========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:43:57 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: twshaner@COMCAST.NET Subject: Kit Robinson reads in Eugene 6/3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A New Poetry @ DIVA presents=20 Kit Robinson=20 Jen Tynes=20 Ce Rosenow=20 =C2=A0=20 Saturday, April 3, 7:30 PM=20 DIVA (Downtown Initiative for the Visual Arts)=20 110 W. Broadway=20 Eugene , Oregon=20 541.344.3482=20 www.divacenter.org=20 =C2=A0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:05:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Glass Subject: With + Stand 4: The Lisa Robertson Issue PDF! Comments: To: withplusstand@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Friends,,, For the first time in our history, With + Stand is making available a pdf version of the journal. A link to the issue and pictures from the reading/release party at Urban Ore Eco Park in Berkeley are here: http://withplusstand.blogspot.com/2010/03/lisa-robertson-issue-reading-release.html There are a limited number of physical copies of the journal still available, for free, as always. Please email if you're interested. Dan ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:08:31 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Amanda Earl Subject: National Poetry Month celebration begins April 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable happy national poetry month from AngelHousePress. please visit www.nationalpoetrymonth.ca every day=20 in April for 30 days of fish, klingon, asemic=20 writing, Gertrude, Alice, comedy, intrigue, lust,=20 love, fl=E2neurs, frostbites, visual poetry,water,=20 hearts, kidneys, lungs, ghosts, gusts, ghouls and=20 gulls from Budapest, Belgium, England, France, the USA and Canada. thanks to the contributors and those who=20 submitted poems for making this celebration=20 possible. this is our second annual celebration=20 of the nation of poetry. thanks to the readers=20 for visiting the site and celebrating with us. best, Amanda Amanda Earl AngelHousePress www.angelhousepress.com the angel is in the house =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:39:23 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: April 8: Samples / a reading from 9 poets in Denver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Samples: a reading from 9 poets Thursday, April 8th 7pm at PLUS Gallery 2501 Larimer Street Denver, Colorado http://www.plusgallery.com admittance is free James Belflower Caroline Crumpacker Susanne Dyckman Jim Elledge Jane Gregory Jennifer Karmin Susan Manchester Jaime Robles Sarah Suzor Books will be available from presses: EtherDome Chapbooks http://etherdomepoetry.org Instance Press http://www.instancepress.com Flim Forum Press http://www.flimforum.blogspot.com Shearsman Books http://www.shearsman.com The Song Cave http://www.the-song-cave.com Woodland Editions http://www.fivefingersreview.org/woodland_editions.htm For more information email highway101press@gmail.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:46:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Laurie Anderson, someone else, Alan Sondheim, violin, mandolin, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Laurie Anderson, someone else, Alan Sondheim, violin, mandolin, etc. Again, from what passes for archives. http://www.alansondheim.org/lauriealan0.mp3 This is from 1975? I lose track of dates. This was recorded in Laurie's loft; someone else is heard on occasion but who? We played together a few times. Laurie's early performances were the most amazing I've ever seen. This cassette is 35 years old and mint. I don't remember playing mandolin this well. Enjoy. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:14:34 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: GRL - 2nd Year Anniversary Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -- http://gentlyread.wordpress.com/2010/04/01= Nathan Logan on Slaves:=0A=0A-- http://gentlyread.wordpress.com/2010/04/01= /when-will-we-stop-swimming-nathan-logan-on-amy-kings-slaves-to-do-these-th= ings/=0A=0A=0AGently Read LiteratureApril 2010 Issue 25 2nd Year Annivers= ary www.gentlyread.wordpress.com =0AReviews of Contemporary Poetry and Li= terary Fiction In the Beginning There Was Mathias Svalina: Dennis Etzel Jr.= on Mathias Svalina's Destruction Myth http://wp.me/pcuKI-wx You've Been W= arned: Jen Michalski on American Soma by Savannah Schroll Guz http://wp.me/= pcuKI-ww Lost Inside Maryam: Marcia Lynx Qualey on Mansoura Ez Eldin's Mary= am's Maze http://wp.me/pcuKI-wJ My Turn to Praise: Rick Marlatt on Jack Hen= ry's With the Patience of Monuments http://wp.me/pcuKI-wK Slip Back Into Li= ving: Glenda Burgess on JW Marshall's Meaning A Cloud http://wp.me/pcuKI-wO= The Dialogue of Origin and Ear: Zach Savich on Joshua Harmon's Scape http:= //wp.me/pcuKI-wN These Are No Temporary Stars: David James on Keith Taylor'= s If the World Becomes So Bright http://wp.me/pcuKI-wL Without That Bottle = of Tequila: James Tolan on Kim Addonizio's Lucifer at the Starlite http://w= p.me/pcuKI-wP When Will We Stop Swimming?: Nathan Logan on Amy King's Slave= s To Do These Things http://wp.me/pcuKI-wM Breaking the Law: Jim Ruland on Patrick Somerville's= The Cradle http://wp.me/pcuKI-wv April=E2=80=99s Featured Artist: Alexis D= uque, http://www.praxis-art.com/eng/ =0A-- =0AHTML GIANT -- You might like= me too: http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/i-like-amy-king-a-lot/ =0A= =0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:29 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mathias Svalina Subject: Octopus Books Open Reading Period Begins Today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Octopus Books will hold an open reading period for full-length poetry manuscripts this month. Manuscripts must be submitted between April Fools day and April 30, 2010. More details here: http://www.octopusbooks.net/submit.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:15:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bonnie MacAllister Subject: SWAN Day Reading 4/1 7 p.m. Philadelphia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thursday, April 1, 7:00 pm SWAN (Support Women Artists Now) Day Reading Featuring: Lora Bloom, Jane Cassady, Bonnie MacAllister, and Dr. Niama Leslie Williams. SWAN Day/Support Women Artists Now Day is a new international holiday that celebrates women artists. It is an annual event taking place on the last Saturday of March (Women=92s History Month) and the surrounding weeks. Celebrate at Big Blue Marble Bookstore with a curated line-up of readings followed by a women's open reading and art share. Event is sponsored by Women's Caucus for Art Philadelphia, Women Artist Network, and Breaking Down Barriers Enterprises Location: Big Blue Marble Bookstore Street: 551 Carpenter Lane Philadelphia, PA http://www.*big**blue**marble*books.com --=20 http://bonnie-macallister.blogspot.com/ http://tinyurl.com/bonnie-macallister =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 04:12:22 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: WILLA's Website Has Launched! Comments: To: "Discussion of Women\\'s Poetry List" , "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WILLA is live -- please check out our features (including my work on "The C= ount"), tell your friends, forward widely, and stay tuned!=0A=0ABest,=0A=0A= Amy=0Ahttp://willaweb.org/=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Cate M= arvin Dear Friends, You may or may not recall that eight months ago I sent= out an email about the need for an organization for women writers of liter= ature. The response was a bit overwhelming. As, it soon became clear, is t= he need. Since that time, my Co-Director Erin Belieu and I have pulled toge= ther a simply amazing group of women writers to help us pull off the creati= on of our new organization: WILLA (Women in Letters & Literary Arts). I can= =E2=80=99t begin to tell you all of time and thought that has gone into thi= s! It was truly, apologies for the clich=C3=A9, a labor of love. This is to= say: we launched our website today. Please check WILLA out at: http://will= aweb.org With happiness, Cate --=0ACate Marvin, Associate Professor=0ADepar= tment of English=0ACollege of Staten Island, CUNY Co-Director, WILLA (Women= in Letters and Literary Arts) www.willaweb.org=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:37:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Daniel Remein, Editor" Subject: Perfectbound Whiskey & Fox! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cheers all: Whiskey & Fox V. 4 No. 1, previously announced below for free PDF download, is now also available for purchase on the cheap as a perfect bound book, is you fancy a fancier format. The cover features one heck of a respectable looking fox nosing around an archaeologist's campsite in Alaska. No kidding. Everyone check it out at http://whiskeyandfox.org Vol 4. No. 1, 'doing politics with animals,' includes: A Preface from the editors, and work (in order of appearance) from Robin Clarke, Jeff T. Johnson, Ross Gay, Gary Lehmann, Claire Donato, Rebecca Mertz, Nicola Masciandaro, Eileen A. Joy, Chris Miller, and Afterwords from Karl Steel. contact at editors [at] whiskeyandfox [dot] org. Very Best the Editors ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 23:34:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: CA Conrad Subject: Oppen URCHIN 4/11/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oppen URCHIN 4/11/10 GEORGE OPPEN all details here: http://UrchinPoetry.blogspot.com SEE YOU THERE, above the image of the engine -- PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:59:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: William Allegrezza Subject: New E-Book/POD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Check out David Huntsperger's new e-book/POD Postindustrial Folktales on Moria. http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html Bill Allegrezza ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:22:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Wilcox Subject: Re: National Poetry Month celebration begins April 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain In Albany, every day is Poetry Month! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:08:14 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "St. Thomasino" Subject: a noun sing the Alan Halsey interview at e=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B7ratio?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) e=B7 e=B7ratio is celebrating poetry with the Alan Halsey interview: http://www.eratiopostmodernpoetry.com/editor_Alan_Halsey.html Alan Halsey is the author of Marginalien and Lives of the Poets (both =20= Five Seasons Press), Not Everything Remotely (Selected Poems =20 1978-2004) (Salt) and Term as in Aftermath (Ahadada). e=B7ratio 13 features poetry by Laynie Browne, Jill Jones, Jane Adam, =20= Jeff Encke, Joseph F. Keppler, Mark Cunningham, Jadon Rempel, Keith =20 Higginbotham, Anne Fitzgerald, and Halvard Johnson, and with e=B7ratio =20= editions e=B7chaps by Travis Macdonald and Carey Scott Wilkerson http://www.eratiopostmodernpoetry.com/issue13.html e=B7ratio is reading for issue 14, the fall 2010 issue. http://www.eratiopostmodernpoetry.com e=B7ratio is edited for real by Gregory Vincent St. Thomasino e=B7 =20= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:50:03 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Glass Subject: Re: WILLA's Website Has Launched! In-Reply-To: <75121.92594.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations and thank yous to everyone involved=97it's an important resource, an important set of questions, and it looks great. Dan On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:12 AM, amy king wrote: > WILLA is live -- please check out our features (including my work on "The > Count"), tell your friends, forward widely, and stay tuned! > > Best, > > Amy > http://willaweb.org/ > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Cate Marvin Dear Friends, You may or may not recall that eight > months ago I sent out an email about the need for an organization for wom= en > writers of literature. The response was a bit overwhelming. As, it soon > became clear, is the need. Since that time, my Co-Director Erin Belieu an= d I > have pulled together a simply amazing group of women writers to help us p= ull > off the creation of our new organization: WILLA (Women in Letters & Liter= ary > Arts). I can=92t begin to tell you all of time and thought that has gone = into > this! It was truly, apologies for the clich=E9, a labor of love. This is = to > say: we launched our website today. Please check WILLA out at: > http://willaweb.org With happiness, Cate -- > Cate Marvin, Associate Professor > Department of English > College of Staten Island, CUNY Co-Director, WILLA (Women in Letters and > Literary Arts) www.willaweb.org > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 22:13:52 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Bruce Andrews interview at The Argotist Online Comments: To: British Poetics , Poetryetc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bruce Andrews interview at The Argotist Online: http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Andrews%20interview.htm Excerpt: "Since I=E2=80=99m interested in the experience of the reader, I haven=E2= =80=99t been interested in chance. Chance might seem to open the possibilit= ies for the reader to the widest level, but often it doesn=E2=80=99t get th= e reader anywhere, it=E2=80=99s so open that nothing counts, nothing has an= y significance, none of the connections are designed to have any effect on = the reader, and therefore it often seems like it ignores the reader, just a= s much as any type of closed textual work. So in a weird way chance and the= old notion of intentionality end up having the same relationship to the re= ader, in both cases the reader is ignored. Either you don=E2=80=99t care wh= at the reader makes of something because there=E2=80=99s not much to make o= f it, or you ignore the reader because you=E2=80=99ve already figured out w= hat everything means, maybe they=E2=80=99ll get it maybe they won=E2=80=99t= , but you don=E2=80=99t care either way because your job is to create this = edifice, this autotelic text, as if it means by itself and doesn=E2=80=99t = require the reader to get on board, and if the reader does have some intere= st in getting on board then they have to pay tuition to take the class to b= e told what things actually meant as if the lecturer is ventriloquizing the= author. You know, if you read old lit crit, it=E2=80=99s often outrageous,= the presumptiveness of it. I mean, =E2=80=9Cthis means this, and I know be= cause this is what the author meant.=E2=80=9D I mean, who the fuck knows wh= at the author meant? That=E2=80=99s always irritating to me, because it clo= ses things down. But in a weird way, totally randomizing product does too." =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:38:15 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Glass Subject: Interview with Bruce Andrews online Comments: To: withplusstand@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear folks,,, An interview I did with the fascinating poet Bruce Andrews during his recent left coast trip is now online @: http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Andrews%20interview.htm And just a reminder, you can find the latest issue of With + Stand @: http://withplusstand.blogspot.com/2010/03/lisa-robertson-issue-reading-release.html All bests,,, Dan ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:58:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: NYT Book Review: Next Big Thing in English: uSING m.r.i.'S & Evolution to Explore Reading of Fiction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Book News =20 =20 =20 Next Big Thing in English: Knowing They Know That You Know =20 =20 By PATRICIA COHEN=20 =20 Some scholars are turning to M.R.I.'s and evolutionary theory to explore h= ow and why people read fiction.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/books/01li= t.html?nl=3Dbooks&emc=3Dbooksupdateemb5 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:00:26 -0700 Reply-To: derek beaulieu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: derek beaulieu Subject: new from NO press: Kyle Schlesinger's DARK GLASSES Comments: To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@invalid.domain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO press is pleased to announce the publication of Kyle Schlesinger's DARK GLASSES 12 pages, sewn binding. published in an edition of 40 copies (20 of which are for sale) $3 each. for more information, or to order copies, please email: derek beaulieu derek@housepress.ca http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/beaulieu/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:29:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: April 7: Dusie Pussipo Stonecoast Femiganza in Denver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dusie Pussipo Stonecoast Femiganza Wednesday, April 7th 7-10pm at Packing House Center for the Arts http://www.controlgroupproductions.org 835 E. 50th Avenue Denver, Colorado FREE! Everyone welcome! featuring: Bronwen Tate Ann Bogle Jennifer Karmin Marthe Reed Annie Finch Amy King Cara Benson Mackenzie Carignan Danielle Pafunda Deborah Poe Ana Bozicevic Teresa Carmody Kate Durbin Megan Volpert Elizabeth Hildreth Anna Aguilar-Amat Sarah Rosenthal Krystal Languell K. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 22:29:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: jared schickling Subject: Mayday #2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All=2C Pleased to announce the second issue of Mayday Magazine: http://www.maydaymagazine.com/ All the best -- Jared =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb= ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:18:28 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: twshaner@COMCAST.NET Subject: Correction: Kit Robinson reads today in Eugene (not June 3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had posted a correction to the 6/3 date earlier -- that Kit was reading o= n April 3 rather than June 3 -- but the post below went out anyway.=20 In any case, I'll take this opportunity to make a plug for A New Poetry @ D= IVA:=20 If anyone's passing through the region and would like to give a reading, pl= ease let me know. I'm trying to coordinate readings with the Spare Room ser= ies up in Portland and Kasey Mohammad's reading series down in Ashland, Ore= gon. And we try to adhere to a first Saturday of each month schedule, thoug= h that's flexible. In fact, our next reading is on Monday, May 17 and inclu= des the poets Chris Nealon and Jenne Knight.=20 My email address is twshaner@comcast.net=20 --Tim Shaner=20 Date: =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:43:57 +0000=20 From: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 twshaner@COMCAST.NET=20 Subject: Kit Robinson reads in Eugene 6/3=20 A New Poetry @ DIVA presents=3D20=20 Kit Robinson=3D20=20 Jen Tynes=3D20=20 Ce Rosenow=3D20=20 =3DC2=3DA0=3D20=20 Saturday, April 3, 7:30 PM=3D20=20 DIVA (Downtown Initiative for the Visual Arts)=3D20=20 110 W. Broadway=3D20=20 Eugene , Oregon=3D20=20 541.344.3482=3D20=20 www.divacenter.org=3D20=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:31:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Patrick F. Durgin" Subject: Peter O'Leary on Robert Ducan's ORIGINS OF OLD SON MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter O'Leary is the latest guest blogger at www.kenningeditions.com, with a fresh essay on Robert Duncan's recently exhumed poets theater piece, ORIGINS OF OLD SON. Have a look: http://www.kenningeditions.com/?p=209 And don't miss the launch event for THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER: 1945-1985, edited by Kevin Killian and David Brazil, this coming Wednesday evening at the Poetry Project, St. Mark's Church, NYC. Details at www.poetryproject.org Future guest bloggers will include Aldon Nielsen (on Lorenzo Thomas) and the duo of Laura Elrick and Rodrigo Toscano (on performing Hannah Weiner). ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:49:21 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: A Feminist Perspective/Its Suppression: Iran, Israel & the Conspicuous Absence of Nuclear Debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable from Jewish Voice for Peace: In an extensive, research-based 2009 position paper titled: On Nuclear Weapons: A Feminist Perspective, Ednay Gorney and Hedva Eyal of the Isha L'Isha Haifa Feminist Center wrote, "the Israeli public remains excluded from the [nuclear] debate. The public does not ask questions, does not demand that the state takes responsibility, nor does it demand to be involved in decision making; it accepts and is content with the information or, more accurately, with the lack of information." This passive indifference to the nuclear weaponry widely believed to be in the public's backyard is, in my view, a highly dangerous manifestation of Israel's longtime and entrenched militarization. As Gorney and Eyal have pu= t it, "Decision-making in all areas related to security is characterized by secrecy and vagueness, excluding anyone who does not belong to the security elite. =85 The secret functions both on the outside as well as on the insid= e. Denying information under the guise of maintaining secrecy is one of the common ways through which elites maintain their status. =85 [While o]ne of = the ways they can attain legitimacy for their control and actions is to continuously disseminate and instill fear =96 real and imaginary =96 among = the citizens of Israel. This fear justifies and, in turn, foments military powe= r and its use against any security threat, as defined by this elite group." Meanwhile, Gorney and Eyal have noted, "We are flooded with information on the great threat Iran poses and on the necessity of military operations. Th= e debate within the Israeli public discourse is almost devoid of the possibility of solution through diplomatic means." Outlining the severely undemocratic suppression of any public nuclear debat= e in Israel, the position paper lists a line of researchers, journalists, politicians, activists and ex-security personnel who's critical voices have been stifled by the security establishment, using a broad range of tactics. This in addition to the constant dissemination of fear underpinning militarization in general and the unquestioning Israeli public acceptance o= f its governments' nuclear armament in particular. Thus, the risks of such armament to this public itself, as well as the entire area or even the globe, go unexamined and undebated for decades on end. Resisting this reality and reaching for an actual, participatory democracy, Gorney and Eyal explain, "As feminists we wish to expose the connections between the policy of opacity, concealment and fear, and the current perception of security. We want to take responsibility for our lives and fo= r actions carried out in our name." In one of the rare public voices taking up these issues, the position paper concludes: "We demand the removal of opacity surrounding the issue of nuclear weapons in Israel; We demand a public debate and the development of an alternative policy that will enable us to live in peace in the Middle East; We demand nuclear disarmament; We demand that the State of Israel join the International Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons." To read the full 22 page position paper, see: http://www.isha.org.il/files/files/File/1325_reports/On_Nuclear_Weapons.pdf ----------------------------------------- Another such public voice, sounded now for many years, is that of nuclear historian and analyst, Avner Cohen, whose work is one of main sources repeatedly referred to by the Isha L'Isha position paper. Cohen is equally critical of successive Israeli governments' successful barring of nuclear debate and, in the recent op-ed forwarded in full below, offers a series of serious arguments against what he views as the irresponsible and extremely dangerous possibility that Israel might launch a military attack against Iran in an attempt to quash its nuclear capacity. Cohen's op-ed, converging in part with some of the conclusions presented by the Isha L'Isha position paper, was published April 2nd in Haaretz. Rela Mazali ------------------------------------------ http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1160524.html Fri., April 02, 2010 We look at Iran and see ourselves By Avner Cohen If Israel takes military action against Iran, it will be one of the biggest decisions in the history of the state. The risks involved will make it unprecedented. There is no comparison between such a decision and the ones that establishe= d and implemented the so-called Begin doctrine: the decision by Menachem Begin's government to attack the Osirak reactor in Iraq in 1981 and the attack on the nuclear facility in Syria in 2007. In terms of both the complexity of the military operation and the uncertainty about the consequences and where they may lead, there is a qualitative difference between the legacy of the past and the challenge of the present. The seriousness of the challenge requires as open and thorough a public discussion as possible. But unfortunately, such a discussion has been virtually nonexistent, even on a basic conceptual level. Instead of a publi= c discussion there has been a belligerent press, which makes demagogic use of statements that intensify the message of the politics of fear. These includ= e expressions such as "Iran is galloping toward a bomb" and a "second Holocaust" that Israel must prevent. Such discourse creates a feeling that if Iran is not attacked, and soon, we have no choice but to accept a nuclea= r Iran. It's doubtful whether the people making those statements are capable of giving them a precise (technical and political) interpretation. It's doubtful whether they have a suitable answer to the question: When should Iran be considered a nuclear state? Where exactly is the red line? What is the precise significance of such a line and what makes it red? One thing is clear: As long as Iran is a member of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, it will not be able to test a nuclear device or declare that it has one. Also, as long as Iran is subject to the treaty, it will not be a nuclear state according to the accepted definition of such a state. It's true that under cover of the treaty Iran can get very close to the nuclear threshold and still claim - as it claims now - that it is not deviating from its legal obligations under the treaty. Iran as a threshold state can perhaps even position itself a few weeks away from a nuclear test= . Such an Iran, despite supervision by the International Atomic Energy Agency= , will of necessity be opaque; there will always remain a fear that it is working in secret, including making weapons in secret. But even in such a case, Iran would be considered a threshold state, not an actual nuclear state. Even those who disparage the practical limitations of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (as Israelis tend to do) must recognize that it is almost impossible for Iran to be a nuclear state in the full sense without withdrawing from the treaty. And even if it is outside the treaty, it will take Iran years, many years, to make the transition from a threshold state to a mature nuclear state. Such a transition is not trivial; certainly it i= s not inevitable, even if we look at the experience of states that in the pas= t were considered threshold states and were not bound by the treaty's restrictions. For example, India, which carried out a nuclear test in 1998, is still making this transition slowly, and many experts say it should still not be considered a mature nuclear state. Even Pakistan, whose nuclear path was faster and more purposeful than India's, needed about a generation to becom= e a nuclear state to all extents and purposes. In its nuclear behavior Iran i= s more like India than Pakistan. It's ironic that an Iran under attack would probably become more determined and purposeful in its nuclear ambitions. After an attack, Iran would abando= n the treaty in protest, declare its right to nuclear arms and almost certainly succeed in implementing it. The public discussion in Israel about a nuclear Iran is simplistic, inadequate, confused and confusing. It reflects to some degree our own biases. We come from a culture of national security in which nuclear opacit= y has been exploited to the hilt to create a specific model of deterrence. Th= e result is that when we look at Iran we see ourselves: how we would behave i= n a similar situation. But Iran is not Israel exactly, and the Israeli experience does not necessarily reflect Iran's behavior. On the contrary, i= t leads to systematic errors when making assessments. The writer is the author of the book "Israel and the Bomb." His forthcoming book, "The Worst-Kept Secret," will be published in the United States in September. ................................................................ -------- Jewish Peace News editors: Joel Beinin Racheli Gai Rela Mazali Sarah Anne Minkin Judith Norman Lincoln Z. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:38:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Christophe Casamassima Subject: 2nd Annual Furniture Press Poetry Prize: open submissions till August 31 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2nd Annual Furniture Press Poetry Prize Deadline: August 31, 2010 Judge: M. Magnus, author of Verb Sap (Narrow House, 2008), and the forthcoming Heraclitean Pride (Furniture Press, 2010). Winner of the 2009 Furniture Press Poetry Prize: Emily Carr=92s Directions for Flying: Right Side Lower Arms Raise Arms Bend Knees Repeat on Left (36 Fits: A Young Wife's Almanac). The 2nd annual Furniture Press Poetry Prize will be awarded to the writer that best exemplifies the poetics and particularities=A0of Furniture Press=92 editors and judges. One judge will be invited to=A0determine a manuscript=92s =93pressability= =94 and will work with anonymous, unidentified=A0texts. Only the editor of Furniture Press will know the true identity of the=A0applicants and their work. Each text will be assigned a number and distributed to the judge. After the first round of readings, the judge will assign a winner. The winner of the Prize will receive a publishing contract in which the winning manuscript will be published as a trade paperback. S/he will also receive=A020 copies of his/her book. All applicants will receive a copy of the winning title. Please follow these guidelines when submitting an application: 1. Send 1 unpublished manuscript per entry.=A0It=A0must be between 50 and 80 pages of poetry and/or its derivatives. Include a cover letter with your name, address, eMail and short bio. Do not put your name or the title of=A0your submission=A0on the pages of the manuscript. 2. Send a $10 fee per manuscript submitted. 100% of the cash goes to the pressing, publishing and promotion of the winning books. Editors and judges do not get kickbacks. Please send checks or money orders only, made out to Furniture Press. 3. Send manuscripts to Furniture Press Poetry Prize c/o Towson Arts Collective, 406 York Road (lower level), Towson, MD 21204. The manuscripts may also be sent electronically to furniture.press.books@gmail.com. Please use the following format in your subject line: FPPP submission, [author name], [title]. Also, please let us know when the $10 fee was sent so we may match it with the submission. We strongly encourage you to send us work =96 it=92s also a very good way to catch the attention of the editors who may want to publish your work in the future, despite=A0whether or not you win the prize. Plus you get copies of the winning book (hopefully yours!) plus chapbooks and ephemera from our past catalogues. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:12:09 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: The Nation: Naomi Klein's Open Letter to Berkeley Students--BDS of Firms Backing/Funding Israel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since the Berkeley Campus has long been one of the most activist in the USA= , and its actions very often "read" as the symptoms of a much larger and steadily growing "malaise," thought to post this as"sings of things to come= " in the backlash against what journals in the UK and France have openly called "The New McCarthyism" in the USA and on US campuses specifically. This phrase, "The New McCarthyism" refers to the ongoing suppression of open, public debates and discourses, reporting and research regarding the US policies connected with Israel, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and many other people, places, events lumped together under various slogans and catchwords= , reporting and research. Since this suppression of Free Speech is done in the name of "Homeland Security, "The War on Terror," etc it essays to wrap censorship, silencing, "forcing one to speak" as a form of psychological terrorism in the America Flag. As was pointed out by Hermann Goering durin= g his trial at Nuremberg, even the most educated, sophisticated, respected citizens will give up just about everything, including Freedom of Speech, when confronted with a Threat--real or not--to their personal Security and/or that of the Homeland. So it is that even the "most secure" academics,bureaucrats, artists, poets, will gladly "hand over," or "report on" any thing and anyone they regard as a potential "threat," and/or an "existential threat." While Goering openly stated that even fabricated threats may be used to create the "atmosphere of fear, necessary for the "handing over of rights t= o Freedom of Speech," today in the USA such an admission is not accepted. Despite all the "faked" evidence of the last roughly nine years, one is supposed to unquestioningly believe any new "information" provided by the Israelis, as well as the Americans, In re som= e of the effects on American campuses, a number of Professors in the US have lost their jobs and had their published works and persons persistently attacked by pro-Israeli groups in the US, and, since January of 2009, have experienced an "open assault" conducted by the Israeli State's policy of "going after" any criticism of its policies shown on you tube, twitter, blogs, etc. Seven Palestinian students who had been awarded Fulbright fellowships to study at various American Universities were blocked from attending these institutions by refusal of visas to them by the Israeli State. (Eventually, under much pressure, one student was finally granted a visa.) Currently over 600 Palestinian students with grants nd fellowships to study at foreign institutions are being refused visas to study aboard. This, coupled withe systematic bombing and destruction of schools for students of al ages, has severely curtailed the educational opportunities for Palestinians who want to become doctors, nurses, engineers, teachers so that their fellows may be prepared for peace time jobs, in which capacity they would be working for a future Palestinian State aimed at developing conditions which would NOT encourage and nurture terrorism and violence. People being busy studying and working with definite and promising, peacefu= l goals in mind are going to be far less interested in jeopardizing their country and country persons by irrational acts By torpedoing such education and jobs in Palestine and by banning Palestinians from American institutions, the Israeli State is directly affecting the Americans' opportunities to meet Palestinians in a peaceful and cooperative situation. By also attacking any speech, videos, professors, publications, presses fro= m contributing positively to a discourse, a debate, whether critical or positive of the actions and policies of the Israeli State and its support groups aboard, the options of education about the actual aims and goals, th= e dreams and hopes of Palestinians and other peoples in the US, the option of their being shared openly with the American people, is being thwarted by a power not elected by the American people. This in itself poses a threat to future American openness to ideas and points of view both inside and outsid= e the US, and makes the students of today as well as the citizenry, ever more ignorant of all but one side of the question, of al but one side of discourses and debates. Effectively, American Institutions are being asked to do the work of the Israeli State and its support groups, at the expense of al others' histories, cultures, economic situations, of their poetries, musics, political and philosophical thinking etc etc-- This "New McCarthyism" is one of the ongoing situations which the Berkeley events and Naomi Klein's letter to the Berkeley Students is hoping, in part to ameliorate. Such a "New McCarthyism" hurts everyone--Israelis, Palestinians and Americans. By fostering, emphasizing and forcibly creating an atmosphere of fear,distrust, hatred and paranoia, based on deliberate mis- and disinformation, all peoples and the hope for a Peaceful debate and discussion hopefully bringing about Peaceful generations who can trust and learn frm each other how to create a Peaceful outcome to the present situation does npot need to be destroyed by such tactics as are presently being employed. Open Letter to Berkeley Students NAOMI KLEIN | When it comes to acting to end Israeli war crimes, the international response has not suffered from too much haste but from far to= o little. here are some (almost all ) very recent links regarding the situation re Palestinians, Americans and Israelis and their various positions regarding the events discussed above and an older post is one dealing specifically with the seven denied--and on= e letter allowed--admission to the USA to study on Fulbright Fellowships A rapidly growing Non Violent Protest movement organized by Jewish, Palestinian and Christian groups has beenstaging ever more proetests in Isarel and inside the Occupied Territories including within Gaza. The Israeli State has begun an open policy of suppression of any Peace movements within Israel, whether those organized by former IDF soldiers or religious and Human Rights activists, including students. The major policy now of protest groups both within and outside Israel world wide including in/at the borders with Palestine, is that of Non-Violence. There is a growing in terst in the study of Gandhi and his effective method= s in India, and those of Reverend Doctor martin Luther King, Jr in the USA. Non-Violence may, once again, prove to be the most effective approach to Violence, Occupation, illegal Sieges, the building of Apartheid and Border Walls in Israel and world wide--including those the USA has built and is building in Ira and Afghanistan as well as along the USA-Mexican Border, which is being built by a combined US-Isreali group of engineers, "contractors" and corporations. 1. *Palestinian student*: *Israel* Border Police beat me for hours *...* Mar 28, 2010 *...* *Palestinian student*: *Israel* Border Police beat me for hours -News *...* Russian Compound police station, where he was * denied* medical treatment. *...* 20:32 Barak: *U.S.* ties are 'pillar an= d cornerstone' of *Israel's* security *...* www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1159294.html - Cached 2. The *Palestine* Chronicle: A Leading Online Newspaper on *Palestine* = * ...* Mar 29, 2010 *...* Online news magazine and journal about *Palestine*, * Israel*, the Arab world, and the Middle East. *...* Keep *Us* On The Job= . Noam Chomsky: "The *Palestine* Chronicle has been *...* Passover is the = * seven*-day holiday of the Feast of Unleavened Bread *...* but are *denie= d * their basic human right of returning home. *...* *palestine*chronicle.com/ - Cached 3. *Palestinian* Center for Human Rights Hadeel is one of *seven* Gaza *students* who, on 29 May, all received letters from *...* In the face of mounting criticism from both within th= e *US* and *Israel*, *...* But hundreds of other *Palestinian students*remain stranded inside the *...* and they are being *denied* their rights to pursue their education= , and their futures. *...* www.pchrgaza.org/files/campaigns/.../Narratives_14.html - Cached- Similar 4. *Students* for Justice in *Palestine* at UC Berkeley =BB Events RJI staff living in the West Bank work with *Palestinian students* to produce *...* and their cousins are *denied* a narrative because of apartheid exclusion within *...* the *U.S.*, to organize and work for peace and justice in *Israel*/*Palestine*. *...* calsjp.org/events/ - Cached 5. *Palestine* Think Tank =BB Education Grassroots Activism *Israel* *...* Mar 19, 2010 *...* From UC Berkeley SJP (*Students* for Justice in * Palestine*) *....* 3 * Red Cross Report =93Dignity *Denied* in the Occup= ied *Palestinian* Territories=94 *....* "Arms Divestment and Cessation of *US*Military Aid to *Israel*" *...* *palestine*thinktank.com/.../wave-of-divestment-resolutions-destroys-* israel*s-legitimacy-on-campus/ - Cached 6. USC *Students* for Justice in *Palestine* *Israel* has neither confirmed nor *denied* its involvement in al-Mabhouh's death=85 *...* At least *seven* of the names on the passpor= ts belong to Israeli residents whose *....* While he was invited by a * student* organization to speak on *US*-Israeli *...* uscsjp.wordpress.com/ - Cached- Similar 7. Aberystwyth Friends of *Palestine* - *Student* Society | Facebook Please come all and support *us*, show presence! And bring candles! *...*About 11000 *students*, most from inside *Israel*, already attend the college in *..= . * She was later *denied* tenure in 2007. With the tenure review board voting unanimously *...* www.facebook.com/pages/. ..*Palestine*-* Student*.../161416943487 - Cached 8. Committee on Academic Freedom Letters The grant helped fund the York University conference, *Israel*/*Palestin= e *: Mapping *....* *US* Department of State's second visa denial for Professor Tareq Ramadan *...* September 21, 2006, *Israel*, Occupational therapy *students denied* access to *...* www.mesa.arizona.edu/caf/caf_letters.htm - Cached 9. *Israel* News - Daily News Alert from *Israel* Mar 31, 2010 *...* *Palestinian* Journalists Who Visited *Israel* Face Expulsion from *Palestinian* *...* and another member of the inner group of *seven* ministers, *...* An Obama administration official *denied* a recent BBC report according to which the *U.S.* is *...* Qutb, who spent time as a *student* in the *U.S.* in the late 1940s, *...* www.dailyalert.org/ - Cached- Similar 10. *Students* for Justice in *Palestine* - University of Pittsburgh The *US* Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation is partnering with Pitt = * Students* for *....* A *student* and *Palestinian*-led workshop with a focus on *Israel's* *....* -A reading of *Seven* Jewish Children, a 10-minute play written in response to *....* of Jewish towns was promoted, while development in Arab centers was *denied*. *...* www.pitt.edu/~sorc/pittsjp/recent.html- Cached- Similar =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:50:18 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: [amanda@amandaearl.com: NationalPoetryMonth.ca is live] happy national poetry month from AngelHousePress. please visit www.nationalpoetrymonth.ca every day=20 in April for 30 days of fish, klingon, asemic=20 writing, Gertrude, Alice, comedy, intrigue, lust,=20 love, fl=E2neurs, frostbite, visual poetry, water,=20 hearts, kidneys, lungs, ghosts, gusts, ghouls and=20 gulls from Budapest, Belgium, England, France, the USA and Canada. thanks to the contributors and those who=20 submitted poems for making this celebration=20 possible. this is our second annual celebration=20 of the nation of poetry. thanks to the readers=20 for visiting the site and celebrating with us. best, Amanda Amanda Earl AngelHousePress www.angelhousepress.com the angel is in the house=20 -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 02:37:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: George Quasha Subject: Preverbs posting on Rothenberg blog Poems & Poetics Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done for Themselves" on his blog poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brief intro to a 12 year project, now surfacing in an acceptable state. I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested might go to: http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. GQ George Quasha www.quasha.com www.baumgartnergallery.net www.stationhill.org ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:05:45 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jesse Glass Subject: Tom Clark, Annie Finch, Jack Foley--New E-chaps from Ahadada MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Announcing 3 New Free Ahadada E-chapbooks: Starlight and Shadow by Tom Clark; My Baby Fell Apart by Annie Finch and A Disordered City by Jack Foley--All available along with 31 other e-titles and "book-books" that you should buy at www.ahadadabooks.com Enjoy! Jess ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:32:58 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Ellis Subject: Re: A Feminist Perspective/Its Suppression: Iran, Israel & the Conspicuous Absence of Nuclear Debate In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A high-yield=2C low-fallout .01 megaton directed-discharge thermonuclear de= vice the size of a baseball is now being manufactured by an Israeli weapons= plant. Similar weapons the size of a gallon jug were being made here in t= he US in the early 1970s. Exactly what further technological advances have= been made? Word is out and about that such a weapon was used to vaporize = the core columns of the two WTC towers that came down on 9/11/2001. We sho= uld all be asking questions about both our military's and private contracto= r's store of weapons whose existence has yet to be broadcast to the populat= ion at large. Naturally what I just said about the Twin Towers sounds susp= iciously like a "conspiracy theory" because no one knows that such highly d= eveloped weapons even exist=2C and therefore have no option to believe that= such things could happen. But they do. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me =20 > Date: Sat=2C 3 Apr 2010 11:49:21 -0700 > From: david.chirot@GMAIL.COM > Subject: A Feminist Perspective/Its Suppression: Iran=2C Israel & the Con= spicuous Absence of Nuclear Debate > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > from Jewish Voice for Peace: >=20 >=20 > In an extensive=2C research-based 2009 position paper titled: On Nuclear > Weapons: A Feminist Perspective=2C Ednay Gorney and Hedva Eyal of the Ish= a > L'Isha Haifa Feminist Center wrote=2C "the Israeli public remains exclude= d > from the [nuclear] debate. The public does not ask questions=2C does not > demand that the state takes responsibility=2C nor does it demand to be > involved in decision making=3B it accepts and is content with the informa= tion > or=2C more accurately=2C with the lack of information." >=20 > This passive indifference to the nuclear weaponry widely believed to be i= n > the public's backyard is=2C in my view=2C a highly dangerous manifestatio= n of > Israel's longtime and entrenched militarization. As Gorney and Eyal have = put > it=2C "Decision-making in all areas related to security is characterized = by > secrecy and vagueness=2C excluding anyone who does not belong to the secu= rity > elite. =85 The secret functions both on the outside as well as on the ins= ide. > Denying information under the guise of maintaining secrecy is one of the > common ways through which elites maintain their status. =85 [While o]ne o= f the > ways they can attain legitimacy for their control and actions is to > continuously disseminate and instill fear =96 real and imaginary =96 amon= g the > citizens of Israel. This fear justifies and=2C in turn=2C foments militar= y power > and its use against any security threat=2C as defined by this elite group= ." >=20 > Meanwhile=2C Gorney and Eyal have noted=2C "We are flooded with informati= on on > the great threat Iran poses and on the necessity of military operations. = The > debate within the Israeli public discourse is almost devoid of the > possibility of solution through diplomatic means." >=20 > Outlining the severely undemocratic suppression of any public nuclear deb= ate > in Israel=2C the position paper lists a line of researchers=2C journalist= s=2C > politicians=2C activists and ex-security personnel who's critical voices = have > been stifled by the security establishment=2C using a broad range of tact= ics. > This in addition to the constant dissemination of fear underpinning > militarization in general and the unquestioning Israeli public acceptance= of > its governments' nuclear armament in particular. Thus=2C the risks of suc= h > armament to this public itself=2C as well as the entire area or even the > globe=2C go unexamined and undebated for decades on end. >=20 > Resisting this reality and reaching for an actual=2C participatory democr= acy=2C > Gorney and Eyal explain=2C "As feminists we wish to expose the connection= s > between the policy of opacity=2C concealment and fear=2C and the current > perception of security. We want to take responsibility for our lives and = for > actions carried out in our name." >=20 > In one of the rare public voices taking up these issues=2C the position p= aper > concludes: > "We demand the removal of opacity surrounding the issue of nuclear weapon= s > in Israel=3B We demand a public debate and the development of an alternat= ive > policy that will enable us to live in peace in the Middle East=3B We dema= nd > nuclear disarmament=3B We demand that the State of Israel join the > International Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons." >=20 > To read the full 22 page position paper=2C see: >=20 > http://www.isha.org.il/files/files/File/1325_reports/On_Nuclear_Weapons.p= df >=20 > ----------------------------------------- >=20 > Another such public voice=2C sounded now for many years=2C is that of nuc= lear > historian and analyst=2C Avner Cohen=2C whose work is one of main sources > repeatedly referred to by the Isha L'Isha position paper. Cohen is equall= y > critical of successive Israeli governments' successful barring of nuclear > debate and=2C in the recent op-ed forwarded in full below=2C offers a ser= ies of > serious arguments against what he views as the irresponsible and extremel= y > dangerous possibility that Israel might launch a military attack against > Iran in an attempt to quash its nuclear capacity. >=20 > Cohen's op-ed=2C converging in part with some of the conclusions presente= d by > the Isha L'Isha position paper=2C was published April 2nd in Haaretz. >=20 > Rela Mazali >=20 > ------------------------------------------ >=20 > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1160524.html >=20 > Fri.=2C April 02=2C 2010 >=20 > We look at Iran and see ourselves >=20 > By Avner Cohen >=20 > If Israel takes military action against Iran=2C it will be one of the big= gest > decisions in the history of the state. The risks involved will make it > unprecedented. >=20 > There is no comparison between such a decision and the ones that establis= hed > and implemented the so-called Begin doctrine: the decision by Menachem > Begin's government to attack the Osirak reactor in Iraq in 1981 and the > attack on the nuclear facility in Syria in 2007. In terms of both the > complexity of the military operation and the uncertainty about the > consequences and where they may lead=2C there is a qualitative difference > between the legacy of the past and the challenge of the present. >=20 > The seriousness of the challenge requires as open and thorough a public > discussion as possible. But unfortunately=2C such a discussion has been > virtually nonexistent=2C even on a basic conceptual level. Instead of a p= ublic > discussion there has been a belligerent press=2C which makes demagogic us= e of > statements that intensify the message of the politics of fear. These incl= ude > expressions such as "Iran is galloping toward a bomb" and a "second > Holocaust" that Israel must prevent. Such discourse creates a feeling tha= t > if Iran is not attacked=2C and soon=2C we have no choice but to accept a = nuclear > Iran. >=20 > It's doubtful whether the people making those statements are capable of > giving them a precise (technical and political) interpretation. It's > doubtful whether they have a suitable answer to the question: When should > Iran be considered a nuclear state? Where exactly is the red line? What i= s > the precise significance of such a line and what makes it red? >=20 > One thing is clear: As long as Iran is a member of the Nuclear > Non-Proliferation Treaty=2C it will not be able to test a nuclear device = or > declare that it has one. Also=2C as long as Iran is subject to the treaty= =2C it > will not be a nuclear state according to the accepted definition of such = a > state. >=20 > It's true that under cover of the treaty Iran can get very close to the > nuclear threshold and still claim - as it claims now - that it is not > deviating from its legal obligations under the treaty. Iran as a threshol= d > state can perhaps even position itself a few weeks away from a nuclear te= st. > Such an Iran=2C despite supervision by the International Atomic Energy Ag= ency=2C > will of necessity be opaque=3B there will always remain a fear that it is > working in secret=2C including making weapons in secret. But even in such= a > case=2C Iran would be considered a threshold state=2C not an actual nucle= ar > state. >=20 > Even those who disparage the practical limitations of the Nuclear > Non-Proliferation Treaty (as Israelis tend to do) must recognize that it = is > almost impossible for Iran to be a nuclear state in the full sense withou= t > withdrawing from the treaty. And even if it is outside the treaty=2C it w= ill > take Iran years=2C many years=2C to make the transition from a threshold = state > to a mature nuclear state. Such a transition is not trivial=3B certainly = it is > not inevitable=2C even if we look at the experience of states that in the= past > were considered threshold states and were not bound by the treaty's > restrictions. >=20 > For example=2C India=2C which carried out a nuclear test in 1998=2C is st= ill > making this transition slowly=2C and many experts say it should still not= be > considered a mature nuclear state. Even Pakistan=2C whose nuclear path wa= s > faster and more purposeful than India's=2C needed about a generation to b= ecome > a nuclear state to all extents and purposes. In its nuclear behavior Iran= is > more like India than Pakistan. >=20 > It's ironic that an Iran under attack would probably become more determin= ed > and purposeful in its nuclear ambitions. After an attack=2C Iran would ab= andon > the treaty in protest=2C declare its right to nuclear arms and almost > certainly succeed in implementing it. >=20 > The public discussion in Israel about a nuclear Iran is simplistic=2C > inadequate=2C confused and confusing. It reflects to some degree our own > biases. We come from a culture of national security in which nuclear opac= ity > has been exploited to the hilt to create a specific model of deterrence. = The > result is that when we look at Iran we see ourselves: how we would behave= in > a similar situation. But Iran is not Israel exactly=2C and the Israeli > experience does not necessarily reflect Iran's behavior. On the contrary= =2C it > leads to systematic errors when making assessments. >=20 > The writer is the author of the book "Israel and the Bomb." His forthcomi= ng > book=2C "The Worst-Kept Secret=2C" will be published in the United States= in > September. >=20 >=20 > ................................................................ > -------- > Jewish Peace News editors: > Joel Beinin > Racheli Gai > Rela Mazali > Sarah Anne Minkin > Judith Norman > Lincoln Z. Shlensky > Rebecca Vilkomerson > Alistair Welchman > ------------ > Jewish Peace News archive and blog: http://jewishpeacenews.blogspot.com > ------------ > Jewish Peace News sends its news clippings only to subscribers. To > subscribe=2C unsubscribe=2C or manage your subscription=2C go to > http://www.jewishpeacenews.net >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:40:17 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: WILLA's Website Has Launched! In-Reply-To: <75121.92594.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable congratulations on this important resource! On 4/2/10 7:12 AM, "amy king" wrote: > WILLA is live -- please check out our features (including my work on "The > Count"), tell your friends, forward widely, and stay tuned! >=20 > Best, >=20 > Amy > http://willaweb.org/ >=20 > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Cate Marvin Dear Friends, You may or may not recall that eight mon= ths > ago I sent out an email about the need for an organization for women writ= ers > of literature. The response was a bit overwhelming. As, it soon became c= lear, > is the need. Since that time, my Co-Director Erin Belieu and I have pulle= d > together a simply amazing group of women writers to help us pull off the > creation of our new organization: WILLA (Women in Letters & Literary Arts= ). I > can=B9t begin to tell you all of time and thought that has gone into this! = It > was truly, apologies for the clich=E9, a labor of love. This is to say: we > launched our website today. Please check WILLA out at: http://willaweb.or= g > With happiness, Cate -- > Cate Marvin, Associate Professor > Department of English > College of Staten Island, CUNY Co-Director, WILLA (Women in Letters and > Literary Arts) www.willaweb.org >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:00:16 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jonathan Penton Subject: Print Submissions and the AWP Reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes, it's true! I thought you might be wondering if it isn't true, but it is true! I know sometimes people put vague headlines that aren't true, like, "You won a million dollars," or, "I care about your feelings," but this one is true! Unlikely Stories will be reading off-site at the AWP Conference in Denver, with Ahadada Books! Check us out: *Saturday*, April 10, 2010 *7:00pm - 11:00pm Michelangelo's Wine and Coffee Bar 1 Broadway Suite B* Denver, Colorado Where you'll hear readings by Janée J. Baugher, Wendy Taylor Carlisle, Amy Catanzano, León De la Rosa, Adam Halbur, Judy Halebsky, Michael Harold, Deb Hoag, Anne McMillen, Jared Schickling, Judith Skillman, Jeffrey Spahr-Summers, Donna Snyder, Dayana Stetco, Violetta Tarpinian, Donald Wellman, Lawrence Welsh and Joe Zanghi! That's funky, avant-garde and transgressive literature by eighteen writers from Japan, Germany, Mexico, and the U.S.! And because we're all way too busy to have dealt with it properly, submissions for /Unlikely Stories of the Third Kind/ have been *extended to April 30th*! That's like May Day, except as an American I don't know what May Day is! So head over to http://www.unlikelystories.org/printsubmissions.shtml and catch your only chance to be in a physical, multimedia edition of /Unlikely Stories/ for a long, long, long time! "I promise to be polite in all rejections," -- Jonathan Penton http://www.unlikelystories.org/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:55:23 -0700 Reply-To: delraycross@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Del Ray Cross Subject: SHAMPOO 37 Comments: To: delraycross@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Those more frequent bathers may have already noticed = Dear All,=0A =0A Those more frequent bathers may have already noticed=0A= a particularly robust new shampoo on the shelves.=C2=A0=0AIt's SHAMPOO issu= e 37, which can be found here--=0A =0A http://www.shampoopoetry.com/=0A =0A= --and has the following magical ingredients: Sharon=0AZetter, Cyril Wong, = Sarah Wetzel, Ellen Welcker, Ashley=0AVanDoorn, Thomas Trudgeon, Joseph Tor= ra, Shelly Taylor,=0AMichael Thomas Taren, Mathias Svalina, Tamara M. Soban= ,=0AMike Smith, Amy Silbergard, Daniel M. Shapiro, Tomaz=0ASalamun, Matthew= Rotando, Ryan B. Richey, Sam Rasnake,=0AJessy Randall, Doug Ramspeck, Eddi= e Paterson, Seth=0AOelbaum, Brane Mozetic, Anna Morrison, David M. Morini,= =0AT.J. Meneely, John McKernan, Jennifer Manzano, Steven=0AManuel, Joseph M= ains, Diana Magallon, Chris Lin, Cassie=0ALewis-Getman, Chandler Lewis, Dav= id Dodd Lee, Margaret=0AKonkol, Larry Kearney, Vincent Katz, Thomas Kane,= =0ACrow Jane, Uyen Hua, Colin Herd, KJ Hays, Rachel Gruskin,=0AJoseph Goose= y, Michael Farrell, Steffi Drewes, Shira=0ADentz, J. P. Dancing Bear, Jeff = Crouch, Lindsay Coleman,=0AKate Colby, Sharmila Cohen, Julia Cohen, Sarah C= avallaro,=0ASten Carlson, Stephen Carey, Craig Cady, Louis Bury,=0AMaurice = Burford, Eric J. Brinovec, Brian Dean Bollman,=0ALisa Beskin, Luis Cuauhtem= oc Berriozabal, Christopher=0ABarnes, Ed Baker, Joe Atkins, Shawn Arrajj, R= achel=0AAndelman, Jeff Alessandrelli, Michael Aird, Liz Afton,=0Aand tattoo= -worthy SHAMPOOArt by Otto Chan.=0A =0A Next up, our ten year anniversary i= ssue!=0A =0A =0A Stay tuned,=0A =0A Del Ray Cross, Editor=0A SHAMPOO=0A cle= an hair / good poetry=0A www.ShampooPoetry.com=0A =0A =0A =0A (if you'd pre= fer not to receive these notices, please=0Alet me know)=0A =0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:32:11 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: + New Coldfront Interview Comments: To: "Discussion of Women\\'s Poetry List" , "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A Thanks, Ruth! And here's a just-published interview with Marvin and Be= lieu:=0A=0Ahttp://coldfrontmag.com/features/spotlight-erin-belieu-cate-marv= in=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AWILLA GOES LIVE=0A=0AThe much anticipated website for Will= a (Women in letters & literary arts) launched this week. It can be found at= http://willaweb.org .=0A=0AWilla=E2=80=99s website offers new content mont= hly, written by both established and emerging women writers. The feature es= says include =E2=80=9CState of the Art,=E2=80=9D in which an author address= es issues particular to the concerns of her specific genre; =E2=80=9CDeal W= ith it,=E2=80=9D where a featured essayist offers her candid take on the mo= re practical concerns of being a female writer in a male-dominated literary= world; and =E2=80=9CThe Count,=E2=80=9D where Willa=E2=80=99s Amy King gat= hers the hard numbers to examine rates of publication, award recognition an= d other factors that affect women writers both artistically and financially= within the national literary community.=0A=0AAnother feature, coming next = month, is =E2=80=9CFor the record,=E2=80=9D where editors, agents and publi= shers are interviewed and asked to provide their candid opinion on the cont= emporary landscape for women=E2=80=99s writing in the United States.=0A=0AT= he present issue features novelist A.J. Verdelle on the subject of literary= recognition and the work of chimamanda adiche and Willa co-founder, the po= et Cate Marvin, exploring the issue of =E2=80=9Cterrible mother poems=E2=80= =9D and how new mothers are treated by the literary establishment.=0A=0AWil= la was founded in August 2009 to explore critical and cultural perceptions = of writing by women through meaningful conversation and the exchange of ide= as among existing and emerging literary communities.=0A=0APlease forward - = thank you!=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:14:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Maria Damon | mIEKAL aND reading in Madison on Thursday April 8 Comments: To: spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, dreamtime@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Thursday, April 8 at 7 pm: Poetry reading by longtime DIY cultural anarchist & creator of an infoplex worth of visual-verbal literature, mIEKAL aND, along with poet & teacher Maria Damon, author of "The Dark End of the Street: Margins in American Vanguard Poetry" and the forthcoming "Bagel Shop Jazz: Selected Essays for a Post-literary America." Selected Xexoxial Editions titles will be on display. "This is the days of year when events happen far too quickly. & now is the day of days we leap across." Avol's Bookstore 315 West Gorham St. Madison, WI 53703 USA (608) 255-4730 avols@chorus.net http://www.avolsbooks.com/ Avol's lists fine books for sale at: Abebooks.com, Alibris.com, and Barnes&Noble.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:07:39 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jesse Glass Subject: Just to Claify--Mark DuCharme Will Be Reading With Us at the Ahadada/Unlikely Stories Offsite Event MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Check us out: *Saturday*, April 10, 2010 *7:00pm - 11:00pm Michelangelo's Wine and Coffee Bar 1 Broadway Suite B* Denver, Colorado Where you'll hear readings by Mark Ducharme, Janée J. Baugher, Wendy Taylor Carlisle,Amy Catanzano, León De la Rosa, Adam Halbur, Judy Halebsky, Michael Harold, Deb Hoag, Anne McMillen, Jared Schickling, Judith Skillman, Jeffrey Spahr-Summers, Donna Snyder, Dayana Stetco, Violetta Tarpinian, Donald Wellman, Lawrence Welsh and Joe Zanghi! That's funky, avant-garde and transgressive literature by eighteen writers from Japan, Germany, Mexico, and the U.S.! Mark is with us, hand honored to have him! Jess ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:38:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Michelle Taransky Subject: 3/8 reading & book party for Charles Bernstein: ALL THE WHISKEY IN HEAVEN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The Kelly Writers House presents: a poetry reading and book party with CHARLES BERNSTEIN & friends celebrating the release of ALL THE WHISKEY IN HEAVEN http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/all-the-whiskey/ Thursday, April 8th, at 6:00 PM (EST) in the Arts Caf=C3=A9 Kelly Writers House | 3805 Locust Walk No registration required - this event is free & open to the public Not in Philadelphia? Tune in to our live webcast via KWH-TV:=20 http://writing.upenn.edu/wh/multimedia/tv/ ________________________________________________________________________ CHARLES BERNSTEIN has published three collections of essays =E2=80=93 MY = WAY: SPEECHES AND POEMS (1999, Chicago), A POETICS (1992, Harvard), and CINTEN= T=E2=80=99S DREAM: ESSAYS 1975-1984 (1985, Sun & Moon; rpt 2001, Northwestern). H= e is the author of over twenty collections of poetry, including ALL THE WHISKE= Y IN HEAVEN: SELECTED POEMS (2010, Farrar, Straus, and Giroux), GIRLY MAN (2006, Chicago), WITH STRINGS (2001, Chicago), REPUBLICS OF REALITY: 1975= - 1995 (2000, Sun & Moon), DARK CITY (1994, Sun & Moon), THE SOPHIS= T (1987, Sun & Moon; rpt 2004, Salt), ISLETS/IRRITATIONS (1983, Jordan Davies;= rpt. 1992, Roof); and CONTROLLING INTERESTS (1980, Roof). Charles is executive= editor of the Electronic Poetry Center and co-director of PennSound, and teaches poetics at Penn.=20 ________________________________________________________________________ Michelle Taransky Kelly Writers House 3805 Locust Walk Philadelphia PA 19104 215-746-POEM http://writing.upenn.edu/~wh/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:18:55 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: 'Cyclones in High Northern Latitudes' Comments: To: British Poetics , Poetryetc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jake Berry and I have collaborated on a poem called =E2=80=98Cyclones in Hi= gh Northern Latitudes=E2=80=99. It=E2=80=99s available in book form from La= vender Ink: http://lavenderink.org/cyclone/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:07:31 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit */Sunday April 11^th , 5-7/ */Poetry Readings from 5-7 pm in Tribes Reading Room/* /Poets* *Fay Chiang, Cynthia Kraman and Janet Hamill. / 285 e 3rd st (c and d) music by jason whang william parker etc ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:43:05 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: White Swallow Reading Series! -- McClure, Guez, Kronovet, and King Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A very special Ladies' Night at The White Swallow, featuring Monica McClure= , Julia Guez, Jennifer Kronovet, and Amy King. =0A=0A=0ATuesday, April 6, 2= 010 - 6:00pm - 8:00pm=0ACornelia Street Cafe (downstairs)=0A29 Cornelia S= t. New York, NY=0A=0A=0A=0AMonica McClure is currently pursuing her MFA at= New York University. Her debut book of poetry, Now I=E2=80=99ve Got the Pi= ll, will be out by Low Hanging Branch Press (2011). =0A=0AJulia Guez, after= five years of service with Teach For America, is now living in New York, p= ursuing a Masters in Fine Arts at Columbia and working part-time at The Aca= demy of American Poets. At work on a first full-length collection of poetry= , she has received a Harvey Fellowship and Dorothy Sargent Rosenberg Poetry= Prize. New verse is soon to appear in Western Humanities Review, Inscape, = The Blue Fifth and Basilica Review. =0A=0AJennifer Kronovet is the author o= f the poetry collection Awayward (BOA Editions) and the co-founder and co-e= ditor of Circumference: Poetry in Translation. Beginning in the fall, she w= ill be writer-in-residence at Washington University in St. Louis.=0A=0AAmy = King=E2=80=99s most recent books are Slaves to Do These Things (Blazevox) a= nd, forthcoming, I Want to Make You Safe (Litmus Press). She edits the Poet= ics List (SUNY-Buffalo/University of Pennsylvania), moderates the Women=E2= =80=99s Poetry Listserv (WOMPO), and teaches English and Creative Writing a= t SUNY Nassau Community College. King also co-curates the Brooklyn-based re= ading series, The Stain of Poetry. For more information, please visit http:= //amyking.org.=0A=0Ahttp://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D109628102394253= &ref=3Dmf _______=0A=0A=0AAMY'S ALIAS=0A=0Ahttp://amyking.org=0A=0A=0A = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:30:10 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nicholas Piombino Subject: New from Green Integer--Contradicta by Nick Piombino, iillustrated by Toni Simon In-Reply-To: <014f01cad2d9$cfe72a50$4001a8c0@housepress> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Book Launch & Signing Sunday April 25, 2010 6:30pm Zinc Bar 82 W. 3rd St, New York, NY Contradicta: Aphorisms By Nick Piombino with illustrations by Toni Simon Green Integer Press Available from SPD http://www.spdbooks.org/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=Contradicta St. Marks Bookshop (NYC) Unnameable Books (Brooklyn) and If Not Metamorphic Brenda Iijima Ahsahta Press Music and projection by Pattern Diver (aka Mike Burakoff) of the band Keepaway Pitchfork magazine's "Best Music 2009" ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:31:52 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Noah Eli Gordon Subject: Counterpath Press & Letter Machine Editions AWP reading Comments: To: subpo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Counterpath Press & Letter Machine Editions =20 This Friday 6-10pm @ Mercury Caf=E9 2199 California Street Denver=2C CO =20 full dinner menu and bar (Jungle Room: take a left when you enter) =20 AARON KUNIN BARBARA CLAIRE FREEMAN BRENDA HILLMAN COLE SWENSEN FARID MATUK FORREST GANDER GILLIAN CONOLEY JULIANA LESLIE LAYNIE BROWNE MARTHA RONK PAUL HOOVER PETER GIZZI STEPHEN RATCLIFFE TRAVIS NICHOLS =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb= ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:44:45 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Laura Hinton Subject: Re: WILLA's Website Has Launched! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wonderful site! I look forward to more. Thanks, Amy. On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Ruth Lepson wrote: > congratulations on this important resource! > > > On 4/2/10 7:12 AM, "amy king" wrote: > > > WILLA is live -- please check out our features (including my work on "T= he > > Count"), tell your friends, forward widely, and stay tuned! > > > > Best, > > > > Amy > > http://willaweb.org/ > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: Cate Marvin Dear Friends, You may or may not recall that eight > months > > ago I sent out an email about the need for an organization for women > writers > > of literature. The response was a bit overwhelming. As, it soon became > clear, > > is the need. Since that time, my Co-Director Erin Belieu and I have > pulled > > together a simply amazing group of women writers to help us pull off th= e > > creation of our new organization: WILLA (Women in Letters & Literary > Arts). I > > can=B9t begin to tell you all of time and thought that has gone into th= is! > It > > was truly, apologies for the clich=E9, a labor of love. This is to say:= we > > launched our website today. Please check WILLA out at: > http://willaweb.org > > With happiness, Cate -- > > Cate Marvin, Associate Professor > > Department of English > > College of Staten Island, CUNY Co-Director, WILLA (Women in Letters and > > Literary Arts) www.willaweb.org > > > > > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & > > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > --=20 Laura Hinton Professor of English City College of New York 138 at Convent Ave. New York, New York 10031 http://www.mermaidtenementpress.com http://www.chantdelasirene.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:57:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ana_Bo=BEi=E8evi=E6?= Subject: Announcing The Annual Chapbook Festival, May 3 and 4 in NYC Comments: To: dusie-kollektiv@googlegroups.com, pussipo@googlegroups.com Comments: cc: spd@spdbooks.org, shanna@shannacompton.com, achiotepress@gmail.com, michaelthomascross@hotmail.com, biggamebooks@gmail.com, a.brady@qmul.ac.uk, submit@beardofbees.com, editor@beardofbees.com, info@blackwidowpress.com, editor@blazevox.org, info@bloofbooks.com, pganickz@gmail.com, staff@booklyn.org, bootstrapproductions@gmail.com, info@burndenverdown.net, krwaldrop@earthlink.net, info@centerforbookarts.org, submit@coconutpoetry.org, editor@crackedslabbooks.com, zbarocas@gmail.com, kyleschlesinger@gmail.com, mark_lamoureux@yahoo.com, dancinggirlpress@yahoo.com, cm49600@gmail.com, jshiroma@durationpress.com, effingpress@gmail.com, info@eviltwinpublications.com, submit@futuretensebooks.com, GreyingGhost@gmail.com, kristen@handwritten.org, robert@h-ngm-n.com, femmeferal@gmail.com, friedman@gorge.net, acloudintrousers@yahoo.com, jen.tynes@gmail.com, michaelkoshkin@gmail.com, housepress@gmail.com, insertpress@gmail.com, editor@interbirthbooks.org, steve.mueske@gmail.com, tougherdisguises@gmail.com, info@uglyducklingpresse.org, vacteampoetry@earthlink.net, info@wednesdaypress.ca, mori0181@umn.edu, info@xpressed.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *PUBLISHERS, FREE SPACE IS STILL AVAILABLE! See below for details.* *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE* ANNUAL CHAPBOOK FESTIVAL * * *Monday May 3 &Tuesday May 4, 2010* ** * The Annual Chapbook Festival* celebrates the chapbook as a work of art and as a medium for alternative and emerging writers and publishers. Now in its second year, the festival features a two-day bookfair with chapbook publishers from around the country, workshops, marathon poetry readings, and a closing-night reading of prize-winning Chapbook Fellows. Workshops will include: *Producing Chapbooks: A Workshop for Poets*, *Producing Chapbooks: A Workshop for Publishers*, *Do-It-Yourself Chapbooks: Make and Distribute Your Own*, and *Chapbooks as Art Objects*. ** For more information, schedule, and a list of participating publishers, please visit http://www.chapbookfestival.org. * PUBLISHERS: FREE SPACE IS STILL AVAILABLE IN THE BOOKFAIR. PLEASE CONTACT ABOZICEVIC@GC.CUNY.EDU FOR A TABLE!* *Co-sponsored by The Office of Academic Affairs, The Center for the Humanities, The Graduate Center and MFA Programs in Creative Writing of the City University of New York, The Center for Book Arts, Poets House, Poetry Society of America, and Poets & Writers* ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 05:39:46 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tim Peterson Subject: Tendencies 4/9: Bellamy, Killian, and Myles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 TENDENCIES: Poetics & Practice Dodie Bellamy, Kevin Killian, and Eileen Myles This series of talks by major poets, titled in honor of Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, explores the relationship between contemporary poetic manifesto, practice, queer theory and pedagogy. The next event features talks by: Dodie Bellamy Kevin Killian Eileen Myles ...followed by a discussion/Q&A session. on Friday, April 9 at 6:30 PM FREE at CUNY Graduate Center (in the Martin E. Segal Theater) 365 Fifth Avenue, NYC Dodie Bellamy's chapbook Barf Manifesto was named best book of 2009 under 30 pages by Time Out New York. Other books include Academonia, Pink Steam and The Letters of Mina Harker. Her book Cunt-Ups won the 2002 Firecracker Alternative Book Award for poetry. She teaches creative writing in various grad programs in San Francisco and Los Angeles. Kevin Killian has written two novels, Shy (1989) and Arctic Summer (1997), a book of memoirs, Bedrooms Have Windows (1990), two books of stories, Little Men (1996) and I Cry Like a Baby (2001) and two books of poetry, Argento Series (2001), and Action Kylie (2008). With Lew Ellingham, Killian has written often on the life and work of the American poet Jack Spicer [1925-65] and with Peter Gizzi has edited My Vocabulary Did This To Me: The Collected Poetry of Jack Spicer (2008) for Wesleyan University Press. For the San Francisco Poets Theater Killian has written thirty plays, including Stone Marmalade (1996, with Leslie Scalapino), The American Objectivists (2001, with Brian Kim Stefans), and Often (also 2001, with Barbara Guest). New projects include Screen Tests, an edition of Killian's film writing, and Impossible Princess, a new fiction collection brand new from City Lights Books. A new novel Spreadeagle will appear in the spring. Eileen Myles is a poet who lives in New York. Her collection of essays The Importance of Being Iceland (Semiotext(e)/MIT) received an Warhol Creative Capital art writing grant. This semester she's the Hugo Writer at U. of Montana, Missoula. The Inferno (a poet's novel) will be out in fall 2010 from O/R books. She reads and performs her work widely - her last book of poems was Sorry, Tree, (Wave Books) 2007. She just won the Shelley Memorial Prize from the PSA. * * * TENDENCIES: Poetics & Practice is curated by Tim Peterson (Trace). For additional information, visit the Tendencies blog. All events are co-sponsored by the Center for the Humanities, CLAGS (the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies), The Graduate Center PhD Program in English, and the GC Poetics Group. Upcoming TENDENCIES: Poetics & Practice events this spring: Jack Kimball, CA Conrad, and Stacy Szymaszek on Thursday, May 6 at 6:30 PM in the Skylight Room (9100) at CUNY Graduate Center ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:29:53 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: "Century XX after Four Quartets" by Adam Fieled at The Argotist Online Comments: To: British Poetics , Poetryetc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Century XX after Four Quartets" by Adam Fieled at The Argotist Online http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Fieled%20essay%202.htm Excepts: "What do we see around us in 2010? It is a poetry world stumbling for direc= tion, still largely lost in the theoretical wilderness of post-modernism...= "=20 "I do not believe that much English language poetry composed after 1943, th= e year that Eliot=E2=80=99s Four Quartets were released, deserves the title= of high art. Before I explain why the twentieth century, post Four Quartet= s, was mostly a washout for English language poetry, let me explain what di= stinctions I believe subsist between high and low art. " "Low art impulses often maintain a stance that technical competence is unne= cessary, that breadth of vision is too ambitious, that narrative solidity i= s a remnant of the nineteenth century...and that =E2=80=9Cseriousness=E2=80= =9D is an outdated and outmoded concern. " "... Eliot=E2=80=99s language is taut, sinewy, disciplined, and rich [and] = makes the whole of Four Quartets ring as a solid, major work of high litera= ry art. If another such work exists that was released between 1943 and 2000= , I haven=E2=80=99t seen it." "The Objectivists, the Beats, the New York School (first and second generat= ion), the Confessional poets=E2=80=94what do these poets lack, so that the = appellation high art does not affix to their work ..." "...Objectivists, the Beats, and the New York School poets, fall squarely u= nder the rubric that covers minor poetry and poets, when placed next to the= scope and achievements of Eliot and Yeats." =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:12:02 +0000 Reply-To: Troy Camplin Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Troy Camplin Subject: Re: NYT Book Review: Next Big Thing in English: uSING m.r.i.'S & Evolution to Explore Reading of Fiction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is great news for those of us already doing this. Maybe it being in th= e NYT will get English departments to take this approach seriously. Troy Camplin, Ph.D. ---------- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email ------Original Message------ From: David-Baptiste Chirot To: Date: Friday, April 2, 2010 7:58:57 PM GMT-0500 Subject: NYT Book Review: Next Big Thing in English: uSING m.r.i.'S & Evolu= tion to Explore Reading of Fiction Book News =20 =20 =20 Next Big Thing in English: Knowing They Know That You Know =20 =20 By PATRICIA COHEN=20 =20 Some scholars are turning to M.R.I.'s and evolutionary theory to explore h= ow and why people read fiction.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/books/01li= t.html?nl=3Dbooks&emc=3Dbooksupdateemb5 =09=09 =09 =09=09 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:17:59 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Obododimma Oha Subject: A Plato of Crayfish Comments: To: USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com, ederi , elsalites@yahoogroups.com, otu_umunna@yahoogroups.com, "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &, Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A "Plato" of crayfish may after all be the smallest of all market wraps of knowledge. Read full text of "A Plato of Crayfish" at: http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Opinion/5550548-148/shibboleth__a_plato_of_crayfish.csp -- Obododimma Oha http://udude.wordpress.com/ Dept. of English University of Ibadan Nigeria & Fellow, Centre for Peace & Conflict Studies University of Ibadan Phone: +234 803 333 1330; +234 805 350 6604; +234 808 264 8060. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:47:44 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Michael Heller Subject: POETRY READING, Saturday April 10th at 2 PM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed ILYA BERNSTEIN, JON CURLEY, MICHAEL HELLER and SAMUEL MENASHE will be reading at THE NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY at 112 East 96th Street at 2 PM, April 10th Beckmann Variations & other poems (Shearsman, 2010), Eschaton (new poems) (Talisman House Publishers, 2009), Two Novellas: Marble Snows & The Study (ahadada press, 2009) are all available from their publishers, at good bookstores and from SPD and amazon.com. Speaking The Estranged: Essays on the Work of George Oppen (Salt, 2008); Uncertain Poetries: Essays on Poets, Poetry and Poetics (Salt, 2005) and Exigent Futures: New and Selected Poems (Salt, 2003) are available from www.saltpublishing.com, amazon.com and good bookstores. Survey of work at http://www.thing.net/~grist/ld/heller.htm Collaborations with the composer Ellen Fishman Johnson at http://www.efjcomposer.com/EFJ/Collaborations.html Recordings at http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Heller.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:00:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants to se= e how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar patches one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This was the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question the movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this work, Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Verit= =E9 works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophical or moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw humanit= y nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving out of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical, stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, of their children. Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost opposites -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did not believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believed truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the same scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its totality, to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategies to achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had not shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did not know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state of panic- for that purpose. The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the Gen= a Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed by the reality of her situation. Ciao, Murat On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha wrot= e: > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done for > Themselves" on his blog > > poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ > > including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brief > intro to a 12 year project, > now surfacing in an acceptable state. > > I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested might > go to: > > http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems > > Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. > > GQ > > George Quasha > www.quasha.com > www.baumgartnergallery.net > www.stationhill.org > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:38:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: William Slaughter Subject: Notice: Mudlark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed New and On View: Mudlark Poster No. 87 (2010) Some Father's Heart Five Poems by Megan Williams Megan Williams is currently an MFA candidate at Sarah Lawrence College, where she serves as a poetry editor of LUMINA. With her writing group, she co-curates the from here to the corner reading series at the 25CPW gallery in Manhattan. Recent poems can be found in Ducts and are forthcoming in Tin House. Spread the word. Far and wide, William Slaughter MUDLARK An Electronic Journal of Poetry & Poetics Never in and never out of print... E-mail: mudlark@unf.edu URL: http://www.unf.edu/mudlark ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:34:11 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Eleni Stecopoulos Subject: Closing Event for Belladonna's Year of New Releases In-Reply-To: <9fcfe7f47a552d832194d42aef10d745.27410@e2ma.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 If you're having trouble viewing this email=2C you may see it online. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Closing Event!=20 Belladonna's Year of New Releases Come join us for a reading and celebration of four great poets and their n= ew work! We will be toasting:=20 Brenda Iijima (revv. you=92ll=97ution=2C Displaced Press=3B If Not Metamor= phic=2C Ahsahta Press=3B eco language reader=2C Nightboat Books)=20 Dorothea Lasky (Black Life=2C Wave Books) Eleni Stecopoulos (Armies of Compassion=2C Palm Press) and David Wolach=2C (Occultations=2C Black Radish Books) Tuesday=2C April 13=2C 2010 @ 7:30 pm =20 Dixon Place 161 Christie Street=3B New York=20 $6.00 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Brenda Iijima=92s recent titles include revv. you=92ll=97ution (Displaced P= ress) and If Not Metamorphic (Ahsahta Press). She is the editor of the eco = language reader (Nightboat Books and PPAYYL)=97a collection of essays by po= ets responding to environmental issues. At present=2C she is writing an in= formal encyclopedia on animals used as surrogates by humans=97the snake and= the mouse are recent entries. As well she is researching the women who we= re murdered in her hometown of North Adams=2C Massachusetts and choreograph= ing site specific dances that relate to these crimes. She runs Portable Pre= ss at Yo-Yo Labs ( http://e2ma.net/go/8121209696/2679498/92899800/27410/got= o:http://yoyolabs.com ) from Prospect Heights=2C Brooklyn. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Dorothea Lasky is the author of two full-length collections of poetry= : Black Life (Wave Books=2C 2010) and AWE (Wave Books=2C 2007). She is also= the author of Poetry is Not A Project (Ugly Duckling Presse=2C 2010) and s= everal chapbooks. Born in St. Louis in 1978=2C her poems have appeared in T= he New Yorker=2C The Paris Review=2C Boston Review=2C American Poetry Revie= w=2C The Laurel Review=2C and Columbia Poetry Review=2C among other places.= She is a graduate of the MFA program for Poets and Writers at the Universi= ty of Massachusetts-Amherst and also has been educated at Harvard Universit= y and Washington University. Currently=2C she lives in New York City and re= searches creativity and education at the University of Pennsylvania. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Eleni Stecopoulos was born on Fort Washington Avenue=2C raised on the Upper= West Side and on Long Island=2C and now lives in Berkeley=2C CA. Armies of= Compassion is her first full-length collection. She has published a chapbo= ok=2C Autoimmunity (Taxt=2C 2006)=2C and poems and essays in publications i= ncluding Chain=2C Ecopoetics=2C Xcp: Cross Cultural Poetics=2C The Capilano= Review=2C the SFMOMA blog=2C and NO GENDER: Reflections on the Life & Work= of kari edwards. In 2008 she received a grant from the Creative Work Fund = to curate a program series around art=2C healing=2C and somatic practice fo= r the San Francisco State University Poetry Center=2C and write a related b= ook. She is at work as well on a book-length poem=2C "Earth Also is a Priva= te Language=2C" which deals with things like rift zones and dream incubatio= n and the history of her grandfather=92s hometown on the island of Euboea= =2C renowned since antiquity for curative springs once associated with cult= s of Apollo and Heracles. She teaches in the Language and Thinking program = at Bard College and sometimes co-directs the Paros Translation Symposium in= Greece. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 David Wolach is founding editor of Wheelhouse Magazine & Press=2C & curator= of the series devoted to the intersection of experiments in texts & radica= l politics=2C PRESS. Wolach=92s most recent books are Occultations (Black R= adish Books=2C forth. 2010)=2C Prefab Eulogies Vol 1: Nothings Houses (Blaz= eVox=2C forth. 2010)=2C Hospitalogy (Scantily Clad Press=2C forth. 2010) an= d book alter(ed) (Ungovernable Press=2C 2009). His work has most recently a= ppeared in or is forthcoming from 5_Trope=2C Aufgabe=2C Jacket=2C No Tell M= otel=2C & Little Red Leaves. Often making use of multiple media and site-sp= ecific=2C Wolach's work has been commissioned for performance at such venue= s as The American Cybernetics Conference 2009=2C The EconVergence Conferenc= e 2009=2C and Tacoma Contemporary Series. Wolach is professor of text arts= =2C & poetics The Evergreen State College & visiting professor in Bard Coll= ege=92s Workshop In Language & Thinking. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Belladonna Books | 925 Bergen Street=2C Suite 405 | Brook= lyn=2C NY 11238 | www.belladonnaseries.org =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 This email was sent to elleniste@hotmail.com. =20 To ensure that you continue receiving our emails=2C please add us to yo= ur address book or safe list. =20 =20 manage your preferences | opt out using TrueRemove=AE. Got this as a forward? Sign up to receive our future emails. =20 =20 =20 =20 powered by =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:02:44 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: April 10: Cracked Slab Books, U of Tulsa & Midwest Friends in Denver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cracked Slab Books, University of Tulsa & Midwest Friends Saturday, April 10th @ 8pm at Mercury Cafe 2199 California Street Denver, Colorado http://mercurycafe.com readings by: Sheila Black Maxine Chernoff Sloan Davis Paul Hoover Grant Jenkins Jennifer Karmin Shin Yu Pai Cheryl Pallant Michelle Taransky Hugh Tribbey Tony Trigilio ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:59:06 -0400 Reply-To: sanjdoller@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: sandra de 1913 Subject: 1913's AWP news that stays news... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable News from 1913, as we head off Denver-way... *We'll be celebrating the launch of *1913 a journal of forms' Issue 4* at AWP in Denver this week... Please stop by our table in the Book Room (*Exhi= bit Hall A, Table L10)* to say hola & ogle the new. *Join 1913 Press for *Author Signings* at our AWP table: *Thursday 4/8 @ 1-2pm John Keene "Seismosis"* *Thursday 4/8 @ 2-3pm Shin Yu Pai "Sightings"* *We'll have copies of *Issue 4* & books from 1913 Press including: "*Read*" the translation anthology from the Tamaas seminars in Paris, "*Seismosis*" by Christopher Stackhouse & John Keene, "*Sightings*" by Shin Yu Pai...and the NEWEST member of the 1913 family, "*Ozalid*" by Biswamit Diwbedy. *1913 & Fence are co-hosting an off-site *Salon on Saturday April 10 at Mario's Double Daughter's Salotto, from 5-7pm*. Please join us for happy hour drinks & deals, & cabaret collaborations. This is not your father's reading. 1632 Market Street, Denver. http://www.doubledaughters.com/ All best things de 1913, Sandra. --=20 l'editrice de 1913, Sandra Doller (n=E9e Miller) http://ahsahtapress.boisestate.edu/books/sdoller/sdoller.htm * NEW! from 1913: 1913 a journal of forms, Issue 4 "Ozalid" by Biswamit Dwibedy "READ" 1913's annual translation anthology from the Tamaas seminars in Pari= s http://www.journal1913.org * Please join 1913 for its off-site Salon & Issue 4 launch, co-hosted with Fence at this year's AWP in Denver: http://www.awpwriter.org/conference/2010offsite.php#saturday * Forthcoming from 1913: "Hg-the liquid" by Ward Tietz Two collaborations by Mendi+Keith Obadike "Home/Birth: A Poemic" by Arielle Greenberg & Rachel Zucker "Wonderbender" by Diane Wald http://www.1913press.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:25:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: William Allegrezza Subject: Series A Reading in Chicago Wednesday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please come to the Series A reading in Chicago on Wed. April 7, 7:00-8:00 p.m. Dana Ward John Coletti Jess Mynes At the Hyde Park Art Center, 5020 S. Cornell. Easy parking. Access to public transportation. Byob. Note: We actually start at 7 and end at 8. For more info, conact Bill Allegrezza at wallegrezza@gmail.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:16:44 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jerome Rothenberg Subject: on the road -- again Comments: To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@buffalo.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 On the 12th of April, Diane Rothenberg and I are heading off again, this = time for a cross country drive and the whole month of May in New York = City. During a part of that time there will, as usual, be some poetry = readings and similar events, which I'm listing in the following = itinerary, for any of you who may be interested and able to catch up = with any of them. =20 April 12, leaving San Diego and driving to Las Vegas. April 13-14, Moab = and Arches in Utah. April 15, Denver. April 16-18, driving to Chicago = for arrival on April 19. =20 April 20, 4:30 p.m.: talk and reading at University of Chicago, = Department of English/Creative Writing, room TBA; please contact = katesoto@uchicago.edu =20 April 21, 7:00 p.m.: reading at Myopic Books, 1564 North Milwaukee = Avenue, Chicago, phone: 773-862-4882. =20 April 23, 4:30 p.m., reading with Diane Wakoski, Michigan Writers = Series, W449 in the Main Library, Michigan State University, East = Lansing. =20 =20 April 25, 2:00 p.m., reading at the Scarab Club, 217 Farnsworth St, = Detroit. April 25, 5:00 p.m., reading in Grosse Point, Michigan, venue and = address not available. =20 April 27/28, arriving in New York City and staying through May 30 c/o = Mark Weiss, 5009 Broadway, NY NY 10034. =20 May 7, 6:30 p.m., talk on books in the Threads series, at Steve Clay & = Granary Books loft, 168 Mercer Street, New York. =20 May 20, reading at Pierre Menard Gallery, 10 Arrow Street, Harvard = Square, Cambridge, MA, phone: 617.868.2033. =20 May 27, reading/performance with Pierre Joris, Nicole Peyrafitte, & = others, as part of Maelstr=D6m Revolution Festival (from Brussels) at = Invisible Dog, 51 Bergen Street, Brooklyn, phone: (646) 270-2550 =20 May 30, return flight to San Diego. Jerome Rothenberg Poetry must have something in it 1026 San Abella that is barbaric, vast and wild.. Encinitas, CA 92024 -- D. Diderot 760-436-9923 jrothenberg@cox.net http://writing.upenn.edu/epc/authors/rothenberg/ ethnopoetics web site: http://ubu.com/ethno/ j.r. in spanish: http://writing.upenn.edu/epc/authors/rothenberg/esp/ blog: poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com=20 =20 We are otherwise most easily reachable by cell phone: 760-415-9889 or = 760-415-1430. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:26:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i saw this movie in college. i had no idea about any kind of experimental film. it had a deep effect on me. i've never forgotten it, though of course i've forgotten many specifics. and i had no idea at the time that it was about alcoholism. Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote: > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants to see > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar patches > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This was > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question the > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verité. But in this work, > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Verité > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophical or > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw humanity > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving out > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. > > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical, > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, of > their children. > > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost opposites > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did not > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believed > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the same > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its totality, > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategies to > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had not > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did not > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state of > panic- for that purpose. > > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the Gena > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed by > the reality of her situation. > > Ciao, > > Murat > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha wrote: > > >> Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done for >> Themselves" on his blog >> >> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ >> >> including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brief >> intro to a 12 year project, >> now surfacing in an acceptable state. >> >> I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested might >> go to: >> >> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems >> >> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. >> >> GQ >> >> George Quasha >> www.quasha.com >> www.baumgartnergallery.net >> www.stationhill.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:43:47 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bruce McPherson Subject: After 16 years, a new fiction collection by Robert Kelly MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable McPherson & Co. is very pleased to announce the publication of Robert = Kelly's new fiction collection, The Logic of the World and Other = Fictions, and to offer signed copies to list members at a substantial = discount until May 1: $16 postpaid (instead of $29). Simply add POETICS = to your address when ordering at www.mcphersonco.com, or telephone us = [845-331-5807]. (You can also still order Ted Enslin's new novella, I, = Benjamin, at the same time for only $5 more.) The Logic of the World and Other Fictions by Robert Kelly Adult fiction. Publication: April 6, 2010 $24.00 clothbound, 244 pages, 5 =BD x 8 =BD", 978-0-929701-89-9.=20 Four previous volumes of Robert Kelly's manifestly original fictions = have been hailed as "exhilarating.full of signs and wonders" in the New = York Times Book Review, "sparking, multiform, yet indivisible" in = American Book Review, and "tantalizing, unsettling" in the Review of = Contemporary Fiction. Choice rightly points to his "affinities with the = writings of Borges, Nabokov, Calvino, and Coover." The thirty works in = this fifth collection of short fictions-the first to appear in sixteen = years-knowingly trespass into fictional realms of droll lyricism, = audacious description, studied anachronism, sensual immediacy and subtle = compassion. In one, a woman waits at a window for the moon to return her = body; another reveals the triple identity of Don Juan; in still another, = an itinerant tragedian invents a dangerous form of theatrical = performance; in the title story a dragon questions a youthful knight's = errancy, as well as his sanity. Scattered throughout are nine pieces = known as "sudden fiction," a genre Kelly named, while other tales appear = in the guises of myths, letters, rituals, and quite frequently dreams. = "That is the single mystery of sleep," one narrator reminds, "to teach = us to wake up." The author's agile imagination mines from the thick = substance of language the numinous qualities buried within it. His = fictions defy the conventionally plotted short story, and seem to = conjure narrative from an infinitely recombinant DNA of the psyche. = After reading The Logic of the World, the reader risks awakening to = discover a hitherto unexplored territory of the mind.=20 "There is such beauty and mystery and surprise on the path we are = seductively invited to follow in Robert Kelly's The Logic of the World. = Do not miss this deeply charmed and haunting foray." - Carole Maso, = author of AVA=20 NOTE: The title story has been selected for inclusion in The Year's Best = Science Fiction & Fantasy 2010 (forthcoming). Robert Kelly was born in 1935 in Brooklyn, and educated at CCNY and = Columbia, where he studied mediaeval literature and linguistics. His = first book, Armed Descent, was published in 1961; since then he has = published over sixty more, including novels, short fiction collections, = and poetry, receiving many awards. He has been especially interested in = collaborations with artists (The Garden of Distances, Shame) and other = poets (Mont Blanc, Unquell the Dawn Now). For over fifty years he has = been involved with such celebrated journals as Chelsea, Trobar, = Caterpillar, Alcheringa, and Conjunctions. For almost a half century he = has taught at Bard College, where he is the Asher B. Edelman Professor = of Literature and co-directs the Program in Written Arts. He lives in = the Hudson Valley with his wife, the translator Charlotte Mandell. Praise for earlier collections of Robert Kelly's fictions "By means of language, Kelly invades our senses, bringing us to places = in consciousness where we have never been and where we yearn to go, or = which we long ago abandoned." - Publishers Weekly=20 "A craftsman who shares our intimate thoughts and knows how to glance = along with us at the chambers of our imagination.. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:07:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: 25 Questions: # 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 25 Questions, # 5: Is the long poem still relevant or is it just a museum? Gerald Schwartz =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:30:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Murat, Cassavetes' neo-realism began long before W.U.T.I. and it began parallel to the French new wave-- with "Shadows" (56-59)... and was inspired by "La Tera Trema," "I Vitelloni," "Umberto D.," and "Bellissima". He (like those) was not afraid to face reality; to look it straight in the face. Godard would later follow. I have often wondered if there has (or will be) a poetry (or poetics) that would approach his achievement, both in style and substance... and improvization. Any examples? Till then, Gerald I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants to see how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar patches one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This was the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question the movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verité. But in this work, Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Verité works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophical or moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw humanity nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving out of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical, stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, of their children. Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost opposites -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did not believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believed truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the same scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its totality, to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategies to achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had not shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did not know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state of panic- for that purpose. The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the Gena Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed by the reality of her situation. Ciao, Murat On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha wrote: > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done for > Themselves" on his blog > > poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ > > including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brief > intro to a 12 year project, > now surfacing in an acceptable state. > > I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested might > go to: > > http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems > > Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. > > GQ > > George Quasha > www.quasha.com > www.baumgartnergallery.net > www.stationhill.org > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:00:08 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Paul Siegell Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9CWho=E2=80=99s_Got_My_Extra=3F=E2=80=9D_?= @ I Thought I Was New Here Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello friends and fellow colleagues, Greg Lawless, author of "I Thought I was New Here," was kind enough to co= ok an interview with me recently for his series at "I Thought I Was New Here= ."=20 If you've ever been curious, please have a look here: http://bit.ly/98fkU= M Firecrackers include Charles Olson and sleepiness, buzzbangboom, ugly looking poems, community, live music, Coventry, VT, the all-out nuttiness= of the Internet, and two books. 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Does serial poetry count? Muse & Drudge, a collection or a long poem? Either way, relevant to me = as an example of what play with language can teach. Song of the Andoumboulou, I'd say is relevant, in its cross-culturality. Silliman's The Alphabet? Frank Stanford's The Battlefield Where the Moon Says I Love You seems = relevant to me as an exploration of the South at a particular moment and = as an attempt to make something lyrical from a sort of patchwork of = peoples, from a patchwork segregated culture. Hejinian's My Life is often used to introduce students to Language = writing. And is itself a thought-provoking example of how process can = enter into (intervene in?) life writing. I feel like I'm giving this question more than it gave me. Unless = somebody brings more to this stone soup, I'm whistling in the wind. JP On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > 25 Questions, # 5: >=20 > Is the long poem still relevant or is it just a museum? >=20 > Gerald Schwartz >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check = guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html JP Craig http://jpcraig.blogspot.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 03:10:56 GMT Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "skyplums@juno.com" Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 here here gerald shadows husbands etc all great i think in shadows wh= ich was his first (?) he used some mingus music- chinese bookie even hi= s last film opening night wow = and his wife gena rowlands from woman to that one wow again ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Gerald Schwartz To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:30:59 -0400 Murat, Cassavetes' neo-realism began long before W.U.T.I. and it began parallel= to the French new wave-- with "Shadows" (56-59)... and was inspired by "La Tera Trema," "I Vitelloni," "Umberto D.," and "Bellissima". He (like those) was not afraid to face reality; to look it straight in t= he = face. Godard would later follow. I have often wondered if there has (or will be) a poetry (or poetics) th= at = would approach his achievement, both in style and substance... and improvizati= on. Any examples? Till then, Gerald I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants to= see how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar patch= es one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This w= as the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question = the movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this wo= rk, Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Veri= t=E9 works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophical= or moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw huma= nity nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving o= ut of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical,= stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, of= their children. Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost opposi= tes -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did n= ot believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believe= d truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the s= ame scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its totali= ty, to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategies= to achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had = not shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did no= t know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state o= f panic- for that purpose. The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the = Gena Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed = by the reality of her situation. Ciao, Murat On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha = wrote: > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done = for > Themselves" on his blog > > poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ > > including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a bri= ef > intro to a 12 year project, > now surfacing in an acceptable state. > > I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested mi= ght > go to: > > http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems > > Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. > > GQ > > George Quasha > www.quasha.com > www.baumgartnergallery.net > www.stationhill.org > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check = > guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guideli= nes = & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guideli= nes & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:32:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: <8D13BCEFD65749559FB53E4294E4776F@KayPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gerald, Well, that's what I am trying to do in my work. That's why I was so taken with it. You may be right about the dates, but this movie has a roughness i= n terms of technique- which nearer I think to what Godard means by "bad cinema." What are the dates of My Life to Live or Band of Outsiders? Cassavetes's film was made in 1972. Maria, A Woman Under the Influence is not about alcoholism though the title may suggest that. It deals with a woman's eccentric behavior which can be taken as insanity, but which Cassavets insists it is not, but the result of the rules of a society which will not let her be fully who she is. Gena Rawlands, Peter Falk and the kids are something to see. Many people in the film are family members. Rawland's mother plays her mother, Cassaveteses's mother plays Falk's mother. The film has absolutely stunning things in it. For example, a spaghetti brealfast with about ten people around a table suddenly has two characters suddenly starting to burst into arias, in one case the person does not know the words... Wow! Worth a revisit. Ciao, Murat On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Gerald Schwartz wr= ote: > Murat, > > Cassavetes' neo-realism began long before W.U.T.I. and it began parallel = to > the French new wave-- with "Shadows" (56-59)... and was inspired by "La > Tera Trema," "I Vitelloni," "Umberto D.," and "Bellissima". > > He (like those) was not afraid to face reality; to look it straight in th= e > face. > > Godard would later follow. > > I have often wondered if there has (or will be) a poetry (or poetics) tha= t > would > approach his achievement, both in style and substance... and improvizatio= n. > > Any examples? > > Till then, > Gerald > > > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants to > see > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar patche= s > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This wa= s > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question t= he > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this wor= k, > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Verit= =E9 > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophical = or > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw > humanity > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving ou= t > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. > > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical, > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, of > their children. > > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost opposit= es > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did no= t > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believed > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the sa= me > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its totalit= y, > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategies = to > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had n= ot > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did not > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state of > panic- for that purpose. > > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the > Gena > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed b= y > the reality of her situation. > > Ciao, > > Murat > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha >wrote: > > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done fo= r >> Themselves" on his blog >> >> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ >> >> including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brief >> intro to a 12 year project, >> now surfacing in an acceptable state. >> >> I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested migh= t >> go to: >> >> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems >> >> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. >> >> GQ >> >> George Quasha >> www.quasha.com >> www.baumgartnergallery.net >> www.stationhill.org >> >> >> >> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:11:58 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: 25 Questions: # 5 In-Reply-To: <688B648F9A3B46B0989C74DDBA40ED4D@KayPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Everything is as relevant as everything else. Again this implies canon/ genre/conoisseurship. I hear Silliman writes long. Some like short Wordsworth (he was only 4' 8" - think of it). - Alan On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > 25 Questions, # 5: > > Is the long poem still relevant or is it just a museum? > > Gerald Schwartz > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com == ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:36:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: 25 Questions: # 5 In-Reply-To: <688B648F9A3B46B0989C74DDBA40ED4D@KayPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Relevant, relevant. Nothing but. What is a short poem? Murat (By the way, Maria, I think Cassavetes's Opening Night is about alcoholism (about an alcoholic great actresses' opening night in a play.) On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > 25 Questions, # 5: > > Is the long poem still relevant or is it just a museum? > > Gerald Schwartz > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:28:53 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Pam Brown Subject: Wanted - Reviewers for two Australian poetry books for Jacket Magazine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Poeticists, Please contact me at p.brown62@gmail.com if you'd like to review either of these interesting new titles : A Whistled Bit Of Bop - poems by Ken Bolton PRICE Austn $27.50 * Vagabond Press Ken Bolton's A Whistled Bit of Bop begins and ends with poems that embrace the abstract via collage - working with pre-existing materials, the initial selection often arbitrary. Thus 'Double Trouble' deals with time and timing, art, friendship; closing the collection, 'Triumvirate' works similarly but in a context that is political and historical. Bolton acknowledges parts of a particular pantheon (F.T. Prince, Tony Towle, Peter Schjeldahl, Ashbery, Berrigan, John Forbes) in the sequence 'Late Night Reading', which tips from satire to elegy and out again, while 'Some Photos for Gabe' takes the form of a letter, wondering at the recipient's life in London and meditating on two images of domestic life in Australia. In a different register, 'Australian Suburban Garden' is spun out of the 'everyday' - art, time, Europe. Some poems are amusing tours de force, others are like spells. "The light changed? Must have." published by Vagabond Press - http://www.vagabondpress.net/Vagabond_Press/Vagabond.html __________________________________________________________________________ Dark Bright Doors - poems by Jill Jones Price Austn $19.95 * Wakefield Press Jill Jones=92 sixth book, raises questions of the self, as well as the ecology of place and language. This is Jones at her most versatile and idiosyncratic, at times a little wild and dark. The poems are intimate, sharp, self-critical and very present. Published by Wakefield Press - http://www.wakefieldpress.com.au/books/darkbrightdoors.html All the best from Pam ____________________________________ blog : http://thedeletions.blogspot.com website : http://pambrownbooks.blogspot.com/ associate editor : http://jacketmagazine.com/ & continuing with Jacket2 in 2011 _____________________________________ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:03:08 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: Marcus McCann on Nicholas Lea Ottawa/Toronto poet Marcus McCann on Ottawa poet Nicholas Lea in the Globe & Mail books blog; http://www.theglobeandmail.com/books/in-other-words/poetry-month-marcus-mccann-on-nicholas-lea/article1527667/ rob -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:36:43 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: CA Conrad Subject: HERETICAL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Factory School published HERETICAL TEXT the only time authors of all 5 books will be reading together is this Saturday details here: http://events4cri.blogspot.com/ -- PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:11:17 GMT Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "skyplums@juno.com" Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 both goddard films mentioned are much earlier band one of his first i saw woman when it first came out at waverly theater lovced it then and now under the influence of her lir life her insanity= her husband's dominance her role as a house wife one thing that struck me when i first saw it = was that i felt tho i knew falk etc that i was in a real situation = i was still young grew up working class etc but what also struck me due to cassavettes approach it was the first film in which i saw the boom mike hanging over the acto= rs i believe in a kitchen scene - sadly that detracted from me at the time = = and i always wondered if if were an accident which due to budgeting i'm sure it was ....bad cinema so diff from grade A films made with l= ess than grade B budgets tho in art terms BAD CINEMA has a diff connotation BAD in several ways= purposely purposefully BAD ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Murat Nemet-Nejat To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:32:05 -0400 Gerald, Well, that's what I am trying to do in my work. That's why I was so take= n with it. You may be right about the dates, but this movie has a roughnes= s in terms of technique- which nearer I think to what Godard means by "bad cinema." What are the dates of My Life to Live or Band of Outsiders? Cassavetes's film was made in 1972. Maria, A Woman Under the Influence is not about alcoholism though the ti= tle may suggest that. It deals with a woman's eccentric behavior which can b= e taken as insanity, but which Cassavets insists it is not, but the result= of the rules of a society which will not let her be fully who she is. Gena Rawlands, Peter Falk and the kids are something to see. Many people in the film are family members. Rawland's mother plays her mother, Cassaveteses's mother plays Falk's mother. The film has absolutely stunning things in it. For example, a spaghetti brealfast with about ten people around a table suddenly has two characte= rs suddenly starting to burst into arias, in one case the person does not k= now the words... Wow! Worth a revisit. Ciao, Murat On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Gerald Schwartz wrote: > Murat, > > Cassavetes' neo-realism began long before W.U.T.I. and it began parall= el to > the French new wave-- with "Shadows" (56-59)... and was inspired by "L= a > Tera Trema," "I Vitelloni," "Umberto D.," and "Bellissima". > > He (like those) was not afraid to face reality; to look it straight in= the > face. > > Godard would later follow. > > I have often wondered if there has (or will be) a poetry (or poetics) = that > would > approach his achievement, both in style and substance... and improviza= tion. > > Any examples? > > Till then, > Gerald > > > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants = to > see > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar pat= ches > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This= was > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no questio= n the > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this = work, > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Ve= rit=E9 > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other= > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophic= al or > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw > humanity > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving= out > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. > > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radica= l, > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, = of > their children. > > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost oppo= sites > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did= not > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He belie= ved > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the= same > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the ra= w > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its tota= lity, > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategi= es to > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who ha= d not > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did = not > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state= of > panic- for that purpose. > > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life th= e > Gena > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbe= d by > the reality of her situation. > > Ciao, > > Murat > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha >wrote: > > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done= for >> Themselves" on his blog >> >> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ >> >> including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a br= ief >> intro to a 12 year project, >> now surfacing in an acceptable state. >> >> I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested m= ight >> go to: >> >> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems >> >> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. >> >> GQ >> >> George Quasha >> www.quasha.com >> www.baumgartnergallery.net >> www.stationhill.org >> >> >> >> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guide= lines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guide= lines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guideli= nes & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:47:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Adam Fieled Subject: Pennsound Apps: Two Final Installments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm totally thrilled to have two final installments of Apps on Pennsound: http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Fieled.php Many thanks, as always, to Michael Hennessey and the rest of the Pennsound folks. Adam ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:57:29 -0700 Reply-To: derek beaulieu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: derek beaulieu Subject: new from NO press: Eric Zboya's Algorithmic translation of UN COUP DE DES Comments: To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@invalid.domain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NO press is pleased to announce the publication of =20 =20 UN COUP DE DES JAMIAS N'ABOLIRA LE HASARD (vecteur) by Eric Zboya =20 Like the translations of Un Coup de d=E9s by Marcel Broodthaers, Michael = Maranda, Guido Molinari, and Michalis Pichler (all of whom emphasize the = spatial quality of the text itself), my response attempts to expose the = higher-dimensional motifs found within the original text by = Mallarm=E9-but unlike my predecessors, my translation uses graphic = imaging software to add an element of dimensionality to the text by = reconfiguring and redesigning each page as a non-Euclidean entity. = Through a series of algorithmic calculations, the computer program = extrudes a sequence of abstract images based upon the original positions = of the type on the page. Within the cyberspace continuum, these abstract = Mallarm=E9an images possess an array of spatial properties that allow = for each entity to be viewed from all angles in a more volumetric space. = In the end, the result quite literally showcases a three-dimensional, = computer-generated translation that physically upholds the spatial = lattice suggested by the text's structure, while semantically retaining = the text's abstract, higher-dimensional concepts. -- Eric Zboya, from the afterward to "Un Coup de Des..." =20 32 pages, sewn binding. published in an edition of 40 copies (20 of which are for sale) $5 each. =20 for more information, or to order copies, please email: derek beaulieu derek@housepress.ca http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/beaulieu/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:30:31 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Margaret Konkol Subject: S M A L L P R E S S in the A R C H I V E Margaret Konkol In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ++ Please mark your calendars for this coming Monday, April 12th @ 2:00 pm for another Small Press in the Archive lecture: "Nature in N-Dimensions." This talk will be held in The Poetry Collection, 420 Capen @ SUNY Buffalo. This event is free and open to the public. Small Press in the Archive Lecture Series dedicates itself to the study of poetry outside the traditional literary historical plot. The lectures in this series draw on materials in The Poetry Collection, at SUNY Buffalo in order to explore community/discourse formations, the status of ephemera and the making of genre, the conditions of literary production, transatlantic cross-pollinations in and between specific magazines, the careers of poets, the role of book art, and how the little magazine functions in the making of the avant-garde. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:44:51 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Scott Hamilton Subject: UK tabloid editor in shock poetry scandal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://books.scoop.co.nz/2010/04/06/2148/ =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:10:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Upcoming Events at The Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Friday, April 9, 10 PM Joey Yearous-Algozin & Divya Victor Joey Yearous-Algozin is the author of Kensington Notebook (Lean-To Press) and BOSTON STREET/TREES (Lean-To Press). His poetry has appeared or is forthcoming from Cannot Exist, Forage, and the Robert Walser Society of Massachusetts. He is currently a PhD student in Poetics at SUNY-Buffalo. Divya Victor has lived and learned in India, Singapore, Baltimore, Philadelphia and Seattle. She has an M.A. from Temple University and is currently working towards her Ph.D. at the University at Buffalo. Her work has appeared in ambit, XConnect, The Ixnay Reader, dusie, President=B9s Choice, P-QUEUE, and Drunken Boat. Her chapbook SUTURES was just published by Little Red Leaves. Monday, April 12, 8 PM Brett Evans & Mike Hauser Brett Evans recent books include Slosh Models (Factory School, 2009) and (with Frank Sherlock) Ready-to-Eat Individual (Lavender Ink, 2007). He is currently looking for a kind publisher to release a special 20-year collector=B9s edition of Horse Pills. He is one of the founding members of Ne= w Orleans=B9 only carnival microkrewe, =8Ctit rex. Mike Hauser lives in Milwaukee. His books include crets crets crets, and Psychic Headset. His work has appeared in Sprung Formal, Abraham Lincoln, The Hat, Rust Buckle, The Blue Canary, and Fell Swoop, among other fine publications. He is editing an issue of the Milwaukee magazine Burdock, which is published by Keith Gaustad. He co-curates a reading series called Salacious Banter with Karl Saffran. Wednesday, April 14, 8 PM Miles Champion & Jennifer Moxley Miles Champion=B9s books include Compositional Bonbons Placate, Sore Models, Three Bell Zero and How to Laugh (forthcoming from Adventures in Poetry). Providence, an artist=B9s book in collaboration with Jane South, was publishe= d by Sienese Shredder Editions in 2008. His recent writing appears in America= n Book Review, Critical Quarterly, Mimeo Mimeo, PN Review and The Poetry Project Newsletter. He lives in Brooklyn. Jennifer Moxley is the author of five books of poetry: Clampdown (Flood 2009), The Line (Post-Apollo 2007), Often Capital (Flood 2005), The Sense Record (Edge 2002; Salt 2003) and Imagination Verses (Tender Buttons 1996; Salt 2003). Her memoir The Middle Room was published by Subpress in 2007. She has translated two books by the French poet Jacqueline Risset, The Translation Begins (Burning Deck 1996) and Sleep=B9s Powers (Ugly Duckling 2008). She is poetry editor of The Baffler, and contributing editor of The Poker. She works as an Associate Professor at the University of Maine. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.org/become-a-member Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.org/program-calendar The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.org www.poetryproject.org Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $95 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.org. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:09:55 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Pam Brown Subject: Thanks once again - Jacket has reviewers for Aussie titles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Poeticists, Thanks once again for your responses. Too good. Too kind. Jacket has reviewers for Ken Bolton's & Jill Jones' new poetry books. Very best from Pam -- ____________________________________ blog : http://thedeletions.blogspot.com website : http://pambrownbooks.blogspot.com/ associate editor : http://jacketmagazine.com/ & continuing with Jacket2 in 2011 _____________________________________ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:06 -0400 Reply-To: clwnwr@earthlink.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bob Heman Subject: Lydia Cortes, Bob Heman & George Spencer will read next Thursday at Space on White MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks, this is just to let you know that I'll be featuring next thursday, April 15, with Lydia Cortes and George Spencer at Space on White, as part Evie Ivy and Jack Tricarico's new reading series, Poets on White. The reading will start at 7:00 and there will also be an open mic. I expect to be reading from my Dr. Cone series, along with a few surprises. Space on White is a new performance space located at 81 White St. between Broadway and Lafayette a couple of blocks below Canal St. Any train that stops on Canal St. will you leave you close by, including the R, the N, the M, the J and the 6, and a little farther away the A and the E. I hope to see you all there. - Bob Bob Heman clwnwr@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:57:15 -0300 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Regina Pinto Subject: This is visual poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Maybe you already know this project by Dan Waber: "This is Visual Poetry" What you do not know is that now I have =A0a chapbook there: http://thisisvisualpoetry.com/ Go down to find my chapbook, it has my latest series "Roads" and, participate too! Best regards, Regina =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:25:30 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Justin Katko Subject: Glossator 2: on the poems of J.H. Prynne In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Announcing ----- Ten new commentaries on the poetry of J.H. Prynne are now available as PDFs from Glossator 2, edited by Ryan Dobran, here: http://ojs.gc.cuny.edu/index.php/glossator/issue/current. It will soon be available as a print volume through Amazon. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:54:44 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "J.P. Craig" Subject: Re: UK tabloid editor in shock poetry scandal In-Reply-To: <282788.44358.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Newspeak, you may want to check out the wikipedia entry on Basic = English. BE influenced Orwell. I don't see reference there to Basic = English's use as part of US Cold War efforts to build a capitalist bloc, = but it was. Ogden was interestingly connected to the Heretic's society. There's more = on this in Damon Franke's Modernist Heresies. On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Scott Hamilton wrote: > http://books.scoop.co.nz/2010/04/06/2148/ > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check = guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html JP Craig http://jpcraig.blogspot.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 18:12:05 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: cranesbill@COMCAST.NET Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: <20100408.111117.20912.2@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have it in front of me, but I think Ray Carney writes at length in = his Cassavetes book about such "mistakes", particularly as they occur in my= own particular favorite, Killing of a Chinese Bookie.=20 Jeffrey=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "skyplums@juno.com" =20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2010 12:11:17 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain=20 Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence"=20 both goddard films mentioned are much earlier band one of his first=20 i saw woman when it first came out at waverly theater=20 lovced it then and now under the influence of her lir life her insanity=20 her husband's dominance her role as a house wife=20 one thing that struck me when i first saw it=20 was that i felt tho i knew falk etc that i was in a real situation=20 i was still young grew up working class etc=20 but what also struck me due to cassavettes approach=20 it was the first film in which i saw the boom mike hanging over the actors= =20 i believe in a kitchen scene - sadly that detracted from me at the time=20 and i always wondered if if were an accident which due to budgeting=20 i'm sure it was ....bad cinema so diff from grade A films made with less th= an grade B budgets=20 tho in art terms BAD CINEMA has a diff connotation BAD in several ways purp= osely purposefully BAD=20 ---------- Original Message ----------=20 From: Murat Nemet-Nejat =20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence"=20 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:32:05 -0400=20 Gerald,=20 Well, that's what I am trying to do in my work. That's why I was so taken= =20 with it. You may be right about the dates, but this movie has a roughness i= n=20 terms of technique- which nearer I think to what Godard means by "bad=20 cinema." What are the dates of My Life to Live or Band of Outsiders?=20 Cassavetes's film was made in 1972.=20 Maria, A Woman Under the Influence is not about alcoholism though the title= =20 may suggest that. It deals with a woman's eccentric behavior which can be= =20 taken as insanity, but which Cassavets insists it is not, but the result of= =20 the rules of a society which will not let her be fully who she is. Gena=20 Rawlands, Peter Falk and the kids are something to see.=20 Many people in the film are family members. Rawland's mother plays her=20 mother, Cassaveteses's mother plays Falk's mother.=20 The film has absolutely stunning things in it. For example, a spaghetti=20 brealfast with about ten people around a table suddenly has two characters= =20 suddenly starting to burst into arias, in one case the person does not know= =20 the words... Wow!=20 Worth a revisit.=20 Ciao,=20 Murat=20 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Gerald Schwartz wr= ote:=20 > Murat,=20 >=20 > Cassavetes' neo-realism began long before W.U.T.I. and it began parallel = to=20 > the French new wave-- with "Shadows" (56-59)... and was inspired by "La= =20 > Tera Trema," "I Vitelloni," "Umberto D.," and "Bellissima".=20 >=20 > He (like those) was not afraid to face reality; to look it straight in th= e=20 > face.=20 >=20 > Godard would later follow.=20 >=20 > I have often wondered if there has (or will be) a poetry (or poetics) tha= t=20 > would=20 > approach his achievement, both in style and substance... and improvizatio= n.=20 >=20 > Any examples?=20 >=20 > Till then,=20 > Gerald=20 >=20 >=20 > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants to= =20 > see=20 > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar patche= s=20 > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the=20 > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This wa= s=20 > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question t= he=20 > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=C3=A9. But in this = work,=20 > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Verit= =C3=A9=20 > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other=20 > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophical = or=20 > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human=20 > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw=20 > humanity=20 > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving ou= t=20 > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses.=20 >=20 > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical,= =20 > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, of= =20 > their children.=20 >=20 > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost opposit= es=20 > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the=20 > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did no= t=20 > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believed= =20 > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to=20 > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the sa= me=20 > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw= =20 > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its totalit= y,=20 > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategies = to=20 > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had n= ot=20 > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did not= =20 > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state of= =20 > panic- for that purpose.=20 >=20 > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the= =20 > Gena=20 > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed b= y=20 > the reality of her situation.=20 >=20 > Ciao,=20 >=20 > Murat=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha >wrote:=20 >=20 > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done for= =20 >> Themselves" on his blog=20 >>=20 >> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/=20 >>=20 >> including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brief= =20 >> intro to a 12 year project,=20 >> now surfacing in an acceptable state.=20 >>=20 >> I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested migh= t=20 >> go to:=20 >>=20 >> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems=20 >>=20 >> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too.=20 >>=20 >> GQ=20 >>=20 >> George Quasha=20 >> www.quasha.com=20 >> www.baumgartnergallery.net=20 >> www.stationhill.org=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check=20 >> guidelines=20 >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=20 >>=20 >>=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es=20 > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es=20 > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=20 >=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:41:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: <20100408.111117.20912.2@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i did not think it was intentional, but Cassevetes didn't care. he knew he was hiring people with very little experience and that things like that would happen (occasionally, characters walk off the frame); but he felt their lack of experience gave the scene an edginess -provided people worked very hard- and the trade-off was worth it for him. That is what I mean by "bad cinema" -not intentionally bad -which perhaps the French New Wave thought, or perhaps not- but bad as a trade-off, a necessary step to achiev= e the rawness. It is part -an integral part- of a process. In that way, it is more akin to mistakes which may occur in a live t.v. comedy show, for instance, or improvisational jazz. Interesting, you saw Falk's position within the family as dominance; I experienced it more as protective of her, suddenly putting down the clamp o= n her when certain limits are crossed (for example, in the spaghetti breakfas= t scene when she is touching the black guy, urging him to sing, and he is feeling uncomfortable). He does tell her later that he knew "she didn't mea= n anything by it," that it was her affectionate nature; but the guy didn't. I thought there was love, a lot of affection, a gentleness between the two. Ciao, Murat On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:11 PM, skyplums@juno.com wrote= : > both goddard films mentioned are much earlier band one of his first > i saw woman when it first came out at waverly theater > lovced it then and now under the influence of her lir life her insanity > her husband's dominance her role as a house wife > one thing that struck me when i first saw it > was that i felt tho i knew falk etc that i was in a real situation > i was still young grew up working class etc > but what also struck me due to cassavettes approach > it was the first film in which i saw the boom mike hanging over the actor= s > i believe in a kitchen scene - sadly that detracted from me at the time > and i always wondered if if were an accident which due to budgeting > i'm sure it was ....bad cinema so diff from grade A films made with le= ss > than grade B budgets > tho in art terms BAD CINEMA has a diff connotation BAD in several ways > purposely purposefully BAD > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Murat Nemet-Nejat > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:32:05 -0400 > > Gerald, > > Well, that's what I am trying to do in my work. That's why I was so taken > with it. You may be right about the dates, but this movie has a roughness > in > terms of technique- which nearer I think to what Godard means by "bad > cinema." What are the dates of My Life to Live or Band of Outsiders? > Cassavetes's film was made in 1972. > > Maria, A Woman Under the Influence is not about alcoholism though the tit= le > may suggest that. It deals with a woman's eccentric behavior which can be > taken as insanity, but which Cassavets insists it is not, but the result = of > the rules of a society which will not let her be fully who she is. Gena > Rawlands, Peter Falk and the kids are something to see. > > Many people in the film are family members. Rawland's mother plays her > mother, Cassaveteses's mother plays Falk's mother. > > The film has absolutely stunning things in it. For example, a spaghetti > brealfast with about ten people around a table suddenly has two character= s > suddenly starting to burst into arias, in one case the person does not kn= ow > the words... Wow! > > Worth a revisit. > > Ciao, > > Murat > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Gerald Schwartz >wrote: > > > Murat, > > > > Cassavetes' neo-realism began long before W.U.T.I. and it began paralle= l > to > > the French new wave-- with "Shadows" (56-59)... and was inspired by "La > > Tera Trema," "I Vitelloni," "Umberto D.," and "Bellissima". > > > > He (like those) was not afraid to face reality; to look it straight in > the > > face. > > > > Godard would later follow. > > > > I have often wondered if there has (or will be) a poetry (or poetics) > that > > would > > approach his achievement, both in style and substance... and > improvization. > > > > Any examples? > > > > Till then, > > Gerald > > > > > > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants t= o > > see > > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar > patches > > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the > > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This > was > > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question > the > > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this w= ork, > > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film > Verit=E9 > > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other > > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophica= l > or > > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human > > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw > > humanity > > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving > out > > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. > > > > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical= , > > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, o= f > > their children. > > > > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost > opposites > > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the > > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did > not > > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believ= ed > > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to > > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the > same > > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw > > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its > totality, > > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategie= s > to > > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had > not > > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did n= ot > > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state = of > > panic- for that purpose. > > > > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the > > Gena > > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed > by > > the reality of her situation. > > > > Ciao, > > > > Murat > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha > >wrote: > > > > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done > for > >> Themselves" on his blog > >> > >> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a bri= ef > >> intro to a 12 year project, > >> now surfacing in an acceptable state. > >> > >> I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested > might > >> go to: > >> > >> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems > >> > >> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. > >> > >> GQ > >> > >> George Quasha > >> www.quasha.com > >> www.baumgartnergallery.net > >> www.stationhill.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:11:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Wilcox Subject: Third Thursday Poetry Night, April 15: Paul Pines Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 the Poetry Motel Foundation presents =20 Third Thursday Poetry Night =20 at the Social Justice Center 33 Central Ave., Albany, NY =20 Thursday, April 15 7:00 sign up; 7:30 start =20 Featured Poet: Paul Pines & the official unofficial start of Albany WordFest 2010! -- with an open mic for community poets before & after the feature: = $3.00 donation, suggested; more if you got it, less if you can=92t. Your jazzy, poetic host: Dan Wilcox. =20 =20 Paul Pines is the author of two novels, The Tin Angel (Morrow, =9183), = and Redemption (Rocher, =9197). My Brother=92s Madness (Curbstone, =9107),= a memoir, enjoyed wide critical acclaim. Pines=92 seven books of poetry = are: Onion, Hotel Madden Poems, Pines Songs, Breath, Adrift on Blinding = Light, Taxidancing and Last Call at the Tin Palace. He lives in Glens = Falls, New York, where he practices as a psychotherapist and hosts the = Lake George Jazz Weekend. =20 =20 * * * ART OF MEMORY =97 for Hilton Ruiz =20 Driving from the airport to New Orleans =20 on a May evening the silence that comes =20 after so many notes light suspended =20 in the southern sky like fire in a river =20 mind reflecting on itself the unheard =20 music of dusk melting into jungle from which =20 a single chord is struck somewhere =20 a freighter slips coastwise =20 from the delta into the Gulf =20 * * *= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:14:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dan Wilcox Subject: Albany WordFest Update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) We are just eight short days away from the biggest poetry and spoken = word event in New York's Capital Region. Here is an update on Word Fest = weekend and who is scheduled to perform. In celebration of National Poetry Month, Albany Poets is proud to = present the 2010 Albany Word Fest featuring the poetry, spoken word, and = music of upstate New York. This year=92s event will take place on = Friday, April 16 and Saturday, April 17, 2010 at the UAG Gallery (247 = Lark Street, Albany, NY). The 2010 Albany Word Fest will start off on Friday evening with a very = special Youth Open Mic at 5:00PM. This is a chance for all of the young = poets and performers of the area to share their work. All poets who wish = to participate in this open mic can sign up at the gallery. At 7:00PM, the 12-Hour Open Mic begins. After the success of the first = night long open mic last year, we have decided to do it again. This open = mic for poetry and spoken word will be held from 7:00PM =96 7:00AM. Poets who wish to participate in the open mic can sign up online by = going to the Albany Word Fest website, www.albanywordfest.com until = April 15. Poets will also be able to sign up at Professor Java=92s Wide = Open Mic on Monday, April 12. Thom Francis, President of Albany Poets explains, =93The first Albany = Word Fest was held in 2001 in Thatcher Park. It featured poets from all = over the upstate area sharing their words all day and into the evening = in a beautiful outdoor setting. Through all of the Word Fests since = then, we have kept the same idea in mind; invite the poets and spoken = word artists from all over the capital region and beyond to=20 share their words and show that =91poetry lives in Albany=92.=94 This year we have a great list of new poets and poets who have been a = part of the local literary community for years. Artists and poets = already scheduled to perform include Jan Tramontano, Judith Prest, Erica = Wolfe, Justin Miller, ILLiptical, Cecele Kraus, Poets from the Hudson = Valley Writers Guild, Todd Fabozzi, John Raymond, Jacqueline Renee Ahl, = Carol Graser, Barbara Garro, Jason Crane, Tim Verhaegen,=20 Joe Hesch, Matt Galletta, Joanne Trapanese, Nancy Denofio, Cheryl A. = Rice, Julie Lomoe, Robb Smith, Karin Maag-Tanchak, Adarro Minton, Tess = Lecuyer, Bob Sharkey, Jacqueline Kirkpatrick, Shannon Lynette, Robert = Eaton, Shannon Shoemaker, Therese Broderick, R.M. Engelhardt, = Christopher James, Justin Parrinello, Robert Milby, Christopher "Pinky" = Gazeent, The Poet Essence, Shaun Baxter, Joe Hollander,=20 Adrianna Delgado, Anthony Bernini, AVERY, Carli McCoy, Dan Wilcox, W.D. = Clarke, and Don Levy. The open mic is open to all poets and spoken word = artists with no style or content restrictions. Admission is based on = donation. On Saturday at 8:00PM, day two of the 2010 Albany Word Fest brings the = annual Psycho Cluster F*#k to the UAG Gallery featuring poetry, music = and spoken word from Rebecca Schumejda, Nathan Graziano, The Johnnie = Bravehearts, Ed Rinaldi, Murrow, Ms. Bliss, Q Diamond, Eloquence, Poetyc = Vyzyonz, Sunshine, Souljourner Truth, and more. Admission for this = event is $5.00. This event is open to all ages. Again this year, Albany Poets will be streaming the whole two day event = live onwww.albanypoets.com for all of those who are not able to make it = to the UAG Gallery to be in the audience. The 2010 Albany Word Fest is sponsored by Albany Poets, Tess=92 Lark = Tavern, UAG Gallery, and the very generous donations of supporters of = the arts in upstate New York. For more information, up-to-date event news, open mic sign up, flyers, = handouts and more, go to www.albanywordfest.com Schedule of Events:=20 Friday, April 16=20 5:00PM =96 Youth Open Mic at UAG Gallery (247 Lark St., Albany)=20 7:00PM =96 12-Hour Friday Night Open Mic at UAG Gallery (247 Lark St., = Albany) Saturday, April 17=20 8:00PM =96 Psycho Cluster F#*k at UAG Gallery (247 Lark St., Albany) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:46:25 +0200 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Anny Ballardini Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: <4BBC7A12.5050703@umn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems that the entire movie is on YouTube, if you wish to watch some scenes. I went back to see some parts since I had almost forgotten it. It i= s a movie that touches hard. She acts out what people are not supposed to say= , probably not even think if they do not want to cross the borderline. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Maria Damon wrote: > i saw this movie in college. i had no idea about any kind of experimental > film. it had a deep effect on me. > i've never forgotten it, though of course i've forgotten many specifics. > and i had no idea at the time that it > was about alcoholism. > > > Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote: > >> I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants to >> see >> how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar patch= es >> one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the >> limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This w= as >> the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question >> the >> movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this wo= rk, >> Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Veri= t=E9 >> works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other >> movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophical >> or >> moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human >> relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw >> humanity >> nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving o= ut >> of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. >> >> Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical, >> stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, of >> their children. >> >> Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost >> opposites >> -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the >> director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did n= ot >> believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believe= d >> truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to >> capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the >> same >> scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw >> anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its >> totality, >> to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategies >> to >> achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had >> not >> shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did no= t >> know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state o= f >> panic- for that purpose. >> >> The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the >> Gena >> Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed = by >> the reality of her situation. >> >> Ciao, >> >> Murat >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha > >wrote: >> >> >> >>> Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done f= or >>> Themselves" on his blog >>> >>> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brie= f >>> intro to a 12 year project, >>> now surfacing in an acceptable state. >>> >>> I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested mig= ht >>> go to: >>> >>> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems >>> >>> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. >>> >>> GQ >>> >>> George Quasha >>> www.quasha.com >>> www.baumgartnergallery.net >>> www.stationhill.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >>> guidelines >>> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >>> >>> >>> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > --=20 Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome http://www.lulu.com/content/5806078 http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche =AB Stulta est clementia, cum tot ubique vatibus occurras, periturae parcere chartae =BB Giovenale =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:45:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jules Boykoff Subject: Buuck/Hardacker/Kemp in Portland, Oregon--Sat. 10 April MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tangent is thrilled to host a multi-media poetry event on SATURDAY, 10 =20 APRIL at 7 PM. Bay Area poet and interventionary artist DAVID BUUCK =20 will perform, as will ARNOLD J. KEMP, a poet and visual artist who =20 heads the Master in Fine Arts program at Pacific Northwest College of =20 Art in Portland. Local filmmaker JENNIFER HARDACKER will also screen =20 her work. The event will take place at our usual spot, the Clinton =20 Corner Cafe in SE Portland. Admission is free.=A0 Tangent presents: DAVID BUUCK, JENNIFER HARDACKER, & ARNOLD J. KEMP SATURDAY, APRIL 10 at 7 PM Clinton Corner Cafe, 2633 SE 21st Ave. (@ Clinton) Portland, Oregon www.thetangentpress.org/readings.html DAVID BUUCK=A0is the author of The Shunt (Palm Press, 2009) and numerous =20 small-press chapbooks and pamphlets. He is the founder of BARGE (the =20 Bay Area Research Group in Enviro-aesthetics), and teaches at Mills =20 and Bard Colleges. He lives in Oakland, California. For more =20 information about him and his work, see: =20 http://buuckbarge.wordpress.com/ and davidbuuck.com/barge JENNIFER HARDACKER=A0is is an experimental short film/video maker and =20 educator. She has been making films and videos for over 13 years and =20 her films have screened widely in festivals across the US. Her films =20 are often personal in nature and are interested in re-imaging and =20 re-imagining the meaning and context of images. Currently, Hardacker =20 teaches film/video studies and production at Pacific University in =20 Oregon. Prior to life in the Northwest, she taught film at the =20 University of Michigan and The New School University in New York City. =20 She also spent time working professionally in New York as an editor =20 and assistant editor of television commercials, short films and music =20 videos. ARNOLD J. KEMP=A0was recently named Chair of the Master in Fine Arts in =20 Visual Studies Program at Pacific Northwest College of Art. He's =20 received awards from Printed Matter, Art Matters, the Joan Mitchell =20 Foundation, Pollock-Krasner Fouundation, and Artadia Fund for Art. His =20 works are in the collections of the Studio Museum in Harlem. Kemp's =20 poetry and prose has appeared in Callaloo, Three Rivers Poetry =20 Journal, Agni Review, Mirage#4 Period(ical), River Styx, Nocturnes, =20 and Art Journal. In 2005 and 2007 Small Press Traffic commissioned two =20 of his plays/performances for the San Francisco Poets Theater. Kemp is =20 preparing chapbooks forthcoming from Portable Press at Yo-Yo Labs and =20 Publication Studios. He lives in Portland. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:49:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Catherine Daly Subject: Sacramento, CA: Reading Tomorrow Night MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Emmanuel Sigauke Hosts Catherine Daly and Margaret Hoehn Presented by Sacramento Poetry Center at Sacramento Poetry Center Monday, April 12, 2010 7:30 1719 25th St Sacramento, CA 95814 Phone: (916) 451-5569 -- All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:48:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Lewis Warsh Subject: THE BEST THING FOR YOU WOULD BE ME Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) THE BEST THING FOR YOU WOULD BE ME new work from the MFA program in creative writing Long Island University (Brooklyn) Friday, April 16, 5-7 The Bowery Poetry Club 308 Bowery (between Houston & Bleecker) F train to 2nd Ave., 6 train to Bleecker featuring Yani Gonzalez Mary Walker Tejan Green Jon Jenkins Liz Dalton Jessica Wedge Elspeth Macdonald Uche Nduka Tamara Lebron Eric Alter John Casquarelli Rachel Jackson Stephanie Gray Christine Francavilla Christine Gans Jon L. Peacock Alicia Berbenick Patia Braithwaite Tony Iantosca Gulay Isik Jhon Sanchez Wendi Williams Jamey Jones ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:19:41 -0700 Reply-To: derek beaulieu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: derek beaulieu Subject: new from No press: The Rose Letters by Erin Moure Comments: To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@invalid.domain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No press is proud to announce the publication of The Rose Letters by Erin Moure 24 pages, sewn binding. published in an edition of 50 copies (25 of which are for sale) $6 each. for more information, or to order copies, please email: derek beaulieu derek@housepress. ca http://epc.buffalo. edu/authors/ beaulieu/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:46:27 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Randolph Healy Subject: New from Wild Honey Press: Into Thick Hair by Ian Davidson Comments: To: "BRITISH-IRISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" , "UKPOETRY@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU" , poetry and poetics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm very happy to say that "Into Thick Hair", a chapbook by Ian Davidson, is now available from Wild Honey Press. Phrases are knitted, unpicked, reknitted, in a sequence pitting tension against gravity, plain against purl, lovingly crafted and full of holes that the sun shines through. Price zero, though you are welcome to make a donation to a charity of your choice. If you'd like a copy please email me or drop me a line at Randolph Healy, 16a Ballyman Road, Bray, County Wicklow, Ireland. More details including a pic and a quote at http://www.wildhoneypress.com/BOOKS/Into%20Thick%20Hair.htm Copies of "Via" by Andrew Brewerton http://www.wildhoneypress.com/BOOKS/Via.htm are still available on the same terms. best Randolph Apologies for cross-posting ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:07:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Patrick F. Durgin" Subject: Laura Elrick & Rodrigo Toscano on performing Hannah Weiner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friends of Kenning Editions, I invite you to read a new guest-blog by Laura Elrick and Rodrigo Toscano on performing Hannah Weiner's "Romeo and Juliet" at www.kenningeditions.com Permalink at http://www.kenningeditions.com/?p=241 See previous posts in the "Previews and Supplements" series, revolving around the many texts and authors represented in THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER: 1945-1985: Peter O'Leary on Robert Duncan, David Hadbawnik on Diane di Prima, Don Share on V. R. "Bunny" Lang, and posts on Theresa Hak Kyung Cha, Fiona Templeton, Pedro Pietri, and Jack Spicer. See also Thom Donovan's post to the Harriet blog, "What Is Poets Theater?" athttp://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2010/04/what-is-poets-theater/ Please help spread the word & support your local, independent bookseller with a purchase. */The Kenning Anthology of Poets Theater: 1945-1985/ * *Edited by Kevin Killian and David Brazil. * *POETRY/DRAMA/PERFORMANCE* *ISBN 978-0-9767364-5-5 $25.95* Order from Small Press Distribution Order from the press, via 2CO Order from Amazon With new interest in poetry as a performative art, and with prewar experiments much in mind, the young poets of postwar America infused the stage with the rhythms and shocks of their poetry. From the multidisciplinary nexus of Black Mountain, to the Harvard-based Cambridge Poets Theatre, to the West Coast Beats and San Francisco Renaissance, these energies manifested themselves all at once, and through the decades have continued to grow and mutate, innovating a form of writing that defies boundaries of genre. /THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER: 1945-1985/ documents the emergence, growth, and varied fortunes of the form over decades of American literary history, with a focus on key regional movements. The largest and most comprehensive anthology of its kind yet assembled, the volume collects classics of poets theater as well as rarities long out of print and texts from unpublished manuscripts and archives. It will be an indispensable reference for students of postwar American poetry and avant-garde theater. Among the poets featured in/ THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER/ are Charles Olson, John Ashbery, Frank O'Hara, Russell Atkins, Gregory Corso, Helen Adam, Michael McClure, James Broughton, Kenneth Koch, Jackson Mac Low, Lorenzo Thomas, Anne Waldman, ruth weiss, Ron Padgett, Hannah Weiner, Lew Welch, Sonia Sanchez, Joe Brainard, Bruce Andrews, Keith Waldrop, Rosmarie Waldrop, Bob Holman and Bob Rosenthal, Steve Benson, Ted Greenwald, Carla Harryman, Ntozake Shange, Bob Perelman, Kit Robinson, Robert Grenier, Alan Bernheimer, Charles Bernstein, Stephen Rodefer, Fiona Templeton, Kenward Elmslie, and Leslie Scalapino. Also included are previously unpublished plays by Jack Spicer, V.R. "Bunny" Lang, James Schuyler, Robert Duncan, Madeline Gleason, Diane di Prima, Barbara Guest, James Keilty, Theresa Hak Kyung Cha, Johanna Drucker, and Nada Gordon. The editors provide informative and provocative prefatory matter, including extensive notes on each play, as well as several that fall within the purview of the book but, for one reason or another, were omitted, as with Pedro Pietri's /The Masses Are Asses/ or Jessica Hagedorn's/ Tenement Lover/. Rounding out the book are contemporary classics: LeRoi Jones/Amiri Baraka's /Dutchman /and Kathy Acker's /The Birth of the Poet/. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:38:35 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Pam Brown Subject: Pam Brown's AUTHENTIC LOCAL published by soi 3 modern poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ______________________________________________________________ soi 3 modern poets, an imprint of papertiger media, presents AUTHENTIC LOCAL a new collection of poems by Pam Brown Visit these sites for more information : http://thedeletions.blogspot.com/ http://www.papertigermedia.com/soi3-modern-poets/pam-brown.html _______________________________________________________________ ____________________________________ blog : http://thedeletions.blogspot.com website : http://pambrownbooks.blogspot.com/ associate editor : http://jacketmagazine.com/ & continuing with Jacket2 in 2011 _____________________________________ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:58:12 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: nieuwland jeroen Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Had not yet seen it, but watched it yesterday. Beautiful movie= =0A=0A =0A=0AHad not yet seen it, but watched it yesterday. Beautiful movie= , thanks for mentioning it (although forget now what the original reason wa= s). =0A=0AI also felt the relationship was very close. But Falk's character= is also damned awkwardly masculine, unable very well to be gentle. Am thin= king for example about the welcome-back party for Rowlands' character. All = she needed was space and for everyone to get out but Falk insists on having= 'fun', and 'normal conversation'. Think it was an endearing inability to h= andle the situation, but not one that is helping his wife. =0A=0AAnother in= teresting moment is when she asks him if he loves her and he only mumbles. = Is that because he loves her so much he can't speak or is it because he is = not sure anymore because of the whole history, or maybe because he is no lo= nger sure who she is?=0A=0A=0A(Also funny, and very moving at the same time= - although a bit of an undeveloped sub-plot-thing going on there - is when= she tells her father to stand up for her and he physically gets up from hi= s chair)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Murat Ne= met-Nejat =0ATo: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0ASent: Fr= i, April 9, 2010 8:41:50 PM=0ASubject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under = the Influence"=0A=0Ai did not think it was intentional, but Cassevetes didn= 't care. he knew he=0Awas hiring people with very little experience and tha= t things like that=0Awould happen (occasionally, characters walk off the fr= ame); but he felt=0Atheir lack of experience gave the scene an edginess -pr= ovided people worked=0Avery hard- and the trade-off was worth it for him. T= hat is what I mean by=0A"bad cinema" -not intentionally bad -which perhaps = the French New Wave=0Athought, or perhaps not- but bad as a trade-off, a ne= cessary step to achieve=0Athe rawness. It is part -an integral part- of a p= rocess. In that way, it is=0Amore akin to mistakes which may occur in a liv= e t.v. comedy show, for=0Ainstance, or improvisational jazz.=0A=0AInteresti= ng, you saw Falk's position within the family as dominance; I=0Aexperienced= it more as protective of her, suddenly putting down the clamp on=0Aher whe= n certain limits are crossed (for example, in the spaghetti breakfast=0Asce= ne when she is touching the black guy, urging him to sing, and he is=0Afeel= ing uncomfortable). He does tell her later that he knew "she didn't mean=0A= anything by it," that it was her affectionate nature; but the guy didn't. I= =0Athought there was love, a lot of affection, a gentleness between the two= .=0ACiao,=0A=0AMurat=0A=0AOn Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:11 PM, skyplums@juno.com= wrote:=0A=0A> both goddard films mentioned are much ea= rlier band one of his first=0A> i saw woman when it first came out at wave= rly theater=0A> lovced it then and now under the influence of her lir life= her insanity=0A> her husband's dominance her role as a house wife=0A> one = thing that struck me when i first saw it=0A> was that i felt tho i knew fal= k etc that i was in a real situation=0A> i was still young grew up working= class etc=0A> but what also struck me due to cassavettes approach=0A> it = was the first film in which i saw the boom mike hanging over the actors=0A>= i believe in a kitchen scene - sadly that detracted from me at the time=0A= > and i always wondered if if were an accident which due to budgeting=0A> i= 'm sure it was ....bad cinema so diff from grade A films made with less= =0A> than grade B budgets=0A> tho in art terms BAD CINEMA has a diff connot= ation BAD in several ways=0A> purposely purposefully BAD=0A>=0A> --------= -- Original Message ----------=0A> From: Murat Nemet-Nejat =0A> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0A> Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' = "A Woman Under the Influence"=0A> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:32:05 -0400=0A>= =0A> Gerald,=0A>=0A> Well, that's what I am trying to do in my work. That's= why I was so taken=0A> with it. You may be right about the dates, but this= movie has a roughness=0A> in=0A> terms of technique- which nearer I think = to what Godard means by "bad=0A> cinema." What are the dates of My Life to = Live or Band of Outsiders?=0A> Cassavetes's film was made in 1972.=0A>=0A> = Maria, A Woman Under the Influence is not about alcoholism though the title= =0A> may suggest that. It deals with a woman's eccentric behavior which can= be=0A> taken as insanity, but which Cassavets insists it is not, but the r= esult of=0A> the rules of a society which will not let her be fully who she= is. Gena=0A> Rawlands, Peter Falk and the kids are something to see.=0A>= =0A> Many people in the film are family members. Rawland's mother plays her= =0A> mother, Cassaveteses's mother plays Falk's mother.=0A>=0A> The film ha= s absolutely stunning things in it. For example, a spaghetti=0A> brealfast = with about ten people around a table suddenly has two characters=0A> sudden= ly starting to burst into arias, in one case the person does not know=0A> t= he words... Wow!=0A>=0A> Worth a revisit.=0A>=0A> Ciao,=0A>=0A> Murat=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Gerald Schwar= tz >wrote:=0A>=0A> > Murat,=0A> >=0A> > Cassave= tes' neo-realism began long before W.U.T.I. and it began parallel=0A> to=0A= > > the French new wave-- with "Shadows" (56-59)... and was inspired by "La= =0A> > Tera Trema," "I Vitelloni," "Umberto D.," and "Bellissima".=0A> >=0A= > > He (like those) was not afraid to face reality; to look it straight in= =0A> the=0A> > face.=0A> >=0A> > Godard would later follow.=0A> >=0A> > I h= ave often wondered if there has (or will be) a poetry (or poetics)=0A> that= =0A> > would=0A> > approach his achievement, both in style and substance...= and=0A> improvization.=0A> >=0A> > Any examples?=0A> >=0A> > Till then,=0A= > > Gerald=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the = Influence. If one wants to=0A> > see=0A> > how technique, technology and pr= ofessionalism are ultimately briar=0A> patches=0A> > one should be wary off= -that art is created out the struggle with the=0A> > limitations of the to= ols one is using- one should see this movie. This=0A> was=0A> > the cinemat= ographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question=0A> the=0A> > = movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this work,= =0A> > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film= =0A> Verit=E9=0A> > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), refer= ential to other=0A> > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered a= round philosophical=0A> or=0A> > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film d= eals utterly with human=0A> > relationship, within a blue color family. As = a result, it has a raw=0A> > humanity=0A> > nothing less than breath taking= . "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving=0A> out=0A> > of the frame, for ins= tance, become incadescent pluses.=0A> >=0A> > Some bonus delights of the fi= lm: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical,=0A> > stunningly daring acting;= the sweet presences, in everything they do, of=0A> > their children.=0A> >= =0A> > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost=0A= > opposites=0A> > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist= style- the=0A> > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson= . Bresson did=0A> not=0A> > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-= professionals. He believed=0A> > truth derived out of a person whole being,= and he wanted to shoot, to=0A> > capture that. Cassavetes uses both profes= sionals and non, often in the=0A> same=0A> > scene, forcing the professiona= ls to react to and be captured by the raw=0A> > anxiety of their counterpar= ts. The film attempts to reach, in its=0A> totality,=0A> > to the sense of = being. All his directorial method consists of strategies=0A> to=0A> > achie= ve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had=0A> not= =0A> > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often di= d not=0A> > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in = a state of=0A> > panic- for that purpose.=0A> >=0A> > The film is also I th= ink ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the=0A> > Gena=0A> > Rawland= s character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed=0A> by=0A>= > the reality of her situation.=0A> >=0A> > Ciao,=0A> >=0A> > Murat=0A> >= =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha > >wrote:=0A> >=0A> > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "p= reverbs-complex" called "Things Done=0A> for=0A> >> Themselves" on his blog= =0A> >>=0A> >> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/=0A> >>=0A> >> including a "Not= e on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brief=0A> >> intro to a = 12 year project,=0A> >> now surfacing in an acceptable state.=0A> >>=0A> >>= I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested=0A> mi= ght=0A> >> go to:=0A> >>=0A> >> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-a= xial-poems=0A> >>=0A> >> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too.= =0A> >>=0A> >> GQ=0A> >>=0A> >> George Quasha=0A> >> www.quasha.com=0A> >> = www.baumgartnergallery.net=0A> >> www.stationhill.org=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>= =0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A> >> The Poetics List= is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:53:39 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think "mistakes" in Cassevetes's films arise out of the objective conditions he creates on the set. Giving the job of the cinematographer to = a novice is one of them. Another was the fact that people were never sure whe= n a scene was being rehearsed or shot. Cathevetes never answered questions about a character's motivation. He told the actor, including Gena his wife in actual life, to find for himself or herself. People say there was always a sense of giddy anxiety on the set. The actors remained on the edge. It is out of these conditions that both "mistakes" and raw emotions, the sense that things were occurring then, in real time, happened; it was not due to = a decision to be "improvisatory" or or "to make mistakes," as is often assume= d today. To me, it is fascinating to compare the kind of acting Cassavetes required to method acting. There is no delving "inside oneself," no delving into memory, which Cassavetes's method implies are illusions, a kind of solipsism, that if you "feel" something, others will feel it to. For him, i= t seems to me, "acting" was reacting to the moment, which is a different kind of acting -acting closer to being, "of the moment," "at the moment." Ciao, Murat On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Anny Ballardini wrote: > It seems that the entire movie is on YouTube, if you wish to watch some > scenes. I went back to see some parts since I had almost forgotten it. It > is > a movie that touches hard. She acts out what people are not supposed to > say, > probably not even think if they do not want to cross the borderline. > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Maria Damon wrote: > > > i saw this movie in college. i had no idea about any kind of experiment= al > > film. it had a deep effect on me. > > i've never forgotten it, though of course i've forgotten many specifics= . > > and i had no idea at the time that it > > was about alcoholism. > > > > > > Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote: > > > >> I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants = to > >> see > >> how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar > patches > >> one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the > >> limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This > was > >> the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no questio= n > >> the > >> movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this > work, > >> Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film > Verit=E9 > >> works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other > >> movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophic= al > >> or > >> moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human > >> relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw > >> humanity > >> nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving > out > >> of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. > >> > >> Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radica= l, > >> stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, = of > >> their children. > >> > >> Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost > >> opposites > >> -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the > >> director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did > not > >> believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He > believed > >> truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to > >> capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the > >> same > >> scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the ra= w > >> anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its > >> totality, > >> to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategi= es > >> to > >> achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who ha= d > >> not > >> shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did > not > >> know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state > of > >> panic- for that purpose. > >> > >> The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life th= e > >> Gena > >> Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbe= d > by > >> the reality of her situation. > >> > >> Ciao, > >> > >> Murat > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha >> >wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done > for > >>> Themselves" on his blog > >>> > >>> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ > >>> > >>> including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a > brief > >>> intro to a 12 year project, > >>> now surfacing in an acceptable state. > >>> > >>> I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested > might > >>> go to: > >>> > >>> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems > >>> > >>> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. > >>> > >>> GQ > >>> > >>> George Quasha > >>> www.quasha.com > >>> www.baumgartnergallery.net > >>> www.stationhill.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >>> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:59:20 GMT Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "skyplums@juno.com" Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 here i agree with yer assessment of falk was also thinking in terms of p= atriarchy withoin this type of labor oriente family as well as matriarc= hal how those roles change and revolve around and effect eachother = i grew up around many of these types and in one very similar tho nowher= e near as inttense ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Murat Nemet-Nejat To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:41:50 -0400 i did not think it was intentional, but Cassevetes didn't care. he knew = he was hiring people with very little experience and that things like that would happen (occasionally, characters walk off the frame); but he felt their lack of experience gave the scene an edginess -provided people wor= ked very hard- and the trade-off was worth it for him. That is what I mean b= y "bad cinema" -not intentionally bad -which perhaps the French New Wave thought, or perhaps not- but bad as a trade-off, a necessary step to ach= ieve the rawness. It is part -an integral part- of a process. In that way, it= is more akin to mistakes which may occur in a live t.v. comedy show, for instance, or improvisational jazz. Interesting, you saw Falk's position within the family as dominance; I experienced it more as protective of her, suddenly putting down the clam= p on her when certain limits are crossed (for example, in the spaghetti break= fast scene when she is touching the black guy, urging him to sing, and he is feeling uncomfortable). He does tell her later that he knew "she didn't = mean anything by it," that it was her affectionate nature; but the guy didn't= . I thought there was love, a lot of affection, a gentleness between the two= . Ciao, Murat On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:11 PM, skyplums@juno.com wr= ote: > both goddard films mentioned are much earlier band one of his first > i saw woman when it first came out at waverly theater > lovced it then and now under the influence of her lir life her insani= ty > her husband's dominance her role as a house wife > one thing that struck me when i first saw it > was that i felt tho i knew falk etc that i was in a real situation > i was still young grew up working class etc > but what also struck me due to cassavettes approach > it was the first film in which i saw the boom mike hanging over the ac= tors > i believe in a kitchen scene - sadly that detracted from me at the tim= e > and i always wondered if if were an accident which due to budgeting > i'm sure it was ....bad cinema so diff from grade A films made with= less > than grade B budgets > tho in art terms BAD CINEMA has a diff connotation BAD in several wa= ys > purposely purposefully BAD > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Murat Nemet-Nejat > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:32:05 -0400 > > Gerald, > > Well, that's what I am trying to do in my work. That's why I was so ta= ken > with it. You may be right about the dates, but this movie has a roughn= ess > in > terms of technique- which nearer I think to what Godard means by "bad > cinema." What are the dates of My Life to Live or Band of Outsiders? > Cassavetes's film was made in 1972. > > Maria, A Woman Under the Influence is not about alcoholism though the = title > may suggest that. It deals with a woman's eccentric behavior which can= be > taken as insanity, but which Cassavets insists it is not, but the resu= lt of > the rules of a society which will not let her be fully who she is. Gen= a > Rawlands, Peter Falk and the kids are something to see. > > Many people in the film are family members. Rawland's mother plays her= > mother, Cassaveteses's mother plays Falk's mother. > > The film has absolutely stunning things in it. For example, a spaghett= i > brealfast with about ten people around a table suddenly has two charac= ters > suddenly starting to burst into arias, in one case the person does not= know > the words... Wow! > > Worth a revisit. > > Ciao, > > Murat > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Gerald Schwartz >wrote: > > > Murat, > > > > Cassavetes' neo-realism began long before W.U.T.I. and it began para= llel > to > > the French new wave-- with "Shadows" (56-59)... and was inspired by = "La > > Tera Trema," "I Vitelloni," "Umberto D.," and "Bellissima". > > > > He (like those) was not afraid to face reality; to look it straight = in > the > > face. > > > > Godard would later follow. > > > > I have often wondered if there has (or will be) a poetry (or poetics= ) > that > > would > > approach his achievement, both in style and substance... and > improvization. > > > > Any examples? > > > > Till then, > > Gerald > > > > > > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one want= s to > > see > > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar > patches > > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with th= e > > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. Th= is > was > > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no quest= ion > the > > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in thi= s work, > > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film > Verit=E9 > > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to oth= er > > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosoph= ical > or > > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human > > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw > > humanity > > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors movi= ng > out > > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. > > > > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radi= cal, > > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do= , of > > their children. > > > > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost > opposites > > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the= > > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson d= id > not > > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He bel= ieved > > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, t= o > > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in t= he > same > > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the = raw > > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its > totality, > > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strate= gies > to > > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who = had > not > > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often di= d not > > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a sta= te of > > panic- for that purpose. > > > > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life = the > > Gena > > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absor= bed > by > > the reality of her situation. > > > > Ciao, > > > > Murat > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha > >wrote: > > > > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Do= ne > for > >> Themselves" on his blog > >> > >> poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a = brief > >> intro to a 12 year project, > >> now surfacing in an acceptable state. > >> > >> I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested= > might > >> go to: > >> > >> http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems > >> > >> Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. > >> > >> GQ > >> > >> George Quasha > >> www.quasha.com > >> www.baumgartnergallery.net > >> www.stationhill.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:27:29 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Murat I saw this film again a few months ago on turner cable--and first saw it when it came out-- what you write re Bresson and Cassavetes is interesting; however i think that though it may appear that the two are "aiming" so to speak for the sam= e effect-the methods are very different. Cassavetes wants to create an ambiance of spontaneity out of which a rough truth will rawly emerge. In many of his works, he has a carefully assembled ensemble cast, who through working together have learned to improvise off of each other. Cassavetes, himself a fine actor, wants to give room to the actor=97Bresson wants, in effect, to abolish the actor. Bresson worked for a long time with strictly non-actors. Beginning with suc= h a minimum of experience, Bresson seeks, not to =93create an actor=94 but ra= ther to as much as possible keep =93acting=94 from happening. Bresson would obsessively shoot even a simple scene, one =93actor=94 only, with a few lin= es of dialogue sometimes as many as 80 times--what he wanted to do with his actor= s was achieve what in the French language is regarded as an ideal--a perfect monotone. The lack of inflexion in speech is just as important as the lack of inflexion, of drama, in the physicality of the actors. This neutralityof effect was also a dream of Flaubert=92s--the wish to create a perfectly "grey" prose at one point i= n his writing. In a sense, this is also an ideal in the theater of Racine, a purity, a classical flatness of affect, out of which arises, for the Jansenist Bresson, the "moment of Grace." In keeping with this classicism and the extremes of the Jansenist concept of purity--that is, purity of language, action, camera angle, lighting--everything toned down to rigorously prepare for and create a mystical sense of a revelation, a moment of Grace which arises from the most minimal events in the "drama"--which can be, all the while, over al quite "dramatic" and often violent. The rigor of Bresson's is a spiritual rigor, concerned with, among others, = the very fundamental question: how does one show the moment of Grace as it occurs? The rigor of the method is linked to the trails through which the characters pass--it reaches its apotheosis in the incredible film Au Hasard Balthazar, in which the main character is a donkey--it is to the donkey tha= t the moment of Grace happens. The human characters are too =93fallen=94 to a= ttain this purity=97 IN a sense, in many of Bresson=92s films the tension is generated by the fo= cus on the exteriority, the surface, of the characters=97and this exteriority i= s to give away as few clues as possible to the inner life of the character as an individual=97again a spiritual purification of =93personality,=94 as act= ion making possible the flooding of inner light which is the Moment of Grace. A few years ago I saw a mini-retrospective of Bresson=92s works=97I had see= n them al before=97but this time they became more sharply etched in mind than all but a few films I have seen since. there is a fascinating documentary on the making of Bresson=92s film Pickpocket, in which the documentary film maker "catches up with" the actor= s some decades later--how, once having "starred" in a film did these previously non-actors--whom Bresson in a sense forbids to "act deal with this discovery of themselves, not only by others, but by themselves? Before he became a screen writer and later director, Paul Schrader wrote a very interesting book called Transcendental Cinema: Ozu, Bresson, Dreyer. Schrader himself was brought up in a fundamental religious family and did not see a film until he was 18 years old. The influence of fundamentalismcan be seen in a number of his films as both writer and director, perhaps most specifically in Scorcese's Taxi Driver, in which the character of Travis Bickle, played by Robert de Niro, is a ne example of the American fundamentalist conception o= f "regeneration through violence." Travis is seen preparing himself, purifying himself, before attempting to carry out his plan, first, foiled, to murder a political candidate and second, to kill the pimp and his colleagues who are exploiting the child prostitute played by Jody Foster. The film is fascinating in many scenes to watch how Schrader=92s fundamentalism is played off of Scorcese's Catholicism, which becomes most apparent in another film of violence, Raging Bull, in which the characterfi= nds regeneration as it were, through language. Travis keeps a diary and attempts to chart his struggle, his inward search and his development of a daily regime of physical discipline to turn him into a political, then a religious, compassionate, assassin. (Much of the film was loosely based on the story of Arthur Bremer and his Diaries, which were buried on the Lake Bluffs here in Milwaukee near where = I work outdoors a lot on my rubBEings etc. Bremer was last year released fro= m prison=97he had originally stalked Richard Nixon with intent to assassinate him during the 1972 Presidential election; Nixon being too well guarded, Bremer turned his attention and gun towards former Alabama Governor George Wallace, running as Third Party Candidate. Wallace was permanently paralyzed from the waist down. Bremer=92s Diaries were published after thei= r exhumation, and have remained out of print ever since. At one point in prison, Arthur Bremer was housed in the same units that the notorious Ed Gein was. A Woman Under the Influence very much struck me in the sense of awkwardness it conveyed. I think what really moved me most in the film was the sense o= f the family=92s love and acceptance of each other. In a way, the Gena Rowlan= ds character is in a state of grace which others can feel yet not understand. Failing to understand, they offer love, however clumsily, to make a safe place in the world for a person they sense may be out on an edge they can not see or imagine for themselves, for in protecting her, they find in a sense that sh= e is protecting them from an/the unknown. The wife/mother becomes a kind of =93Holy figure=94 as it were, in the way in which the =93Holy Fool=94 has b= een historically in a great many cultures. One of the exceptional aspects of the film, for me, was that the family sense the mystery an distance at time= s of the Gena character=97sense, in an uncanny way, the kind of loneliness sh= e might endure if it were not for the love they give her. There are moments o= f =93grace=94 as it were for this character in which she is being observed=97continually observed=97which can be as hard on one as being continually ignored=97and, knowing this, stil finds a way in which to marve= l at at what she alone is seeing, a sense of privacy in the midst of al this surrounding wave of protective love, which might otherwise be almost stifling. But then, thisis but one of many ways one might think of the film=97one might see it again and find something completely different . . On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote= : > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants to > see > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar patche= s > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This wa= s > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question t= he > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this wor= k, > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film Verit= =E9 > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophical = or > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw > humanity > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving ou= t > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. > > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical, > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, of > their children. > > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost opposit= es > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did no= t > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believed > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the sa= me > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its totalit= y, > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategies = to > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had n= ot > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did not > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state of > panic- for that purpose. > > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the > Gena > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed b= y > the reality of her situation. > > Ciao, > > Murat > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha >wrote: > > > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done f= or > > Themselves" on his blog > > > > poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ > > > > including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a brie= f > > intro to a 12 year project, > > now surfacing in an acceptable state. > > > > I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested mig= ht > > go to: > > > > http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems > > > > Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. > > > > GQ > > > > George Quasha > > www.quasha.com > > www.baumgartnergallery.net > > www.stationhill.org > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines > > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:54:18 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Paul Nelson Subject: Rae's Pulitzer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a book striking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects, array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the limits of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR2010041202750_2.html?sid=ST2010041202826 Paul E. Nelson Global Voices Radio SPLAB! C. City, WA 206.422.5002 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:31:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nana Zabic Subject: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio blurbs. If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. But there might be an event in the future. Thanks, Snezana ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:41:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear David, I completely agree with (and greatful for) your analysis of Bresson's films= , that through minimalism (of outward act and intonation) his films are tryin= g to reach, to project a moment of grace -a zero moment. That moment of grace arrived at by Balthazar at its moment of death also appears in a poem of mine from *The Structure of Escape: Au hazard* On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM, David Chirot wrot= e: > Dear Murat > > I saw this film again a few months ago on turner cable--and first saw it > when it came out-- > what you write re Bresson and Cassavetes is interesting; however i think > that though it may appear that the two are "aiming" so to speak for the > same > effect-the methods are very different. Cassavetes wants to create an > ambiance of spontaneity out of which a rough truth will rawly emerge. In > many of his works, he has a carefully assembled ensemble cast, who throug= h > working together have learned to improvise off of each other. Cassavetes, > himself a fine actor, wants to give room to the actor=97Bresson wants, in > effect, to abolish the actor. > > Bresson worked for a long time with strictly non-actors. Beginning with > such > a minimum of experience, Bresson seeks, not to =93create an actor=94 but = rather > to as much as possible keep =93acting=94 from happening. Bresson would > obsessively shoot even a simple scene, one =93actor=94 only, with a few l= ines > of > dialogue sometimes as many as 80 times--what he wanted to do with his > actors > was achieve what in the French language is regarded as an ideal--a perfec= t > monotone. The lack of inflexion in speech is just as important as the lac= k > of inflexion, of drama, in the physicality of the actors. This > neutralityof effect was also a dream > of Flaubert=92s--the wish to create a perfectly "grey" prose at one point= in > his writing. In a sense, this is also an ideal in the theater of > Racine, a purity, > a classical flatness of affect, out of which arises, for the Jansenist > Bresson, the "moment of Grace." In keeping with this classicism and the > extremes of the Jansenist concept of purity--that is, purity of language= , > action, camera angle, lighting--everything toned down to rigorously prepa= re > for and create a mystical sense of a revelation, a moment of Grace which > arises from the most minimal events in the "drama"--which can be, all the > while, over al quite "dramatic" and often violent. > The rigor of Bresson's is a spiritual rigor, concerned with, among others= , > the > very fundamental question: how does one show the moment of Grace as it > occurs? The rigor of the method is linked to the trails through which th= e > characters pass--it reaches its apotheosis in the incredible film Au Hasa= rd > Balthazar, in which the main character is a donkey--it is to the donkey > that > the moment of Grace happens. The human characters are too =93fallen=94 to > attain > this purity=97 > > IN a sense, in many of Bresson=92s films the tension is generated by the > focus > on the exteriority, the surface, of the characters=97and this exteriority= is > to give away as few clues as possible to the inner life of the character = as > an individual=97again a spiritual purification of =93personality,=94 as a= ction > making possible the flooding of inner light which is the Moment of Grace. > > A few years ago I saw a mini-retrospective of Bresson=92s works=97I had s= een > them al before=97but this time they became more sharply etched in mind th= an > all but a few films I have seen since. > > there is a fascinating documentary on the making of Bresson=92s film > Pickpocket, in which the documentary film maker "catches up with" the > actors > some decades later--how, once having "starred" in a film did these > previously non-actors--whom Bresson in a sense forbids to "act deal with > this discovery of themselves, not only by others, but by themselves? > Before he became a screen writer and later director, Paul Schrader wrote = a > very interesting book called Transcendental Cinema: Ozu, Bresson, Dreyer. > Schrader himself was brought up in a fundamental religious family and did > not see a film until he was 18 years old. The influence of > fundamentalismcan be seen in a number > of his films as both writer and director, perhaps most specifically in > Scorcese's Taxi Driver, in which the character of Travis Bickle, played b= y > Robert de Niro, is a ne example of the American fundamentalist conception > of > "regeneration through violence." Travis is seen preparing himself, > purifying himself, before attempting to carry out his plan, first, foiled= , > to murder a political candidate and second, to kill the pimp and his > colleagues who are exploiting the child prostitute played by Jody Foster. > The film is fascinating in many scenes to watch how Schrader=92s > fundamentalism is played off of Scorcese's Catholicism, which becomes mos= t > apparent in another film of violence, Raging Bull, in which the > characterfinds > regeneration as it were, through language. Travis keeps a diary and > attempts to chart his struggle, his inward search and his development of = a > daily regime of physical discipline to turn him into a political, then a > religious, compassionate, assassin. > > (Much of the film was loosely based on the story of Arthur Bremer and his > Diaries, which were buried on the Lake Bluffs here in Milwaukee near wher= e > I > work outdoors a lot on my rubBEings etc. Bremer was last year released > from > prison=97he had originally stalked Richard Nixon with intent to assassina= te > him during the 1972 Presidential election; Nixon being too well guarded, > Bremer turned his attention and gun towards former Alabama Governor Georg= e > Wallace, running as Third Party Candidate. Wallace was permanently > paralyzed from the waist down. Bremer=92s Diaries were published after th= eir > exhumation, and have remained out of print ever since. At one point in > prison, Arthur Bremer was housed in the same units that the notorious Ed > Gein was. > > > > A Woman Under the Influence very much struck me in the sense of awkwardne= ss > it conveyed. I think what really moved me most in the film was the sense > of > the family=92s love and acceptance of each other. In a way, the Gena Rowl= ands > character is in a state of grace which others can feel yet not > understand. Failing > to understand, they offer love, however clumsily, to make a safe place in > the world for a person they sense may be out on an edge they can not see = or > imagine for themselves, for in protecting her, they find in a sense that > she > is protecting them from an/the unknown. The wife/mother becomes a kind o= f > =93Holy figure=94 as it were, in the way in which the =93Holy Fool=94 has= been > historically in a great many cultures. One of the exceptional aspects of > the film, for me, was that the family sense the mystery an distance at > times > of the Gena character=97sense, in an uncanny way, the kind of loneliness = she > might endure if it were not for the love they give her. There are moments > of > =93grace=94 as it were for this character in which she is being > observed=97continually observed=97which can be as hard on one as being > continually ignored=97and, knowing this, stil finds a way in which to mar= vel > at at what she alone is seeing, a sense of privacy in the midst of al thi= s > surrounding wave of protective love, which might otherwise be almost > stifling. But then, thisis but one of many ways one might think of the > film=97one might see it again and find something completely different . . > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Murat Nemet-Nejat > wrote: > > > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants t= o > > see > > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar > patches > > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the > > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This > was > > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no question > the > > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this w= ork, > > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film > Verit=E9 > > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other > > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophica= l > or > > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human > > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw > > humanity > > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving > out > > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. > > > > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radical= , > > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, o= f > > their children. > > > > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost > opposites > > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the > > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did > not > > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He believ= ed > > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to > > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the > same > > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the raw > > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its > totality, > > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategie= s > to > > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who had > not > > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did n= ot > > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state = of > > panic- for that purpose. > > > > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life the > > Gena > > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbed > by > > the reality of her situation. > > > > Ciao, > > > > Murat > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha > >wrote: > > > > > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Done > for > > > Themselves" on his blog > > > > > > poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a > brief > > > intro to a 12 year project, > > > now surfacing in an acceptable state. > > > > > > I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested > might > > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems > > > > > > Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. > > > > > > GQ > > > > > > George Quasha > > > www.quasha.com > > > www.baumgartnergallery.net > > > www.stationhill.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:56:45 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: John Cassavetes' "A Woman Under the Influence" Comments: cc: David Chirot In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear David, I completely agree with (and greatful for) your analysis of Bresson's films= , that through minimalism (of outward act and intonation) his films are tryin= g to reach, to project a moment of grace -a zero moment. That moment of grace arrived at by Balthazar at its moment of death also appears in a poem of mine from *The Structure of Escape: " au hazard* *balthazar* how can you let a donkey die for your film. in a final gesture, a wandering lamb from nowhere, sniffing its feet? is it because it can not act?" The theme of the whole poem *The Structure of Escape* are inspired by Bresson's *A Prisoner Escaped*. *The Spiritual Life of Replicants* is replete with quotes from *The Art of the Cinematographer*, pointing to parallels between the "mechanical" actions of the robots and the ideal of "non-acting" Bresson pursues. I experienced A Woman Under the Influence very much like you did, that the love Gena Rowlands and Peter Falk have for each other, the way they protect their children (do you remember Falk repeatedly carrying one of the kids up the stairs to prevent her(?) from seeing the mother "distracted?) are at th= e sweet heart of this movie. I had not thought of it, but yes, the Gena character can be best seen as a "holy fool," with her own kind of grace, making people both unconfortable swith and drawn to her. It is very insightful of you to see that the Rowlands/Falk characters are being "continuously observed." Finally, isn't cinema the art of continually observing, seeing. In that respect, isn't the camera itself implicitly projecting the panopticon within which the two characters are contunously living? As you notice, despite that, they are able to create their own private world. The two big scenes in the movie -the spaghetti brealfast scene (which I love) and Rawlands return from the asylum- end up first Falk kicking everyone out of the house, despite the fact that in both cases he himself had created the crowded condition. Do you remember that eerie, mysterious long shot in which the couple is see= n in bed from the other side of the french doors, a very dim light half illuminating their movements? I agree with you about the cultural, stylistic (to me relatively superficial) distinctions you see between Bresson and Cassavetes' film. Wha= t unites them is that both of them are after a moment of "being." Bresson, as you say, as a Jansenist and classicist, sees the moment of purity (grace) achieved through a "chaste" withdrawal from visible action. Cassavetes sees it in the flotsam and jetsam of daily life, the gore of its messiness (a non-classical, very American value). In my view, Cassavetes' camera in Unde= r the Influence is as pure as Bresson's. They are French and American version= s of moments of "grace" as moments of "being." That's why "non-acting" is so important to Bresson, as in his own version of danger-tinged spontaneity is important to Cassavetes. Though I am aware of Schrader's interest in Bresson, I think the similarities between their works are superficial. Unless I am mistaken, death is Bresson movies alway occurs naturally, through suffering (for instance, with Balthazar and the village curate). Even A Prisoner Escaped has no death in it (murders occur in silence, off the camera, off the frame). I think a physically violent death, a la Taxi Driver, would be anathema to Bresson, exactly the kind of excess -acting out- his sensibilit= y is against. The moments of grace in Woman Under the Influence are gentle an= d occur in private, for instance, after the breakfast guests are kicked out, when Falk tells Rowlands "I know you mean nothing by it," or, at her return from the asylum, when everyone has left and she returns to her true state (herself) and the children gather around their parents (like the sheep gathering around Balthazar's expiring body...) Ciao, Murat On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote= : > Dear David, > > I completely agree with (and greatful for) your analysis of Bresson's > films, that through minimalism (of outward act and intonation) his films = are > trying to reach, to project a moment of grace -a zero moment. That moment= of > grace arrived at by Balthazar at its moment of death also appears in a po= em > of mine from *The Structure of Escape: > > Au hazard* > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM, David Chirot wr= ote: > >> Dear Murat >> >> I saw this film again a few months ago on turner cable--and first saw it >> when it came out-- >> what you write re Bresson and Cassavetes is interesting; however i think >> that though it may appear that the two are "aiming" so to speak for the >> same >> effect-the methods are very different. Cassavetes wants to create an >> ambiance of spontaneity out of which a rough truth will rawly emerge. I= n >> many of his works, he has a carefully assembled ensemble cast, who throu= gh >> working together have learned to improvise off of each other. Cassavetes= , >> himself a fine actor, wants to give room to the actor=97Bresson wants, i= n >> effect, to abolish the actor. >> >> Bresson worked for a long time with strictly non-actors. Beginning with >> such >> a minimum of experience, Bresson seeks, not to =93create an actor=94 but >> rather >> to as much as possible keep =93acting=94 from happening. Bresson woul= d >> obsessively shoot even a simple scene, one =93actor=94 only, with a few = lines >> of >> dialogue sometimes as many as 80 times--what he wanted to do with his >> actors >> was achieve what in the French language is regarded as an ideal--a perfe= ct >> monotone. The lack of inflexion in speech is just as important as the la= ck >> of inflexion, of drama, in the physicality of the actors. This >> neutralityof effect was also a dream >> of Flaubert=92s--the wish to create a perfectly "grey" prose at one poin= t in >> his writing. In a sense, this is also an ideal in the theater of >> Racine, a purity, >> a classical flatness of affect, out of which arises, for the Jansenist >> Bresson, the "moment of Grace." In keeping with this classicism and the >> extremes of the Jansenist concept of purity--that is, purity of languag= e, >> action, camera angle, lighting--everything toned down to rigorously >> prepare >> for and create a mystical sense of a revelation, a moment of Grace which >> arises from the most minimal events in the "drama"--which can be, all th= e >> while, over al quite "dramatic" and often violent. >> The rigor of Bresson's is a spiritual rigor, concerned with, among other= s, >> the >> very fundamental question: how does one show the moment of Grace as it >> occurs? The rigor of the method is linked to the trails through which t= he >> characters pass--it reaches its apotheosis in the incredible film Au >> Hasard >> Balthazar, in which the main character is a donkey--it is to the donkey >> that >> the moment of Grace happens. The human characters are too =93fallen=94 t= o >> attain >> this purity=97 >> >> IN a sense, in many of Bresson=92s films the tension is generated by the >> focus >> on the exteriority, the surface, of the characters=97and this exteriorit= y is >> to give away as few clues as possible to the inner life of the character >> as >> an individual=97again a spiritual purification of =93personality,=94 as = action >> making possible the flooding of inner light which is the Moment of Grace= . >> >> A few years ago I saw a mini-retrospective of Bresson=92s works=97I had = seen >> them al before=97but this time they became more sharply etched in mind t= han >> all but a few films I have seen since. >> >> there is a fascinating documentary on the making of Bresson=92s film >> Pickpocket, in which the documentary film maker "catches up with" the >> actors >> some decades later--how, once having "starred" in a film did these >> previously non-actors--whom Bresson in a sense forbids to "act deal with >> this discovery of themselves, not only by others, but by themselves? >> Before he became a screen writer and later director, Paul Schrader wrote= a >> very interesting book called Transcendental Cinema: Ozu, Bresson, Dreyer= . >> Schrader himself was brought up in a fundamental religious family and di= d >> not see a film until he was 18 years old. The influence of >> fundamentalismcan be seen in a number >> of his films as both writer and director, perhaps most specifically in >> Scorcese's Taxi Driver, in which the character of Travis Bickle, played = by >> Robert de Niro, is a ne example of the American fundamentalist conceptio= n >> of >> "regeneration through violence." Travis is seen preparing himself, >> purifying himself, before attempting to carry out his plan, first, foile= d, >> to murder a political candidate and second, to kill the pimp and his >> colleagues who are exploiting the child prostitute played by Jody Foster= . >> The film is fascinating in many scenes to watch how Schrader=92s >> fundamentalism is played off of Scorcese's Catholicism, which becomes mo= st >> apparent in another film of violence, Raging Bull, in which the >> characterfinds >> regeneration as it were, through language. Travis keeps a diary and >> attempts to chart his struggle, his inward search and his development of= a >> daily regime of physical discipline to turn him into a political, then a >> religious, compassionate, assassin. >> >> (Much of the film was loosely based on the story of Arthur Bremer and hi= s >> Diaries, which were buried on the Lake Bluffs here in Milwaukee near whe= re >> I >> work outdoors a lot on my rubBEings etc. Bremer was last year released >> from >> prison=97he had originally stalked Richard Nixon with intent to assassin= ate >> him during the 1972 Presidential election; Nixon being too well guarded, >> Bremer turned his attention and gun towards former Alabama Governor Geor= ge >> Wallace, running as Third Party Candidate. Wallace was permanently >> paralyzed from the waist down. Bremer=92s Diaries were published after t= heir >> exhumation, and have remained out of print ever since. At one point in >> prison, Arthur Bremer was housed in the same units that the notorious Ed >> Gein was. >> >> >> >> A Woman Under the Influence very much struck me in the sense of >> awkwardness >> it conveyed. I think what really moved me most in the film was the sens= e >> of >> the family=92s love and acceptance of each other. In a way, the Gena >> Rowlands >> character is in a state of grace which others can feel yet not >> understand. Failing >> to understand, they offer love, however clumsily, to make a safe place i= n >> the world for a person they sense may be out on an edge they can not see >> or >> imagine for themselves, for in protecting her, they find in a sense that >> she >> is protecting them from an/the unknown. The wife/mother becomes a kind = of >> =93Holy figure=94 as it were, in the way in which the =93Holy Fool=94 ha= s been >> historically in a great many cultures. One of the exceptional aspects o= f >> the film, for me, was that the family sense the mystery an distance at >> times >> of the Gena character=97sense, in an uncanny way, the kind of loneliness= she >> might endure if it were not for the love they give her. There are moment= s >> of >> =93grace=94 as it were for this character in which she is being >> observed=97continually observed=97which can be as hard on one as being >> continually ignored=97and, knowing this, stil finds a way in which to ma= rvel >> at at what she alone is seeing, a sense of privacy in the midst of al th= is >> surrounding wave of protective love, which might otherwise be almost >> stifling. But then, thisis but one of many ways one might think of the >> film=97one might see it again and find something completely different . = . >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Murat Nemet-Nejat >> wrote: >> >> > I just saw John Cassavetes' A Woman Under the Influence. If one wants = to >> > see >> > how technique, technology and professionalism are ultimately briar >> patches >> > one should be wary off -that art is created out the struggle with the >> > limitations of the tools one is using- one should see this movie. This >> was >> > the cinematographer Mike Ferris's first ever film. There is no questio= n >> the >> > movie (made in 1974) is inspired by French Film Verit=E9. But in this >> work, >> > Cassavetes takes it to a completely new dimension. Most French film >> Verit=E9 >> > works were focused on politics or ideas (Godard), referential to other >> > movies (Truffaut or Godard in Breathless), centered around philosophic= al >> or >> > moral themes (Rohmer). Cassavetes's film deals utterly with human >> > relationship, within a blue color family. As a result, it has a raw >> > humanity >> > nothing less than breath taking. "Mistakes" in the film, actors moving >> out >> > of the frame, for instance, become incadescent pluses. >> > >> > Some bonus delights of the film: Gena Rawlands and Peter Falk's radica= l, >> > stunningly daring acting; the sweet presences, in everything they do, = of >> > their children. >> > >> > Even though on the surface seemingly completely different, almost >> opposites >> > -Cassavetes' abondon as opposed to the other's minimalist style- the >> > director Cassavetes' reminds me of most is Robert Bresson. Bresson did >> not >> > believe in "actors" and used almost always non-professionals. He >> believed >> > truth derived out of a person whole being, and he wanted to shoot, to >> > capture that. Cassavetes uses both professionals and non, often in the >> same >> > scene, forcing the professionals to react to and be captured by the ra= w >> > anxiety of their counterparts. The film attempts to reach, in its >> totality, >> > to the sense of being. All his directorial method consists of strategi= es >> to >> > achieve that. For instance, he seems to have chose Mike Ferris -who ha= d >> not >> > shot a full film before and confesses during the filming he often did >> not >> > know how to shoot a scene and was forced to improvise often in a state >> of >> > panic- for that purpose. >> > >> > The film is also I think ambiguous in its attitude towards the life th= e >> > Gena >> > Rawlands character is leading; nevertheless, one is completely absorbe= d >> by >> > the reality of her situation. >> > >> > Ciao, >> > >> > Murat >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:37 AM, George Quasha > > >wrote: >> > >> > > Jerry Rothenberg has posted my "preverbs-complex" called "Things Don= e >> for >> > > Themselves" on his blog >> > > >> > > poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/ >> > > >> > > including a "Note on preverbs and axial poetics" which serves as a >> brief >> > > intro to a 12 year project, >> > > now surfacing in an acceptable state. >> > > >> > > I have posted an updated version of that Note, so anyone interested >> might >> > > go to: >> > > >> > > http://www.quasha.com/poetry/preverbs-and-axial-poems >> > > >> > > Some other preverb-complexes are posted there too. >> > > >> > > GQ >> > > >> > > George Quasha >> > > www.quasha.com >> > > www.baumgartnergallery.net >> > > www.stationhill.org >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:32:51 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: April 18 @ the Iowa Writers' House MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JENNIFER KARMIN LUCAS PINGEL=20 ISSAC SULLIVAN Sunday, April 18th 7pm at The University of Iowa Writers' House 111 Church Street, Iowa City http://at-lamp.its.uiowa.edu/virtualwu/index.php/main/fellows JENNIFER KARMIN=E2=80=99s text-sound epic, Aaaaaaaaaaalice, was published b= y Flim Forum Press in 2010. Her multidisciplinary projects have been presen= ted at festivals, artist-run spaces, community centers, and on city streets= across the U.S., Japan, and Kenya. Walking Poem, a collaborative street p= roject, is featured online at How2. At home in Chicago, she curates the Re= d Rover Series and is co-founder of the public art group Anti Gravity Surpr= ise. =20 http://aaaaaaaaaaalice.blogspot.com LUCAS PINGEL is the author of two chapbooks: The Storm That Killed The Tree= (Pudding House, 2008) and All Types of Breath Included (Further Adventures= , 2009). His work has appeared in The William and Mary Review, The Green Hi= lls Literary Lantern, and Ellipsis, among others. He is an assistant profes= sor of English at St. Catherine University in Minneapolis.=20 http://furtheradventurespress.blogspot.com ISSAC SULLIVAN's videos and installations aim to hold the material and abst= ract in equal measure and explore their convergence by foregrounding the mu= sicality of clashing positivisms. http://www.isaac-sullivan.com =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:11:52 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sarah Rosenthal Subject: Headlands Center for the Arts - Reading & Open House MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you'll be in the Bay Area this weekend... Headlands Spring Open House: This Sunday, April 18, 12-5pm =A0 Visual artists open their studios to the public and writers read their work= . =A0 Fantastic lunch available in the caf=E9 (Building 944 - one of the main bui= ldings). =A0 1:30-2:45pm: reading in East Wing of Building 944: Ariel Goldberg LJ Moore Megan Pruiett Sarah Rosenthal =A0 In addition to poetry, art, and food, enjoy=A0beach-walking, trail-hiking, = wildflower-gazing, bird-watching, and fresh-air-breathing. Family-friendly! Details: http://www.headlands.org/event_detail.asp?key=3D20&eventkey=3D674 Guided tour of Headlands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDlAvu1MAQ7g From the North: Highway 101 South to the fourth Sausalito exit, the last exit before=A0Gold= en Gate Bridge. Turn right toward Sausalito at=A0stop sign. Take first left= turn to tunnel. Follow Bunker Road for 2 miles. Fork left onto Field Road.= Headlands Center for the Arts main buildings are on=A0left-hand side of=A0= road. To get to Building 960, where many studios are,=A0travel up=A0road pa= st=A0Gymnasium building on=A0left, past=A0entrance to=A0Nike Missile Base e= ntrance on=A0right. Building 960 is at=A0top of=A0hill on=A0right-hand side= of road. From the South: Highway 101 North to Alexander Avenue exit, just after=A0Golden Gate Bridge= . Bear right, toward Sausalito. Take first left turn to=A0tunnel. Then cont= inue with directions as described above. By Bus: Sundays and holidays MUNI Bus #76 runs every hour between 9:30 a.m and 5:30= p.m. Thanks, Sarah =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 03:57:27 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Adam Fieled Subject: "Nirvana and the Sense of Revolutions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This piece was written for Todd Swift's blog Eyewear. It concerns Nirvana, the rock band that showed up in 1991 and established Alternative Rock as the dominant trend in popular music. Many of the lessons derived from this piece apply also to poetry: http://www.toddswift.blogspot.com/2010/04/fieled-on-nirvana-revolutions.html Many thanks, spring is here again.... Adam ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:02:08 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Some poems in issue 2 of Cleaves Comments: To: British Poetics , Poetryetc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some poems in issue 2 of Cleaves http://www.cleavesjournal.com/issue2/northwest/northwest.htm My thanks to editor Bill Drennan. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:40:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Eric Elshtain Subject: Beard of Bees Celebrates the Sonnet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beard of Bees is pleased to present artifacts from an evening of sonneteering: http://beardofbees.com/pubs/Sonneteering.pdf Enjoy! Eric Elshtain Editor Beard of Bees Press http://www.beardofbees.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:48:23 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Caleb Cluff Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer In-Reply-To: <467963.40046.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Another great (greater) poet acknowledged: - Special citation: Hank William= s for his craftsmanship as a songwriter who expressed universal feelings wi= th poignant simplicity and played a pivotal role in transforming country mu= sic into a major musical and cultural force in American life. Caleb=20 -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Beh= alf Of Paul Nelson Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2010 7:54 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Rae's Pulitzer So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a book str= iking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that=20 are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the=20 first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College=20 Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects,=20 array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the=20 Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of=20 poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the limits=20 of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR201004120= 2750_2.html?sid=3DST2010041202826 Paul E. Nelson=20 Global Voices Radio SPLAB! C. City, WA 206.422.5002 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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On 4/12/10 6:31 PM, "Nana Zabic" wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole > lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > blurbs. > > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or > form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. > But there might be an event in the future. > > Thanks, > > Snezana > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:16:31 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: new(ish) on rob's clever blog -- Camille Martin, Sonnets -- rob curates the Globe & Mail book blog, April 2010 -- Ryan Murphy, The Redcoats -- the ottawa international writers festival; spring 2010 -- The Age of Orphans, Laleh Khadivi -- 12 or 20 (small press) questions: Cameron Anstee on Apt. 9 Press -- Joshua Marie Wilkinson, Selenography -- 12 or 20 (small press) questions: Angela Carr on Tente Press -- Suzanne Buffam, The Irrationalist -- rob (+ Major, Kroetsch) launches in Calgary, Edmonton -- fools in love, happily -- Erin Moure, my beloved wager: Essays from a Writing Practice -- 12 or 20 (small press) questions: Jenna Butler on Rubicon Press -- The Lost Boys (a very short story) -- 12 or 20 (small press) questions: with Janet Vickers, lipstick press -- the ottawa small press book fair; spring 2010 edition, June 26 -- a question of questions: watching the "12 or 20 (second series)" -- Christine Hume's SHOT -- 12 or 20 (small press) questions: Amanda Earl on AngelHousePress -- feature on Edmonton poet Douglas Barbour at Jacket (ed. rob mclennan) -- 12 or 20 questions: with Michael Eden Reynolds -- sentence: a journal of prose poetics #7 -- interview with Tom Fowler -- new from above/ground press: The Peter F. Yacht Club -- How does one begin? : a poetics at turning forty -- 12 or 20 questions: with Nino Ricci -- 12 or 20 questions: with Sandra Doller -- 12 or 20 questions: with Dave Margoshes -- above/ground press: state of the union -- 12 or 20 questions: with Jeff Latosik -- Ongoing notes: early March, 2010; -- 12 or 20 questions: with Eleonore Shonmaier -- George Bowering, The Box -- ottawater #6 now on-line; -- mclennan launches 2 new books (novel, poetry) at Dusty Owl -- Angela Carr, The Rose Condordance -- Norma Cole, Where Shadows Will: Selected Poems 1988-2000 -- ongoing notes: mid-February, 2010 -- Catherine Wagner, Miss America and Macular Hole www.robmclennan.blogspot.com + some other new things at ottawa poetry newsletter www.ottawapoetry.blogspot.com + some other new things at the Chaudiere Booksblog www.chaudierebooks.blogspot.com -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:29:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: George Quasha Subject: Franz Kamin (1941-2010) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed With deep sadness I have to report that our friend of decades Franz Kamin died in a car crash with another composer friend James Brody on Sunday; Brody, Franz's old close friend, was driving him to the country when the unexplained accident occurred. Franz was in my view a great artist--visionary composer, poet, writer of unexampled prose, extraordinary pianist and organizer of powerful events, inspiration and guide to many many people--far too much to say now--and I will say more later when the impact of this lets me. For many of us Franz was a cornerstone of a big imaginal building we do everything in our work to live inside of. George Quasha www.quasha.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:27:49 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Hugh Behm-Steinberg Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Nana, I'm part of a new music group called The Crank Ensemble (http://www.crankensemble.com/). I'm not in charge or anything, I just turn a crank. If folks would like to see us, and are in the bay area, come visit us at the Makers Fair May 22-23. Best, Hugh Behm-Steinberg ________________________________ From: Nana Zabic To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 3:31:23 PM Subject: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) Hi All, I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio blurbs. If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. But there might be an event in the future. Thanks, Snezana ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:48:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Gabriel Gudding Subject: vladimir mayakovsky - april 14 1930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mayakovsky shot himself on this day 80 years ago. A and B and C and D and E and F and H. Pity. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:06:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Cecelia Belle Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer In-Reply-To: <7FA98C537FC7E943BA5CC7521E3548D40122271EB021@NUCEMB02.aus.aunty.abc.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just had to write in to congratulate, Rae, and don't know how to get a hold of her; to say David Bromige was a Huge fan of Rae's, and often quoted her line, " the smallest distance inexhaustible". ( Hope I got it right.) He would be so pleased. So am I. Cecelia Belle Bromige -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Caleb Cluff Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:48 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer Another great (greater) poet acknowledged: - Special citation: Hank Williams for his craftsmanship as a songwriter who expressed universal feelings with poignant simplicity and played a pivotal role in transforming country music into a major musical and cultural force in American life. Caleb -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2010 7:54 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Rae's Pulitzer So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a book striking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects, array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the limits of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR2010041202 750_2.html?sid=ST2010041202826 Paul E. Nelson Global Voices Radio SPLAB! C. City, WA 206.422.5002 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The information contained in this email and any attachment is confidential and may contain legally privileged or copyright material. It is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:47:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: Franz Kamin (1941-2010) In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit very sorry to hear it, George. take care. On 4/13/10 4:29 PM, "George Quasha" wrote: > With deep sadness I have to report that our friend of decades Franz > Kamin died in a car crash with another composer friend James Brody on > Sunday; Brody, Franz's old close friend, was driving him to the > country when the unexplained accident occurred. Franz was in my view > a great artist--visionary composer, poet, writer of unexampled prose, > extraordinary pianist and organizer of powerful events, inspiration > and guide to many many people--far too much to say now--and I will > say more later when the impact of this lets me. For many of us Franz > was a cornerstone of a big imaginal building we do everything in our > work to live inside of. > > > George Quasha > > www.quasha.com > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:51:39 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Patrick Lovelace Subject: Re: Franz Kamin (1941-2010) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7C144) Amazing sadness. I'll always recall when I first read him--the experience was endlessly edifying--& I never stopped. Scrbble Death, particularly, stands out as an enduring & continually impressive achievement. Best wishes to all. On Apr 13, 2010, at 4:29 PM, George Quasha wrote: > With deep sadness I have to report that our friend of decades Franz > Kamin died in a car crash with another composer friend James Brody > on Sunday; Brody, Franz's old close friend, was driving him to the > country when the unexplained accident occurred. Franz was in my view > a great artist--visionary composer, poet, writer of unexampled > prose, extraordinary pianist and organizer of powerful events, > inspiration and guide to many many people--far too much to say now-- > and I will say more later when the impact of this lets me. For many > of us Franz was a cornerstone of a big imaginal building we do > everything in our work to live inside of. > > > George Quasha > > www.quasha.com > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:59:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Larry O. Dean" Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Nana, There's, er, me. Also David Berman from the Silver Jews, Joe Pernice of The Pernice Brothers, Wyn Cooper. I know there's more, these are just off the top of my head. Larry On Mon, April 12, 2010 5:31 pm, Nana Zabic wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole > lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > blurbs. > > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or > form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. > But there might be an event in the future. > > Thanks, > > Snezana > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > -- Larry O. Dean Poetry Center of Chicago 37 S. Wabash Chicago, IL 60603 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:20:25 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII I do both, record and play out a fair amount, various instruments and techniques. It's not dabbling - it takes far too much practice. - Alan == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com == ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:03:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) We (mIEKAL aND + Elizabeth Was) had an art / noise / performance band that changed it's name every year for about 15-20 years. The majority of the audio was improvised & ranged from jazz improv to industrial noise depending on the gig. We made a lot of invented instruments out of things like gourds (which we grew) to playing a huge array of winds, percussion,strings, computers & homemade electronics. As well the ensemble ranged from duo to settings such as a piece called Post Punk Martian Big Band where we got a lot of local punk kids to play on instruments they had never played before. Text, film projects, live painting, movement, costumes were always part of our shows. When Elizabeth died in 2004 I stopped playing live music altogether & have focussed on audio collage & microsound using a Mac workstation. Here's a list of partial list of our names: Two Dogs in Paris Twa Digs in Paris Qwa Digs under Paris's Qwa Digs Never Parish Aquatics Ever Tarnish Semantics Could Vanish Floating Concrete Octopus Wisconsin Conservatory of Noise The Driftless Ensemble of Botanical Apparitions Hope this helps. ~mIEKAL Academy On Apr 13, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Ruth Lepson wrote: > Hi, Nana, > > I'm in a group called low road with sax player Noah Preminger & > keyboard > player Eric Lane. They do jazz settings of my poems & I read them. > > > Thanks for asking. > > > On 4/12/10 6:31 PM, "Nana Zabic" wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've >> read >> and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least >> did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole >> lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, >> although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio >> blurbs. >> >> If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or >> form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't >> have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. >> But there might be an event in the future. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Snezana >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & >> sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =!= Data Visualization for the Synaptically Inspired http://filevillage.info ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:05:51 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: Pulitzer for Hank Williams!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One of US America's greatest songwriters was awarded posthumously with the Lifetime Achievement Award. Few American writers in any genre have expressed loneliness and "lonesomeness" with the terse, harsh lyricism of Hank Williams. Hank Williams used the simplest words to express the most complex human emotions with a directness that knew no boundaries of genre--his songs have been covered by countless musicians worldwide, and he's inspired and continues to inspire writers not only of songs but of poetry, fiction and non-fiction as well. One of the best deserving Pulitzers ever awarded! Combine Robert Johnson and Hank Williams and you have --the basis of not only rock'n' roll but tens of thousands of singers-songwriters and musicians, poets, writers of al genres--given material that is still being mined--a deep and rich inheritance, a bed rock and soil for endless growth-- Sembrar la memoria! david-bc http://chirotzerozine.blogspot.com http://davidbaptistechirot.blogspot.com http://nosobrasotros.blogspot.com > > I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" > Hear that lonesome whippoorwill, He sounds too blue to fly. The midnight train is whining low, I'm so lonesome I could cry. I've never seen a night so long When time goes crawling by. The moon just went behind a cloud To hide its face and cry. Did you ever see a robin weep, When leaves began to die? That means he's lost the will to live, I'm so lonesome I could cry. The silence of a falling star Lights up a purple sky. And as I wonder where you are I'm so lonesome I could cry. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:55:11 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Iris Law Subject: Lantern Review Submissions Deadline EXTENDED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *Lantern Review*, a new online journal of Asian American poetry, seeks submissions of poetry, translations, visual art, essays on poetics, and collaborative work for its inaugural issue. Submissions are now being accepted through *April 29, 2010* via our online form. Please visit www.lanternreview.com to read our guidelines in detail. *About Us * *Lantern Review: A Journal of Asian American Poetry* is published in two formats: a twice-annual electronic magazine, and a blogwhich our team of staff writers updates weekly with interviews, reviews, literary news, writing prompts, and more. We aim to serve the literary community by providing a virtual space in which to promote and discuss the work of contemporary Asian American poets and artists. *LR* seeks to publish expertly crafted work in a variety of forms and aesthetics, including traditional and experimental pieces, hybrid forms, multimedia work, and new translations. We welcome pieces from anglophone writers of all ethnic backgrounds whose work has a vested interest in issues relevant to the Asian diaspora in North America, as well as work created collaboratively in a community context. *Contact Information* editors@lanternreview.com Iris A. Law, Editor; Mia Ayumi Malhotra, Associate Editor -- Iris A. Law MFA Candidate Department of Creative Writing University of Notre Dame (609) 560-2011 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:29:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ann Stephenson Subject: KOSTAS ANAGNOPOULOS /// READY SET READINGS at Whitespace Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain READY SET READINGS at Whitespace KOSTAS ANAGNOPOULOS=20 =20 Friday April 16th=20 8:00pm=20 =20 Kostas Anagnopoulos is the founding editor of Insurance Editions, and his= chapbooks=20 include Daydream, Irritant, and Various Sex Acts. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit joe mcphee william parker cecil taylor henry grimes musicians who are poets many more like that in jazz world On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:15:06 -0400 Ruth Lepson writes: > Hi, Nana, > > I'm in a group called low road with sax player Noah Preminger & > keyboard > player Eric Lane. They do jazz settings of my poems & I read them. > > > Thanks for asking. > > > On 4/12/10 6:31 PM, "Nana Zabic" wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've > read > > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at > least > > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a > whole > > lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, > > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > > blurbs. > > > > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape > or > > form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I > don't > > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this > phenomenon. > > But there might be an event in the future. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Snezana > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & > > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:43:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: <20100414.140627.3988.51.skyplums@juno.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit & henry grimes has a huge number of poems looking for a press On 4/14/10 4:36 AM, "steve dalachinsky" wrote: > joe mcphee william parker cecil taylor henry grimes > musicians who are poets many more like that in jazz world > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:15:06 -0400 Ruth Lepson > writes: >> Hi, Nana, >> >> I'm in a group called low road with sax player Noah Preminger & >> keyboard >> player Eric Lane. They do jazz settings of my poems & I read them. >> >> >> Thanks for asking. >> >> >> On 4/12/10 6:31 PM, "Nana Zabic" wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've >> read >>> and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at >> least >>> did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a >> whole >>> lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, >>> although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio >>> blurbs. >>> >>> If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape >> or >>> form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I >> don't >>> have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this >> phenomenon. >>> But there might be an event in the future. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Snezana >>> >>> ================================== >>> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & >>> sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: >> http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:53:16 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Franz Kamin (1941-2010) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I saw him play Ives's Concord Sonatas at a private house concert a few years ago. Sublime. A really wonderful experience. Very sad, so very sad. Patrick Lovelace wrote: > Amazing sadness. I'll always recall when I first read him--the > experience was endlessly edifying--& I never stopped. > > Scrbble Death, particularly, stands out as an enduring & continually > impressive achievement. > > Best wishes to all. > > > > On Apr 13, 2010, at 4:29 PM, George Quasha > wrote: > >> With deep sadness I have to report that our friend of decades Franz >> Kamin died in a car crash with another composer friend James Brody on >> Sunday; Brody, Franz's old close friend, was driving him to the >> country when the unexplained accident occurred. Franz was in my view >> a great artist--visionary composer, poet, writer of unexampled prose, >> extraordinary pianist and organizer of powerful events, inspiration >> and guide to many many people--far too much to say now--and I will >> say more later when the impact of this lets me. For many of us Franz >> was a cornerstone of a big imaginal building we do everything in our >> work to live inside of. >> >> >> George Quasha >> >> www.quasha.com >> >> >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:57:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Cassandra Laity Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline She's on facebook-- she "friended" me, I feel so honored. Friend her and = you can "get a hold of her." cassandra=20 Cassandra Laity=20 Associate Professor Co-Editor Modernism/Modernity=20 Drew University=20 Madison, NJ 07940 >>> Cecelia Belle 04/14/10 6:29 PM >>> Just had to write in to congratulate, Rae, and don't know how to get a = hold of her; to say David Bromige was a Huge fan of Rae's, and often quoted her line, " the smallest distance inexhaustible". ( Hope I got it right.) He would be so pleased. So am I. Cecelia Belle Bromige -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Caleb Cluff Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:48 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer Another great (greater) poet acknowledged: - Special citation: Hank = Williams for his craftsmanship as a songwriter who expressed universal feelings = with poignant simplicity and played a pivotal role in transforming country = music into a major musical and cultural force in American life. Caleb=20 -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2010 7:54 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Rae's Pulitzer So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a book striking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that=20 are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the=20 first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College=20 Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects,=20 array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the=20 Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of=20 poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the limits=20 of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR201004120= 2 750_2.html?sid=3DST2010041202826 Paul E. Nelson=20 Global Voices Radio SPLAB! C. City, WA 206.422.5002 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The information contained in this email and any attachment is confidential and may contain legally privileged or copyright material. It is intended = only for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient of = this email, you are not permitted to disseminate, distribute or copy this email or any attachments. If you have received this message in error, please = notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. The ABC does = not represent or warrant that this transmission is secure or virus free. Before opening any attachment you should check for viruses. The ABC's liability = is limited to resupplying any email and attachments. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:59:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "J. Michael Mollohan" Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been a musician on and off for roughly 50 years. I still perform live occasionally and record the odd song now and then. Currently I'm trying to figure out what to do with some of Alan Sondheim's crystal radio recordings. I have a site for music: http://pages.suddenlink.net/ideas What was the question? ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:23:09 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Patrick F. Durgin" Subject: Aldon Nielsen on Lorenzo Thomas' "Two One-Act Plays" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The series of "Previews & Supplements" of/to THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER: 1945-1985 concludes with guest-blogger Aldon Nielsen on Lorenzo Thomas' "Two One-Act Plays." See http://www.kenningeditions.com for the whole series, including posts on Diane di Prima, V. R. "Bunny" Lang, Pedro Pietri, Theresa Hak Kyung Cha, and others, some of which are culled right out of the book, some of which offer exclusive texts and graphics (e.g. a stunning archival photograph of Steve Buscemi in Fiona Templeton's "Against Agreement"). THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER is edited by Kevin Killian and David Brazil and distributed by Small Press Distribution; ask for it at your local, independent bookseller's or your hometown library. Online, the book is available from Small Press Distribution , Amazon , or postage paid by ordering directly from the press . Further discounts are available by subscription to Kenning Editions. With new interest in poetry as a performative art, and with prewar experiments much in mind, the young poets of postwar America infused the stage with the rhythms and shocks of their poetry. These energies manifested themselves all at once, and through the decades have continued to grow and mutate, innovating a form of writing that defies boundaries of genre. THE KENNING ANTHOLOGY OF POETS THEATER: 1945-1985 documents the emergence, growth, and varied fortunes of the form over decades of American literary history, with a focus on key regional movements. The largest and most comprehensive anthology of its kind yet assembled, the volume collects classics, long out of print rarities and texts from unpublished manuscripts. Copiously annotated, it will be an indispensable reference for students of postwar American poetry and avant garde theater. Included are works by Jack Spicer, John Ashbery, Michael McClure, Diane di Prima, Amiri Baraka, Hannah Weiner, Barbara Guest, Sonia Sanchez, Theresa Hak Kyung Cha, Carla Harryman, Charles Bernstein, Leslie Scalapino, Kathy Acker, and many others. A unique feature of the book is its editors' notes even on works omitted but falling within the anthology's purview, including Pedro Pietri's The Masses Are Asses and Jessica Hagedorn's Tenement Lover. Erudite yet highly readable, the plays and prefatory matter offer a highly entertaining glimpse of the ways in which poets have used the theater to widen their audience, develop new techniques, or negotiate their aesthetic community's precepts and desires. In the process, some of the most mature and progressive work within and about the theater was produced, and is at last gathered in one place. The press is working on three new titles this summer: AMBIENT PARKING LOT, by Pamela Lu; SOME MATH, by Bill Luoma; and a chapbook by Tan Lin. Thanks for spreading the word! ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:25:04 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: <20100414.140627.3988.51.skyplums@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 steve dalchinsky, clark coolidge, drew gardner... murat On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:36 AM, steve dalachinsky wrote: > joe mcphee william parker cecil taylor henry grimes > musicians who are poets many more like that in jazz world > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:15:06 -0400 Ruth Lepson > writes: > > Hi, Nana, > > > > I'm in a group called low road with sax player Noah Preminger & > > keyboard > > player Eric Lane. They do jazz settings of my poems & I read them. > > > > > > Thanks for asking. > > > > > > On 4/12/10 6:31 PM, "Nana Zabic" wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've > > read > > > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at > > least > > > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a > > whole > > > lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, > > > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > > > blurbs. > > > > > > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape > > or > > > form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I > > don't > > > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this > > phenomenon. > > > But there might be an event in the future. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Snezana > > > > > > ================================== > > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > > guidelines & > > > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:11:39 -0400 Reply-To: "D.Buuck" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "D.Buuck" Subject: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Stroffolino. Pat Reed. Eddie Berrigan. Kit Robinson. Julian Brolaski. Bob Perelman? Dillon Westbrook. Andrew Kenower. Lindsey Boldt. Brandon Brown & Alli Warren had a rap group. Kenny Goldsmith sings the classics. cris cheek. Andrew Joron. From: Nana Zabic To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 3:31:23 PM Subject: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) Hi All, I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio blurbs. If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. But there might be an event in the future. Thanks, Snezana ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:41:45 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: sheila black Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer Comments: To: Cecelia Belle In-Reply-To: <001401cadb66$59777ab0$0c667010$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know Rae personally but I would also like to congratulate her. Her = poetry in Veil is the book that had me turn away from traditional, conceptu= al work to explore language and experimental forms of writing--especially t= he piece where she collaborates with Ron Silliman.=A0 Sheila Black =A0=20 =A0Sheila Black=20 --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Cecelia Belle wrote: From: Cecelia Belle Subject: RE: Rae's Pulitzer To: "'Poetics List (UPenn, UB)'" Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 7:06 PM Just had to write in to congratulate, Rae, and don't know how to get a hold of her; to say David Bromige was a Huge fan of Rae's, and often quoted her line, " the smallest distance inexhaustible".=A0 ( Hope I got it right.)=A0= He would be so pleased.=A0 So am I.=A0 Cecelia Belle Bromige -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Caleb Cluff Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:48 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer Another great (greater) poet acknowledged: - Special citation: Hank William= s for his craftsmanship as a songwriter who expressed universal feelings with poignant simplicity and played a pivotal role in transforming country music into a major musical and cultural force in American life. Caleb=20 -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2010 7:54 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Rae's Pulitzer So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a book striking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that=20 are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the=20 first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College=20 Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects,=20 array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the=20 Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of=20 poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the limits=20 of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR201004120= 2 750_2.html?sid=3DST2010041202826 Paul E. Nelson=20 Global Voices Radio SPLAB! C. City, WA 206.422.5002 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. 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Please consider submitting a sarding song (or herring hymn) to Gary Lawless=B9s and Karin Spitfire=B9s blog:=20 http://www.bangordailynews.com/external/slideshows/cannery/index.html http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/14/national/main6394365.shtml http://sardinesong.blogspot.com/ SARDINES is a yellow, red, orange, black & green word. I got sardines at the dollar store where everything except sardines is more than a dollar, for sixty cents, as they should be my father used to take sardine sandwiches to work perhaps therefore, I love sardines. when people used to talk about the subway, they'd say: we were packed like sardines which sends a message: small, cheap, tightly packed, anchovies for the poor or you too can be both colorful & inexpensive as a really snappy, tiny bright blue convertible in which you can enjoy the good things about feeling like a sardine but maybe you'd rather be a striped bass or be a manatee with me or a grand whale, forgetful of nothing even being so big, the ocean's CEO, you'll take home a giant amount of cash when the ocean goes bust so you can share it even with the downtrodden sardines who get packed in cans in Thailand & shipped to the family dollar store for Bernadette --Bernadette Mayer =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:28:17 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Harold Carr Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out the link: "Harold Carr and Geoff Miller - Live at City Art May 13=2C 2009" at http://haroldcarr.com/sound/index.html for one of my recent poetry/music performances. Regards=2C H. Carr =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with H= otmail.=20 http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=3Dmulticalendar&ocid=3D= PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:00:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Peter ciccariello Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer In-Reply-To: <467963.40046.qm@web111508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "Versed" is an outstanding collection, the prize is well deserved! - Peter Ciccariello On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Paul Nelson wrote: > So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: > > Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a book > striking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that > are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the > first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College > Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects, > array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the > Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of > poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the limits > of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR2010041202750_2.html?sid=ST2010041202826 > > Paul E. Nelson > > Global Voices Radio > SPLAB! > > C. City, WA 206.422.5002 > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > -- http://invisiblenotes.blogspot.com/ http://uncommonvision.blogspot.com/ http://poemsfromprovidence.blogspot.com/ http://uncommon-vision.blogspot.com/ You can find my art and writing updates on Twitter https://twitter.com/ciccariello ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:33:04 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: John Cunningham Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having reviewed 'Versed', Peter, I can wholeheartedly concur. John Herbert Cunningham -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter ciccariello Sent: April-15-10 11:00 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer "Versed" is an outstanding collection, the prize is well deserved! - Peter Ciccariello On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Paul Nelson wrote: > So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: > > Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a book > striking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that > are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the > first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College > Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects, > array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the > Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of > poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the limits > of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR2010041202 750_2.html?sid=ST2010041202826 > > Paul E. Nelson > > Global Voices Radio > SPLAB! > > C. City, WA 206.422.5002 > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > -- http://invisiblenotes.blogspot.com/ http://uncommonvision.blogspot.com/ http://poemsfromprovidence.blogspot.com/ http://uncommon-vision.blogspot.com/ You can find my art and writing updates on Twitter https://twitter.com/ciccariello ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:52:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Cara Benson Subject: (made): Mon April 19 @ Troy Arts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Monday, April 19 | 7:00 pm  Cara Benson will perform a se= =0A=0A Monday, April 19 | 7:00 pm =0A=C2=A0=0ACara Benson will perform a se= ries of interconnected poems from her new book, (made). Through breath, rep= etition and trance chant Benson embodies a socio-political process of prese= nting the performer as both maker and destroyer. =0A=0A=C2=A0Come a few mo= ments early to check out:=0A=C2=A0In the President=E2=80=99s Gallery -=C2= =A0=E2=80=9CReal Estate=E2=80=9D - an architextural exhibit by Cara Benson = and Jon Lathrop.=0A=C2=A0=0A"How do the rooms we inhabit accommodate speech= ? Consider walls as punctuation. A window -- a verb. Though architectural s= yntax may appear less malleable than the structures of sentences, language = and buildings are constructs. We hope for integrity at the intersection."= =0A=0AFinancial assistance provided by:=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=0AThe Arts Center of= the Capital Region=0A265 River Street, Troy, NY 12180=0APhone: (518) 273-0= 552=0A=C2=A0=0A________________________=C2=A0=0Ahttp://www.necessetics.com= =C2=A0{homepage}=C2=A0=0Ahttp://www.necessetics.com/sousrature.html=C2=A0{j= ournal}=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:01:07 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: 12 or 20 (small press) questions (third series): Conducted by rob mclennan and Lisa Pasold, this new series of 12 or 20 questions (originally based on mclennans own first and second series of interviews with writers) is a response to a conversation between mclennan (founder/coordinator of the ottawa small press book fair) and Pasold (current co-coordinator of the Toronto Small Press Fair) after the fall 2009 edition of the Toronto fair, held at the Gladstone Hotel. Over drinks, the two colluded to work a series of interviews with purveyors of small and micro-press, whether chapbook or book publishers, or editors/publishers of magazines, journals or zines. Much thanks to the Gladstone Hotel, who originally provided drinks and the opportunity, and Open Book Toronto, where a number of these pieces have been featured. interviews (posted) so far: -- Mark McCawley, Greensleeve Editions, Edmonton AB: April 15, 2010 -- Cameron Anstee, Apt. 9 Press, Ottawa ON: April 6, 2010 -- Angela Carr, Tente, Montreal QC: April 4, 2010 -- Jenna Butler, Rubicon Press, Edmonton AB: March 30, 2010 -- Janet Vickers, Lipstick Press, Gabriola Island BC: March 26, 2010 -- Amanda Earl, AngelHousePress, Ottawa ON: March 22, 2010 ; http://robmclennansindex.blogspot.com/2010/03/12-or-20-small-press-questions-third.html -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:22:40 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: William James Austin Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Try William James Austin (moi). If you check my website, WilliamJamesAust= in.com, you'll get some info re: my professional experience as a guitarist= . WJA -----Original Message----- From: Murat Nemet-Nejat To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Wed, Apr 14, 2010 8:25 pm Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in= music?) steve dalchinsky, clark coolidge, drew gardner... murat n Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:36 AM, steve dalachinsky wrote= : > joe mcphee william parker cecil taylor henry grimes musicians who are poets many more like that in jazz world On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:15:06 -0400 Ruth Lepson writes: > Hi, Nana, > > I'm in a group called low road with sax player Noah Preminger & > keyboard > player Eric Lane. They do jazz settings of my poems & I read them. > > > Thanks for asking. > > > On 4/12/10 6:31 PM, "Nana Zabic" wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've > read > > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at > least > > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a > whole > > lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, > > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > > blurbs. > > > > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape > or > > form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I > don't > > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this > phenomenon. > > But there might be an event in the future. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Snezana > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & > > sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D he Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= &=20 ub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:32:14 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nicholas Karavatos Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C =20 Nicholas Karavatos http://www.archive.org/details/NicholasKaravatos-2009December2-ArcataTheate= rLoungeCalifornia http://www.archive.org/details/NicholasKaravatos1992September20NorthCountry= FairArcataPlaza Also explore=20 http://nicholaskaravatos.blogspot.com/ For much=2C much more. =20 Thanks=2C Nick Nicholas Karavatos=20 Dept of Language & Literature=20 American University of Sharjah=20 PO Box 26666=20 Sharjah=20 United Arab Emirates =20 > Date: Mon=2C 12 Apr 2010 17:31:23 -0500 > From: nana.zabic@GMAIL.COM > Subject: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in mu= sic?) > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > Hi All=2C >=20 > I'm cataloging=2C in my head at the moment=2C contemporary poets I've rea= d > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo=2C or at least > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole > lot of names=2C but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us=2C > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > blurbs. >=20 > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or > form=2C please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. > But there might be an event in the future. >=20 > Thanks=2C >=20 > Snezana >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your = inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:14:21 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jason Quackenbush Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) i was a musician before i was a poet. i went to berklee college of music and graduated from their electronic music and recording program. i still compose but i mostly keep it to myself. On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Nana Zabic wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole > lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > blurbs. > > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or > form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. > But there might be an event in the future. > > Thanks, > > Snezana > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:32:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Upcoming Events at The Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This is what the next week looks like at The Poetry Project. Check out the first post from our April guest-blogger Macgregor Card here: http://poetryproject.org/project-blog Friday, April 16, 10 PM Hillary Juster & Gregory Laynor Hillary Juster has black hair and soon a BA in interdisciplinary studies from NYU as well. She won 1st place in a poetry competition in 8th grade, won the Lamont Younger Poet's Prize at 15, but hasn't won much since. As a compliment to reading poetry, she likes to engage members of audience with sculpture, lighting, photography, and touching. In her spare time, she edit= s the old college lit mag, The Minetta Review, or is about to do something pretty impressive. Check out her work in the forthcoming The Physical Poets Home Library. Gregory Laynor has been teaching & studying at Temple University in Philadelphia. His reading of Gertrude Stein's The Making of Americans appears on UbuWeb. He does a blog at academicpoetry.com. He is co-editing for Chax Press the collected writings of the Philadelphia poet Gil Ott. Monday, April 19, 8 PM THE SALT OF STRUCTURE: A Celebration of Miron Bia=B3oszewski & Launch of Aufgabe Magazine #9 The Salt of Structure: A Celebration of Miron Bia=B3oszewski will comprise readings from Bia=B3oszewski's poems, prose, a performance of several of his cabaret pieces, as well as readings from the new issue of Aufgabe which features Polish poetry & poetics in translation. The work will be presented by American poets Peter Gizzi, Lisa Jarnot, Joan Retallack, Corina Copp, Paolo Javier, and Eugene Ostashevsky; Edwin Frank, Editor of the NYRB Classics Series; and Polish poet Ewa Chru=B6ciel, who is featured in the Aufgabe issue and will also read from her own poetry. The evening will be introduced by Harvard professor Joanna Ni=BFy=F1ska. There will be a post-reading reception. Miron Bia=B3oszewski (1922-1983) was one of Poland's great postwar poets but is so far little known in English. At once playful, meditative, provocative= , perplexing, and evasive, his work is extraordinarily difficult to translate= . Aside from a handful of poems published in Mi=B3osz's anthology Postwar Polis= h Poetry, only one slim volume of Bia=B3oszewski's verse has so far appeared in English; but both it and the acclaimed, unconventional Memoir of the Warsaw Uprising remain long out of print. This situation is hopefully changing. In a recent survey of translation desiderata conducted by The Quarterly Conversation, poet and Words without Borders editor Ilya Kaminsky replied: "Poems of Miron Bia=B3oszewski is the book I hope to one day hold in my hands." And the new (#9) issue of the Brooklyn-based literary journal Aufgabe, which features a special section on Polish poetry and poetics edited by Mark Tardi, is a big step in that direction. The portfolio presents an ample selection of new translations of Bia=B3oszewski's work as well as several previously published poems, along with a critical essay by critic Kacper Bartczak and work by younger Polish poets, including Ewa Chru=B6ciel, who might be considered inheritors of the Bia=B3oszewskian tradition of innovative, experimental poetry. Visit poetryproject.org for performer bios. Wednesday, April 21, 8 PM Other Flowers: A Celebration of James Schuyler Other Flowers: Uncollected Poems, edited by Simon Pettet and James Meetze, brings together 165 unseen poems from Schuyler, spanning from the early 1950s until his death in 1991. Featuring both editors with Anselm Berrigan, Tom Carey, John Coletti, Bill Corbett, Elaine Equi, Jonathan Galassi, Vincent Katz, Eileen Myles, Charles North, Arlo Quint, Stacy Szymaszek, Susie Timmons, Geoffrey Young and Anne Waldman. Friday, April 23, 10 PM Still Talking: New Film & Poetry In conjunction with We Saw The Light: Conversations Between New American Cinema & Poetry (4/30), tonight's event features readings, screenings and performance from five young Brooklyn-based poets and filmmakers: Jessica Fiorini, Derek Kroessler, Andrew Lampert, Dani Leventhal & Fern Silva. Jessica Fiorini is the author of the chapbooks Sea Monster at Night (Goodby= e Better) and Light Suite (forthcoming from Pudding House Publications). She has been published in Lungfull!, Brooklyn Rail and the Poetry Project Newsletter.=A0Jessica currently lives in Brooklyn. Derek Kroessler originally hails from Providence, RI and is finishing up hi= s senior year at NYU. His poems have appeared in Pleasure, and he has one homemade chapbook, Word/Turd. Born in the mid-70s in the Midwest, Andrew Lampert has staged performances and exhibited his films at The Whitney Museum of American Art, The Getty Museum, The British Film Institute, The Kitchen, The Rotterdam Internationa= l Film Festival, Kill Your Timid Notion Festival, Light Industry, Mitchell Algus Gallery and many other venues here and abroad. He lives in Brooklyn. Dani Leventhal's videos are distributed through the Video Data Bank. She ha= s screened her work at Oberhausen, Rotterdam, Gene Siskel Film Center, CineCycle and Anthology Film Archives.=A0 In 2007 she got an Astraea Visual Arts Award and a Women's Studio Workshop Book Arts Grant. In 2003 she received an MFA in Sculpture from the University of Illinois at Chicago and in 2009 an MFA in film/video from Bard College. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:52:19 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: 'Cyclones in High Northern Latitudes' is now available at Amazon Comments: To: British Poetics , Poetryetc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'Cyclones in High Northern Latitudes' is now available at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Cyclones-High-Northern-Latitudes-Berry/dp/1935084089 Sorry for posting this again, but I left out the subject heading on the last one. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:31:03 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: lora Subject: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am Lora Bloom, a poet whose outlet is mostly music these days. I= =0A=0AI am Lora Bloom, a poet whose outlet is mostly music these days.=A0 I= n the late nineties I published a lot and started my own literary magazine,= Siren's Silence.=A0 Now my poems see light mostly in my band "Radio Eris"= =A0http://www.myspace.com/radio5eris=A0- we are=A0an experimental spoken-wo= rd outfit in Philadelphia.=A0 Some of my new work,=A0instead of being writt= en, =A0comes=A0out as =A0spontaneous improvisations with the band. =0A=0A= =0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:32:55 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: vote for the 2010 poet laureate of the blogosphere; http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/bloggingpoetcom/vote-for-the-2010-poet-laureate-of-the-blogosphere.html i was on this a couple of years ago (before i realized it even existed) & apparently came EXTREMELY close to winning; there, i leave it now in yr hands..... rob -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:43:46 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marisol limon martinez poet musician painter On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:59:06 -0400 "J. Michael Mollohan" writes: > I have been a musician on and off for roughly 50 years. I still > perform > live occasionally and record the odd song now and then. Currently > I'm > trying to figure out what to do with some of Alan Sondheim's crystal > radio > recordings. > > I have a site for music: http://pages.suddenlink.net/ideas > > What was the question? > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:01:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer In-Reply-To: <553371.42634.qm@web82704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes, woo-hoo Rae! sheila black wrote: > I don't know Rae personally but I would also like to congratulate her. Her poetry in Veil is the book that had me turn away from traditional, conceptual work to explore language and experimental forms of writing--especially the piece where she collaborates with Ron Silliman. Sheila Black > > Sheila Black > > --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Cecelia Belle wrote: > > From: Cecelia Belle > Subject: RE: Rae's Pulitzer > To: "'Poetics List (UPenn, UB)'" > Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 7:06 PM > > Just had to write in to congratulate, Rae, and don't know how to get a hold > of her; to say David Bromige was a Huge fan of Rae's, and often quoted her > line, " the smallest distance inexhaustible". ( Hope I got it right.) He > would be so pleased. So am I. Cecelia Belle Bromige > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On > Behalf Of Caleb Cluff > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:48 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer > > Another great (greater) poet acknowledged: - Special citation: Hank Williams > for his craftsmanship as a songwriter who expressed universal feelings with > poignant simplicity and played a pivotal role in transforming country music > into a major musical and cultural force in American life. > > Caleb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Nelson > Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2010 7:54 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Rae's Pulitzer > > So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: > > Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a book > striking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that > are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the > first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College > Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects, > array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the > Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of > poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the limits > of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR2010041202 > 750_2.html?sid=ST2010041202826 > > Paul E. Nelson > > Global Voices Radio > SPLAB! > > C. City, WA 206.422.5002 > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > > The information contained in this email and any attachment is confidential > and > > may contain legally privileged or copyright material. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:28:22 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: nieuwland jeroen Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Samuel Vriezen. He is a Dutch poet (very much influenced by Silliman and other Language poets) and composer (in Cage tradition, and influenced by Morton Feldman, and the Wandelweiser project) ________________________________ From: Murat Nemet-Nejat To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 2:25:04 AM Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) steve dalchinsky, clark coolidge, drew gardner... murat On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:36 AM, steve dalachinsky wrote: > joe mcphee william parker cecil taylor henry grimes > musicians who are poets many more like that in jazz world > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:15:06 -0400 Ruth Lepson > writes: > > Hi, Nana, > > > > I'm in a group called low road with sax player Noah Preminger & > > keyboard > > player Eric Lane. They do jazz settings of my poems & I read them. > > > > > > Thanks for asking. > > > > > > On 4/12/10 6:31 PM, "Nana Zabic" wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've > > read > > > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at > > least > > > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a > > whole > > > lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, > > > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > > > blurbs. > > > > > > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape > > or > > > form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I > > don't > > > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this > > phenomenon. > > > But there might be an event in the future. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Snezana > > > > > > ================================== > > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:28:23 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nicholas Karavatos Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and David Meltzer=2C of course =20 =20 Nicholas Karavatos=20 Dept of Language & Literature=20 American University of Sharjah=20 PO Box 26666=20 Sharjah=20 United Arab Emirates =20 > Date: Mon=2C 12 Apr 2010 17:31:23 -0500 > From: nana.zabic@GMAIL.COM > Subject: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in mu= sic?) > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >=20 > Hi All=2C >=20 > I'm cataloging=2C in my head at the moment=2C contemporary poets I've rea= d > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo=2C or at least > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole > lot of names=2C but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us=2C > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > blurbs. >=20 > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or > form=2C please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. > But there might be an event in the future. >=20 > Thanks=2C >=20 > Snezana >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:14:01 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: <8CCAB2B342F961A-189C-6D3B@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is a very interesting thread but it would be muchly useful to have more than just a list of names... & where does sound poetry fit into this or someone like Jerry Rothenberg who accompanies himself with various handheld percussion. & the wonderful performances of Alison Knowles who makes music instruments like drums & rattles out of handmade paper. ~mIEKAL ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:55:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Edward Foster Subject: New Boooooks MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Talisman is publishing two important books this week: a new translation of Panait Istrati's "Kyra Kyralina" by Christopher Sawyer-Laucanno and the second volume in John High's trilogy, "The Book of Unknowing." For details, see http://www.spdbooks.org/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=Kyra+Kyralina and http://www.spdbooks.org/Producte/9781584980681/a-book-of-unknowing.aspx. A brief note re: the Istrati book: this is one of the great Modernist novels, much celebrated abroad, although until now little known in the United States. -- When an earlier translation appeared in the 1920s, a reviewer in Time magazine said the book was not "for the general public, which takes unkindly to abnormality no matter how subtly treated." In short, the hero happens to be gay. We can hope that Americans in 2010 are better prepared to deal with such issues, for truly "Kyra Kyralina" is a delight, not to be missed. Istrati, wrote Romain Rolland, "is a born storyteller, a teller of Oriental tales, and once he launches into a story, no one knows, not even him, if it will last an hour or a thousand and one nights." ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:49:27 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: Aaaaaaaaaaalice & Flim Forum Press MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi poetics friends....i'm happy to share that my new book from flim forum p= ress is now out.=C2=A0 details below. big thanks to all who have offered their support on this project.=C2=A0 for= those interested in review copies and/or setting up performances, please b= e in touch. onwards, jen karmin Flim Forum Press presents Aaaaaaaaaaalice by Jennifer Karmin travelogue in 11 cantos scored for polyvocal improvisation 112 pages, 7x9 ISBN 978-0-9790888-3-4 http://www.aaaaaaaaaaalice.blogspot.com "This book, a score, is full of information both literal and (im)possible. Do dip in; see what you come out with." =E2=80=94 Bernadette Mayer "Jennifer Karmin brings an openness and generosity to these poems of public address and private insistence. Aaaaaaaaaaalice's buoyant charm calls out for new listeners." =E2=80=94 Charles Bernstein "I like tightly proposed structures in which anything can happen & does because the more tightly controlled the structures, the more explosively the language will implode, disseminate, fold in or out or whatever it is it needs to do to loosen up or reverse direction & meaning. And that=E2=80= =99s the fun of Aaaaaaaaaaalice, lithe row of straight a=E2=80=99s followed by bitin= g animal commentary." =E2=80=94 Pierre Joris "Alice and anime, Asia and uncertainty, we do so want our sounds to make sense, our textual travels to have a guide, even if that guide is the white rabbit that will hide. Aaaaaaaaaaalice is the sound and sight of the disappearing rabbit, the one with a hat, the one who pops up with regular unpredictability whenever we go somewhere not here, and while words will swivel around us like our very own heads, making the unfamiliar familiar and the familiar unfamiliar, making no sense but nonsense and non-sense sense, like in this very text, what=E2=80=99s moreover curious, as Karmin r= ightly notes, is that 'yesterday a man was walking.' " =E2=80=94 Vanessa Place Jennifer Karmin has published, performed, exhibited, taught, and experimented with language across the U.S., Japan, and Kenya. She curates the Red Rover Series and is co-founder of the public art group Anti Gravity Surprise. Her multidisciplinary projects have been presented at festivals, artist-run spaces, community centers, and on city streets, including Betalevel (CA), Links Hall (IL), the French Broad Institute of Time and the River (NC), the Poetry Project (NY), the Urban Institute for Contemporary Arts (MI), and Woodland Pattern Book Center (WI). A proud member of the Dusie Kollektiv, she is the author of the Dusie chapbook Evacuated: Disembodying Katrina. Walking Poem, a collaborative street project, is featured online at How2. Her poems are widely published in anthologies and journals, like A Sing Economy (Flim Forum Press), Come Together: Imagine Peace (Bottom Dog Press), Not A Muse (Haven Books), The City Visible: Chicago Poetry for the New Century (Cracked Slab Books), Bird Dog, Cannot Exist, Delirious Hem, MoonLit, Otoliths, and Womb. She is the Community Aesthetician for Les Figues Press at Give A Fig. In Chicago, Jennifer teaches creative writing to immigrants at Truman College and works as a Poet-in-Residence for the public schools. She earned her BA in the Poetics Program at the University of Buffalo and MFA in the Writing Program at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. Past grants and residencies were funded by the Chicago Department of Cultural Affairs, the Djerassi Program, the Joseph Kellman Family Foundation, the Poetry Center of Chicago, Poets & Writers, Rochester Community Savings Bank, Summer Literary Seminars, and the Synapses Foundation. To buy online, read some early reviews & find performance dates: http://www.aaaaaaaaaaalice.blogspot.com To buy thru the mail, send a check for $20 ($16 +$4 shipping & handling): Flim Forum Press 418 Brown Street, #17 Iowa City, IA 52245 To query: klane at flimforum dot com http://www.flimforum.blogspot.com also find Flim Forum on Facebook =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:56:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Joel Chace Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Joel Chace, here--working poet, playwright, and still occasionally working keyboard player. Music Samples----------------- http://www.purevolume.com/compass/albums/Live+at+St.+Lawrence+University Thanks! Interesting subject! On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Nana Zabic wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read > and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least > did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole > lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, > although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio > blurbs. > > If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or > form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't > have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. > But there might be an event in the future. > > Thanks, > > Snezana > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:41:39 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bonnie MacAllister Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: <8CCAB2B342F961A-189C-6D3B@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lora Bloom and I would qualify. Lora fronts the poetic experimental avant-garde noise band, Radio Eris. http://www.myspace.com/radio5eris I've recorded tracks with various studio musicians, and I'm about to reenter the studio for the curated Oracle Sessions on the Main Street West label (West Philadelphia). Best, Bonnie MacAllister -- http://bonnie-macallister.blogspot.com/ http://tinyurl.com/bonnie-macallister ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:42:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: My sound files are in a new archive - check it out! (please announce) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi - My sound files are in a new archive - please check it out! ESP-Disk has given me server space for my sound/music works (solos and collaborations). I won't have them any longer at - www.alansondheim.org, but do check out - http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ The following has the latest at the top - at this point, however, it depends only on upload order - http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/?M=D Eventually there will be about 550 or more files up. They're almost all mp3s. Please enjoy, and let me know if you have questions about individual works. (There are about 240 up now; it's a long upload.) When I make newer pieces, I'll announce them with the new URL; they'll be at the top of the list. Note this work is all for free, but you can still support the musicians! I want to thank everyone at espdisk.com for giving me this space. Needless to say, ESP-Disk, like every alternative recording company, needs your support! Thanks, Alan ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:23:27 EDT Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ann Bogle Subject: Art is theft MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Explain art is theft. I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I could think of for poor. The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark is all? Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, something about a mountain. I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had read Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great artists incarcerate? Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? Chicago Style. 300 words. Ann Bogle ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:26:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Margaret Carson Subject: Ann Lauterbach and Leonard Schwartz Reading -- in English and Spanish Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain Bilingual poetry reading (English-Spanish) by Ann Lauterbach author of Eclipse con objeto translated from the English by=20 Marta Lopez-Luaces & Leonard Schwartz author of Bendiciones gnosticas y otros poemas translated from the English by=20 Mercedes Roffe Wednesday April 21, 6:30 pm at the Mulberry Street Public Library 10 Jersey Street, between Mulberry and Lafayette New York, NY 10012 - (212) 966-342 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:45:03 -0700 Reply-To: derek beaulieu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: derek beaulieu Subject: new from talonbooks: HOW TO WRITE by derek beaulieu Comments: To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@invalid.domain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable new from Talonbooks: ** HOW TO WRITE by derek beaulieu http://www.talonbooks.com/index.cfm?event=3DtitleDetails&ISBN=3D088922629= 6 available from your favourite independent bookseller! ** How to Write is a perverse Coles Notes: a paradigm of prosody where = writing as sampling, borrowing, cutting=C2=AD and =C2=ADpasting and = mash=C2=AD-up meets literature. This collection of conceptual short = =EF=AC=81ction takes inspiration from Lautr=C3=A9amont=E2=80=99s decree = that =E2=80=9Cplagiarism is necessary. It is implied in the idea of = progress. It clasps the author=E2=80=99s sentence tight, uses his = expressions, eliminates a false idea, replaces it with the right = idea.=E2=80=9D=20 =20 Already early in the twentieth century, the modernist Ezra Pound = asserted that poets should =E2=80=9Cmake it new,=E2=80=9D and of course = by =E2=80=9Cit=E2=80=9D he meant =E2=80=9Cthe tradition=E2=80=9D: the = materiality of pre=C2=AD-existent writing. The assertion is by no means = original, much less post-modern: John Donne, for example, argued = centuries ago that =E2=80=9Call mankind is of one author, and is one = volume.=E2=80=9D=20 =20 How to Write is an instruction manual for the demise of ownership. A = multitudinous dialogue of writers and subjects, words and contexts, it = unleashes a cacophony of voices where authors don=E2=80=99t own their = words, they merely rent them from other authors. Containing ten pieces = of conceptual prose ranging from the purely appropriated through the = entirely recom=C2=ADposed, and covering a range of texts from the = anonymous to the famous, it includes samplings from, among many others: = Lawrence Sterne; Agatha Christie; Bob Kane; Roy Lichtenstein; and every = piece of text within one block of the author=E2=80=99s home. Its title = story is an exhaustive record of every incidence of the words = =E2=80=9Cwrite=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cwrites=E2=80=9D in forty different = English =C2=ADlanguage texts picked aesthetically to represent a = disparate number of genres.=20 =20 With How to Write, beaulieu suggests writers and artists would be better = served to =E2=80=9Cmake it reframed, make it borrowed, make it = re=C2=ADcontextualized.=E2=80=9D By recasting the canon with cut=C2=ADup = directions for successful writing, catalogues of events, and lists of = vocabulary, he gleefully illustrates Picasso=E2=80=99s dictum that = =E2=80=9CGood artists copy. Great artists steal.=E2=80=9D =20 ISBN 978=C2=AD0=C2=AD88922=C2=AD629=C2=AD6=20 Non=C2=AD=EF=AC=81ction / Language Arts / Creative Writing=20 4.25" x 7"; 72pp.; trade paper, $16.95 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:22:11 +0200 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Philip Meersman Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) Comments: cc: Dirk Elst In-Reply-To: <6FC0F886-55A3-4C2E-8B28-281E53A49D7C@uw.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Belgian Poet Dirk Elst, you can also add to your list. You can find more on him on his blogsite: http://dirkelst.blogspot.com/ which is in Dutch but he writes and performs also in English, see also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv538I9hdVk&feature=related, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOo_WM-bWbk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZnZc5ZH9mU Fragments out of one of his latest performance shows. I worked with Dirk for several performances and I recommend him as a poet, a performer and a musician. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Jason Quackenbush wrote: > i was a musician before i was a poet. i went to berklee college of music > and graduated from their electronic music and recording program. i still > compose but i mostly keep it to myself. > > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Nana Zabic wrote: > > Hi All, >> >> I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read >> and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least >> did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole >> lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, >> although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio >> blurbs. >> >> If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or >> form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't >> have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. >> But there might be an event in the future. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Snezana >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > -- Philip Meersman !!! New Address Tentoonstellingslaan 418, bus 46 1090 Jette Belgium tel+32 (0)476 576 287 www.myspace.com/spooninmybrain www.facebook.com/spooninmybrain www.youtube.com/spooninmybrain skype: Spooninmybrain philip.meersman@gmail.com www.poetasdelmundo.com/verInfo_europa.asp?ID=4337 21/03/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 02/04/10: Performance opening expo "Love Letters", KULTOUR10, Sint-Niklaas, BE (http://www.kultour10.be/kultour10/index.php/podium/31-qspooninmybrainq) 16/04/10: "Binnenkort ook in navulpak" op het Once upon a Festival, Kasteel van Laarne, BE (www.onceuponafestival.be) 21/04/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 05/05/10-09/05/10: Literature festival of Tallinn, Estonia 21/05/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 21/07/10: BruSlam, HotsyTotsy, Ghent, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:57:12 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: richard owens Subject: Olson Conference Videos! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About two dozen video clips from the Olson Centenary in Worcester, MA (Marc= h 25, 2010) can be viewed at Youtube (click on "uploads" to navigate):=20 http://www.youtube.com/user/damnthecaesars Speakers include: Ammiel Alcalay, Carla Billitteri, Don Byrd, Pierre Joris,= Charles Stein, Anne Waldman, Kate Tarlow Morgan, Sasha Steensen, Donald We= llman, Fred Dewey, Paul Cardoni (Olson's landlord at 28 Fort Square), Roy S= kodnick and others.=20 The aim is to embed these in a web page eventually, but here for now!=20 into the fog ... rich ...=A0=20 ........richard owens 810 richmond ave buffalo NY 14222-1167 damn the caesars, the journal damn the caesars, the blog =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:07:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Julie Strand <25jnuts@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Woodland Pattern Book Center is looking to hire a full-time Education Coordinator. Comments: To: poetics@buffalo.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Woodland Pattern Book Center* is looking to hire a full-time Education Coordinator. Woodland Pattern Book Center is dedicated to the discovery, cultivation and presentation of contemporary literature and the arts. Our goals are to promote a lifetime practice of reading and writing, to provide a forum and resource center for writers/artists in Milwaukee and ou= r region, and to increase and diversify the audience for contemporary literature through innovative approaches to multi-arts programming. *Position Title:* Education Coordinator *Start Date:* Between May 25, 2010 and June 1, 2010 *Position Objective:* To coordinate all aspects of Woodland Pattern=92s growing Education program, including after school creative writing classes for children, in-school workshops, summer writing camps, evening workshops for adults, master classes with visiting writers and any other educational or community outreach activities. Education Coordinator directs the Urban Youth Literary Arts program. *Qualifications:* Excellent oral and written communication skills, experience in educational and/or nonprofit setting, commitment to contemporary literature, grant writing and administration experience. *Pay Rate, Benefits and Terms:* This is a professional position, full-time permanent, eligible for health insurance. The Education Coordinator reports to the Executive Director. If interested, a more lengthy job description is available upon request. Applicants should send their resume to chuckstebelton@sbcglobal.net. Or: Woodland Pattern Book Center Attn: Chuck Stebelton 720 E. Locust Street Milwaukee, WI 53212 http://woodlandpattern.org/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:03:10 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Douglas Manson Subject: Contact info Field and Osman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Could anyone backchannel email/contact addresses for Thalia Field and Jena Osman? engaging forum on Research (&poetics) last night at Poets House, with John D'Agata. d ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:47:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ed Friedman Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) Comments: cc: szabic2@gmail.com Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear Snezana, There are a lot of poets who have been involved with music in one way or another. Off the top of my head.... Some of the more famous ones: Carl Sandburg, Patti Smith, Jim Carroll, Amiri Baraka, Robert Hunter, Cecil Taylor, Ed Sanders, Tuli Kupferberg, Allen Ginsberg. Less famous: Barbara Barg, Maggie Dubris, Jim Brodey, Clark Coolidge, Jayne Cortez, Bob Holman, David Henderson, Elinor Nauen, Ravi Singh (Neal Hackman); Janet Hamill; Jan= e Siberry, Marc Nasdor, Ellen Carter and Sparrow (their band Foamola), Vernon Reid (more music than poetry), Vernon Frazer, Miguel Algarin, Ted Greenwald= , David Meltzer, Steven Taylor, the late Sekou Sundiatta. Then there are poet= s who musically vocalize in performing their works (just to name a few): Tracie Morris, Anne Waldman, Jerome Rothenberg, Edwin Torres, the late Pedr= o Pietri.=20 Some of my music activities over the years: wrote songs; played guitar & sang; mixed soundtrack music for various readings/performances/plays; collaborated fairly extensively with composer Garrett List; played guitar and sang in all-composer bands (the Charles Lee Redman Trio, the Prairie Oysters, and Peter Gordon=B9s Love of Life Orchestra); wrote poems with sung lines in them. Sincerely, Ed Friedman=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:12:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Francis Raven Subject: Raven's Occasional Spice Club MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone, Carolyn and I have started a spice club that I thought might interest you. Kickstarter has a great model for arts based businesses. We'd love to send you some spices. You can sign up here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/716933849/ravens-occasional-spice-club What is Raven's Occasional Spice Club? Are you ever bored by the foods you are eating? Think all food is tasting bland? Can=92t find any new flavors? If so, you need to join Raven=92s Occasional Spice Club! In the spice club, members receive a small packet of a rare spice (such as berbere from Ethiopia), a homemade spice (such as pecoconut, a novel blend of powdered pecans and coconut), a strange spice (such as puffed lotus seeds), or a unique spice (such as persnickety=97what=92s that? You need to join to find out!). The spices are specially chosen by our curator, Francis Raven. Whenever possible, the ingredients used in the spice club are sustainably produced. As you can tell, at the Occasional Spice Club, we have a broad definition of what a spice is. Something is a spice if it (1) makes food more interesting or tasty, (2) is used in nutritionally insignificant quantities, and (3) can be sprinkled or shaken. Why the club? Because spice is the spice of life. That=92s our motto. What is included in an installment of the spice club? With each installment of the spice club, you will receive a small amount of the spice in question, a recipe (or two or three) using the spice, fun facts about its origin and history, and maybe some artsy photos of it or examples of its use in literature or a poem written in its honor or celebrity testimonials. What does your pledge cover? Your pledge covers the costs of buying and/or making the spices, producing the informational content accompanying the spice, shipping, and the time of our dedicated research and curatorial staff in investigating the spices. peace out francis and carolyn --=20 Francis Raven 2125 14th St. NW #332 Washington DC 20009 francisraven@gmail.com 202-621-7345 http://www.ravensaesthetica.com/ Some Stationary: http://somestationary.blogspot.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:59:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nate Pritts Subject: H_NGM_N Open Reading Period MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all -=20 Just a reminder that H_NGM_N is reading full-length manuscripts through the= end of the month. $10 cheap. http://www.h-ngm-n.com/h_ngm_n-b__ks/h_ngm_n-poets.html Thanks=2C Nate ___________ :: Dr. Nate Pritts =20 :: http://www.natepritts.com =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with H= otmail.=20 http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=3Dmulticalendar&ocid=3D= PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:18:33 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: George Bowering Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: > Explain art is theft. > Yeah. I agree that explain art is the worst kind of art. But I don't think that it is theft. gb ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:56:20 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: the globe & mail book blog another week of exciting entries during April's 'poetry month' feature at the Globe & Mail book blog (curated by yours truly); week #2 features: Phil Hall on Laurie Duggan Sachiko Murakami on a. rawlings Rob Budde on Ken Belford Nicole Markotic on Nikki Reimer & Jesse Patrick Ferguson on Peter Norman http://www.theglobeandmail.com/books/in-other-words/ still to come: pieces on Kate Eichhorn, Gregory Betts, Christine Stewart, Jeff Derksen, Phoebe Tsang, Artie Gold & others! -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:38:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Margaret Konkol Subject: S M A L L P R E S S in the A R C H I V E Douglas Basford Comments: To: Poetics+ , ENGRAD-LIST@listserv.buffalo.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ++Please mark your calendars for this Wednesday April 21st. Doug Basford will give a talk at 2pm in The Poetry Collection, 420 Capen: "'what do they mean by* noigandres*?': On Translating Anglophone Poets into Italian" This talk will be held in The Poetry Collection, 420 Capen @ SUNY Buffalo. This event is free and open to the public. Small Press in the Archive Lecture Series dedicates itself to the study of poetry outside the traditional literary historical plot. The lectures in this series draw on materials in The Poetry Collection, at SUNY Buffalo in order to explore community/discourse formations, the status of ephemera and the making of genre, the conditions of literary production, transatlantic cross-pollinations in and between specific magazines, the careers of poets, the role of book art, and how the little magazine functions in the making of the avant-garde. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:53:17 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Chris Chapman Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <2381EAAC-5079-45DE-B151-C90120C1CA71@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 theft + disguise = metaphor? 1. theft: a repetition that doesn't use negation for instantiation. eg.: a, a not a, A. 2. disguise: a different species within one genus. 3. metaphor: gifts of insubordinate resemblance if art is the use of metaphor, creative comparison, then it is theft. On 4/17/10, George Bowering wrote: > On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: > >> Explain art is theft. >> > > Yeah. I agree that explain art is the worst kind of art. > > But I don't think that it is theft. > > > gb > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:58:25 +0200 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Philip Meersman Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear mIEKAL, indeed a good question, thinking also about the soundpoets like the Dutch poets Jaap Blonk and Rosalie Hirsch, the Belgian poets Maja Jantar and Jelle Meander... On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:14 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote: > This is a very interesting thread but it would be muchly useful to > have more than just a list of names... > > & where does sound poetry fit into this or someone like Jerry > Rothenberg who accompanies himself with various handheld percussion. > & the wonderful performances of Alison Knowles who makes music > instruments like drums & rattles out of handmade paper. > > ~mIEKAL > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > -- Philip Meersman !!! New Address Tentoonstellingslaan 418, bus 46 1090 Jette Belgium tel+32 (0)476 576 287 www.myspace.com/spooninmybrain www.facebook.com/spooninmybrain www.youtube.com/spooninmybrain skype: Spooninmybrain philip.meersman@gmail.com www.poetasdelmundo.com/verInfo_europa.asp?ID=4337 21/03/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 02/04/10: Performance opening expo "Love Letters", KULTOUR10, Sint-Niklaas, BE (http://www.kultour10.be/kultour10/index.php/podium/31-qspooninmybrainq) 16/04/10: "Binnenkort ook in navulpak" op het Once upon a Festival, Kasteel van Laarne, BE (www.onceuponafestival.be) 21/04/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 05/05/10-09/05/10: Literature festival of Tallinn, Estonia 21/05/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 21/07/10: BruSlam, HotsyTotsy, Ghent, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:37:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here's a shot. but off the cuff. art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. Ann Bogle wrote: > Explain art is theft. > > I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in > Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I could > think of for poor. > > The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously > cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's > syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark is all? > Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, something > about a mountain. > > I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had read > Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great > artists incarcerate? > > Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? > > Chicago Style. 300 words. > > Ann Bogle > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:08:13 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Matt Henriksen Subject: Announcing Cannibal 5 and Allyssa Wolf's Sister MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cannibal: Issue 5 112 pages, hand-sewn, silk-screen printed cover w/ poems Carrie Olivia Adams, Samuel Amadon, Claire Becker, Susan Briante, Lily Brown, Adam Clay, CAConrad, Kate Dougherty, Farrah Field, Laura Goode, Kate Greenstreet, Jane Gregory, Whit Griffin, Melanie Hubbard, Andrew Hughes, MC Hyland, Grant Jenkins, Jeff T. Johnson, Jon Leon, Sam Lohmann, Sara Mumulo, Hoa Nguyen, Danielle Pafunda, Alison Palmer, Kyle Schlesinger, Cedar Sigo, Nate Slawson, Tony Tost, Steven Toussaint, Amish Trivedi, G.C. Waldrep, & Joseph Wood Sister by Allyssa Wolf 60 pages, hand-sewn, full-color cover $10 Buy them together for $20 Subscribe to all Cannibal Books 2010 titles for $75 flesheatingpoems.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:25:18 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: 45 RPM Books... In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Excerpt from book "in progress"---Still Life With Silver Jew up at www.chrisstroffolino.com Also, some new POP SNOB singles---including one featuring a spoken word piece by poet Delia Tramontina-- at www.chrisstroffolino.com There's also "calls for proposals" etc... join the POP SNOB group on Facebook if you wish, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pop-Snob/106602229379153?ref=ts I'm being evicted, but WE take requests! I may be a little slow getting back to you--- but I haven't lost a home, just gained a web-site! cheers! C ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:46:37 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Camille Martin Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 I'm a recovering pianist - master's degree at a conservatory - now composin= g a song cycle from some of poems in my recently-released Sonnets.=20 If any sopranos out there would like to look at the scores or hear a sound = file, let me know. One is a capella, and the rest have piano accompaniment. Camille Martin http://www.shearsman.com/pages/books/catalog/2010/martin.html http://www.camillemartin.ca http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com ________________________________________ From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of = Philip Meersman [philip.meersman@GMAIL.COM] Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 6:22 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in = music?) The Belgian Poet Dirk Elst, you can also add to your list. You can find more on him on his blogsite: http://dirkelst.blogspot.com/ whi= ch is in Dutch but he writes and performs also in English, see also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVv538I9hdVk&feature=3Drelated, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtOo_WM-bWbk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvZnZc5ZH9mU Fragments out of one of his latest performance shows. I worked with Dirk for several performances and I recommend him as a poet, = a performer and a musician. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Jason Quackenbush wrote: > i was a musician before i was a poet. i went to berklee college of music > and graduated from their electronic music and recording program. i still > compose but i mostly keep it to myself. > > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Nana Zabic wrote: > > Hi All, >> >> I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read >> and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least >> did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole >> lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, >> although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio >> blurbs. >> >> If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or >> form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't >> have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. >> But there might be an event in the future. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Snezana >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > -- Philip Meersman !!! New Address Tentoonstellingslaan 418, bus 46 1090 Jette Belgium tel+32 (0)476 576 287 www.myspace.com/spooninmybrain www.facebook.com/spooninmybrain www.youtube.com/spooninmybrain skype: Spooninmybrain philip.meersman@gmail.com www.poetasdelmundo.com/verInfo_europa.asp?ID=3D4337 21/03/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 02/04/10: Performance opening expo "Love Letters", KULTOUR10, Sint-Niklaas, BE (http://www.kultour10.be/kultour10/index.php/podium/31-qspooninmybrainq) 16/04/10: "Binnenkort ook in navulpak" op het Once upon a Festival, Kasteel van Laarne, BE (www.onceuponafestival.be) 21/04/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 05/05/10-09/05/10: Literature festival of Tallinn, Estonia 21/05/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) 21/07/10: BruSlam, HotsyTotsy, Ghent, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:58:35 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Pam Brown Subject: Review a poetry book for Jacket magazine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again Poetics reviewers - If you would like to review either or both of these titles for Jacket magazine please contact me here p.brown62@gmail.com Cyclones in High Northern Latitudes (Lavender Ink, 46 pp) A collaborative poem by Jake Berry and Jeffrey Side, with drawings and cover art by Rich Curtis. More Info: http://lavenderink.org/cyclone/ ___________________________________________________________________________= _____ Walls to Kick and Hills to Sing From : A Comedy With Interruptions by Murray Edmond (Auckland university Press, 80pp Murray Edmond=92s new collection of poems is a theatrical assemblage of language and form, arranged in six acts. In ballads, dialogues, choruses and songs, from biking narrow Polish roads to storyboarding a nationalistic film, Edmond presents a collection that is =91alertinng=92, playful, subversive and profound. A consummate director, Edmond balances his dramatic, mock-dramatic and narrative pieces with intense lyric poems, taking the reader into the complex sites where language and experience meet. More Info: http://web.auckland.ac.nz/uoa/aup/book/2010/edmond-walls-to-kick= .cfm Thanks, Very best from Pam _________________________________ blog : http://thedeletions.blogspot.com website : http://pambrownbooks.blogspot.com/ associate editor : http://jacketmagazine.com/ & continuing with Jacket2 in 2011 _____________________________________ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:19:27 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Camille Martin Subject: new at Rogue Embryo In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 New on my blog: 1) rob mclennan's review of Sonnets 2) song setting of one of my sonnets: =93katrina, tundra=94 (YouTube link) Cheers! Camille Camille Martin http://www.shearsman.com/pages/books/catalog/2010/martin.html http://www.camillemartin.ca http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:07:33 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Dana Teen Lomax Subject: Small Press Traffic Proudly Presents Kindergarde MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Small Press Traffic and The Creative Work Fund Proudly Present: Kindergarde: Avant-garde Poems=2C Plays=2C Stories=2C & Songs for Children World Premier Sunday=2C April 25th=2C 2010 5:30 p.m. California College of the Arts=2C Timken Hall 1111 8th Street=2C San Francisco What do cutting-edge=2C experimental writers have to say to children? Don't miss this opportunity to find out! 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Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:14:52 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rachel Loden Subject: this Friday: Joron, Loden, Giscombe at the de Young in SF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit C.S. Giscombe, Andrew Joron, and Rachel Loden read from their work at the de Young Museum Koret Auditorium Friday, April 23, 7 p.m. Free to Museum members; $5 for all others The de Young Museum of Fine Art 50 Hagiwara Tea Garden Drive Golden Gate Park San Francisco Parking lot inside the museum: enter on Fulton just west of Park Presidio Drive More info at the de Young Web site: http://tinyurl.com/yj7vm5g or http://www.famsf.org/deyoung/calendar/day.asp?categoryid=62 &calendarid=5234&day=4%2F2%2F2010 Andrew Joron was born in San Antonio, Texas, in 1955, and grew up in Stuttgart, Germany; Lowell, Massachusetts; and Missoula, Montana. He attended U.C. Berkeley, where he majored in history and philosophy of science. After a decade and a half spent writing science-fiction poetry, culminating in his volume Science Fiction (Pantograph Press, 1992), he turned to a more philosophical mode of speculative lyric. This work has been collected in The Removes (Hard Press, 1999), Fathom (Black Square Editions, 2003) and The Sound Mirror (Flood Editions, 2008). He is also the translator, from the German, of the Marxist-Utopian philosopher Ernst Bloch's Literary Essays (Stanford University Press, 1998), and of the surrealist Richard Anders's aphorisms and prose poems. His literary essays have been collected in The Cry at Zero (Counterpath Press, 2008). City Lights will publish his Trance Archive: New and Selected Poems in the spring of 2010. Joron lives in Berkeley, where he works as a freelance bibliographer and indexer. Rachel Loden is the author of Dick of the Dead, currently one of five finalists for the California Book Award. The Washington Post's "Poet's Choice" column featured a poem from the book, and it has been called "oddly sublime" and "intoxicating" by the Poetry Project Newsletter and "expansive and whimsical" by the Brooklyn Rail. Loden's first book, Hotel Imperium, won the Contemporary Poetry Series competition and was selected as one of the ten best poetry books of the year by the San Francisco Chronicle, which called it "quirky and beguiling." It was also shortlisted for the Bay Area Book Reviewers Award. Her work has appeared in New American Writing, the Paris Review, Jacket, two editions of the Best American Poetry series, and many other magazines and anthologies. She is the recipient of a Pushcart Prize, a Fellowship in Poetry from the California Arts Council, an &NOW Award, and a grant from the Fund for Poetry. C. S. Giscombe has authored books of poetry Prairie Style, Giscombe Road, and Here, and the nonfiction book Into and Out of Dislocation. His poetry has been published in several anthologies, including Best American Poetry, Oxford Anthology of African American Poetry, Lyric Postmoderns, and elsewhere. Giscombe was recently awarded the American Book Award for 2008 for Prairie Style. He currently is a Professor of Poetry at U.C. Berkeley. The de Young Poetry Series is curated by Paul Hoover, a poet, editor, and professor of creative writing at San Francisco State University. Advance tickets: https://tickets.famsf.org/public/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:35:45 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: cris cheek Subject: post_moot. Springtime in Ohio. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *post_moot 2010, poetry + performance: a convocation* * April 22-25th, Miami University, Oxford, Ohio* Neither quite an academic conference nor a festival, *post_moot 2010* bring= s almost 70 poet-scholars and scholar-poets, language poets, the Black Took Collective, the Flarf Collective, sound artists, voice artists, lyric poets= , book artists, digital text artists and poets=92 theater makers together for four days of immersion into early twenty-first century thinking about poetr= y + performance. Hosted on the campus of Miami University in Oxford, southwes= t Ohio, participants are coming from close to home and far afield, New Zealand, England, Wales, Canada and all around the United States. The practitioners presenting at *post_moot 2010* are recognized leaders in thei= r work; several are directors of Creative Writing programs and Literature conferences and many are major artists and editors with international reputations. Themes that will be explored include eco-poetics, translation, polylingualism, poetry in the classroom, digital texts, bookarts, poets=92 theater, sound art, talk-based poetics, voice art, visual poetry, and live writing. For more information visit: http://www.units.muohio.edu/creativewriting/postmoot/ And track our live blog throughout the events: http://postmoot.com/10/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:56:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <4BCA380F.90505@umn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 By definition originality is impossible. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 06:54:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jason Quackenbush Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) The word "is" functions both as copula and expression of identity. If I say "X is Y" I can mean either that Y is some way of describing X or that X and Y are identical. If they are identical then they can be substituted for one another in a sentence without any change in meaning. Observe: 1.) "Theft is the taking of something from someone who has more right to possess it than the thief." 2.) "Art is the taking of something from someone who has more right to possess it than the artist." If there is no change in meaning here, then "Art is Theft" is a mere expression of identity. This is not the case. Therefore "is" in this sentence is functioning as a copula. In that case theft is a predicate of art. It is possible that the sentences "Art is theft" and "Art is yellow" are both true in a way that would not be possible if the "is" in both sentences were functioning as a marker of identity. To explain "Art is theft" you must therefore just know what "theft" means as a predicate. As such it is worth pointing out that theft as a predicate indicates that art is a crime, art takes possession of some (intellectual) property that does not belong to the artist. To create art then is to appropriate and to do wrong; to be guilty and deserving of punishment. "Art is theft" is therefore a condemnation of God as first creator for creating us and a warning to artists that there is nothing redemptive in what they do. In creation, the artist takes from infinite possibility and fixes in imitation the previously unrealized. Such an act is clearly larcenous and its perpetrators mere criminals trafficking in contraband. On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: > Explain art is theft. > > I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in > Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only > word I could > think of for poor. > > The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men > unanimously > cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's > syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's > remark is all? > Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, > something > about a mountain. > > I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I > had read > Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great > artists incarcerate? > > Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? > > Chicago Style. 300 words. > > Ann Bogle > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:26:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Deborah Poe Subject: Elements: Review & Potential Reviewers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Friends, I wanted to pass along this review of my new collection Elements: http://thelinebreak.wordpress.com/. If you are interested in doing a review of *Elements*, please let me know. I'm happy to mail a review copy to you. Best wishes, Deborah Poe http://www.deborahpoe.com http://www.stockportflats.org/elements.htm ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:37:11 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Comments: RFC822 error: Invalid RFC822 field - "It ain’t". Rest of header flushed. From: Gregg Murray Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My thots=0AIt ain=E2=80=99t=0AI reappropropriate apro poe and some think I = =0ASmuggle=0AMakes a mind boggle on this feed speed=0AI read from Ann Bogle= =0ASaw it while lying in bed, truth told,=0AIt said =E2=80=9CArt is Theft= =E2=80=9D in 300 words=0AFor/get what you he(a)rd, take it=0AMy style; "sto= le" it=0AY=E2=80=99all need a zip line from Shy-town to the ATL=0ARent some= wheels as well=0ASteal some meals and rip off vs.=0AToo, for starterz y=E2= =80=99all can rechew the gum(p) sum stuck=0AOn my shoe=0ALife is like a box= a chalk lits=0AYou ain=E2=80=99t know=0AI role (play) up in cars I stole= =0AWhole vs. stale, my foods, sometimes I thieve it slo=0ASteelin=E2=80=99 = my rims=0AVerse is ripped from slim waves, folks told me I was numero uno= =0AWith middle fingers, meddle digits=0A=0A(K)now =0AI=E2=80=99m Chief Thie= f of the Poetry Police=0ACoppin a feel=0APo=E2=80=99 poe folks chasin me fo= r a toke=0AOn what I smoke=0AVs. I slopped and draped on the white page=0AW= ho woulda thot I cd unbleach it=0ADegree=E2=80=99d hoes ears rapt while i= =0APreach and teach, didact=0AThe mind-blowin fact that I didn=E2=80=99t st= eal shit=0AI already own all of it =0A=0AY'all can have it back=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ann Bogle = =0ATo: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=0ASent: Fri, April 16, 2010 8:23:27 PM= =0ASubject: Art is theft=0A=0AExplain art is theft.=0A=0AI offer a prize of= $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in =0ABinghamton who sent m= e $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I could =0Athink of for = poor.=0A=0AThe subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men un= animously =0Acited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eli= ot's =0Asyllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's= remark is all? =0APicasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more = interesting, something =0Aabout a mountain.=0A=0AI was glad after renting = Tom & Viv years after its release that I had read =0AEliot early. Four Qu= artets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great =0Aartists incarcerate?=0A= =0ASubstitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what?=0A=0A= Chicago Style. 300 words.=0A=0AAnn Bogle=0A=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =0AThe Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guideli= nes & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=0A=0A=0A= =0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:12:39 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: John Cunningham Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <4BCA380F.90505@umn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You have raised a question that I've been pondering for some time although perhaps in a different context. This past Sunday, I had Steven Smith, formerly of the sound poetry group Owen Sound as well as director of Sage Hill Writing who is now director of Literary Arts at the Banff Centre, on my radio show 'Speaking of Poets' heard every Sunday from 4:30 to 5:00 p.m. CST on CKUW 95.9 FM (and available for streaming or download from the CKUW website). We talked about the concepts of sampling and found poetry. I've had poets as diverse as Karen Solie and Jan Conn to the experimental such as Erin Moure, Lisa Robertson and Angela Carr on the show who have used these techniques. I have also had discussion with poets who are aghast at this plagiarism. What are the parameters in these days of FLARF poetic techniques for the legitimacy of 'borrowings'? When does one have to cite? I've heard others who, if wanting to use a phrase, line or brief passage from another writer's work actually indicate that they would send a request to that writer for permission to use that material. Is this necessary? John Herbert Cunningham -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Maria Damon Sent: April-17-10 5:37 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Art is theft here's a shot. but off the cuff. art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. Ann Bogle wrote: > Explain art is theft. > > I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in > Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I could > think of for poor. > > The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously > cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's > syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark is all? > Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, something > about a mountain. > > I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had read > Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great > artists incarcerate? > > Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? > > Chicago Style. 300 words. > > Ann Bogle > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:28:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Today -- Camille Dungy on NPR Comments: To: Discussion of Women's Poetry List , "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Camille Dungy discusses an anthology she edited on African American nature poetry, Black Nature, and reads poems by Marilyn Nelson, Evie Shockley, Lucille Clifton, and three others here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126029674&ft=1&f=1032 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:08:57 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i think we were originally talking about those poets who actually play/make/sing music ???? On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:47:20 -0400 Ed Friedman writes: > Dear Snezana, > > > There are a lot of poets who have been involved with music in one > way or > another. Off the top of my head.... Some of the more famous ones: > Carl > Sandburg, Patti Smith, Jim Carroll, Amiri Baraka, Robert Hunter, > Cecil > Taylor, Ed Sanders, Tuli Kupferberg, Allen Ginsberg. Less famous: > Barbara > Barg, Maggie Dubris, Jim Brodey, Clark Coolidge, Jayne Cortez, Bob > Holman, > David Henderson, Elinor Nauen, Ravi Singh (Neal Hackman); Janet > Hamill; Jane > Siberry, Marc Nasdor, Ellen Carter and Sparrow (their band Foamola), > Vernon > Reid (more music than poetry), Vernon Frazer, Miguel Algarin, Ted > Greenwald, > David Meltzer, Steven Taylor, the late Sekou Sundiatta. Then there > are poets > who musically vocalize in performing their works (just to name a > few): > Tracie Morris, Anne Waldman, Jerome Rothenberg, Edwin Torres, the > late Pedro > Pietri. > > Some of my music activities over the years: wrote songs; played > guitar & > sang; mixed soundtrack music for various > readings/performances/plays; > collaborated fairly extensively with composer Garrett List; played > guitar > and sang in all-composer bands (the Charles Lee Redman Trio, the > Prairie > Oysters, and Peter Gordon¹s Love of Life Orchestra); wrote poems > with sung > lines in them. > > Sincerely, > > Ed Friedman > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:08:42 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit haiku reading at this year's Sakura Matsuri (Cherry Blossom Festival), at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden. steve dlachinsky, tony pupello, yuko otomo, cor van den huevel and others For those of you who don't know, the Brooklyn Botanic Garden has MORE species of cherry than anywhere outside of Japan. We don't have more trees than Washington - but way more varieties. And the festival boasts daiko drumming, ikebana, Butoh dance, and many, many other cultural events. If you plan on going, just make sure to get there early as the lines to get in can be daunting! (Folks are just clamoring to hear the haiku/senryu poets!). FREE Brooklyn Botanic Garden Sakura Matsuri Saturday, May 1st 2:00 - 3:00 PM Alfred T. White Memorial _________________________________________________________ May 14 7pm at Bowery Poetry Club steve dalachinsky jane and albey balgochian's basscentric ___________________________________________ May 22 - 2 pm at Grand Army Plaza Library steve dalachinsky and Matt Maneri ___________________________________________ Sunday June 20 - 2-5pm the Vision Festival presents @ AGathering of Tribes 285 East 3rd St. (between C & D - 2nd floor) donation to Tribes poetry by Jeff Wright Bob Heman Aaron Howard w/music to be announced Lewis Warsh Poetry & Music Albey Balgochian & Jane Barry Wallenstein Yuko Otomo - Shayna Dulberger Jake Marmer / plus musician to be announced Steve Dalachinsky Alexandre Pierrepont Tamara Gombert Musicians / Improvs Ellen Christi Ambrose Bie piano Max Johnson bass Andrew Barker drums Charles Waters reeds plus others On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:31:03 -0700 lora writes: > I am Lora Bloom, a poet whose outlet is mostly music these days. I > > > I am Lora Bloom, a poet whose outlet is mostly music these days. In > the late nineties I published a lot and started my own literary > magazine, Siren's Silence. Now my poems see light mostly in my band > "Radio Eris" http://www.myspace.com/radio5eris - we are an > experimental spoken-word outfit in Philadelphia. Some of my new > work, instead of being written, comes out as spontaneous > improvisations with the band. > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:13:58 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Vincent Subject: After Spicer - A Reading! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you happen to be in the Bay Area: What: After =0ASpicer =0A=0AWho: =0APoets: George=0AAlbon, Beverly Dahlen &= Stephen Vincent =0A=0A=0A=0AWhere: Books=0A &=0ABookshelves (14th & Sanche= z, San Francisco) =0A=0AWhen: 7:30,=0A Tuesday,=0AMay 4 =0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=A0= George=0A Albon will=0Aread from a new work in progress, Cafe=0AOrpheus. = =0A =0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=A0Beverly=0A Dahlen will=0Aread will read a brief intr= oduction, After=0ASpicer, and from =0A =0A=0AA-Reading=0A Spicer=0A& Eighte= en Sonnets. =0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=A0Stephen=0A Vincent will=0Aread selections fr= om After=0ALanguage / =0ALetters to=0AJack Spicer =0A =0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=A0Da= vid=0A Highsmith,=0Apoet, publisher & proprietor will host. =0A=0A(If=0A t= hirsty, the=0Amanagement suggests, please, BYOB).=A0=0A =0A=0A=A0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:20:18 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Douglas Manson Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <001401cadfd2$c46a56b0$4d3f0410$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A carrot is dangled in front of the artist (if a poetics is art). The artist wants the carrot (sound of empty stomach). The condition of art amidst capital=92s excesses, paroxysms, death grimaces= on a Halloween mask--the condition IS theft=97of the artist=92s work, mode of existence. The theft is all around you. The artist doesn=92t care about creativity, originality, authority, the art= ist wants the carrot. What else is pushing her to produce? The artist, except for weird anomalous individuals amongst millions who work in the arts, is never paid/given according to their contribution, unless that reciprocation appear outside the system entirely, with none of its inherent values. The only value to be gained by the artist must be an unvalued value. The artist=92s capacity and capabilities are enormous, while her needs are presumed to be few. Analyst=92s couch. Language of shipping offices. Art is theft: because the work envisaged needs no form, there is an unlimited number of previously constituted examples of the very form that s= o excited her. Why write? Only mix. Art is appropriation because there is no compelling reason to write from one=92s head or heart anymore. There ar= e nothing but examples of the conception already out there, one click away, already amply and fully articulated. Steal that. Mix it up a little. Sel= l it under your name. Theft? No, it's market. Moving units. One who can shift an icon most effectively onto their person, an affiliated name. The artist steals back the thing the culture demanded of her, and damned he= r for, or pays a heavy price. The operative condition IS theft. The work is stolen from the artist, reframed, engineered and mass produced, and then she must pay to consume it= . The EXPERIENCE of a work of art is pure gratuity. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:12 AM, John Cunningham < johncunningham366@gmail.com> wrote: > You have raised a question that I've been pondering for some time althou= gh > perhaps in a different context. This past Sunday, I had Steven Smith, > formerly of the sound poetry group Owen Sound as well as director of Sage > Hill Writing who is now director of Literary Arts at the Banff Centre, o= n > my radio show 'Speaking of Poets' heard every Sunday from 4:30 to 5:00 > p.m. > CST on CKUW 95.9 FM (and available for streaming or download from the CKU= W > website). We talked about the concepts of sampling and found poetry. I've > had poets as diverse as Karen Solie and Jan Conn to the experimental such > as > Erin Moure, Lisa Robertson and Angela Carr on the show who have used > these techniques. I have also had discussion with poets who are aghast at > this plagiarism. What are the parameters in these days of FLARF poetic > techniques for the legitimacy of 'borrowings'? When does one have to cite= ? > I've heard others who, if wanting to use a phrase, line or brief passage > from another writer's work actually indicate that they would send a > request > to that writer for permission to use that material. Is this necessary? > John Herbert Cunningham > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On > Behalf Of Maria Damon > Sent: April-17-10 5:37 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Art is theft > > here's a shot. but off the cuff. > art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of > activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much > ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and > others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses > good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? > being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because > of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive > genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as > stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. > stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. > > Ann Bogle wrote: > > Explain art is theft. > > > > I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in > > Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word = I > could > > think of for poor. > > > > The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimous= ly > > > cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's > > syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's rema= rk > is all? > > Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, > something > > about a mountain. > > > > I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had > read > > Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great > > artists incarcerate? > > > > Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? > > > > Chicago Style. 300 words. > > > > Ann Bogle > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:29:14 EDT Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ann Bogle Subject: Re: Art is theft MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Six answers so far. I'll keep it open while replies are oncoming. My objective is to realize something I haven't realized (come to believe) in reading poetry and observing other arts as well. In a message dated 4/17/2010 2:57:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, AMBogle2@AOL.COM writes: I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I could think of for poor. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:11:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Skip Fox Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <764940.68008.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "If art be theft which life reflects, And mind be life that art inflects, Then all--art, life & mind--be in such debt That steals the primacy of prime Unhinges light from time And . . ." The first lines of a boring poem discarded by Richard Lapauvre, ca. 1962. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:17:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "J.P. Craig" Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <001401cadfd2$c46a56b0$4d3f0410$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What if art is an invitation to attention? I've read a lot of different aesthetics and poetics and manifestos, and = this seems to be a recurring theme: "hey, consider this." There's a lot of evidence that we view attention as = appropriation/ownership: grasp, comprehend, "get it," and so on. And often our ways of saying "obscure" or "difficult" or "multiplex" = involve inability to grasp or penetrate. We wrestle with slippery = subjects, find it hard, impenetrable. Maybe there's some limitation in our imagination, sot that we have this = expression of body in any desire, even if it's to know something without = material qualities. But, so, yes, maybe art is theft in the same way that any apprehension = of the phenomenal world is theft, except art is inviting theft? So, for me, any reframing of words--even if it's saying that "I have = struggled and have finally rewritten Don Quixote perfectly, word for = word"--is an invitation for a new sort of attention and is therefore a = new work of art. So, no, maybe art can never be theft. Though of course art can be stolen, even if it's just a reproduction.* *And to that one special person: I know you, my pretty, have my Awede = edition of Articulation of Sound Forms in Time, my precious. On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:12 AM, John Cunningham wrote: > You have raised a question that I've been pondering for some time = although > perhaps in a different context. This past Sunday, I had Steven Smith, > formerly of the sound poetry group Owen Sound as well as director of = Sage > Hill Writing who is now director of Literary Arts at the Banff = Centre, on > my radio show 'Speaking of Poets' heard every Sunday from 4:30 to = 5:00 p.m. > CST on CKUW 95.9 FM (and available for streaming or download from the = CKUW > website). We talked about the concepts of sampling and found poetry. = I've > had poets as diverse as Karen Solie and Jan Conn to the experimental = such as > Erin Moure, Lisa Robertson and Angela Carr on the show who have used > these techniques. I have also had discussion with poets who are aghast = at > this plagiarism. What are the parameters in these days of FLARF poetic > techniques for the legitimacy of 'borrowings'? When does one have to = cite? > I've heard others who, if wanting to use a phrase, line or brief = passage > from another writer's work actually indicate that they would send a = request > to that writer for permission to use that material. Is this necessary? > John Herbert Cunningham >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] = On > Behalf Of Maria Damon > Sent: April-17-10 5:37 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Art is theft >=20 > here's a shot. but off the cuff. > art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of=20 > activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much=20= > ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and=20 > others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One = uses=20 > good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not?=20= > being a social animal and learning everything from others. but = because=20 > of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive=20= > genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as=20 > stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e.=20= > stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. >=20 > Ann Bogle wrote: >> Explain art is theft. >>=20 >> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in =20= >> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only = word I > could =20 >> think of for poor. >>=20 >> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men = unanimously >=20 >> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's =20 >> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's = remark > is all? =20 >> Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, > something=20 >> about a mountain. >>=20 >> I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had > read=20 >> Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great=20= >> artists incarcerate? >>=20 >> Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? >>=20 >> Chicago Style. 300 words. >>=20 >> Ann Bogle >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: = http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >>=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check = guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check = guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html JP Craig http://jpcraig.blogspot.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:36:42 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: gabriel siegel Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <4BCA380F.90505@umn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Change without exchange. On 4/17/10, Maria Damon wrote: > here's a shot. but off the cuff. > art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of > activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much > ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and > others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses > good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? > being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because > of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive > genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as > stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. > stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. > > Ann Bogle wrote: >> Explain art is theft. >> >> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in >> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I >> could >> think of for poor. >> >> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously >> >> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's >> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark >> is all? >> Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, >> something >> about a mountain. >> >> I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had >> read >> Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great >> artists incarcerate? >> >> Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? >> >> Chicago Style. 300 words. >> >> Ann Bogle >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:25:54 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Eleni Stecopoulos Subject: Poetics of Healing APRIL 29-MAY 1, SF & Berkeley In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 DQogKioqKiBQUkVTUyBSRUxFQVNFICoqKioNCkFwcmlsIDEzLCAyMDEwDQpDb250YWN0OiBwb2V0 cnlAc2ZzdS5lZHUNCjQxNeKAkDMzOOKAkDIyMjcNCg0KVGhlIFBvZXRyeSBDZW50ZXINCmF0IFNh biBGcmFuY2lzY28gU3RhdGUgVW5pdmVyc2l0eQ0KcHJlc2VudHMNCg0KVGh1cnNkYXkgQVBSSUwg Mjkg4oCUIFNhdHVyZGF5IE1BWSAxDQpUSEUgUE9FVElDUyBPRiBIRUFMSU5HDQoNCnRocmVlZGF5 DQpPTElNUElBUyBBUlRJU1RTIFJFU0lERU5DWQ0KYSBzZXJpZXMgb2YgcHJvZ3JhbXMgd2l0aCBz cGVjaWFsIGd1ZXN0IGFydGlzdHMgYW5kIGRpc2FiaWxpdHkgY3VsdHVyZSBhY3RpdmlzdHMNClBl dHJhIEt1cHBlcnMg4oCiIE5laWwgTWFyY3VzIOKAog0KU2FkaWUgV2lsY294IOKAoiBjdXJhdGVk 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2010, at 1:53 PM, Chris Chapman wrote: > theft + disguise = metaphor? > > 1. theft: a repetition that doesn't use negation for instantiation. > eg.: a, a not a, A. > 2. disguise: a different species within one genus. > 3. metaphor: gifts of insubordinate resemblance > > if art is the use of metaphor, creative comparison, then it is theft. Ah, but this is an example of begging the question. gb > > > > > > On 4/17/10, George Bowering wrote: >> On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: >> >>> Explain art is theft. >>> >> >> Yeah. I agree that explain art is the worst kind of art. >> >> But I don't think that it is theft. >> >> >> gb >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/ > welcome.html Georges Bowering, OC If you say so. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:17:44 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: George Bowering Subject: Re: this Friday: Joron, Loden, Giscombe at the de Young in SF In-Reply-To: <0B7F40E4CF684A97AB2DAE315206F828@GlassCastle> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Boy, I wish I were in SF! But I have to be in Edmonton tomorrow. gb On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Rachel Loden wrote: > C.S. Giscombe, Andrew Joron, and Rachel Loden > read from their work at the de Young Museum > > > Koret Auditorium > Friday, April 23, 7 p.m. > > Free to Museum members; $5 for all others > > > > The de Young Museum of Fine Art > 50 Hagiwara Tea Garden Drive > Golden Gate Park > San Francisco > > > > Parking lot inside the museum: > enter on Fulton just west of Park Presidio Drive > > > > More info at the de Young Web site: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/yj7vm5g > > > > or > > > > http://www.famsf.org/deyoung/calendar/day.asp?categoryid=62 > categoryid=62&calendarid=5234 > &day=4%2F2%2F2010> &calendarid=5234&day=4%2F2%2F2010 > > > > Andrew Joron was born in San Antonio, Texas, in 1955, and grew up in > Stuttgart, Germany; Lowell, Massachusetts; and Missoula, Montana. He > attended U.C. Berkeley, where he majored in history and philosophy of > science. After a decade and a half spent writing science-fiction > poetry, > culminating in his volume Science Fiction (Pantograph Press, 1992), he > turned to a more philosophical mode of speculative lyric. This work > has been > collected in The Removes (Hard Press, 1999), Fathom (Black Square > Editions, > 2003) and The Sound Mirror (Flood Editions, 2008). He is also the > translator, from the German, of the Marxist-Utopian philosopher Ernst > Bloch's Literary Essays (Stanford University Press, 1998), and of the > surrealist Richard Anders's aphorisms and prose poems. His literary > essays > have been collected in The Cry at Zero (Counterpath Press, 2008). City > Lights will publish his Trance Archive: New and Selected Poems in > the spring > of 2010. Joron lives in Berkeley, where he works as a freelance > bibliographer and indexer. > > > > Rachel Loden is the author of Dick of the Dead, currently one of five > finalists for the California Book Award. The Washington Post's "Poet's > Choice" column featured a poem from the book, and it has been > called "oddly > sublime" and "intoxicating" by the Poetry Project Newsletter and > "expansive > and whimsical" by the Brooklyn Rail. Loden's first book, Hotel > Imperium, won > the Contemporary Poetry Series competition and was selected as one > of the > ten best poetry books of the year by the San Francisco Chronicle, > which > called it "quirky and beguiling." It was also shortlisted for the > Bay Area > Book Reviewers Award. Her work has appeared in New American > Writing, the > Paris Review, Jacket, two editions of the Best American Poetry > series, and > many other magazines and anthologies. She is the recipient of a > Pushcart > Prize, a Fellowship in Poetry from the California Arts Council, an > &NOW > Award, and a grant from the Fund for Poetry. > > > > C. S. Giscombe has authored books of poetry Prairie Style, Giscombe > Road, > and Here, and the nonfiction book Into and Out of Dislocation. His > poetry > has been published in several anthologies, including Best American > Poetry, > Oxford Anthology of African American Poetry, Lyric Postmoderns, and > elsewhere. Giscombe was recently awarded the American Book Award > for 2008 > for Prairie Style. He currently is a Professor of Poetry at U.C. > Berkeley. > > > > The de Young Poetry Series is curated by Paul Hoover, a poet, > editor, and > professor of creative writing at San Francisco State University. > > > > Advance tickets: > > > > https://tickets.famsf.org/public/ > > > > > > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/ > welcome.html Mr. G.H. Bowering Does not get up immoderately early. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:08:28 -0400 Reply-To: halvard@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My thoughts exactly. You thief. Hal Halvard Johnson ================ The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye (downloadable and free) is @ http://www.scribd.com/doc/27039868/Halvard-Johnson-THE-PERFECTION-OF-MOZART-S-THIRD-EYE-Other-Sonnets halvard@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jason Quackenbush wrote: > The word "is" functions both as copula and expression of identity. If I say > "X is Y" I can mean either that Y is some way of describing X or that X and > Y are identical. If they are identical then they can be substituted for one > another in a sentence without any change in meaning. Observe: 1.) "Theft is > the taking of something from someone who has more right to possess it than > the thief." 2.) "Art is the taking of something from someone who has more > right to possess it than the artist." If there is no change in meaning here, > then "Art is Theft" is a mere expression of identity. This is not the case. > Therefore "is" in this sentence is functioning as a copula. In that case > theft is a predicate of art. It is possible that the sentences "Art is > theft" and "Art is yellow" are both true in a way that would not be possible > if the "is" in both sentences were functioning as a marker of identity. To > explain "Art is theft" you must therefore just know what "theft" means as a > predicate. As such it is worth pointing out that theft as a predicate > indicates that art is a crime, art takes possession of some (intellectual) > property that does not belong to the artist. To create art then is to > appropriate and to do wrong; to be guilty and deserving of punishment. "Art > is theft" is therefore a condemnation of God as first creator for creating > us and a warning to artists that there is nothing redemptive in what they > do. In creation, the artist takes from infinite possibility and fixes in > imitation the previously unrealized. Such an act is clearly larcenous and > its perpetrators mere criminals trafficking in contraband. > > > On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: > > Explain art is theft. >> >> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in >> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I >> could >> think of for poor. >> >> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously >> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's >> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark >> is all? >> Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, >> something >> about a mountain. >> >> I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had >> read >> Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great >> artists incarcerate? >> >> Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? >> >> Chicago Style. 300 words. >> >> Ann Bogle >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:47:43 +0000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Edmund Hardy Subject: Delay-Line Memory: I.S. Spring 2010 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An index of everything since the last update:http://intercapillaryspace.blo= gspot.com/2010/04/spring-2010.html "This savage anomaly" ESSAYS Alex Latter=2C "Scheming for the possible world": J.H. Prynne's The White Stones and The English Intelligencer Peter Larkin=2C Scarcely on the Way: The Starkness of Things in Sacral Space Robin Purves=2C To =93Iceland=94: On Improvisation During The Fall Peter Larkin=2C Being Seen for Seeing: a tribute to R F Langley's Journals Abena Sutherland=2C On John Ashbery's 'Definition of Blue' Michael Peverett=2C Athwart Ralph Hawkins=2C Frank O=92Hara=92s 'Naphtha' Ralph Hawkins=2C Underwhelmed. Ted Berrigan via John Wilkinson. INTERVIEWS The desire to testify: Interview with Chris Goode by Lawrence Upton Less than=2C more at: an interview with Peter Larkin POETRY Olwen Hughes=2C "I was an Aries once": 3 Poems Jonty Tiplady=2C Happiness 4 Harry Godwin=2C Experiments in Deconstruction : Flushing Sean Bonney=2C The Commons set 3 // 31 =96 33=2C 27 =96 28=2C Two poems (after Rimbaud) Carrie Etter=2C Divining for Starters (65) Nathan Hamilton=2C Sunbathe Johan de Wit=2C from annulus Ralph Hawkins and Alan Halsey=2C From 'The Incomplete Pseudo-Necronomicon' Tina Bass=2C 2 Poems Peter Larkin=2C Lean Earth Off Trees Unaslant=2C IV Steve Parker=2C 3 Poems Anna Ticehurst=2C 3 Poems Tom White=2C from 'Old Sense' Jeff Hilson=2C In the Assarts 31 - 36 William King=2C How To Eat Federico Garc=EDa Lorca=2C traduced by Michael Peverett=2C Nueva York=2C again Jenny Allan=2C Adapted from Intermittent Voices Josh Stanley=2C 3 Poems Timothy Thornton=2C A Poem John Welch=2C Fresco John Lowther=2C from Correspondences Matina Stamatakis=2C Behind Eyes Hannah Silva=2C A Poem Jennifer Cooke=2C A Poem REVIEWS Stuart Calton reviews Ryan Dobran's Your Guilt Is A Miracle=20 'Variable Magnitudes: The Wrack of Watts' by Edmund Hardy Catherine Daly's Vauxhall reviewed by Michael Peverett The Eye on James Wilkes' Weather A System Ralph Hawkins: Poly-Parrot(s). Allen Fisher's Birds Tony Lopez=2C Darwin=2C reviewed by Michael Peverett Alistair Noon on Ralph Hawkins: No Artificial Additives or Colourings Edmund Hardy: Modifiers & Indistinctions - Jonty Tiplady's 'Zam Bonk Dip' Xtin on Poetical Histories No. 3=2C D. S. Marriott's Mortgages Nathan Hamilton: Babylon=92s Flowcharts - Kumin=2C Hoch=2C Fried Peter Jaeger in and of the world - Melissa Flores-B=F3rquez and Edmund Hardy review 'Rapid Eye Movemen= t' Michael Peverett on Leevi Lehto's Lake Onega and Other Poems Michael Peverett on Anne Campbell's No Memory of a Move Wendy Mulford & the Escape - Melissa Flores-B=F3rquez and Edmund Hardy Simon Pettet=92s HEARTH reviewed by Ralph Hawkins Abena Sutherland - "a brackish ring / for you": Stuart Calton's The Corn Mother Lisa Samuels' The Invention of Culture reviewed by Michael Peverett Peter Hughes on Ian Seed's Anonymous Intruder Peverett on Reality Street's 'Five from Finland' Peter Hughes on John Welch's Collected Poems Peter Larkin on GLOGY by Josh Stanley Pentti Saarikoski=2C The Edge of Europe=2C by Michael Peverett Walking the Streets of Eighteenth-Century London: John Gay's Trivia (Edited by Clare Brant and Sus= an E. Whyman) reviewed by Melissa Flores-B=F3rquez Melissa Flores-B=F3rquez on Ben Borek Michael Peverett reviews Gunnar Bj=F6rling=2C You go the words Peter Hughes on Anselm Hollo=2C Guests of Space Laura Steele on Stephen Brockwell Edmund Hardy: Rage & Suspense - R. F. Langley=2C Journals Colin Falck's Post-Modern Love reviewed by Michael Peverett Elizabeth Willis' The Great Egg of Night reviewed by Michael Peverett rob mclennan's aubade reviewed by Michael Peverett Peter Hughes on Andrew Duncan Philippe Viellard: Like a Book out of Hell - Boccaccio's Life of Dante Michael Peverett: Catherine Daly=2C That Locket Sound Laura Steele: Allen Fisher's Place Michael Peverett: Donald Ward - Lark Over Stone Walls INVESTIGATIONS Real time diagrammatic reviews of readings at Xing the Line in 2009 Michael Peverett - Robert Browning's Strafford Melissa Flores-B=F3rquez investigates Gilberto Freyre=2C and John Gay's Tyburn Tree Abena Sutherland: Bouncing Over Death - Gay & Ariosto Michael Peverett investigates Samples from The Many Press=3B The Best of William Canton=3B Some Denise Riley poems=3B Charles Dickens=2C The Old Curiosity Shop=3B John Gay's The Birth of the Squire=3B the end of Richard Makin's St Leonards=3B and surveys Euripides. Laura Steele: Buzz Off - Gay=2C Mandeville=2C Eutopia Edmund Hardy investigates The rhetoric of land law=3B The art of instruction=3B Index Humour=3B Hip-hop & the Autobiographical - Ice T=2C Biggie=2C Cannibal Ox= =2C Estelle=2C and=2C in passing=2C Jurassic 5. FINAL CHEERFUL SING-A-LONG BEFORE THE RETURN TO USELESS PASSIONS Lyrics to Kenzo Masaoka's classic cartoon KUMO-TO-CHURIPPU (Spider and Tulip=2C 1943) translated=2C w= ith accompanying video. =20 _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny=2C exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell = us now= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:14:36 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Caleb Cluff Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 I've heard that before. -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Beh= alf Of mIEKAL aND Sent: Monday, 19 April 2010 11:56 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Art is theft By definition originality is impossible. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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GB On Apr 13, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Cecelia Belle wrote: > Just had to write in to congratulate, Rae, and don't know how to > get a hold > of her; to say David Bromige was a Huge fan of Rae's, and often > quoted her > line, " the smallest distance inexhaustible". ( Hope I got it > right.) He > would be so pleased. So am I. Cecelia Belle Bromige > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On > Behalf Of Caleb Cluff > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:48 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Rae's Pulitzer > > Another great (greater) poet acknowledged: - Special citation: Hank > Williams > for his craftsmanship as a songwriter who expressed universal > feelings with > poignant simplicity and played a pivotal role in transforming > country music > into a major musical and cultural force in American life. > > Caleb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Nelson > Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2010 7:54 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Rae's Pulitzer > > So good to see someone whose work you value get one of these things: > > Poetry: "Versed," by Rae Armantrout (Wesleyan University Press), a > book > striking for its wit and linguistic inventiveness, offering poems that > are often little thought-bombs detonating in the mind long after the > first reading. Finalists: "Tryst," by Angie Estes (Oberlin College > Press), a collection of poems remarkable for its variety of subjects, > array of genres and nimble use of language, and "Inseminating the > Elephant," by Lucia Perillo (Copper Canyon Press), a collection of > poems, often laced with humor, that examine popular culture, the > limits > of the human body and the tragicomic aspects of everyday experience. > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/ > AR2010041202 > 750_2.html?sid=ST2010041202826 > > Paul E. Nelson > > Global Voices Radio > SPLAB! > > C. City, WA 206.422.5002 > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:07:59 -0700 Reply-To: derek beaulieu Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: derek beaulieu Subject: new from NO press: Vanessa Place's THE ALLEGORY AND THE ARCHIVE Comments: To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@invalid.domain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No press is proud to announce the publication of Vanessa Place's THE ALLEGORY AND THE ARCHIVE 28pp, sewn binding published in an edition of 50 copies (25 of which are for sale) $5 each for more information, or to order copies, please email: derek beaulieu derek@housepress.ca http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/beaulieu/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:52:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Al Filreis Subject: new at PennSound: Wallace Stevens Comments: To: Charles Bernstein Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are pleased to announce a new PennSound author page - that of Wallace Stevens. We begin by making available two recordings made in Boston - a project in collaboration with the Woodberry Poetry Room at Harvard. New Stevens recordings will be added to this page in the coming months: http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Stevens-Wallace.html We especially wish to thank Christina Davis, Peter Hanchak, and John Serio. - Al Filreis & Charles Bernstein Co-Directors, PennSound ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:23:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nana Zabic Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, In addition to this lengthening thread, I've received over 20 e-mails outside of the list in response to my vague query, so thank you all for that. Lots of names and links to music, so many in fact, it's will take a lot of time to get to all of them. Things are crystallizing in my head a little bit, so here's the current condition of my thoughts. I had in mind poets who perform in rock/pop/hip-hop idioms rather than poets who perform their texts accompanied by music and/or sound, and I didn't have in mind sound poetics. Tracie Morris is simply Tracie Morris, a poet who works with sound and rhythm kind of like a musician would, and I'm a fan, but that's not the kind of a poet I'm after in this query. (Although I find it pretty fascinating that she has said that she went into poetry even though she wanted to be an MC, but found it too daunting to struggle with the sexism in the industry side of the game; I paraphrase from memory here, I apologize if I'm completely twisting her words.) I'm not even after poets who work mainly with text, but who often collaborate with musicians for the sake of performance, or for the sake of experimenting with various historic avant-garde or neo-avant practices. The reason I'm not pointing my searchlight in that direction is because such a practice is very much out in the open and I can easily click on the bookmark tab in my browser and listen to stuff on ubuweb or pennsound, etc. I'm a fan of that too. Poets who perform their texts also routinely mention such practices in their bio blurbs and interviews, as they well should! The reason why I'm after the poets who work in rock/pop/hip-hop idioms is that it seems to me that poets who play/sing/rap/spin in bands may be numerous, but they keep that kind of music separate from their poetic practice and don't let the two worlds overlap too much and therefore they can't be found on a fictive rock/pop/hip-hop equivalent of ubuweb. My hypothesis would be that it's because we are programmed to specialize and be professionals, to be afraid of being marginalized as someone who dabbles in poetry and in music side-by-side. Someone said in their reply to me that no one can "dabble" in music, because it takes too much work and practice. That's true. You can't dabble in music or poetry as far as creating it goes. I didn't mean by "dabble" that someone out there plays a triangle every once in a while and claims they're musicians or writes limericks for fun and claims they're poets :-) But however much you practice and perform, unless you are at least a little bit successful and have a following, you'll be perceived as a dabbler, right? I'm sort of interested in reception/perception and playing the game, rather than abstracted artistic practice. There is then the global question of "the game" and to what extent combining the practice of writing cerebral poetry with the practice of playing silly music (that is supposed to make people literally shake, dance, mosh, head-bang, or at least bop), is beneficial or detrimental to one's "career." (I actually have no doubts that this combo can only be good artistically for the resulting texts and music, as long as the poet/musician in question has enough time to devote to each interest and doesn't need much sleep.) And just to be completely honest, there is a personal stake in my query in that I've recently begun playing and singing in two bands, am writing a lot of songs and starting to perform in clubs etc., while I'm of course still writing and translating poetry, sending it out, and trying to get published, succeeding here and there. But the sheer number of responses this has gotten makes me think a) this list is full of friendly people helping me come up with my little database of poet/musicians, and b) there is a bigger issue here than my ego-centric soul-searching. I didn't expect that my query would yield such an avalanche of information, so thanks, and please share your further thoughts on this topic. Best, Snezana (Nana for short :-) On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Camille Martin wrote: > I'm a recovering pianist - master's degree at a conservatory - now compos= ing a song cycle from some of poems in my recently-released Sonnets. > > If any sopranos out there would like to look at the scores or hear a soun= d file, let me know. One is a capella, and the rest have piano accompanimen= t. > > Camille Martin > > http://www.shearsman.com/pages/books/catalog/2010/martin.html > http://www.camillemartin.ca > http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com > ________________________________________ > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf O= f Philip Meersman [philip.meersman@GMAIL.COM] > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 6:22 AM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble i= n music?) > > The Belgian Poet Dirk Elst, you can also add to your list. > You can find more on him on his blogsite: http://dirkelst.blogspot.com/ w= hich > is in Dutch but he writes and performs also in English, see also: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVv538I9hdVk&feature=3Drelated, > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtOo_WM-bWbk and > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvZnZc5ZH9mU > > Fragments out of one of his latest performance shows. > I worked with Dirk for several performances and I recommend him as a poet= , a > performer and a musician. > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Jason Quackenbush wrote: > >> i was a musician before i was a poet. i went to berklee college of music >> and graduated from their electronic music and recording program. i still >> compose but i mostly keep it to myself. >> >> >> >> On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Nana Zabic wrote: >> >> =A0Hi All, >>> >>> I'm cataloging, in my head at the moment, contemporary poets I've read >>> and/or met who also play/sing/rap/spin in bands or solo, or at least >>> did for a period of time in the past. I'm not coming up with a whole >>> lot of names, but I have this hunch that there is a lot of us, >>> although we don't necessarily mention our double lives in our bio >>> blurbs. >>> >>> If you are or know a poet who is/was also a musician in any shape or >>> form, please respond here or e-mail me at szabic2@gmail.com. I don't >>> have a clear goal in mind as to why I'm cataloging this phenomenon. >>> But there might be an event in the future. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Snezana >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >>> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.htm= l >>> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guideli= nes >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > > > -- > Philip Meersman > !!! New Address > Tentoonstellingslaan 418, bus 46 > 1090 Jette > Belgium > tel+32 (0)476 576 287 > www.myspace.com/spooninmybrain > www.facebook.com/spooninmybrain > www.youtube.com/spooninmybrain > skype: Spooninmybrain > philip.meersman@gmail.com > www.poetasdelmundo.com/verInfo_europa.asp?ID=3D4337 > 21/03/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) > 02/04/10: Performance opening expo "Love Letters", KULTOUR10, Sint-Niklaa= s, > BE (http://www.kultour10.be/kultour10/index.php/podium/31-qspooninmybrain= q) > 16/04/10: "Binnenkort ook in navulpak" op het Once upon a Festival, Kaste= el > van Laarne, BE (www.onceuponafestival.be) > 21/04/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) > 05/05/10-09/05/10: Literature festival of Tallinn, Estonia > 21/05/10: BruSlam, GalerY, Bxl, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) > 21/07/10: BruSlam, HotsyTotsy, Ghent, BE (http://bruslam.over-blog.com) > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:50:18 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: above/ground press: out-of-print (sale!); Digging through boxes recently, I discovered a few extra copies of older chapbooks considered out-of-print (just what will he discover next? ). 2010 subscriptions still available. 1. John Barton. DESTINATIONS, LEAVING THE MAP. Published in an edition of 100 copies, September 12, 1995, for a reading by John Barton at the TREE Reading Series. 16 pages. The poems later appeared as part of Sweet Ellipsis (Toronto ON: ECW Press, 1998). Barton is current editor of The Malahat Review. $40. 2. Michael Holmes. 21 Hotels. Published in an edition 210 copies, September 1998 (reprinted from an earlier self-publication, August 1998, of an edition of 21). Design by Paul Davies. 24 pages. Not yet appeared in a single-author trade, but reprinted in Groundswell: the best of above/ground press, 1993-2003 (Fredericton NB: Broken Jaw Press, 2003). Holmes is current editor at Groundswell: best of above/ground press, 1993-2003ECW Press. $40. 3. Barry McKinnon. in the millennium. Published in an edition of 250 copies, April 2000. Cover design & production by jwcurry (on gestetner). Later appeared as part of In The Millennium (New Star Books, 2009). 12 pages. $30. 4. George Bowering as Ellen Field. A, Youre Adorable. Published in an edition of 200 copies, October 1998 (later reprinted admitting Bowerings authorship by above/ground press, October 2004). A fraction appeared in (where Bowering first publicly admits the pseudonym) in Changing on the Fly, The Best Lyric Poems of George Bowering (Vancouver BC: Polestar Books, 2004), and later, in full, in his Vermeer's Light: Poems 1996-2006 (Vancouver BC: Talonbooks, 2006). 28 pages. $40. 5. PURDYESQUE. Ed. rob mclennan. Published in an edition of 250 copies, May 2006, for a poetry reading on May 7th, 2006 as part of the conference Al / Purdy: The Ivory Thought at the University of Ottawa (May 5-7, 2006). Poems by George Bowering, Stephen Brockwell, Gwendolyn Guth, Steven Heighton & rob mclennan. 24 pages. $10. Add $1 for postage; outside Canada, all prices in US currency (& add another $2 for postage). Make cheques payable to rob mclennan, c/o 858 Somerset Street West, main floor, Ottawa Ontario K1R 6R7 above/ground press; killing trees for literature since 1993; http://www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/ -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:22:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Matthew Landis Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <001401cadfd2$c46a56b0$4d3f0410$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1 the translation and appropriation of not only that which we approve of or value but that which is most reprehensible; to separate the intentionality of the author from the production of meaning and EMBRACE exemplarity not just as an argumentative or rhetorical strategy, but as a poetics in and of itself: to let the detritus of our cultural and politcal lives speak on their own terms---to think of the poet less as the painter and more as the craftsman who constructs the frame 2 this past decade and the future of poetry has eroded the pretense of the confessional and the vulgarity of the topical & the opportunism of influence---in the sense that the topical simply adopts the tropes and rhetorical logic of media's narrative structure--- (ie, the war is happening, we oppose the war, but how long can you write about war? what happens when the war is over? do we just find another war? and if there is none do we sit around WAITING for one with baited breath?) it highlights the value of the poetic voice addressing and reflecting the everyday--- of interrupting and detourning; of intervening in the narratives, language, thought--processes and values of our present culture and thereby, not only oppose & question the logic and practice of war, but the behavior, language, and philosophical foundation that war is built upon--- to construct dialectical "IMAGES" which are concrete (in the vispo and literal sense), enduring, and impactful collections and galleries of the ephemera & carrion of culture; as well as the traumatic and the horroific; as well as the joyful and celebratory--- not in the delusional quest for permanence or tradition but the wholly absurd and yet wholly necessary quest to use poetry to not only settle those unsettled debts of history, but to challenge the very notion of indebtedness--- to light the fuses which will result in these explosions of these dialectical images in the minds of the reader: to write poetry in the service of uncovering and enacting new consciousness. 3 the love of linguistic play, an anarchistic spree celebrating the freedom of consciousnes, which is the endless possibility of the verbal expression of consciousness that is language---fashioning "chorals out of random input" John Cunningham wrote: > You have raised a question that I've been pondering for some time although > perhaps in a different context. This past Sunday, I had Steven Smith, > formerly of the sound poetry group Owen Sound as well as director of Sage > Hill Writing who is now director of Literary Arts at the Banff Centre, on > my radio show 'Speaking of Poets' heard every Sunday from 4:30 to 5:00 p.m. > CST on CKUW 95.9 FM (and available for streaming or download from the CKUW > website). We talked about the concepts of sampling and found poetry. I've > had poets as diverse as Karen Solie and Jan Conn to the experimental such as > Erin Moure, Lisa Robertson and Angela Carr on the show who have used > these techniques. I have also had discussion with poets who are aghast at > this plagiarism. What are the parameters in these days of FLARF poetic > techniques for the legitimacy of 'borrowings'? When does one have to cite? > I've heard others who, if wanting to use a phrase, line or brief passage > from another writer's work actually indicate that they would send a request > to that writer for permission to use that material. Is this necessary? > John Herbert Cunningham > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On > Behalf Of Maria Damon > Sent: April-17-10 5:37 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Art is theft > > here's a shot. but off the cuff. > art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of > activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much > ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and > others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses > good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? > being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because > of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive > genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as > stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. > stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. > > Ann Bogle wrote: > >> Explain art is theft. >> >> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in >> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I >> > could > >> think of for poor. >> >> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously >> > > >> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's >> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark >> > is all? > >> Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, >> > something > >> about a mountain. >> >> I was glad after renting Tom& Viv years after its release that I had >> > read > >> Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great >> artists incarcerate? >> >> Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? >> >> Chicago Style. 300 words. >> >> Ann Bogle >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >> > guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > >> >> > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:16:28 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: An Armantrout Admission ... Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In response to Pound ... ...and on an anarchic cooperation, here -- http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/with-no-slither/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:27:20 -0400 Reply-To: Aryanil Mukherjee Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Aryanil Mukherjee Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: <25726882.495211271777021439.JavaMail.root@dom-zbox1.bo3.lycos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To some writing traditions (could be even looked at racially)=C2=A0music ha= s remanied central to the creation of poetic arts.=20 In Bengal, for example, virtually every poet is a singer. Some make music, = write music and=C2=A0some don't. But its hard to come across a Bengali poet= who is not into music - vocal or instrumental or can't sing or doesn't hav= e=C2=A0melody in his voice- brain.=20 Let me spare "noise" music from this note. "Noise music" isn't the first th= ing ancient musical traditions look for and furthermore any & every music i= s eventually "noise music". Let me put it that way.=20 Aryanil=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "steve dalachinsky" =20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:38:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in = music?)=20 =C2=A0haiku reading at this year's=20 Sakura Matsuri (Cherry Blossom Festival), at the Brooklyn Botanic=20 Garden.=20 =C2=A0=20 steve dlachinsky, tony pupello, yuko otomo, cor van den huevel and others= =20 =C2=A0For those of you who don't know, the=20 Brooklyn Botanic Garden has MORE species of cherry than anywhere outside=20 of Japan. =C2=A0We don't have more trees than Washington - but way more=20 varieties. =C2=A0And the festival boasts daiko drumming, ikebana, Butoh=20 dance, and many, many other cultural events.=20 =C2=A0=20 If you plan on going, just make sure to get there early as the lines to=20 get in can be daunting! =C2=A0(Folks are just clamoring to hear the=20 haiku/senryu poets!). =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0FREE=20 Brooklyn Botanic Garden=20 Sakura Matsuri=20 Saturday, May 1st=20 2:00 - 3:00 PM=20 Alfred T. White Memorial=20 _________________________________________________________=20 May 14 =C2=A07pm =C2=A0at Bowery Poetry Club=20 steve dalachinsky jane and albey balgochian's=20 basscentric =C2=A0=20 ___________________________________________=20 May 22 - 2 pm at Grand Army Plaza Library=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0steve dalachinsky and Matt Maneri=20 ___________________________________________=20 Sunday June 20 - 2-5pm=20 the Vision Festival presents @ AGathering of Tribes=20 285 East 3rd St. (between C & D - 2nd floor)=20 donation to Tribes=20 poetry by=20 Jeff Wright=20 Bob Heman=20 Aaron Howard w/music to be announced=20 Lewis Warsh=20 Poetry & Music=20 Albey Balgochian & Jane=20 Barry Wallenstein=20 Yuko Otomo - Shayna Dulberger=20 Jake Marmer / plus musician to be announced=20 Steve Dalachinsky=20 Alexandre Pierrepont=20 Tamara Gombert=20 Musicians / Improvs=20 Ellen Christi=20 Ambrose Bie piano=20 Max Johnson bass=20 Andrew Barker drums=20 Charles Waters reeds=20 plus others=20 On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:31:03 -0700 lora =20 writes:=20 > I am Lora Bloom, a poet whose outlet is mostly music these days. =C2=A0I= =20 >=20 >=20 > I am Lora Bloom, a poet whose outlet is mostly music these days. =C2=A0In= =20 > the late nineties I published a lot and started my own literary=20 > magazine, Siren's Silence. =C2=A0Now my poems see light mostly in my band= =20 > "Radio Eris" http://www.myspace.com/radio5eris - we are an=20 > experimental spoken-word outfit in Philadelphia. =C2=A0Some of my new=20 > work, instead of being written, =C2=A0comes out as =C2=A0spontaneous=20 > improvisations with the band.=20 >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check=20 > guidelines & sub/unsub info:=20 > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=20 >=20 >=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:28:27 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: teersteeg Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <4BCC835A.7020008@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On its own art doesn't exist--like a tree or a rock exist. It's empty air. Someone has to make something out of something then someone calls it art. brunoT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Landis" To: Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Art is theft > 1 > > the translation and appropriation of not > only that which we approve of or > value but that which is most reprehensible; > > to separate the intentionality of > the author from the production of meaning > and EMBRACE exemplarity > > not just as an argumentative or > rhetorical strategy, but as a > poetics in and of itself: > > to let the detritus of our cultural > and politcal lives speak > on their own terms---to think of > > the poet less as the painter and > more as the craftsman who > constructs the frame > > > 2 > > this past decade and the future of poetry > has eroded the pretense of the confessional > and the vulgarity of the topical & the opportunism > of influence---in the sense that the topical simply > adopts the tropes and rhetorical logic of media's > narrative structure--- (ie, the war is happening, we > oppose the war, but how long can you write about war? > what happens when the war is over? do we just find > another war? and if there is none do we sit around > WAITING for one with baited breath?) it highlights the > value of the poetic voice addressing and reflecting the > everyday--- of interrupting and detourning; of intervening > in the narratives, language, thought--processes and values of > our present culture and thereby, not only oppose & question > the logic and practice of war, but the behavior, language, and > philosophical foundation that war is built upon--- to construct > dialectical "IMAGES" which are concrete (in the vispo and literal > sense), enduring, and impactful collections and galleries of > the ephemera & carrion of culture; as well as the traumatic > and the horroific; as well as the joyful and celebratory--- not > in the delusional quest for permanence or tradition but > the wholly absurd and yet wholly necessary quest to use poetry > to not only settle those unsettled debts of history, but to challenge > the very notion of indebtedness--- to light the fuses which will result > in these explosions of these dialectical images in the minds of the > reader: to write poetry in the service of uncovering and enacting > new consciousness. > > > 3 > > the > love of > linguistic play, an > anarchistic spree celebrating the > freedom of consciousnes, which is > the endless possibility of the verbal > expression of consciousness that is language---fashioning > "chorals out of random input" > > > > John Cunningham wrote: >> You have raised a question that I've been pondering for some time >> although >> perhaps in a different context. This past Sunday, I had Steven Smith, >> formerly of the sound poetry group Owen Sound as well as director of Sage >> Hill Writing who is now director of Literary Arts at the Banff Centre, >> on >> my radio show 'Speaking of Poets' heard every Sunday from 4:30 to 5:00 >> p.m. >> CST on CKUW 95.9 FM (and available for streaming or download from the >> CKUW >> website). We talked about the concepts of sampling and found poetry. I've >> had poets as diverse as Karen Solie and Jan Conn to the experimental such >> as >> Erin Moure, Lisa Robertson and Angela Carr on the show who have used >> these techniques. I have also had discussion with poets who are aghast at >> this plagiarism. What are the parameters in these days of FLARF poetic >> techniques for the legitimacy of 'borrowings'? When does one have to >> cite? >> I've heard others who, if wanting to use a phrase, line or brief passage >> from another writer's work actually indicate that they would send a >> request >> to that writer for permission to use that material. Is this necessary? >> John Herbert Cunningham >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Maria Damon >> Sent: April-17-10 5:37 PM >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >> Subject: Re: Art is theft >> >> here's a shot. but off the cuff. >> art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of >> activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much >> ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and >> others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses >> good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? >> being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because >> of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive >> genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as >> stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. >> stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. >> >> Ann Bogle wrote: >> >>> Explain art is theft. >>> >>> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in >>> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I >>> >> could >> >>> think of for poor. >>> >>> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men >>> unanimously >>> >> >> >>> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's >>> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's >>> remark >>> >> is all? >> >>> Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, >>> >> something >> >>> about a mountain. >>> >>> I was glad after renting Tom& Viv years after its release that I had >>> >> read >> >>> Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great >>> artists incarcerate? >>> >>> Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? >>> >>> Chicago Style. 300 words. >>> >>> Ann Bogle >>> >>> ================================== >>> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >>> >> guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >>> >>> >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:59:02 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Christophe Casamassima Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <4BCC835A.7020008@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable last night i hosted the 3rd reading of our cruellest month series. i wrote out instructions for our audience: to appropriate lines from the poets and write their own poems, which we're plastering to our office walls. i have pictures from the event, with a big sign that says "ART=3DTHEFT" so funny On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Matthew Landis wrote: > 1 > > the translation and appropriation of not > only that which we approve of or > value but that which is most reprehensible; > > to separate the intentionality of > the author from the production of meaning > and EMBRACE exemplarity > > not just as an argumentative or > rhetorical strategy, but as a > poetics in and of itself: > > to let the detritus of our cultural > and politcal lives speak > on their own terms---to think of > > the poet less as the painter and > more as the craftsman who > constructs the frame > > > 2 > > this past decade and the future of poetry > has eroded the pretense of the confessional > and the vulgarity of the topical & the opportunism > of influence---in the sense that the topical simply > adopts the tropes and rhetorical logic of media's > narrative structure--- (ie, the war is happening, we > oppose the war, but how long can you write about war? > what happens when the war is over? do we just find > another war? and if there is none do we sit around > WAITING for one with baited breath?) it highlights the > value of the poetic voice addressing and reflecting the > everyday--- of interrupting and detourning; of intervening > in the narratives, language, thought--processes and values of > our present culture and thereby, not only oppose & question > the logic and practice of war, but the behavior, language, and > philosophical foundation that war is built upon--- to construct > dialectical "IMAGES" which are concrete (in the vispo and literal > sense), enduring, and impactful collections and galleries of > the ephemera & carrion of culture; as well as the traumatic > and the horroific; as well as the joyful and celebratory--- not > in the delusional quest for permanence or tradition but > the wholly absurd and yet wholly necessary quest to use poetry > to not only settle those unsettled debts of history, but to challenge > the very notion of indebtedness--- to light the fuses which will result > in these explosions of these dialectical images in the minds of the > reader: to write poetry in the service of uncovering and enacting > new consciousness. > > > 3 > > the > love of > linguistic play, an > anarchistic spree celebrating the > freedom of consciousnes, which is > the endless possibility of the verbal > expression of consciousness that is language---fashioning > =A0"chorals out of random input" > > > > John Cunningham wrote: >> >> You have raised a =A0question that I've been pondering for some time >> although >> perhaps in a different context. This past Sunday, I had Steven Smith, >> formerly of the sound poetry group Owen Sound as well as director of Sag= e >> Hill Writing who is now director of Literary Arts at the Banff =A0Centre= , on >> my radio =A0show 'Speaking of Poets' heard every Sunday from 4:30 to 5:0= 0 >> p.m. >> CST on CKUW 95.9 FM (and available for streaming or download from the CK= UW >> website). We talked about the concepts of sampling and found poetry. I'v= e >> had poets as diverse as Karen Solie and Jan Conn to the experimental suc= h >> as >> Erin =A0Moure, Lisa =A0Robertson and Angela Carr on the show who have us= ed >> these techniques. I have also had discussion with poets who are aghast a= t >> this plagiarism. What are the parameters in these days of FLARF poetic >> techniques for the legitimacy of 'borrowings'? When does one have to cit= e? >> I've heard others who, if wanting to use a phrase, line or brief passage >> from another writer's work =A0actually indicate that they would send a >> request >> to that writer for permission to use that material. Is this necessary? >> John Herbert Cunningham >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Maria Damon >> Sent: April-17-10 5:37 PM >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >> Subject: Re: Art is theft >> >> here's a shot. but off the cuff. >> art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of >> activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much >> ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and >> others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses >> good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? >> being a social animal and learning everything from others. =A0but becaus= e >> of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive >> genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as >> stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. >> stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. >> >> Ann Bogle wrote: >> >>> >>> Explain art is theft. >>> >>> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. =A0In memory of a poet in >>> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word = I >>> >> >> could >> >>> >>> think of for poor. >>> >>> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimous= ly >>> >> >> >>> >>> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's >>> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's rema= rk >>> >> >> is all? >> >>> >>> Picasso. =A0I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more =A0interesting, >>> >> >> something >> >>> >>> about a mountain. >>> >>> I was glad after renting Tom& =A0Viv years after its release that I had >>> >> >> read >> >>> >>> Eliot early. =A0Four Quartets. =A0Woolf, for that matter. =A0 Rodin. = =A0Great >>> artists incarcerate? >>> >>> Substitutivity. =A0Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? =A0Art is =A0what= ? >>> >>> Chicago Style. =A0300 words. >>> >>> Ann Bogle >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> The Poetics List is moderated& =A0does not accept all posts. Check >>> >> >> guidelines& =A0sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.ht= ml >> >>> >>> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated& =A0does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines >> & =A0sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated& =A0does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines& =A0sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.ht= ml >> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:19:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Chris Chapman Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <52F35F73-B8E2-4831-9E9C-4C18F83E923F@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hmm. yes, i did walk in a circle, i'm afraid. i see that that is a true fact. i wonder if that makes my conclusion irrational or non-rational. do some of my premises have to be true for the one and not the other? ... on board the blue line for o'hare. On 4/19/10, George Bowering wrote: > On Apr 17, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Chris Chapman wrote: > >> theft + disguise = metaphor? >> >> 1. theft: a repetition that doesn't use negation for instantiation. >> eg.: a, a not a, A. >> 2. disguise: a different species within one genus. >> 3. metaphor: gifts of insubordinate resemblance >> >> if art is the use of metaphor, creative comparison, then it is theft. > > Ah, but this is an example of begging the question. > > gb >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/17/10, George Bowering wrote: >>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: >>> >>>> Explain art is theft. >>>> >>> >>> Yeah. I agree that explain art is the worst kind of art. >>> >>> But I don't think that it is theft. >>> >>> >>> gb >>> >>> ================================== >>> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >>> guidelines >>> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >>> >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/ >> welcome.html > > Georges Bowering, OC > If you say so. > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:06:24 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Thomas savage Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Replying to the title of this entry "Art is theft", I go to movies, plays, = operas, and concerts and incorporate elements from all of these in the poem= s I write while watching whatever the event may happen to be.=A0 Is this th= eft?=A0 I always acknowledge the source in a note at the end of the poem.= =A0 It doesn't seem to be theft to me as long as I'm not taking words, phra= ses, or ideas from poems by other poets. --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Jason Quackenbush wrote: From: Jason Quackenbush Subject: Re: Art is theft To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 9:54 AM The word "is" functions both as copula and expression of identity. If I say= "X is Y" I can mean either that Y is some way of describing X or that X an= d Y are identical. If they are identical then they can be substituted for o= ne another in a sentence without any change in meaning. Observe: 1.) "Theft= is the taking of something from someone who has more right to possess it t= han the thief." 2.) "Art is the taking of something from someone who has mo= re right to possess it than the artist." If there is no change in meaning h= ere, then "Art is Theft" is a mere expression of identity. This is not the = case. Therefore "is" in this sentence is functioning as a copula. In that c= ase theft is a predicate of art. It is possible that the sentences "Art is = theft" and "Art is yellow" are both true in a way that would not be possibl= e if the "is" in both sentences were functioning as a marker of identity. T= o explain "Art is theft" you must therefore just know what "theft" means as a predicate. As such it is worth pointing out that theft as a pre= dicate indicates that art is a crime, art takes possession of some (intelle= ctual) property that does not belong to the artist. To create art then is t= o appropriate and to do wrong; to be guilty and deserving of punishment. "A= rt is theft" is therefore a condemnation of God as first creator for creati= ng us and a warning to artists that there is nothing redemptive in what the= y do. In creation, the artist takes from infinite possibility and fixes in = imitation the previously unrealized. Such an act is clearly larcenous and i= ts perpetrators mere criminals trafficking in contraband. On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: > Explain art is theft. >=20 > I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer.=A0 In memory of a poet in > Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I = could > think of for poor. >=20 > The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously > cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's > syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark= =A0 is all? > Picasso.=A0 I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more=A0 interesting, s= omething > about a mountain. >=20 > I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had=A0 = read > Eliot early.=A0 Four Quartets.=A0 Woolf, for that matter.=A0=A0=A0Rodin.= =A0 Great > artists incarcerate? >=20 > Substitutivity.=A0 Art is poetry, piety, carnivality?=A0 Art is=A0 what? >=20 > Chicago Style.=A0 300 words. >=20 > Ann Bogle >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:59:11 -0400 Reply-To: halvard@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <7a02e.61e38df4.38fddeda@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's all coded: a = th; r = e; t = ft. Ergo . . . Hal Halvard Johnson ================ The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye (downloadable and free) is @ http://www.scribd.com/doc/27039868/Halvard-Johnson-THE-PERFECTION-OF-MOZART-S-THIRD-EYE-Other-Sonnets halvard@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: > Six answers so far. I'll keep it open while replies are oncoming. My > objective is to realize something I haven't realized (come to believe) in > reading poetry and observing other arts as well. > > > In a message dated 4/17/2010 2:57:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > AMBogle2@AOL.COM writes: > > I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in > Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I > could > think of for poor. > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:24:58 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ron Henry Subject: Poetry Reading (Ithaca, NY, 4/25, 3 pm) - Emily Rosko and Anthony Reed at the Herbert F. Johnson Museum of Art, Cornell University MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please join us as poets Emily Rosko and Anthony Reed read from their work this Sunday, April 25th, 2010 at 3:00 p.m. at the Herbert F. Johnson Museum of Art on the Cornell University campus. The reading is free and open to the public. EMILY ROSKO is the author of Raw Goods Inventory, winner of the 2005 Iowa Poetry Prize and the 2007 Glasgow Prize for Emerging Writers from Shenandoah. Recipient of the Stegner, the Ruth Lilly, and the Javits fellowships, her poems have been included in Agni, The Beloit Poetry Journal, The Denver Quarterly, The Laurel Review, and Pleiades. She earned an M.F.A. at Cornell University and a Ph.D. in Creative Writing and Literature at the University of Missouri. She is the editor, with Anton Vander Zee, of a collection of essays, A Broken Thing: Poets on the Line, which will be published by The University of Iowa Press in 2010. She has been residing in Ithaca for this past year, serving as a Visiting Assistant Professor at Cornell, and, in the fall, she will be an Assistant Professor at the College of Charleston. ANTHONY REED, a recent Ph.D. graduate from Cornell University's English Department, is a Mellon graduate fellow at the Society for the Humanities. Next year he will join the faculty of the English and African American Studies departments at Yale University. He is also a graduate of the M.F.A. program at the University of Michigan (Ann Arbor). Currently, he is working on a series of poems called 'The Conquering Ayin' as well as a fragmentary novel called The Infinite, both of which are concerned with intimacy and music. This event has been made possible in part with public funds from the Community Arts Partnership of Tompkins County / NYS Council on the Arts Decentralization Program. SOON Productions is dedicated to bringing innovative poets and writers to the Ithaca area for readings and talks. Please visit our website at http://soonproductions.org for information about the series. Please forward this email to anyone you think might be interested in attending the reading. For more information, contact: Ron Henry SOON Productions Email: ron.henry@gmail.com Web: http://soonproductions.org ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:42:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jacquilyn Weeks Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <4BCC835A.7020008@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 theft + disguise = metaphor? off the cuff. By definition originality is impossible. Such an act is clearly larcenous and its perpetrators mere criminals trafficking in contraband. I already own all of it You have raised a question that I've been pondering for some time although perhaps in a different context. What else is pushing her to produce? I'll keep it open The first lines of a boring poem [are] an invitation to attention? Change without exchange. an example of begging the question. My thoughts exactly. I've heard that before. linguistic play, an anarchistic spree tee hee. -J. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Matthew Landis < boatload.of.madmen@gmail.com> wrote: > 1 > > the translation and appropriation of not > only that which we approve of or > value but that which is most reprehensible; > > to separate the intentionality of > the author from the production of meaning > and EMBRACE exemplarity > > not just as an argumentative or > rhetorical strategy, but as a > poetics in and of itself: > > to let the detritus of our cultural > and politcal lives speak > on their own terms---to think of > > the poet less as the painter and > more as the craftsman who > constructs the frame > > > 2 > > this past decade and the future of poetry > has eroded the pretense of the confessional > and the vulgarity of the topical & the opportunism > of influence---in the sense that the topical simply > adopts the tropes and rhetorical logic of media's > narrative structure--- (ie, the war is happening, we > oppose the war, but how long can you write about war? > what happens when the war is over? do we just find > another war? and if there is none do we sit around > WAITING for one with baited breath?) it highlights the > value of the poetic voice addressing and reflecting the > everyday--- of interrupting and detourning; of intervening > in the narratives, language, thought--processes and values of > our present culture and thereby, not only oppose & question > the logic and practice of war, but the behavior, language, and > philosophical foundation that war is built upon--- to construct > dialectical "IMAGES" which are concrete (in the vispo and literal > sense), enduring, and impactful collections and galleries of > the ephemera & carrion of culture; as well as the traumatic > and the horroific; as well as the joyful and celebratory--- not > in the delusional quest for permanence or tradition but > the wholly absurd and yet wholly necessary quest to use poetry > to not only settle those unsettled debts of history, but to challenge > the very notion of indebtedness--- to light the fuses which will result > in these explosions of these dialectical images in the minds of the > reader: to write poetry in the service of uncovering and enacting > new consciousness. > > > 3 > > the > love of > linguistic play, an > anarchistic spree celebrating the > freedom of consciousnes, which is > the endless possibility of the verbal > expression of consciousness that is language---fashioning > "chorals out of random input" > > > > > John Cunningham wrote: > >> You have raised a question that I've been pondering for some time >> although >> perhaps in a different context. This past Sunday, I had Steven Smith, >> formerly of the sound poetry group Owen Sound as well as director of Sage >> Hill Writing who is now director of Literary Arts at the Banff Centre, on >> my radio show 'Speaking of Poets' heard every Sunday from 4:30 to 5:00 >> p.m. >> CST on CKUW 95.9 FM (and available for streaming or download from the CKUW >> website). We talked about the concepts of sampling and found poetry. I've >> had poets as diverse as Karen Solie and Jan Conn to the experimental such >> as >> Erin Moure, Lisa Robertson and Angela Carr on the show who have used >> these techniques. I have also had discussion with poets who are aghast at >> this plagiarism. What are the parameters in these days of FLARF poetic >> techniques for the legitimacy of 'borrowings'? When does one have to cite? >> I've heard others who, if wanting to use a phrase, line or brief passage >> from another writer's work actually indicate that they would send a >> request >> to that writer for permission to use that material. Is this necessary? >> John Herbert Cunningham >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Maria Damon >> Sent: April-17-10 5:37 PM >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >> Subject: Re: Art is theft >> >> here's a shot. but off the cuff. >> art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of >> activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much >> ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and >> others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses >> good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? >> being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because >> of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive >> genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as >> stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. >> stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. >> >> Ann Bogle wrote: >> >> >>> Explain art is theft. >>> >>> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in >>> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I >>> >>> >> could >> >> >>> think of for poor. >>> >>> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's >>> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark >>> >>> >> is all? >> >> >>> Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, >>> >>> >> something >> >> >>> about a mountain. >>> >>> I was glad after renting Tom& Viv years after its release that I had >>> >>> >> read >> >> >>> Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great >>> artists incarcerate? >>> >>> Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? >>> >>> Chicago Style. 300 words. >>> >>> Ann Bogle >>> >>> ================================== >>> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >>> >>> >> guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:37:27 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Camille Martin Subject: sonnet songs on youtube Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 I=92m composing song settings for some of the poems in my recently-released= Sonnets (Shearsman Books), and I'd like to share some of the results - fiv= e of them are uploaded to YouTube. Have a listen: =93katrina, tundra=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-Pf7qpeBUjg =93snow=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTdaQAUp1lJk&feature=3Dchannel =93twigs=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlLoX4SNhHIE =93so many melodies=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DK8pal6OW85Q&feature=3Drelated =93what am i=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZPZDLHixbZA These videos are also embedded on Rogue Embryo, my blog (glitch fixed): http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/sonnet-song-setting-katrina-tun= dra/ If any of these links don=92t work, please let me know. Camille Martin http://www.shearsman.com/pages/books/catalog/2010/martin.html http://www.camillemartin.ca http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:48:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: CA Conrad Subject: BALTIMORE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 reading with the AMAZING Dorothea Lasky and Justin Sirois this Saturday! details here: http://CAConradevents.blogspot.com I LOVE BALTIMORE! -- PhillySound: new poetry http://PhillySound.blogspot.com THE BOOK OF FRANK by CAConrad http://CAConrad.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:03:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Kirschenbaum Subject: Boog City presents Lana Turner and Drew Gardner MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable please forward ------------------ Boog City presents d.a. levy lives: celebrating the renegade press Lana Turner: A Journal of Poetry & Opinion (Santa Monica, Calif.) Tues., April 27, 6:00 p.m. sharp, free ACA Galleries 529 W. 20th St., 5th Flr. NYC Event will be hosted by Lana Turner=92s co-editor Calvin Bedient Featuring readings from Timothy Donnelly Drew Gardner Karen Garthe Cathy Park Hong Douglas Piccinnini and music from Drew Gardner There will be wine, cheese, and crackers, too. Curated and with an introduction by Boog City editor David Kirschenbaum ------ **Lana Turner: A Journal of Poetry & Opinion http://www.lanaturnerjournal.com/ Lana Turner: A Journal of Poetry & Opinion is an annual publication =20 that was begun in 2008. The third issue is now in preparation for an =20 October release. Lana Turner mixes new poetry with political essays =20 and essays on music, movies, art, and poetry. So far, each issue has =20 had eight color-plate pages (in the current issue, a sampling of Peter =20= Sacks=92s astonishing paintings). Canada=92s Disticor distributes the =20= magazine to Barnes & Noble, and independent newsstands and bookstores. =20= The editors are Calvin Bedient and David Lau. For a taste of the =20 contents and information on submissions and subscriptions visit the =20 above url. *Performer Bios* **Timothy Donnelly http://www.wavepoetry.com/authors/66 Timothy Donnelly is the author of The Cloud Corporation (Wave Books) =20 and Twenty-seven Props for a Production of Eine Lebenszeit (Grove =20 Press). His work has been translated into German and Italian and has =20 appeared in numerous anthologies, including Legitimate Dangers: =20 American Poets of the New Century; Isn=92t It Romantic: 100 Love Poems; =20= Joyful Noise: An Anthology of American Spiritual Poetry; and Poet, =20 Poems, Poetry edited by Helen Vendler. A graduate of Johns Hopkins, =20 Columbia, and Princeton universities, he is a poetry editor for Boston =20= Review and teaches in the writing program at Columbia University=92s =20 School of the Arts. He lives in Brooklyn with his wife and two =20 daughters. **Drew Gardner http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Gardner.php Drew Gardner's books include Sugar Pill (Krupskaya) and Petroleum Hat =20= (Roof). A new book, Chomp Away, is forthcoming from Combo Books this =20 year. He lives in New York City. **Karen Garthe Karen Garthe's poetry currently appears in The Best of Fence, Barrow =20 Street, and Lana Turner, and is forthcoming in Aufgabe, Colorado =20 Review, Zoland, and Mad Hatter Review. It has been published in =20 Chicago Review, New American Writing, Denver Quarterly, Court Green, =20 POOL, and American Letters & Commentary, among others. She is the =20 author of the book of poems Frayed Escort, which won the 2005 Colorado =20= Prize, judged by Cal Bedient, and the forthcoming The Banjo Clock =20 (University of California Press). **Cathy Park Hong http://www.cathyparkhong.com Hanging Loose Press published Cathy Park Hong's first book, =20 Translating Mo'um. Her second collection, Dance Dance Revolution, was =20= chosen for the Barnard Women Poets Prize and was published by WW =20 Norton. She lives in New York City. ** Douglas Piccinnini Douglas Piccinnini=92s writing has appeared in EOAGH, Jacket, mid)rib, =20= The Poetry Project Newsletter, Verse, West Wind Review, and other =20 journals. He lives in Brooklyn and curates the CROWD Reading Series. ---- Directions: C/E to 23rd St., 1/9 to 18th St. Venue is bet. 10th and 11th avenues Next event: Tues. May 25 Wave Books http://www.wavepoetry.com (Seattle) -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W. 28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://welcometoboogcity.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) To subscribe free to The December Podcast: = http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=3D3431698= 80 For music from Gilmore boys: http://www.myspace.com/gilmoreboysmusic= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:21:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Vernon Frazer Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain Jim Cohn does excellent recitation with rock bands, but I don't know if h= e plays an=20 insrument. Vernon =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:00:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Allan Revich Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? On 4/19/2010 1:36 PM, gabriel siegel wrote: > Change without exchange. > > On 4/17/10, Maria Damon wrote: > >> here's a shot. but off the cuff. >> art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of >> activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much >> ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and >> others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses >> good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? >> being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because >> of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive >> genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as >> stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. >> stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. >> >> Ann Bogle wrote: >> >>> Explain art is theft. >>> >>> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in >>> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I >>> could >>> think of for poor. >>> >>> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously >>> >>> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's >>> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark >>> is all? >>> Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, >>> something >>> about a mountain. >>> >>> I was glad after renting Tom& Viv years after its release that I had >>> read >>> Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great >>> artists incarcerate? >>> >>> Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? >>> >>> Chicago Style. 300 words. >>> >>> Ann Bogle >>> >>> ================================== >>> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >>> guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >>> >>> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check guidelines >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:00:46 -1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: Tinfish Editor's Blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit new posts on Honolulu poetry, Michael Snediker's optimism tour, Cardinals' baseball, AWP & dementia: * Art and Poetry at The Contemporary Museum, Honolul... * Interminable Baseball & Dementia & Queer Optimism ... * 17 Innings with Michael Snediker, Jack Spicer, Que... * Dementia & AWP (no link, save the ampersand) * The Mother of All Literary Weeks in Honolulu! aloha, Susan M. Schultz/purveyor of blog http://tinfisheditor.blogspot.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:21:02 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jason Quackenbush Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <7FA98C537FC7E943BA5CC7521E3548D40122276E3749@NUCEMB02.aus.aunty.abc.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) it's so old its in the bible. On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Caleb Cluff wrote: > I've heard that before. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] > On Behalf Of mIEKAL aND > Sent: Monday, 19 April 2010 11:56 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Art is theft > > By definition originality is impossible. > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > The information contained in this email and any attachment is > confidential and > may contain legally privileged or copyright material. It is > intended only for > the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient > of this > email, you are not permitted to disseminate, distribute or copy this > email or > any attachments. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:56:39 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Poetry Project Spring Fundraiser Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable April 20, 2010 =20 Dear Friend of The Poetry Project, =20 The Project faces significant financial challenges in 2010. The economic environment remains difficult for arts organizations and, as you might know= , our new lease with the Church imposes a substantial rent increase. =20 There are many ways for you to help us continue to create opportunities for writers to present their work to an engaged, responsive community. One way is to simply purchase admission for one, or all, of the three special event= s scheduled for our annual Spring Fundraising week. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:16:25 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Insert Press Subject: Subscribe to Insert Press! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All - I'm excited for the coming year of Insert Press and wanted to send you this note about what's coming up and about how to subscribe to the press. I've been working with a brilliant printmaker, Maggie White, to make Insert Press titles even more gorgeous. 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Order the Limited Edition set!for $75.00 http://insertpress.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:33:18 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: My Poetry Genitals Hurt Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From the flash, of course: http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/im-just-being-a-bitch-again/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:45:35 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Paul Siegell Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93wash_Uffizi_drive_me_to_Firenze=94?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" hello, new from =93ReVeLeR @ eYeLeVeL=94: REVIEW of JAMBANDBOOTLEG ... http://bit.ly/aQg0m4=20 @ JamBandsOnline.com: =93Parking Lot Poetry: A Review of =91jambandbootle= g=92 by Paul Siegell=94 INTERVIEW ... http://bit.ly/91fU3r @ stevenallenmay's =93Poetry Lab=94: 04/20/99 UPCOMING APPEARANCES:=20 Friday, May 7th in Virginia:=20 @ The Soundry in Vienna, VA with Tony Mancus and Daniel Collins=20 Thursday, May 13th in Philly:=20 @ Head House Book with Debrah Morkun and Carlos Soto Rom=E1n Further dates and details here: http://bit.ly/1A0fPV I hope this note has found you and yours well. Thank you all, Paul=20 http://paulsiegell.blogspot.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:39:43 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Camille Martin Subject: Re: sonnet songs on youtube In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Just to clarify about the "performances" of the songs in the youtube links = below, the audiofiles were generated by the music notation software that I = used to compose the songs. I no longer have the chops to perform the piano = accompaniment. And, as you can hear, there's not much subtlety in the sound= - the software cannot do rubato or dynamics, but it does give a general id= ea of the songs. Camille Martin http://www.shearsman.com/pages/books/catalog/2010/martin.html http://www.camillemartin.ca http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com ________________________________________ From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of = Camille Martin [c8martin@ENGLISH.RYERSON.CA] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:37 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: sonnet songs on youtube I=92m composing song settings for some of the poems in my recently-released= Sonnets (Shearsman Books), and I'd like to share some of the results - fiv= e of them are uploaded to YouTube. Have a listen: =93katrina, tundra=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-Pf7qpeBUjg =93snow=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTdaQAUp1lJk&feature=3Dchannel =93twigs=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlLoX4SNhHIE =93so many melodies=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DK8pal6OW85Q&feature=3Drelated =93what am i=94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZPZDLHixbZA These videos are also embedded on Rogue Embryo, my blog (glitch fixed): http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/sonnet-song-setting-katrina-tun= dra/ If any of these links don=92t work, please let me know. Camille Martin http://www.shearsman.com/pages/books/catalog/2010/martin.html http://www.camillemartin.ca http://rogueembryo.wordpress.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:29:22 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Bill Dunlap Subject: Artaud Art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know of a good book of Antonin Artaud's visual art (drawings, prints, etc)? There seems to be nothing in print at the moment, and even a google search gives very little. I know I've seen lots of intense pieces he did, but I'm not finding anything. An out-of-print title I came across is "Antonin Artaud: Drawings and Prints" by Jacques Derrida. Honestly, I'm not too interested in reading what Derrida has to say, I just want to know if the book has good images (and lots of them). Or any other good source for Artaud's imagery. Thanks, Bill Dunlap http://www.billdunlap.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:43:24 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Caleb Cluff Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <4BCEF6E8.3050809@digitalsalon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 How many cabs in New York City? How many angels on a pin? How many notes in a saxophone? How many tears in a bottle of gin? How many times did you call my name knock at the door but you couldn't get in? Paul Kelly wrote that. -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Beh= alf Of Allan Revich Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 11:00 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Art is theft How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? On 4/19/2010 1:36 PM, gabriel siegel wrote: > Change without exchange. > > On 4/17/10, Maria Damon wrote: > =20 >> here's a shot. but off the cuff. >> art is "free" in the sense that one is participating in a field of >> activity that is theoretically unbounded, but because there is so much >> ego involved, availing oneself of that freedom feels to oneself and >> others like theft, because things are not supposed to be free. One uses >> good ideas, images, words, etc from others because how could one not? >> being a social animal and learning everything from others. but because >> of the Romantic/Enlightenment emphasis on individuality and inventive >> genius, that sociability is perceived and sometimes experienced as >> stepping on other people's toes, using one's time illegitimately (i.e. >> stealing from the boss to find time to write, etc), etc. etc. >> >> Ann Bogle wrote: >> =20 >>> Explain art is theft. >>> >>> I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in >>> Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word = I >>> could >>> think of for poor. >>> >>> The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimous= ly >>> >>> cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's >>> syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's rema= rk >>> is all? >>> Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, >>> something >>> about a mountain. >>> >>> I was glad after renting Tom& Viv years after its release that I had >>> read >>> Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great >>> artists incarcerate? >>> >>> Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? >>> >>> Chicago Style. 300 words. >>> >>> Ann Bogle >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check >>> guidelines& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.htm= l >>> >>> =20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check guideli= nes >> & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> >> =20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated& does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es& sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines= & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html = Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.=0D=0A=0D=0A= The information contained in this email and any attachment is confident= ial and=0D=0Amay contain legally privileged or copyright material. It= is intended only for=0D=0Athe use of the addressee(s). 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:46:30 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Pam Brown Subject: thanks reviewers from Jacket MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks again poeticists, we have reviewers for Jeffrey Side & Jake Berry's book and for Murray Edmonds. Cyclones in High Northern Latitudes (Lavender Ink, 46 pp) A collaborative poem by Jake Berry and Jeffrey Side, with drawings and cover art by Rich Curtis. ________________________________________________________________________________ Walls to Kick and Hills to Sing From : A Comedy With Interruptions by Murray Edmond (Auckland university Press, 80pp All good thoughts to you, Pam -- ____________________________________ blog : http://thedeletions.blogspot.com website : http://pambrownbooks.blogspot.com/ associate editor : http://jacketmagazine.com/ & continuing with Jacket2 in 2011 _____________________________________ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:11:05 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Caleb Cluff Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 And what a plagiarised, unsubstantive, mish-mash THAT is! I thank God for my humility.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Beh= alf Of Jason Quackenbush Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 2:21 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Art is theft it's so old its in the bible. On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Caleb Cluff wrote: > I've heard that before. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] =20 > On Behalf Of mIEKAL aND > Sent: Monday, 19 April 2010 11:56 PM > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Art is theft > > By definition originality is impossible. > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check =20 > guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > The information contained in this email and any attachment is =20 > confidential and > may contain legally privileged or copyright material. It is =20 > intended only for > the use of the addressee(s). 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Th= e ABC's liability is=0D=0Alimited to resupplying any email and attachme= nts.= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:22:27 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Debby Florence Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Because I dont want to offend, I have been holding back the urge to say , "did you guys rip this topic off from a Creative Writing 101 class?" its theft-within-a-theft or theft-of-theft-discussion I kind of think that's funny so taking the plunge and just coming out with it... Debby On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Jason Quackenbush wrote: > it's so old its in the bible. > > > On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Caleb Cluff wrote: > > I've heard that before. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Poetics List (UPenn, UB) [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On >> Behalf Of mIEKAL aND >> Sent: Monday, 19 April 2010 11:56 PM >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >> Subject: Re: Art is theft >> >> By definition originality is impossible. >> >> ================================== >> The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check >> guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. >> >> The information contained in this email and any attachment is confidential >> and >> may contain legally privileged or copyright material. It is intended >> only for >> the use of the addressee(s). 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:02:16 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Aaron Winslow Subject: Rethinking Poetics Conference MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *Rethinking Poetics Conference *Columbia University, NYC June 11-13, 2010 Announcing the Columbia-Penn Poetics Initiative. We are convening a three-day conference at Columbia (June 11-13, 2010), "Rethinking Poetics." It is our sense that the practices of poetics are in danger of becoming pro forma and that a focused, skeptical examination of basic assumptions will be most useful. Terms continue to be used routinely in circumstances that increasingly call for nuanced or even fundamental change. What does "materiality of the signifier" mean in the era of data mining or platform instability? What does "news" mean? How useful are current periodizations? Such questions can be multiplied. Given that new questions need to be raised and old certainties troubled, our goal is to have a conference dedicated to articulating what most needs to be rethought, what familiar formulations seem increasingly inadequate, what new directions seem best to pursue. In order to allow for time for substantial conversation, we are scheduling no multiple panels and no plenaries; rather, there will be a series of plenary-panels, two in the morning and two in the afternoon, with four or five speakers each taking 10-12 minutes for themselves, leaving half the session for more general discussion. There will be a panel chair to moderate discussion, but there will be no introductions. Participants will include Rachel Zolf, Rodrigo Toscano, Jennifer Scappettone, Brent Hayes Edwards, Lytle Shaw, Juliana Spahr, Kenny Goldsmith, Erica Hunt, Alan Golding, Monica de la Torre, Andrew Schelling, Bruce Andrews, Michael Taussig, Joan Retallack, Rachel DuPlessis, K. Silem Muhammad, Jena Osman, Craig Dworkin, Elizabeth Willis, Barrett Watten, Rob Fitterman, Jonathan Skinner, Marjorie Perloff, Sherwin Bitsui, Mark Nowak, Judith Goldman, C. S. Giscombe, Steve Evans, Stephanie Young, Lisa Robertson, Paul Stephens, Rob Halpern, Jeff Dirksen, Ben Friedlander, Joshua Clover, Michael Taussig, Astrid Lorange, James Livingston, Jeff Nealon, Richard Doyle, Tan Lin, Tonya Foster, Matthew Hofer, John Melillo, Susan Howe, and Charles Bernstein. Conference costs for the 3-day conference are $50/university faculty, $20/student & unaffiliated; $10 1-day entrance. For more information and updated information, including conference registration, please visit our blog at http://rethinkingpoetics.wordpress.com/. Please send any questions or comments to Aaron Winslow at rethinkingpoetics AT gmail.com. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:31:59 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: Re: Art is theft MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Art is borrowing, as well as the inability to locate the lenders and an unwillingness to share credit. Mary Jo Malo -- http://thisshiningwound.blogspot.com/ http://apophisdeconstructingabsurdity.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:59:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Al Filreis Subject: PoemTalk #31: on Grenier's Sentences Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Today we are releasing episode 31 of the PoemTalk series. In this episode, I convene Joseph Yearous-Algozin, Jena Osman, and Bob Perelman to talk about Robert Grenier's Sentences. http://www.poemtalk.org http://www.poetryfoundation.org/journal/audioitem.html?id=2150 - Al Filreis Al Filreis Kelly Professor Faculty Dir., Kelly Writers House Dir., Center for Programs in Contemporary Writing University of Pennsylvania on the web: http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis blog: http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/blog ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:56:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: We Are Champion Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When Issue #1 offered the work of three = WAC Poetry Magazine Issue #2 =0A=0AWhen Issue #1 offered the work of three = women (Blake Butler, Mathias Svalina, Rachel B. Glaser, Ally Harris, Adam R= obinson, Jonathan Papas, Carl Annarummo, A. Minetta Gould, Christopher Higg= s, Giancarlo Ditrapano), Issue #2 of =E2=80=9CWe Are Champion=E2=80=9D got = pissed and chose to obliterate any and all female poetics completely.=0A=0A= Issue #2 of =E2=80=9CWe Are Champion=E2=80=9D now stars the All =E2=80=93 L= ive, All- Male revue: Jimmy Chen, Chris Oklum, Mike Young, Ben Mirov, Jos= eph Goosey, Tyler Flynn Dorholt, Miguel Morales, Mark Leidner, Reynard Seif= ert, and an interview with Ben Marcus.=0A=0Ap.s. The We Are Champs=E2=80=99= editor has changed the contributors=E2=80=99 names to mislead & protect th= e innocent (of course, into women=E2=80=99s names). Now that is WAC!=0A=0A= =0AMy response (updated) -- http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/im-just= -being-a-bitch-again/=0A=0AContributor responds -- http://mikeayoung.blogsp= ot.com/2010/04/theres-first-for-every-flugelhorn.html=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:33:42 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Vote for Sina Queyras Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you value your ______ http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/bloggingpoetcom/vote-for-the-2010-poet-laureate-of-the-blogosphere.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:07:51 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Hot Friday the Next - Sandy Florian, Lara Glenum, Lesley Jenike, Saeed Jones, Metta Sama & Tom Sleigh! Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sandy Florian, Lara Glenum, Lesley Jenike, Saeed Jones, Metta Sama & Tom Sl= eigh!=0A=0AFriday, April 30 @ 7 p.m. =0A=0AGoodbye Blue Monday =0AEdge-of-W= illiamsburg =3D =0ABushwick, Brooklyn=0Ahttp://stainofpoetry.com=0A=0A=C2= =A0=0ASandy Florian is the author of Telescope (Action Books), 32 Pedals &= =0A47 Stops (Tarpaulin Sky), The Tree of No (Action Books), Prelude to=0AAi= r From Water (Elixir Press), and On Wonderland & Waste (Sidebrow=0APress). = She lives in San Francisco where she is an affiliate artist at=0AHeadlands = Center for the Arts and works as one of the =E2=80=9Cother=E2=80=9D editors= =0Afor Tarpaulin Sky Journal. For more information, visit her blog at=0Ahtt= p://boxingthecompass.blogspot.com=0A=0A~=0A=0ALara Glenum is a poet, schola= r, and translator. She is the author of=0Atwo books of poetry: The Hounds o= f No (Action Books, 2005) and Maximum=0AGaga (Action Books, 2009). Her chap= book, The Hotling Chronicles, is=0Adue out from Tarpaulin Sky later this ye= ar. With Arielle Greenberg,=0Ashe is the co-editor of Gurlesque, an antholo= gy of contemporary=0Awomen=E2=80=99s poetry and visual art (Saturnalia Book= s, 2010). She has=0Arecently been collaborating with sound, visual, and dig= ital media=0Aartists on Meat Out of the Eater [hyperlink:=0Ahttp://vimeo.co= m/7215889], a multimedia installation. She teaches in=0Athe MFA program in = Creative Writing at LSU.=0A=0A~=0A=0ALesley Jenike is the author of Ghost o= f Fashion (CustomWords, 2009).=0AShe is a native of Cincinnati, OH and rece= ived her doctorate from the=0AUniversity of Cincinnati in 2008. Her poems h= ave appeared in POOL,=0ACourt Green, Brooklyn Review, Gulf Coast, Sou=E2=80= =99Wester, Verse, Alaska=0AQuarterly Review, Forklift, Ohio, Washington Squ= are, Crab Orchard=0AReview, and others. She=E2=80=99s currently Assistant P= rofessor of English at=0AColumbus College of Art and Design.=0A=0A~=0A=0ASa= eed Jones is currently completing his MFA in Creative Writing at=0ARutgers = University =E2=80=93 Newark. He=E2=80=99s a graduate of Western Kentucky=0A= University where he won the Jim Wayne Miller Award for Poetry. While=0Aat W= estern, he was the poetry editor for Rise Over Run Magazine. His=0Awork has= appeared or is forthcoming in publications like StorySouth,=0ABarnwood Mag= azine, Splinter Generation, The Adirondack Review, Mary,=0Aand Ganymede. He= blogs regularly at saeedjones.wordpress.com=0A=0A~=0A=0AMetta Sama says: I= am a poet, professor, activist, painter, collage=0Aartist, fiction and ess= ay writer. My poetry, currently, looks at=0Ainstabilities in writings by pe= rsons subjected to various forms of=0Aoppression. I am interested in the jo= y of making and creating art and=0Astories and images that will, eventually= , disintegrate, return to the=0Asource it came from. I question what it mea= ns to make thoughts, ideas,=0A& feelings stable, to devote oneself to immor= tality. My work has=0Aappeared in Proud Flesh Journal, The Drunken Boat, Bl= ackbird, Paterson=0ALiterary Review, Yellow Medicine Review, Crab Orchard, = and other=0Ajournals, & I am the author of one published collection of poem= s.=0A=0A~=0A=0ATom Sleigh=E2=80=99s most recent book of poetry, Space Walk = (Houghton Mifflin,=0A2007), won the 2008 Kingsley Tufts Award. His book of = essays,=0AInterview with a Ghost, was published by Graywolf Press in 2006. = He=0Ahas also published After One, Waking, The Chain, The Dreamhouse, Far= =0ASide of the Earth, Bula Matari/Smasher of Rocks, and a translation of=0A= Euripides=E2=80=99 Herakles. He has won the Shelley Prize from the PSA, and= =0Agrants from the Lila Wallace Fund, American Academy of Arts and=0ALetter= s, the Guggenheim and NEA. His new book, Army Cats, is=0Aforthcoming in spr= ing, 2011, from Graywolf Press. He teaches in the=0AMFA Program at Hunter C= ollege.=0A=0A=0Aat=0A=0AGoodbye Blue Monday=0A1087 Broadway=0A(corner of Do= dworth St)=0ABrooklyn, NY 11221-3013 =0A(718) 453-6343=0A=0AJ M Z trains to= Myrtle Ave=0Aor J train to Kosciusko St=0A=0A~=0A=0AHosted by Amy King and= Ana Bo=C5=BEi=C4=8Devi=C4=87=0A=0Ahttp://amyking.org=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:55:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: Re: Art is theft MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Art is stealing the unconditioned from the conditioned before anyone notices it's missing and copies it. Mary Jo Malo -- http://thisshiningwound.blogspot.com/ http://apophisdeconstructingabsurdity.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:42:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Peter ciccariello Subject: 2010 Poet Laureate of the Blogosphere MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Vote For The 2010 Poet Laureate of the Blogosphere *http://tinyurl.com/y7q4cvu* * * ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:30:02 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Upcoming Events at The Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Next week is our Spring fundraising week here at The Poetry Project which means we have some extra special events planned. If you can=B9t make it out but would like to support us you can become a member here: http://poetryproject.org/get-involved/become-a-member Or make a donation here: http://poetryproject.org/get-involved/donate-now Friday, April 23, 10 PM Still Talking: New Film & Poetry In conjunction with We Saw The Light: Conversations Between New American Cinema & Poetry (4/30), tonight=B9s event features readings, screenings and performance from five young Brooklyn-based poets and filmmakers: Jessica Fiorini, Derek Kroessler, Andrew Lampert, Dani Leventhal & Fern Silva. Jessica Fiorini is the author of the chapbooks Sea Monster at Night (Goodby= e Better) and Light Suite (forthcoming from Pudding House Publications). She has been published in Lungfull!, Brooklyn Rail and the Poetry Project Newsletter.=A0Jessica currently lives in Brooklyn. Derek Kroessler originally hails from Providence, RI and is finishing up hi= s senior year at NYU. His poems have appeared in Pleasure, and he has one homemade chapbook, Word/Turd. Born in the mid-70s in the Midwest, Andrew Lampert has staged performances and exhibited his films at The Whitney Museum of American Art, The Getty Museum, The British Film Institute, The Kitchen, The Rotterdam Internationa= l Film Festival, Kill Your Timid Notion Festival, Light Industry, Mitchell Algus Gallery and many other venues here and abroad. He lives in Brooklyn. Dani Leventhal=B9s videos are distributed through the Video Data Bank. She ha= s screened her work at Oberhausen, Rotterdam, Gene Siskel Film Center, CineCycle and Anthology Film Archives.=A0 In 2007 she got an Astraea Visual Arts Award and a Women=B9s Studio Workshop Book Arts Grant. In 2003 she received an MFA in Sculpture from the University of Illinois at Chicago and in 2009 an MFA in film/video from Bard College. Fern Silva=B9s work has been screened and performed at various festivals, galleries, and cinematheques including International Film Festival Rotterdam, New York Film Festival, Anthology Film Archive, Images Festival, IndieLisboa International Film Festival, Bangkok Experimental Film Festival= , Biennale Bandits-Mages Festival, Roulette Gallery, Millennium Film Workshop and White Box Gallery. He received a BFA from Massachusetts College of Art and is in the process of receiving his MFA from Bard College. Monday, April 26, 8 PM Catherine Meng & Aaron Tieger Catherine Meng is the author of the poetry collection Tonight=B9s the Night (Apostrophe Books) and three chapbooks, 15 Poems in Sets of 5 (Anchorite Press), Dokument (Perichord Press), and Lost Notebook w/ Letters to Deer (Dusie Kollectiv). She currently resides in Berkeley and works at a restaurant. Along with Lauren Levin and Jared Stanley she co-edits the poetry journal Mrs. Maybe. Aaron=A0 Tieger is most recently the author of Secret Donut (Pressed Wafer, 2009). His many chapbooks include Recently Clouds (with Jess Mynes), The Collected Typos of Aaron Tieger, Necco Face (with Jess Mynes and Michael Carr), and Anxiety Chant. He is the publisher of Petrichord Books. He lives in Cambridge, MA. Wednesday, April 28, 8 PM Alice Notley=20 We are thrilled to present this evening with Alice Notley to kick off our Spring Fundraising Week. Notley has published over thirty books of poetry, including (most recently) Reason and Other Women; Grave of Light: New and Selected Poems 1970-2005; Alma, or The Dead Women; and In the Pines.=A0 With her sons, Anselm and Edmund Berrigan, Notley edited The Collected Poems of Ted Berrigan. She is also the author of a book of essays on poets and poetry, Coming After. Notley has received many prizes and awards including the Academy of American Poets=B9 Lenore Marshall Prize, the Poetry Society of America=B9s Shelley Award, the Griffin Prize, two NEA Grants, and the Los Angeles Times Book Award for Poetry. Considered an important figure in the New York School, Notley now lives and writes in Paris, France. This event will take place in the Sanctuary. Reception to follow. Admission is $10. =20 Friday, April 30, 6:30 PM We Saw the Light: Conversations Between New American Cinema and Poetry =AD Talk & Screening=20 In We Saw the Light: Conversations Between the New American Cinema and Poetry (University of Iowa Press, 2009), Daniel Kane draws on correspondenc= e and interviews with key figures in innovative cinema and writing of the 1960s to provide a fresh look at film=B9s influence on poetry. Please join us for a discussion amongst filmmakers and poets, and stay for a special screening of mainly 16mm prints. Talk (6:30-7:30 PM) Ed Bowes, Jacob Burckhardt, Abigail Child, Cole Heinowitz, Jonas Mekas, Jennifer Reeves, and others TBA. Moderated by Danie= l Kane. Film Program (8 PM) A selection of short films by Ed Bowes, Stan Brakhage, Jacob Burckhardt, Rudy Burckhardt, Abigail Child, Christopher Maclaine, Jonas Mekas, Marie Menken, and more t.b.a. Program subject to change. Thanks to the Filmmakers=B9 Cooperative, Jacob Burckhardt & Andrew Lampert at Anthology Film Archives. Admission is $10. Saturday, May 1, 8 PM John Ashbery=B9s Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror for Six Voices First published in 1975, John Ashbery=B9s long poem Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror begins as a meditation on an extraordinary Mannerist painting by Francesco Parmigianino. The poem, and the volume that includes it, remain among the most influential works of our time. In this performance, six readers with projected text and image make the work unusually available, as Ashbery=B9s tonal shifts and juxtapositions are taken up by different voices. With Joan Arnold, Andrea Barnet, Jan Hanvik, James Occhino, Jim Paul and Annie Walwyn-Jones.=A0 Arranged and directed by Jim Paul. This event will take place in the Sanctuary. Admission is $10. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.org/become-a-member Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.org/program-calendar The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.org www.poetryproject.org Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $95 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.org. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:40:36 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Sam Ladkin Subject: Clark Coolidge, Act of Providence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All, Does anyone know how I can get hold of Coolidge's new (old) one, Act of Providence, published by "Combo" or something like it? I cant seem to find an email or realworld address to track it down. Thanks, Sam ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:46:13 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: 4/25: Aaaaaaaaaaalice in NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THE TORN PAGE SALON=C2=A0 =C2=A0 a Spring Poetry Play Song Mini-festival curated & hosted by Lee Ann Brown http://www.tornpage.org/salon.html =C2=A0=C2=A0 Sunday, April 25th=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 7pm-9pm 435 West 22nd St -- NYC between 9th & 10th Avenue =20 Book party and polyvocal poetry performance of the new Flim Forum Press publication: Aaaaaaaaaaalice by Jennifer Karmin a travelogue in 11 cantos scored for polyvocal improvisation 112 pages, 7x9 ISBN 978-0-9790888-3-4 http://www.aaaaaaaaaaalice.blogspot.com "This book, a score, is full of information both literal and (im)possible. Do dip in; see what you come out with."=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=E2=80=94 Bernadet= te Mayer "Jennifer Karmin brings an openness and generosity to these poems of public address and private insistence. Aaaaaaaaaaalice's buoyant charm calls out for new listeners."=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=94 Charles Bernstein "I like tightly proposed structures in which anything can happen & does because the more tightly controlled the structures, the more explosively the language will implode, disseminate, fold in or out or whatever it is it needs to do to loosen up or reverse direction & meaning. And that=E2=80= =99s the fun of Aaaaaaaaaaalice, lithe row of straight a=E2=80=99s followed by bitin= g animal commentary."=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=E2=80=94 Pierre Joris "Alice and anime, Asia and uncertainty, we do so want our sounds to make sense, our textual travels to have a guide, even if that guide is the white rabbit that will hide. Aaaaaaaaaaalice is the sound and sight of the disappearing rabbit, the one with a hat, the one who pops up with regular unpredictability whenever we go somewhere not here, and while words will swivel around us like our very own heads, making the unfamiliar familiar and the familiar unfamiliar, making no sense but nonsense and non-sense sense, like in this very text, what=E2=80=99s moreover curious, as Karmin r= ightly notes, is that 'yesterday a man was walking.' "=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=E2=80=94 = Vanessa Place =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:28:45 +0100 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Justin Katko Subject: CRS 4: Redell Olsen and Frances Kruk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The fourth CRS reading of 2010 will be held on Friday 30th April, at 7:30pm in the Judith Wilson drama studio of the English Faculty. Redell Olsen and Frances Kruk will read from their poetry, as well as the poetry of others. This will be no thebolactic oasis in your preciously frantic first week, no= r a storm in your cup of tea, each sweet drop of milk registered by the eye o= f the Hawk. Rather, prepare for the inhabitation of the eye of the storm whic= h blows the disproportionate Hawkeye to rags. ALSO, on Monday 26th April, don't miss the gala reading celebrating the new anthology, Infinite Difference: Other Poetries by UK Women Poets. It takes place at 7:30pm in the Bowett Room of Queens' College, and will feature readings by Carrie Etter, Rachel Lehrman, Wendy Mulford, Redell Olsen, Frances Presley, Anna Reckin, Lucy Sheerman, Zo=EB Skoulding, & Carol Watts= . ALSO NOTE poetry readings at Queens' on the 7th and 14th of May (see calendar below). *************************** FRANCES KRUK is a writer, musician, and artist. Her books include Clobber (yt communication, 2006), Dig Oubliette (yt communication, 2007), and A Discourse on Vegetation & Motion (Critical Documents, 2008). Her most recen= t contribution to the world of letters is a selection of works in the anthology Infinite Difference (Shearsman, 2010). She edits yt communication with Sean Bonney and is conducting a PhD at Royal Holloway. She lives in London with a piano and several furry life forms. REDELL OLSEN'S publications include; 'Book of the Fur' (Rempress, 2000), 'Secure Portable Space' (Reality Street, 2004) and the collaboratively edited 'Here Are My Instructions' (Gefn Press, 2004). She is the editor of the online journal How2 which publishes modernist and innovative poetry and poetics by women writers. Her recent projects have involved texts for performance and film and include: 'Newe Booke of Copies' (2009) and 'Bucolic Picnic (or Toile de Jouy / Camouflage)' (2009). Her most recent project 'The Lost Swimming Pool (for Esther Williams and the Lost Olympics' is a site-specific collaboratio= n to be shown in June 2010. She is the course director for the MA in Poetic Practiceat Royal Holloway, University of London. *************************** A list of up-coming readings (CRS and beyond) is given below. Please direct any queries to Justin Katko (jk468@cam.ac.uk) or see the CRS website: crs0hq.tumblr.com. The Cambridge Reading Series is funded by the Judith E. Wilson Fund and organised by English graduate students Ryan Dobran, Ian Heames, Justin Katko, Laura Kilbride, and Mike Wallace-Hadrill. *************************** Monday 26 April: *Infinite Difference* anthology reading -- Bowett Rm, Queens' Friday 30 April: CRS 4: Redell Olsen & Frances Kruk Friday 7 May: DIAL Easter term reading, line-up TBA -- Bowett Rm, Queens' Friday 14 May: Peter Gizzi (USA) & Jimmy Cummins (Ireland) -- Bowett Rm, Queens' Friday 21 May: CRS 5: Jow Walton & Posie Rider & John Wilkinson Friday 18 Jun: CRS 6: Sean Bonney & Simon Jarvis =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:09:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nana Zabic Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, There is also the generation of people who were first poets, but then (while still very young and unknown) choose rock as their preferred form--Richard Hell, Tom Verlaine, John Doe, Exene Cervenka, and Patti Smith come to mind first of all. They grew up on the tail end of the idea that being a poet is the coolest thing, while rock became spinal-tappish, but then punk rock came and made rock cooler than poetry again, and of course it was a bit more viable profession economically. Richard Hell talks about that openly in interviews, and those who knew John Doe back in Baltimore testify he went through a similar thought process, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm glad those people chose music over poetry, because it's not like poetry word suffered because of their conversion; meanwhile I can't imagine what music would have sounded if that generation didn't take up instruments and singing. And Jim Carroll kept double lives till the end, right? But that generation, especially the above names, is super well-documented, so that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for the later and contemporary, less-documented generations, when rock became as financially inviable as poetry, or in a way even less so, because at least you can teach comp with your mfa, ma, of ph.d. degree. So I'm adding another dimension to my query: the purely economic one. I wonder how many people who would rather be in bands, write songs and record and tour full time, in the end focus more on poetry and publishing and teaching in order to survive? Snezana On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Vernon Frazer wrote: > Jim Cohn does excellent recitation with rock bands, but I don't know if he plays an > insrument. > > Vernon > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:43:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jake Marmer Subject: Samuel Menashe & Stanley Moss Reading in NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Samuel Menashe and Stanley Moss will be reading at the Six Street Community Synagogue in NYC this Monday, April 26th at 8.15pm. The space is at 325 East 6th Street, b/n 1st & 2nd Ave. More info: http://www.eastvillageshul.com/2010/03/24/spoken-word-fest/. See WNYC's special on Menashe here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EefUhL2kHkM. Pls spread the word! This shoud be great. -JM ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:31:10 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: Art is theft MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit too deep art is always a take that seems like a give and a give that takes - borrowing / theft appropriation from others from nature - an honest thief as was said is the best or a good thief well disguising his/her theft as picasso said the highest honor he could give / pay anorher is to steal from them a make over not a copy - incorporation and hopefully crediting those that influenced your piece in some way On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:55:15 -0500 Mary Jo Malo writes: > Art is stealing the unconditioned from the conditioned before anyone > notices it's missing and copies it. > > Mary Jo Malo > > -- > http://thisshiningwound.blogspot.com/ > http://apophisdeconstructingabsurdity.blogspot.com/ > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:37:28 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: Samuel Menashe & Stanley Moss Reading in NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit haiku reading at this year's Sakura Matsuri (Cherry Blossom Festival), at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden. steve dlachinsky, tony pupello, yuko otomo, cor van den huevel and others For those of you who don't know, the Brooklyn Botanic Garden has MORE species of cherry than anywhere outside of Japan. We don't have more trees than Washington - but way more varieties. And the festival boasts daiko drumming, ikebana, Butoh dance, and many, many other cultural events. If you plan on going, just make sure to get there early as the lines to get in can be daunting! (Folks are just clamoring to hear the haiku/senryu poets!). FREE Brooklyn Botanic Garden Sakura Matsuri Saturday, May 1st 2:00 - 3:00 PM Alfred T. White Memorial _________________________________________________________ May 14 7pm at Bowery Poetry Club steve dalachinsky jane grenier b and albey balgochian's basscentric ___________________________________________ May 22 - 2 pm at Grand Army Plaza Library steve dalachinsky and Matt Maneri ___________________________________________ The Brownstone Poets presents: steve dalachinsky and Bruce Webber Park Plaza Restaurant 220 Cadman Plaza West near Clark St. & Pineapple Walk Brooklyn, NY 11201 - 718 – 596 – 5900 Take the A or C to High Street, 2 or 3 to Clark Street, 4, 5, M or R to Court Street, Borough Hall 2:30 P.M. $3 Donation – plus Food/Drink - Open Mic curated by Patricia Carragon ____________________________________________________ Sunday June 20 - 2-5pm the Vision Festival presents @ AGathering of Tribes 285 East 3rd St. (between C & D - 2nd floor) donation to Tribes poetry by Jeff Wright Bob Heman Aaron Howard w/Gwen Krueger & Tomislav Butkovic Lewis Warsh Poetry & Music Albey Balgochian & Jane Grenier B Barry Wallenstein Yuko Otomo - Shayna Dulberger Jake Marmer / & Alon Nechushtan Steve Dalachinsky Alexandre Pierrepont Tamara Singh Musicians / Improvs Ellen Christi Ambrose Bie piano Max Johnson bass Andrew Barker drums Charles Waters reeds plus others On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:43:28 -0400 Jake Marmer writes: > Samuel Menashe and Stanley Moss will be reading at the Six Street > Community > Synagogue in NYC this Monday, April 26th at 8.15pm. The space is at > 325 East > 6th Street, b/n 1st & 2nd Ave. More info: > http://www.eastvillageshul.com/2010/03/24/spoken-word-fest/. See > WNYC's > special on Menashe here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EefUhL2kHkM. > Pls > spread the word! This shoud be great. > > -JM > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:52:54 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: Artaud Art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes paris at - national libray they had a big artaud show 2 years ago also from moma drawing show - go to abebooks tpye in artaud drawings see what ya come up with On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:29:22 -0700 Bill Dunlap writes: > Does anyone know of a good book of Antonin Artaud's visual art > (drawings, prints, etc)? There seems to be nothing in print at the > moment, and even a google search gives very little. I know I've seen > lots of intense pieces he did, but I'm not finding anything. An > out-of-print title I came across is "Antonin Artaud: Drawings and > Prints" by Jacques Derrida. Honestly, I'm not too interested in > reading what Derrida has to say, I just want to know if the book has > good images (and lots of them). Or any other good source for > Artaud's imagery. > > Thanks, > Bill Dunlap > http://www.billdunlap.com > > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:10:18 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: The Most Important Book Every Man Should Read Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Most Important Book Every Man Should Read -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-leveen/the-most-important-book-e_b_399419.html http://www.girleffect.org/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:47:58 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Ann: Before--and introducing--Olson at the Berkely festival Robert Duncan also speaks of the poet as a stealer of fire--and that as a thief of fire, for him Olson is a great "fire source." It is the ( I am not sure how old the idea is, rather Romantic or earlier) concept of Prometheus as Stealer of Fire with the image of the Act of Creation imagined as Fire being stolen from the Gods. A very interesting proposal is this one: Plagiarism is necessary. Progress implies it. It holds tight an author=92s phrase, uses his expressions, eliminates a false idea, and replaces it with just the right idea. =96 *Comte de Lautr=E9amont* (Isidore Ducasse), *Po=E9sies II* (1870) Lautreamont sees "progress" as the plagiarising of everything but the "right idea" from a previous writer/poet. The "right idea" " corrects" a falsity from the previous piece of writing, which may simply be the introduction of a new fact, thus making "progress" towards a more precise "truth" or "actuality." (Or--of a "sur reality"--a higher reality, as Breton and the Surre;laist found a direct antecdent in Lautreamont in th= e 1920's. Pascal also notes: "It is not the materials which are new, but the order o= f their arrangement." I hope these three versions of the theft idea are helpful! In the words of an old song by The Band: "I am thief--and i dig it!" onwo/ards!!! davidbc http://davidbaptistechirot.blogspot.com http://chirotzerozine.blogspot.com http://nosobrasotros.blogspot.com On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Ann Bogle wrote: > Explain art is theft. > > I offer a prize of $100 to the best answer. In memory of a poet in > Binghamton who sent me $100 via Paypal when I was broke, the only word I > could > think of for poor. > > The subject came up last year at WOMPO, and the women and men unanimously > cited Eliot, as if nothing theoretical has happened since Eliot's > syllogism. Those of you who studied theory for many years, Eliot's remark > is all? > Picasso. I looked up Pound, and Pound's idea is more interesting, > something > about a mountain. > > I was glad after renting Tom & Viv years after its release that I had re= ad > Eliot early. Four Quartets. Woolf, for that matter. Rodin. Great > artists incarcerate? > > Substitutivity. Art is poetry, piety, carnivality? Art is what? > > Chicago Style. 300 words. > > Ann Bogle > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelin= es > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:19:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: The Most Important Book Every Man Should Read In-Reply-To: <779548.76186.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit exactly, amy! I have long felt the next revolution wd be the women's real revolution--of course, we still have to deal with global warming immediately. On 4/25/10 3:10 PM, "amy king" wrote: > book ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:06:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Freind, William Joseph" Subject: Alice Notley in South Jersey In-Reply-To: <20100424.145254.3804.84.skyplums@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Alice Notley will be reading on Monday, April 26 at 7:00 PM in the Westby Art Gallery at Rowan University in Glassboro, NJ. The reading is free and open to the public, and refreshments will be served. For more information, contact Bill Friend, freind@rowan.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:53:07 -0600 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jonathan Penton Subject: one week left to submit to the Unlikely Stories print edition! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Surely you are an essayist, story writer, poet, videomaker, musician, spoken word artist, visual artist or reviewer that has a deep and uncontrollable need to be included in /"Unlikely Stories of the Third Kind/," the one-time-only (any time soon, anyway) sprawling physical manifestation of all things Unlikely! Get yourself over to http://www.unlikelystories.org/printsubmissions.shtml and get in now! -- Jonathan Penton http://www.unlikelystories.org/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:29:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mark Johnson Subject: Re: Artaud Art In-Reply-To: <625163.64306.qm@web112604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's a good one: Antonin Artaud: Works on Paper, ed. Margit Rowell (MOMA: 1998) On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Bill Dunlap wrote: > Does anyone know of a good book of Antonin Artaud's visual art (drawings, > prints, etc)? There seems to be nothing in print at the moment, and even a > google search gives very little. I know I've seen lots of intense pieces he > did, but I'm not finding anything. An out-of-print title I came across is > "Antonin Artaud: Drawings and Prints" by Jacques Derrida. Honestly, I'm not > too interested in reading what Derrida has to say, I just want to know if > the book has good images (and lots of them). Or any other good source for > Artaud's imagery. > > Thanks, > Bill Dunlap > http://www.billdunlap.com > > > > > > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:26:01 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: patrick dunagan Subject: Re: Clark Coolidge, Act of Providence In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 city lights didn't seem to have any on Friday, but small press distribution: http://www.spdbooks.org/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=act+of+providence appears to have 'em in stock and from what "the Toms" have had to say via blog it does indeed sound a delite On 23 April 2010 01:40, Sam Ladkin wrote: > Dear All, > > Does anyone know how I can get hold of Coolidge's new (old) one, Act > of Providence, published by "Combo" or something like it? I cant seem > to find an email or realworld address to track it down. > > Thanks, > > Sam > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines > & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:37:46 -0500 Reply-To: halvard@gmail.com Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: Art is theft In-Reply-To: <20100423.173110.2752.2.skyplums@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I hereby thank, acknowledge, and give credit to all who have influenced me and/or my work--past, present, and future--for good or for ill, in any way whatsoever. You know who you are. Hal Halvard Johnson ================ The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye (downloadable and free) is @ http://www.scribd.com/doc/27039868/Halvard-Johnson-THE-PERFECTION-OF-MOZART-S-THIRD-EYE-Other-Sonnets halvard@gmail.com http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:01 AM, steve dalachinsky wrote: > too deep > art is always a take that seems like a give > and a give that takes - borrowing / theft appropriation > from others from nature - an honest thief as was said is the best > or a good thief well disguising his/her theft > as picasso said the highest honor he could give / pay anorher > is to steal from them > a make over not a copy - incorporation and hopefully crediting those > that influenced your piece in some way > > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:55:15 -0500 Mary Jo Malo > writes: > > Art is stealing the unconditioned from the conditioned before anyone > > notices it's missing and copies it. > > > > Mary Jo Malo > > > > -- > > http://thisshiningwound.blogspot.com/ > > http://apophisdeconstructingabsurdity.blogspot.com/ > > > > ================================== > > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. 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Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:47:18 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David Chirot Subject: Catalogue of The First Asemic Exhibitionin Russia is available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please note: below the announcement is an updated link of the catalogue So much thanks to dear friend Gleb Kommiets who organized and worked so hard dealing with bureaucracy and other constraints in order to mount this show. Dear exhibition members, Catalogue of The First Asmeic Exhibition is available at 'Scribd': http://www.scribd.com/doc/30480741 It includes all artworks shown in Smolensk, photos and biographies of the contributors. Feel yourself free to download and share the catalogue! Please let me know if you'll have any ideas or wishes. With hope on further collaboration, Gleb Kolomiets. Sorry! I had to make some urgent updates in a PDF catalogue. Here is a new link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/30488056 ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:33:11 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: new chapbbooks by steve dalachinsky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. the mantis and other poems written for cecil taylor - 1966 -2010 with collage by dalachinsky 50 pages published by ininquity press in a first limited edition of 110 81/2 by 11 inches - $12 including shipping available through steve - 2. invasion of the animal people - 20 pages short cut up poems and collage by dalachinsky 4 by 51/4 inches - $6 plus $2 shipping available from propaganda press - at alt-current.com or $6 directly from steve backchannel if interested ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:16:49 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Stephen Baraban Subject: Re: Vote for Sina Queyras In-Reply-To: <374813.98131.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't plan to vote at all. Does this mean you will merely mess up my ____= __ & not my ______? =20 --- On Thu, 4/22/10, amy king wrote: > From: amy king > Subject: Vote for Sina Queyras > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:33 PM > If you value your ______=A0 http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/bloggingp= oetcom/vote-for-the-2010-poet-laureate-of-the-blogosphere.html >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all > posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/= welcome.html > =A0 =A0 =A0=20 > =0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:32:49 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Interview at The Argotist Online with Brian Clements on prose poetry Comments: To: British Poetics , Poetryetc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's now an interview at The Argotist Online with Brian Clements on prose poetry: http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Clements%20interview.htm ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:55:19 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Steve Halle Subject: Davis Schneiderman @ Seven Corners MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Check out new work from *Davis Schneiderman*'s "Un-Death of the Author" series at *Seven Corners* . Other recent featured poets: Jessica Ponto, William Allegrezza, Jacob Saenz, & Julia Drauden Thanks, Steve Halle Editor ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:54:14 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: rob on the chelsea hotel rob on the chelsea hotel, new york; http://www.openbooktoronto.com/news/canadians_new_york_chelsea_hotel rob -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:03:04 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mark Weiss Subject: event Comments: To: new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry with Maria Isabel Alfonso, Lourdes Gil, James Irby, Mark Weiss & Christopher Winks On the occasion of the publication of The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry, editor Mark Weiss, contributors and translators explore major trends in Cuban poetry, both on and off the island. Tuesday, April 27, 7:00pm Poets House, 10 River Terrace, NYC $10, $7 for students and seniors, free to Poets House Members Info: 212-431-7920 or www.poetshouse.org Announcing The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry (University of California Press). http://go.ucpress.edu/WholeIsland "Not since the 1982 publication of Paul Auster's Random House Book of Twentieth Century French Poetry has a bilingual anthology so effectively broadened the sense of poetic terrain outside the United States and also created a superb collection of foreign poems in English. There is nothing else like it." John Palattella in The Nation ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:05:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mark Weiss Subject: Hello, I must be going Comments: To: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed But I'll be back June 9, and receiving b/c as usual. For those in the UK, that's where I'll be. Curious about gigs? I'll be at Birkbeck May 19, Leicester June 1, and Roehampton (with Stephen Vincent) June 2. Contact me closer to the event for details. Best, Mark Announcing The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry (University of California Press). http://go.ucpress.edu/WholeIsland "Not since the 1982 publication of Paul Auster's Random House Book of Twentieth Century French Poetry has a bilingual anthology so effectively broadened the sense of poetic terrain outside the United States and also created a superb collection of foreign poems in English. There is nothing else like it." John Palattella in The Nation ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:36:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Caroline Crumpacker Subject: May 21 Great Small Works Parties Comments: To: Roberto Rossi Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes HOLD THE DATE: FRIDAY MAY 21ST TWO BRILLIANT PARTIES FOR GREAT SMALL WORKS = **************************************************************************= ******* FRIDAY, MAY 21 ONE NIGHT IN TWO PARTS PART ONE: 7:00 PM CHAMPAGNE CABARET 7:00pm at One Arm Red 10 Jay Street #903 in DUMBO Champagne, Wine, Food, Margaret Leng Tan on Toy Piano & Rima Fand on =20 violin!! Tickets $50 PART TWO: 10:00 PM onward=85BALKAN BRASS - FUNK DANCE FEST! 10:00pm onward at Saint Ann's Warehouse 38 Water Street in DUMBO DJs and Live Bands, including Slavic Soul Party! & Spanglish Fly Tickets $15 OR Tickets for both parties $60 All $$ raised goes to support the Ninth Toy Theater Festival and Great =20= Small Works. For more information about the benefit and tickets, go to = www.greatsmallworks.org And here, dear readers, is more info. on the parties Champagne Cabaret @ 7PM: Food, Wine, Performance! Virtuoso Performer Margaret Leng Tan Plays Toy PianoMargaret Leng Tan =20= has established herself as a major force in the American avant-garde. =20= She is renowned as a pre-eminent John Cage interpreter and for her =20 performances of American and Asian music that transcend the piano=92s =20= conventional boundaries. She has been called =93the queen of the toy =20= piano=94 by The New York Times. After discovering Cage=92s Suite for Toy = =20 Piano in 1993, Ms. Tan became fascinated with the artistic potential =20 of the toy piano and, more recently, with other toy instruments as =20 well. In her groundbreaking 1997 album, The Art of the Toy Piano =20 (Point/Universal), she elevated a humble toy to the status of a real =20 instrument. Over the past decade, Ms. Tan=92s diminutive music-theater =20= of nostalgia and humor has delighted audiences at festivals around the =20= world. Her new album She Herself Alone: The Art of the Toy Piano 2 =20 has just been released on Mode Records. Special Performance from Clare Dolan Clare is a Painter, Director, and =20= Performer of Cantastoria, Toy Theater, Outdoor Puppetry, and Stilt =20 Dancing, while simultaneously living a secret double life as a nurse =20 in her small Vermont town. She=92s a veteran of the Bread and Puppet =20= Theater, and founder of The Museum of Everyday Life. And of course=85The scintillating and educational "Short Entertaining =20= History of Toy Theater"by Dr. John Bell with the Great Small Works =20 Orchestra. *** Dance Fest @ 10PM: Debo Band Boston=92s own 11 piece Ethio-groove collective was created by = =20 Ethiopian-American saxophonist Danny Mekonnen as a way of exploring =20 the unique sounds that once filled the dance clubs of =93Swinging =20 Addis.=94 Since 2006, Debo Band has been immersed in the unlikely =20 confluence of traditional East African polyrhythms and pentatonic =20 scales, classic American soul and funk music, and the instrumentation =20= of Eastern European brass bands, producing a unique form of dance =20 music that Ethiopian audiences instantly recognize as the soundtrack =20 of their youth, carried from party to kitchen on the ubiquitous =20 cassette tapes of the time. With a unique instrumentation =96 including =20= horns, strings, and accordion =96 that is a nod to the big bands of =20 Haile Selassie=92s time, Debo Band is giving new life to these old =20 sounds, and playing it forward to a new generation and a broader =20 audience. Slavic Soul Party! is more than a band, it=92s a promise. Anyone who =20= has seen them live can attest to that. The massive brass band is a =20 supercollider of Eastern European sounds from the Balkans and all the =20= funk of American musical traditions like second-line, gospel, and =20 jazz. Hybridity isn=92t just a buzzword with this New York City-based =20= group =96 domestic and foreign, new and old =96 it=92s a fact of life. = The =20 fusion even carries over into the title of the band=92s fifth album, =20 Taketron, mashing up Japanese drummer Take Toriyama=92s love of =20 electronic music with the rapid fire of Balkan brass, and the =20 incessant creativity of some of New York=92s finest musicians. =93Fiery Balkan brass, hip-grinding American grooves, and ecstatic =20 anthems both new and old: Slavic Soul Party! is just what it says. =20 Brash and strong as slivovitz, these nine musicians have forged a =20 virtuosic new brass band music in the heart of New York City =96 melding = =20 Gypsy, East European, Mexican, and Asian immigrant backgrounds with =20 American jazz and soul =96 and =93developed a reputation for delivering = a =20 great time.=94 (NY Times) Spanglish Fly Spanglish Fly defines its sound as =931968 Barrio=94 =97 = =20 meaning the Spanish Harlem in the late 60s. The band is bent on =20 cooking up a spicy musical dish comprised of bugaloo, Latin soul and =20 shingaling. Their recipe, in their own words: =93Two pounds of hot mambo = =20 stirred together with fifteen ounces of Motor-City Motown, deep fried =20= for three hours, and you get a bucket load of mouthwatering soul =20 latino.=94 The recent EP is Latin Soul y Bugal=FA, featuring special = guest =20 DJ Turmix and a performance by the Rude Mechanical Orchestra."They =20 will make you dance for sure." -- REmezcla.com and DJ Dusty Walker mastering the mix on the twin turntables=85 and special guests to be announced soon... FOR MORE INFO. AND TO BUY TIX GO TO WWW.GREATSMALLWORKS.ORG Final= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:42:28 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jeffrey Side Subject: Review of 'Cyclones in High Northern Latitudes' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First incoming review of 'Cyclones in High Northern Latitudes' at 9th Street Laboratories: http://9thstlab.blogspot.com/ The review is beneath the authors' commentary. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:31:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ana_Bo=BEi=E8evi=E6?= Subject: NEXT WEEK: Annual Chapbook Festival on Monday & Tuesday! Comments: To: dusie-kollektiv@googlegroups.com, pussipo@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ANNUAL CHAPBOOK FESTIVAL Monday May 3 &Tuesday May 4, 2010 The Festival celebrates the chapbook as a work of art and as a medium for alternative and emerging writers and publishers. Now in its second year, the festival features a two-day bookfair with chapbook publishers from around the country, workshops, marathon poetry readings, and a closing-night reading of prize-winning Chapbook Fellows. At the CUNY Graduate Center, 365 Fifth Avenue and 34th Street, NYC. Full schedule at www.chapbookfestival.org and below. Co-sponsored by The Office of Academic Affairs, The Center for the Humanities, The Graduate Center and MFA Programs in Creative Writing of the City University of New York, The Center for Book Arts, Poets House, Poetry Society of America, and Poets & Writers ________________________________________ Schedule of Events Bookfair 11:30am to 7pm both days (May 3-4) in the Proshansky Auditorium Lobby, C Level Free and open to the public MONDAY, MAY 3, 2010 Workshops C Level Breakout Rooms Free registration required. To attend workshops, please register by e-mailing abozicevic@gc.cuny.edu 10 =96 11:30am Producing Chapbooks: A Workshop for Poets Brenda Iijima (Portable Press at Yo-Yo Labs) and Rachel Levitsky (Belladonna*), and Lonely Christopher (The Corresponding Society) 10 =96 11:30am Do-It-Yourself Chapbooks: Make and Distribute Your Own Mary Gannon and Jean Hartig (Poets & Writers Magazine), Emily Goodale (Brave Men Press), Matvei Yankelevich (Ugly Duckling Presse), and Adam Robinson (Publishing Genius) 11:30am =96 1pm Producing Chapbooks: A Workshop for Publishers Jan Heller Levi (Hunter College), Rachel Levitsky (Belladonna*), and Marshall Webber (Booklyn) 11:30am =96 1pm Chapbooks as Art Objects Roni Gross (Roni Gross Design), and Jeremy Thompson (The Autotypograph), with Sarah Nicholls (Center for Book Arts) Chapbook Poets: A Marathon Reading 2 =96 7pm, C Level Breakout Rooms Poets from participating presses read. Full lineup to be announced at www.chapbookfestival.org soon. Free and open to the public. Opening Reception 7 =96 8pm, Proshansky Auditorum Lobby TUESDAY, MAY 4, 2010 Workshops C Level Breakout Rooms Free registration required. To attend workshops, please register by e-mailing abozicevic@gc.cuny.edu 10 =96 11:30am Producing Chapbooks: A Workshop for Poets Sommer Browning and Tony Mancus (Flying Guillotine Press), Jill Magi (Sona Books), and Daniel Lin (Love Among the Ruins) 10 =96 11:30am Do-It-Yourself Chapbooks: Make and Distribute Your Own Mary Gannon and Jean Hartig (Poets & Writers Magazine), Emily Goodale (Brave Men Press), and Anna Moschovakis (Ugly Duckling Presse) 11:30am =96 1pm Producing Chapbooks: A Workshop for Publishers Jan Heller Levi (Hunter College), Andrew Levy (CRAYON Magazine), Sueyeun Juliette Lee (Corollary Press), and Charmaine Wheatley (Booklyn) 11:30am =96 1pm Chapbooks as Art Objects Roni Gross (Roni Gross Design) and Jeremy Thompson (The Autotypograph), with Sarah Nicholls (Center for Book Arts) Chapbook Poets: A Marathon Reading 2 =96 7pm, C Level Breakout Rooms Poets from participating presses read. Full lineup to be announced at www.chapbookfestival.org soon. Free and open to the public. PSA Chapbook Fellowship Reading 7pm, Martin E. Segal Theatre Alice Quinn with judges Mark Doty, Linda Gregg, and Arthur Sze, and winners Jocelyn Casey-Whiteman, Haines Eason, Heidi Johannesen Poon, and Stephanie Adams-Santos. Followed by reception. Free and open to the public. On Wednesday, May 5, The Center for Book Arts will host printing and bookbinding workshops, from 10-1 and 2-5. To sign up, call 212-481-0295. ________________________________________ Participating publishers 2nd Ave Poetry Bateau Press Belladonna* BOOK Works Booklyn BookThug Cervena Barva Press Concrete Wolf Chapbook Press Corollary Press CRAYON Creature Press Cy Gist Press CUNY Lost & Found DoubleCross Press Dusie Kollektiv Etched Press Factory Hollow Press Finishing Line Press Five Spice Poetry Flying Guillotine Press Forklift, Ohio Greying Ghost Press H_NGM_N Instance Press Kissena Park Press Little Scratch Pad Love Among the Ruins Magic Helicopter Books Minutes Books Noemi Press Open Thread Publications Pen Press Plan B Press Pleasure Boat Studio: A Literary Press Poets Wear Prada Poinciana Paper Press Portable Press at Yo-Yo Labs PresShop Rain Taxi River Poets Journal/Lilly Press Sarabande Books Seven Kitchens Press Slapering Hol Press Small Anchor Press Sona Books Spire Press sunnyoutside Tarpaulin Sky Press The Physiocrats Toadlily Press Ugly Duckling Presse Upset Press X-ing Press/Agriculture Reader and others! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:51:12 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: query: calling poets who are also musicians (or who dabble in music?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 there's a second generation -- well, maybe 1 1/2 generation while Mike Watt is in the 1st, Lydia Lunch, all of Sonic Youth (Lee Renaldo, Thurston Moore...) don't forget that presses that these musicians were able to found, like 12.13.61 and Soft Skull then continued to blur spoken word, music and poetry -- away from performance art Mike Watt talks about starting playing music with Creedence covers in high school, but then as his spiels and lyrics developed in the "Harvard of punk rock" began to consider these writings to be poems in their own right. -- All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:01:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: George Quasha Subject: Gary Hill/George Quasha/Charles Stein Tue 6:30 PM Electronic Arts Intermix NYC: An Art of Limina Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Hill/George Quasha/Charles Stein Tue 6:30 PM Electronic Arts =20 Intermix NYC screening/conversation/book launch for "An Art of Limina: =20= Gary Hill's Works and Writings" by George Quasha and Charles Stein; =20 Foreword by Lynne Cooke (Ediciones Poligrafa: Barcelona, 2009): 640 =20 pages, 980 illus. full color; cloth: Hardcover, 8.5 x 10.25 in. http://www.eai.org/eai/pressreleases/04_10_gary_hill_pr.html Tuesday, April 27, 20106:30 pmElectronic Arts Intermix (EAI) 535 West 22nd Street, 5th FloorNew York, NY 10011www.eai.org Admission free Please RSVP: info@eai.org Please join EAI for a special launch event celebrating the publication =20= of An Art of Limina: Gary Hill=E2=80=99s Works and Writings, a new = monograph =20 devoted to the works of artist Gary Hill. At EAI, Hill will appear in =20= conversation with the book's authors, George Quasha and Charles Stein, =20= poets, writers and artists who have worked interactively and performed =20= with Hill for over three decades. Hill will discuss and screen =20 selections from his early single-channel videos, tracing the =20 development of his distinctive approach to language, sound and the =20 moving image. Written in close connection with the artist and =20 featuring a foreword by Lynne Cooke, An Art of Limina is the most =20 comprehensive and in-depth treatment of Hill's work to date, =20 presenting extensive information on 104 of his works from the 1970s =20 through the present, as well as seminal writings by the artist. Gary Hill's art forges an important investigation into the =20 relationships between words and electronic images. Originally trained =20= as a sculptor, Hill began working in video in 1973 and has produced a =20= major body of single-channel video and video installations. Hill's =20 first tapes explored formal properties of the emerging medium, =20 particularly through integral conjunctions of electronic visual and =20 audio elements. This exploration would give way to thoroughly unique =20 investigations of linguistics and consciousness in works characterized =20= by their experimental rigor, conceptual precision and imaginative =20 leaps of discovery. Perhaps as much as any artist using image/sound =20 media, Hill's work in video is about, and is, a new form of writing. __________________________________ Gary Hill was born in 1951. He studied at the Arts Student League in =20 Woodstock, New York. Hill has been the recipient of numerous awards =20 and honors, most notably the prestigious Leone d'Oro Prize for =20 Sculpture at the Venice Biennale in 1995 and the John D. and Catherine =20= T. MacArthur Foundation Grant in 1998. Hill has taught at the Center =20 for Media Study, Buffalo; Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York; =20= and the Cornish College of the Arts, Seattle. Hill's installations and =20= videos have been seen throughout the world, in group exhibitions at =20 The Museum of Modern Art, New York; Documenta 8, Kassel, Germany; Long =20= Beach Museum of Art, California; and Stedelijk Museum, Amsterdam; =20 among other festivals and institutions. His work has also been the =20 subject of retrospectives and one-person shows at the Fondation =20 Cartier pour l'art contemporain, and Centre Georges Pompidou in Paris; =20= Whitney Museum of American Art, New York; San Francisco Museum of =20 Modern Art; Guggenheim Museum SoHo, New York; Museum f=C3=BCr =20 Gegenwartskunst, Basel; Museu d'Art Contemporani, Barcelona; =20 Kunstmuseum Wolfsburg; and The Museum of Modern Art, New York; among =20 others. Hill lives and works in Seattle. For more information about the works of Gary Hill, please visit: = www.eai.org George Quasha works across mediums to explore principles in common =20 within language, sculpture, drawing, video, sound, installation, and =20 performance. His fifteen books include poetry, anthologies and writing =20= on art. The recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship in video art and a =20 National Endowment for the Arts Fellowship in poetry, he has taught at =20= Stony Brook University (SUNY), Bard College, and The New School =20 Graduate Anthropology Department. With artist Susan Quasha he is =20 founder/publisher of Barrytown/Station Hill Press in Barrytown, New =20 York. Charles Stein is the author of eleven books of poetry. He holds a =20 Ph.D. in literature from The University of Connecticut at Storrs and =20 has taught at SUNY Albany and Bard College. His work includes =20 photography, sound poetry, and performance. He lives in Barrytown, New =20= York. __________________________________ An Art of Limina: Gary Hill=E2=80=99s Works and Writings was written by =20= George Quasha and Charles Stein, with foreward by Lynne Cooke. The =20 tenth title in the internationally acclaimed 20_21 Collection, An Art =20= of Limina has been published by Ediciones Pol=C3=ADgrafa, under the =20 direction of Gloria Moure. In the United States, An Art of Limina is =20 distributed by D.A.P./Distributed Art Publishers, Inc. ___________________________________ =20= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:54:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jack Kimball Subject: Faux | Other Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Announcing Faux | Other releases =85=85=85 A Hundred Posters, edited by Alan Davies (CD) Post~Twya: Reset, Jack Kimball The New Old Paint, Susie Timmons Memoir and Essay, Michael Gottlieb In the mid 1970s Alan Davies edited 40 issues of A Hundred Posters. =20 Among those whose work appeared were Ginsberg, Wieners, Eigner, =20 Weiner. The importance of the authors published makes this CD reissue =20= a solid indication of poetic directions for the present & future. Initially a spoof of John Ashbery's Flow Chart, Post~Twyla: Reset re-=20 emphasizes daybook metonymy, lexical captures, & graphical meta-=20 commentary to upset the "flow." Cantatas for experimental =20 instruments, jubilant disparities. Alan Davies calls P~T =20 "unremittingly Burroughs-in-bed." The New Old Paint is Susie Timmons's second poetry collection. Alice =20 Notley noted in her first collection Timmons's "naked" train of =20 thought & her "wit." The same applies here, fully resourceful, =20 totally unexpected, "Hello, I am your American flag / I know; hard to =20= believe, / a talking flag." Jennifer Moxley on Memoir and Essay: "A bright young poet arrives =20 penniless in a resplendently decaying New York where he finds a group =20= of like-minded writers. They join ranks and set out to challenge the =20 establishment. Gottlieb makes this old story new with crisp prose and =20= thoughtful personal details." Pre-order before publication, $13.00 each (rather than 16.00) or a =20 full set of 4 for 45.00 (limited offer). Visit: http://www.fauxpress.com Thanks!= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:11:21 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Poetica Review MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends and Colleagues: My latest Poetica review is of Peter Pereira's book of poems, "What's = Written on the Body": http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/weishaus/Poetica/blog-3.htm This is the third piece in the series: http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/weishaus/Poetica/intro.htm MS Explorer browser preferred. Text Size: Medium. -Joel Joel Weishaus Homepage: http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282 On-Line Archive:=20 www.cddc.vt.edu/host/weishaus/index.htm =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:22:58 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Alan Sondheim Subject: AMA Trio and Secret Orchestra at the Jazz Lounge, Tuesday May 4th MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The AMA Trio and Secret Orchestra at the Jazz Lounge, Tuesday May 4th Tuesday May 4th ESP LIVE @ The Jazz Lounge An experimental music series the 1st Tuesday of every month 520 Dekalb Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11205 - G train to Bedford/Nostrand Show starts promptly at 8:30! 8:30 pm Alan Sondheim (ESP 1048, ESP 1082) Azure Carter - voice Myk Freidman - lap-steel guitar Alan Sondheim - electric saz 9:30 pm Secret Orchestra David Gould - drums, percussion Yuko Fujiyama - piano Clif Jackson - bass More about Alan Sondheim: Alan Sondheim was born in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania; he lives with his partner, Azure Carter, in Brooklyn NY. He holds a B.A. and M.A. from Brown University in English. A new-media artist, writer, and theorist, he has exhibited, performed and lectured widely. Current interests include aesthetics and productions of virtual environ- ments and installations, mapping with motion capture and 3d laser scanners, Buddhist philosophy and its relation to avatars and online environments, and experimental choreography. Alan recorded two albums for ESP-Disk' in the 60s which melded free improvisation with electronic instrumentation. His latest recordings have been issued on Porter Records, Fire Museum & Qbico. More about Azure Carter: Azure Carter has been writing and performing her own songs for a number of years; she also performs with Foofwa d'Imobilite and Alan Sondheim. Azure is working on her own performances and sets, which are documented online. She has appeared in a number of videos, and sings with Myk Freedman and Alan Sondheim. More about Myk Freedman: Myk Freedman is a 29-year-old lap steel player, composer, arranger, and band leader. In 2003 he moved from Toronto to NYC to study music and pursue the American Dream. Since then, he has preformed with John Zorn, William Parker, Elliot Sharp, Cyro Baptista and Kenney Wessel, as well as with countless others. Myk's compositions have been recorded by many of his own groups, as well as by ensembles: The MK Groove Orchestra, In a China Shop and MARTIN & HAYNES, a Toronto duo made up of Justin Haynes and Jean Martin who released an entire record dedicated to his music entitled, FREEDMAN. His arrangements have been premiered at world famous venues such as The Blue Note, John Zorn's The Stone, The Knitting Factory and the 2004 Distillery Jazz Festival where he was nominated for the Emerging Artist Award. As the leader of Saint Dirt Elementary School, Myk has released three positively received albums on Canadian labels, Oval Window Records, Barnyard Records, and Rat Drifting. He splits his time between New York and North York (Ontario) and is currently completing his second songbook of fake folk music. More about Secret Orchestra: Secret Orchestra is an original group initiated by Clif Jackson in 2007 after the trio had already played together as a rhythm section in various other projects. It became apparent that they had a connection and shared osme similar musical ideas. However, they also brought their very different backgrounds into the mix creating a strong dynamic and a wide spectrum of musical space to play in. Although Clif is the 'leader' of the group and writes a lot of the music, he is the youngest member and defers to the knowledge and experience of his elder band mates. Yuko contributes original compositions, as well, and they all contribute to arrangements and aesthetics when appropriate. Furthermore, improvisation is at the center of their music, leaving all of them open to create their own parts or to work within the composer's guidelines. Through a mix of composition and improvisation the overall musical aesthetic is grounded in a sense of direction and an exploration of colors, textures, silence, and rhythmic and melodic structures. -- Adam Downey Director of Promotions ESP-Disk' www.espdisk.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:31:09 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Annie Guthrie Subject: UA Poetry Center -please post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The University of Arizona Poetry Center recently received a $49,000 grant f= rom the National Endowment for the Humanities to further develop its prestigiou= s Audio/Video collection. The audio/video holdings are among the rarest materials in the Poetry Center=92s library collection of contemporary poetr= y. According to Executive Director Gail Browne, =93The recordings capture hist= oric readings by many of the most important writers of the past 50 years. Schol= ars can hear authors discuss their own works and often hear early versions of works-in-progress. Poetry lovers can hear favorite poems in the poet=92s o= wn voice.=94 The NEH Digital Humanities Initiative Grant will fund the work to= make the archive accessible to a much wider audience. For more information visit www.poetrycenter.arizona.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:02:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Poetry Project Subject: Special events at The Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, This week is The Poetry Project's annual fundraising week. We would love to see you at at least one of our three special events. If you cannot attend please consider sending a donation to the Project by following one of the links below.=A0 Your support will help The Poetry Project continue to deliver terrific, challenging, and risky work! If you can=B9t make it out but would like to support us you can become a member here: http://poetryproject.org/get-involved/become-a-member Or make a donation here: http://poetryproject.org/get-involved/donate-now Wednesday, April 28, 8 PM Alice Notley=A0 We are thrilled to present this evening with=A0Alice Notley=A0to kick off our Spring Fundraising Week. Notley has published over thirty books of poetry, including (most recently) Reason and Other Women;=A0Grave of Light:=A0New and Selected Poems 1970-2005;=A0Alma, or The Dead Women; and=A0In the Pines.=A0 With her sons, Anselm and Edmund Berrigan, Notley edited=A0The Collected Poems of Ted Berrigan. She is also the author of a book of essays on poets and poetry,=A0Coming After. Notley has received many prizes and awards including the Academy of American Poets=B9 Lenore Marshall Prize, the Poetry Society of America=B9s Shelley Award, the Griffin Prize, two NEA Grants, and the Los Angeles Times Book Award for Poetry. Considered an important figure in the New York School, Notley now lives and writes in Paris, France. This event will take place in the Sanctuary. Reception to follow. Admission is $10. =A0 Friday, April 30, 6:30 PM We Saw the Light: Conversations Between New American Cinema and Poetry =AD Talk & Screening=A0 In=A0We Saw the Light: Conversations Between the New American Cinema and Poetry=A0(University of Iowa Press, 2009), Daniel Kane draws on correspondenc= e and interviews with key figures in innovative cinema and writing of the 1960s to provide a fresh look at film=B9s influence on poetry. Please join us for a discussion amongst filmmakers and poets, and stay for a special screening of mainly 16mm prints. Talk (6:30-7:30 PM)=A0Ed Bowes,=A0Jacob Burckhardt,=A0Abigail Child,=A0Cole Heinowitz, Jonas Mekas, and=A0Jennifer Reeves. Moderated by=A0Daniel Kane. Film Program (8 PM) A selection of short films by=A0Ed Bowes, Stan Brakhage, Jacob Burckhardt, Rudy Burckhardt, Abigail Child, Christopher Maclaine, Jonas Mekas, Marie Menken,=A0and Jennifer Reeves. Stan Brakhage: Two: Creeley/McClure (1965) 16mm, color, silent, 5 min; Christopher Maclaine: The Man Who Invented Gold (1957) 16mm, color, sound, 14 min; Jonas Mekas: Hare Krishna (1966) 16mm, color, sound, 4 min; Abigail Child: Surface Noise (2000) 16mm, 18 min; Jennifer Reeves: excerpt from The Time We Killed (2004), 16mm; Rudy Burckhardt: The Automative Story (1954), 16mm, b&w, 15 min; Jacob Burckhardt: Black and White (2001) 16mm, b&w, 10 min; Marie Menken: Lita=B9s Party (1964?), 16mm, 4 min; Ed Bowes: excerpt fro= m Entanglement (2009) Program subject to change. Thanks to the Filmmakers=B9 Cooperative, Jacob Burckhardt & Andrew Lampert at Anthology Film Archives.=A0 This event will take place in the sanctuary. Admission is $10. Saturday, May 1, 8 PM John Ashbery=B9s Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror for Six Voices=A0 First published in 1975, John Ashbery=B9s long poem=A0Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror=A0begins as a meditation on an extraordinary Mannerist painting by Francesco Parmigianino. The poem, and the volume that includes it, remain among the most influential works of our time. In this performance, six readers with projected text and image make the work unusually available, as Ashbery=B9s tonal shifts and juxtapositions are taken up by different voices. With=A0Joan Arnold,=A0Andrea Barnet,=A0Jan Hanvik,=A0James Occhino,=A0Jim Paul and=A0Annie Walwyn-Jones.=A0 Arranged and directed by Jim Paul. This event will take place in the Sanctuary. Admission is $10. Become a Poetry Project Member! http://poetryproject.org/become-a-member Calendar: http://www.poetryproject.org/program-calendar The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.org www.poetryproject.org Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $95 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. If you=B9d like to be unsubscribed from this mailing list, please drop a line at info@poetryproject.org. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:18:10 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Vote Sina -- she's almost there... Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Amy King Vote for SINA now, please. Get her in there: http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/bloggingpoetcom/vote-for-the-2010-poet-laureate-of-the-blogosphere.html ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:46:26 EDT Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Ann Bogle Subject: T. S. Eliot quotation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Still looking over replies to my query. Perhaps other citations will =20 occur. It seems -- based on these replies and threads at the other lists= erv --=20 Eliot's is the lasting critical word on the subject. Here is his=20 statement in more context: =20 T.S. Eliot (1888=E2=80=931965). The Sacred Wood: Essays on Poetry and Cr= iticism. =20 1922.=20 _http://www.bartleby.com/200/sw11.html_=20 (http://www.bartleby.com/200/sw11.html)=20 =20 "We turn first to the parallel quotations from Massinger and Shakespeare= =20 collocated by Mr. Cruickshank to make manifest Massinger's indebtedness.= One=20 of the surest of tests is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets= =20 imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good po= ets=20 make it into something better, or at least something different. The good= =20 poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly=20 different from that from which it was torn; the bad poet throws it into= something=20 which has no cohesion. A good poet will usually borrow from authors remot= e=20 in time, or alien in language, or diverse in interest. Chapman borrowed= =20 from Seneca; Shakespeare and Webster from Montaigne. The two great follow= ers=20 of Shakespeare, Webster and Tourneur, in their mature work do not borrow= =20 from him; he is too close to them to be of use to them in this way.=20 Massinger, as Mr. Cruickshank shows, borrows from Shakespeare a good deal= . Let us=20 profit by some of the quotations with which he has provided us=E2=80=94= =20 =20 "Massinger: Can I call back yesterday, with all their aids =20 That bow unto my sceptre? or restore=20 My mind to that tranquillity and peace=20 It then enjoyed?=20 "Shakespeare: Not poppy, nor mandragora, =20 Nor all the drowsy syrops of the world=20 Shall ever medecine thee to that sweet sleep =20 Which thou owedst yesterday. "Massinger's is a general rhetorical question, the language just and pure= ,=20 but colourless. Shakespeare's has particular significance; and the =20 adjective "drowsy" and the verb "medecine" infuse a precise vigour. This= is, on =20 Massinger's part, an echo, rather than an imitation or a plagiarism=E2=80= =94the=20 basest, because least conscious form of borrowing. ... " =20 My fortune cookie this week: "You can't steal second base and keep one foo= t=20 on first." =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:24:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ana_Bo=BEi=E8evi=E6?= Subject: Now available: Lost & Found: The CUNY Poetics Document Initiative chapbooks! Comments: To: pussipo@googlegroups.com, dusie-kollektiv@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friend, We are delighted to announce the publication of the inaugural chapbook series in Lost & Found: The CUNY Poetics Document Initiative. Below find the official Press Release. You may have attended our prepublication party or heard of the project through the grapevine; now the books are available for purchase via mail and online at http://www.centerforthehumanitiesgc.org/lostandfound where they are on sale for $10 per issue, $35 per set, and $25 per subscription. On Monday and Tuesday, May 3rd and 4th, 10 a.m.=978 p.m., the set of chapbooks will also be available for purchase at the Center for Humanities=92 Annual Chapbook Festival. Look for the Lost & Found table. More information and a schedule for the festival are available at http://www.chapbookfestival.org. Thank you for your support =96 we hope you enjoy the books! Ammiel Alcalay, General Editor Aoibheann Sweeney, Director of the Center for the Humanities ### PRESS CONTACT: The Center for the Humanities 212.817.2005 abozicevic@gc.cuny.edu April 28, 2010 For Immediate release: Printed in elegant, stapled editions, the inaugural chapbook series of Lost & Found: The CUNY Poetics Document Initiative activates and puts into wider circulation important but little known texts drawn from personal and institutional archives. An ongoing publication project emerging from archival and textual scholarship done by students, faculty and guest fellows at the Graduate Center, the primary focus of Lost & Found is on writers who fall under the rubric of the New American Poetry. Since enhanced accessibility to a broad spectrum of archival material helps create alternative, divergent and enriched versions of literary and cultural history, the Lost & Found initiative takes the =93New American=94 rubric writ large, including the affiliated and unaffiliated, precursors and followers. The first set includes correspondence, essays, and journal selections: Amiri Baraka & Edward Dorn: Selections from the Collected Letters 1959-1960, ed. Claudia Moreno Pisano, includes letters written between 1959 and 1960 and covers a wide-range of discussions, =93from quotidian observations of being snowbound without enough heat...to the hashing out of experiences, fears, and anxieties directly related to the socio-political culture of the early 1960s=94. The Correspondence of Kenneth Koch & Frank O=92Hara 1955-1956, Part I and II, ed. Josh Schneiderman, includes =93letters [...] written over an eighteen-month period from 1955 to 1956 [that] provide an account of the poets=92 important, if often overlooked, friendship. Full of poems, literary gossip, and nods to artistic influences, Koch and O=92Hara=92s correspondence also chronicles a key moment in what would come to be known as the New York School of poets=94. Darwin & The Writers, Muriel Rukeyser, ed. Stefania Heim, is an unpublished essay about Darwin (rejected by The Nation in 1959). =93The piece is an exercise in the discovery, collection, and exposition of =93meeting-places=94 between scientific and literary imaginations, extending the intellectual work Rukeyser started in works like Willard Gibbs and The Life of Poetry.=94 1957-1977 Selections from the Journals Part I and II, Philip Whalen, ed. Brian Unger, is comprised of entries from Whalen=92s Journals from two key periods in his life: the mid to late 1950s following the public recognition of the Beats, and the early 1970s, after his return from Japan and his decision to live in a Zen monastery. The 1963 Vancouver Poetry Conference / Robert Creeley=92s Contexts of Poetry, with Daphne Marlatt=92s Journal Entries, ed. Ammiel Alcalay, is a Creeley lecture and conversation with Allen Ginsberg. Contexts of Poetry is from the landmark 1963 Vancouver Poetry Conference, with excerpts from the journals of the prominent Canadian poet Daphne Marlatt, chronicling her attendance as a student. Together, the set marks an auspicious beginning to a project that brings the finest traditions of small press publication and textual scholarship to a broader reading public. We are delighted to announce that the chapbooks are available at bookstores across the nation, from St. Marks Books to City Lights. Books may be ordered online at www.centerforthehumanitiesgc.org/lostandfound where they are on sale for $10 per issue, $35 per set, and $25 per subscription. On Monday and Tuesday, May 3rd and 4th, 10 a.m.=978 p.m., the set of chapbooks will also be available for purchase at the Center for Humanities=92 Annual Chapbook Festival. Look for the Lost & Found table. More information and a schedule for the festival are available at www.chapbookfestival.org. ### LOST & FOUND The CUNY Poetics Document Initiative Published by The Center for the Humanities Pub Date: May 2010 www.centerforthehumanitiesgc.org/lostandfound =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:10:05 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: Re: new chapbbooks and recent books by steve dalachinsky most easily gotten thru author expanded list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. insomnia poems for louise bourgeois 6$ small run 20 pages 2. invasion of the animal people 6$ small run 20 pages 3. the mantis - cecil poems ininquity press - 10 - editon first run 100 - 50 pages 4. reaching into the unknown with photos by jacques bisceglia rogueart paris 450 pages 140 poems 180 photos of/ for practically every well known musician in jazz scene since the 50's and even john cage $50 - edition 1000 5. logos and language with matt shipp rogueart paris $20 - edition 800 - 100 pages 6. christ amongst the fishes - a book of collage - $10 - edition 125 - 33 pages 7. hand painted french cd w/2 great french musican recorded in bordeaux and only available there and in paris $15 - editon 300 On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:33:11 +0530 steve dalachinsky writes: > 1. the mantis and other poems > written for cecil taylor - 1966 -2010 > with collage by dalachinsky > 50 pages > published by ininquity press in a first limited edition of 110 > 81/2 by 11 inches - $12 including shipping > available through steve - > > 2. invasion of the animal people - 20 pages > short cut up poems and collage by dalachinsky > 4 by 51/4 inches - $6 plus $2 shipping > available from propaganda press - at alt-current.com > or $6 directly from steve > > backchannel if interested > > ================================== > The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check > guidelines & sub/unsub info: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html > > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:31:17 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Catherine Daly Subject: Fwd: [NetBehaviour] Iowa Review on the Web In-Reply-To: <4BD778C2.8010106@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Iowa Review on the Web has been around for at least the past dozen years. The last issue I can find is from 2008 http://research-intermedia.art.uiowa.edu/tirw/vol9n2/ It began as a *parallel* web version, one less competitive to get into, but with a similar aesthetic to the print version. Later on, it morphed into a publication which featured "electronic literature" (with varying degrees of success), "TIR-W." However, it is apparently just gone, with a redesign and a new editor for the TIR portion. -- All best, Catherine Daly c.a.b.daly@gmail.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:44:02 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: One more time... [plus major linkage] Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sina Queryas has never written a word about my work nor are we friends (though she did read for me once several years ago). I don't even correspond with her. I posted a call to vote for her blogging because I really think she contributes, on her blog and at Poetry Foundation, to the discussion of literature, especially poetry.Voting ends tonight. The voting resets every 24 hours, so you can vote again if you have a mind to and think Sina's blogging might be worthy of the title-at-hand: http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/bloggingpoetcom/vote-for-the-2010-poet-laureate-of-the-blogosphere.html ~~ Also, I posted links of interest periodically. The latest -- http://lemonhound.blogspot.com/ Amy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:53:30 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Re: One more time... [plus major linkage] - Whoops! Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" , "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's my Major Linkage: http://amyking.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/major-linkage/ George Costanza ________________________________ From: amy king Sina Queryas has never written a word about my work nor are we friends (though she did read for me once several years ago). I don't even correspond with her. I posted a call to vote for her blogging because I really think she contributes, on her blog and at Poetry Foundation, to the discussion of literature, especially poetry.Voting ends tonight. The voting resets every 24 hours, so you can vote again if you have a mind to and think Sina's blogging might be worthy of the title-at-hand: http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/bloggingpoetcom/vote-for-the-2010-poet-laureate-of-the-blogosphere.html ~~ Also, I posted links of interest periodically. The latest -- http://lemonhound.blogspot.com/ Amy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:33:48 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Tenney Nathanson Subject: Poet for a Day on PennSound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PennSound just put up the file of my March reading at Simon Fraser (w Sarah Vap--her reading will likely go up shortly): http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/ (where it's temporarily the featured item) thanks to Michael Hennessey for featuring the raeding, and to Frank Parker of POG, guru of POGSound, who pried the two readings apart into separate files and to Steve Collis for the SFU invitation, and Gillian Jerome for UBC reading and lecture invitations ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 02:37:21 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: anne waldman reads MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anne Waldman & Ambrose Bye > with special guests Akilah Oliver & Tyler Burba > > Poetry, music, song > > LOCAL 269 $10 > > 269 East Houston > (the bar at the corner of Suffolk & E. Houston) > ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:49:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Nate Pritts Subject: Lord Dragonfly & submissions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all -=20 =20 Just a last second reminder that H_NGM_N is accepting full-length manuscrip= t submissions during our open reading period for a few more days: =20 http://www.h-ngm-n.com/s_bmissions/ =20 Our first full-length book is actually a reissue of William Heyen's long ou= t of print 1981 volume LORD DRAGONFLY. The book has new notes by the autho= r=2C a critical appreciation by Matthew Henriksen (which first appeared onl= ine in Octopus) & a new memoir-ish kind of thing by me. It'll be out in Ju= ne. =20 We're taking pre-orders for the book now & I'd really appreciate you thinki= ng about getting a copy - something especially to think about if you're aff= iliated with a university/library/poetics collection: =20 http://www.h-ngm-n.com/h_ngm_n-b__ks/h_ngm_n-reissues.html =20 =20 xo.n8.xo =20 ___________ :: Dr. Nate Pritts =20 :: http://www.natepritts.com =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb= ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:44:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: George Quasha Subject: C Bernstein/ Susan Bee/ G Quasha et al. in RAUCOUS - talks/performances relating to ARAKAWA & GINS at Barnard Friday April 30th 4-8 PM Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RAUCOUS CELEBRATING THE LAUNCHING OF AN ART-SCIENCE OF VIABILITY AG3: ONLINE -- THE THIRD INTERNATIONAL ARAKAWA AND GINS : ARCHITECTURE & PHILOSOPHY CONFERENCE CONCLUDING EVENT AT BARNARD COLLEGE April 30 (Friday) 4 to 8 p.m. LECTURES PERFORMANCES READINGS Serge Gavronsky Jondi Keane Professor of French, Barnard College Co-Director of AG3-Online, Senior Lecturer, Griffith University Martin E. Rosenberg Co-Director of AG3-Online, Independent Scholar Reuben Baron Professor Emeritus of Psychology, University of Connecticut Joan Baron Educational Psychologist Gordon Bearn Professor of Philosophy, Lehigh University Trish Glazebrook Professor of Philosophy, Dalhousie University Catherine Fitzmaurice Actor, Founder of Fitzmaurice Voicework Ilse Pfeifer Body Worker and Voice Coach Melissa Smedley Artist Charles Bernstein Poet and Artist Susan Bee Poet and Artist George Quasha Poet-Artist Barnard Hall 3009 Broadway Held Auditorium Admission Free as in Free as the Breeze An additional concluding event will take place at GUGGENHEIM MUSEUM on May 1 (Saturday) 1 to 5 p.m. SOLD OUT www .reversibledestiny .org http ://ag3.griffith.edu.au/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:14:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: David-Baptiste Chirot Subject: Patti Smith on Democracy Now today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a nearly hour long interview with Patti Smith conducted by Amy Goo= dman on Democracy Now tv today--i'd highly recommend it Patti Smith has a new book out which focuses on her lifelong friendship wit= h Robert mapplethorpe: in the interview she speaks esp. re their early year= s in NYC=2C living in the Chelsea Hotel=2C his foto of her for her first LP= etc she also speaks of her activism and songs for the Palestinian people and at= greater length re a teen-aged boy=2C a German Muslim Turk=2C imprisoned fi= ve years in Guantanamo for "reasons" based on a string of accidental circum= stances- a book which had a huge effect on me as a teenager (and ever since)had a si= milar effect on Patti Smith when she discovered it by chance=2C also as a t= eenager-- Angel Fores' Anthology of French Poetry: from Nerval to Valery--when the bo= ok was republished twenty five or so years later=2C Patti Smith wrote a ver= y inspiring introduction re her discovery of the book and its effects on he= r life=2C writing=2C music- it's an Anthology i can't highly enough recommend as people familiar with her work know=2C her second album=2C Radio Free Eth= iopia=2C is basically dedicated to and heavily influenced by Arthur Rimbaud= =2C his life and works i think of Patti Smith as a figure on the line of what the Japanese call a = National Treasure--through her poetry=2C music=2C activism and contribution= s to the Punk ethos and performance=2C she has had a huge impact worldwide = and is an examplar of the kind of artist most needed in times like these=2C= in which so many American poets and artists have turned their back on invo= lvement with anything controversial=2C which is to say=2C the basic issue o= f human rights for all persons and a sense of Shelley's call for poets acti= ng and creating as indeed the unacknowledged legislators of the world- thank you to Patti Smith and Amy Goodman for the inspiring and often hilar= ious interview--do tune in- =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb= ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:39:01 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: new chapbook by yuko otomo other books by her upon request MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit there's a lovely little book by artist and poet yuko otomo on propaganda press - a sunday afternoon in the isle of museum cover by the author poems about paintings and photos at the MET - $6 availble through the author - back channel or through alt-current.com ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:36:30 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: lainna el jabi on christine stewart on the globe & mail book blog (the 2nd last piece during my April "poetry month" curating tenure); Toronto (formerly Edmonton) poet/critic Lainna El Jabi on Edmonton (formerly Vancouver) poet/critic Christine Stewart http://www.theglobeandmail.com/books/in-other-words/poetry-month-lainna-lane-el-jabi-on-christine-stewart/article1550968/ tomorrow: rob on Kroetsch -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:14:40 +0530 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: steve dalachinsky Subject: correction waldman reading date and time MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anne Waldman & Ambrose Bye with special guests Akilah Oliver & Tyler Burba Poetry, music, song LOCAL 269 $10 $ 7 students and seniors 269 East Houston - May 10, 2010 8 pm (the bar at the corner of Suffolk & E. Houston) ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:16:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Dear Patrons of the Arts -- In less than two hours, plus... Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dearest Peeps, So the guy Sina is up against is getting votes from his very large paid-for-blogging audience (via Twitter @writersdigest x 43,000 followers, no lie). He gets paid to blog there. Sina Queyras blogs during her own personal time about literature, esp poetry, without expecting pay. She's a good blogger, selfless and interesting. The voting ends at midnight. Please consider dropping in and clicking her name? If you do and let me know, I'll send you a weird-o poem for your efforts, assuming you even want such a thing. Yes, I'm blatantly attempting to ply you. But poem or no, Sina deserves the recognition, in my humble estimation, so go there now -- and thanks lots! http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/bloggingpoetcom/vote-for-the-2010-poet-laureate-of-the-blogosphere.html Amy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:49:38 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: OT: Voting called quits! Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" , Discussion of Women's Poetry List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii They just called it a tie. The dude who runs it got tired: http://bloggingpoet.squarespace.com/bloggingpoetcom/poet-laureate-of-the-blogosphere-2010-a-tie.html Thanks to all who voted! You rock and your support is appreciated! Off to make up interview questions for the Ron P. man! G'night all, Amy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:15:53 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Chad Sweeney Subject: Issue 7 PWR Launch at Poetry Center MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please celebrate with us as we launch Issue Seven of Parthenon West Review Our first reading will be at San Francisco State University Poetry Center SFSU Humanities Building, Room 5121600 Holloway Ave., San Francisco Thursday, May 6, 2010, 7:00 p.m. featuring MAXINE CHERNOFF CAMILLE DUNGY ANHVU BUCHANAN HOLLIE HARDY FRAN=C7OIS LUONG editors David Holler and Chad Sweeney Maxine Chernoff is the author of six books of fi ction and eight books of poetry, most recently The Turning (2008) and Among the Names (2005), both from Apogee Press. She recently translated The Selected Poems of Friedrich H=F6lderlin (Omnidawn, 2009), with her husband Paul Hoover, with whom she also co-edits New American Writing. Chernoff is a professor and Chair of the Creative Writing program at San Francisco State University. Camille T. Dungy is author of What to Eat, What to Drink, What to Leave for Poison (Red Hen Press, 2006) and Suck on the Marrow (Red Hen Press, due January 2010). She is editor of Black Nature: Four Centuries of African American Nature Poetry (UGA, 2009) and co-editor of From the Fishouse: An Anthology of Poems that Sing, Rhyme, Resound, Syncopate, Alliterate, and Just Plain Sound Great (Persea, 2009). Dungy is associate professor of Creative Writing at San Francisco State University. Anhvu Buchanan's poems have appeared or are forthcoming in 580 Split, William and Mary Review, Boston Literary Magazine, Transfer, and Cream City Review. He is the first place winner of the 2009 Barbie Cage Haiku Contest and inaugural winner of Virginia Tech's Steger Poetry Prize. He co-curates the Living Room Reading series with poet Ric Delia and is finishing up his MFA at San Francisco State University. Hollie Hardy's poetry has appeared in Transfer, Milvia Street Journal, Goetry, and Boxcutter. She is an MFA candidate for poetry at San Francisco State University, where she also earned her BA in Creative Writing. She is a poetry editor for Fourteen Hillsand curator of The Velvet Revolution, a weekly open mic reading series. Her current project is a series of "Survival Poems" with titles ruthlessly appropriated from The Worst Case Scenario Survival Handbook. Fran=E7ois Luong, originally from Strasbourg, France, currently lives in San Francisco. His work has appeared or is forthcoming in Action Yes, Cannibal, Bombay Gin, New American Writing and elsewhere. In addition to his translations of R=E9mi Froger he is also translating Esther Tellermann, a.rawlings and other French and Canadian poets. His translation of angela rawlings' The wide slumber for lepidopterists (Coach House Books, Canada, 2005) is forthcoming in 2012 through Un clou dans le fer (France). San Francisco State University Poetry Center is in Room 512 of SFSU's Humanities Building. 1600 Holloway Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94132 For more information email: editors@parthenonwe streview. com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:00:59 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: Thank you, SPD. Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bypass the corporations: Slaves to Do These Things is now available through Small Press Distribution! http://www.spdbooks.org/Producte/9781935402312/slaves-to-do-these-things.aspx Amy ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:33:58 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: amy king Subject: TONIGHT - Friday, April 30th @ 7 p.m. Sandy Florian, Lara Glenum, Lesley Jenike, Saeed Jones, Metta Sama & Tom Sleigh! Comments: To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sandy Florian, Lara Glenum, Lesley Jenike, Saeed Jones, Metta Sama & Tom Sl= eigh!=0A =0AFriday, April 30 @ 7 p.m. =0A =0AGoodbye Blue Monday =0AEdge-of= -Williamsburg =3D =0ABushwick, Brooklyn=0Ahttp://stainofpoetry.com=0A=0A = =0ASandy Florian is the author of Telescope (Action Books), 32 Pedals &=0A4= 7 Stops (Tarpaulin Sky), The Tree of No (Action Books), Prelude to=0AAir Fr= om Water (Elixir Press), and On Wonderland & Waste (Sidebrow=0APress). She = lives in San Francisco where she is an affiliate artist at=0AHeadlands Cent= er for the Arts and works as one of the =E2=80=9Cother=E2=80=9D editors=0Af= or Tarpaulin Sky Journal. For more information, visit her blog at=0Ahttp://= boxingthecompass.blogspot.com=0A =0A~=0A =0ALara Glenum is a poet, scholar,= and translator. She is the author of=0Atwo books of poetry: The Hounds of = No (Action Books, 2005) and Maximum=0AGaga (Action Books, 2009). Her chapbo= ok, The Hotling Chronicles, is=0Adue out from Tarpaulin Sky later this year= . With Arielle Greenberg,=0Ashe is the co-editor of Gurlesque, an anthology= of contemporary=0Awomen=E2=80=99s poetry and visual art (Saturnalia Books,= 2010). She has=0Arecently been collaborating with sound, visual, and digit= al media=0Aartists on Meat Out of the Eater [hyperlink:=0Ahttp://vimeo.com/= 7215889], a multimedia installation. She teaches in=0Athe MFA program in Cr= eative Writing at LSU.=0A =0A~=0A =0ALesley Jenike is the author of Ghost o= f Fashion (CustomWords, 2009).=0AShe is a native of Cincinnati, OH and rece= ived her doctorate from the=0AUniversity of Cincinnati in 2008. Her poems h= ave appeared in POOL,=0ACourt Green, Brooklyn Review, Gulf Coast, Sou=E2=80= =99Wester, Verse, Alaska=0AQuarterly Review, Forklift, Ohio, Washington Squ= are, Crab Orchard=0AReview, and others. She=E2=80=99s currently Assistant P= rofessor of English at=0AColumbus College of Art and Design.=0A =0A~=0A =0A= Saeed Jones is currently completing his MFA in Creative Writing at=0ARutger= s University =E2=80=93 Newark. He=E2=80=99s a graduate of Western Kentucky= =0AUniversity where he won the Jim Wayne Miller Award for Poetry. While=0Aa= t Western, he was the poetry editor for Rise Over Run Magazine. His=0Awork = has appeared or is forthcoming in publications like StorySouth,=0ABarnwood = Magazine, Splinter Generation, The Adirondack Review, Mary,=0Aand Ganymede.= He blogs regularly at saeedjones.wordpress.com=0A =0A~=0A =0AMetta Sama sa= ys: I am a poet, professor, activist, painter, collage=0Aartist, fiction an= d essay writer. My poetry, currently, looks at=0Ainstabilities in writings = by persons subjected to various forms of=0Aoppression. I am interested in t= he joy of making and creating art and=0Astories and images that will, event= ually, disintegrate, return to the=0Asource it came from. I question what i= t means to make thoughts, ideas,=0A& feelings stable, to devote oneself to = immortality. My work has=0Aappeared in Proud Flesh Journal, The Drunken Boa= t, Blackbird, Paterson=0ALiterary Review, Yellow Medicine Review, Crab Orch= ard, and other=0Ajournals, & I am the author of one published collection of= poems.=0A =0A~=0A =0ATom Sleigh=E2=80=99s most recent book of poetry, Spac= e Walk (Houghton Mifflin,=0A2007), won the 2008 Kingsley Tufts Award. His b= ook of essays,=0AInterview with a Ghost, was published by Graywolf Press in= 2006. He=0Ahas also published After One, Waking, The Chain, The Dreamhouse= , Far=0ASide of the Earth, Bula Matari/Smasher of Rocks, and a translation = of=0AEuripides=E2=80=99 Herakles. He has won the Shelley Prize from the PSA= , and=0Agrants from the Lila Wallace Fund, American Academy of Arts and=0AL= etters, the Guggenheim and NEA. His new book, Army Cats, is=0Aforthcoming i= n spring, 2011, from Graywolf Press. He teaches in the=0AMFA Program at Hun= ter College.=0A =0A =0Aat=0A =0AGoodbye Blue Monday=0A1087 Broadway=0A(corn= er of Dodworth St)=0ABrooklyn, NY 11221-3013 =0A(718) 453-6343=0A =0AJ M Z = trains to Myrtle Ave=0Aor J train to Kosciusko St=0A =0A~=0A =0AHosted by A= my King and Ana Bo=C5=BEi=C4=8Devi=C4=87=0A =0Ahttp://amyking.org=0A=0A=0A = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:41:33 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Comments: RFC822 error: Invalid RFC822 field - "MARK YOUNG:". Rest of header flushed. From: amy king Subject: POET-EDITOR issue up at Otoliths...and Poetry Foundation! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Issue #17 of Otoliths, the = From OTOLITHS EDITOR =0AMARK YOUNG:=0A =0A=0A=0AIssue #17 of Otoliths, the = southern autumn, 2010 =0Aissue, has just gone live. Four years old today!= =0A=0A=0A =0A&, since it's also May Day, =0AI was going to have Billy Bragg= singing "The =0AInternationale" as background=E2=80=94you can, if you've g= ot a server that opens =0Alinks in a new window, still have it: just click = on the link=E2=80=94but there's enough =0Ain this issue to allow an unaccom= panied announcement. As befits a 4th birthday issue, it's a bit more packed= than normal. In addition to the usual =0Abroad selection of paintings, pro= se, photographs, sermons, assemblages, poetry =0Aof all shapes, sizes, & st= yles, &, as always, a large offering of vizpo, =0Athe issue also includes t= wo special features; one of which, since it was to have =0Abeen a complete = issue of another journal which has, unfortunately, gone into =0Ahiatus, is = actually magazine-sized.=0A=0A=0A =0AIn the standard part of the =0Aissue y= ou'll find work by Michael Farrell, Marilyn R. Rosenberg , Eric Arnold, =0A= Jim McCrary, Reed Altemus, Adam Fieled, Bob Heman, Tim =0AWright, Samit R= oy, Caleb Puckett, Charles Freeland, gustave =0Amorin, dan raphael, Philip = Byron Oakes, Dorothee Lang & Karyn Eisler & =0ASusan Gibb, Sam Langer, Geof= Huth, Esa M=C3=A4kij=C3=A4rvi, Scott Metz, Andrew McEwan, =0AFelino Sorian= o, Travis Macdonald, Paul Siegell, Alan Davies, Kirsten Kaschock, =0ARaymon= d Farr, John M. Bennett, John M. Bennett & Sheila E. Murphy, Jeff Harrison= , Letitia Trent, Michelle Cahill, Valery =0AOisteanu, Irving Weiss, Martin = Edmond, Carlos Soto Rom=C3=A1n, Jim Meirose, SJ =0AFowler, Felipe Cussen, G= rzegorz Wr=C3=B3blewski, James Mc =0ALaughlin, Michael Steven, Arkava Das, = Michael Caylo-Baradi, J. D. Nelson, Jal =0ANicholl, Jenny Enochsson, Joe Ba= laz, Glenn R. Frantz, Michael Brandonisio, Jon =0ACurley & Gg Re, sean burn= , Bobbi Lurie, Jeff Klooger, Richard Kostelanetz, =0ASilvio De Gracia, Davi= d-Baptiste Chirot, Alexander Jorgensen, Anne Gorrick, John =0AMoore William= s, Marcia Arrieta, Mara Patricia Hernandez, Bill Drennan, nick-e =0Amelvill= e, Corey Wakeling, John Martone, Jessie Janeshek, Thomas Fink (reviewing = =0ADavid Lehman's Yeshiva Boys), & Emma Smith.=0A=0A=0A =0AThe first specia= l feature is ROCKPILE =0Aon the road, with poems by Michael Rothenberg & Da= vid Meltzer, photos by =0ATerri Carri=C3=B3n, & an introduction by Larry Sa= wyer.=0A=0A=0A =0AThe second special feature is Poet-Editors, =0Acurated & = introduced by Eileen R. Tabios. 43 poet-editors respond to the =0Aquestion:= "What =0Ais (or has been) your favorite editing project and why?" The resp= ondees, who =0Aalso provide=E2=80=94sometimes quite extensive=E2=80=94sampl= es of their work, are: William Allegrezza, Ivy Alvarez, Anny Ballardini, Jo= i Barrios, =0AJohn Bloomberg-Rissman, Ana Bo=C5=BEi=C4=8Devi=C4=87, Garrett= Caples, Brian Clements, Bruce =0ACovey, Del Ray Cross, Patrick James Dunag= an, Elaine Equi, Adam Fieled, Thomas =0AFink, Luis H. Francia, Geoffrey Gat= za, Tim Gaze, Crg Hill, Aileen Ibardaloza, =0AVincent Katz, Jukka-Pekka Ker= vinen, Burt Kimmelman, Mark Lamoureux, Amanda =0ALaughtland, Timothy Liu, D= ana Teen Lomax, Joey Madia, Sandy McIntosh, Didi =0AMenendez, Lars Palm, Gu= illermo Parra, Ernesto Priego, Sam Rasnake, Barbara Jane =0AReyes, Christop= her Rizzo, Patrick Rosal, Sarah Rosenthal, Susan M. Schultz, =0ALogan Ryan = Smith, Jill Stengel, Fiona Sze-Lorrain, Jean Vengua, & Mark =0AYoung. =0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A& if that isn't enough, the =0Aprint parts of the previous issu= e of Otoliths, the southern summer 2010 issue, =0Aare now available from Th= e Otoliths =0AStorefront.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttp://the-otolith.blogspot.com/= 2010/04/poeteditorsi-contents.html=0A=0A=0A =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:23:13 +1000 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Mark Young Subject: Otoliths #17 is now live MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Issue #17 of Otoliths , the southern autumn, 2010 issue, has just gone live. Four years old today! &, since it's also May Day, I was going to have Billy Bragg singing "The Internationale" as background=E2=80=94you can, if you've got a server that opens links in a ne= w window, still have it: just click on the link=E2=80=94but there's enough in this is= sue to allow an unaccompanied announcement. As befits a 4th birthday issue, it's a bit more packed than normal. In addition to the usual broad selection of paintings, prose, photographs, sermons, assemblages, poetry of all shapes, sizes, & styles, &, as always, a large offering of vizpo, the issue also includes two special features; one of which, since it was to have been a complete issue of another journal which has, unfortunately, gone into hiatus, is actually magazine-sized. In the standard part of the issue you'll find work by Michael Farrell, Marilyn R. Rosenberg , Eric Arnold, Jim McCrary, Reed Altemus, Adam Fieled, Bob Heman, Tim Wright, Samit Roy, Caleb Puckett, Charles Freeland, gustav= e morin, dan raphael, Philip Byron Oakes, Dorothee Lang & Karyn Eisler & Susa= n Gibb, Sam Langer, Geof Huth, Esa M=C3=A4kij=C3=A4rvi, Scott Metz, Andrew Mc= Ewan, Felino Soriano, Travis Macdonald, Paul Siegell, Alan Davies, Kirsten Kaschock, Raymond Farr, John M. Bennett, John M. Bennett & Sheila E. Murphy= , Jeff Harrison, Letitia Trent, Michelle Cahill, Valery Oisteanu, Irving Weiss, Martin Edmond, Carlos Soto Rom=C3=A1n, Jim Meirose, SJ Fowler, Felip= e Cussen, Grzegorz Wr=C3=B3blewski, James Mc Laughlin, Michael Steven, Arkava= Das, Michael Caylo-Baradi, J. D. Nelson, Jal Nicholl, Jenny Enochsson, Joe Balaz= , Glenn R. Frantz, Michael Brandonisio, Jon Curley & Gg Re, sean burn, Bobbi Lurie, Jeff Klooger, Richard Kostelanetz, Silvio De Gracia, David-Baptiste Chirot, Alexander Jorgensen, Anne Gorrick, John Moore Williams, Marcia Arrieta, Mara Patricia Hernandez, Bill Drennan, nick-e melville, Corey Wakeling, John Martone, Jessie Janeshek, Thomas Fink (reviewing David Lehman's *Yeshiva Boys*), & Emma Smith. The first special feature is ROCKPILE on the road, with poems by Michael Rothenberg & David Meltzer, photos by Terri Carri=C3= =B3n, & an introduction by Larry Sawyer. The second special feature is Poet-Editors, curated & introduced by Eileen R. Tabios. 43 poet-editors respond to the question: *"**What is (or has been) your favorite editing project and why?" The respondees, who also provide=E2=80=94sometimes quite extensive=E2=80=94= samples of their work, are: *William Allegrezza, Ivy Alvarez, Anny Ballardini, Joi Barrios, John Bloomberg-Rissman, Ana Bo=C5=BEi=C4=8Devi=C4=87, Garrett Caples, Brian= Clements, Bruce Covey, Del Ray Cross, Patrick James Dunagan, Elaine Equi, Adam Fieled, Thomas Fink, Luis H. Francia, Geoffrey Gatza, Tim Gaze, Crg Hill, Aileen Ibardaloza, Vincent Katz, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen, Burt Kimmelman, Mark Lamoureux, Amanda Laughtland, Timothy Liu, Dana Teen Lomax, Joey Madia, Sandy McIntosh, Didi Menendez, Lars Palm, Guillermo Parra, Ernesto Priego, Sam Rasnake, Barbara Jane Reyes, Christopher Rizzo, Patrick Rosal, Sarah Rosenthal, Susan M. Schultz, Logan Ryan Smith, Jill Stengel, Fiona Sze-Lorrain, Jean Vengua, & Mark Young. & if that isn't enough, the print parts of the previous issue of Otoliths, the southern summer 2010 issue, are now available from The Otoliths Storefront . =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:53:04 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Rob McLennan Subject: globe & mail books blog; poetry month, All April, thanks to Judith Fitzgerald and Peter Scowen, Ive been curating twenty spaces on the Globe & Mail book blog, asked for poets to write on other poets. The suggestion on the Globe site is deceptive: I didnt pick any of the subjects (but for mine, obviously), but asked twenty writers of poetry to write on whomever they chose. Over the weeks, some were forced to drop out for various reasons, unable to complete the task, and even further were asked (originally I wasnt planning on writing any at all, but somehow managed to write two, which wasnt my intention). It was pretty entertaining, the idea of including all sorts of writers who might otherwise not be allowed a Globe & Mail anything (where have all the poetry reviews gone? Why doesnt the Focus section write on poets more often? Etc) Thanks to all the writers who contributed magnificent pieces (there were days when twenty weren't nearly enough)! Heres the entire list of pieces back; rob mclennan on Robert Kroetsch; Lainna Lane El Jabi on Christine Stewart; Natalie Zina Walschots on Jenny Sampirisi; Wanda OConnor on Artie Gold; Clint Burnham on Jeff Derksen; Joe Blades on Phoebe Tsang; Angela Carr on Kate Eichhorn; Stan Rogal on Gregory Betts; Sharon Harris on Jennifer LoveGrove; derek beaulieu on Helen Hajnoczky; Jesse Patrick Ferguson on Peter Norman; Nicole Markotic on Nikki Reimer; Rob Budde on Ken Belford; Sachiko Murakami on a.rawlings; Phil Hall on Laurie Duggan; Monica Kidd on Stan Dragland; Marcus McCann on Nicholas Lea; Stephen Collis on Kim Minkus; Kim Minkus on Stephen Collis; rob mclennan on Pearl Pirie; Judith Fitzgerald on rob mclennan (opener); & links to individual pieces here; http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/2010/04/rob-curates-globe-mail-book-blog-final.html -- writer/editor/publisher ...STANZAS mag, above/ground press & Chaudiere Books (www.chaudierebooks.com) ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...poetry - wild horses (U of Alberta) ...2nd novel - missing persons www.abovegroundpress.blogspot.com * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:49:40 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ana_Bo=BEi=E8evi=E6?= Subject: MON & TUES: Chapbook Festival! Marathon Reading Details! Comments: To: dusie-kollektiv@googlegroups.com, pussipo@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please don=92t forget to join us for the Annual Chapbook Festival on Monday & Tuesday next week! The spectacular marathon reading schedule is below. The bookfair is open from 11:30-7:30 on Monday and Tuesday. At the Graduate Center, CUNY, 365 Fifth Avenue, corner of 34th Street in Manhattan. Directions & details at http://www.chapbookfestival.org Marathon Reading Schedule MONDAY, MAY 3 2-3 PM River Poets Journal/Lilly Press: Phoebe Wilcox Poinciana Paper Press: Angelique V. Nixon 2nd Ave Poetry: Jill Magi Bateau Press: James Grinwis Belladonna*: E. Tracy Grinnell 3-4 PM BOOK Works: Estha Weiner H_NGM_N: Ben Mirov Cervena Barva Press: Susan Lewis CUNY Lost & Found: Josh Schneiderman&Claudia Pisano 4-5 PM Portable Press at Yo-Yo Labs: Brenda Iijima Creature Press: John Harkey Cy Gist Press: Veronica Wong DoubleCross Press: Sarah Green Dusie Kollektiv: Mark Lamoureux&Amanda Deutch 5-6 PM Etched Press: Kevin Dublin Finishing Line Press: Ruth Handel&Melora Walters Forklift, Ohio: Amy King Octopus Books: Emily Pettit Brave Men Press 6-7 PM Ugly Duckling Presse: Dorothea Lasky Greying Ghost Press Kissena Park Press: Lana Hechtman Ayers Little Scratch Pad: Douglas Manson Love Among the Ruins: Laura Jaramillo TUESDAY, MAY 4 2-3 PM Flying Guillotine Press: Steven Karl&Angela Veronica Wong Magic Helicopter Books: Carolyn Zaikowski Noemi Press Pen Press: Marcos Wasem&Mercedes Roff=E9 Center for Book Arts: Sharon Dolin 3-4 PM Plan B Press Pleasure Boat Studio: A Literary Press: Zeadryn Meade Rain Taxi Corollary Press: Jason Schwartz Big Hands Magazine 4-5 PM Slapering Hol Press: Susana H. Case Small Anchor Press: Joseph Mcelroy Sona Books: Paolo Javier Spire Press: Shelly Reed&Matthew Hittinger The Corresponding Society: David Swesen 5-6 PM Poets Wear Prada: Austin Alexis&Michael Montlack The Physiocrats: Daniel Nohejl BookThug: Cara Benson sunnyoutside: MRB Chelko Tarpaulin Sky Press 6-7 PM Booklyn: Charmaine Wheatley Instance Press: Kim Lyons Toadlily Press: George Kraus Upset Press: Denise Galang&Amy Lemmon-Bowen X-ing Press/Agriculture Reader =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:07:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: "Kimmelman, Burt" Subject: William Bronk - Charles Olson Correspondence (etc.) in Otoliths 17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone, I'm writing to announce that the William Bronk - Charles Olson corresponden= ce has been republished-among a huge amount of sumptuous literary material = in the new issue of Otoliths (number 17, just out, here: http://the-otolith= .blogspot.com/. (This correspondence can still be obtained from Ralph Maud= who edits the Minutes of the Charles Olson Society, and the hard copy issu= e of the Minutes contains reproductions of some of the letters written by h= and.) In case you are interested in Bronk's work, let me mention that, also in th= is issue of Otoliths, there is a reproduced essay of mine on the William Br= onk - Robert Meyer correspondence (which originally appeared in The Body of= This Life: Reading William Bronk, ed. David Clippinger; Talisman House, Pu= bliishers, 2001). As well, there is in the issue an intro essay on what it = was like to edit Bronk's letters, those that I did (which is appearing for = the first time). You might wish to go directly here, to the special section on Poet-Editors,= curated by Eileen Tabios, who asked forty-three such poets "What is (or ha= s been) your favorite editing project and why?": http://the-otolith.blogspot.com/2010/04/poet-editors-front-page.html Here's the list of other contributors to Eileen's section (lifted as is fro= m the website): William Allegrezza Ivy Alvarez Anny Ballardini Joi Barrios = John Bloomberg-Rissman Ana Bo=BEi=E8evi=E6 Garrett Caples Brian Clements Bruce Cove= y Del Ray Cross Patrick James Dunagan Elaine Equi Adam Fieled Thomas Fink = Luis H. Francia Geoffrey Gatza Tim Gaze Crg Hill Aileen Ibardaloza Vinc= ent Katz Jukka-Pekka Kervinen Mark Lamoureux Amanda Laughtland Timothy Liu Dana Teen Lomax Joey Madia Sandy McIntosh D= idi Menendez Lars Palm Guillermo Parra Ernesto Priego Sam Rasnake Ba= rbara Jane Reyes Christopher Rizzo Patrick Rosal Sarah Rosenthal Susan M. Schultz Logan Ryan Smith Jill Sten= gel Fiona Sze-Lorrain Jean Vengua Mark Young My special thanks to Eileen, and to Mark Young, for dreaming up this projec= t and being willing to see it through. Best wishes, Burt =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:10:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" Sender: "Poetics List (UPenn, UB)" From: Jennifer Karmin Subject: May 7-8: Cain, Karmin & Shaw in Providence/Cambridge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Readings by: Amina Cain Jennifer Karmin Anne Shaw FRIDAY, MAY 7th @ 6 PM Symposium Books 240 Westminster Street Providence, RI http://www.symposiumbooks.com SATURDAY, MAY 8th @ 3 PM Small Animal Project Outpost 186 186 1/2 Hampshire Street Cambridge, MA http://smallanimalproject.com AMINA CAIN is the author of the short story collection I Go To Some Hollow (Les Figues Press), and an upcoming chapbook, Tramps Everywhere (Blanc Press/PARROT Series). She is also a current Visiting Lecturer at the University of California, San Diego. Her work has appeared in publications such as 3rd bed, Action Yes, Denver Quarterly, La Petite Zine, onedit, and Sidebrow; is forthcoming in the Encyclopedia Project, MoonLit, and Sous Rature; and has been translated into Polish on MINIMALBOOKS. JENNIFER KARMIN's text-sound epic, Aaaaaaaaaaalice, was published by Flim Forum Press in 2010. She curates the Red Rover Series and is co-founder of the public art group Anti Gravity Surprise. Her multidisciplinary projects have been presented at festivals, artist-run spaces, community centers, and on city streets across the U.S., Japan, and Kenya. A proud member of the Dusie Kollektiv, she is the author of the Dusie chapbook Evacuated: Disembodying Katrina. Walking Poem, a collaborative street project, is featured online at How2. At home in Chicago, Jennifer teaches creative writing to immigrants at Truman College and works as a Poet-in-Residence for the public schools. ANNE SHAW is the author of Undertow (Persea Books), winner of the Lexi Rudnitsky Poetry Prize. Her work has appeared or is forthcoming in Black Warrior Review, Beloit Poetry Journal, Drunken Boat, Green Mountains Review, and New American Writing. She has also been featured in Poetry Daily and From the Fishouse. Her extended poetry project can be found on Twitter at twitter.com/anneshaw. ================================== The Poetics List is moderated & does not accept all posts. Check guidelines & sub/unsub info: http://epc.buffalo.edu/poetics/welcome.html