English 88v - fall 1999
selective archive of important announcements,
introductory postings, etc.

introductions by 88v'ers

selective archive of important announcements and postings:

• first hello
• buy our book
• we start
• introduce yourselves
• now get started on the poems
• office hours / chat rooms
• first webcast
• discussion of introductory chapter - premodern poetry
• listserv protocols - four guidelines
• rhetoric in premodern poetry
• Markham's Lincoln versus Whitman's Lincoln
• introduction to the issue of beauty
• are language conventions natural?
• process versus product
• Dickinson open to accusations of elitism?
• Dickinson and self-reference
• on interiority in Dickinson
• does two plus three equal 7?
• list of Whitmanian qualities
• notes on the Whitmanian idea of the line, with reference to William Carlos Williams
• how radical is Dickinson?
• on sanitized editions of Dickinson's poems
• Oscar Williams normalizes Ginsberg (by Lauryl Hicks)
• on Niedecker's grandfather poem (on language and politics)
• we begin modernism with imagism - H.D.'s "Sea Rose"
• imagist poems are also about themselves being made
• Stevens's "Thirteen Ways" and its possible relation to imagism
• on Pound's "The Encounter"
• on the experience of reading Stein
• Jena Osman on Stein's valentine
• Pound's "Metro" poem an example of what Stein means when she describes composition?
• Stein's remarks on composition: modernism and history
• Stein: two types of statements
• Stein a naturalist?
• modernist anti-portraiture (on Stein's "What Do I See" and Williams's "Portrait of a Lady")
• Shawn quotes a paper on Stein's repetition
• Stein on composition
• Stein on doing something & standing
• Stein's "Let Us Describe"
• the Baroness
• on the Baroness' poem
• communism "vs." modernism
• Faye on Cullen
• tally on the Frost debate
• introduction to midcentury modernism
• Louis Cabri on Wilbur's frog
• Alberto on Wilbur's "Cottage Street"
• on conformity and poetic form
• is beat language natural?
• Kerouac against selectivity (per Kirsten)
• more on Beat "choice" by Shawn
• Alberto's ballet analogy
• response to the ballet analogy
• Al weighs in on the natural language question
• Shawn on the word--->thing question
• Ferlinghetti per Chris
• aurality
• Elliott on style and newness
• some deconstructions of the natural
• on Ashbery's "Some Trees"
• first message on language poetry
• Bernadette Mayer's writing experiments
• Joan Boonin, "Writing through English 88v"
• William Butler Yeats' "The Second Coming" + 7 by Lauryl Hicks
• Frost's "Mending Wall" + 7 by Sara Rabold
• juxtaposition and the constructedness of meaning in contemporary avant-garde writing
• Perelman a realist?
• "do things that matter": political poetry, the avant garde, and the possible return of the subject
• Cage on sound
• on Jena Osman's "A Real Life Drama": the language of the forefathers (with references to Williams's Paterson)

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