic album live at venues including The Bowery Poetry =20 Club, CBGB's, and The Knitting Factory. Past albums have included =20 Elvis Costello, My Aim is True; Nirvana, Nevermind; and Liz Phair, =20 Exile in Guyville. **Albert Flynn DeSilver http://www.theowlpress.com/ Albert Flynn DeSilver is a poet, teacher, visual artist, and publisher =20= living in Woodacre, Calif. He is the editor and publisher of The Owl =20 Press, which publishes innovative poetry and poetic collaboration. He =20= received a B.F.A. in photography from the University of Colorado, and =20= an M.F.A. in New Genres from the San Francisco Art Institute. He is =20 the author, most recently, of Letters to Early Street, (La Alameda/=20 University of New Mexico Press) and Walking Tooth & Cloud (French =20 Connection Press, Paris). He has published more than a hundred poems =20 in literary journals worldwide including Zyzzyva, New American =20 Writing, Jacket (Australia), Poetry Kanto (Japan), Van Gogh=92s Ear =20 (France), Hanging Loose, and Exquisite Corpse, among others. The most =20= recent Owl Press title is Bill Berkson=92s Our Friends Will Pass Among =20= You Silently. **David Kirschenbaum http://www.boogcity.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/gilmoreboysmusic David Kirschenbaum=92s work has appeared in The Brooklyn Review Online, =20= can we have our ball back, Chain, Pavement Saw, and unpleasant event =20 schedule, among others. He is the lyricist for the band Gilmore Boys, =20= and the editor and publisher of Boog City, a New York City-based small =20= press now in its 19th year and East Village community newspaper. **Travis Ortiz http://www.atelos.org/travis/ Travis Ortiz is a writer, publisher, dj, and designer living in San =20 Francisco. Ortiz has work in various publications including Bay =20 Poetics and Poetics Journal, and has written two books, Geography of =20 Parts (Melodeon) and Variously, not Then (forthcoming, Tuumba). He is =20= the co-director (with Lyn Hejinian) of Atelos, a literary project =20 commissioning and publishing cross-genre work by poets. Atelos was =20 nominated as one of the best independent literary presses by the =20 Firecracker Awards in 2001. **Jill Stengel http://www.dusie.org/Langiappe_Stengel.pdf Jill Stengel is a poet, publisher of a+bend press, and parent of three =20= young children. Formerly of San Francisco and Los Angeles, she now =20 resides with her family in Davis, Calif. Several of her serial poems =20 have appeared in chapbook form=97cartography (WOOD); History, =20 Possibilities (a+bend press); ladies with babies (Boog Literature); =20 lagniappe (Nous-Zot Press, Dusie Kollektiv); late may (Dusie); may(be) =20= (Dusie); and the forthcoming and I would open (Ypolita) and wreath =20 (Texfiles). Some of these chapbooks, and individual poems, can be =20 viewed online as well as in print, and she has new work in the =20 forthcoming anthology Kindergarde. Her first full-length collection is =20= forthcoming this year from Black Radish Books. Begun in San Francisco in 1999, a+bend press published 40 chapbooks in =20= its first 20 months of existence. Stengel produced the chapbooks in =20 conjunction with her reading series, Second Sundays at BlueBar, held =20 in the poetically historic North Beach district of San Francisco. The press took a chapbook-publishing hiatus for nine years, during =20 which time she produced three children and five issues of the journal =20= mem, focusing on writing by women mothering young children, and page =20 mothers. Now the hiatus is on hiatus: a new a+bend press chapbook was =20= released at the end of last year. **Eileen R. Tabios http://marshhawkpress.org/Tabios4.htm Eileen R. Tabios has released 18 print, four electronic, and 1 CD =20 poetry collections, an art essay collection, a poetry essay/interview =20= anthology, a short story book, and two novels. She has also exhibited =20= visual art and visual poetry in the United States and Asia. Recipient =20= of the Philippines=92 National Book Award for Poetry, she=92s just come =20= out with The Thorn Rosary: Selected Prose Poems 1998-2010, edited with =20= an introduction by poet-critic-painter-scholar Thomas Fink and with an =20= afterword by poet-scholar Joi Barrios. In poetry, Tabios has crafted a =20= body of work that is unique for melding ekphrasis with =20 transcolonialism. Her poems have been translated into Spanish, =20 Italian, Tagalog, Japanese, Portuguese, Polish, Greek, computer-=20 generated hybrid languages, paintings, video, drawings, visual poetry, =20= mixed media collages, Kali martial arts, music, modern dance, and =20 sculpture. She=92s the publisher of Meritage Press (St. Helena & San =20 Francisco). ---- Directions: 1.5 blocks from Church St. and Market St. Muni Venue is bet. 14th St and Duboce Ave. -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W. 28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://welcometoboogcity.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) To subscribe free to The December Podcast: = http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=3D3431698= 80 For music from Gilmore boys: http://www.myspace.com/gilmoreboysmusic= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:47:02 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jesse Glass Subject: Ahadada Books Presents the Prague Issue of Ekleksographia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Edited by Jason Mashak and full of translations, new work and pretty people. http://ekleksographia.ahadadabooks.com/mashak or go directly to www. ahadadabooks.com and click the link. Hurrah! Jess ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:05:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Charles Bernstein Subject: NY launch for All the Whiskey in Heaven: Selected Poems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All the Whiskey in Heaven: Selected Poems of Charles Bernstein launch & signing Sunday March 28, 2010, 6:30pm Zinc Bar 82 W. 3rd St, New York, NY Poets & friends read from the book Thom Donovan Peter Gizzi Kenneth Goldsmith Erica Hunt Dorothea Lasky Tan Lin Elizabeth Willis & Charles Bernstein more information at http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/all-the-whiskey/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:49:41 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I always thought Blag Flag got it's name from the anarchist flag... On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Catherine Daly wrote: > unlike black flag, which took the name after the product... ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:49:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sharon Dolin Subject: Cornelia Street Reading on March 24th Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Dear Friends, Here's an announcement for a poetry reading I'm = participating in on March 24th at 6pm at Cornelia Street Cafe. Please = tell your friends and students.--Sharon =09 PERFECT SENSE READING SERIES is proud to invite you to a special evening of poetry with =20 SHARON DOLIN =20 ROCCO DE GIACOMO FLORENCIA VARELA & JACOB SCHEIER =20 =20 Where: Cornelia Street Caf=E9 When: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 6pm $7.00 cover includes free drink =20 =20 SHARON DOLIN=92s fourth book, Burn and Dodge (University of Pittsburgh = Press, 2008) won the AWP Donald Hall Prize in Poetry. Her other books = include Realm of the Possible (Four Way Books, 2004), Serious Pink = (Marsh Hawk Press, 2003), and Heart Work (Sheep Meadow Press, 1995). She = is Writer-in-Residence at Eugene Lang College, The New School. She also = teaches at the Unterberg Poetry Center of the 92nd Street Y and directs = The Center for Book Arts Annual Letterpress Poetry Chapbook Competition. =20 ROCCO DE GIACOMO is the author of the full-length poetry collection Ten = Thousand Miles Between Us, published by Quattro Books, and Catching = Dawn=92s Breath (LyricalMyrical Press, Toronto). His work is forthcoming = in Vallum and The Carolina Quarterly and has recently appeared The = Antigonish Review and Tower Poetry. =20 FLORENCIA VARELA has recently completed her MFA at Columbia University. = Her work has appeared or is forthcoming in journals such as Paterson = Literary Review, Diagram, Drunken Boat, Western Humanities Review, and = Gulf Coast. She currently teaches at different colleges in New York = City, and lives in Brooklyn. =20 JACOB SCHEIER=92s debut poetry collection, More to Keep Us Warm, was = published by ECW Press in 2007 and was named the winner of Canada=92s = 2008 Governor General's Award for English poetry. A former resident of = Toronto, Scheier currently lives in New York City where he is = volunteering for the radical newspaper The Indypendent and preparing his = next book of poems. He is also a regular contributor to the Toronto = alternative weekly NOW. Sharon Sharon Dolin sdolin@earthlink.net www.sharondolin.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:09:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mark Melnicove Subject: Bern Porter exhibit and event at MoMA and Esopus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Announcing a new Bern Porter exhibit and event. Exhibit: Lost and Found: The Work of Bern Porter from the Collection of = The Museum of Modern Art Library, April 7=E2=80=93July 5, 2010, = Mezzanine, The Lewis B. and Dorothy Cullman Education and Res= earch Building.=20 http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/exhibitions/1057 Event: Lost and Found: An Evening with Bern Porter, Thursday, April 22, = 2010, 7:00 p.m., Esopus Space, 64 Wes= t Third Street #201, New York, NY. Featuring: Kenneth Goldsmith, performing Bern Porter's poetry; Dan Domench (and act= ors) performing his new play about Bern Porter--Bern Porter: The Authori= zed Fictional Biography of the Artist, Scientist, Poet, Publisher, Perfo= rmer, Adventurer, and Iconoclast (2010); Mark Melnicove, showing his new= movie--Joy Glows Where Confusion Was: A film about, with, and without B= ern Porter (2010); Introduced by Rachael Morrison (exhibit organizer). http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/events/8983 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:37:05 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Lost and Found: The Work of Bern Porter from the Collection of The Museum of Modern Art Library Comments: To: spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, fluxlist@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Exhibit: Lost and Found: The Work of Bern Porter from the Collection =20 of The Museum of Modern Art Library, April 7=96July 5, 2010, Mezzanine, =20= The Lewis B. and Dorothy Cullman Education and Research Building. http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/exhibitions/1057 Event: Lost and Found: An Evening with Bern Porter, Thursday, April =20 22, 2010, 7:00 p.m., Esopus Space, 64 West Third Street #201, New =20 York, NY. Featuring: Kenneth Goldsmith, performing Bern Porter's poetry; Dan Domench (and actors) performing his new play about Bern Porter--=20 Bern Porter: The Authorized Fictional Biography of the Artist, =20 Scientist, Poet, Publisher, Performer, Adventurer, and Iconoclast =20 (2010); Mark Melnicove, showing his new movie--Joy Glows Where Confusion Was: =20= A film about, with, and without Bern Porter (2010); Introduced by Rachael Morrison (exhibit organizer). http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/events/8983 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:08:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sharon Mesmer/David Borchart Subject: Cecilia Woloch and Sharon Mesmer at Bowery Poetry Club In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Cecilia Woloch and Sharon Mesmer Saturday March 20 at 2 p.m. Bowery Poetry Club 308 Bowery (Between Houston and Bleecker) F train to 2nd Ave, 6 to Bleecker mail@bowerypoetry.com 212-614-0505 $7 =20 Cecilia Woloch is the author of four award-winning collections of poems, = most recently Narcissus, winner of the Tupelo Press 2006 Snowbound = Series Chapbook Award. Carpathia, newly available from BOA Editions = Ltd., is her fifth book. She is currently a lecturer in the creative = writing program at the University of Southern California, as well as the = founding director of The Paris Poetry Workshop. She spends a part of = each year traveling, and in recent years has divided her time between = Los Angeles, California; Atlanta, Georgia; Shepherdsville, Kentucky; = Paris, France; and a small village in the Carpathian mountains of = southeastern Poland. =20 Sharon Mesmer is the recipient of two New York Foundation for the Arts = poetry fellowships (1999 and 2007). Two poetry collections, The Virgin = Formica (Hanging Loose) and Annoying Diabetic Bitch (Combo Books), came = out in 2008. Other poetry collections include Half Angel, Half Lunch = (Hard Press, 1998) and the chapbooks Vertigo Seeks Affinities = (Belladonna Books, 2006) and Crossing Second Avenue (ABJ Books, Tokyo). = Fiction collections are Ma Vie =E0 Yonago (in French translation from = Hachette Litt=E9ratures, 2005) and In Ordinary Time and The Empty = Quarter (Hanging Loose 2005 and 2000). In January 2009 Mesmer was = featured along with several other poets of the flarf collective on = National Public Radio=92s =93Studio 360 with Kurt Anderson.=94 Her music = and book reviews can be found in The Brooklyn Rail. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:50:13 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: William Allegrezza Subject: New Issue of Moria MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out the new issue of Moria (http://www.moriapoetry.com). Poetry and Vispo by: Tom Hibbard,=A0Michael Marks,=A0Arkava Das, Brad Vogler, Kirsten Kaschock, Dion Farquhar,=A0Matina L. Stamatakis, Holms Troelstrup, Jeffrey Side,=A0Kristina Marie Darling,=A0Peter Grieco,=A0Adam Fieled, Justyna Bargielska,=A0Jerrod Bohn,=A0Steve Halle,=A0SJ Fowler, Joel Chace,=A0Amy Garrett-Brown,=A0Francis Raven,=A0Chella Courington, Lance Newman,=A0Pat Clifford,=A0Emeniano Acain Somoza, Jr,=A0Steve Roggenbu= ck, Sam Schild,=A0Anna Elena Eyre,=A0Robert Verdon,=A0David Harrison Horton, Nate Pritts,=A0Jill Jones,=A0Louis Armand,=A0Charles Perrone, Michael Brand= onisio, John Bennett,=A0Raymond Farr,=A0Mara G=E1lvez-Bret=F3n, Gina Myers,=A0Connor Coyne, Andrew Topel,=A0Paul Siegell, Alexander Jorgensen,=A0Phillip Lund,=A0Audacia Dangereyes,=A0Sean Burn, Teresa K. Miller,=A0=A0Awan Amali. Articles: Aryanil Mukherjee on Ashberry and Vertigo and rob mclennan on Sarah Manguso Bill Allegrezza, editor =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:25:04 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Noah Eli Gordon Subject: NYC reading 3/21 @ Zinc Comments: To: subpo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Folks=2C =20 I'll be reading in NYC in a week or so. Hope some of you can make it out.=20 =20 All the info's below. =20 thanks much=2C Noah =20 =20 =20 Sunday=2C March 21=2C 2010 6:30pm - 9:00pm Zinc Bar (82 West 3rd Street) =20 Readings by: Michael Carr Anthony McCann Noah Eli Gordon Michael Carr is the author of the Out Another=2C Softer White=2C and Platin= um Blonde. Necco Face=2C a chapbook co-written with Jess Mynes and Aaron Ti= eger=2C came out from Editions Louis Wain last year=2C and a collaborative = chapbook with Micah Ballard called Poems from the New Winter Palace is fort= hcoming from House Press this summer. He lives in Cambridge=2C MA. Anthony McCann is the author of Moongarden (Wave Books 2006) and Father of = Noise (Fence Books 2003). Originally from the upper Hudson Valley of New Yo= rk State he now lives in Los Angeles=2C California. He will be reading poem= s from his forthcoming book New Dreams of Mammal Island--due out from Wave = next spring. Noah Eli Gordon is the author of several books=2C including Novel Pictorial= Noise (Harper Perennial=2C 2007)=2C which was selected by John Ashbery for= the 2006 National Poetry Series and chosen for the 2007 San Francisco Stat= e University Poetry Center Book Award. He lives in Denver and teaches in th= e MFA program at the University of Colorado-Boulder. Visit his PennSound pa= ge here: http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Gordon-Noah-Eli.php=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 http://www.lettermachine.org/ =20 _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:31:19 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: Chirot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'n very honored and excited to have as Jerome Rothenberg's Poets and Poetics blog current entry essay of mine on the Gunatanamo Poets, which originally appeared in KAURABI have provided the link here for the esay's original appearnce and the current one at Jerry's blog, along with the link to another piece of mine re the Guantanamo Poets which appeared in WordforWord #13 on "Waterboarding and Poetry: Francois Villon and the new Extreme Experimental American Poetry." I hope that listserv memebrs and any and evryone may find something of interest and use in the essays, themselves part of an ongoing and ever expanding series of works across several genres and media-- onwo/ards! david-bc and happy weekend, with the advent of Daylight Savings Time!! Outsider Poems, A Mini-Anthology in Progress (14): David Baptiste Chirot, Non-Poetry for Non-Readers (Poems from Guant=E1namo) [a commentary on *Poems from Guant=E1namo: The Detainees Speak *, edited by Marc Falkoff, University of Iowa Press, 2007] (towards a non-reading - American abolition of "non-literatures" - an entry in the Annals of the New Extreme Experimental Poetry) "*The blank and ruin we see in Nature is within our own eye*." --R.W. Emerson, "Nature" 1. David-Baptiste *Chirot* // Word For/Word: A Journal of New Writing * ...* Some American reviewers and commentators on the *Poets* of *Guantanamo*have so far found exactly what they were looking for: "bad" poetry in Formal terms, *...* www.wordforword.info/vol13/dbc.htm - Cached 2. Poems and Poetics *...* (14): David Baptiste *Chirot*, Non-Poetry for Non-Readers (Poems from *Guant=E1namo*). [a commentary on Poems from *Guant=E1namo*: The Detainees Speak, *...* which and into which the *Guantanamo poets* and poems emerge and become re-confined. *...* poemsand*poet*ics.blogspot.com/ - Cached- Similar 3. KAURAB Online :: A Bengali Poetry Webzine :: Translation Site David Baptiste *Chirot*. "The blank and ruin we see in Nature is within our *...* and into which the *Guantanamo poets* and poems emerge and become re-confined. *...* kaurab.tripod.com/english/books/*guantanamo*.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:09:18 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nana Zabic Subject: Re: Query - Poem Commissions? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:14 PM, J.P. Craig wrote: > Both advertising and teaching are in their own way attempts to interpolat= e the subject into a society, to make them fit for it, fit into it. Both ca= n be drudgery, and both can be creative, inspiring and inspired. So true. I've never worked in advertising, but I've seen some old ads by Ranjan Adiga, a fiction writer now, and those were very inspired. He explained to me that people creating ads get to come up with a lot of very creative campaigns that never get picked up. There are conferences and awards out there given to those phantom, but super creative campaigns. I wish Ranjan was on this list to tell us more about that. But basically, an ad team may come up with a brilliant campaign for, say, laundry soap, they'll come up with clever words and and unexpected visuals, they'll win awards, but then that campaign would never actually get used by the soap company, because everyone knows that the only people who do laundry are wholesome, cute, preferably blond and blue-eyed, middle-class mothers of shenanigans-prone small brats. And so on. Sne=C5=BEana =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:07:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: 25 questions: question # 1... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Taking a page from David Hilbert's well-known list of 23 "Paris = Problems" (1900), and, likewise,=20 hoping to see solutions in this new century, I've formulated a list of = questions, which of course=20 there is not the slightest connection between Hilbert's list of problems = and this line of questioning.=20 Not to mention the fact that many of my questions may contain the = answers simply in the asking. Question # 1: Should any current poet be judged against only the very best works of = the past? G. E. Schwartz =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:32:08 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Cheryl Pallant Subject: Cheryl Pallant & Grant Jenkins reading In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Grant Jenkins and Cheryl Pallant will be reading poetry and performing their song from their newly released, collaboratively written book, Morphs (Cracked Slab Books). March 16, 7pm Legacy Books, 7300 Dallas Pkwy, Suite A120 Plano TX. March 20, 7pm for drinks; 8:30 for reading Home of Dale Smith and Hoa Nguyen 2208 Trailside Drive #A Austin TX www.cherylpallant.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:11:27 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Ekleksographia - Get Ready! Comments: To: UK POETRY , "\"Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a contributor ("Tree Haptics"") it is my pleasure to help toot the horn = for this coming Monday's release of a wonder filled, as well as smart new i= ssue of Ekleksographia online magazine, =E2=80=98William Blake and the Nake= d Teaparty,=E2=80=99 guest edited by Philip Davenport=0A=C2=A0=0Ahttp://ekl= eksographia.ahadadabooks.com/davenport/=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=0AThis issue feature= s=0Atextworks that emphasise the touch - handwrit and haptic =E2=80=93 part= icularly=0Apieces that consider emotional engagements, human space - that w= eird=0Atrace and corporate/military erasure of the handmade, the human touc= h,=0Athe not-digital. These qualities link into the alternative tradition o= f=0Apoetics - and to 'outsider' artists who are owed a debt by the=0Aexperi= menters=C2=A0 (an IOU all the way back to Will Blake, he and the Mrs=0Asitt= ing on the lawn in London afternoons, naked, drinking tea). =0A=C2=A0=0ACon= tributors: Alan Halsey, Anna MacGowan, The Atlas Group, Ben Gwilliam, Carol= Watts, Carolyn Thompson, Darren Marsh, Dave Griffiths, David Tibet, Geof H= uth, George Widener, Geraldine Monk, The Gingerbread Tree, Hainer Wormann, = Harald Stoffers, Helmut Lemke, Holly Pester, James Davies, Jesse Glass, Jon= athan Penton, Julia Grime, Kerry Morrison, Kirstie Gregory, Laurence Lane, = Lee Patterson, Li E Chen, Liz Collini, Matt Dalby, Michael Wilson, Morry Ca= rlin, Nick Blinko, Nico Vassilakis, Patricia Farrell, Rachael Elwell, Rober= t Grenier, Robert Sheppard, Sarah Sanders, Sean Bonney, Stephen Vincent, St= eve Waling, Sue Arrowsmith, Todd Thorpe, Tony Lopez and Tony Trehy =0AThe i= ssue goes online 15th March 2010 and will be launched with a 24 =E2=80=98li= ve=E2=80=99 online writing event by Sarah Saunders =C2=A0 =0ASeries Editor Jesse Glass; this issue designed by Jonathan Penton=0A=C2= =A0=0A(apologies for cross-posting)=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:13:15 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jerome Rothenberg Subject: In Preparation for a Visit to Mount Aso & a Round of Renshi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From March 17 through 20 I will be in Kumamoto, Japan, engaging in a = renshi-writing collaboration with Japanese poets Shuntaro Tanikawa, = Hiromi Ito, Yasuhiro Yotsumoto, Wakako Kaku, and the American translator = Jeffrey Angles. This will be followed by a series of readings and = lectures:=20 On March 22 a reading for the Japan International Poetry Society, at the = Heartpia Kyoto, Conference Room #3, in Kyoto; on March 26, a talk and = group discussion at Josai International University, Tokyo; and on March = 27 a reading with Ryuta Imafuku and Keijiro Suga at Meiji University, = also in Tokyo. During my time away, postings on Poems and Poetics will = continue without interruption, as follows: =20 March 13 Christine Wertheim: The Infestation of Bodies by Tongues (Part = One) March 17 Jerome Rothenberg: Metamorphoses & Other Stories March 20 Reconfiguring Romanticism (39): Jeffrey C. Robinson, Two Poems = with Notes after Wordsworth and Keats March 24 Haroldo de Campos: from Gal=E1xias, 2 poems & an author's note March 28 Rose Drachler, Two Poems with Numbers & Letters =20 The following is a poem for the first round of renshi and an open = tribute to the masters of the game: =20 soon to be with you on Aso not Death Mountain in the other poem =20 beneath which looms the shadow of a visionary fish =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:28:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Anny Ballardini Subject: ARAKAWA & GINS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://ag3.griffith.edu.au/ An exceptional event starting today, register for the meeting! Best wishes, Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome http://www.lulu.com/content/5806078 http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche =AB Stulta est clementia, cum tot ubique vatibus occurras, periturae parcere chartae =BB Giovenale =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:12:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: 25 questions: question # 1... In-Reply-To: <15C8E281112842298EE643A654161B61@KayPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > Question # 1: > > Should any current poet be judged against only the very best works of > the past? > > G. E. Schwartz > Beyond the issue of what constitutes genre, canon, and "best," not to mention "current" or "poet": there is also the question of judgment. Is a poem written to be judged, any more than an experience is judged? How does one judge anything that has no possibility either of quantifiable results or verification procedures (not to mention falsifiability)? How would you compare a contemporary poet to the poetry of Sumer? One might think immediately that the habitus of each is fundamentally unknowable to that of the other. The same might be true, say, of Swinburne and Sondheim. What about Sondheim and Damon? Does the synchronic necessarily lend itself to judgment and comparison? On the other hand, let's say that judgment has a pragmatics: of grant, job, publication. Then judgment also implies an ecology and competition: writing is now a contestation, which implies as well a curlicue or diacritical marking beyond the ostensible 'content' of the text, no matter how defined. In other words: Here is my poem; rate it; act accordingly. The poem is now a function. It's a function within a potentially limited space-time event or attention economy. There is nothing right or wrong with this approach, either. Nor of the other approach. It becomes a matter of taste, connoisseurship: Of who is judging, and who is being judged. And, like pretty much anything in poetry/poetics, this is also something that's basically - i.e. ontologically, epistemologically, unanswerable, because the question, just like the "Should" in the question above, is problematic, self-deconstructing upon closer examination. - Alan ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:33:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tim Peterson Subject: EOAGH presents (on 3/16) Jon Cotner, Andy Fitch, and John Harkey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 EOAGH Reading Series: Jon Cotner, Andy Fitch, and John Harkey Tuesday, March 16 at 7PM at Unnameable Books, 600 Vanderbilt Avenue, Brooklyn, NY FREE Jon Cotner and Andy Fitch are the authors of Ten Walks/Two Talks (Ugly Duckling Presse, 2010). In 2009 they co-edited Interdisciplinary Transcriptions -- a 1,036-page digital anthology containing poets, critics, anthropologists and visual artists. Other publications include 1913, Brooklyn Rail, Denver Quarterly, Electric Literature, Hotel Amerika, LIT and UbuWeb. Cotner and Fitch have performed their dialogic improvisations at festivals and conferences across the United States, as well as in Toronto and Berlin. Cotner lives in New York City, where he is completing his Ph.D. for SUNY Buffalo's Poetics Program. Fitch is an assistant professor in the University of Wyoming's MFA Program. Listen to "Those Ever-Expanding Legs of a V" by Cotner and Fitch at EOAGH 5: http://www.chax.org/eoagh/issuefive/cotnerfitch.html John Harkey, hailing from Georgia but currently living cozily in Sunnyside, Queens, is a PhD student at the CUNY Graduate Center. His dissertation, on "small poems" (small, not short, nota bene), devotes itself principally to Lorine Niedecker, George Oppen, Susan Howe, and the philosophy of Charles S. Peirce. Some of John's own small poems have appeared in EOAGH and The Solitary Plover, and he recently started Creature Press, a vehicle for hand-made chapbooks. He begs your pardon and thanks you, in advance, for your kind attentions, when- and wherever you may have occasion to bestow them. Read "Beaded Lace" by John Harkey in EOAGH 5: http://www.chax.org/eoagh/issuefive/harkey.html upcoming EOAGH Reading Series events this spring: Barbara Henning, Simon Pettet, and Shira Dentz Sunday, March 21 at 2 PM at Unnameable Books Andrew Levy, Cheryl Clark, and Mark Lamoureux Sunday, April 4 at 2 PM at Unnameable Books David Shapiro, Joanna Fuhrman, and Charles Borkhuis Sunday, April 18 at 2 PM at Unnameable Books ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:22:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: Invitation to participate in Chirot Zero Zine An Anarkeyology of hand eye ear notations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Chirot Date: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:20 PM Subject: Invitation to participatein Chirot Zero Zine An Anarekyeology of hand eye ear notations To: spidertangle@yahoogroups.com Cc: fluxlist@yahoogroups.com Dear Followers, Friends, Fellow Workers: I have just begun a new blog/zine called Chirot Zero Zine A Heap of Rubble-- Anarkeyology of hand eye ear notations--- http://chirotzerozine.blogspot.com the blog is more exusively concerned than my ongoing http://davidbaptistechirot.blogspot.com with presenting essays, reviews (inc. "bad reviews") , Visual Poetry, Sound Poetry, Event Scores, Manifestos, Manifotofestos, rantin' & raving, rock'roll, music all sorts--by myself and others--if you are interested in being a contributor, please feel free to contact me at david.chirot@gmail.com as with this blog, the arts are investigated as a part of rather than apart from the historical, economic, political actualities of yesterday, today, & tomorrow as with al my blogs-- contributions in any language are welcome note: i also curate another blog which you are welcome to join as participant which is also a site for presenting works in any media-- http://nosobrasotros.blogspot.com this new blog i hope people wil contribute works in any form and also more commentaries on various issues which interest YOU--re an of the arts and any other issues you find thought provoking--esp in relation with the various media YOU or anyone else is working in and with- it is hoped a kind of ongoing conversation/discussion can be engaged in and with that is an open forum for all-- i hope man of you will like to join and share your works, ideas, arguments, doubts resaches satires--in short whatever is in yer mind and heart and soul! ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:25:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jim Andrews Subject: POET PIRATE NETBOT by Kedrick James MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit POET PIRATE NETBOT Ruminations on the Undertaking of Excess Information by Kedrick James http://vispo.com/guests/kedrick/poetpiratebot An essay by the Vancouver poet, musician, scholar, and visual artist Kedrick James. With 13 of his intriguing visual collages (click these for bigger versions). Kedrick finished his doctorate last year. It is one of the few readable and interesting doctoral dissertations I've encountered. It's titled "Writing Post-Person: Poetics, Literacy and Sustainability in the Age of Disposable Discourse". One of the things he looked at was spam as a literary phenomenon. In POET PIRATE NETBOT, he looks at that and related things: how writing and education are and will continue to change in light of the geometricly increasing avalanches of writing and media occassioned by the net and the digital, not just by the wide access the world's population has to publishing tools, but by the presence of bots that write. It's quite a hopeful look, really, at what sometimes appears to be a devastating change to the literary, artistic, and educational landscapes. For although we see this continuing avalanche of writing and media changing the literary landscape, we also see people using the tools and bots to both sift through the deluge and create works of art that begin to sort through what we have. The visual images in the essay relate to this topic via their being made from google image search images (they're not made with dbCinema). There's more work on vispo.com by Kedrick : http://vispo.com/dbcinema/kedrick is something I did in dbCinema on Kedrick's thesis "Writing Post-Person: Poetics, Literacy and Sustainability in the Age of Disposable Discourse". Kedrick teaches English teachers at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver. ja ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:58:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Kate Eichhorn Subject: Angela Carr and Akilah Oliver - Reading (March 19) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Friday, March 19, 2010 Time: 7:30pm - 9:00pm Location: Unnameable Books (600 Vanderbilt Ave, Brooklyn, NY) =09 Launch of Akilah Oliver's new chapbook, A Collection of Objects.=20 This is a cross-border publishing venture with Montr=E9al-based Tente Pre= ss (designed in Montr=E9al, pressed in Brooklyn, sewn up on the Lower East S= ide). At the launch, Akilah will read with Tente Press publisher, Angela Carr (author most recently of The Rose Concordance) and Kate Eichhorn (author = of Fond). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:13:33 -0500 Reply-To: halvard@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: 25 questions: question # 1... In-Reply-To: <15C8E281112842298EE643A654161B61@KayPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Solutions to what? Hal follow this link to The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye, my latest collection -- http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/14481250-chalk-editions Halvard Johnson ================ halvard@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > Taking a page from David Hilbert's well-known list of 23 "Paris Problems" > (1900), and, likewise, > hoping to see solutions in this new century, I've formulated a list of > questions, which of course > there is not the slightest connection between Hilbert's list of problems > and this line of questioning. > > Not to mention the fact that many of my questions may contain the answers > simply in the asking. > > Question # 1: > > Should any current poet be judged against only the very best works of the > past? > > G. E. Schwartz > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:58:16 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tenney Nathanson Subject: Tucson Festival of Books: Bernstein Waldman Notley Berssenbrugge etc etc today and tomorrow Comments: To: Tenney Nathanson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Poetry events at the gigantic Tucson Festival of Books today and = tomorrow: (all these readings in the Kiva Room at the Student Union unless = otherwise noted): Saturday, March 13 10:00 a.m. Charles Bernstein, Barbara Henning, & Tenney Nathanson 11:30 a.m. Panel Discussion: =93Chapbooks: How to Make One, and Why You Should=94: Charles Alexander et al 1:00 p.m. Kim Addonizio & Abraham Smith 2:30 p.m. Poetry Reading on the International Stage, Modern Languages room 311, with Tedi L=F3pez Mills & Wendy Burk 2:30 p.m. A Celebration of Will Inman with David Ray & Michael Rattee 4:00 p.m. Alice Notley & Mei-mei Berssenbrugge Sunday, March 14 10:00 a.m. Jonathan Rothschild & Pamela Uschuk 11:30 a.m. D.A. = Powell & Becca Klaver 1:00 p.m. Rigoberto Gonz=E1lez & Maria Mel=E9ndez 2:30 p.m. Sheila E. Murphy & Geraldine Connolly 4:00 p.m. Anne Waldman & Laynie Browne for more see http://poetrycenter.arizona.edu/events/springreadings_10-festival.shtml http://tucsonfestivalofbooks.org/section/index =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:00:39 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: { brad brace } Subject: Grenadines: a travel journal Comments: To: WRYTING-L automatic digest -- Theory and Writing , fluxlist@yahoogroups.com, ART-ALL@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, Art Criticism Discussion Forum , fluxnexus@yahoogroups.com, 7-11@mail.ljudmila.org, webartery , outsiderscollective@onemannation.com, spidertangle@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Grenadines: (Island 6.0) a tedious and lengthy travel journal packed with helpful information and absurd detail: http://bbrace.net/wordpress/ http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/wordpress/ Global Islands Project -- ongoing series of multi-media pdf-ebooks/field-recordings -- a pastoral, pictorial and phonic elicitation of island parameters. Your world is based on mutual relief at your common corruption. Maybe some cultures are based on even worse. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:24:40 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: re Ekleksographia - Get Ready! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for your posting Setphen--this is indeed a very stunning and fascinating journal--i sure hope to contribute to a future issue from just reading many of the pieces inside-- Something that has always struck me in the designation of your works and that of others as "haptic" is that itis not the haptic at al that one is writing of nor seeing, looking at, but the "touching"--that is the touching as in the sentimental, the recording of sentiments, rather than the actual physical touching, which is what the haptic really is. There is even a formof engineering now devoted to creating "haptic robots," which are able to discern the differences in touch between various textures which the robo= t is directed to touch and compare--to indicate that it does have a sense of touch developed enough to "feel the difference" between the different textures. I find that in discussing these differences between the actual haptic act o= f the touch and the removed, distanced, as it were "narratives and sentimentalized" 'touching" response is that one is encountering a kind of gulf, a chasm, between what is considered being literally in touch with the world and one in which an experience in which an after the fact recording o= f a preconceived set of sensations as a form of =93record=94 do not as it wer= e =93touch.=94 Instead, there is a kind of gulf, a chasm, and it often gives me to wonder what it is that one might sense this. Perhaps a bit further on here I may express a few thoughts which have occurred to one through time-- Mind you, I do not mean this as a kind of put down of the kinds of works Stephen and other=92s do, not at all, and especially not of dear friend men= tor Bob Cobbing=92s =93allegorical haptic,=94 --what i find instead is a form o= f field of investigation into the meaning of what it is to touch and "to be touched= " ("move") in encountering the visual records which are those of the encounter with the materials. What I mean is a difference between actual direct physical touching and the emotionally =93touching,=94 the recording of =93sensations=94 of the mental= and visual variety. Which is also not the same as the putting down on canvas = of =93mes petites sensations devant la Nature=94 as Cezanne wrote of his work= s. (=93My little sensations before/in facing Nature.=94) A person wrote of my rubBeings that they proved that what Nerval calle= d the impossibility of the ground itself speaking was made suddenly not impossible, for in these works it is the ground itself which is speaking, emerging in its own notations on the page, rather than an imposition of my own views on the nature of the ground or myself either one of us =93speakin= g." It is perhaps the difference between direct physical contact with an "Outside," and the "sentimentalized" (sentiment in the sense of feelings rather than feeling as in touch--) experience of "the touching" as recorded via techniques which present the "image of a feeling" rather than the direc= t imprint of the touching of the materials with the hand. In the "sentimental= " case, one has a sense of the evacuation of the actual in favor of the re-construction of a set of detached images which "stand in" for an experience which occurs "after the fact" in the form of a narrative of an abstraction. For I do not think that it is an =93I=94 that speaks at al but someth= ing greater made out of the touching of the crayon and hand on one side of the paper and that of the materials on the other side, thus creating what Burroughs and Gysin called their works together, =93The Third Mind.=94 And= that Third Mind indeed is a ground speaking, an actual =93material language=94 o= f texture, color, dirt, noise and song which emrge into a dance choreographed by the forms, while the hoise which rises into music is that of the singing of the lines of the matruial as it merges with that of the rubBEing and so= =97I touch the line and it sings-- Paul Celan wrote that "Poetry no longer impose itself, it exposes itself." Yet one still finds that in a poetry of the touching, one is imposing as it were a sensation from within one=92s self onto a material wh= ich itself remains distanced, and doubly distanced in that its recording is not done directly but by the indirect means of the exposures the camera and distanced again by being formed into a series which did not exist as itself= . There is also involved here the discussions around what it is to have, to find, to make an "impersonal poetry." this tends to be done in this culture via machines as that is the association which is most often made in conjunction with an image of the "impersonal." The impersonal may also be thought of in relation with copying, with "non-originality," yet again the impersonality is simply the donning of another's mask and voice rather than using one's own. It is simply a substitution of subjectivities which is at work, and belongs to drama--I find it at least much more to the field of performance than to that of an impersonality. Is there then impersonality in the rubBEings? One hopes that as much as possible that is not such but more the personality of the materials themselves which is being expressed via the imprinting of itself done by as "primitive=92s possible method--that ancient one of the rubBEing. What one hope is being conveyed is the taphonomic presence of the objet--that is the thing s as they exist in their current state, which is one that registers what may ion man ways be the most impersonal of al presences--that of Time. By this I mean that as I work I am conscious of the exact Time which is existing in and as the work=97the directions of the wind, the degree of hea= t or cold, the humidity or dryness, the materials around one which include dust and leaf mold, dirt and tar, car exhaust and cigarette smoke, the passing scents of perfumed young women or the sweating forms of runners and so on. At every instant al of these things are in flux, changing, in large ways and small and it is al of these thing which are going into the making of the piece itself whose surfaces are registering themselves the heat the wetness the movements the air the thicknesses of smoke or scents of blood o= r decay or molds . . . al of the things are the markings of Time, for with each moments things are passing away, changing , their forms being worn down, decaying crumbling, falling apart, the lettres becoming evermore blurred or fragmented, the wood become every more rotten or hardened, the air itself being evermore saturated with pollution=97so Time, that great impersonal being which is passing, is expressing itself in the very fibers of the pieces, in the most tiny particles which have become ingrained as it were in the woven interstices of the paper, in the woven grains of the hands their lines, their broken and chipped bones, their smashed and tenuously functioning nerve endings=97 And at the same time all of this disintegration is going on, there=92s the creation of new forms out of the constellations made in the chaos collapses of every instant passing things further into the distances of time thought it is but millisecond away=97the past the future and the present which is a presence passing=97so ephemeral and at the same having a quality of enduran= ce, an obdurate eternity as it were a stubborn refusal while at the same time dancing the night away=97 Energy=97time is in this energy, time is the energy, time and light as they affect the materials, the hands, the paper=97 This gives an enduring sense of life as a form at once of refusal and acceptance of time=97 In a sense this is the impersonality which is expressed, this ongoing time which is =93outside oneself=92 yet which one is =93inside of.=94 Oneself at= the same time. Similarly in the touch I feel that ongoing sense of al the hands tha= t have been the blood coursing through mine, Al those hands that have worked with wood and bark and water and stone for three hundred fity years in Nort= h America, and longer=97before the blood was mixed into French and Indian=97s= o long the blood in the hands has been working with the things in these place= s that the hand itself is not one=92s own=97but simply a very active and haptically engaged hand of centuries stil finding its way along grains of wood and the time existing in waters and skies, in the stones and the passing of shadows of the outstretched limbs of trees playing over the cracks of the sidewalks which Bob Cobbing and I used to sound out as notations for performance many years ago In that sense al these things touching each other understand the transience of their encounters, the speed=97which means the swiftnesses and slownesses= -- with which al this is passing-and at the same time the deep encounter withi= n the moment when the presences meet and make their signs together and pass on=97 This does not mean an encounter with an identity but rather the passing awa= y of identity into something far greater than itself, something that is truly outside and whose outside is also inside one, that continual sense of being at once present and incredibly distant, from some other time and place and al the while uncannily familiar yet always strangely here. It is an encounter with that other which is oneself, some otherness encountering the continual otherness of the things one lives among=97things= as much known as any person and at the same time just as strange-- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:34:04 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: peter ganick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 experiential-experimental literature blog. literature that changes consciousness. send submissions to text-only. no visuals. http://ex-ex-lit.blogspot.com thanks, peter ganick ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:46:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Peter Grieco Subject: Re: WATERS COLOURS In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Brad, These are fantastic! 15, 28, 38 standout amoung many others. Give me a feeling of lightness & plentitude. http://www.moriapoetry.com check these poems. Best, Peter --- On Sun, 3/7/10, { brad brace } wrote: > From: { brad brace } > Subject: WATERS COLOURS > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:44 PM > just finished my webpage for my > watercolours that I've started to do on my trips -- > a lot of fun for me without all the usual conceptual and > 'project' baggage.... /:b > > http://bbrace.net/webgallerywc/wc.html > http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/webgallerywc/wc.html > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all > posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:42:36 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Vincent Subject: New Lorine Niedecker Film!!! Comments: To: UK POETRY , "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IMMORTAL CUPBOARD: In Search of Lorine Niedecker =A0a film by Cathy C. Coo= k. (73 minutes).=A0 Just saw at Alternative Television Access, San Francisc= o last night. Extraordinary,'wet' & beautifully done. Sets a=0Anew high - a= t least for myself -=A0 in what is possible with a poet/bio flic. I you are= Bay Area local it will be also=0Ascreened at 5:30 at=A0 UC Berkeley Englis= h=A0 Department on Monday with Cook on board - who speaks real well, too. C= heck their website for room detail.=20 I did not ask but suspect the film (CD)=A0 will end up in some kind of dist= ribution channel.=20 Stephen Vincent http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:57:28 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: William Allegrezza Subject: Younger Italian-American Poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A Italian friend of mine is looking for young or lesser known American or Latin American poets of Italian descent for an upcoming anthology. If you have someone to suggest, please send me an e-mail. , -------- Un amigo m=EDo italiano est=E1 buscando a poetas americanos o latinoamericanos jovenes o menos conocidos de la ascendencia italiana para una antolog=EDa. Si tienes alguien a sugerir, env=EDeme un correo electr=F3nico. Bill Allegrezza =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:38:52 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: Chirot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit who what are outsider poets no one eer answered my quest/ion ME??? no education no whatt??? what??? what who is/are outsider(s)? On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:31:19 -0800 David Chirot writes: > I'n very honored and excited to have as Jerome Rothenberg's Poets > and > Poetics blog current entry essay of mine on the Gunatanamo Poets, > which > originally appeared in KAURABI have provided the link here for the > esay's > original appearnce and the current one at Jerry's blog, along with > the link > to another piece of mine re the Guantanamo Poets which appeared in > WordforWord #13 on "Waterboarding and Poetry: Francois Villon and > the new > Extreme Experimental American Poetry." > > I hope that listserv memebrs and any and evryone may find something > of > interest and use in the essays, themselves part of an ongoing and > ever > expanding series of works across several genres and media-- > onwo/ards! > david-bc > and happy weekend, with the advent of Daylight Savings Time!! > Outsider Poems, A Mini-Anthology in Progress (14): David Baptiste > Chirot, > Non-Poetry for Non-Readers (Poems from > Guantánamo) > [a commentary on *Poems from Guantánamo: The Detainees > Speak > *, edited by Marc Falkoff, University of Iowa Press, 2007] > > (towards a non-reading - American abolition of "non-literatures" - > an entry > in the Annals of the New Extreme Experimental Poetry) > > "*The blank and ruin we see in Nature is within our own eye*." > --R.W. Emerson, "Nature" > > 1. David-Baptiste *Chirot* // Word For/Word: A Journal of New > Writing * > ...* > Some American reviewers and commentators on the *Poets* of > *Guantanamo*have so far found exactly what they were looking for: > "bad" poetry in Formal > terms, *...* > www.wordforword.info/vol13/dbc.htm - > vol13/dbc.htm+chirot+on+guantanamo+poets&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client= gmail> > 2. Poems and Poetics > *...* (14): David Baptiste *Chirot*, Non-Poetry for Non-Readers > (Poems > from *Guantánamo*). [a commentary on Poems from *Guantánamo*: > The > Detainees Speak, *...* which and into which the *Guantanamo > poets* and > poems emerge and become re-confined. *...* > poemsand*poet*ics.blogspot.com/ - > Cached- > > Similar > 3. KAURAB Online :: A Bengali Poetry Webzine :: Translation > Site > David Baptiste *Chirot*. "The blank and ruin we see in Nature is > within > our *...* and into which the *Guantanamo poets* and poems emerge > and > become re-confined. *...* > kaurab.tripod.com/english/books/*guantanamo*.html > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:20:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Lynn Xu Subject: CANARIUM WEST COAST READING TOUR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *CANARIUM BOOKS* announces new titles for spring! *www.canariumbooks.org John Beer*: *The Waste Land and Other Poems*. ("Only a genius could write = a book called *The Waste Land and Other Poems*. Well, John Beer is that person. 'I set out to write a treatise on failure, and it turned out my subject was love,' he writes. 'Call it my confusion.' We should all be so confused." -- *John Ashbery*) *Paul Killebrew*: *Flowers*. (=93All my poet friends mourned when Paul tol= d us he=92d be going into law, so soon after he appeared on the scene as a supernova. =91No fear. The blue light. My breath washing out in the air.=92= Yes. He came out strengthened. Grown in imagination. Bigger in his lucid scannin= g of America. Rejuvenating. To read him is a delight.=94 -- *Tomaz Salamun*) *Suzanne Buffam*: *The Irrationalist*. (=93Buffam=92s often deadpan tone i= s like a magical dustpan that sweeps up the strangest observations and ideas, all worlds to themselves. Her =91Little Commentaries=92=97=91On Pi=F1atas,= =92 =91On Fountains,=92 and =91On Vanishing Acts=92 (to name only a few)=97are absolu= te gems, kin to Anne Carson=92s town poems and Yoko Ono=92s *Grapefruit*. Buffam=92s= poems tug at new corners of the brain. They=92re marvelous.=94 -- *Matthea Harvey= *) *Ish Klein*: *Union!* ("Klein resembles an updated Whitman in the best possible ways.=94 -- *Gently Read Literature* | =93I mean it when I say Ish Klein is a genius." --* Dorothea Lasky*) ___________________________ *CANARIUM WEST COAST TOUR (JOHN BEER, PAUL KILLEBREW, and ISH KLEIN): * *THU 18 MAR (Hosted by Poetry Flash) **MOE'S BOOKS (2476 Telegraph Ave, Berkeley) @ 7:30pm* *FRI 19 MAR @ GREAT OVERLAND BOOK CO (345 Judah St., San Francisco) @ 7:15p= m SAT 20 MAR @ ASHLAND PUBLIC LIBRARY (410 Siskiyou Blvd, Ashland) @ 1pm SAT 20 MAR @ DIVA CENTER (110 West Broadway, Eugene) @ 7pm SUN 21 MAR @ SPARE ROOM (2909 NE Alberta, Portland) @ 7:30pm MON 22 MAR @ PILOT BOOKS (219 Broadway E., Seattle) @ 7pm * Please join us! We look forward to seeing you, Canarium Books | www.canariumbooks.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:43:46 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Corey Frost Subject: Multiformalisms: This Tuesday, 6:30 at the CUNY Grad Center. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tuesday, March 16, 2010. 6:30 pm. At the CUNY Graduate Center, 365 Fifth Avenue New York, Rm. 9206. Multiformalisms : Postmodern Poetics of Form Join poet and editor Annie Finch, along with contributors to the anthology Multiformalisms: Postmodern Poetics of Form, for a lively discussion of how contemporary poets use and understand forms. The conversation, like the book, will juxtapose traditional formalism and Flarf, the American long poem and native Hawaiian poetry, rhyme in Paul Muldoon and textual variability in New Media poetry, Susan Howe and Lucinda Roy, jazz and Asian American poetics, and much more. Featuring Marilyn Hacker, Patricia Smith, Tyler Hoffman, Stefania deKenessey, and Marie-Elizabeth Mali. Presented by the Center for the Humanities and the GC Poetics Group. Moderated by Corey Frost. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:35:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Evelyn Posamentier Subject: Very OT: Californians for Education Funding (much apologies for cross-posting) Comments: To: new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, WOM-PO@LISTS.ncc.edu, BRITISH-IRISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A message from a daily lurker: I'm writing to tell you that all California schools (K - Nobel folk) succeded in our March 4 Day of Action rally throughout the state (and a number nationally, as well) to support our demand for proper educational funding. Thousands of us statewide participated in Walkouts and Rallies. While considerable media coverage was of small highway sitins, most of us attended and conducted rallies at our various sites. The next major California action takes place on March 22. Buses from all over the state will be converging in Sacramento, our state capitol, and then marching to Mr. Schwarzenegger's door. I'm asking you all to keep us in your thoughts that day. (You might say that this is Poetry in Motion!) Thanks for listening! Lurkers Anonymous p.s By way of introduction, google me to see some of my work -- ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:56:02 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: 25 questions/ # 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable # 2: Can there be truly objective criteria for judging a poem? G. E. Schwartz =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:27:47 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jesse Glass Subject: Ahadada Books Presents: Ekleksographia: William Blake's Haptic Tea Party--Now In Progress! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Watch Sarah Sanders in her writing marathon. Then check out the rest of the issue. Jess, with more flash than he can say! http://ekleksographia.ahadadabooks.com/davenport/authors/sarah_sanders.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:29:39 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: how does one begin? a poetics at turning forty by rob mclennan http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-does-one-begin-poetics-at-turning.html -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:50:39 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Aldon Nielsen Subject: Raves for Rae MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awoke this morning to the good news of this well-deserved recognition for Rae Armantrout's *Versed*. RTS, BRIEFLY Book Critics Circle Presents Awards By MOTOKO RICH; Compiled by DAVE ITZKOFF Published: March 12, 2010 The British author Hilary Mantel was awarded the National Book Critics Circle Award for fiction at the Tishman Auditorium of theNew School on Thursday night for =93Wolf Hall,=94 a historical novel about the court of H= enry VIII that centered on the king=92s adviser Thomas Cromwell. Ms. Mantel had already won the 41st-annualMan Booker Prize last fall for the book. The board of the National Book Critics Circle, a nonprofit group of more than 600 professional book reviewers, cited Ms. Mantel for a work that was =93original in voice and ambitious in style.=94 = Richard Holmes won the nonfiction award for =93The Age of Wonder: How the Romantic Generation Discovered the Beauty and Terror of Science.=94 Blake Bailey won the biography award for =93Cheever: A Life.=94 Diana Athill won the autobiography award for =93Somewhere Towards the End: A Memoir.=94 The poet= ry prize went to Rae Armantroutfor =93Versed,=94 and the criticism prize was awarded to Eula Biss for =93Notes From No Man=92s Land: American Essays.=94 --=20 Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature Department of English 117 Burrowes Building The Pennsylvania State University University Park, PA 16802-6200 aln10@psu.edu sailing the blogosphere at http://heatstrings.blogspot.com "kindling his mind (more than his mind will kindle)" --William Carlos Williams, early adopter =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:06:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Emma Bolden Subject: Re: Younger Italian-American Poets In-Reply-To: <7ebc05131003130957o69d43e61y7e73e86e94007765@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am of Italian descent, as is Emari Digiorgio! On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:57 PM, William Allegrezza wrote: > A Italian friend of mine is looking for young or lesser known American > or Latin American poets of Italian descent for an upcoming anthology. > If you have someone to suggest, please send me an e-mail. > , > -------- > > Un amigo m=EDo italiano est=E1 buscando a poetas americanos o > latinoamericanos jovenes o menos conocidos de la ascendencia italiana > para una antolog=EDa. Si tienes alguien a sugerir, env=EDeme un correo > electr=F3nico. > > Bill Allegrezza > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > --=20 Emma Bolden www.emmabolden.wordpress.com Visiting Assistant Professor Department of English Georgetown College 400 East College Street Georgetown, KY 40324 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:55:03 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Would you buy art? A poem? Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would you pay for a poem? Possible? Worth it? What's art worth? Is poetry art? Is capitalism art? Is there a support-artists culture? Here - http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/paid-for-poem/ Thanks, Amy _______ HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:04:45 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Would you buy art? A poem? In-Reply-To: <490359.51239.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i sometimes pay street people $1 for a poem if they have a sign offering that. i was going to pay Bernadette Mayer for a poem for a conference a few years ago (she had a standing offer out for topical poems for pay) but i didn't get it together. in 1977 i paid $2 for Allen Ginsberg to write a haiku for me for a Naropa benefit. I wish i could find that haiku now. Because i was standing with my friend Julia Sagebien, whom he knew, i know the phrase "rosy dyke" was in it. amy king wrote: > Would you pay for a poem? Possible? Worth it? What's art worth? Is poetry art? Is capitalism art? Is there a support-artists culture? > > Here - http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/paid-for-poem/ > > Thanks, > > Amy > > _______ > > > HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: > > http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:37:10 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: susan maurer Subject: Re: Would you buy art? A poem? In-Reply-To: <490359.51239.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hm wanted to comment on word press but was defeated by the technology. inte= resting topic as i am now reaping the rewards in terms of at least quadrupl= ed readership as my first book is free and may be read or printed out onlin= e. certainly i draw a big line on paying to get published=2C self publishin= g and always send to mags which pay whenever possible. In general i hold to= the notion valued and paid for are often cousins. i am frequently deviled = by the question i have about what if anything constitutes social actvism in= poetry but maybe sometimes..Susan Maurer =20 > Date: Mon=2C 15 Mar 2010 10:55:03 -0700 > From: amyhappens@yahoo.com > Subject: Would you buy art? A poem? > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > Would you pay for a poem? Possible? Worth it? What's art worth? Is poetry= art? Is capitalism art? Is there a support-artists culture? >=20 > Here - http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/paid-for-poem/ >=20 > Thanks=2C >=20 > Amy >=20 > _______ >=20 >=20 > HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: >=20 > http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your = inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:15:55 -0400 Reply-To: halvard@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: 25 questions/ # 2 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Only if they can be arrived at by counting. Hal follow this link to The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye, my latest collection -- http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/14481250-chalk-editions Halvard Johnson ================ halvard@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > # 2: Can there be truly objective criteria for judging a poem? > > G. E. Schwartz > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:01:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gregg Murray Subject: Re: Would you buy art? A poem? In-Reply-To: <4B9E76BD.7090808@umn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Amy, I tried to buy Maria Damon a beer during a group collaboration for saying, "James Joyce Audubon Society" Ggg ________________________________ From: Maria Damon To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 2:04:45 PM Subject: Re: Would you buy art? A poem? i sometimes pay street people $1 for a poem if they have a sign offering that. i was going to pay Bernadette Mayer for a poem for a conference a few years ago (she had a standing offer out for topical poems for pay) but i didn't get it together. in 1977 i paid $2 for Allen Ginsberg to write a haiku for me for a Naropa benefit. I wish i could find that haiku now. Because i was standing with my friend Julia Sagebien, whom he knew, i know the phrase "rosy dyke" was in it. amy king wrote: > Would you pay for a poem? Possible? Worth it? What's art worth? Is poetry art? Is capitalism art? Is there a support-artists culture? > > Here - http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/paid-for-poem/ > > Thanks, > > Amy > > _______ > > > HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: > > http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Elecsographia - Sarah Saunders life & much more Comments: To: UK POETRY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The new=C2=A0 issue of Elecsographia has just=0Agone up - including my very= own "Tree Haptics" including=C2=A0 a little essay, as=0Awell. For me it is= very gratifying to see a number of writers using=C2=A0 "haptics" as an ope= rative term for the making of their work=C2=A0=0A(Helps take one of my obse= ssions out of the woods!).=20 =0AIf you go to the site right now (url below) you will a real time video= =0Aof Sarah Saunders making a big piece - started this sunrise that will=0A= finish sunrise tomorrow. The video provides a wonderfully tangible sense=0A= of physical process and material - more like being in a woodshop than a=0Aw= orkshop! Her fingers, pencils, the texture of paper, etc. Go to: =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0http://ekleksographia.ahadadabooks.com/dav= enport/authors/sarah_sanders.html=0A =0A =0AStephen V =0Ahttp://stephenvincent.net/blog/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:37:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: CA Conrad Subject: Lamantia's THE BLOOD OF THE AIR on the Vernal Equinox MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010 marks the 40th anniversary of the publication of Philip Lamantia's THE BLOOD OF THE AIR We're having an URCHIN reading 3/20/10 at the transition into renewal of the air, where the blood of the air awakens with pollen, sex, life. Details here: http://UrchinPoetry.blogspot.com (NOTE: AT 7PM ONE BLOCK AWAY COME CELEBRATE STAN MIR'S NEW BOOK AT A BOOK PARTY AT BRICKBAT BOOKS) -- PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:25:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bill Berkson Subject: Berkson in Buffalo MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Bill Berkson in Buffalo: Poetry Readings & Art Talks Thursday, March 18, 4 pm Poetry Reading & Discussion Student Union Assembly Hall Buffalo State College Friday, March 19, 7 pm Lecture: "DeKooning-esque" Albright-Knox Art Gallery Saturday, March 20, 12:30 pm "Gotham News": Gallery Walk & Talk Albright Knox Art Gallery * March 20, 8 pm Poetry Reading Just Buffalo Western New York Book Arts Center 468 Washington Street ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:03:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sarah Sarai Subject: Re: 25 questions: question # 1... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Alan, So the question relates to recipients of grant money or tenure? It may, = it=20 does but temporal issues--are we "judging" now or will a new we judge in=20= another century--fold into the batter. People are functions. Alas or not= .=20 Why not poems. Are poems better than people? Love is a judgment.=20 Passion too.=20 Gerald: I might "judge" a poem I loved now against I poem I love from=20= the past. This is fun. Sarah RE: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > Question # 1: > > Should any current poet be judged against only the very best works of=20= > the past? > > G. E. Schwartz > Beyond the issue of what constitutes genre, canon, and "best," not to=20 mention "current" or "poet": there is also the question of judgment. Is a poem written to be judged, any more than an experience is judged? How does one judge anything that has no possibility either of quantifiabl= e=20 results or verification procedures (not to mention falsifiability)? How would you compare a contemporary poet to the poetry of Sumer? One might think immediately that the habitus of each is fundamentally=20 unknowable to that of the other. The same might be true, say, of Swinburne and Sondheim. What about Sondheim and Damon? Does the synchronic necessarily lend=20 itself=20 to judgment and comparison? On the other hand, let's say that judgment has a pragmatics: of grant,=20= job, publication. Then judgment also implies an ecology and competition:=20= writing is now a contestation, which implies as well a curlicue or=20 diacritical marking beyond the ostensible 'content' of the text, no matte= r=20 how defined. In other words: Here is my poem; rate it; act accordingly. The poem is now a function. It's a function within a potentially limited space-time event or attentio= n=20 economy. There is nothing right or wrong with this approach, either. Nor of the other approach. It becomes a matter of taste, connoisseurship: Of who is judging, and=20 who=20 is being judged. And, like pretty much anything in poetry/poetics, this i= s=20 also something that's basically - i.e. ontologically, epistemologically,=20= unanswerable, because the question, just like the "Should" in the=20 question=20 above, is problematic, self-deconstructing upon closer examination. =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:18:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: Chirot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog In-Reply-To: <20100313.143852.3616.53.skyplums@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is in response to Steve Dalichinsky's question:=20 Date: Sat=2C 13 Mar 2010 14:38:52 +0530 > From: skyplums@JUNO.COM > Subject: Re: Chirot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > who what are outsider poets no one eer answered my quest/ion ME??? > no education no whatt??? what??? what who is/are outsider(s)? Dear Stephen-- when i first read Jerry's announcement on the Poetics List last September--= that he is working on line on an envisioned Anthology of Outsider Poetry--i also wondered--and do wonder yet--what an Outsider Poetry might be=97 Does it mean a kind of extension into poetry of the examples drawn from "Outsider Art?"--(some of the examples you use here are among those used in the general ideas put forward as criteria for "Outsider Art")--is it =93importing=94=97from another =93field=94-in a way that perhaps is like= that of the Slow Food Movement being included into the Slow Poetry Movement--??) Outsider in relation to what as "Inside?"-- How might the "Outside" Poet and Poetry mini-Anthology differ from Antholog= ies like the "Outlaw Bible of American Poetry" or--any number of anthologies previously assembled by Jerry=2C George Quasha=2C Richard Alpert=2C Richard= Kostelanetz and many others?--Or any example of a collection of "avant-garde" and "experimental" poetries? Since Jerry has worked so long in so many areas of Poetry=2C i thought he m= ight have perhaps already some ideas as to his conceptions of what an Outsider P= oetry is--yet i have a feeling--this is just my own "intuition" really--i have a feeling that part of what really sets this project apart is that the nature of the Outside and Outsider may emerge in at least some guises and t= hat these will emerge as the projects moves along. That to me is the really be= autiful part of the Anthology--that it is being assembled in "real time" and on line--one may follow it as it develops--and=2C more than that=2C besides fi= nding examples which might function as "answers=2C" what one really finds=2C to me at any rate=2C is the openness to a continual questioning and finding=2C= an openness to the idea that this is not already a pre conceived set of exampl= es=2C prejudices=2C opinions=2C nor a trendy tip of the hat to any other movement= s etc--but truly is an ongoing investigation. When Gertrude Stein=2C so the story goes=2C was on her dying bed--she looke= d up at whoever was present--and said--"What is the answer?"--Then--laughing--she "answered" by saying--"What is the question?" I think the nature of this project=2C or the way i understand it and work w= ith it=2C is to keep asking questions--interesting & useful questions that as t= hey emerge lead to further question=2C findings=2C researches and the development of new methods=2C te= chniques=2C new conceptions=2C as well as the re-finding of older examples from around = the world which themselves ask questions which are just as alive today as when first asked-- Questioning is something much absent in discussions of any kind today--what= is really wanted=2C for the most part=2C are examples=2C descriptions=2C categ= ories=2C jargons=2C and ways to pigeon hole a poet or form of poetry. This allows for the creation of new anthologies=2C new job descriptions for candidates = for such and such a position=2C opens much needed vacancies in the employment w= orld of today--To have the answers means also that a sense of "order" is created=2C in order to fix with in the orders hierarchies=2C steps on the c= areer path=2C ways to pad the resume and so forth. Answers also give one the sense that due to Order being established=2C it must be maintained and vari= ous "security measures taken=2C=94 in order to protect the boundaries and membe= rs of such and such a grouping=2C such and such a "movement"--to the point where orders are in fact necessary to keep order. That is=2C a process of arranging a certain status quo which must be kept by following the orders o= f the day vis a vis such and such an Authority=2C Group and etc-- When the announcement of the Anthology was first made=2C i had only questions--and was amazed to find that they were invited to appear at the P= oets and Poetics mini-anthology in the making of the Outsider Poetry and Poets-- since i can't give you an answer per se--here are the questions again=2C wi= th the link where to find them. hopefully they may be of interest and use--not in answering=2C but in findi= ng ever more questions to ask-- Rather than the delineating of boundaries "in order" to demonstrate what are the boundaries of Outsider Poetry=2C--one finds bridges=2C links= =2C trains of associations--with which to further investigate and think on these quest= ions re the Outsider Poetry-- Not Barriers--Bridges--Not Walls--but Windows-- Here is the response to the announcement--i hope it's useful & interesting-= - http://poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/2009/09/outsider-poems-mini-anthology-i= n.html > Date: Sat=2C 13 Mar 2010 14:38:52 +0530 > From: skyplums@JUNO.COM > Subject: Re: Chirot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > who what are outsider poets no one eer answered my quest/ion ME??? > no education no whatt??? what??? what who is/are outsider(s)? >=20 >=20 > On Fri=2C 12 Mar 2010 00:31:19 -0800 David Chirot > writes: > > I'n very honored and excited to have as Jerome Rothenberg's Poets=20 > > and > > Poetics blog current entry essay of mine on the Gunatanamo Poets=2C=20 > > which > > originally appeared in KAURABI have provided the link here for the=20 > > esay's > > original appearnce and the current one at Jerry's blog=2C along with=20 > > the link > > to another piece of mine re the Guantanamo Poets which appeared in > > WordforWord #13 on "Waterboarding and Poetry: Francois Villon and=20 > > the new > > Extreme Experimental American Poetry." > >=20 > > I hope that listserv memebrs and any and evryone may find something=20 > > of > > interest and use in the essays=2C themselves part of an ongoing and=20 > > ever > > expanding series of works across several genres and media-- > > onwo/ards! > > david-bc > > and happy weekend=2C with the advent of Daylight Savings Time!! > > Outsider Poems=2C A Mini-Anthology in Progress (14): David Baptiste=20 > > Chirot=2C > > Non-Poetry for Non-Readers (Poems from > > > Guant=E1namo) ni-anthology-in.html> > > [a commentary on *Poems from Guant=E1namo: The Detainees > > Speak > > *=2C edited by Marc Falkoff=2C University of Iowa Press=2C 2007] > >=20 > > (towards a non-reading - American abolition of "non-literatures" -=20 > > an entry > > in the Annals of the New Extreme Experimental Poetry) > >=20 > > "*The blank and ruin we see in Nature is within our own eye*." > > --R.W. Emerson=2C "Nature" > >=20 > > 1. David-Baptiste *Chirot* // Word For/Word: A Journal of New=20 > > Writing * > > ...* > > Some American reviewers and commentators on the *Poets* of > > *Guantanamo*have so far found exactly what they were looking for: > > "bad" poetry in Formal > > terms=2C *...* > > www.wordforword.info/vol13/dbc.htm - > > > vol13/dbc.htm+chirot+on+guantanamo+poets&cd=3D4&hl=3Den&ct=3Dclnk&gl=3Dus= &client=3D > gmail> > > 2. Poems and Poetics > > *...* (14): David Baptiste *Chirot*=2C Non-Poetry for Non-Readers=20 > > (Poems > > from *Guant=E1namo*). [a commentary on Poems from *Guant=E1namo*:=20 > > The > > Detainees Speak=2C *...* which and into which the *Guantanamo=20 > > poets* and > > poems emerge and become re-confined. *...* > > poemsand*poet*ics.blogspot.com/ - > > > Cached blogspot.com/+chirot+on+guantanamo+poets&cd=3D5&hl=3Den&ct=3Dclnk&gl=3Dus= &client=3D > gmail>- > > =20 > > > Similar poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/+chirot+on+guantanamo+poets&sa=3DX&ei=3DbZKZ= S838 > LcL78Aavu8nGCg&ved=3D0CBoQHzAE> > > 3. KAURAB Online :: A Bengali Poetry Webzine :: Translation > > Site > > David Baptiste *Chirot*. "The blank and ruin we see in Nature is=20 > > within > > our *...* and into which the *Guantanamo poets* and poems emerge=20 > > and > > become re-confined. *...* > > kaurab.tripod.com/english/books/*guantanamo*.html > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:28:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: 4 hopeful pieces with descriptions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed 4 hopeful pieces with descriptions http://www.alansondheim.org/city.mp3 I've been thinking about the infinity of cities, the depth of soundscapes and the romantic plenitude of nature. This is out the window of our loft; every sound in the city contributes, every cough or whistle miles away, every tire on asphalt. It always amazes me: this is the murmuring of a technological world coming to an end, perhaps, within a century. There are sub-bass harmonies here as well - harmonies which dominate the aural landscape, but which are inaudible to human ears. Even in this recording, one senses them. I've just finished Lamartine's uncanny Raphael, a book in which the natural world of meadows and streams runs through emotional states, tending towards both exaltation and cessation. I can imagine Julie at walk among the Brooklyn forests of streets, still listening, but with a greater hunger. HOPEFUL: The depth of the city revealed as a new cosmos with everyone present, all the time. http://www.alansondheim.org/melodeon.mp3 Recently acquired this 1847 melodeon thanks to book trading. The bellows are bad; the vacuum box won't hold a vacuum; three valves are broken; the vacuum box needs to be opened; several reeds won't sound. So it's in great need of repair. In the meantime, furious pumping and a lot of reverb makes this odd sound file; you can hear the bellows working. It's actually quite a beautiful instrument, and will sound great once it's restored. HOPEFUL: A melodeon sounding like it did in 1847, when it was in someone's parlor. http://www.alansondheim.org/hybrid1.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/hybrid2.mp3 Playing around with the rishi on the oud, alternating with finger-picking. It's difficult to keep the rishi (pick) available if I'm using everything else on the strings. So it's rishi in the mouth, rishi on the floor, rishi on the knee, rishi held sometimes with two fingers, with a curled finger, with a thumb and finger, rishi sometimes dropped. On the other hand the sonority of the two interacting playing modes really interests me. HOPEFUL: Smooth transitions in-tune make for wonderful textures, melodies, and harmonies. HOPEFUL: The CITY SYMPHONY will make me rich; the MELODEON will bring untold pleasure to millions; the HYBRID OUD PLAYING will set new standards in improvisation world-wide. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:17:27 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: re Ekleksographia - Get Ready! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, "One hopes that as much as possible that is not such but more the personality of the materials themselves which is being expressed via the imprinting of itself done by as "primitive=92s possible method--that ancient one of the rubBEing." What you are describing -both the nature of the escape from the ego and the fusion of the subjective into the objective- is so much like the escape fro= m the ego in Sufism which I delineate in Eda: "Everything in that poetry becomes relatively clear from that perspective. Not only trees or animals, but in this poetry colors, objects, things, natural processes are in dialogue with each other, weaving their endless patterns. Eda is the structure of that pattern, the mesh of linguistic and geographic coordinates which go to its creation. Not the individual, but objects, colors, things are at the center of this endless transformation, the ego attached to it only tangentially, a detail, suffering and ecstatic. It is this peripheral relationship of consciousness to wider natural forces =97 subjective and objective, visceral and abstract =97 which gives Turkish poetry its stunning originality. Consciousness dies, the eye dis-solves into motion, silhouetted by the dark matter of words." "The Spritual Life of Replicants" As also in rubBEings, in this process time becomes the true subject, the textures, the sounds of its unfolding, the intricate pattern it weaves. As = a result one enters a space where language "almost" not exist, a spot at the periphery of language where language is in the process of being born, in your words, not yet "sentimentalized." Have you seen the Rivette film *La Petite Noisette* (the long, several hour= s version) where one hears the squeaks of the pen on paper as a portrait is being painted "in real time" (which the spectator will never see in completion and only in fragments in the process of being "created")? The spectator only sees the "model" who stands nakes during most of the movie; the painting itself is destroyed by the artist. The thoughts of disappearance is. Disappearance was. Thoughts of was is. is. is is sang the bird. in alternating shades. Ciao, Murat On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, David Chirot wrot= e: > Thank you for your posting Setphen--this is indeed a very stunning and > fascinating journal--i sure hope to contribute to a future issue from jus= t > reading many of the pieces inside-- > > Something that has always struck me in the designation of your works and > that of others as "haptic" is that itis not the haptic at al that one is > writing of nor seeing, looking at, but the "touching"--that is the touchi= ng > as in the sentimental, the recording of sentiments, rather than the actua= l > physical touching, which is what the haptic really is. There is even a > formof engineering now devoted to creating "haptic robots," which are abl= e > to discern the differences in touch between various textures which the > robot > is directed to touch and compare--to indicate that it does have a sense o= f > touch developed enough to "feel the difference" between the different > textures. > > I find that in discussing these differences between the actual haptic act > of > the touch and the removed, distanced, as it were "narratives and > sentimentalized" 'touching" response is that one is encountering a kind o= f > gulf, a chasm, between what is considered being literally in touch with t= he > world and one in which an experience in which an after the fact recording > of > a preconceived set of sensations as a form of =93record=94 do not as it w= ere > =93touch.=94 > > Instead, there is a kind of gulf, a chasm, and it often gives me to wonde= r > what it is that one might sense this. Perhaps a bit further on here I ma= y > express a few thoughts which have occurred to one through time-- > Mind you, I do not mean this as a kind of put down of the kinds of works > Stephen and other=92s do, not at all, and especially not of dear friend > mentor > Bob Cobbing=92s =93allegorical haptic,=94 --what i find instead is a form= of > field > of investigation into the meaning of what it is to touch and "to be > touched" > ("move") in encountering the visual records which are those of the > encounter with the materials. > > What I mean is a difference between actual direct physical touching and t= he > emotionally =93touching,=94 the recording of =93sensations=94 of the ment= al and > visual variety. Which is also not the same as the putting down on canvas > of > =93mes petites sensations devant la Nature=94 as Cezanne wrote of his wo= rks. > (=93My little sensations before/in facing Nature.=94) > > > A person wrote of my rubBeings that they proved that what Nerval call= ed > the impossibility of the ground itself speaking was made suddenly not > impossible, for in these works it is the ground itself which is speaking, > emerging in its own notations on the page, rather than an imposition of m= y > own views on the nature of the ground or myself either one of us > =93speaking." > > > It is perhaps the difference between direct physical contact with an > "Outside," and the "sentimentalized" (sentiment in the sense of feelings > rather than feeling as in touch--) experience of "the touching" as record= ed > via techniques which present the "image of a feeling" rather than the > direct > imprint of the touching of the materials with the hand. In the > "sentimental" > case, one has a sense of the evacuation of the actual in favor of the > re-construction of a set of detached images which "stand in" for an > experience which occurs "after the fact" in the form of a narrative of an > abstraction. > > For I do not think that it is an =93I=94 that speaks at al but somet= hing > greater made out of the touching of the crayon and hand on one side of th= e > paper and that of the materials on the other side, thus creating what > Burroughs and Gysin called their works together, =93The Third Mind.=94 A= nd > that > Third Mind indeed is a ground speaking, an actual =93material language=94= of > texture, color, dirt, noise and song which emrge into a dance choreograph= ed > by the forms, while the hoise which rises into music is that of the singi= ng > of the lines of the matruial as it merges with that of the rubBEing and > so=97I > touch the line and it sings-- > Paul Celan wrote that "Poetry no longer impose itself, it exposes > itself." Yet one still finds that in a poetry of the touching, one is > imposing as it were a sensation from within one=92s self onto a material > which > itself remains distanced, and doubly distanced in that its recording is n= ot > done directly but by the indirect means of the exposures the camera and > distanced again by being formed into a series which did not exist as > itself. > > There is also involved here the discussions around what it is to have, to > find, to make an "impersonal poetry." this tends to be done in this cultu= re > via machines as that is the association which is most often made in > conjunction with an image of the "impersonal." The impersonal may also b= e > thought of in relation with copying, with "non-originality," yet again th= e > impersonality is simply the donning of another's mask and voice rather th= an > using one's own. It is simply a substitution of subjectivities which is = at > work, and belongs to drama--I find it at least much more to the field of > performance than to that of an impersonality. > Is there then impersonality in the rubBEings? One hopes that as much as > possible that is not such but more the personality of the materials > themselves which is being expressed via the imprinting of itself done by = as > "primitive=92s possible method--that ancient one of the rubBEing. > What one hope is being conveyed is the taphonomic presence of the > objet--that is the thing s as they exist in their current state, which is > one that registers what may ion man ways be the most impersonal of al > presences--that of Time. > > By this I mean that as I work I am conscious of the exact Time which is > existing in and as the work=97the directions of the wind, the degree of h= eat > or cold, the humidity or dryness, the materials around one which include > dust and leaf mold, dirt and tar, car exhaust and cigarette smoke, the > passing scents of perfumed young women or the sweating forms of runners a= nd > so on. At every instant al of these things are in flux, changing, in lar= ge > ways and small and it is al of these thing which are going into the makin= g > of the piece itself whose surfaces are registering themselves the heat th= e > wetness the movements the air the thicknesses of smoke or scents of blood > or > decay or molds . . . al of the things are the markings of Time, for with > each moments things are passing away, changing , their forms being worn > down, decaying crumbling, falling apart, the lettres becoming evermore > blurred or fragmented, the wood become every more rotten or hardened, the > air itself being evermore saturated with pollution=97so Time, that great > impersonal being which is passing, is expressing itself in the very fiber= s > of the pieces, in the most tiny particles which have become ingrained as = it > were in the woven interstices of the paper, in the woven grains of the > hands their lines, their broken and chipped bones, their smashed and > tenuously functioning nerve endings=97 > > And at the same time all of this disintegration is going on, there=92s th= e > creation of new forms out of the constellations made in the chaos collaps= es > of every instant passing things further into the distances of time though= t > it is but millisecond away=97the past the future and the present which is= a > presence passing=97so ephemeral and at the same having a quality of > endurance, > an obdurate eternity as it were a stubborn refusal while at the same time > dancing the night away=97 > > Energy=97time is in this energy, time is the energy, time and light as th= ey > affect the materials, the hands, the paper=97 > > This gives an enduring sense of life as a form at once of refusal and > acceptance of time=97 > > In a sense this is the impersonality which is expressed, this ongoing tim= e > which is =93outside oneself=92 yet which one is =93inside of.=94 Oneself = at the > same > time. Similarly in the touch I feel that ongoing sense of al the hands > that > have been the blood coursing through mine, Al those hands that have worke= d > with wood and bark and water and stone for three hundred fity years in > North > America, and longer=97before the blood was mixed into French and Indian= =97so > long the blood in the hands has been working with the things in these > places > that the hand itself is not one=92s own=97but simply a very active and > haptically engaged hand of centuries stil finding its way along grains of > wood and the time existing in waters and skies, in the stones and the > passing of shadows of the outstretched limbs of trees playing over the > cracks of the sidewalks which Bob Cobbing and I used to sound out as > notations for performance many years ago > > In that sense al these things touching each other understand the transien= ce > of their encounters, the speed=97which means the swiftnesses and slowness= es-- > with which al this is passing-and at the same time the deep encounter > within > the moment when the presences meet and make their signs together and pass > on=97 > > This does not mean an encounter with an identity but rather the passing > away > of identity into something far greater than itself, something that is tru= ly > outside and whose outside is also inside one, that continual sense of bei= ng > at once present and incredibly distant, from some other time and place an= d > al the while uncannily familiar yet always strangely here. > It is an encounter with that other which is oneself, some otherness > encountering the continual otherness of the things one lives among=97thin= gs > as > much known as any person and at the same time just as strange-- > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:42:26 -0400 Reply-To: Aryanil Mukherjee Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Aryanil Mukherjee Subject: Update-5 @ KAURAB Online Translation Archive In-Reply-To: <15123872.33791268746216960.JavaMail.root@dom-zbox1.bo3.lycos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Update-5 of the KAURAB Online Translation Archive was released yesterday. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:13:31 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: re Ekleksographia - Get Ready! Comments: cc: Jonathan Skinner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Ekleksographia, the online mag is at: Version:=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttp://ekleksographia.ahadadabo= oks.com/ Thanks David and Murat for these 'rich' and giving responses.=20 David I love your 'industrial' vacant lot, street, etc. rubbings. Suggest b= y the way a visit to the 'nonsite collective' web page and the materials an= d introduction to Jonathan Skinner's discussion of the "Third Landscape" wh= ere the focus is on the middle ground between 'the preserved' and 'the wild= '. I think it's quite relevant to the spaces you explore and revive as a ki= nd of visual gardener. As to my own haptic work, I don't make my the process of my pieces to be a = step removed from the materiality of the space in which I situate their mak= ing (if that is what you are suggesting). I am very much 'in it.'=C2=A0 In = fact, in terms of your process of 'rubbing', when I am working, I=0A feel my senses are being 'rubbed' by whatever is em= anating from the environment,=0A poetry reading,music collaboration, and so= forth. The pen becomes a kind of dancer - mediating between space and sens= e responses. Yes, it is not 'objective' in the way of letting space occur a= s independently as possible. But the work/art becomes, perhaps, a manifesta= tion of this register of the=C2=A0 interplay between the two presences - ul= timately a kind of oneness in which the artist works with neither an imperi= al eye/sense or in a totally submissive or passive state. Frankly I like th= e dialog (the dance) that leads to this state of being totally immersed and= in the motion of things as they are.=C2=A0 Restorative on all levels.=C2= =A0=20 --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote: From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: re Ekleksographia - Get Ready! To:=0A POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 5:17 AM David, "One hopes that as much as possible that is not such but more the personality of the materials themselves which is being expressed via the imprinting of itself done by as "primitive=E2=80=99s possible method--that ancient one of the rubBEing." What you are describing -both the nature of the escape from the ego and the fusion of the subjective into the objective- is so much like the escape fro= m the ego in Sufism which I delineate in Eda: "Everything in that poetry becomes relatively clear from that perspective. Not only trees or animals, but in this poetry colors, objects, things, natural processes are in dialogue with each other, weaving their endless patterns. Eda is the structure of that pattern, the mesh of linguistic and geographic coordinates which go to its creation. Not the individual,=0A but objects, colors, things are at the center of this endless transformation, the ego attached to it only tangentially, a detail, suffering and ecstatic. It is this peripheral relationship of consciousness to wider natural forces =E2=80=94 subjective and objective, visceral and abstract =E2=80=94 which g= ives Turkish poetry its=C2=A0 stunning originality. Consciousness dies, the eye dis-solves into motion, silhouetted by the dark matter of words." "The Spritual Life of Replicants" As also in rubBEings, in this process time becomes the true subject, the textures, the sounds of its unfolding, the intricate pattern it weaves. As = a result one enters a space where language "almost" not exist, a spot at the periphery of language where language is in the process of being born, in your words, not yet "sentimentalized." Have you seen the Rivette film *La Petite Noisette* (the long, several hour= s version) where one hears=0A the squeaks of the pen on paper as a portrait i= s being painted "in real time" (which the spectator will never see in completion and only in fragments in the process of being "created")? The spectator only sees the "model" who stands nakes during most of the movie; the painting itself is destroyed by the artist. The thoughts of disappearance is. Disappearance was. Thoughts of was is. is. is is sang the bird. in alternating shades. Ciao, Murat On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, David Chirot wrot= e: > Thank you for your posting Setphen--this is indeed a very stunning and > fascinating journal--i sure hope to contribute to a future issue from jus= t > reading many of the pieces inside-- > > Something that has=0A always struck me in the designation of your works a= nd > that of others as "haptic" is that itis not the haptic at al that one is > writing of nor seeing, looking at, but the "touching"--that is the touchi= ng > as in the sentimental, the recording of sentiments, rather than the actua= l > physical touching, which is what the haptic really is. There is even a > formof engineering now devoted to creating "haptic robots," which are abl= e > to discern the differences in touch between various textures which the > robot > is directed to touch and compare--to indicate that it does have a sense o= f > touch developed enough to "feel the difference" between the different > textures. > > I find that in discussing these differences between the actual haptic act > of > the touch and the removed, distanced, as it were "narratives and > sentimentalized" 'touching" response is that one=0A is encountering a kin= d of > gulf, a chasm, between what is considered being literally in touch with t= he > world and one in which an experience in which an after the fact recording > of > a preconceived set of sensations as a form of =E2=80=9Crecord=E2=80=9D do= not as it were > =E2=80=9Ctouch.=E2=80=9D > > Instead, there is a kind of gulf, a chasm, and it often gives me to wonde= r > what it is that one might sense this.=C2=A0 Perhaps a bit further on here= I may > express a few thoughts which have occurred to one through time-- > Mind you, I do not mean this as a kind of put down of the kinds of works > Stephen and other=E2=80=99s do, not at all, and especially not of dear fr= iend > mentor > Bob Cobbing=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Callegorical haptic,=E2=80=9D --what i find= instead is a form of > field > of investigation into the meaning of what it is to touch and "to be > touched" > ("move") in encountering the=0A visual records which are those of=C2=A0 t= he > encounter with the materials. > > What I mean is a difference between actual direct physical touching and t= he > emotionally =E2=80=9Ctouching,=E2=80=9D the recording of =E2=80=9Csensati= ons=E2=80=9D of the mental and > visual variety.=C2=A0 Which is also not the same as the putting down on c= anvas >=C2=A0 of >=C2=A0 =E2=80=9Cmes petites sensations devant la Nature=E2=80=9D as Cezann= e wrote of his works. > (=E2=80=9CMy little sensations before/in facing Nature.=E2=80=9D) > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0A person wrote of my rubBeings that they proved t= hat what Nerval called > the impossibility of the ground itself speaking was made suddenly not > impossible, for in these works it is the ground itself which is speaking, > emerging in its own notations on the page, rather than an imposition of m= y > own views on the nature of the ground or myself either one of us >=0A =E2=80=9Cspeaking." > > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0It is perhaps the difference between direct physi= cal contact with an > "Outside," and the "sentimentalized" (sentiment in the sense of feelings > rather than feeling as in touch--) experience of "the touching" as record= ed > via techniques which present the "image of a feeling" rather than the > direct > imprint of the touching of the materials with the hand. In the > "sentimental" > case, one has a sense of the evacuation of the actual in favor of the > re-construction of a set of detached images which "stand in" for an > experience which occurs "after the fact" in the form of a narrative of an > abstraction. > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 For I do not think that it is an =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=9D = that speaks at al but something > greater made out of the touching of the crayon and hand on one side of th= e > paper and that of the=0A materials on the other side, thus creating what > Burroughs and Gysin called=C2=A0 their works together, =E2=80=9CThe Third= Mind.=E2=80=9D And > that > Third Mind indeed is a ground speaking, an actual =E2=80=9Cmaterial langu= age=E2=80=9D of > texture, color, dirt, noise and song which emrge into a dance choreograph= ed > by the forms, while the hoise which rises into music is that of the singi= ng > of the lines of the matruial as it merges with that of the rubBEing and > so=E2=80=94I > touch the line and it sings-- >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Paul Celan wrote that "Poetry no longer impose itself= , it exposes > itself."=C2=A0 Yet one still finds that in a poetry of the touching, one = is > imposing as it were a sensation from within one=E2=80=99s self onto a mat= erial > which > itself remains distanced, and doubly distanced in that its recording is n= ot > done directly but by the indirect means of the exposures the=0A camera an= d > distanced again by being formed into a series which did not exist as > itself. > > There is also involved here the discussions around what it is to have, to > find, to make an "impersonal poetry." this tends to be done in this cultu= re > via machines as that is the association which is most often made in > conjunction with an image of the "impersonal."=C2=A0 The impersonal may a= lso be > thought of in relation with copying, with "non-originality," yet again th= e > impersonality is simply the donning of another's mask and voice rather th= an > using one's own.=C2=A0 It is simply a substitution of subjectivities whic= h is at > work, and belongs to drama--I find it at least much more to the field of > performance than to that of an impersonality. > Is there then impersonality in the rubBEings?=C2=A0 One hopes that as muc= h as > possible that is not such but more the=0A personality of the materials > themselves which is being expressed via the imprinting of itself done by = as > "primitive=E2=80=99s possible method--that ancient one of the rubBEing. > What one hope is being conveyed is the taphonomic presence of the > objet--that is the thing s as they exist in their current state, which is > one that registers what may ion man ways be the most impersonal of al > presences--that of Time. > > By this I mean that as I work I am conscious of the exact Time which is > existing in and as the work=E2=80=94the directions of the wind, the degre= e of heat > or cold, the humidity or dryness, the materials around one which include > dust and leaf mold, dirt and tar, car exhaust and cigarette smoke, the > passing scents of perfumed young women or the sweating forms of runners a= nd > so on.=C2=A0 At every instant al of these things are in flux, changing, i= n large >=0A ways and small and it is al of these thing which are going into the ma= king > of the piece itself whose surfaces are registering themselves the heat th= e > wetness the movements the air the thicknesses of smoke or scents of blood > or > decay or molds . . . al of the things are the markings of=C2=A0 Time, for= with > each moments things are passing away, changing , their forms being worn > down, decaying crumbling, falling apart, the lettres becoming evermore > blurred or fragmented, the wood become every more rotten or hardened, the > air itself being evermore saturated with pollution=E2=80=94so Time, that = great > impersonal being which is passing, is expressing itself in the very fiber= s > of the pieces, in the most tiny particles which have become ingrained as = it > were in the woven interstices of the=C2=A0 paper, in=C2=A0 the woven grai= ns of the > hands their lines, their broken and=0A chipped bones, their smashed and > tenuously functioning nerve endings=E2=80=94 > > And at the same time all of this disintegration is going on, there=E2=80= =99s the > creation of new forms out of the constellations made in the chaos collaps= es > of every instant passing things further into the distances of time though= t > it is but millisecond away=E2=80=94the past the future and the present wh= ich is a > presence passing=E2=80=94so ephemeral and at the same having a quality of > endurance, > an obdurate eternity as it were a stubborn refusal while at the same time > dancing the night away=E2=80=94 > > Energy=E2=80=94time is in this energy, time is the energy, time and light= as they > affect the materials, the hands, the paper=E2=80=94 > > This gives an enduring sense of life as a form at once of refusal and > acceptance of time=E2=80=94 > > In a sense this is the impersonality which is expressed,=0A this ongoing = time > which is =E2=80=9Coutside oneself=E2=80=99 yet which one is =E2=80=9Cinsi= de of.=E2=80=9D Oneself at the > same > time.=C2=A0 Similarly in the touch I feel that ongoing sense of al the ha= nds > that > have been the blood coursing through mine, Al those hands that have worke= d > with wood and bark and water and stone for three hundred fity years in > North > America, and longer=E2=80=94before the blood was mixed into French and In= dian=E2=80=94so > long the blood in the hands has been working with the things in these > places > that the hand itself is not one=E2=80=99s own=E2=80=94but simply a very a= ctive and > haptically engaged hand of centuries stil finding its way along grains of > wood and the time existing in waters and skies, in the stones and the > passing of shadows of the outstretched limbs of trees playing over the > cracks of the sidewalks which Bob Cobbing and I used to sound out=0A as > notations for performance many years ago > > In that sense al these things touching each other understand the transien= ce > of their encounters, the speed=E2=80=94which means the swiftnesses and sl= ownesses-- > with which al this is passing-and at the same time the deep encounter > within > the moment when the presences meet and make their signs together and pass > on=E2=80=94 > > This does not mean an encounter with an identity but rather the passing > away > of identity into something far greater than itself, something that is tru= ly > outside and whose outside is also inside one, that continual sense of bei= ng > at once present and incredibly distant, from some other time and place an= d > al the while uncannily familiar yet always strangely here. > It is an encounter with that other which is oneself, some otherness > encountering the continual otherness of the=0A things one lives among=E2= =80=94things > as > much known as any person and at the same time just as strange-- > > 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:23:31 -0300 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Regina Pinto Subject: News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, An interesting blog by Judy Malloy: Electronic Literature Authoring Software http://www.well.com/user/jmalloy/elit/elit_software.html Something about my work there: http://www.well.com/user/jmalloy/elit/elit_software.html#regina And my latest work: I Love You - Unforgetable http://arteonline.arq.br/she/ ================= Regina Pinto http://arteonline.arq.br http://pintor.tumblr.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:05:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Wilcox Subject: New Chapbook by Dan Wilcox from Benevolent Bird Press Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Benevolent Bird Press of Delmar, NY has published "boundless abodes of = Albany," a chapbook of poems by Dan Wilcox. Host of the Third Thursday Poetry Night at the Social Justice Center in = Albany, NY, Dan Wilcox has had many poems published in a variety of = small press zines, anthologies, internet sites, chapbooks, & broadsides. = Benevolent Bird Press also recently published a broadside of Wilcox's = poem "My Sather Gate Illumination." You can read Dan's popular Blog at = dwlcx.blogspot.com. =20 Copies of "boundless abodes of Albany" are available from the publisher = by mail at Benevolent Bird Press, P.O. Box 522, Delmar, NY 12054 for = $5.00. Copies are also available from the poet at readings or by mail. = For more information, email the publisher, Alan Casline: = ACASLINE@aol.com, or Dan Wilcox: dwlcx@earthlink.net. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:05:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: 25 questions: question # 1... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Sarah, You're missing the "Let's say" of my reply. The question is open in the broadest sense; pragmatically, it matters - it becomes a function - when grants, jobs, etc. are at stake. I never thought of love or passion as a judgement, any more than illness or death. Of course we won't judge in another century - others will, if there are still others. And judgement is never fixed; it's a question of taste, connoisseurship, etc. I tend to think this gets into the nasty areas of canon and genre - so much gets overlooked by the fetishization of critical filters. Finally, judging in the future, as now, is also a question of an attention economy - none of us have infinite time to read, and a lot of our choices may have a high degree of randomness to them. I just finished Lamartine's Raphael, which I hadn't heard of, but stumbled upon in a used bookstore - it "seemed" interesting. (And within that "seemed" lies pretty much all of cultural studies). - Alan - On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Sarah Sarai wrote: > Alan, > So the question relates to recipients of grant money or tenure? It may, it > does but temporal issues--are we "judging" now or will a new we judge in > another century--fold into the batter. People are functions. Alas or not. > Why not poems. Are poems better than people? Love is a judgment. > Passion too. > > Gerald: I might "judge" a poem I loved now against I poem I love from > the past. This is fun. > > Sarah > > RE: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > >> Question # 1: >> >> Should any current poet be judged against only the very best works of >> the past? >> >> G. E. Schwartz >> > > Beyond the issue of what constitutes genre, canon, and "best," not to > mention "current" or "poet": there is also the question of judgment. > Is a poem written to be judged, any more than an experience is judged? > How does one judge anything that has no possibility either of quantifiable > results or verification procedures (not to mention falsifiability)? > How would you compare a contemporary poet to the poetry of Sumer? > One might think immediately that the habitus of each is fundamentally > unknowable to that of the other. > The same might be true, say, of Swinburne and Sondheim. > What about Sondheim and Damon? Does the synchronic necessarily lend > itself > to judgment and comparison? > On the other hand, let's say that judgment has a pragmatics: of grant, > job, publication. Then judgment also implies an ecology and competition: > writing is now a contestation, which implies as well a curlicue or > diacritical marking beyond the ostensible 'content' of the text, no matter > how defined. In other words: Here is my poem; rate it; act accordingly. > The poem is now a function. > It's a function within a potentially limited space-time event or attention > economy. > There is nothing right or wrong with this approach, either. > Nor of the other approach. > It becomes a matter of taste, connoisseurship: Of who is judging, and > who > is being judged. And, like pretty much anything in poetry/poetics, this is > also something that's basically - i.e. ontologically, epistemologically, > unanswerable, because the question, just like the "Should" in the > question > above, is problematic, self-deconstructing upon closer examination. > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com == ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:30:01 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: new from above/ground press; pfyc#14 new from above/ground press: The Peter F. Yacht Club #14 Edited & compiled & typeset & paid for by rob mclennan March 2010 (from one centre to anothera Toronto issue) $5 with new writing by a host of yacht club regulars & irregulars: Christopher Doda Anita Dolman Amanda Earl Sharon Harris Lainna Lane El Jabi Karen Massey Marcus McCann rob mclennan Steve McOrmond Pearl Pirie Roland Prevost Monty Reid Stan Rogal Fenn Stewart Janice Tokar & Natalie Zina Walschots published in Ottawa by above/ground press send cheques ($5 + $1 for postage) payable to rob mclennan; a/g subscribers receive a complimentary copy write for submission/subscription info, c/o 858 Somerset Street West, main floor, Ottawa ON K1R 6R7, or check out rob_mclennan@hotmail.com or abovegroundpress.blogspot.com http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-from-aboveground-press-peter-f.html -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:05:08 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Boog City presents Cannibal Books and The Briars of North America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please forward ------------------ Boog City presents d.a. levy lives: celebrating the renegade press Cannibal Books (Fayetteville, Ark.) Tues., March 23, 6:00 p.m. sharp, free ACA Galleries 529 W. 20th St., 5th Flr. NYC Event will be hosted by Cannibal Books' editor Matt Henriksen Featuring readings from Kevin Holden Patrick Morrissey Allyssa Wolf and music from The Briars of North America There will be wine, cheese, and crackers, too. Curated and with an introduction by Boog City editor David Kirschenbaum ------ **Cannibal Books http://flesheatingpoems.blogspot.com Cannibal Books publishes hand-sewn literary journals and chapbooks =20 that focus on divergent and emerging poetics. While their products fit =20 into the category of book arts, the focus is entirely on presenting =20 daring work from a broad range of styles. An aesthetic definition =20 cannot define the hunger. Founded in Brooklyn in 2004, Cannibal Books =20 currently nests in Fayetteville, Ark. *Performer Bios* **Kevin Holden http://www.typomag.com/issue12/holden.html Kevin Holden is the author of two poetry chapbooks, Alpine and =20 Identity, and his work has appeared or is forthcoming in Colorado =20 Review, The Cincinnati Review, The Boston Review, The Harvard =20 Advocate, Jubilat, The Liberal, Parcel, and Typo. He recently began =20 doctoral work in comparative literature at Yale where he hopes to =20 finish his blueprints for a combination letter and cider press. **Patrick Morrissey http://www.typomag.com/issue11/morrissey.html Patrick Morrissey?s poems and essays have appeared in Denver =20 Quarterly, Colorado Review, New American Writing, Typo, Harp & Altar, =20 and elsewhere. His chapbook, Transparency, was published by Cannibal =20 Books last year. He lives in New York City. **The Briars of North America http://www.myspace.com/thebriarsofnorthamerica The Briars of North America are a psychedelic-indie-folk band from =20 from Brooklyn. Members of the band have played with The National, =20 Vetiver, Espers, and The Instruments. **Allyssa Wolf http://allyssawolf.blogspot.com Allyssa Wolf is the author of Vaudeville (Seismicity Editions), Sister =20 (Cannibal Books, forthcoming), and the short tract Night Fast. She is =20 the recipient of a Gertrude Stein Award for Innovative Writing, and =20 her work was included in the 2001 Venice Biennale. ---- Directions: C/E to 23rd St., 1/9 to 18th St. Venue is bet. 10th and 11th avenues Next event: Tues. April 27 Lana Turner: A Journal of Poetry and Opinion (Santa Monica, Calif.) http://www.lanaturnerjournal.com/ -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W. 28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://welcometoboogcity.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) To subscribe free to The December Podcast: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=3D343169880 For music from Gilmore boys: http://www.myspace.com/gilmoreboysmusic =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:48:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Margaret Konkol Subject: SUNY Buffalo S M A L L P R E S S in the A R C H I V E Kaplan Harris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 * Please mark your calendars for this coming Wednesday, March 17th @ 2:00 pm for Kaplan Harris's talk, "After Language Poetry New Narrative: Innovation & Its Social Discontents" This talk will be held in The Poetry Collection, 420 Capen @ SUNY Buffalo. This event is free and open to the public. Small Press in the Archive Lecture Series, curated by Margaret Konkol, dedicates itself to the study of poetry outside the traditional literary historical plot. The lectures in this series draw on materials in The Poetry Collection, at SUNY Buffalo in order to explore community/discourse formations, the status of ephemera and the making of genre, the conditions of literary production, transatlantic cross-pollinations in and between specific magazines, the careers of poets, the role of book art, and how the little magazine functions in the making of the avant-garde. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:38:17 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: George Bowering Subject: Re: Younger Italian-American Poets In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed You might check out Ed Prato, who made a stir a few years ago and seems to have faded from the scene. gb On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Emma Bolden wrote: > I am of Italian descent, as is Emari Digiorgio! > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:57 PM, William Allegrezza > wrote: > >> A Italian friend of mine is looking for young or lesser known =20 >> American >> or Latin American poets of Italian descent for an upcoming anthology. >> If you have someone to suggest, please send me an e-mail. >> , >> -------- >> >> Un amigo m=EDo italiano est=E1 buscando a poetas americanos o >> latinoamericanos jovenes o menos conocidos de la ascendencia italiana >> para una antolog=EDa. Si tienes alguien a sugerir, env=EDeme un = correo >> electr=F3nico. >> >> Bill Allegrezza >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check =20 >> guidelines >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > > > --=20 > Emma Bolden > > www.emmabolden.wordpress.com > > Visiting Assistant Professor > Department of English > Georgetown College > 400 East College Street > Georgetown, KY 40324 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check =20 > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/=20 > welcome.html Geo. Bowering Heavy feet. Light heart. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:37:57 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jim Andrews Subject: Net Art and the Fireflies of Eternity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit imagine print without literature, just news and technical documentation, bills of lading, position papers, and so on. imagine the moving picture without art, just as surveillance and video-phone, etc. now imagine the net without net art. to many people, the latter is much easier to imagine than the former two distopias. we have had literature for thousands of years and art has been a part of the moving picture since near its start in the nineteenth century. but net art has only been around since the early to mid 1990's. about 17 years, at this point, this being 2010. and the net is often treated as a spewing information pipeline that has to be managed and filtered for usable practical information often of a consumeristic nature. shopping information, banking info, calendar info, and so on. as an entertainment medium, it's mostly used for videos, online games, news, email communication, and so on. not as a medium in which we seek out the art particular to the net. by 'net art' i do not ,mean video or degraded print, (per se, although they can be part of net art) but art specific to the net. that's what i mean by net art. art that requires an internet connection and lives and breathes through a browser or because of its internet connection, if it's a desktop program. what we lose with there not being as prominent an art of the net as there is of print and moving image is related to what we would lose were there not a prominent art of print or art of the moving image. some might object to that proposition. they might say that the net without net art is no more difficult to imagine than the telephone without telephone art. which is easy to imagine because the telephone hasn't developed prominently as a medium for art. which isn't to say that there haven't been good telephone art projects. but name me five of them. the telephone has developed as a medium primarily for conversations between participating parties. we don't dial up to listen to art, much. or participate in an art project when we are actually on the phone. there's nothing to say we couldn't. and perhaps we have, once or twice. still others will say that the art of the telephone is the art of conversation. which isn't specific to the telephone but is certainly different via telephone, in important ways, than it is face to face. we imagine, then, a secret art of the telephone in which lovers and others really digging each other engage. often not recorded but enjoyed and remembered personally, just the two (or n) of them. a private art without a prominent public face. though telephone conversations and recordings play crucial parts, sometimes, in works of art for other media such as movies, drama, and music. telephone has not developed a prominent public art because it is so strong concerning private conversations. the possibilities for dial-up telephone art or interactive telephone art are completely overshadowed by the way we typically use the telephone, which is not a public art use or even an artistic use of any kind, for the most part. we have trouble with fiction and pretend, often, on the telephone. the stakes are different than in reading a book or watching art because of the element of trust and personal disclosure. to say nothing of fraud, which we also are quite familiar with from the telephone. the net is quite different from telephone, of course. it is not overwhelmed, currently, by live conversation. we have had many of them, over the net but it is by no means all we do over the net. the types of activities we engage in include writing, viewing visual information, listening to auditory information, responding to visual, sonic and written information, and a variety of media, interactive or not. the net subsumes several media at once. all broadcast media. and some broadcast that has not and cannot be broadcast otherwise. that'd be the net art and other net-specific broadcasts. the net also subsumes private broadcasting, narrowcasting. the telephone-even all forms of radio-even the CB, eventually-can be net-based. the network is the frequency or set of frequencies. and the frequency or frequencies can be channeled around the world. the net also subsumes certain dimensions of print culture. publications have a net component or are entirely net-based. the range is quite broad. the web site may simply be a desolate info booth, devoid of interest, or it may rock the universe in every way. it depends on the involvement in the net the publication has. artistically, financially, as a distribution mechanism and as a serious medium in its own right concerning content, the presentation of content, the definition of content, the media of it, the permanence of it, and so on. is it meant as entertainment or reference information or queriable service and/or store or news channel or personal blog or as a post within a larger network of sites one communicates with? also, individuals publish their work on the net. sometimes on their own sites, sometimes elsewhere. on journals, the sites of other individuals, into huge youtubish databases, and so on. the net is both about publication and communication. broadcasting and interaction. we are struggling to understand how this changes the nature of publication itself. and the nature of communication itself. one of the great powers of the internet is it's ability to carry a broad range of media and modes simultaneously or individually. by 'mode', i mean its type of interactivities or lack thereof. by 'media' i mean sound, visuals, text, and moving images. it should be clear by now that the internet is going to play an increasingly important role in broadcast, narrowcast and communication media. and in knowledge storage and dissemination. and much else. consequently, an art of the net poetentially becomes too broad and diffuse a notion. the notion of 'digital art' is so vast it includes scans of photos of one's cat posted to flickr. there can be no art form called 'digital art' because 'digital art' is just any art that may even simply have been digitized from analog and shoveled unreflectively to the realm of bits and bytes. is 'net art', similarly, so broad as to not be a particular art form in itself? well, no, it's not. different people look at it in different ways. my way is to specify an art in which the internet connection is crucial. whether for communication or the querying of databases (and the subsequent retrieval of dynamic information), or for other decisions relayed or processed meaningfully via the net. the art of the net is one of the most important envisionings of the possibilities the net holds concerning broadcast and communications media, publication, and the synthesis of media, arts, communication, technology, and science. the art of the net, ideally, is where we go to get and understand our most intense and fully realized visions of these possibilities-even when the art doesn't seem to be about these things at all, sometimes. but of course we do not need to scratch too deeply to understand that every painting is, in some sense, about painting, every media work is about its medium, in some sense, to the degree that it uses its media/um in media-specific ways. in its 'rhetoric of media', then. and, more deeply yet, in its philosophy of media. stated or not. present or implied or vacuous, a vacuum filled by the activity of the media/um all over it like water over the swimmer. net art encapsulates not only our deepest visions of the possibilities for meaningful change via or partly because of the internet, but our deepest visions concerning who and what we become via the existence of the net and electronic networks more broadly. anything that involves important changes in who and what we are and how we live and enjoy life and learn and communicate and view and publish work is important for us to understand and explore with passion-if for no other reason, then because to understand these helps us know who and what we are becoming and maybe even already are. and where we are going. and just what it means to be alive in this particular age. that is an important part of what we treasure about the art of the past. the art of the past is one of our best ways of understanding life in the past. we wonder if net art will enjoy that sort of status in the future because of the issues of obsolescence of technology. will net art last long enough to have that sort of use to futurity? or will it be continually of the moment? firefly media of the moment that is burned quickly in the fire of techno-time. well, the jury is still out. certainly much, most, almost all will perish and does so, so far, about every decade as browser technology changes and networks expand into other, non-browser technologies and some protocols fall out of use, eclipsed by brighter suns. but some net art persists. it takes special engineering, often, a savvy knowledge of what's a good bet to work with and what isn't. the serious work will survive for some time. long enough to have that sort of use to futurity. we're just not sure how far that futurity extends. but, you know, it's never the thing beyond the grave that we want in this life. except if it be peace or happiness or a like reward. and it is our joy to find these in this life as we proceed. which is a way of saying that whether net art now has a use to futurity later is not the only criterion to measure its importance now. in fact, it's a terrible criterion because we don't know the outcome now. the more important issue is what it does for us now. and what it does for us now is help us understand the wired life now and where it is going and how that changes us. and that's important to understand who we are. which implies that if net art fails as an art form then we lack artistic ways to understand who and what we are via the introduction of the internet into our worlds. this, in turn, would imply a sort of telephone-like usage of the media/um of the net, a failure of imagination in the presence of overwhelming homogenization of discourse. or a fundamental unfitness of net worlds to provide an environment that can support art. permanence/impermanence of media is a consideration. but so is monetary economy. let's not forget that the monetary infrastructures that support art as business are crucial to non-digital and digital art alike. the economies of attention and valorization have strong ties to the monetary economies of print, visual art, music, and so forth. the circles of 'high art' typically have ties to the economic opportunities in the art. there is a sense in which art has nothing to do with art but with marketing, public relations, corporate or institutional sponsorship, friend networks, and other such factors which-more than the quality of the art itself-determine the standing of the art in society. net art has not been particularly prominent in ecommerce. quite the contrary. the idea is basically do what you love and the rest will follow. it doesn't necessarily follow, of course, with any financial reward. this is a hurdle net art has to navigate by hook or by crook. currently it is a very tough proposition. net art has been a follower in this regard. the artists have not really developed good economic models. or have not followed through on them, when they have been imagined. i remember reading what a new york artist wrote about mail art. he said it was dead and wasn't of much account as art. isn't this sort of foolish attitude simply a consequence of mail art remaining at a distance from the galleries and a significant monetary economy? does his attitude have anything to do with the art itself or familiarity with it? not likely. the excitement people feel about art works or an art itself is often not about the art itself but the value of the art as commodity valorized, ie, marketed, in appealing ways. we like to think of art as the house of what really matters in life and relationships and thought and the meaning of life and the creation of beauty, truth, and justice. and it is, in important ways. but it is very much a house in this world, with all the troubles of other houses. will net art continue to exist as mail art does? basically outside the institutions? i think it's fundamentally a question of whether it develops a significant monetary economy. it's not fundamentally a question of the quality of the art itself. and this seems true to me also of mail art. another impediment to net art is the depth of art experience it can support. what is the emotionally deepest flash work you've experienced? did it change your life? art needs to be capable of being taken as seriously as revelation. revelation and transformation are key aspects to our most important art experiences. firefly media might do it, but not likely. what is at issue here is the ability of net art to really help us understand who and where we are, as opposed to merely our being given caricatures and cartoons of existence-though they can be much more meaningful than we usually admit. but, still, it's possible for media to lose or never find its way to our deepest experience. net art seeks its way to our deepest experience via the wire to inner worlds, outer worlds, and their interpenetration. net art must succeed for the internet to be as significant a human venture as print or cinema. for if it fails, that means we cannot really feel it and think in it in the ways we associate with art. and these are important to the ways we understand ourselves and the world, and come to be articulate and expressive and formulate what worlds we want to make now and for the future. the failure of net art would be a massive failure of imagination that would give unto the forces of dullness an unbearable lightness of media, too complete a capacity for forgetting, and a medium without an inner world. net art seeks the human in the post-human, the post in the human, the human in the post, and the post-human in the post-human. to know what it is to be human now, and wired. no net art means the wired is tired. a tired wired is wired working for the man, is corporate complete, is shop till long after you have dropped, is dronification wired to the grind of slaves, the energy of slaves, the no poetry zone, no imagination but in products, no ideas but in products, the triumph of consumerism and perfectly thoughtless media. accordingly, net art is important to the well-being and futurity of any possible wired world, and to our understanding of our current situation and capacities, even, as fireflies of eternity. so we see what we lose with there not being as prominent an art of the net as there is of print and moving image is related to what we would lose were there not a prominent art of print or art of the moving image. those distopian possibilities seem very remote, as possibilities, because the media have such rich histories attached to them that we see the very existence of print and moving image implying the growth of the artistic cultures that have grown up with the media of print and the moving image, respectively. will we have a similar sense of the richness of history of net art in a hundred years time? i think it will be a history fraught with more changes in the technology than we associate with the history of print or the moving image. so it will be more fragmented a history, consequently. the net art media species, as it were, will evolve and change and mutate in ways we associate with hyperspaces. but it will have known histories, nonetheless, contentious and mysterious, almost, as the present, for anyone who looks closely into the fire at the contradictions of even the moment of art. ja http://netpoetic.com/2010/03/net-art-and-the-fireflies-of-eternity ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:31:53 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sam Ladkin Subject: Reading in UCC (Cork) by Ian Patterson and Jenny Diski MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All, Delighted to announce the following. All are very much welcome. Best, Sam UCC English Literature Society Presents Readings by JENNY DISKI & IAN PATTERSON Thursday, March 25th 6.30 pm Council Room North Wing UCC Main Campus Map: http://www.ucc.ie/en/conferencing/useful-links/map/Fullimage,56677,en.JPG FREE ENTRY ALL ARE WELCOME The UCC English Literature Society is delighted to welcome Ian Patterson and Jenny Diski to Cork. JENNY DISKI was born in London in 1947. She was educated at University College, London, and worked as a teacher during the 1970s and early 1980s. She is a regular contributor to The Observer and the London Review of Books. Her first novel, Nothing Natural, the story of a single parent locked in an abusive relationship, was published in 1986 (reissued 2003). Subsequent novels include Rainforest (1987), in which a female anthropologist is shocked by her discoveries about human nature; Then Again (1990), a complex narrative exploring the life of a persecuted Jewish girl living in fourteenth-century Poland; Happily Ever After (1991), the story of the relationship between an eccentric old woman and her landlord, a middle-aged alcoholic; and The Dream Mistress (1996), set in contemporary London, about three women whose stories are loosely connected: Mimi, Leah - the mother who abandoned her -and Bella, a tramp who Mimi saves at the beginning of the novel. The Vanishing Princess (1995) is a collection of short stories. She published a volume of autobiography, Skating to Antarctica, in 1997, which was shortlisted for the Jewish Quarterly Literary Prize for Non-Fiction, and a book of essays, Don't, in 1998. Jenny Diski is also the author of two television plays, A Fair and Easy Passage, written for Channel 4 television, and The Ultimate Object of Desire. Stranger on a Train: Daydreaming and Smoking around America with Interruptions (2002), a travelogue narrating a railway journey around the United States, is the winner of the 2003 Thomas Cook Travel Book Award. A View from the Bed (2003) is a compendium of essays and literary reviews. Her novel, Only Human: A Comedy (2000), reworks the biblical story of Abraham and Sarah told in Genesis, chapters 11 to 22, and After These Things (2004) continues the story, centring on the relationship between Abraham's son Isaac and Isaac's son Jacob. Her non-fiction book, On Trying to Keep Still, was published in 2006. Jenny Diski lives in Cambridge. Her recent books include Apology for the Woman Working (2008) and The Sixties (2009) IAN PATTERSON Ian Patterson is a critic, poet, translator and academic. He was born in 1948 and grew up in Cheshire and London. After a variety of jobs, he now teaches English at Queens' College, University of Cambridge. He has published numerous translations, most recently Finding Time Again, the final volume of Proust's In Search of Lost Time from Penguin. He is a scholar of modernism and twentieth-century literature, especially in avant-garde traditions. His most recent book is The Glass Bell: http://www.barquepress.com/glassbell.html A selection of his poetry has been published as Time to Get Here: Selected Poems 1969-2002 (Salt Publishing): http://www.saltpublishing.com/books/smp/1876857927.htm Information about Ian's book Guernica and Total War can be found here: http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/PATGUE.html ------------------------------------------------------- ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:44:57 -0700 Reply-To: nathanso@email.arizona.edu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tenney Nathanson Organization: University of Arizona Subject: new Chax book; upcoming readings this week in Vancouver, Seattle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just in case anyone can make it, or can pass the word along: I'll be reading this week in Vancouver (University of British Columbia and Simon Fraser University), and in Seattle (Pilot Books), mostly from my just-released Chax Press book, Ghost Snow Falls through the Void (Globalization). A thousand bows to Chax Press and Charles Alexander, for doing the book AND for working some miracles at the Tucson Festival of Books (Charles Bernstein, Alice Notley, Anne Waldman, Mei-Mei Berssenbrugge all conjured up for a fabulous few days). Reading details are at http://www.u.arizona.edu/~nathanso/tn/poetry.html Tenney ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:30:39 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: readings etc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thursday March 18th ESP Records In-Store Concert Series 990 Bedford Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11205 - G train to Bedford/Nostrand $ Free $ 6-8pm Opening celebration w/ free wine! 8pm Steve Dalachinsky - words 8:30pm Sabir Mateen / Roy Campbell Jr. Duo Sabir Mateen - saxophones Roy Campbell Jr. - trumpets _________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ UDP AT PS1 EVENTS EACH SUNDAY IN MARCH Artbook @ PS1/MoMA 22-25 Jackson Ave, Long Island City, NY Sunday, March 14, 4pm Yelena Gluzman, Rachel Levitsky, Ben Luzzatto, and Dan Machlin Sunday, March 21, 4pm Poetry performances by UDP authors Filip Marinovich, Elizabeth Reddin, and Garrett Kalleberg. Sunday, March 28, 4 pm A wine reception with performances and readings by Peter Gizzi and Steve Dalachinsky; a bilingual performance of Carlos Oquendo de Amat's classic 5 Meters of Poems by the translators Alejandro de Acosta and Joshua Beckman; and a performance of Vanessa Place and Rob Fitterman's new work "NO IDEA." The readings will be preceded by a screening (at 3:30) of Joel Schlemowitz's award-winning documentary, "Loudmouth Collective / Ugly Duckling Presse / Anti-Reading." _________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________ March 28, 8pm The Stone (NW corner of Avenue C and East 2nd St., F train to 2nd Ave.) Admission $10, Students age 14-19 admitted at half price. Children 12 and under free. LOCAL LINGO Jason Kao Hwang (composer, violin/viola) Sang Won Park (kayagum, ajeng, voice) Thomas Buckner (voice) William Parker (string bass) Joe McPhee (tenor sax, pocket trumpet) On Sunday, March 28, starting at 8pm, Local Lingo will premiere composer Jason Kao Hwang’s suite, “Voices of Our Own,” featuring the poetry of Lester Afflick, Fay Chiang, Steve Dalachinsky, Patricia Spears Jones and Yuko Otomo. The music will employ notation and improvisation, with the inflection of jazz, opera and world music vibrant in the Local Lingo of sound. Poetry books and the Local Lingo CD will be on sale. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:53:01 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nana Zabic Subject: Re: Younger Italian-American Poets In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second Emma Bolden's suggestion to include Emma Bolden in the anthology! Snezana On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Emma Bolden wrote: > I am of Italian descent, as is Emari Digiorgio! > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:57 PM, William Allegrezza > wrote: > >> A Italian friend of mine is looking for young or lesser known American >> or Latin American poets of Italian descent for an upcoming anthology. >> If you have someone to suggest, please send me an e-mail. >> , >> -------- >> >> Un amigo m=EDo italiano est=E1 buscando a poetas americanos o >> latinoamericanos jovenes o menos conocidos de la ascendencia italiana >> para una antolog=EDa. Si tienes alguien a sugerir, env=EDeme un correo >> electr=F3nico. >> >> Bill Allegrezza >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guideli= nes >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > > > -- > Emma Bolden > > www.emmabolden.wordpress.com > > Visiting Assistant Professor > Department of English > Georgetown College > 400 East College Street > Georgetown, KY 40324 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:38:57 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Margaret Carson Subject: Margaret Randall in Conversation at the GC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain Date: Monday, March 22, 2010 Time: 6:30pm=20 Location: The Graduate Center, The City University of New York, 365 Fifth= Avenue, New=20 York Skylight Room (Rm. 9100) New Visions, New Activism, New American Poetry: Margaret Randall in Conve= rsation The poet, political activist and publisher Margaret Randall helped shift = the frame of New=20 American Poetry beyond the US with her own political activism and by publ= ishing El Corno=20 Emplumado / The Plumed Horn (1962-1969), a forum for innovative writing f= rom all parts of=20 the Americas featuring the work of major poets from the United States, Ca= nada and Latin=20 America in English, Spanish and Portuguese. Join her and the Graduate Cen= ter=92s Ammiel=20 Alcalay, Professor of English and Comparative Literature in a conversatio= n about her work=20 and El Corno Emplumado, then on the cutting edge of independent publishin= g and now an=20 archival treasure. =20 Co-sponsored by the Ph.D. Program in Hispanic and Luso-Brazilian Literatu= res and=20 Languages and the Doctoral Students Council =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:03:23 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: This Friday, March 19 @ 7 p.m. with Jillian Brall, R. Erica Doyle, Adam Fieled, Matt Rotando, Metta Sama & Paige Taggart! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Come one, come all to two spect= Dear listeners, poets & sake-drinkers,=0A=0ACome one, come all to two spect= acular Friday-in-March readings:=0A=0Athis Friday, March 19, with Jillian B= rall, R. Erica Doyle, Adam=0AFieled, Matt Rotando, Metta Sama & Paige Tagga= rt! &=0A=0Anext Friday, March 26, with Jessica Bozek, Kate Braid, Melissa = Broder,=0AJackie Clark, Cate Marvin & Brett Eugene Ralph!=0A=0ACould it get= any better? Hardly. So come. We'll be there. So will they=0A(details below= ). You too!=0A=0ALove, Amy & Ana=0Awww.stainofpoetry.com=0A=0A=0AMarch 19, = Friday -- 7 p.m. ~ Jillian Brall, R. Erica Doyle, Adam Fieled, Matt=0ARota= ndo, Metta Sama & Paige Taggart!=0A=0A @ Goodbye Blue Monday =E2=80=93 Bush= wick, Brooklyn=0A=0Aat=0A=0AGoodbye Blue Monday=0A1087 Broadway=0A(corner o= f Dodworth St)=0ABrooklyn, NY 11221-3013=0A(718) 453-6343=0A=0AJ M Z trains= to Myrtle Ave=0Aor J train to Kosciusko St=0A=0Awith=0A=0AJillian Brall re= ceived both her BA in Creative Writing in 2004 and her=0AMFA in Poetry in 2= 009 from The New School, in New York, NY. She is a=0ANYC certified Teaching= Artist, currently living in the Bushwick area=0Aof Brooklyn. She recently = published a book of poems, Wet Information,=0Aunder ZoeWo Press. She is als= o a saxophonist and visual artist,=0Afocusing on mixed media collage and pa= inting. Several of her collages=0Acan be seen in the current issue of Pax A= mericana, as well as featured=0Aon The Best American Poetry Blog, and have = been used as cover art for=0Aseveral electronic poetry books published by S= cantily Clad Press.=0APrints of her collages, as well as copies of her book= , Wet=0AInformation, are available for purchase at=0Ahttp://www.zoewopress.= etsy.com.=0A=0A~=0A=0AR. Erica Doyle was born in Brooklyn to Trinidadian im= migrant parents,=0Aand has lived in Washington, DC, Farmington, Connecticut= and La Marsa,=0ATunisia. Her work has appeared in Best American Poetry, Ou= r Caribbean:=0AA Gathering of Lesbian and Gay Writing from the Antilles, Ca= llaloo,=0APloughshares, Best Black Women=E2=80=99s Erotica, Bum Rush the Pa= ge, and Ms.=0AMagazine. She has received grants and awards from the Hurston= /Wright=0AFoundation, the Astraea Lesbian Writers Fund, and she was a New Y= ork=0AFoundation for the Arts Poetry Fellow. She is also a fellow of Cave= =0ACanem: A Workshop and Retreat for Black Writers and her manuscript,=0Apr= oxy, was a finalist for the 2007 Cave Cavem Poetry Prize, selected=0Aby Cla= udia Rankine. She received her MFA in Poetry from the New=0ASchool, and she= lives in New York City, where she is at work on a=0Anovel, Fortune. Erica = teaches in the NYC public schools and is the=0Afacilitator of Tongues Afire= : A Creative Writing Workshop for queer=0Awomen and trans and gender non-co= nforming people of color.=0A=0A~=0A=0AAdam Fieled is a poet based in Philad= elphia. He has released three=0Aprint books: =E2=80=9COpera Bufa=E2=80=9D (= Otoliths, 2007), =E2=80=9CWhen You Bit=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D (Otoliths,=0A2008)= , and =E2=80=9CChimes=E2=80=9D (Blazevox, 2009), as well as numerous chaps,= =0Ae-chaps, and e-books, including =E2=80=9CPosit=E2=80=9D (Dusie Press, 20= 07) and =E2=80=9CThe=0AWhite Album=E2=80=9D (ungovernable press, 2009). He = has work in journals like=0ATears in the Fence, Great Works, The Argotist, = Upstairs at Duroc,=0AJacket, and in the &Now Anthology from Lake Forest Col= lege Press. A=0Amagna cum laude graduate of the University of Pennsylvania,= he also=0Aholds an MFA from New England College and an MA from Temple=0AUn= iversity, where he is completing his PhD.=0A=0A~=0A=0AMatt Rotando is a ste= ak-man, a cyclist, and a skeet-shooter. He=0Aprefers swimming to the harpsi= chord, mangoes to mangosteen, and=0Ajackfruit above all fruits but the avoc= ado. These days he can often be=0Afound skulking about the edges of Oyster = Bay, Long Island, looking for=0Asomething crunchy. Poems are for whying and= sometimes for why-notting,=0Abut he likes those poems best that get him th= e odd fake cigarette or=0Atemporary tattoo. His book is The Comeback=E2=80= =99s Exoskeleton and he has=0Apoems in this month=E2=80=99s Shampoo. His fa= vorite color is green and silver.=0AThe word is a lot weaker than a slap on= the back of the head, except=0Awhen it isn=E2=80=99t. The inside of words = is a spacey place for looking out.=0AThat=E2=80=99s grandiloquence! And in = the shade of a Bonzai tree, or just a=0Arented white wall, his shoes await = The Great Trans-American Spin.=0A=0A~=0A=0AMetta Sama says: I am a poet, pr= ofessor, activist, painter, collage=0Aartist, fiction and essay writer. My = poetry, currently, looks at=0Ainstabilities in writings by persons subjecte= d to various forms of=0Aoppression. I am interested in the joy of making an= d creating art and=0Astories and images that will, eventually, disintegrate= , return to the=0Asource it came from. I question what it means to make tho= ughts, ideas,=0A& feelings stable, to devote oneself to immortality. My wor= k has=0Aappeared in Proud Flesh Journal, The Drunken Boat, Blackbird, Pater= son=0ALiterary Review, Yellow Medicine Review, Crab Orchard, and other=0Ajo= urnals, & I am the author of one published collection of poems.=0A=0A~=0A= =0APaige Taggart lives in Brooklyn. Her chapbook Polaroid Parade is=0Aforth= coming with Greying Ghost Press. She has an e-chapbook, Won=E2=80=99t Be=0A= A Girl with Scantily Clad Press. She is a recipient of the 2009 NYFA=0Afell= owship. Recent or forthcoming work can be found at No Tell Motel,=0AGlitter= pony, Raleigh Quarterly, Sink Review, RealPoetik, pax=0Aamericana, We Are S= o Happy To Know Something. Peruse her blog:=0Ahttp://mactaggartjewelry.blog= spot.com.=0A=0A&=0A=0AMarch 26, Friday ~ Jessica Bozek, Kate Braid, Melissa= Broder, Jackie=0AClark, Cate Marvin & Brett Eugene Ralph!=0A=0AMarch 26 @ = 7 p.m. Goodbye Blue Monday =E2=80=93 Bushwick, Brooklyn=0A=0Awith=0A=0AJess= ica Bozek is the author of The Bodyfeel Lexicon (Switchback Books)=0Aand se= veral chapbooks. Recent poems appear in Action, Yes, Artifice,=0AFairy Tale= Review, P-QUEUE, and Womb. Jessica runs Small Animal=0AProject (smallanima= lproject.com), a reading series and web-text=0Aexperiment based in Cambridg= e, MA.=0A=0A~=0A=0AKate Braid is a poet, essayist, biographer, and teacher.= Braid=E2=80=99s first=0Abook, Covering Rough Ground, was about her experie= nce as a carpenter,=0Aand won the Pat Lowther Award for best book of poems = by a Canadian=0Awoman. She is also the author of To This Cedar Fountain, In= ward to the=0ABones: Georgia O=E2=80=99Keefe=E2=80=99s Journey with Emily C= arr, A Well-Mannered=0AStorm: The Glenn Gould Poems, and a co-editor, Sandy= Shreve, of In=0AFine Form, the first anthology of Canadian form poetry. A = second book=0Aof poems about her experiences in construction, Turning Left = to the=0ALadies, was published by Palimpsest in June 2009. She has also=0A= written three books of non-fiction and is currently working on a=0Amemoir o= f her fifteen years as a carpenter.=0A=0A~=0A=0AMelissa Broder is the autho= r of WHEN YOU SAY ONE THING BUT MEAN YOUR=0AMOTHER (Ampersand Books, Februa= ry 2010). She is the curator of the=0APolestar Poetry Series and the Chief = Editor of La Petite Zine. Broder=0Areceived her BA from Tufts University an= d is currently in the MFA=0Aprogram at CCNY. She is the winner of the Jerom= e Lowell Dejur Award=0Aand the Stark Prize for Poetry. By day, she works as= a literary=0Apublicist. Her poems have appeared in many journals, includin= g: Opium,=0AShampoo, Conte and The Del Sol Review.=0A=0A~=0A=0AJackie Clark= is currently co-editor-in-chief for LIT magazine. She=0Aalso curates Poets= off Poetry at coldfrontmag.com, where poets write=0Aabout music. Her chap= book Office Work is forthcoming from Greying=0AGhost Press. She lives in J= ersey City.=0A=0A~=0A=0ACate Marvin=E2=80=99s first book, World=E2=80=99s T= allest Disaster, was chosen by=0ARobert Pinksy for the 2000 Kathryn A. Mort= on Prize and published by=0ASarabande Books in 2001. In 2002, she received = the Kate Tufts=0ADiscovery Prize. Her poems have appeared in The New Englan= d Review,=0APoetry, The Kenyon Review, Fence, The Paris Review, The Cincinn= ati=0AReview, Slate, Verse, Boston Review, and Ninth Letter. She is=0Aco-ed= itor with poet Michael Dumanis of the anthology Legitimate=0ADangers: Ameri= can Poets of the New Century (Sarabande Books, 2006).=0AHer second book of = poems, Fragment of the Head of a Queen, was=0Apublished by Sarabande in Aug= ust 2007. A recent Whiting Award=0Arecipient and 2007 NYFA Gregory Millard = Fellow, she teaches poetry=0Awriting in Lesley University=E2=80=99s Low-Res= idency M.F.A. Program and is an=0Aassociate professor in creative writing a= t the College of Staten=0AIsland, City University of New York.=0A=0A~=0A=0A= Brett Eugene Ralph spent the better part of his youth in Louisville,=0AKent= ucky, playing football and singing in punk rock bands. His work=0Ahas appe= ared in journals such as Conduit, Mudfish, Willow Springs, and=0AThe Americ= an Poetry Review; it has been anthologized in The=0AMcSweeney=E2=80=99s Boo= k of Poets Picking Poets and The Stiffest of the=0ACorpse: An Exquisite Cor= pse Reader. His first full-length collection,=0ABlack Sabbatical, was publi= shed by Sarabande Books in 2009. Brett has=0Ataught at the University of M= assachusetts, Missouri State University,=0Aand the Central Institute of Bud= dhist Studies in the Himalayas of=0Anorthern India. Currently, he lives in= Empire, Kentucky, and teaches=0Aat Hopkinsville Community College. His co= untry rock ensemble, Brett=0AEugene Ralph=E2=80=99s Kentucky Chrome Revue, = can be heard in seedy dives=0Athroughout the South.=0A=0Aat=0A=0AGoodbye Bl= ue Monday=0A1087 Broadway=0A(corner of Dodworth St)=0ABrooklyn, NY 11221-30= 13=0A(718) 453-6343=0A=0AJ M Z trains to Myrtle Ave=0Aor J train to Koscius= ko St=0A=0A~=0A=0AHosted by Amy King and Ana Bo=C5=BEi=C4=8Devi=C4=87=0A=0A= =0A=0A--=0AHTML GIANT -- You might like me too:=0A=0Ahttp://htmlgiant.com/a= uthor-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:41:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mairead Byrne Subject: Re: Younger Italian-American Poets In-Reply-To: <2fa274de1003170853g1fa58e88qb9e274ece4b930e4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter Covino, teaching at the University of Rhode Island, born in Italy. Mair=E9ad On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Nana Zabic wrote: > I second Emma Bolden's suggestion to include Emma Bolden in the anthology= ! > > Snezana > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Emma Bolden > wrote: > > I am of Italian descent, as is Emari Digiorgio! > > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:57 PM, William Allegrezza > > wrote: > > > >> A Italian friend of mine is looking for young or lesser known American > >> or Latin American poets of Italian descent for an upcoming anthology. > >> If you have someone to suggest, please send me an e-mail. > >> , > >> -------- > >> > >> Un amigo m=EDo italiano est=E1 buscando a poetas americanos o > >> latinoamericanos jovenes o menos conocidos de la ascendencia italiana > >> para una antolog=EDa. Si tienes alguien a sugerir, env=EDeme un correo > >> electr=F3nico. > >> > >> Bill Allegrezza > >> > >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines > >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Emma Bolden > > > > www.emmabolden.wordpress.com > > > > Visiting Assistant Professor > > Department of English > > Georgetown College > > 400 East College Street > > Georgetown, KY 40324 > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:52:19 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Michael Heller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shearsman Books Michael Heller: Beckmann Variations and other poems Published 15 March 2010 Paperback, 80pp, 8.5x5.5ins, =A38.95 / $15 ISBN 9781848610873 Ekphrasis, that ancient mode found in Homer's=20 description of Achilles's shield or Keats'=20 Grecian Urn, is here transformed in Michael=20 Heller's meditations in poetry and prose on work=20 by the painter Max Beckmann. Heller navigates,=20 sometimes with Yeats as his Virgil, through a=20 gallery of Beckmann's pictures, seeing them as=20 uniquely bringing home contemporary=20 civilization's catastrophic impulses ("as if days=20 were not for sanity"), impulses at once horrific=20 and unsettling yet strangely beautiful and restorative. Comments on Michael Heller=92s recent work: =93At once grave and uplifting, Heller=92s poems are=20 serene meditations on time, decay, and loss that=20 recover from the ruin a repletion that is also a=20 recognition of our necessary incompleteness=20 before the world and language.=94=ADPatrick Pritchett in Jacket Magazine =93In a poetic generation that has frequently=20 settled for small answers, his work insists upon=20 the largest questions.=94=ADRobert Zaller in Rain Taxi =93He accepts that his poetry is a fold in a great=20 conversation of commentary, that linguistic=20 =93meeting place=94 in which he posits his faith. And=20 it is in this belief, inspiring his practice,=20 that Heller=92s poetry paradoxically achieves its=20 magisterial power.=94=ADNorman Finkelstein on The Big Jewish Blog Michael Heller is a poet, essayist and=20 critic. His most recent books are Eschaton, a=20 collection of poems (Talisman, 2009), Speaking=20 The Estranged: Essays on the Work of George Oppen=20 (Salt 2009), and Two Novellas: Marble Snows & The=20 Study (ahadadabooks, 2009). He is the recipient=20 of many honors and grants including the=20 DiCastagnola Prize of the Poetry Society of=20 America, the National Endowment for the=20 Humanities, the New York Foundation for the Arts and the Fund for Poetry. To order: Please support your local bookshop by ordering=20 Shearsman titles from them. If you prefer to=20 order online, use the following links: Order=20 from the Shearsman online store,=20 Order=20 from The Book Depository (UK),=20 Order=20 from amazon.co.uk,=20 Order=20 from The Book Depository (USA), Order from Barnes=20 and Noble.com,=20 Order=20 from amazon.com,=20 Order=20 from Small Press Distribution (USA) UK trade orders via Bertrams Books or Gardners Books. US trade orders via Ingrams or Baker & Taylor. Eschaton (new poems) Talisman House Publishers=20 (2009) available at SPD, Greenfield Distribution=20 (www.gfibooks.com), www. amazon.com and good=20 bookstores. Two Novellas: Marble Snows & The=20 Study (ahadada press 2009) available from SPD,=20 amazon.com and from ahadadpress at=20 http://www.ahadadabooks.com/content/view/162/41/.=20 Speaking The Estranged: Essays on the Work of=20 George Oppen (2008); Uncertain Poetries: Essays=20 on Poets, Poetry and Poetics (2005) and Exigent=20 Futures: New and Selected Poems (2003) available=20 at www.saltpublishing.com, amazon.com and good=20 bookstores. Survey of work at=20 http://www.thing.net/~grist/ld/heller.htm=20 Collaborations with the composer Ellen Fishman=20 Johnson at=20 http://www.efjcomposer.com/EFJ/Collaborations.html=20 Recordings at http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Heller.html =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:57:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Daniel Remein, Editor" Subject: New from WHISKEY & FOX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The New issue of Whiskey & Fox is out! Everyone check it out at http://whiskeyandfox.org Vol 4. No. 1, 'doing politics with animals,' includes: A Preface from the editors, and work (in order of appearance) from Robin Clarke, Jeff T. Johnson, Ross Gay, Gary Lehmann, Claire Donato, Rebecca Mertz, Nicola Masciandaro, Eileen A. Joy, Chris Miller, and Afterwords from Karl Steel. contact at editors [at] whiskeyandfox [dot] org. Also, perfect-bound books are coming soon as an additional format for the journal. A new call for work will go out soon as well. Very Best Daniel C. Remein and the rest of the Editors ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:04:39 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: TONIGHT @ 7 p.m. in the gorgeous just-about-summer air, come to Goodbye Blue Monday, get some drink and poetry in your ear! Pour gently... Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Come one, come all to two spect= Dear listeners, poets & sake-drinkers,=0A=0ACome one, come all to two spect= acular Friday-in-March readings:=0A=0ATONIGHT -- Friday, March 19, with Jil= lian Brall, R. Erica Doyle, Adam=0AFieled, Matt Rotando, Metta Sama & Paige= Taggart! &=0A=0Anext Friday, March 26, with Jessica Bozek, Kate Braid, Me= lissa Broder,=0AJackie Clark, Cate Marvin & Brett Eugene Ralph!=0A=0ACould = it get any better? Hardly. So come. We'll be there. So will they=0A(details= below). You too!=0A=0ALove, Amy & Ana=0Awww.stainofpoetry.com=0A=0A=0AMarc= h 19, Friday -- 7 p.m. ~ Jillian Brall, R. Erica Doyle, Adam Fieled, Matt= =0ARotando, Metta Sama & Paige Taggart!=0A=0A @ Goodbye Blue Monday =E2=80= =93 Bushwick, Brooklyn=0A=0Aat=0A=0AGoodbye Blue Monday=0A1087 Broadway=0A(= corner of Dodworth St)=0ABrooklyn, NY 11221-3013=0A(718) 453-6343=0A=0AJ M = Z trains to Myrtle Ave=0Aor J train to Kosciusko St=0A=0Awith=0A=0AJillian = Brall received both her BA in Creative Writing in 2004 and her=0AMFA in Poe= try in 2009 from The New School, in New York, NY. She is a=0ANYC certified = Teaching Artist, currently living in the Bushwick area=0Aof Brooklyn. She r= ecently published a book of poems, Wet Information,=0Aunder ZoeWo Press. Sh= e is also a saxophonist and visual artist,=0Afocusing on mixed media collag= e and painting. Several of her collages=0Acan be seen in the current issue = of Pax Americana, as well as featured=0Aon The Best American Poetry Blog, a= nd have been used as cover art for=0Aseveral electronic poetry books publis= hed by Scantily Clad Press.=0APrints of her collages, as well as copies of = her book, Wet=0AInformation, are available for purchase at=0Ahttp://www.zoe= wopress.etsy.com .=0A=0A~=0A=0AR. Erica Doyle was born in Brooklyn to Trini= dadian immigrant parents,=0Aand has lived in Washington, DC, Farmington, Co= nnecticut and La Marsa,=0ATunisia. Her work has appeared in Best American P= oetry, Our Caribbean:=0AA Gathering of Lesbian and Gay Writing from the Ant= illes, Callaloo,=0APloughshares, Best Black Women=E2=80=99s Erotica, Bum Ru= sh the Page, and Ms.=0AMagazine. She has received grants and awards from th= e Hurston/Wright=0AFoundation, the Astraea Lesbian Writers Fund, and she wa= s a New York=0AFoundation for the Arts Poetry Fellow. She is also a fellow = of Cave=0ACanem: A Workshop and Retreat for Black Writers and her manuscrip= t,=0Aproxy, was a finalist for the 2007 Cave Cavem Poetry Prize, selected= =0Aby Claudia Rankine. She received her MFA in Poetry from the New=0ASchool= , and she lives in New York City, where she is at work on a=0Anovel, Fortun= e. Erica teaches in the NYC public schools and is the=0Afacilitator of Tong= ues Afire: A Creative Writing Workshop for queer=0Awomen and trans and gend= er non-conforming people of color.=0A=0A~=0A=0AAdam Fieled is a poet based = in Philadelphia. He has released three=0Aprint books: =E2=80=9COpera Bufa= =E2=80=9D (Otoliths, 2007), =E2=80=9CWhen You Bit=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D (Otolit= hs,=0A2008), and =E2=80=9CChimes=E2=80=9D (Blazevox, 2009), as well as nume= rous chaps,=0Ae-chaps, and e-books, including =E2=80=9CPosit=E2=80=9D (Dusi= e Press, 2007) and =E2=80=9CThe=0AWhite Album=E2=80=9D (ungovernable press,= 2009). He has work in journals like=0ATears in the Fence, Great Works, The= Argotist, Upstairs at Duroc,=0AJacket, and in the &Now Anthology from Lake= Forest College Press. A=0Amagna cum laude graduate of the University of Pe= nnsylvania, he also=0Aholds an MFA from New England College and an MA from = Temple=0AUniversity, where he is completing his PhD.=0A=0A~=0A=0AMatt Rotan= do is a steak-man, a cyclist, and a skeet-shooter. He=0Aprefers swimming to= the harpsichord, mangoes to mangosteen, and=0Ajackfruit above all fruits b= ut the avocado. These days he can often be=0Afound skulking about the edges= of Oyster Bay, Long Island, looking for=0Asomething crunchy. Poems are for= whying and sometimes for why-notting,=0Abut he likes those poems best that= get him the odd fake cigarette or=0Atemporary tattoo. His book is The Come= back=E2=80=99s Exoskeleton and he has=0Apoems in this month=E2=80=99s Shamp= oo. His favorite color is green and silver.=0AThe word is a lot weaker than= a slap on the back of the head, except=0Awhen it isn=E2=80=99t. The inside= of words is a spacey place for looking out.=0AThat=E2=80=99s grandiloquenc= e! And in the shade of a Bonzai tree, or just a=0Arented white wall, his sh= oes await The Great Trans-American Spin.=0A=0A~=0A=0AMetta Sama says: I am = a poet, professor, activist, painter, collage=0Aartist, fiction and essay w= riter. My poetry, currently, looks at=0Ainstabilities in writings by person= s subjected to various forms of=0Aoppression. I am interested in the joy of= making and creating art and=0Astories and images that will, eventually, di= sintegrate, return to the=0Asource it came from. I question what it means t= o make thoughts, ideas,=0A& feelings stable, to devote oneself to immortali= ty. My work has=0Aappeared in Proud Flesh Journal, The Drunken Boat, Blackb= ird, Paterson=0ALiterary Review, Yellow Medicine Review, Crab Orchard, and = other=0Ajournals, & I am the author of one published collection of poems.= =0A=0A~=0A=0APaige Taggart lives in Brooklyn. Her chapbook Polaroid Parade = is=0Aforthcoming with Greying Ghost Press. She has an e-chapbook, Won=E2=80= =99t Be=0AA Girl with Scantily Clad Press. She is a recipient of the 2009 N= YFA=0Afellowship. Recent or forthcoming work can be found at No Tell Motel,= =0AGlitterpony, Raleigh Quarterly, Sink Review, RealPoetik, pax=0Aamericana= , We Are So Happy To Know Something. Peruse her blog:=0Ahttp://mactaggartje= welry. blogspot.com.=0A=0A&=0A=0AMarch 26, Friday ~ Jessica Bozek, Kate Bra= id, Melissa Broder, Jackie=0AClark, Cate Marvin & Brett Eugene Ralph!=0A=0A= March 26 @ 7 p.m. Goodbye Blue Monday =E2=80=93 Bushwick, Brooklyn=0A=0Awit= h=0A=0AJessica Bozek is the author of The Bodyfeel Lexicon (Switchback Book= s)=0Aand several chapbooks. Recent poems appear in Action, Yes, Artifice,= =0AFairy Tale Review, P-QUEUE, and Womb. Jessica runs Small Animal=0AProjec= t (smallanimalproject.com), a reading series and web-text=0Aexperiment base= d in Cambridge, MA.=0A=0A~=0A=0AKate Braid is a poet, essayist, biographer,= and teacher. Braid=E2=80=99s first=0Abook, Covering Rough Ground, was abou= t her experience as a carpenter,=0Aand won the Pat Lowther Award for best b= ook of poems by a Canadian=0Awoman. She is also the author of To This Cedar= Fountain, Inward to the=0ABones: Georgia O=E2=80=99Keefe=E2=80=99s Journey= with Emily Carr, A Well-Mannered=0AStorm: The Glenn Gould Poems, and a co-= editor, Sandy Shreve, of In=0AFine Form, the first anthology of Canadian fo= rm poetry. A second book=0Aof poems about her experiences in construction, = Turning Left to the=0ALadies, was published by Palimpsest in June 2009. Sh= e has also=0Awritten three books of non-fiction and is currently working on= a=0Amemoir of her fifteen years as a carpenter.=0A=0A~=0A=0AMelissa Broder= is the author of WHEN YOU SAY ONE THING BUT MEAN YOUR=0AMOTHER (Ampersand = Books, February 2010). She is the curator of the=0APolestar Poetry Series a= nd the Chief Editor of La Petite Zine. Broder=0Areceived her BA from Tufts = University and is currently in the MFA=0Aprogram at CCNY. She is the winner= of the Jerome Lowell Dejur Award=0Aand the Stark Prize for Poetry. By day,= she works as a literary=0Apublicist. Her poems have appeared in many journ= als, including: Opium,=0AShampoo, Conte and The Del Sol Review.=0A=0A~=0A= =0AJackie Clark is currently co-editor-in-chief for LIT magazine. She=0Aals= o curates Poets off Poetry at coldfrontmag.com, where poets write=0Aabout m= usic. Her chapbook Office Work is forthcoming from Greying=0AGhost Press. = She lives in Jersey City.=0A=0A~=0A=0ACate Marvin=E2=80=99s first book, Wo= rld=E2=80=99s Tallest Disaster, was chosen by=0ARobert Pinksy for the 2000 = Kathryn A. Morton Prize and published by=0ASarabande Books in 2001. In 2002= , she received the Kate Tufts=0ADiscovery Prize. Her poems have appeared in= The New England Review,=0APoetry, The Kenyon Review, Fence, The Paris Revi= ew, The Cincinnati=0AReview, Slate, Verse, Boston Review, and Ninth Letter.= She is=0Aco-editor with poet Michael Dumanis of the anthology Legitimate= =0ADangers: American Poets of the New Century (Sarabande Books, 2006).=0AHe= r second book of poems, Fragment of the Head of a Queen, was=0Apublished by= Sarabande in August 2007. A recent Whiting Award=0Arecipient and 2007 NYFA= Gregory Millard Fellow, she teaches poetry=0Awriting in Lesley University= =E2=80=99s Low-Residency M.F.A. Program and is an=0Aassociate professor in = creative writing at the College of Staten=0AIsland, City University of New = York.=0A=0A~=0A=0ABrett Eugene Ralph spent the better part of his youth in = Louisville,=0AKentucky, playing football and singing in punk rock bands. H= is work=0Ahas appeared in journals such as Conduit, Mudfish, Willow Springs= , and=0AThe American Poetry Review; it has been anthologized in The=0AMcSwe= eney=E2=80=99s Book of Poets Picking Poets and The Stiffest of the=0ACorpse= : An Exquisite Corpse Reader. His first full-length collection,=0ABlack Sab= batical, was published by Sarabande Books in 2009. Brett has=0Ataught at t= he University of Massachusetts, Missouri State University,=0Aand the Centra= l Institute of Buddhist Studies in the Himalayas of=0Anorthern India. Curr= ently, he lives in Empire, Kentucky, and teaches=0Aat Hopkinsville Communit= y College. His country rock ensemble, Brett=0AEugene Ralph=E2=80=99s Kentu= cky Chrome Revue, can be heard in seedy dives=0Athroughout the South.=0A=0A= at=0A=0AGoodbye Blue Monday=0A1087 Broadway=0A(corner of Dodworth St)=0ABro= oklyn, NY 11221-3013=0A(718) 453-6343=0A=0AJ M Z trains to Myrtle Ave=0Aor = J train to Kosciusko St=0A=0A~=0A=0AHosted by Amy King and Ana Bo=C5=BEi=C4= =8Devi=C4=87=0A=0A=0A=0A--=0AHTML GIANT -- You might like me too:=0A=0Ahttp= ://htmlgiant.com/author- spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a- lot/=0A=0A=0A=0A = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:25:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Shankar, Ravi (English)" Subject: Tuition Scholarship to MFA Program in Hong Kong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Department of English at City University of Hong Kong is pleased to = announce a one-year full Tuition Scholarship, to be awarded to a 2010 = candidate for our new, international, low-residency Masters of Fine Arts = (MFA) in Creative Writing. The winner will be the applicant who submits = the sample of creative writing that demonstrates the greatest potential = for success as a professional literary author. Applicants in any genre = are eligible, as long as they meet the acceptance criteria for this = postgraduate degree. There is no restriction as to country of = residence, age or nationality. At City University, we seek to develop Asia=92s future writers, and = this scholarship is offered to attract the most talented writers to our = programme. This summer, we begin our first class of writers for the MFA = in Creative Writing specialising in Asian Writing in English, the first = programme in the world to offer this specialty. Based in the English = department, the innovative 45-credit, two-year programme will accept a = limited number of students in creative non-fiction, fiction and poetry. = The degree is benchmarked to international standards for the MFA. The = Hong Kong native author Xu Xi assisted in its development and joined the = Department as their first Writer-in-Residence on March 1. =93We anticipate the majority of applicants to be from Asia,=94 Xu says, = =93but many writers in the West, both of Asian and non-Asian ethnicity, = are increasingly drawn to Asia, especially China. They=92re not always = best served by MFA programmes in the West where there=92s little focus = on either a contemporary or historical Asian perspective or Asian = literature.=94 The faculty will all be writers who =91know Asia, live = Asia, read Asia, write Asia=92 as the programme=92s advertising says. = The top criterion for admission will be the quality of creative work. This initiative is part of an overall strategy to develop the creative = curriculum at the university. Professor Kingsley Bolton, Head of English = at City University says, =93Our English Department is a very young one, = but probably one of the most dynamic and innovative departments of its = kind in Asia. In the next few years, we are aiming to make the English = Department here a leading centre for creative writing, drama, and = cultural studies, not only for Hong Kong but also for the whole of the = Asian region.=94 The MFA is generally considered a professional degree, = qualifying students to work in professions where good writing skills are = required, as well as providing the groundwork for an international = writing and publishing career. The low-residency graduate degree model is relatively new in Asia. A = long-established pedagogical model in the U.S., such programmes are = especially suited for the creative arts. In particular, this programme = is ideal for working professionals who cannot afford to spend two years = as full-time graduate students in a traditional writing programme. = Structured for individualised learning, students work via distance = learning with writing mentors on a one-on-one basis during the = semesters, and attend brief =91residencies=92 at the university two to = three times a year. The low faculty-to-student ratio allows for = intensive feedback on the student=92s work and approximates the = professional editor-writer relationship. The first residency is scheduled for summer 2010. The internationally = renowned novelist Timothy Mo will be Visiting Writer and the faculty = writers for the 2010 class features an international cast from Hong = Kong, India, the U.K, Canada and the U.S., with connections and roots in = China, Japan, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and elsewhere. The = writers include Tina Chang, Marilyn Chin, Luis Francia, Robin Hemley, = Justin Hill, Sharmistha Mohanty, James Scudamore, Ravi Shankar, Jess Row = and Madeleine Thien. For applications, please visit = http://www.english.cityu.edu.hk/MFA. For further information, please = email mfawriting@cityu.edu.hk or call Xu Xi at ++852.3442.8732. March 11, 2010 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:42:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at The Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Here=B9s what=B9s coming up at The Poetry Project: Monday, March 22, 8 PM FORM FREE FORM=20 STEVE BENSON, CARLA HARRYMAN, JON RASKIN QUARTET & KONRAD STEINER Performing in various combinations, three short pieces will be presented: a structured improvisation for text and voice (Carla Harryman and Steve Benson); a free improvisation (Jon Raskin Quartet); and a scripted live fil= m narration piece on two scenes featuring French actress Jeanne Moreau (Konra= d Steiner and Carla Harryman). A larger ensemble piece will follow. Jon Raski= n Quartet: Jon Raskin, reeds and electronics; Liz Allbee, horns; John Shiurba= , guitar; Ches Smith, drums and percussion. See bios at poetryproject.org. Wednesday, March 24, 8 PM Janet Hamill & Margaret Randall Janet Hamill is the author of five books of poetry: Troublante (Oliphant Press), The Temple (Telephone Books), Nostalgia of the Infinite (Ocean View Books), Lost Ceilings (Telephone Books); and her most recent collection, Body of Water, published by Bowery Books, and nominated for the Poetry Society of America=B9s William Carlos Williams Prize. She has released two CD=B9s of spoken word and music in collaboration with the band Moving Star. Flying Nowhere (Yes No Maybe Records, 2000) was produced by Lenny Kaye and executive-produced by Bob Holman; the CD featured cameo performances by Lenny Kaye and Patti Smith. Genie of the Alphabet (Not Records 2005) featured cameos by Lenny Kaye, Patti Smith, Bob Holman and David Amram. Margaret Randall lived for almost a quarter century in Latin America: Mexico, Cuba, and Nicaragua. When she returned to the United States, in 1984, the Immigration and Naturalization Service ordered her deported because of opinions expressed in some of her books. With the help of many writers and others, she won her case in 1989. During the 1960s, out of Mexico City, Randall and Mexican poet Sergio Mondragon published the influential bi-lingual poetry journal El Corno Emplumado / The Plumed Horn. She has also done a great deal of translation from the Spanish, making such Latin American poets as Roque Dalton, Otto Rene Castillo, and others available to an English readership. Among Randall=B9s most recent books of poetry are Where They Left You For Dead (BookWorks), Stones Witness (The University of Arizona Press), and Their Backs To The Sea (Wings Press). My Town will be published by Wings in 2010. Randall lives with her partner, Barbara Byers, in Albuquerque, New Mexico, from where she travels widely to read and speak. Friday, March 26, 10 PM A Similar But Different Quality Magazine Reading A Similar But Different Quality is an experimental text-based journal unspecific to any genre. The sole parameter is that the work is text, which opens us to the surprise and poetry of language that is everywhere. Published occasionally, their manifesto reads: Accidents. Words are everywhere and inevitably beautiful. What tries to be poetic is often not because true poetry is an accident. The poetry genre is paradoxically unpoetic, too narrow to contain the full beauty of language that permeates everyday conversation, movie dialogue, graffiti, theatre, song lyrics, notes, diary entries, grocery lists, receipts, rap, text messages, emails, spam, tweets, etc, etc. To poetry without boundaries, except the words. Not poetry, but words. To an immediate, unpretentious and zesty poetry. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.org/become-a-member Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.org/program-calendar The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.org www.poetryproject.org Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $95 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.org. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:47:36 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: five new above/ground press poetry chapbooks, Green Wind, by Ken Norris (Maine) $5 apartments, section three by Aaron Tucker (Toronto) $3 Some Forty, by rob mclennan (Ottawa) $3 Town in a Long Day of Leaving by Marcus McCann (Toronto/Ottawa) $3 A History of Button Collecting by Helen Hajnoczky (Calgary) $3 Frank St. by Cameron Anstee (Ottawa) $4 spring is upon us, & a new batch of above/ground press poetry chapbooks! add $1 to orders for shipping, etc (outside Canada, $2 US); payable to rob mclennan a/g subscribers receive complimentary copies; 2010 subscriptions still available; write for submission/subscription info, c/o 858 Somerset Street West, main floor, Ottawa ON K1R 6R7, or check out rob_mclennan@hotmail.com or abovegroundpress.blogspot.com -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:07:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Poetica Blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All; My second Poetica critique is on Vincent Tripi's book of haiku, = "Pennyweight for Nothing": http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/weishaus/Poetica/blog-2.htm Contents Page: http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/weishaus/Poetica/intro.htm Warm Regards, Joel=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:26:26 -1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jonathan Morse Subject: Advertise small press books on e.g. Bravo or Ovation? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's the suggestive video. http://www.slatev.com/video/how-i-ran-ad-fox-news/ Jonathan Morse http://jonathan-morse.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:27:09 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: Red Rover Series / what's new in 2010? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Red Rover Series {readings that play with reading} NEW venue NEW curator NEW review NEW readings Experiment #35: Fairy Tales SATURDAY, APRIL 3rd 7pm / doors lock 7:30 Featuring: Jenny Boully Kate Zambreno at Outer Space Studio 1474 N. Milwaukee Chicago, Illinois suggested donation $4 **NEW VENUE** near CTA Damen blue line third floor walk up not wheelchair accessible JENNY BOULLY is the author of the forthcoming not merely because of the unk= nown that was stalking towards them (Tarpaulin Sky Press), The Book of Begi= nnings and Endings (Sarabande), [one love affair]* (Tarpaulin Sky Books), a= nd The Body: An Essay (Essay Press). Her work has been anthologized in The= Next American Essay, The Best American Poetry, Language for a New Century,= and Great American Prose Poems. Her work has been published in Boston Rev= iew, Gulf Coast, Fourth Genre, Columbia, Verse, Seneca Review, Conduit, and= other places. She is currently a Ph.D. Candidate at the Graduate Center o= f the City University of New York and holds previous graduate degrees in cr= eative writing from the University of Notre Dame and Hollins University. S= he teaches in the Nonfiction and Poetry programs at Columbia College Chicag= o. KATE ZAMBRENO is the author of O Fallen Angel, published in April by Chiasm= us Press, winner of their =E2=80=9CUndoing the Novel=E2=80=9D contest. She = is an editor at Nightboat Books. A collection of essays inspired by her blo= g Frances Farmer Is My Sister (http://francesfarmerismysister.blogspot.com)= will be published by Semiotext(e)=E2=80=99s Active Agents series in Fall 2= 011.=20 RED ROVER SERIES WELCOMES NEW CURATOR LAURA GOLDSTEIN! Laura's poetry, reviews and essays can be found in Requited, Little Red Lea= ves, How2, EAOGH, Text/Sound, Rabbit Light Movies, Otoliths, CutBank Review= s, Moria, and The Little Magazine. She has two chapbooks: Ice in Intervals = from Hex Press and Day of Answers from Tir Aux Pigeons. She has performed h= er work in Chicago at Links Hall, the Elastic Arts Foundation, and in New Y= ork at the Bowery Poetry Caf=C3=A9 and Unnameable Books. She currently teac= hes Writing and Literature at the School of the Art Institute and Loyola Un= iversity.=20 GOOD WISHES TO CURATOR LISA JANSSEN! Lisa is taking time this year to focus on her awesome editoral projects, li= ke the journal MoonLit. Look for a new issue soon (http://www.dragcity.com= /artists/moonlit). We wish her the best success! HOW2 FEATURE ON RED ROVER SERIES! Check out the Red Rover Series as part of How2's special issue on Poetic Ec= onomies of Performance. (http://www.asu.edu/pipercwcenter/how2journal/vol_3_no_3/performance/emanue= l-reading-performance.html) Red Rover Series is curated by Laura Goldstein and Jennifer Karmin. Each ev= ent is designed as a reading experiment with participation by local, nation= al, and international writers, artists, and performers. The series was foun= ded in 2005 by Amina Cain and Jennifer Karmin. Email ideas for reading experiments to us at redroverseries@yahoogroups.com The schedule for events is listed at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redroverseries UPCOMING May 22 - Asimina Chremos with Joseph Ravens & Alycia Scott=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:21:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bruce McPherson Subject: New Ted Enslin book MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable McPherson & Co. proudly announces Theodore Enslin's new book, I, = Benjamin, to be published March 25th. Special offer to fellow list members until April 16th: $8 per copy = first-class postage paid (normally $12.50 with postage). To respond to = this special offer simply email bmcphersonco@gmail.com with = "Enslin032510" in subject line, and then place your order at our website = www.mcphersonco.com I, Benjamin: A Quasi-Autobiographical Novella by Theodore Enslin With an Afterword by Howard McCord. Publication: March 25, 2010 (the author=92s 85th birthday) $10.00 trade paperback, 63 pages, 0-929701-90-9 / 978-0929701-90-5 A lonely man possessing special powers crosses into an unknown country. = There he meets three mysterious figures: an alluring diva, a = shape-shifting siren, and an oddly omniscient hunter. Gradually the = four-part variations of I, Benjamin assume the disquieting dimensions of = a visionary passageway to that unknowable thing called a beautiful life. = Theodore Enslin=92s poetic career spans 52 years since the publication = of his first book, The Work Proposed; now as his self-proclaimed swan = song he presents a "quasi-autobiographical" fable of an artist=92s life. = "Enslin writes himself a life, a melodious, ideal and legendary one, a = dream life that comes to the man-child when he decides to make art his = life. This tale is charming, and is, besides, a marvelous recipee for = making oneself a life out of words. The reader roams this confined = paradise until it suddenly opens, and then one wants to stay." -- Andrei = Codrescu "Enslin=92s story, a pilgrimage from "Exurbia" to solitary life in the = woods and his subsequent journey back, is reminiscent of Thoreau. The = narrative, which approaches allegory, oscillates between a dreamy = sublimity and Spartan intention. Running through this ethereal story are = more austere currents: the limitations of time and body, and the despair = of loneliness. Fans of the poet will of course be fascinated by the = journey, but more broadly, this exploration offers an intriguing sojourn = to those interested in metaphysical travel or in the life cycle of an = artist." -- Jen Sperry-Steinorth, ForeWord Reviews (March-April issue) Theodore Vernon Enslin (born March 25, 1925) is the last living American = poet of the first circle associated with Cid Corman's Origin magazine = and press (which included Robert Creeley, Charles Olson, and two earlier = Objectivists, George Oppen and Louis Zukofsky). He is one of the most = musical of American avant-garde poets. Enslin was born in Chester, = Pennsylvania. His father was a noted biblical scholar and his mother a = teacher of Latin. He studied musical composition at Cambridge, = Massachusetts with Nadia Boulanger, who recognized his ability as a = writer and encouraged him to pursue his interest in poetry. He has said = "I like to be considered as a composer who happens to use words instead = of notes." Hs first book, The Work Proposed, was published by Origin in = 1958. Enslin moved to Maine in 1960 and has lived in Washington County = ever since, working at odd jobs and making and selling handmade walking = sticks. The Maine landscape forms an integral part of his poetry, as = does the isolation, both geographic and in terms of distance from = literary fashion and the academy. Ranger (1978) is regarded as one of = the key American long poems of the second half of the 20th century. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:51:33 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Robert Dewhurst Subject: satellite telephone #3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SATELLITE TELEPHONE is a handmade magazine of poetry and new narrative. New writing in issue #3 by: BRUCE BOONE, JOSHUA BECKMAN, MARIE BUCK, TODD COLBY, CACONRAD, THOM DONOVAN, TANYA LARKIN, HEDI EL KHOLTI, ISH KLEIN, CHRIS KRAUS, NICOLE MAURO, SHARON MESMER, REBEKAH RUTKOFF, and ROD SMITH. Original cover drawing by TRACEY EMIN. $7, ppd. http://nolongdistance.endingthealphabet.org Robert Dewhurst ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:01:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tim Peterson Subject: EOAGH presents Barbara Henning and Simon Pettet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 EOAGH Reading Series: Barbara Henning and Simon Pettet Sunday, March 21 at 7PM at Unnameable Books, 600 Vanderbilt Avenue, Brooklyn, NY FREE BARBARA HENNING is the author of three novels, seven books of poetry and a series of photo-poem pamphlets. Her most recent books are a collection of poetry and prose, Cities & Memory (Chax Press 2010) and a novel, Thirty Miles from Rosebud (BlazeVox 2009). Professor Emerita at Long Island University Brooklyn Campus, she is presently teaching courses for Naropa University, as well as LIU. Read "Little Tesuque" by Barbara Henning in EOAGH 4: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefour/henning.html Read "The Content of History Will Be Poetry" (on Charles Olson) in EOAGH 5: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefive/henning.html SIMON PETTET is the author of a number of books, most recently HEARTH, his Collected-Poems-so-far, which came out last year from Talisman. He recently completed (with James Meetze) co-editing Other Flowers: The UnCollected Poems of James Schuyler, which will be published by Farrar,Straus in April (next month!) Read "Poem ('I don't think')" by Simon Pettet in EOAGH 4: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefour/pettet.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:26:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Interview with Malok (1997) at Dreamtime Village Comments: To: spidertangle@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interview with Malok (1997) at Dreamtime Village By Miles Newcombe and Paul Gavriloff http://vimeo.com/5969619 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:47:43 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: 25 questions: question # 3... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question # 3: If a poet can write one or two or more great works of poetry why cannot all of his or her works be great? G. E. Schwartz ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:56:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Linda Russo contact email? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Does anyone have an email address for Linda Russo? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:40:12 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: blacksox@ATT.NET Subject: Sadly Sondra Ball has moved on... Comments: To: info AP , meetup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For those of you who didn't know her, Sondra Ball was an amazing woman. She created the award winning poetry journal Autum Leaves. The dedication and work on her part to do this every Month for almost 20 years tells you a little about what kind of person Sondra was. But to know her best was to read her poems. Always filled with nature, purity of spirit, and kindness, her poems were a glimpse at the wonderful heart that drove the woman. Sondra changed my life's path, no doubt about it. She published my poetry over 100 times. She took the time to give me advice, and aim my own poetic aspirations.Lastly, she became a friend I spoke with, depended, on and will miss dearly as my life goes on . This is one of her poems that now bring tears to my eyes because of it's beauty. The Far Side by Sondra Ball She walks in my dream among fields and winding roads. It is a spring day, and it is snowing on flowers scattered among the grasses. Her face is troubled by snow falling on lilacs and on cherry blooms. I lie on a purple bed on the far side of the vale. I watch her walking. She does not know I am here, that I can see her inside her troubled poses, captured by this spring snow storm. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:13:15 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Re: Younger Italian-American Poets In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable proving Italian ain't always easy. Ferlinghetti is mostly Italian due 2 the= spelling of his surname. Mary Jo Salter is half/Italian. I'm half Italian = 2 although I don't speak a work of that tongue and my surname is Russell. I= hate the word young. I hate young people. If I discover a young Latin Amer= ican poet of Italian descent, I'll write. Pronto...=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________= _______________________=0AFrom: George Bowering =0ATo: POE= TICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0ASent: Tue, March 16, 2010 10:38:17 PM=0ASubject= : Re: Younger Italian-American Poets=0A=0AYou might check out Ed Prato,=0Aw= ho made a stir a few years ago and seems to have faded from the scene.=0A= =0Agb=0A=0A=0AOn Mar 15, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Emma Bolden wrote:=0A=0A> I am = of Italian descent, as is Emari Digiorgio!=0A> =0A> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at= 12:57 PM, William Allegrezza=0A> wrote:=0A> =0A>> A= Italian friend of mine is looking for young or lesser known American=0A>> = or Latin American poets of Italian descent for an upcoming anthology.=0A>> = If you have someone to suggest, please send me an e-mail.=0A>> ,=0A>> -----= ---=0A>> =0A>> Un amigo m=EDo italiano est=E1 buscando a poetas americanos = o=0A>> latinoamericanos jovenes o menos conocidos de la ascendencia italian= a=0A>> para una antolog=EDa. Si tienes alguien a sugerir, env=EDeme un corr= eo=0A>> electr=F3nico.=0A>> =0A>> Bill Allegrezza=0A>> =0A>> =3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A>> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all po= sts. Check guidelines=0A>> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics= /welcome.html=0A>> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> --Emma Bolden=0A> =0A> www.emmabolde= n.wordpress.com=0A> =0A> Visiting Assistant Professor=0A> Department of Eng= lish=0A> Georgetown College=0A> 400 East College Street=0A> Georgetown, KY = 40324=0A> =0A> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A> The Poetics List is moderate= d & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://ep= c.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=0A=0AGeo. Bowering=0AHeavy feet. Light h= eart.=0A=0A=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0AThe Poetics List is moderated = & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.= buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=0A=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:20:22 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Re: Chirot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frederick Seidel is sort of outside. Fucking great poet. Outside ... big fu= cking word ... outside the mainstream? Seidel refused to revise the so-call= ed anti-Catholic/Jewish poems in his first book. Lowell nominated him for s= omething but Seidel wouldn't budge or change a word ...=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____= ___________________________=0AFrom: David-Baptiste Chirot =0ATo: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0ASent: Tue, March 16, 2010 2:= 18:29 AM=0ASubject: Re: Chirot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog= =0A=0Athis is in response to Steve Dalichinsky's question: =0A=0ADate: Sat,= 13 Mar 2010 14:38:52 +0530=0A> From: skyplums@JUNO.COM=0A> Subject: Re: Ch= irot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog=0A> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.B= UFFALO.EDU=0A> =0A> who what are outsider poets no one eer answered my que= st/ion ME???=0A> no education no whatt??? what??? what who is/are outside= r(s)?=0A=0A=0A=0ADear Stephen--=0A=0Awhen i first read Jerry's announcement= on the Poetics List last September--that he is working on line on an=0Aenv= isioned Anthology of Outsider Poetry--i also wondered--and do wonder=0Ayet-= -what an Outsider Poetry might be=E2=80=94=0A=0A=0A=0ADoes it mean a kind o= f extension into poetry of the examples drawn from=0A"Outsider Art?"--(some= of the examples you use here are among those=0Aused in the general ideas p= ut forward as criteria for "Outsider Art")--is=0Ait =E2=80=9Cimporting=E2= =80=9D=E2=80=94from another =E2=80=9Cfield=E2=80=9D-in a way that perhaps i= s like that of the=0ASlow Food Movement being included into the Slow Poetry= Movement--??)=0A=0A=0A=0AOutsider in relation to what as "Inside?"--=0A=0A= How might the "Outside" Poet and Poetry mini-Anthology differ from Antholog= ies like=0Athe "Outlaw Bible of American Poetry" or--any number of antholog= ies=0Apreviously assembled by Jerry, George Quasha, Richard Alpert, Richard= Kostelanetz and many others?--Or any example of a collection of=0A"avant-g= arde" and "experimental" poetries?=0A=0A=0A=0ASince Jerry has worked so lon= g in so many areas of Poetry, i thought he might=0Ahave perhaps already som= e ideas as to his conceptions of what an Outsider Poetry=0Ais--yet i have a= feeling--this is just my own "intuition" really--i=0Ahave a feeling that p= art of what really sets this project apart is that the=0Anature of the Outs= ide and Outsider may emerge in at least some guises and that=0Athese will e= merge as the projects moves along. That to me is the really beautiful=0Apa= rt of the Anthology--that it is being assembled in "real time" and on=0Alin= e--one may follow it as it develops--and, more than that, besides finding= =0Aexamples which might function as "answers," what one really finds, to=0A= me at any rate, is the openness to a continual questioning and finding, an= =0Aopenness to the idea that this is not already a pre conceived set of exa= mples,=0Aprejudices, opinions, nor a trendy tip of the hat to any other mov= ements=0Aetc--but truly is an ongoing investigation.=0A=0A=0A=0AWhen Gertru= de Stein, so the story goes, was on her dying bed--she looked up at=0Awhoev= er was present--and said--"What is the=0Aanswer?"--Then--laughing--she "ans= wered" by saying--"What=0Ais the question?"=0A=0A=0A=0AI think the nature o= f this project, or the way i understand it and work with=0Ait, is to keep a= sking questions--interesting & useful questions that as they emerge lead to= further=0Aquestion, findings, researches and the development of new method= s, techniques,=0Anew conceptions, as well as the re-finding of older exampl= es from around the=0Aworld which themselves ask questions which are just as= alive today as when=0Afirst asked--=0A=0A=0A=0AQuestioning is something mu= ch absent in discussions of any kind today--what is=0Areally wanted, for th= e most part, are examples, descriptions, categories,=0Ajargons, and ways to= pigeon hole a poet or form of poetry. This allows=0Afor the creation of n= ew anthologies, new job descriptions for candidates for=0Asuch and such a p= osition, opens much needed vacancies in the employment world=0Aof today--To= have the answers means also that a sense of "order" is=0Acreated, in order= to fix with in the orders hierarchies, steps on the career=0Apath, ways to= pad the resume and so forth. Answers also give one the=0Asense that due t= o Order being established, it must be maintained and various=0A"security me= asures taken,=E2=80=9D in order to protect the boundaries and members=0Aof = such and such a grouping, such and such a "movement"--to the point=0Awhere = orders are in fact necessary to keep order. That is, a process of=0Aarrang= ing a certain status quo which must be kept by following the orders of=0Ath= e day vis a vis such and such an Authority, Group and etc--=0A=0A=0A=0AWhen= the announcement of the Anthology was first made, i had only=0Aquestions--= and was amazed to find that they were invited to appear at the Poets=0Aand = Poetics mini-anthology in the making of the Outsider Poetry and Poets--=0A= =0Asince i can't give you an answer per se--here are the questions again, w= ith the=0Alink where to find them.=0A=0Ahopefully they may be of interest a= nd use--not in answering, but in finding=0Aever more questions to ask--=0A= =0A=0A=0ARather than the delineating of boundaries "in order" to demonstrat= e=0Awhat are the boundaries of Outsider Poetry,--one finds bridges, links, = trains=0Aof associations--with which to further investigate and think on th= ese questions=0Are the Outsider Poetry--=0A=0ANot Barriers--Bridges--Not Wa= lls--but Windows--=0A=0A=0A=0AHere is the response to the announcement--i h= ope it's useful & interesting--=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttp://poemsandpoetics.blogspot.= com/2009/09/outsider-poems-mini-anthology-in.html=0A=0A> Date: Sat, 13 Mar = 2010 14:38:52 +0530=0A> From: skyplums@JUNO.COM=0A> Subject: Re: Chirot at = Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics blog=0A> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.E= DU=0A> =0A> who what are outsider poets no one eer answered my quest/ion = ME???=0A> no education no whatt??? what??? what who is/are outsider(s)?=0A= > =0A> =0A> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:31:19 -0800 David Chirot =0A> writes:=0A> > I'n very honored and excited to have as Jerome = Rothenberg's Poets =0A> > and=0A> > Poetics blog current entry essay of min= e on the Gunatanamo Poets, =0A> > which=0A> > originally appeared in KAURAB= I have provided the link here for the =0A> > esay's=0A> > original appearnc= e and the current one at Jerry's blog, along with =0A> > the link=0A> > to = another piece of mine re the Guantanamo Poets which appeared in=0A> > Wordf= orWord #13 on "Waterboarding and Poetry: Francois Villon and =0A> > the ne= w=0A> > Extreme Experimental American Poetry."=0A> > =0A> > I hope that lis= tserv memebrs and any and evryone may find something =0A> > of=0A> > intere= st and use in the essays, themselves part of an ongoing and =0A> > ever=0A>= > expanding series of works across several genres and media--=0A> > onwo/a= rds!=0A> > david-bc=0A> > and happy weekend, with the advent of Daylight Sa= vings Time!!=0A> > Outsider Poems, A Mini-Anthology in Progress (14): David= Baptiste =0A> > Chirot,=0A> > Non-Poetry for Non-Readers (Poems from=0A> >= =0A> Guant=C3=A1namo) ni-anthology-in.html>=0A> > [a commentary on *Poems from Guan= t=C3=A1namo: The Detainees=0A> > Speak=0A> > *, edited by Marc Falkoff, University of Iow= a Press, 2007]=0A> > =0A> > (towards a non-reading - American abolition of = "non-literatures" - =0A> > an entry=0A> > in the Annals of the New Extreme = Experimental Poetry)=0A> > =0A> > "*The blank and ruin we see in Nature is = within our own eye*."=0A> > --R.W. Emerson, "Nature"=0A> > =0A> > 1. Dav= id-Baptiste *Chirot* // Word For/Word: A Journal of New =0A> > Writing *=0A= > > ...* =0A> > Some Ameri= can reviewers and commentators on the *Poets* of=0A> > *Guantanamo*have so = far found exactly what they were looking for:=0A> > "bad" poetry in Formal= =0A> > terms, *...*=0A> > www.wordforword.info/vol13/dbc.htm -=0A> >= =0A> vol13/dbc.htm+chirot+on+guantanamo+poets&cd=3D4&hl=3Den&ct=3Dclnk&gl= =3Dus&client=3D=0A> gmail>=0A> > 2. Poems and Poetics =0A> > *...* (14): David Baptiste *Chirot*, Non-Poet= ry for Non-Readers =0A> > (Poems=0A> > from *Guant=C3=A1namo*). [a comme= ntary on Poems from *Guant=C3=A1namo*: =0A> > The=0A> > Detainees Speak,= *...* which and into which the *Guantanamo =0A> > poets* and=0A> > poem= s emerge and become re-confined. *...*=0A> > poemsand*poet*ics.blogspot.= com/ -=0A> >=0A> Cached blogspot.com/+chirot+on+guantanamo+poets&cd=3D5&hl=3D= en&ct=3Dclnk&gl=3Dus&client=3D=0A> gmail>-=0A> > =0A> >=0A> Similar p= oemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/+chirot+on+guantanamo+poets&sa=3DX&ei=3DbZKZS83= 8=0A> LcL78Aavu8nGCg&ved=3D0CBoQHzAE>=0A> > 3. KAURAB Online :: A Bengal= i Poetry Webzine :: Translation=0A> > Site=0A> > David Baptiste *Chirot*. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:42:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Vernon Frazer Subject: New Work from Vernon Frazer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) BELLICOSE WARBLING, my relatively new blog, has links to a new poem and = a new performance piece on Youtube.=20 Here's the link: http://bellicosewarbling.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-works.html Vernon= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:07:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tim Peterson Subject: Henning and Pettet CORRECTION: Time is 2 PM, not 7 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 EOAGH Reading Series: Barbara Henning and Simon Pettet Sunday, March 21 at 2PM at Unnameable Books, 600 Vanderbilt Avenue, Brooklyn, NY FREE BARBARA HENNING is the author of three novels, seven books of poetry and a series of photo-poem pamphlets. Her most recent books are a collection of poetry and prose, Cities & Memory (Chax Press 2010) and a novel, Thirty Miles from Rosebud (BlazeVox 2009). Professor Emerita at Long Island University Brooklyn Campus, she is presently teaching courses for Naropa University, as well as LIU. Read "Little Tesuque" by Barbara Henning in EOAGH 4: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefour/henning.html Read "The Content of History Will Be Poetry" (on Charles Olson) in EOAGH 5: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefive/henning.html SIMON PETTET is the author of a number of books, most recently HEARTH, his Collected-Poems-so-far, which came out last year from Talisman. He recently completed (with James Meetze) co-editing Other Flowers: The UnCollected Poems of James Schuyler, which will be published by Farrar,Straus in April (next month!) Read "Poem ('I don't think')" by Simon Pettet in EOAGH 4: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefour/pettet.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:17:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Vernon Frazer Subject: Fading Melody by Vernon Frazer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQxVzWE8PFU ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:43:37 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Noah Eli Gordon Subject: Zinc Bar reading: Carr, McCann, Gordon this Sunday 630pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This Sunday March 21st @630pm NYC @ Zinc Bar (82 West 3rd Street) Join us on 3/21 for readings by: Michael Carr Anthony McCann Noah Eli Gordon Michael Carr is the author of the Out Another=2C Softer White=2C and Platinum Blonde. Necco Face=2C a chapbook co-written with Jess Mynes and Aaron Tieger=2C came out from Editions Louis Wain last year=2C and a collaborative chapbook with Micah Ballard called Poems from the New Winter Palace is forthcoming from House Press this summer. He lives in Cambridge=2C MA. Anthony McCann is the author of Moongarden (Wave Books 2006) and Father of Noise (Fence Books 2003). Originally from the upper Hudson Valley of New York State he now lives in Los Angeles=2C California. He will be reading poems from his forthcoming book New Dreams of Mammal Island--due out from Wave next spring. Noah Eli Gordon is the author of several books=2C including Novel Pictorial Noise (Harper Perennial=2C 2007)=2C which was selected by John Ashbery for the 2006 National Poetry Series and chosen for the 2007 San Francisco State University Poetry Center Book Award. He lives in Denver and teaches in the MFA program at the University of Colorado-Boulder. Visit his PennSound page here: http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Gordon-Noah-Eli.p= hp =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit because a golfer can't match his/her handicap in every single match because Pele or Maradona couldn't score a goal in every single match they played because ... there is something called probability ...and writing is a worldly thing... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Schwartz" To: Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: 25 questions: question # 3... > Question # 3: If a poet can write one or two or more great works of poetry > why cannot all of his or her works be great? > > G. E. Schwartz > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:20:38 -0700 Reply-To: derek beaulieu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: derek beaulieu Subject: new from NO press: 3 chapbooks Comments: To: UBU , spidertangle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NO press is proud to announce the release of 3 new publications: MANIFESTO: Planning to Stay Al Filreis 8 pp, manifesto. limited edition of 60 handbound copies. $3 * 4 POEMS Reed Altemus 4 pp, visual poetry. limited edition of 40 handbound copies $2 * A HOMOPHONIC TRANSLATION OF CLAUDE GAUVREAU'S TRUSTFUL FATIGUE AND = REALITY Stephen Cain 1 fold leaflet, translation. limited edition of 40 copies $1.50 for more information, or to order copies,=20 contact derek beaulieu=20 derek@housepress.ca =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:04:04 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: susan maurer Subject: Re: New Chapbook by Dan Wilcox from Benevolent Bird Press In-Reply-To: <9A8B52C9-A635-4EB3-B6C6-115D6E6BCF4E@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable congratulations=2C Dan. Susan Maurer =20 > Date: Tue=2C 16 Mar 2010 14:05:05 -0400 > From: dwlcx@EARTHLINK.NET > Subject: New Chapbook by Dan Wilcox from Benevolent Bird Press > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > Benevolent Bird Press of Delmar=2C NY has published "boundless abodes of = Albany=2C" a chapbook of poems by Dan Wilcox. >=20 > Host of the Third Thursday Poetry Night at the Social Justice Center in A= lbany=2C NY=2C Dan Wilcox has had many poems published in a variety of smal= l press zines=2C anthologies=2C internet sites=2C chapbooks=2C & broadsides= . Benevolent Bird Press also recently published a broadside of Wilcox's poe= m "My Sather Gate Illumination." You can read Dan's popular Blog at dwlcx.b= logspot.com.=20 >=20 > Copies of "boundless abodes of Albany" are available from the publisher b= y mail at Benevolent Bird Press=2C P.O. Box 522=2C Delmar=2C NY 12054 for $= 5.00. Copies are also available from the poet at readings or by mail. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:07:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Evan Munday Subject: Denver's Cross-Border Avant-Garde Extravaganza - an off-site AWP event Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear friends, Maybe I'm jumping the gun by talking about the AWP conference already, =20= but I'm eager: Please join the Denver Quarterly and Coach House Books for an off-site =20= AWP reading on Friday, April 9, from 3 - 6 pm at The Dikeou =20 Collection, located in downtown Denver, just a two-block-walk from the =20= Colorado Convention Center. There will be free wine and snacks, and no =20= charge for the event. Coach House will be presenting The Cross-Border Avant-Garde =20 Extravaganza, featuring Canadians Christian B=F6k (Eunoia), Jen Currin =20= (The Inquisition Yours) and kevin mcpherson eckhoff (Rhapsodomancy) =20 and Americans Rachel Levitsky (Neighbor) and K. Silem Mohammad (The =20 Front). Hosted by Coach House senior editor Alana Wilcox, it promises =20= to be a phenomenal afternoon of out-there poetry, with Flarf, =20 surrealism, visual poetry and more! A Peace Bridge of Poetics! DENVER QUARTERLY Reading and Publication Celebration (3 - 4:30 pm) FEATURING Dan Beachy-Quick Julie Carr Malinda Markham Martha Ronk Cole Swensen Brian Teare COACH HOUSE BOOKS: Cross-Border Avant-Garde Extravaganza (4:30 - 6 pm) FEATURING Christian B=F6k Jen Currin kevin mcpherson eckhoff Rachel Levitsky K. Silem Mohammad For media requests or desk/review copies, please contact Evan Munday =20 at 416.979.2217 or evan@chbooks.com. Yours, Evan ------------------------------ Evan Munday Publicist Coach House Books 80 bpNichol Lane Toronto ON, M5S 3J4 416.979.2217 evan@chbooks.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:16:45 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: Douglas Barbour at 70; feature at Jacket magazine a feature on Edmonton poet Douglas Barbour Editor: rob mclennan [¯¯] rob mclennan: Introduction: Call and Response, Douglas Barbour at 70 [¯¯] Douglas Barbour: Ten poems [¯¯] Douglas Barbour: Three poems: Continuations 81 to 83 [¯¯] Douglas Barbour in conversation with Jenna Butler; Conducted by e-mail, April-June 2009 [¯¯] Dennis Cooley: Two poems: Hyoid / Lungs Flapping [¯¯] Sheila E. Murphy: Collaborating with Doug Barbour [¯¯] Stephen Scobie: The Rock Garden: a tribute to Douglas Barbour [¯¯] Christine Stewart: From the Journals of Reading Early Barbour, Summer, 2009 [¯¯] Andy Weaver: : a ghazal for d. b. http://jacketmagazine.com/39/index.shtml#barbour -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:28:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Camille Martin Subject: new at Rogue Embryo In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 New on my blog: 1) Musicality in Poetry http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/musicality-in-poetry/ 2) Barbara Guest's Musicalities http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com/2010/03/20/barbara-guests-musicalities/ Cheers! Camille Camille Martin http://www.camillemartin.ca http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:59:15 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: charles alexander Subject: review of Jane Sprague's Port of Los Angeles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Read a great review by Thom Donovan of Jane Sprague's The Port of Los Angeles here: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2010/03/jane-spragues-the-port-of-los-angeles/ and you can order the book from Chax Press, http://chax.org, or from Small Press Distribution, http://spdbooks.org/ Five new books by Chax Press are up on our site, but only under the "subscription" link on the index page at chax.org -- in a number of days they will be up with their own pages, and I'll post a message. But it's not too late to take advantage of the subscription savings price. The books are: Alice Notley, REASON AND OTHER WOMEN ($21) Charles Bernstein, UMBRA ($15) Barbara Henning, CITIES AND MEMORY ($16) Tenney Nathanson, GHOST SNOW FALLS THROUGH THE VOID (GLOBALIZATION) ($17) Anne Waldman, MATRIOT ACTS ($15) Total retail price from our web site, when they are up, will be $84 plus shipping. The subscription price for these five is $70 with no shipping charges added, and the offer will be temporary. For those of you who have already subscribed, your books will be shipped in the coming week. Thank you for considering Chax Press books, Charles charles alexander chax@theriver.com chax press / poetry & the book arts 411 n seventh ave ste 103 / tucson, az 85705-8388 presenting Ron Silliman & Marilyn Crispell on Jan 30 2010 Andrew Joron, Michael Palmer, & Andrew Zawicki on March 7 2010 DONATE TO CHAX PRESS at http://chax.org/donate.htm ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:34:08 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Philip Meersman Subject: Invitation: BruSlam 21/03/2010 met/avec/with Marc Tiefenthal & Jib=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9_=40GalerY_=28VUB=29_Triomflaan_-_toegang_6_=28near_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?the_KultuurKaf=E9=29=2C_?= Brussels Comments: To: Claude io MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *BruSlam Free Podium* *Sunday 21/03/2010* with/avec/en Marc Tiefenthal & Jib=E9 ...more info BruSlam is a multilingual Slam Free Podium *every 21st of the month* at *V= UB GalerY*. Open to everybody without distinction between language, gender, religion, skin, age=85 with the intention to start up a dialogue between th= e different communities in Brussels: Belgians, Europeans & citizens of the world. info about BruSlam @GalerY Gebouw Y' Campus Etterbeek Vrije Universiteit Brussel (VUB) Triomflaan - toegang 6 (near the CultuurCaf=E9) 1050 Brussel ...localisation *20:00-22:30* *Inscription 19.30* to unsuscribe, answer "slam is dead". Thanks! --=20 Philip Meersman A. Lynenstraat 25 bus 3 1210 St-Joost-ten-Noode Belgium tel+32 (0)476 576 287 www.myspace.com/spooninmybrain www.facebook.com/spooninmybrain www.youtube.com/spooninmybrain skype: Spooninmybrain philip.meersman@gmail.com www.poetasdelmundo.com/verInfo_europa.asp?ID=3D4337 21/03/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 02/04/10: Performance opening expo "Love Letters", KULTOUR10, Sint-Niklaas, BE (http://www.kultour10.be/kultour10/index.php/podium/31-qspooninmybrainq) 16/04/10: "Binnenkort ook in navulpak" op het Once upon a Festival, Kasteel van Laarne, BE (www.onceuponafestival.be) 21/04/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 05/05/10-09/05/10: Literature festival of Tallinn, Estonia 21/05/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 21/07/10: BruSlam, HotsyTotsy, Ghent, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) --=20 Philip Meersman A. Lynenstraat 25 bus 3 1210 St-Joost-ten-Noode Belgium tel+32 (0)476 576 287 www.myspace.com/spooninmybrain www.facebook.com/spooninmybrain www.youtube.com/spooninmybrain skype: Spooninmybrain philip.meersman@gmail.com www.poetasdelmundo.com/verInfo_europa.asp?ID=3D4337 21/03/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 02/04/10: Performance opening expo "Love Letters", KULTOUR10, Sint-Niklaas, BE (http://www.kultour10.be/kultour10/index.php/podium/31-qspooninmybrainq) 16/04/10: "Binnenkort ook in navulpak" op het Once upon a Festival, Kasteel van Laarne, BE (www.onceuponafestival.be) 21/04/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 05/05/10-09/05/10: Literature festival of Tallinn, Estonia 21/05/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 21/07/10: BruSlam, HotsyTotsy, Ghent, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:53:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Lewis Warsh Subject: A Place in the Sun / Book Party Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Spuyten Duyvil Books invites you to a book party/reading for A PLACE IN THE SUN a new novel by Lewis Warsh Friday, March 26, 7-9:30 Bowery Poetry Club 308 Bowery (between Houston & Bleecker) Manhattan With a show of art work by cover artist Pamela Lawton "A deeply engrossing book, I couldn't put it down. And now that I've =20 finished reading it I can't put it away, for how it furthers my =20 thinking of the genre itself. A Place in the Sun beautifully combines =20= the high action and salaciousness of page-turners, with the self-=20 reflection and risk-taking of post-modern fiction. It's a must-read =20 and a must-study." Renee Gladman "Lewis Warsh brings his poet's sensibility to a mash up of literary =20 and genre fiction techniques =96 including constantly shifting =20 perspectives and unexpected interconnections =96 to create an =20 intriguingly compelling and deeply satisfying reading experience. I =20 loved it." Michael Lally "A Place in the Sun is a beautifully rendered and expertly =20 deconstructed novel. Warsh's stunningly effective use of multiple =20 narratives, provided in exquisitely detailed lines, conveys an elastic =20= and powerful emotional honesty. This is a sensual and desperate story =20= from a writer with formidable powers of invention." Donald Breckenridge "In weaving together the cold, explicit facts, gossipy rumors and =20 largely sexual fantasies of the lives of Clift, Taylor, and Drieser, =20 Lewis Warsh creates a tripartite threnody of its own genuine American =20= tragedy, the off-screen, off-page dark truths hidden beneath the drab, =20= glittering surface crust of American life. William Carlos Williams =20 wrote in "To Elsie": "The pure products of America go crazy...." =20 Warsh has captured that in mimicking a sensationalized tabloid voice =20 of a 1950s Confidential mag's hot, breathless prose, and taking a =20 transcendent leap from that gossip and rumor into one of the "great =20 poems of death" Walt Whitman exhorted American poets to write." =20 Michael Rumaker A PLACE IN THE SUN is avaliable from Small Press Distribution orders@spdbooks.org www.spdbooks.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:58:32 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: ian davidson Subject: +Hi+ Comments: To: f.g.kop@swansea.ac.uk, l.owen@bangor.ac.uk, lawrence.upton@britishlibrary.net, leafelitter@hotmail.co.uk, lisar2@wanadoo.fr, lisablower@hotmail.com, thepoetliz@googlemail.com, maeyc@ectogram.co.uk, mairead.byrne@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://supersapidbag4.webs.com?Tzht4 =20 _________________________________________________________________ We want to hear all your funny=2C exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell = us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:04:14 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Randolph Healy Subject: New from Wild Honey Press Comments: To: "BRITISH-IRISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" , "UKPOETRY@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU" , poetry and poetics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's with great pleasure that I announce the publication of _Via_ by Andrew Brewerton. _Via_ consists of thirteen eight-line stanzas and any amount of sturdy grace. It's light and open structure seems practically inexhaustible, though by no means exhausting. Quite the opposite. A real joy. To obtain a copy, please write to me at 16a Ballyman Road, Bray, County Wicklow, Ireland. The cost is that figure other than infinity which is the same in all currencies. See http://www.wildhoneypress.com/BOOKS/Via.htm for more details. best Randolph Apologies if you receive this more than once ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:52:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "J. Michael Mollohan" Subject: Dan Waber does it again. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan Waber is issuing a series of Visual Poetry Chapbooks (by invitation). Mine was one of the first, and I must say the reproduction is first rate. You may purchase mine, Dan's, and others at: http://thisisvisualpoetry.com/ Collect 'em all! LOL ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:47:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: 25 questions: question # 3... In-Reply-To: <68F8A4B1C55B4DC2AB95D55E04E7821B@KayPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Gerald, Define "great," and "work" here. The question doesn't make sense. Why doesn't a good team win all its games? How do you compare earlier and later Picabia? Is Chaucer's Astrolabe a great work? The question, it seems to me, either has an obvious answer - that some things some people are "great" to other people, and some things aren't - or dissolves through an inherent sloppiness. - Alan On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > Question # 3: If a poet can write one or two or more great works of poetry > why cannot all of his or her works be great? > > G. E. Schwartz > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com == ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:05:05 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Comments: RFC822 error: Invalid RFC822 field - "=". Rest of header flushed. From: amy king Subject: Passing of Ai [Florence Anthony -- October 21, 1947 =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=93_?= March 20, 2010] Comments: To: "Discussion of Women\\'s Poetry List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry if I'm repeating, but I didn't see mention of Ai's passing here:=0A= =0Ahttp://blog.bestamericanpoetry.com/the_best_american_poetry/2010/03/in-m= emoriam-to-ai-1947-2010-by-jerry-wiliams-.html=0A=0Aand =0A=0Ahttp://en.wik= ipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(poet)=0A=0ABest,=0A=0AAmy=0A=0A=0A _______=0A=0A=0AHTML= GIANT -- You might like me too:=0A=0Ahttp://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight= /i-like-amy-king-a-lot/=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:36:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Michael, who I never knew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Michael, who I never knew Michael Benedikt and George E. Wellwarth edited Modern French Theatre: The Avant-Garde, Dada, and Surrealism. I recently bought a used copy of the book, first edition. It might have been Benedikt's first book. There's an author's signature on the title page, and an inscription inside the front cover: for Mother dear and F.F. with thanks for the right genes, Michael Michael Benedikt was born in 1935 and died in 2007. I didn't know him. There is something uncanny about the inscription. Michael Benedikt lived 72 years. I think perhaps he gave this to his mother with a sense of pride; he was 29. I think to myself: He gave this book to his mother and F.F., perhaps a father. His mother and perhaps F.F. died, and Michael inherited. It would have been sad for the book to be returned to him, after a temporary journey of pride and happiness. And then Michael died and someone, perhaps a wife or other relative, sold or gave away some of his books, perhaps all of them, and this was one of them. And so Modern French Theater ends up in Adam Tobin's book-store, coming from somewhere, somewhere unknown, perhaps untraceable, and I am reading and learning a great deal, revisiting some old friends, playwrights within. I fear death, death dominates me; I am constantly fighting off depression as best I can. As we run out of money, depression and stress increase. And I think: soon this book will be passed on, and I am less than a silent witness to its passing. So perhaps this is the singing of a solitary and mournful note, so that its passing will be remembered. And perhaps this will be forgotten as well. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:31:46 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Old/still great/ Frederick Seidel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a little late getting this. Seidel gets my vote for most important American poet/2nd half/20th century.= =20 =A0 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/12/magazine/12Seidel-t.html =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:12:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bruce McPherson Subject: New Ted Enslin book MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable McPherson & Co. is very pleased to announce Theodore Enslin's new book, = I, Benjamin, to be published on Thursday, March 25th. I, Benjamin: A Quasi-Autobiographical Novella by Theodore Enslin With an Afterword by Howard McCord. Publication: March 25, 2010 (the author=92s 85th birthday) $10.00 trade paperback, 63 pages, 0-929701-90-9 / 978-0929701-90-5 Theodore Enslin=92s poetic career spans 52 years since the publication = of his first book, The Work Proposed; now as his self-proclaimed swan = song he presents a "quasi-autobiographical" fable of an artist=92s life. = A lonely man possessing special powers crosses into an unknown country. = There he meets three mysterious figures: an alluring diva, a = shape-shifting siren, and an oddly omniscient hunter. Gradually the = four-part variations of I, Benjamin assume the disquieting dimensions of = a visionary passageway to that unknowable thing called a beautiful life. = "Enslin writes himself a life, a melodious, ideal and legendary one, a = dream life that comes to the man-child when he decides to make art his = life. This tale is charming, and is, besides, a marvelous recipee for = making oneself a life out of words. The reader roams this confined = paradise until it suddenly opens, and then one wants to stay." -- Andrei = Codrescu "Enslin=92s story, a pilgrimage from "Exurbia" to solitary life in the = woods and his subsequent journey back, is reminiscent of Thoreau. The = narrative, which approaches allegory, oscillates between a dreamy = sublimity and Spartan intention. Running through this ethereal story are = more austere currents: the limitations of time and body, and the despair = of loneliness. Fans of the poet will of course be fascinated by the = journey, but more broadly, this exploration offers an intriguing sojourn = to those interested in metaphysical travel or in the life cycle of an = artist." -- Jen Sperry-Steinorth, ForeWord Reviews (March-April issue) Theodore Vernon Enslin (born March 25, 1925) is the last living American = poet of the first circle associated with Cid Corman's Origin magazine = and press (which included Robert Creeley, Charles Olson, and two earlier = Objectivists, George Oppen and Louis Zukofsky). He is one of the most = musical of American avant-garde poets. Enslin was born in Chester, = Pennsylvania. His father was a noted biblical scholar and his mother a = teacher of Latin. He studied musical composition at Cambridge, = Massachusetts with Nadia Boulanger, who recognized his ability as a = writer and encouraged him to pursue his interest in poetry. He has said = "I like to be considered as a composer who happens to use words instead = of notes." Hs first book, The Work Proposed, was published by Origin in = 1958. Enslin moved to Maine in 1960 and has lived in Washington County = ever since, working at odd jobs and making and selling handmade walking = sticks. The Maine landscape forms an integral part of his poetry, as = does the isolation, both geographic and in terms of distance from = literary fashion and the academy. Ranger (1978) is regarded as one of = the key American long poems of the second half of the 20th century. Bruce McPherson www.mcphersonco.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:46:55 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Thinking about the Gurlesque today... Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So school me; I'm asking for it: http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/my-visceral-thought/ Best, Amy _______ HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:11:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: Michael, who I never knew In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Alan, This is exactly how knowledge of certain kind, poetry, someone's vision gets translated, through happenstance, distraction partial destruction and occasional, precious momentary illuminations. Thank you for this wonderful passage. More real than desperate attempts to institutionalize hierarchies. All knowledge is built on fragments of other knowledge. Ciao, Murat On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote: > Michael, who I never knew > > > Michael Benedikt and George E. Wellwarth edited Modern French Theatre: The > Avant-Garde, Dada, and Surrealism. I recently bought a used copy of the > book, first edition. It might have been Benedikt's first book. There's an > author's signature on the title page, and an inscription inside the front > cover: > > > for Mother dear > > and F.F. > > with thanks for the right genes, > > Michael > > > Michael Benedikt was born in 1935 and died in 2007. I didn't know him. > There is something uncanny about the inscription. Michael Benedikt lived > 72 years. I think perhaps he gave this to his mother with a sense of > pride; he was 29. I think to myself: He gave this book to his mother and > F.F., perhaps a father. His mother and perhaps F.F. died, and Michael > inherited. It would have been sad for the book to be returned to him, > after a temporary journey of pride and happiness. And then Michael died > and someone, perhaps a wife or other relative, sold or gave away some of > his books, perhaps all of them, and this was one of them. And so Modern > French Theater ends up in Adam Tobin's book-store, coming from somewhere, > somewhere unknown, perhaps untraceable, and I am reading and learning a > great deal, revisiting some old friends, playwrights within. I fear death, > death dominates me; I am constantly fighting off depression as best I can. > As we run out of money, depression and stress increase. And I think: soon > this book will be passed on, and I am less than a silent witness to its > passing. So perhaps this is the singing of a solitary and mournful note, > so that its passing will be remembered. And perhaps this will be forgotten > as well. > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:24:09 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Kevin Killian Subject: Re: Michael, who I never knew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thank you Alan, for your characteristically generous tribute to Michael Benedikt. I never met him either, but in recent years have had many occasions to bless his memory. His landmark 60s anthology of US poets theater work THEATRE EXPERIMENT was the direct predecessor to teh book that David Brazil and I have been editing, THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER 1945-1985. THEATRE EXPERIMENT, with its swirl of myriad theaters, everyone from e.e. cummings to Carolee Schneeman, was the benchmark we hoped to emulate. The guy must really have been something, as you suggest. Kevin K. > > > Michael Benedikt and George E. Wellwarth edited Modern French Theatre: The > Avant-Garde, Dada, and Surrealism. I recently bought a used copy of the > book, first edition. It might have been Benedikt's first book. There's an > author's signature on the title page, and an inscription inside the front > cover: > > > for Mother dear > > and F.F. > > with thanks for the right genes, > > Michael > > > Michael Benedikt was born in 1935 and died in 2007. I didn't know him. > There is something uncanny about the inscription. Michael Benedikt lived > 72 years. I think perhaps he gave this to his mother with a sense of > pride; he was 29. I think to myself: He gave this book to his mother and > F.F., perhaps a father. His mother and perhaps F.F. died, and Michael > inherited. It would have been sad for the book to be returned to him, > after a temporary journey of pride and happiness. And then Michael died > and someone, perhaps a wife or other relative, sold or gave away some of > his books, perhaps all of them, and this was one of them. And so Modern > French Theater ends up in Adam Tobin's book-store, coming from somewhere, > somewhere unknown, perhaps untraceable, and I am reading and learning a > great deal, revisiting some old friends, playwrights within. I fear death, > death dominates me; I am constantly fighting off depression as best I can. > As we run out of money, depression and stress increase. And I think: soon > this book will be passed on, and I am less than a silent witness to its > passing. So perhaps this is the singing of a solitary and mournful note, > so that its passing will be remembered. And perhaps this will be forgotten > as well. > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:01:36 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sam Ladkin Subject: FOOL'S ERRAND FESTIVAL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *FOOL'S ERRAND FESTIVAL* An April Fool's Day evening festival of experimental music, poetry and performance. Sponsored by the *UCC English Literature Society*. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D158991857645 Location: Connolly A, University College Cork Western Road, Cork http://www.ucc.ie/en/VisitorstoUCC/Transportmapsandparking/Maps/East%20Camp= us.pdf Time: 4pm until evening More details to be announced. FREE ENTRY Including... Performance: *Chris Goode & Johnny Liron * http://www.artsadmin.co.uk/projects/associate-artist.php?id=3D32 http://beescope.blogspot.com/ performing a mix-tape of avant-garde literature, including Samuel Beckett, fluxus, John Cage, Christopher Knowles... Music: *Paul Hegarty & VIcky Langan* http://www.myspace.com/desamisducrime performing a work of Fluxus Poetry: *Michael Kindellan and Fergal Gaynor* http://www.barquepress.com/notlove.html http://www.soundeye.org/people/fergal-gaynor AND a cast of TENS for a rare performance of *Christian Wolff's BURDOCKS (1970-1971)* http://renewablemusic.blogspot.com/2006/09/landmarks-18.html Players include Chris Goode, Paul Hegarty, John Godfrey, Vicky Langan, Mick O=92Shea, Danny McCarthy and more to be announced. http://www.dannymccarthy.ie/ http://www.dotdotdotmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/mickoshea http://www.music.ucc.ie/index.php?/staff/detail/john_godfrey/ More details will be forthcoming. Please contact Sam Ladkin on Ladkin@gmail.com with any questions. Or visit the event on the ubiquitous facebook. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:46:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mark Weiss Subject: Boasting rights Comments: To: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This from the March issue of Library Journal. The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry. ed. & tr. by Mark Weiss. U.S.: Univ. of=20 California Pr. 2009. 624p. ISBN 978-0-520-25894-5. pap. $29.95. POETRY Cuba=92s poets have always found their place within=20 the constructs of history, yet we remain na=EFve about these The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry. brilliant writers and the works that they have=20 beautifully created, until now. From the depths=20 of the Cuban psyche, editor and translator Weiss=20 delicately gathers six decades of Cuban poetry in=20 this bilingual anthology. This literary feat, an=20 act of opposition to censorship, inevitably=20 presents the works of poets who have had to fight=20 for their independence. While many Cuban writers=20 were forced into exile, their literature somehow=20 flourished on the island and across the sea,=20 becoming a force in the midst of war and=20 communism. Despite ill-timed acts of bigotry and=20 the crude editing imposed by the Cuban=20 government, they prevailed, candidly sharing=20 their messages at a time when homosexuality was=20 outlawed and antirevolutionary opinions were=20 suppressed. Represented within this book are=20 poets from the mid-1900s to the present, such as=20 Nicol=E1s Guill=E9n, Cintio Vitier, Nancy Morej=F3n,=20 and many others. This is a prized collection of=20 Cuban poetry. Recommended for all libraries and=20 bookstores.=ADRick Villalobos, Villa Park P.L., IL Announcing The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban=20 Poetry (University of California Press). http://go.ucpress.edu/WholeIsland "Not since the 1982 publication of Paul Auster's=20 Random House Book of Twentieth Century French=20 Poetry has a bilingual anthology so effectively=20 broadened the sense of poetic terrain outside the=20 United States and also created a superb=20 collection of foreign poems in English. There is=20 nothing else like it." John Palattella in The=20 Nation =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:45:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Aldon Nielsen Subject: Re: Passing of Ai [Florence Anthony -- October 21, 1947 =?windows-1252?Q?=96_?= March 20, 2010] In-Reply-To: <857053.97446.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is the first news I've heard -- sorry to see it, but thanks for posting. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, amy king wrote: > Sorry if I'm repeating, but I didn't see mention of Ai's passing here: > > > http://blog.bestamericanpoetry.com/the_best_american_poetry/2010/03/in-memoriam-to-ai-1947-2010-by-jerry-wiliams-.html > > and > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(poet) > > Best, > > Amy > > > _______ > > > HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: > > http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > -- Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature Department of English 117 Burrowes Building The Pennsylvania State University University Park, PA 16802-6200 aln10@psu.edu sailing the blogosphere at http://heatstrings.blogspot.com "kindling his mind (more than his mind will kindle)" --William Carlos Williams, early adopter ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:33:27 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Maureen Robins Subject: Re: Boasting rights In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations Mark. Maureen Picard Robins The Pressures of Teaching (Kaplan, June, 2010) On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mark Weiss wrote: > This from the March issue of Library Journal. > > > > The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry. > ed. & tr. by Mark Weiss. U.S.: Univ. of California Pr. 2009. 624p. ISBN > 978-0-520-25894-5. pap. $29.95. POETRY > > Cuba=92s poets have always found their place within the constructs of > history, yet we remain na=EFve about these > The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry. > brilliant writers and the works that they have beautifully created, until > now. From the depths of the Cuban psyche, editor and translator Weiss > delicately gathers six decades of Cuban poetry in this bilingual antholog= y. > This literary feat, an act of opposition to censorship, inevitably presen= ts > the works of poets who have had to fight for their independence. While ma= ny > Cuban writers were forced into exile, their literature somehow flourished= on > the island and across the sea, becoming a force in the midst of war and > communism. Despite ill-timed acts of bigotry and the crude editing impose= d > by the Cuban government, they prevailed, candidly sharing their messages = at > a time when homosexuality was outlawed and antirevolutionary opinions wer= e > suppressed. Represented within this book are poets from the mid-1900s to = the > present, such as Nicol=E1s Guill=E9n, Cintio Vitier, Nancy Morej=F3n, and= many > others. This is a prized collection of Cuban poetry. Recommended for all > libraries and bookstores.=ADRick Villalobos, Villa Park P.L., IL > > > Announcing The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry (University of > California Press). > http://go.ucpress.edu/WholeIsland > > "Not since the 1982 publication of Paul Auster's Random House Book of > Twentieth Century French Poetry has a bilingual anthology so effectively > broadened the sense of poetic terrain outside the United States and also > created a superb collection of foreign poems in English. There is nothing > else like it." John Palattella in The Nation > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:51:17 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Two Tunes: Well I was thinking of George Russell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Well I was thinking of George Russell Two Songs: You Are My Sunshine (exactly a song) You Are My Moonshine (not exactly a song) http://www.alansondheim.org/urmysunshine.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/urmymoonshine.mp3 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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From: lablom@hotmail.com To: poetics@listserv.buffalo.edu Subject: Lance Blomgren Website Date: Fri=2C 19 Mar 2010 19:49:55 +0000 Hi There=2C=20 =20 I have recently created a wordpress website documenting a number writing an= d text-based art projects.=20 =20 http://acmetextworks.wordpress.com/ =20 I would be happy and honoured if you took a look.=20 =20 Thank you=2C Lance Blomgren Dawson City=2C Yukon.=20 =20 Live connected with Messenger on your phone Learn more. =20 _________________________________________________________________ IM on the go with Messenger on your phone http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9712960= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:31:03 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: This Friday, March 26th @ 7 p.m. -- Jessica Bozek, Kate Braid, Melissa Broder, Jackie Clark, Cate Marvin & Brett Eugene Ralph!!! Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable March Madness is a good kind of crazy: good to the last drop! Witness the m= iracle this Friday. We'll take care of those clouds for you. =0A=0AFriday, = March 26th @ 7 p.m -- Goodbye Blue Monday [http://www.goodbyeblue.com/wordp= ress/]=0A=0AWith:=0A=0A=0AJessica Bozek, Kate Braid, Melissa Broder, Jackie= Clark, Cate Marvin & Brett Eugene Ralph!=0A=0A=0AJessica Bozek is the auth= or of The Bodyfeel Lexicon (Switchback Books) and several chapbooks. Recent= poems appear in Action, Yes, Artifice, Fairy Tale Review, P-QUEUE, and Wom= b. Jessica runs Small Animal Project (smallanimalproject.com), a reading se= ries and web-text experiment based in Cambridge, MA.=0A=0A~=0A=0AKate Braid= is a poet, essayist, biographer, and teacher. Braid=E2=80=99s first book, = Covering Rough Ground, was about her experience as a carpenter, and won the= Pat Lowther Award for best book of poems by a Canadian woman. She is also = the author of To This Cedar Fountain, Inward to the Bones: Georgia O=E2=80= =99Keefe=E2=80=99s Journey with Emily Carr, A Well-Mannered Storm: The Glen= n Gould Poems, and a co-editor, Sandy Shreve, of In Fine Form, the first an= thology of Canadian form poetry. A second book of poems about her experienc= es in construction, Turning Left to the Ladies, was published by Palimpsest= in June 2009. She has also written three books of non-fiction and is curre= ntly working on a memoir of her fifteen years as a carpenter.=0A=0A~=0A=0AM= elissa Broder is the author of WHEN YOU SAY ONE THING BUT MEAN YOUR MOTHER = (Ampersand Books, February 2010). She is the curator of the Polestar Poetry= Series and the Chief Editor of La Petite Zine. Broder received her BA from= Tufts University and is currently in the MFA program at CCNY. She is the w= inner of the Jerome Lowell Dejur Award and the Stark Prize for Poetry. By d= ay, she works as a literary publicist. Her poems have appeared in many jour= nals, including: Opium, Shampoo, Conte and The Del Sol Review.=0A=0A~=0A=0A= Jackie Clark is currently co-editor-in-chief for LIT magazine. She also cur= ates Poets off Poetry at coldfrontmag.com, where poets write about music. H= er chapbook Office Work is forthcoming from Greying Ghost Press. She lives = in Jersey City.=0A=0A~=0A=0ACate Marvin=E2=80=99s first book, World=E2=80= =99s Tallest Disaster, was chosen by Robert Pinksy for the 2000 Kathryn A. = Morton Prize and published by Sarabande Books in 2001. In 2002, she receive= d the Kate Tufts Discovery Prize. Her poems have appeared in The New Englan= d Review, Poetry, The Kenyon Review, Fence, The Paris Review, The Cincinnat= i Review, Slate, Verse, Boston Review, and Ninth Letter. She is co-editor w= ith poet Michael Dumanis of the anthology Legitimate Dangers: American Poet= s of the New Century (Sarabande Books, 2006). Her second book of poems, Fra= gment of the Head of a Queen, was published by Sarabande in August 2007. A = recent Whiting Award recipient and 2007 NYFA Gregory Millard Fellow, she te= aches poetry writing in Lesley University=E2=80=99s Low-Residency M.F.A. Pr= ogram and is an associate professor in creative writing at the College of S= taten Island, City University of New York.=0A=0A~=0A=0ABrett Eugene Ralph s= pent the better part of his youth in Louisville, Kentucky, playing football= and singing in punk rock bands. His work has appeared in journals such as = Conduit, Mudfish, Willow Springs, and The American Poetry Review; it has be= en anthologized in The McSweeney=E2=80=99s Book of Poets Picking Poets and = The Stiffest of the Corpse: An Exquisite Corpse Reader. His first full-leng= th collection, Black Sabbatical, was published by Sarabande Books in 2009. = Brett has taught at the University of Massachusetts, Missouri State Univers= ity, and the Central Institute of Buddhist Studies in the Himalayas of nort= hern India. Currently, he lives in Empire, Kentucky, and teaches at Hopkins= ville Community College. His country rock ensemble, Brett Eugene Ralph=E2= =80=99s Kentucky Chrome Revue, can be heard in seedy dives throughout the S= outh.=0A=0Aat=0A=0AGoodbye Blue Monday=0A1087 Broadway=0A(corner of Dodwort= h St)=0ABrooklyn, NY 11221-3013=0Ahttp://www.goodbyeblue.com/wordpress/=0A= =0AJ M Z trains to Myrtle Ave=0Aor J train to Kosciusko St=0A=0A~=0AHosted = by Amy King and Ana Bo=C5=BEi=C4=8Devi=C4=87=0A _______=0A=0A=0ATHE GURLESQ= UE - NOT ENOUGH GRRRL?=0A=0Ahttp://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/my-visc= eral-thought/=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:40:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jason Quackenbush Subject: Re: Thinking about the Gurlesque today... In-Reply-To: <429448.86267.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) please forgive the straight white maleness of my thinking on this, but one of the things that I've noticed about the burlesque revival that this sort of poetry seems to fit into is that it is not so much about the experience of desire, but about being the object of desire and specifically of male desire. Which, strictly speakang, seems like it's a separate issue from straight vs. queer, which is the area of human experience defined by the experience of desire as opposed to being desired. to my thinking, then, what's therefore missing from a queer perspective in the burlesque revival is the subjugation of lesbian sexuality as a performance for a male audience. the riot grrl movement, as i remember it, was more about a direct response to the violence inherent in male sexual desire and the various coping strategies for that. of course, i was pretty young at the time, and a lot of my experience of it was probably colored by both the reaction to Mia Zapata's rape and murder and the song 7 year bitch did about it which for a couple of my teenage summers was pretty ubiquitous, and also the fact that it was our scene unfortunately that pushed the whole riot grrl thing out of the underground with Hole's mainstream success. but that said, where burlesque revival stuff seems largely about enjoying being desired separate from one's own desire, the riot grrl position as I saw it was about the inseparability of desire and being desired and the affront to one's humanity that dealing with the sensuality of female bodies in isolation from the female libido is. On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:46 PM, amy king wrote: > So school me; I'm asking for it: http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/my-visceral-thought/ > > Best, > > Amy > > _______ > > > HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: > > http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:42:33 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Francis Raven Subject: A New Journal: The Short Movie Review: Please Submit! WITH URL: http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I completely forgot to include the URL in my announcement: http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ About The Short Movie Review (TSMR); Submissions The Short Movie Review will investigate short movies that are freely available online from a variety of perspectives: Marxist, capitalist, poetic, Freudian, straight, gay, engendered, naive, know-it-all. Email Submissions & Questions to: francisraven@gmail.com When submitting put the word =92submission=92 in the subject. I love short films. You can do so many things in them that in a longer film would be boring, too shocking, impossible to maintain, or way too random. They are like little windows into a world, a world where you may not actually want to live, but where it=92s pretty cool to visit. Short movies give film makers an opportunity to explore a little nugget of an idea that might not be able to sustain a feature length film; sometimes they are the MacGuffin without the chase scene and other times they are the chase scene without main characters. They are a main idea that has exploded. They are experiments in living. There is an obvious parallel to short stories, but while much critical work has been devoted to short stories not much ink has been spilled over short films. We here at TSMR hope to remedy this dire situation. In addition, we are living in the golden age of short films (and particularly movies that are freely available) due to the lower costs of production, the use of short films to lure audiences into bigger things or networks or pyramid schemes, and Youtube, Wholphin, and other websites specializing in short films. The TSMR will be released quarterly, but will be updated as content arrives. Please submit reviews to TSMR. Guidelines: the movie (which should 40 minutes or less) must be available online for free. Please include a link to the film. Otherwise, go for it. Short and long reviews are fine by us. We=92d love to see some poetry as reviews or drawings or diagrams or movies as reviews of short movies. Critical reviews assessing the genre as a whole will also be looked upon favorably. Be angry or submissive; positive or negative. Try not to be boring. Email Submissions & Questions to: francisraven@gmail.com http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ --=20 Francis Raven 2125 14th St. NW #332 Washington DC 20009 francisraven@gmail.com 202-621-7345 http://www.ravensaesthetica.com/ Some Stationary: http://somestationary.blogspot.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:26:48 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: More on Ai from the Poetry Foundation Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" , "Discussion of Women\\'s Poetry List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Via Tisa Bryant: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poet.html?id=80637 Still no major coverage but something... Best, Amy _______ HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ THE GURLESQUE - NOT ENOUGH GRRRL? http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/my-visceral-thought/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:41:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Francis Raven Subject: A New Journal: The Short Movie Review: Please Submit! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About The Short Movie Review (TSMR); Submissions The Short Movie Review will investigate short movies that are freely available online from a variety of perspectives: Marxist, capitalist, poetic, Freudian, straight, gay, engendered, naive, know-it-all. Email Submissions & Questions to: francisraven@gmail.com When submitting put the word =92submission=92 in the subject. I love short films. You can do so many things in them that in a longer film would be boring, too shocking, impossible to maintain, or way too random. They are like little windows into a world, a world where you may not actually want to live, but where it=92s pretty cool to visit. Short movies give film makers an opportunity to explore a little nugget of an idea that might not be able to sustain a feature length film; sometimes they are the MacGuffin without the chase scene and other times they are the chase scene without main characters. They are a main idea that has exploded. They are experiments in living. There is an obvious parallel to short stories, but while much critical work has been devoted to short stories not much ink has been spilled over short films. We here at TSMR hope to remedy this dire situation. In addition, we are living in the golden age of short films (and particularly movies that are freely available) due to the lower costs of production, the use of short films to lure audiences into bigger things or networks or pyramid schemes, and Youtube, Wholphin, and other websites specializing in short films. The TSMR will be released quarterly, but will be updated as content arrives. Please submit reviews to TSMR. Guidelines: the movie (which should 40 minutes or less) must be available online for free. Please include a link to the film. Otherwise, go for it. Short and long reviews are fine by us. We=92d love to see some poetry as reviews or drawings or diagrams or movies as reviews of short movies. Critical reviews assessing the genre as a whole will also be looked upon favorably. Be angry or submissive; positive or negative. Try not to be boring. Email Submissions & Questions to: francisraven@gmail.com ------- Francis Raven 2125 14th St. NW #332 Washington DC 20009 francisraven@gmail.com 202-621-7345 http://www.ravensaesthetica.com/ Some Stationary: http://somestationary.blogspot.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:36:03 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Rothenburg/Chirot/Outsider poetics/The Bourgeoisie? The Bohemian? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rothenburg's evolving outsider poetics seems almost t= Thank you, Dave:=0A=0ARothenburg's evolving outsider poetics seems almost t= oo perfect ( poetry, you know, it's an elitist thing, right?). Or does poet= ry belong to the people? We need a death & dying poetics, a domestic bliss = poetics, a poetics that can somehow reach the poor. Is that possible? We've= had instructors inside of=C2=A0 the penitentiary, anthologies that focused= on the poetry of prisoners. Jimmy Santiago Baca was once illiterate but=C2= =A0learned how to read and write while incarcerated. Maybe Rothenburg can l= ook in that direction. It should be possible to appeal to the educated read= er without including the standard list of mainstream poets and regardless t= he particular school of poetics. According to Jorie Graham, Poetry, the thi= ng itself, is an outside art form. But Graham is refering to the marketplac= e. In "Best American Poetry," 1990, she writes: =0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0 What is = especially interesting about=C2=A0poetry's current situation is that it is = pratically alone, among the art forms being practiced, in still viewing the= artist as essentially an outsider to the marketplace. =C2=A0=0A=0AIn addit= ion, consider: Is it still possible to shock the bourgeoisie with little mo= re than the naked word? What if Mom & Dad had dinner with a poet, someone n= ice, not a beaten down bohemian. What if Mom & Dad had dinner with ME or St= eve Dalichinsky ( assuming that Steve isn't too shocking )? A presentable, = well mannered poet such as myself could read some nice poetry, a little Rob= ert Bly, some Ted Kooser, but Mom & Dad would also have to sit still and he= ar the voices of Baraka, Spicer, Plath, Ginsberg, the Buk, or OOga-Booga ( = a Seidel book ). Dave, didn't you critique Bernstein for asking other poets= to be other than direct when they argued for a fair deal for Palestine? Ag= ain, Seidel=C2=A0refers to =C2=A0the West as "Oilchoholics," that "fist-fuc= king anus swallowing a fist." He adds, " you're wondering=C2=A0 why I talk = this way, so daintily." Good ole Sid, the ultimate man of leisure, a rich g= uy who gets IT.=0A=0ADidn't Freud say something about poetics envy?=C2=A0= =0A=0APerhaps an outsider ( an anti-bohemian/anti-bourgeoisie ) is simply t= he poet left out in the rain without an umbrella, a poet waiting for someon= e to invite his or her soaking words inside, into the warmth. =0A=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Again, I th= ank you, Dave=0Afor your thought provoking words, your insight, all that wi= sdom --=0A=0A=C2=A0... it never rains in hell, but every umbrella down here= is open.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 All the best, =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 poet_in_hell: Steve=0ADear Stephen--=0A=0Awhen i first read Je= rry's announcement on the Poetics List last September--that he is working o= n line on an=0Aenvisioned Anthology of Outsider Poetry--i also wondered--an= d do wonder=0Ayet--what an Outsider Poetry might be=E2=80=94=0A=0A=0A=0ADoe= s it mean a kind of extension into poetry of the examples drawn from=0A"Out= sider Art?"--(some of the examples you use here are among those=0Aused in t= he general ideas put forward as criteria for "Outsider Art")--is=0Ait =E2= =80=9Cimporting=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94from another =E2=80=9Cfield=E2=80=9D-in a = way that perhaps is like that of the=0ASlow Food Movement being included in= to the Slow Poetry Movement--??)=0A=0A=0A=0AOutsider in relation to what as= "Inside?"--=0A=0AHow might the "Outside" Poet and Poetry mini-Anthology di= ffer from Anthologies like=0Athe "Outlaw Bible of American Poetry" or--any = number of anthologies=0Apreviously assembled by Jerry, George Quasha, Richa= rd Alpert, Richard Kostelanetz and many others?--Or any example of a collec= tion of=0A"avant-garde" and "experimental" poetries?=0A=0A=0A=0ASince Jerry= has worked so long in so many areas of Poetry, i thought he might=0Ahave p= erhaps already some ideas as to his conceptions of what an Outsider Poetry= =0Ais--yet i have a feeling--this is just my own "intuition" really--i=0Aha= ve a feeling that part of what really sets this project apart is that the= =0Anature of the Outside and Outsider may emerge in at least some guises an= d that=0Athese will emerge as the projects moves along.=C2=A0 That to me is= the really beautiful=0Apart of the Anthology--that it is being assembled i= n "real time" and on=0Aline--one may follow it as it develops--and, more th= an that, besides finding=0Aexamples which might function as "answers," what= one really finds, to=0Ame at any rate, is the openness to a continual ques= tioning and finding, an=0Aopenness to the idea that this is not already a p= re conceived set of examples,=0Aprejudices, opinions, nor a trendy tip of t= he hat to any other movements=0Aetc--but truly is an ongoing investigation.= =0A=0A=0A=0AWhen Gertrude Stein, so the story goes, was on her dying bed--s= he looked up at=0Awhoever was present--and said--"What is the=0Aanswer?"--T= hen--laughing--she "answered" by saying--"What=0Ais the question?"=0A=0A=0A= =0AI think the nature of this project, or the way i understand it and work = with=0Ait, is to keep asking questions--interesting & useful questions that= as they emerge lead to further=0Aquestion, findings, researches and the de= velopment of new methods, techniques,=0Anew conceptions, as well as the re-= finding of older examples from around the=0Aworld which themselves ask ques= tions which are just as alive today as when=0Afirst asked--=0A=0A=0A=0AQues= tioning is something much absent in discussions of any kind today--what is= =0Areally wanted, for the most part, are examples, descriptions, categories= ,=0Ajargons, and ways to pigeon hole a poet or form of poetry.=C2=A0 This a= llows=0Afor the creation of new anthologies, new job descriptions for candi= dates for=0Asuch and such a position, opens much needed vacancies in the em= ployment world=0Aof today--To have the answers means also that a sense of "= order" is=0Acreated, in order to fix with in the orders hierarchies, steps = on the career=0Apath, ways to pad the resume and so forth.=C2=A0 Answers al= so give one the=0Asense that due to Order being established, it must be mai= ntained and various=0A"security measures taken,=E2=80=9D in order to protec= t the boundaries and members=0Aof such and such a grouping, such and such a= "movement"--to the point=0Awhere orders are in fact necessary to keep orde= r.=C2=A0 That is, a process of=0Aarranging a certain status quo which must = be kept by following the orders of=0Athe day vis a vis such and such an Aut= hority, Group and etc--=0A=0A=0A=0AWhen the announcement of the Anthology w= as first made, i had only=0Aquestions--and was amazed to find that they wer= e invited to appear at the Poets=0Aand Poetics mini-anthology in the making= of the Outsider Poetry and Poets--=0A=0Asince i can't give you an answer p= er se--here are the questions again, with the=0Alink where to find them.=0A= =0Ahopefully they may be of interest and use--not in answering, but in find= ing=0Aever more questions to ask--=0A=0A=0A=0ARather than the delineating o= f boundaries "in order" to demonstrate=0Awhat are the boundaries of Outside= r Poetry,--one finds bridges, links, trains=0Aof associations--with which t= o further investigate and think on these questions=0Are the Outsider Poetry= --=0A=0ANot Barriers--Bridges--Not Walls--but Windows--=0A=0A=0A=0AHere is = the response to the announcement--i hope it's useful & interesting--=0A=0A= =0A=0Ahttp://poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/2009/09/outsider-poems-mini-antho= logy-in.html=0A=0A> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:38:52 +0530=0A> From: skyplum= s@JUNO.COM=0A> Subject: Re: Chirot at Jerome Rothenberg's Poets & Poetics b= log=0A> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:26:16 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: 25 questions, #4... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Question # 4: Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other = poets who=20 read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:49:50 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Laura Wetherington Subject: textsound's special issue featuring Jon Cotner and Andy Fitch Comments: To: editors@textsound.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 March marks textsound's first feature issue. We're honored to share with you Jon Cotner and Andy Fitch's *Improvisations 2006-2010*. *Jon Cotner* and *Andy Fitch* are the authors of *Ten Walks/Two Talks * (Ugly Duckling Presse, 2010). Cotner and Fitch have performed their dialogic improvisations across the United States, as well as in Toronto and Berlin. Cotner lives in New York City. Fitch is an assistant professor in the University of Wyoming's MFA Program. Have a listen at www.textsound.org. ** ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:53:17 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: CA Conrad Subject: WE ARE 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Over a 7 year period the human body replaces all of its cells until -- 7 years later -- the body is completely new, a whole new body, a body which actually didn't exist 7 years ago. 7 years ago today we were not here as we are today. 7 years ago today when America invaded the sovereign nation of Iraq. Over a million people have been killed. Their bodies didn't make it here with us. So many people I'm never going to meet or see or know. I'm very sad today thinking about my new body, my luxury of a new body of cells over the past 7 years of war, 7 years of terrorizing people. This morning I went to the Kelly Writers House to hear Susan Howe give one of the finest Q&A's I've ever heard. And I almost asked her at the Q&A, "Susan, in your book THE EUROPE OF TRUSTS you write, 'Malice dominates the history of Power and Progress.' How do you feel about us stepping out of history today with today being the anniversary of the American invasion of Iraq?" But I didn't ask her that. She seemed so happy sitting there, and life is short, and here's this amazing elderly genius poet, and I thought, "Don't ask her that." So I didn't ask her that. Instead I asked her about her visit to Wallace Stevens's house, and how she had said that she couldn't believe THOSE poems came from THAT house, and I wanted her talk about HER poems being written where she writes them. Please tell us about the aura of space, is what I meant to say. There's so much responsibility that goes into being a citizen, but somehow we have had the trouble of the responsibility removed from us. And it's the darkest thing, that removal. I'm not saying THAT I KNOW and UNDERSTAND the new bodies around me in the anniversary of America bringing UNIMAGINABLE suffering and agony to Iraq. I'm not saying THAT I KNOW but I do know some of the bodies in my proximity and how they fair. A week ago my new next door neighbor left the apartment with his girlfriend and dog, and said, literally said, "Well we don't have cable installed yet, so we're going to the park." He seemed sad about going to the park. The girlfriend said, "Yeah, the cable man didn't show, what a drag." The dog was the only one who seemed happy. And then the cable man came, and now, every single day, all day long I hear the television whenever I walk by their door. Canned laughter is what I hear sometimes. They're watching sitcoms or something and they're not laughing, just the canned laughter. And the dog is so annoyed that the cable man came, I'm sure of it. I'll always remember them leaving to go to the park, this very healthy young couple with their dog because they couldn't watch the television. No, I'm not saying I understand what everyone's going through. Sometimes people watch a lot of television because they're depressed. But I'm not sure. And in Philadelphia we've been having Twitter Mobs (or some call them Flash Mobs), and part of me wants to say that I identify with these kids, today, on the anniversary of the American invasion of Iraq. Hundreds and hundreds of them meet up, and then each time something breaks loose and they begin beating on people, wrecking things, hundreds of them. And I want to say that I understand their anger. But I don't. I'm angry. I'm very angry. Every single day I'm angry. I'm living in a country that cares more about bombing people of color overseas and stealing their resources than putting kids through college. And the ad campaigns to make us FEEL OKAY like saying "MARCH IS AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH" because WE'RE SUCH GOOD PEOPLE! We're such good people, here, in America, today, on the anniversary of bombing where there are many people who still hear the bombs in the middle of the night, and sometimes it's a dream, and sometimes it's not, because it's still a war, it's still not entirely a dream. But I'M ANGRY AT THESE KIDS for scaring me on the bus the other day when I found myself in the middle of a Twitter Mob WHILE ON THE BUS and the kids banged their fists on the sides of the bus as we drove down the street through the chaos. And Frank Sherlock called me to see if I made it home safely, he's a very good friend. I want to be SO ANGRY at these kids because I would never want to hurt anyone, just anyone, just any stranger. But yet we're living in a country which does that. We drop bombs on people's houses. And the animals in the zoos. The zoo of Baghdad and the apartments, and, and, and, we have new bodies this year. There's never going to be a moment in this lifetime for us, THOSE OF US ALIVE NOW, IN AMERICA, PAYING TAXES, WHICH PURCHASE WAR, we will never be able to apologize enough to the people of Iraq, and we knew it. We knew it. We all kept saying we knew it, we knew that there were no WMD's, we knew it, everyone knew it. We kept telling one another days before the invasion, "I THINK THEY'RE LYING DON'T YOU THINK THEY'RE LYING YEAH I THINK SO TOO YEAH ME TOO THEY'RE LYING WE KNOW THEY'RE LYING EVERYONE KNOWS IT!" But it happened anyway, the bombing. The occupation. And now the genocide of HUNDREDS of gay man in Iraq as a direct result of the invasion and occupation, we are now responsible for this new genocide. Gay men tortured and murdered in Iraq. A year of genocide. A year at the end of seven years of American occupation. And we distract ourselves with LISTENING about the health care reform. Health care reform? What about the health of EVERYONE in Iraq? What about them? But we get to feel good. And it's AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH. And I'm not being mean, but that's fucked up to be saying MARCH IS AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH when America brings more need for bandages than any other country on the face of the planet right now, how do we do it? How do we get to feel this way? How? I'm so sad today. I'm not being mean, I'm sad. I'm an American citizen who has believed lies and now I know I will never vote Democrat again. Ever. There's too much responsibility behind giving killers your time and your vote. It costs so much. I feel that costs today. I'm sad. CAConrad -- PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:21:59 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: Re: Michael, who I never knew In-Reply-To: <1dec21ae1003221111r546bb8d3g96d168deb3604d5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Alan: Thank you so much for your beaitufl and moving piece. I know the book well--a classic-- what you write for myself is one of the examples of the Found=2C which is w= hat my own work is directly working with always- the Found=2C as you note--untraceable often=2C and for that very reason=2C = so freed of accrued and already-set associations wide open to your own--to = on'e s own=2C which are created in the direct=2C touched and held contact= =2C with the materials-- re your depression and death-- i have been clinically dead 4 times=2C another time experienced following a= truck accident in which my spine was shattered the first time=2C an "Near = Death Experience=2C" though at the time=2C such a subject was not very much= spoken of-- right now i am slated for a hip surgery next month=2C to be followed by yet= another broken back surgery--the doctors always say they have no idea how = i am alive let alone able to walk at all-- i suffered many years and stil have the experience of a near overwhelming v= oice inside me directing me to kil myself accompanied by various hallucinat= ory visions- five members my immediate family killed themselves in the last thirty years= --and sevral others attempted-- i carry a continual darkness some days which obliterates the brightest sun = light and burns like flames through the darkest nights- all of these things have made me love life all the more--each day no matter= what i more thankful than i can ever express to be alive in my experience=2C there is never a dull moment! to sit and see the passag= eoflight beam across a floor=2C among the dust motes and smoke swirls=2C wi= th the sounds inside or from outside coming in-- is of infinite variety and interest and spurs a million thoughts dreams rev= eries memories ideas for works and --a sense of being in what i call deep t= ime-- think how much has occurred with you just be finding this book!-- every instant such a plenitude it overflows and yet is also succeeded buy a= new instant which may be uncannily familiar--as=2C with the book=2C your o= wn forgotten memories voluntary and involuntarily arise and are seen heard = smelled felt experienced thought of in ways never to have happened to you b= efore-- i realize this al sounds perhaps trite=2C cliched=2C outworn as the hand of= a dead man one plays card with and even deals the "dead man's card " to--a= n event of my own "real life" which has been transposed into one of my "sto= ries" (in an issue of Otolith--) i apologize as the events themselves are not trite--the fault is with my wo= rds in essaying the expression-- i often think that one does not "die" completely as so much of others lives= inside oneself--by these i mean the presence of the ancestors for me is ve= ry powerful--and the thought of al those generations come--already my own c= hildren having children while my youngest is barely older than the grandchi= ld is- since i was very young i had a very powerful sense of the ancestors--i have= no idea why and it seems --one of those powerful events within one like a = geologic sense of being- sometimes down by the Lake i can feel the ancestors stirring and when i go = out into the woods i hear them moving about-- my mom recently was in Quebec City to visit my brother who lives there--and= they rented a car and drove far north to the rezervation where our family = originally came from=2C the area around there-- who knows how many tens of thousands of years they have been in this contin= ent=2C in that part of the world--and=2C gradually through time=2C expanded= al the way est over 1=2C800 miles in Canada and in areas of northen minnes= ota and wisconsin-- most of them were genocide--and the intermarried french-indians ethnically = cleansed=2C driven into the usa--my grandfather was the first of his family= since 1650 to be born outside of quebec=2C and the first of two generation= s not to intermarry with Indians--i took up the thread and blood myself and= married a Mohawk genocided--at one point by infected blankets given them when loaded onto fr= eight trains being shipped in to the night never to return=2C yet i feel th= ey never left=2C they wil always remain- so itia great honor to feel part of this continuous group of persons=2C as = strange to oneself as oneself is and also in other ways uncannily familiar- in this sense=2C death is only apart of an ongoing life that one fears to e= nd=2C to be final=2C yet which is not-- i dont want to "die" anymore than yourself-- yet--in one's work and in so many other ways as with the book you found=2C = one lives on-- as some "find" at another time for a person at once strange and familiar-- thank you again for the beauty of your letter- and always=2C for your work and example-- david-bc > Date: Mon=2C 22 Mar 2010 14:11:49 -0400 > From: muratnn@GMAIL.COM > Subject: Re: Michael=2C who I never knew > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > Dear Alan=2C >=20 > This is exactly how knowledge of certain kind=2C poetry=2C someone's visi= on gets > translated=2C through happenstance=2C distraction partial destruction and > occasional=2C precious momentary illuminations. Thank you for this wonder= ful > passage. More real than desperate attempts to institutionalize hierarchie= s. >=20 > All knowledge is built on fragments of other knowledge. >=20 > Ciao=2C >=20 > Murat >=20 >=20 > On Mon=2C Mar 22=2C 2010 at 4:36 AM=2C Alan Sondheim = wrote: >=20 > > Michael=2C who I never knew > > > > > > Michael Benedikt and George E. Wellwarth edited Modern French Theatre: = The > > Avant-Garde=2C Dada=2C and Surrealism. I recently bought a used copy of= the > > book=2C first edition. It might have been Benedikt's first book. There'= s an > > author's signature on the title page=2C and an inscription inside the f= ront > > cover: > > > > > > for Mother dear > > > > and F.F. > > > > with thanks for the right genes=2C > > > > Michael > > > > > > Michael Benedikt was born in 1935 and died in 2007. I didn't know him. > > There is something uncanny about the inscription. Michael Benedikt live= d > > 72 years. I think perhaps he gave this to his mother with a sense of > > pride=3B he was 29. I think to myself: He gave this book to his mother = and > > F.F.=2C perhaps a father. His mother and perhaps F.F. died=2C and Micha= el > > inherited. It would have been sad for the book to be returned to him=2C > > after a temporary journey of pride and happiness. And then Michael died > > and someone=2C perhaps a wife or other relative=2C sold or gave away so= me of > > his books=2C perhaps all of them=2C and this was one of them. And so Mo= dern > > French Theater ends up in Adam Tobin's book-store=2C coming from somewh= ere=2C > > somewhere unknown=2C perhaps untraceable=2C and I am reading and learni= ng a > > great deal=2C revisiting some old friends=2C playwrights within. I fear= death=2C > > death dominates me=3B I am constantly fighting off depression as best I= can. > > As we run out of money=2C depression and stress increase. And I think: = soon > > this book will be passed on=2C and I am less than a silent witness to i= ts > > passing. So perhaps this is the singing of a solitary and mournful note= =2C > > so that its passing will be remembered. And perhaps this will be forgot= ten > > as well. > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidel= ines > > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:46:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ryan Daley Subject: Re: A New Journal: The Short Movie Review: Please Submit! WITH URL: http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Francis, I'm interested in writing reviews of short films. Are there any online viewing resources that you particularly favor and recommend? Best, Ryan On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Francis Raven wrot= e: > I completely forgot to include the URL in my announcement: > http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ > http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ > > About The Short Movie Review (TSMR); Submissions > > The Short Movie Review will investigate short movies that are freely > available online from a variety of perspectives: Marxist, capitalist, > poetic, Freudian, straight, gay, engendered, naive, know-it-all. > > Email Submissions & Questions to: francisraven@gmail.com > When submitting put the word =92submission=92 in the subject. > > I love short films. You can do so many things in them that in a > longer film would be boring, too shocking, impossible to maintain, or > way too random. They are like little windows into a world, a world > where you may not actually want to live, but where it=92s pretty cool to > visit. Short movies give film makers an opportunity to explore a > little nugget of an idea that might not be able to sustain a feature > length film; sometimes they are the MacGuffin without the chase scene > and other times they are the chase scene without main characters. > They are a main idea that has exploded. They are experiments in > living. There is an obvious parallel to short stories, but while much > critical work has been devoted to short stories not much ink has been > spilled over short films. We here at TSMR hope to remedy this dire > situation. > > In addition, we are living in the golden age of short films (and > particularly movies that are freely available) due to the lower costs > of production, the use of short films to lure audiences into bigger > things or networks or pyramid schemes, and Youtube, Wholphin, and > other websites specializing in short films. > > The TSMR will be released quarterly, but will be updated as content > arrives. Please submit reviews to TSMR. Guidelines: the movie (which > should 40 minutes or less) must be available online for free. Please > include a link to the film. Otherwise, go for it. Short and long > reviews are fine by us. We=92d love to see some poetry as reviews or > drawings or diagrams or movies as reviews of short movies. Critical > reviews assessing the genre as a whole will also be looked upon > favorably. Be angry or submissive; positive or negative. Try not to > be boring. > > Email Submissions & Questions to: francisraven@gmail.com > > http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ > http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ > http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ > http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ > http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ > http://theshortmoviereview.wordpress.com/ > > > > -- > Francis Raven > 2125 14th St. NW #332 > Washington DC 20009 > francisraven@gmail.com > 202-621-7345 > http://www.ravensaesthetica.com/ > > Some Stationary: > http://somestationary.blogspot.com/ > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:08:44 -0400 Reply-To: halvard@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Write for the second, since the second includes the first. But I'd say "anyone" who reads it. Hal follow this link to The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye, my latest collection -- http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/14481250-chalk-editions Halvard Johnson ================ halvard@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > Question # 4: > > Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets > who > read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:22:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I don't understand the question; why is there a "should" here? Different people write for different reasons. I don't think there's much more to say... - Alan On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > Question # 4: > > Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets who > read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com == ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:28:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: John Cleary Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This poet writes for himself. Does truth require an audience? - John On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote: > I don't understand the question; why is there a "should" here? Different > people write for different reasons. I don't think there's much more to > say... > > - Alan > > > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > > Question # 4: >> >> Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets >> who >> read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> >> > > == > email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com > == > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:41:02 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Like Alan, i don't understand the "should"--other than in such "extenuating circumstances" as in cases of the coerced, of desperation, of fear or perhaps the obscurely shifted desire to "do the right thing" in some inwardly confused sense of "moral duty" or "moral suasion." Or--in the cases of propaganda and advertising. A Ruyssian artist writes that language is a fascism not becuase it silences or censros, but because it forces one to speak. Such would be the case of the "should" perhaps-- A writer writes for those who read, who in turn may read for those who do not read. A writer writes--for whom? Oneself and other strangers? I've made poems written for stones, tree, the air, a ray of light--without even the idea of a person involved-- In this sense one may write for those "illiterates" or "inanimates" who do not read yet understand and know the Unwritten-- "The hills know but do not tell" as Emily Dickinson writes-- On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote: > I don't understand the question; why is there a "should" here? Different > people write for different reasons. I don't think there's much more to > say... > > - Alan > > > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > > Question # 4: >> >> Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets >> who >> read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> >> > > == > email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com > == > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:08:32 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: Rothenburg/Chirot/Outsider poetics/The Bourgeoisie? The Bohemian? In-Reply-To: <365694.19788.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 there was a life magazine article about the rent-a-beatnik thing, wasn't there? I like the comments on the Rothenberg blog about cakes from flowershops Add zing to the special occasions of your acquaintances in Pune by sending our fantastic flowers and tasty cakes. Our expert team affords excellent customer service support for the delivery of our flowers and cakes to Pune. Our supreme delivery networks all over Pune, Same day delivery option to Pune and punctual delivery of flowers and cakes to Pune have helped us to be more proficient. Moreover sending flowers and cakes to Pune online with us is 100% secured. there are sandwiches on the flowershop site too The comments are in response to Christine Wertheim's post, "Litteral Poetics" which talks about tongues... -- All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:36:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: Michael, who I never knew In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thank you to all three for your bravery, strength, and honesty. On 3/23/10 6:21 PM, "David-Baptiste Chirot" wrote: > Dear Alan: > > Thank you so much for your beaitufl and moving piece. > I know the book well--a classic-- > what you write for myself is one of the examples of the Found, which is what > my own work is directly working with always- > the Found, as you note--untraceable often, and for that very reason, so freed > of accrued and already-set associations wide open to your own--to on'e s own, > which are created in the direct, touched and held contact, with the > materials-- > re your depression and death-- > i have been clinically dead 4 times, another time experienced following a > truck accident in which my spine was shattered the first time, an "Near Death > Experience," though at the time, such a subject was not very much spoken of-- > right now i am slated for a hip surgery next month, to be followed by yet > another broken back surgery--the doctors always say they have no idea how i am > alive let alone able to walk at all-- > i suffered many years and stil have the experience of a near overwhelming > voice inside me directing me to kil myself accompanied by various > hallucinatory visions- > five members my immediate family killed themselves in the last thirty > years--and sevral others attempted-- > i carry a continual darkness some days which obliterates the brightest sun > light and burns like flames through the darkest nights- > all of these things have made me love life all the more--each day no matter > what i more thankful than i can ever express to be alive > in my experience, there is never a dull moment! to sit and see the > passageoflight beam across a floor, among the dust motes and smoke swirls, > with the sounds inside or from outside coming in-- > is of infinite variety and interest and spurs a million thoughts dreams > reveries memories ideas for works and --a sense of being in what i call deep > time-- > think how much has occurred with you just be finding this book!-- > every instant such a plenitude it overflows and yet is also succeeded buy a > new instant which may be uncannily familiar--as, with the book, your own > forgotten memories voluntary and involuntarily arise and are seen heard > smelled felt experienced thought of in ways never to have happened to you > before-- > i realize this al sounds perhaps trite, cliched, outworn as the hand of a dead > man one plays card with and even deals the "dead man's card " to--an event of > my own "real life" which has been transposed into one of my "stories" (in an > issue of Otolith--) > i apologize as the events themselves are not trite--the fault is with my words > in essaying the expression-- > i often think that one does not "die" completely as so much of others lives > inside oneself--by these i mean the presence of the ancestors for me is very > powerful--and the thought of al those generations come--already my own > children having children while my youngest is barely older than the grandchild > is- > since i was very young i had a very powerful sense of the ancestors--i have no > idea why and it seems --one of those powerful events within one like a > geologic sense of being- > sometimes down by the Lake i can feel the ancestors stirring and when i go out > into the woods i hear them moving about-- > my mom recently was in Quebec City to visit my brother who lives there--and > they rented a car and drove far north to the rezervation where our family > originally came from, the area around there-- > who knows how many tens of thousands of years they have been in this > continent, in that part of the world--and, gradually through time, expanded al > the way est over 1,800 miles in Canada and in areas of northen minnesota and > wisconsin-- > most of them were genocide--and the intermarried french-indians ethnically > cleansed, driven into the usa--my grandfather was the first of his family > since 1650 to be born outside of quebec, and the first of two generations not > to intermarry with Indians--i took up the thread and blood myself and married > a Mohawk > genocided--at one point by infected blankets given them when loaded onto > freight trains being shipped in to the night never to return, yet i feel they > never left, they wil always remain- > so itia great honor to feel part of this continuous group of persons, as > strange to oneself as oneself is and also in other ways uncannily familiar- > in this sense, death is only apart of an ongoing life that one fears to end, > to be final, yet which is not-- > i dont want to "die" anymore than yourself-- > yet--in one's work and in so many other ways as with the book you found, one > lives on-- > > as some "find" at another time for a person at once strange and familiar-- > thank you again for the beauty of your letter- > and always, for your work and example-- > david-bc > > >> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:11:49 -0400 >> From: muratnn@GMAIL.COM >> Subject: Re: Michael, who I never knew >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >> >> Dear Alan, >> >> This is exactly how knowledge of certain kind, poetry, someone's vision gets >> translated, through happenstance, distraction partial destruction and >> occasional, precious momentary illuminations. Thank you for this wonderful >> passage. More real than desperate attempts to institutionalize hierarchies. >> >> All knowledge is built on fragments of other knowledge. >> >> Ciao, >> >> Murat >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote: >> >>> Michael, who I never knew >>> >>> >>> Michael Benedikt and George E. Wellwarth edited Modern French Theatre: The >>> Avant-Garde, Dada, and Surrealism. I recently bought a used copy of the >>> book, first edition. It might have been Benedikt's first book. There's an >>> author's signature on the title page, and an inscription inside the front >>> cover: >>> >>> >>> for Mother dear >>> >>> and F.F. >>> >>> with thanks for the right genes, >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> Michael Benedikt was born in 1935 and died in 2007. I didn't know him. >>> There is something uncanny about the inscription. Michael Benedikt lived >>> 72 years. I think perhaps he gave this to his mother with a sense of >>> pride; he was 29. I think to myself: He gave this book to his mother and >>> F.F., perhaps a father. His mother and perhaps F.F. died, and Michael >>> inherited. It would have been sad for the book to be returned to him, >>> after a temporary journey of pride and happiness. And then Michael died >>> and someone, perhaps a wife or other relative, sold or gave away some of >>> his books, perhaps all of them, and this was one of them. And so Modern >>> French Theater ends up in Adam Tobin's book-store, coming from somewhere, >>> somewhere unknown, perhaps untraceable, and I am reading and learning a >>> great deal, revisiting some old friends, playwrights within. I fear death, >>> death dominates me; I am constantly fighting off depression as best I can. >>> As we run out of money, depression and stress increase. And I think: soon >>> this book will be passed on, and I am less than a silent witness to its >>> passing. So perhaps this is the singing of a solitary and mournful note, >>> so that its passing will be remembered. And perhaps this will be forgotten >>> as well. >>> >>> ================================== >>> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines >>> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >>> >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & >> sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL: > en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:59:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jon Cotner Subject: textsound's new issue: "Improvisations 2006-2010" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain textsound's editors have launched the new issue. It's called "Improvisati= ons 2006-2010," and=20 it features 8+ hours of solo and collaborative pieces by me and Andy Fitc= h. Here's a link: http://textsound.org/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:26:08 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: George Bowering Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... Comments: To: halvard@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am just here to say that Gerald's questions are really good ones. gb On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:08 AM, Halvard Johnson wrote: > Write for the second, since the second includes the first. > But I'd say "anyone" who reads it. > > Hal > > follow this link to The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye, my latest > collection -- > > http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/14481250-chalk-editions > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard@gmail.com > http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Gerald Schwartz > wrote: > >> Question # 4: >> >> Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for >> other poets >> who >> read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/ > welcome.html George Harry Bowering Younger than W.P. Kinsella ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:02:57 -0400 Reply-To: halvard@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... Comments: To: George Bowering In-Reply-To: <215AC957-C42F-429F-8F87-F87DC21F5635@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But are you younger than springtime? Hal follow this link to The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye, my latest collection -- http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/14481250-chalk-editions Halvard Johnson ================ halvard@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:26 PM, George Bowering wrote: > I am just here to say that Gerald's questions > are really good ones. > > gb > > > On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:08 AM, Halvard Johnson wrote: > > Write for the second, since the second includes the first. > But I'd say "anyone" who reads it. > > Hal > > follow this link to The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye, my latest > collection -- > > http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/14481250-chalk-editions > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard@gmail.com > http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Gerald Schwartz >wrote: > > Question # 4: > > Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets > who > read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > George Harry Bowering > > Younger than W.P. Kinsella > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:46:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Allan Revich Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Schwartz Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:26 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: 25 questions, #4... Question # 4: Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets who read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:51:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Seaman Subject: Re: Would you buy art? A poem? In-Reply-To: <4B9E76BD.7090808@umn.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The poem is free. You pay to have it delivered. David David W. Seaman, Ph.D. http://personal.georgiasouthern.edu/~dseaman/Welcome.html Follow my Twitter poetry at dseaman40 YouTube video of my Venice Biennale poem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ5bOuJBN_k On Monday, March 15, 2010, at 02:04PM, "Maria Damon" wrote: >i sometimes pay street people $1 for a poem if they have a sign offering >that. >i was going to pay Bernadette Mayer for a poem for a conference a few >years ago (she had a standing offer out for topical poems for pay) but i >didn't get it together. >in 1977 i paid $2 for Allen Ginsberg to write a haiku for me for a >Naropa benefit. I wish i could find that haiku now. Because i was >standing with my friend Julia Sagebien, whom he knew, i know the phrase >"rosy dyke" was in it. > >amy king wrote: >> Would you pay for a poem? Possible? Worth it? What's art worth? Is poetry art? Is capitalism art? Is there a support-artists culture? >> >> Here - http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/paid-for-poem/ >> >> Thanks, >> >> Amy >> >> _______ >> >> >> HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: >> >> http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ >> >> >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> > >================================== >The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:05:46 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alan, David, Here is a quote from my review of Ed Foster's book of poems *What He Ought To Know*: "For Ed Foster. Spicer=92s comment, =93no one listens to poetry,=94 is at t= he heart of a poetic revolution. He transforms this existential condition into Walter Benjamin=92s suggestion that poetry listens to no one: =93Art... pos= its man=92s physical and spiritual existence, but in none of its works is it concerned with his response. No poem is intended for the reader, no picture for the beholder, no symphony for the listener.=94 This quotation appears i= n Foster=92s poem, =93Poetry Has Nothing To Do With Politics.=94 More than a = denial of politics, the idea in the title is an assertion of the independent, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry." Ciao, Murat On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, David Chirot wrot= e: > Like Alan, i don't understand the "should"--other than in such "extenuati= ng > circumstances" as in cases of the coerced, of desperation, of fear or > perhaps the obscurely shifted desire to "do the right thing" in some > inwardly confused sense of "moral duty" or "moral suasion." > > Or--in the cases of propaganda and advertising. > > A Ruyssian artist writes that language is a fascism not becuase it silenc= es > or censros, but because it forces one to speak. > > Such would be the case of the "should" perhaps-- > > A writer writes for those who read, who in turn may read for those who do > not read. > > A writer writes--for whom? Oneself and other strangers? > > I've made poems written for stones, tree, the air, a ray of light--withou= t > even the idea of a person involved-- > > In this sense one may write for those "illiterates" or "inanimates" who = do > not read yet understand and know the Unwritten-- > > > > "The hills know but do not tell" as Emily Dickinson writes-- > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote= : > > > I don't understand the question; why is there a "should" here? Differen= t > > people write for different reasons. I don't think there's much more to > > say... > > > > - Alan > > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > > > > Question # 4: > >> > >> Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other > poets > >> who > >> read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? > >> > >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > >> > >> > >> > > > > =3D=3D > > email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > > webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com > > =3D=3D > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines > > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:36:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nicholas Ravnikar Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: <007401cacb93$21459600$63d0c200$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Notice that Gerald (whom I don't know but have just called by first name) makes the caveat: "Should a poet, *if confronted with a choice*, write a piece for other poets who read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it?" (emphasis mine) If I understand the question correctly, then all the previous comments certainly apply to what we might call its "weak version" (without caveat). People probably do generally just write for themselves and their own (private) reasons. That's the trouble with intentionality (in the broad sense) and part of the three F's of lit crit -- fun, fodder and folly. But *if confronted with a choice* implies that the individual may be unconscious of the audiences that they're writing to prior to knowing that such a choice can be made. When one can hold a mental state like [shall I write poem/s (Px) for audience of poets (Ap), or write poem/s (Pn) for the set of all readers (Ar)], it is an ethical choice and thus demands a "should" iff you think people who write poems can choose to write poem *for* particular audiences to read -- again, the intentionality problem -- and whether you think acts of reading are holistic as regards access to the intentional attitudes of the author (which may change with each given reader-instance, and possibly even every time slice). For my part, I'd say that the answer would requires three individuated premises at least: (a.) whether or not the mental states I attempted to describe above can make any sense as regards writing a poem (or anything else for that matter); and (b). what conditions of satisfaction supervene on the mental representations POEM/S, POET/S, AUDIENCE and READERS in the cases of all possible people who might write poems for either other poets or the set of all possible readers. If these questions don't make any sense to ask, then there's no point in asking the ethical question, because we won't have a grounds for mental causation. Unless, again, we think the set of all possible readers have an atomistic disposition in their access toward the intentional attitudes of the author, or that that authors never can possibly write for anything. I think that the answer to the ethical question depends on what stage of their development in writing poems the writer in question is at, as well as what goals that individual has for their writing. In either case, career decisions for the immediate and what winds up anthologized or otherwise preserved are two separate things, as are readers' mental operations and experience of the piece(s) in question. But the question itself "Should a poet..." implies that one formulate (constantly) the ethic, continue to wrestle with the question. If we have an answer that we refuse to budge, what texts do we then deny existence? And what consequence lies in that? I also want to point out, for whatever it's worth, that the names seem to suggest this conversation is male-dominated. What importance, if any, does that bear in considering the question? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Allan Revich wrote: > Yes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On > Behalf Of Gerald Schwartz > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:26 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: 25 questions, #4... > > Question # 4: > > Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets > who > read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:42:09 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Re: 25 questions: question # 3... In-Reply-To: <68F8A4B1C55B4DC2AB95D55E04E7821B@KayPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii it's a quantity/ quality thing. some very prolific poets are not terribly consistent. Creeley had his ruts. The Buk was often simply drunk, gazing at his navel, but stuck at the typwriter. No. Because not everyone is great. Especially now. Consistent greatness belongs to past, coherent cultures. Ashbery is consisent, but only great, or near great when he gets off a good long poem and avoids the same old goofiness. Frederick Seidel started out very good in a R Lowell sort of way and has become damn near great whenever he does poem. ________________________________ From: Gerald Schwartz To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 9:47:43 AM Subject: 25 questions: question # 3... Question # 3: If a poet can write one or two or more great works of poetry why cannot all of his or her works be great? G. E. Schwartz ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:00:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Patrick F. Durgin" Subject: David Hadbawnik on Diane di Prima MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guest-blogger David Hadbawnik's post on Diane di Prima's RAIN FUR is the latest in the series of "Previews & Supplements" of/to the Kenning Anthology of Poets Theater 1945-1985 at www.kenningeditions.com Take a look also at Don Share's recent post on V.R. "Bunny" Lang. Future guest-bloggers include Laura Elrick and Rodrigo Toscano, Peter O'Leary, and Aldon Nielsen. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:30:09 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: the ottawa small press book fair, june 26 span-o (the small press action network - ottawa) presents: the ottawa small press book fair spring 2010 edition will be happening Saturday, June 26, 2010 in room 203 of the Jack Purcell Community Centre (on Elgin, at 320 Jack Purcell Lane). contact rob at az421@freenet.carleton.ca to sign up for a table, etc. "once upon a time, way way back in October 1994, rob mclennan & James Spyker invented a two-day event called the ottawa small press book fair, and held the first one at the National Archives of Canada..." Spyker moved to Toronto soon after the first one, but the fair continues, thanks in part to the help of generous volunteers, various writers and publishers, and the public for coming out to participate with alla their love and their dollars. General info:the ottawa small press book fair noon to 5pm (opens at 11:00 for exhibitors) admission free to the public. $20 for exhibitors, full tables $10 for half-tables (payable to rob mclennan, c/o 858 Somerset St W, main floor, Ottawa Ontario K1R 6R7). note: for the sake of increased demand, we are now offering half tables. for catalog, exhibitors should send (on paper, not email name of press, address, email, web address, contact person, type of publications, list of publications (with price), if submissions are being considered & any other pertinent info, including upcoming ottawa-area events (if any). & don't forget the reading, usually held the night before at The Carleton Tavern! also, due to the increased demand for table space, exhibitors are asked to confirm far earlier than usual. i.e. -- before, say, the day of the fair.the fair usually contains exhibitors with poetry books, novels, cookbooks, posters, t-shirts, graphic novels, comic books, magazines, scraps of paper, gum-ball machines with poems, 2x4s with text, etc, including (at previous events) Bywords, Dusty Owl, Chaudiere Books, above/ground press, Room 302 Books, The Puritan, The Ottawa Arts Review, Buschek Books, The Grunge Papers, Broken Jaw Press, BookThug, Proper Tales Press, and others. happens twice a year, founded in 1994 by rob mclennan & James Spyker. now run by rob mclennan thru span-o.questions, az421@freenet.carleton.ca free things can be mailed for fair distribution to the same address. we will not be selling things for folk who cant make it, sorry. also, always looking for volunteers to poster, move tables, that sort of thing. let me know if anyone able to do anything. thanks. for more information, bother rob mclennan.if you're able/willing to distribute posters/fliers for the fair, send me an email at az421@freenet.carleton.ca http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/2010/03/ottawa-small-press-book-fair-spring.html -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:07:25 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: Rothenburg/Chirot/Outsider poetics/The Bourgeoisie? The Bohemian? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes ted joans a dear friend and "outsider" poet did rent-a beatnik in late 50's early 60's also the fanmous rent parties as well now maybe rent-a-nudnik or a laureate or a academic On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:08:32 -0700 Catherine Daly writes: > there was a life magazine article about the rent-a-beatnik thing, > wasn't there? > > I like the comments on the Rothenberg blog about cakes from > flowershops > > Add zing to the special occasions of your acquaintances in Pune by > sending our fantastic flowers and tasty cakes. Our expert team > affords > excellent customer service support for the delivery of our flowers > and > cakes to Pune. Our supreme delivery networks all over Pune, Same > day > delivery option to Pune and punctual delivery of flowers and cakes > to > Pune have helped us to be more proficient. Moreover sending flowers > and cakes to Pune online with us is 100% secured. > > there are sandwiches on the flowershop site too > > The comments are in response to Christine Wertheim's post, > "Litteral > Poetics" which talks about tongues... > > -- > All best, > Catherine Daly > c.a.b.daly@gmail.com > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:08:50 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Riot Grrrl, Burlesque Gurlesque, Describing / "Outlining" / defining Poetries, Queer / Queering, What's a group?, What's in a name? What's in a book?, etc Comments: To: "Discussion of Women\\'s Poetry List" , "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The more I read of how this book came to be (I started with the Gurlesque a= nthology first), the more invested I become. My opinions are taking shape,= and yet, only a few, especially Danielle Pafunda primarily, join me in dis= cussing what is beginning to feel like "my issue" -- I invite you to join = the discussion (to whet your interest, my last response, from the comments = thread, to Danielle is pasted below) -- http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/0= 3/22/my-visceral-thought/ Thanks, Amy Good morning, Danielle! Okay, I=E2=80= =99m going to try to make my contention clearer. Let=E2=80=99s start with = a Glenum quote from Johannes blog: =E2=80=9CAnd Riot Grrr. Think zombified= Courtney Love in her babydoll nightie, who somehow managed able to make fe= male nudity threatening and aggressive rather than erotic.=E2=80=9D Two a= necdotes now & then my explanation in relation to the Gurlesque anthology: = I loved Love=E2=80=99s music. Once, I was at one of her shows, pretty inti= mate, maybe a hundred people or so. (Drew Barrymore was even there, backstage, taking care of F= rancis Bean) Love rocked out; she spoke aggressively, wore her babydoll dr= ess, combat boots, said lots of pro-women things, etc. Late in the show, s= he decided to stage dive, just like any guy singer would who could feel the= energy from the crowd. But this crowd, especially the pit-as-usual, was m= ore than half guys. And when she got carried across that pit, those men be= gan ripping her clothes, feeling her up, etc. It was all security could do= to get her back, a total struggle. Onstage again, she was pissed, frustra= ted, and could only scream into the mic angrily, =E2=80=9CI test every crow= d in every city, and you FAILED!=E2=80=9D and stormed off stage. For all o= f her aggression, all of her posturing, all of her proclamations, her nudit= y was *not* threatening, as Glenum claims; she remained most certainly an e= rotic object to grab and fuck and disrespect. I've never seen a man experie= nce a stage dive even remotely similar. Moving on to Tribe 8, Riot Grrrl band ma= de up of all openly-queer women. This was one of the first shows to shock = me. These women got on stage, they had hot bods that fit =E2=80=98sexy=E2= =80=99 stereotypes. Several of them took off their shirts and began rockin= g out. Many of the men didn=E2=80=99t know what the fuck to do. They just= gaped, though some got into the music, moshing a bit, especially as the sh= ock wore off and the show went on. More women were in the pit than usual t= oo. But the initial problem for the men and those of us attuned to seeing = women through the male gaze, despite the hardcore energy of the music (whic= h is what we presumably paid for), was that these women became grotesque, t= hey were parodies incarnate because these were women=E2=80=99s bodies with = true bare breasts, those sexy orbs (the site of symbolic sex/sexiness), att= ached to real monsters: women who were publicly queer and therefore by def= ault anomalies, performing this killer music but not as a site for masturbation or fucking= . They were truly threatening, scary and not to be fucked with. Not one g= uy tried to touch them, though I=E2=80=99m sure a few had trouble processin= g/reconciling that female nudity with being there to rock out. Glenum and = Greenberg say they=E2=80=99re =E2=80=9Cdescribing what they=E2=80=99ve seen= =E2=80=9D, but based on the anthology, they seem to have only seen hetero-w= omen performing gender in grotesque/hybrid/paradoxical ways. Even if they = didn=E2=80=99t try to seek out the work of queer women, I know that Glenum = is aware of Dodie Bellamy=E2=80=99s poetry, which would lead one to imagine= that, even if they didn=E2=80=99t include Bellamy=E2=80=99s work, they wou= ld have made a conscious attempt to seek out and include work by queer-iden= tified women that includes representations/perspectives of queer women, esp= ecially as sites of resistance /grotesqueness / parody =E2=80=93 not just h= etero-women and girls in the making. The =E2=80=9Cqueer woman=E2=80=9D certainly falls under the category of =E2=80=9Crepresentati= ons of women=E2=80=9D in the public eye that Glenum and Greenberg define th= e anthology by. To omit any work of this sort from this anthology is not on= ly a glaring omission, it=E2=80=99s exclusionary and does a disservice to t= he project of the Gurlesque; the anthology narrows the Gurlesque at great c= ost. Considering that the kind of performance the editors describe has lon= g been the staple, almost inherently necessary work of a queer woman as soo= n as she owns her queerness out loud, it=E2=80=99s shocking to exclude any = work by those women. I mean, Glenum founds the basis of her definition on = Judith Butler, who obviously =E2=80=9Cdescribed=E2=80=9D gender as performa= nce =E2=80=93 & it=E2=80=99s no coincidence that the first theorist to publ= icly introduce that concept was a lesbian. To make a poor parallel, this = anthology would be akin to editing an anthology of Experimental American Po= etries and only including selections by Language Poets or Black Mountain poets. You can say it=E2=80=99s =E2=80= =9Cdescriptive=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Conly=E2=80=9D what you =E2=80=9Cnotice= d=E2=80=9D all you want, but the editors of such an anthology must have bee= n wearing blinders if that=E2=80=99s all they include. I remain frustrated = because the more I read from discussions online, the more I see that Glenum= keeps conjuring =E2=80=9Cqueerness=E2=80=9D and Greenberg claims to have = =E2=80=9Ccoined=E2=80=9D the term =E2=80=9CGurlesque=E2=80=9D while also al= igning it with Riot Grrrl, but to see no inclusion of the queer roots of su= ch performance, to not acknowledge the ongoing work of confounding the noti= on of =E2=80=9Cwoman=E2=80=9D via queer perversion / queer women=E2=80=99s = burlesque =E2=80=93 gurlesque is incredible. They may as well mark the ex= clusiveness of this project as defined/narrowed through this anthology and = say =E2=80=9Cqueering the hetero-woman and girl concept by hetero-women=E2= =80=9D, which really only smacks of efforts to subvert, not =E2=80=9Cqueer= =E2=80=9D when you don=E2=80=99t actually include the queer.=20 Just one more note and I=E2=80=99ll stop, let my frustration go the way o= f the mostly-silence on this issue: A whole lot happens when a queer woman= frustrates the male gaze that inspires a very different awareness, which e= merges over time for queer women. This awareness births ideas and performa= nces that are certainly co-opted and appropriated by hetero-women, and that= =E2=80=99s absolutely fine. From the most basic of signifiers like dykes w= earing combat boots and punking out/shearing their hair to larger behaviors= that I will not go into right now, we have created and given permissions t= hat may not have happened for a long time for straight women. I=E2=80=99m = not trying to own all of the subversive stuff straight women have tried on = or done for themselves, at all. But I haven=E2=80=99t read anything in all= of Glenum=E2=80=99s and Greenberg=E2=80=99s descriptions that queer women = as poets, performers, mothers, etc, haven=E2=80=99t also been doing/dealing= with and adding to the conversation/culture. Just yesterday, a guy didn=E2=80=99t like what I h= ad to say about Bukowski on a friggin=E2=80=99 throw-away Facebook post and= , knowing I=E2=80=99m queer, told me to get my =E2=80=9Chead out of my cunt= =E2=80=9D, made lewd claims about my relations with my =E2=80=9Cpartner=E2= =80=9D (his quotes) in an effort to delegitimize my relationship, and other= shit =E2=80=93 and that was only one tiny fraction of my experience with m= en reacting to the queer grotesque monster woman that I am daily. So yes, = the queer existence does have a leg up experientially when it comes to unde= rstanding what it means to perform for that male gaze while simultaneously = and paradoxically excising one=E2=80=99s self from it just by default of pr= imarily loving and being for and in relation to women =E2=80=93 and that ki= nd of performance certainly does make its way into queer women=E2=80=99s po= etry. I just can=E2=80=99t believe these editors, two smart well-versed an= d theoretically-inclined women, didn=E2=80=99t come across any writing that fit that bill or give a single nod to it, though they unabashedly hav= e no problem referencing the type of work queer women have historically don= e and continue to do. Here, have some poems by Julian Brolaski and tell m= e how these don=E2=80=99t fit the Gurlesque - http://chax.org/eoagh/issue3/= issuethree/brolaski.html Or Brenda Iijima and Stacy Szymaszek -- http://cha= x.org/eoagh/issue3/issuethree/bracyiimaszek.html Or any number of queer poe= ts I don=E2=80=99t have time right now to sift through but would have if I = were an editor of an anthology such as this=E2=80=A6 Sorry to be insistent;= I=E2=80=99m still just emotional and pissed. But moreover, I appreciate y= our bravery and how constructively you continue to engage me on this matter= , Danielle =E2=80=93 I know you=E2=80=99re tons busy! I think you hit the= nail on the head in your efforts in the last comment to note / outline wha= t you see me reacting to. I wonder if others who see it will speak up (qui= te a few have backchannled, as noted), or if those involved will acknowledge this gap. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:23:18 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: WE ARE 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit boy do i wish after eaah 7 years my body feels completely OLD On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:53:17 -0400 CA Conrad writes: > Over a 7 year period the human body replaces all of its cells until > -- > 7 years later -- the body is completely new, a whole new body, a > body > which actually didn't exist 7 years ago. 7 years ago today we were > not here as we are today. 7 years ago today when America invaded > the > sovereign nation of Iraq. Over a million people have been killed. > Their bodies didn't make it here with us. So many people I'm never > going to meet or see or know. I'm very sad today thinking about my > new body, my luxury of a new body of cells over the past 7 years of > war, 7 years of terrorizing people. This morning I went to the > Kelly > Writers House to hear Susan Howe give one of the finest Q&A's I've > ever heard. And I almost asked her at the Q&A, "Susan, in your > book > THE EUROPE OF TRUSTS you write, 'Malice dominates the history of > Power > and Progress.' How do you feel about us stepping out of history > today > with today being the anniversary of the American invasion of Iraq?" > But I didn't ask her that. She seemed so happy sitting there, and > life is short, and here's this amazing elderly genius poet, and I > thought, "Don't ask her that." So I didn't ask her that. Instead > I > asked her about her visit to Wallace Stevens's house, and how she > had > said that she couldn't believe THOSE poems came from THAT house, and > I > wanted her talk about HER poems being written where she writes > them. > Please tell us about the aura of space, is what I meant to say. > > There's so much responsibility that goes into being a citizen, but > somehow we have had the trouble of the responsibility removed from > us. > And it's the darkest thing, that removal. I'm not saying THAT I > KNOW > and UNDERSTAND the new bodies around me in the anniversary of > America > bringing UNIMAGINABLE suffering and agony to Iraq. I'm not saying > I KNOW but I do know some of the bodies in my proximity and how > they fair. A week ago my new next door neighbor left the apartment > with his girlfriend and dog, and said, literally said, "Well we > don't > have cable installed yet, so we're going to the park." He seemed > sad > about going to the park. The girlfriend said, "Yeah, the cable man > didn't show, what a drag." The dog was the only one who seemed > happy. > And then the cable man came, and now, every single day, all day > long > I hear the television whenever I walk by their door. Canned > laughter > is what I hear sometimes. They're watching sitcoms or something > and > they're not laughing, just the canned laughter. And the dog is so > annoyed that the cable man came, I'm sure of it. I'll always > remember > them leaving to go to the park, this very healthy young couple with > their dog because they couldn't watch the television. > > No, I'm not saying I understand what everyone's going through. > Sometimes people watch a lot of television because they're > depressed. > But I'm not sure. And in Philadelphia we've been having Twitter > Mobs > (or some call them Flash Mobs), and part of me wants to say that I > identify with these kids, today, on the anniversary of the American > invasion of Iraq. Hundreds and hundreds of them meet up, and then > each time something breaks loose and they begin beating on people, > wrecking things, hundreds of them. And I want to say that I > understand their anger. But I don't. I'm angry. I'm very angry. > Every single day I'm angry. I'm living in a country that cares > more > about bombing people of color overseas and stealing their resources > than putting kids through college. And the ad campaigns to make us > FEEL OKAY like saying "MARCH IS AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH" because > WE'RE SUCH GOOD PEOPLE! We're such good people, here, in America, > today, on the anniversary of bombing where there are many people > who > still hear the bombs in the middle of the night, and sometimes it's > a > dream, and sometimes it's not, because it's still a war, it's still > not entirely a dream. But I'M ANGRY AT THESE KIDS for scaring me > on > the bus the other day when I found myself in the middle of a > Twitter > Mob WHILE ON THE BUS and the kids banged their fists on the sides > of > the bus as we drove down the street through the chaos. And Frank > Sherlock called me to see if I made it home safely, he's a very > good > friend. I want to be SO ANGRY at these kids because I would never > want to hurt anyone, just anyone, just any stranger. But yet we're > living in a country which does that. We drop bombs on people's > houses. And the animals in the zoos. The zoo of Baghdad and the > apartments, and, and, and, we have new bodies this year. > > There's never going to be a moment in this lifetime for us, THOSE > OF > US ALIVE NOW, IN AMERICA, PAYING TAXES, WHICH PURCHASE WAR, we will > never be able to apologize enough to the people of Iraq, and we > knew > it. We knew it. We all kept saying we knew it, we knew that there > were no WMD's, we knew it, everyone knew it. We kept telling one > another days before the invasion, "I THINK THEY'RE LYING DON'T YOU > THINK THEY'RE LYING YEAH I THINK SO TOO YEAH ME TOO THEY'RE LYING > WE > KNOW THEY'RE LYING EVERYONE KNOWS IT!" But it happened anyway, the > bombing. The occupation. And now the genocide of HUNDREDS of gay > man > in Iraq as a direct result of the invasion and occupation, we are > now > responsible for this new genocide. Gay men tortured and murdered > in > Iraq. A year of genocide. A year at the end of seven years of > American occupation. And we distract ourselves with LISTENING > about > the health care reform. Health care reform? What about the health > of > EVERYONE in Iraq? What about them? But we get to feel good. And > it's AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH. And I'm not being mean, but that's > fucked up to be saying MARCH IS AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH when > America > brings more need for bandages than any other country on the face of > the planet right now, how do we do it? How do we get to feel this > way? How? I'm so sad today. I'm not being mean, I'm sad. I'm an > American citizen who has believed lies and now I know I will never > vote Democrat again. Ever. There's too much responsibility behind > giving killers your time and your vote. It costs so much. I feel > that costs today. I'm sad. > > CAConrad > > -- > PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com > > THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:49:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Kirschenbaum Subject: rent-a-beatnik and voice photographer fred mcdarrah In-Reply-To: <20100325.130726.2380.19.skyplums@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was Village Voice photographer Fred McDarrah who conceived of the rent-a-beatnik idea and sent friends like Joans out to be rented. McDarrah's the photographer responsible for many iconic images of the day, including Kerouac during a rdg, arm's stretched out like Jesus; Dylan sitting on a Sheridan Square bench and saluting; Abbie Hoffman in his American flag shirt, among so many others. His photos were compiled in books like The Beat Scene, Beat Generation: Glory Days in Greenwich Village, and Gay Pride: Photographs from Stonewall to Today. Here's a link to his obit in the Voice, with links there, and below, to some of his photos: http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-10-30/news/fred-w-mcdarrah-1926-2007/ http://www.stevenkasher.com/html/artistresults.asp?artist=75 http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=gQs&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=%22fred%20mcdarrah%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi On Mar 25, 2010, at 3:37 AM, steve dalachinsky wrote: > yes ted joans a dear friend and "outsider" poet did rent-a beatnik in > late 50's early 60's > also the fanmous rent parties as well now maybe rent-a-nudnik or a > laureate or a academic > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:08:32 -0700 Catherine Daly > > writes: >> there was a life magazine article about the rent-a-beatnik thing, >> wasn't there? -- David A. 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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well, dead poets have written poems and we read their poems to others -- =A0 & yes, we should write for "an audience of everyone" who reads. --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Gerald Schwartz wrote: From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: 25 questions, #4... To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 2:26 PM Question # 4: Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets w= ho=20 read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:44:14 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Margaret Konkol Subject: anything anymore anywhere spring 2010 out now!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Congratulations to Colin Herd and Reuben Sutton on an exquisite March 2010 issue of *anything anymore anywhere.* My copy arrived in the mail today and I am reading the wonderful contributions of Maric Arrieta, James Davies, Marcus Whale, Devin Johnston as well as many others! Cheers, Margaret Konkol ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:13:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Upcoming Events at The Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone, Here=B9s what we have coming up at The Poetry Project. You=B9ll notice there ar= e no readings next week=8B that=B9s because next week is Holy Week and time for The Poetry Project to take a vacation! Friday, March 26, 10 PM A Similar But Different Quality Magazine Reading A Similar But Different Quality is an experimental text-based journal unspecific to any genre. The sole parameter is that the work is text, which opens us to the surprise and poetry of language that is everywhere. Published occasionally, their manifesto reads: Accidents. Words are everywhere and inevitably beautiful. What tries to be poetic is often not because true poetry is an accident. The poetry genre is paradoxically unpoetic, too narrow to contain the full beauty of language that permeates everyday conversation, movie dialogue, graffiti, theatre, song lyrics, notes, diary entries, grocery lists, receipts, rap, text messages, emails, spam, tweets, etc, etc. To poetry without boundaries, except the words. Not poetry, but words. To an immediate, unpretentious and zesty poetry. Monday, April 5, 8 PM Open Reading=20 Sign-In 7:45 Wednesday, April 7, 8 PM The Kenning Anthology of Poets Theater This reading will celebrate the release of The Kenning Anthology of Poets Theater 1945-1985, a superb documentation of the emergence, growth, and varied fortunes of the form over decades of American literary history. The largest and most comprehensive anthology of its kind yet assembled, the volume collects classics of poets theater as well as rarities long out of print and texts from unpublished manuscripts and archives. Editors David Brazil and Kevin Killian will be joined by some of the contributors who wil= l read or perform their work. With Bruce Andrews, Charles Bernstein, Nada Gordon, Ted Greenwald, Sonia Sanchez and Fiona Templeton. Friday, April 9, 10 PM Joey Yearous-Algozin & Divya Victor Joey Yearous-Algozin is the author of Kensington Notebook (Lean-To Press) and BOSTON STREET/TREES (Lean-To Press). His poetry has appeared or is forthcoming from Cannot Exist, Forage, and the Robert Walser Society of Massachusetts. He is currently a PhD student in Poetics at SUNY-Buffalo. Divya Victor has lived and learned in India, Singapore, Baltimore, Philadelphia and Seattle. She has an M.A. from Temple University and is currently working towards her Ph.D. at the University at Buffalo. Her work has appeared in ambit, XConnect, The Ixnay Reader, dusie, President=B9s Choice, P-QUEUE, and Drunken Boat. Her chapbook SUTURES was just published by Little Red Leaves. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.org/become-a-member Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.org/program-calendar The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.org www.poetryproject.org Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $95 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.org. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:15:41 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Reminder - TONIGHT - March 26, Friday ~ Jessica Bozek, Melissa Broder, Jackie Clark, Cate Marvin, Brett Eugene Ralph & Stephanie Whited! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable March 26, Friday ~ Jessica Bozek, Melissa Broder, Jackie Clark, Cate = =0A=0AMarch 26, Friday ~ Jessica Bozek, Melissa Broder, Jackie Clark, Cate = Marvin, Brett Eugene Ralph & Stephanie Whited!=0A=0AMarch 26 @ 7 p.m. Goodb= ye Blue Monday in Brooklyn=0Awith=0A=0AJessica Bozek is the author of The B= odyfeel Lexicon (Switchback Books) and several chapbooks. Recent poems appe= ar in Action, Yes, Artifice, Fairy Tale Review, P-QUEUE, and Womb. Jessica = runs Small Animal Project (smallanimalproject.com), a reading series and we= b-text experiment based in Cambridge, MA.=0A~=0A=0AMelissa Broder is the au= thor of WHEN YOU SAY ONE THING BUT MEAN YOUR MOTHER (Ampersand Books, Febru= ary 2010). She is the curator of the Polestar Poetry Series and the Chief E= ditor of La Petite Zine. Broder received her BA from Tufts University and i= s currently in the MFA program at CCNY. She is the winner of the Jerome Low= ell Dejur Award and the Stark Prize for Poetry. By day, she works as a lite= rary publicist. Her poems have appeared in many journals, including: Opium,= Shampoo, Conte and The Del Sol Review.=0A~=0A=0AJackie Clark is currently = co-editor-in-chief for LIT magazine. She also curates Poets off Poetry at c= oldfrontmag.com, where poets write about music. Her chapbook Office Work i= s forthcoming from Greying Ghost Press. She lives in Jersey City.=0A~=0A= =0ACate Marvin=E2=80=99s first book, World=E2=80=99s Tallest Disaster, was = chosen by Robert Pinksy for the 2000 Kathryn A. Morton Prize and published = by Sarabande Books in 2001. In 2002, she received the Kate Tufts Discovery = Prize. Her poems have appeared in The New England Review, Poetry, The Kenyo= n Review, Fence, The Paris Review, The Cincinnati Review, Slate, Verse, Bos= ton Review, and Ninth Letter. She is co-editor with poet Michael Dumanis of= the anthology Legitimate Dangers: American Poets of the New Century (Sarab= ande Books, 2006). Her second book of poems, Fragment of the Head of a Quee= n, was published by Sarabande in August 2007. A recent Whiting Award recipi= ent and 2007 NYFA Gregory Millard Fellow, she teaches poetry writing in Les= ley University=E2=80=99s Low-Residency M.F.A. Program and is an associate p= rofessor in creative writing at the College of Staten Island, City Universi= ty of New York.=0A~=0A=0ABrett Eugene Ralph spent the better part of his yo= uth in Louisville, Kentucky, playing football and singing in punk rock band= s. His work has appeared in journals such as Conduit, Mudfish, Willow Spri= ngs, and The American Poetry Review; it has been anthologized in The McSwee= ney=E2=80=99s Book of Poets Picking Poets and The Stiffest of the Corpse: A= n Exquisite Corpse Reader. His first full-length collection, Black Sabbatic= al, was published by Sarabande Books in 2009. Brett has taught at the Univ= ersity of Massachusetts, Missouri State University, and the Central Institu= te of Buddhist Studies in the Himalayas of northern India. Currently, he l= ives in Empire, Kentucky, and teaches at Hopkinsville Community College. H= is country rock ensemble, Brett Eugene Ralph=E2=80=99s Kentucky Chrome Revu= e, can be heard in seedy dives throughout the South.=0A~=0A=0AA New Yorker = since 2001, Stephanie Whited received her BA in Psychology in 2005 from NYU= which has greatly influenced her poetry. She trades her time and attention= for writing, mentoring, advocating alternative health, and acting. You can= find a few of her poems in the second issue of Spine Road. This is her fir= st reading.=0A=0Aat=0A=0AGoodbye Blue Monday=0A1087 Broadway=0A(corner of D= odworth St)=0ABrooklyn, NY 11221-3013=0A(718) 453-6343=0AJ M Z trains to My= rtle Ave=0Aor J train to Kosciusko St=0A=0A~=0A=0AHosted by Amy King and An= a Bo=C5=BEi=C4=8Devi=C4=87=0Ahttp://www.stainofpoetry.com=0A =0A=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0AYou are subscribed to the POETRY-l L= ist with e-mail address amyhappens@GMAIL.COM To unsubscribe at any time, pl= ease follow these UNSUBSCRIBE instructions:=0ASend any email (subject and t= ext are ignored) to POETRY-l-SIGNOFF-REQUEST@GC.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU or click = here:=0Ahttp://gc.listserv.cuny.edu/scriptsgc/wa-gc.exe?SUBED1=3DPOETRY-l&A= =3D1&s=3Damyhappens@GMAIL.COM=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0AHTML GIANT -- You might like= me too:=0A=0Ahttp://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/= =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:24:44 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Paul Nelson Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: <453952.98800.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Demands for communication [in art] are presumptuous and irrelevant" Clyfford Still Paul E. Nelson Global Voices Radio SPLAB! C. City, WA 206.422.5002 ________________________________ From: steve russell To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 1:19:26 PM Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... well, dead poets have written poems and we read their poems to others -- & yes, we should write for "an audience of everyone" who reads. --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Gerald Schwartz wrote: From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: 25 questions, #4... To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 2:26 PM Question # 4: Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets who read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:58:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Louis Cabri Subject: Call for papers [please circulate!]: Symposium on the Alphabet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable CALL FOR PAPERS please circulate =5Fthe Alphabet=5F: A Symposium on Ron Silliman's Long Poem 25-26 March 2011 University of Windsor, Windsor, Ontario, Canada "I'm not writing for 'a small circle of friends,' I'm writing to you." After three decades of composition, Ron Silliman's =5Fthe Alphabet=5F is=20 complete, and published under one cover (University of Alabama Press,=20 2008). When this twenty-six-sectioned, thousand-plus-page poem was only=20 available in discrete portions, in magazines, chapbooks, limited-run=20 books, what punctuated each was not the poem's next "new sentence" but=20 concurrent claims and counterclaims on contemporary life. =5Fthe Alphabet= =5F=20 was written during decades when high theory and cultural studies had=20 arrived in the academy to exact formal and mostly progressive social=20 evaluations from culture and the arts, but still often at the expense of=20 poetry's own theoretical challenges to the academy's institutional base;=20 when intensified corporate consolidation of the mass media and new=20 technologies were transforming existing paradigms of "the consumer=20 society" (Baudrillard), its "captains of consciousness" (Ewen), and=20 "culture of narcissism" (Lasch); and when, among other factors,=20 manufactured consent (theorized equally by Burawoy for factory work as by=20 Chomsky and Herman for mass media) propelled the US mainstream rightwards=20 into postmodern politics. Specific responses to claims by these dominant=20 narratives (to pick just three) from the post-Vietnam War era are to be=20 found among poets associated with Language Poetry (a label in part=20 projected from such narratives) and other contemporaneous groupings and=20 tendencies. But even in a given contextual and interpretive frame such as=20 this one, loose and incomplete as it is in this version but in which some=20 idea of ideological mediation prevails, how is it that one thing =5Fthe=20 Alphabet=5F does is embody perceptions of a sensible world ("the way old gu= m=20 leaves its spotted shadow on the cement"), which is a poetic task much=20 older than and yet foundational to "the ideology of the aesthetic" (in=20 Eagleton's title phrase)? I offer this long-debated question of art's=20 function - "to strengthen the perceptive faculties and free them from=20 encumbrance" (to quote Pound on Dante, from almost a century ago) - as an=20 example of how =5Fthe Alphabet=5F's singularities and influences may=20 re-illuminate received verities regarding the politics of aesthetic forms=20 in Language Poetry's milieu. Put another way, once timely and key=20 discursive interventions associated with Silliman's name and context -=20 such as use of theory in poetry, "ethnography" of the everyday, critiques=20 of accessible communication modes and of speech-based subjectivization,=20 poetics of ideological mediation - may require further elaboration, or=20 rethinking, if not their significance re-calibrated, in the face of this=20 poem's challenges. For, arguably, Silliman's reputation, even notoriety,=20 as critic, theorist, exponent of poetry's production as a socially=20 relevant and collective act, has preceded and to a degree guided how the=20 poetry is to be received. But if a reader responds to the poetry, then how = and what does she or he see and hear? "I'm writing to you," the text says=20 in the section called "Lit." So, what is reading =5Fthe Alphabet=5F "like,"= =20 for you? This symposium aims to invite readings of Ron Silliman's long poem, =5Fthe = Alphabet=5F, and encourages critical engagements with its formal and=20 socio-historical/-ideological dynamics as well as with its contexts and=20 interpretive frames that have accrued around the author's time and work.=20 Papers on any issue focussed on or around =5Fthe Alphabet=5F or an aspect=20 thereof are welcome, including but not limited to those addressing how=20 =5Fthe Alphabet=5F engages elements of ? language (poetic language and form, grammar, syntax, pun, cliche,=20 description, reference, etc) ? narrative / anti-narrative / story ? representation (recalling Stuart Hall's constructionist sense of "the=20 active work of selecting and presenting, of structuring and shaping: not=20 merely the transmitting of already-existing meaning, but the more active=20 labour of making things mean," "things" including class stratification,=20 gender construction, whiteness / racialization, etc) ? the aesthetic (& form; & ideology; & the body; & perception) ? the social (historical; sociological; psychological; poetic) ? nature (landscape, description, etc) ? realism (& 19C / 20C codes of "the reality effect"; & knowing) ? the unconscious (political, etc) ? genre (long poems, prose poems, novels, lyrics, etc) ? group & individual affiliation / disaffiliation (Language Poets /=20 Language Writing / Language School; contemporaries in the poetic field=20 such as Rae Armantrout, Rachel Blau DuPlessis, Leslie Scalapino, etc) ? "tradition" (e.g.: Whitman, Thoreau; first-, second-generation=20 modernists such as H.D., Reznikoff; "New American Poets" such as Whalen,=20 Olson, Spicer; etc) ? non-US poetry & poetics in/from Canada (e.g.: Kootenay School of=20 Writing; Toronto Research Group; "the Canadian long poem"), China, Russia, = France, Australia, England, etc ? theory (postmodernity / postmodernism / modernism / modernity /=20 globalization) ? "after" (after theory; after "the American century"; after Language=20 poetics; after "21st-century modernism"; etc) Please send 300-500-word abstracts for twenty-minute papers, or detailed=20 proposals for panels, by 1 Nov 2010 to Louis Cabri at lcabri at uwindsor=20 dot ca.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:56:46 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jim Andrews Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: <453952.98800.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit everything we say is not for everyone. i just try to say what i have to say the best way i know how. not so much for this audience or that audience, but for the writing, myself, the subject, and anyone in particular i might be addressing or writing about. ja http://vispo.com Question # 4: Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets who read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:03:19 +1100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Pam Brown Subject: review a poetry book for Jacket magazine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Poeticists, If you would like to write a review of one of these books for Jacket magazine please contact me on the backchannel. p.brown62@gmail.com Gaze, by Marthe Reed, Black Radish Books, 2010: About Gaze: In the de-stabilized intersection of fashion, the war on terror, and cultural constructions of the feminine, Gaze explores the resulting tensions in a series of dichotomies central to an increasingly isolate and adversarial condition: Christianity/Islam, ancient/modern, sacred/secular, sexuality/spirituality, feminism/fundamentalism, power/resistance, self/other. Rikki Ducornet says this about these intersections in Gaze: =93In these moments the world is given breath, heat, and voice. All at once it approaches, and the beloved's unfettered body is revealed as the antidote to tyranny.=94 What we see and what we fail to see are constantly juxtaposed, exposing a flawed desire to =93become.=94 Kate Bernheimer says of Gaze, =93Too beautiful to articulate=92=97dressed, undressed, terrorized, and entrancing. These unveilings, these poems, how they haunt me. Riding Angela Carter on a poetry-horse, Reed hallucinates language with certain and dissolving rhythm. Gaze at them; go blind inside this mentalist=92s mind. Marthe Reed is unrelenting, unrelentingly kind.=94 Occultations, by David Wolach, Black Radish Books, 2010: About Occultations: Employing an array of contemporary poetic strategies (somatics, enactment, procedural interference, abject lyric, ritual, affiliative appropriation), Occultations asks us to consider how the body's mortal we...might live its demise. To ask, "why do you hesitate at the covered parts?" is to pose the question of an ethics of the senses...David Wolach's experiments extend this exploration precisely through their variance: in these poems, speech, sex, war and militarism, domestic space, collectively, protest--not ghosted, not as representation, but as locational probabilities, as motional frameworks.--Laura Elrick Tomorrowland, by Lisa Samuels., Shearsman, 2009 About Tomorrowland: Tomorrowland is a book-length poem of bodily transit and colonial forgetting. Its names and events perpetually arrive in a new world, whose versions here combine promised lands and historical suicide. Eula moves among these real and imagined place-times with other symbolic names and unnamed figures, and Jack plays death. The primary formal note is the interrupted iambic. Lisa Samuels' Tomorrowland is a guidebook and diary from an actuality existing among real sea and ships and coastline, history, and contemporary reflection. There are named =93characters,=94 but the true characters are a colony, a =93we=94 of the newly arrived to this land. The generous and graceful syntax is a fusing agent for yesterday, today, and tomorrow. The reader exults in the accomplishment of the verse. =97Alice Notley http://www.shearsman.com/pages/books/catalog/2009/samuelsTOM.html Thanks very much, Pam ____________________________________ blog : http://thedeletions.blogspot.com website : http://pambrownbooks.blogspot.com/ associate editor : http://jacketmagazine.com/ & continuing with Jacket2 in 2011 _____________________________________ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:40:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Porter2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Porter2 Not that you listened to porter.mp3, but it did split a nail, messing up my play. I taped on a saz pick, alternating finger styles. Anyway this is a pretty cool piece, makes me want to drive across the country again. I'd slam into every right-wing militia in sight. I wouldn't care if it made sense. Then I thought maybe I should use exclamation marks here but decided against it. The oud's unsweetened, just as it came through the amp. I wasn't going to do another porter piece but I thought, well this is a followup to the first since I messed up my play and Desiree made it all better: http://www.alansondheim.org/porter2.mp3 Desiree was punctual to a minute. The porter, the garcons, the porterai avec pour toujours! offices, too, were to be performed by the wife of the porter, according to little Nathalie, the porter's daughter, remaining with her grandmother The sou was given, and the porter's daughter disappeared, leaving the porter's daughter, and she went forth to dispose of this: "The night Madame de la R******* died, the wife of the porter, she had sex with minors, who said?" And all the reporters were looking at her poverty, soon divulged to the porteress: To porterage, -- 00.00 1/4: To porterage, -- 00.00 1/4: - after he signed the cheque that was to pay the importer. I overheard he's played recently, this reporter can only surmise. "The eternal gates' terrific porter lifted the northern Bar- Imperial - supporter of the empire. For she was The Supporter of All or One Who Remains Alive even after Everything, and he is like one who tries to reform that matter, those false porters and trekking guides carrying out at one sweep the whole arsenal of the old law. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:54:00 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Kevin Killian Subject: Re: anything anymore anywhere spring 2010 out now!! In-Reply-To: <6105d1c71003251344i518ff75dy71c72bd78d5ac24b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I second the praise Margaret Konkol has given to the new Edinburgh-based fiction and poetry journal, Anything, Anymore, Anywhere." It is glowing like a fire, without and within. Here's how to order your copy, http://www.anything-anymore-anywhere.com/ Thanks, Margaret, Thanks Reuben and Colin, Kevin K. San Francisco > Congratulations to Colin Herd and Reuben Sutton on an exquisite March 2010 > issue of *anything anymore anywhere.* > > My copy arrived in the mail today and I am reading the wonderful > contributions of Maric Arrieta, James Davies, Marcus Whale, Devin Johnston > as well as many others! > > Cheers, > Margaret Konkol > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:23:34 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Justin Katko Subject: CRS : Joyce and Mobarak : Friday 2 April In-Reply-To: <3bf622561003260622m28b7f5dcl533a643e1d6f51b5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Cambridge Reading Series continues on through the Easter holiday with its third poetry reading of the year. TREVOR JOYCE and NOUR MOBARAK will flick the hallowed stone from its purchase on Friday 2 April, 7:30pm. Poetry, dance, video projections: spend Black Friday right! Venue: Judith E= . Studio Drama Studio, Faculty of English, Cambridge, UK. All are welcome; free entry; free pamphlet; wine served. *************************** TREVOR JOYCE has lived and worked in Cork Ireland for twenty-five years, fo= r the last twelve of which he's been a director of SoundEye. His books includ= e with the first dream of fire they hunt the cold (New Writers' Press/Shearsman, 2001 & 2003) and What's in Store (NWP/The Gig, 2008), whic= h collect work up to 2000 and 2001-07, respectively. Courts of Air and Earth (Shearsman, 2009) gathers all his workings from middle and early-modern Irish. He has been a Fulbright Scholar, is a member of Aosd=E1na, and is th= e Judith E. Wilson Visiting Poetry Fellow for 2009-10. NOUR MOBARAK resides in Portland Oregon and is an artist working with video= , music, writing, and performance. She has just returned from a two month residency in Finland where she co-created a melodramatic 8-episode cable access television series, starring infamous Finnish personality Ibi Love. She plays music in the bands Smegma and Fred Meyer. Her book Rogue Iniki is forthcoming from Critical Documents, and her writing has been published in Poetry Salzburg Review, Hot Gun, ITIOFD[V]GNH-VRD, and Francis Crot's Xena Warrior Princess fan fic. *************************** The Cambridge Reading Series (CRS) is a new cycle of poetry readings taking place at the Faculty of English in Cambridge. Dialogic in form and international in scope, CRS revises the conventional performance format. In addition to reading their own work, both poets will also read the work of another poet. Each reading will be accompanied by a pamphlet publication featuring a selection of the participating poets=92 work and critical responses. A full list of up-coming dates and readers is given below. Please direct an= y queries to Justin Katko (jk468@cam.ac.uk) or see the CRS website: crs0hq.tumblr.com The Cambridge Reading Series is funded by the Judith E. Wilson Fund and organised by English graduate students Ryan Dobran, Ian Heames, Justin Katko, Laura Kilbride, and Mike Wallace-Hadrill. *************************** Readings begin at 7:30pm and are held in the Judith E. Wilson Drama Studio, in the Faculty of English, West Road, Cambridge. Friday 2 April: Nour Mobarak & Trevor Joyce EASTER TERM Friday 30 April: Jonty Tiplady & Frances Kruk Friday 21 May: Lorqi Blinks & John Wilkinson Friday 18 Jun: Sean Bonney & Simon Jarvis =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:07:20 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: One more on Ai - NYT Comments: To: "Discussion of Women\\'s Poetry List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ai, a Steadfast Poetic Channel of Hard Lives, Dies at 62 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/books/28ai.html?hpw Amy _______ HTML GIANT -- You might like me too: http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ THE GURLESQUE - NOT ENOUGH GRRRL? http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/my-visceral-thought/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:10:03 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jen Tynes Subject: Release of New Pony MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 New Pony: A Horse Less Anthology is here! http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/new-pony-a-horse-less-anthology/6496790 edited by Erika Howsare & Jen Tynes including work by Erik Anderson, Cynthia Arrieu-King & Kristi Maxwell, Sarah Bartlett & Emily Kendal Frey, Eric Baus & Seth Perlow, Sommer Browning & Brandon Shimoda, Adam Clay, Gary L. McDowell, and Brandon Shimoda, Julia Cohen & Mathias Svalina, Thomas Cook & Nate Slawson, Bruce Covey & Terita Heath-Wlaz, MTC Cronin & Peter Boyle, Mark DeCarteret, DZ Delgado & Sandy Florian, Jennifer K. 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You can order your copy now! http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/new-pony-a-horse-less-anthology/6496790 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:09:01 +1100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Pam Brown Subject: Thanks from Jacket and one title remaining for review MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks everyone, Jacket magazine has assigned reviewers for Tomorrowland and Occultations. If you'd like to review Gaze (see below) just email me for details p.brown62@gmail.com Gaze, by Marthe Reed, Black Radish Books, 2010: About Gaze In the de-stabilized intersection of fashion, the war on terror, and cultural constructions of the feminine, Gaze explores the resulting tensions in a series of dichotomies central to an increasingly isolate and adversarial condition: Christianity/Islam, ancient/modern, sacred/secular, sexuality/spirituality, feminism/fundamentalism, power/resistance, self/other. Rikki Ducornet says this about these intersections in Gaze: =93In these moments the world is given breath, heat, and voice. All at once it approaches, and the beloved's unfettered body is revealed as the antidote to tyranny.=94 What we see and what we fail to see are constantly juxtaposed, exposing a flawed desire to =93become.=94 Kate Bernheimer says of Gaze, =93Too beautiful to articulate=92=97dressed, undressed, terrorized, and entrancing. These unveilings, these poems, how they haunt me. Riding Angela Carter on a poetry-horse, Reed hallucinates language with certain and dissolving rhythm. Gaze at them; go blind inside this mentalist=92s mind. Marthe Reed is unrelenting, unrelentingly kind.=94 Thanks again, Pam --=20 ____________________________________ blog : http://thedeletions.blogspot.com website : http://pambrownbooks.blogspot.com/ associate editor : http://jacketmagazine.com/ & continuing with Jacket2 in 2011 _____________________________________ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:01:39 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nicholas Karavatos Subject: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem Saudi poet Hessa Hilal lashed out at hard-line clerics' religious edicts in= verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of "American Idol." =20 AP Published: 17:36 March 23=2C 2010 Reader comments (12) =20 Dubai: It was a startling voice of protest at a startling venue. Covered he= ad-to-toe in black=2C a Saudi woman lashed out at hard-line Muslim clerics'= harsh religious edicts in verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of = "American Idol." =20 Well=2C not quite "American Idol": Contestants compete not in singing but i= n traditional Arabic poetry. Over the past episodes=2C poets sitting on an = elaborate stage before a live audience have recited odes to the beauty of B= edouin life and the glories of their rulers or mourning the gap between ric= h and poor. =20 Then last week=2C Hessa Hilal=2C only her eyes visible through her veil=2C = delivered a blistering poem against Muslim preachers "who sit in the positi= on of power" but are "frightening" people with their fatwas=2C or religious= edicts=2C and "preying like a wolf" on those seeking peace. =20 Her poem got loud cheers from the audience and won her a place in the compe= tition's finals=2C to be aired on Wednesday. =20 It also brought her death threats=2C posted on several Islamic militant web= sites. Hessa shrugs off the controversy. =20 "My poetry has always been provocative=2C" she told The Associated Press in= an interview. "It's a way to express myself and give voice to Arab women= =2C silenced by those who have hijacked our culture and our religion." =20 Her poem was seen as a response to Shaikh Abdul Rahman Al Barrak=2C a promi= nent cleric in Saudi Arabia who recently issued a fatwa saying those who ca= ll for the mingling of men and women should be considered infidels=2C punis= hable by death. =20 But more broadly=2C it was seen as addressing any of many hard-line clerics= in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the region who hold a wide influence thro= ugh television programmes=2C university positions or web sites. "Killing a human being is so easy for them=2C it is always an option=2C" sh= e told the AP. Poetry holds a prominent place in Arab culture=2C and some poets in the Mid= dle East have a fan base akin to those of rock stars. =20 The programme=2C The Million's Poet=2C is a chance for poets to show off th= eir original work=2C airing live weekly on satellite television across the = Arab world from Abu Dhabi=2C capital of the United Arab Emirates. =20 Contestants are graded on voice and style of recitation=2C but also on thei= r subject matter=2C said Sultan Al Amimi=2C one of the three judges on the = show and a manager of Abu Dhabi's Poetry Academy. =20 Hilal's 15-verse poem was in a form known as Nabati=2C native to nomadic tr= ibes of the Arabian Peninsula. She criticised extremism that she told AP is= "creeping into our society" through fatwas. =20 "I have seen evil in the eyes of fatwas=2C at a time when the permitted is = being twisted into the forbidden=2C" she said in the poem. She called such = edicts "a monster that emerged from its hiding place" whenever "the veil is= lifted from the face of truth." =20 She described hardline clerics as "vicious in voice=2C barbaric=2C angry an= d blind=2C wearing death as a robe cinched with a belt=2C" in an apparent r= eference to suicide bombers' explosives belts. =20 The three judges gave her the highest marks for her performance=2C praising= her for addressing a controversial topic. That=2C plus voting from the 2= =2C000 people in the audience and text messages from viewers=2C put her thr= ough to the final round. =20 "Hessa Hilal is a courageous poet=2C" said Al Amimi. "She expressed her opi= nion against the kind of fatwas that affect people's lives and raised an al= arm against these ad hoc fatwas coming from certain scholars who are inciti= ng extremism." =20 Fatwas are not legally binding and it is up to individual Muslims to follow= them. Clerics of all ideological stripes pronounced fatwas on nearly every= aspect of people's lives=2C from how they should deal with members of othe= r religions to what they can watch on television. =20 Hessa said she had heard about the death threats posted on Islamic extremis= t Web sites and was concerned=2C but "not enough to send me into hiding." =20 What's more on her mind is how sudden fame will change her quiet family lif= e at home in the Saudi capital=2C Riyadh. =20 "I worry how I will be perceived after the show is over=2C when judgment is= passed and people begin to talk about my performance and ideas=2C" said He= ssa=2C a mother of four who has published poetry and previously was a poetr= y editor at the Arab daily Al Hayat. "I worry the lights of fame will affec= t my simple and quiet existence." =20 The Million's Poet was launched in 2006 by the government's Abu Dhabi Autho= rity for Culture and Heritage to encourage poetry. =20 In this=2C the fourth season=2C 48 contestants from 12 Arab countries compe= ted=2C including several women along with Hessa. =20 On Wednesday=2C Hilal will be joined by five other poets in the final round= . The winner of the $1.3 million grand prize will be declared a week later = on March 31. =20 Their topics are already known. One of Hessa's rivals will address terroris= m. Another woman in the finals=2C Jaza Al Baqmi=2C will reflect on the role= of women. =20 Hessa says her poem will tackle the media=2C but wouldn't elaborate so as n= ot to spoil the surprise. "My message to those who hear me is love=2C compassion and peace=2C" Hessa = said. "We all have to share a small planet and we need to learn how to live= together." =20 =20 =20 What do you think of this issue? Has the poet overstepped the line? Or do s= uch acts promote dialogue? Join the debate... =20 =20 http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-woman-blasts-clerics-in-tv= -contest-poem-1.601907 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Nicholas Karavatos Dept of Language & Literature American University of Sharjah PO Box 26666 Sharjah United Arab Emirates =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your = inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:12:19 -1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jonathan Morse Subject: Jonathan Morse blogs about words and images MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- most recently, about some words of Henry James and an image of Marilyn Monroe -- at http://jonathan-morse.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:24:27 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Readings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit UDP AT PS1 EVENTS EACH SUNDAY IN MARCH Artbook @ PS1/MoMA 22-25 Jackson Ave, Long Island City, NY Sunday, March 14, 4pm Yelena Gluzman, Rachel Levitsky, Ben Luzzatto, and Dan Machlin Sunday, March 21, 4pm Poetry performances by UDP authors Filip Marinovich, Elizabeth Reddin, and Garrett Kalleberg. Sunday, March 28, 4 pm A wine reception with performances and readings by Peter Gizzi and Steve Dalachinsky; a bilingual performance of Carlos Oquendo de Amat's classic 5 Meters of Poems by the translators Alejandro de Acosta and Joshua Beckman; and a performance of Vanessa Place and Rob Fitterman's new work "NO IDEA." The readings will be preceded by a screening (at 3:30) of Joel Schlemowitz's award-winning documentary, "Loudmouth Collective / Ugly Duckling Presse / Anti-Reading." _________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________ March 28, 8pm The Stone (NW corner of Avenue C and East 2nd St., F train to 2nd Ave.) Admission $10, Students age 14-19 admitted at half price. Children 12 and under free. LOCAL LINGO Jason Kao Hwang (composer, violin/viola) Sang Won Park (kayagum, ajeng, voice) Thomas Buckner (voice) William Parker (string bass) Joe McPhee (tenor sax, pocket trumpet) On Sunday, March 28, starting at 8pm, Local Lingo will premiere composer Jason Kao Hwang’s suite, “Voices of Our Own,” featuring the poetry of Lester Afflick, Fay Chiang, Steve Dalachinsky, Patricia Spears Jones and Yuko Otomo. The music will employ notation and improvisation, with the inflection of jazz, opera and world music vibrant in the Local Lingo of sound. Poetry books and the Local Lingo CD will be on sale. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:58:58 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Haptic +Writing International Event Comments: To: UK POETRY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wanted to draw attention to an international real-time video audio online u= nintended=A0 collaboration with British artist Sarah Sanders' 24 hour sunri= se to sunrise writing launch of Ekleksographia on the Ides of March during = the last hour of which I made a haptic while closely listening and watching= her hand and pencil do the work. For an account, at least an account of my= astonishment plus the drawing, go here:=20 http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ Stephen Vincent=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:38:09 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Fwd: Fluxus Assembling box Nr 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) From: Francis Van Maele Date: March 26, 2010 7:31:03 AM CDT To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Fluxus Assembling box Nr 2 Reply-To: info@redfoxpress.com NEW .. OUT NOW .. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:16:13 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: Re: 25 Questions, #4 . . . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Murat: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, David Chirot wrote: I've made poems written for stones, tree, the air, a ray of light--without even the idea of a person involved-- In this sense one may write for those "illiterates" or "inanimates" who do not read yet understand and know the Unwritten-- "The hills know but do not tell" as Emily Dickinson writes=97 *Thing Language* This ocean, humiliating in its disguises Tougher than anything. No one listens to poetry. The ocean Does not mean to be listened to. A drop Or crash of water. It means Nothing. It Is bread and butter Pepper and salt. The death That young men hope for. Aimlessly It pounds the shore. White and aimless signals. No One listens to poetry. Note: Spicer writes that =93no one listens to poetry.=94 He does NOT write= that no one reads poetry. After all, it takes reading his poem to know that he wrote that no one listens to poetry . . . Are the poems only =93white and aimless signals=94 when heard, even if one is not listening=97as one does h= ear say such ongoing sounds as those of oceans and electricity lines night and day humming and whining in the weathers of a city . . or the country=97thei= r =93written=94 manifestations seen as lines, calligraphic, still or rocking = in the winds,--=93white and aimless=94 as the space of the page, which becomes written, black and with an aim=97at least of the eyes-- when read . . . doe= s the meaningless unlistened to poetry and ocean only exist as a =93speaker= =94 when read amid the white aimless signals of the page---a form of decoding . . . a misreading set down in writing=97disinformation deliberately spawned = by some unknown =93aim=94=97=93Thing Language=94 as a =93thing to be read=94 w= hen =93not heard?=94=97 For the letters among Murat and myself quoted from here, see below this present screed-- I am not playing devil=92s advocate here; as you know I am very much in sympathy with what you write. On the other hand, I think all too often there is a too unquestioning welcoming of things which seem to prove the values for which one may be in search of, o r confident of, rather than a more open investigation into what it is that is always already existing al around one, hidden in plain site, sight, cite= . The statements, quotes, you write are beautiful and in the best sense, "noble." On the other hand, what you are writing of is based on a faith, an assumption, that indeed what Spicer, Benjamin and you write is "true." A point of view via the imagination is taken to be a "natural born fact, Jack." The ancient Romans had a saying that when an event occurs--one is to ask oneself: who benefits? In Leonardo Sciascia's The Moro Affair, the author turns to Pasolini's statement of investigation: "The first symptoms are in the language." You write: "the idea in the title {=93 Poetry Has Nothing To Do With Politics=94} is a= n assertion of the independent, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry." Might one not ask: how can an assertion such as =93Poetry Has Nothing To D= o With Politics =93be considered as having anything to do with "an independen= t, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry"? Is the assertion =93Poetry Has Nothing To Do With Politics=94 by its rhetor= ical absolutism not in itself a denial of such independence, accidents, chaos, while being at the same time very much an assertion of POWER? Your statements, with the selected quotations denote a search for what poetry does, means, its existential condition=97and so provides the =93evidences=94 which support the search=97as a search implies=97it is a se= arch for something=97an answer, a Holy Grail=97a poem=97 Benjamin was a person on continual searches=97when he wrote with one search= in mind he wrote in the manner of the quotation here. Elsewhere, for example when writing on Brecht (and/or under his influence) or the Surrealists, he was asking the questions related to his search for an actual PROGRAM: as he wrote: =93Communism politicizes aesthetics.=94 (As opposed to Fascism=92s =93aestheticization of politics.=94) In that context, the idea of a poetry outside of politics would be an evidence of tacit approval for the =93condition of things as they are, as they exist.=94 And, so, a poetry at= the service of the status quo of existence. If one applied the ancient Roman=92= s question of =93who benefits,=94 would it not yield the same answer? That s= uch a position benefits the status quo, the Power of the Status Quo? Does your quotation from Benjamin actually mean, as you suggest, that =93poetry listens to no one? What gives Benjamin the particular, especial Power to make this assertion as a truth? How does he presume to know whethe= r or not the work of art in itself cares or not about its reception? Aren=92t you perhaps misreading the quotation as given here? My reading of =93but= in none of its [Art=92s] works is it concerned with his [man=92s] response=94 = is that, not to be concerned with the response, does not mean a not listening, but simply a not caring for what is heard as a response or not. That is, th= e response will have no effect on the poem whatsoever, as far as the poem is =93concerned.=94 Might this not mean also that the poem DOES hear the resp= onse but simply thumbs its nose at it? Might not Benjamin write a quite opposite response when he is writing of Brecht for example, whose intended effects via the =93A effect=94 are desig= ned quite consciously and openly to effect a response, and one that opens the spectator=92s mind to the particular point of view re man=92s condition tha= t Brecht is =93bearing the message of?=94 =93Art... posits > man=92s physical and spiritual existence, but in none of its works is it > concerned with his response. No poem is intended for the reader, no picture > for the beholder, no symphony for the listener.=94 Benjamin in some essays argues that there are Arts which are most certainly intended to produce certain desired effects, whether they are Communist or Fascist. The question of =93anarchy,=94 let alone Anarchism, (not to menti= on =93Democracy,=94) is left out in favor of demonstrating the urgency of the choice between the two opposing systems threatening to engulf hundreds of millions of lives. Agit-prop, the work of Brecht=92s form of Theater, the films of Eisenstein and Vertov=92s, Picasso=92s painting of =93Guernica,=94= the Nazi attacks on =93decadence=94 in the arts, the Mussolini-Marinetti formulation= s of a Fascist Futurism, the Spanish Falange=92s ultra-reactionary conceptions o= f a State Holy/Holy State Art=97Benjamin was surrounded by works whose intentio= ns were anything but =93fugitive=94 as William Burroughs calls the glossary-resisting languages of drug addicts. My point is that Benjamin himself does not consistently participate in the hard core forms of absolutism demonstrated by a title such as =93Poetry has nothing to do with politics.=94 After all, if one truly thinks with =93an assertion of the independent, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry" then it does not exist in Foster=92s title, which is an absolutist and exclusionary one. An absolutist =93chaoti= c power,=94 is basically an oxymoron; if it is exclusionary of politics it i= s then just as exclusionary of such forms of =93anti-political=94 assertions = as Murat=92s interpretation of Foster title is. Chaos is=97the INCLUSION of =93both/and=94 rather than an exclusionary =93either/or=94: Chaos does not = censor, pick and choose, take one side over another=97Chaos is IMPROBABLITY. =93Un = Coup de des n=92abolira jamais le hazard,=94 yet speak with any gambler and very often =93chance had nothing to do with it.=94 --That is the paradoxical nature of Chaos: that a single event can be perceived, and is perceived, thus affecting its own actions, from such a multiplicity of points that it can appear simultaneously to be =93pure hazard,=94 or =93Fate,=94 =93meant to be,=94 or =93the Will of the Individu= al/God=94 asserting its =93triumph in adversity=94 over =93out of control=94 situati= ons, etc etc. Poets employ imposed forms of =93Chance Operations=94 on various mater= ials, presenting the =93chance results=94 as demonstrations of =93impersonal=94 o= r =93found=94 poetry. However, by the very construction of a =93Method of Operations=94 i= n limiting the quantity of data/material being worked with, is there not a limit being set on the basically illimitable, and so-by ruling out a good deal of what is actually =93chance operating?=94 The I Ching, for example, deliberately limits the number of lines employed, so that a sense of order arises out of the seeming Chaos and so demonstrates The Way to be taken in = a particular situation. The key to =93an assertion of the independent, accidental, chaotic power, o= f poetry=94 might be for starters to eliminate the =93assertion.=94 =93Assert= ion=94 in such close provenance to the word =93power=94 reminds one that assertions a= re just that, assertions of a =93power=94 that Knows, or is Presumed to Know.= =94 The =93author=94 as =93authority=94 in other words, and, by being a poet, being= an authority on Poetry and what it has or not to do with, what its intentions and limits are. Does poetry care that =93no one=94 listens to it? Or is i= t only the poet who does? How does the poet even know if =93poetry=94 cares o= r not? Does a =93poem=94 or =93poetry=94 always do what the author/poet autho= rizes, what he or she intends it to do ? Is not the assertion of =93the independent, accidental, power of, poetry=94= in itself a political action, in that it is a =93declaration of independence= =94 from something, and, in this case, specifically, from a Political Poetry? How can an assertion of the =93accidental power of poetry=94 be made , as a= n assertion? Is there not something in an assertion which rules out precisel= y the accidental possibilities, intentions, of the assertion? When one writes of =93power=94 in any context, may it not be associated precisely with the = power of =93authority,=94 of Political power,=94 =93the Power of the Word,=94 the= power of =93the author=94 and so remain well within the domain of am encounter with power in al its guises, political and not? It has become an increasingly =93powerfully=94 argued position of power whi= ch has especially since the eve of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq been asserting that poetry has nothing to do with the political, that its =93pow= er=94 lies elsewhere, perhaps not even in the poet=97or not even in the poem itse= lf. From one viewpoint, one might =93see this=94 as the assertion of an elitist position =93above the mere fray=94 of the political and the rest of the =93= bad objects=94 which need not be claimed among those belonging to Poetry. If poetry, then, is actually the =93independent, accidental, power, of poetry=94=97might it not be just as independent of this taking of an apolit= ical stance as of a political? If its truly accidental, might it not accidently run into politics on its way to the non political poem? Of poetry as power, might it not use its power against anyone who makes such assertions as the claim to know what the power of poetry is? I think that when one makes such absolutist rhetorical statements about poetry, it is well to recall that they are indeed rhetorical statements. These are not statements of fact, but of belief, of a choice between what the writer delineates as an =93either/or=94 rather than as a completely ope= n ended situation, in which poetry may be seen, heard, listened, written by, for, with, to any one or no one, or by, to, with, for no one, any one, a on= e or a few or some or many and so on. To assert that Poetry has =93nothing= to do with politics=94 is to be kept in mind as the assertion of a specific p= oet in a very specific time and place, and within the historical context of tha= t poet=92s nation, then=97now=97being at War on multiple fronts in the Middle= East, Colombia and North Eastern Africa, as well as being torn apart by various =93warring factions=94 within the nation, including, as the assertion makes evident, within the nation=92s various poetries and poetics, poets and grou= ps of poets. Since the eve of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq, as well as during al the time the Invasion and attempted occupation of Afghanistan and many othe= r countries, most recently Haiti, from some points of view=97it has become popular to invoke the idea that poetry has nothing to do with the political= . Amiri Baraka has written that for some large segments of the poetry writing community, especially among academic and academic-related poets and poetries, this apolitical position may have to do with maintaining job security in the face of an inquisitive and forceful Homeland Security. Certainly as the times grow worse economically and culturally, such an assertion of a poet=92s position might need to be more than ever emphasized=97after al a self-proclaimed non political poet is likely to be far less trouble than those speaking out about the conditions of the academy, or of students, or of themselves or any other cause related to the academy or State. Granted that Amiri Baraka as a political poet will take a political view of those professing to be non-political, there is always the =93probability,=94 sinc= e he is also a poet, of his viewpoint being as much of a =93poetic=94 one as any other poet=92s. Whether one agrees or disagrees with his position=97does it= not involve one with politics at least in order to deny one=92s involvement in = it? I like very much Murat=92s expression =93the independent, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry;=94 I think for myself the difficulty with it arises with in the context it is expressed in: that of assertions, of quotations from =93authorities=94 and so forth. That is, this manner of contextualizing such =93independent, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry= =94 basically denies the existence of al these elements by making of them an =93either/or=94 statement of assertion, a taking of sides against inclusivi= ty in poetry, the denial of its power to behave out of the poet=92s control, out = of even its own control . . . By imposing criteria, as I indicated earlier, one is attempting to control the direction and elements of the discussion. By imposing criteria, one is limiting what a poet, what a poem what a poetry and poetics may be. This is because, I think, it has to do with the idea that a poet, a poem, a poetry, a poetics, is involved with a seeking for something, even if that something has nothing to do with readers, listeners, writers at all, it is still a search for poetry as something which exists in such a such condition, of which one can be at a certain point and level, sure. One has faith, then , that it exists, it must exist=97 For many years I have been working with and thinking on the Found, which is something very often =96I would say nearly always in many ways though not =93all=94 necessarily----independent, accidental and chaotic. Picasso stat= ed: =93I do not seek, I find.=94 (Note he is speaking only for himself, not the overall run of artists, not making an assertion other than of his own and own work--) The more I have worked with l, lived with, though on this little phrase, the more profound I find it the more profound I see the gulf betwee= n the Search, the Seeker and the one who finds. The latter is operating in the area which Paul Celan writes of, in which =93Poetry no longer imposes itself, but exposes itself.=94 One does not know what one may find, whether= by accident, by being independent of preconceived images, ideas and dogmas, or open wide to the actions and elements of that chaotic power not only of poetry but of anything which one =93comes across,=94 meets in one=92s rando= m, destination-less, =93wanderings about.=94 By the very accidental, independent, chaotic power of the Found, the poetry= , the poem exposing itself may be political, it might not be=97who knows? Is = the one who finds even a poet? By which I mean does the one who finds impose already the limits of the so called =93poetic=94 on what it finds exposed a= s =93poetry?=94 Is it not perhaps that poetry, a poem, might be speaking, wri= ting, al of the time=97and that it is not that no one listens to this or reads it= , it=92s that perhaps no one recognizes that is always already speaking, writing, listening=97 --and in the great vanity of =93man=92s/woman=92s response=94 or not, in h= is/her hearing or not, in the immense vanity of her/his=92s assertions=97or not=97= these very things ever ongoing al around one at every instant are being completel= y ignored=97not so much =93unheard, unseen, untouched=94 as simply=97rendered= deaf, dumb and blind not to mention =93non-existent=94 but by the power of assert= ions regarding things which are truly Outside a human=92s control? Thus the assertion that not only does no one listen to poetry, but that poetry migh= t also be listening to no one=97a kind of cancelling out of negatives . . . leaving one with the assertion of=97what? A conflict? A drama? A void . . = . abhorred by Nature-- For myself, the assertion that poetry has nothing to do with politics is a very political one, in that it is limiting what the action, the elements of a poem, of poetry, of poetics is, it is limiting the actions by poets and groups of poets as wel as depriving them of vast areas of elements of materials to use. For myself, this is a deeply political act, for in denyin= g the politics of its political act, the assertion is beginning to use that form of sophism one encounters non stop in the media, which has been used t= o drag a country into one War after another while its poets=92 rhetorics are turned towards a critique of critiquing the conditions of poetry in the sam= e manner that the polices of the State critique and essay to make irrelevant and non-existent any critique of its policies, increasingly dependent on a language of erasure and denial, so that one wil not notice that the proud election of a Black President means not the =93end to racism=94 in America = any more than it lessens the support for the world=92s one Apartheid State. Th= e only way to juggle such contradictions as this nation=92s policies embody daily, is to also make the assertion that, along with poetry, one has nothing to do with politics. To deny the contradictions is to say that things that are opposites are the same. War=3DPeace. Love =3DHate, etc Wha= t does Poetry =3D then? Non-Politics, Non Poetry---??? Poetry=3DPoetry!!!! = Yet who decides what Poetry is? The greatest victory for the State is when no one and nothing has anything to do with politics. =93Let them write poetry!!!=94=97as =93no one listens = to it=94 and, perhaps, poetry does not listen to the poets either! One might even find this situation developing: *In a jerky and ferocious style, [Defoe's] essay argued that literature should be written by non-literary people, just as politics should be and indeed was being taken over by non-politicians, as (Defoe) was delighted to observe. The corresponding revolution in writing, Defoe went on to say, would, in a sense, abolish literature itself. When poetry is written by non-poets and read by non-readers.* *Roberto Bolano, Distant Star*** *As cited in *2010-03-09: Outsider Poems, A Mini-Anthology in Progress (14)= : David Baptiste Chirot, Non-Poetry for Non-Readers (Poems from Guant=E1namo) At Jerome Rothenberg=92s http://poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/2010/03/outsider-poems-mini-anthology-i= n.html Also appeared at: =B7 *KAURAB* Online :: A Bengali Poetry Webzine :: Translation Site The circumstances of the *poets*, the Pentagon supervision of censorships, = * ...* With the *Guantanamo* Poems, as Flagg Miller suggests in his excellent preface, *....* *David* Baptiste *Chirot* is an amazing litterateur, artist= , reader and critic. *...* www.*kaurab*.com/english/books/*guantanamo*.html - Cached =B7 *DAVID*-BAPTISTE *CHIROT*: New Books @ *Kaurab* Feb 5, 2010 *...* (also has Visual Poetry by *chirot*). *Kaurab* Translatio= n Site Poems from *Guant=E1namo* The Detainees Speak *David* Baptite *Chirot*= * ...* *david*baptiste*chirot*.blogspot.com/2010/02/new-books-*kaurab*.h *Thing Language* This ocean, humiliating in its disguises Tougher than anything. No one listens to poetry. The ocean Does not mean to be listened to. A drop Or crash of water. It means Nothing. It Is bread and butter Pepper and salt. The death That young men hope for. Aimlessly It pounds the shore. White and aimless signals. No One listens to poetry. > Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:05:46 -0400 > From: muratnn@GMAIL.COM > Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Hi Alan, David, > > Here is a quote from my review of Ed Foster's book of poems *What He Ough= t > To Know*: > > "For Ed Foster. Spicer=92s comment, =93no one listens to poetry,=94 is at= the > heart of a poetic revolution. He transforms this existential condition into > Walter Benjamin=92s suggestion that poetry listens to no one: =93Art... p= osits > man=92s physical and spiritual existence, but in none of its works is it > concerned with his response. No poem is intended for the reader, no picture > for the beholder, no symphony for the listener.=94 This quotation appears= in > Foster=92s poem, =93Poetry Has Nothing To Do With Politics.=94 More than = a denial > of politics, the idea in the title is an assertion of the independent, > accidental, chaotic power, of poetry." > > Ciao, > > Murat > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, David Chirot wrote: > > > Like Alan, i don't understand the "should"--other than in such "extenuating > > circumstances" as in cases of the coerced, of desperation, of fear or > > perhaps the obscurely shifted desire to "do the right thing" in some > > inwardly confused sense of "moral duty" or "moral suasion." > > > > Or--in the cases of propaganda and advertising. > > > > A Russian artist writes that language is a fascism not because it silences > > or censors, but because it forces one to speak. > > > > Such would be the case of the "should" perhaps-- > > > > A writer writes for those who read, who in turn may read for those who do > > not read. > > > > A writer writes--for whom? Oneself and other strangers? > > > > I've made poems written for stones, tree, the air, a ray of light--without > > even the idea of a person involved-- > > > > In this sense one may write for those "illiterates" or "inanimates" who do > > not read yet understand and know the Unwritten-- > > > > > > > > "The hills know but do not tell" as Emily Dickinson writes-- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:19:47 -0400 Reply-To: jon@wordforword.info Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jonathan Minton Subject: Word For/Word #16 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm pleased to announce that Word For/Word #16 is online at www.wordforword.info with poetry and visuals by Scott Abels, Elizabeth Winder, Donald Dunbar, Naomi Beth Tarle, Josef Kaplan, Cherise Bacalski, Emily Kendal Frey, Carlyle Baker, Crane Giamo, Steve Roggenbuck, erica lewis, Reed Altemus, Alexandra Mattraw, Stephanie Martz, Ashley VanDoorn, Karl Kempton, Breonna Krafft, James Capozzi, Sasha Steensen, and Jackie Clark, plus essays, reviews, and special features on Post-Neo-Absurdism (co-edited by Michael Peters) and Anne Blonstein (co-Edited by Kathrin Schaeppi) Cheers! Jonathan Minton www.wordforword.info + + + "Adieu," by James Capozzi Adieu bridge like a horizon with stairs and a scar and an arch with infamous paints, red balustrade Adieu bridge I bang feet on Adieu tall chalet your mauve torture, violent grays your bent and sainted Haitian radio Adieu chalet of the sweet potato Adieu vile sets, the oblique life that paves black the squalid grass befits me Adieu villain city, death of memory ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:52:17 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Contact email address needed for Joanne Kyger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone got Joanne Kyger's email address? I used to have it, but have lost it. Best, Jeff ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:32:28 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mary Kasimor Subject: Re: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What a brave woman and an amazing thing--people listen=A0to and read=A0poet= ry in Arab culture. It has to be a tradition that goes back centuries. =A0 --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Nicholas Karavatos wro= te: From: Nicholas Karavatos Subject: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 3:01 AM Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem Saudi poet Hessa Hilal lashed out at hard-line clerics' religious edicts in= verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of "American Idol." AP Published: 17:36 March 23, 2010 Reader comments (12) Dubai: It was a startling voice of protest at a startling venue. Covered he= ad-to-toe in black, a Saudi woman lashed out at hard-line Muslim clerics' h= arsh religious edicts in verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of "A= merican Idol." Well, not quite "American Idol": Contestants compete not in singing but in = traditional Arabic poetry. Over the past episodes, poets sitting on an elab= orate stage before a live audience have recited odes to the beauty of Bedou= in life and the glories of their rulers or mourning the gap between rich an= d poor. Then last week, Hessa Hilal, only her eyes visible through her veil, delive= red a blistering poem against Muslim preachers "who sit in the position of = power" but are "frightening" people with their fatwas, or religious edicts,= and "preying like a wolf" on those seeking peace. Her poem got loud cheers from the audience and won her a place in the compe= tition's finals, to be aired on Wednesday. It also brought her death threats, posted on several Islamic militant web s= ites. Hessa shrugs off the controversy. "My poetry has always been provocative," she told The Associated Press in a= n interview. "It's a way to express myself and give voice to Arab women, si= lenced by those who have hijacked our culture and our religion." Her poem was seen as a response to Shaikh Abdul Rahman Al Barrak, a promine= nt cleric in Saudi Arabia who recently issued a fatwa saying those who call= for the mingling of men and women should be considered infidels, punishabl= e by death. But more broadly, it was seen as addressing any of many hard-line clerics i= n Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the region who hold a wide influence throug= h television programmes, university positions or web sites. "Killing a human being is so easy for them, it is always an option," she to= ld the AP. Poetry holds a prominent place in Arab culture, and some poets in the Middl= e East have a fan base akin to those of rock stars. The programme, The Million's Poet, is a chance for poets to show off their = original work, airing live weekly on satellite television across the Arab w= orld from Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates. Contestants are graded on voice and style of recitation, but also on their = subject matter, said Sultan Al Amimi, one of the three judges on the show a= nd a manager of Abu Dhabi's Poetry Academy. Hilal's 15-verse poem was in a form known as Nabati, native to nomadic trib= es of the Arabian Peninsula. She criticised extremism that she told AP is "= creeping into our society" through fatwas. "I have seen evil in the eyes of fatwas, at a time when the permitted is be= ing twisted into the forbidden," she said in the poem. She called such edic= ts "a monster that emerged from its hiding place" whenever "the veil is lif= ted from the face of truth." She described hardline clerics as "vicious in voice, barbaric, angry and bl= ind, wearing death as a robe cinched with a belt," in an apparent reference= to suicide bombers' explosives belts. The three judges gave her the highest marks for her performance, praising h= er for addressing a controversial topic. That, plus voting from the 2,000 p= eople in the audience and text messages from viewers, put her through to th= e final round. "Hessa Hilal is a courageous poet," said Al Amimi. "She expressed her opini= on against the kind of fatwas that affect people's lives and raised an alar= m against these ad hoc fatwas coming from certain scholars who are inciting= extremism." Fatwas are not legally binding and it is up to individual Muslims to follow= them. Clerics of all ideological stripes pronounced fatwas on nearly every= aspect of people's lives, from how they should deal with members of other = religions to what they can watch on television. Hessa said she had heard about the death threats posted on Islamic extremis= t Web sites and was concerned, but "not enough to send me into hiding." What's more on her mind is how sudden fame will change her quiet family lif= e at home in the Saudi capital, Riyadh. "I worry how I will be perceived after the show is over, when judgment is p= assed and people begin to talk about my performance and ideas," said Hessa,= a mother of four who has published poetry and previously was a poetry edit= or at the Arab daily Al Hayat. "I worry the lights of fame will affect my s= imple and quiet existence." The Million's Poet was launched in 2006 by the government's Abu Dhabi Autho= rity for Culture and Heritage to encourage poetry. In this, the fourth season, 48 contestants from 12 Arab countries competed,= including several women along with Hessa. On Wednesday, Hilal will be joined by five other poets in the final round. = The winner of the $1.3 million grand prize will be declared a week later on= March 31. Their topics are already known. One of Hessa's rivals will address terroris= m. Another woman in the finals, Jaza Al Baqmi, will reflect on the role of = women. Hessa says her poem will tackle the media, but wouldn't elaborate so as not= to spoil the surprise. "My message to those who hear me is love, compassion and peace," Hessa said= . "We all have to share a small planet and we need to learn how to live tog= ether." What do you think of this issue? Has the poet overstepped the line? Or do s= uch acts promote dialogue? Join the debate... http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-woman-blasts-clerics-in-tv= -contest-poem-1.601907 Nicholas Karavatos Dept of Language & Literature American University of Sharjah PO Box 26666 Sharjah United Arab Emirates =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:56:02 -0400 Reply-To: halvard@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" In-Reply-To: <334711.87615.qm@web51803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And here in the US it goes back at least . . . oh, fifteen minutes. Hal follow this link to The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye, my latest collection -- http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/14481250-chalk-editions Halvard Johnson ================ halvard@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Mary Kasimor wrote: > What a brave woman and an amazing thing--people listen to and read poetry > in Arab culture. It has to be a tradition that goes back centuries. > > > > --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Nicholas Karavatos > wrote: > > > From: Nicholas Karavatos > Subject: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 3:01 AM > > > Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem > > Saudi poet Hessa Hilal lashed out at hard-line clerics' religious edicts in > verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of "American Idol." > > AP > Published: 17:36 March 23, 2010 > Reader comments (12) > > > Dubai: It was a startling voice of protest at a startling venue. Covered > head-to-toe in black, a Saudi woman lashed out at hard-line Muslim clerics' > harsh religious edicts in verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of > "American Idol." > > Well, not quite "American Idol": Contestants compete not in singing but in > traditional Arabic poetry. Over the past episodes, poets sitting on an > elaborate stage before a live audience have recited odes to the beauty of > Bedouin life and the glories of their rulers or mourning the gap between > rich and poor. > > Then last week, Hessa Hilal, only her eyes visible through her veil, > delivered a blistering poem against Muslim preachers "who sit in the > position of power" but are "frightening" people with their fatwas, or > religious edicts, and "preying like a wolf" on those seeking peace. > > Her poem got loud cheers from the audience and won her a place in the > competition's finals, to be aired on Wednesday. > > It also brought her death threats, posted on several Islamic militant web > sites. > > Hessa shrugs off the controversy. > > "My poetry has always been provocative," she told The Associated Press in > an interview. "It's a way to express myself and give voice to Arab women, > silenced by those who have hijacked our culture and our religion." > > Her poem was seen as a response to Shaikh Abdul Rahman Al Barrak, a > prominent cleric in Saudi Arabia who recently issued a fatwa saying those > who call for the mingling of men and women should be considered infidels, > punishable by death. > > But more broadly, it was seen as addressing any of many hard-line clerics > in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the region who hold a wide influence > through television programmes, university positions or web sites. > "Killing a human being is so easy for them, it is always an option," she > told the AP. > > Poetry holds a prominent place in Arab culture, and some poets in the > Middle East have a fan base akin to those of rock stars. > > The programme, The Million's Poet, is a chance for poets to show off their > original work, airing live weekly on satellite television across the Arab > world from Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates. > > Contestants are graded on voice and style of recitation, but also on their > subject matter, said Sultan Al Amimi, one of the three judges on the show > and a manager of Abu Dhabi's Poetry Academy. > > Hilal's 15-verse poem was in a form known as Nabati, native to nomadic > tribes of the Arabian Peninsula. She criticised extremism that she told AP > is "creeping into our society" through fatwas. > > "I have seen evil in the eyes of fatwas, at a time when the permitted is > being twisted into the forbidden," she said in the poem. She called such > edicts "a monster that emerged from its hiding place" whenever "the veil is > lifted from the face of truth." > > She described hardline clerics as "vicious in voice, barbaric, angry and > blind, wearing death as a robe cinched with a belt," in an apparent > reference to suicide bombers' explosives belts. > > The three judges gave her the highest marks for her performance, praising > her for addressing a controversial topic. That, plus voting from the 2,000 > people in the audience and text messages from viewers, put her through to > the final round. > > "Hessa Hilal is a courageous poet," said Al Amimi. "She expressed her > opinion against the kind of fatwas that affect people's lives and raised an > alarm against these ad hoc fatwas coming from certain scholars who are > inciting extremism." > > Fatwas are not legally binding and it is up to individual Muslims to follow > them. Clerics of all ideological stripes pronounced fatwas on nearly every > aspect of people's lives, from how they should deal with members of other > religions to what they can watch on television. > > Hessa said she had heard about the death threats posted on Islamic > extremist Web sites and was concerned, but "not enough to send me into > hiding." > > What's more on her mind is how sudden fame will change her quiet family > life at home in the Saudi capital, Riyadh. > > "I worry how I will be perceived after the show is over, when judgment is > passed and people begin to talk about my performance and ideas," said Hessa, > a mother of four who has published poetry and previously was a poetry editor > at the Arab daily Al Hayat. "I worry the lights of fame will affect my > simple and quiet existence." > > The Million's Poet was launched in 2006 by the government's Abu Dhabi > Authority for Culture and Heritage to encourage poetry. > > In this, the fourth season, 48 contestants from 12 Arab countries competed, > including several women along with Hessa. > > On Wednesday, Hilal will be joined by five other poets in the final round. > The winner of the $1.3 million grand prize will be declared a week later on > March 31. > > Their topics are already known. One of Hessa's rivals will address > terrorism. Another woman in the finals, Jaza Al Baqmi, will reflect on the > role of women. > > Hessa says her poem will tackle the media, but wouldn't elaborate so as not > to spoil the surprise. > "My message to those who hear me is love, compassion and peace," Hessa > said. "We all have to share a small planet and we need to learn how to live > together." > > > > What do you think of this issue? Has the poet overstepped the line? Or do > such acts promote dialogue? Join the debate... > > > > http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-woman-blasts-clerics-in-tv-contest-poem-1.601907 > > > > > > > > > > Nicholas Karavatos > Dept of Language & Literature > American University of Sharjah > PO Box 26666 > Sharjah > United Arab Emirates > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:37:28 -0800 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: carol dorf Subject: Re: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" In-Reply-To: <334711.87615.qm@web51803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm impressed that so many people care passionately about poetry -- let's imagine a popular TV show where poets (dressed in Chadors!) recited their poetry, and were judged by the poetry, not by all the externals of "performing poetry." On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Mary Kasimor wrote: > What a brave woman and an amazing thing--people listen to and read poetry > in Arab culture. It has to be a tradition that goes back centuries. > > > > --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Nicholas Karavatos > wrote: > > > From: Nicholas Karavatos > Subject: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 3:01 AM > > > Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem > > Saudi poet Hessa Hilal lashed out at hard-line clerics' religious edicts in > verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of "American Idol." > > AP > Published: 17:36 March 23, 2010 > Reader comments (12) > > > Dubai: It was a startling voice of protest at a startling venue. Covered > head-to-toe in black, a Saudi woman lashed out at hard-line Muslim clerics' > harsh religious edicts in verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of > "American Idol." > > Well, not quite "American Idol": Contestants compete not in singing but in > traditional Arabic poetry. Over the past episodes, poets sitting on an > elaborate stage before a live audience have recited odes to the beauty of > Bedouin life and the glories of their rulers or mourning the gap between > rich and poor. > > Then last week, Hessa Hilal, only her eyes visible through her veil, > delivered a blistering poem against Muslim preachers "who sit in the > position of power" but are "frightening" people with their fatwas, or > religious edicts, and "preying like a wolf" on those seeking peace. > > Her poem got loud cheers from the audience and won her a place in the > competition's finals, to be aired on Wednesday. > > It also brought her death threats, posted on several Islamic militant web > sites. > > Hessa shrugs off the controversy. > > "My poetry has always been provocative," she told The Associated Press in > an interview. "It's a way to express myself and give voice to Arab women, > silenced by those who have hijacked our culture and our religion." > > Her poem was seen as a response to Shaikh Abdul Rahman Al Barrak, a > prominent cleric in Saudi Arabia who recently issued a fatwa saying those > who call for the mingling of men and women should be considered infidels, > punishable by death. > > But more broadly, it was seen as addressing any of many hard-line clerics > in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the region who hold a wide influence > through television programmes, university positions or web sites. > "Killing a human being is so easy for them, it is always an option," she > told the AP. > > Poetry holds a prominent place in Arab culture, and some poets in the > Middle East have a fan base akin to those of rock stars. > > The programme, The Million's Poet, is a chance for poets to show off their > original work, airing live weekly on satellite television across the Arab > world from Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates. > > Contestants are graded on voice and style of recitation, but also on their > subject matter, said Sultan Al Amimi, one of the three judges on the show > and a manager of Abu Dhabi's Poetry Academy. > > Hilal's 15-verse poem was in a form known as Nabati, native to nomadic > tribes of the Arabian Peninsula. She criticised extremism that she told AP > is "creeping into our society" through fatwas. > > "I have seen evil in the eyes of fatwas, at a time when the permitted is > being twisted into the forbidden," she said in the poem. She called such > edicts "a monster that emerged from its hiding place" whenever "the veil is > lifted from the face of truth." > > She described hardline clerics as "vicious in voice, barbaric, angry and > blind, wearing death as a robe cinched with a belt," in an apparent > reference to suicide bombers' explosives belts. > > The three judges gave her the highest marks for her performance, praising > her for addressing a controversial topic. That, plus voting from the 2,000 > people in the audience and text messages from viewers, put her through to > the final round. > > "Hessa Hilal is a courageous poet," said Al Amimi. "She expressed her > opinion against the kind of fatwas that affect people's lives and raised an > alarm against these ad hoc fatwas coming from certain scholars who are > inciting extremism." > > Fatwas are not legally binding and it is up to individual Muslims to follow > them. Clerics of all ideological stripes pronounced fatwas on nearly every > aspect of people's lives, from how they should deal with members of other > religions to what they can watch on television. > > Hessa said she had heard about the death threats posted on Islamic > extremist Web sites and was concerned, but "not enough to send me into > hiding." > > What's more on her mind is how sudden fame will change her quiet family > life at home in the Saudi capital, Riyadh. > > "I worry how I will be perceived after the show is over, when judgment is > passed and people begin to talk about my performance and ideas," said Hessa, > a mother of four who has published poetry and previously was a poetry editor > at the Arab daily Al Hayat. "I worry the lights of fame will affect my > simple and quiet existence." > > The Million's Poet was launched in 2006 by the government's Abu Dhabi > Authority for Culture and Heritage to encourage poetry. > > In this, the fourth season, 48 contestants from 12 Arab countries competed, > including several women along with Hessa. > > On Wednesday, Hilal will be joined by five other poets in the final round. > The winner of the $1.3 million grand prize will be declared a week later on > March 31. > > Their topics are already known. One of Hessa's rivals will address > terrorism. Another woman in the finals, Jaza Al Baqmi, will reflect on the > role of women. > > Hessa says her poem will tackle the media, but wouldn't elaborate so as not > to spoil the surprise. > "My message to those who hear me is love, compassion and peace," Hessa > said. "We all have to share a small planet and we need to learn how to live > together." > > > > What do you think of this issue? Has the poet overstepped the line? Or do > such acts promote dialogue? Join the debate... > > > > http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-woman-blasts-clerics-in-tv-contest-poem-1.601907 > > > > > > > > > > Nicholas Karavatos > Dept of Language & Literature > American University of Sharjah > PO Box 26666 > Sharjah > United Arab Emirates > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:38:44 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: peter ganick Subject: It's Only Po-Et-Ry [apologies for cross-posting] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 an important new book by Peter Ganick from white sky books: ** * [image: [cover thumbnail]] It's Only Po-Et-Ry And I Like It * available at www.lulu.com/content/8488723 *567 pages, $25. paperbound, * *download *free *until April 6, 2010.* * * "Ganick registers in their course the semiotic pulses of language--its rhythms and teeming vocabularies--its isness, its thisness and itness, this continuous unforming and forming of itself, spooling out across the verses. It forms *here* by virtue of a linked idea or analogous theme; *there* through correspondence of sound; again by ingesting the flotsam of brand-names and truisms littering the landscape, for the nth time--unexpectedly--through spans or lacunae of logic. We can imagine Thought staring through various planes of language like planes of glass, turning them with and against each other, rotating their intersecting transparencies, a cognitive kaleidoscope dancing with the light that passes through it in its motion." -- Olchar Lindsann ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:52:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Abecedarium by Peter Lamborn Wilson Comments: To: British & Irish poets , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, fluxlist@yahoogroups.com, dreamtime@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New from Xexoxial Editions Abecedarium by Peter Lamborn Wilson http://xexoxial.org/is/abecedarium/by/peter_lamborn_wilson 2010. 8.25 x 8.25, 68 pages, b + w. $10.00 + $3 shipping. ISBN 0-9770049-8-8 | EAN-13 978-0-9770049-8-0 Alphapoetic meditation on the etymology of the English alphabet with diagrams by the author. Peter Lamborn Wilson=92s quick wit and poetic intelligence add immeasurably to the small store of recent art and poetry (Mac Low, Berman, Silliman, Bok, Johns, to name a few) celebrating or utilitizng the lore and wonder of alphabetic writing. As with Mac Low and Berman in particular, Wilson=92s focus is on the Hebrew alphabet, coterminous with the Phoenician at the alphabet=92s beginnings: a meditation, visual and verbal, on the shape, form, history, and praxis of the letters and signs in question. The resultant Abecedarium, reads like poetry or what we now take poetry to be: short and tight prose versets that bring to life a world of lore and tradition, and by so doing, make it new. A book to read again and again, and a lettristic delight. =97Jerome Rothenberg Abecedarium by Peter Lamborn WilsonThis remarkable lexicon explores tensions between life in a world before the State and the emergence of the alphabet, or the origin of the world as we purport to know it. Amidst the reign and terror of nonsense, in a land where =91everything is believable and nothing knowable,=92 Peter Lamborn Wilson=97at the peak of his extraordinary power=97tutors us in the old ways in an offering of both knowledge and wisdom. =97Ammiel Alcalay Review copies available upon request. Xexoxial Editions 10375 County Hway Alphabet La Farge, WI 54639 perspicacity@xexoxial.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:34:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Deborah A. Meadows" Subject: FW: Deborah Meadows' "How, the means" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Poetics friends, Shameless self-promotion, yet Guy has an interesting flier of his design in= the link below. Deborah ________________________________________ From: Guy Bennett [guy.bennett@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:20 PM To: Guy Bennett Subject: Deborah Meadows' "How, the means" Dear Reader, I=92m writing to let you know that How, the means by Deborah Meadows has ju= st been published by Mindmade Books. How, the means was written after Bill Viola=92s video installation Fall int= o Paradise and rings with echoes of the Tristan legend as the latter does. = The fragmentary style of these small, tight lyrics only hints at the works = that inspired it, revealing glimpses of them through the meshes of the text= . 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:11:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Skip Fox Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Such a choice seems precluded by earlier (and I believe, more significant) decisions concerning what poetry is and what its writing might be in one's life. Of course this choice might be seen as a part of those earlier decisions, though it is probably neither distinct or central. To be distinct and significant, such a choice seems as though it would have to have been an initial one or one very early in the process. I can imagine it happening that way, but rarely. Or maybe only by beginning poets who are thinking of a career, of how poetry might serve them. Question # 4: Should a poet, if confronted with a choice, write a piece for other poets who read poetry or write for an audience of everyone who will read it? ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:26:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Iris Law Subject: Poetry Prompt Contest - Deadline April 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The *Lantern Review *Blog is hosting a prompt contest in honor of National Poetry Month 2010. Three runners-up and one winner will have the writing prompts that they submit featured on four successive Fridays during the month of April. In addition, the winner will receive a signed copy of Monica Youn's new poetry collection, *Ignatz*, thanks to the generous sponsorship of Four Way Books. The deadline for entry is 11:59 PM EST on April 1st. All you have to do is leave a comment on our contest post with your favorite writing exercise and some form of contact information (and if you're really uncomfortable with leaving contact info in a comment, you can also leave your prompt in the comments but email us separately at editors@lanternreview.com). Here's the link: * http://lanternreview.com/blog/2010/03/23/announcing-our-2010-national-poetry-month-prompt-contest/ *Best of luck! *Lantern Review* Editorial Baord Iris A. Law, Editor Mia Ayumi Malhotra, Associate Editor -- Iris A. Law MFA Candidate Department of Creative Writing University of Notre Dame (609) 560-2011 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:59:12 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Al Filreis Subject: PoemTalk #30 released today: "the poem is remembering me" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Today we are releasing PoemTalk episode #30, which features Robert Grenier, Bob Perelman, and Charles Bernstein discussing two poems by William Carlos Williams selected by Grenier. http://www.poemtalk.org http://www.poetryfoundation.org - Al Filreis Al Filreis Kelly Professor Faculty Dir., Kelly Writers House Dir., Center for Programs in Contemporary Writing University of Pennsylvania on the web: http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis blog: http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/blog ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:11:53 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Thomas savage Subject: Re: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is wonderful.=A0 That there is a poetry "Idol" anywhere in the world w= here a poet can win a million dollars is astonishing.=A0 All power to this = courageous woman who dared to speak out against the medieval conditions in = which she finds herself trapped. --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Nicholas Karavatos wro= te: From: Nicholas Karavatos Subject: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 4:01 AM Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem Saudi poet Hessa Hilal lashed out at hard-line clerics' religious edicts in= verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of "American Idol." AP Published: 17:36 March 23, 2010 Reader comments (12) Dubai: It was a startling voice of protest at a startling venue. Covered he= ad-to-toe in black, a Saudi woman lashed out at hard-line Muslim clerics' h= arsh religious edicts in verse on live TV at a popular Arabic version of "A= merican Idol." Well, not quite "American Idol": Contestants compete not in singing but in = traditional Arabic poetry. Over the past episodes, poets sitting on an elab= orate stage before a live audience have recited odes to the beauty of Bedou= in life and the glories of their rulers or mourning the gap between rich an= d poor. Then last week, Hessa Hilal, only her eyes visible through her veil, delive= red a blistering poem against Muslim preachers "who sit in the position of = power" but are "frightening" people with their fatwas, or religious edicts,= and "preying like a wolf" on those seeking peace. Her poem got loud cheers from the audience and won her a place in the compe= tition's finals, to be aired on Wednesday. It also brought her death threats, posted on several Islamic militant web s= ites. Hessa shrugs off the controversy. "My poetry has always been provocative," she told The Associated Press in a= n interview. "It's a way to express myself and give voice to Arab women, si= lenced by those who have hijacked our culture and our religion." Her poem was seen as a response to Shaikh Abdul Rahman Al Barrak, a promine= nt cleric in Saudi Arabia who recently issued a fatwa saying those who call= for the mingling of men and women should be considered infidels, punishabl= e by death. But more broadly, it was seen as addressing any of many hard-line clerics i= n Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the region who hold a wide influence throug= h television programmes, university positions or web sites. "Killing a human being is so easy for them, it is always an option," she to= ld the AP. Poetry holds a prominent place in Arab culture, and some poets in the Middl= e East have a fan base akin to those of rock stars. The programme, The Million's Poet, is a chance for poets to show off their = original work, airing live weekly on satellite television across the Arab w= orld from Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates. Contestants are graded on voice and style of recitation, but also on their = subject matter, said Sultan Al Amimi, one of the three judges on the show a= nd a manager of Abu Dhabi's Poetry Academy. Hilal's 15-verse poem was in a form known as Nabati, native to nomadic trib= es of the Arabian Peninsula. She criticised extremism that she told AP is "= creeping into our society" through fatwas. "I have seen evil in the eyes of fatwas, at a time when the permitted is be= ing twisted into the forbidden," she said in the poem. She called such edic= ts "a monster that emerged from its hiding place" whenever "the veil is lif= ted from the face of truth." She described hardline clerics as "vicious in voice, barbaric, angry and bl= ind, wearing death as a robe cinched with a belt," in an apparent reference= to suicide bombers' explosives belts. The three judges gave her the highest marks for her performance, praising h= er for addressing a controversial topic. That, plus voting from the 2,000 p= eople in the audience and text messages from viewers, put her through to th= e final round. "Hessa Hilal is a courageous poet," said Al Amimi. "She expressed her opini= on against the kind of fatwas that affect people's lives and raised an alar= m against these ad hoc fatwas coming from certain scholars who are inciting= extremism." Fatwas are not legally binding and it is up to individual Muslims to follow= them. Clerics of all ideological stripes pronounced fatwas on nearly every= aspect of people's lives, from how they should deal with members of other = religions to what they can watch on television. Hessa said she had heard about the death threats posted on Islamic extremis= t Web sites and was concerned, but "not enough to send me into hiding." What's more on her mind is how sudden fame will change her quiet family lif= e at home in the Saudi capital, Riyadh. "I worry how I will be perceived after the show is over, when judgment is p= assed and people begin to talk about my performance and ideas," said Hessa,= a mother of four who has published poetry and previously was a poetry edit= or at the Arab daily Al Hayat. "I worry the lights of fame will affect my s= imple and quiet existence." The Million's Poet was launched in 2006 by the government's Abu Dhabi Autho= rity for Culture and Heritage to encourage poetry. In this, the fourth season, 48 contestants from 12 Arab countries competed,= including several women along with Hessa. On Wednesday, Hilal will be joined by five other poets in the final round. = The winner of the $1.3 million grand prize will be declared a week later on= March 31. Their topics are already known. One of Hessa's rivals will address terroris= m. Another woman in the finals, Jaza Al Baqmi, will reflect on the role of = women. Hessa says her poem will tackle the media, but wouldn't elaborate so as not= to spoil the surprise. "My message to those who hear me is love, compassion and peace," Hessa said= . "We all have to share a small planet and we need to learn how to live tog= ether." What do you think of this issue? Has the poet overstepped the line? Or do s= uch acts promote dialogue? Join the debate... http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-woman-blasts-clerics-in-tv= -contest-poem-1.601907 Nicholas Karavatos Dept of Language & Literature American University of Sharjah PO Box 26666 Sharjah United Arab Emirates =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your = inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:42:54 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Writing and Cars (Creeley edition) Comments: To: Barry Schwabsky In-Reply-To: <69512.59422.qm@web65105.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wanting to take the car keys away from the kids, are you Barry? Lucky for y= ou=A0 and us, we ain't 17 years old anymore! Agreed. before we get taken ba= ck to Phedre, Hippolyte, chariots et al, personally, I am=A0 "carred" out! Good, favorite, walking poems, anyone? Or maybe I shd put that up on anothe= r ladder, thread, whatever it's called.=20 Stephen V http://stephenvincent.net/blog/ --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Barry Schwabsky wrote: From: Barry Schwabsky Subject: Re: Writing and Cars (Creeley edition) To: UKPOETRY@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 2:43 AM =0AAs we are now descending to what seems like the 10th generation of Creel= ey and Kerouac citations, I would like to move that this thread be closed d= own herewith. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:45:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Paul Siegell Subject: "hot pepper people" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" hey hey, wanted to share with you a new series of "poemics" that i've started send= ing out: @ Moria: http://bit.ly/cwAQNt @ Antique Children: http://bit.ly/aUIbkf and look for more in Word For/Word #18 and here: http://paulsiegell.blogspot.com/ thanks for taking a look! have a great week, paul> - 2010: wild life rifle fire=20 2009: jambandbootleg 2008: Poemergency Room reviews > http://bit.ly/4nW70h =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:11:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Re: 25 Questions, #4 . . . In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0 By imposing criteria, as I indicated earlier, one is attempting to control the direction and elements of the discussion. By imposing criteria, one is limiting what a poet, what a poem what a poetry and poetics may be. This is because, I think,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (what ???...)=C2=A0it has to do w= ith the idea that a poet, a poem, a poetry, a poetics, is involved with a=C2=A0=C2=A0( ...does? ...)seeking for somethi= ng, even if that something has nothing to do with readers, listeners,( ...all? ...=C2=A0)writers at al= l, it is still a search for poetry as something which exists in=C2=A0 (... of this? ...)such= a such condition, of which one can be at a certain point and level, sure.=C2=A0( ... ?? mean: po= et_in_hell: close caps)One has faith, then , that it exists, it must exist=E2=80=94 =C2=A0 ... but as i said earlier, watching, observing, listening to a mind unravel= is revealing ... of what, i'm not sure. btw, i liked thing language. --- On Sat, 3/27/10, David Chirot wrote: From: David Chirot Subject: Re: 25 Questions, #4 . . . To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 9:16 PM Dear Murat: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, David Chirot wrote: I've made poems written for stones, tree, the air, a ray of light--without even the idea of a person involved-- In this sense one may write for those "illiterates" or "inanimates" who do not read yet understand and know the Unwritten-- "The hills know but do not tell" as Emily Dickinson writes=E2=80=94 *Thing Language* This ocean, humiliating in its disguises Tougher than anything. No one listens to poetry. The ocean Does not mean to be listened to. A drop Or crash of water. It means Nothing. It Is bread and butter Pepper and salt. The death That young men hope for. Aimlessly It pounds the shore. White and aimless signals. No One listens to poetry. Note: Spicer writes that =E2=80=9Cno one listens to poetry.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 = He does NOT write that no one reads poetry.=C2=A0 After all, it takes reading his poem to know tha= t he wrote that no one listens to poetry . . . Are the poems only =E2=80=9Cwhite= and aimless signals=E2=80=9D when heard, even if one is not listening=E2=80=94a= s one does hear say such ongoing sounds as those of oceans and electricity lines night and day humming and whining in the weathers of a city . . or the country=E2=80= =94their =E2=80=9Cwritten=E2=80=9D manifestations seen as lines, calligraphic, still= or rocking in the winds,--=E2=80=9Cwhite and aimless=E2=80=9D as the space of the page, w= hich becomes written, black and with an aim=E2=80=94at least of the eyes-- when read . .= . does the meaningless unlistened to poetry and ocean only exist as a =E2=80=9Cspe= aker=E2=80=9D when read amid the white aimless signals of the page---a form of decoding . . . a misreading set down in writing=E2=80=94disinformation deliberately sp= awned by some unknown =E2=80=9Caim=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94=E2=80=9CThing Language=E2=80=9D= as a =E2=80=9Cthing to be read=E2=80=9D when =E2=80=9Cnot heard?=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94 For the letters among Murat and myself quoted from here, see below this present screed-- I am not playing devil=E2=80=99s advocate here; as you know I am very much = in sympathy with what you write.=C2=A0 On the other hand, I think all too ofte= n there is a too unquestioning welcoming of things which seem to prove the values for which one may be in search of, o r confident of, rather than a more open investigation into what it is that is always already existing al around one, hidden in plain site, sight, cite= . The statements, quotes, you write are beautiful and in the best sense, "noble." On the other hand, what you are writing of is based on a faith, an assumption, that indeed what Spicer, Benjamin and you write is "true." A point of view via the imagination is taken to be a "natural born fact, Jack." The ancient Romans had a saying that when an event occurs--one is to ask oneself:=C2=A0 who benefits? In Leonardo Sciascia's The Moro Affair, the author turns to Pasolini's statement of investigation:=C2=A0 "The first symptoms are in the language." You write: "the idea in the title {=E2=80=9C Poetry Has Nothing To Do With Politics=E2= =80=9D} is an assertion of the independent, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry." Might one not ask:=C2=A0 how can an assertion such as =E2=80=9CPoetry Has N= othing To Do With Politics =E2=80=9Cbe considered as having anything to do with "an inde= pendent, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry"? Is the assertion =E2=80=9CPoetry Has Nothing To Do With Politics=E2=80=9D b= y its rhetorical absolutism not in itself a denial of such independence, accidents, chaos, while being at the same time very much an assertion of POWER? Your statements, with the selected quotations denote a search for what poetry does, means, its existential condition=E2=80=94and so provides the =E2=80=9Cevidences=E2=80=9D which support the search=E2=80=94as a search im= plies=E2=80=94it is a search for something=E2=80=94an answer, a Holy Grail=E2=80=94a poem=E2=80=94 Benjamin was a person on continual searches=E2=80=94when he wrote with one = search in mind he wrote in the manner of the quotation here.=C2=A0 Elsewhere, for exa= mple when writing on Brecht (and/or under his influence) or the Surrealists, he was asking the questions related to his search for an actual PROGRAM: as he wrote: =E2=80=9CCommunism politicizes aesthetics.=E2=80=9D (As opposed to F= ascism=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Caestheticization of politics.=E2=80=9D)=C2=A0 In that context, the= idea of a poetry outside of politics would be an evidence of tacit approval for the =E2=80=9Ccondition of things as they are, as they exist.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 And= , so, a poetry at the service of the status quo of existence. If one applied the ancient Roman=E2= =80=99s question of =E2=80=9Cwho benefits,=E2=80=9D would it not yield the same ans= wer?=C2=A0 That such a position benefits the status quo, the Power of the Status Quo? Does your quotation from Benjamin actually mean, as you suggest, that =E2=80=9Cpoetry listens to no one?=C2=A0 What gives Benjamin the particular= , especial Power to make this assertion as a truth? How does he presume to know whethe= r or not the work of art in itself cares or not about its reception? Aren=E2= =80=99t you perhaps misreading the quotation as given here?=C2=A0 My reading of=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=E2=80=9Cbut in none of its [Art=E2=80=99s] works is it concerned with his [man=E2=80=99s] = response=E2=80=9D is that, not to be concerned with the response, does not mean a not listening, but simply a not caring for what is heard as a response or not. That is, th= e response will have no effect on the poem whatsoever, as far as the poem is =E2=80=9Cconcerned.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 Might this not mean also that the poem D= OES hear the response but simply thumbs its nose at it? Might not Benjamin write a quite opposite response when he is writing of Brecht for example, whose intended effects via the =E2=80=9CA effect=E2=80= =9D are designed quite consciously and openly to effect a response, and one that opens the spectator=E2=80=99s mind to the particular point of view re man=E2=80=99s c= ondition that Brecht is =E2=80=9Cbearing the message of?=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CArt... posits > man=E2=80=99s physical and spiritual existence, but in none of its works = is it > concerned with his response. No poem is intended for the reader, no picture > for the beholder, no symphony for the listener.=E2=80=9D Benjamin in some essays argues that there are Arts which are most certainly intended to produce certain desired effects, whether they are Communist or Fascist.=C2=A0 The question of =E2=80=9Canarchy,=E2=80=9D let alone Anarchi= sm, (not to mention =E2=80=9CDemocracy,=E2=80=9D) is left out in favor of demonstrating the urg= ency of the choice between the two opposing systems threatening to engulf hundreds of millions of lives. Agit-prop, the work of Brecht=E2=80=99s form of Theater,= the films of Eisenstein and Vertov=E2=80=99s, Picasso=E2=80=99s painting of =E2= =80=9CGuernica,=E2=80=9D the Nazi attacks on =E2=80=9Cdecadence=E2=80=9D in the arts, the Mussolini-Marinetti= formulations of a Fascist Futurism, the Spanish Falange=E2=80=99s ultra-reactionary concept= ions of a State Holy/Holy State Art=E2=80=94Benjamin was surrounded by works whose in= tentions were anything but =E2=80=9Cfugitive=E2=80=9D as William Burroughs calls the glossary-resisting languages of drug addicts. My point is that Benjamin himself does not consistently participate in the hard core forms of absolutism demonstrated by a title such as =E2=80=9CPoetry has nothing to d= o with politics.=E2=80=9D After all, if one truly thinks with =E2=80=9Can assertion of the independen= t, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry" then it does not exist in Foster=E2= =80=99s title, which is an absolutist and exclusionary one. An absolutist =E2=80=9C= chaotic power,=E2=80=9D is basically an oxymoron; if it is exclusionary of politics= it=C2=A0 is then just as exclusionary of such forms of =E2=80=9Canti-political=E2=80=9D= assertions as Murat=E2=80=99s interpretation of Foster title is. Chaos is=E2=80=94the INC= LUSION of =E2=80=9Cboth/and=E2=80=9D rather than an exclusionary =E2=80=9Ceither/or= =E2=80=9D: Chaos does not censor, pick and choose, take one side over another=E2=80=94Chaos is IMPROBABLITY. = =E2=80=9CUn Coup de des n=E2=80=99abolira jamais le hazard,=E2=80=9D yet speak with any gamb= ler and very often=C2=A0 =E2=80=9Cchance had nothing to do with it.=E2=80=9D --That is the paradoxical nature of Chaos: that a single event can be perceived, and is perceived, thus affecting its own actions, from such a multiplicity of points that it can appear simultaneously to be=C2=A0 =E2=80= =9Cpure hazard,=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9CFate,=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cmeant to be,=E2=80=9D = or =E2=80=9Cthe Will of the Individual/God=E2=80=9D asserting its=C2=A0 =E2=80=9Ctriumph in adversity=E2=80=9D over =E2=80=9Cou= t of control=E2=80=9D situations, etc etc. Poets employ imposed forms of =E2=80=9CChance Operations=E2=80=9D on v= arious materials, presenting the =E2=80=9Cchance results=E2=80=9D as demonstrations of =E2=80= =9Cimpersonal=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cfound=E2=80=9D poetry. However, by the very construction of a =E2=80=9CMethod of Operation= s=E2=80=9D in limiting the quantity of data/material being worked with, is there not a limit being set on the basically illimitable, and so-by ruling out a good deal of what is actually =E2=80=9Cchance operating?=E2=80=9D The I Ching, f= or example, deliberately limits the number of lines employed, so that a sense of order arises out of the seeming Chaos and so demonstrates The Way to be taken in = a particular situation. The key to =E2=80=9Can assertion of the independent, accidental, chaotic po= wer, of poetry=E2=80=9D might be for starters to eliminate the =E2=80=9Cassertion.= =E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CAssertion=E2=80=9D in such close provenance to the word =E2=80=9Cpower=E2=80=9D reminds one that = assertions are just that, assertions of a =E2=80=9Cpower=E2=80=9D that Knows, or is Presum= ed to Know.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 The =E2=80=9Cauthor=E2=80=9D as =E2=80=9Cauthority=E2=80=9D in other words, and= , by being a poet, being an authority on Poetry and what it has or not to do with, what its intentions and limits are.=C2=A0 Does poetry care that =E2=80=9Cno one=E2=80=9D listen= s to it?=C2=A0 Or is it only the poet who does? How does the poet even know if =E2=80=9Cpoetry=E2= =80=9D cares or not? Does a =E2=80=9Cpoem=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cpoetry=E2=80=9D always do wh= at the author/poet authorizes, what he or she intends it to do ? Is not the assertion of =E2=80=9Cthe independent, accidental, power of, poe= try=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 in itself a political action, in that it is a =E2=80=9Cdeclaration of independ= ence=E2=80=9D from something, and, in this case, specifically, from a Political Poetry? How can an assertion of the =E2=80=9Caccidental power of poetry=E2=80=9D be= made , as an assertion?=C2=A0 Is there not something in an assertion which rules out pre= cisely the accidental possibilities, intentions, of the assertion? When one writes of =E2=80=9Cpower=E2=80=9D in any context, may it not be associated precise= ly with the power of =E2=80=9Cauthority,=E2=80=9D of Political power,=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cthe P= ower of the Word,=E2=80=9D the power of =E2=80=9Cthe author=E2=80=9D and so remain well within the domain of am=C2= =A0 encounter with power in al its guises, political and not? It has become an increasingly =E2=80=9Cpowerfully=E2=80=9D argued position = of power which has especially since the eve of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq been asserting that poetry has nothing to do with the political, that its =E2=80= =9Cpower=E2=80=9D lies elsewhere, perhaps not even in the poet=E2=80=94or not even in the poe= m itself. From one viewpoint, one might =E2=80=9Csee this=E2=80=9D as the assertion o= f an elitist position =E2=80=9Cabove the mere fray=E2=80=9D of the political and the res= t of the =E2=80=9Cbad objects=E2=80=9D which need not be claimed among those belonging to Poetry.= If poetry, then, is actually the =E2=80=9Cindependent, accidental, power, of poetry=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94might it not be just as independent of this taking = of an apolitical stance as of a political?=C2=A0 If its truly accidental, might it not accid= ently run into politics on its way to the non political poem? Of poetry as power, might it not use its power=C2=A0 against anyone who makes such assertions a= s the claim to know what the power of poetry is? I think that when one makes such absolutist rhetorical statements about poetry, it is well to recall that they are indeed rhetorical statements. These are not statements of fact, but of belief, of a choice between what the writer delineates as an =E2=80=9Ceither/or=E2=80=9D rather than as a co= mpletely open ended situation, in which poetry may be seen, heard, listened, written by, for, with, to any one or no one, or by, to, with, for no one, any one, a on= e or=C2=A0 a few or some=C2=A0 or many and so on.=C2=A0 To assert that Poetry= has =E2=80=9Cnothing to do with politics=E2=80=9D is to be kept in mind as the assertion of=C2=A0 a= specific poet in a very specific time and place, and within the historical context of tha= t poet=E2=80=99s nation, then=E2=80=94now=E2=80=94being at War on multiple fr= onts in the Middle East, Colombia and North Eastern Africa, as well as being torn apart by various =E2=80=9Cwarring factions=E2=80=9D within the nation, including, as the ass= ertion makes evident, within the nation=E2=80=99s various poetries and poetics, poets an= d groups of poets. Since the eve of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq, as well as during al the time the Invasion and attempted occupation of Afghanistan and many othe= r countries, most recently Haiti, from some points of view=E2=80=94it has bec= ome popular to invoke the idea that poetry has nothing to do with the political= . Amiri Baraka has written that for some large segments of the poetry writing community, especially among academic and academic-related poets and poetries, this apolitical position may have to do with maintaining job security in the face of an inquisitive and forceful Homeland Security. Certainly as the times grow worse economically and culturally, such an assertion of a poet=E2=80=99s position might need to be more than ever emphasized=E2=80=94= after al a self-proclaimed non political poet is likely to be far less trouble than those speaking out about the conditions of the academy, or of students, or of themselves or any other cause related to the academy or State.=C2=A0 Gra= nted that Amiri Baraka as a political poet will take a political view of those professing to be non-political, there is always the =E2=80=9Cprobability,= =E2=80=9D since he is also a poet, of his viewpoint being as much of a =E2=80=9Cpoetic=E2=80= =9D one as any other poet=E2=80=99s. Whether one agrees or disagrees with his position=E2= =80=94does it not involve one with politics at least in order to deny one=E2=80=99s involveme= nt in it? I like very much Murat=E2=80=99s expression =E2=80=9Cthe independent, accidental, chaotic power, of poetry;=E2=80=9D I think for myself the diffi= culty with it arises with in the context it is expressed in: that of assertions, of quotations from =E2=80=9Cauthorities=E2=80=9D and so forth. That is, thi= s manner of contextualizing such =E2=80=9Cindependent, accidental, chaotic power, of po= etry=E2=80=9D basically denies the existence of al these elements by making of them an =E2=80=9Ceither/or=E2=80=9D statement of assertion, a taking of sides again= st inclusivity in poetry, the denial of its power to behave out of the poet=E2=80=99s control= , out of even its own control . . . By imposing criteria, as I indicated earlier, one is attempting to control the direction and elements of the discussion. By imposing criteria, one is limiting what a poet, what a poem what a poetry and poetics may be. This is because, I think, it has to do with the idea that a poet, a poem, a poetry, a poetics, is involved with a seeking for something, even if that something has nothing to do with readers, listeners, writers at all, it is still a search for poetry as something which exists in such a such condition, of which one can be at a certain point and level, sure. One has faith, then , that it exists, it must exist=E2=80=94 For many years I have been working with and thinking on the Found, which is something very often =E2=80=93I would say nearly always in many ways though= not =E2=80=9Call=E2=80=9D necessarily----independent, accidental and chaotic.= =C2=A0 Picasso stated: =E2=80=9CI do not seek, I find.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 (Note he is speaking only fo= r himself,=C2=A0 not the=C2=A0 overall run of artists, not making an assertion other than of his own and own work--) The more I have worked with l, lived with, though on this little phrase, the more profound I find it the more profound I see the gulf betwee= n the Search, the Seeker and the one who finds.=C2=A0 The latter is operating= in the area which Paul Celan writes of, in which =E2=80=9CPoetry no longer imp= oses itself, but exposes itself.=E2=80=9D One does not know what one may find, w= hether by accident, by being independent of preconceived images, ideas and dogmas, or open wide to the actions and elements of that chaotic power not only of poetry but of anything which one =E2=80=9Ccomes across,=E2=80=9D meets in o= ne=E2=80=99s random, destination-less,=C2=A0 =E2=80=9Cwanderings about.=E2=80=9D By the very accidental, independent, chaotic power of the Found, the poetry= , the poem exposing itself may be political, it might not be=E2=80=94who know= s? Is the one who finds even a poet?=C2=A0 By which I mean does the one who finds imp= ose already the limits of the so called =E2=80=9Cpoetic=E2=80=9D on what it fin= ds exposed as =E2=80=9Cpoetry?=E2=80=9D Is it not perhaps that poetry, a poem, might be s= peaking, writing, al of the time=E2=80=94and that it is not that no one listens to this or re= ads it, it=E2=80=99s that perhaps no one recognizes that is always already speaking= , writing, listening=E2=80=94 --and in the great vanity of =E2=80=9Cman=E2=80=99s/woman=E2=80=99s=C2=A0 r= esponse=E2=80=9D or not, in his/her hearing or not, in the immense vanity of her/his=E2=80=99s assertions=E2=80= =94or not=E2=80=94these very things ever ongoing al around one at every instant are being completel= y ignored=E2=80=94not so much =E2=80=9Cunheard, unseen, untouched=E2=80=9D as= simply=E2=80=94rendered deaf, dumb and blind not to mention =E2=80=9Cnon-existent=E2=80=9D but by the pow= er of assertions regarding things which are truly Outside a human=E2=80=99s control? Thus th= e assertion that not only does no one listen to poetry, but=C2=A0 that poetry= might also be listening to no one=E2=80=94a kind of cancelling out of negatives .= . . leaving one with the assertion of=E2=80=94what?=C2=A0 A conflict? A drama? = A void . . . abhorred by Nature-- For myself, the assertion that poetry has nothing to do with politics is a very political one, in that it is limiting what the action, the elements of a poem, of poetry, of poetics is, it is limiting the actions by poets and groups of poets as wel as depriving them of vast areas of elements of materials to use. For myself, this is a deeply political act, for in denyin= g the politics of its political act, the assertion is beginning to use that form of sophism one encounters non stop in the media, which has been used t= o drag a country into one War after another while its poets=E2=80=99 rhetoric= s are turned towards a critique of critiquing the conditions of poetry in the sam= e manner that the polices of the State critique and essay to make irrelevant and non-existent any critique of its policies, increasingly dependent on a language of erasure and denial, so that one wil not notice that the proud election of a Black President means not the =E2=80=9Cend to racism=E2=80=9D= in America any more than it lessens the support for the world=E2=80=99s one Apartheid Stat= e.=C2=A0 The only way to juggle such contradictions as this nation=E2=80=99s policies em= body daily, is to also make the assertion that, along with poetry, one has nothing to do with politics. To deny the contradictions is to say that things that are opposites are the same. War=3DPeace. Love =3DHate, etc=C2= =A0 What does Poetry =3D then? Non-Politics, Non Poetry---???=C2=A0 Poetry=3DPoetry!= !!!=C2=A0 Yet who decides what Poetry is? The greatest victory for the State is when no one and nothing has anything to do with politics. =E2=80=9CLet them write poetry!!!=E2=80=9D=E2=80=94as = =E2=80=9Cno one listens to it=E2=80=9D and, perhaps, poetry does not listen to the poets either! One might even find this situation developing: *In a jerky and ferocious style, [Defoe's] essay argued that literature should be written by non-literary people, just as politics should be and indeed was being taken over by non-politicians, as (Defoe) was delighted to observe. The corresponding revolution in writing, Defoe went on to say, would, in a sense, abolish literature itself. When poetry is written by non-poets and read by non-readers.* *Roberto Bolano, Distant Star*** *As cited in *2010-03-09: Outsider Poems, A Mini-Anthology in Progress (14)= : David Baptiste Chirot, Non-Poetry for Non-Readers (Poems from Guant=C3=A1namo) At Jerome Rothenberg=E2=80=99s http://poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/2010/03/outsider-poems-mini-anthology-i= n.html Also appeared at: =C2=B7=C2=A0 *KAURAB* Online :: A Bengali Poetry Webzine :: Translation Site The circumstances of the *poets*, the Pentagon supervision of censorships, = * ...* With the *Guantanamo* Poems, as Flagg Miller suggests in his excellent preface, *....* *David* Baptiste *Chirot* is an amazing litterateur, artist= , reader and critic. *...* www.*kaurab*.com/english/books/*guantanamo*.html - Cached =C2=B7=C2=A0 *DAVID*-BAPTISTE *CHIROT*: New Books @ *Kaurab* Feb 5, 2010 *...* (also has Visual Poetry by *chirot*). *Kaurab* Translatio= n Site Poems from *Guant=C3=A1namo* The Detainees Speak *David* Baptite *Chir= ot* * ...* *david*baptiste*chirot*.blogspot.com/2010/02/new-books-*kaurab*.h *Thing Language* This ocean, humiliating in its disguises Tougher than anything. No one listens to poetry. The ocean Does not mean to be listened to. A drop Or crash of water. It means Nothing. It Is bread and butter Pepper and salt. The death That young men hope for. Aimlessly It pounds the shore. White and aimless signals. No One listens to poetry. > Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:05:46 -0400 > From: muratnn@GMAIL.COM > Subject: Re: 25 questions, #4... > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > > Hi Alan, David, > > Here is a quote from my review of Ed Foster's book of poems *What He Ough= t > To Know*: > > "For Ed Foster. Spicer=E2=80=99s comment, =E2=80=9Cno one listens to poet= ry,=E2=80=9D is at the > heart of a poetic revolution. He transforms this existential condition into > Walter Benjamin=E2=80=99s suggestion that poetry listens to no one: =E2= =80=9CArt... posits > man=E2=80=99s physical and spiritual existence, but in none of its works = is it > concerned with his response. No poem is intended for the reader, no picture > for the beholder, no symphony for the listener.=E2=80=9D This quotation a= ppears in > Foster=E2=80=99s poem, =E2=80=9CPoetry Has Nothing To Do With Politics.= =E2=80=9D More than a denial > of politics, the idea in the title is an assertion of the independent, > accidental, chaotic power, of poetry." > > Ciao, > > Murat > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, David Chirot wrote: > > > Like Alan, i don't understand the "should"--other than in such "extenuating > > circumstances" as in cases of the coerced, of desperation, of fear or > > perhaps the obscurely shifted desire to "do the right thing" in some > > inwardly confused sense of "moral duty" or "moral suasion." > > > > Or--in the cases of propaganda and advertising. > > > > A Russian artist writes that language is a fascism not because it silences > > or censors, but because it forces one to speak. > > > > Such would be the case of the "should" perhaps-- > > > > A writer writes for those who read, who in turn may read for those who do > > not read. > > > > A writer writes--for whom? Oneself and other strangers? > > > > I've made poems written for stones, tree, the air, a ray of light--without > > even the idea of a person involved-- > > > > In this sense one may write for those "illiterates" or "inanimates" who do > > not read yet understand and know the Unwritten-- > > > > > > > > "The hills know but do not tell" as Emily Dickinson writes-- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:36:43 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jake Marmer Subject: Passover Jazz Poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey all, Passover Jazz Poetry vids @ the Forward this week - http://www.forward.com/articles/126922/ Enjoy! -JM ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:43:13 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: My Final Word on the Gurlesque ... Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For now at least. Poetics of the 'grrrl,' ahhh! http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/the-gurlesque/ Amy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:11:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: William Slaughter Subject: Notice: Mudlark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed New and On View: Mudlark Flash No. 55 (2010) Broken Records and Other Formal Extremities Several Poems by Laurel Bastian Laurel Bastian has work in or forthcoming from Margie, Puerto del Sol, Tar River Poetry, Cream City Review, and Nimrod among others. She was a finalist for the Ruth Lilly Fellowship, sponsored by the Poetry Foundation, is on the faculty at Madison College, and runs a creative writing program in a men's correctional facility near Madison, Wisconsin. Spread the word. Far and wide, William Slaughter MUDLARK An Electronic Journal of Poetry & Poetics Never in and never out of print... E-mail: mudlark@unf.edu URL: http://www.unf.edu/mudlark ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:59:22 +1300 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Lisa Samuels Subject: Home & Away Poetry Symposium 2010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Those in and near Auckland right now are welcome to the first part of the Home & Away Symposium http://www.nzepc.auckland.ac.nz/features/home&away/index.asp already underway yesterday with talks by Ann Vickery and Jill Jones and others, more talks today from Ian Wedde, Cath Kenneally, Mark Young and more, and a reading starting at 5:30 today, 31 March, with all these writers plus others in the Old Government House Lounge at The University of Auckland. The second part of Home & Away will feature New Zealand poets going to Australia in September. It's an exchange program and a fostering of conversations. Check out the web site for more information, including the construction of the Digital Bridge. Thanks to Michele Leggott, Brian Flaherty, Pam Brown, Martin Edmond, Helen Sword, and all others who have made this Symposium a happening. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:58:46 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve russell Subject: Fw: The Lannan Literary Symposium and Festival @ Georgtown, April 6 & 7, featuring Dave Eggers, a Tribute to Lucile Clifton, and much more MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: DCPoetry Events =0ATo: poet_in_hell@yahoo.com=0ASent: Mon, March 29, 2010 8:19:1= 0 PM=0ASubject: The Lannan Literary Symposium and Festival @ Georgtown, Apr= il 6 & 7, featuring Dave Eggers, a Tribute to Lucile Clifton, and much more= =0A=0AThe Lannan Literary Symposium and Festival =0A=0ALiteracy =C2=B7 Lite= rature =C2=B7 Democracy =0A=0AGeorgetown University=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 6 a= nd 7 April 2010=0A=0AChris Abani =C2=B7 Uwem Akpan=0AAdam Hochschild=0A=0AG= eorgetown=E2=80=99s 2010 Lannan Literary Symposium and Festival will explor= e the most vital and purposeful connections across the themes in its title,= =0ALiteracy, Literature and Democracy; the Symposium welcomes a rich select= ion of writers, journalists and activists to the Georgetown campus over the= two days following Easter break, Tuesday 6 and Wednesday 7 April, to discu= ss and to demonstrate how universal access to literacy, critical attention = to the urgency of the creative imagination and to the power of the written = word, and care for the fragility of authentic democracy must all equally co= ncern citizens working for justice in our contemporary world. Guests to Geo= rgetown include noted writers Dave Eggers, Chris Abani, and Uwem Akpan, SJ,= journalist, writer and Mother Jones founder Adam Hochschild, social justic= e activist Mekonnodji Nadingam,=C2=A0 poet Thomas Sayers Ellis, and recent = Georgetown alums Happy Johnson (COL =E2=80=9907) and Allison Correll (Engli= sh MA =E2=80=9909). Topics across two days of readings, roundtables and per= formances will include local and national literacy projects like Mr. Eggers= =E2=80=99 826 Valencia and 826 DC, literary, cultural and practical responses to histori= c challenges like the rebuilding of New Orleans after Katrina, and the ongo= ing global refugee crisis, with special focus on vulnerable populations in = central Africa; the Symposium concludes with a special tribute to the poet = Lucille Clifton by former Maryland poet laureate Michael S. Glaser and read= ings in her honor by Mr. Ellis and Mr. Abani. Participants from the Georget= own Community will include Professors Deborah Tannen, Maureen Corrigan, and= Michael Eric Dyson, as well as Professor Carolyn Forch=C3=A9, the Director= of Georgetown=E2=80=99s Lannan Center for Poetics and Social Practice. For= more information please contact Professor Ricardo Ort=C3=ADz at ortizr@geo= rgetown.edu.=0A=0ASchedule: =0A=0ATu 6 April/7:30PM/Gaston Hall =0A=0AA Pub= lic Reading and Talk Featuring=0A=0ADave Eggers=0AIn Conversation with =0A= =0AMaureen Corrigan and Deborah Tannen=0AReception to Follow, Copley Formal= Lounge=0A=0A=C2=B7=0A=0AWednesday 7 April 2010=0A9:30 to 11am=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Riggs Library=0A=0A=E2=80=9CWriting Beyond Catastrophe:=0ALi= teratures and Cultures of National Revival in Post-Katrina America=E2=80=9D= =0A=0AA Discussion featuring=0AMichael Eric Dyson, Dave Eggers, Happy Johns= on (=E2=80=9907)=0A=0ARefreshments Served and Books Available in the Presid= ents=E2=80=99 Room=0A=0A=C2=B7=0A=0ACopley Formal Lounge=0A=0A=E2=80=9CWrit= ing (and Working) Beyond Genocide=0ALiterary, Cultural and Social Activisms= in a Changing Africa=E2=80=9D =0A=0ASession 1=C2=A0 =C2=B7 1 to 3pm=0A=0Ar= eadings by=0A=0AUwem Akpan, SJ=0Aand=0AAdam Hochschild=0A=0A=0ASession 2=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=B7=C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 to 5PM=0A=0AA Roundtable Featuring=0A=0AMe= konndji Nadingam=0AAllison Correll (MA =E2=80=9909)=0AChris Abani =C2=B7 Uw= em Akpan=0AAdam Hochschild=0A=0ABooks Available and Light Refreshments Serv= ed=0A=0ACopley Formal Lounge=0A=0A=C2=B7=0A=0AThe Fisher Family Colloquium = Room=0AThe Rafik Hariri Building=0AMcDonough School of Business=0A=0A7:30 p= m=0A=0AA Tribute to=0ALucille Clifton=0A=0AFeaturing=0AMichael S. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:26:38 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Glass Subject: email address fr Rod Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if someone has Rod's contact info, please backchannel. thx,,, Dan ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:12:19 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: charles alexander Subject: Fwd: rental in Lo Que Pasa Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm forwarding this message from an artist/friend in Tucson. It would be great if some poet or couple or family would decide to spend 2 to 3 months in Tucson, maybe even working with me at Chax Press in some way. July through September in Tucson can be hot, but the house has A/C, and Tucson is fairly quiet in the summer, if you're working to finish that book of poems or novel or critical book or whatever. Also a good poetry community, good university library, you're an hour away from Mexico, 5 hours away from the Grand Canyon, 2 hours away from the lovely old mining town now artist hang-out of Bisbee. If you're interested, let me know and I'll quickly forward your interest to Bailey Doogan, owner of the house. But make sure you back-channel me directly at chax@theriver.com, as I'm not currently seeing all of the poetics list messages. My guess is you should act quickly, as this won't be around for long. I have photos, but can't send them to the poetics e-list. Charles Begin forwarded message: > From: Bailey Doogan > Date: March 30, 2010 9:37:52 AM PDT > > Subject: Fwd: rental in Lo Que Pasa > > Hello Friends, > > I will be spending the months of July, August, and September in Nova > Scotia. I am looking for someone to sublet my house for those three > months. The house is a fully-furnished one bedroom in the historic > West University neighborhood, 5 minute walk to the Art School, 4th > Avenue, and Downtown. Central heating and A/C, a washer/dryer. > Walled back yard and patio. This could be ideal as a interim place > for a responsible incoming graduate student or new faculty. I am > asking $800 a month which includes all utilities, The price could be > negotiable -- the main thing is to have a responsible person taking > care of the house. >> >> Let me know if you have any questions. >> >> All best, Peggy Doogan charles alexander chax@theriver.com chax press / poetry & the book arts 411 n seventh ave ste 103 / tucson, az 85705-8388 DONATE TO CHAX PRESS at http://chax.org/donate.htm ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:15:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: peter ganick Subject: 30 chalk editions titles. 10 are new. [apologies for cross-posting]. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *below is a list of the 30 titles chalk-editions has published* *to date. * *the top ten are brand-new, this is the first time they have been advertised. * *the texts are free to read, free to download, and free to* *print-out. we just ask you leave the copyright page intact with each version.* *some of the newest and most adventurous writing in text format will be found here. * *please take some time with these texts. you will not be disappointed. to read a text, click on a title.* *to submit a text for consideration of publication, send an electronic file to Peter Ganick pganickz@gmail.com and Jukka-Pekka Kervinen jkervinen@gmx.com* *Jim Leftwich - SO FOR BY* ** *Billy Bob Beamer - WORD DUST POMES* ** *Peter Ganick - rehearse this* ** *Ivan Arguelles - WHAT ARE PROBABLY MY MEMOIRS* ** *Alan Sondheim - http:::::* ** *Raymond Farr - Two Texts* ** *Halvard Johnson - THE PERFECTION OF MOZART'S THIRD EYE & Other Sonnets* *Joel Chace - SCRIPTS TOO SCAFFOLD* ** *John Crouse - ENTRANCES* ** *Jim Leftwich - AT AS ON* ** *John M. Bennett - T ICK TICK TIC K* ** *Lars Palm - fragments from this* ** *Thomas Lowe Taylor - "...of shooting stars and brightness."* ** *Andrew Topel - RE-ECHOES* ** *Jim Leftwich - OF IF IN* ** *Peter Ganick - g=e=i=s=t=l=i=c=h* *Hugh R. Tribbey - waitinale glasses* ** *Lawrence Upton - water lines* *Jeff Crouch - furious peddler* ** *Sheila E. Murphy - Reverse Haibun* ** *John M. Bennett - Fla g Wh ale* ** *zachary count lawrence - parsing* ** *Sheila E. Murphy - circumsanct* ** *Ivan Arguelles - SECRET POEM* ** *Ivan Arguelles - SATURDAY AFTERNOON IN THE UPANISHADS* ** *Alan Sondheim - Pushing to Convulsion* ** *Jim Leftwich - BEGET STATESMAN* *Jim Leftwich - TIME JUNK* ** *Peter Ganick - recent / how recent* ** *Jukka-Pekka Kervinen - Bad Knob* ** ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:12:11 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Kirschenbaum Subject: Last Call to Advertise in, Donate to Boog City 63 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Please forward ----------------------- Boog City=92s 63rd issue Wants to spread the word about your latest offerings and events and say a great big hello to each and everyone of you So Help Us Help You (and Help Us, too) By Placing a Lovely Advertisement (We're also cool with donations, real cool.) 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From: Cara Benson Subject: Moles Not Molar Predictions Event Friday - Philly MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PREDICTIONS: A Book Release Event on= Moles Not Molar =0Apresents =0A=0APREDICTIONS: A Book Release Event=0A=0Aon= Friday, April 2nd =0Aat 7:30PM=0A@ Wooden Shoe Books=0A704 South Street (a= t South and 7th St)=0A=0A=A0=0AANIMATION, ANIMALS, ANIMA/US! =0AAnimations!= Readings! And Choral Performances!=0A=0AFor this special release event for= the fourth volume in the Chain Links book series, a number of the contribu= tors to Predictions - who range from climate scientists to animators to poe= ts - will be presenting portions of their contributions to the collection.= =A0=0A=0AFeaturing: =0ACARA BENSON, JASON & DAVID ZUZGA, JULIE SADLER & THE= MOLES NOT MOLAR SAYERS!=0A=0ACARA BENSON is author of (made) with BookThug= and Protean Parade (forthcoming, Black Radish Books 2010). She edited the = interdisciplinary book Predictions for Chain Links. Other work is included = in: Belladonna Elders Series #7 with Anne Waldman and Jayne Cortez, and NO = GENDER: REFLECTIONS ON THE LIFE & WORK OF kari edwards (Litmus Press/Bellad= onna Books). Benson edits the online Sous Rature and teaches poetry in a NY= State Prison. =0A=0AJULIE SADLER is an artist who has lived in rural upsta= te New York her entire adult life. She has been exploring the technique of = collage for over a decade by using the internet as a launching pad. Not all= owing her location to be a barrier to communication, Sadler has collaborate= d in several round robin projects, been published in books as well as publi= shed her own, and participated in the 1000 Journals documentary film. www.m= agikglasses.com =0A=0ADAVID ZUZGA, PhD, is a visiting Assistant Professor o= f Biology at St. Josephs University. He has authored publications in Scienc= e, Nature Genetics and Nature Medicine. His research currently focuses on s= topping the spread of colon cancer by altering metastatic cytoskeletal arch= itecture through the activation of an intestinal receptor for diarrheagenic= bacteria. He lives in a very old house in Collingswood, NJ with his wife, = two sons and a sometimes chaotic menagerie of pets.=0A=0AJASON ZUZGA is a P= hD student in English at the University of Pennsylvania. His poetry and non= fiction have appeared in journals such as The Yale Review, jubilat, Spork, = VOLT, LIT, Cue, and The Seneca Review. He received an MFA in poetry and non= fiction from the University of Arizona, was a recipient of a Provincetown F= ine Arts Work Center residency for 2001-2002 and was the 2005-2006 James Me= rrill Writer-in-Residence. He is the nonfiction editor of FENCE.=0A----=0A= =0AAbout PREDICTIONS:=0A=0AAs is painfully obvious for many a religious lea= der and many a psychic, predicting the future is an indeterminate business.= The work collected in PREDICTIONS takes that indeterminancy as a starting = point and celebrates it. A futurist points to how the question of the futur= e, once a matter for dreamers and philosophers, has moved to the center of = development and scientific agendas. Several artists, well aware that accele= rating changes to the environment require that we learn quickly, suggest ho= w art might help us to understand and to rethink the interface between old = technologies and new technologies in this time of environmental crisis. A w= riter and a scientist team up to tell an alternate story of evolution. And = a poet writes, "Predictions acquire full meaning when they apply to the, un= til then, unimaginable." Edited by Cara Benson, with contributors Paul Rask= in, Bart Bridger Woodstrup, Julie Sadler, David Zuga, Jason Zuga, and Monic= a de la Torre.=0A=0A=0ALink to the series:=0Ahttp://www.molesnotmolar.com/= =0A=0ATo the venue:=0Ahttp://www.woodenshoebooks.com/home.html=0A=0AReview = of the book at Brooklyn Rail by Anna Elena Eyre:=0Ahttp://www.brooklynrail.= org/2010/02/books/interdisciplinary-predictions-pretext=A0=0A=A0=0ABook its= elf available at SPD, of course!=0Ahttp://www.spdbooks.org/Producte/9781930= 068452/predictions-chainlinks.aspx=A0=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=0A=A0= =0A=A0=0A________________________=A0=0Ahttp://www.necessetics.com=A0{homepa= ge}=A0=0Ahttp://www.necessetics.com/sousrature.html=A0{journal}=0A=0A=0A = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:47:18 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sam Ladkin Subject: Fool's ERRAND Festival - 1st April 2010, UCC, Ireland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, I am delighted at how generous people have been with their time in making a scratch performance of Burdocks possible ( the musicians are listed at the bottom), and delighted to have these fine people in the same place at the same time for a day of it. All are welcome. Yours truly, Sam Ladkin *Fool=92s ERRAND=85* Connolly A, Western Road, UCC April 1st 2010 http://www.ucc.ie/en/VisitorstoUCC/Transportmapsandparking/Maps/East%20Camp= us.pdf * * 16:00 =96 17:00 *Michael Kindellan & Fergal Gaynor* * *Poems 17:30 =96 18:30 *Chris Goode & Jonny Liron* Mixed Ape: *FOLLY SEEING ALL THIS* * * 20:00 =96 21:00 *Fluxus* with *Vicky Langan** & Paul Hegarty * * * *plus a cast of tens for* *Christian Wolff's BURDOCKS* *FREE ENTRY* All are welcome http://errantfools.blogspot.com/ Courtesy *UCC English Literature Society*. * * *=85Errant FOOLS* Any queries contact: Ladkin@gmail.com All star cast for Burdocks includes: John Godfrey Paul Hegarty Danny McCarthy Francis Heery Athoulis Tsiopani Sadhbh O'Flynn Eimear O'Donovan Eimear O'Donovan Ruti Lachs Eoin O'Connor David O'Regan Marja Gaynor Mick O'Shea Vicky Langan Andrea Ofnodiscernablesurname Jennifer Schwartz Kevin Terry Sponsored by the *UCC English Literature Society*. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D158991857645 Various links: http://www.ucc.ie/en/english/ http://www.ucc.ie/french/ http://www.music.ucc.ie/ http://www.artsadmin.co.uk/projects/associate-artist.php?id=3D32 http://beescope.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/desamisducrime http://www.barquepress.com/notlove.html http://www.soundeye.org/people/fergal-gaynor http://renewablemusic.blogspot.com/2006/09/landmarks-18.html http://www.dannymccarthy.ie/ http://www.dotdotdotmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/mickoshea http://www.music.ucc.ie/index.php?/staff/detail/john_godfrey/ http://www.soundeye.org/ ** =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:51:47 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: twshaner@COMCAST.NET Subject: Correction: Kit Robinson reads in Eugene this Saturday, April 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A New Poetry @ DIVA presents Kit Robinson Jen Tynes Ce Rosenow Saturday, April 3, 7:30 DIVA (Downtown Initiative for the Visual Arts) 110 W. Broadway Eugene, Oregon 541.344.3482 www.divacenter.org ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:06:21 -1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: recent Tinfish Editor blog posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * On Teaching the Difficulties * The Decline and Fall of a State University, or, An... * Epic Simile (Fail): Political Rhetoric and the Hea... * Writing Off of DICTEE: A Lesson Plan * Words Off the Wall [Pre-Write Tour of Honolulu's C... http://tinfisheditor.blogspot.com Enjoy! Susan M. Schultz Blog purveyor ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:21:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: cris cheek Subject: post_moot 2010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 cG9zdF9tb290CgoKcG9ldHJ5ICsgcGVyZm9ybWFuY2U6IGEgY29udm9jYXRpb24KCmZlYXR1cmlu ZzsgcGFwZXJzLCBsaXZlIHdyaXRpbmcsIHBvZXRzIHRoZWF0ZXIsIHNvdW5kIGFydCwgdGFsay1i YXNlZApwb2V0aWNzLCB2b2ljZSBhcnQsIHBoeXNpY2FsIHRoZWF0ZXIgYW5kIGRpZ2l0YWwgdGV4 dCwgY29sbGFib3JhdGlvbiwKcG9seWxpbmd1YWxpc20sIGx5cmljIG1lZGl0YXRpb25zLCB0cmFu c2xhdGlvbiwgcG9ldHJ5IHJlYWRpbmdzLCB3cml0aW5nCmludGVydmVudGlvbnMsIHNvdW5kIHBv ZXRyeSwgdmlzdWFsIHBvZXRyeSwgZWNvLXBvZXRpY3MsIHRleHQtYmFzZWQKaW5zdGFsbGF0aW9u LCBib29rYXRlcmlhLCBsYXRlIG5pZ2h0IHJlYWRpbmdzLCBtdWx0aW1lZGlhIGFuZCBhIGxvdCBt b3JlCmJlc2lkZXMgdGhhdC4KCgoKd29yayBieTogIE1hcmlhIEF1eGlsaWFkb3JhIEFsdmFyZXog ICDigKIgICBTdGFuIEFwcHPigIPigKLigINPYW5hCkF2YXNpbGljaGlvYWVp4oCD4oCi4oCDTWlr ZSBCYXNpbnNraeKAg+KAouKAg0hvbGx5IEJhc3PigIPigKIKIEpvaG4gTS4gQmVubmV0dCAgIOKA ouKAg0JsYWNrIFRvb2sgQ29sbGVjdGl2ZeKAg+KAouKAg1NlYW4gQm9ubmV54oCD4oCi4oCDVGFt bXkKQnJvd27igIPigKLigINNYWlyw6lhZCBCeXJuZeKAg+KAogoKU2jDoSBDYWdl4oCD4oCi4oCD Y3JpcyBjaGVla+KAg+KAouKAg0RhbmllbCBDaXRyb+KAg+KAouKAg0EuTS5KLiBDcmF3Zm9yZOKA g+KAouKAg0pvcmRhbiBEYWx0b24K4oCD4oCi4oCDTWFyaWEgRGFtb24g4oCD4oCi4oCDSWFuIERh dmlkc29u4oCD4oCi4oCDIFJ5YW4gRG93bmV54oCD4oCi4oCDQWxhbiBHb2xkaW5n4oCD4oCiCksu IExvcnJhaW5lIEdyYWhhbeKAg+KAouKAg0R1cmllbCBIYXJyaXPigIPigKLigINDYXJsYSBIYXJy eW1hbuKAg+KAouKAg0plZmYgSGlsc29u4oCD4oCi4oCDSmVuCkhvZmVyCuKAg+KAouKAg0pvc2Vm IEhvcmFjZWsg4oCD4oCi4oCDV2lsbGlhbSBSLiBIb3dl4oCD4oCi4oCDSmFkZSBIdWRzb27igIPi gKLigINDaHJpc3RpbmUgSHVtZeKAg+KAouKAg1BldGVyCkphZWdlcuKAg+KAogpNYXJrIEplZmZl cnnigIPigKLigINCb25uaWUgSm9uZXPigIPigKLigINQaWVycmUgSm9yaXPigIPigKLigINLQkQg U291bmQgQ29sbGVjdGl2ZSAgIOKAogogIEFkZWVuYSBLYXJhc2ljayDigIPigKIKQnJpYW4gS2lu Y2FpZOKAg+KAouKAg0EuIEouIFBhdHJpY2sgTGlzemtpZXdpY3rigIPigKLigINKb3NlIEx1bmHi gIPigKLigIMgRGF3bgpMdW5keS1NYXJ0aW7igIPigKLigIMgTWVsIE5pY2hvbHPigIPigKIKSG9h IE5ndXllbuKAg+KAouKAg0NocmlzIE1hbm7igIPigKLigINNb25pY2EgTW9keeKAg+KAouKAg0su IFNpbGVtIE1vaGFtbWFkIOKAg+KAouKAg0xhdXJhIE1vcmlhcnR5CuKAg+KAouKAg0p1ZGQgTW9y cmlzc2V54oCD4oCi4oCDRXJpbiBNb3VyZeKAg+KAouKAg0phc29uIE5lbHNvbuKAg+KAouKAgyBN ZWwgTmljaG9sc+KAg+KAouKAg1RvbQpPcmFuZ2XigIPigKIKSmVzc2ljYSBQb250b+KAg+KAouKA g0x1a2UgUm9iZXJ0c+KAg+KAouKAg0phaW1lIFJvYmxlcyDigIPigKLigINSaWMgUm95ZXLigIPi gKLigINMaW5kYSBSdXNzbwrigIPigKLigINMaXNhIFNhbXVlbHPigIPigKLigINTdGFuZGFyZCBT Y2hhZWZlcuKAg+KAouKAg0pvbmF0aGFuIFNraW5uZXLigIPigKLigIMgRGFubnkgU25lbHNvbuKA g+KAogpUb2RkIFNlYWJyb29r4oCD4oCi4oCDIEplc3NpY2EgU21pdGjigIPigKLigINSb2QgU21p dGjigIPigKLigINLYXRlIFNvcGtvIOKAg+KAouKAg1JvZHJpZ28gVG9zY2FubwrigIPigKLigIMg TGF3cmVuY2UgVXB0b27igIPigKLigINDaHJpcyBWaXRpZWxsb+KAg+KAouKAg0NhdGhlcmluZSBX YWduZXLigIPigKLigINNYXJrIFdhbGxhY2Ug4oCD4oCiCkRhbmEgV2FyZOKAg+KAouKAg0JhcnJl dHQgV2F0dGVu4oCD4oCi4oCDQnJpYW4gV2hpdGVuZXLigIPigKLigINTdGV2ZSBXaWxsZXnigIPi gKLigINUeXJvbmUKV2lsbGlhbXMg4oCi4oCDUm9uYWxkbyBXaWxzb24KCgoKCkFwcmlsIDIyLTI1 LCAyMDEwCk1pYW1pIFVuaXZlcnNpdHkKT3hmb3JkLCBPaGlvCgoKaW50ZXJlc3RlZCBpbiBhdHRl bmRpbmcgcG9zdF9tb290PwoKZm9yIGZ1cnRoZXIgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gb24gcmVnaXN0cmF0aW9u IGFuZCBhY2NvbW1vZGF0aW9uIHBvaW50IHlvdXIgYnJvd3Nlcgp0bzoKaHR0cDovL3d3dy51bml0 cy5tdW9oaW8uZWR1L2NyZWF0aXZld3JpdGluZy9wb3N0bW9vdC8KCgoKdGhlIHBvc3QgXyBtb290 IGNvbGxlY3RpdmUgKE1hcmlhIEF1eGlsaWFkb3JhIEFsdmFyZXosIFRhbW15IEJyb3duLCBjcmlz CmNoZWVrLCBXaWxsaWFtIFIuIEhvd2UsIENhdGh5IFdhZ25lcikK ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:11:25 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Shankar, Ravi (English)" Subject: Call For Submissions: Poems wanted for a Sammy Cahn anthology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Call For Submissions Call for Submissions for a proposed anthology of new short works = commemorating the centenary of the lyricist=92s birth. SAMMY CAHN (1913-1993), the Academy- and Emmy-Award-winning lyricist of = many of the standards commonly referred to as the =93Great American = Songbook,=94 as well as the writer who =93put more words into Frank = Sinatra=92s mouth than any other,=94 was very vocal in his disagreement = with the policy that writers are not able to copyright the titles of = their compositions. In honor of the upcoming centenary of his birth in 2013, and with a = loving wink at his titular annoynace, Dr. Gilbert L. Gigliotti of = Central Connecticut State University is soliciting new poems, flash = fiction, flash non-fiction, and micro-plays, each with the same title as = one of his song lyrics. The new pieces need not refer to the = songwriter=92s lyrics nor be similar in theme or style to the originals; = the editor only seeks a variety of literary approaches toward =96 and = treatments of =96 Cahn=92s titles. Among some of his most widely = recognizable songs include Call Me Irresponsible, Come Fly With Me, Let = It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!, and Until the Real Thing Comes Along = =97 just to name a very few. Please send your submission by 1 July 2010 to gigliotti@ccsu.edu or: Dr. Gilbert L. Gigliotti Department of English Central Connecticut State University 1615 Stanley Street New Britain, CT 06050 Gilbert L. Gigliotti is a Professor of English at Central Connecticut = State University and the editor of a pair of anthologies published by = Entasis Press of Washington, DC, Sinatra: But Buddy I=92m a Kind of Poem = (2008) and Ava Gardner: Touches of Venus (2010). ***************=20 Ravi Shankar=20 Ed., http://www.drunkenboat.com=20 Poet-in-Residence=20 Associate Professor=20 CCSU - English Dept.=20 860-832-2766=20 shankarr@ccsu.edu=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 02:45:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tim Peterson Subject: EOAGH Reading Series 4/4: Lamoureux, Vermeulen, and Wong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 EOAGH Reading Series: Mark Lamoureux, Cheryl Clark Vermeulen, and Angela Veronica Wong Sunday, April 4 at 2PM at Unnameable Books 600 Vanderbilt Avenue, Brooklyn, NY FREE MARK LAMOUREUX's work has appeared in numerous venues both online and in print. His first full-length collection, Astrometry Orgonon, was realeased by BlazeVOX books in 2008. Another collection is due out from the Black Radish Books Collective in 2010. Read Mark Lamoureux's poem "Merce Cunningham: Nearly Ninety" in EOAGH Issue 5: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefive/lamoureux.html CHERYL CLARK VERMEULEN is the author of the poetry chapbook Dead-Eye Spring (Cy Gist Press) and peddler of a manuscript called Walking Opposite the Parade. Vermeulen teaches writing at Massachusetts College of Art and Design and at the New England Conservatory of Music. Her poems can be found in Third Coast, EOAGH, Inertia Magazine, Dispatx, and DIAGRAM, and her translations in the anthology Connecting Lines: New Poetry from Mexico. Read "The Gate," "Placement," and "Bricked-in Window" by Cheryl Clark Vermeulen in EOAGH 5: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefive/vermeulen.html ANGELA VERONICA WONG Angela Veronica Wong is the author of two chapbooks, All the Little Red Girls on Flying Guillotine Press and to know this on Cy Gist Press. She lives in Manhattan and is working on a young adult book. Read a selection from "Inbetweenness" by Angela Veronica Wong in EOAGH 4: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefour/wong.html UPCOMING EOAGH READING SERIES EVENTS: David Shapiro and Joanna Fuhrman Sunday, April 18 @2PM Sueyuen Juliette Lee, Paolo Javier, and Filip Marinovich Sunday, May 9 @2PM Charles Borkhuis and Andrew Levy Sunday, May 23 @2PM E. Tracy Grinnell, Brenda Iijima, and Shelly Taylor Sunday, June 27 @2PM ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:12:17 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: "Saudi woman blasts clerics in TV contest poem" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** ------------------------------ * * ------------------------------ * * *Dear Friends and fellow poets* *I was struck by the responses to the welcome news of "Saudi Woman Poet Blasts Clerics on TV," and some of the surprise re the immense role poetry plays in the Muslim world.* *I have written 2 essay/reviews on line (see below) re the non-reception as it were by American non-readers/readers of the "non-literarily translated" Guantanamo "non" Poets" which examine "non-welcoming" responses of American poets and poetics to the Guantanamo "non-poetry." Read in such a context, the responses to the Saudi Woman Poet on American-style "American Idol" TV reveal further ironies in the American receptions of poetry in the Muslim world.* *Below the essay/reviews are found very important articles, with videos and in one case at least, poetry, and links, which concern the treatments and reception of women and their actions--or the limited lack thereof, as in th= e Sciences--in areas of the world in which the Americans are directly involved, especially in the case of Dr **Aafia Siddiqui, who with her three children was kidnapped and for many years "disappeared." It is now reveale= d that Dr Siddiqui was held for years and brutally tortured, sexually assaulted and humiliated before her rendition to the US by US Agents in the prison of Baghram Airbase, where President Obama just made a surprise appearance a few days ago to yet again extoll "the Right War" being carried out by drones, troops and corruption in Afghanistan and along and inside th= e Pakistani border. As an American General put is earlier this week, the US has killed an incredible number of Afghanis--almost all of them civilians.* *I also admire the courage of the Saudi poet, not only because of "blasting the clerics," but also in a very real sense indirectly blasting on American-style "American Idol" TV the regime which is one hundred percent backed and paid for by American tax payer and Big Oil dollars, just as the US funds the Israeli State which will not allow Palestinian recipients of American sholarships to study in the US. * The issues of poets and poetics when mixed with "good" and "bad" poets in situations which are at heart bought and paid for with US tax payer (including tax paying poets') dollars are far more complex and contradictor= y than "yay/good" or "nay/bad" responses allow for . . . Just recently here Murat and I were discussing the Ed Foster poem title "Poetry Has Nothing to Do with Politics;" I think perhaps such examples as given here give pause to investigate further how much it may be that the receptions of poetry may be affected by "politics." -david http://davidbaptisetchirot.blogspot.com, http://chirotzerozine.blogspot.com http://nosobrasotros.blogspot.com * * * * ------------------------------ * * 1. Poems and Poetics - 4 visits - Mar 28 Outsider Poems, A Mini-Anthology in Progress (14): *David Baptiste Chiro= t *, Non-Poetry for *....* When poetry is written by non-*poets* and read by non-readers. *...* The "blank and ruin" of the Poems from *Guantanamo*is in the American reader's *...* poemsand*poet*ics.blogspot.com/ - Cached- Similar 2. Poems and Poetics: Outsider Poems, A Mini-Anthology in Progress *...* Outsider Poems, A Mini-Anthology in Progress (14): *David Baptiste Chiro= t *, Non-Poetry for Non-Readers (Poems from *Guant=E1namo*) *...* Even giv= ing the *poets* a "break" for writing in traditions foreign to Americans, an= d their being translated *...* poemsand*poet*ics.blogspot.com/.../outsider-poems-mini-anthology-in.html= - Cached Show more results from poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com 3. KAURAB Online :: A Bengali Poetry Webzine :: Translation Site The circumstances of the *poets*, the Pentagon supervision of censorships, *...* With the *Guantanamo* Poems, as Flagg Miller suggests in his excellent preface, *....* *David Baptiste Chirot* is an amazing litterateur, artist, reader and critic. *...* www.kaurab.com/english/books/*guantanamo*.html - Cached 4. *David*-*Baptiste Chirot* // Word For/Word: A Journal of New Writing = * ...* Some American reviewers and commentators on the *Poets* of *Guantanamo*have so far found exactly what they were looking for: "bad" poetry in Formal terms, *...* www.wordforword.info/vol13/dbc.htm - Cached * * * * *JFAC Horrified by New Abuse Revelations, Aafia Siddiqui Forced to Walk Naked Over the Qur=92an FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 30th 2010 Contact: info@justiceforaafia.org * As hundreds of concerned citizens hold a Day of Remembrance in Pakistan to commemorate the seventh anniversary of her disappearance, the Justice for Aafia Coalition reveal for the first time, in the English language, specifi= c harrowing details of the abuse Aafia Siddiqui was forced to endure in the years spent in secret detention. During the course of an interview by Kamran Shahid on Pakistan=92s Front Li= ne, screened 26th March, Siddiqui=92s mother and sister described publicly for = the first time the various forms of torture she underwent at the hands of US agents. This included being: - forcefully stripped by six men and then repeatedly sexually abused - beaten with rifle butts until she bled - bound to a bed, with her hands and feet tied whilst unspecified forms of torture were administered to the soles of her feet and head - injected with unknown substances - dragged by her hair - having her hairs pulled out one by one - forced to walk on the Qu=92ran which had been desecrated in her cell whilst naked Maryam Hassan, founder of the *Justice for Aafia Coalition (JFAC)*, commented:* =93These most recent horrific revelations shine a light for the first time = on years of detention shrouded until now in darkness and mystery. Forced nudity, violent sexual abuse, the desecration of the Qu=92ran, video-taped torture sessions have become infamous hallmarks of US detention since the start of the War on Terror, from Bagram to Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. The Obama administration must immediately disclose any video evidence in it= s possession relating to Ms Siddiqui=92s detention and torture. The American public has a right to know what is being carried out in its name as much as the Pakistani public are deserving of knowing the horrendous abuse one of their citizens has been subjected to. =93 * For the full interview, transcribed and translated into English by the Justice for Aafia Coalition, please visit: http://justiceforaafia.org/index.php/articles/articles/477-front-line-inter= view-with-aafia-siddiquis-family- To view the video recording of the interview in Urdu: http://justiceforaafia.org/index.php/multimedia/475-aafia-siddiqi-front-lin= e-special-program-26th-march-2010 A version with English subtitles will be available on www.justiceforaafia.org soon. [Ends] * Notes for editor: * 1. The Justice for Aafia Coalition is an umbrella body for a number of organizations, groups, and activists created in February 2010 to campaign for the release and return of Aafia Siddiqui and for the opening of a full investigation into the circumstances of her detention and the whereabouts o= f her children. 2. Aafia Siddiqui=92s lawyers maintain that she was abducted by the Pakista= ni and US agents along with her three children in 2003 and rendered to Afghanistan where she was detained by American forces for over five years. Siddiqui claims she was abused, raped and tortured throughout her detention= . She was convicted in February 2010 of allegedly firing on US soldiers while in custody in what appears to have been a grave miscarriage of justice. Whilst her son Ahmed was released in September 2008 from Afghan custody, tw= o of her children remain unaccounted for to date. For full details of Aafia Siddiqui=92s case, please visit www.justiceforaafia.org [image: Ensure Justice for the Women of Atenco] Mexican authorities are trying to brush police violence under the rug. Keep the heat on. Ensure justice for the women of Atenco. Dear David, When the women left their homes that May morning in 2006, *they never imagined the horrific experience that awaited them.* In San Salvador Atenco, they encountered masses of police cracking down on protests by a local peasant organization. Two people were killed, including a 14-year-old boy. Even bystanders faced beatings, house raids, and indiscriminate detentions. Of the hundreds detained, at least 45 were women= . On the way to prison, in a state police vehicle, many of the women were beaten, raped, and sexually assaulted by police officers who had arrested them. More than two dozen of the women recounted being sexually assaulted. But th= e prison's medical staff ignored their claims and merely stitched up their most obvious head wounds, conducting no forensic exams. *Almost four years later, these women still wait for justice. * [image: Mexico's highest ranks have dragged their feet on this police brutality case for four years. It's time hold to them accountable.] The police officers' appalling crimes have been exposed. Help Amnesty pressure Mexican officials to prosecute the real criminals. In a particularly cruel twist, many of the women arrested at Atenco were charged with crimes such as ''blocking public roads.'' They even served prison time, with the last of the women released in 2008. The Atenco abuse investigation is now in the hands of Mexico state authorities. Amnesty International is calling on them to bring the officers to justice and provide reparations to survivors and their families. Please help Amnesty fight for the women of Atenco.They have endured horrific crimes and deserve justice now. Your tax-deductible gift will help us protect their human rights. In solidarity, Diego Zavala Country Specialist for Mexico Amnesty International USA [image: 1] * * *JFAC Horrified by New Abuse Revelations, Aafia Siddiqui Forced to Walk Naked Over the Qur=92an FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 30th 2010 Contact: info@justiceforaafia.org * As hundreds of concerned citizens hold a Day of Remembrance in Pakistan to commemorate the seventh anniversary of her disappearance, the Justice for Aafia Coalition reveal for the first time, in the English language, specifi= c harrowing details of the abuse Aafia Siddiqui was forced to endure in the years spent in secret detention. During the course of an interview by Kamran Shahid on Pakistan=92s Front Li= ne, screened 26th March, Siddiqui=92s mother and sister described publicly for = the first time the various forms of torture she underwent at the hands of US agents. This included being: - forcefully stripped by six men and then repeatedly sexually abused - beaten with rifle butts until she bled - bound to a bed, with her hands and feet tied whilst unspecified forms of torture were administered to the soles of her feet and head - injected with unknown substances - dragged by her hair - having her hairs pulled out one by one - forced to walk on the Qu=92ran which had been desecrated in her cell whilst naked Maryam Hassan, founder of the *Justice for Aafia Coalition (JFAC)*, commented:* =93These most recent horrific revelations shine a light for the first time = on years of detention shrouded until now in darkness and mystery. Forced nudity, violent sexual abuse, the desecration of the Qu=92ran, video-taped torture sessions have become infamous hallmarks of US detention since the start of the War on Terror, from Bagram to Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. The Obama administration must immediately disclose any video evidence in it= s possession relating to Ms Siddiqui=92s detention and torture. The American public has a right to know what is being carried out in its name as much as the Pakistani public are deserving of knowing the horrendous abuse one of their citizens has been subjected to. =93 * For the full interview, transcribed and translated into English by the Justice for Aafia Coalition, please visit: http://justiceforaafia.org/index.php/articles/articles/477-front-line-inter= view-with-aafia-siddiquis-family- To view the video recording of the interview in Urdu: http://justiceforaafia.org/index.php/multimedia/475-aafia-siddiqi-front-lin= e-special-program-26th-march-2010 A version with English subtitles will be available on www.justiceforaafia.org soon. [Ends] * Notes for editor: * 1. The Justice for Aafia Coalition is an umbrella body for a number of organizations, groups, and activists created in February 2010 to campaign for the release and return of Aafia Siddiqui and for the opening of a full investigation into the circumstances of her detention and the whereabouts o= f her children. 2. Aafia Siddiqui=92s lawyers maintain that she was abducted by the Pakista= ni and US agents along with her three children in 2003 and rendered to Afghanistan where she was detained by American forces for over five years. Siddiqui claims she was abused, raped and tortured throughout her detention= . She was convicted in February 2010 of allegedly firing on US soldiers while in custody in what appears to have been a grave miscarriage of justice. Whilst her son Ahmed was released in September 2008 from Afghan custody, tw= o of her children remain unaccounted for to date. For full details of Aafia Siddiqui=92s case, please visit www.justiceforaafia.org [image: Ensure Justice for the Women of Atenco] Mexican authorities are trying to brush police violence under the rug. Keep the heat on. Ensure justice for the women of Atenco. Dear David, When the women left their homes that May morning in 2006, *they never imagined the horrific experience that awaited them.* In San Salvador Atenco, they encountered masses of police cracking down on protests by a local peasant organization. Two people were killed, including a 14-year-old boy. Even bystanders faced beatings, house raids, and indiscriminate detentions. Of the hundreds detained, at least 45 were women= . On the way to prison, in a state police vehicle, many of the women were beaten, raped, and sexually assaulted by police officers who had arrested them. More than two dozen of the women recounted being sexually assaulted. But th= e prison's medical staff ignored their claims and merely stitched up their most obvious head wounds, conducting no forensic exams. *Almost four years later, these women still wait for justice. * [image: Mexico's highest ranks have dragged their feet on this police brutality case for four years. It's time hold to them accountable.] The police officers' appalling crimes have been exposed. Help Amnesty pressure Mexican officials to prosecute the real criminals. In a particularly cruel twist, many of the women arrested at Atenco were charged with crimes such as ''blocking public roads.'' They even served prison time, with the last of the women released in 2008. The Atenco abuse investigation is now in the hands of Mexico state authorities. Amnesty International is calling on them to bring the officers to justice and provide reparations to survivors and their families. Please help Amnesty fight for the women of Atenco.They have endured horrific crimes and deserve justice now. Your tax-deductible gift will help us protect their human rights. In solidarity, Diego Zavala Country Specialist for Mexico Amnesty International USA [image: 1] * * * * *JFAC Horrified by New Abuse Revelations, Aafia Siddiqui Forced to Walk Naked Over the Qur=92an FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 30th 2010 Contact: info@justiceforaafia.org * As hundreds of concerned citizens hold a Day of Remembrance in Pakistan to commemorate the seventh anniversary of her disappearance, the Justice for Aafia Coalition reveal for the first time, in the English language, specifi= c harrowing details of the abuse Aafia Siddiqui was forced to endure in the years spent in secret detention. During the course of an interview by Kamran Shahid on Pakistan=92s Front Li= ne, screened 26th March, Siddiqui=92s mother and sister described publicly for = the first time the various forms of torture she underwent at the hands of US agents. This included being: - forcefully stripped by six men and then repeatedly sexually abused - beaten with rifle butts until she bled - bound to a bed, with her hands and feet tied whilst unspecified forms of torture were administered to the soles of her feet and head - injected with unknown substances - dragged by her hair - having her hairs pulled out one by one - forced to walk on the Qu=92ran which had been desecrated in her cell whilst naked Maryam Hassan, founder of the *Justice for Aafia Coalition (JFAC)*, commented:* =93These most recent horrific revelations shine a light for the first time = on years of detention shrouded until now in darkness and mystery. Forced nudity, violent sexual abuse, the desecration of the Qu=92ran, video-taped torture sessions have become infamous hallmarks of US detention since the start of the War on Terror, from Bagram to Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. The Obama administration must immediately disclose any video evidence in it= s possession relating to Ms Siddiqui=92s detention and torture. The American public has a right to know what is being carried out in its name as much as the Pakistani public are deserving of knowing the horrendous abuse one of their citizens has been subjected to. =93 * For the full interview, transcribed and translated into English by the Justice for Aafia Coalition, please visit: http://justiceforaafia.org/index.php/articles/articles/477-front-line-inter= view-with-aafia-siddiquis-family- To view the video recording of the interview in Urdu: http://justiceforaafia.org/index.php/multimedia/475-aafia-siddiqi-front-lin= e-special-program-26th-march-2010 A version with English subtitles will be available on www.justiceforaafia.org soon. [Ends] * Notes for editor: * 1. The Justice for Aafia Coalition is an umbrella body for a number of organizations, groups, and activists created in February 2010 to campaign for the release and return of Aafia Siddiqui and for the opening of a full investigation into the circumstances of her detention and the whereabouts o= f her children. 2. Aafia Siddiqui=92s lawyers maintain that she was abducted by the Pakista= ni and US agents along with her three children in 2003 and rendered to Afghanistan where she was detained by American forces for over five years. Siddiqui claims she was abused, raped and tortured throughout her detention= . She was convicted in February 2010 of allegedly firing on US soldiers while in custody in what appears to have been a grave miscarriage of justice. Whilst her son Ahmed was released in September 2008 from Afghan custody, tw= o of her children remain unaccounted for to date. For full details of Aafia Siddiqui=92s case, please visit www.justiceforaafia.org [image: Ensure Justice for the Women of Atenco] Mexican authorities are trying to brush police violence under the rug. Keep the heat on. Ensure justice for the women of Atenco. Dear David, When the women left their homes that May morning in 2006, *they never imagined the horrific experience that awaited them.* In San Salvador Atenco, they encountered masses of police cracking down on protests by a local peasant organization. Two people were killed, including a 14-year-old boy. Even bystanders faced beatings, house raids, and indiscriminate detentions. Of the hundreds detained, at least 45 were women= . On the way to prison, in a state police vehicle, many of the women were beaten, raped, and sexually assaulted by police officers who had arrested them. More than two dozen of the women recounted being sexually assaulted. But th= e prison's medical staff ignored their claims and merely stitched up their most obvious head wounds, conducting no forensic exams. *Almost four years later, these women still wait for justice. * [image: Mexico's highest ranks have dragged their feet on this police brutality case for four years. It's time hold to them accountable.] The police officers' appalling crimes have been exposed. Help Amnesty pressure Mexican officials to prosecute the real criminals. In a particularly cruel twist, many of the women arrested at Atenco were charged with crimes such as ''blocking public roads.'' They even served prison time, with the last of the women released in 2008. The Atenco abuse investigation is now in the hands of Mexico state authorities. Amnesty International is calling on them to bring the officers to justice and provide reparations to survivors and their families. Please help Amnesty fight for the women of Atenco.They have endured horrific crimes and deserve justice now. Your tax-deductible gift will help us protect their human rights. In solidarity, Diego Zavala Country Specialist for Mexico Amnesty International USA [image: 1] [image: AAUW Action Network] *AAUW Presentation of Why So Few? Women in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics Now Available Online* More Info *AAUW Presentation of Why So Few? Women in Science, Technology, Engineering= , and Mathematics Now Available Online* AAUW's newest research report, *Why So Few? Women in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics*, was featured in an event at George Washingto= n University on March 25. The research findings were presented by co-authors Catherine Hill, Andresse St. Rose, Christianne Corbett, and scholar Shelley Correll, whose work was profiled in the report. In addition, AAUW Executive Director Linda Hallman moderated a panel discussion that featured leaders i= n a variety of STEM-related fields and focused on how to move this research t= o practice. 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